date:20110225

2011-02-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

** Reply to message from Vic Dura  on Fri, 25 Feb 2011
20:31:03 -0600

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:29:38 -0600, "Cliff Scott" 
> wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1:
> 
> >** Reply to message from Thorne  on Fri, 25 Feb
> >2011 10:24:58 -0500
> >
> >> How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
> >> there is no update setting on my install...
> >
> >Install over the top of the last one. If you do that then you keep all the
> >setups and extensions.
> 
> On a WinXP system, can LibreOffice 3.3.1 be installed over OpenOffice
> 3.3.0?

Sure can. I did it at work. I know that some have apparently had bad
experiences so you have to evaluate that possibility, but I have both OOo and
LO installed on XP at work and the install over the top went without problem.
BTW, I also did it at home on W2K. Note - I do not use Quickstarter so no
conflict there.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp

On 02/25/2011 06:31 PM, Vic Dura wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:29:38 -0600, "Cliff Scott" 
> wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1:
> 
>>** Reply to message from Thorne  on Fri, 25 Feb
>>2011 10:24:58 -0500
>>
>>> How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
>>> there is no update setting on my install...
>>
>>Install over the top of the last one. If you do that then you keep all the
>>setups and extensions.
> 
> On a WinXP system, can LibreOffice 3.3.1 be installed over OpenOffice
> 3.3.0?
> 

It's an issue:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

For Windows users that have OpenOffice.org installed, we advise
uninstalling that beforehand, because it registers the same file type
associations.

The issue is that LO uses the same executables as OOo (swriter, etc) and
hasn't yet cleaned up the code to use something else (lowriter, etc).
This can cause *considerable* issues with OOo and LO coexisting on the
same Windows system. If you want to have both installed (on Windows -
it's no issue on linux) at the same time, then I'd suggest installing
'in parallel', see:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

So at this point (on Windows) you are better off with either/or: OOo or
LO, but not both at the same time.

Note: before well known user(s) on this list jump in with comments
regarding linux installs; you can indeed run OOo/distro-OOo/LO-standard
(non-PPA et al) on a linux system without any issues *at all*. In fact
you can run them *all* at the same time. So before you post that you
can't, start a new thread and prove me wrong - with details & facts.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Vic Dura

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:29:38 -0600, "Cliff Scott" 
wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1:

>** Reply to message from Thorne  on Fri, 25 Feb
>2011 10:24:58 -0500
>
>> How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
>> there is no update setting on my install...
>
>Install over the top of the last one. If you do that then you keep all the
>setups and extensions.

On a WinXP system, can LibreOffice 3.3.1 be installed over OpenOffice
3.3.0?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents


On 02/25/2011 08:29 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:

** Reply to message from Charles Marcus  on Fri,
25 Feb 2011 10:14:22 -0500


On 2011-02-24 6:46 PM, NoOp wrote:

Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
Uninstalled those&  only installed English&  the Help|Contents no longer
shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.

Yes, I've run into this...

What is the reasoning behind installing all of these dictionaries???

They are all selected in the install as default and you need to go through
two lists( dictionary and languages) in the custom install to deselect them
before install.

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You installed Windows all-languages right?
The real issue about dictionaries, for my view of it, is that even 
though you speak Spanish, you speak a local version of it and need to 
have that spell checking system.  For English, each region have their 
own spelling of standard words.  Britain English spells words like 
"color" as "colour".  Ask any kid in US schools to tell you what they 
are told when they use the "other" word spelling.  I was told that we 
spell out works our way and do not use any other spelling of these word 
even if it is a "proper" spelling in the dictionary.  This from an 
English teacher when I was young.  I used a dictionary to help spell my 
word in a paper.  Now we have many different version of English, 
Spanish, German, and many other languages.  There are 4 different 
spelling dictionaries for French.  One have a "reform 1990" on its 
title.  Over the years "people with the power" decides what is the 
correct spelling of our words, if there are several "correct" ways to 
spell it.  I took college English and a few years later there were new 
books out telling you that everything you were taught in college [or any 
other school] a few years ago no longer is correct and not excepted 
anymore.  The same goes with spelling words.  So each localized version 
of a language will have different ways to spell the same word that are 
proper for their region and not proper for a different one.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents

** Reply to message from Charles Marcus  on Fri,
25 Feb 2011 10:14:22 -0500

> On 2011-02-24 6:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
> > Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
> > were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
> > Uninstalled those & only installed English & the Help|Contents no longer
> > shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.
> 
> Yes, I've run into this...
> 
> What is the reasoning behind installing all of these dictionaries???

They are all selected in the install as default and you need to go through
two lists( dictionary and languages) in the custom install to deselect them
before install.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1

** Reply to message from Thorne  on Fri, 25 Feb
2011 10:24:58 -0500

> How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
> there is no update setting on my install...

Install over the top of the last one. If you do that then you keep all the
setups and extensions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Don C. Myers  wrote:
> Update:
>
> Here is how I have been installing LibreOffice:
>
>  1. Downloaded the Debian version from LibreOffice.org
>  2. Extracting the download to the desktop
>  3. In the terminal running the following commands: (The exact
>     commands vary with the version)
>  4. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*

Probably should be 'sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*.*'

What are you doing to remove the libobasis elements and the libure element?

>  5. sudo dpkg -i
>     ~/Desktop/LibO_3.3.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
>  6. sudo dpkg -i
>
> ~/Desktop/LibO_3.3.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.3-debian-menus_3.3-8_all.deb
>
That ought to work

> The first time I installed LibreOffice I ran "sudo apt-get remove
:
> though. Everything just always worked fast until now!
>

I recommend using Synaptic to remove everything associated with
LibreOffice - libreoffice*, libure, all the elements of libreoffice
and all the libobasis elements.  It usually takes me two runs - the
first to get the outer level stuff (and checking every box that comes
up), then another to remove the libobasis elements.

If anyone wants it, I modified my LO installation script to allow for
a different directory name than what "should" match the tarball.  Note
this this script should be fairly easy to modify to use rpm instead of
dpkg:


#!/bin/bash
# Written by Mark A. Richter, Copyleft 2011
if [[ -z "$1" ]]; then
echo "Usage: `basename $0` "
exit 1
fi

tgz=$1
if [[ ! -f $tgz ]]; then# try adding the .tar.gz suffices...
tgz="${tgz}.tar.gz"
if [[ ! -f $tgz ]]; then
echo "$tgz does not appear to be a gzipped tarball - please 
check
the file and try again."
exit 1
fi
fi
tar -xzf $tgz
dir=`basename $tgz .tar.gz`
if [[ ! -d $dir/DEBS ]]; then   # check the tarball for different name
new=`tar -tf $tgz | head -1 | sed -e 's:/.*::'`
if [[ $new != $dir && -d $new ]]; then
dir=$new
fi
fi
if [[ ! -d $dir/DEBS ]]; then
echo "I can't see a DEBS subdirectory - check your tarball again."
exit 1
fi
cd $dir/DEBS
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
if [[ -d desktop-integration ]]; then
cd desktop-integration
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
cd ..
fi
cd ../..
echo "Shall I delete $dir?"
read nm
if [[ "$nm" == "y" || "$nm" == "Y" ]]; then
echo "Deleting $dir..."
rm -rf $dir
fi
echo "Done!"
echo ""

(If you want to use this, please be sure to keep the attribution.
Otherwise, it's free.)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Footnote separator

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Marc Grober  wrote:
> The LibreOffice documentation suggests that there should be an option to
> alter the footnote/endnote - but I am unable to locate any place where
> the size/location of the area or the location, size, etc of the
> separator can be set.
>
> Can some tell me why this option is not visible and why the
> documentation suggests that it is  more importantly,  how can I
> remove the separator line.
>

Have you tried Format->Page and look in the Footer tab?  I'm pretty
sure it's right there

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Separate alignment in TOC

2011-02-25 Thread Simon Cropper


On 26/02/11 07:16, Rhot wrote:

Hello!

Recently I faced quite annoying problem regarding table of contents
formatting.
My story:

All my colleagues at work (including the director) use MS Word 2007, but
I prefer LO.
So, my boss ain't against my fairy use of open-source software, but he
requests to follow certain rules of formatting while composing documents.

There is interesting formatting of TOC in our organization. A table of
contents is actually double-aligned! Firstly, the text of headings is
aligned to special value, secondly, page numbers are strictly aligned to
the right side of the page.

For the screen-shots of proper alignment in Word 2007 refer to
http://community.i-rs.ru/index.php/topic,20227.msg112289.html#msg112289.

I found no solution for OOo on that Russian board. Nevertheless I hope
to find answers here.

All the best,
Vladimir.



Vladimir,

The Table of Contents is formatted based on a variety of styles - 
'Contents Heading' 'Contents 1' 'Contents 2'. You can control the format 
of your contents table by changing the paragraph style using Format > 
Styles and Formatting. The character styles, say for example for the 
hyperlinks (blue underlines), can be changed using the same method.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-25 Thread Don C. Myers

Update:

Here is how I have been installing LibreOffice:

1. Downloaded the Debian version from LibreOffice.org
2. Extracting the download to the desktop
3. In the terminal running the following commands: (The exact
commands vary with the version)
4. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
5. sudo dpkg -i
~/Desktop/LibO_3.3.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
6. sudo dpkg -i

~/Desktop/LibO_3.3.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.3-debian-menus_3.3-8_all.deb

The first time I installed LibreOffice I ran "sudo apt-get remove
openoffice*.*" I'm assuming I should be running "sudo apt-get remove
--purge libreoffice*.*" or openoffice to though to get rid of anything
old. So I just did the following:

In the terminal I ran the command for "sudo apt-get remove --purge
openoffice*.* . It found some leftover open office files and suggested a
command to delete them, which I did. Then I did "sudo apt-get remove
--purge libreoffice*.*" to completely get rid of anything old from
LibreOffice. I had deleted all of the Java off my system, so I
reinstalled the current version of 1.6.0_24 so something was there for
Java for LibreOffice, and then reinstalled LibreOffice 3.3.1. The issue
is still the same with LibreOffice base working extremely slowly. I've
not yet successfully found a way to get back to Java version 1.6.0_22. I
never had any issues in the past though. Everything just always worked
fast until now!

On 02/25/2011 03:59 PM, cscj01 wrote:

I can attest to the fact that installing from the debs AFTER removing any
existing LO and OOo files fixes this problem.

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[libreoffice-users] soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found

2011-02-25 Thread Ernest H Harris

I just installed LibreOffice 3.3.1.  The installation appears to be  
successful.  However, when I attempt to run the program, I receive the  message:

soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point osl_setEnvironment could not be located in the 
dynamic 
link library sal3.dll.


I took a snapshot of the error message.  Is is permissible to include 
attachments in these messages?

I am running Windows 7 SP1 (32-bit).

What must I do to correct this?

Ernest
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[libreoffice-users] Footnote separator

2011-02-25 Thread Marc Grober

The LibreOffice documentation suggests that there should be an option to
alter the footnote/endnote - but I am unable to locate any place where
the size/location of the area or the location, size, etc of the
separator can be set.

Can some tell me why this option is not visible and why the
documentation suggests that it is  more importantly,  how can I
remove the separator line.

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Ken Springer  wrote:
> On 2011-02-25 04:33:15 -0700, Tom Davies said:
>>
>> Something much heavier with a load more
>> functionality is "Evolution" which is also free and OpenSource.
>
> I don't think I ever mentioned it in this thread, but I'm on a Mac.
>
Evolution is part of Gnome, but I'm pretty sure it is available for
all platforms.  I'd go check the Gnome home and see, or just Google
for it.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

2011-02-25 Thread Ken Springer


On 2011-02-25 04:33:15 -0700, Tom Davies said:


Something much heavier with a load more
functionality is "Evolution" which is also free and OpenSource.


I don't think I ever mentioned it in this thread, but I'm on a Mac.

Ken



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Re: offlist [libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Mark Stanton  wrote:
> This might be a "thread hijack" (sorry), but I've not been able to
> set LO to be my default for opening... Anything at all.  Windows (XP
> Home) doesn't offer it to me at all, only OO.  Yes, I do have both
> still installed, but...
>
Two possible solutions (in Windows Explorer):

1) Right-click on a file of the type you want to move from default OO
to LO, select "Open With" and "Choose Program..." then select LO and
be sure to check the box "Always use this program"

2) Click "Tools" and "Folder options...", then click on the "File
Types" tab, find your way to the file type(s) you want to change and
set all of them there.

There's also a way to do this from the Control Panel, but I forget that one.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

2011-02-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Cliff Scott  wrote:
> I just updated LO 3.3.0 with 3.3.1 on my W2K machine which went very well. I
> picked up all the settings and extensions as it should. One very strange
> thing, though it changed all the icons for OOo 3.3.0 to the new LO icons.
> Could that be because they all have the same executable file names even
> though they are in different directories? Seems strange to me.
>

For reasons related to the second part of this, I noticed this too.  I
thought it was both odd and annoying because...

(Part 2)

I really detest the new LO icon scheme.  The program icons (for
launchers, etc) are flat and boring, although at least they are now in
different colors, which is not quite as boring as the graphics
themselves.  What I find more annoying is that the icons for the
buttons inside Writer, Calc and so on are not only flatter and more
boring than their predecessors, they are LARGER, which not only cuts
down on the amount of screen left over for the document(s)
itself(themselves), it also reduces the number of buttons that can
appear on each toolbar line, thus completely obscuring many features
that are on the right ends of those toolbars, some to the point of not
working right at all.

For example, the font color control button is now off the right end of
the main toolbar, and that prevents its down-arrow function (open the
color palette to select the deisred color) from operating at all - it
only sets the selected text to the current default color, which is,
essentially, useless.

Can we please have the nice, smaller icons that were in OOo 3.2.1 (or
something like them and smaller than the current icons) back?

(So how did I notice that the OOo icons had been supplanted by the LO
icons?  I opened an OOo window to see the old icons that I liked
before, but they were gone)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Tinkerer


My posts show up all right.
My problem is ,though I have subscribed three time and confirmed, I still
get all my posts held awaiting acceptance.
Lrt us see how this one goes.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread cscj01

Well, sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre were both there in Synaptic for 
me.  I do have 
*http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu 
Maverick Main* as a source for Maverick for both deb and deb-src.  
Perhaps it came from there.  You can try to add those two sources.  
However, you may be able to install by using sudo apt-get install 
sun-java6-bin from a terminal.


On 02/25/2011 03:55 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:
Thank you for the help. I do know that the Java 1.6.0_24 update came 
through about the same time as I did the LibreOffice upgrade. So it 
may have just been coincidence that I had the problem with LibreOffice 
3.3.1 and not 3.3.0.


I completely uninstalled Java 1.6.0_24 and unchecked the Partner 
software source. I actually had several of those. However, when I go 
back to find sun-java6-bin using synaptic it isn't there. I did do a 
refresh of the repositories before I tried to find it. I would 
appreciate knowing where you found it.


Thank you.

Don

On 02/25/2011 03:34 PM, csc...@gmail.com wrote:

Don,

I had exactly the same problem.  Mine actually started with OOo Base 
when Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.20.  I upgraded Sun Java to 1.6.22, 
and that fixed the problem.  Then I switched to LibreOffice and all 
was still okay.  But Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.24, and the problem 
was back big time.


I tried to install 1.6.22 from the debs, but I kept getting a broken 
package, even after completely removing 1.6.24.  So here's how I 
solved it.


I removed the Partners software source (only unchecked it), removed 
1.6.24, installed Sun Java (sun-java6-bin) which gave me 1.6.21.  My 
performance problem was resolved.


I don't know whether the bug is in Java or Libreoffice (and OOo as 
well), but I sent a message to the Libreoffice folks in this mailing 
list suggesting they determine where it was because it can deter 
people from using Libreoffice in a production environment.  I have 
received no response, so I do not know the status.


On 02/25/2011 11:50 AM, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 
3.3.0 came out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation 
is doing.


Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. I'm running it on 
Ubuntu 10.10 on 4 computers and all 4 have the same issue. There is 
a major bug in the base program which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have 
a database with about 2400 records. The form opens a little bit 
slowly. But the BIG problem is if I try to go to the end of the 
database in the form once it opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to 60 
seconds depending on the speed of the computer. I thought it might 
be a java issue, so in tools/options/java I checked my java 
versions. I had the most recent one from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, 
and it also showed 1.6.0_20 was installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one 
selected by default. I selected the 1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the 
same issue. I then deleted Iced Tea, and the older version of java, 
1.6.0_20, so that the only java on my one system is 1.6.0_24. 
Nothing I did made any difference to resolve this issue. The 
database worked perfectly in 3.3.0 on all of the computers.


Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The 
database is very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in 
this version.


Thank you.

Don








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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars

2011-02-25 Thread cscj01


I can attest to the fact that installing from the debs AFTER removing any
existing LO and OOo files fixes this problem.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Don C. Myers

Thank you for the help. I do know that the Java 1.6.0_24 update came 
through about the same time as I did the LibreOffice upgrade. So it may 
have just been coincidence that I had the problem with LibreOffice 3.3.1 
and not 3.3.0.


I completely uninstalled Java 1.6.0_24 and unchecked the Partner 
software source. I actually had several of those. However, when I go 
back to find sun-java6-bin using synaptic it isn't there. I did do a 
refresh of the repositories before I tried to find it. I would 
appreciate knowing where you found it.


Thank you.

Don

On 02/25/2011 03:34 PM, csc...@gmail.com wrote:

Don,

I had exactly the same problem.  Mine actually started with OOo Base 
when Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.20.  I upgraded Sun Java to 1.6.22, 
and that fixed the problem.  Then I switched to LibreOffice and all 
was still okay.  But Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.24, and the problem 
was back big time.


I tried to install 1.6.22 from the debs, but I kept getting a broken 
package, even after completely removing 1.6.24.  So here's how I 
solved it.


I removed the Partners software source (only unchecked it), removed 
1.6.24, installed Sun Java (sun-java6-bin) which gave me 1.6.21.  My 
performance problem was resolved.


I don't know whether the bug is in Java or Libreoffice (and OOo as 
well), but I sent a message to the Libreoffice folks in this mailing 
list suggesting they determine where it was because it can deter 
people from using Libreoffice in a production environment.  I have 
received no response, so I do not know the status.


On 02/25/2011 11:50 AM, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 
3.3.0 came out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is 
doing.


Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. I'm running it on 
Ubuntu 10.10 on 4 computers and all 4 have the same issue. There is a 
major bug in the base program which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a 
database with about 2400 records. The form opens a little bit slowly. 
But the BIG problem is if I try to go to the end of the database in 
the form once it opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds 
depending on the speed of the computer. I thought it might be a java 
issue, so in tools/options/java I checked my java versions. I had the 
most recent one from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it also showed 
1.6.0_20 was installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I 
selected the 1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then 
deleted Iced Tea, and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that 
the only java on my one system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any 
difference to resolve this issue. The database worked perfectly in 
3.3.0 on all of the computers.


Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The 
database is very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in 
this version.


Thank you.

Don






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread cscj01


Don,

I had exactly the same problem.  Mine actually started with OOo Base 
when Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.20.  I upgraded Sun Java to 1.6.22, 
and that fixed the problem.  Then I switched to LibreOffice and all was 
still okay.  But Sun Java was upgraded to 1.6.24, and the problem was 
back big time.


I tried to install 1.6.22 from the debs, but I kept getting a broken 
package, even after completely removing 1.6.24.  So here's how I solved it.


I removed the Partners software source (only unchecked it), removed 
1.6.24, installed Sun Java (sun-java6-bin) which gave me 1.6.21.  My 
performance problem was resolved.


I don't know whether the bug is in Java or Libreoffice (and OOo as 
well), but I sent a message to the Libreoffice folks in this mailing 
list suggesting they determine where it was because it can deter people 
from using Libreoffice in a production environment.  I have received no 
response, so I do not know the status.


On 02/25/2011 11:50 AM, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 
3.3.0 came out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is 
doing.


Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. I'm running it on Ubuntu 
10.10 on 4 computers and all 4 have the same issue. There is a major 
bug in the base program which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a 
database with about 2400 records. The form opens a little bit slowly. 
But the BIG problem is if I try to go to the end of the database in 
the form once it opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds 
depending on the speed of the computer. I thought it might be a java 
issue, so in tools/options/java I checked my java versions. I had the 
most recent one from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it also showed 
1.6.0_20 was installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I 
selected the 1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then 
deleted Iced Tea, and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that the 
only java on my one system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any 
difference to resolve this issue. The database worked perfectly in 
3.3.0 on all of the computers.


Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The database 
is very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in this version.


Thank you.

Don


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[libreoffice-users] Separate alignment in TOC

2011-02-25 Thread Rhot


Hello!

Recently I faced quite annoying problem regarding table of contents 
formatting.

My story:

All my colleagues at work (including the director) use MS Word 2007, but 
I prefer LO.
So, my boss ain't against my fairy use of open-source software, but he 
requests to follow certain rules of formatting while composing documents.


There is interesting formatting of TOC in our organization. A table of 
contents is actually double-aligned! Firstly, the text of headings is 
aligned to special value, secondly, page numbers are strictly aligned to 
the right side of the page.


For the screen-shots of proper alignment in Word 2007 refer to 
http://community.i-rs.ru/index.php/topic,20227.msg112289.html#msg112289.


I found no solution for OOo on that Russian board. Nevertheless I hope 
to find answers here.


All the best,
Vladimir.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Digital Signatures in v3.3

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp

On 02/25/2011 09:41 AM, Rich Smith wrote:
> Digital signatures do not appear to be working.  I'm running:
> 
> LibreOffice 3.3.0 
> 
> OOO330m19 (Build:6)
> 
> tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4
> 
>  
> 
> on Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
> 
>  
> 
> I have a valid certificate, the dialogs all work properly, but the signature
> does not show up.
> 
> 

Only one bug filed regarding digital signatures & that is for a smart card:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31359
[ Problem to sign documents with smart card]
So I'd recommend filing a bug report.

Also see:
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/About_Digital_Signatures
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Applying_Digital_Signatures
to see if perhaps its a configuration issue.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Ron Gregor

That's because I sent the email yesterday. That's why I was asking how long it 
takes for 
posts to show up. I don't know what is causing the delay but if you multiple 
post from me it 
was because after so long I tried to resend it.


Thanks,
Ron 


On 25 Feb 2011 at 14:12, Scott Castaline wrote:

> On 02/24/2011 01:24 PM, Ron Gregor wrote:
> > How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post 
> > yesterday and again
> > today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
> > subscription was finalized? I
> > replied to confirmation email but then nothing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron Gregor
> >
> Ron, you may want to check your system clock as this post showed up with 
> yesterday's time stamp as a new post today.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Scott Castaline


On 02/24/2011 01:24 PM, Ron Gregor wrote:

How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post yesterday 
and again
today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
subscription was finalized? I
replied to confirmation email but then nothing?

Thanks,
Ron Gregor

Ron, you may want to check your system clock as this post showed up with 
yesterday's time stamp as a new post today.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-25 Thread Lisi

On Friday 25 February 2011 14:04:06 Tom Davies wrote:
> Yes, a little strangeness can be amusing or interesting (or even sexy from
> a right person)

But if you are being given instructions on how to do something, and you can't 
make head or tail of the translation, it ceases to be any of those. 

Lisi

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [LO 3.3.1] Crash upon update extension

2011-02-25 Thread Manfred J. Krause

Hi,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 19:44,   wrote:
> I'm trying to update the extensions in LO using the extensions manager and go
> across the update link-button, allways crash in this step.
> This behaviour was pressent in LO 3.3 and now remains in LO 3.3.1

Yes, I can confirm that crash on WinXP.
Please have a look at →
Bug 33701 - Extension Manager: "Check for Updates" – LibO crashes
(Status: NEW)


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[libreoffice-users] [LO 3.3.1] Crash upon update extension

2011-02-25 Thread besr2010-prg

I'm trying to update the extensions in LO using the extensions manager and go 
across the update link-button, allways crash in this step.
This behaviour was pressent in LO 3.3 and now remains in LO 3.3.1


  
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[libreoffice-users] RE: Digital Signatures in v3.3

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Smith

Should have checked for an update before posting, however, now upgraded to
3.3.1, digital signature function is still not working.

From: Rich Smith [mailto:richard.sm...@comodo.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:42 PM
To: 'users@libreoffice.org'
Subject: Digital Signatures in v3.3

Digital signatures do not appear to be working.  I'm running:

LibreOffice 3.3.0 

OOO330m19 (Build:6)

tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4

on Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)

I have a valid certificate, the dialogs all work properly, but the signature
does not show up.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Merge File

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Stanton

Yes, there is.
Use the mailmerge wizard to get you started.

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Ron Gregor

James,

Thanks - I finally did get my subscription confirmation. I will try to 
email to list again.
Ron 

On 25 Feb 2011 at 17:39, James Wilde wrote:

> 
> On Feb 24, 2011, at 19:24 , Ron Gregor wrote:
> 
> > How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post 
> > yesterday and again 
> > today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
> > subscription was finalized? I 
> > replied to confirmation email but then nothing?
> > 
> 
> Normally only a couple of minutes, Ron, for subscribed members.
> 
> Genuine posts are not rejected.  They go to the moderators, who pass them as 
> soon as they can,  If I remember correctly there are three of us on this 
> list, on different continents, so there's not normally a long delay.  Since 
> this post of yours came to us for moderation, I assume that your attempt to 
> subscribe did not work completely, if you are mailing now from the same email 
> account.
> 
> You say you replied to the confirmation email, but then nothing.  If I 
> remember correctly, you should then get back a welcome email, letting you 
> know that your subscription has worked.  It doesn't sound as though that 
> happened.  Dig out the message again and have another go.
> 
> However, even if your subscription didn't work, your message to the list 
> should have appeared, moderated by one of the moderators, so why it hasn't 
> appeared is a mystery.
> 
> Regards
> 
> //James
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[libreoffice-users] Digital Signatures in v3.3

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Smith

Digital signatures do not appear to be working.  I'm running:

LibreOffice 3.3.0 

OOO330m19 (Build:6)

tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4

 

on Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)

 

I have a valid certificate, the dialogs all work properly, but the signature
does not show up.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multi language settings?


On 02/25/2011 07:16 AM, Arda Tunccekic wrote:

Hi , I installed LibreOffice on my ubuntu pc with the following command:

apt-get install libreoffice

Now, under  Tools->Options->Language Settings->Languages menu, there 
is only one Language available.


User Interface : Default English (USA)

How can I install/choose another language?

Thank you.


Download and install the language and help packs for those languages.
You can go to LibreOffice.org's  download page and use the
 "Other way to download LibreOffice, the productivity suite" option.
Click on you .deb type - I use 64-bit Ubuntu so it is Linux x64 (deb)
Click on the "Languagepacks" and you will get the full list of the languages
you can install.  There are 113 localized languages.

You can use the "boxed" option above that, but my way you can click on every
language in a group - Alt right-click - and not need to go through any 
more steps

that that.

Once you download the language packs you want, you will need to install 
the deb files
in order [?] like you would need to do if you used the *sudo dpkg -i 
*.deb* command[s]

for each folder of deb files.

When you use Windows version you can choose multi-language that has included
for your choice in "custom install" a limited amount of languages that 
is "felt" to be
the more used ones.  Or, you can use the Windows all-languages install 
and have the entire

list of languages to choose from, so it is a larger set of files.



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[libreoffice-users] Sorry

2011-02-25 Thread Tractor


I'm still learning how this works. I'm sorry for the double post below!
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Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk

W dniu 25.02.2011 16:24, Thorne pisze:
> How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
> there is no update setting on my install...
>

Download new version and install it.  Install auto-magic remove old
version and put new one.


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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Tractor


Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 3.3.0 came
out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is doing.

Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. The updating went perfectly.
I'm running it on Ubuntu 10.10. There is a major bug in the base program
which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a database with about 2400 records. The
form opens a little bit slowly. But the BIG problem is if I try to go to the
end of the database in the form once it opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to
60 seconds depending on the speed of the computer. I have 4 different
computers I use this database on, and all are doing the same thing. I
thought it might be a java issue, so in tools/options/java I checked my java
versions. I had the most recent one from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it
also showed 1.6.0_20 installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I
selected the 1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then deleted
Iced Tea, and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that the only java on
my system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any difference to resolve this
issue. The database worked perfectly in 3.3.0 on all of the computers.

Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The database is
very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in this version.

Thank you.
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Don C. Myers


Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 3.3.0 
came out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is doing.


Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. I'm running it on Ubuntu 
10.10 on 4 computers and all 4 have the same issue. There is a major bug 
in the base program which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a database with 
about 2400 records. The form opens a little bit slowly. But the BIG 
problem is if I try to go to the end of the database in the form once it 
opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds depending on the speed of 
the computer. I thought it might be a java issue, so in 
tools/options/java I checked my java versions. I had the most recent one 
from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it also showed 1.6.0_20 was 
installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I selected the 
1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then deleted Iced Tea, 
and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that the only java on my one 
system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any difference to resolve this 
issue. The database worked perfectly in 3.3.0 on all of the computers.


Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The database 
is very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in this version.


Thank you.

Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Cor Nouws


Hi Ron,

Ron Gregor wrote (24-02-11 19:24)

How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post yesterday 
and again
today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
subscription was finalized? I
replied to confirmation email but then nothing?


Hmm :-\

However... since this mail comes to the list immediately, pls try again ;-)


Best,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread James Wilde

On Feb 24, 2011, at 19:24 , Ron Gregor wrote:

> How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post 
> yesterday and again 
> today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
> subscription was finalized? I 
> replied to confirmation email but then nothing?
> 

Normally only a couple of minutes, Ron, for subscribed members.

Genuine posts are not rejected.  They go to the moderators, who pass them as 
soon as they can,  If I remember correctly there are three of us on this list, 
on different continents, so there's not normally a long delay.  Since this post 
of yours came to us for moderation, I assume that your attempt to subscribe did 
not work completely, if you are mailing now from the same email account.

You say you replied to the confirmation email, but then nothing.  If I remember 
correctly, you should then get back a welcome email, letting you know that your 
subscription has worked.  It doesn't sound as though that happened.  Dig out 
the message again and have another go.

However, even if your subscription didn't work, your message to the list should 
have appeared, moderated by one of the moderators, so why it hasn't appeared is 
a mystery.

Regards

//James

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[libreoffice-users] Re: open dialog sometimes does not function.

2011-02-25 Thread pridurok

Tom Davies  yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> 
> 
> 
> From: pridurok  gmail.com>
> To: users  libreoffice.org
> Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 8:27:55
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: open dialog sometimes does not function.
> 
> I have same problem, but memory in my laptop is ok. Any help?
> 


Open/save as dialogs does not function. I have openbox wm. No compositing. Once
or twice this worked. Proper operation of dialogs not repeats.


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[libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

2011-02-25 Thread Ron Gregor

How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post yesterday 
and again 
today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
subscription was finalized? I 
replied to confirmation email but then nothing?

Thanks,
Ron Gregor

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Re: offlist [libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Stanton

This might be a "thread hijack" (sorry), but I've not been able to 
set LO to be my default for opening... Anything at all.  Windows (XP 
Home) doesn't offer it to me at all, only OO.  Yes, I do have both 
still installed, but...

Mark Stanton




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[libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Thorne


How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3..
there is no update setting on my install...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-25 Thread T. R. Valentine

On 25 February 2011 02:54, Luuk  wrote:
> On 25-02-11 05:41, T. R. Valentine wrote:
>> Excel could NOT
>> do it.
> Or, you do not know how to do it?
> (i've never worked with Excel2007, but did 'some' things in Excel2003)

I would never claim a possible lack of knowledge! But, in this case, I am
fairly certain it wasn't me.

I used FIND to locate the space between the date and the time. I used LEFT
to extract the characters prior to the space and when that did not produce
a numerical value, I tried both VALUE and TIMEVALUE to convert it to a
numerical value. Neither worked.

Knowing where the space between the date and the time was and determing the
LEN of the entire text string, I used MID to extract the characters
following the space. When that did not produce a numerical value, I tried
both VALUE and TIMEVALUE to convert it to a numerical value. Neither
worked.

On 25 February 2011 05:37, plino  wrote:
>
> VALUE and TIMEVALUE apply to TEXT strings ONLY both in Excel and LibO
>
> If you want to parse a value field you have to use different functions

See above.,

> How did you import the Tab delimited file to LibO?

I did not. I had already done a lot of work with the information in Excel
which I did not want to redo. I saved my work (in .xls instead of .xlsx)
and opened that in Calc.

Does Calc have issues with opening tab-delimited files?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-25 Thread Charles Marcus

On 2011-02-24 6:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
> Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
> were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
> Uninstalled those & only installed English & the Help|Contents no longer
> shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.

Yes, I've run into this...

What is the reasoning behind installing all of these dictionaries???

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[libreoffice-users] Thousands of donors contribute €50,000 in just eight days to The Document Foundation

2011-02-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Thousands of donors contribute €50,000 in just eight days to The 
Document Foundation


LibreOffice Community accomplishes next major milestone
Ongoing donations to support marketing, infrastructure and development


The Community around LibreOffice, the free personal productivity suite, 
has accomplished the next major milestone in establishing The Document 
Foundation as a legal entity. In just eight days, some 2,000 donors from 
all over the world contributed €50,000 for the capital stock necessary 
to set-up the legal entity in Germany.


"We still can't believe it," says Florian Effenberger, Steering 
Committee member. "It happened in such a short period of time and was 
beyond our wildest expectations. You all really rock! On behalf of the 
Community, the Steering Committee would like to thank all the donors for 
their generous support."


The €50,000 collected will form the Foundation's paid-up capital, 
ensuring a permanent future for the organization after the legal 
paperwork is complete, based in Germany. The capital will be frozen 
assets for the Foundation: the funds cannot be spent, and we will be 
able to avail just the annual interest. All money donated from now on 
will actually bankroll our ongoing running costs for things such as 
marketing, hardware, infrastructure, attending trade shows, initial 
financing of merchandising material and, of course, developing new and 
exciting ideas.


"So we still need your support: Every donation helps to pay for our 
future operational running," Effenberger adds.


Details on how to donate to The Document Foundation and how the money 
will be spent are available at http://challenge.documentfoundation.org


Information about LibreOffice can be found at http://www.libreoffice.org
The home of The Document Foundation is at http://www.documentfoundation.org


About The Document Foundation

The Document Foundation has the mission of facilitating the evolution of 
the LibreOffice community into a new, open, independent, and 
meritocratic organization over the next few months. An independent 
Foundation is a better reflection of the values of our contributors, 
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the achievements of the first decade, will encourage wide participation 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Writer Merge File

2011-02-25 Thread Sandeep Pattanyak

Hi All,
My name is Sandeep Pattanayak. I work for a company called System
Automation. I would like to know if there is any equivalent of the way
mail merge is automated in word (word mail merge automation). This
involves using a document template and then replacing all the merge
fields with data at runtime.
Thanks,
Sandeep 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Stanton [mailto:m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:19 AM
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Writer Merge File

After some experimenting it seems to me that if I set up a Writer 
document to link to a csv file as its datasource it stays with 
exactly that file.  If I try to include new data by making a new 
version of the merge file (ie, exactly the same name), I don't get 
the new data, only the old data.

Have I misunderstood, or observed wrongly, somewhere?

Mark Stanton



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[libreoffice-users] Updating to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Barry Premeaux

I have 3.3.0 on a Ubuntu 9.10 machine.  I was wondering if I have to
remove it in order to update to 3.3.1?  Since that was the procedure
for moving from the rc's to the final.  Does it still apply here?

Barry

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[libreoffice-users] Writer Merge File

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Stanton

After some experimenting it seems to me that if I set up a Writer 
document to link to a csv file as its datasource it stays with 
exactly that file.  If I try to include new data by making a new 
version of the merge file (ie, exactly the same name), I don't get 
the new data, only the old data.

Have I misunderstood, or observed wrongly, somewhere?

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

Hi :)

Yes, a little strangeness can be amusing or interesting (or even sexy from a 
right person) but well written documentation is probably better and that seems 
to be the aim of the NL Teams.  I gained a LOT of respect for translators when 
my boss asked me to find an MT to reduce costs of translations.  


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Helmar 
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 25 February, 2011 11:59:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

Yes Tom

Translanting is more than only "translating".. is makin it understandable
for those who´s going to use the Suite...
As a native Brazilian I contribute with traductions of LibO documentation...
and I can say that at least in Brazilian Portuguese
the machine translators would generate a misunderstood and even strange

I´m working nowadays translanting the user guides "getting started..."
trying to make it easier and helpful for brazilian users


Helmar Fernandes
===
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www.aquahobby.com
www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas



On 24 February 2011 23:08, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
>
> Translations done by humans that understand the target language are really
> the
> only way to get a useful result.  I would guess that sometimes
> machine-translators help but often MTs generate confusion or amusement
> rather
> than good answers - even despite recent dramatic steps forwards in MTs.
>
> Luckily this Office Suite has been around for over 10years AND it has a
> huge
> international, multilingual community.  The Suite has changed names 2 times
> in
> the last decade with a few people from the community continuing under the
> old
> name each time.  Even those left behind continue to help this project and
> TDF
> tries to share good results with them too.
>
> Brazilian-Portuguese has at least 2 fairly massive communities and i think
> 1 of
> them even gets funding to help with marketing, support, development and
> translations.  German and Italian teams are also strong.  Pardus (one
> government's operating system (a linux desktop distro)) was one of the
> first
> adopters of LibreOffice.  Most other countries that fund development of
> their
> own linux desktop distros already have (or soon will (probably)) adopt LO
> too.
>
> Translations are NOT a trivial issue but LibreOffice has support from
> several
> large organisations (RedHat, Canonical, Ubuntu-community etc) and even some
> support from various governments.  It does seem that LibreOffice builds a
> lot
> from voluntary work and highly values even small contributions from
> volunteers
> but there are other factors bolstering that.  Always good to see someone
> new
> join, so welcome in :)
>
> I still don't know the original problem but hopefully you have been able to
> copy&paste it to an appropriate "NL" Team's support mailing list.
> Good luck and many regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Helmar 
> To: users@libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 19:23:20
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos
>
> Helmar Fernandes
> ===
> Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat user
> www.aquahobby.com
> www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas
>
>
>
> On 24 February 2011 15:42, Glenn  wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom and Luis,
> >
> > I forgot about the many translations of LibreOffice out there.  But I
> don't
> > think there is a version
> > in Portugese currently available; however, I discussed the issue of
> > additional translations
> > with a friend several days ago - before this issue was even posted.
>
>
> I Glenn  yes there is a version of LibreOffice in Portuguese
> but
> if you´re referring to Portuguese from Portugal the answer is I dont
> know...
> I´m talking about Brazilian Portuguese
> (PT-BR)
> which is different from the PT that refers to all other places where the
> portuguese language is spoken...
>
> And I´m proud to say that we are one of the most active LibreOffice
> communities all around the world.
> If you want you can take a look at our
> magazine.
>
> > He said providing a version of s/w in another language was fairly easy:
> you
> > only have to
> > understand the language you are translating from and the one you want to
> > translate to
> > for verification of the translation.
> >
> > He tells me that there are packages readily available to automate the
> > translation.  He
> > says that this is probably how other, non-English versions have been made
> > available
> > for LibreOffice.  Some minor editing  may be required and, according to
> > him, they are mainly
> > limited to using abbreviations in order to fit the field.
> >
> > So there seems to be a solution already available!  That is a good thing!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> > On 2/24/11 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >>
> >> English is the o

offlist Re: [libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

Hi :)

Probably although i thought the pathnames were slightly different.  However, if 
you set LibreOffice to be the default for opening office files (the default is 
tick in the tick-box on the final screen of the installer) then OpenOffice will 
probably search for various things first in the LibreOffice folders and only 
look into the OpenOffice folders if it doesn't find anything.  I think you can 
open OpenOffice and persuade it to be the default app again.  It is odd tho as 
you are the first person to notice and report the problem.  I would have 
expected people to mention this a few weeks ago.

Just out of curiosity and on a different subject what is the machine's cpu 
speed 
and ram-size?  Do you have about 15Gb free space on your hard-drive?  have you 
considered using a linux distro so that the machine runs faster again?  If not 
then i might be able to help you run a free trial version of a few without 
affecting your Windows at all.  Please let me know if you are interested.

Regards from
Tom :)






From: Cliff Scott 
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 25 February, 2011 12:35:54
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

I just updated LO 3.3.0 with 3.3.1 on my W2K machine which went very well. I
picked up all the settings and extensions as it should. One very strange
thing, though it changed all the icons for OOo 3.3.0 to the new LO icons.
Could that be because they all have the same executable file names even
though they are in different directories? Seems strange to me.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: comments are disappearing

Hi :)

I guess the detailed answer is to ask which operating system you are using; 
Windows, Linux (such as Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Mint, Salix ...), BSD or Mac?  


For Windows probably the best program is WinRar
http://www.win-rar.com/download.html
WinRar is available for Windows, Linux, BSD and Mac
http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
although most OSes (except Windows) probably have something built-in already.

Most of the linux distros tend to have an archive reader built-in that can read 
zip format but knowing which distro would help us find the name of the archive 
manager/reader.

Please see Lyudmil's answer at the bottom of this thread.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: lnvas 
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 25 February, 2011 9:30:18
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: comments are disappearing

Andy  wrote (02/24/2011 issue 157_2886):

> I've been using LibreOffice for a couple months now to grade student's papers,
> to which I append ample comments. I've just discovered that when I save the
> document in Microsoft 2007 format and then open it up again, all the comments
> I've written disappear.
> ...
> Is there any way to retrieve them? Is that
> information still contained somewhere within the file?
> ...

Hi,

File format descriptor (first 2 bytes) of *.docx files is PK, i.e. zip format.
Use some un-zipper (7-zip, WinRAR, ...) to extract the document tree structure.
The document contents itself is in "\word\document.xml",
and the comments are in "\docProps\core.xml".
(Use Notepad or similar, search "description".
XML-Notepad couldn't help, for me at least.)

Regards,

Lyudmil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't Install LibreOffice on Fedora 14 with OpenOffice

2011-02-25 Thread Scott Castaline


On 02/25/2011 04:49 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:02:07 -0800 (PST)
Bad2theBone  wrote:


What is the status of this issue? I have the same problem. I have both OOo&
LO installed but cannot install the desktop-environment rpm for redhat-menu.
What is the commands to launch each app, so for now I could manually create
menu entrees?

The usual way is using

swriter
scalc
simpress

and so on to start the individual modules. But since you have both OOo and LibO 
installed, you might want to call the app with the complete path to make sure, 
that the correct one starts. Once you've done this, you could create some 
aliases like owriter and lwriter to be able to differentiate between the two 
software packages.

Sigrid.


I did finally get it to install using rpm -ivh --force rpm-file-name. I 
saw this in another thread basically complaining about the same thing. I 
was not able to find an equivalent in yum as I prefer to use that. 
Thanks for the response. I did finally figure out the commands just the 
way you give them. Pretty neat how LO was able to duplicate my settings 
from OOo as well as my templates, so everything is there and functioning 
as before with OOo.


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[libreoffice-users] Icons changed in OOo after LO 3.3.1 install.

I just updated LO 3.3.0 with 3.3.1 on my W2K machine which went very well. I
picked up all the settings and extensions as it should. One very strange
thing, though it changed all the icons for OOo 3.3.0 to the new LO icons.
Could that be because they all have the same executable file names even
though they are in different directories? Seems strange to me.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Word crashes when exporting larg file to XP format - bug report

2011-02-25 Thread Mimosa Murr

My distro's repos have moved to 3.3.1, and that particular issue no longer
ocurs with that file. I've noticed a few other glitches that add up to quite
a buggy impression, though - if this persists in 3.3.1, I'll report here.

On 23 February 2011 13:11, Mimosa Murr  wrote:

> I just noticed that the subject line I chose is highly misleading!
>
> I was using *Writer*, not Word. The brainwashing during my years as a
> Microsoft user still clearly hasn't worn off.
>
> @Tom - Salix is a lot easier than Slackware, so even a newbie like myself
> can use it without too many problems! But it has Slackware's stability and
> transparency, alongside some very elegant graphical system management and
> configuration tools. Above all, software dependencies are dealt with
> automatically in package management.
>
>
> On 22 February 2011 18:19, Mimosa Murr  wrote:
>
>> I've been working on a translation for the past week or so. The file was
>> provided in Word format. Initially I tried to work with it as such but
>> Writer froze while "exporting" the file as it (presumably) autosaved. A bit
>> before half way, the status bar stopped in its tracks.
>>
>> I then started working in open document format, with no problems, but on
>> completing the job, when I tried to save as XP, the same thing happened. I
>> gave it a long time to complete (maybe 15 minutes) but it stayed frozen.
>> When I attempted to convert the same file using OpenOffice, there were no
>> problems.
>>
>> As I said in my original post, this was using Salix 13.2 beta. Salix is
>> preparing to switch to LibreOffice for its next release.
>>
>> This is the version installed:
>>
>> root[mimosa]# slapt-get -l | grep libre
>> djvulibre-3.5.22-i486-2 [inst=yes]: djvulibre (web-centric document and
>> image format)
>> libreoffice-3.3.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: libreoffice (free office suite)
>> libreoffice-l10n-af-3.3.0-i486-1gv [inst=no]: libreoffice-l10n-af
>> Afrikaans
>>
>> 
>>
>> Unfortunately, reliable conversion to proprietary file formats remains a
>> regrettable necessity for office productivity.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 February 2011 15:54, MR ZenWiz  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Mimosa Murr  wrote:
>>> > The file was about 15,000 words long, with a big table in the middle,
>>> one
>>> > graphical image, and nothing else notable.
>>> >
>>> > I did a test with a small file with just text, and the problem did not
>>> > occur.
>>> >
>>> > I was able to convert the file using OpenOffice.
>>> >
>>> > If this is at all common, it's obviously a problem for anyone who needs
>>> to
>>> > exchange files with Windows users.
>>> >
>>> > This was in the beta of Salix 13.2, a Slackware-derived distro that is
>>> > making the switch to LibreOffice for 13.2.
>>> >
>>> Can you explain in a little more detail what is happening and how LO
>>> is involved?
>>>
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[libreoffice-users] update option

2011-02-25 Thread Luiz Oliveira

Passing on a question raised in the local list:

What happened to the option of online update BrOffice 3.3?
When trying to upgrade to 3.3.1 I noticed that there was this option?
Been removed permanently or will return? Does anyone know why?
I thank everyone's attention!

Rgds,

((Fabio Farias))


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[libreoffice-users] Multi language settings?

2011-02-25 Thread Arda Tunccekic


Hi , I installed LibreOffice on my ubuntu pc with the following command:

apt-get install libreoffice

Now, under  Tools->Options->Language Settings->Languages menu, there is 
only one Language available.


User Interface : Default English (USA)

How can I install/choose another language?

Thank you.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update from 3.3.1-rc-2 to 3.3.1

2011-02-25 Thread Joachim Wiedorn

MR ZenWiz  wrote on 2011-02-23 11:46:

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Manfred J. Krause
>  wrote:
> >
> > Yes.
> > "This release is bit-for-bit identical to the 3.3.1 Release Candidate
> > 2, so you don't need to download or reinstall if you have that version
> > already."
> > → Release Notes – LibreOffice 3.3.1 Final (2011-02-23)
> > 
> >
> 
> Unfortunately, this also includes the minor detail that the downloaded
> tarball, at least for 64 bit deb packages, still has the same
> directory name as rc2, so manual intervention is required to do the
> install (i.e., that script I posted some time back won't work with
> this release because the tarball's name does not match the untarred
> directory).
> 
> Is a little consistency in the releases too much to ask?
 
Perhaps you know, that 3.3.1-rc2 is identical to 3.3.1 (final). And I
think this is the reason, that all (files, sizes ...) are the same.
And if both versions are the same, why should they compile and package 
all packages for all architetures again only for changing ONE number?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-25 Thread Helmar

Yes Tom

Translanting is more than only "translating".. is makin it understandable
for those who´s going to use the Suite...
As a native Brazilian I contribute with traductions of LibO documentation...
and I can say that at least in Brazilian Portuguese
the machine translators would generate a misunderstood and even strange

I´m working nowadays translanting the user guides "getting started..."
trying to make it easier and helpful for brazilian users


Helmar Fernandes
===
Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat user
www.aquahobby.com
www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas



On 24 February 2011 23:08, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
>
> Translations done by humans that understand the target language are really
> the
> only way to get a useful result.  I would guess that sometimes
> machine-translators help but often MTs generate confusion or amusement
> rather
> than good answers - even despite recent dramatic steps forwards in MTs.
>
> Luckily this Office Suite has been around for over 10years AND it has a
> huge
> international, multilingual community.  The Suite has changed names 2 times
> in
> the last decade with a few people from the community continuing under the
> old
> name each time.  Even those left behind continue to help this project and
> TDF
> tries to share good results with them too.
>
> Brazilian-Portuguese has at least 2 fairly massive communities and i think
> 1 of
> them even gets funding to help with marketing, support, development and
> translations.  German and Italian teams are also strong.  Pardus (one
> government's operating system (a linux desktop distro)) was one of the
> first
> adopters of LibreOffice.  Most other countries that fund development of
> their
> own linux desktop distros already have (or soon will (probably)) adopt LO
> too.
>
> Translations are NOT a trivial issue but LibreOffice has support from
> several
> large organisations (RedHat, Canonical, Ubuntu-community etc) and even some
> support from various governments.  It does seem that LibreOffice builds a
> lot
> from voluntary work and highly values even small contributions from
> volunteers
> but there are other factors bolstering that.  Always good to see someone
> new
> join, so welcome in :)
>
> I still don't know the original problem but hopefully you have been able to
> copy&paste it to an appropriate "NL" Team's support mailing list.
> Good luck and many regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Helmar 
> To: users@libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 19:23:20
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos
>
> Helmar Fernandes
> ===
> Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat user
> www.aquahobby.com
> www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas
>
>
>
> On 24 February 2011 15:42, Glenn  wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom and Luis,
> >
> > I forgot about the many translations of LibreOffice out there.  But I
> don't
> > think there is a version
> > in Portugese currently available; however, I discussed the issue of
> > additional translations
> > with a friend several days ago - before this issue was even posted.
>
>
> I Glenn  yes there is a version of LibreOffice in Portuguese
> but
> if you´re referring to Portuguese from Portugal the answer is I dont
> know...
> I´m talking about Brazilian Portuguese
> (PT-BR)
> which is different from the PT that refers to all other places where the
> portuguese language is spoken...
>
> And I´m proud to say that we are one of the most active LibreOffice
> communities all around the world.
> If you want you can take a look at our
> magazine.
>
> > He said providing a version of s/w in another language was fairly easy:
> you
> > only have to
> > understand the language you are translating from and the one you want to
> > translate to
> > for verification of the translation.
> >
> > He tells me that there are packages readily available to automate the
> > translation.  He
> > says that this is probably how other, non-English versions have been made
> > available
> > for LibreOffice.  Some minor editing  may be required and, according to
> > him, they are mainly
> > limited to using abbreviations in order to fit the field.
> >
> > So there seems to be a solution already available!  That is a good thing!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> > On 2/24/11 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >>
> >> English is the only language i understand although sometimes i can
> >> understand
> >> american geek too.  Still, there are so many machine translators
> available
> >> that
> >> the need to stick rigorously to 1 single language seems a bit out-dated
> >> even for
> >> people like me.  It probably is best to stick with american or English
> in
> >> this
> >> list but accidents happen and they remind us that TDF is greater than we
> >> are
> >> normally aware of.  "To err is human but feels devine"
> >>
> >> Regards from
> >>

[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-25 Thread plino


VALUE and TIMEVALUE apply to TEXT strings ONLY both in Excel and LibO

If you want to parse a value field you have to use different functions

How did you import the Tab delimited file to LibO?
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