[users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread Tim Charron
Good Morning,
The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security 
audit done that recommended  we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 
or later.
I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and 
whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me 
comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding 
out how to do this upgrade.

I really appreciate any input you may have.

Tim Charron
Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709

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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread Mike Rumph

Hello Tim,

You could be begin with the Apache httpd 2.2 upgrade instructions at the 
following link:

- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/install.html#upgrading

Please, let us know what specific issues you run into.

Thanks,

Mike Rumph

On 10/2/2013 8:24 AM, Tim Charron wrote:

Good Morning,
The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security 
audit done that recommended  we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 
or later.
I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and 
whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me 
comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding 
out how to do this upgrade.

I really appreciate any input you may have.

Tim Charron
Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709

ADNET Technologies, LLC
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:24:30 +
Tim Charron tchar...@thinkadnet.com wrote:
 The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a
 security audit done that recommended  we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9
 installation to 2.2.15 or later. I have searched trying to find
 information on how to do this upgrade and whether or not it will
 break something and found nothing that made me comfortable doing
 this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding out how
 to do this upgrade.

If you needed to hire someone to install Apache you probably need to
hire someone to upgrade it.  For one thing, they may have done stuff
that was not quite standard.  For another, if things do break someone
will need to look at updating your local configs.

I see that you are in Farmington, CT.  Maybe someone local can help or,
if you are comfortable with it, someone can work remotely.  Either way,
you need to tell us what environment you are in, especially what
operating system you are using.

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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread John Hudak
I am a little surprised that they didn't recommend updating to 2.2.25 (the
latest in the 2.2.x branch) or move up to 2.4.x branch.  In any case.

What OS are you using?

I don't have the changes/issues from 2.2.9  through 2.2.15 in my headIf
you read the release notes for those versions, they should outline what
changed and what may need to be changed on your system.

My experience is that doing just about any Apache upgrade usually breaks
something.  They way I do it is to read the release notes and make sure I
understand the potential side effects of the update and  then look into
solutions to those potential problems so that if I do have a side effect, I
have some chance of resolving it.  I am not doing the upgrades on a
production system so I don't have the speed urgency.

If it is a production system, can you clone it, try the upgrade, see if it
works, and then switch over to the upgraded system??



On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tim Charron tchar...@thinkadnet.comwrote:

 Good Morning,
 The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a
 security audit done that recommended  we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9
 installation to 2.2.15 or later.
 I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and
 whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me
 comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for
 finding out how to do this upgrade.

 I really appreciate any input you may have.

 Tim Charron
 Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709

 ADNET Technologies, LLC
 www.thinkADNET.com | Follow @ADNETTech


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RE: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread Tim Charron
Thanks for that feed back, the OS is Windows 2003 R2 SP1

From: John Hudak [mailto:jjhu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:16 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

I am a little surprised that they didn't recommend updating to 2.2.25 (the 
latest in the 2.2.x branch) or move up to 2.4.x branch.  In any case.
What OS are you using?
I don't have the changes/issues from 2.2.9  through 2.2.15 in my headIf you 
read the release notes for those versions, they should outline what changed and 
what may need to be changed on your system.
My experience is that doing just about any Apache upgrade usually breaks 
something.  They way I do it is to read the release notes and make sure I 
understand the potential side effects of the update and  then look into 
solutions to those potential problems so that if I do have a side effect, I 
have some chance of resolving it.  I am not doing the upgrades on a production 
system so I don't have the speed urgency.
If it is a production system, can you clone it, try the upgrade, see if it 
works, and then switch over to the upgraded system??

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tim Charron 
tchar...@thinkadnet.commailto:tchar...@thinkadnet.com wrote:
Good Morning,
The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security 
audit done that recommended  we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 
or later.
I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and 
whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me 
comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding 
out how to do this upgrade.

I really appreciate any input you may have.

Tim Charron
Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709tel:%28860%29%20409-1709

ADNET Technologies, LLC
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA) matt.sher...@canberra.com wrote:
 As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
 originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP.  It was
 installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
 company.  Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
 2.2.15?

Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think.  The main issue
will be with local configuration.

 The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.

Not sure what that is.  Sounds like Windows?  Can't help you there if
it is.  I run Unix everywhere.

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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread Nick Tkach
Yes, if it's an option I'd *strongly* urge you to clone one of the servers
you're needing to upgrade (at least in terms of the Apache) and try the
upgrade there.  If you can clone it as a VM of some sort that would work
even better because you could set everything up, snapshot it, do your work,
and if there's a problem just roll it back.

A lot depends on which modules and how you're using them too.  Upgrades in
my experience have not been *quite* as bad if you're using just standard
Apache modules (like mod_rewrite).  If you're using third-party things that
Apache doesn't support directly, then you could run into issues with
versions there.

But then again, I've only ever done Apache on Solaris/Linux, so YMMV as
they say.



On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@vex.net wrote:

 On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
 SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA) matt.sher...@canberra.com wrote:
  As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
  originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP.  It was
  installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
  company.  Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
  2.2.15?

 Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think.  The main issue
 will be with local configuration.

  The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.

 Not sure what that is.  Sounds like Windows?  Can't help you there if
 it is.  I run Unix everywhere.

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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache

2013-10-02 Thread Colin 't Hart
Actually, it would be quite easy to unzip an Apache 2.4 build (or even just
a newer 2.2 build) next to the existing 2.2 install and configure it. Shut
down the existing 2.2 and start up the new 2.4 (or the new 2.2). It might
take a few goes back-n-forth, but if you can afford a little down time this
is the approach I would take.

Cheers,

Colin


On 2 October 2013 19:45, Nick Tkach ntk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, if it's an option I'd *strongly* urge you to clone one of the servers
 you're needing to upgrade (at least in terms of the Apache) and try the
 upgrade there.  If you can clone it as a VM of some sort that would work
 even better because you could set everything up, snapshot it, do your work,
 and if there's a problem just roll it back.

 A lot depends on which modules and how you're using them too.  Upgrades in
 my experience have not been *quite* as bad if you're using just standard
 Apache modules (like mod_rewrite).  If you're using third-party things that
 Apache doesn't support directly, then you could run into issues with
 versions there.

 But then again, I've only ever done Apache on Solaris/Linux, so YMMV as
 they say.



 On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@vex.net wrote:

 On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
 SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA) matt.sher...@canberra.com wrote:
  As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
  originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP.  It was
  installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
  company.  Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
  2.2.15?

 Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think.  The main issue
 will be with local configuration.

  The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.

 Not sure what that is.  Sounds like Windows?  Can't help you there if
 it is.  I run Unix everywhere.

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 D'Arcy J.M. Cain
 System Administrator, Vex.Net
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