Re: current/proposed docker-related packages?

2015-08-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:

 I have a related question about Fedora docker packages.  There seems
 to be a docker-engine at version 1.8.1 and docker at version 1.7.1.
 I'd like to have docker AND docker engine at the same version,
 preferably at 1.8.1.  I don't mind having to get docker-compose and
 docker-machine via the docker website directly, but it would also be
 nice to get them via the normal Fedora repositories.  Even though
 docker-machine appears to be broken for all Linux distributions that
 I've tried when running with a local vm (VirtualBox) rather than a
 cloud (AWS).  docker-swarm is still considered beta, so I could see
 why that might not be provided via a Fedora repository.

  you've summed up my wish list nicely ... i'm just trying to make a
list of where to get all the cool stuff in the docker ecosystem,
either as an official fedora package or, if not, then from docker.com
directly.

  as i read it (and i'm willing to be corrected), there will be some
package renaming in the near future, either synchronized with when
docker 1.8 gets packaged with fedora, or with f23, or maybe both. i
found this page of docker-related fedora packages:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/docker*/

and i know what *was* docker-io is now docker, and that's going to
become docker-engine, is it not? oddly, that list includes
docker-compose as being approved in f22, but i don't yet see it in
dnf search, so i can only assume it's coming. same thing with
docker-client? docker-machine? etc, etc.

  regarding other possible packages, i ran across this page at
docker.com, talking about kitematic:

  http://docs.docker.com/kitematic/

which refers to something called the docker toolbox, but it looks
like all that is windows/mac only:

  https://www.docker.com/toolbox

and as d walsh(?) mentioned recently, the improved builder dock has
been renamed to atomic-reactor. like i said, i'm just trying to keep
up.

rday

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Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:51:47 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote:

  dnf --refresh is more like dnf clean expire-cache, which sometimes
  gives additional updates to plain dnf upgrade, but there still seems
  some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available.
 
  Doubtful.
 
  dnf update --refresh here (Rawhide) always redownloads the metadata.
  That's behaviour like running after dnf clean metadata,
  not dnf clean expire-cache. [1]
 
 Neither dnf --refresh upgrade nor dnf clean expire-cache;dnf upgrade
 will try to download the base Fedora data (F22). Only dnf clean metadata
 plus dnf upgrade force a full refresh.

Rawhide. I refer to Rawhide! I cannot afford spending time on this issue
with F22 in addition to Rawhide.

dnf --refresh update here **always** redownloads the metadata.

 Just try it out. --refresh and clean expire-cache result in the same.
 That also matches the documentation. Both set the metadata some kind of
 expired but don't really remove the data.

Once more: doubtful. Whether --refresh doesn't remove the metadata is not
of interest, since it redownloads it afterwards anyway.

And whether it matches the documentation remains to be seen. I haven't
examined the implementation. Does --refresh really do anything to confirm
the checksum of the metadata cache before deciding to redownload? Then why
does it redownload always here?
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Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 dnf --refresh is more like dnf clean expire-cache, which sometimes
 gives additional updates to plain dnf upgrade, but there still seems
 some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available.

 Doubtful.

 dnf update --refresh here (Rawhide) always redownloads the metadata.
 That's behaviour like running after dnf clean metadata,
 not dnf clean expire-cache. [1]

Neither dnf --refresh upgrade nor dnf clean expire-cache;dnf upgrade
will try to download the base Fedora data (F22). Only dnf clean metadata
plus dnf upgrade force a full refresh.

Just try it out. --refresh and clean expire-cache result in the same.
That also matches the documentation. Both set the metadata some kind of
expired but don't really remove the data.

dnf clean metadata actually removes all metadata and therefore forces
a reload for all repositories. It's more like brute force. :-)

Also according the the DNF documentation (FAQ), dnf clean metadata is
the recommended way to get latest updates. That matches my experience.

Greetings, Andreas
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Firefox question

2015-08-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm running Fedora-22/KDE,
and am not sure if my query is a Fedora, KDE or Firefox query.

I notice that if I am viewing a page in Firefox,
pressing the down-key sometimes takes me down the page,
but sometimes does not.

Is this basically due to a difference in the HTML of the 2 pages?
Or is these some other explanation?
And is there any alternative to the down-key if it does not work?

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Re: nvidia proprietary driver and console

2015-08-16 Thread Pál , László
Update
Everything is fine including splash screen and themes after this small
modification. Hopefully it will be integrated into the upstream too

L
On 14 Aug 2015 22:49, Martin Cigorraga martincigorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 NVIDIA repo: http://negativo17.org/nvidia-repository-improvements/

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 16:32 Pál, László v...@vlad.hu wrote:

 Hi,

 Finally it has been found this is some kind of grub2 bug related to 16bit
 initrd thingies... :) after I've modified the script (10_linux) everything
 is fine. However because of my ecryptfs there is no nice spalsh screen, but
 this is my smallest problem :)

 bugreport
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196065

 solution
 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=301929#9



 On 14 August 2015 at 21:06, Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote:


 On Aug 14, 2015 2:58 PM, Pál, László v...@vlad.hu wrote:
 
  Thank you. Quite a long thread and it is already closed, and there is
 a new one for newer FC :) I'll search for a solution, but if anyone else
 has some more direct help, please do not hesitate to post :)
 
  Thanks
  L:
 
 
  On 14 August 2015 at 20:38, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
 
  On 08/14/2015 11:33 AM, Pál, László wrote:
 
  I've found this guide for FC20, but it seems something else still
 missing
 
  http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/
 
  Any idea how to fix?
 
 
  You might try this guide instead:
 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752  I know the name
 makes it look old, but it's been kept current and covers considerably more
 than other guides I've looked at.
  --
 

 I've had the best results lately with the negativo17 packages.  Sorry
 for not having a thorough answer to the actual question at hand, though - I
 hardly ever use the consoles.

 --Pete

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Re: Firefox question

2015-08-16 Thread g


On 08/16/15 07:43, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm running Fedora-22/KDE,
 and am not sure if my query is a Fedora, KDE or Firefox query.

 I notice that if I am viewing a page in Firefox,
 pressing the down-key sometimes takes me down the page,
 but sometimes does not.

 Is this basically due to a difference in the HTML of the 2 pages?
 Or is these some other explanation?

maybe, or it could be that page has cursor in an entry box.

what happens if you drag page scroll marker to right of page and then
use down key?


 And is there any alternative to the down-key if it does not work?

mouse scroll wheel?

would be nice if you would post url for pages that give problem,
then others can have a look at page.


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Re: rsyslog stop syntax

2015-08-16 Thread Pál , László
Or use syslog-ng :) Rainer's ideas about the syntax and documentation is
quite interesting :)

L
I have a bunch of lines like this in
/etc/rsyslog.d/systemd-drivel.conf:

:msg, contains, Activating via systemd ~
:msg, contains, Activation via systemd failed ~

Every time I boot, rsyslogd complains about
the deprecated syntax:

Aug  9 18:39:21 zooty rsyslogd-2307: warning: ~ action is deprecated,
consider using the 'stop' statement instead [v8.8.0 try
http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2307 ]

Yet no google-fu seems to be powerful enough
to find an example of using the 'stop' statement

Can anyone tell me *exactly* what to put in a file
in /etc/rsyslog.d to use this mythical, yet
uttery, utterly, undocumented stop statement?

Absolutely none of the links from the URL in the
message have any descriptions of how to use the
new and improved syntax.

The man page for rsyslogd still documents the
deprecated stuff and doesn't say anything at all
about any new syntax.

This appears to be a classic example of open
source project obfuscation by improvement :-)
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Re: dnf downloadonly -

2015-08-16 Thread g

Bob,
while i am waiting for you to finish your coffee and feed the cat,
i thought i would verify something...


On 08/15/15 20:10, g wrote:
 On 08/15/15 17:57, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


 You probably would need to see the problem to understand ,,,
 .
 knowing you, i can well imagine. :-P

i am presuming that you have done like many thunderbird users and that
you have created folders for you emails in your

   bobgood...@gmail.com  or  bobgood...@wildblue.net

account folder and now you want to move all those emails.

with thunderbird, you can drag an email folder to a different place and
thunderbird will update your filers to reflect new folder location.

with one exception, an email folder _can_not_ be moved between account
folders or Local Folders. only way emails can be moved between account
folders or Local Folders is to create a new folder where you want emails,
then drag the emails to new folder.

alternative is to close thunderbird and use a file browser, locate the
folder file you want to move, then drag the folder file to new location
and delete to *.msf file for the folder file.

same applies for moving a top folder if you use subfolders.


as for filters, if you move an email folder in thunderbird window,
thunderbird will modify the filter/s for that folder to new location.

and again, with one exception, which again is moving an email folder
between accounts or Local Folders. which as stated above, can not
be done.


this is where you close thunderbird, then again using file browser,
locate the account folder and edit the file msgFilterRules.dat.

to edit, make a backup of the file, then open file in a plane text
editor.

filter file has a basic layout of;

  version=9  { the filter version
  logging=yes{ enable logging of filtering
  name={ name of the filter
  enabled=yes{ filter is enabled
  type=17{ HIIK
  action=Move to folder
   { action selected by Preform these actions:
   { in lower half of Filter Rules window when
   { filter was created.
  actionValue=mailbox://geleem%40bellsouth@mail.bellsouth.net/Inbox
   { second part of of above action=
  condition=AND (from,contains,branch1-sender1)
   { selection/s made in upper part Filter Rules


before i go further, do you have any questions relating to above?


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Offline uncorrectable sectors

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

I am getting the following warning on a terminal window (F22, :

-
WARNING: Your hard drive is failing
Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Offline uncorrectable sectors
-

(Please, find below the output of smartctl -a /dev/sda)

Is that a serious problem? What should I do?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

-

# smartctl -a /dev/sda
smartctl 6.4 2015-06-04 r4109 [x86_64-linux-4.1.4-200.fc22.x86_64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-15, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Green
Device Model: WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0
Serial Number:WD-WCAZAJ822299
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2b260482b
Firmware Version: 51.0AB51
User Capacity:2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:Sun Aug 16 15:36:46 2015 WEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0)The previous self-test
routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (37500) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:  (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01)Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:  (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:  ( 361) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:  (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:(0x3035)SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f   200   200   051Pre-fail
Always   -   22
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0027   172   165   021Pre-fail
Always   -   6383
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   099   099   000Old_age
Always   -   1446
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140Pre-fail
Always   -   0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   0
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   089   089   000Old_age
Always   -   8161
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   099   099   000Old_age
Always   -   1446
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   18
193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032   136   136   000Old_age
Always   -   192777
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   116   107   000Old_age
Always   -   34
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   1
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000Old_age
Offline  -   1
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x0032   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000Old_age
Offline  -   1

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline   Completed without error   00%  4062 -
# 2  Short offline   Completed without error   00%  4062 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  

Re: deprecated message in dmesg

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:31:30 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:

 Is this the only entry in dmesg output that you find cryptic?  :-) :-)

Nah, it is just a brand new cryptic message I haven't seen
before.

After doing some more google searches, I think this is
warning me that everything should work the way I want
it to unless I screw things up by manually turning on
the cryptic netfilter :-).
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F21 - Missing LVM swap partition or Hardware Error?

2015-08-16 Thread Erik Grun
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Hash: SHA256

Hey list!

So, I am experiencing a bug under Fedora 21 (I think that I also had it
under Fedora 20).

A bit of back story: The HDD which is used in this PC was in an older
one before. On the older PC I had Fedora 17 installed with LVM as my
file system. I had to reinstall my OS after a failed upgrade to Fedora
19. I think that I did not swipe the drive completely and just installed
Fedora 20 over the left pieces of what was once my operating system.
Now the used file system is ext4.
A couple of month later I bought this new PC where I used the old HDD,
because why not.
When I left my terminal open for a while I could see messages popping
up, telling me that there was something wrong with my CPU cache.
After some searching I found out that I didn't find out anything.
My computer didn't crash when this bug showed up so it didn't bother me.

I tried to upgrade to Fedora 21 a few weeks ago.
I tried booting into System Upgrade but it would stop after some time
telling me that there is a lvm swap partition missing or something.
I managed to finish the upgrade without any further problems.


And now SELinux (under F20 there where no warnings by SELinux) is
sometimes throwing a warning that says:

- 
- 

reason: mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged


cmdline:

BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.1.4-100.fc21.x86_64
root=UUID=5ab84b55-b501-4390-a44b-f840ab4736f7 ro
vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd.lvm.lv=vg_user/lv_swap rhgb quiet
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8


dmesg(I post just the part where it says things about errors):

[   11.078336] [Hardware Error]: System Fatal error.
[   11.078339] [Hardware Error]: CPU:0 (15:2:0)
MC4_STATUS[Over|UE|-|PCC|-|-|-]: 0xf30200190127
[   11.078342] [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 0): Compute Unit Data
Error.
[   11.078343] [Hardware Error]: cache level: L3/GEN, tx: DATA, mem-tx:
WR
[   11.078345] [Hardware Error]: Deferred error.
[   11.078347] [Hardware Error]: CPU:2 (15:2:0)
MC2_STATUS[Over|CE|MiscV|-|-|Deferred|-]: 0xd800100c0172
[   11.078349] [Hardware Error]: MC2 Error: VB Data ECC or parity error.
[   11.078351] [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: INSN, mem-tx: EV
[   11.078352] [Hardware Error]: Corrected error, no action required.
[   11.078354] [Hardware Error]: CPU:3 (15:2:0)
MC2_STATUS[Over|CE|MiscV|-|AddrV|-|-|CECC]: 0xdc05406001040136
[   11.078357] [Hardware Error]: MC2 Error Address: 0x0001d7773840
[   11.078358] [Hardware Error]: MC2 Error: Fill ECC error on data fills
.
[   11.078359] [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: DATA, mem-tx: DRD
- 
- 

The error reproduces itself and seems to appear at random.

If you need any additional information just tell me.

Now it does look more and more like a hardware error, but I am highly
confused about the missing lvm_swap partition that it is trying to find.

Apart from that Fedora works just fine. (Well, GTK+ seems to cause
some trouble, but that problem is for another mail.^^)


Thank you for your help.

- -- Erik G.


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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Gerard Teichman
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 I have had AMD Radeon card for my last computer, but this one
 comes with a Nvidia GeForce Gt 705. I seem to remember this from long
 ago, I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux.run .
 are there any gotcha's or anything I need to know before I do this??

Paul, I recently went through the steps to install NVidia drivers for
my Video card on  F22-64. It resulted in the X screen not running, and
it took awhile to troubleshoot by using console commands.  Now I'm
using the Nouveau drivers and I'm doing fine. If you need the special
features of the proprietary driver, I would recommend using the dnf
software packaging system in fedora.  If things go wrong, you can roll
back the install.

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Re: rsyslog stop syntax

2015-08-16 Thread Andy Blanchard
Depends on what you are trying to achieve:

:msg, contains, some string stop

(on one line) will discard any message containing some string.

:msg, contains, some other string /var/log/messages
 stop

(across two lines) will cause any message containing some other
string to be logged in messages and *then* discard it from further
processing.

IIRC if you omit the  stop then it is possible that the message
will match further down the config and be logged in multiple places -
possibly desirable for security related messages), so you could do
something like this:

:msg, contains, some other string /var/log/messages
:msg, contains, some other string /var/log/secure
 stop


On 10 August 2015 at 02:19, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 16:44:51 -0700
 Doug H. wrote:

  So basically I replace the ~ with  stop ?

 I don't remember why I put it on the second line but I suspect I found
 something via google.

 Well, when I try it, rsyslogd won't start, so it hates
 something about my file.

 I guess I'll stick with the deprecated syntax :-).
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Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
ok, so I got a new computer, was windows 10, now dual-boot with fedora
22 x86_64. I have had AMD Radeon card for my last computer, but this one
comes with a Nvidia GeForce Gt 705. I seem to remember this from long
ago, I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux.run .
are there any gotcha's or anything I need to know before I do this??
should I install this?? this is a new Dell Inspiron with core-I5 Intel
chip..


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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am 16.08.2015 um 16:17 schrieb Paul Cartwright:

ok, so I got a new computer, was windows 10, now dual-boot with fedora
22 x86_64. I have had AMD Radeon card for my last computer, but this one
comes with a Nvidia GeForce Gt 705. I seem to remember this from long
ago, I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux.run .
are there any gotcha's or anything I need to know before I do this??
should I install this?? this is a new Dell Inspiron with core-I5 Intel
chip..


I found installing the nvidia binary driver from rpmfusion rather 
hassle-free (okay, I have a somewhat older card, but that shouldn't matter):

http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
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Re: dnf downloadonly -

2015-08-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 16/08/15 08:47, g wrote:

Bob,
while i am waiting for you to finish your coffee and feed the cat,
i thought i would verify something...

.
Did you read my earlier comments sent directly to gel...@bellsouth.net?



On 08/15/15 20:10, g wrote:

On 08/15/15 17:57, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:




You probably would need to see the problem to understand ,,,

.
knowing you, i can well imagine. :-P

i am presuming that you have done like many thunderbird users and that
you have created folders for you emails in your

bobgood...@gmail.com  or  bobgood...@wildblue.net

account folder and now you want to move all those emails.

with thunderbird, you can drag an email folder to a different place and
thunderbird will update your filers to reflect new folder location.

with one exception, an email folder _can_not_ be moved between account
folders or Local Folders. only way emails can be moved between account
folders or Local Folders is to create a new folder where you want emails,
then drag the emails to new folder.

alternative is to close thunderbird and use a file browser, locate the
folder file you want to move, then drag the folder file to new location
and delete to *.msf file for the folder file.

same applies for moving a top folder if you use subfolders.


as for filters, if you move an email folder in thunderbird window,
thunderbird will modify the filter/s for that folder to new location.

and again, with one exception, which again is moving an email folder
between accounts or Local Folders. which as stated above, can not
be done.


this is where you close thunderbird, then again using file browser,
locate the account folder and edit the file msgFilterRules.dat.

to edit, make a backup of the file, then open file in a plane text
editor.

filter file has a basic layout of;

   version=9  { the filter version
   logging=yes{ enable logging of filtering
   name={ name of the filter
   enabled=yes{ filter is enabled
   type=17{ HIIK
   action=Move to folder
{ action selected by Preform these actions:
{ in lower half of Filter Rules window when
{ filter was created.
   actionValue=mailbox://geleem%40bellsouth@mail.bellsouth.net/Inbox
{ second part of of above action=
   condition=AND (from,contains,branch1-sender1)
{ selection/s made in upper part Filter Rules


before i go further, do you have any questions relating to above?



.
/home/bobg/.thunderbird/6gjqb341.default/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/msgFilterRules.dat

Yes, that appears to contain the Thunderbird filter rules I would like 
to move along with the mail.


What else do I need to know about this?

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Re: Offline uncorrectable sectors

2015-08-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Paul Smith writes:


Dear All,

I am getting the following warning on a terminal window (F22, :

-
WARNING: Your hard drive is failing
Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Offline uncorrectable sectors
-

(Please, find below the output of smartctl -a /dev/sda)

Is that a serious problem?


Yes.


 What should I do?


Buy a new hard drive, hopefully you'll receive it and be able to copy all of  
your data from this one, before your current hard drive turns into a brick.




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Re: Offline uncorrectable sectors

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:51:00 -0400
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Buy a new hard drive, hopefully you'll receive it and be able to copy all of  
 your data from this one, before your current hard drive turns into a brick.

Yea, it took a while for my drive to get more than 1 uncorrectable
sector, but once I got one, it eventually got worse. 
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Re: Audacity Won't Start

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
 Hello Craig,
 
 Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
 application from the command line?
 
 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:
  Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
  audacity to not want to start.
  
  If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
  with an existing audio file. It just exits.
  
  Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
  trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
  is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
  
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Hi Craig,
I found this problem as well.
I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
But you may not want to do that!
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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/17/15 05:19, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 04:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 I was having this problem as well. But there were some recent changes and 
 even though the rpm isn't getting installed during the dnf update phase as 
 long as I have akmods-shutdown.service enabled the rpm gets rebuilt and 
 installed during the reboot. 
 I do have it enabled and yet last time I still had to do the manual
 install. At any rate the log showed an error due to locking.

If you're still having problems then you probably would want to BZ it in 
rpmfusion.  I think it is Richard Shaw that is doing work in this area and he 
has been very responsive.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 19:10 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 On 08/16/2015 07:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
   and everyone just uses dnf  akmod-nvidia..
  
  Actually, I use both kmod and akmod on my desktop.  This way, if
  there's a kmod ready, it saves a bit of time when I reboot; if not,
  akmod will take care of it.
 what? not sure I understand.. what is the difference between kmod  
 akmod...

kmod is the actual kernel module that gets loaded at boot time. akmod
is the system for building a new version of it for each new kernel.
Just to make it more confusing, you can also download and install kmod
rpm's directly without using akmod, but that only works if they already
exist in some repo (typically rpmfusion), which sometimes takes a while
after a new kernel appears.

poc

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Joe Zeff

On 08/16/2015 03:57 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

and everyone just uses dnf  akmod-nvidia..


Actually, I use both kmod and akmod on my desktop.  This way, if there's 
a kmod ready, it saves a bit of time when I reboot; if not, akmod will 
take care of it.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 07:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 and everyone just uses dnf  akmod-nvidia..

 Actually, I use both kmod and akmod on my desktop.  This way, if
 there's a kmod ready, it saves a bit of time when I reboot; if not,
 akmod will take care of it.
what? not sure I understand.. what is the difference between kmod  akmod...

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 07:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  what? not sure I understand.. what is the difference between kmod  
  akmod...
 kmod is the actual kernel module that gets loaded at boot time. akmod
 is the system for building a new version of it for each new kernel.
 Just to make it more confusing, you can also download and install kmod
 rpm's directly without using akmod, but that only works if they already
 exist in some repo (typically rpmfusion), which sometimes takes a while
 after a new kernel appears.

 poc
thank you!
I don't think I want to wait for a kmod package, I'll go with akmod..

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Re: Audacity Won't Start

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Lol, 'with a hammer' - so true xD

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 19:40 Andrew R Paterson andy.pater...@ntlworld.com
wrote:

 On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
  Hello Craig,
 
  Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
  application from the command line?
 
  On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
   audacity to not want to start.
  
   If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
   with an existing audio file. It just exits.
  
   Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
   trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
   is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
  
   Craig Lanning
  
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 Hi Craig,
 I found this problem as well.
 I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
 But you may not want to do that!
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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 03:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  thanks! I installed the akmod-nvidia package..
 This generally works, however be aware that there is currently an issue
 when updating your system via dnf. If a new kernel is installed, the
 akmod system will create a new kmod rpm and then try to install it.
 Quite often the installation will fail because the calling dnf command
 still holds a lock on the database, but you won't know this until you
 reboot your nice new kernel and suddenly the video doesn't work.

 The workaround is to check /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after a
 new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an error
 (jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually install
 the new rpm before rebooting.
I'll try to remember that:)

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 05:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  
  I was having this problem as well.  But there were some recent 
  changes and even though the rpm isn't getting installed during the 
  dnf update phase as long as I have akmods-shutdown.service enabled 
  the rpm gets rebuilt and installed during the reboot.
 I do have it enabled and yet last time I still had to do the manual
 install. At any rate the log showed an error due to locking.

 poc
and thanks to everyone for the info! I am glad to see I am not alone,
and others have figured it out..

so, it seems no one runs the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.30. 
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1437/8432/10/us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.30/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.30.run
and everyone just uses dnf  akmod-nvidia.. I have yet to reboot after
installing akmod-nvidia, but I do remember it pulled in 11 other
packages, one was the kernel-devel..

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Re: Audacity Won't Start

2015-08-16 Thread Craig Lanning
Thanks for your answers.
Martin, there was no output.  I would type 'audacity file.wav' and it
would just return to the command prompt.
Andrew, Your suggestion worked fine.  I deleted the '.audacity-data'
directory and it then worked just fine.
Thanks to both of you for your help.
Craig
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 22:45 +, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
 Lol, 'with a hammer' - so true xD
 
 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 19:40 Andrew R Paterson 
 andy.pater...@ntlworld.com wrote:
  On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
   Hello Craig,
  
   Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
   application from the command line?
  
   On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning 
  craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:
Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
audacity to not want to start.
   
If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to
  start
with an existing audio file. It just exits.
   
Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it
  is
trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring
  out what
is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
   
Craig Lanning
   
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  Hi Craig,
  I found this problem as well.
  I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
  But you may not want to do that!
  Regards
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Re: dnf downloadonly -

2015-08-16 Thread g


On 08/16/15 13:57, g wrote:


ok, while i am still wondering if;

  a- yuckahoo bounce your reply to list?
  b- yuckahoo bounce your resend to me?
  c- the horses got out and you had to round them up?
  d- your cat peed on you keyboard and killed your system? :-D

  1- where do you want to move filters?

  2- would you like to add them to your wildblue.net account?

 What else do I need to know about this?

 .
  3- what else would you like to know?

  4- are you willing to move emails out of account folders
 and into Local Folders.

 answers to above needed so i can reply as you wish.

..

i will make some presumptions to above questions #1 - #4:

  1- you want to move gmail filters to wildblue.net, except that if
 you just move them, they will overwrite what you have already
 set for wildblue.net.

  2- gmail filters need to be added to wildblue by;

 open both filter files, cut and paste gmail filters starting
 with first line that reads name= thru to last line that
 reads condition= to filter file for wildblue.net.

 you can paste them either to end of wildblue.net filter or
 in between line logging= and first line name=

 where you put them should be determined by what you have highest
 amount of emails. ie, high traffic 1st reduces time of thunderbird
 finding match.

   3- i will not attempt to guess.

   4- if you are willing to move emails out of account folders and into
  Local Folders, you will eliminate a lot of problems that can arise
  and give you ability to move folders to what ever branch you want
  and thunderbird will make changes to filter file for you.

  having all email folders under Local Folders will eliminate problems
  i described in my post Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:47:32 -0500

  if you agree and would like to do so, all that needs to be done
  is, with thunderbird close, use file browser to build new branch
  names, then move email folder files to new location.

  filter file is then edited with a simple 'remove and replace' to
  file. which i will go into 'how' if you want to use Local Folders.

something to consider with using Local Folders to hold all emails is that
you can make branches with name of email server then use same email folder
names under the server name.

branch names can have then names of;

   list that you subscribe to, organization as branch name, folder name of
   individual list name.

   friends and families last name, email folders have person's first name.

   personal, email folders for what ever. ie, banking, credit card, etc.

all of which you will be able to move where ever, when ever and not have
to be concerned about editing filters or moving folders with file browser.

after you get email branches and folder files where you want them, you
need to open the *.default directory and delete the master index file
named panacea.dat.

next in a command line terminal in *.default directory, execute command;

   rm -fR *.msf

to remove all of the .msf index files. when you open thunderbird again,
it will create new .msf files and build a new panacea.dat file

if there are any questions or anything you are wondering about, ask. ;-)

so, what did i not cover?


later.


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Re: Offline uncorrectable sectors

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hi all,

I would like to add that there's a convenient utility shipped with Fedora
(at least with the GNOME version) called 'Disks' that helps you tweak some
of your disk options as well as check its health state by showing the SMART
information.

Cheers.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:51:00 -0400
 Sam Varshavchik wrote:

  Buy a new hard drive, hopefully you'll receive it and be able to copy
 all of
  your data from this one, before your current hard drive turns into a
 brick.

 Yea, it took a while for my drive to get more than 1 uncorrectable
 sector, but once I got one, it eventually got worse.
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Re: dnf downloadonly -

2015-08-16 Thread g


On 08/16/15 13:10, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 On 16/08/15 08:47, g wrote:
 Bob,
 while i am waiting for you to finish your coffee and feed the cat,
 i thought i would verify something...
 .
 Did you read my earlier comments sent directly to gel...@bellsouth.net?
.
my apologies that i have a crappy email server.

i guess you have been added to yuckahoo's bounce or delete and spam list.

to confirm, i signed into my yuckahoo email account to see what may have
happened.

would you believe that i found that _all_ of you emails in this thread
were in the 'spam' folder?

i marked them as 'Not Spam' so it will be interesting to see if your
emails get marked as 'spam'.

as for any email directly to me, i can only guess that it either got
bounced or it was deleted, and i do not mean it was in 'trash' folder.
i mean deleted, as in nowhere to be found.

so, please resend to see if it gets to me.

all of this is going to go into a letter that i am sending to att
accounting office because of their crappy billing.



 before i go further, do you have any questions relating to above?

 .
 /home/bobg/.thunderbird/6gjqb341.default/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/msgFilterRules.dat
 
 Yes, that appears to contain the Thunderbird filter rules I would like 
 to move along with the mail.

.
 1- where do you want to move filters?

 2- would you like to add them to your wildblue.net account?

 What else do I need to know about this?

.
 3- what else would you like to know?

 4- are you willing to move emails out of account folders
and into Local Folders.

answers to above needed so i can reply as you wish.


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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/17/15 03:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 14:37 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 thanks! I installed the akmod-nvidia package..
 This generally works, however be aware that there is currently an issue
 when updating your system via dnf. If a new kernel is installed, the
 akmod system will create a new kmod rpm and then try to install it.
 Quite often the installation will fail because the calling dnf command
 still holds a lock on the database, but you won't know this until you
 reboot your nice new kernel and suddenly the video doesn't work.

 The workaround is to check /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after a
 new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an error
 (jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually install
 the new rpm before rebooting.


I was having this problem as well.  But there were some recent changes and even 
though the rpm isn't getting installed during the dnf update phase as long as 
I have akmods-shutdown.service enabled the rpm gets rebuilt and installed 
during the reboot.

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Re: Audacity Won't Start

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hello Craig,

Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
application from the command line?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:

 Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
 audacity to not want to start.

 If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
 with an existing audio file. It just exits.

 Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
 trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
 is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 04:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 08/17/15 03:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 14:37 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
   thanks! I installed the akmod-nvidia package..
  This generally works, however be aware that there is currently an 
  issue
  when updating your system via dnf. If a new kernel is installed, 
  the
  akmod system will create a new kmod rpm and then try to install it.
  Quite often the installation will fail because the calling dnf 
  command
  still holds a lock on the database, but you won't know this until 
  you
  reboot your nice new kernel and suddenly the video doesn't work.
  
  The workaround is to check /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after 
  a
  new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an 
  error
  (jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually 
  install
  the new rpm before rebooting.
  
 
 I was having this problem as well.  But there were some recent 
 changes and even though the rpm isn't getting installed during the 
 dnf update phase as long as I have akmods-shutdown.service enabled 
 the rpm gets rebuilt and installed during the reboot.

I do have it enabled and yet last time I still had to do the manual
install. At any rate the log showed an error due to locking.

poc

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 08/16/2015 12:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  The workaround is to check/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after 
  a
  new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an 
  error
  (jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually 
  install
  the new rpm before rebooting.
 
 Two things: first, doesn't akmod run at boot, which would mean that 
 the 
 lock is gone.

I've no idea what it's supposed to do, I'm just reporting what it
actually does.

   Second, why not just use last /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log to  go 
 right to the part you nee to see?

Sure, whatever.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Joe Zeff

On 08/16/2015 02:21 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I've no idea what it's supposed to do, I'm just reporting what it
actually does.


The various akmods run at boot, as a service.  Specifically, 
akmod-nvidia checks to see if there's a kmod-nvidia for the current 
kernel.  If there is, it exits; if not, it builds one and then exits. 
Yes, you can also use --force to make it build a new kmod before 
rebooting, but it shouldn't be needed.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 01:22 PM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 ok, so I got a new computer, was windows 10, now dual-boot with fedora
 22 x86_64. I have had AMD Radeon card for my last computer, but this one
 comes with a Nvidia GeForce Gt 705. I seem to remember this from long
 ago, I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux.run .
 are there any gotcha's or anything I need to know before I do this??
 should I install this?? this is a new Dell Inspiron with core-I5 Intel
 chip..


 I found installing the nvidia binary driver from rpmfusion rather
 hassle-free (okay, I have a somewhat older card, but that shouldn't
 matter):
 http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
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dnf install akmod-nvidia

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/16/2015 01:35 PM, Gerard Teichman wrote:
  I have had AMD Radeon card for my last computer, but this one
  comes with a Nvidia GeForce Gt 705. I seem to remember this from long
  ago, I downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux.run .
  are there any gotcha's or anything I need to know before I do this??
 Paul, I recently went through the steps to install NVidia drivers for
 my Video card on  F22-64. It resulted in the X screen not running, and
 it took awhile to troubleshoot by using console commands.  Now I'm
 using the Nouveau drivers and I'm doing fine. If you need the special
 features of the proprietary driver, I would recommend using the dnf
 software packaging system in fedora.  If things go wrong, you can roll
 back the install.
thanks! I installed the akmod-nvidia package..

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 14:37 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 thanks! I installed the akmod-nvidia package..

This generally works, however be aware that there is currently an issue
when updating your system via dnf. If a new kernel is installed, the
akmod system will create a new kmod rpm and then try to install it.
Quite often the installation will fail because the calling dnf command
still holds a lock on the database, but you won't know this until you
reboot your nice new kernel and suddenly the video doesn't work.

The workaround is to check /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after a
new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an error
(jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually install
the new rpm before rebooting.

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Joe Zeff

On 08/16/2015 12:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

The workaround is to check/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after a
new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an error
(jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually install
the new rpm before rebooting.


Two things: first, doesn't akmod run at boot, which would mean that the 
lock is gone.  Second, why not just use last 
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log to go right to the part you need to see?

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Audacity Won't Start

2015-08-16 Thread Craig Lanning
Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
audacity to not want to start.

If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
with an existing audio file. It just exits.

Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.

Craig Lanning

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Re: Nvidia GeForce Gt 705

2015-08-16 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am 16.08.2015 um 22:09 schrieb Joe Zeff:

On 08/16/2015 12:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

The workaround is to check/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log after a
new kernel has been installed but before booting. If it shows an error
(jump to the end of the file) you still have time to manually install
the new rpm before rebooting.


Two things: first, doesn't akmod run at boot, which would mean that 
the lock is gone.  Second, why not just use last 
/var/cache/akmods/nvidia/.last.log to go right to the part you need to 
see?


For reasons I don't know this doesn't work after a kernel upgrade. What 
I have to do in this case:

Konsole output
sudo /usr/sbin/akmods --force
and then rboot.


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Re: Can I move qemu vms between systems?

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Why shouldn't you?
I would also add: theory comes after experience and experience does to the
master. When in doubt just go and try :)

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
wrote:

 I am setting up a 'new' F22 system.  On this F21 system, I have a F21 QEMU
 vm.

 Can I 'simply' move the image file in /var/lib/libvirt/images/ to the new
 system and run it?

 Obviously the VM will still be F21, but that is no problem.

 The two systems have identical hardware (Lenovo x120e).


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