Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible
At 15:23 21/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote: Can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I have to change I'm surprised you didn't see I had already done this. o The Windows setting is in Control Panel. See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/turn-on-high-contrast . o The LibreOffice settings are at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility | Options for high contrast appearance. I recommend you experiment with these settings to see what you prefer. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible
THX Brian, can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I have to change+see below Regards, mars On 21.02.2016 21:41, Brian Barker [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: At 16:38 20/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote: >In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working. Er, in exactly what way? >Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background >formatting is working properly. It's probably worth realising that if the whole idea of cell background colouring had failed, someone would have noticed. So, whatever problem you are finding, it is unlikely to be solved simply by using another version of the application itself. I agree that it is probably a Win7/Java/LO-configuration problem rather than a LO bug. >LO V5.0.4.2 on Win7. At 12:41 21/02/2016 -0700, 1124mars wrote: >therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not working. It very probably is. >Do I have to select some specific options? I think you may have to *deselect* them. >select a cell or row/column >Format cells >Background >select a color + ok > >the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected color >File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected color is visible! This is an important clue, of course - so I wonder why you kept it a secret in your original query. >But why not on my screen? I'm guessing here, and I don't have the set-up to test my suggestions. Operating systems can have a "high contrast" setting; your Windows does, and you can find it in Control Panel. The idea of these is that you can modify the appearance of your work *on your display* to make it easier to work, whilst preserving the final appearance of your document when it is printed or whatever. This is not so different from the row number, column letters, and indeed the grid - all of which appear in the screen display but not (at least by default) in the real document. As you say, these screen readability changes do not show up in Page Preview - which instead demonstrates the true appearance of your document. The exact screen appearance as you work depends on a combination of the high-contrast settings in Windows and your choices in LibreOffice at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility. You may want to experiment with these to see what you prefer. Can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I have to change Alternatively, since you now admit that your actual document behaves as you want, you may choose to do nothing. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176197.html To unsubscribe from Calc: background color in cells invisible, click here . NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176226.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible
THX for your reply; see my comments below Regards mars On 21.02.2016 09:53, Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit : > Hi, > In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working. > Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background formating is > working properly. It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-) That said, - what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ? select cell or row/column click icon background color select a color or format cells select tab background select color+ok selected cell/row/col remain white=no color visible but file/browser preview -> color is visible in the browser preview!!! do I have to select some additional options - what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ? .ods - Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for conditional formatting ? no Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176140.html To unsubscribe from Calc: background color in cells invisible, click here . NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176198.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: background color in cells invisible
At 16:38 20/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote: In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working. Er, in exactly what way? Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background formatting is working properly. It's probably worth realising that if the whole idea of cell background colouring had failed, someone would have noticed. So, whatever problem you are finding, it is unlikely to be solved simply by using another version of the application itself. LO V5.0.4.2 on Win7. At 12:41 21/02/2016 -0700, 1124mars wrote: therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not working. It very probably is. Do I have to select some specific options? I think you may have to *deselect* them. select a cell or row/column Format cells Background select a color + ok the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected color File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected color is visible! This is an important clue, of course - so I wonder why you kept it a secret in your original query. But why not on my screen? I'm guessing here, and I don't have the set-up to test my suggestions. Operating systems can have a "high contrast" setting; your Windows does, and you can find it in Control Panel. The idea of these is that you can modify the appearance of your work *on your display* to make it easier to work, whilst preserving the final appearance of your document when it is printed or whatever. This is not so different from the row number, column letters, and indeed the grid - all of which appear in the screen display but not (at least by default) in the real document. As you say, these screen readability changes do not show up in Page Preview - which instead demonstrates the true appearance of your document. The exact screen appearance as you work depends on a combination of the high-contrast settings in Windows and your choices in LibreOffice at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility. You may want to experiment with these to see what you prefer. Alternatively, since you now admit that your actual document behaves as you want, you may choose to do nothing. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible
THX for your reply+see my comments below Regards, mars On 21.02.2016 09:53, Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: Hi, Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit : > Hi, > In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working. > Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background formating is > working properly. It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-) therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not working. Do I have to select some specific options??? That said, - what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ? select a cell or row/column Format cells Background select a color + ok the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected color File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected color is visible!!! But why not on my screen? - what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ? .ods - Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for conditional formatting ? no Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176140.html To unsubscribe from Calc: background color in cells invisible, click here . NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-background-color-in-cells-invisible-tp4176124p4176194.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing the first character, did I stumble onto the right answer
Not doubting that. I'll run a few other examples and see if I can post a screenshot. On Feb 20, 2016 7:22 PM, "Brian Barker" wrote: > At 15:23 20/02/2016 -0700, John Meyer wrote: > >> Nothing, which it did (aka deleted it). >> > > That's not what "&" does for other people. > > Brian Barker > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice
Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote > None of which has ANY effect. > Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every > change. > > I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does > nobody encounter it? > I noticed it on SIX different computers. Yes, you only need to restart LibreOffice. Did you use the same document to test the 6 computers? I have never seen the "major text portions start to "run" into each other just like wet ink on paper" problem. Can you share a link to the document (if you used the same document)? Can you take a screenshot of the problem? Maybe you should search Bugzilla for this problem (and report it if it hasn't been reported yet) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Screen-tearing-in-LibreOffice-tp4176146p4176158.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files
hi. does she make any change in her libreoffice options? which version of libreoffice does she use before 5.1? and also its useful to uncheck these two options as i know. go to tools, options, view, and uncheck Use hardware acceleration and Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart). hope thats help. On 2/21/16, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hi all, > > It's very important for me to fix this weird problem - so bear with me on > the story so far: > > A year ago my mom asked me to advise about a 14" laptop. The only one > available at the time, in her price range, had Windows 8.0 pre-installed on > it. She hated it right on the get-go, so it wasn't hard to convince her to > switch to Ubuntu. I wiped the hard drive and installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it. > I used the LibreOffice PPA since version 4.3 and all went well. > > My mom uses her laptop to write a book, her memoirs. She uses the Microsoft > Office 2013 format to save her work because, sadly, her editor uses the > dreadful Office Suite... > > So, a few days ago she sent her current file to her Editor. The editor > added some comments in the file and sent it back to her. A few seconds > after opening the file, LibreOffice hangs (the window goes dark) and > sometimes the whole Desktop Environment (Unity) froze (!) > > Here is what I tried - without success: > > >- Upgrading to Libreoffice 5.1 (by adding the new PPA: >libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1). >- Removing older LibreOffice versions (ppa-purge). >- Purging LibreOffice and re-installing it (apt-get purge libreoffice*). >- Opening the same fie on different computers with different CPUs (her >desktop computer also runs Ubuntu 14.04 after an automatic upgrade to >Windows 10 annoyed her too :-) > > As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me > to make it work! > > >- Any tips? >- Maybe tweaking some configuration options? >- Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format? > > I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling > she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which > version of Microsoft Office she uses... > > Thank you for your help, > > Amichai. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- O people! there has come to you indeed an admonition from your Lord and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy for the believers. Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should rejoice; it is better than that which they gather. holy quran, chapter 10 verses 57 and 58. please visit al-islam.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice Update = SOLVED
On 2016/02/21 19:25, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: On 2016/02/21 18:59, Pedro wrote: Hi Thomas Thank you. I have tried to turn EACH of the items you mentioned ON/OFF before and just retried. None of which has ANY effect. Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every change. I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does nobody encounter it? I noticed it on SIX different computers. I just tried Turn OFF: Tools -> Options -> Writer -> View -> Smooth scroll Since I was dissatisfied with the "jumpiness" of scrolling in LibreOffice, I THOUGHT "smooth scroll" will improve things - and forgot about that settings for years now. If I turn that thing off, the "running ink" phenomenon seems to disappear. The jumpiness of the scrolling remains (gets worse) though. Sorry for the commotion. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files
Hi Amichai Amichai Rotman wrote > As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me > to make it work! > >- Any tips? >- Maybe tweaking some configuration options? >- Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format? > > I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling > she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which > version of Microsoft Office she uses... Microsoft Office and LibreOffice (or any Open Document based Office) will never be 100% compatible. It is not in Microsoft's interest that they are compatible. That said, you are probably better off using Office 2003 (.doc) format. It has been around for a longer time (so many problems have been figured out) and it is no longer changing. On the contrary there is no Office 2013 format. It is just another iteration of the XML version that Microsoft has been tweaking since Office 2007 making it slightly incompatible even with the previous MS Office releases so that the user is forced to keep buying the newest version. If there are any features in the document that are not compatible with .doc then your only options (excluding giving in to Microsoft) are to ask the Editor to install LibreOffice alongside with Microsoft Office or send the editor the Portable version of LibreOffice (maybe just the link) http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/ and in that case you could stick with ODF files which is definitely your best option. The idea is that the Editor will still be using MS Office as default but can open ODF files. Hope this helps, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Opening-Microsoft-Office-2013-files-tp4176151p4176156.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice
On 2016/02/21 18:59, Pedro wrote: Hi Thomas Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote A solution would be VERY highly appreciated. Have you tried disabling OpenGL? In my systems the recently added OpenGL does not bring any improvement even on a high spec machine (on the contrary) Go to Tools > Options, on the left panel LibreOffice > View and on the right panel uncheck "Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart)" Close and open LibreOffice to see if any improvements are noticeable. If there were no changes try disabling "Use anti-aliasing" and/or "Use hardware acceleration". Change one setting at a time and try all possible combinations. Hope this helps. Pedro Thank you. I have tried to turn EACH of the items you mentioned ON/OFF before and just retried. None of which has ANY effect. Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every change. I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does nobody encounter it? I noticed it on SIX different computers. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files
Hi all, It's very important for me to fix this weird problem - so bear with me on the story so far: A year ago my mom asked me to advise about a 14" laptop. The only one available at the time, in her price range, had Windows 8.0 pre-installed on it. She hated it right on the get-go, so it wasn't hard to convince her to switch to Ubuntu. I wiped the hard drive and installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it. I used the LibreOffice PPA since version 4.3 and all went well. My mom uses her laptop to write a book, her memoirs. She uses the Microsoft Office 2013 format to save her work because, sadly, her editor uses the dreadful Office Suite... So, a few days ago she sent her current file to her Editor. The editor added some comments in the file and sent it back to her. A few seconds after opening the file, LibreOffice hangs (the window goes dark) and sometimes the whole Desktop Environment (Unity) froze (!) Here is what I tried - without success: - Upgrading to Libreoffice 5.1 (by adding the new PPA: libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1). - Removing older LibreOffice versions (ppa-purge). - Purging LibreOffice and re-installing it (apt-get purge libreoffice*). - Opening the same fie on different computers with different CPUs (her desktop computer also runs Ubuntu 14.04 after an automatic upgrade to Windows 10 annoyed her too :-) As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me to make it work! - Any tips? - Maybe tweaking some configuration options? - Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format? I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which version of Microsoft Office she uses... Thank you for your help, Amichai. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice
Hi Thomas Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote > A solution would be VERY highly appreciated. Have you tried disabling OpenGL? In my systems the recently added OpenGL does not bring any improvement even on a high spec machine (on the contrary) Go to Tools > Options, on the left panel LibreOffice > View and on the right panel uncheck "Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart)" Close and open LibreOffice to see if any improvements are noticeable. If there were no changes try disabling "Use anti-aliasing" and/or "Use hardware acceleration". Change one setting at a time and try all possible combinations. Hope this helps. Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Screen-tearing-in-LibreOffice-tp4176146p4176149.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Screen tearing in LibreOffice
Good evening I have been asking about this several times. (Most recently on 2/15 under the title "display") There are appearantly a number of technical terms to describe the phenomenons related to text display, but I do not know which of those is the appropriate ONE. "screen tearing" seems to refer to something a little different. Anyway, I noticed a connection to the degree of magnification. Maybe somebody knows something here? Since I have sufficiently large monitors - and because of age and poor eyesight -, I set the zoom level to something like 200%. When I set it to "optimal" on a 24" monitor, I get something over 200%. By accident I noticed, that the "screen tearing" DOES NOT (or at least not that annoyingly) occur at a zoom level of 140% or less. THAT seems to be the limit. Even on my high-spec machine. But I do not like to squint at my screen for 8 hours or more a day. Question. IS there a trick to avoid this phenomenon, where major text portions start to "run" into each other just like wet ink on paper and thus become unreadable? A solution would be VERY highly appreciated. Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: background color in cells invisible
Hi, Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit : > Hi, > In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working. > Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background formating is > working properly. It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-) That said, - what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ? - what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ? - Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for conditional formatting ? Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted