Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting comments
Thank you, Philip. I opened the default template (/home/sob/.config/libreoffice/4/user/template/New.ott) and verified the required font setting for the default document template. Then I created a comment in the template document, formatted it as I require, used the little button to select “Format all comments,” and saved the template again as the default template for documents. (And logged out for good measure.) Alas . . . In the document I am working on it still insists on the one I don’t want (which is not even installed); and now for new documents it chooses neither one nor the other but a third one! I’m beginning to think my computer is haunted by the ghost of dead fonts. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting comments
Hi Seamas, I was hoping to see some informed replies to your query but none so far so here's my 2 pennyworth. My guess is that the font spec for comments is buried in the default template you use for LO Writer documents. In templates I've made, where I've set up all fonts I want, the comments use the fonts I specified as basic for the text. In other cases where I have made a template using a document provided by someone else (and probably originating in MS Word), the comments mostly use Times New Roman which I never use (but which resides on PC anyway). But in any case, using the button inside the comments does let you change all existing comments with one click to whatever font you want, even if it doesn't continue for new comments added later. Philip On 30/01/2019 13:36, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: I wonder if anyone can shed any light on where Libre Office hides its settings for the formatting of comments. Inside a comment there is a button labelled “Format all comments.” I have repeatedly specified a particular typeface and size here, but each time a new comment is created it specifies one that is not even installed on my computer any more (and a different size). I’ve searched everywhere, even taken a peek into “expert configuration” (though I hesitate to go in there, having caused havoc in the past), but to no avail. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
I was able to fool it by using what you all taught me with ‘concatenate’. I split it into 3 cols with the space, then switch the cols and concatenate back to MM DD . However I do not understand why an international program like LiebreOffice cannot recognize DD MM . Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf From: Tom Davies Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:55 AM To: Mark Howe Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org ; Brian Barker Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date Hi :) So it's picking up the USA locale for it's input? I thought LibreOffice could have it's own locale as somethign different from the system's one? Regards from Tom :) On 19 February 2015 at 17:26, Mark Howe wrote: Yeah, I tho't of that and tried changing it around to 14 Jan 2014. The only thing that worked was changing it to Jan 14 2014 and then it worked automatically in it’s own column making the exercise with datevalue of no value. 14 Jan 2014 Err:502 01/10/14 Err:502 01/02/14 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 '=DATEVALUE(A6) 30 March 2014 This is what it looks like, 2 col starting with A1 [no col heading]. Line 6 so’s you can see what the formula looks like. Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Mark Howe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: >-Original Message- From: Brian Barker >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date >> >>At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: >>>I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date >>>2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As >>>if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? >> >>If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will >>want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just >>sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent >>date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this >>for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. > >I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would >convert the contents of A1 into a date. Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". >It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: mailto:users%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
If you right click Format>Cell>Numbers what comes up should be the current formatting for the cell. DATEVALUE() seems to work only on text. I can add spaces and remove spaces without a problem but not add extraneous characters except using a - as a single separator. Steve On 2015-02-20 06:26, Mark Howe wrote: Yeah, I tho't of that and tried changing it around to 14 Jan 2014. The only thing that worked was changing it to Jan 14 2014 and then it worked automatically in it’s own column making the exercise with datevalue of no value. 14 Jan 2014 Err:502 01/10/14 Err:502 01/02/14 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 '=DATEVALUE(A6) 30 March 2014 This is what it looks like, 2 col starting with A1 [no col heading]. Line 6 so’s you can see what the formula looks like. Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Mark Howe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date 2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would convert the contents of A1 into a date. Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
Hi. What version of LO do you have . I have 4.2 and 4.3. If I type 15 February 2015 into a cell it converts to a date (15/02/15 for me). If I format a cell (say A2) as text and type 15 February 2015 into a cell it shows 15 February 2015. If I enter =DATEVALUE(A2) into cell B2 then I get a number. I can then format that number (Format>Cell) as a date value. Are the dates you entered typed in, could there be any extraneous characters. steve On 2015-02-20 06:26, Mark Howe wrote: Yeah, I tho't of that and tried changing it around to 14 Jan 2014. The only thing that worked was changing it to Jan 14 2014 and then it worked automatically in it’s own column making the exercise with datevalue of no value. 14 Jan 2014 Err:502 01/10/14 Err:502 01/02/14 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 '=DATEVALUE(A6) 30 March 2014 This is what it looks like, 2 col starting with A1 [no col heading]. Line 6 so’s you can see what the formula looks like. Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Mark Howe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date 2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would convert the contents of A1 into a date. Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
Hi :) So it's picking up the USA locale for it's input? I thought LibreOffice could have it's own locale as somethign different from the system's one? Regards from Tom :) On 19 February 2015 at 17:26, Mark Howe wrote: > Yeah, I tho't of that and tried changing it around to 14 Jan 2014. > The only thing that worked was changing it to Jan 14 2014 and then it > worked automatically in it’s own column making the exercise with datevalue > of no value. > > 14 Jan 2014 Err:502 > 01/10/14 Err:502 > 01/02/14 Err:502 > 25 February 2014 Err:502 > 25 February 2014 Err:502 > 25 February 2014 '=DATEVALUE(A6) > 30 March 2014 > > > This is what it looks like, 2 col starting with A1 [no col heading]. Line > 6 so’s you can see what the formula looks like. > > Mark W. Howe > San Juan Capistrano, CA > 949-496-3453 home/ office > 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] > > "Phao Binh" > http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf > -Original Message- > From: Brian Barker > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:34 AM > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: Mark Howe > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date > > At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: > >-Original Message- From: Brian Barker > >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date > >> > >>At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: > >>>I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date > >>>2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As > >>>if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do > wrong? > >> > >>If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will > >>want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just > >>sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent > >>date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this > >>for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. > > > >I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would > >convert the contents of A1 into a date. > > Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". > > >It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? > > Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to > be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very > robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to > be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. > > Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
Yeah, I tho't of that and tried changing it around to 14 Jan 2014. The only thing that worked was changing it to Jan 14 2014 and then it worked automatically in it’s own column making the exercise with datevalue of no value. 14 Jan 2014 Err:502 01/10/14 Err:502 01/02/14 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 Err:502 25 February 2014 '=DATEVALUE(A6) 30 March 2014 This is what it looks like, 2 col starting with A1 [no col heading]. Line 6 so’s you can see what the formula looks like. Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:34 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Mark Howe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: >-Original Message- From: Brian Barker >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date >> >>At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: >>>I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date >>>2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As >>>if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? >> >>If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will >>want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just >>sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent >>date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this >>for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. > >I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would >convert the contents of A1 into a date. Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". >It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
At 07:19 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date 2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would convert the contents of A1 into a date. Yup - provided that the value in A1 is a "valid date expression". It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Then what is in A1 cannot be what Calc considers (in your locale) to be a valid date expression. The DATEVALUE() function seems very robust to me: it can cope with many date formats and doesn't seem to be fazed by extra blanks, though it can be by extraneous commas. Is it possible that you have a column heading in A1? I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
I interpreted what you wrote to mean that =datevalue(a1) would convert the contents of A1 into a date. It did not and produced err502. What am I missing? Thank you for helping so quickly :-) Mark W. Howe San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-496-3453 home/ office 949-525-3914 cell [not for messages] "Phao Binh" http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/finding_aids/inventory/2008008.pdf -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:05 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Mark Howe Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date 2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? o If you format a cell as Date and then type a date, the value will be edited from the text you type to an internal number - the number of days (and potentially fractions of a day) since the date origin. This will then be displayed as a date, in the format you chose. o If you type the text "19 February 2015" into a cell you have not previously assigned a type, Calc will.(subject to the diktats of your locale) translate the date to the internal number and apply a default date format to the cell. o But if you first enter text - even if it looks like a date to you and me - and then apply a date format, you are asking Calc to format text as a date. But it cannot do that - at least, it cannot do so without amending the actual contents of the cell, which would be undesirable. If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. You can copy the results back over your original data if you prefer, but you will have to use Paste Special and ensure that Formulae is *not* ticked in the Paste Special dialogue. Once you format the cell as your preferred Date format, you will have what you need. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting a date
At 06:41 19/02/2015 -0800, Mark Howe wrote: I have text: 19 February 2015. The format for the cell is date 2/19/2015, but it will not acknowledge that or sort correctly. As if it's formatted for date but not accepting that fact. What did I do wrong? o If you format a cell as Date and then type a date, the value will be edited from the text you type to an internal number - the number of days (and potentially fractions of a day) since the date origin. This will then be displayed as a date, in the format you chose. o If you type the text "19 February 2015" into a cell you have not previously assigned a type, Calc will.(subject to the diktats of your locale) translate the date to the internal number and apply a default date format to the cell. o But if you first enter text - even if it looks like a date to you and me - and then apply a date format, you are asking Calc to format text as a date. But it cannot do that - at least, it cannot do so without amending the actual contents of the cell, which would be undesirable. If you want your existing values to be genuine dates - as you will want to do if you need to include them in calculations or even just sort them - you must first convert the text into the equivalent date. Fortunately. the DATEVALUE() function is available to do this for you. Just put =DATEVALUE(Xn) in another column and fill down. You can copy the results back over your original data if you prefer, but you will have to use Paste Special and ensure that Formulae is *not* ticked in the Paste Special dialogue. Once you format the cell as your preferred Date format, you will have what you need. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting Writer formula bar fields
Chris Cameron wrote: Hi, Often I use Writer's Formula Bar (By hitting F2) to do some math inside my Writer document and have the output displayed. The default formatting for this output is to 2 decimal places, which is often less than I want. So every time I must right click the field, click "Fields", "Additional Formats", change the decimal places, then "ok", "ok". My number format never sticks around from field to field, and I see no option for changing the default in Writer. Can anyone tell me how I might change the default rounding this formula bar does? I'm not sure about that, or whether it's even possible. Copying a cell to another cell takes the format with it, which may give a quicker way. Just make sure the whole cell is highlighted when copying (so that the highlight extends to the borders of the cell, not just the text within the cell). The formula is copied as well, so you'll need to edit that afterwards. Or, failing that, how I can have a format saved in "Edit Fields" -> "Format" box? Formats you've already used in a document appear in the "User-defined" category of the "Number Format" dialog, so can be easily selected when for formatting another cell. I'm not sure if you can save them for use in other documents, but at least it may be quicker if you use the same format several times in one document. Many thanks, Chris Hope that helps a little, even though not exactly what you want. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting in LO spreadsheet
Hi Brian, I implemented the next workaround- Set the default formatting of the column to 0,000 Create conditional formatting to be 0,00 with the following formula: MOD(C2;0,01)=0 This is doing the job! Best, Rob. Op 1 jul. 2014, om 18:37 heeft Brian Barker het volgende geschreven: > At 23:16 30/06/2014 +0200, Rob Jasper wrote: >> Indeed when I look at the formatting after saving and reopening the file, >> the formatting changed from #0,00# to #0,000 . >> >> All predefined number formats are saved, and restored upon reopening. If I >> define a user-defined format, it is all of a sudden not saved... > > No, that's not true: it's just this particular - and rather unusual - format > with a hash after the zeroes (rather than before) that evidently cannot be > saved. Note that such formats are apparently *never* saved as such in ODF > files - just a description in a different form that indicates the same > format, but which is not capable of describing the unusual format that you > have chosen. > >> Also, if I save in MS .xlsx format it comes up fine in both MS-Excel (Excel >> for Mac 2011, V14.0.0 (100825)). If I open that file with LO it has also my >> defined formatting still available. > > I'm guessing, then, that the actual format character sequence is saved in > that file format. > >> Regardless what the technical cause is for this, it is at least user >> unfriendly? > > Possibly. > >> Questions to be asked: >> - What use has a user defined number format, if it can't be saved? > > Come, come: user-defined formats generally *can* be saved, just not all of > them - and apparently not your rather unusual one. Perhaps the designers of > Star Office / OpenOffice / LibreOffice based the format code on Microsoft's, > knowing that it could saved in Microsoft's document formats? Could it perhaps > be saved in the old Star Office .sxc format? > >> - If this is indeed a restriction in the ODF definition, why is LO not >> warning like "The defined format can not be saved in the desired file >> format"? > > Dunno. > >> - Why does LO consider the format change a change in the first place? (If I >> open the file, change the format as I like it, it is considered changed, >> while the file stays exactly the same) > > Any change is a change, including a format change. You wouldn't change the > format if you didn't want that to change something. This situation is rather > as if you replaced some character in a document with an identical character: > the document is still considered changed. Indeed, there may be unobvious ways > in which it actually will be. > >> - Should we consider this as a flaw in the ODF definitions? > > That's a value judgement for you to make. It's certainly something that can > be handled in Calc but apparently not saved in an ODF document. > >> Where can we complain about this? > > Either to OASIS (if you want the ODF format modified to allow this) or to the > LibreOffice bug reporting system (if you want your original format not to > work even at first, or if you want a warning that it cannot be saved in ODF > documents). > > Brian Barker > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting in LO spreadsheet
At 23:16 30/06/2014 +0200, Rob Jasper wrote: Indeed when I look at the formatting after saving and reopening the file, the formatting changed from #0,00# to #0,000 . All predefined number formats are saved, and restored upon reopening. If I define a user-defined format, it is all of a sudden not saved... No, that's not true: it's just this particular - and rather unusual - format with a hash after the zeroes (rather than before) that evidently cannot be saved. Note that such formats are apparently *never* saved as such in ODF files - just a description in a different form that indicates the same format, but which is not capable of describing the unusual format that you have chosen. Also, if I save in MS .xlsx format it comes up fine in both MS-Excel (Excel for Mac 2011, V14.0.0 (100825)). If I open that file with LO it has also my defined formatting still available. I'm guessing, then, that the actual format character sequence is saved in that file format. Regardless what the technical cause is for this, it is at least user unfriendly? Possibly. Questions to be asked: - What use has a user defined number format, if it can't be saved? Come, come: user-defined formats generally *can* be saved, just not all of them - and apparently not your rather unusual one. Perhaps the designers of Star Office / OpenOffice / LibreOffice based the format code on Microsoft's, knowing that it could saved in Microsoft's document formats? Could it perhaps be saved in the old Star Office .sxc format? - If this is indeed a restriction in the ODF definition, why is LO not warning like "The defined format can not be saved in the desired file format"? Dunno. - Why does LO consider the format change a change in the first place? (If I open the file, change the format as I like it, it is considered changed, while the file stays exactly the same) Any change is a change, including a format change. You wouldn't change the format if you didn't want that to change something. This situation is rather as if you replaced some character in a document with an identical character: the document is still considered changed. Indeed, there may be unobvious ways in which it actually will be. - Should we consider this as a flaw in the ODF definitions? That's a value judgement for you to make. It's certainly something that can be handled in Calc but apparently not saved in an ODF document. Where can we complain about this? Either to OASIS (if you want the ODF format modified to allow this) or to the LibreOffice bug reporting system (if you want your original format not to work even at first, or if you want a warning that it cannot be saved in ODF documents). Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting in LO spreadsheet
Brian, thank you for your answer. Indeed when I look at the formatting after saving and reopening the file, the formatting changed from #0,00# to #0,000 . All predefined number formats are saved, and restored upon reopening. If I define a user-defined format, it is all over sudden not saved... Also, if I save in MS .xlsx format it comes up fine in both MS-Excel (Excel for Mac 2011, V14.0.0 (100825)). If I open that file with LO it has also my defined formatting still available. Regardless what the technical cause is for this, it is at least user unfriendly?? Questions to be asked: - What use has a user defined number format, if it can't be saved? - If this is indeed a restriction in the ODF definition, why is LO not warning like "The defined format can not be saved in the desired file format"? - Why does LO consider the format change a change in the first place? (If I open the file, change the format as I like it, it is considered changed, while the file stays exactly the same) - Should we consider this as a flaw in de ODF definitions? Where can we complain about this? So, in my opinion LO behaves inconsequent at least! Best, Rob. Op 29 jun. 2014, om 10:39 heeft Brian Barker het volgende geschreven: > At 19:42 28/06/2014 +0200, Rob Jasper wrote: >> I have a calc spreadsheet (.ods) ... >> So I select the columns and change the formatting to #.##0,00# >> This works as expected. Above values are still displayed as before, but >> values 0,125 (for 12 and a half cents) are displayed with 3 digits. >> Here is an example before save/reopen: >> [...] >> 2 1852ƒ 0,100,005 >> 4 1864ƒ 0,125 0,05 >> >> If I now save and close the spreadsheet, and open it again all values are >> all of a sudden displayed with 3 digits behind the decimal comma! This is >> what it becomes when I open the file: >> >> 2 1852ƒ 0,100 0,005 >> 4 1864ƒ 0,125 0,050 >> >> Is this bad behavior of LO calc or am I missing something here? > > What you don't tell us is what the formatting looks like after you reopen the > document. I suspect it will have changed from #.##0,00# to #.##0,000 . In > other words, Calc is accepting your original formatting and faithfully > displaying the values as you wish, but is not managing to preserve this > requirement in the saved document. > > The definition of ODF says that the format code is "a sequence of characters > with an implementation-defined meaning", so clearly it cannot be saved in the > document file exactly as you enter and see it. A bit of experimentation > suggests that instead, an explanation of the format is included in the > "styles" element, and this allows only such things as "decimal-places", > "grouping" (whether you want the thousands separator), "currency-symbol", > "min-exponent-digits", and so on. This would suggest that your desired > format, although acted upon by Calc, indeed cannot be saved in an .ods file > and is lost when you attempt this. > > The only remaining odd thing is that the help text suggests that "#.0#" will > display "13 as 13.0 and 1234.567 as 1234.57" - which is exactly the > functionality you require. Whilst this is true in the application, it's > evidently not possible to preserve it in a saved document. > > An obvious workaround is to create text values in a new column, using > =TEXT(Xn;"#.##0,00#") - which you can then right-align if you prefer. You can > continue to use the actual numerical values in calculations, whilst hiding > that column if you prefer. If you need to enter values in the numerical > column, an alternative technique would be to have another area - perhaps on > another sheet - where a copy with properly formatted values was created. You > could then print just that area or sheet. > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting in LO spreadsheet
At 19:42 28/06/2014 +0200, Rob Jasper wrote: I have a calc spreadsheet (.ods) ... So I select the columns and change the formatting to #.##0,00# This works as expected. Above values are still displayed as before, but values 0,125 (for 12 and a half cents) are displayed with 3 digits. Here is an example before save/reopen: [...] 2 1852 0,100,005 4 1864 0,125 0,05 If I now save and close the spreadsheet, and open it again all values are all of a sudden displayed with 3 digits behind the decimal comma! This is what it becomes when I open the file: 2 1852 0,100 0,005 4 1864 0,125 0,050 Is this bad behavior of LO calc or am I missing something here? What you don't tell us is what the formatting looks like after you reopen the document. I suspect it will have changed from #.##0,00# to #.##0,000 . In other words, Calc is accepting your original formatting and faithfully displaying the values as you wish, but is not managing to preserve this requirement in the saved document. The definition of ODF says that the format code is "a sequence of characters with an implementation-defined meaning", so clearly it cannot be saved in the document file exactly as you enter and see it. A bit of experimentation suggests that instead, an explanation of the format is included in the "styles" element, and this allows only such things as "decimal-places", "grouping" (whether you want the thousands separator), "currency-symbol", "min-exponent-digits", and so on. This would suggest that your desired format, although acted upon by Calc, indeed cannot be saved in an .ods file and is lost when you attempt this. The only remaining odd thing is that the help text suggests that "#.0#" will display "13 as 13.0 and 1234.567 as 1234.57" - which is exactly the functionality you require. Whilst this is true in the application, it's evidently not possible to preserve it in a saved document. An obvious workaround is to create text values in a new column, using =TEXT(Xn;"#.##0,00#") - which you can then right-align if you prefer. You can continue to use the actual numerical values in calculations, whilst hiding that column if you prefer. If you need to enter values in the numerical column, an alternative technique would be to have another area - perhaps on another sheet - where a copy with properly formatted values was created. You could then print just that area or sheet. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting Errors in Calc
James E Lang wrote:
LibreOffice Version: 4.1.3.2 Build ID: 410m0(Build:2) on Kubuntu 13.10
Background:
I use KingSoft Office Spreadsheet for Android on my phone because regrettably
LibreOffice Calc for Android is not usable. KingSoft uses and saves .xlsx
files. From time to time I upload one of these files to my Linux computer to
enhance the layout. I use LibreOffice as noted at the top of this post to
perform the enhancements.
Problem:
Formulas that evaluate to text strings are being displayed as a formatted zero
value.
Examples:
• A formula that evaluates to "14.01.16.xlsx" according to the Function Wizard displays as
"December 30, 1899" instead using a date format code. The formula is supposed to display the file
name without the path. Since CELL("filename") formats the information differently in Kingsoft
Office vs LibreOffice the formula tests the structure of the returned string and extracts the file name
accordingly. The LibreOffice part of the formula is:
=MID(CELL("filename"),FIND(C1,CELL("filename"),1)+LEN(C1),FIND("'#",
CELL("filename"),1)-( FIND(C1,CELL("filename"),1)+LEN(C1 )))
• A formula that evaluates to "" according to the Function Wizard displays as
$0.00 instead using a currency format code. The simple formula is:
=IF(ISNUMBER(F20),IF(F20
Don't know if either of these will help, but a couple of ideas to try if
you haven't already...
1. Compatibility problems with MS Office Open XML (.docx, .xlsx, etc.)
files are often reported here. I don't have personal experience of such
problems, but the advice usually given is to avoid OOXML files if
possible. The format apparently changes slightly with each version of MS
Office, and even newer versions of MS Office can display OOXML files
from older versions incorrectly - so what hope does anyone else have!
The ideal would be to use Open Document Spreadsheet (.ods) but I'm not
sure if Kingsoft supports that. Otherwise, it looks like it can output
MS Excel 2003 format (.xls - without the extra x), which is probably
more reliable.
2. Check what formatting is applied to the cells when saving the
spreadsheet from Kingsoft (before importing into LibreOffice). Maybe the
cells are formatted as "General", which Kingsoft may interpret
differently from LibreOffice. Try setting the format to "Text" in
Kingsoft before transferring the file.
Mark.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting fonts in Impress
Let me add a comment to the one from Tom. I created my own Template and adjusted the fonts in the template. How to do? Create a presentation with the minimum slides you always want to have and adjust all to the layout you want to have. You will need to work in this case also with the Master Slide. Save it as a template with a name which helps you to identify this template. I found all I needed in the Impress Guide. Link is in Tom's reply. ROSt On 2012-09-09 06:11, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I'm never very sure about Impress but the documentation page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications might be able to help. In the "Gettting Started Guide" Chapter 3 "Using Styles and Templates" might help. If you press F11 or Format - "Styles and Formatting" and then change the font in Default or Body-Text then i think that should filter through to the other styles. I just set the default font in Tools - Options - "LibreOffice Writer" - "Basic Fonts " ... but that sets it for all new documents i create. Of course i can change fonts for selected bits and bobs but it'snice to choose a decent default. Regards from Tom :) From: Inger Wejheden To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2012, 21:04 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Formatting fonts in Impress Hello, I should be grateful for some fast help concerning formatting fonts in Impress. How do I set default for for example Times New Roman for the whole slide show? Now I have to change for every new line and cannot figure out how to set ananother font than the first in the menue. I thank yuou in advance! regards Inger Wejheden -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting fonts in Impress
Hi :) I'm never very sure about Impress but the documentation page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications might be able to help. In the "Gettting Started Guide" Chapter 3 "Using Styles and Templates" might help. If you press F11 or Format - "Styles and Formatting" and then change the font in Default or Body-Text then i think that should filter through to the other styles. I just set the default font in Tools - Options - "LibreOffice Writer" - "Basic Fonts " ... but that sets it for all new documents i create. Of course i can change fonts for selected bits and bobs but it'snice to choose a decent default. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Inger Wejheden >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2012, 21:04 >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Formatting fonts in Impress > >Hello, >I should be grateful for some fast help concerning formatting fonts in Impress. >How do I set default for for example Times New Roman for the whole slide show? >Now I have to change for every new line and cannot figure out how to set >ananother font than the first in the menue. >I thank yuou in advance! >regards >Inger Wejheden > >-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting fonts in Impress
On 09/08/2012 04:04 PM, Inger Wejheden wrote: Hello, I should be grateful for some fast help concerning formatting fonts in Impress. How do I set default for for example Times New Roman for the whole slide show? Now I have to change for every new line and cannot figure out how to set ananother font than the first in the menue. I thank yuou in advance! regards Inger Wejheden You need to open the Styles and Formatting window using the F11 key. Right click the Outline 1 style and select Times New Roman as the font Family. (Make sure you have the correct font style and size.) Repeat this for Outline 2. Repeat if necessary for Outline 3. (I found that if I changed Outline 1 & 2, that the rest of the Outline styles change accordingly.) Click OK. All your text should be Times New Roman. You can use the F11 key to close the Styles and Formatting window now if you want to. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
NOT! lol Re: off-list :) Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Hi :) Do!! This is very confusing! I'll be glad when i've got back to where i was before my 'hols' Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 17/8/12, Tom Davies wrote: From: Tom Davies Subject: off-list :) Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 17 August, 2012, 17:08 Hi :) Brilliant!! It's rare to see someone put that effort in to finding out and helping other people. Obviously there are a few people (such as Dan, Brian, Alex, Jay, Regina, hmmm, quite a few) and it's good to see someone possibly joining their ranks :) Nicely done! Congrats and regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 11/8/12, Andrew Brager wrote: From: Andrew Brager Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 11 August, 2012, 15:47 On 8/10/2012 7:44 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 16:31 10/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: >> The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I. > > That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this > description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, > not me. > >> (Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ... > > Er, neither can I! > > Brian Barker > > Turns out it was Dan. Sorry about that Dan (and Brian)! I trust you don't mind if I repost your explanation of how to use templates? Anne - Perhaps you'll be able to adapt it to your situation. There's some help in the help file - use "defaults;fonts" as your search string. If that's not enough, maybe Dan (or anyone else) can help you. Or, I could be wrong about the solution. Dan wrote in a different thread: > I think your subject points to what you want: the term "Default". You need a > default template with the styles you use regularly. > What you need to do is to create a Writer document with the styles that >you want to use. You will need to use an empty line for each paragraph style >you want and apply a style on each line. > You also need to look at Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Paths. There >Templates has two paths listed separated by a semi-colon. The latter is the >path where you want to save your document as a template. > Then save the document as a template using the second template path. (*.ott >This is one of the formats available when saving a file.) > File > Templates > Organize Templates. Double click the My Templates folder to open it. Your template should appear under My Templates folder. If not, right click My Templates and select, Import Templates. Browse to where you saved your template, and select it. Now it should be visible. Now, right click your template. Select Set as Default. Close LO. Any time you open Writer, you will be using the template you have just created. Title will be available all the time. > > --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
off-list :) Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Hi :) Brilliant!! It's rare to see someone put that effort in to finding out and helping other people. Obviously there are a few people (such as Dan, Brian, Alex, Jay, Regina, hmmm, quite a few) and it's good to see someone possibly joining their ranks :) Nicely done! Congrats and regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 11/8/12, Andrew Brager wrote: From: Andrew Brager Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 11 August, 2012, 15:47 On 8/10/2012 7:44 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 16:31 10/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: >> The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that >> actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. >> As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you >> too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than >> I. > > That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this > description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, > not me. > >> (Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ... > > Er, neither can I! > > Brian Barker > > Turns out it was Dan. Sorry about that Dan (and Brian)! I trust you don't mind if I repost your explanation of how to use templates? Anne - Perhaps you'll be able to adapt it to your situation. There's some help in the help file - use "defaults;fonts" as your search string. If that's not enough, maybe Dan (or anyone else) can help you. Or, I could be wrong about the solution. Dan wrote in a different thread: > I think your subject points to what you want: the term "Default". You need a > default template with the styles you use regularly. > What you need to do is to create a Writer document with the styles that >you want to use. You will need to use an empty line for each paragraph style >you want and apply a style on each line. > You also need to look at Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Paths. There >Templates has two paths listed separated by a semi-colon. The latter is the >path where you want to save your document as a template. > Then save the document as a template using the second template path. (*.ott >This is one of the formats available when saving a file.) > File > Templates > Organize Templates. Double click the My Templates >folder to open it. Your template should appear under My Templates folder. If >not, right click My Templates and select, Import Templates. Browse to where >you saved your template, and select it. Now it should be visible. Now, right >click your template. Select Set as Default. Close LO. Any time you open >Writer, you will be using the template you have just created. Title will be >available all the time. > > --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
On 8/10/2012 7:44 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:31 10/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I. That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, not me. (Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ... Er, neither can I! Brian Barker Turns out it was Dan. Sorry about that Dan (and Brian)! I trust you don't mind if I repost your explanation of how to use templates? Anne - Perhaps you'll be able to adapt it to your situation. There's some help in the help file - use "defaults;fonts" as your search string. If that's not enough, maybe Dan (or anyone else) can help you. Or, I could be wrong about the solution. Dan wrote in a different thread: I think your subject points to what you want: the term "Default". You need a default template with the styles you use regularly. What you need to do is to create a Writer document with the styles that you want to use. You will need to use an empty line for each paragraph style you want and apply a style on each line. You also need to look at Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Paths. There Templates has two paths listed separated by a semi-colon. The latter is the path where you want to save your document as a template. Then save the document as a template using the second template path. (*.ott This is one of the formats available when saving a file.) File > Templates > Organize Templates. Double click the My Templates folder to open it. Your template should appear under My Templates folder. If not, right click My Templates and select, Import Templates. Browse to where you saved your template, and select it. Now it should be visible. Now, right click your template. Select Set as Default. Close LO. Any time you open Writer, you will be using the template you have just created. Title will be available all the time. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
At 16:31 10/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I. That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, not me. (Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ... Er, neither can I! Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Anne, The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I. (Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. I'm sorry to say I may have deleted it by accident. I have this weird problem where I click the mouse once and it sometimes acts like I either double-clicked it - and executes a file I had merely meant to select, or it acts like I clicked it twice - and so deletes two emails when I had only intended to delete one and I don't always notice. You have no idea how aggravating that is!) On 7/25/2012 7:53 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that? Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button? I don't remember seeing it. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text & color do not remain. Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that? Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides. So... STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have) STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all. STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles. You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems. Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a "styles" item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called "font effects". For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the "normal" tab, right clicking shows a menu item called "edit style". In the "outline" tab that item appears to become "presentation object". There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on
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I'm sorry that I did not mention this earlier in this thread. The Impress Guide explains how to create a slide presentation with some detail. It is available for download at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications --Dan anne-ology wrote: yes, Andrew, it works that way ... but I don't want to complete the PP then select the font-color; I want to see each slide finished before going on to the next one. With each font, the placement & size changes, therefore by waiting until after the PP is completed before choosing the font would mean I'd have to re-do each slide again to be sure the placement was just so. That method is even more time consuming. [this probably explains why so many PPs look messy, with the lettering catawampus, the pictures skewed, ... ] BTW FYI - right below the timing button, is the apply to all button. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that? Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button? I don't remember seeing it. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text & color do not remain. Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that? Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides. So... STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have) STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all. STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles. You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems. Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a "styles" item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called "font effects". For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the "normal" tab, right clicking shows a menu item called "edit style". In the "outline" tab that item appears to become "presentation object". There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM,
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yes, Andrew, it works that way ... but I don't want to complete the PP then select the font-color; I want to see each slide finished before going on to the next one. With each font, the placement & size changes, therefore by waiting until after the PP is completed before choosing the font would mean I'd have to re-do each slide again to be sure the placement was just so. That method is even more time consuming. [this probably explains why so many PPs look messy, with the lettering catawampus, the pictures skewed, ... ] BTW FYI - right below the timing button, is the apply to all button. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: > >> Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... >> and >> I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the >> default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no >> place to choose the font for the text. >> > > You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is > subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the > font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to > be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do > that? > > > > >> Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added >> 50 >> this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. >> > > What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button? I don't remember > seeing it. > > > > Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here >> would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... >> then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it >> was Ariel with black, >> so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for >> each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' >> ... but the text & color do not remain. >> > > Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know > how to do that? > > Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. > However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides. So... > > STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). > STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're > pretending that 2 slides are all you have) > STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab > before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in > OUTLINE mode before selecting all. > STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should > visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. > STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If > not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. > > > Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. > > Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The > experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) > that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use > of styles. > > You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above > SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all > you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no > effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click > on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is > first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the > styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to > your style problems. > > Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the > style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. > > > These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't >> work >> the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I >> add the new slides. >> >> Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm >> referring; thanks. >> > > Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ > > To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some > confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu > that has a "styles" item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called > "font effects". For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, etc. This can > be confusing to a beginner. In the "normal" tab, right clicking shows a > menu item called "edit style". In the "outline" tab that item appears to > become "presentation object". There are other similar confusing and > inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and > take a good look. > > > > > >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan wrote: >> >> Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what >> >>>
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On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote: Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that? Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button? I don't remember seeing it. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text & color do not remain. Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that? Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides. So... STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that). STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have) STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all. STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted. STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time. Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts. Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles. You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems. Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\ To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a "styles" item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called "font effects". For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the "normal" tab, right clicking shows a menu item called "edit style". In the "outline" tab that item appears to become "presentation object". There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?" What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing the font of the text on all the slides? You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task Pane. Please give us some details. I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change
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Could you create and send me a presentation to my email address? 3-5 slides may be sufficient. I need to see what you are doing and perhaps how you are doing it. --Dan anne-ology wrote: That's great ... but it doesn't work that way for me. Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text & color do not remain. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?" What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing the font of the text on all the slides? You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task Pane. Please give us some details. I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for "years." --Dan anne-ology wrote: So you're able to change the text on all the slides?; then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I guess ;-) So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting your responses now. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually just a beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted. The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the same time, so you only have to make the change once. Of course if you add more slides you need to do it again for the new slides. No, it's not ideal and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe. Good idea! On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote: Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide ;-) It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page when starting a new file ... [would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if so, I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.] I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if the font & color will hold, but it won't ;-) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were using Writer. After re-reading your original post and some of the other responses I think I now understand what you really want. I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you described, the best I could come up with is to go to the "outline" tab, select all the text, then change the font. That way, all of your slides will have the same font for that one file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
That's great ... but it doesn't work that way for me. Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no place to choose the font for the text. Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50 this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'. Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ... then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it was Ariel with black, so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all' ... but the text & color do not remain. These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I add the new slides. Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm referring; thanks. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan wrote: Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what > mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?" > What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing > the font of the text on all the slides? > You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. > Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you > described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task > Pane. Please give us some details. > I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which > have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style > listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all > the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide > show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in > all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font > color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the > presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for "years." > > --Dan > > > anne-ology wrote: > >> So you're able to change the text on all the slides?; >>then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I >> guess ;-) >> >> So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting >> your responses now. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager >> wrote: >> >> I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually >> just a >> >>> beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted. >>> >>> The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the >>> same time, so you only have to make the change once. Of course if you >>> add >>> more slides you need to do it again for the new slides. No, it's not >>> ideal >>> and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe. Good idea! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote: >>> >>> Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide ;-) >>> >>> It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page >>> when starting a new file ... >>> [would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if >>> so, >>> I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.] >>> >>> I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if >>> the font & color will hold, but it won't ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager >> >wrote: >>> >>> I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were >>> using >>> Writer. After re-reading your original post and some of the other responses I think I now understand what you really want. I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you described, the best I could come up with is to go to the "outline" tab, select all the text, then change the font. That way, all of your slides will have the same font for that one file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?" What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing the font of the text on all the slides? You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task Pane. Please give us some details. I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for "years." --Dan anne-ology wrote: So you're able to change the text on all the slides?; then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I guess ;-) So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting your responses now. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually just a beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted. The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the same time, so you only have to make the change once. Of course if you add more slides you need to do it again for the new slides. No, it's not ideal and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe. Good idea! On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote: Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide ;-) It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page when starting a new file ... [would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if so, I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.] I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if the font & color will hold, but it won't ;-) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were using Writer. After re-reading your original post and some of the other responses I think I now understand what you really want. I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you described, the best I could come up with is to go to the "outline" tab, select all the text, then change the font. That way, all of your slides will have the same font for that one file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
So you're able to change the text on all the slides?; then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I guess ;-) So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting your responses now. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually just a > beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted. > > The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the > same time, so you only have to make the change once. Of course if you add > more slides you need to do it again for the new slides. No, it's not ideal > and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe. Good idea! > > > > > On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote: > >Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide ;-) > >It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page > when starting a new file ... >[would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if so, > I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.] > >I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if > the font & color will hold, but it won't ;-) > > > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager wrote: > > I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were using >> Writer. After re-reading your original post and some of the other >> responses I think I now understand what you really want. >> >> I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you >> described, the best I could come up with is to go to the "outline" tab, >> select all the text, then change the font. That way, all of your slides >> will have the same font for that one file. >> >> >> > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
And I offered to send you a copy of a slide show which would visually show you how to do many things in Impress. I have not seen any comments about it. It might be "talking over your head", or it might not. How will you know unless you got the slide show and studied it? It seems like you would like to learn more about Impress. --Dan anne-ology wrote: You're obviously knowledgeable, but 'talking over my head' ;-) and you obviously have a good sense of humour ;-) wishing you 'Bon Chance' this day, and always, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker < jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> wrote: Le 24/07/2012 18:35, anne-ology a écrit : Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) :,( (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file. Basically, using styles allows just that: set the styles of a particular file. (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file ... just not the font. Now, I'm lost ;) (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in OO-LO Well, mine does. Try the Format / Styles and formatting menu which does the same. This Styles and formatting window lists the styles that are currently defined in the document. (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to history-genealogy ... ] LOL! Styles can be hierarchically connected with each other: a style can be the parent of another one. EG: in Impress, in the Styles and formatting window (see 3. above) click on the Presentation styles button (2nd from the left on the top row). Also, select the Hierarchy type in the bottom list. You'll notice that the styles named Outline1..Outline9 are members of the same "family". Any change applied to a parent automagically propagates ;) to its heirs. This means that setting the font of a parent automatically sets its children font. I hope I made me clear this time. (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?] At times, yes ;) but not on this board. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
You're obviously knowledgeable, but 'talking over my head' ;-) and you obviously have a good sense of humour ;-) wishing you 'Bon Chance' this day, and always, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker < jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> wrote: Le 24/07/2012 18:35, anne-ology a écrit : > > Thanks for your response. >> >> Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) >> > > :,( > > > (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file >> automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file. >> > > Basically, using styles allows just that: set the styles of a particular > file. > > > (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that >> file >> ... just not the font. >> > > Now, I'm lost ;) > > > (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in >> OO-LO >> > > Well, mine does. Try the Format / Styles and formatting menu which does > the same. > This Styles and formatting window lists the styles that are currently > defined in the document. > > > (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to >> history-genealogy ... ] >> > > LOL! > > Styles can be hierarchically connected with each other: a style can be the > parent of another one. > > EG: in Impress, in the Styles and formatting window (see 3. above) click > on the Presentation styles button (2nd from the left on the top row). Also, > select the Hierarchy type in the bottom list. You'll notice that the styles > named Outline1..Outline9 are members of the same "family". > > Any change applied to a parent automagically propagates ;) to its heirs. > This means that setting the font of a parent automatically sets its > children font. > > I hope I made me clear this time. > > > (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?] >> > > At times, yes ;) but not on this board. > > > -- > Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Hi :) I think the French team focus more on their Faq than on documentation https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/fr but here is their home-page for LO http://fr.libreoffice.org/ which looks quite full and has a lot of pages. I'm not sure it really helps this time, sorry! Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 24/7/12, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 20:45 Le 24/07/2012 18:35, anne-ology a écrit : > Thanks for your response. > > Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) :,( > (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file > automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file. Basically, using styles allows just that: set the styles of a particular file. > (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file > ... just not the font. Now, I'm lost ;) > (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in > OO-LO Well, mine does. Try the Format / Styles and formatting menu which does the same. This Styles and formatting window lists the styles that are currently defined in the document. > (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to > history-genealogy ... ] LOL! Styles can be hierarchically connected with each other: a style can be the parent of another one. EG: in Impress, in the Styles and formatting window (see 3. above) click on the Presentation styles button (2nd from the left on the top row). Also, select the Hierarchy type in the bottom list. You'll notice that the styles named Outline1..Outline9 are members of the same "family". Any change applied to a parent automagically propagates ;) to its heirs. This means that setting the font of a parent automatically sets its children font. I hope I made me clear this time. > (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?] At times, yes ;) but not on this board. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Le 24/07/2012 18:35, anne-ology a écrit : Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) :,( (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file. Basically, using styles allows just that: set the styles of a particular file. (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file ... just not the font. Now, I'm lost ;) (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in OO-LO Well, mine does. Try the Format / Styles and formatting menu which does the same. This Styles and formatting window lists the styles that are currently defined in the document. (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to history-genealogy ... ] LOL! Styles can be hierarchically connected with each other: a style can be the parent of another one. EG: in Impress, in the Styles and formatting window (see 3. above) click on the Presentation styles button (2nd from the left on the top row). Also, select the Hierarchy type in the bottom list. You'll notice that the styles named Outline1..Outline9 are members of the same "family". Any change applied to a parent automagically propagates ;) to its heirs. This means that setting the font of a parent automatically sets its children font. I hope I made me clear this time. (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?] At times, yes ;) but not on this board. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' ;-) (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file. (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file ... just not the font. (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in OO-LO (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to history-genealogy ... ] (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?] On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker < jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> wrote: Le 24/07/2012 01:56, anne-ology a écrit : > > Is there some way, while in Impress, to make the desired font the >> default for that particular file? >>it's so frustrating to have to continually re-apply the text's >> font. >> >> > Yes, it is. > > The answer is: styles. > > In Impress, there are two styles categories : images and presentations > (display them using F11). > > In the images category, setting Default style font will propagate to the > others, because Default is their common parent (select the Hierarchy option > at the bottom of the styles window). > > In the presentations category, apart from the outline1..9 styles, styles > have no parent. So you'd have to set outline1 font (which will propagate to > the outlineX styles) and to set each of the other styles font to get to > what you're looking for. > > Disclaimer: the names used above are a free translation from my FR LibO. > -- > Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Le 24/07/2012 01:56, anne-ology a écrit : Is there some way, while in Impress, to make the desired font the default for that particular file? it's so frustrating to have to continually re-apply the text's font. Yes, it is. The answer is: styles. In Impress, there are two styles categories : images and presentations (display them using F11). In the images category, setting Default style font will propagate to the others, because Default is their common parent (select the Hierarchy option at the bottom of the styles window). In the presentations category, apart from the outline1..9 styles, styles have no parent. So you'd have to set outline1 font (which will propagate to the outlineX styles) and to set each of the other styles font to get to what you're looking for. Disclaimer: the names used above are a free translation from my FR LibO. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Is there some way, while in Impress, to make the desired font the
default for that particular file?
it's so frustrating to have to continually re-apply the text's
font.
I like to use differing fonts but within any one file, I want to use
the same font.
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Dave Barton wrote:
> >> From: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com
> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:33:27 -0500
>
>
> > I'd like to create a macro for a user-defined date format
> > (H:MMa/p). As
> > examples, 7:00 AM would display as 7:00a and 3:33 PM as 3:33p. I can
> > create the format manually, but I understand the LibreOffice format
> > can't save user-defined formats. So my thought is to create a macro
> > which creates the format each time the spreadsheet is opened. The
> > user-defined Format Code is for a saved Style.
> >
> > The macro records without incident and the date format is correct.
> > However, running the saved macro doesn't change the format. It seems
> > this should work. Thoughts? The recorded macro is as follows:
> >
> >> 8<-- code snip for brevity -->8
> Sorry I can't help with your macro, but I like your idea.
> An alternative approach I use, is to add my user defined date format
> to
> my Calc default template.
>
> Dave
>
>
> >>> Thank you for responding; I admire your style. I manually changed the
> >>> date format of my spreadsheet, saved , then coded it as the default
> >>> template. The default template took, but unfortunately, again the
> >>> user-defined date format wasn't saved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do I understand you can save a user-defined date format in the default
> >>> template and it takes? I'm sure a macro would work and I can wade
> >>> through the code, but if there's an easier way I'm interested.
> >> I am not sure what you mean by "coded it as the default template".
> >> If you follow this procedure:
> >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1161
> >> the ".ots" (Calc template) file will include your date format, as would
> >> be the case for any ODF file.
> >> I am sending you (off-list) an example template which has a DD.MM.
> >> date format, which is not included in standard list of date formats.
> >> Open it and you will find 31.12.1999 at the end of the Format => Date ->
> >> Category format list.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> > Thank you again for responding. However, I think we're talking apples
> > and oranges. I opened your template and the DD.MM. user-defined
> > format works. My problem is I can't get the H:MMa/p user-defined Format
> > Code to take. While the document is opened I can change 1:11PM to 1:11p
> > for instance. However, after saving, closing, and reopening the
> > document the time appears as 1:11PM, not 1:11p, which is the format code
> > I wanted saved. I've always been able to save the user-defined code, I
> > just can't get the lower-case a/p to take. It does work with other file
> > formats.
> >
> > That happens regardless of whether I save as an .ods or .ots file. I do
> > see the user-defined Format Code, but it always comes up as H:MMAM/PM
> > even though I save it as H:MMa/p. I believe I originally created a
> > default template correctly, but just redid the process with your
> > instructions. The same thing happens if I save the format in your
> > attached template.
> >
> > So, can you successfully save the H:MMa/p format code? That would
> > address the apples/oranges question. I'd appreciate your testing that
> > if possible. If it works for you I'm doing something wrong. It's not a
> > huge deal to manually change AM/PM to a/p each time I open the
> > spreadsheet, but not having to do so would be better.
>
> Your "apples & oranges" analogy is correct. I was misled by your
> original reference to "Date" format and although you spelled it out
> quite clearly I overlooked the fact that your issue was with "Time" format.
>
> I have now done some testing on this issue, with the following results:
> * Saving from LO in ODF (".ods" or ".ots") format does not preserve the
> user defined time format you want. (As you have already established.)
> * Saving from LO in Excel (".xls") format and reopening it LO does
> preserve the format. (As suggested by Pedro in another post to this
> thread.)
>
> It may or may not be of importance to you, but opening the files saved
> from LO and opening them in Excel 2010 I found:
> * XLS File: Partially preserves the time format (ie. H:MM), but the
> lower case p/m is becomes upper case P/M. The user defined cells are
> "locked" (MS terminology) and "unlocking" them the format changes to
> whatever MS deems to be appropriate.
> * ODF File: Generates an error, which Excel generously offers to fix,
> with the same result as for unlocking the cells in the XLS file.
>
> Unless someone with a better knowledge of Star
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
Den 24 mars 2012 13:11 skrev Dan Lewis : > On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 11:01 +, Brian Barker wrote: >> At 09:24 24/03/2012 +, E. Letter wrote: >> >On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to >> >select paragraph breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in >> >the 'find and replace' dialogue window? >> >> There isn't one. LibreOffice doesn't think that >> way: you don't search for the paragraph break as >> such. Instead, you do what you need using ^ >> (circumflex) to lock your search term to the >> beginning of a paragraph or $ (dollar) to lock it >> to the end of a paragraph. Perversely, you can >> search for a line break (as entered with >> Shift+Enter) using \n (backslash-en). Oh, but if >> you use \n in a "Replace with" expression, it means a paragraph break >> instead. >> >> I trust this helps. >> >> Brian Barker > > See if this works using Find and Replace with Regular Expressions > checked (ticked): > 1) Enter ^$ into the Search for box. > 2) Enter " zzz " (space then zzz then space) in the Replaced with box. > 3) Click the Replace All button. This replaces the second paragraph > break > used for spacing between paragraphs. > 4) Enter $ into the Search for box. > 5) Enter a space in the Replaced with box. > 6) Click the Replace All button. > 7) Enter " zzz " in the Search for box. > 8) Enter \n in the Replaced with box. > 9) Click the Replaced All button. > The first three steps replaces the empty paragraphs used for > spacing with the word "zzz" (space before and after the zzz allows a > later search for it). The middle three steps replaces the rest of the > paragraph breaks used as line breaks with a space. (This guarantees a > space between the last word of one line and the first word of the next > line.) The last three steps replaces the word "zzz" with a paragraph > break. > One more search might need to be made: replace any double spaces > with a single space. > > --Dan I wrote a simple macro (just a draft, feel free to modify it in anyway) that does it all. It's based on Dan's post above: REM * BASIC * Sub Main Dim sFind As String, sReplace As String sFind="^$" sReplace="¶" SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) sFind="$" sReplace=" " SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) sFind="¶" sReplace="\n" SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) sFind=" " sReplace=" " SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) sFind="^ " sReplace="" SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) sFind=" $" sReplace="" SearchAndReplace(sFind, sReplace) End Sub Sub SearchAndReplace(a As String, b As String) Dim Descriptor As Object Descriptor=ThisComponent.createReplaceDescriptor() With Descriptor .SearchString=a .ReplaceString=b .SearchRegularExpression=True .SearchAll=True End With ThisComponent.replaceAll(Descriptor) End Sub -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 13:23 +0100, Nino Novak wrote: > On Saturday 24 March 2012, 08:11:27 Dan Lewis wrote: > > > See if this works using Find and Replace with Regular Expressions > > checked (ticked): > > Dan, > > a very good step-by-step instruction. Did it make it into > ask.libreoffice.org? > IMHO you should enter it there as its visibility there can be better enhanced > than in the list by tagging/honoring. > > (just my 2¢ suggestion) > > Nino No, and it is not likely to make it there because I don't like the idea of an Open ID (personal reasons). Well, it would be alright if they included my user name/password for either the LibreOffice wiki or Alfresco used by the documentation team writing guides for LO. (But then this is OT.) However, anyone else who can sign/in to the site have my permission to post it for others to see. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On Saturday 24 March 2012, 12:27:57 e-letter wrote: > Subsequent posts indicate why it is much easier to solve this question > by use of a text editor instead of LO. ... and perhaps even in the shell using html2text, grep, sed, awk... (as the OP asked for *automation* of the process) ;-) But still we should show that it's also doable with LibreOffice (and it's not that much more complicated). Nino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On 24/03/2012, e-letter wrote: > On 23/03/2012, Doug wrote: >> Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format >> for publication. >> The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double >> carriage return >> for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the >> end of each line, so >> the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph >> controls, or just leave >> as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by >> hand, but it's a pain. >> Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? >> > > This is quickly performed by using regular expressions, either in LO > or more easily in any decent text editor. > > On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to select paragraph > breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in the 'find and replace' dialogue window? > Subsequent posts indicate why it is much easier to solve this question by use of a text editor instead of LO. For example, it seems that double carriage return is equivalent to an empty line. As for the line feed a simple remove may be achieved in jedit: find \n replace with [empty field] would remove new lines and replace with a space ( ) character. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On Saturday 24 March 2012, 08:11:27 Dan Lewis wrote: > See if this works using Find and Replace with Regular Expressions > checked (ticked): Dan, a very good step-by-step instruction. Did id make it into ask.libreoffice.org? IMHO you should enter it there as its visibility there can be better enhanced than in the list by tagging/honoring. (just my 2¢ suggestion) Nino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 11:01 +, Brian Barker wrote: > At 09:24 24/03/2012 +, E. Letter wrote: > >On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to > >select paragraph breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in > >the 'find and replace' dialogue window? > > There isn't one. LibreOffice doesn't think that > way: you don't search for the paragraph break as > such. Instead, you do what you need using ^ > (circumflex) to lock your search term to the > beginning of a paragraph or $ (dollar) to lock it > to the end of a paragraph. Perversely, you can > search for a line break (as entered with > Shift+Enter) using \n (backslash-en). Oh, but if > you use \n in a "Replace with" expression, it means a paragraph break instead. > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker See if this works using Find and Replace with Regular Expressions checked (ticked): 1) Enter ^$ into the Search for box. 2) Enter " zzz " (space then zzz then space) in the Replaced with box. 3) Click the Replace All button. This replaces the second paragraph break used for spacing between paragraphs. 4) Enter $ into the Search for box. 5) Enter a space in the Replaced with box. 6) Click the Replace All button. 7) Enter " zzz " in the Search for box. 8) Enter \n in the Replaced with box. 9) Click the Replaced All button. The first three steps replaces the empty paragraphs used for spacing with the word "zzz" (space before and after the zzz allows a later search for it). The middle three steps replaces the rest of the paragraph breaks used as line breaks with a space. (This guarantees a space between the last word of one line and the first word of the next line.) The last three steps replaces the word "zzz" with a paragraph break. One more search might need to be made: replace any double spaces with a single space. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
At 09:24 24/03/2012 +, E. Letter wrote: On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to select paragraph breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in the 'find and replace' dialogue window? There isn't one. LibreOffice doesn't think that way: you don't search for the paragraph break as such. Instead, you do what you need using ^ (circumflex) to lock your search term to the beginning of a paragraph or $ (dollar) to lock it to the end of a paragraph. Perversely, you can search for a line break (as entered with Shift+Enter) using \n (backslash-en). Oh, but if you use \n in a "Replace with" expression, it means a paragraph break instead. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
2012/3/24 e-letter : > On 23/03/2012, Doug wrote: >> Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format >> for publication. >> The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double >> carriage return >> for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the >> end of each line, so >> the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph >> controls, or just leave >> as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by >> hand, but it's a pain. >> Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? >> > > This is quickly performed by using regular expressions, either in LO > or more easily in any decent text editor. > > On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to select paragraph > breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in the 'find and replace' dialogue window? As far as I know, that can't be done (only ↵, that is Shift+¶, can be found), and that's why Search And Replace won't work in this case. I think there is a workaround, but I don't remember how… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On Saturday 24 March 2012, 09:24:48 e-letter wrote: > On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to select paragraph > breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in the 'find and replace' dialogue window? "$", see LibreOffice Help (F1) -> Index -> regular expressions. Nino -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On 23/03/2012, Doug wrote: > Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format > for publication. > The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double > carriage return > for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the > end of each line, so > the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph > controls, or just leave > as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by > hand, but it's a pain. > Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? > This is quickly performed by using regular expressions, either in LO or more easily in any decent text editor. On a separate issue, what is the syntax in LO to select paragraph breaks (pilcrow (¶) sign) in the 'find and replace' dialogue window? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
At 15:59 23/03/2012 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format for publication. The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double carriage return for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the end of each line, so the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph controls, or just leave as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by hand, but it's a pain. Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? Yes. First recombining the lines into paragraphs: o Go to Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options, and tick "Combine single line paragraphs if length greater than 50%". o Go to Format | AutoCorrect > | Apply. Notes: o You may need to reduce that value of 50% to make the facility work properly in your case. Click on the text of the option and the Edit... button below will light up and enable you to edit the 50% value to a suitable smaller one. o Applying AutoCorrect will make other changes to your text - which you may not want. You can avoid this in two ways: either switch off unwanted changes in the AutoCorrect dialogue or - more easily - use Format | AutoCorrect > | Apply and Edit Changes instead. Then choose Edit Changes when challenged. Now click the Comment column header in the Accept or Reject AutoFormat Changes panel; this sorts all the changes of a particular type together. Select all the "Combine paragraphs" lines together (using Shift-click or Shift-arrow in the usual way) and click Accept. Now click Reject All to reject all other changes. Now to remove empty paragraphs: o In the Find & Replace dialogue, click More Options, and then tick "Regular expressions". o Search for ^$ - that's circumflex-dollar - and replace with nothing. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On 23 March 2012 14:59, Doug wrote: > Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format for > publication. > The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double > carriage return > for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the end of > each line, so > the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph controls, > or just leave > as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by hand, > but it's a pain. > Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? Search and replace #1 - search for double carriage return and replace with manual page break Search and replace #2 - search for carriage return and replace with space Search and replace #3 - search for manual page break and replace with (double) carriage return -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
On 03/23/2012 04:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Which OS? How about search&replace the double first and then deal with the remaining singles? Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 23/3/12, Doug wrote: From: Doug Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 23 March, 2012, 19:59 Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format for publication. The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double carriage return for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the end of each line, so the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph controls, or just leave as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by hand, but it's a pain. Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? Thanx--doug Well, if I knew how to replace the doubles with a paragraph marker, I could do that. Then if I knew how to delete the singles, I could do that also. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, I don't know how to do that. The os is PCLinuxOs. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails
Hi :) Which OS? How about search&replace the double first and then deal with the remaining singles? Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 23/3/12, Doug wrote: From: Doug Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting emails To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 23 March, 2012, 19:59 Interesting problem: An email text is received which you need to format for publication. The email uses a carriage return at the end of each line, and a double carriage return for paragraph spacing. What I'd like to do is remove the cr's at the end of each line, so the text can be justified, and turn the double cr's into paragraph controls, or just leave as double cr's. Obviously all this can be done a line at a time by hand, but it's a pain. Is there any way someone can suggest to automate this? Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On 11/28/2011 08:29 AM, txapollo243 wrote: I was wondering if there is a nice way of formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer (I use the 3.3.2 version). I know it can be done manually by changing the source code's paragraph's font to something distinct like Courier or Courier New, but I am looking for something more aesthetically pleasing. I mean not only using an appropriate font, but also reserved words-specific coloring, indentation, e.t.c. Is there a plugin to do this? The question came to me because of an 8085 Assembly project at my university, in which we have to provide reports to our instructor, but certainly it could also be useful for writing reports for projects based on other programming languages. I take it that you need to format 8085 Assembler Is this correct? If you are willing to do a bit of work yourself, I am willing to write the parser and integrate this into the extension. The extension currently only supports: Basic, C++, Java, Perl, Python, R, XML, and C#. I have not done assembly in years, so I am very rusty on the syntax and similar. The colorizer recognizes the following things and colorizes them separately: Comments Literals Keywords Identifiers Special characters (such as periods, commas, parenthesis, etc). Things I would require (that we can work out in private email): (1) List of keywords (2) list of special characters (3) How to identify comments (4) What do I need to know to format the listings? (5) What colors might be common for the identified types? For item (4), it may be as simple as : Stuff like that so we can determine if this is sufficient. Perhaps you need to recognize registers using a different character style. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On 11/28/2011 09:03 AM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 13:50 +, e-letter wrote: Perhaps try to create a style (e.g. call it 'source code text', then format that style in terms of size, font, colour, indentation etc. and apply the style accordingly. There is an extension for this already - it's available (sometimes) from the old OO.o extension site. Andrew Pitonyak is the author - I'll drop him a line and maybe he can be nudged into adding to the LibO extension site. //drew I am currently waiting on approval to upload the extension. The extension uses styles to colorize source code for easy/pretty viewing. If you need / desire a copy before it is approved for the LO site, drop me a line and I will e-mail it to you. I am currently seeing it here: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/code-colorizer-formatter/ I cannot upload a copy there until they approve it. I am hesitant to load it on my web site since it should live on the original site. The text that I created (in case it is not currently visible) is: Colorize Basic, C++, Java, Perl, Python, R, XML, and C#. A simple parser is used to identify elements in the supported languages; for example, keywords, literals, comments, and operators. Each element type is set to use a specific character style. The style sets the color used for that portion. In BASIC, the colors resemble those used by the Basic IDE. This allows for "pretty" code fragments in a Writer document. Menu options exist to "colorize" selected text in the specified language. I format my code snippets using paragraph styles. I place the cursor in the code snippet and then use Tools > Addons > MacroFormatterADP > Colorize Basic to colorize the current paragraph and all adjacent paragraphs that use a paragraph style that identifies the paragraph as code. The currently supported paragraph styles are "_OOoComputerCode", "_OOoComputerCodeInTable", "_OOoComputerCodeLastLine", "_code", "_code_first_line", "_code_last_line", and "_code_one_line". It is up to the user to make sure code is formatted using a paragraph style with one of the supported names. Note that my macro documents contain these styles, and, they can be created in the current document using Tools > Addons > MacroFormatterADP > Create Paragraph Styles. When a paragraph style is created, it must have a next paragraph style. Some of the styles assume that the next paragraph style is a code type; for example, _OOoComputerCode style assumes that the next paragraph style is _OOoComputerCode. OOoComputerCodeLastLine, however, assumes that the next paragraph style is OOoTextBody. This is used when the paragraph styles are created. Use Tools > Addons > MacroFormatterADP > Configure to set the Font name, the next paragraph style, text size, and where tab stops should be set. I attempted to configure appropriate localizations for English, French, German, Spanish, Russian, and Japanese. I have no abilities in some of these languages, so, feel free to provide corrections. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On 28/11/2011, drew wrote: > > There is an extension for this already - it's available (sometimes) from > the old OO.o extension site. Andrew Pitonyak is the author - I'll drop > him a line and maybe he can be nudged into adding to the LibO extension > site. > Without knowing details of the extension, are you saying it is preferable to use an extension instead of styles. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, txapollo243 wrote: I was wondering if there is a nice way of formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer (I use the 3.3.2 version). I know it can be done manually by changing the source code's paragraph's font to something distinct like Courier or Courier New, but I am looking for something more aesthetically pleasing. I mean not only using an appropriate font, but also reserved words-specific coloring, indentation, e.t.c. Is there a plugin to do this? The question came to me because of an 8085 Assembly project at my university, in which we have to provide reports to our instructor, but certainly it could also be useful for writing reports for projects based on other programming languages. I have tried different googling combinations, but because of the common use of the term "source code" in the context of development, all of the results were irrelevant. There are two options that I currently know of, and one I would like to implement. The use-case is a bit different, but it does work. It's not a plugin though, but maybe that's not that hard to do. The options are: - GNU source-highlight (with the .outlang from the asciidoc-odf project) https://github.com/dagwieers/asciidoc-odf/tree/master/filters/source - AsciiDoc's code-filter (with ODF support from the asciidoc-odf project) https://github.com/dagwieers/asciidoc-odf/tree/master/filters/code And potentially: - pygments (ODF output does not exist yet, not a priority for me atm) https://github.com/dagwieers/asciidoc-odf/issues/20 These programs output ODF when you provide it source-code either by piping, or using an option. When you pipe source-code it usually outputs ODF snippets (without styles). If you provide a file on the command line, it generates a Flat ODF file. AsciiDoc's code-filter is more basic and by default does not use colors. GNU source-highlight works as expected and supports more languages. Only yesterday I added placeholder README files, I still need to add command line examples and more information, but I only yesterday received feedback that code-filter would no longer ship with AsciiDoc. The pygments implementation looks interesting, because of the wide support of languages. There are two options in using GNU source-highlight (and future pygments). Either add/import the styles from another document (to have the colors) or have GNU source-highligh create a complete separate .fodt and import the document. Without the styles it won't show anything ! The asciidoc-odf project uses those three (mutual-exclusive) methods during generating ODF, so it is well integrated. I would like to have feedback on the default output of GNU source-highlight. We might be able to improve the output before it gets included in the upstream project. Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Simos Xenitellis < simos.li...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM, txapollo243 wrote: > >> Hello to all, >> >> I was wondering if there is a nice way of formatting source code snippets >> in LibreOffice Writer (I use the 3.3.2 version). I know it can be done >> manually by changing the source code's paragraph's font to something >> distinct like Courier or Courier New, but I am looking for something more >> aesthetically pleasing. I mean not only using an appropriate font, but >> also >> reserved words-specific coloring, indentation, e.t.c. Is there a plugin to >> do this? The question came to me because of an 8085 Assembly project at my >> university, in which we have to provide reports to our instructor, but >> certainly it could also be useful for writing reports for projects based >> on >> other programming languages. >> >> I have tried different googling combinations, but because of the common >> use >> of the term "source code" in the context of development, all of the >> results >> were irrelevant. >> >> > First of all, the search term is «syntax highlighting» and what you are > looking for is a good idea for a LibreOffice addon. > I had a look at the available LibreOffice addons/extensions and there is a > mention for Coooder, > by http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/ > See also http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/?p=557 > My quick search did not find Coooder available as an extension, ready to > install. If someone can look a bit further into this, it would be great. > I tried the package found at http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/?p=103 However it's an old package and gives an exception when trying to install. The source code for the extension is available at http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/ooo-build/trunk/extensions/coooder/ so it could work again if someone can try to repackage it for LibreOffice. It would be good to have a syntax highlighting extension for Libreoffice. The basic functionality for the highlighting is done using an existing tool such as http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/11-syntax-highlighters-to-beautify-code-presentation/ (Coooder uses GeSHI). Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 13:50 +, e-letter wrote: > Perhaps try to create a style (e.g. call it 'source code text', then > format that style in terms of size, font, colour, indentation etc. and > apply the style accordingly. > There is an extension for this already - it's available (sometimes) from the old OO.o extension site. Andrew Pitonyak is the author - I'll drop him a line and maybe he can be nudged into adding to the LibO extension site. //drew -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
Perhaps try to create a style (e.g. call it 'source code text', then format that style in terms of size, font, colour, indentation etc. and apply the style accordingly. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting source code snippets in LibreOffice Writer
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM, txapollo243 wrote: > Hello to all, > > I was wondering if there is a nice way of formatting source code snippets > in LibreOffice Writer (I use the 3.3.2 version). I know it can be done > manually by changing the source code's paragraph's font to something > distinct like Courier or Courier New, but I am looking for something more > aesthetically pleasing. I mean not only using an appropriate font, but also > reserved words-specific coloring, indentation, e.t.c. Is there a plugin to > do this? The question came to me because of an 8085 Assembly project at my > university, in which we have to provide reports to our instructor, but > certainly it could also be useful for writing reports for projects based on > other programming languages. > > I have tried different googling combinations, but because of the common use > of the term "source code" in the context of development, all of the results > were irrelevant. > > First of all, the search term is «syntax highlighting» and what you are looking for is a good idea for a LibreOffice addon. I had a look at the available LibreOffice addons/extensions and there is a mention for Coooder, by http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/ See also http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/?p=557 My quick search did not find Coooder available as an extension, ready to install. If someone can look a bit further into this, it would be great. Simos Greek LibreOffice community: http://el.libreoffice.org/get-help/get-help-mailing-lists/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Hi :) It might be more productive to contact their webmaster/mistrees or find the people that develop the site somehow. They might be able to giive better advice on how to format stuff. Regards from Tom :) From: Night To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 9:59:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question Sorry it took so long to get back, I was on vacation, but did get a little time to look into it and while I am going to use everyones suggestions it turns out it's not LO but the site I upload to. It reformats and I have to go in through their editor to fix it. Pain. Anyway, again I am going to attempt everyones suggestions in hopes maybe one or all will override this. Thanks again! > Night wrote: >> >>>> No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with >>>> OpenOffice and >>>>assumed it would work like OpenOffice. >>> >>> So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and >>> have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. >>> You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it >>> will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is >>> bad form and will lead to formatting issues. >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >> Yes, that's it! And it worked with OpenOffice and since they seemed so >> similar >>(except LibreOffice is nice, light and quick where OO was slow and clunky), I >>thought it would work, but once saved and uploaded, I look and it didn't. So >>I >>didn't even know it wasn't working till it was all said and done. >> So, another question would be how do I go about styling paragraphs? Again, >> I'm >>new and never had to worry about it with OO. >> >> Thank you! > > It should be working, as I said it works as expected here. > > As for styles there is no quick answer. Styles are used to define how > pages, paragraphs and characters look on a page. You best choice is to > got to http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ and download > or read the Working with Styles chapter of the Writers guide. > > Andy > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Sorry it took so long to get back, I was on vacation, but did get a little time to look into it and while I am going to use everyones suggestions it turns out it's not LO but the site I upload to. It reformats and I have to go in through their editor to fix it. Pain. Anyway, again I am going to attempt everyones suggestions in hopes maybe one or all will override this. Thanks again! > Night wrote: >> No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. >>> >>> So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and >>> have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. >>> You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it >>> will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is >>> bad form and will lead to formatting issues. >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >> Yes, that's it! And it worked with OpenOffice and since they seemed so >> similar (except LibreOffice is nice, light and quick where OO was slow and >> clunky), I thought it would work, but once saved and uploaded, I look and it >> didn't. So I didn't even know it wasn't working till it was all said and >> done. >> So, another question would be how do I go about styling paragraphs? Again, >> I'm new and never had to worry about it with OO. >> >> Thank you! > > It should be working, as I said it works as expected here. > > As for styles there is no quick answer. Styles are used to define how > pages, paragraphs and characters look on a page. You best choice is to > got to http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ and download > or read the Working with Styles chapter of the Writers guide. > > Andy > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
oho,ok then i guess On 21 July 2011 22:30, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > People get attachments if they are CC'd directly or included in the "To" > field > in the email. No attachments get through from the list. You didn't do > anything > wrong. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Thu, 21 July, 2011 17:39:29 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > hay tom,other people is able to attach file in the mailing list;but my > attached file was not visible.what mistake have i committed? > > On 20 July 2011 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > > I read and write OOXML files in Office 2003 all the time, and have since > > the compatibility pack was released. I still use that for testing > purposes > > (and testing of the open-source ODF converter that works with Office 2003 > > also). I've not stumbled on any material compatibility issues except > when > > Office 2003 simply can't handle an up-level feature (such as expanded > > change-tracking capability), and then the degradation tends to be > > non-catastrophic. > > > > I shall bite my tongue about the rest of your unsupported statements, but > > for two. (1) ODF 1.2 was not available as a stable Committee > Specification > > (still not yet an OASIS standard, but soon) until March 2011. Office > 2007 > > SP1 came out when? How do you consider the "newer-spec" being any of the > > things you say, and how could that have mattered for Office 2007? (2) > The > > OOXML formats are described in ISO/IEC Standard IS 29500:2008, the > downloads > > are free from ISO (if you know where to look) and the ECMA equivalents > are > > also free for download. What's secret about that? > > > > ODF 1.0 is also the current level of the ISO Standard, which is specified > > in many international contexts. I recall Microsoft saying they would be > ODF > > 1.1 compatible (since the deviations from ODF 1.0 are minor and the > > incorporation of accessibility support in 1.1 is important) even though > it > > hadn't achieved international-standard status. > > > > Also, it is important to understand that ODF 1.x compatibility and > > compatibility with OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice are different things. > > > > I am willing to overlook your various opinions about Microsoft products, > > but these kinds of unsupported material claims deserve public > fact-checking. > > > > - Dennis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:30 > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > > libreoffice writer > > > > Hi :) > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > upload > > the > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > > private > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > > happened. > > > > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other > people. > > Even > > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > > MS > > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > > before > > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > > they > > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about > and > > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement > it > > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > > anyone can > > open the document. > > > > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and > then > > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > > settings > > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > > Format > > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > > (recommended)" to > > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
Hi :) People get attachments if they are CC'd directly or included in the "To" field in the email. No attachments get through from the list. You didn't do anything wrong. Regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 21 July, 2011 17:39:29 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer hay tom,other people is able to attach file in the mailing list;but my attached file was not visible.what mistake have i committed? On 20 July 2011 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I read and write OOXML files in Office 2003 all the time, and have since > the compatibility pack was released. I still use that for testing purposes > (and testing of the open-source ODF converter that works with Office 2003 > also). I've not stumbled on any material compatibility issues except when > Office 2003 simply can't handle an up-level feature (such as expanded > change-tracking capability), and then the degradation tends to be > non-catastrophic. > > I shall bite my tongue about the rest of your unsupported statements, but > for two. (1) ODF 1.2 was not available as a stable Committee Specification > (still not yet an OASIS standard, but soon) until March 2011. Office 2007 > SP1 came out when? How do you consider the "newer-spec" being any of the > things you say, and how could that have mattered for Office 2007? (2) The > OOXML formats are described in ISO/IEC Standard IS 29500:2008, the downloads > are free from ISO (if you know where to look) and the ECMA equivalents are > also free for download. What's secret about that? > > ODF 1.0 is also the current level of the ISO Standard, which is specified > in many international contexts. I recall Microsoft saying they would be ODF > 1.1 compatible (since the deviations from ODF 1.0 are minor and the > incorporation of accessibility support in 1.1 is important) even though it > hadn't achieved international-standard status. > > Also, it is important to understand that ODF 1.x compatibility and > compatibility with OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice are different things. > > I am willing to overlook your various opinions about Microsoft products, > but these kinds of unsupported material claims deserve public fact-checking. > > - Dennis > > -Original Message----- > From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:30 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice writer > > Hi :) > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload > the > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > private > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > happened. > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. > Even > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > MS > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > before > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > they > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > anyone can > open the document. > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > settings > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > Format > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > (recommended)" to > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office > just > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > the > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back > up > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > templates > which gets really messy. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
hay tom,other people is able to attach file in the mailing list;but my attached file was not visible.what mistake have i committed? On 20 July 2011 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I read and write OOXML files in Office 2003 all the time, and have since > the compatibility pack was released. I still use that for testing purposes > (and testing of the open-source ODF converter that works with Office 2003 > also). I've not stumbled on any material compatibility issues except when > Office 2003 simply can't handle an up-level feature (such as expanded > change-tracking capability), and then the degradation tends to be > non-catastrophic. > > I shall bite my tongue about the rest of your unsupported statements, but > for two. (1) ODF 1.2 was not available as a stable Committee Specification > (still not yet an OASIS standard, but soon) until March 2011. Office 2007 > SP1 came out when? How do you consider the "newer-spec" being any of the > things you say, and how could that have mattered for Office 2007? (2) The > OOXML formats are described in ISO/IEC Standard IS 29500:2008, the downloads > are free from ISO (if you know where to look) and the ECMA equivalents are > also free for download. What's secret about that? > > ODF 1.0 is also the current level of the ISO Standard, which is specified > in many international contexts. I recall Microsoft saying they would be ODF > 1.1 compatible (since the deviations from ODF 1.0 are minor and the > incorporation of accessibility support in 1.1 is important) even though it > hadn't achieved international-standard status. > > Also, it is important to understand that ODF 1.x compatibility and > compatibility with OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice are different things. > > I am willing to overlook your various opinions about Microsoft products, > but these kinds of unsupported material claims deserve public fact-checking. > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:30 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice writer > > Hi :) > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload > the > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > private > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > happened. > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. > Even > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > MS > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > before > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > they > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > anyone can > open the document. > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > settings > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > Format > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > (recommended)" to > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office > just > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > the > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back > up > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > templates > which gets really messy. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice > writer > > hi, > just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. > i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and > closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice > itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page boundary.this > made
RE: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
I read and write OOXML files in Office 2003 all the time, and have since the compatibility pack was released. I still use that for testing purposes (and testing of the open-source ODF converter that works with Office 2003 also). I've not stumbled on any material compatibility issues except when Office 2003 simply can't handle an up-level feature (such as expanded change-tracking capability), and then the degradation tends to be non-catastrophic. I shall bite my tongue about the rest of your unsupported statements, but for two. (1) ODF 1.2 was not available as a stable Committee Specification (still not yet an OASIS standard, but soon) until March 2011. Office 2007 SP1 came out when? How do you consider the "newer-spec" being any of the things you say, and how could that have mattered for Office 2007? (2) The OOXML formats are described in ISO/IEC Standard IS 29500:2008, the downloads are free from ISO (if you know where to look) and the ECMA equivalents are also free for download. What's secret about that? ODF 1.0 is also the current level of the ISO Standard, which is specified in many international contexts. I recall Microsoft saying they would be ODF 1.1 compatible (since the deviations from ODF 1.0 are minor and the incorporation of accessibility support in 1.1 is important) even though it hadn't achieved international-standard status. Also, it is important to understand that ODF 1.x compatibility and compatibility with OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice are different things. I am willing to overlook your various opinions about Microsoft products, but these kinds of unsupported material claims deserve public fact-checking. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:30 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer Hi :) Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload the files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my private email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have happened. The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. Even DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with MS Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office before their 2007 can't read DocX at all. MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but they use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost anyone can open the document. To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful settings and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF Format Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended (recommended)" to "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office just by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change the "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back up the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as templates which gets really messy. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer hi, just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page boundary.this made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. i am attaching 3 files here-- .odt-what i have written .doc-what i am expecting .docx-what i am getting please help me and thanks in advance -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted --
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
of course;you are right On 20 July 2011 20:49, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > MS could have good reason to make sure that Odt doesn't work properly in > their > products. It would force people to use MS formats and they might hope that > would mean forcing people to buy their latest product, MS Office 2010, > before > the new release gets out. MS are a profit making company and profit is > their > number 1 objective. Their number 1 objective is not to help everyone > communicate with each other easily! If you view things from that point of > view > a lot of weird things they do make sense. > > > The Odt is not much smaller than the Doc in this specific case but in > general it > might be. The dragging thing was worth repeating just in case my systems > handled it different but in both Ubuntu using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and Windows > using LibreOffice 3.3.3 i got the same results and using the older 1.0/1.1 > versions of the Odt format didn't make any difference. Which was something > i > have been wondering for a while so it was good to be able to test it :) > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 16:08:06 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already. > so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i > am > more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so > will post a bug report. > odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!! > anyway,thanks for the help > On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so > > it's > > worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report > > but > > because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so > > don't > > expect swift results! > > > > > > Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked > fine, > > just > > like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved > it > > as > > version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just > > looks > > weird in LibreOffice. > > > > > > The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with > the > > table stretching off the page. I switched to > > > > View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and > > saved > > the page again but suffered the same problem. > > > > DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. > > DocX > > does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. > DocX > > 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. > > You > > can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip > > although the > > results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's > > very > > weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts > > of a > > document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. > > > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > > libreoffice > > writer > > > > i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the > files > > yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in > > libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document > > totally!libreoffice itself could not open the document it > > created properly! > > anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as > > much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the > > settings. > > > > On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies wrote: > > > > > Hi :) > > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > > upload > > > the > > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use > my > > > private > > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
Hi :) MS could have good reason to make sure that Odt doesn't work properly in their products. It would force people to use MS formats and they might hope that would mean forcing people to buy their latest product, MS Office 2010, before the new release gets out. MS are a profit making company and profit is their number 1 objective. Their number 1 objective is not to help everyone communicate with each other easily! If you view things from that point of view a lot of weird things they do make sense. The Odt is not much smaller than the Doc in this specific case but in general it might be. The dragging thing was worth repeating just in case my systems handled it different but in both Ubuntu using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and Windows using LibreOffice 3.3.3 i got the same results and using the older 1.0/1.1 versions of the Odt format didn't make any difference. Which was something i have been wondering for a while so it was good to be able to test it :) Regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 16:08:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already. so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i am more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so will post a bug report. odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!! anyway,thanks for the help On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so > it's > worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report > but > because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so > don't > expect swift results! > > > Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked fine, > just > like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved it > as > version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just > looks > weird in LibreOffice. > > > The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with the > table stretching off the page. I switched to > > View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and > saved > the page again but suffered the same problem. > > DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. > DocX > does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. DocX > 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. > You > can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip > although the > results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's > very > weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts > of a > document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the files > yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in > libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document > totally!libreoffice itself could not open the document it > created properly! > anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as > much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the > settings. > > On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > upload > > the > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > > private > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > > happened. > > > > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other > people. > > Even > > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > > MS > > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > > before > > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > > they > > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out abo
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already. so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i am more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so will post a bug report. odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!! anyway,thanks for the help On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so > it's > worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report > but > because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so > don't > expect swift results! > > > Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked fine, > just > like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved it > as > version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just > looks > weird in LibreOffice. > > > The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with the > table stretching off the page. I switched to > > View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and > saved > the page again but suffered the same problem. > > DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. > DocX > does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. DocX > 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. > You > can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip > although the > results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's > very > weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts > of a > document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in > libreoffice > writer > > i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the files > yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in > libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document > totally!libreoffice itself could not open the document it > created properly! > anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as > much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the > settings. > > On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you > upload > > the > > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > > private > > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > > happened. > > > > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other > people. > > Even > > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > > MS > > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > > before > > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > > they > > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about > and > > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement > it > > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > > anyone can > > open the document. > > > > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and > then > > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > > settings > > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > > Format > > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > > (recommended)" to > > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS > Office > > just > > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > > the > > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll > back > > up > > t
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
Hi :) Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so it's worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report but because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so don't expect swift results! Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked fine, just like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved it as version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just looks weird in LibreOffice. The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with the table stretching off the page. I switched to View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and saved the page again but suffered the same problem. DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why. DocX does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc. DocX 'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files. You can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip although the results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's very weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts of a document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable. Regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the files yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document totally!libreoffice itself could not open the document it created properly! anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the settings. On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload > the > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > private > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > happened. > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. > Even > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > MS > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > before > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > they > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > anyone can > open the document. > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > settings > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > Format > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > (recommended)" to > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office > just > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > the > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back > up > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > templates > which gets really messy. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice > writer > > hi, > just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. > i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and > closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice > itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page boundary.this > made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. > i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. > i am attaching 3 files here-- > .odt-what i have written &g
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the files yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document totally!libreoffice itself could not open the document it created properly! anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the settings. On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload > the > files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my > private > email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the > attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have > happened. > > > The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. > Even > DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with > MS > Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office > before > their 2007 can't read DocX at all. > > > MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but > they > use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and > implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it > properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost > anyone can > open the document. > > > To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then > right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful > settings > and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside > "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF > Format > Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended > (recommended)" to > "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office > just > by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change > the > "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for > Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back > up > the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as > templates > which gets really messy. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: soumalya ray > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice > writer > > hi, > just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. > i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and > closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice > itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page boundary.this > made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. > i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. > i am attaching 3 files here-- > .odt-what i have written > .doc-what i am expecting > .docx-what i am getting > please help me and thanks in advance > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer
Hi :) Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you upload the files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use my private email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have happened. The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other people. Even DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed with MS Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS Office before their 2007 can't read DocX at all. MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format but they use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about and implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement it properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost anyone can open the document. To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and then right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful settings and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the + beside "Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF Format Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended (recommended)" to "1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS Office just by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can change the "Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll back up the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as templates which gets really messy. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05 Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in libreoffice writer hi, just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2. i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page boundary.this made the last column invisible for all practical purposes. i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it. i am attaching 3 files here-- .odt-what i have written .doc-what i am expecting .docx-what i am getting please help me and thanks in advance -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
On 18/07/11 09:35, Night wrote: No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is bad form and will lead to formatting issues. Andy Yes, that's it! And it worked with OpenOffice and since they seemed so similar (except LibreOffice is nice, light and quick where OO was slow and clunky), I thought it would work, but once saved and uploaded, I look and it didn't. So I didn't even know it wasn't working till it was all said and done. So, another question would be how do I go about styling paragraphs? Again, I'm new and never had to worry about it with OO. Thank you! Hi Night, Check out the PDF manual for writer. It has a good chapter on the "Introduction to Styles". http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/b/ba/0200WG3-WriterGuide.pdf (11MB) Read this then post specific questions. -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Website Administrator http://www.fossworkflowguides.com The fossWorkflow Guides (c) Simon Cropper CC-BY-SA 3.0 Australia http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/au/deed.en -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Night wrote: > >>> No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice >>> and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. >> >> So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and >> have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. >> You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it >> will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is >> bad form and will lead to formatting issues. >> >> Andy >> > > Yes, that's it! And it worked with OpenOffice and since they seemed so > similar (except LibreOffice is nice, light and quick where OO was slow and > clunky), I thought it would work, but once saved and uploaded, I look and it > didn't. So I didn't even know it wasn't working till it was all said and done. > So, another question would be how do I go about styling paragraphs? Again, > I'm new and never had to worry about it with OO. > > Thank you! It should be working, as I said it works as expected here. As for styles there is no quick answer. Styles are used to define how pages, paragraphs and characters look on a page. You best choice is to got to http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ and download or read the Working with Styles chapter of the Writers guide. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
>> No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice >> and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. > > So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and > have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. > You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it > will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is > bad form and will lead to formatting issues. > > Andy > Yes, that's it! And it worked with OpenOffice and since they seemed so similar (except LibreOffice is nice, light and quick where OO was slow and clunky), I thought it would work, but once saved and uploaded, I look and it didn't. So I didn't even know it wasn't working till it was all said and done. So, another question would be how do I go about styling paragraphs? Again, I'm new and never had to worry about it with OO. Thank you! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Night wrote: > > [libreoffice-users] Formatting question > >> Night wrote: >>> >>> [libreoffice-users] Formatting question >>> Night wrote: > Hello! > > I was wondering if someone could help me with line spacing? Should be > easy and self explanatory, I'm sure, but I'm a complete newbie; I do have > it set to 1.5, but in some cases need to triple that. Problem is, when I > save the document, it doesn't save the 4.5 spacing. > Any suggestions please? > > Thank you, > > Steffanie What format, .doc or .odt. are you saving to? >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm saving as .odt. >> >> Are you using a paragraph style for the spacing change? >> >> Andy >> > > No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice > and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. So your using empty paragraphs, which should work. I just tried and have no problem. The way your doing it is one way but not the best. You should be using styles to define the looks of the paragraphs and it will be more consistent. Using a word processor like a typewriter is bad form and will lead to formatting issues. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
[libreoffice-users] Formatting question > Night wrote: >> >> [libreoffice-users] Formatting question >> >>> Night wrote: Hello! I was wondering if someone could help me with line spacing? Should be easy and self explanatory, I'm sure, but I'm a complete newbie; I do have it set to 1.5, but in some cases need to triple that. Problem is, when I save the document, it doesn't save the 4.5 spacing. Any suggestions please? Thank you, Steffanie >>> >>> What format, .doc or .odt. are you saving to? >>> >> >> >> >> I'm saving as .odt. > > Are you using a paragraph style for the spacing change? > > Andy > No, I don't change anything, I just hit enter 3x like I did with OpenOffice and assumed it would work like OpenOffice. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Night wrote: > > [libreoffice-users] Formatting question > >> Night wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I was wondering if someone could help me with line spacing? Should be easy >>> and self explanatory, I'm sure, but I'm a complete newbie; I do have it set >>> to 1.5, but in some cases need to triple that. Problem is, when I save the >>> document, it doesn't save the 4.5 spacing. >>> Any suggestions please? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Steffanie >> >> What format, .doc or .odt. are you saving to? >> > > > > I'm saving as .odt. Are you using a paragraph style for the spacing change? Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
[libreoffice-users] Formatting question > Night wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I was wondering if someone could help me with line spacing? Should be easy >> and self explanatory, I'm sure, but I'm a complete newbie; I do have it set >> to 1.5, but in some cases need to triple that. Problem is, when I save the >> document, it doesn't save the 4.5 spacing. >> Any suggestions please? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Steffanie > > What format, .doc or .odt. are you saving to? > I'm saving as .odt. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Formatting question
Night wrote: > Hello! > > I was wondering if someone could help me with line spacing? Should be easy > and self explanatory, I'm sure, but I'm a complete newbie; I do have it set > to 1.5, but in some cases need to triple that. Problem is, when I save the > document, it doesn't save the 4.5 spacing. > Any suggestions please? > > Thank you, > > Steffanie What format, .doc or .odt. are you saving to? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
Hi Barbara, Am 22.02.2011 20:50, schrieb Barbara Duprey: > > The toolbar can be docked to an edge -- I typically drag it to the > right edge, and when the gray frame appears I drop it. Sometimes if > LibO terminates abnormally the setting can be lost (or at least, > that's the case with OOo; haven't seen this yet with LibO). > thanks for the answer but in Kubuntu 10.04, installed as *.deb, it doesn't. Could be a bug (interfering with Kwin). Can anyone confirm? Karl-Heinz -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
On 2/22/2011 7:35 AM, Karl-Heinz Gödderz wrote: Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 10.04, LibreOffice 3.3.0 If I change a style/format I can't revert it with the revert/back-button, is this a bug? Assuming you mean Ctrl-Z (or Undo), I have no problem doing this on Win7. Next question: how to fix/pin the formats/styles-menu? Cheers Karl-Heinz The toolbar can be docked to an edge -- I typically drag it to the right edge, and when the gray frame appears I drop it. Sometimes if LibO terminates abnormally the setting can be lost (or at least, that's the case with OOo; haven't seen this yet with LibO). -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
