Re: change the default dns on fedora 40

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/23/24 7:31 AM, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I try to change the default dns configured by my ISP on a fedora 40.

Once upon a time it was easy: just change the file /etc/resolv.conf 
now


So, according to some information got from the internet, I created a 
directory

/usr/lib/systemd/resolved.conf.d/

then wrote a file in this directory named fdn.conf with:

[Resolve]

DNS=80.67.169.12#ns0.fdn.fr 2001:910:800::12#ns0.fdn.fr
DNSSEC=yes
DNSOverTLS=yes

and restarted systemd-resolved.service (and NetworkManager), but this 
does not worked...


dig -x 2a01:cb14:81da:2800:3649:5bff:fe29:3ce0

returns:

;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out
;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out
;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out

What did I miss?

Thank you.


I've had great luck with either using nmtui to change my DNS (the 
easiest way).


You can use Cockpit to do it as well. Enable the cockpit socket:

sudo systemctl enable cockpit.socket --now

Open your browser and go to localhost:9090

Escalate privileges, then go to networking and change it there.

You can also do it from the command line:

Let's say you want to use the Google DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, 
and you want to ignore any DNS server which is defined in DHCP. Here's 
the syntax. It's three commands. Replace [interface] with the actual 
interface you want to change:


nmcli con mod [interface] ipv4.dns "8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" 
ipv4.ignore-auto-dns yes


nmcli con down [interface]

nmcli con up [interface]

That *should* get you what you want. Holler if you have any questions.

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Re: nvidia drivers installation

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/15/24 4:05 PM, François Patte wrote:

Le 2024-07-14 10:50, François Patte a écrit :

Bonjour,

According to some howto, it is enough to install akmods-nvidia and
reboot. some others tell that we have to generate and install some
signature

I have secure boot enabled.

Is there some how-to explaining with details how to proceed.   I'm not
very good with efi boot system nor secure boot.


I installed the nvidia driver:

dnf install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda

then I enrolled the new keys for nvidia with mokutil:

mokutil --import /tc/pki/akmods/certs/public_key_der

rebooted the machine and was promted to give the password I gave for 
mokutil


The boot came without any problem and the nvidia driver was loaded...

BUT when I rebooted the machine I got a black screen

I could recover editing the kernel command line from the grub splash 
screen and removed the instructions to blacklist nouveau but now the 
X-session does not start and I have to log from a console and startx.


I would like to restore the behavior of the boot before my attempt to 
install nvidia driver: what is the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to start an X 
session with nouveau driver?


Next, I will try to understant what went wrong with the nvidia driver. 
Any clue?


I've always just done:

dnf autoremove akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda

as root, then reboot, to restore the system to how it was when I started.

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Re: OT: motherboard

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/10/24 11:59 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone have a favorite uATX motherboard that
supports ECC and is Fedora 40 friendly?


Hey, Todd -

Depends on what you're doing. I have a homelab with a bunch of older 
Proliant servers I use for education and testing. Speed is not a huge 
requirement, I just use them for virtualization and learning. You can 
get older servers (Gen 9 and Gen 10) pretty cheap from eBay and 
ServerMonkey.com and SaveMyServer.com. I've had fantastic luck from 
ServerMonkey and SaveMyServer. Good warranty, excellent customer 
service, etc. I'm not affiliated with them, just a happy customer.


If you're looking for a new server class machine, as Richard mentioned, 
ASUS has a good motherboard selection. I've been happy with very 
Gigabyte in the past, but I've heard rumblings that their quality may 
have lowered lately. I don't personally have any evidence of that, it's 
just something I saw someone mention in a forum and some folks chimed in 
in agreement.


Can you tell us more about what it is you're trying to accomplish? It'd 
be easier to make recommendations based on budget, machine role, etc.


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Re: make a bootable dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/8/24 10:01 AM, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I downloaded the f40 iso for a worksation, but I did not see on the 
fedora website how to burn a bootable DVD with this iso file


Maybe someone can tell me how to proceed.

google indicates this for windows  no windows at home.

I prefer to use command line.

Thank you.


The easiest way is to just dd the iso file to a USB stick and boot off that.

This shows you the USB drive. On my system, I have two drives internal 
drives, so my USB drive shows up as sdc:


lsblk

Once you've identified the USB drive, use dd to write it to the USB. In 
my case, it's /dev/sdc:


dd if=/path/to/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-40-1.14.iso of=/dev/sdc

Make sure your USB drive is large enough for the whole ISO file to be 
written to it.


I also recommend Ventoy for booting off multiple ISO files:

https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

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Re: Seamonkey not displaying pix

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/28/24 10:51 AM, Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:55:32 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:


On 6/26/24 10:25 AM, I Beartooth wrote:

Seamonkey under the last several releases of Fedora Linux does not
display pix. It says, inter alia, "Error: could not load." It also
gives me a link to Media Viewer; but the help page for that is over my
head. []
It used to be a good browser. Can I fix it


If I remember correctly, recent Seamonkey updates were wonky with
previous builds of Seamonkey.

I want to say I exited Seamonkey, renamed my ~/.mozilla/seamonkey
directory to something like ~/.mozilla/seamonkey.old, and launched
Seamonkey again to rebuild my profile and it worked.


I did that, and rebooted.


I only use it for the HTML editor, not the browser. But last time I had
wonky behavior, renaming that directory reset it to defaults and my
issues went away.

Give that a try and let us know?


The result did show pix, but everything was all wonky, and the
machine way way slow.


That's bizarre. I'm using Seamonkey as my HTML editor on my F40 machine 
and it's just fine. I just went to a number of web sites and it seems 
pretty normal. You "reset it to factory defaults" and it's still acting 
weird. Is it using a lot of memory or CPU?


Sorry I don't have any better advice, Beartooth.

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Re: F40 kernel 6.9.* and VMware 17.5.* question

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/26/24 2:56 PM, Mark C. Allman via users wrote:
Anyone have VMware Workstation or Player 17.5.1 or 17.5.2 working on the 
6.9.* kernels? The kernel modules from VMware haven't worked in quite a 
while. They don't compile for the 6.9.* kernels, and, if I'm remembering 
correctly, they don't compile when running the 6.8.* kernels either.


I have the code for vmnet and vmmon from 
https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/tree/workstation-17.5.1. 
There are all kinds of exceptions when the kernel modules are loaded at 
boot time. I tried running vmplayer as a test -- it "ran" but trashed 
the kernel and required hard reboots. One of the tests totally bricked 
my laptop (that was fun to recover).


I'm currently running kernel 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64and all packages are 
up to date. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i7-10510U CPU, 16GB 
of ram.
Not telling you how to compute, just curious: why not just use native 
KVM? I use KVM on my workstation to virtualize RHEL 7, RHEL8, RHEL9, 
Windows 2022, Windows 2019, Windows 10 and Windows 11. It Just Works(TM).


Since Broadcom has told us all to kick rocks, maybe consider using 
native Linux virtualization?


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Re: Seamonkey not displaying pix

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/26/24 10:25 AM, Beartooth wrote:

Seamonkey under the last several releases of Fedora Linux does not
display pix. It says, inter alia, "Error: could not load." It also gives
me a link to Media Viewer; but the help page for that is over my head.

I tried posting via Gmane to seamonkey.user, but have had no
replies. I tried dnf reinstall seamonkey (with seamonkey not open), but
that didn't help.

It used to be a good browser. Can I fix it


If I remember correctly, recent Seamonkey updates were wonky with 
previous builds of Seamonkey.


I want to say I exited Seamonkey, renamed my ~/.mozilla/seamonkey 
directory to something like ~/.mozilla/seamonkey.old, and launched 
Seamonkey again to rebuild my profile and it worked.


I only use it for the HTML editor, not the browser. But last time I had 
wonky behavior, renaming that directory reset it to defaults and my 
issues went away.


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Re: How do I Contact the Rpmfusion List?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/10/24 5:18 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
     I have installed Jellyfin from rpmfusion by following the 
instructions on the Jellyfin web site for Fedora.
     After activating Developer Mode on my TV I used Docker to install 
the Jellyfin client on the TV.
     I ran the Jellyfin script to open up Jellyfin in Firewalld (After 
starting FirewallD as the service seemed to not have been activated 
after the upgrade to F40).
     I then enabled and started the Jellyfin service on my pc to start 
the server.
     When I invoke Jellyfin on the TV and supply the require IP address 
of my pc and required port, the Jellyfin client tells me the server (I 
think) needs to be upgraded and gives me the Github URL to get the upgrade.
     Hence I need to approach the Rpmfusion guys to see if they can 
upgrade the server to the latest version.


regards,
Steve


Have a look at https://rpmfusion.org/ReportingBugs - it tells you to 
open a bug at https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/.


You can also contact the developers at 
https://lists.rpmfusion.org/archives/ but that's not the ideal. Follow 
the instructions about reporting bugs.


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Re: can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?

[Thomas Cameron]

I'd be surprised if you could. The USB drive root filesystem is usually 
run on /dev/sda. If you're trying to clone it to /dev/nvme*, it may very 
well not work. I would do something like set up a kickstart so that you 
can install the system with all the preferred package groups.


Thomas

On 4/29/24 19:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I am making up a USB flash from of Fedroa 40 MATE for
a customer to play with.

If he likes it, can I clonezilla clone it over
to his brand new NVMe drive (gpart it to expand
the extents)?

-T

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Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/15/24 14:02, home user wrote:

On 4/11/24 11:19 AM, home user wrote:





There's
1.
(Thomas)
I finally just nuked all the RPMFusion packages and downloaded the 
drivers directly from https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx and 
ran the installer from there. It works fine again.


(Todd)

I can tell you that building the 2 or 3 nvidia 470xx packages
works well for the later 6.7 and current 6.8 kernels.


and there's
2.
(John)
AIUI we are moving from X11 graphics towards Wayland, which the nvidia 
driver will not support...


(Michael)
So, not sure if this is a kernel issue, or the driver issue, but seems 
neither rpmfusiong or nvidia's driver will work any longer?


These seem to me to be inconsistent with each other.  What am I missing?

B. nvidia and Fedora.

 From posts in this thread, I gather that
1. nvidia users can no longer use Fedora, and


That's not AT ALL what I said. I was able to use the NVidia drivers from 
NVidia's web site just fine. Others mentioned they did the same.



2. Fedora users can no longer use nvidia.


Again, I didn't see ANYTHING that intimated that.


Is this correct?


Nope. I've been using Linux since 1995. NVidia drivers have ALWAYS been 
problematic. RPMFusion has done amazing work trying to make it less 
onerous, but often times NVidia makes changes that catch third parties 
like RPMFusion unawares. I *feel* like this is just another case of 
this. It stinks, but it's not the end of the world. Either wait til this 
gets fixed by the volunteer developers at RPMFusion (and be cool to 
them, most are working out of love for the community), or install the 
NVidia drivers from NVidia web site. You'll be fine.


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Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/11/24 12:19, home user wrote:
(f-38; stand-alone work station; nvidia graphics card; dual monitor; 
kmod 4xx driver)


I just finished doing a "dnf upgrade" as a prerequisite step to 
upgrading from f-38 to f-39.
There were no hints of any problems.  The kernel and the graphics driver 
were replaced during this "dnf upgrade".

The akmods did finish before I rebooted.
The shutdown took 5 minutes because it ran akmods (a second time?!).
During the boot-up, there was a message that it was failing back to 
nouveau.
The display is not working properly; only one monitor is being used and 
everything is oversized in the display.
I am not comfortable proceeding with the f-38 to f-39 upgrade with the 
work station in this condition.


Important: I have only one old kernel.  I have no rescue kernel.

How do I get this workstation working properly?


I just ran into that exact same issue on RHEL 9 instead of Fedora.

I wound up uninstalling all the RPMFusion packages and reinstalling 
them, but it didn't help. I waited til all the gcc and depmod and xz 
processes completed, it ain't my first rodeo. Still no joy.


I finally just nuked all the RPMFusion packages and downloaded the 
drivers directly from https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx and ran 
the installer from there. It works fine again. I hate to do it, because 
I really prefer the RPMs, but I *had* to get back to work and my desktop 
was toast. Three of my four monitors weren't working.


Sorry I don't have better advice, but I feel like something went south 
in the RPMFusion packages.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/4/24 00:27, Javier Perez wrote:


I was talking about kickstart


Here you go:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f36/install-guide/advanced/Kickstart_Installations/

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

I usually "cheat" by building a system like I want it and then using the 
/root/anaconda-ks.cfg as a starting point for my kickstart.cfg file.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/1/24 15:03, Thomas Cameron wrote:
I've never heard of having to overwrite the end of the drive, but 
then, I've only been working with Linux professionally since 1995. 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


GPT has a backup copy stored in the last block of the disk.


You are absolutely correct. My poor little systems aren't big enough to 
use GPT volumes (mostly smaller KVM instances), so I didn't think about 
that. :-D


Although I'm relatively certain I've nuked GPT volumes on my hypervisors 
when I've rebuilt them, and they were not visible as volumes when I 
reinstalled the OS. I'll dig into that, now you have me curious.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 15:57, Barry Scott wrote:


I tend to dd of a few MiB of zeros over the front of the disk.
A few KiB is often not enough.
In some cases you also need to overwrite at the end of the disk I have been 
told.

Barry


TMTOWTDI.

The dmesg output is generally *plenty* to nuke the boot sector and 
render the drive unbootable, triggering a PXE boot. Depending on your 
hardware, the boot sector is either 512 bytes or 4096 bytes (4K), and 
the output of dmesg is over 40K on my system. So I'm lazy and just do:


dmesg > /dev/[device]
systemctl reboot

I've known folks who do:

cat /var/log/messages > /dev/[device]
systemctl reboot

or

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[device] bs=1M count=1
systemctl reboot

and that works, too.

I've never heard of having to overwrite the end of the drive, but then, 
I've only been working with Linux professionally since 1995. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 00:25, Javier Perez wrote:

When I realize I need to nuke my machine and start over, it's:

sudo -i
dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1
systemctl reboot
Choose the right kickstart from the menu.
Refill coffee.
Go back to working as if nothing happened. My home directory is there
and my machine is reset to sane defaults.

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Neat! Is there a tutorial somewhere about how to do this?
Not that I know of. I saw it in some article decades ago. Basically, 
what you're doing is overwriting the first few k of the disk, which 
overwrites the boot instructions and partitions and the like.


Unless you're talking about kickstart or something else?
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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/25/24 21:57, Joe Zeff wrote:


In all the years I've been doing this I've never had it fail with a 
Fedora re-installation.  Of course, I always have a full backup of /home 
before I upgrade or re-install, JIK.


I've never had it fail, either. But *in my case* it makes more sense for 
me to use an NFS mounted /home and now I just don't worry about it at 
all. I use a kickstart which rebuilds my desktop in about as much time 
as it takes me to pour a coffee and put my cream and sugar into it.


Not saying it's the right thing for anyone else. I am saying it's the 
right thing for me, in my little home lab.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/25/24 11:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:

dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1


What's that about?

poc


To further clarify, my system uses NVMe drives (/dev/nvme0n1 and 
/dev/nvme1n1). So when I do dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1 as root, it overwrites 
the first few hundred k of the NVMe disk, nuking the partition tables 
and boot instructions and the like. Then when I reboot, it causes my 
machine to PXE boot. You can nuke any drive by writing to the first few 
sectors, so it could have been /dev/sda, /dev/vda, /dev/xvda, or whatever.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 11:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:

dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1


What's that about?


If you overwrite the first few sectors of the drive (i.e. with the 
output of the dmesg command), it nukes the boot instructions. It causes 
my machine to PXE boot and I kickstart it.


Sorry, I should have been more clear about that. It could be anything. I 
used to use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nvme1n1 bs=1M count=1 but dmesg is 
quicker to type.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 11:01, Joe Zeff wrote:


If you have /home on its own partition, you don't even need to have it 
mounted on your file server.  Just do a custom partitioning (I presume 
that you can do that with a kickstart) mounting that partition as /home 
and not reformatting and Bob's your uncle.  I know, as I've been doing 
that for over two decades.


I did that for a long time (been using Linux since '94), but now I have 
10 gigabit ethernet between my desktop and my NFS server. It's fast as 
heck for /home.


When I realize I need to nuke my machine and start over, it's:

sudo -i
dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1
systemctl reboot
Choose the right kickstart from the menu.
Refill coffee.
Go back to working as if nothing happened. My home directory is there 
and my machine is reset to sane defaults.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 10:21, Michael Hennebry wrote:

Thanks folks.
Disabling UEFI mode did the trick,
though I do not understand why it was necessary.
I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI.
The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI directory.

I didn't get a grub menu until disabling UEFI.


Fedora can install on either legacy BIOS mode or modern UEFI. But when 
it installs on UEFI systems, it creates a special partition mounted on
/boot/efi. If you boot a system which was installed in BIOS mode in UEFI 
mode, it doesn't see that partition and won't boot.


If you want to run Fedora in UEFI mode, I am relatively certain you have 
to reinstall (but I could absolutely be wrong). When I got a machine 
which supported UEFI, I initially turned off UEFI and Secure Boot 
because I'd heard horror stories about them with Linux. When I changed 
it to UEFI, I couldn't access my Linux installation. But since I had a 
backup of my home directory on another machine, I just nuked it and 
reinstalled, then restored my home directory.


I've actually set up my Linux machines so that they mount /home on an 
NFS file server in my home office. I can nuke my desktop and reinstall 
it in less than 10 minutes with a kickstart, and my home directory is 
unchanged. Makes it a lot easier when I do the inevitable "oops" and 
screw up my desktop.


As an aside: Using KVM virtualization has eliminated a lot of those 
"oops" moments. If I want to test software or something, I spin up a VM 
and test it there before I do it on my actual "production" workstation.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/24/24 18:43, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd.
So far no luck.
I've managed to get DVD listed as the
first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy.
The machine seems to try and fail.
The error messages go by rather fast.
I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such file",
but am not as sure as I'd like to be.
Most recently I tried and failed with
Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39.1.5.iso

Any idea what I should try next?

My late girlfriend used it.
I remember her password,
which is why she is not on the sudo list.
I do not remember either the root password or my own.


Condolences on the loss of your girlfriend. I'm sorry.

If the system was set up for legacy BIOS mode, changing it to UEFI mode 
will typically mean that the UEFI can't "see" the necessary disk 
partitions you need to boot. I would set it back to however it was when 
you started trying this so it boot off your existing partitions.


You can also create bootable media using a USB thumb drive if you follow 
the instructions at 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/. 
There's a section on how to do it from Windows or MacOS, too.


To recover the root password, you can do this: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/reset-root-password/


Then you can log in with root privileges and recover whatever is on the 
disk.


If you need additional help, post here and we'll help.

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Re: Hotel wifi network - how to connect / ssh between 2 laptops

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On 3/22/24 12:24, bruce wrote:

Or...

You might talk with the front desk/data person. If a group came in for
a meeting and wanted to do what you describe, they might have an
additional solution for you to use!

Might be worth checking out.

good luck


That's a great point, but in my experience, trying to talk to the front 
desk about tech related issues is... challenging. ;-)


But Bruce is absolutely correct, they may be able to help you out, or 
give you the number for the helpdesk and see if they can help you out.


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Re: Hotel wifi network - how to connect / ssh between 2 laptops

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On 3/22/24 11:09, Sbob wrote:

All


I have 2 laptops I need to connect for testing / coding via ssh, if I 
connect each to the hotel wifi I cannot connect across laptops with ssh, 
If I grab a wifi router and connect it to the hotel wifi and use the 
router's wifi will this work?



would it also work with a simple wifi extender?


Thanks for any advice


You will almost certainly not be able to connect between devices on a 
commercial wifi network. They don't want folks to attack other machines 
on the network. It would be a huge scandal if a hotel allowed a guest to 
connect to other guests' laptops.


If you want to connect between two laptops, I would just buy an ethernet 
cable (e.g. 
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Ethernet-Gold-Plated-Connectors/dp/B00N2VILDM) 
and configure one laptop with a static ethernet ip address of something 
like 172.31.101.1 and the other with 172.31.101.2. Add them to your 
/etc/hosts file like:


172.31.101.1laptop1
172.31.101.2laptop2

Then each of them would have wifi access out to the Internet, and they'd 
be able to ssh into each other using "ssh laptop1" or "ssh laptop2" for 
any connections between them.


It's a small pain, but it's a LOT easier than trying to circumvent 
security on commercial wifi networks (which can get you kicked off the 
network or even kicked out of the hotel or business).


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Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

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On 3/18/24 19:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with 
Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job 
for me.


I use an HP Color LaserJet MFP M281fdw [1], and it works *okay*. I set 
up scan to email and scan to shared folder, so it definitely does what I 
need as regards scanning and printing.


But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and 
they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw 
that. Never again.


[1] 
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/setup-user-guides/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m280-m281-multifunction-printer-series/model/14142491


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Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

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On 3/10/24 14:17, Dave Close wrote:

To me the analogy is, in the olden days, a company sending you postal
mail in care of the local post office, the PO sending you a post card
that something has arrived, and you having to go to the PO and show
your identification to retrieve the item. No one would have tolerated
that situation; why do we tolerate it on the Internet?


This is a GREAT analogy. You're absolutely right. Basically, the fora 
require you to open a browser/tab, log in, and only *then* can you read 
your message.


With email, it's passive. It comes in, you scan the subject, and decide 
what to do - discard, read, respond, or archive. No hoops to jump 
through, and you don't have to open another app to deal with it.


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Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

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On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote:
... but that's always the case with the myriad 
of fora which which I interact.


Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..."

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Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/10/24 14:32, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:


I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here.


Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your 
way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be.  Instead of 
keeping each forum open on a tab and obsessively going back and forth 
watching for replies and getting far less useful work done than you 
could, why don't you simply set as many of them as possible to email you 
when there's a reply?


I'm reading this:


Instead of keeping each forum open on a tab and obsessively going back and 
forth watching for replies


Where did I write that I did that at all? The Fedora forum *can* send 
emails, as Kevin pointed out, but that's always the case with the myriad 
of fora which which I interact.


Again, you're intentionally refusing to understand what I said. I won't 
be responding to further silliness.


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Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

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On 3/10/24 13:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

So, I agree with you about the push vs pull factor, so I interact with
discussion.fedoraproject.org via email. 

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960

You can decide what tags you want to 'subscribe' to, it sends emails
with list-id headers, you can filter them, reply to them, etc.
There are some drawbacks: If you want to start a thread you have to do
that with the web interface (so you can specify the tags), etc.

Of course that won't work for many, but for people who have a large
email infrastructure setup it might be a better way to interact with it.

kevin


Kevin, I'm gonna have to buy you your favorite beverage if I see you at 
Summit or SCALE or TXLF, man. I wasn't aware of the email functionality, 
and I'm absolutely going to dig into it. Thank you SO MUCH for posting 
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Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

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On 3/10/24 12:58, Joe Zeff wrote:
You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using 
it.  Why are you going out of your way to make your life difficult?


I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here.

It's that, in an email list, it's all in one place, and it's passive. It 
comes to me in an app I already have open all the time. I get a 
notification, and I can check it and decide whether to take action.


For fora, I have to explicitly remember that I've even posted something 
(which is often a problem due to the ADHD), then open a new browser or 
tab, go to the forum, log in, find my message, and see if there are any 
responses or whatever.


If you can't see the difference, I honestly don't know what to tell you.

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Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

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On 3/10/24 12:04, Joe Zeff wrote:


Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times?  How many of 
them do you actually need to look at each day?


I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go 
to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain.


Also, if I have a mail folder where my list traffic goes, I see that 
there are messages. It's passive. My email is always open. But if I want 
to catch up on fora, it's a separate process, opening a separate tab, 
for EVERY forum.


Am I making the distinction clear? Inbound email is passive, and super 
easy to catch up on. Going to a forum is an active, outbound process 
that I have to remember to do. Again, it's not a dig on fora, it's a dig 
on the process. Active vs. passive.


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Fora vs. mailing lists

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Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum 
to discuss a topic or technology, like 
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/.


Having said that...

I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the 
correct mail folder, I can read through them at my leisure, and I only 
have to deal with one client - my mail client. My mail client defaults 
to sane viewing rules, threaded, in the order I prefer. It's the same 
experience across every mailing list I'm a member of. I love that. It's 
very accessibility-friendly.


I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each 
forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. And I have to go out of my way to even 
remember all the fora I am a member of. For those of us who are members 
of a bunch, it's kind of a beating - especially if you're an ADHD 
person, like me. I get that I can (sometimes) set up email notifications 
when there are responses to my posts or comments, but... if we're 
already emailing forum members, why the heck don't we just use email lists?


I also love that I see interesting problems on mailing lists that I'd 
never thought of or dealt with, and it's right there, in the list's mail 
folder. I learn a LOT perusing those messages. It's there, I can easily 
read through the threads when I get a minute. And I don't have to 
remember to fire up a new browser tab to parse them.


The whole "fora are an archive" argument is kinda nonsensical, since 
mailing lists are generally archived on the web, as well. In my 
experience, mailing list archives are easier to search than a forum.


I get the sense that moving from email lists to fora was a move to force 
folks to go to a web site to drive advertising. I kinda hate that. When 
Red Hat moved from email lists to fora (log in required), I got the 
sense that it was really to gather information about who was interacting 
with their web site. Ditto pretty much every other vendor who moved from 
email lists to web based fora - this isn't a Red Hat or Fedora specific 
thing.


Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where I'm 
just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing lists 
to fora?


To be clear, I am not bashing fora, per se - I'm just saying that for 
me, they're not NEARLY as easy to deal with as email lists. If you like 
fora, that's awesome. I'm not attacking you. Let's nip that in the bud. 
I'm not looking for a flame war, just trying to see if other feel the 
same way. Let's keep it civil.


Thanks,
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Re: Thunderbird Mystery

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On 2/27/24 09:08, Tim via users wrote:

Is Thunderbird one of those apps that always runs once started, and
never quits when you close the window?


There have been times in the past where this is the case, but they're 
few and far between these days. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I 
haven't seen it close but not kill the process in a long time. But when 
it does do that, it will often leave the lock file and cause the error 
that it's already running.



If so, I wonder if it's bad at handling users logging out and/or
rebooting their computer?  (Not removing the lock as it quits, or not
being able to.)


That's pretty much the only time I've seen it happen. If you shut down 
your system while apps are running, there's a decent chance one of the 
apps will not close gracefully. I always just make sure I don't have 
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Re: Thunderbird Mystery

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On 2/26/24 19:44, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is 
already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can 
recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does not get it to 
work. Looked at the ".thunderbird" file in the user directory and there 
are lots of entries there to make sense about. I can't close an instance 
that I can't find. The pop up window suggests using a different profile 
but I don't see any way to select a profile.


Tried erasing Thunderbird and installing it again but the problem remains.


Every once in a while, Thunderbird just loses its mind. No idea why. But 
I will generally just rename my ~/.thunderbird directory to something 
like ~/.thunderbird.old and launch Thunderbird again.


It stinks, because you have to re-download your email, but it always 
clears it up.


Or, as others have said, look for a lock file. In my case it's under 
/home/thomas/.thunderbird/huvoz3fr.default-release/lock or 
/home/thomas/.thunderbird/huvoz3fr.default-release/.parentlock. See if 
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Re: Libre Office and the secondary clipboard

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On 2/23/24 14:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 39
libreoffice7.6-7.6.5.2-2.x86_64 (From LO's web site)

Is it just me or is LO's Secondary clipboard ( etc.)
a real pain in your neck?  The first copy work.  The second
does not.  The paste is still the first copy.   I have to paste
to Leafpad and recopy to get it to work.

Odd that it will paste to Leafpad, but other maintain the
first copy.  I can  all I want in LO nd it is
still the first copy.   And that includes inside LO.  Why
Leafpad is working, I can only fathom.


Todd, do you mind sharing which desktop environment (DE) you're using? 
Different DEs manage copy-n-paste differently.


Are you using any sort of clipboard manager or anything?

I've experienced this, and never really got a great answer, so I'm 
definitely interested in this thread.


Also, check out 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/copy-paste-clipboard-issues-libreoffice-calc/45811/23 
- it *might* be related to what you're experiencing.


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Re: star office

[Thomas Cameron]

On 2/22/24 15:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

No to ask too stupid a question, but do we have an
RPM of Star Office in the repos?

Seems like we have the libraries, but not the
main program

# dnf list | grep -i star | grep -i office
libstaroffice.x86_64  0.0.7-11.fc39 @fedora


Star Division was bought by Sun, which was then bought by Oracle, which 
then mucked around with the Open Source license for Star Office.


Star Office was forked, and the fork is called LibreOffice. So if you 
need Star Office functionality, just install LibreOffice:


sudo dnf groupinstall LibreOffice

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Re: procmail question

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On 1/26/24 10:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I used procmail for years and never had an issue with it. However I
don't like unmaintained software so removed it when support was
dropped. The problem with Sieve (and several other options) is that
they're server-side, so if your server doesn't support them, and you
don't want to run your own local server (plus e.g. fetchmail) you're
dependent on what your mail provider allows.


I run the servers, so I can install whatever I want, but... I chatted 
with a couple of folks on IRC, including someone who knows the guy who 
wrote that article. Turns out that procmail really IS still being 
maintained, both by vendors like Red Hat, Canonical, Suse, etc., and 
independent developers. There's even talk about forming a new mailing 
list for those developers. It's definitely being maintained.


After digging in a bit, I'm going to stick with procmail since I already 
know it.


If anyone has any opinions to the contrary, I'm happy to be educated, 
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procmail question

[Thomas Cameron]

I'm reading articles saying procmail is dangerous and unmaintained 
(https://anarc.at/blog/2022-03-02-procmail-considered-harmful/).


I get why a setuid root:mail binary is potentially dangerous, but 
procmail has been in use for decades and I don't think I've ever heard 
of it being used for an exploit except for way back in 2017 and 2014 
(https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-225/Procmail.html). 



Anyone got any recommendations? I've used procmail for decades. I'm 
pretty familiar with it. I *can* migrate to sieve, but procmail Just 
Works(TM), so I'm hesitant.


Is the risk overblown? We're using Postfix and procmail and it seems to 
be really solid. I am not really looking forward to migrating to sieve, 
so I'd rather just stick with what I know, you know?


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Re: NVMe sector size ?

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On 1/10/24 12:39, Bob Marčan wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 12:19:30 -0600
"Thomas Cameron"  wrote:


I just checked my system, and it looks like it's set for 512k blocks:

[root@case ~]# blockdev --report /dev/nvme1n1p4
RORA   SSZ   BSZStartSecSize   Device
rw   256   512   51269216256964765417472   /dev/nvme1n1p4

I assume the installer chose the block size, since I basically did a
"next, next, next" installation. Should I have chosen something different?

Thomas



[root@smicro bob]# di |grep nvme
/dev/nvme0n1p2 /boot   1.9G 0.5G 1.3G   32%  ext4
/dev/nvme0n1p1 /boot/efi1022.0M17.4M  1004.6M2%  vfat<==
/dev/nvme1n1p4 /root-ssd1849.9G88.0G   718.6G   15%  ext4
[root@smicro bob]#
[root@smicro bob]# blockdev --report /dev/nvme*
RORA   SSZ   BSZStartSecSize   Device
blockdev: ioctl error on /dev/nvme0
rw   256   512  4096   0   1000204886016   /dev/nvme0n1
rw   256   512   5122048  1073741824   /dev/nvme0n1p1 
<==
rw   256   512  4096 2099200  2147483648   /dev/nvme0n1p2
rw   256   512  4096 6293504 68719476736   /dev/nvme0n1p3
rw   256   512  4096   140511232928262389760   /dev/nvme0n1p4
blockdev: ioctl error on /dev/nvme1
rw   256   512  4096   0   1000204886016   /dev/nvme1n1
rw   256   512  40962048  1073741824   /dev/nvme1n1p1
rw   256   512  4096 2099200  2147483648   /dev/nvme1n1p2
rw   256   512  4096 6293504 68719476736   /dev/nvme1n1p3
rw   256   512  4096   140511232928262389760   /dev/nvme1n1p4
[root@smicro bob]#





Ah, ok... I see. My first drive is a Windows drive, the second is Linux:

[root@case ~]# blockdev --report /dev/nvme*
RORA   SSZ   BSZStartSecSize   Device
blockdev: ioctl error on /dev/nvme0
rw   256   512  4096   0   1000204886016   /dev/nvme0n1
rw   256   512  40962048   104857600   /dev/nvme0n1p1
rw   256   512  4096  20684816777216   /dev/nvme0n1p2
rw   256   512  4096  239616999373668352   /dev/nvme0n1p3
rw   256   512  4096  1952141312   706740224   /dev/nvme0n1p4
blockdev: ioctl error on /dev/nvme1
rw   256   512  4096   0   1000204886016   /dev/nvme1n1
rw   256   512   5122048   629145600   /dev/nvme1n1p1
rw   256   512   512 1230848  1073741824   /dev/nvme1n1p2
rw   256   512  4096 3328000 33734787072   /dev/nvme1n1p3
rw   256   512   51269216256964765417472   /dev/nvme1n1p4
[root@case ~]#

I wonder why the installer chose a 512k block size on my largest 
partition, but 4096 for my swap? I don't recall seeing a block size 
option during installation, but I may very well have missed it.


I'll throw it out there again, though: should I have done something 
different during installation?


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Re: NVMe sector size ?

[Thomas Cameron]

I just checked my system, and it looks like it's set for 512k blocks:

[root@case ~]# blockdev --report /dev/nvme1n1p4
RORA   SSZ   BSZStartSecSize   Device
rw   256   512   51269216256964765417472   /dev/nvme1n1p4

I assume the installer chose the block size, since I basically did a 
"next, next, next" installation. Should I have chosen something different?


Thomas

On 1/10/24 11:31, John Mellor wrote:
Almost all NVMe drives use 4k sectors.  Its actually hard on the drive 
to use 512 byte sectors, as when you write a block and sync it, it has 
to read and then rewrite the rest of the 4k block. That's unnecessary 
writes, shortening your drive life.  Most Linux platforms will read the 
natural sector size from the drive when you format it, so using 512 byte 
sectors is pretty rare these days, unless you forced it of course.


On 2024-01-10 4:58 a.m., lejeczek via users wrote:

Hi guys.

I wonder if anybody played with both sector sizes 512 & 4086 and if 
yes so - also had some test results / thoughts to share?


There are bits about it - bit confusing & a mixed-bag - over the net 
but I failed to find anything Fedora-specific.


thanks, L.

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Re: How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/21/23 14:39, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron  said:

So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to
Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux
team sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this
list talk about TeamViewer and AnyDesk, but both of those seem to be
paid solutions. Is there any sort of F/OSS solution?


In essence, these solutions are functionally like using a VPN.  The
computer keeps an open connection to a server whenever it can, and that
connection can then be used to allow the server to access the computer.
So you could set up a separate "management" VPN system, like OpenVPN,
that then isolates each client connection (so one user can't access
another user's computer directly across it).  Don't send a default
route, just use an independent RFC1918 (or IPv6 ULA) block from any
other corporate networks.


Yeah, I was looking at things like Nebula for a sort of background VPN 
for systems management, but that looks like overkill.


I may wind up just having a tiny OpenVPN instance in the cloud that 
users can connect to so admins can ssh in or run playbooks over the VPN. 
I was hoping for something less manual, though. With the Windows 
laptops, as soon as folks authenticate to Azure AD, the helpdesk guys 
can just fire up a remote desktop. I'd love something that easy.


I suppose I could set up the laptops so that they log into the VPN at 
boot, that would do the same thing and the staff on the Linux laptops 
wouldn't have to do anything manual. But I don't want to chew up that 
VPN bandwidth if I don't have to.


Thomas
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How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

In my company, we're rolling out Linux laptops to my team. We're 100% 
remote workers, no one even lives in the same state as the headquarters.


If my teammates are logged into the VPN, it's pretty easy to administer 
a team member's laptop - I just ask the user for the IP address and ssh 
in as the service account (with keys, not passwords), or run an Ansible 
playbook against the machine.


For the Windows users (not on my team), our helpdesk uses Quick Assist, 
and IT can remote desktop into anyone who's logged in to the Azure 
Active Directory domain. Even if the person is behind a cable modem 
doing NAT.


So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to 
Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux team 
sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this list talk 
about TeamViewer and AnyDesk, but both of those seem to be paid 
solutions. Is there any sort of F/OSS solution? I am totally OK with 
hosting a cloud instance as an authentication server or something like 
that. I also heard something about Chrome Remote Desktop. Apparently 
Google does session brokering, so that may be interesting, although 
we're not a Google shop, we're a Microsoft shop and I'm bringing Linux 
in. I'd much prefer a F/OSS solution, if anyone has any advice.


Thanks for any advice!
Thomas
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Re: libvirt / qemu / kvm bridged network

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On 12/12/23 20:03, Sbob wrote:

Hi;


I'm running Fedora 39, I have installed qemu / libvirt / kvm


I have found many guides on setting up bridged networking but none have 
worked. Can someone point me to a proper guide?



Thanks in advance
Setting up bridged networking is nowhere near as simple as it was in 
older versions of Linux. I've just about given up doing it from the 
command line.


I install cockpit, start the cockpit.socket service, connect to cockpit 
on port 9090, go to Networking, add a bridge, tell the bridge which 
interface to add, and it Just Works(TM).


Thomas
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Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook was working, but recent update not getting 50 selerts??

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Actually, that brings up another point, that I don't know if it's still
the case.

When you write a file to a specific place, the SELinux contexts are set
for what's usually expected at that file path.  e.g. Write a page.html
file in your homespace, and it'll get general context that won't be
readable by a webserver.

If you copied that file to another place, the copy will be written with
the expected contexts for that new place.  e.g. If you copied that
page.html to your webserver serving path, the copy will get contexts
that allow it to be web served.

If you moved a file to another place, the original contexts went with
the file.  e.g. Your page.html in your homespace with general purpose
contexts ends up in your webserver serving path still with general
purpose contexts that don't allow it to be served.

That kind of thing caused problems for people who migrated various
kinds of data from one point to another, instead of copying it, or
creating it in the right place to start with.
  


Yup. In the video I linked to earlier, I talk about that problem. It's 
an easy mistake to make. Almost always, the solution is to just 
restorecon -vR the parent directory and you'll see what it was, and what 
it was changed to. Then it starts working.

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Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook was working, but recent update not getting 50 selerts??

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On 12/9/23 07:36, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:

On 9 Dec 2023 at 18:02, Tim wrote:

Subject:Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook
was working, but
recent update not getting 50 selerts??
From:   Tim 
To: mi...@guam.net, Community support for Fedora
users

Date sent:  Sat, 09 Dec 2023 18:02:43 +1030

Did a dnf reinstall * to see if maybe somethings had installed
before something else. Then reenabled selinux and rebooted.
Originally go then 50 messages again that seemed to be same.
Unfortunately, the setrouble browser has a option to show the 50
messages summary, but I can do a ctrl-a to highlight them all but
ctrl-C does not work to copy them..
Deleted them all. They didn't immediately come back.
Did just get 12 pop up, and these are for sshd and mandb?

last one is mandb
setattr
index.db

SELINUX Alert browser doesn't let on copy top part or if you were
trying part? also doesn't let copy the list of all info??

Does let one copy this part, but have no clue what FILE_TYPE
would be used, or where this index.db file is located?

First 3 are sshd with read, open, getattr all with inactive.mod
Then 9 with mandb with create, write, ioctl, read, open, rename,
unlink, lock, setattr. with 29605, 29605, xscreensaver.1.gz (3
times), 29605, index.db, 29605, index.db.

Did have 2 earlier ones that were with boinc, and talked about
missing selinux type boinc_t??

Since can't copy stuff from here is what would copy for last one?


You need to change the label on index.db
# semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE 'index.db'
where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: boot_t, cert_t, device_t,
dhcpc_state_t, etc_aliases_t, etc_mail_t, etc_runtime_t, faillog_t,
fonts_t, getty_lock_t, httpd_lock_t, initrc_state_t, initrc_tmp_t,
initrc_var_log_t, initrc_var_run_t, ipsec_mgmt_lock_t,
ipsec_var_run_t, iptables_lock_t, krb5_host_rcache_t,
krb5kdc_lock_t, lastlog_t, local_login_lock_t, locale_t, lvm_lock_t,
mnt_t, net_conf_t, postgresql_db_t, postgresql_lock_t,
semanage_read_lock_t, semanage_trans_lock_t, sshd_key_t,
sysctl_fs_t, sysctl_t, system_conf_t, system_dbusd_var_lib_t,
systemd_passwd_var_run_t, udev_rules_t, udev_var_run_t,
user_home_dir_t, user_home_t, var_lib_t, var_lock_t, var_log_t,
var_spool_t, wtmp_t, xdm_lock_t.
Then execute:
restorecon -v 'index.db'


The files should inherit either the label of the directory they're 
created in, or if a specific context has been set for a filename, it 
should get that context.


Normally, if something's incorrectly labeled, you can just restorecon -v 
the file to see what it was changed to. In this example, I created an 
index.html in root's home directory and them moved it to /var/www/html. 
When I restorecon -vR /var/www it shows me what it WAS labeled, and what 
it was changed to:


[root@haproxy ~]# restorecon -vR /var/www/
Relabeled /var/www/html/index.html from 
unconfined_u:object_r:admin_home_t:s0 to 
unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0


So if you're getting errors on mislabeled files, the first bet is to 
just do a restorecon -v on it, or restorecon -vR on the parent directory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WOKRaM-HI4 for a less than 45 minute 
lesson on the basics of SELinux.


If you're running something which was compiled from source, for 
instance, it may not understand what SELinux label it's supposed to 
have, or even just not understand SELinux.


You might want to set the app to run unconfined. Description on how to 
do this is here: 
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index#sect-Security-Enhanced_Linux-Targeted_Policy-Unconfined_Processes


Hope this is helpful.

Thomas
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Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/2/23 15:14, Andras Simon wrote:

Why not remove just kernel-core? dnf will take care of the dependent
packages (kernel-modules and the rest).


Removing kernel-core totally makes sense.

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Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

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Here's what I do. It's on RHEL, but the process is the same for Fedora.

First, find all kernels which are installed.The last one is the latest, 
so we ignore that one.


--
[root@neuromancer ~]# rpm -qa kernel | sort
kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-362.8.1.el9_3.x86_64
--

Grab the version number for the oldest two and use that to find all 
related packages installed on my machine:


--
[root@neuromancer ~]# rpm -qa | grep -e 5.14.0-284.25.1 -e 5.14.0-284.30.1
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
--

Now remove all the RPMs with those version numbers. This is all one long 
command:


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kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
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Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 11/7/23 01:46, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:

Though I do have imap available on my mail server if I ever want to use it.


That's your answer, bud. POP is ancient and crufty, and as others have 
said, different mail servers do different, often weird, things to the 
messages.


Switch to IMAP, it'll be a lot easier for you, I promise.

Thomas
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Re: docker and iptables

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On 10/20/23 11:42, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 10/20/2023 01:39 AM, jdow wrote:
I bet something as simple as "horsehair" is far enough down the guess 
list that the probability of a successful attack is out at way more 
time than I have life left. When you can put time on your side life's 
great.


I used to house sit for Jerry Pournelle, and you might consider 
something like his WiFi password: ThisIsAVeryLongPassword

pwgen 16 -cnys
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Re: Creating a bridge

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 8/14/23 20:54, Alex wrote:

Hi,
I've just installed fedora38 over my previous fedora install but didn't 
save my network config that included a bridge to allow for local IPs for 
my virtual machines. Is there a network tool that I can use to create a 
bridge so I can then use the bridge option with virt-manager to assign 
IPs to my Win10 virtual machine?


I'm used to doing the old-school network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 stuff by 
hand, but realize that doesn't exist anymore.


Perhaps someone has a basic /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections 
bridge config they could paste here to get me started or the proper 
nmcli commands I need?


I suppose I could probably also use NAT, but I'd rather have my gateway 
doing the NAT.


# ip addr
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
group default qlen 1000

     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
     inet 127.0.0.1/8  scope host lo
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
     inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp4s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel 
state UP group default qlen 1000

     link/ether c8:7f:54:cd:b7:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.1.7/24  brd 192.168.1.255 scope 
global dynamic noprefixroute enp4s0

        valid_lft 31976sec preferred_lft 31976sec
     inet6 fe80::ca7f:54ff:fecd:b7bc/64 scope link noprefixroute
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: wlo1:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000
     link/ether 4a:d4:02:42:a2:2e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff permaddr 
2c:3b:70:47:ce:08

     altname wlp5s0
4: virbr0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000

     link/ether 52:54:00:c8:a0:df brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.122.1/24  brd 192.168.122.255 
scope global virbr0

        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

Thanks,
Alex
If you have cockpit installed, fire up your browser and go to the 
networking section. Choose to create a bridge, associate the interface 
you want attached to the bridge, and it will set it all up for you.


Otherwise, the nmcli steps outlined will do it for you. I find it a lot 
easier to just use cockpit. Literally a couple of clicks and it creates 
the bridge, attaches the interface, and you don't have to remember the 
crazy nmcli syntax.


But I'm lazy, so take it for what it's worth. ;-)

Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/30/23 21:45, John Mellor wrote:

On 2023-07-30 17:39, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen 
since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or 
Thunderbird issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in 
upper left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at 
first. Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future 
versions will be usable. 


You don't mention what GUI is installed.  Assuming that you are using 
the default Wayland and not X, per a recommendation from one of the 
Fedora people, I installed thunderbird-wayland package and then 
changed the app startup to use thunderbird-wayland instead of just 
thunderbird.  There is a very long pause before thunderbird comes up, 
and then it just works.  Mention was also made of this fix being 
merged at a later date.


I have no idea why thunderbird and not thunderbird-wayland is in the 
software app list.  You have to do the install from CLI because of 
this secondary foulup.


I apologize, I should have been more clear. In my case, I use Xfce. I am 
not using Wayland, I am using plain old X11:


[thomas.cameron@case Desktop]$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
x11

I have to use the NVidia drivers, so I've shied away from Wayland.

Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since 
the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird 
issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in upper 
left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at first. 
Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future versions 
will be usable.


Thomas
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Re: xfce4 desktop problem

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/5/23 13:02, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Running xfce4 desktop on f38 terminal the desktop windows have lost 
the window bar at the top. Can't reposition open windows.


They are fine if I switch to LXDE or kde. What part of xfce needs to 
be reinstalled?


The nuclear option is to boot to run level 3 or log in as another user 
and delete the following directories:


rm -rf /home/yourname/.cache/xfce4
rm -rf /home/yourname/.config/xfce4
rm -rf /home/yourname/.local/share/xfce4

Then when you log back in, xfce4 will start up with the default settings.

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Re: What causes mailing list bounce?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 6/19/23 14:39, Chris Adams wrote:


I think it only does the rewrite for p=reject and p=quarantine, not
p=none, since by definition, p=none is for monitoring.  If you don't
want to monitor, then don't set DMARC or set a policy that would require
rewrites.
ISTR that I was getting tons of reports before I went to p=none. Is 
there a way to make sure that my emails to the list server aren't 
getting rejected by third parties? That is why I wound up changing it to 
p=none.


I guess I can change it to quarantine and test it with my gmail account 
or something.

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Re: What causes mailing list bounce?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/19/23 12:17, Richard wrote:

Another issue on this relates to DMARC. If the mailing list doesn't
rewrite the From: header and your mail service provider's servers
enforce DMARC (DKIM/SPF), your mail service provider's servers will
reject messages from list senders whose domains have DMARC set. You
can often get a hint of this if you see messages on a list with
replies to messages that you haven't gotten. E.g., you never see
messages from person X, but you do see replies to their messages on
the list or their messages are in the list archive.

Mailman 3 has the necessary tools for dealing with this, but it looks
like mail.kde.org is still running version 2. So my guess is that
they aren't doing header rewriting, and that that's likely your
issue. You'll need to take this up with them.

See:  for a very quick
intro to this issue.
As far as I can tell, the Fedora mailing list doesn't do this, either. I 
get a STACK of error messages every time I send email to this list. 
Every message says that the addresses I've published via DNS don't match 
the IP address of the Fedora mailing list server, so I have to look at 
dozens of error messages. It's incredibly frustrating. Like, frustrating 
to the point that I am about to just quit using DMARC because the signal 
to noise ratio is unacceptable.


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Re: Anyone else seeing libvirtd refusing connections after a day?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/19/23 12:33, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:55:26AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:

I have a dedicated Fedora 38 KVM hypervisor that I use for testing, and I
also use my desktop to run VMs. When I leave the virtualization manager app
open (typically overnight), it has disconnected from the remote hypervisor
and from my local hypervisor. When I double click the connection, it just
hangs. If I restart libvirtd on the hypervisor and on my desktop, it
connects instantly.

Is anyone else seeing this?

I have seen something like this, only connecting to the local service.

I was able to resolve it using the fix in Comment 4 of this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2213660#c4


Many thanks, Jonathan. I've implemented that config file, we'll see how 
to goes!


Thomas
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Anyone else seeing libvirtd refusing connections after a day?

[Thomas Cameron]

I have a dedicated Fedora 38 KVM hypervisor that I use for testing, and 
I also use my desktop to run VMs. When I leave the virtualization 
manager app open (typically overnight), it has disconnected from the 
remote hypervisor and from my local hypervisor. When I double click the 
connection, it just hangs. If I restart libvirtd on the hypervisor and 
on my desktop, it connects instantly.


Is anyone else seeing this?

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Re: issue with dnf system upgrade

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/5/23 08:14, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.

Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
system-upgrade-reboot:

1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter 
key on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still 
no display...
3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system 
upgrade was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) : 
I could see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but 
all my previous display settings were gone
4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the 
fc34 kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in 
/boot
5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some fc36 
packages have been installed.


What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now?

At that point, I would boot off the Fedora 38 workstation live image, 
back up your /home directory to a USB disk or something like that, nuke 
your computer, and do a fresh install, and restore your home directory.


You're coming from a REALLY old version which was probably really out of 
date to another pretty old version which is already and of life. I'd 
back up, wipe the drive, start fresh, and restore your home directory. 
It will probably be much faster than trying to fix a broken system.


Thomas
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Re: How to set up dhcpd.conf to serve different UEFI files per OS

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/4/23 17:30, Chris Adams wrote:

Again, the DHCP request that gets a response "use this file" comes from
the firmware, not the OS.

It goes something like:

- BIOS/UEFI configured for network boot sends DHCP request
- DHCP server says "use this file (aka shim)"
- BIOS/UEFI loads that file and runs it
- shim loads grub2 or pxelinux, they get their configs/menus
- you choose an OS to load
- grub2/pxelinux fetches kernel and checks the signature and fails it it
   doesn't match

The step that has to change between Fedora and RHEL is step #2, when the
DHCP says "use this file", and at that point, the only thing involved is
the BIOS/UEFI firmware.  The only available info at that point is some
very minimal hardware info like the MAC address.  After that, it's too
late to change.

Fair enough.

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Re: How to set up dhcpd.conf to serve different UEFI files per OS

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/4/23 17:12, Samuel Sieb wrote:
The part you're missing is that it isn't the OS that's sending the 
DHCP request.  It's the BIOS.  There's no OS loaded yet, that's what 
you're trying to boot. 
The hardware definitely sends a DHCP request when it tries to PXE boot. 
But when the OS actually loads, it sends a separate DHCP request. I was 
hoping to find that and use it for an if/then/else sort of menu.


But that's probably too late, if I understand the boot and installation 
processes.


Thomas
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Re: How to set up dhcpd.conf to serve different UEFI files per OS

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/4/23 16:25, Barry wrote:

I have always seen this done by having tooling that read a database of hardware 
mac addresses mapped to config.

With that setup you “just” edit the database to switch the os you want and 
rebuild
your dhcpd/tftpd config.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of my systems are virtual machines, so 
the MAC addresses are dynamically generated. And even with the physical 
servers, I go back and forth between RHEL and Fedora on a pretty regular 
basis. So that MAC address mapping doesn't necessarily stay the same.


I think the easiest thing in my little environment is to write a little 
shell script that copies the RHEL or Fedora shim.efi to 
/var/lib/tftpboot before I kickstart a machine. I suspect that it will 
take a little bit before I do it out of habit, but I install machines so 
frequently for different projects that it will become a habit pretty 
quickly.


I really wish that there was something in the OS that would identify 
itself when it sends a DHCP broadcast. I've read up 
https://kb.isc.org/docs/isc-dhcp-44-manual-pages-dhcp-options and it 
suggested that I add:


set vendor-string = option vendor-class-identifier;

to my dhcpd.conf, and I tried it. But all that I see in the logs when I 
get a dhcp request is:


lease 172.31.100.165 {
  starts 0 2023/06/04 21:55:20;
  ends 0 2023/06/04 22:55:20;
  cltt 0 2023/06/04 21:55:20;
  binding state active;
  next binding state free;
  rewind binding state free;
  hardware ethernet 30:e1:71:51:24:18;
  uid "\0010\341qQ$\030";
  set vendor-string = "anaconda-Linux";
  set vendor-class-identifier = "anaconda-Linux";
}

I feel like there's more info in the dhcp requests than I know how to 
find. Still digging.

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Re: How to set up dhcpd.conf to serve different UEFI files per OS

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On 6/4/23 14:40, Chris Adams wrote:

As far as I can tell, you cannot configure network boot for different
OSes in a UEFI Secure Boot environment.  The shim is loaded first,
before you get to the point of choosing which kernel to boot, and a
given distribution's shim will only load other Linux things signed by
that distribution's key.

It'd be nice if there was a way to chainload one shim from another
(they're all signed by the MS firmware-trusted key, so it seems like
this should be possible and still meet the security requirements), so
you could have a menu option "Switch to RHEL" that would load the RHEL
shim+bootloader, but I don't think that's possible today.  I'm using
grub2 for network book rather than syslinux, but I couldn't figure out a
way to make that work.

The only way to handle it would be to distinguish the clients at the
DHCP server (use separate VLANs, pre-configure MAC addresses, etc.).
Once the DHCP server sends an answer, it's too late to change.
Yeah, that's why I was hoping there was maybe some magic in the 
vendor-class-identifier response that I could use. It would make life a 
LOT easier.


I've started using cobbler again 
(https://cobbler.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quickstart-guide.html). 
Cobbler was HORRIBLY broken in Fedora 37, but it seems to be fixed in 
38. I do love that, when I set up a distro, it automatically creates the 
grub.cfg file in /var/lib/tftpboot/grub and creates the menu files for 
me. I actually have my kickstarts set up such that I can install Fedora 
38 and RHEL 9, except for this weird shim issue. I guess when I'm going 
to install RHEL machines, I need to copy the RHEL shim.efi to 
/var/lib/tftpboot, and when I'm going to install Fedora machines, copy 
the Fedora shim.efi. It's kind of a pain in the backside. But I can 
script it pretty easily. I just need to remember to run the script when 
I decide to change what I'm installing.


Thanks so much for the answer, I appreciate it, Chris.

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How to set up dhcpd.conf to serve different UEFI files per OS

[Thomas Cameron]

I am trying to kickstart multiple versions of Linux. Some of my systems 
are BIOS based, and some are UEFI based.


I have a stanza in my dhcpd.conf file that looks like this:

    class "pxeclients" {
    match if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = 
"PXEClient";

    next-server 172.31.100.1;
    if option architecture-type = 00:07 {
    filename "shim.efi";
    } else {
    filename "pxelinux.0";
    }
  }

I got the shim.efi I am serving from the tftpboot directory from the 
Fedora 38 shim-x64 package.


The problem is, when I try to kickstart a RHEL machine, it errors out 
saying the shim is invalid.


Is it that the shim.efi file is signed for UEFI environments, and the 
RHEL kernel is expecting the signature for the RHEL shim.efi file? If 
so, how do I specify which shim.efi file I want to use based on the 
kernel? I would assume I'd need to add the correct shim.efi file in 
/var/lib/tftpboot/images/[kickstart_os] the same as I add the vmlinuz 
and initrd.img. But how do I tell the machine being kickstarted where to 
get the correct shim.efi? Is there a vendor-class-identifier I can check 
to see what the OS is, and then point the machine being kickstarted to 
that file?


Or am I going about this the wrong way?

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Re: F37: any suggestions on this WebEx error on F37?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/26/23 13:25, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Thanks very much! It more or less put me on the right track. After a perceived 
clean exit of WebEx:

$ ps ux
  localusr  5546 25.8  3.6 6429840 581604 ?  Sl   13:16   0:07 
/opt/Webex/bin/CiscoCollabHost /opt/Webex/lib/ libWebexAppLoader.so /Start
  localusr  5551  0.0  0.3 504684 56320 ?S13:16   0:00 
/opt/Webex/bin/CiscoCollabHostCef --type=zygote --no-zygote-sandbox 
--log-severity=disable --lang=en-US --user-data-dir=/home/localusr/.local/
  localusr  5552  0.0  0.3 504676 56448 ?S13:16   0:00 
/opt/Webex/bin/CiscoCollabHostCef --type=zygote --log-severity=disable 
--lang=en-US --user-data-dir=/home/localusr/.local/share/Webex --log-fi
  localusr  5554  0.0  0.0 504700 14364 ?S13:16   0:00 
/opt/Webex/bin/CiscoCollabHostCef --type=zygote --log-severity=disable 
--lang=en-US --user-data-dir=/home/localusr/.local/share/Webex --log-fi
  localusr  5708  3.9  0.0  0 0 ?Z13:16   0:01 
[CiscoCollabHost] 
  localusr  5740  0.1  0.3 48315076 60060 ?  Sl   13:16   0:00 
/opt/Webex/lib/../bin/CiscoCollabHostCef --type=renderer --log-severity=disable 
--user-data-dir=/home/localusr/.local/share/Webex --first-rend
  localusr  5849  0.6  0.0  0 0 ?Z13:16   0:00 
[CiscoCollabHost] 

So, now when I do a

$ killall /opt/Webex/bin/CiscoCollabHost

the problem goes away temporarily, till the next cycle of WebEx being shut down.

Not quite sure why a clean exit keeps these things hanging or what a LT fix 
could be. Any ideas?

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
That's almost certainly an issue to bring up with WebEx. If there is any 
way to send feedback or open a ticket with your WebEx account, please do.


I had to stop using the Linux WebEx client because it's so buggy. 
Instead, I use WebEx through Firefox on Linux. I am a technical trainer, 
and I teach using WebEx, so it's a real bummer. WebEx support has been 
somewhat helpful, but they just don't have Linux experts on staff, so 
they're sort of hobbled.


Try it through your browser. I used to have issues using WebEx via 
Chrome, but it's been a long time since I tried. It might have cleared 
up with newer versions of Chrome. But Firefox has been very solid, and I 
am on WebEx 9 or more hours/day, 3-5 days/week.


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Re: ide editor??

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

There's only one true editor for developers:

emacs

Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness.


EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. 

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Re: ide editor??

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/23/23 16:44, bruce wrote:

Hi.

Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
why if you care to expound).

Are  there any you prefer for linux vs windows?

just curious...


I use vim, but I'm not a power programmer, just an old sysadmin who has 
to tinker with code every once in a while.


I've used VS Code in the past, and it's nicer than I want to admit, 
coming from Microsoft.


There is a decent article which talks about vim based editors at 
https://geekflare.com/best-vim-editors/, that may help you some.


Eclipse has a solid reputation.

There's also this article which talks about the difference between code 
editors and IDEs: 
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distros-programmers/.


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Re: Transaction test error

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/15/23 11:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

Running an update of fc36, I get
Error: Transaction test error:
   file /usr/lib/.build-id/a8/5d273e920106a68e86541b187062d7dbef328a conflicts 
between attempted installs of 
java-latest-openjdk-headless-1:20.0.1.0.9-3.rolling.fc36.x86_64 and 
java-17-openjdk-headless-1:17.0.7.0.7-1.fc36.x86_64


Here are the java files which are supposed to be updated:

java-17-openjdk  x86_64 1:17.0.7.0.7-1.fc36 updates  428 k
java-17-openjdk-develx86_64 1:17.0.7.0.7-1.fc36 updates  4.7 M
java-17-openjdk-headless x86_64 1:17.0.7.0.7-1.fc36 updates   42 M
java-latest-openjdk  x86_64 1:20.0.1.0.9-3.rolling.fc36 updates  447 k
java-latest-openjdk-headless x86_64 1:20.0.1.0.9-3.rolling.fc36 updates   44 M


Try this:

dnf update --best --allowerasing

Watch what gets removed, and replace anything that you needed.

Is there a reason you have multiple versions of Java installed? You 
might want to get rid of the older version (java-17-openjdk*) unless you 
have a specific reason to have it.


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Re: Solution: Weird irritation with Firefox not lowering when I middle click on it

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/15/23 15:11, Thomas Cameron wrote:
I use Xfce on Fedora 38. I recently did a fresh install of the OS, and 
somehow when I launched Firefox, it wasn't honoring my Xfce 
configuration that lowers a window when I middle-click on the title bar.


The solution took a LOT of digging. I asked in #xfce on Libera Chat IRC, 
and the folks there (shout out to NoobAlice) had me check all my Xfce 
settings, and they were right. Then she had be right click on the menu 
bar for Firefox, choose "Customize Toolbar," and check the box on the 
lower left that says "Title Bar."


Once I did that, it exposed the title bar in Xfce, and middle click 
worked as expected.


I'm posting it to the list so that, next time I forget about this trick, 
I can Google it. :-D


Typo: "she had ME right click on the menu bar," not "she had be right 
click..."


Sorry about that.

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Solution: Weird irritation with Firefox not lowering when I middle click on it

[Thomas Cameron]

I use Xfce on Fedora 38. I recently did a fresh install of the OS, and 
somehow when I launched Firefox, it wasn't honoring my Xfce 
configuration that lowers a window when I middle-click on the title bar.


The solution took a LOT of digging. I asked in #xfce on Libera Chat IRC, 
and the folks there (shout out to NoobAlice) had me check all my Xfce 
settings, and they were right. Then she had be right click on the menu 
bar for Firefox, choose "Customize Toolbar," and check the box on the 
lower left that says "Title Bar."


Once I did that, it exposed the title bar in Xfce, and middle click 
worked as expected.


I'm posting it to the list so that, next time I forget about this trick, 
I can Google it. :-D


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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
If you have two gigabit interfaces and a managed switch, you can also 
team the interfaces for double the bandwidth.  Still much cheaper than 
going to 10Gb.


Sadly, right now I just have an unmanaged switch. I would either have to 
upgrade to a new switch or buy a new 10Gb switch.


If I buy a new switch, I may as well spend a little more for MUCH higher 
throughput.


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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 10:39, Roger Heflin wrote:

yes, that would give way more speed if those desktops need that kind of speed.


"Need" is relative. ;-) But I use one of the servers as a hypervisor for 
testing stuff, and the other is a file server. I'm mostly thinking about 
the file server, that's where I export /home and then mount it on my 
desktop. I'd like that to be faster.



I have had bad enough luck with consumer grade SATA/SAS cards and nic
cards that the used enterprise grade of either is a lot more likely to
work reliably.


I generally do the same thing, my enterprise gear is all used and I have 
a vendor in Houston I have had really good luck with (ServerMonkey).



I won't touch a consumer brand of that sort of stuff (unless it comes
with the MB) simply because when I need a card I can get a used
enterprise for about the same price and know that it will work.


I generally agree, but I was leaning towards consumer grade this time 
primarily for noise reasons. Enterprise class gear is just noisy as 
heck, and I am trying to keep the noise levels down in my home office. 
It's already pretty loud with the Proliants. Enterprise class switches 
with SFP+ modules are usually loud as heck, and expensive - you have to 
buy the SFP+ modules in addition to the switches. That adds up pretty 
quick for a home lab. Gotta keep the bride happy, you know?


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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 10:19, Roger Heflin wrote:

And also given your hw, limit your interrupt count to the number of
cores on a single socket, the interrupts will typically only happen on
the local socket the given pci bus is attached to, and you would need
to determine if different cards have their PCI buses connected to
different sockets.


Will do, thanks.


Which model of proliant is that?   Note I have used/debugged/optimized
dl360/dl380/dl560/dl580/dl980 gen7/8/9/10/11(testing).


Currently Gen 8 DL380 with 12 3.5" disks. I'm about to upgrade to a 
couple of Gen 9 servers and probably retire/sell the Gen 8s.


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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 10:14, Roger Heflin wrote:

Given that hardware, buy something like this instead.

used, but better class of card.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-e10g42bt/p/N82E16833106075?Description=10gbit%20card_re=10gbit_card-_-33-106-075-_-Product=true

or something similar from the used sellers.  There seem to be a decent
variety of cards under $100.

Manufacturers that are good are HPE/DELL/Intel/Broadcom/IBM/Lenovo.
But you do need to do a bit of research on the given cards to see what
the real chipset is.  Avoid Emulex/Be2net variants they have "issues".
Intel/Broadcom/Mellanox based cards are good.


This is awesome, thank you very much! I'm still trying to get up to 
speed on 10G networking, I genuinely appreciate this advice.


With that two port card, I could get three and just run direct cables 
from my desktop to the servers, then a cable between the servers. No 
switch required, and it would be fast as heck.


Thanks!
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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 10:03, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron  said:

Do you just use a copper SFP+ module like
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164322691847 in the Microtik? I'd love to
know what you use.


I used QFPTEK modules from Amazon, but any should do.  The Mikrotik does
run a little hot with them (it's passively cooled), but I have it
vertically mounted and it seems fine.


I was leaning towards this switch: 
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SX105-Wall-Mount-Protection-Auto-Negotiation/dp/B09CYNHL4S.
It looks super simple, it already has the copper interfaces so I
don't need SFP+ modules.


I went with the Mikrotik because I wanted a managed switch so I could
have VLANs.


My preference is to use plain old cat7 ethernet, like 10 foot cables
or so: 
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Gigabit-Ethernet-Internet/dp/B07ZTQY9DD/


I went with some CableCreation "ultra thin" cat6A cables (makes for
easier cable routing and bundling).



This is gold, thank you so much! I've only used InfiniBand in my home 
network (got some really cheap 10G IB stuff) and it was really fast. I 
loved it. But I sold that stuff when I changed jobs, and I have a bad 
itch to get back to faster, but more modern networking.


Many thanks for your advice!

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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 09:41, Roger Heflin wrote:

I have work experience with Intel 10Gbit, Older Emulex 10GB (be[23]net
driver), current Broadcom 10/25G and Mellanox 10/25G.

Note that for it to be useful you*MUST*  have multiple interrupts.
1Gbit interfaces used to hit a limit at around 50Mbit (the cpu was not
fast enough to do the required data moves on a single core to go much
faster).  Given the cpus are faster now the limit is probably up to
1Gbit/sec/interrupt.

I have had to set nic adaptors to use a layer-3 data -> interrupt so
that you can get higher rates (ethtool setting) only available on some
nic cards.

I have also had to set the interrupt number (ethtool setting), note
that it is rather pointless to have the interrupt count higher than
the number of real cores.  And likely you want the interrupt count for
the disk controllers being used + the nic interrupts <= the number of
cores.

At home I question the value of it.   You might even simply test your
nfs home setup and see if you can even get close to Gbit speeds,
unless you have a newer machine and a good underlying disk setup you
probably aren't going to get there.  And you also need a decent Gbit
card, but if you do not have a decent gbit card, you can buy a used
enterprise grade dual gbit card for around $25 (branded Dell or
branded HPE).

With enterprise grade hw and good disk and other parts one can hit
115-125MBytes/sec.

With a new machine at home and a 7-disk raid-6 setup with a good gbit
nic card I can get 115-125MB/sec when data is in cache, but not coming
directly off of disk, unless the disk is an ssd and reading large
files.  My prior machine could not hit that rate but was 10 year old
hw.

To use a 10Gbit interface you will have to have multiple machines
doing large file sequential io (assuming they are wireless or gbit
interfaces) at the same time.

I doubt you are going to gain enough (or possibly any) to make it
worth the cost or the trouble to get it working.

Install sar and configure it to sample at 1minute and sar -n DEV will
show you your network rates, if you aren't currently sustaining
115MByte/sec every so often then 10gbit is not going to do anything
for you.


My home office has a couple of HP Proliant servers with big (12 SAS 
drives) RAID arrays and dual CPU E5-2697 v2 processors with 24 cores 
each (48 cores total in the machine). I can sustain 1.6Gb/sec reads and 
writes, tested via dd with oflag=dsync and also with fio.


So with consumer grade NICs on the Proliants and my workstation 
(https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TX401-Ethernet-Supports-Including/dp/B08D71PVXG/), 
I suspect it will give me better performance than the 1Gb ethernet I'm 
currently using. Will it be as amazing as high end enterprise gear? Most 
likely not. Will it be better than 1Gb ethernet I'm currently using? I 
suspect so.


I appreciate the advice, I'll definitely play around with the settings 
to make sure I'm using enough cores.


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Re: Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 5/12/23 08:53, Chris Adams wrote:

I have a couple of these, one in my home server (which includes NFS) and
one in my primary desktop, connected through a Mikrotik CRS305 switch,
and the setup works fine.  I am using bridging on both systems (for
VMs), and that works fine as well.  Checking my interfaces, it looks
like LRO is already disabled (I'm guessing by the "atlantic" kernel
driver, as I haven't set any ethtool options).

I have experienced a couple of issues, both related to putting my
desktop to sleep when I'm not using it:

- Every once in a while, when I resume, the network is dead.  There's a
   kernel oops (that's kind of vague) and I have to reboot.  This isn't a
   huge problem, because it only seems to happen after a bunch of
   suspend/resume cycles, and I typically reboot for updates more often
   than it happens.

- I also run jumbo frames, and after a suspend/resume cycle, the MTU on
   the NIC resets to 1500 (while the bridge interface stays jumbo).  This
   breaks communication.  I don't know if the driver is expected to
   restore the MTU and isn't, but NetworkManager also doesn't seem to
   handle bridge+suspend/resume right; NICs show "connected (externally)"
   in nmcli after a suspend/resume, like NM loses management of them.
   I've just hacked around this by adding a dispatcher script to reset
   the MTU.


Do you just use a copper SFP+ module like 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164322691847 in the Microtik? I'd love to know 
what you use.


I was leaning towards this switch: 
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SX105-Wall-Mount-Protection-Auto-Negotiation/dp/B09CYNHL4S. 
It looks super simple, it already has the copper interfaces so I don't 
need SFP+ modules.


My preference is to use plain old cat7 ethernet, like 10 foot cables or 
so: 
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Gigabit-Ethernet-Internet/dp/B07ZTQY9DD/


Thomas
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Experience with 10Gb ethernet adapters?

[Thomas Cameron]

Howdy, all -

I use an NFS server export to mount my /home directory on my desktop. 
I've got the itch to go to 10Gb ethernet, but I am reading that the 
tp-link tx401 has a problem with bridging, and I use bridging for KVM 
virtual machines on my desktop. I *think* that you can just disable 
using the command "ethtool -K  lro off," but I wondered if anyone 
had any experience with NICs that work with bridging out of the box.


Anyone got any experience with 10Gb ethernet cards? Good? Bad? Hassles?

Thomas
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DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

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All -

I've tested my DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records against multiple test sites, 
and it's set up correctly. I've sent email from my server to GMail, read 
the headers, and all tests pass.


The problem is, as far as I can tell, EVERY server that sends mail to 
mailing lists causes me to get a barrage of warnings from receivers' 
email servers saying that, since the email came from the list server, 
the message failed because it's not from MY email server. It's maddening.


What do folks who manage email servers do about this? I'm seriously 
starting to think that using these tools introduce darned near as many 
problems as they "solve." Talk me off the ledge?


I am working through maybe tuning my settings, using the DMARCLY wizard. 
I see that I am probably setting some things too strict, especially 
around DMARC, but... Dang, this is frustrating.


Thomas
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Re: How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

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I'd love to! I'll ping you off-list. I use Fedora servers in my home 
lab, using file and print services (NFS and Samba for home directories) 
on one HPE Proliant server, a firewall behind my cable modem, 
virtualization on an HPE Proliant hypervisor with 384GB memory, mail 
services in the cloud using Fedora and Sendmail (yeah, I'm old) on 
Fedora instances on the west coast and the east coast at AWS, and so on. 
I even did oVirt and Katello in my home lab for a long time, although I 
consolidated and don't do that any more.


I would love to write articles for Fedora!

Thomas

On 2/27/23 00:45, Peter Boy wrote:



Am 25.02.2023 um 16:19 schrieb Thomas Cameron via users 
:

Honestly, this was just me nerding out and having fun, and I wanted to share it 
in case anyone else wanted to do the same.


Thats perfectly OK. That's what FOSS is for - among other things.

I would be happy if you would contribute your experiences to our Fedora Server 
documentation [1]. I myself am working on an article in which I have collected 
my experiences in creating Fedora Server Edition KVM [2]. It would be great and 
inspirational to have another tutorial on another case, here then Amazon Cloud.

You don't need to concern yourself with the details of page creation using 
AsciiDoc, etc. A simple text file would be fine. The transfer could be done by 
someone from the WG. The effort is then kept within limits.

And by the way: We would be very happy if you would contribute your further 
experiences with Fedora Server Edition or your ideas for improvement. :-)


[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/

[2] 
https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/tutorials/imagefactory/






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Re: How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

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On 2/25/23 06:21, Peter Boy wrote:



Am 25.02.2023 um 00:23 schrieb Thomas Cameron via users 
:

Hey, all! I work for AWS, and I put together a quick HOWTO on setting up a 
Fedora 37 instance using KVM, and then converting it to a format that can be 
used to create a new EC2 instance on AWS. Note that this is a personal project, 
is not endorsed by AWS, and was not produced by AWS. It’s just me.

https://camerontech.com/fedora-aws/

I am not a web guy, I just did a super basic HTML page using Seahorse. It’s 
literally something I threw together, and I am sure I missed some things, but I 
hope that it is helpful for anyone who wants to build their own image. I know 
there are a bunch of images already out there in the community, but I wanted to 
document how to do it for yourself.

I hope you find it helpful!

The first questions that comes into my mind: why not use cloud image for 
Amazon? It’s not Fedora Server, but something alike. But that is your kickstart 
as well. Or use the generic cloud image, which includes cloud-init, and adjust 
that?

And just in case you whish to provide a (real) Fedora Server, why don’t you use 
the provided KVM image and add some specifics apps using e.g. guestfish on the 
image (as described in the Fedora Server documentation)? Or use the kickstart 
from Fedora repository and add some specific apps to it?

I’m just curious, no criticism. I created the KVM image and know about the 
difficulties and peculiarities using kickstart and imagefactory.


Thanks for the response! I could have, and probably should have, used 
Amazon EC2 Image Builder (https://aws.amazon.com/image-builder/), but I 
wanted to understand all the steps myself. And I specifically wanted the 
Fedora server build. This was mostly a thought exercise/learning 
experience thing, to be honest. I hoped that it would be helpful in case 
anyone else wanted to understand all the steps. Pure learning exercise.


I had to look all over the web to find the right steps to build my own 
image and make it work. There were some things I had to find on Red 
Hat's web site, other things I needed to figure out from the AWS web 
site, and some trial and error things because there was stuff that 
weren't clearly documented or intuitive/obvious (like the recent change 
that S3 buckets require encryption).


Honestly, this was just me nerding out and having fun, and I wanted to 
share it in case anyone else wanted to do the same.


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Take care!
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How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

[Thomas Cameron via users]

Hey, all! I work for AWS, and I put together a quick HOWTO on setting up 
a Fedora 37 instance using KVM, and then converting it to a format that 
can be used to create a new EC2 instance on AWS. Note that this is a 
personal project, is not endorsed by AWS, and was not produced by AWS. 
It’s just me.


https://camerontech.com/fedora-aws/

I am not a web guy, I just did a super basic HTML page using Seahorse. 
It’s literally something I threw together, and I am sure I missed some 
things, but I hope that it is helpful for anyone who wants to build 
their own image. I know there are a bunch of images already out there in 
the community, but I wanted to document how to do it for yourself.


I hope you find it helpful!

--
Thomas
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Weird multiple display issue

[Thomas Cameron via users]

Howdy -

I have a multi monitor machine. The displays are set up like this:

+ + +
+

So I have three large monitors and a smaller tablet below the far right 
monitor.


The weird thing is, it seems like the desktop THINKS my screen looks 
like this:


+ + +
+ + +

So what happens is, when I do something like use a background image 
across multiple monitors, it stretches it so that half the image shows 
up on my top three monitors, and about a third of the bottom of the 
image shows up on my small monitor down to the right.


Also, and this is the real problem, when I choose to rearrange my 
desktop icons, it distributes them across the left side of my left 
monitor and down across the nonexistent left bottom screen it seems to 
think is there. So my desktop icons disappear. About half of them appear 
to be placed under the leftmost monitor, but there's no monitor under 
that top monitor.


I've posted pix of what my desktop looks like, and what I see when I 
capture a screenshot. https://imgur.com/a/gUBsgML


In the screenshot, I have Chrome maximized on all four physical screens. 
As you can see from the screenshot, there is empty virtual desktop space 
below the left and center physical screens. You can see that my desktop 
icons are in that empty space. But I can't see them on the physical screens.


Anyone know how to fix this so that my desktop icons don't disappear off 
the bottom of my screen?


Thanks!
Thomas
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Re: cron.weekly

[Thomas Cameron via users]

You can do this as root or via sudo:

cd /tmp
nohup /etc/cron.weekly/myfile &

You can then close the window. As I understand it, nohup detaches the process 
from the controlling terminal. See https://phoenixnap.com/kb/linux-nohup for 
details.

Thomas


On 1/20/23 16:24, Patrick Dupre wrote:

OK,

Thank, but I wanted to run it in background, and be able to close the windows.


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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:30 PM
From: "Thomas Cameron via users" 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: "Thomas Cameron" 
Subject: Re: cron.weekly

On 1/20/23 14:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I would like to run cron.weekly from a line command immediately.
How can I do it ?

If the script is /etc/cron.weekly/myfile, then just run

/etc/cron.daily/myfile

as root or via sudo.

Thomas
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Re: cron.weekly

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 1/20/23 14:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I would like to run cron.weekly from a line command immediately.
How can I do it ?


If the script is /etc/cron.weekly/myfile, then just run

/etc/cron.daily/myfile

as root or via sudo.

Thomas
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Re: No sound after update

[Thomas Cameron via users]

And if this is a kernel issue, how is it that it didn't take a kernel
update to cause it?  It was working before the update with the same
kernel, why would it stop?  Strange.


It may have been a perfect storm of e.g. a previous kernel upgrade which 
introduced a condition that a later audio or firmware upgrade triggered.


There are a BUNCH of things which can affect audio. A weird combo could 
have brought some odd issue that caused the problem. It looks like the 
kernel team is aware of the issue, and I expect it either has been, or 
will soon be fixed, according to "ja" who posted on this thread.


If not, please file bugzilla reports at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/. 
See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/howto-file-a-bug/ 
for details.


Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/12/22 16:28, Grumpey wrote:

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 11:22 AM Thomas Cameron via users
 wrote:


I have. It doesn't stick between reboots.


Are you using wireplumber?
I referenced https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/WirePlumber#Disable_a_device/node
when I disabled my camera microphone.


Thank you very much, that worked!

Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/12/22 16:28, Grumpey wrote:

Are you using wireplumber?
I referencedhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/title/WirePlumber#Disable_a_device/node
when I disabled my camera microphone.


I think so:

[thomas.cameron@case Desktop]$ ps axfw | grep plumb
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

I have. It doesn't stick between reboots.

On 9/12/22 10:07, Alex Gurenko wrote:

Why don't you just disable microphones on Brio all together?

---
Best regards, Alex


--- Original Message ---
On Monday, September 12th, 2022 at 16:50, Thomas Cameron via users 
 wrote:



On 9/9/22 14:56, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:


I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard.
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used.
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is
selected again. This is driving me nuts!

What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the
main/only one used?

I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using
pavucontrol.

If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.


Anyone got any insight? Is there a way to tell Fedora 36 a permanent way
to stop using my crappy Brio mic?

Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/9/22 14:56, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard. 
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually 
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used. 
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me 
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged 
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default 
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is 
selected again. This is driving me nuts!


What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the 
main/only one used?


I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using 
pavucontrol.


If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.
Anyone got any insight? Is there a way to tell Fedora 36 a permanent way 
to stop using my crappy Brio mic?


Thomas
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Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard. 
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually 
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used. 
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me 
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged 
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default 
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is 
selected again. This is driving me nuts!


What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the 
main/only one used?


I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using 
pavucontrol.


If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.

Thanks!
Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/2/22 16:56, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 9/2/22 14:11, Felix Miata wrote:
It doesn't have to use only Radeon drivers. Try removing the 
ATI/Radeon Xorg
driver rpm (xorg-x11-drv-ati). That will cause it to fallback to the 
newer
technology, upstream default, "modesetting" DIX display driver, along 
with the

radeon kernel driver, and I think r600 Mesa DRI driver.


Trying that now.  Results seem positive thus far.


I'm super curious if that weird "outline only window" thing pops up 
again. I've noticed it across multiple distros and video cards, never 
heard anyone else have it.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

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On 9/2/22 15:05, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 9/2/22 13:46, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

Hey, Ian! Good to see you, hope you're well!


Same here!  (IIRC, you were the person who recommended the FirePro V4900
to me back in the day.)
I think that's right! I loved mine, and it lasted for a LONG time. Yours 
has lasted longer, though! 
Are you using DVI monitors? The RX550 will do what you need, but the 
WX 2100, 3100, or 3200 will all do three or more DisplayPort monitors 
if you're using DisplayPort, and use native drivers.


The 2 1920x1200 displays have DVI and DisplayPort inputs (no HDMI).  The
2K display has DVI, DisplayPort, and HDMI, but the HDMI input only
supports an older standard (1.4?), and it doesn't seem to work well at
2560x1440, 60Hz.

If I purchased something like this[1], I would use the DisplayPort
output for the 2K display, the DVI output for one of the 1920x1220
displays, and the HDMI output (with either a dongle or an HDMI-DVI
cable) for the other 1920x1200 display.

This would allow me to use at least 2 of my existing cables.  (If you
recall, my case is positioned a fair distance away from my displays, so
cables can be somewhat expensive.)

[1] 
https://www.amazon.com/RX-550-Computer-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B08VHWFWSD/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2R1Q7GZ9GKK12=maxsun+amd+radeon+rx+550+4gb=1662148616=maxsun+amd+rade%2Caps%2C77=8-3


I do remember! Yeah, your idea makes more sense. And that card is priced 
really well! Hard to go wrong with an AMD card. As mentioned on another 
response, the native drivers are pretty stellar. I really regret having 
bought the NVidia card I have now, it's something of a pain to keep up 
with the drivers. The RPM Fusion akmod drivers have been very, very 
solid, though, so it's bearable. Next big system I build will absolutely 
use an AMD video card. NVidia kinda sucks with Linux.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

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On 9/2/22 11:44, Ian Pilcher wrote:

[1] The glitch takes the form of the contents of new windows not being
    shown, only the frame.  It only seems to happen with Gtk apps,
    primarily Thunderbird.  I've tried futzing around with the Xorg
    acceleration settings, and I've been able to reduce but not
    eliminate the problem.


I've been seeing some weird X glitches similar to this a lot lately, 
both on a corporate laptop that runs Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS with Intel video 
and also a Fedora 36 workstation running with NVidia drivers with a 
Geforce RTX 2080 Super. Same thing. Click on a Thunderbird message and I 
just see the outline of the message until I click on it or move the 
window a little.


I am not sure the issue you are seeing is 100% related to the video card 
or old driver. It's worse on the Ubuntu/Intel machine but I definitely 
also see it on the Fedora/NVidia machine with Thunderbird.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/2/22 11:44, Ian Pilcher wrote:

I'm currently using an old ATI FirePro V4900 to run my 3 displays -
1x 2K and 2x 1920x1200.  I've been seeing glitches in some Gtk
applications for a while now (running on Plasma X11), and I'm getting
pretty tired of them.[1]  This card uses the old radeon driver, so I'm
thinking that it might be time to bite the bullet and move to something
a bit more modern.

I do not do any gaming.  I simply want to be able to run my preferred
desktop (Plasma) with compositing and a few effects turned on.

NVIDIA is out, because of the "just works" requirement, so I'm looking
at AMD options.  Is the RX550 a good choice for my use case?

Thanks!

[1] The glitch takes the form of the contents of new windows not being
    shown, only the frame.  It only seems to happen with Gtk apps,
    primarily Thunderbird.  I've tried futzing around with the Xorg
    acceleration settings, and I've been able to reduce but not
    eliminate the problem.


Hey, Ian! Good to see you, hope you're well!

Are you using DVI monitors? The RX550 will do what you need, but the WX 
2100, 3100, or 3200 will all do three or more DisplayPort monitors if 
you're using DisplayPort, and use native drivers.


Thomas
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Re: strange ip address reported by nftables

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On 8/19/22 15:33, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

This morning, logwatch reported this in the iptables section:

Logged 99 packets on interface enp3s0
.
From 10.91.96.218 - 6 packets to udp(54366)

How, this IP address could be logged on my private network (which is 
192.168.1.0)?


I miss something

Thank you for clarification.

I recently read about some wifi routers which support WPA and can 
actually be connected to by random devices.


Here's an article about it. I am not positive that's what happened here, 
but it could be some random device that connected to your WPA enabled 
wifi device. It might have had that weird RFC 1918 address 
(10.91.96.218) and it spilled into your network.


https://appuals.com/fix-unknown-strange-devices-showing-network/

Thomas
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Re: WebEx client no longer works on Fedora 36

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On 7/29/22 10:29, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Dear friends,

Does anyone still have the official Cisco WebEx linux client  work with Fedora 
36? It used to  work fine a month or so ago, but has not worked for me for the 
last two weeks (at least). Specifically, what happens is that the client opens 
up all right, but then when I either start or join meeting, the window tries to 
start and then everything comes crashing down.

I am not sure what the problem is, and there are no error messages at
  all, but I was wondering if anyone had
  similar experiences and, more importantly, knew how to fix this
  issue. I am updated to the latest July version of WebEx and F36 (but
  for emacs, but that is not relevant).

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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WebEx stopped supporting the WebEx client for Fedora some time ago. I 
just use the web browser plugin and it works just fine.


https://help.webex.com/en-us/article/9vstcdb/Webex-App-for-Linux
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qm7d1s/webex_on_fedora_35_no_longer_working/

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Re: How do I ask dnf for the current revision of Wine, when ...

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On 7/1/22 19:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


I am afraid to take the exclusion out as if Wine
gets accidentally upgrade to 7.0 and I have
no downgrade, it will take my business down. 


Totally fair point. Not trying to tell you how to run your system. I was 
just suggesting *a* way that might work. Sorry if I came across bossy.


Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: How do I ask dnf for the current revision of Wine, when ...

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/1/22 17:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Due to this bug:

   https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52586

I have Wine updates excluded from /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.



Take the exclusion out. Run "yum list wine*" and see if the update has 
made it out. I just checked on my F36 box, and it's still at 7.10, which 
I think has the bug in it.


You can add the exclusion back into dnf.conf if you like. Or, you can 
run dnf like this to exclude it:


dnf --exclude=wine* update

or something similar.

I may not be understanding what you're asking, sorry if I'm off base.

Thomas
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Re: Anyone use spf and dmarc and dkim?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 6/18/22 02:20, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

  > What is the misconfiguration that you are saying I have?

Using "-all" or "~all" in your SPF configuration.  They are saying
"reject mail whose last hop source IP isn't explicitly authorized",
with "~all" being less strict but any receiver is within their rights
to reject (for example, you probably want your bank and your customers
to do so, right?)  If you use "?all" (or no "all" at all), you're
saying "you can trust mail direct from my server to be me, but
sometimes I send indirect mail, so use your best judgment if it's not
direct from my server."


OK, I've changed the spf to ?all and we'll see if that works.

Thanks.

--
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Re: Anyone use spf and dmarc and dkim?

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On 6/17/22 11:50, Thomas Cameron wrote:

On 6/17/22 11:16, Thomas Cameron wrote:
Yeah, I changed it to soft fail (~all) instead of -all before. Also, 
to be clear, I only added the list server address for testing 
purposes. I wouldn't leave it that way. I was just trying to figure 
out why I was getting errors and how I could fix them.


But my point is, setting up spf works as expected. I've verified it 
via my emails to known correctly configured mail servers like GMail. 
What I don't understand is why, when it is apparently set up 
correctly, are there mail servers which throw errors when I send 
email through a mailing list. Is it a misconfiguration of the mailing 
list? Is it a misconfiguration of the receivers?


I mean, setting up spf isn't rocket science. There are tons of 
tutorials, and I am reasonably certain it's set up correctly since my 
emails come through with PASS ratings when I check them via e.g. 
GMail. Why are they failing when I send them through an email list 
server? What is the misconfiguration that you are saying I have?


And here's what I get every time I post to this list. It's a small 
handful of mail servers that send me what appears to be incorrect 
errors because the ip address of the Fedora mail server is different 
from my mail server. I think it's stale DNS data now, since I've 
changed the TXT record.


https://imgur.com/a/AdQ9Y18

Hopefully I've nailed it down. I've stripped some weird/extraneous stuff 
out of the TXT entries in DNS and gone to the bare minimum. I'll see if 
I get bounces when I send this.


Thomas
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Re: What package do I need to install for my Nvidia card

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On 6/17/22 14:16, Anil F Duggirala wrote:

So now I have noticed at boot time I am getting a message about "NVIDIA
kernel module missing, falling back to Nouveau".
I think I have Secure Boot enabled, could this be why it didn't work?
I have now followed the instructions in:
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Secure%20Boot
And I think I went through the whole process of importing the key (Im
not sure I did everything right).
If I have now imported the key correctly, do I need to reinstall those
packages to get the driver to work?
What do I need to do now to get the driver to load?

thanks for your help,


I don't really know, I didn't have to mess with secure boot on my systems.

Anyone?

Thomas
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