Re: Put docker image in Trafodion website

[Gunnar Tapper]

I do. I'll take a look.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Birdsall 
wrote:

> Copying dev list. This is one of the things Gunnar knows.
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe Le Rouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:07 AM
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Put docker image in Trafodion website
>
>
>
> Makes sense Eason, from what I recall it’s complicated to do modifications
> on the Apache Trafodion website...
>
> Who could do it?
>
>
>
> Thx
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Zhang, Yi (Eason) [mailto:yi.zh...@esgyn.cn ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:05 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Put docker image in Trafodion website
>
>
>
> Suggest to put the link somewhere on apache trafodion website, so user
> would know that there’s a docker image for Trafodion.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eason
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe Le Rouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 14:22
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Put docker image in Trafodion website
>
>
>
> It’s on the Docker web site Seth: https://hub.docker.com/r/
> trafodion/quickstart/ , do you want to put it elsewhere as well?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:jian@esgyn.cn ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:55 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Put docker image in Trafodion website
>
>
>
> Hello there,
>
>
>
> Can we build and put Trafodion docker image somewhere in community
> website. It is the most easy way to try and get feeling about Trafodion’s
> advantages.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> 金剑 (Seth)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Trafodion Chinese Communities

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

What Trafodion communities exist in China on WeChat, QQ, etc.? How active
are these communities?

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Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: trafci connection info in a file

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi Arvind,

Alas, this doesn't work since the command argument itself gets quoted in
addition to the argument value.

Gunnar

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Arvind <narain.arv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Defining a function/alias seems to be a good way to do it, unless you want
> trafci to prompt you for the hostname:port/username/password.
>
>
>
> Could you try by including double quotes in your function definition ?
> That should help execute commands via -q or -sql or -s as described in :
>
>
>
> http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/docs/command_
> interface/index.html#trafci_option_params
>
>
>
> function arvci() { trafci.sh -h host.com:23400 -u usr -p pwd “$@”; }
>
>
>
> Alias should also work in the same way (enclose in single quotes)
>
>
>
>alias  arvci=’trafci.sh -h host.com:23400 -u usr -p
> pwd “$@” ‘
>
>
>
> Do excuse if I misunderstood the problem with function/alias definition.
>
>
>
> I’m not currently aware of how to pass the connection information for
> trafci– jdbc applications can pass the information to the driver via
> properties file. I’ll look up or someone on this list will chime in, if it
> is possible, with that information.
>
>
>
> Regard
>
> Arvind
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 11:52 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* trafci connection info in a file
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm running trafci from a Linux box outside a Trafodion cluster. I'd
> really like to be able to type: trafci -q "get schemas;" or something like
> that rather than having to put in all the connection info.
>
>
>
> The Command Interface Guide shows how to set an alias but that doesn't
> allow optional parameters. So, I went with a function: function trafci() {
> ./trafci -h host.com:23400 -u usr -p pwd $@; }, which works as long as
> the argument string isn't quoted; the shell strips off the quotes.
>
>
>
> Is there a .trafci or something that I can populate with the connection
> info?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

trafci connection info in a file

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I'm running trafci from a Linux box outside a Trafodion cluster. I'd really
like to be able to type: trafci -q "get schemas;" or something like that
rather than having to put in all the connection info.

The Command Interface Guide shows how to set an alias but that doesn't
allow optional parameters. So, I went with a function: function trafci() {
./trafci -h host.com:23400 -u usr -p pwd $@; }, which works as long as the
argument string isn't quoted; the shell strips off the quotes.

Is there a .trafci or something that I can populate with the connection
info?

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns

[Gunnar Tapper]

Thanks!

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Most likely looks like Trafodion 2.1.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandhya
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:27 PM
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns
>
>
>
> When is this planned? I'm asking since there are a couple of chapters in
> the upcoming JDBC T4 Guide that discuss LOB support.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Yes – exactly. I have made most of them actually and will hold on until
> it’s ready to get enabled by default.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandhya
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:12 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns
>
>
>
> Thanks Sandhya. I assume that the how-to is part of the upcoming changes
> to the SQL Reference Manual for BLOB/CLOB support?
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gunnar,
>
>It isn’t turned on by default in the code yet needs more
> testing/usage.  You need to set a couple of CQDs to enable. If you create a
> table without setting the CQD you will get  large varchar column instead.
>
>
>
> Take a look at the document attached  in this JIRA for some details :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1473
>
>
>
> And for simple examples on how to turn on the CQD and create , insert,and
> extract take a look at core/sql/regress/executor/TEST130 for several
> examples.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandhya
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:58 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns
>
>
>
> How do I create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns

[Gunnar Tapper]

When is this planned? I'm asking since there are a couple of chapters in
the upcoming JDBC T4 Guide that discuss LOB support.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Yes – exactly. I have made most of them actually and will hold on until
> it’s ready to get enabled by default.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandhya
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:12 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns
>
>
>
> Thanks Sandhya. I assume that the how-to is part of the upcoming changes
> to the SQL Reference Manual for BLOB/CLOB support?
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gunnar,
>
>It isn’t turned on by default in the code yet needs more
> testing/usage.  You need to set a couple of CQDs to enable. If you create a
> table without setting the CQD you will get  large varchar column instead.
>
>
>
> Take a look at the document attached  in this JIRA for some details :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1473
>
>
>
> And for simple examples on how to turn on the CQD and create , insert,and
> extract take a look at core/sql/regress/executor/TEST130 for several
> examples.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandhya
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:58 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns
>
>
>
> How do I create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns

[Gunnar Tapper]

How do I create a table with BLOB or CLOB columns?

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Instruction about how to become Trafodion contributor

[Gunnar Tapper]

I indeed did. Replying via cellphone didn't work so well. :)

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think Gunnar meant to say, "Refer" to the Get Started chapter."
>
> The videos will compliment our website and writings, not replace them.
> Some people like to read.  Some people like to watch.  We'll cover both
>
> -Carol P.
>
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> -------
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Regret to the Get Started chapter.
>> On Apr 13, 2016 9:25 PM, "Jin, Jian (Seth)" <jian@esgyn.cn> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I look at the link, but cannot find **process** how to register and
>>> be come contributor.
>>>
>>> Br,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 2016年4月13日 21:11
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Instruction about how to become Trafodion contributor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The link is provided directly by clicking on "Contribute" on the website.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jian,
>>>
>>> First of all: welcome!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Trafodion+Contributor+Guide
>>> should provide a good starting point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>
>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
>>>
>>>
>>> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
>>>
>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Jin, Jian (Seth) <jian@esgyn.cn>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not easy to find instruction How to become Trafodion contributor
>>> in official website or WiKi page.
>>>
>>> Did I miss it or we need to add this at proper place?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 金剑 (Seth)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gunnar
>>>
>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>
>>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

RE: Instruction about how to become Trafodion contributor

[Gunnar Tapper]

Regret to the Get Started chapter.
On Apr 13, 2016 9:25 PM, "Jin, Jian (Seth)" <jian@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> Yes, I look at the link, but cannot find **process** how to register and
> be come contributor.
>
> Br,
>
>
>
> Seth
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 2016年4月13日 21:11
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Instruction about how to become Trafodion contributor
>
>
>
> The link is provided directly by clicking on "Contribute" on the website.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jian,
>
> First of all: welcome!
>
>
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Trafodion+Contributor+Guide
> should provide a good starting point.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
>
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Jin, Jian (Seth) <jian@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
>
>
> It is not easy to find instruction How to become Trafodion contributor in
> official website or WiKi page.
>
> Did I miss it or we need to add this at proper place?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> 金剑 (Seth)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>

Re: Mystical SPJ error

[Gunnar Tapper]

Found it. I defined the library using .class instead of .jar. Oops.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This error is driving me batty. :)
>
> The SPJ information:
>
> [centos@trafodion trafodion-spjs]$ pwd
> /home/centos/trafodion-spjs
> [centos@trafodion trafodion-spjs]$ javap Payroll.class
> Compiled from "Payroll.java"
> public class Payroll {
>   public Payroll();
>   public static void adjustSalary(java.math.BigDecimal, double,
> java.math.BigDecimal[]) throws java.sql.SQLException;
>   public static void employeeJob(int, java.lang.Integer[]) throws
> java.sql.SQLException;
>   public static void projectTeam(int, java.sql.ResultSet[]) throws
> java.sql.SQLException;
>   public static void topSalesReps(int, java.sql.ResultSet[]) throws
> java.sql.SQLException;
> }
>
> So, I add the class to Trafodion as a library.
>
> [centos@trafodion trafodion-spjs]$ trafci
>
> Welcome to Apache Trafodion Command Interface
> Copyright (c) 2015 Apache Software Foundation
>
> Host Name/IP Address: localhost:23400
> User Name: zz
>
> Connected to Trafodion
>
> SQL>create library trafodion.persnl.payroll file
> '/home/centos/trafodion-spjs/Payroll.class';
>
> --- SQL operation complete.
>
> SQL>get libraries in schema trafodion.persnl;
>
> PAYROLL
>
> --- SQL operation complete.
>
> Next, I try to create a procedure but Trafodion doesn't seem to see the
> Payroll class in the library file.
>
> SQL>CREATE PROCEDURE trafodion.persnl.adjustsalary( IN empnum NUMERIC(4)
>   , IN percent FLOAT
>   , OUT newsalary NUMERIC(8,2)
>   )
>EXTERNAL NAME 'Payroll.adjustSalary'
>LIBRARY trafodion.persnl.payroll
> +>+>+>+>+>   LANGUAGE JAVA
>PARAMETER STYLE JAVA
>MODIFIES SQL DATA
>;
> +>+>+>+>
> *** ERROR[11205] Java class 'Payroll' was not found in external path
> '/home/centos/trafodion-spjs/Payroll.class'. [2016-04-05 00:16:46]
> *** ERROR[1231] User-defined routine TRAFODION.PERSNL.ADJUSTSALARY could
> not be created. [2016-04-05 00:16:46]
>
> SQL>
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: HBase 0.98 vs HBase 1.1 in Trafodion Releases

[Gunnar Tapper]

An API that wraps the new API with the old interface thereby ensuring that
clients don't have to change just because the underlying software changed.
On Mar 30, 2016 9:09 AM, "Stack" <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's 1.x AFAIK.
>>
>> HBase doesn't provide compatibility APIs, eh? Something to consider in
>> the future maybe.
>>
>>
> What is a compatibility API?
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>> Gunnar
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Carol Pearson <
>>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Trafodion Users,
>>>>
>>>> As Trafodion Release 2.0 comes together, it's a challenge to make
>>>> Trafodion work with both HBase 0.98 and HBase 1.1 in the same code base.
>>>>
>>>> From discussions among Trafodion developers over on the dev list, the
>>>> resolution is that the upcoming 2.0 release will work with HBase 1.1 and
>>>> forward ONLY.  That is, there is no current way to use HBase 0.98 in the
>>>> upcoming Trafodion 2.0 release, coming very soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good. Could you get away with T* 2.0 works w/ HBase 1.x rather
>>> than 1.1?  The API is fixed in hbase 1.x. Coprocessors though could change
>>> across minor versions 1.1 => 1.2 which might mess you up.
>>>
>>> St.Ack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you want to use Trafodion with HBase 0.98, that code path is based
>>>> on the Trafodion 1.3 release which is currently available. Trafodion
>>>> Release 1.3 does NOT work with HBase 1.1.
>>>>
>>>> -Carol P.
>>>> ---
>>>> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>>>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gunnar
>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>
>
>

Trafodion documentation library is growing

[Gunnar Tapper]

Check it out: http://trafodion.apache.org/documentation.html

The Client Install guide is now up-to-date. It's easier to find the how-to
documentation for UDFs, code examples, the Contributor Guide, etc.

In pipeline: SPJ Guide, ODBC APIs, and JDBC APIs.

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

DCS default port

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Our documentation seems to disagree on which port is the default DCS port.
23400 or 37800?

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: DCS default port

[Gunnar Tapper]

OK. I'll update the manuals accodingly.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:04 AM, Anuradha Hegde <anuradha.he...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> No.. It should be 23400.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 10:42 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: DCS default port
>
>
>
> Is 37800 valid in 1.3.0?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> 23400 is the default port. (37800 is an old value).
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:35 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* DCS default port
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Our documentation seems to disagree on which port is the default DCS port.
> 23400 or 37800?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: DCS default port

[Gunnar Tapper]

Is 37800 valid in 1.3.0?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> 23400 is the default port. (37800 is an old value).
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:35 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* DCS default port
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Our documentation seems to disagree on which port is the default DCS port.
> 23400 or 37800?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Trafodion Client Binaries Download

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I'm adding [Binary is included in this release] to the manual.

I need a bit of guidance on this:

I noticed that the make package debug build creates a winodbc directory but
that does not contain an installer?

I also tried to build a release package but the resulting tar files don't
contain the installer either?

So, I guess I'm wondering how an interested party would build/install the
Windows ODBC driver? From what I understand of licensing, it's OK to do so
since you accept whatever licenses there are; different from binary
distribution.

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1893
>
>
>
> There is license issue with binary distribution of win-odbc under Apache.
> Until that gets fixed, we are not bundling win-odbc binary.  Source release
> only.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:03 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Trafodion Client Binaries Download
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to download and install the Trafodion clients from
> http://traf-builds.esgyn.com/downloads/trafodion/publish/release/1.3.0/apache-trafodion-clients-1.3.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz
>
>
>
> The contents of this file confuses me since it doesn't match what I
> expected; that is, the apache-trafodion-clients-1.3.0-incubating-bin.tar
> file contains the following in the Clients directory:
>
>
>
>- JDBCT4.zip
>- odb64_linux.tar.gz
>- TRAF_ODBC_Linux_Driver_64.tar.gz
>- trafci.zip
>
> Given the Client Installation Guide, I expected to see a
> TFODBC64-.msi file
>
>
>
> Is this a mistake or are we not shipping TFODBC64-.msi file? If
> so, should the references to installation of Windows ODBC be removed?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Trafodion Client Binaries Download

[Gunnar Tapper]

Are there any instructions for how to build it on Windows?

I don't think we need it in the release package if we're instructing users
on how to build it on Windows.

Gunnar

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> It has to be built on Windows, and then put in the core/conn/clients
> directory to be picked up in the build packaging.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:49 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Trafodion Client Binaries Download
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm adding [Binary is included in this release] to the manual.
>
>
>
> I need a bit of guidance on this:
>
>
>
> I noticed that the make package debug build creates a winodbc directory
> but that does not contain an installer?
>
>
>
> I also tried to build a release package but the resulting tar files don't
> contain the installer either?
>
>
>
> So, I guess I'm wondering how an interested party would build/install the
> Windows ODBC driver? From what I understand of licensing, it's OK to do so
> since you accept whatever licenses there are; different from binary
> distribution.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1893
>
>
>
> There is license issue with binary distribution of win-odbc under Apache.
> Until that gets fixed, we are not bundling win-odbc binary.  Source release
> only.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:03 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Trafodion Client Binaries Download
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to download and install the Trafodion clients from
> http://traf-builds.esgyn.com/downloads/trafodion/publish/release/1.3.0/apache-trafodion-clients-1.3.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz
>
>
>
> The contents of this file confuses me since it doesn't match what I
> expected; that is, the apache-trafodion-clients-1.3.0-incubating-bin.tar
> file contains the following in the Clients directory:
>
>
>
>- JDBCT4.zip
>- odb64_linux.tar.gz
>- TRAF_ODBC_Linux_Driver_64.tar.gz
>- trafci.zip
>
> Given the Client Installation Guide, I expected to see a
> TFODBC64-.msi file
>
>
>
> Is this a mistake or are we not shipping TFODBC64-.msi file? If
> so, should the references to installation of Windows ODBC be removed?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart

[Gunnar Tapper]

OK. Then, it'll not be covered in the upcoming admin guide.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Sean Broeder <sean.broe...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> I think the concept of a warm start is a carryover from early SeaQuest
> days.  A warm start was proposed to maintain some monitor and TM states,
> but it never was fully implemented.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> *From:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:03 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* 答复: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> The purpose I guess is to bypass time-consuming database recovery if it is
> a warm start. Say, if you have a clean shutdown of Trafodion, you can warm
> restart it. If one use ‘ckillall’, or simply loss power, one needs a cold
> start. But I think this is just the concept. May not support yet? We
> studied the two gomon scripts, seems identical except some minor difference.
>
>
>
> And Narendra is correct, I misunderstand the startup code. It is possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com
> <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>]
> *发送时间:* 2016年3月16日 0:36
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> BTW, in what cases should gomon.warm or the sqstart warm argument be used?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Narendra Goyal <narendra.go...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes, one can follow the commands in ‘gomon.cold’ (that sqstart uses (what
> Selva mentioned)) to startup without sqstart.
>
>
>
> As such, before ‘sqstart’ executes the commands in ‘gomon.cold’, it does
> some other checks (like checks for orphan processes), and cleans up IPC
> constructs (semaphores, queues, shared memory) via sqipcrm.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Narendra
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:10 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> The use case is how Apache Ambari works: it assume node-by-node management
> of services. This is how you achieve rolling upgrades, stopping all
> services on a node, etc.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it's possible to first start the monitor (using the startup
> command) and then start/stop other components per node. Kind of a hybrid
> model.
>
>
>
> DCS/REST should already support this use case since it's based on the
> HBase model where the scripts start daemons on each configured node.
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> From my understanding, it is invalid to start trafodion on node by node
> mode. Monitor simulate a single image of operating system from a bunch of
> nodes. One process can be configured to be a pair: active and standby. So
> when start a trafodion process, it will start two processes on two nodes.
> It is hard to start a single node.
>
> Is there any use case to do so?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月15日 22:27
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* RE: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> Yes.  The sqgen command takes in the configuration file for the trafodion
> cluster and generates gomon.cold, gomon.warm and other relevant scripts.
> These generated scripts are copied to all nodes in the cluster. These
> scripts are nothing but the commands to sqshell. sqstart uses either
> gomon.cold or gomon.warm to start the Trafodion instance.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 10:03 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> DCS and REST follow the HBase model so that should be a simple matter of
> invoking the *-daemon.sh scripts.
>
>
>
> I think the rest is a matter of using sqshell:
>
>
>
> [centos@trafodion incubator-trafodion]$ sqshell
>
> Processing cluster.conf on local host trafodion.novalocal
>
> [SHELL] Shell/shell Version 1.0.1 Apache_Trafodion Release 2.0.0 (Build
> debug [centos], date 11Mar16)
>
> [SHELL] %help
>
> [SHELL] usage: shell {[-a|-i] []} | {-c }
>
> [SHELL] - commands:
>
> [SHELL] -- Command line environment variable replacement: ${}
>
> [SHELL] -- ! comment statement

Re: 答复: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart

[Gunnar Tapper]

>From what I understand, this will not work. What you need to do is to do
what gomon.cold does; that is, interact with sqshell telling it what you
want done.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> Hi there All-
>
> So this is what is suggested to be able to start Trafodion on each node
> individually:
>
> Run sqgen on each node.
>
> Create a new script that would be ran on each node (probably just a
> wrapper) that calls gomon.cold.
>
> How will this work for processes that are one per cluster, like the
> monitor?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
>> The purpose I guess is to bypass time-consuming database recovery if it
>> is a warm start. Say, if you have a clean shutdown of Trafodion, you can
>> warm restart it. If one use ‘ckillall’, or simply loss power, one needs a
>> cold start. But I think this is just the concept. May not support yet? We
>> studied the two gomon scripts, seems identical except some minor difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> And Narendra is correct, I misunderstand the startup code. It is possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ming
>>
>>
>>
>> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>> *发送时间:* 2016年3月16日 0:36
>> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *主题:* Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, in what cases should gomon.warm or the sqstart warm argument be used?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Narendra Goyal <
>> narendra.go...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, one can follow the commands in ‘gomon.cold’ (that sqstart uses (what
>> Selva mentioned)) to startup without sqstart.
>>
>>
>>
>> As such, before ‘sqstart’ executes the commands in ‘gomon.cold’, it does
>> some other checks (like checks for orphan processes), and cleans up IPC
>> constructs (semaphores, queues, shared memory) via sqipcrm.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Narendra
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:10 AM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>>
>>
>>
>> The use case is how Apache Ambari works: it assume node-by-node
>> management of services. This is how you achieve rolling upgrades, stopping
>> all services on a node, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if it's possible to first start the monitor (using the startup
>> command) and then start/stop other components per node. Kind of a hybrid
>> model.
>>
>>
>>
>> DCS/REST should already support this use case since it's based on the
>> HBase model where the scripts start daemons on each configured node.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From my understanding, it is invalid to start trafodion on node by node
>> mode. Monitor simulate a single image of operating system from a bunch of
>> nodes. One process can be configured to be a pair: active and standby. So
>> when start a trafodion process, it will start two processes on two nodes.
>> It is hard to start a single node.
>>
>> Is there any use case to do so?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ming
>>
>>
>>
>> *发件人**:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
>> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月15日 22:27
>> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *主**题**:* RE: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes.  The sqgen command takes in the configuration file for the trafodion
>> cluster and generates gomon.cold, gomon.warm and other relevant scripts.
>> These generated scripts are copied to all nodes in the cluster. These
>> scripts are nothing but the commands to sqshell. sqstart uses either
>> gomon.cold or gomon.warm to start the Trafodion instance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Selva
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 10:03 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>>
>>
>>
>> DCS and REST follow the HBase model so that should be a simple matte

Re: 答复: where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Just to complicate this a bit... :)

The documentation for the Trafodion client software is:
http://trafodion.apache.org/docs/client_install/index.html

It might be necessary to add a column that describes the content of each
document if people can't correlate "client" with "ODBC" or "JDBC" on the
download page.

Thanks,

Gunnar


On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> Done. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1894
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:52 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?
>
>
>
> I suggest a Jira and then anyone can make the change. :)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I think Dave and Ming are onto something. If I'm looking for ODBC or JDBC
> drivers, I'm most likely searching for "ODBC" or "JDBC" not "Clients". 6
>
>
>
>  If we could list these on the page somehow, that would be very helpful -
> not just for searching, but also once I land on that page, I know what it
> is I'm supposed to click to download the drivers.
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> Maybe it would be useful to list on the download page what’s in the
> Clients package?
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:08 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?
>
>
>
> It's because the package contains more than JDBC and ODBC.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, my bad, it is in the
> http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/download.html , it is called
> ‘Trafodion Clients’ I overlook it, I was looking for ODBC/JDBC .. .
>
>
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月15日 9:45
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I am trying to download and install odbc/jdbc driver for Trafodion, but I
> spent over 15 mins on the http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/ still
> not find the correct link.
>
> Could someone kindly help me?
>
>
>
> I suggest this should be put in a very easy to find link in the main page.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart

[Gunnar Tapper]

BTW, in what cases should gomon.warm or the sqstart warm argument be used?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Narendra Goyal <narendra.go...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> Yes, one can follow the commands in ‘gomon.cold’ (that sqstart uses (what
> Selva mentioned)) to startup without sqstart.
>
>
>
> As such, before ‘sqstart’ executes the commands in ‘gomon.cold’, it does
> some other checks (like checks for orphan processes), and cleans up IPC
> constructs (semaphores, queues, shared memory) via sqipcrm.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Narendra
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:10 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> The use case is how Apache Ambari works: it assume node-by-node management
> of services. This is how you achieve rolling upgrades, stopping all
> services on a node, etc.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it's possible to first start the monitor (using the startup
> command) and then start/stop other components per node. Kind of a hybrid
> model.
>
>
>
> DCS/REST should already support this use case since it's based on the
> HBase model where the scripts start daemons on each configured node.
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> From my understanding, it is invalid to start trafodion on node by node
> mode. Monitor simulate a single image of operating system from a bunch of
> nodes. One process can be configured to be a pair: active and standby. So
> when start a trafodion process, it will start two processes on two nodes.
> It is hard to start a single node.
>
> Is there any use case to do so?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月15日 22:27
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* RE: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> Yes.  The sqgen command takes in the configuration file for the trafodion
> cluster and generates gomon.cold, gomon.warm and other relevant scripts.
> These generated scripts are copied to all nodes in the cluster. These
> scripts are nothing but the commands to sqshell. sqstart uses either
> gomon.cold or gomon.warm to start the Trafodion instance.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 10:03 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> DCS and REST follow the HBase model so that should be a simple matter of
> invoking the *-daemon.sh scripts.
>
>
>
> I think the rest is a matter of using sqshell:
>
>
>
> [centos@trafodion incubator-trafodion]$ sqshell
>
> Processing cluster.conf on local host trafodion.novalocal
>
> [SHELL] Shell/shell Version 1.0.1 Apache_Trafodion Release 2.0.0 (Build
> debug [centos], date 11Mar16)
>
> [SHELL] %help
>
> [SHELL] usage: shell {[-a|-i] []} | {-c }
>
> [SHELL] - commands:
>
> [SHELL] -- Command line environment variable replacement: ${}
>
> [SHELL] -- ! comment statement
>
> [SHELL] -- cd 
>
> [SHELL] -- delay 
>
> [SHELL] -- down  [, ]
>
> [SHELL] -- dump [{path }]  | <nid,pid>
>
> [SHELL] -- echo []
>
> [SHELL] -- event [{ASE|TSE|DTM|AMP|BO|VR|CS}]  [<nid,pid> [
> event-data] ]
>
> [SHELL] -- exec [{[debug][nowait][pri ][name ]
>
> [SHELL]   [nid ][type
> {AMP|ASE|BO|CS|DTM|PSD|SMS|SPX|SSMP|TSE|VR}]
>
> [SHELL] --[in |#default][out |#default]}] path
> [[]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- exit [!]
>
> [SHELL] -- help
>
> [SHELL] -- kill [{abort}]  | <nid,pid>
>
> [SHELL] -- ldpath [[,]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- ls [{[detail]}] []
>
> [SHELL] -- measure | measure_cpu
>
> [SHELL] -- monstats
>
> [SHELL] -- node [info []]
>
> [SHELL] -- path [[,]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- ps [{ASE|TSE|DTM|AMP|BO|VR|CS}] [|<nid,pid>]
>
> [SHELL] -- pwd
>
> [SHELL] -- quit
>
> [SHELL] -- scanbufs
>
> [SHELL] -- set [{[nid ]|[process ]}] key=
>
> [SHELL] -- show [{[nid ]|[process ]}] [key]
>
> [SHELL] -- shutdown [[immediate]|[abrupt]|[!]]
>
> [SHELL] -- startup [trace] []
>
> [SHELL] -- suspend []
>
> [SHELL] -- time 
>
> [SHELL] -- trace 
>
> [SHELL] -- up 
>
> [SHELL] -- wait [ | <nid,pid>]
>
> [SHELL] -- warmstart [trace] []
>
> [SHELL] -- zone [nid |zid ]
>
> [
>
>
>
> Obviously, you can up/down nodes but I don't know how tha

Re: 答复: where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?

[Gunnar Tapper]

I suggest a Jira and then anyone can make the change. :)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think Dave and Ming are onto something. If I'm looking for ODBC or JDBC
> drivers, I'm most likely searching for "ODBC" or "JDBC" not "Clients". 6
>
>  If we could list these on the page somehow, that would be very helpful -
> not just for searching, but also once I land on that page, I know what it
> is I'm supposed to click to download the drivers.
>
> -Carol P.
>
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> ---
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe it would be useful to list on the download page what’s in the
>> Clients package?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:08 PM
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: 答复: where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?
>>
>>
>>
>> It's because the package contains more than JDBC and ODBC.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, my bad, it is in the
>> http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/download.html , it is called
>> ‘Trafodion Clients’ I overlook it, I was looking for ODBC/JDBC .. .
>>
>>
>>
>> Ming
>>
>>
>>
>> *发件人**:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
>> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月15日 9:45
>> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *主**题**:* where to download Trafodion odbc/jdbc install package?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying to download and install odbc/jdbc driver for Trafodion, but I
>> spent over 15 mins on the http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/ still
>> not find the correct link.
>>
>> Could someone kindly help me?
>>
>>
>>
>> I suggest this should be put in a very easy to find link in the main page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ming
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart

[Gunnar Tapper]

The use case is how Apache Ambari works: it assume node-by-node management
of services. This is how you achieve rolling upgrades, stopping all
services on a node, etc.

I wonder if it's possible to first start the monitor (using the startup
command) and then start/stop other components per node. Kind of a hybrid
model.

DCS/REST should already support this use case since it's based on the HBase
model where the scripts start daemons on each configured node.

Gunnar

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> From my understanding, it is invalid to start trafodion on node by node
> mode. Monitor simulate a single image of operating system from a bunch of
> nodes. One process can be configured to be a pair: active and standby. So
> when start a trafodion process, it will start two processes on two nodes.
> It is hard to start a single node.
>
> Is there any use case to do so?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年3月15日 22:27
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* RE: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> Yes.  The sqgen command takes in the configuration file for the trafodion
> cluster and generates gomon.cold, gomon.warm and other relevant scripts.
> These generated scripts are copied to all nodes in the cluster. These
> scripts are nothing but the commands to sqshell. sqstart uses either
> gomon.cold or gomon.warm to start the Trafodion instance.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 10:03 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Anyway to start Trafodion without sqstart
>
>
>
> DCS and REST follow the HBase model so that should be a simple matter of
> invoking the *-daemon.sh scripts.
>
>
>
> I think the rest is a matter of using sqshell:
>
>
>
> [centos@trafodion incubator-trafodion]$ sqshell
>
> Processing cluster.conf on local host trafodion.novalocal
>
> [SHELL] Shell/shell Version 1.0.1 Apache_Trafodion Release 2.0.0 (Build
> debug [centos], date 11Mar16)
>
> [SHELL] %help
>
> [SHELL] usage: shell {[-a|-i] []} | {-c }
>
> [SHELL] - commands:
>
> [SHELL] -- Command line environment variable replacement: ${}
>
> [SHELL] -- ! comment statement
>
> [SHELL] -- cd 
>
> [SHELL] -- delay 
>
> [SHELL] -- down  [, ]
>
> [SHELL] -- dump [{path }]  | <nid,pid>
>
> [SHELL] -- echo []
>
> [SHELL] -- event [{ASE|TSE|DTM|AMP|BO|VR|CS}]  [<nid,pid> [
> event-data] ]
>
> [SHELL] -- exec [{[debug][nowait][pri ][name ]
>
> [SHELL]   [nid ][type
> {AMP|ASE|BO|CS|DTM|PSD|SMS|SPX|SSMP|TSE|VR}]
>
> [SHELL] --[in |#default][out |#default]}] path
> [[]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- exit [!]
>
> [SHELL] -- help
>
> [SHELL] -- kill [{abort}]  | <nid,pid>
>
> [SHELL] -- ldpath [[,]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- ls [{[detail]}] []
>
> [SHELL] -- measure | measure_cpu
>
> [SHELL] -- monstats
>
> [SHELL] -- node [info []]
>
> [SHELL] -- path [[,]...]
>
> [SHELL] -- ps [{ASE|TSE|DTM|AMP|BO|VR|CS}] [|<nid,pid>]
>
> [SHELL] -- pwd
>
> [SHELL] -- quit
>
> [SHELL] -- scanbufs
>
> [SHELL] -- set [{[nid ]|[process ]}] key=
>
> [SHELL] -- show [{[nid ]|[process ]}] [key]
>
> [SHELL] -- shutdown [[immediate]|[abrupt]|[!]]
>
> [SHELL] -- startup [trace] []
>
> [SHELL] -- suspend []
>
> [SHELL] -- time 
>
> [SHELL] -- trace 
>
> [SHELL] -- up 
>
> [SHELL] -- wait [ | <nid,pid>]
>
> [SHELL] -- warmstart [trace] []
>
> [SHELL] -- zone [nid |zid ]
>
> [
>
>
>
> Obviously, you can up/down nodes but I don't know how that works in
> relationship to the startup command.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi there-
>
>
>
> Is there a way to start up Trafodion not by using sqstart...? I would like
> to be able to start up/stop each node individually.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Amanda Moran
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Request for information about the installer's new management nodes prompt.

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Amanda can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that this refers to
configurations where the distribution manager (Ambari or Cloudera) runs on
separate nodes in the cluster. That is, the nodes are part of the cluster
but is not used as edge nodes or storage nodes and, therefore, should not
have Trafodion services installed on them.

Gunnar

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:35 PM, D. Markt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   Some time back I noticed a new prompt as I was installing a Trafodion
> build:
>
> Do you have a set of management nodes (Y/N), default is N:
>
>   I was wondering how to appropriately answer this prompt to use the new
> feature as it was intended.  For example, one cluster is using the HA
> configuration and has only the HBase Master and HDFS Name Node processes
> running on two nodes.  Several questions come to mind:
>
>   1) Is the expectation those nodes will be entered at this prompt?
>
>   2) Will entering a node on this line preclude certain processes from
> running on that node, for example:
>a) Are mxosrvrs still started on those nodes?
>b) Are other Trafodion processes started on those nodes?
>
>   3) Are there other considerations as to which nodes should or should not
> be listed as management nodes?
>
>   Any insights will be helpful and appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: 答复: RMS questions

[Gunnar Tapper]

There is a tremendous amount of documentation in the SQL Reference Guide.
For example, it contains the basic set of CQDs is documented in this
manual. Same for the other guides. For example, take a look at the odb User
Guide. It's so function rich that I am surprised that odb can't do your
taxes. :)

G.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> Very nice document Gunnar, I didn’t realize this. Read it through, it is
> very informational and helpful.
>
> Look very good for me, maybe Selva can review it as Gunnar suggested.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年3月3日 6:42
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: RMS questions
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Also, RMS is documented in the Trafodion SQL Reference Manual:
> http://trafodion.apache.org/docs/sql_reference/index.html#displaying_sql_runtime_statistics
>
>
>
> Selva: Please let me know if this documentation needs to be updated. If
> so, send me the info and I'll incorporate it into this guide.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> This is very clear and good answer, solve all my confusion! I am now
> understanding how it works. Also understand the relationship among ODBC
> collected stats , repository and RMS. Thanks a lot Selva!
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年3月3日 3:35
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* RE: RMS questions
>
>
>
> Hi Ming,
>
>
>
> We are sorry for the delayed response.
>
>
>
> Please see my responses embedded.
>
>
>
> *From:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:05 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RMS questions
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I am trying to gather query’s run-time statistics using RMS command ‘get
> statistics’. It works fine, but I have some questions below:
>
>
>
> As I understand, RMS will save stats for a given query in shared memory,
> so it cannot save all the history. It only save CURRENT running queries’
> stats. Is this true?*[Selva] *  RMS uses the shared segment to provide
> near real time statistics of the query. The metrics are captured at the
> relevant components in near real time and updated in the shared segment
> directly while the query is being executed. RMS doesn’t poll for the
> metrics collection, it is the infrastructure to provide real time
> statistics.
>
> For a long-running query, I can start another session using ‘get
> statistics for qid xxx ‘ to periodically get the stats. For short-running
> query (finish in ms), it seems hard for me to start another session find
> out qid and run the ‘get statistics’. I think there is a small time window
> that one can still get stats for a query after it finished. *[Selva] * For
> short running queries, you can get the statistics after the query is
> completed before the next query is run in the same session using the
> command “get statistics for qid  current”.  If the query is issued
> from a non-interactive application, then you might be able to get some kind
> of summary info from Trafodion repository if it is enabled.
>
> What is that time window, 30 seconds?*[Selva]  *Generally, the statistics
> is retained till the statement is deallocated. The server deallocates the
> statement only when user initiates SQLDrop or Statement.close or the
> connection is closed or the statement object on the client side is somehow
> garbage collected and triggers resource deallocation on the server side.
> RMS extends the statistics life time a bit more till a next statement is
> prepared or executed in the same session after the statement is deallocated
>  In case of non-interactive application, this time period could be very
> short.
>
>
>
>
>
> If I have a busy system with TPS like 3000 queries/s, can RMS save all of
> them by 30 seconds? That seems huge, and memory is limited. If it works
> like a ring buffer or cache (aging out oldest entries), what is the
> strategy RMS keep stats or aging who out? *[Selva] *As I said earlier,
> RMS is an infrastructure that aids in providing the real time statistics
> and it is not statistics gathering tool. In Trafodion, Type 4 JDBC
> applications and ODBC applications use the common infrastructure DCS to
> execute the queries. DCS is capable providing the summary info or the
> detailed query statistics based on the configuration settings in DCS.
>
> What will happen if all active q

Re: 答复: RMS questions

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Also, RMS is documented in the Trafodion SQL Reference Manual:
http://trafodion.apache.org/docs/sql_reference/index.html#displaying_sql_runtime_statistics

Selva: Please let me know if this documentation needs to be updated. If so,
send me the info and I'll incorporate it into this guide.

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

> This is very clear and good answer, solve all my confusion! I am now
> understanding how it works. Also understand the relationship among ODBC
> collected stats , repository and RMS. Thanks a lot Selva!
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Selva Govindarajan [mailto:selva.govindara...@esgyn.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年3月3日 3:35
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* RE: RMS questions
>
>
>
> Hi Ming,
>
>
>
> We are sorry for the delayed response.
>
>
>
> Please see my responses embedded.
>
>
>
> *From:* Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:ming@esgyn.cn]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:05 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RMS questions
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
>
>
> I am trying to gather query’s run-time statistics using RMS command ‘get
> statistics’. It works fine, but I have some questions below:
>
>
>
> As I understand, RMS will save stats for a given query in shared memory,
> so it cannot save all the history. It only save CURRENT running queries’
> stats. Is this true?*[Selva] *  RMS uses the shared segment to provide
> near real time statistics of the query. The metrics are captured at the
> relevant components in near real time and updated in the shared segment
> directly while the query is being executed. RMS doesn’t poll for the
> metrics collection, it is the infrastructure to provide real time
> statistics.
>
> For a long-running query, I can start another session using ‘get
> statistics for qid xxx ‘ to periodically get the stats. For short-running
> query (finish in ms), it seems hard for me to start another session find
> out qid and run the ‘get statistics’. I think there is a small time window
> that one can still get stats for a query after it finished. *[Selva] * For
> short running queries, you can get the statistics after the query is
> completed before the next query is run in the same session using the
> command “get statistics for qid  current”.  If the query is issued
> from a non-interactive application, then you might be able to get some kind
> of summary info from Trafodion repository if it is enabled.
>
> What is that time window, 30 seconds?*[Selva]  *Generally, the statistics
> is retained till the statement is deallocated. The server deallocates the
> statement only when user initiates SQLDrop or Statement.close or the
> connection is closed or the statement object on the client side is somehow
> garbage collected and triggers resource deallocation on the server side.
> RMS extends the statistics life time a bit more till a next statement is
> prepared or executed in the same session after the statement is deallocated
>  In case of non-interactive application, this time period could be very
> short.
>
>
>
>
>
> If I have a busy system with TPS like 3000 queries/s, can RMS save all of
> them by 30 seconds? That seems huge, and memory is limited. If it works
> like a ring buffer or cache (aging out oldest entries), what is the
> strategy RMS keep stats or aging who out? *[Selva] *As I said earlier,
> RMS is an infrastructure that aids in providing the real time statistics
> and it is not statistics gathering tool. In Trafodion, Type 4 JDBC
> applications and ODBC applications use the common infrastructure DCS to
> execute the queries. DCS is capable providing the summary info or the
> detailed query statistics based on the configuration settings in DCS.
>
> What will happen if all active queries will run out of RMS memory? I know
> we can enlarge the size of that memory, but not know exact how, any
> instructions?
>
> With the instruction, how can one calculate the required memory size if
> s/he know how many queries s/he want to save.
>
> *[Selva] *Default size of RMS shared segment is 64 MB. We have been able
> to manage within this space for hundreds of concurrent queries because RMS
> kicks in garbage collection every 10 minutes to gc any orphaned statistics
> info. Statistics can become orphaned if the server component went away
> abruptly or the server component itself failed to deallocate resources. Of
> course a badly written application that doesn’t deallocate statements can
> make RMS shared segment to become full.  RMS relies on the trusted DCS
> components /type 2 JDBC driver to put some capacity limit on the connection
> to avoid this. You can increase the RMS shared segment by adding
> MX_RTS_STATS_SEG_SIZE=  in $MY_SQROOT/etc/ms.env in all nodes and
> restarting the Trafodion instance. You can issue “get statistics for rms
> all” to confirm the size of  RMS shared segment and to get heath info of
> RMS itself.
>
> Maybe we can only save stats for ‘slow queries’?
>
>
>
> 

Admin Guide

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I'm working on a Trafodion Administrator Guide.

Beyond the install and *stop/*check/*start scripts, what commands/scripts
are key to cover?

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Trafodion Logo is LIVE!

[Gunnar Tapper]

Thanks. We'll soon do another refresh to deal with some color issues as
soon as receive answers from the Reflow community on how to customize the
toolbar color; we want it to match the color of the dragon.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Atanu Mishra <atanumis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks very good!
>
> The installation procedure, especially, now looks very streamlined and
> should make it easier for users to download and play with the product.
>
> Thanks Gunnar!
> Atanu
>
> 
> Atanu Mishra
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Looks good!
>>
>> I think we made a good choice, the logo is cute!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please checkout the web site and the documentation PDF files.
>>>
>>> Also, we've updated the Download page with an easy-to-use installation
>>> procedure and created a Quick Start page to make it easy to try out
>>> Trafodion.
>>>
>>> Please take a look at your earliest convenience.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gunnar
>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Amanda Moran
>>
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Trafodion Logo is LIVE!

[Gunnar Tapper]

Please checkout the web site and the documentation PDF files.

Also, we've updated the Download page with an easy-to-use installation
procedure and created a Quick Start page to make it easy to try out
Trafodion.

Please take a look at your earliest convenience.

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Please send me the final version of the logo privately and I'll update the
website and manuals accordingly.

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Roberta Marton 
wrote:

> It has been more than 72 hours and we have received many replies.
>
> Logo #13 has been approved.
>
>
>
> Voting results:
>
>
>
> +1 votes for 13: 27
>
> +1 votes for 4g: 2
>
> +0 votes: 0
>
> -1 votes: 0
>
>
>
> If my calculations are correct:
>
>
>
> 13 votes include:
>
>
>
> Roberta,  Gunnar, Hans, Sandhya, Trina, Qifan, Ming, Clr, Seth, Henry,
> Wei-shung, Rachael, Carol, Rohit, Venkat,
>
> Anu, Arvind, Dennis, Jason, Dave, Amanda, Selva, Ken, Narendra, Atanu,
> Prashanth, Sean
>
>
>
> 4g votes include:
>
>
>
> Elaine, Alex
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking time to comment on all our previous proposals and for
> voting on these last two entries.
>
> Thanks also to everyone who submitted entries and revised them from
> suggestions by our users.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Roberta
>
>
>
> *From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
> *To:* 'user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org' <
> user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

+1 for 13.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Roberta Marton 
wrote:

> +1 for 13
>
>
>
>Roberta
>
>
>
> *From:* Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.mar...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:02 PM
> *To:* 'user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org' <
> user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Trafodion Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> There has been quite a lot of discussion on our user list regarding the
> proposed Apache Trafodion logos.
>
> It has now come time for a formal vote on the two most popular logos
> fondly known as  4g and 13.
>
> Both have been attached for your reference
>
>
>
> Please respond as follows:
>
>
>
> [ ] +1-4g approve option 4g
>
> [ ] +1-13 approve option 13
>
> [ ] +0 no opinion
>
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Roberta Marton
>
>
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

+1

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
> “Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
> the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
> Apache logo.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> -------
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and 

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi Ming,

The dragon is there for the Welsh connection, which is why there was some
consensus while you folks where out on holidays.

If you want to suggest a whale, then I think you better provide the artwork
for consideration or it'll not happen. Hopefully, the dragon is OK enough
for us not to revisit the image but if you feel strong about it, then
that's the way to go.

Gunnar

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  One font or two fonts?
>
> -  Apache or not…
>
>
>
> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran 

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Ken: Can you make a variant of 13 with the same font as we use on the web
site; that is, Telex?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:33 AM, Selva Govindarajan <
selva.govindara...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> +1 for 8 and 13.  Consider reducing the space between the fonts if
> possible in 8.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Ce

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I tried logo option #4 on the website. Screenshot located at:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTZ0FFM2I0WnpwWlE

As you can see, the dragon itself works well due to the fact that the bulk
of the body is of a darker blue.

Alas, the font family doesn't work well with Telex (
https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Telex), which is what the web site
uses via the bootswatch theme. Overall, the font in the logo would be too
hard to read if applied to the overall website.

The light-blue color on the word "Apache" doesn't work either; it's better
to use the dark color from the dragon's body. The
"Transactional-SQL-on-Hadoop" slogan is lost due to the black font color of
"Trafodion", which is why I suggest a singular color for all of "Apache
Trafodion" — it's easy to add slogans underneath the logo with text that
way.

To me, this experiment validates that the logo itself is fine but there's a
little more work on the text associated with the logo to finish the job. I
am not suggesting to use the font in my earlier mockup but would like to
try Telex together with the darker text to see how that fits. It's too late
for me to try that experiment at this time so maybe tomorrow.

My two cents,

Gunnar

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.
>
> A simple change:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Option 4!!
>>
>> Trina
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
>> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
>> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>>
>> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
>> all
>>
>> Thanks Ken!
>>
>> -Carol P.
>>
>> -----------
>> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>> ---
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weishiun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 option 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>&

Re: Trafodion Runtime Security

[Gunnar Tapper]

I'll bite. Do the traditional Posix bits work under Trafodion?

Gunnar

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Should we also briefly mention if the traditional Posix permission bits
> does/does not work under trafodion?
>
> thanks --Qifan
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Hans Zeller <hans.zel...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gunnar, sounds good to me. Two somewhat related comments: One is that
>> if Trafodion uses a floating IP address in a cloud deployment, like Amazon
>> AWS, the trafodion id will need limited sudo capabilities to move the
>> elastic IP address from one node to another.
>>
>> The other is what we should not do: The trafodion id should not be given
>> any other sudo privileges. Also, the trafodion id should be locked (sudo
>> passwd -l trafodion). Users who need to be running as the trafodion id
>> should do that using the sudo command, e.g. sudo -u trafodion -i.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to document introductory-level security requirements for
>>> Trafodion, both runtime and during provisining
>>> (installation/upgrade/resizing/removal).
>>>
>>> This is what I have for runtime:
>>>
>>> The `trafodion:trafodion` user ID is created as part of the installation
>>> process. Trafodion runs under this ID, which must be
>>> registered as a user in the Hadoop Distributed File System (HDFS) to
>>> store and access objects in HDFS, HBase, and Hive.
>>> In addition, the `trafodion` user ID required passwordless access among
>>> the nodes where Trafodion is installed to run cross-node Trafodion
>>> functions such as scripts.
>>>
>>> Trafodion requires that either HDFS ACLs or Kerberos is enabled.
>>>
>>> Trafodion users are managed by the Trafodion SQL security features
>>> (grant, revoke, etc.), which can be integrated with LDAP if so desired.
>>> These users are referred to as *database users* and do not have direct
>>> access to the operating system.
>>>
>>>
>>> What did I miss? What did I get wrong?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gunnar
>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards, --Qifan
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

I suggest that we limit the number of colors used.

A simple change:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Option 4!!
>
> Trina
>
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well.  Though I would
> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out
> and I'm not fond of it overall...
>
> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at
> all
>
> Thanks Ken!
>
> -Carol P.
>
> ---
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
> -----------
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look.
>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the
>>> right, not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
>>> (perhaps also in lower case).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Weishiun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned),
>>> but with the placement of option 6.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, either one is fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 option 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>>>
>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 4
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 6
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
>>> field testing!
>>>
>>> Comments on 4 & 6?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we
>>> could try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different
>>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hans Zelle

Re: Logo Proposal

[Gunnar Tapper]

Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The
> dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J
>
>
>
> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion.  Like the dragon to sit on the right,
> not on top of Trafodion.  But the font in #4 looks more professional
> (perhaps also in lower case).
>
>
>
> Weishiun
>
>
>
> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but
> with the placement of option 6.
>
>
>
> That said, either one is fine.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 option 4
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.
>
> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular.
>
>
>
> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name.
>
>
>
> Option 4
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Option 6
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited
> field testing!
>
> Comments on 4 & 6?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So  we could
> try with a simple bold font  . Perhaps with an outline of a different color
> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well.
>
>
>
> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM
>
>
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another
> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the
> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my
> favorite).
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt  wrote:
>
> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary.  The original is a
> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality,
> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something.
>
>
>
> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and
> post another version of that.
>
>
>
> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack  wrote:
>
> +1 on dragon.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson 
> wrote:
>
> +1 on the Dragon!!!  Looks great!
>
>
>
> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it
> separately.  Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)?
>
>
>
>
>
> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is
> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the
> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon
> carries.
>
>
>
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> +1 for Dragon.
>
> The Trafodion cursive writing and color  -1. IMHO we need to rework the
> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and
> complicated with the cursive.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +10 for dragon! Very cute!
>
>
>
> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else
> likes... I give it a +0
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 

Hyperthreading

[Gunnar Tapper]

I'm noticing a check for hyper threading in the Trafodion scanner but it's
a warning. What's the concern?

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Re: Trafodion 1.3 and Hortonworks

[Gunnar Tapper]

Thanks Steve!

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> +1 to Steve.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The daily test automation has been running on both HDP and CDH distros
>> for a long time.  That is only one aspect of the QA testing, but Trafodion
>> has been developed, regression tested, and supported on both distros.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:jian@esgyn.cn]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 6:52 PM
>>
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org; Ma, Sheng-Chen (Aven) <
>> shengchen...@esgyn.cn>
>> *Subject:* RE: Trafodion 1.3 and Hortonworks
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got Aven comment: we didn’t test on HDP previously. Now it comes
>> question, do we need to support it?
>>
>> If yes, we need to plan to thoroughly  test on HDP and make it work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Br,
>>
>>
>>
>> Seth
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:jian@esgyn.cn <jian@esgyn.cn>]
>> *Sent:* 2016年2月3日 10:37
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org; Ma, Sheng-Chen (Aven) <
>> shengchen...@esgyn.cn>
>> *Subject:* RE: Trafodion 1.3 and Hortonworks
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Do we support HDP for Trafodion 1.3? My understanding shall be only
>> vanilla Hbase and CDH Hbase 0.98.10.
>>
>> Aven worked for this we may need get his comment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Br,
>>
>>
>>
>> Seth
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com
>> <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>]
>> *Sent:* 2016年2月3日 5:07
>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Trafodion 1.3 and Hortonworks
>>
>>
>>
>> HDP 2.2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amanda,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the CDH clarification.
>>
>>
>>
>> What about HDP?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Trafodion support CDH 5.2 and 5.3 both on HBase 0.98.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> It's my understanding that Trafodion supports both CDH 5.4.4 and CDH
>> 5.4.5 and, therefore, HBase 1.0.
>>
>>
>>
>> What about HDP 2.2? It uses HBase 0.98.4.
>>
>>
>>
>> *working on the 1.3 Provisioning Guide*
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Amanda Moran
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Amanda Moran
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Amanda Moran
>



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Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: MRv1 vs. MRv2

[Gunnar Tapper]

Thanks.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Hans Zeller <hans.zel...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> No, unless a user explicitly puts it into a UDF, none of the built-in UDFs
> and SPJs use MR.
>
> Hans
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it's a configuration choice. For example:
>> http://www.cloudera.com/documentation/manager/5-0-x/Cloudera-Manager-Managing-Clusters/cm5mc_mapreduce_service.html
>>
>> Are there UDFs, SPJs, and similar functions that use MapReduce, too?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> I think Hive uses MapReduce to sort the data during table population,
>>> after disabling YARN. This is observed on a workstation.
>>>
>>> Thanks -Qifan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Hans Zeller <hans.zel...@esgyn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> That decision would be made by Hive, not Trafodion. For people who use
>>>> install_local_hadoop, we recently changed that setup to use local
>>>> MapReduce, not YARN, see
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1781.
>>>>
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Suresh:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given from what you write, it seems that YARN with MRv2 is required
>>>>> for full functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> MRv1 is a separate install in current distributions, which is why I am
>>>>> asking about it. How does Trafodion decide to run the MapReduce job as 
>>>>> MRv1
>>>>> vs. MRv2 if both are installed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunnar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
>>>>> suresh.subbia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think Trafodion requires YARN for most activity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Hive table access, Trafodion uses Hive metadata access Java API
>>>>>> and libhdfs to actually scan the data file. Therefore YARN is not needed
>>>>>> for Hive access.
>>>>>> YARN is not needed for native Hbase or Trafodion table access too.
>>>>>> YARN is needed for backup/restore, since the HBase exportSnapshot
>>>>>> class Trafodion calls, used MapReduce to copy large snapshot files 
>>>>>> to/from
>>>>>> the backup location.
>>>>>> YARN is also needed for developer regressions as some vanilla Hive
>>>>>> commands are executed during the regression run.
>>>>>> For the last 2 lines I think both MRv1 and MRv2 is supported.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Suresh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
>>>>>> tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does Trafodion require YARN with MRv2 or is MRv1 supported, too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gunnar
>>>>>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunnar
>>>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards, --Qifan
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gunnar
>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>
>
>


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Gunnar
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MRv1 vs. MRv2

[Gunnar Tapper]

Hi,

Does Trafodion require YARN with MRv2 or is MRv1 supported, too?

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