Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:23 21/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote:

Can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I have to change


I'm surprised you didn't see I had already done this.

o The Windows setting is in Control Panel. See
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/turn-on-high-contrast .

o The LibreOffice settings are at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | 
Accessibility | Options for high contrast appearance.


I recommend you experiment with these settings to see what you prefer.

Brian Barker  



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread 1124mars

  

  
  
THX Brian, 
  can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I
  have to change+see below 
  Regards, 
  mars 
  
  
  On 21.02.2016 21:41, Brian Barker [via Document Foundation Mail
  Archive] wrote: 

 At 16:38 20/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote:
  
  >In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working.
  
  
  Er, in exactly what way?
  
  
  >Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background
  
  >formatting is working properly.
  
  
  It's probably worth realising that if the whole idea of cell 
  background colouring had failed, someone would have noticed. So, 
  whatever problem you are finding, it is unlikely to be solved
  simply 
  by using another version of the application itself.
  

I agree that it is probably a Win7/Java/LO-configuration problem
rather than a LO bug. 

  >LO V5.0.4.2 on Win7.
  
  
  At 12:41 21/02/2016 -0700, 1124mars wrote:
  
  >therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not
  working.
  
  
  It very probably is.
  
  
  >Do I have to select some specific options?
  
  
  I think you may have to *deselect* them.
  
  
  >select a cell or row/column
  
  >Format cells
  
  >Background
  
  >select a color + ok
  
  >
  
  >the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected
  color
  
  >File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected
  color is visible!
  
  
  This is an important clue, of course - so I wonder why you kept it
  a 
  secret in your original query.
  
  
  >But why not on my screen?
  
  
  I'm guessing here, and I don't have the set-up to test my 
  suggestions. Operating systems can have a "high contrast" setting;
  
  your Windows does, and you can find it in Control Panel. The idea
  of 
  these is that you can modify the appearance of your work *on your
  
  display* to make it easier to work, whilst preserving the final 
  appearance of your document when it is printed or whatever. This
  is 
  not so different from the row number, column letters, and indeed
  the 
  grid - all of which appear in the screen display but not (at least
  by 
  default) in the real document. As you say, these screen
  readability 
  changes do not show up in Page Preview - which instead
  demonstrates 
  the true appearance of your document.
  
  
  The exact screen appearance as you work depends on a combination
  of 
  the high-contrast settings in Windows and your choices in
  LibreOffice 
  at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility. You may want
  to 
  experiment with these to see what you prefer.
  

Can you give me any advice which WIN7/LO settings/parameters I have
to change 

  Alternatively, since you now admit that your actual document
  behaves 
  as you want, you may choose to do nothing.
  
  
  I trust this helps.
  
  
  Brian Barker
  
  
  
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread 1124mars

  

  
  
THX for your reply; see my comments
  below 
  Regards 
  mars 
  
  On 21.02.2016 09:53, Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 [via Document
  Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: 


  
  Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit :
  
  > Hi,
  
  > In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working.
  
  > Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background
  formating is
  
  > working properly.
  
  
  It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-)
  
  
  That said,
  
  - what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ?
  

select cell or row/column 
click icon background color 
select a color 

or 

format cells 
select tab background 
select color+ok 

selected cell/row/col remain white=no color visible 

but 
file/browser preview -> color is visible in the browser
preview!!! 

do I have to select some additional options 
-
  what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ?
  

.ods 
-
  Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for
  
  conditional formatting ?
  

no 

  Best regards.
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:38 20/02/2016 -0700, Mars Noname wrote:

In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working.


Er, in exactly what way?

Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background 
formatting is working properly.


It's probably worth realising that if the whole idea of cell 
background colouring had failed, someone would have noticed. So, 
whatever problem you are finding, it is unlikely to be solved simply 
by using another version of the application itself.



LO V5.0.4.2 on Win7.


At 12:41 21/02/2016 -0700, 1124mars wrote:

therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not working.


It very probably is.


Do I have to select some specific options?


I think you may have to *deselect* them.


select a cell or row/column
Format cells
Background
select a color + ok

the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected color
File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected color is visible!


This is an important clue, of course - so I wonder why you kept it a 
secret in your original query.



But why not on my screen?


I'm guessing here, and I don't have the set-up to test my 
suggestions. Operating systems can have a "high contrast" setting; 
your Windows does, and you can find it in Control Panel. The idea of 
these is that you can modify the appearance of your work *on your 
display* to make it easier to work, whilst preserving the final 
appearance of your document when it is printed or whatever. This is 
not so different from the row number, column letters, and indeed the 
grid - all of which appear in the screen display but not (at least by 
default) in the real document. As you say, these screen readability 
changes do not show up in Page Preview - which instead demonstrates 
the true appearance of your document.


The exact screen appearance as you work depends on a combination of 
the high-contrast settings in Windows and your choices in LibreOffice 
at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility. You may want to 
experiment with these to see what you prefer.


Alternatively, since you now admit that your actual document behaves 
as you want, you may choose to do nothing.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread 1124mars

  

  
  
THX for your reply+see my comments
  below 
  Regards, 
  mars 
  
  On 21.02.2016 09:53, Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 [via Document
  Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: 


  Hi,
  
  
  Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit :
  
  > Hi,
  
  > In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working.
  
  > Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background
  formating is
  
  > working properly.
  
  
  It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-)
  

therefore I do not understand why this basic feature is not working. 
Do I have to select some specific options??? 

  That said,
  
  - what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ? 
select a cell or row/column 
Format cells 
Background 
select a color + ok 

the selected cell/row/column remain white=without the selected color 

File/browser preview -> in the browser preview the selected color
is visible!!! 
But why not on my screen? 

  
  - what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ?
  

.ods 
-
  Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for
  
  conditional formatting ?
  

no 

  Best regards.
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing the first character, did I stumble onto the right answer

2016-02-21 Thread John Meyer
Not doubting that. I'll run a few other examples and see if I can post a
screenshot.
On Feb 20, 2016 7:22 PM, "Brian Barker"  wrote:

> At 15:23 20/02/2016 -0700, John Meyer wrote:
>
>> Nothing, which it did (aka deleted it).
>>
>
> That's not what "&" does for other people.
>
> Brian Barker
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice

2016-02-21 Thread Pedro
Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote
> None of which has ANY effect.
> Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every
> change.
> 
> I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does 
> nobody encounter it?
> I noticed it on SIX different computers.

Yes, you only need to restart LibreOffice.

Did you use the same document to test the 6 computers? I have never seen the
"major text portions
start to "run" into each other just like wet ink on paper" problem. 
Can you share a link to the document (if you used the same document)?
Can you take a screenshot of the problem?
Maybe you should search Bugzilla for this problem (and report it if it
hasn't been reported yet)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files

2016-02-21 Thread nasrin khaksar
hi.
does she make any change in her libreoffice options?
which version of libreoffice does she use before 5.1?
and also its useful to uncheck these two options as i know.
go to tools, options, view, and uncheck Use hardware acceleration and
Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart).
hope thats help.

On 2/21/16, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It's very important for me to fix this weird problem - so bear with me on
> the story so far:
>
> A year ago my mom asked me to advise about a 14" laptop. The only one
> available at the time, in her price range, had Windows 8.0 pre-installed on
> it. She hated it right on the get-go, so it wasn't hard to convince her to
> switch to Ubuntu. I wiped the hard drive and installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it.
> I used the LibreOffice PPA since version 4.3 and all went well.
>
> My mom uses her laptop to write a book, her memoirs. She uses the Microsoft
> Office 2013 format to save her work because, sadly, her editor uses the
> dreadful Office Suite...
>
> So, a few days ago she sent her current file to her Editor. The editor
> added some comments in the file and sent it back to her. A few seconds
> after opening the file, LibreOffice hangs (the window goes dark) and
> sometimes the whole Desktop Environment (Unity)  froze (!)
>
> Here is what I tried - without success:
>
>
>- Upgrading to Libreoffice 5.1 (by adding the new PPA:
>libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1).
>- Removing older LibreOffice versions (ppa-purge).
>- Purging LibreOffice and re-installing it (apt-get purge libreoffice*).
>- Opening the same fie on different computers with different CPUs (her
>desktop computer also runs Ubuntu 14.04 after an automatic upgrade to
>Windows 10 annoyed her too :-)
>
> As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me
> to make it work!
>
>
>- Any tips?
>- Maybe tweaking some configuration options?
>- Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format?
>
> I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling
> she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which
> version of Microsoft Office she uses...
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> Amichai.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice Update = SOLVED

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2016/02/21 19:25, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2016/02/21 18:59, Pedro wrote:

Hi Thomas




Thank you.
I have tried to turn EACH of the items you mentioned ON/OFF before and 
just retried.

None of which has ANY effect.
Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every 
change.


I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does 
nobody encounter it?

I noticed it on SIX different computers.




I just tried
Turn OFF:
Tools -> Options -> Writer -> View -> Smooth scroll

Since I was dissatisfied with the "jumpiness" of scrolling in 
LibreOffice, I THOUGHT "smooth scroll" will improve things -

and forgot about that settings for years now.
If I turn that thing off, the "running ink" phenomenon seems to disappear.
The jumpiness of the scrolling remains (gets worse) though.

Sorry for the commotion.
Thomas


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files

2016-02-21 Thread Pedro
Hi Amichai


Amichai Rotman wrote
> As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me
> to make it work!
> 
>- Any tips?
>- Maybe tweaking some configuration options?
>- Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format?
> 
> I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling
> she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which
> version of Microsoft Office she uses...

Microsoft Office and LibreOffice (or any Open Document based Office) will
never be 100% compatible. It is not in Microsoft's interest that they are
compatible.

That said, you are probably better off using Office 2003 (.doc) format. It
has been around for a longer time (so many problems have been figured out)
and it is no longer changing. On the contrary there is no Office 2013
format. It is just another iteration of the XML version that Microsoft has
been tweaking since Office 2007 making it slightly incompatible even with
the previous MS Office releases so that the user is forced to keep buying
the newest version.

If there are any features in the document that are not compatible with .doc
then your only options (excluding giving in to Microsoft) are to ask the
Editor to install LibreOffice alongside with Microsoft Office or send the
editor the Portable version of LibreOffice (maybe just the link)
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/
and in that case you could stick with ODF files which is definitely your
best option.

The idea is that the Editor will still be using MS Office as default but can
open ODF files.

Hope this helps,
Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2016/02/21 18:59, Pedro wrote:

Hi Thomas


Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote

A solution would be VERY highly appreciated.

Have you tried disabling OpenGL? In my systems the recently added OpenGL
does not bring any improvement even on a high spec machine (on the contrary)

Go to Tools > Options, on the left panel LibreOffice > View and on the right
panel uncheck "Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart)"
Close and open LibreOffice to see if any improvements are noticeable. If
there were no changes try disabling "Use anti-aliasing" and/or "Use hardware
acceleration". Change one setting at a time and try all possible
combinations.

Hope this helps.
Pedro



Thank you.
I have tried to turn EACH of the items you mentioned ON/OFF before and 
just retried.

None of which has ANY effect.
Just to make sure, I restarted LibreOffice (not Windows) after every change.

I seem to be the only person complaining about this behavior. Does 
nobody encounter it?

I noticed it on SIX different computers.




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[libreoffice-users] Opening Microsoft Office 2013 files

2016-02-21 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi all,

It's very important for me to fix this weird problem - so bear with me on
the story so far:

A year ago my mom asked me to advise about a 14" laptop. The only one
available at the time, in her price range, had Windows 8.0 pre-installed on
it. She hated it right on the get-go, so it wasn't hard to convince her to
switch to Ubuntu. I wiped the hard drive and installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it.
I used the LibreOffice PPA since version 4.3 and all went well.

My mom uses her laptop to write a book, her memoirs. She uses the Microsoft
Office 2013 format to save her work because, sadly, her editor uses the
dreadful Office Suite...

So, a few days ago she sent her current file to her Editor. The editor
added some comments in the file and sent it back to her. A few seconds
after opening the file, LibreOffice hangs (the window goes dark) and
sometimes the whole Desktop Environment (Unity)  froze (!)

Here is what I tried - without success:


   - Upgrading to Libreoffice 5.1 (by adding the new PPA:
   libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1).
   - Removing older LibreOffice versions (ppa-purge).
   - Purging LibreOffice and re-installing it (apt-get purge libreoffice*).
   - Opening the same fie on different computers with different CPUs (her
   desktop computer also runs Ubuntu 14.04 after an automatic upgrade to
   Windows 10 annoyed her too :-)

As I mentioned, none of these steps worked. It is *very* important for me
to make it work!


   - Any tips?
   - Maybe tweaking some configuration options?
   - Telling her Editor to save the fie in a different format?

I wish I could switch her Editor to LibreOffice too, but I get the feeling
she's not that open minded as my mom. It took her to days to tell me which
version of Microsoft Office she uses...

Thank you for your help,

Amichai.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Screen tearing in LibreOffice

2016-02-21 Thread Pedro
Hi Thomas


Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote
> A solution would be VERY highly appreciated.

Have you tried disabling OpenGL? In my systems the recently added OpenGL
does not bring any improvement even on a high spec machine (on the contrary)

Go to Tools > Options, on the left panel LibreOffice > View and on the right
panel uncheck "Use OpenGL for all rendering (on restart)"
Close and open LibreOffice to see if any improvements are noticeable. If
there were no changes try disabling "Use anti-aliasing" and/or "Use hardware
acceleration". Change one setting at a time and try all possible
combinations.

Hope this helps.
Pedro



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[libreoffice-users] Screen tearing in LibreOffice

2016-02-21 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

Good evening
I have been asking about this several times. (Most recently on 2/15 
under the title "display")
There are appearantly a number of technical terms to describe the 
phenomenons related to text display,

but I do not know which of those is the appropriate ONE.
"screen tearing" seems to refer to something a little different.

Anyway, I noticed a connection to the degree of magnification. Maybe 
somebody knows something here?
Since I have sufficiently large monitors - and because of age and poor 
eyesight -, I set the zoom level to something like 200%.

When I set it to "optimal" on a 24" monitor, I get something over 200%.
By accident I noticed, that the "screen tearing" DOES NOT (or at least 
not that annoyingly) occur at a zoom level of 140% or less.

THAT seems to be the limit. Even on my high-spec machine.

But I do not like to squint at my screen for 8 hours or more a day.

Question.
IS there a trick to avoid this phenomenon, where major text portions 
start to "run" into each other just like wet ink on paper and thus 
become unreadable?


A solution would be VERY highly appreciated.
Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: background color in cells invisible

2016-02-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

Le 21/02/2016 00:38, 1124mars a écrit :
> Hi,
> In Calc the background color feature of cells is not working.
> Who can give me any advice in which LO version the background formating is
> working properly.

It works since LO 3.3 and before that, since StarOffice 5. ;-)

That said,
- what do you do exactly to set the background color in a cell ?
- what is the format of your file, .ods or one of MSO ?
- Do you use cell styles in your spreadsheet, for example for
conditional formatting ?

Best regards.
JBF


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