[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 2015-01-19, 7:57 PM Spencer Graves wrote: I’m confused. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile” tells me to look for Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths. I don’t see “Options” under Tools. On Macs it is LibreOffice/Preferences/LibreOffice/Paths -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Tom Davies wrote: If using HsqlDb then it would be MUCH better to use their proper full program downloaded from their site as an external back-end. Tom, OK. Guess I need to download, build, and install a 3rd rdbms. That's do-able. Lots of room on this partition. I assume that once the .db file (or whatever extension it uses) is in the appropriate subdirectory I need only tell Base to connect to it and hope that it works. Err, if you do go the Python route then please ignore my earlier post! I was optimistically assuming that it would be less coding and therefore easier!!? I hadn't thought about APIs and stuff. Sorry about that :( Regards from Tom :) Long ago I wrote a driver in C for a spatial analysis application; it was quite different from developing an end-user application. I much prefer to avoid the pain of writing another driver and in Python. Stay tuned ... updates at 11, Rich -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi :) These are unix commands so you find them much the same in GnuLinux such as Ubuntu, openSuSE, RedHat, Mageia as well as in BSDs such as FreeBSD, Mac and others. cd = Change Directory ls = LiSt = roughly the same as dir it gives a list of what is in the folder/directory you are in I think the cd command is a little wrong but ended up doing the right thing. The aim was to get into the home folder and you started from there anyway so when the instruction didn't give a folder to change into you still ended up in the home folder. I think the instruction was meant to be cd ~ or cd /home/user-name but it doesn't matter. The command; mkdir -p libreoffice/builds should MaKe a new directory/folder. Actually it should create 2 new folders. It should create a folder called libreoffice and inside that create a sub-folder called builds. There are a lot of guides to help with unix commands but GnuLinux tends to have a wider range of commands and some of them are slightly different from the BSD ones so they just wont work in Mac. I doubt they would cause harm but it's probably worth being cautious. I think you can get a quick-help / cheat-sheet to get an idea of what a command does by typing --help after the command or -h. So now you know the 3 commands above you can try; cd --help cd -h ls --help ls -h Errr, i'd be cautious about the mkdir command in case it ends up creating a folder called --help although that probably would not be hugely bad anyway. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 17:05, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. See, “https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X”, referenced in an earlier email from Alex in this thread: This describes “New Method” and “Old Method”. “Old Method” says, Up to and including the 3.3.x series, the way to separate configurations on the Mac simply involved renaming your existing installation user configuration folder to the same name as the name of the LibreOffice application.” That doesn’t mean it ever worked, but that seems to be what is described under “Old Method” ;-) I’m still having other problems parsing the “New Method”: A first step says to “cd”, then run “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds in a terminal. Is this correct? When I “cd” then “ls”, I get the following: ApplicationsDocuments Library Music Public Desktop Downloads Movies Pictures I don’t see “libreoffice”. Or is “libreoffice” in “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds” simply a shorthand for the local LibeOffice installation directory? If that’s true, then how do I find the local LibreOffice installation directory? Thanks so much for all your help. Sorry for being so dense. Best Wishes, Spencer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) Ahh, mostly the Ubuntu's at work are 14.04. So i might have a try at a LiveUsb or multi-boot with an earlier version alongside the existing set-ups or something. Thanks Tim ! :) Errr, i think the drivers and apps and such are still called CUPS but i think the forums and websites retired didn't they? Is there somewhere such as LinuxPrinting.Org? I might have to have more of a look tomorrow or sometime. Thanks so far and regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 13:37, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use for Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS. SO, I install in manually via the standard package manager for the distro. My default printer is the CUPS PDF system. That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS? I have some Canon printers no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out. Needed dependencies not longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
Hi :) If using HsqlDb then it would be MUCH better to use their proper full program downloaded from their site as an external back-end. The in-built back-end has serious flaws which have apparently resulted in data-loss for quite a few people so it needs frequent back-ups. As an external back-end it doesn't have all the tweaks and things that Sun added (and/or took away (such as the ability to update the program)) so it works brilliantly apparently. Err, if you do go the Python route then please ignore my earlier post! I was optimistically assuming that it would be less coding and therefore easier!!? I hadn't thought about APIs and stuff. Sorry about that :( Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 17:31, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Alexander Thurgood wrote: The hsqldb 1.8 documentation ? LO uses the hsqldb 1.8 as the embedded db engine in LO by default, unless you meant you are setting up a split database using an external hsqldb.jar version 2 ? Alex, The manual appears to be the most current, but it refers to backward compatibility with versions 1.8 and 2.0 with the syntax for an autoincrementing primary key. I could not care less which hsqldb is used as long as LO-4.3.5 Base will work with it. I'm translating the SQLite schema .sql to the HSQLDB DDL syntax. I'll check syntax with the hsqldb mail list and ask them how to generate the file that Base will recognize using the jdbc interface. Thanks, Rich -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Alexander Thurgood wrote: The hsqldb 1.8 documentation ? LO uses the hsqldb 1.8 as the embedded db engine in LO by default, unless you meant you are setting up a split database using an external hsqldb.jar version 2 ? Alex, The manual appears to be the most current, but it refers to backward compatibility with versions 1.8 and 2.0 with the syntax for an autoincrementing primary key. I could not care less which hsqldb is used as long as LO-4.3.5 Base will work with it. I'm translating the SQLite schema .sql to the HSQLDB DDL syntax. I'll check syntax with the hsqldb mail list and ask them how to generate the file that Base will recognize using the jdbc interface. Thanks, Rich -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Le 21/01/2015 16:54, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. No, you had to rename the user profile /Library/Application Support/Foo accordingly before restarting LO - this was the advice we were giving out to users on our wiki. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Tom Davies wrote: If the problem is the lack of a connector then writing a connector in Python so that you can use Base might be more useful than developing your own database program to use the sqlite backend - especially if you OpenSource the connector and upload it to the Extensions website. It'd mean more people able to keep it updated and less work setting it up, hopefully! Tom et al., There's actually a better, easier, quicker solution. I downloaded the hsqldb user guide (not the Base Handbook) and learned that I can write the schema and read it into a database then set up Base to use it. The guide includes the supported DDL syntax so I can convert the primary/foreign keys and column/table constraints as needed. Should have looked first for this option. Rich -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
Le 21/01/2015 16:54, Rich Shepard a écrit : There's actually a better, easier, quicker solution. I downloaded the hsqldb user guide (not the Base Handbook) and learned that I can write the schema and read it into a database then set up Base to use it. The guide includes the supported DDL syntax so I can convert the primary/foreign keys and column/table constraints as needed. The hsqldb 1.8 documentation ? LO uses the hsqldb 1.8 as the embedded db engine in LO by default, unless you meant you are setting up a split database using an external hsqldb.jar version 2 ? Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. See, “https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X”, referenced in an earlier email from Alex in this thread: This describes “New Method” and “Old Method”. “Old Method” says, Up to and including the 3.3.x series, the way to separate configurations on the Mac simply involved renaming your existing installation user configuration folder to the same name as the name of the LibreOffice application.” That doesn’t mean it ever worked, but that seems to be what is described under “Old Method” ;-) I’m still having other problems parsing the “New Method”: A first step says to “cd”, then run “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds in a terminal. Is this correct? When I “cd” then “ls”, I get the following: ApplicationsDocuments Library Music Public Desktop Downloads Movies Pictures I don’t see “libreoffice”. Or is “libreoffice” in “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds” simply a shorthand for the local LibeOffice installation directory? If that’s true, then how do I find the local LibreOffice installation directory? Thanks so much for all your help. Sorry for being so dense. Best Wishes, Spencer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Viewer - bèta - voor Android !
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi :) I think the intention is to unpack and build the program in the new folder and then install or move the program to the place it should be. Maybe. However I haven't read through the rest of the instructions. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 20:19, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: Hi, Tom: On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) These are unix commands so you find them much the same in GnuLinux such as Ubuntu, openSuSE, RedHat, Mageia as well as in BSDs such as FreeBSD, Mac and others. cd = Change Directory ls = LiSt = roughly the same as dir it gives a list of what is in the folder/directory you are in I think the cd command is a little wrong but ended up doing the right thing. The aim was to get into the home folder and you started from there anyway so when the instruction didn't give a folder to change into you still ended up in the home folder. I think the instruction was meant to be cd ~ or cd /home/user-name Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear: Before I posted that comment, I tested “cd” from different directories and found it to be equivalent to “cd ~” on OS X 10.10.1. I just checked and found that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS produced the same result. but it doesn't matter. The command; mkdir -p libreoffice/builds should MaKe a new directory/folder. Actually it should create 2 new folders. It should create a folder called libreoffice and inside that create a sub-folder called builds”. Yes, except that I’m not sure if that was intended to be taken literally: LibreOffices Preferences: LibreOffice: Paths says the default path for Documents under OS X is “~/Documents” and for everything else is subdirectories of “~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4/user”. With LO 4.3.4.1 under Windows 7, it’s essentially the same except that everything else is in subdirectories of “~\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\user”. This suggests to me that I should cd to the “LibreOffice” directory under “~/Library/Application Support on my Mac (or “~\AppData\Roaming” under Windows 7) and create rename “4” to something like “4352”, then open LO4352 and change all those paths from “4” to “4352” to match. Does this make sense? I haven’t tried it yet, but I plan to if I don’t hear something to the contrary first. Thanks again, Spencer There are a lot of guides to help with unix commands but GnuLinux tends to have a wider range of commands and some of them are slightly different from the BSD ones so they just wont work in Mac. I doubt they would cause harm but it's probably worth being cautious. I think you can get a quick-help / cheat-sheet to get an idea of what a command does by typing --help after the command or -h. So now you know the 3 commands above you can try; cd --help cd -h ls --help ls -h Errr, i'd be cautious about the mkdir command in case it ends up creating a folder called --help although that probably would not be hugely bad anyway. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 17:05, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. See, “https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X”, referenced in an earlier email from Alex in this thread: This describes “New Method” and “Old Method”. “Old Method” says, Up to and including the 3.3.x series, the way to separate configurations on the Mac simply involved renaming your existing installation user configuration folder to the same name as the name of the LibreOffice application.” That doesn’t mean it ever worked, but that seems to be what is described under “Old Method” ;-) I’m still having other problems parsing the “New Method”: A first step says to “cd”, then run “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds in a terminal. Is this correct? When I “cd” then “ls”, I get the following: ApplicationsDocuments Library Music Public Desktop Downloads Movies Pictures I don’t see “libreoffice”. Or is “libreoffice” in “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds” simply a shorthand for
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi, Tom: Thanks again for the reply. I did “cd ~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice”, then mv 4 4352”. That worked. However, I was unable to edit any of the paths in LibreOffice (LO4352) to anything that made sense to me, e.g., like to subfolders of “~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4352/user”. In LibreOffice: Preferences: LibreOffice: Paths, I can click on, e.g., AutoCorrect, than Edit. This shows a path list of “/Users/sbgraves/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4/autocorr”. I’d like to change “4” to “4352”. I can’t find a way to do that. Clicking on it doesn’t help. I can click on of the paths, then click “Add”. This opens in different places for different paths. I’m new to Mac OS X, and I’ve so far failed to understand how to navigate to where I want with the alternatives I’m given. I successfully did mkdir -p libreoffice/builds”, as described in “https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X;. Then “cd ~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice” and cp -r 4352 ~/libreoffice/builds/“ created copies of all the subdirectories of the former “4” subdirectory within the new ~/libreoffice/builds/“. And I was able to redirect some but not all of the paths to the new subdirectories of 4352. With this, I was able to install LO 4.3.4.1 and run it. It seemed to work (though “quit unexpectedly” with Tools - Solver; however, that’s a separate issue). Thanks again, Spencer On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I think the intention is to unpack and build the program in the new folder and then install or move the program to the place it should be. Maybe. However I haven't read through the rest of the instructions. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 20:19, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: Hi, Tom: On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) These are unix commands so you find them much the same in GnuLinux such as Ubuntu, openSuSE, RedHat, Mageia as well as in BSDs such as FreeBSD, Mac and others. cd = Change Directory ls = LiSt = roughly the same as dir it gives a list of what is in the folder/directory you are in I think the cd command is a little wrong but ended up doing the right thing. The aim was to get into the home folder and you started from there anyway so when the instruction didn't give a folder to change into you still ended up in the home folder. I think the instruction was meant to be cd ~ or cd /home/user-name Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear: Before I posted that comment, I tested “cd” from different directories and found it to be equivalent to “cd ~” on OS X 10.10.1. I just checked and found that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS produced the same result. but it doesn't matter. The command; mkdir -p libreoffice/builds should MaKe a new directory/folder. Actually it should create 2 new folders. It should create a folder called libreoffice and inside that create a sub-folder called builds”. Yes, except that I’m not sure if that was intended to be taken literally: LibreOffices Preferences: LibreOffice: Paths says the default path for Documents under OS X is “~/Documents” and for everything else is subdirectories of “~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4/user”. With LO 4.3.4.1 under Windows 7, it’s essentially the same except that everything else is in subdirectories of “~\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\user”. This suggests to me that I should cd to the “LibreOffice” directory under “~/Library/Application Support on my Mac (or “~\AppData\Roaming” under Windows 7) and create rename “4” to something like “4352”, then open LO4352 and change all those paths from “4” to “4352” to match. Does this make sense? I haven’t tried it yet, but I plan to if I don’t hear something to the contrary first. Thanks again, Spencer There are a lot of guides to help with unix commands but GnuLinux tends to have a wider range of commands and some of them are slightly different from the BSD ones so they just wont work in Mac. I doubt they would cause harm but it's probably worth being cautious. I think you can get a quick-help / cheat-sheet to get an idea of what a command does by typing --help after the command or -h. So now you know the 3 commands above you can try; cd --help cd -h ls --help ls -h Errr, i'd be cautious about the mkdir command in case it ends up creating a folder called --help although that probably would not be hugely bad anyway. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 17:05, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) Android
Hi :) Fantastic News!! Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 20:00, From: Italo Vignoli it...@documentfoundation.org To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:06:40 +0100 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) now available for Android Berlin, January 21, 2015 - The Document Foundation (TDF) is happy to see the LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) for Android released in the Google Play Store, allowing mobile users to access Open Document Format (ODF) files from devices such as tablets and smartphones. The application, created by Collabora, is available from the following link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.collabora.libreoffice The first release of LibreOffice Viewer handles text documents and basic presentations. Support for spreadsheets have been included in an early form, while support for more complex presentations is planned for a future release. Users are invited to download and test the application, although care is advised for production environments. Support for Android is the result of cooperation between organizations as well as individual contributors, said Michael Meeks, VP of Productivity at Collabora, LibreOffice's open ecosystem has again proved its ability to bring diverse groups together to produce great software without restrictions”. The mobile app fulfils the wishes of many users who access ODF files on the go, and is also able to read proprietary document formats from other suites including Microsoft Office. “This release is the first of a new series of mobile applications” said Björn Michaelsen, a Director of The Document Foundation. “Individuals, companies and organizations are encouraged to participate in the open development process by joining the LibreOffice community. The LibreOffice Viewer (Beta) has been created by Collabora with the support of SMOOSE. It is built on foundational work by the LibreOffice community, SUSE, and the Mozilla Corporation, with additional development by Jacobo Pérez of Igalia, and Andrzej Hunt and Ian Billet as part of Google Summer of Code. Short link to blog post: http://tdf.io/androidviewer -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Viewer - bèta - voor Android !
Hi :) Fantastic news indeed! :))) Many thanks and congrats to all who worked on this in any way at all! Superb! Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 20:28, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NL/Aankondigingen#LibreOffice_Viewer_.28B.C3.A8ta.29_is_nu_beschikbaar_voor_Android In de app store zoeken naar LibreOffice Viewer of volg deze link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.collabora.libreoffice Plezier met testen en reviewen :) Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Just inherited a 2007 iMac and loaded Yosemite (OS X 10.10.1) First thing I loaded LO 4.4.0.2, and then 4.3.6.2 and the current (2015-01-21) 4.5.0 master. Steps couldn't be simpler. In fact parallel install is done almost the same as with the Windows .msi packages Put which ever of the installs into /Applications just like any package install. Drag and drop there once the .dmg is downloaded and mounted. Launch by double clicking the folder in /Applications. For the additional installs, they could go into /Applications as well just with different names. But they can go anywhere. For example onto user's Desktop, Documents, Downloads etc... just mount the downloaded .dmg package and drag the LibreOffice or LibreOfficeDev .app directory object to where you want it to reside. It does not need to go into /Applications. Then use Spotlight to find the bootstraprc file and edit it in TextEdit. Just as with Windows or Linux builds, edit the UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/LibreOffice/4 to be UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/../Data/settings The $ORIGIN variable is parsed internally by LibreOffice and then creates the entire user profile within the app package, in the example Data/settings but the directory names for the user profile can actually be anything you like. They are fully structured profiles and are portable. When ready to launch the build, open the .app folder with Finder and locate the soffice executable and Control Open it. You can create an app launcher for it if you don't want to dig down into the folder every time. Easy as pie... I had all three flavors running simultaneously and could do side-by-side comparisons of the UI. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-2-versions-of-LO-on-Mac-OS-X-10-10-1-Yosemite-tp4136563p4136999.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi, Tom: On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) These are unix commands so you find them much the same in GnuLinux such as Ubuntu, openSuSE, RedHat, Mageia as well as in BSDs such as FreeBSD, Mac and others. cd = Change Directory ls = LiSt = roughly the same as dir it gives a list of what is in the folder/directory you are in I think the cd command is a little wrong but ended up doing the right thing. The aim was to get into the home folder and you started from there anyway so when the instruction didn't give a folder to change into you still ended up in the home folder. I think the instruction was meant to be cd ~ or cd /home/user-name Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I wasn’t clear: Before I posted that comment, I tested “cd” from different directories and found it to be equivalent to “cd ~” on OS X 10.10.1. I just checked and found that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS produced the same result. but it doesn't matter. The command; mkdir -p libreoffice/builds should MaKe a new directory/folder. Actually it should create 2 new folders. It should create a folder called libreoffice and inside that create a sub-folder called builds”. Yes, except that I’m not sure if that was intended to be taken literally: LibreOffices Preferences: LibreOffice: Paths says the default path for Documents under OS X is “~/Documents” and for everything else is subdirectories of “~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4/user”. With LO 4.3.4.1 under Windows 7, it’s essentially the same except that everything else is in subdirectories of “~\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\user”. This suggests to me that I should cd to the “LibreOffice” directory under “~/Library/Application Support on my Mac (or “~\AppData\Roaming” under Windows 7) and create rename “4” to something like “4352”, then open LO4352 and change all those paths from “4” to “4352” to match. Does this make sense? I haven’t tried it yet, but I plan to if I don’t hear something to the contrary first. Thanks again, Spencer There are a lot of guides to help with unix commands but GnuLinux tends to have a wider range of commands and some of them are slightly different from the BSD ones so they just wont work in Mac. I doubt they would cause harm but it's probably worth being cautious. I think you can get a quick-help / cheat-sheet to get an idea of what a command does by typing --help after the command or -h. So now you know the 3 commands above you can try; cd --help cd -h ls --help ls -h Errr, i'd be cautious about the mkdir command in case it ends up creating a folder called --help although that probably would not be hugely bad anyway. Regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 17:05, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. See, “https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X”, referenced in an earlier email from Alex in this thread: This describes “New Method” and “Old Method”. “Old Method” says, Up to and including the 3.3.x series, the way to separate configurations on the Mac simply involved renaming your existing installation user configuration folder to the same name as the name of the LibreOffice application.” That doesn’t mean it ever worked, but that seems to be what is described under “Old Method” ;-) I’m still having other problems parsing the “New Method”: A first step says to “cd”, then run “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds in a terminal. Is this correct? When I “cd” then “ls”, I get the following: ApplicationsDocuments Library Music Public Desktop Downloads Movies Pictures I don’t see “libreoffice”. Or is “libreoffice” in “mkdir -p libreoffice/builds” simply a shorthand for the local LibeOffice installation directory? If that’s true, then how do I find the local LibreOffice installation directory? Thanks so much for all your help. Sorry for being so dense. Best Wishes, Spencer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/19/2015 10:48 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is solely determined by the value of the UserInstallation= line in LibreOffice.app/Contents/Resource/bootstraprc (formerly LibreOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/boostraprc; where $SYSUSERCONFIG denotes the ~/Library/Application Support/ directory). It is completely oblivious to any renaming of the LibreOffice.app. A way to have multiple versions of LO installed independently is to hard-code different UserInstallation= values into the bootstraprcs of at least all but one installations. (These values need to be file URLs, so either keep them starting with $SYSUSERCONFIG, which expands to a file URL, or use file:///... notation.) These versions can then even be run concurrently. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Hi Stephan, If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi :) If you rename the User Profile then you can always rename it back later. Renaming just hides it from the program/suite so LibreOffice creates a fresh new one profile populated with the default settings, configs and all the rest. Deleting the User Profile would also work but then if it goes wrong or if you want to return to old the settingsconfigs or recover stuff from your templates, library gallery or anything else you added to LibreOffice then it would be tricky. So, renaming is best. Yes, Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths is only for Windows and Linux, and maybe Bsd. Mac is a bit different. Regards from Tom :) On 20 January 2015 at 01:57, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: Hi, Alex: Thanks for this. (see inline) On Jan 19, 2015, at 1:48 AM, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 19/01/2015 02:57, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Create a sub-folder in your Applications folder and install the second version of LibreOffice in the sub-folder. If you do that, you will use the existing user configuration profile. In order to exclude user configuration profile effects, you can try the following : - download the version of LibreOffice you want to try out ; - rename your currently installed LibreOffice app bundle to something else, e.g. LO4352 ; Done. It works (after reboot). - now change your user profile configuration folder to the same name as the just changed app bundle ; I’m confused. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile” tells me to look for Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths. I don’t see “Options” under Tools. It also tells me that for Mac OS X, I should look for /Users/user name/Library/Application Support/libreoffice/4/user (LibreOffice 4)”. I found “user” under /Users/user name/Library/Application Support/libreoffice/4”. However, I’m reluctant to change this. Thanks, Spencer - next, install the newly downloaded version you want to install - drag and drop to /Applications or any other folder of your choice; - when you now start the LibreOffice app bundle, it will create a new fresh profile. If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Connecting to SQLite3 .db and Working With it
Hi :) If the problem is the lack of a connector then writing a connector in Python so that you can use Base might be more useful than developing your own database program to use the sqlite backend - especially if you OpenSource the connector and upload it to the Extensions website. It'd mean more people able to keep it updated and less work setting it up, hopefully! Anyway, good luck and regards from Tom :) On 20 January 2015 at 21:04, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, Rich Shepard wrote: One of the unixODBC developers has been helping; perhaps tomorrow (in my timezone) it will finally be resolved. Apparently there's no visible explanation for the problem. So, I'll write the application in Python/wxPython which I know works well with sqlite3. Thanks to everyone for trying to solve this conundrum, Rich -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use for Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS. SO, I install in manually via the standard package manager for the distro. My default printer is the CUPS PDF system. That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS? I have some Canon printers no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out. Needed dependencies not longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
