[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 7 -vs- Office 2019

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 27/09/2020 à 23:36, charles meyer a écrit :

Hi Charles,

> Havet you actually *used *(not just Googled a list or found a list or
> suggestions on Wiki) other free, open source applications which will do
> most of what Publisher does?
> 


We used Scribus in my firm to prepare a newsletter intended for
circulation to our clients.

Alex

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office problem

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Does this help?
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/About_Headers_and_Footers

Regards from
a Tom :)

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 20:43 anne-ology,  wrote:

>Maybe I can help,
>
>   is the document locked?; if so, then you need ro unlock it first,
> if not, then ??
>
>   have you gone to the menus for header & footer?, maybe the
> changes can be done there?
>
>   have you selected all then attempted to apply new information to
> the template?
>
>Maybe someone else on this list will answer with more help soon,
>
>
>
>
> From: Vesna Karanov 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:11:00 +0200
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office problem
> Hi, can you help me? I am having a problem deleting header photo,
> watermark, and footer from documents. I cannot delete or even select those
> object. As if they are previously created templates. Can you give me
> instructions how to change it? I have a new logo for my company and I need
> to change it in our documentation.
>
> Kind regards,
> *Vesna Karanov* | Design and Marketing manager
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office problem

[anne-ology]

   Maybe I can help,

  is the document locked?; if so, then you need ro unlock it first,
if not, then ??

  have you gone to the menus for header & footer?, maybe the
changes can be done there?

  have you selected all then attempted to apply new information to
the template?

   Maybe someone else on this list will answer with more help soon,




From: Vesna Karanov 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:11:00 +0200
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office problem
Hi, can you help me? I am having a problem deleting header photo,
watermark, and footer from documents. I cannot delete or even select those
object. As if they are previously created templates. Can you give me
instructions how to change it? I have a new logo for my company and I need
to change it in our documentation.

Kind regards,
*Vesna Karanov* | Design and Marketing manager
vesna.kara...@novalite.rs  | +381 (60) 042 62 59
*NovaLite doo* | novalite.rs  
off...@novalite.rs | +381 (21) 661 64 32
Futoška 89, Novi Sad

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 5.4

[V Stuart Foote]

You don't mention the OS or desktop you are working with. But if you are on
Windows, open the Task Manager -> Details and "end process tree" for each
instance of "soffice.bin".  If that does not clear--then repeat and use the
Help -> "Restart in Safe mode" dialog to clear your user profile (or do it
manually in the AppData/Roaming directory).




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Re: [libreoffice-users] re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[Girvin Herr]

zahra,

Yes, I use Slackware Linux exclusively on all of my computers.  I was 
surprised there is a LO 5.2.7.2 released.  I was not expecting that, so 
I have not been keeping up.  I will download it as soon as I can.  
Thanks for mentioning it.


I normally use OpenOffice (AOO) for most of my work, since there are 
some bugs in LibreOffice (LO) since 4.x  that I find frustrating.  
Mainly, that it does not restore my last session properly, where AOO 
still does.  However, AOO no longer bundles the Base Report Generator in 
their package and LO still does.  So I keep LO installed for my 
quarterly database reports that I generate.  Other than that. LO and AOO 
are interchangeable to me.


HTH.

Girvin Herr



On 06/02/2017 11:56 PM, zahra a wrote:

hi.
i think the most stable version currently is 5.2.7.2
but i decided to use 5.2.6.1 forever and never update it!

do you use linux?
i dont have direct link for downloading this version on linux, because
i use windows.
hope that help and God bless you!

On 6/3/17, charles meyer  wrote:

Girvin and Steve,

Thank you so much for all your details re: version differences!

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[zahra a]

hi.
i think the most stable version currently is 5.2.7.2
but i decided to use 5.2.6.1 forever and never update it!

do you use linux?
i dont have direct link for downloading this version on linux, because
i use windows.
hope that help and God bless you!

On 6/3/17, charles meyer  wrote:
> Girvin and Steve,
>
> Thank you so much for all your details re: version differences!
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
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[libreoffice-users] re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[charles meyer]

Girvin and Steve,

Thank you so much for all your details re: version differences!

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[Joel Madero]

On 6/1/2017 10:54 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Thank you all for sharing your experiences with LO 5.3.3

Which LO version would you suggest I upgrade to from my 3.1?

Is LO 5.2 a safer option with most bugs worked out?
No - the bugs will never "mostly be worked out" - there are thousands of 
reported bugs. I recommend getting on the latest version. You'll get 
lots of perks and new features and experience basically the same number 
of bugs (give or take a few dozen). A nasty bug for me might be a 
"didn't even notice" situation for you. The only way to know is to run 
the version and see if it has any personal "show-stoppers"


I run master for professional daily use and it's fine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi Charles.
It depends upon what you are doing, as from 3.1 there have been some 
changes.

If you use EPS illustrations, you may need to stay with an older version.
If you produce larger documents with more numerous images distributed in 
PDF (books, manuals) it may pay to stay with the last of the 4 series.
If you just do day to day word processing and spread sheets, I would 
recommend the last of the 5.2 series. The 5.3 series may even be fine.


I have not found any of them to be unstable, just bags that affect 
certain areas of use.


Steve

On 02/06/17 05:54, charles meyer wrote:

Thank you all for sharing your experiences with LO 5.3.3

Which LO version would you suggest I upgrade to from my 3.1?

Is LO 5.2 a safer option with most bugs worked out?

Thank you!

Charles.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office - 5.3.3

[Graham P Davis]

On 30/05/17 22:00, charles meyer wrote:

There seems to be quite a few posts re: tech glitches with the latest LO.

Is that just with the Linux version or are others finding issues with the
Windows version as well?



I've found changes to graphs in Calc don't often stick unless I move the 
graph a smidgen. They're not lost but just don't display outside edit 
until the graph is shifted.


Possibly fixed in 5.3.3.2? Can't be sure yet.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office for Androids

[Pedro]

Hi Tim


krackedpress wrote
> I asked the same question on the need of a office package for my tablet.
> 
> What I found out, for my 10 inch tablet, you really need an external 
> keyboard to use an Android Office package.
> 
> I too wait for LibreOffice to get an fully functional Android version.  
> While I wait, I will use the office package available - other than 
> Microsoft's Android office options.  Once LO has its version, then I 
> will have LO on Windows, Ubuntu Linux, and Android.

There is another option: get a free account at https://open365.io/ and use
LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 within your browser.

If you install the open365 Android application you will have two
synchronized copies of each document: 1 in your tablet and another on the
open365 cloud.

The good news: if your tablet breaks all your documents are safe. The bad
news: because LibreOffice is running in your browser you can only edit your
files when you are connected to the internet...

It is currently the closest you can get to having LibreOffice on an Android
tablet...

Pedro



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office - older version

[charles meyer]

Thank you!

Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office - older version
Date:   Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:21:40 +
From:   Brian Barker 
To: 

At 11:15 24/03/2016 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can download a trusted/official older version of 
>Libre Office ­ specifically version 3.6.4.3 ?

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/3.6.4.3/

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Alex Thurgood]

Le 17/07/2015 15:50, Ian Whitfield a écrit :

Hi Ian,

 This does not work - You can enlarge the box but this only creates a
 larger gray area round two sides of the Check Box which keeps it's
 original size!!??

Yes, this is a longstanding known limitation of the tickbox control
object. It can not be resized, the object frame around it can, but not
the object itself.


Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Andreas Säger]

Am 19.07.2015 um 06:33 schrieb Peter Goggin:
 
  For my current needs I have found Libre Base more than adequate. 


Indeed, I have no important office document that is not connected to
some type of database -- one way or the other, dBase, HSQL server, csv,
spreadsheet or H2 SQL.
My users are very happy with my data sources but whenever they need
something different or something new, they have to contact me.

Common misconceptions:
Base is a development tool. It is not for end users. The result of your
work should be aimed at end users.
As soon as you create your first database table, you develop your own
data structure, a user-defined storage format so to say where data types
play the most important role. Most office users can not even comprehend
the difference between text and values in a spreadsheet. Relations and
indices are further refinements of your data structure. Proper database
design requires some knowledge beforehand. Learning by doing is not an
option here.
The database has nothing to do with Base. HSQL, MySQL, Calc or your
Microsoft ADO driver work independently. First of all, you work with
these programs while developing with Base.
Base provides forms for the aledged end user to fill your predefined
data structures. The input form transfers meaningful information into
data which are stored in your structures. Form design is development
work as well. It requires that you fully understand the underlying data
structures and how to utilize the limited set of (sub-)forms and their
form controls. Form design is also the place where most of the macro
development takes place (if any).
Queries turn meaningless data into meaningful information. Reports dump
information to printable office documents.

End users load forms to type information into the right places of your
structure and they load reports, form letters, spreadsheets to fetch
some of the stored data as meaningful information.
All the questionable helpers that were implemented back in 2005
(OpenOffice.org 2.0) have not much improved since then and they are
mostly obsolete. Any person with the mind set of a developer is better
off without them.
Nevertheless, we have to recognize that 90% of all Base documents out
there link spreadsheets to form letters. In this very limited context,
the existing primitive query designer adds some extra value for those
who never wrote a single SQL statement.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Ian Whitfield]

I posted this 2 days back but don't see it coming up on the Form - Let's 
try again .


Hi Gabriele

On 16/07/2015 10:45, Gabriele Ponzo wrote:


/It is, more or less, in the GUI: You just have to open the Form's 
properties dialog box and correct the already present query (or 
insert, not sure) with the suggested one. Just a row to write in a 
property. /


Where is the Form's Properties Dialog Box?? Can't seem to find anything 
with this name!


/Re-sizing Check Boxes/

/In this case You have to open the form in edit mode (just like for 
the previous point), click on the CheckBox and resize it./


This does not work - You can enlarge the box but this only creates a 
larger gray area round two sides of the Check Box which keeps it's 
original size!!??


Thanks for the help

IanW
Pretoria RSA

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Andreas Säger]

Am 16.07.2015 um 10:51 schrieb Andreas Säger:
 Am 16.07.2015 um 09:15 schrieb Ian Whitfield:
 Hi Andreas

 On 15/07/2015 17:32, Andreas Säger wrote:
 SELECT * FROM Table ORDER BY what,you,want
 Thanks - I was hoping there was a way to do this from the GUI!!

 
 The GUI is almost useless compared to the options that are provided by
 the most basic SQL statements.
 Of course you may use the idiotic query designer to build a similar
 (though more complicated) query, but why?
 

In this particular case the query designer is stupid because you need to
include all the fields in the right column order. You can not select *
(all fields) and then apply some sort order on fields that are not visible.

And you can not define something like

SELECT want, what, you
FROM Table
ORDER BY what,you,want

where the field order differs from the sort order which does not matter
since the column order means nothing. In your forms and reports you are
free to use the fields in any column order.

There are many more reasons why the query designer is completely
inefficient and inadequate in the context of a relational database.
Writing down simple SQL statements is so much easier than using this GUI
rubbish. Quite often the designer turns a valid SQL statement into an
invalid one. Very often it fails to do mildly advanced stuff.
There are similar issues with the table designer, the index designer and
the form designer. The form designer is the worst member of the crew.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Andreas Säger]

Am 16.07.2015 um 09:15 schrieb Ian Whitfield:
 Hi Andreas
 
 On 15/07/2015 17:32, Andreas Säger wrote:
 SELECT * FROM Table ORDER BY what,you,want
 Thanks - I was hoping there was a way to do this from the GUI!!


The GUI is almost useless compared to the options that are provided by
the most basic SQL statements.
Of course you may use the idiotic query designer to build a similar
(though more complicated) query, but why?

The clou is: After you have defined this simple query one way or the
other, you can simply use this query instead of the original table. It
has the exact same properties as the original table, behaves exactly in
the same ways while presenting the data in the sort order you want.

 The database engine (MySQL) has zero influence on the tick boxes.
 OK understood - but is there any way to adjust their size??
 

I don't know. I would expect that the theme of your window manager is
responsible for this.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Base

[Andreas Säger]

Am 15.07.2015 um 17:21 schrieb Ian Whitfield:
 Hi All
 
 I'm running two copies of LO Base here - and old one using HSQL embedded
 and a new one using MySQL.
 
 Firstly I notice is that if I sort the DB the sort only holds for the
 duration of the session. Is it possible to make a sort order stick.
 ie - I sort into Lastname then First Name and would like that to remain
 fixed.
 

SELECT * FROM Table ORDER BY what,you,want

 Second on the new MySQL version the Tick Boxes come out very small. Is
 it possible to enlarge these at all?
 

The database engine (MySQL) has zero influence on the tick boxes.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office - Problems Working With Hebrew

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 22/06/2015 10:05, ושדי יהעוז a écrit :

Hi Yaoz,


 In My organization we use Word files That  written in Hebrew. We have some 
 problems While working on those files , such as :
 
 1.  fonts Type  changing in Some of the Files .
 
 2.   page direction turning  from rtl to ltr .
 
 3.  text becomes gibberish .
 
 4.   Line numbering Format turns from alphabetic to numbers .
 

Most, if not all, of these problems are probably already entered into
the LibreOffice projects bugzilla. Some of the currently known bugs with
Hebrew are indicated in the following link:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=hebrew


This should give you an idea of the state of play as it stands today.

 
 We Use Libre Office 4.2.4 Running  On Windows 7 x86
 

I would try upgrading the version of LibreOffice you use to one that is
more current - 4.2.x is already end-of-life, and 4.3.x (current stable
production versions) will also soon be end-of-life.

LibreOffice 4.4.x is considered the current stable version, although
it still has many RTL bugs.

Future LibreOffice 5.0 has been released as a release candidate.

I suggest you try them out, to see which suits your needs better.


Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 4.4

[julien2412]

TR-2 wrote
 ...
 Cannot Copy or Move sheet from the edit menu -
 ...

Hi,

In Edit Menu, Sheet then you've got Move/Copy

For the rest, I don't know

Julien



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 4.4

[Pedro]

TR-2 wrote
 cannot change the Recent Files view page - would like not to have the 
 default page showing the file thumbnails.

Unfortunately that is _not_ an option. 

But there is a workaround in a request to add such an option
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 4.2.0 as windows service on windows server 2008 R2 Server Issue

[Andreas Säger]

Am 16.04.2015 um 14:24 schrieb Anil Wale:
 Hi Support Team,
 
   We are trying to setup Libre Office as windows service on windows server 
 2008 R2 Server, using following entry on regedit, but after this service not 
 get started.
 
 C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program\ soffice.exe -headless 
 -nofirststartwizard 
 -accept=socket,host=localhost,port=8100;urp;StarOffice.Service
 
 Can you please help me to setup LibreOffice_4.2.0 as a windows service or 
 please send me steps.
 
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Windows can not even start a simple Java program as a service. I think
this is intentional. Help yourself with some auto-start scripts.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 4.4.1.2 install error Files in Use

[Andreas Säger]

Am 12.03.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Sabine Gonelli:
 Hi,
 
 I have tried to install Libre Office 4.4.1.2 Win x 86 (English Version)
 several times now. When installing it tells me:
 
 Files in Use. Some files that need to be updated are currently in use. The
 following applications are using files that need to be updated by this
 setup. Close these applications and click Retry to continue.
 

This indicates clearly that you try to install LibreOffice over an
already running LibreOffice. You need to shut down any instance of
LibreOffice.
After you closed all office windows, there may be an icon near the
clock. Right-click that thingy and choose to exit.

Alternatively, hit Ctrl+Shift+Delete, choose the Process Manager and
stop all running processes with soffice in the name.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre office

[Andreas Säger]

Am 20.11.2014 um 21:20 schrieb fred.spurr...@talktalk.net:
 Can you please tell me which type of documents WRITER will read. e.g.
 Word, Works,? Open office,PDF etc.
 Thank you for your help
 Fred
 
 

menu:FileOpen...
see the list of file types

The list of types in menu:FileSave As... shows the file types that can
be opened and saved.

The file types in menu:FileExport... shows file types that can be saved
but not opened.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre office

[Luuk]

On 20-11-2014 21:49, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 20.11.2014 um 21:20 schrieb fred.spurr...@talktalk.net:

Can you please tell me which type of documents WRITER will read. e.g.
Word, Works,? Open office,PDF etc.
Thank you for your help
Fred




menu:FileOpen...
see the list of file types

The list of types in menu:FileSave As... shows the file types that can
be opened and saved.

The file types in menu:FileExport... shows file types that can be saved
but not opened.





a list of extensions + names..


602 txt T602 Document
abw zabw AbiWord Document
cwk ClarisWorks/AppleWorks Document
doc Microsoft WinWord 5
doc Microsoft Word 6.0
doc Microsoft Word 95
doc Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP/2003
doc Microsoft Word for Mac (v1 - v5)
docx docm Office Open XML Text Document
dot MS Word 95 Template
dot MS Word 97/2000 Template
dotx dotm
dotx dotm Office Open XML Text Template
Help content
hqx zip DOCMaker (v4) Document
hqx zip eDOC (v2) Document
hqx zip LightWayText for Mac v4.5
hqx zip Nisus Writer Mac Classic v3.4 - 6.5
hqx zip TeachText/SimpleText v1 Document
hqx zip Tex-Edit v2 Document
hqx zip Z-Write 1.3 Document
hwp Hangul WP 97
lwp LotusWordPro Document
mwd Mariner Write Mac Classic v1.6 - v3.5
mw mcw MacWrite Document
mw mcw MacWriteII or MacWritePro Document
odm Writer 8 Master Document
odt Writer 8
oth Writer/Web 8 Template
ott Writer 8 Template
rtf Rich Text Format
stw Writer 6.0 Template
stw Writer/Web 6.0 Template
sxg Writer 6.0 Master Document
sxw OpenOffice.org 1.0 Text Document
wn nx^d WriteNow Document
wpd WordPerfect Document
wps Microsoft Works Document
wps Microsoft Works for Mac Document (v1 - v4)
xml DocBook
xml doc Microsoft Word 2003 XML
xml Writer Layout Dump


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre office

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The problem is that not all of those formats are consistent all the time.
Where any of those formats have many different implementations in different
programs, or different versions of the same programs then LibreOffice (and
OpenOffice) tends to be one of the best around.

Some LibreOffice users have been able to help colleagues share files
between different versions of MS Office where their colleagues struggled to
share directly with each other.  Direct sharing of files between different
versions of MS Office is a little hampered by the differences in the
transitional specs for 'docX' in MS Office 2007, 2010, 2013 and 365 -
none of which seems happy to open 'strict' OOXML (unlike LibreOffice (and
other non-MS programssuites) which handles strict DocX fine too).

Regards from
Tom :)



On 20 November 2014 21:30, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 20-11-2014 21:49, Andreas Säger wrote:

 Am 20.11.2014 um 21:20 schrieb fred.spurr...@talktalk.net:

 Can you please tell me which type of documents WRITER will read. e.g.
 Word, Works,? Open office,PDF etc.
 Thank you for your help
 Fred



 menu:FileOpen...
 see the list of file types

 The list of types in menu:FileSave As... shows the file types that can
 be opened and saved.

 The file types in menu:FileExport... shows file types that can be saved
 but not opened.




 a list of extensions + names..


 602 txt T602 Document
 abw zabw AbiWord Document
 cwk ClarisWorks/AppleWorks Document
 doc Microsoft WinWord 5
 doc Microsoft Word 6.0
 doc Microsoft Word 95
 doc Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP/2003
 doc Microsoft Word for Mac (v1 - v5)
 docx docm Office Open XML Text Document
 dot MS Word 95 Template
 dot MS Word 97/2000 Template
 dotx dotm
 dotx dotm Office Open XML Text Template
 Help content
 hqx zip DOCMaker (v4) Document
 hqx zip eDOC (v2) Document
 hqx zip LightWayText for Mac v4.5
 hqx zip Nisus Writer Mac Classic v3.4 - 6.5
 hqx zip TeachText/SimpleText v1 Document
 hqx zip Tex-Edit v2 Document
 hqx zip Z-Write 1.3 Document
 hwp Hangul WP 97
 lwp LotusWordPro Document
 mwd Mariner Write Mac Classic v1.6 - v3.5
 mw mcw MacWrite Document
 mw mcw MacWriteII or MacWritePro Document
 odm Writer 8 Master Document
 odt Writer 8
 oth Writer/Web 8 Template
 ott Writer 8 Template
 rtf Rich Text Format
 stw Writer 6.0 Template
 stw Writer/Web 6.0 Template
 sxg Writer 6.0 Master Document
 sxw OpenOffice.org 1.0 Text Document
 wn nx^d WriteNow Document
 wpd WordPerfect Document
 wps Microsoft Works Document
 wps Microsoft Works for Mac Document (v1 - v4)
 xml DocBook
 xml doc Microsoft Word 2003 XML
 xml Writer Layout Dump



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[libreoffice-users] RE: Libre Office 4 and MS Sysprep

[V Stuart Foote]

John,

Hmm, not sure that in Windows 7 using Sysprep and using WAIK to prepare a 
CopyProfile=true  Specialize stanza into a filename.xml reliably overwrites 
the default user run from any user other than the Administrator account running 
in Audit mode.

Not sure what happens with file associations and per program user 
configurations if you use an account other than Administrator in Audit mode.   
But my sysprep.exe /generalize /oobe /unattend:filename.xml  SYSPREPs prior to 
image capture seems to behave pretty well with customizations done in audit 
mode being copied into a new default user profile and apps running correctly. 
Only a few issues with occasional linkage to 
C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming for program configuration and temp 
space--but not LibreOffice.

I've had no problems with desktop icons placed on the C:\Users\Public\Desktop

On the file association side, I don't deploy with LibreOffice set as default 
for anything but its native ODF formats, so I can't comment there about 
SYSPREPs impact, not too surprised  if MS allows SYSPREP to clobber some file 
associations. And, there are continuing problems with the LibreOffice file 
associations that make the whole issue kind of dicey.  We have an enhancement 
request in place for a File Association Manager for Windows builds of 
LibreOffice (fdo#44462 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44462 )

Stuart





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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 4 and MS Sysprep

I have created an image of Windows 7 x64 and LO4 using sysprep. Sysprep is 
setup to copy the current user to the default profile yet all preconfigured 
settings are gone and desktop icons have disappeared when the system comes back 
up. Other desktop icons/settings make it through this process fine but Libre 
seems to revert to a generic default install. Is this by design or are there 
special steps I need to take during the sysprep process?

Basically what I would like is for all LO programs to have their default save 
type as their Microsoft equivalents and icons on the desktop already setup in 
the default user so that whoever logs in is basically ready to go. I know LO 
pushes ODF but until we get a larger portion of our population changed over 
this is the most realistic for us. Any help would be great!

Thanks,
John

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 19/12/12 21:29, Chris Heath a écrit :

Hi Chris,


 When I load Libre Base with an existing database I can edit and save the
 database but Libre will not close without forcing it using Windows Task
 Manager.  No data is lost but Libre will not close down properly.
 
 This problem does not appear to occur in Writer but I have not tested
 the other windows.
 

Can't help you with your problem, I currently have the same on Mac OSX
10.8.2, but with a daily master build, so I expect strange things like
that. However, it might be worthwhile your opening a bug report against
the behaviour, or at least searching bugzilla to see if someone else
hasn't already come across this, and then adding your own comments to it.





Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: libre office calc spreadsheet function question

[eddie arni]

I figured out how to convert the values in each of the cells at the same
time, using the paste special function.

Another question relating to the last post:

Why use =C7*$A$4 rather than =C7*A4?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: libre office calc spreadsheet function question

[Jay Lozier]

On 11/20/2012 10:16 AM, eddie arni wrote:

I figured out how to convert the values in each of the cells at the same
time, using the paste special function.

Another question relating to the last post:

Why use =C7*$A$4 rather than =C7*A4?
If you are copying and pasting or using fill down the references 
increment according to the new location. If you need to reference the 
same cell you must use $A$1 to tell Calc (or any spreadsheet) that this 
cell reference does not change when pasting or filling down.


For a column of entries to be multiplied by a constant I have two 
choices. I can enter the constant into each formula or use an absolute 
reference to the cell where the constant's value is entered. The latter 
is generally a better technique because any time you need to change the 
value you only need to make one entry and all the calculations are 
automatically updated.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre office using MSVCR90.dll cause Explorer to crash?

[Andreas Säger]

[Solved] Dynamic link library MSVCR90.dll missing
 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=46996




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Pastel Painter]

Thank you everyone for trying to help. I must have downloaded a bug. It
turned out that somehow under system settings, the printer settings were set
at 6 per page.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Pastel Painter]

Thanks for responding to my question. I have been using LibreOffice for quite
a while and have just recently encountered this problem. I was wondering if
it was because of operating system updates.

I am using Ubuntu Linux, Libre Office 3.5.3.2.  The ruler is on in the
editing mode and it shows that I have a full 8.5 x 11 page document. When I
check the document in print preview, it looks like what I want - a full
page. So I think that I have not accidentally clicked on something to make
it print so small, but maybe I am wrong.  

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

Please confirm that other programs are printing correctly.
That is that Ubuntu Printer Settings are correct.

Thanks

On 7/6/2012 8:03 AM, Pastel Painter wrote:

Thanks for responding to my question. I have been using LibreOffice for quite
a while and have just recently encountered this problem. I was wondering if
it was because of operating system updates.

I am using Ubuntu Linux, Libre Office 3.5.3.2.  The ruler is on in the
editing mode and it shows that I have a full 8.5 x 11 page document. When I
check the document in print preview, it looks like what I want - a full
page. So I think that I have not accidentally clicked on something to make
it print so small, but maybe I am wrong.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Pastel Painter schrieb:

Thanks for responding to my question. I have been using LibreOffice
for quite a while and have just recently encountered this problem. I
was wondering if it was because of operating system updates.

I am using Ubuntu Linux, Libre Office 3.5.3.2.  The ruler is on in
the editing mode and it shows that I have a full 8.5 x 11 page
document.  When I check the document in print preview, it looks like
what I want - a full page. So I think that I have not accidentally
clicked on something to make it print so small, but maybe I am
wrong.


I do not speak of the page size you have set, but the paper size, which 
the printer reports. Please go to File  Print and look, what size do 
you see in the preview. Have a look at

 http://tempim.de/picture/details/34567/screenshotdruckdialogq.png
 to see, what information I mean.

Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Pastel Painter]

When I print from the internet, the articles print to full page. I also
printed a test page from my printer and it printed correctly. I tried
printing Writer documents and Calc documents, both came out about 1/8 of the
original size. In the print menu, it shows that my document is 8.5 x 11.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Pastel Painter]

I also tested a document that I downloaded - a newsletter - created by
someone else. It printed to the correct size. It appears that just my
LibreOffice documents are affected.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office printing documents 1/8 of original size and in landscape mode - Help

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Pastel Painter schrieb:

I also tested a document that I downloaded - a newsletter - created
by someone else. It printed to the correct size. It appears that just
my LibreOffice documents are affected.



Do you follow the guide Setting up Printer and Fax Under UNIX Based 
Platforms from the help?


Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] Re: libre office and microsoft office access

[Andreas Säger]

The required database drivers come from Microsoft. Microsoft will never
pubilish these drivers for Linux. Let Access export your data to dBase,
connect one Base document to the dBase tables, another Base document to your
preferred database (MySQL for instance) and copy over the dBase tables to
some other database. 
The embedded database must not be used for anything but demos and drafts. 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office brings my system down

[Stefan Dröge]

In the meantime I also tried 3.5, but the same problems occur there.
It might have something to do with hardware acceleration /
antialiasing. At least I found several posts in different forums whith
users who have the same problems.
In one forum someone stated that disabling Antialiasing and Hardware
Acceleration helped. I will try this.
I also found several bugreports which document similar problems.

Bugreports:
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40141
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41279
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35056

Forum posts:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47t=77851start=0
(German) 
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/5873987/os_11.4kde4_hartnaeckige_haenger
(German) 
http://www.nickles.de/forum/linux-contra-monopole/2011/natty-libre-probleme-538833999.html

- Stefan


2012/1/11 Stefan Dröge ste...@sdroege.de:
 Hi all, since a long time I experience really annoying crashes of
 LibreOffice that bring my complete system (Linux) down.
 The symptoms are:
 - Everything stops, only the mouse cursor is still movable (however the
 cursor Icon stays in the last state)
 - I can't even switch to the console (Ctrl+F1 for example), Ctrl+Backspace
 doesn't work either
 - No harddisk actions can be heared
 - The system only responds to Magic SysRq keys

 So the system seems to be completely dead.

 I experience these problems since a longer time. I tried LO 3.3.4 as well as
 3.4.4
 I tried it on Kubuntu and openSuse (KDE), both 64 bit.

 If I remember correctly, the crash occured when I drag an object in a
 document. It doesn't happen every time.

 Has anybody else experienced these issues? Which information can I provide
 to you to investigate?

 Kind regards, Stefan

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office brings my system down

[NoOp]

On 01/11/2012 07:56 AM, Stefan Dröge wrote:
 Hi all, since a long time I experience really annoying crashes of
 LibreOffice that bring my complete system (Linux) down.
 The symptoms are:
 - Everything stops, only the mouse cursor is still movable (however the
 cursor Icon stays in the last state)
 - I can't even switch to the console (Ctrl+F1 for example), Ctrl+Backspace
 doesn't work either
 - No harddisk actions can be heared
 - The system only responds to Magic SysRq keys
 
 So the system seems to be completely dead.
 
 I experience these problems since a longer time. I tried LO 3.3.4 as well
 as 3.4.4
 I tried it on Kubuntu and openSuse (KDE), both 64 bit.
 
 If I remember correctly, the crash occured when I drag an object in a
 document. It doesn't happen every time.
 
 Has anybody else experienced these issues? Which information can I provide
 to you to investigate?
 
 Kind regards, Stefan
 

Which video chip  driver are you using? Can you please provide the vga
section of:

$ sudo lspci -v

(only the graphics section please)




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office brings my system down

[Tom]

Hi :)
Have you tried renaming the User Profile to see if that has an effect?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

Also which version of java are you using?  Any more recent than 6_24 often
causes the types of problems you describe.  Can you switch off java
completely
Tools - Options - Java
or does LO grumble when you do that?
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office in IOS5?

[Tinkerer]

Krackedpress

The iPad2 has 32GB of storage plus whatever you want to pay for in iCloud.
I was not thinking of using USB sticks as you cannot connect them directly
to an iPad.
Transfers would be made through Sync or iCloud.
The only problem I see is obtaining a version that will run on the IOS5
system.

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[Séamas Ó Brógáin]

NoOp wrote:

 ... Let me know if I can be of help. Bugzilla requires that cookies be
 enabled, so make sure that you have those turned on in your browser.
 Nothing else special is required (no Java, Flash etc).

Ah, that’s what it was. I should have thought of that. I have them
blocked permanently.

In the meantime I have reinstalled version 3.3.4, and everything works.

Thanks again for the help. Without this list I would have been out of
business, or out of my mind, or both.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[NoOp]

On 11/13/2011 10:16 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 This guide might help?
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_strace_log_.28on_Linux.29
 It's beyond me but hopefully makes sense.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.

 
 So this appears to be a another regression between 3.3.4 and 3.4.x.
 
 Can anyone remind me how to get an strace w/LO?
 
 
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[NoOp]

On 11/14/2011 04:08 AM, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:
 Steve wrote:
 
 When you paste from the docx, can you try paste special, unformatted
 text and gain success.
 
 That’s what I normally do, and I’m sure I did it on this occasion.
 
 Can you paste the text from docx into a file, save and view it with
 ghexedit to identify the character.
 You might be able to paste the character in here to find some info.
 http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%C9%
 ACpreview=entity
 
 Thanks for the tip about ghexedit. I didn’t know about that. It seems
 that the offending character is 000A, which is simply a line feed. I’ve
 dealt with these before: in fact I have a routine that includes
 converting them all to paragraph breaks beforehand (changing \n to \n in
 the mysterious way of regular expressions). I’m not sure that I did it
 with this one, though.
 
 NoOp: Thanks for the information about the bug report. It seems pretty
 certain that my problem is related. (I tried to add to the bug report
 and created a Bugzilla account but the interface defeated me, and my
 comment didn’t get through.)
...
Let me know if I can be of help. Bugzilla requires that cookies be
enabled, so make sure that you have those turned on in your browser.
Nothing else special is required (no Java, Flash etc).

Just ran across yet another case of a .docx crashing LO and OOo-dev:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.general/57343
[Problem with the Open Office Text Processing]

The file can be downloaded by right clicking Dr. Kostopoulos'
attachement. It will download as a .bin file - just rename it to a .docx
file.
http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/comp/openoffice/general/57343-001.bin

1. OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo Ubuntu distribution build linux)
OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1.

The file opens properly and displays 7 full pages of text including
References and Biography etc., with no problem.

2. OOo-Dev (standard build linux)
OOo-dev 3.4.0
DEV300m106 (Build:9582)

Crashes OOo immediately  leaves a lock file in place.

3. LibreOffice 3.3.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.

Crashes LO immediately  leaves a lock file in place.

4. LibreOffice 3.4.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402)

Crashes LO immediately  leaves a lock file in place.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[NoOp]

On 11/13/2011 02:07 PM, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:
 Hello, Jay.
 
 I should have said that it’s in Writer only. I’m using Libre Office
 3.4.3 (build 302), from the Ubuntu repository. I’m using Gnome Classic,
 not Unity (and on a fairly dated computer).
 
 Today was a disaster, but also may have led to a discovery. Having tried
 everything else, I resorted to purging Libre Office altogether from my
 computer and reinstalling from scratch. Same problem.
 
 Going on the supposition that the problem was specific to a particular
 document, I reconstructed the complex document I was working on,
 starting with a new layout, styles, and all the components copied from
 various places. That took me most of the day (and I’m not finished yet).
 Everything seemed to be working properly now; then, when I copied in the
 text from one particular file (a .docx file that I received from someone
 else), the problem began again.
 
 I noticed what seemed to be a space at the end of each paragraph (which,
 incidentally, is a very common feature of Microsoft files copied into
 Open Office or Libre Office). Now, though, the application would quit
 every time I tried to delete one by backspacing over it or using the
 delete key. After many failures I managed to get rid of them all (I
 hope) by selecting “cut” from the menu, or pasting other text over the
 mystery space.
 
 I saved one of these characters and pasted it into Character Map to see
 if I could identify it (and so be able to search for it in the future),
 but it won’t allow me to paste it in.
 
 If this is the source of the problem (and of course I don’t know for
 certain that it is) I would hardly expect an application to quit because
 of the presence a particular invisible character.
 
 That’s today’s episode of the saga!

Perhaps you're running into this bug:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639
[EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting]
Note: I've not tried to replicate (yet).





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[NoOp]

On 11/13/2011 03:22 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 
 Perhaps you're running into this bug:
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639
 [EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting]
 Note: I've not tried to replicate (yet).

I just tested and added to the bug report:

Confirmed w/LO 3.4.4 (linux - deb build):
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402)

Works w/LO 3.3.4 (linux - deb build):
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.

So this appears to be a another regression between 3.3.4 and 3.4.x.

Can anyone remind me how to get an strace w/LO?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
This guide might help?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_strace_log_.28on_Linux.29
It's beyond me but hopefully makes sense.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office quitting
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 13 November, 2011, 23:32

On 11/13/2011 03:22 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 
 Perhaps you're running into this bug:
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639
 [EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting]
 Note: I've not tried to replicate (yet).

I just tested and added to the bug report:

Confirmed w/LO 3.4.4 (linux - deb build):
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402)

Works w/LO 3.3.4 (linux - deb build):
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.

So this appears to be a another regression between 3.3.4 and 3.4.x.

Can anyone remind me how to get an strace w/LO?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[maxo]

The things that are notable are:

1) The stonetest.odg created in Libreoffice loads, displays, and  prints
correctly in Openoffice 3.2. 
 
2) It prints incorrectly in two different windows operating systems on two
different printers (so it's not a specific driver issue).

3) The libra office exported PDF exports and displays and prints correctly.

It has to be a bug introduced to the printer rendering engine between 3.2
and 3.4.2.

I can't get a libreoffice 3.2 to test.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

LibreOffice started out with its first version numbered 3.3.0, so no 3.2 
version.


I do not have a 3.3.x version installed to test that line.  On 3.4.1 - 
64-bit Ubuntu - Export to PDF has jagged image issues.


Printing to the CUPS-PDF [and two different inkjet printers] show smooth 
[not jagged] outlines, but the background image outlined but not filled 
in with any color.




On 08/27/2011 01:32 PM, maxo wrote:

The things that are notable are:

1) The stonetest.odg created in Libreoffice loads, displays, and  prints
correctly in Openoffice 3.2.

2) It prints incorrectly in two different windows operating systems on two
different printers (so it's not a specific driver issue).

3) The libra office exported PDF exports and displays and prints correctly.

It has to be a bug introduced to the printer rendering engine between 3.2
and 3.4.2.

I can't get a libreoffice 3.2 to test.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[maxo]

I looked and saw no similar bugs so I created bug 40421.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40421

Thanks for your feedback and suggestions.  The PDF suggestion gives me a
work around until this is fixed.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
That sounds good for a bug-report
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

If there is already a similar bug-report then could you add a comment now that 
you have pinned it down a bit more?  Now that you have a few images to work 
with 
have you tried transparency on all of them?  Do you get the same problem?  Can 
you pin it down further?

The bug-reporting guide might help you collect error reports or logs of what is 
happening.  Are you saving in an OpenDocument format (apart from the Pdf)?  If 
so then you might be able to make a copy of the files and change the 
file-ending 
on the copy to .zip and then open that as tho it was a normal compressed/zipped 
file.  The different image files in there might show something interesting.

Good work, it feels like you are getting closer to finding out the problem :)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: maxo stephenmcl...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 26 August, 2011 6:44:51
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

I could post this to the openoffice site, they have attached documents there.

I exported this as a PDF (it exported correctly).
I printed the PDF, it printed fine.  All the curves were curved.

I created a new drawing.  Simply a filled (bitmap stone) curvy shape- one
layer.  
It printed fine.

I cut and pasted the curvy shape, changed it to bitmap gravel, and set it to
50% transparent.
Both layers printed jaggy.

I removed the transparency and it printed fine again (still with two layers)

I turned back on transparency in the top layer and it printed jaggy again.

It's like the transparency is what kills the curves.

Attaching the file...
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3285920/stonetest.odg
stonetest.odg 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

Is this the file with or without the transparent set?

I used LO 3.4.1 on Ubuntu-Linux to test the file.

For me, using using the Export to PDF gave me the jaggy image.  It 
also gave me a dialog box about removing the Transparency. But using the 
CUP-PDF printer for Ubuntu, I get the smooth curves, but the bottom 
layer's color does not show, just the curved outline.


Are you using Windows?  If you are, install doPDF PDF printer.  This is 
free and is my default printer on my Vista Laptop.  See if you get the 
proper look printing your Draw documents with doPDF printer [as one of 
the available printers in your printer list].  If you get a different 
look with doPDF vs. Export to PDF in Draw, then the programmers will 
have more info needed to fix the issue.




On 08/26/2011 01:44 AM, maxo wrote:

I could post this to the openoffice site, they have attached documents there.

I exported this as a PDF (it exported correctly).
I printed the PDF, it printed fine.  All the curves were curved.

I created a new drawing.  Simply a filled (bitmap stone) curvy shape- one
layer.
It printed fine.

I cut and pasted the curvy shape, changed it to bitmap gravel, and set it to
50% transparent.
Both layers printed jaggy.

I removed the transparency and it printed fine again (still with two layers)

I turned back on transparency in the top layer and it printed jaggy again.

It's like the transparency is what kills the curves.

Attaching the file...
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3285920/stonetest.odg
stonetest.odg


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[NoOp]

On 08/26/2011 10:06 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/25/2011 10:44 PM, maxo wrote:
 I could post this to the openoffice site, they have attached documents there.
 
 I exported this as a PDF (it exported correctly).
 I printed the PDF, it printed fine.  All the curves were curved.
 
 I created a new drawing.  Simply a filled (bitmap stone) curvy shape- one
 layer.  
 It printed fine.
 
 I cut and pasted the curvy shape, changed it to bitmap gravel, and set it to
 50% transparent.
 Both layers printed jaggy.
 
 I removed the transparency and it printed fine again (still with two layers)
 
 I turned back on transparency in the top layer and it printed jaggy again.
 
 It's like the transparency is what kills the curves.
 
 Attaching the file...
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3285920/stonetest.odg
 stonetest.odg 
 ...
 I exported as PDF/A in both 3.3.4 and 3.4.2 (linux). PDF/A mode removes
 transparency and prints as an image. In 3.3.4 the image is fine, in
 3.4.2 the image is not and the curves are pointed.
 
 I then printed to a cups-pdf printer:
 
 3.3.4 - fine  no problem.
 3.4.2 - Acrobat Reader 9.4.2 (linux): An error exists on this page.
 Acrobat may not display the image correctly. Please contact the person
 who created the PDF document to correct the problem.
...
Correction: Adobe Reader 9.4.2.
Sorry, forgot to add that the 3.4.2 image does come up in Adobe Reader
after the error message. However the image is of both layers with no
gradients; bottom is clear outline, top is blue with stone surface.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[maxo]

I could post this to the openoffice site, they have attached documents there.

I exported this as a PDF (it exported correctly).
I printed the PDF, it printed fine.  All the curves were curved.

I created a new drawing.  Simply a filled (bitmap stone) curvy shape- one
layer.  
It printed fine.

I cut and pasted the curvy shape, changed it to bitmap gravel, and set it to
50% transparent.
Both layers printed jaggy.

I removed the transparency and it printed fine again (still with two layers)

I turned back on transparency in the top layer and it printed jaggy again.

It's like the transparency is what kills the curves.

Attaching the file...
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3285920/stonetest.odg
stonetest.odg 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[maxo]

3.4.2 LO and Win 7, Win XP.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

[NoOp]

On 08/24/2011 05:32 PM, maxo wrote:
 3.4.2 LO and Win 7, Win XP.
 

Can you post the file someplace so that others can test? I can test in
OOo (various versions) and LO (various versions) in both linux  Windows.

Also have a look through:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=draw

Note: you can refine the search, but good luck...




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Nuno J. Silva]

On 2011-08-12, David H. Lipman wrote:

 Many of the MS MVPs I know aren't swayed by Microsoft and suggest *best* 
 solutions that 
 may not be a Microsoft solution.

Yeah, I'm not surprised to see an MVP giving a good answer. Now if it
were an MPM, then I would really be surprised.

http://www.unix.com/whats-your-mind/33991-windows-korn-shell.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended on MicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[jebw...@gmail.com]

There's a good possibility the LO recommendation being due to the Gates 
- Ellison feud.  Ellison owns Oracle. Oracle owns OO.  Most know more 
about OO then they do LO.  Hence the reason for MS's LO recommendation. 
Then there's the 900lb Gorilla factor:  LO is cost free.  OO looks like 
it's going to be a for $$$ item at Oracle.




On 8/12/2011 9:36 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:

From: upscopeupsc...@nwi.net


On Thursday, August 11, 2011 03:07:54 PM Stan Goodman wrote:

On Friday 12 August 2011 00:22:12 planas wrote:

On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 20:59 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 11/08/2011 20:43, planas wrote:

Gordon

On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 20:24 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

Yes it's true!
I see this more and more - LO being recommended to people
who've bought a computer with a Trial version of Office 2010
that's expired...

+1

Where is this happening?

here's one thread:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-window
s_
install/have-windows-7-on-computer-try-and-open-a-doc-and/166d69
8d- b3a0-4a56-9dee-1fb0aba2a3a9

By an MVP no less!

Priceless - getting a plug from the enemy's camp.

The logical next step is for somebody to reply to that helpful hint,
and suggest that the fellow go the whole hog and dump his Win7
altogether.

+5 that's what I did 12 years ago when my Win ME died.

LOL - Not quite 12 years as it came out in 2000 (Windows Millennium) and you 
probably got
WinME after that  ;-)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended on MicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Oracle managed to mishandle OOo so badly that they couldn't monetise it.  
Apparently IBM pushed Oracle into donating OOo to The Apache Foundation a few 
weeks ago.  


There are Apache people in TDF (and some TDF in Apache) lists to help the 2 
projects work together more closely and people are now allowed to work in both 
again.  It's  bit weird because Oracle is not particularly close to Apache so 
it's possible they were attempting to hamper Apache by giving them a poisoned 
pawn.  I don't think Oracle were expecting Apache to suddenly work with TDF, 
effectively draining the poison and making OOo much more viable.  Then IBM 
donated a lot of their Lotus code to Apache making OOo even more viable.  
OpenSource co-operative competition between projects beat the proprietary 
mind-set again.  


Most MS people are probably very unaware of these rapid changes that have taken 
place in the last few weeks so they probably do think they are fighting 
Oracle's OOo by suggesting LibreOffice instead.  Still, it's probably best 
not 
to inform them because they seldom appreciate being given better intel 
especially if it's not directly from MS.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: jebw...@gmail.com jebw...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 19:06:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended on 
MicrosoftAnswers Forums!

There's a good possibility the LO recommendation being due to the Gates - 
Ellison feud.  Ellison owns Oracle. Oracle owns OO.  Most know more about OO 
then they do LO.  Hence the reason for MS's LO recommendation. Then there's the 
900lb Gorilla factor:  LO is cost free.  OO looks like it's going to be a for 
$$$ item at Oracle.



On 8/12/2011 9:36 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
 From: upscopeupsc...@nwi.net
 
 On Thursday, August 11, 2011 03:07:54 PM Stan Goodman wrote:
 On Friday 12 August 2011 00:22:12 planas wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 20:59 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On 11/08/2011 20:43, planas wrote:
 Gordon
 
 On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 20:24 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 Yes it's true!
 I see this more and more - LO being recommended to people
 who've bought a computer with a Trial version of Office 2010
 that's expired...
 +1
 
 Where is this happening?
 here's one thread:
 http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-window
 s_
 install/have-windows-7-on-computer-try-and-open-a-doc-and/166d69
 8d- b3a0-4a56-9dee-1fb0aba2a3a9
 
 By an MVP no less!
 Priceless - getting a plug from the enemy's camp.
 The logical next step is for somebody to reply to that helpful hint,
 and suggest that the fellow go the whole hog and dump his Win7
 altogether.
 +5 that's what I did 12 years ago when my Win ME died.
 LOL - Not quite 12 years as it came out in 2000 (Windows Millennium) and you 
probably got
 WinME after that  ;-)
 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[David H. Lipman]

From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Oracle managed to mishandle OOo so badly that they couldn't monetise it.
 Apparently IBM pushed Oracle into donating OOo to The Apache Foundation a few
 weeks ago.

 There are Apache people in TDF (and some TDF in Apache) lists to help the 2
 projects work together more closely and people are now allowed to work in both
 again.  It's  bit weird because Oracle is not particularly close to Apache so
 it's possible they were attempting to hamper Apache by giving them a poisoned
 pawn.  I don't think Oracle were expecting Apache to suddenly work with TDF,
 effectively draining the poison and making OOo much more viable.  Then IBM
 donated a lot of their Lotus code to Apache making OOo even more viable.
 OpenSource co-operative competition between projects beat the proprietary
 mind-set again.

 Most MS people are probably very unaware of these rapid changes that have 
 taken
 place in the last few weeks so they probably do think they are fighting
 Oracle's OOo by suggesting LibreOffice instead.  Still, it's probably best 
 not
 to inform them because they seldom appreciate being given better intel
 especially if it's not directly from MS.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Many of the MS MVPs I know aren't swayed by Microsoft and suggest *best* 
solutions that 
may not be a Microsoft solution.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Tom Davies]

Wow! 
They sound interesting.  I am getting the impression that most people in 
OpenSource projects have a similar role although we usually have more control 
over how deeply involved we get and in which parts of the project.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: David H. Lipman dlip...@verizon.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 20:21:53
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended 
onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Oracle managed to mishandle OOo so badly that they couldn't monetise it.
 Apparently IBM pushed Oracle into donating OOo to The Apache Foundation a few
 weeks ago.

 There are Apache people in TDF (and some TDF in Apache) lists to help the 2
 projects work together more closely and people are now allowed to work in both
 again.  It's  bit weird because Oracle is not particularly close to Apache so
 it's possible they were attempting to hamper Apache by giving them a poisoned
 pawn.  I don't think Oracle were expecting Apache to suddenly work with TDF,
 effectively draining the poison and making OOo much more viable.  Then IBM
 donated a lot of their Lotus code to Apache making OOo even more viable.
 OpenSource co-operative competition between projects beat the proprietary
 mind-set again.

 Most MS people are probably very unaware of these rapid changes that have 
taken
 place in the last few weeks so they probably do think they are fighting
 Oracle's OOo by suggesting LibreOffice instead.  Still, it's probably best 
not
 to inform them because they seldom appreciate being given better intel
 especially if it's not directly from MS.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Many of the MS MVPs I know aren't swayed by Microsoft and suggest *best* 
solutions that 

may not be a Microsoft solution.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Andy Brown]

David H. Lipman wrote:

From: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
Oracle managed to mishandle OOo so badly that they couldn't monetise it.
Apparently IBM pushed Oracle into donating OOo to The Apache Foundation a few
weeks ago.

There are Apache people in TDF (and some TDF in Apache) lists to help the 2
projects work together more closely and people are now allowed to work in both
again.  It's  bit weird because Oracle is not particularly close to Apache so
it's possible they were attempting to hamper Apache by giving them a poisoned
pawn.  I don't think Oracle were expecting Apache to suddenly work with TDF,
effectively draining the poison and making OOo much more viable.  Then IBM
donated a lot of their Lotus code to Apache making OOo even more viable.
OpenSource co-operative competition between projects beat the proprietary
mind-set again.

Most MS people are probably very unaware of these rapid changes that have taken
place in the last few weeks so they probably do think they are fighting
Oracle's OOo by suggesting LibreOffice instead.  Still, it's probably best not
to inform them because they seldom appreciate being given better intel
especially if it's not directly from MS.
Regards from
Tom :)



Many of the MS MVPs I know aren't swayed by Microsoft and suggest *best* 
solutions that
may not be a Microsoft solution.


As has been done on the forums that I have seen.  It has been suggested 
many times that if a person needs 100% compatibility with MSO, use MSO. 
 Plain, simple and to the point.


Andy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Great idea and that is certainly the way MS would like it but sadly MS Office 
2010 documents often seem to go a little wrong in MS Office 2007 and 
vice-versa.  Earlier versions of MS Office can't read/write the format used by 
MS Office 2010 or 2007 at all without installing an extra patch.  It's not just 
a case of using MS Office but of using the 'right' version too.  It helps push 
people into buying the latest one and when the newer one comes out hesitate a 
little before everyone else gets it too.  Smart.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 22:57:07
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended 
onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

David H. Lipman wrote:
 From: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Oracle managed to mishandle OOo so badly that they couldn't monetise it.
 Apparently IBM pushed Oracle into donating OOo to The Apache Foundation a few
 weeks ago.

 There are Apache people in TDF (and some TDF in Apache) lists to help the 2
 projects work together more closely and people are now allowed to work in 
both
 again.  It's  bit weird because Oracle is not particularly close to Apache so
 it's possible they were attempting to hamper Apache by giving them a 
poisoned
 pawn.  I don't think Oracle were expecting Apache to suddenly work with TDF,
 effectively draining the poison and making OOo much more viable.  Then IBM
 donated a lot of their Lotus code to Apache making OOo even more viable.
 OpenSource co-operative competition between projects beat the proprietary
 mind-set again.

 Most MS people are probably very unaware of these rapid changes that have 
taken
 place in the last few weeks so they probably do think they are fighting
 Oracle's OOo by suggesting LibreOffice instead.  Still, it's probably best 
not
 to inform them because they seldom appreciate being given better intel
 especially if it's not directly from MS.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 Many of the MS MVPs I know aren't swayed by Microsoft and suggest *best* 
solutions that
 may not be a Microsoft solution.

As has been done on the forums that I have seen.  It has been suggested 
many times that if a person needs 100% compatibility with MSO, use MSO. 
  Plain, simple and to the point.

Andy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office being recommended onMicrosoftAnswers Forums!

[Andy Brown]

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Great idea and that is certainly the way MS would like it but sadly MS Office
2010 documents often seem to go a little wrong in MS Office 2007 and
vice-versa.  Earlier versions of MS Office can't read/write the format used by
MS Office 2010 or 2007 at all without installing an extra patch.  It's not just
a case of using MS Office but of using the 'right' version too.  It helps push
people into buying the latest one and when the newer one comes out hesitate a
little before everyone else gets it too.  Smart.
Regards from
Tom :)



All the facts are pointed out as well, like the incompatibility of some 
versions of MSO.  Of course that is how they make their money, vendor 
lock-in.  Which is also covered in the replies.


Andy


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[libreoffice-users] Re: libre-office calc page preview problem

[Rebeca]

Cor Nouws oolst at nouenoff.nl writes:

 
 Hi Nico,
 
 Nico van Vliet wrote (18-05-11 09:44)
 
  Using libreoffice 3.3.1 om opensuse 11.4
 
  I have a problem with calc.
  It seems that the View - Page Break Preview only works on sheet1
  sheet2 stays gray even if I type some thing on this sheet.
 
 Hmm, sorry that I cannot reproduce the problem.
 I tried 331rc2 and 340beta5 and the default Ubuntu version.
 However, as you can read, this is on Ubuntu.
 
  Would appreciate help here.
 
 I think the best is trying with a recent/default version.
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page/nl#Invoeren_en_Behandelen_van_Bugs
 
 Maybe it is solved there, and is the bug specific to the opensuse version?
 
 kind regards,
 Cor
 


Hi Nico,

I had the same problem but it was when I clicked on 'delete all manual breaks',
if you don´t touch that, I think it will be ok.

Now, I am still having problems with 'undisplayed calc page and header / footer
borders' this error was supposed to be fixed in version 3.4.1, but they are
still the same as when I had v. 3.4.0.

Please if you could know what the problem is, it will be very helpful for me.

Regards,

Rebk


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: libre-office calc page preview problem

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Try changing the colour from grey to something much more visible

Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Appearance

In the bottom box scroll down to Writer and change the various types of 
breaks 
to light red or something.  Then scroll further down to change the options for 
Calc.  Hopefully it's just been that slightly different shades of grey are 
difficult to distinguish from
each other!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Rebeca rebeca.cuel...@veeops.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 21:14:39
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: libre-office calc page preview problem

Cor Nouws oolst at nouenoff.nl writes:

 
 Hi Nico,
 
 Nico van Vliet wrote (18-05-11 09:44)
 
  Using libreoffice 3.3.1 om opensuse 11.4
 
  I have a problem with calc.
  It seems that the View - Page Break Preview only works on sheet1
  sheet2 stays gray even if I type some thing on this sheet.
 
 Hmm, sorry that I cannot reproduce the problem.
 I tried 331rc2 and 340beta5 and the default Ubuntu version.
 However, as you can read, this is on Ubuntu.
 
  Would appreciate help here.
 
 I think the best is trying with a recent/default version.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
 
 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page/nl#Invoeren_en_Behandelen_van_Bugs
 
 Maybe it is solved there, and is the bug specific to the opensuse version?
 
 kind regards,
 Cor
 


Hi Nico,

I had the same problem but it was when I clicked on 'delete all manual breaks',
if you don´t touch that, I think it will be ok.

Now, I am still having problems with 'undisplayed calc page and header / footer
borders' this error was supposed to be fixed in version 3.4.1, but they are
still the same as when I had v. 3.4.0.

Please if you could know what the problem is, it will be very helpful for me.

Regards,

Rebk


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Tinkerer]

When I open the Extension Manager it takes me to the UserDocuments folder
which is incorrect.
Sorry, LO 3.4 Build 5 is the correct version. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

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On 05/26/2011 04:08 PM, Tinkerer wrote:

When I open the Extension Manager it takes me to the UserDocuments folder
which is incorrect.
Sorry, LO 3.4 Build 5 is the correct version.

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For me it takes me to my timothy user folder for Ubuntu.
This is the default folder for the computer, like yours would be 
userdocuments

I keep all my .oxt files on a folder on a second physical drive.

My full path is:
big-drive/LibreOffice--folders/Non-DVD-related-folders/libreoffice-extensions-galleries-templates/LibreOffice__extensions-and-addons

where big-drive is the name for the second physical drive

I have no trouble adding any Extension in that folder, but actual 
extensions will be recorded in the hidden folder called 
.libreoffice/3/user/extensions/. . . . . ., if I remember correctly.  
There may be other folders involved, but I do not know where they are on 
my system [off hand].
















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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Cor Nouws]

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote (26-05-11 22:53)


I have no trouble adding any Extension in that folder, but actual
extensions will be recorded in the hidden folder called
.libreoffice/3/user/extensions/. . . . . ., if I remember correctly.


   the folders name is uno_packages.
But for the rest, your explanation is correct.

Regards,
Cor


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Tinkerer]

I have a Mac 10.6.7 and LO 3.4 Build 5.
Apparently PDF Import is not included.
My understanding is the list in Extension Manager is only a list with links
to the Extension or the Download.
My list includes about 20 languages and the local Help for Extension Manager
will not load, so I am stuck.
BTW. Where are the Extensions kept?

Tink.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Tinkerer]

Sorry.  The PDF Importer is part of the package.
If you look at the file types you can Open, you will see that PDF's are
included and it works.
I now need to find Convert Text to Numbers and the Grammar Checker
though I am not sure of their names.
There is a very obscure place for filing Templates, The Extension folder
seems to be even more obscure.

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Tom Davies]

From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 25 May, 2011 16:44:02
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

Hi Sigrid et al

Le 2011-05-25 11:18, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
 Hi Tom, all,

 On Wed, 25 May 2011 15:56:47 +0100 (BST)
 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think a lot of the Extension's devs haven't yet made them available for
 LibreOffice.  Apparently most/many/some of the OpenOffice ones work if you 
can
 find them but if you could contact the devs of your favourite Extensions then
 they would probably be quite keen to add them to LibreOffice's collection.  I
 have a feeling that it's usually pretty easy for the dev's of a particular
 Extension to add it to LibreOffice's lists but just requires remembering (or
 being nudged into remembering) to do it.  I doubt that it's possible to do 
them
 all from the LibreOffice's end otherwise it would probably have been done
 en-masse already.

 I think the reason for not having those extensions transferred 
 automatically 
was due to licensing reasons. I think I remember, that LibO only wants to have 
truly open extensions. But I can be wrong. :)

  Yes, this is the problem with both the extensions and templates. Even 
worse, many of these extensions only carried the author's name with no 
email or url to track them down.

Cheers

Marc


Hi :)
Google or FaceBook can be alarmingly good at finding people, unless they have a 
common name such as Tom Davies, John Smith and even worse if they don't have a 
FaceBook account ;)  I googled myself but got bored after 6 pages of people 
with 
my name.  I haven't joined FaceBook as i don't need to show-off how many 
friends (acquaintances?) i don't/do have ;)  

Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Tinkerer]

Many thanks for the links.
I have downloaded them, but where on my Mac, Snow Leopard, do I put them so
that LO 3.4.5 will find them?

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
I down loaded them into a folder I labelled DownloadsInstallLO (only 
for future reference).
Then in LO got to menu ToolsExtension Manager..., select Add and 
navigate to the folder with the extension and select the extension to add.

steve

On 26/05/11 7:04 AM, Tinkerer wrote:

Many thanks for the links.
I have downloaded them, but where on my Mac, Snow Leopard, do I put them so
that LO 3.4.5 will find them?

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Extensions

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

On 05/25/2011 03:04 PM, Tinkerer wrote:

Many thanks for the links.
I have downloaded them, but where on my Mac, Snow Leopard, do I put them so
that LO 3.4.5 will find them?

Tink.

For Windows and Ubuntu, I double click on them, since the .oxt file uses 
LibreOffice's as their application.  You should then get the Extension 
Manager to open up and install them properly.


I did not know LO was at 3.4.5, since 3.4 is in its RC2 stage and should 
not have gone that high yet.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[dphurst]

In Tools | Options | Language Settings | Languages, what is your Locale set
to?

I'm sure your feeling a bit frustrated with everyone's responses.  After
reading through the thread, I was frustrated and it's not my problem! 
However, the real problem is determining if your LO's Locale is set to a
particular setting and then figuring out how to modify that locale.  So, my
question to others, does LO have it's own set of locale definitions that it
accesses and is that where the definition of how Cevad's numbers are
displayed is really located, or does LO actually access the installed
systems modified locale settings for such information?

Let's define the question more precisely since the easy way out isn't
working.  Obviously, a predefined locale setting isn't sufficient here. 
And, I think LO may not be accessing the actual locale information that
Cevad has already defined for his Linux box.  So, based on Cevad's comment
that LO wasn't accessing his system's default definition of how to display
numbers and so on, doesn't it seem that LO isn't accessing that set of
locale information but a separately defined set of locale information that
hasn't been modified?

The real question:  Where are the files that comprise the locale settings
for LO?  Default or otherwise?  After that is answering, the next question
becomes: How are those files modified to match his current Pardus systems
definitions?

Best wishes,
Dow

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[NoOp]

On 04/05/2011 12:26 PM, oz1 wrote:
...
 Or much more easily: 
 LibO should look to the system global settings for all those definitions. 
 We need a working button Use Global locale settings in LibO.

It already does. From Help:

quote
Locale setting
Specifies the locale setting of the country setting. This influences
settings for numbering, currency and units of measure.
The Default entry selects the locale setting that is selected for the
operating system.
A change in this field is immediately applicable. However, some formats
that were formatted by default change only if the document is newly loaded.
/quote
...

Perhaps you should readjust your system 'locale' settings.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[oz1]

Just a feed back.
I have followed the suggestions to have multiple localization definitions in
a single calc sheet for necessary cells.
Although it was very time consuming to define those things (numbers
different, dates different, etc.) the result was perfect for the appearance
on screen or on printed copies.
But a side effect discovered later.
When we send the document from our office to outside world. They are
constrained with our definitions and presentation style. They can not see
the formats in the way they want / used to. They have to change the cells
localization to be able to correct the appearance. 
As a result we will not use this multi localizations method to be able to be
compatible with other parties.

May be this time I can state it more specifically:
What we need is to modify screen/print appearance of US-EN locale settings.
This requires customization of decimal symbols, dates, percentages, thousand
seperater character, or etc. Like global locale settings of operating
systems.
Or much more easily: 
LibO should look to the system global settings for all those definitions. 
We need a working button Use Global locale settings in LibO.

Thanks for your all support and help.
Cevad



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[Cevad OZTUG]

Thanks again to Johnny, as you stated it solves partially the problem.
Unfortunately our set of definitions are not fitting German 
(Leichtenstein) perfectly. So in a single document we have to define 
several cells with different local formats. (i.e. To see Eng. names of 
the days, or usd symbol for the currency and etc.)
But for sure Johnny's suggestion is very useful and works for particular 
needs.

Thanks again.

*Cevad OZTUG*

**

On 03/31/2011 12:49 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 03/29/2011 04:25 AM, Cevad OZTUG wrote:

Thanks to you all dear friends for your valuable comments.

The problem I stated was independent from the operating system (windows
or Linux behaviors were just the same) and I am using English version of
LO 3.2.

I was looking a windows - MS Office way of handling localization and
customization of predefined special symbols for thousand separator or
decimal point symbol or so.

My conclusions after all discussions and contributions:

1. LO is not referring to system settings (-such as decimal point
character or thousand separator character). (P.S. To Developers:
Difficult to understand, why not?)

2. There is no way to customize those symbols/characters. (P.S. to
Developers: More difficult to understand, why not?)

3. The only way is to choose from pre-defined locale settings which
suits best. (P.S. Default US-EN suits me best (-not perfect) for all
other aspects and I will continue to use that set)

4. There is  only one possibility to alter the predefined characters and
it is providing a new dictionary file. (P.S. I have no idea how to do
it? Where and how should I start to study the issue? )

For the interim, why not try as Johnny suggested?

Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages|Local setting: German
(Liechtenstein)|Default Currency: set to your choice. Then in Calc:
Format|Cells|Number: -1'234.12|OK
Your example number then shows as 123'456'789.00






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

Thanks for the instructions below.  I wondered what the best way to do 
it for Linux [Ubuntu 10.10].
Most people I deal with for multi languages use Windows, and that is 
easy[er].



On 03/30/2011 08:01 AM, kennedyd wrote:

hello cevad,

We had a similar problem when we were installing LibreOffice 3.3 on linux.
We work in English, Dutch, German and French.  We found that the following
method worked for us.

1. We installed a base system using the English GB option. This means that
the menus and default dictionaries, local settings and so forth are in
British English. (We are Europeans. You can choose any available language as
the base  system.)
So we downloaded and installed:
1.the basic US tar.gz file
2.the en-GB language pack tar.gz file
3. the en-GB help pack tar.gz file
as instructed by the 'Installing LibreOffice 3.3 on Linux' documentation.

Then to install  the other three languages dictionaries and local settings
for numbers, dates and so forth we installed ONLY the 'dict' binary from
within each language pack.
We followed the method described below. (We use SuSE and Debian
distributions here. For the Debian and its derivative distributions
substitute 'deb' for 'rpm' and 'DEB' for 'RPM' in the examples below.)

1. Download ONLY the langpacks for the languages and local settings you
require.
2. Open a terminal as root.
3. Copy the downloaded language pack(s) to your choice of installation
directory.
For example to install the German dictionaries and local settings:
cd /opt
cp /home/kd/Downloads/LibO_3.3.2_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_de.tar.gz .
4. Unpack the language pack(s)
tar -xvf LibO_3.3.2_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_de.tar.gz .
5. Change to the directory LibO...
cd LibO_3.3.2rc2_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_de/
6. Then cd to either the RPM subdirectory or in the case of a debian
distribution to the DEB subdirectory.
cd RPM
7. List the files within and look for the 'dict' binary in the list. Then
'rpm' or 'dpkg' this file only.
rpm -Uvh libreoffice3-dict-de-DE-3.3.2-202.x86_64.rpmlt;in the case of
the SuSE distribution.gt;
8. Repeat the steps 1 to 8 for any other languages and settings you wish to
install.

Launch LibreOffice and open the 'Tools'|'Options...'Language
Settings'Languages'.
You should now be able to set the Local setting to your prefered location.
For example: Germany (Germany)
You should also now be able to set your language setting for the documents
to you choice of language.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office localization for multinational work environment

[NoOp]

On 03/29/2011 04:25 AM, Cevad OZTUG wrote:
 
 Thanks to you all dear friends for your valuable comments.
 
 The problem I stated was independent from the operating system (windows 
 or Linux behaviors were just the same) and I am using English version of 
 LO 3.2.
 
 I was looking a windows - MS Office way of handling localization and 
 customization of predefined special symbols for thousand separator or 
 decimal point symbol or so.
 
 My conclusions after all discussions and contributions:
 
 1. LO is not referring to system settings (-such as decimal point 
 character or thousand separator character). (P.S. To Developers: 
 Difficult to understand, why not?)
 
 2. There is no way to customize those symbols/characters. (P.S. to 
 Developers: More difficult to understand, why not?)
 
 3. The only way is to choose from pre-defined locale settings which 
 suits best. (P.S. Default US-EN suits me best (-not perfect) for all 
 other aspects and I will continue to use that set)
 
 4. There is  only one possibility to alter the predefined characters and 
 it is providing a new dictionary file. (P.S. I have no idea how to do 
 it? Where and how should I start to study the issue? )

For the interim, why not try as Johnny suggested?

Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages|Local setting: German
(Liechtenstein)|Default Currency: set to your choice. Then in Calc:
Format|Cells|Number: -1'234.12|OK
Your example number then shows as 123'456'789.00




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