[libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Dear all: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffce without tray icon? Thank you. Regards, Minhsien0330 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
At 16:33 13/01/2014 +0800, Min Hsien wrote: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffice without tray icon? Probably - depending on your operating system. In Windows, for example, right-click in the Taskbar and select Properties. On the Taskbar tab, under Notification area, tick Hide inactive icons and click Customize... . Click the Quickstarter reference and select Always hide from the drop-down menu for Behavior. (But these directions do vary between Windows versions.) Of course, having the icon there provides a quick means of opening new or existing documents through the context menu. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Hi :) I think Brian is mainly talking about Xp there. Win8 doesn't seem to have a system tray, but so far i've managed to mostly dodge Win8. Win7 allows you to set parameters for each individual icon in the system tray. Why does it matter how much stuff is showing in the system tray? My guess is that you have so much stuff starting up at start-up that machine's performance is a LOT slower and some IT person has suggested that reducing the amount of stuff in the system tray will improve performance. However, just hiding the icons wont have any impact on performance at all. If you want you could list all the icons that do appear and we might be able to suggest ones that would be good to completely get rid of. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 08:53, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 16:33 13/01/2014 +0800, Min Hsien wrote: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffice without tray icon? Probably - depending on your operating system. In Windows, for example, right-click in the Taskbar and select Properties. On the Taskbar tab, under Notification area, tick Hide inactive icons and click Customize... . Click the Quickstarter reference and select Always hide from the drop-down menu for Behavior. (But these directions do vary between Windows versions.) Of course, having the icon there provides a quick means of opening new or existing documents through the context menu. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
Thank you Paul and Brian for your interesting answers and for your kindness to send them so soon. I have not checked them yet but I am sure that both of them give me what I was looking for. I see thepros and cons in Paul's method: by splitting the calculation in details you can follow both the process and the reliability of the result, but at cost of space. But, there is more fun in Brian's solution; I have always liked to create such complex formulas partly to be familiar with the spreadsheet program and it's functions but now a days mostly because it is very good exercise for an old man's brain --it is a challenge and then a good reason to award yourself with a drink when it finally works. I think I was quite near Brian's solution, but something went wrong, so I had to shout for help. Paul's answer is interesting from another point of view also -- he changes the decimal sign from a comma to a period and replaces the periods replaced by commas to get the correct thousand separator. If you Google (e.g.) decimal dot vs. comma you will get a map that shows How the world separates its decimals. We in Finland, like all European countries -- with the U.K. as the only exception -- use a comma as decimal sign. Another page Decimal and Thousand Separators says: Great Britain and the United States are two of the few places in the world that use a period to indicate the decimal place. Many other countries use a comma instead... Likewise, while the U.K. and U.S. use a comma to separate groups of thousands, many other countries use a period instead, and some countries separate thousands groups with a thin space. Personally I have never understood the need or benefits of any thousand separator -- I have never used it neither private, in technical planning nor in (international)business. Thanks again and best regards Pertti Rönnberg On 12.1.2014 19:22, Paul wrote: I haven't so much tried to answer your question directly, instead I attempted to solve the same problem you did. For me, this gives a simpler answer. Given: Col A: The initial bank value as text Col B: =IF(RIGHT(A1,1)=-,Debit,Credit) Col C: =LEN(A1) Col D: =LEFT(A1,C1-1) Col E: =FIND(,,D1) Col F: =SUBSTITUTE(D1,.,,) Col G: =REPLACE(F1,E1,1,.) Col H: =VALUE(G1) Col I: =IF(B1=Debit, 0-H1, H1) Col A holds the initial value as given by your bank, as text. Col B then looks at the last character of that value, and displays either Debit, if the character was a minus sign, or Credit for anything else. Col C gives the total length of the initial text value Col D gives the initial value stripped of the last character, the plus or minus sign. Col E gives us the position of the comma, so that we can turn it into a period later. Col F gives us the stripped value (from col D) with the periods replaced by commas, for correct thousand separators. Col G gives us the value from col F with the final comma changed to a period, for correct decimal separator. This text string should now be correctly formatted for interpreting as a number. Col H gives us the value from col G interpreted as a number. Col I gives us the final value we want. This is derived from col H, which has the initial value as a number, without the correct plus or minus sign, and we use the value in col B to determine if we should use the number as is, or subtract it from zero to get a negative number. I formatted this column as currency. I tested it with the following: 11.200,33+ == R 11,200.3 2.500.236,65- == R-2,500,236.65 11,25+ == R 11.25 0,96- == R-0.96 If I understand you correctly, this is exactly what you want. No need to mess around with numbers under or over 9.999,99. Of course, you can combine some of those formulas to use less extra cells, but the more you combine stuff, the more complex it becomes, and I don't know where you'd like to draw the line for complexity of formulas vs complexity of page layout, so I leave that part up to you. Hope this helps you out. Paul On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:55:17 +0200 Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi wrote: Happy New Year Dear LibO experts, Since years back I have copied my bank's digital listing of my bank account(s); first using MSOWord and later on MSOExcel. My intension is to transform these listings so I can calculate with the currency values in LibO-Calc. The bank's table has four cols: colA=date, colBcolC= text and colD is the currency as text. Each listing consists of several hundreds of events (rows). The problem is that the damn bank -- against all standards -- gives the currency values with a dot (.) as thousand separator and + or - chars (plus or minus) in the right end of each number (e.g. 987,65+, 1.234,56-, 23.456,78+) -- which is against Calc's will. By now I have managed to get LibO/Calc to accept all values less than 9.999,99: first dragged (copied) the table from MSWord = MSExcel; MSExcel-file saved in LibO/Calc as ods in Calc = function TRIM(D5) to get rid of non-printable chars
[libreoffice-users] Re: Import into a Template
James You have not read my request correctly. I know how to use Templates and I know you can add to the text, I also know that you cannot import another file into the Document, you can only Paste something in. This applies whether you are using a New Document, or one created from a Template. Brian Barker has it right, I must accept that the file will be on another sheet and then Paste Special into my Formatted Sheet. I might add. The Bank Date Format uses Hyphens, Cor Nous Extension CT2N corrects this. With a small adjustment it will also recognize numbers prefixed by a Currency sign. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Import-into-a-Template-tp4091874p4091971.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Default Template
Many thanks Brian. I wasn't until widened the Template Manager Window that I realised all these other options Existed. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/SOLVED-Default-Template-tp4091871p4091972.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
I am sorry that I did not tell you I am using Linux (Debian). Thanks. Regards, Minhsien0330 2014/1/13 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com Hi :) I think Brian is mainly talking about Xp there. Win8 doesn't seem to have a system tray, but so far i've managed to mostly dodge Win8. Win7 allows you to set parameters for each individual icon in the system tray. Why does it matter how much stuff is showing in the system tray? My guess is that you have so much stuff starting up at start-up that machine's performance is a LOT slower and some IT person has suggested that reducing the amount of stuff in the system tray will improve performance. However, just hiding the icons wont have any impact on performance at all. If you want you could list all the icons that do appear and we might be able to suggest ones that would be good to completely get rid of. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 08:53, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 16:33 13/01/2014 +0800, Min Hsien wrote: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffice without tray icon? Probably - depending on your operating system. In Windows, for example, right-click in the Taskbar and select Properties. On the Taskbar tab, under Notification area, tick Hide inactive icons and click Customize... . Click the Quickstarter reference and select Always hide from the drop-down menu for Behavior. (But these directions do vary between Windows versions.) Of course, having the icon there provides a quick means of opening new or existing documents through the context menu. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Hi :) On GnuLinux just switch the Quick Starter off. It doesn't do much in GnuLinux apparently and might just make things awkward when you upgrade or try to run multiple versions. GnuLinux is completely different from Windows and designed to be much more responsive and efficient with resources such as Ram, so you don't really need to section off a protected space in Ram for LibreOffice or anything and you don't need to have it quietly running in the background to make it appear to start faster. So i don't think you really get many benefit from having the Quickstarter enabled in GnuLinux. I take it you are using KDE rather than Gnome or Xfce or anything as your Desktop Environment? I think Debian is one of those that gives a lot of choices so it's not always clear what people have chosen. The Debian machines i use have carefully avoided havign any DE at all so it's all command-line based which is great for servers but not so good for desktops. On desktops i'm more familiar with Unity (Ubuntu only) or Gnome (runs on most different flavours of GnuLinux). I've not really seen KDE in action. Gnome doesn't really seem to have a system-tray as such. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 13:15, minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry that I did not tell you I am using Linux (Debian). Thanks. Regards, Minhsien0330 2014/1/13 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com Hi :) I think Brian is mainly talking about Xp there. Win8 doesn't seem to have a system tray, but so far i've managed to mostly dodge Win8. Win7 allows you to set parameters for each individual icon in the system tray. Why does it matter how much stuff is showing in the system tray? My guess is that you have so much stuff starting up at start-up that machine's performance is a LOT slower and some IT person has suggested that reducing the amount of stuff in the system tray will improve performance. However, just hiding the icons wont have any impact on performance at all. If you want you could list all the icons that do appear and we might be able to suggest ones that would be good to completely get rid of. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 08:53, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 16:33 13/01/2014 +0800, Min Hsien wrote: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffice without tray icon? Probably - depending on your operating system. In Windows, for example, right-click in the Taskbar and select Properties. On the Taskbar tab, under Notification area, tick Hide inactive icons and click Customize... . Click the Quickstarter reference and select Always hide from the drop-down menu for Behavior. (But these directions do vary between Windows versions.) Of course, having the icon there provides a quick means of opening new or existing documents through the context menu. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] (Serious) issues with Impress rendering documents
When creating a document in Impress (using the fonts Papyrus and Comic Sans) everything is rendered fine, that is, sometimes the font size is getting decreased automatically/arbitrarily, filling the whole text box, but apparently using a font size bigger than indicated in the corresponding drop down box, and upon re-entering the very same text box, the text is displayed at the actual, smaller one. Anyways, the issue at hand is, in Impress the document is looking perfectly fine, but when exporting as PDF the text is exceeding the right hand border by far, and the text is getting cut off! :( Please see enclosed screenshots for some details. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs.
Hi :) It might be good to contact the developers about that. Perhaps post a bug-report and then use the drop-downs to turn into a feature request for someone keen to jump on. 76% is huge!! Regards from Tom :) On 11 January 2014 21:52, frank ernest do...@mail.com wrote: I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs. tar -c dir | xz -4 -e file.tar.xz 16,760 tar.xz 21,919 odt 76.46334230576213% If you were really crazy you could use a custom filter chain to knock off an additional 0.4927232081755619%. xz -k -C sha256 --lzma2=dict=64MiB,lc=4,lp=0,pb=0,mf=bt4,mode=normal,\ nice=273,depth=500 file.tar 75.97061909758656% 16,652 tar.xz And it only takes my system (64bit 3.2 GHz,) real 0m0.399s user 0m0.248s sys 0m0.148s to complete the above custom filter chain task so it can't be that hard for an older system to do. The file I tested this on was a very old file from before I knew much about computers. I created it because intranet explioter can't manage to save wiki pages and I was most interested in saving the file on how to create a level. So it should be freely reditributable and I include it for the interseted. It's decompressed size is 213,906 bytes Yielding 10.247024393892644% odt and 7.7847278711209595% tar.xz for the custom filter chain. I think a savings of about 25% is worth looking into. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
On 01/13/14 05:10, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Thank you Paul and Brian for your interesting answers and for your kindness to send them so soon. I have not checked them yet but I am sure that both of them give me what I was looking for. I see thepros and cons in Paul's method: by splitting the calculation in details you can follow both the process and the reliability of the result, but at cost of space. But, there is more fun in Brian's solution; I have always liked to create such complex formulas partly to be familiar with the spreadsheet program and it's functions but now a days mostly because it is very good exercise for an old man's brain --it is a challenge and then a good reason to award yourself with a drink when it finally works. I think I was quite near Brian's solution, but something went wrong, so I had to shout for help. [snip] Hi Pertti, I don't see Brian's reply to you(maybe he emailed you privately). Could you please post it so other's could see it? -regards, Larry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
My husband has been working on a spreadsheet for over a month when last night our laptop was unplugged. The battery is busted and the only way to keep the laptop on is to have it plugged in. When he booted the laptop back up he was prompted to recover the file and the recovery failed.He is them prompted to choose an ACSII Filter option. When he chooses the option he gets a window that says Document file 'name%20name.ods' is locked for editing by Unknown User Open document read-only or open a copy of document for editing. Each option opens a word document with this for 3 pages: ice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=SoftClose oor:op=fusevaluefalse/value/prop/itemitem oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.ChartWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=Style oor:op=fusevalue0/value/prop/itemitem The file had been saved many times before, is there a way I can either save this file or open a past save? This is an ancient laptop (MacOS 10.4.11) so alot of downloads wont work for it. If I can email the file to an up to date laptop then I could save it. Can anyone help me? My husband is really upset about losing this file and is already battling depression and this does not need to be another thing on his list to be upset about. Thanks for everyone help! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-File-Help-tp4092029.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
Larry, Here is a copy/paste copy of Brian's comments to my message. I hope Brian does not mind. Regards Pertti Rönnberg Since years back I have copied my bank's digital listing of my bank account(s); first using MSOWord and later on MSOExcel. My intention is to transform these listings so I can calculate with the currency values in LibO-Calc. The bank's table has four cols: colA=date, colBcolC= text and colD is the currency as text. Each listing consists of several hundreds of events (rows). The problem is that the damn bank -- against all standards -- gives the currency values with a dot (.) as thousand separator and + or - chars (plus or minus) in the right end of each number (e.g. 987,65+, 1.234,56-, 23.456,78+) -- which is against Calc's will. By now I have managed to get LibO/Calc to accept all values less than 9.999,99: first dragged (copied) the table from MSWord = MSExcel; MSExcel-file saved in LibO/Calc as ods I'm not sure why you want to use Microsoft Word or Excel. You can open a .doc file in LibreOffice (as a text file) and copy and paste the table into a spreadsheet there. You can open an .xls file directly in LibreOffice. If your bank's original data is plain text or web material, you can import this directly into a LibreOffice spreadsheet. _Question:_ What formula/function gives the same result for the bank's currency values bigger than 9.999,99? e.g. 11.222,33+, 11.222.333,44- It's a bit messy, but this should work: =VALUE(RIGHT(Xn;1)SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(Xn;.;);+;);-;)) Cannot get the Fixed() -- when trying to eliminate the separator/dot that way -- working in this 'project' either. This is no help. If you already had correctly interpreted numbers (which you don't: that's the problem), FIXED() would convert these to text (with which you then couldn't calculate) - exactly the opposite of what you are trying to do. Once you have your real numbers, you can control their appearance by choosing appropriate cell formats, of course. I trust this helps. Brian Barker On 13.1.2014 19:15, Larry Evans wrote: On 01/13/14 05:10, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Thank you Paul and Brian for your interesting answers and for your kindness to send them so soon. I have not checked them yet but I am sure that both of them give me what I was looking for. I see thepros and cons in Paul's method: by splitting the calculation in details you can follow both the process and the reliability of the result, but at cost of space. But, there is more fun in Brian's solution; I have always liked to create such complex formulas partly to be familiar with the spreadsheet program and it's functions but now a days mostly because it is very good exercise for an old man's brain --it is a challenge and then a good reason to award yourself with a drink when it finally works. I think I was quite near Brian's solution, but something went wrong, so I had to shout for help. [snip] Hi Pertti, I don't see Brian's reply to you(maybe he emailed you privately). Could you please post it so other's could see it? -regards, Larry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] [calc]mmult with transpose arg drops last row
I've a spreadsheet with 2 3x2 matridces side by side (A1:D3).
I want to mmult(A1:B3;transpose(C1:D3)); however,
the result has the last row truncated. IOW, the
resulting matrix is 2x3 instead of 3x3.
The spreadsheet also has the transpose stored separately
in cells A5:C12, and then the mmult done with this separately
stored transpose, and the result is a 3x3 matrix, as expected.
Here's the printout of formulas in csv notation:
1,4,7,10
2,5,8,11
3,6,9,12
,,,
{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},
{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},{=TRANSPOSE(C1:D3)},
,,,
{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},
{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},
{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},{=MMULT(A1:B3,A5:C6)},
,,,
{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},
{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},{=MMULT(A1:B3,TRANSPOSE(C1:D3))},
Why are there only 2 rows instead of 3 in the last result
[the one done with mmult(a1:b3,transpose(c1:d3))]?
TIA.
-regards,
Larry
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Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs.
Hi Frank, frank ernest schrieb: I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs. tar -c dir | xz -4 -e file.tar.xz 16,760 tar.xz 21,919 odt 76.46334230576213% there is no choice, how to compress the package, because it is defined in the standard, see http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part3.html#__RefHeading__752789_826425813 Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
Brian, Your formula workes perfect! Fantastic! And I learned a little more about creating formulas. Thanks again! Cheers ; skål (swedish) ; kippis (finnish) Pertti Rönnberg On 13.1.2014 3:13, Brian Barker wrote: At 17:55 12/01/2014 +0200, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Since years back I have copied my bank's digital listing of my bank account(s); first using MSOWord and later on MSOExcel. My intention is to transform these listings so I can calculate with the currency values in LibO-Calc. The bank's table has four cols: colA=date, colBcolC= text and colD is the currency as text. Each listing consists of several hundreds of events (rows). The problem is that the damn bank -- against all standards -- gives the currency values with a dot (.) as thousand separator and + or - chars (plus or minus) in the right end of each number (e.g. 987,65+, 1.234,56-, 23.456,78+) -- which is against Calc's will. By now I have managed to get LibO/Calc to accept all values less than 9.999,99: first dragged (copied) the table from MSWord = MSExcel; MSExcel-file saved in LibO/Calc as ods I'm not sure why you want to use Microsoft Word or Excel. You can open a .doc file in LibreOffice (as a text file) and copy and paste the table into a spreadsheet there. You can open an .xls file directly in LibreOffice. If your bank's original data is plain text or web material, you can import this directly into a LibreOffice spreadsheet. _Question:_ What formula/function gives the same result for the bank's currency values bigger than 9.999,99? e.g. 11.222,33+, 11.222.333,44- It's a bit messy, but this should work: =VALUE(RIGHT(Xn;1)SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(Xn;.;);+;);-;)) Cannot get the Fixed() -- when trying to eliminate the separator/dot that way -- working in this 'project' either. This is no help. If you already had correctly interpreted numbers (which you don't: that's the problem), FIXED() would convert these to text (with which you then couldn't calculate) - exactly the opposite of what you are trying to do. Once you have your real numbers, you can control their appearance by choosing appropriate cell formats, of course. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
Hi :) 1st thing is to copy the file that appears to be corrupted. 2nd is to find the User Profile and inside it the back-up folder and copy the relevant file that is hopefully in there too. Preferably put those copies on Usb-stick or email them to yourselves so that you have a copy that hasn't been worked on yet. So any advice from anyone can be safely tried without further harming the one version of the files. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 17:00, melodyfire cowens33...@gmail.com wrote: My husband has been working on a spreadsheet for over a month when last night our laptop was unplugged. The battery is busted and the only way to keep the laptop on is to have it plugged in. When he booted the laptop back up he was prompted to recover the file and the recovery failed.He is them prompted to choose an ACSII Filter option. When he chooses the option he gets a window that says Document file 'name%20name.ods' is locked for editing by Unknown User Open document read-only or open a copy of document for editing. Each option opens a word document with this for 3 pages: ice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=SoftClose oor:op=fusevaluefalse/value/prop/itemitem oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.ChartWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=Style oor:op=fusevalue0/value/prop/itemitem The file had been saved many times before, is there a way I can either save this file or open a past save? This is an ancient laptop (MacOS 10.4.11) so alot of downloads wont work for it. If I can email the file to an up to date laptop then I could save it. Can anyone help me? My husband is really upset about losing this file and is already battling depression and this does not need to be another thing on his list to be upset about. Thanks for everyone help! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-File-Help-tp4092029.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs.
2014/1/13 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Frank, frank ernest schrieb: I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs. tar -c dir | xz -4 -e file.tar.xz 16,760 tar.xz 21,919 odt 76.46334230576213% there is no choice, how to compress the package, because it is defined in the standard, see http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument- v1.2-os-part3.html#__RefHeading__752789_826425813 Agreed. It *is* possible to achieve better compression than ZIP (we knew how to do that for quite some time ;) ), but to do so we would need a new iteration of the OpenDocument standard. While it's not totally out of question, I have the feeling that increasing fragmentation just to save space on office files is not a good trade-off. Remember that ODT files are used by many pieces of software, not only LibreOffice. OpenOffice of course, but some part of google export, some less-known office suite, various custom software that output their reports as odt files... even mso got to implement it. I doubt a new version of the standard would be a good thing while it is still functionnal. -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Dnia 2014-01-13, o godz. 16:33:32 minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com napisał(a): Dear all: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffce without tray icon? Since you have revealed in other message that you are using Linux: grab script below, save it, add executable flag (chmod +x scrip.sh) and make it run at start of your desktop environment of choice. Script: --START-- #!/bin/bash if ps -C soffice.bin /dev/null 21; then exit fi sleep 90 soffice --nodefault --nologo PID=$! echo $PID /tmp/lo-quickstarter sleep 10 kill $PID END-- How it works: It takes advantage of Linux smart memory management. When you run application, Linux loads it into memory (RAM). It stays there then, just in case you decide to run it later on. But it is marked as cache, so if you want to open another application, and running low on memory, Linux will delete marked data from RAM to make up space for this new application. In high level steps: this script fires up LibreOffice in non-graphical mode (so all libraries etc. are loaded into RAM), wait few seconds and then kills process. LibreOffice will be in memory from now on. When you start it again, you will perceive that process as much faster. What it does, step by step: 1. Check whether libreoffice is running. If it is, just finish. We don't want to break anything. 2. Wait 90 seconds. Starting graphical interface usually means starting a bunch of services and many disk reads. Since LibreOffice is low priority (we want our desktop responsive as fast as possible), we somehow queue it on the end of boot process. 3. Run LibreOffice in non-graphical mode - hide splash screen and UI. 4. Save LibreOffice PID (Process ID - a number that uniquely identifies each application running on system) for later use. 5. Wait 10 seconds for LibreOffice to finish starting. We don't want to interrupt it on start, as something bad might happen (although shouldn't). 6. Stop LibreOffice, identified by PID earlier. This way we make sure that we don't stop another application by mistake. One drawback that I have noticed - if you force stop LibreOffice with documents opened, it will ask you what to do with these documents on next start. And this next start sometimes happen to be that script running. This might lead to unwanted windows popping up shortly after machine boot. I am using that script since some time and I am enjoying LibreOffice perceived boot in 4-5 seconds on my dated machine. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs.
Hi :) Ahh, ok :) That makes sense now. It is, of course, possible to put several Odt documents inside another zipped file and that should benefit from the higher compression rate. I guess the feature request would be passed on to the OASIS committee but it sounds like they have probably already weighed-up the pros-and-cons Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 18:26, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014/1/13 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Frank, frank ernest schrieb: I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs. tar -c dir | xz -4 -e file.tar.xz 16,760 tar.xz 21,919 odt 76.46334230576213% there is no choice, how to compress the package, because it is defined in the standard, see http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument- v1.2-os-part3.html#__RefHeading__752789_826425813 Agreed. It *is* possible to achieve better compression than ZIP (we knew how to do that for quite some time ;) ), but to do so we would need a new iteration of the OpenDocument standard. While it's not totally out of question, I have the feeling that increasing fragmentation just to save space on office files is not a good trade-off. Remember that ODT files are used by many pieces of software, not only LibreOffice. OpenOffice of course, but some part of google export, some less-known office suite, various custom software that output their reports as odt files... even mso got to implement it. I doubt a new version of the standard would be a good thing while it is still functionnal. -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
Hi :) Ok, so you have made a copy of the corrupted file. The User Profile is here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile well, that's the guide that describes where it is on the various different systems. I tend to try a few different approaches all at about the same time when faced with this sort of thing. We have all been there and lost data at some point or other. It's easy to be wiser with hindsight, such as saving back-ups on different machines but before hindsight we mnight not have thought about it!! It might be worth trying to remember if the file is saved anywhere else. Has the file been worked on anywhere else? Are there any other machines that might have a fairly recent version, perhaps the newer laptop got used sometime? Did the file get emailed, or saved onto usb-stick? Cd/Dvd back-ups? Do you have a network, might it be on there? Is there an older version of the same file in the same folder or archived somewhere? If your husband can manage to start again he will find that it is FAR quicker to re-do. He might even find that the entire month's work can be done fairly easily in just a couple of days. In the process of writing it originally he might have done research or thought carefully about different options and tried different things out, perhaps read-up on how to do certain things and then maybe not even gone that way in the end. All of that is swept aside on the 2nd time making it much easier and faster to re-do something. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 17:00, melodyfire cowens33...@gmail.com wrote: My husband has been working on a spreadsheet for over a month when last night our laptop was unplugged. The battery is busted and the only way to keep the laptop on is to have it plugged in. When he booted the laptop back up he was prompted to recover the file and the recovery failed.He is them prompted to choose an ACSII Filter option. When he chooses the option he gets a window that says Document file 'name%20name.ods' is locked for editing by Unknown User Open document read-only or open a copy of document for editing. Each option opens a word document with this for 3 pages: ice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=SoftClose oor:op=fusevaluefalse/value/prop/itemitem oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.ChartWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=Style oor:op=fusevalue0/value/prop/itemitem The file had been saved many times before, is there a way I can either save this file or open a past save? This is an ancient laptop (MacOS 10.4.11) so alot of downloads wont work for it. If I can email the file to an up to date laptop then I could save it. Can anyone help me? My husband is really upset about losing this file and is already battling depression and this does not need to be another thing on his list to be upset about. Thanks for everyone help! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-File-Help-tp4092029.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
If you can't find a backup. Try this. You seem to indicate that the corrupted spreadsheet is called *name name.ods*. If that is what it is called copy the corrupted file to an empty folder/directory. In that folder/directory there should now only contain the file *name name.ods* unzip this file. The contents of the folder should now contain these files and directories. * Configurations2/ *content.xml* manifest.rdf META-INF/ meta.xml mimetype name\ name.ods settings.xml styles.xml Thumbnails/ Open the file *content.xml* with firefox or equivalent and inspect the file. Hopefully you should recognise your data albeit in xml format. If you recognise the data, paste the first 10 or so lines and the last 10 or so lines into an emial and mail it here. Anonymise any data as appropriate. Then we cen see what we can do next. Alex On Monday 13 Jan 2014 18:30:50 Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ok, so you have made a copy of the corrupted file. The User Profile is here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile well, that's the guide that describes where it is on the various different systems. I tend to try a few different approaches all at about the same time when faced with this sort of thing. We have all been there and lost data at some point or other. It's easy to be wiser with hindsight, such as saving back-ups on different machines but before hindsight we mnight not have thought about it!! It might be worth trying to remember if the file is saved anywhere else. Has the file been worked on anywhere else? Are there any other machines that might have a fairly recent version, perhaps the newer laptop got used sometime? Did the file get emailed, or saved onto usb-stick? Cd/Dvd back-ups? Do you have a network, might it be on there? Is there an older version of the same file in the same folder or archived somewhere? If your husband can manage to start again he will find that it is FAR quicker to re-do. He might even find that the entire month's work can be done fairly easily in just a couple of days. In the process of writing it originally he might have done research or thought carefully about different options and tried different things out, perhaps read-up on how to do certain things and then maybe not even gone that way in the end. All of that is swept aside on the 2nd time making it much easier and faster to re-do something. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 17:00, melodyfire cowens33...@gmail.com wrote: My husband has been working on a spreadsheet for over a month when last night our laptop was unplugged. The battery is busted and the only way to keep the laptop on is to have it plugged in. When he booted the laptop back up he was prompted to recover the file and the recovery failed.He is them prompted to choose an ACSII Filter option. When he chooses the option he gets a window that says Document file 'name%20name.ods' is locked for editing by Unknown User Open document read-only or open a copy of document for editing. Each option opens a word document with this for 3 pages: ice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=SoftClose oor:op=fusevaluefalse/value/prop/itemitem oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.ChartWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=Style oor:op=fusevalue0/value/prop/itemitem The file had been saved many times before, is there a way I can either save this file or open a past save? This is an ancient laptop (MacOS 10.4.11) so alot of downloads wont work for it. If I can email the file to an up to date laptop then I could save it. Can anyone help me? My husband is really upset about losing this file and is already battling depression and this does not need to be another thing on his list to be upset about. Thanks for everyone help! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-File-Help-tp4092029.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice untitled docs constantly autosaving
On 12/01/14 20:30, Luuk wrote: On 12-01-2014 20:38, Cley Faye wrote: Additionnaly, how did you install LibreOffice on your system? Did you use some distribution-specific repositories, or got it from the Libreoffice website ? Maybe there is something opensuse-specific that cause this. If it doesn't happen with the version downloaded from the website, you'll have to report this issue to the Opensuse folks. I have an OpenSUSE 12.3 system too, here's some version info. (last patches/updates are installed) I could not reproduce the bug. luuk@opensuse:~/temp cat /etc/os-release NAME=openSUSE VERSION=12.3 (Dartmouth) VERSION_ID=12.3 PRETTY_NAME=openSUSE 12.3 (Dartmouth) (x86_64) ID=opensuse ANSI_COLOR=0;32 CPE_NAME=cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:12.3 luuk@opensuse:~/temp ooffice --version LibreOffice 3.6 luuk@opensuse:~/temp zypper info libreoffice | grep -i version Version: 3.6.3.2.4-2.4.1 Thanks for trying. I notice you are using LO 3.6.3.2. I didn't have a problem with the 3.6 series either, nor with the 4.0 series. The problem started after the updates to the 4.1. series from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.3/ John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Hi :) I know probably everyone else knows this already but i just learned that i can kill a process by using it's name without needing to find it's PID! Since it's often Firefox that misbehaves after i push it t far i find this useful pkill firefox Then when i click on Firefox icon to open it again it remembers most of the tabs i had open and lets me untick a few if i want. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 18:32, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Dnia 2014-01-13, o godz. 16:33:32 minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com napisał(a): Dear all: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffce without tray icon? Since you have revealed in other message that you are using Linux: grab script below, save it, add executable flag (chmod +x scrip.sh) and make it run at start of your desktop environment of choice. Script: --START-- #!/bin/bash if ps -C soffice.bin /dev/null 21; then exit fi sleep 90 soffice --nodefault --nologo PID=$! echo $PID /tmp/lo-quickstarter sleep 10 kill $PID END-- How it works: It takes advantage of Linux smart memory management. When you run application, Linux loads it into memory (RAM). It stays there then, just in case you decide to run it later on. But it is marked as cache, so if you want to open another application, and running low on memory, Linux will delete marked data from RAM to make up space for this new application. In high level steps: this script fires up LibreOffice in non-graphical mode (so all libraries etc. are loaded into RAM), wait few seconds and then kills process. LibreOffice will be in memory from now on. When you start it again, you will perceive that process as much faster. What it does, step by step: 1. Check whether libreoffice is running. If it is, just finish. We don't want to break anything. 2. Wait 90 seconds. Starting graphical interface usually means starting a bunch of services and many disk reads. Since LibreOffice is low priority (we want our desktop responsive as fast as possible), we somehow queue it on the end of boot process. 3. Run LibreOffice in non-graphical mode - hide splash screen and UI. 4. Save LibreOffice PID (Process ID - a number that uniquely identifies each application running on system) for later use. 5. Wait 10 seconds for LibreOffice to finish starting. We don't want to interrupt it on start, as something bad might happen (although shouldn't). 6. Stop LibreOffice, identified by PID earlier. This way we make sure that we don't stop another application by mistake. One drawback that I have noticed - if you force stop LibreOffice with documents opened, it will ask you what to do with these documents on next start. And this next start sometimes happen to be that script running. This might lead to unwanted windows popping up shortly after machine boot. I am using that script since some time and I am enjoying LibreOffice perceived boot in 4-5 seconds on my dated machine. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice untitled docs constantly autosaving
On 12/01/14 19:38, Cley Faye wrote: Additionnaly, how did you install LibreOffice on your system? Did you use some distribution-specific repositories, or got it from the Libreoffice website ? Maybe there is something opensuse-specific that cause this. If it doesn't happen with the version downloaded from the website, you'll have to report this issue to the Opensuse folks. I've now done further tests with the distributions I have easy access to. First of all, a correction. When I originally reported this, I thought it was restricted to opensuse. I have since found the same problem arises on Kubuntu and Xubuntu with the 4.1 series of Libreoffice, as I have documented in the bug report on: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46635 In the case of both the ubuntu-based distributions and opensuse KDE and Gnome, Libreoffice was installed from the distribution repositories (as recommended on the Libreoffice web site). In all these cases, ticking Tools-Option-Load/Save-General-Automatically save the document too results in the constant saving. However, in Kubuntu and Opensuse 12.3 - Gnome, I deinstalled the repository provided version and installed the versions from the Libreoffice website to see if there was any difference. Libreoffice was run with completely new profiles, and on first run worked fine, not showing any constant saving. However, after logging out and logging in and rerunning the test, the same constant saving occurred on every subsequent occasion, so it doesn't seem to be repository version specific. John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
At 11:15 13/01/2014 -0600, Larry Evans wrote: I don't see Brian's reply to you (maybe he emailed you privately). No, it was sent to the list. See http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg36082.html . Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Dnia 2014-01-13, o godz. 19:16:14 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com napisał(a): I know probably everyone else knows this already but i just learned that i can kill a process by using it's name without needing to find it's PID! Yeah, I know that. But this is not an option here. pkill will, by default, search for processes of every user. Imagine that there are two users on the system, and one of them has LibreOffice already running. If you do pkill soffice.bin, it might hit another user and interrupt his work (unlikely, as you probably won't have sufficient permissions). Or imagine that you have libreoffice running in background in headless mode, used to convert documents in large batches. If you issue pkill, you will interrupt it's work. In both these cases you won't need quickstarter/preloader script, as LO will already be in memory (so there is no benefit in preloading it). But still, killing process by name is not an option here. We need to stop one particular instance of LO that we have started only to put it in memory. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a LibO/Calc problem (SOLVED)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:10:03 +0200 Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi wrote: Paul's answer is interesting from another point of view also -- he changes the decimal sign from a comma to a period and replaces the periods replaced by commas to get the correct thousand separator. Well, you might be able to just change your locale settings to allow the different format, but I assumed you didn't want to do that. As I understand it, that can only be changed system-wide, not per document. Another page Decimal and Thousand Separators says: Great Britain and the United States are two of the few places in the world that use a period to indicate the decimal place. It's also pretty common in computer circles (programming, data interchange formats, etc) to use a period for a decimal separator. Paul -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs
Acctually I thought that it was kinda obvious and I was thinking that you'd want to fix it before your ODT standard was widly adopted. It would be easier to change the code of 10 programs then 1000 once you finally retire the standard. You could also develop a split in the standard and call the files *.ODT2. Personally I was shocked how bad the compression was. I expected maybe I'd get 5% or (if I was really lucky) 15% better compression, but 25%! That's (as someone already pointed out) HUGE! I am advising to fix the spec before the cat gets out of the bag. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs
Frank, Wrong venue... take the suggestion to the standards group for ODF https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office The LibreOffice project is simply an implementer and has greater issues with ODF standards. Kind regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: frank ernest [mailto:do...@mail.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs Acctually I thought that it was kinda obvious and I was thinking that you'd want to fix it before your ODT standard was widly adopted. It would be easier to change the code of 10 programs then 1000 once you finally retire the standard. You could also develop a split in the standard and call the files *.ODT2. Personally I was shocked how bad the compression was. I expected maybe I'd get 5% or (if I was really lucky) 15% better compression, but 25%! That's (as someone already pointed out) HUGE! I am advising to fix the spec before the cat gets out of the bag. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs
2014/1/13 frank ernest do...@mail.com Acctually I thought that it was kinda obvious and I was thinking that you'd want to fix it before your ODT standard was widly adopted. It would be easier to change the code of 10 programs then 1000 once you finally retire the standard. You could also develop a split in the standard and call the files *.ODT2. Personally I was shocked how bad the compression was. I expected maybe I'd get 5% or (if I was really lucky) 15% better compression, but 25%! That's (as someone already pointed out) HUGE! I am advising to fix the spec before the cat gets out of the bag. Huu, you might have missed the last five years where odt is already widely used. Also, you should warn microsoft before their docx stuff get in the wild too, as they also use the zip file format. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Dear Mirosław Zalewski: Your solution is really a very good idea!!! Thank you!!! Best Regards, Minhsien0330 2014/1/14 Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl Dnia 2014-01-13, o godz. 16:33:32 minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com napisał(a): Dear all: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffce without tray icon? Since you have revealed in other message that you are using Linux: grab script below, save it, add executable flag (chmod +x scrip.sh) and make it run at start of your desktop environment of choice. Script: --START-- #!/bin/bash if ps -C soffice.bin /dev/null 21; then exit fi sleep 90 soffice --nodefault --nologo PID=$! echo $PID /tmp/lo-quickstarter sleep 10 kill $PID END-- How it works: It takes advantage of Linux smart memory management. When you run application, Linux loads it into memory (RAM). It stays there then, just in case you decide to run it later on. But it is marked as cache, so if you want to open another application, and running low on memory, Linux will delete marked data from RAM to make up space for this new application. In high level steps: this script fires up LibreOffice in non-graphical mode (so all libraries etc. are loaded into RAM), wait few seconds and then kills process. LibreOffice will be in memory from now on. When you start it again, you will perceive that process as much faster. What it does, step by step: 1. Check whether libreoffice is running. If it is, just finish. We don't want to break anything. 2. Wait 90 seconds. Starting graphical interface usually means starting a bunch of services and many disk reads. Since LibreOffice is low priority (we want our desktop responsive as fast as possible), we somehow queue it on the end of boot process. 3. Run LibreOffice in non-graphical mode - hide splash screen and UI. 4. Save LibreOffice PID (Process ID - a number that uniquely identifies each application running on system) for later use. 5. Wait 10 seconds for LibreOffice to finish starting. We don't want to interrupt it on start, as something bad might happen (although shouldn't). 6. Stop LibreOffice, identified by PID earlier. This way we make sure that we don't stop another application by mistake. One drawback that I have noticed - if you force stop LibreOffice with documents opened, it will ask you what to do with these documents on next start. And this next start sometimes happen to be that script running. This might lead to unwanted windows popping up shortly after machine boot. I am using that script since some time and I am enjoying LibreOffice perceived boot in 4-5 seconds on my dated machine. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Similar Problem?
I am seeing something and I don't know if it is a problem or something I have to live with. In the ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup directory, I have 3,000+ files with 0 bytes. I assume that this means the files are empty. There are other files there which are not empty. The non-empty ones appear to be backups of files I have worked on. The empty files all appear to be attempts to backup a Base database that I have created using the built in hsql engine. The file is stored on my computer. The time stamps on the files are unusual. There are 6 files with a time stamp of 15:58, 6 with 15:59, 6 with 16:00 and the pattern continues for the other 3,500 empty files. Does any one else have the same situation? I have the save/backup time in the general options set to 15 minutes. I have a listing of all of the files if anyone wants to see it. Thank you, Vince Radice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] getting larger set of colors that the standard that comes with LO -corrected URL
I am working on increasing the official installed color list/chart/table with a lot of new ones. In this folder, there are two standard.soc files, but I am working on an even larger one. https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors# My current working standard.soc file is about 2224 colors in size. I am adding color tables I have found, plus other named colors. Right now I have added 2 tables with 77 colors each. I have a few more of these tables to go. As for the named colors, I found : brass, bronze, copper, gold, wood, and others with those colors in their names [plus others as well]. It takes some time to create the lines of code for each color, times 70+, times 2 or more, then adding them to the file and correcting mistakes. But I will upload what I have soon. On 01/12/2014 10:55 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Thanks som I redid the arrangement of some of the colors in the original large color file and put that in the ownCloud folder. Plus I added a few more colors I found. I found Hex codes for colors like Silver, Copper, Wood, etc.. So I added it to the second one. I found a set of Hex codes that do not have any named to them, but they explore the range of colors, from light to dark, starting with one color/code. This is a sample of those color tables. http://libreoffice-na.us/color-coder-tables.png I may work on creating a file with those color in it. Although there are not names for them, I would end up using their Hex codes for the names, unless there is no need for naming the colors in the list. If you look at the color table in Writer, via. its table properties for the background of a cell, you can see it another way. http://libreoffice-na.us/writer-color-table.png This is a screen clip of Writer and one of my calendars that I made from a .doc template I found. The bottom two rows, and part of the row above that, are the Branding Colors, so if you want to create something with the LO Branded Colors you do not have to look any farther. Yes, above those colors there are colors like Blue 8 or Turquoise 2, but there is no indication if any of those colors are the Branded Colors or not. I made sure that the colors had names like LO green 4 or LO yellow 1 so you know that they are the colors listed in the Branding information page. With over 2,000 colors in the list, the users should be able to find something they would like to use. When I have the time to make a new one, with the colors in the first image's file, then there will be a lot more choices. On 01/11/2014 11:33 PM, som wrote: On Saturday, 11 January 2014 10:07 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors# this worked. thanks for the file. here (https://db.tt/pLDjVXJW) is a screenshot of libreoffice after replacing the original with this standard.soc on a Xubuntu 13.10. regards, som -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] getting larger set of colors that the standard that comes with LO -corrected URL
Did I send you a copyof the colour soc I use? (The one that is 2.5 MB in size, not the one that is 2.x GB in size. jonathon -- Sent from the eating establishment at the Far side of the Universe, at the begining of Time, and at the end of Space. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
Hi :) After you have created copies of the files can you rename the file ending of one from .ods to .zip and then double-click on that? It should open as though it is a compressed file so an archive manager should open it. If it works it wont look anything like the file! You should see various .xml documents and about 3 folders. One of the xml files should be called something like contents.xml. I think this is the file that should contain most of the data. However when you open it then it should look a LOT like the file you described so maybe there is something weird going on. Any chance of reinstalling LibreOffice? If LibreOffice itself got knocked out then that might explain the weird result. Of course if it was that then the newer laptop should just open the file with no problem (hence why i tend to try several different approaches all at the same time) Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 18:30, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) Ok, so you have made a copy of the corrupted file. The User Profile is here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile well, that's the guide that describes where it is on the various different systems. I tend to try a few different approaches all at about the same time when faced with this sort of thing. We have all been there and lost data at some point or other. It's easy to be wiser with hindsight, such as saving back-ups on different machines but before hindsight we mnight not have thought about it!! It might be worth trying to remember if the file is saved anywhere else. Has the file been worked on anywhere else? Are there any other machines that might have a fairly recent version, perhaps the newer laptop got used sometime? Did the file get emailed, or saved onto usb-stick? Cd/Dvd back-ups? Do you have a network, might it be on there? Is there an older version of the same file in the same folder or archived somewhere? If your husband can manage to start again he will find that it is FAR quicker to re-do. He might even find that the entire month's work can be done fairly easily in just a couple of days. In the process of writing it originally he might have done research or thought carefully about different options and tried different things out, perhaps read-up on how to do certain things and then maybe not even gone that way in the end. All of that is swept aside on the 2nd time making it much easier and faster to re-do something. Regards from Tom :) On 13 January 2014 17:00, melodyfire cowens33...@gmail.com wrote: My husband has been working on a spreadsheet for over a month when last night our laptop was unplugged. The battery is busted and the only way to keep the laptop on is to have it plugged in. When he booted the laptop back up he was prompted to recover the file and the recovery failed.He is them prompted to choose an ACSII Filter option. When he chooses the option he gets a window that says Document file 'name%20name.ods' is locked for editing by Unknown User Open document read-only or open a copy of document for editing. Each option opens a word document with this for 3 pages: ice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=SoftClose oor:op=fusevaluefalse/value/prop/itemitem oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.ChartWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/drawbar']prop oor:name=Style oor:op=fusevalue0/value/prop/itemitem The file had been saved many times before, is there a way I can either save this file or open a past save? This is an ancient laptop (MacOS 10.4.11) so alot of downloads wont work for it. If I can email the file to an up to date laptop then I could save it. Can anyone help me? My husband is really upset about losing this file and is already battling depression and this does not need to be another thing on his list to be upset about. Thanks for everyone help! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-File-Help-tp4092029.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Quick start without tray icon?
Dear Mirosław Zalewski: I found an other convenient way to preload Libreoffice without tray icon, just put the following command line in ~/.xinitrc: soffice --nodefault --nologo Then, Libreoffice will be preloaded without tray icon in the background after I get into X. Thanks for your idea~ Best Regards, Minhsien0330 2014/1/14 minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com Dear Mirosław Zalewski: Your solution is really a very good idea!!! Thank you!!! Best Regards, Minhsien0330 2014/1/14 Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl Dnia 2014-01-13, o godz. 16:33:32 minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com napisał(a): Dear all: When we checked the option Enable systray Quickstarter, we preload libreoffice and have a Libreoffice logo icon on system tray. But there are too many icons on my tray, can I preload Libreoffce without tray icon? Since you have revealed in other message that you are using Linux: grab script below, save it, add executable flag (chmod +x scrip.sh) and make it run at start of your desktop environment of choice. Script: --START-- #!/bin/bash if ps -C soffice.bin /dev/null 21; then exit fi sleep 90 soffice --nodefault --nologo PID=$! echo $PID /tmp/lo-quickstarter sleep 10 kill $PID END-- How it works: It takes advantage of Linux smart memory management. When you run application, Linux loads it into memory (RAM). It stays there then, just in case you decide to run it later on. But it is marked as cache, so if you want to open another application, and running low on memory, Linux will delete marked data from RAM to make up space for this new application. In high level steps: this script fires up LibreOffice in non-graphical mode (so all libraries etc. are loaded into RAM), wait few seconds and then kills process. LibreOffice will be in memory from now on. When you start it again, you will perceive that process as much faster. What it does, step by step: 1. Check whether libreoffice is running. If it is, just finish. We don't want to break anything. 2. Wait 90 seconds. Starting graphical interface usually means starting a bunch of services and many disk reads. Since LibreOffice is low priority (we want our desktop responsive as fast as possible), we somehow queue it on the end of boot process. 3. Run LibreOffice in non-graphical mode - hide splash screen and UI. 4. Save LibreOffice PID (Process ID - a number that uniquely identifies each application running on system) for later use. 5. Wait 10 seconds for LibreOffice to finish starting. We don't want to interrupt it on start, as something bad might happen (although shouldn't). 6. Stop LibreOffice, identified by PID earlier. This way we make sure that we don't stop another application by mistake. One drawback that I have noticed - if you force stop LibreOffice with documents opened, it will ask you what to do with these documents on next start. And this next start sometimes happen to be that script running. This might lead to unwanted windows popping up shortly after machine boot. I am using that script since some time and I am enjoying LibreOffice perceived boot in 4-5 seconds on my dated machine. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt File! Help!!!
13 Oca 2014 19:17 tarihinde melodyfire cowens33...@gmail.com yazdı: Hi, File corruption may occur in all platforms due to similar reasons. Dont be upset. Thanks to odf format the file can be examined. Probably some xml errors in styles.xml. If you have Ubuntu, install Emacs. It comes with great xml tools to mark the errors. I can help you too but i will be available only after Wednesday. Other friends will help soon i hope. Best regards, Zeki -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
