Re: OSM??
On Thu, 23 May 2019 16:15:57 -0700, Clifford Snow wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM Beartooth wrote: [snipperoo] > Maybe you would be > interested in QGIS. Open Source and cross platform. You can bring in > data for OSM and other sources, create maps, and analyze data all with > QGIS. I use href="https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dani/qgis/;>https:// copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dani/qgis/ repository > which has the latest version. you will need python3 and GDAL. There is a > bit of a learning curve with any geospatial system, but QGIS has > responsive mailing list and there are user groups around the > world. I tried "dnf install qgis". Lo! and behold! Package qgis-3.4.6-1.fc30.x86_64 is already installed. Meseems I have a new toy. Many, many thanks! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2019 16:16:23 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 May 2019 17:26:03 - (UTC) > > Beartooth wrote: > > > I've been mousing around like mad, and I still find an odd thing > that I've always found before. OSM seems to be all about compiling data, > rather than making actual maps, let alone using them. Also, btw, I still > see no trace of anything like topographic data. > OSM doesn't do topographic data > > That's a fine thing to do, and those who do it have a right to > enthuse intensely; they're making discoveries and solving problems. > > However, what I'm really trying to do is make certain personal > maps, to scale, marked with things I choose, whose spatial interrelations > I want to study. For me, that study and what I can learn from it are the > whole point. > Maybe you would be interested in QGIS. Open Source and cross platform. You can bring in data for OSM and other sources, create maps, and analyze data all with QGIS. I use https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dani/qgis/ repository which has the latest version. you will need python3 and GDAL. There is a bit of a learning curve with any geospatial system, but QGIS has responsive mailing list and there are user groups around the world. Best, Clifford @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
On Tue, 21 May 2019 16:16:23 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2019 17:26:03 - (UTC) > Beartooth wrote: > >> but with a program so vast ... > > don't think so. Vast data but only a browser is needed unless you want > some special functions. I'm currently on a ubuntu system and here > apt-cache search openstreetmap gives 70 hits. No doubt dnf will do > something similar. Hmmm I don't know if dnf has anything like apt-cache, but I tried plain "dnf search openstreetmap" and got only 17 hits. This is encouraging. Many thanks! I've been mousing around like mad, and I still find an odd thing that I've always found before. OSM seems to be all about compiling data, rather than making actual maps, let alone using them. Also, btw, I still see no trace of anything like topographic data. That's a fine thing to do, and those who do it have a right to enthuse intensely; they're making discoveries and solving problems. However, what I'm really trying to do is make certain personal maps, to scale, marked with things I choose, whose spatial interrelations I want to study. For me, that study and what I can learn from it are the whole point. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree? Ought I rather to have yet another go at getting Wine a/o Crossover Office somehow to enable my GPSs and some commercial or USGS software to talk to each other? I'm beginning to doubt I'll live long enough -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
On Tue, 21 May 2019 13:47:27 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > Would any of these work for you? > > sudo dnf search OpenStreetMap Aha. I got this: # dnf search OpenStreetMap Last metadata expiration check: 0:46:33 ago on Wed 22 May 2019 01:50:49 PM EDT. === Summary Matched: OpenStreetMap merkaartor.x86_64 : Qt-Based OpenStreetMap editor routino.x86_64 : Router for OpenStreetMap Data josm.noarch : An editor for OpenStreetMap (OSM) routino-libs.i686 : Routing library for OpenStreetMap Data routino-libs.x86_64 : Routing library for OpenStreetMap Data kosmtik.noarch : Make maps with OpenStreetMap and Mapnik osmctools.x86_64 : Tools to manipulate OpenStreetMap files osmpbf-java.noarch : Java OpenStreetMap PBF file format library osm-gps-map.i686 : Gtk+ widget for displaying OpenStreetMap tiles osm-gps-map.x86_64 : Gtk+ widget for displaying OpenStreetMap tiles texlive-getmap.noarch : Download OpenStreetMap maps for use in documents osmpbf.i686 : C library to read and write OpenStreetMap PBF files osmpbf.x86_64 : C library to read and write OpenStreetMap PBF files osmium-tool.x86_64 : Command line tool for working with OpenStreetMap data osm2pgsql.x86_64 : Imports map data from OpenStreetMap to a PostgreSQL database I apologize for the formatting. Another poster suggested : Josm is packaged in Fedora so dnf install josm is enough. So I also did that, getting = Installed: josm-0-0.93.15031svn.fc30.noarch java-1.8.0-openjdk- devel-1:1.8.0.212.b04-0.fc30.x86_64 apache-commons- codec-1.11-3.module_f28+3939+dc18cd75.noarch apache-commons- logging-1.2-13.module_f28+3939+dc18cd75.noarch ant-1.10.5-3.module_f28+4207+d722d224.noarch ant- lib-1.10.5-3.module_f28+4207+d722d224.noarch java-1.8.0-openjdk- openjfx-1:1.8.0.212.b04-0.fc30.x86_64 apache-commons- compress-1.18-4.fc30.noarch apache-commons-jcs- core-2.2-3.fc30.noarch jsonp-1.0.4-9.fc30.noarch metadata- extractor2-2.10.1-5.fc30.noarch openjfx-8.0.202-5.b07.fc30.x86_64 signpost- core-1.2.1.2-16.fc29.noarch svgsalamander-1.1.2-1.fc30.noarch xmpcore-5.1.2-11.fc30.noarch Complete! === Again, I apologize for the formatting. A thousand thanks to all who replied! Confession time: I mean my .sig in all earnestness. I've been trying to follow a couple of OSM lists on Gmane for at least two or three years. I hardly ever find anything not over my head. There WAS a users' list for a while, but it's long dead. Twenty-odd years ago, I had both hard- and software (especially from Garmin, DeLorme, and Maptech) with which I was able to study the terrain here in town and out in the woods around, and routes from one point to another, to scale -- without having to first learn cartography, CS, nor EE. I learned to use those tools BY using them, and discovered relationships among places I thought I knew. The game trails in the woods, for instance, showed an awareness of the people trails a lot sharper than I had realized. (That makes a lot of sense AFTER you know it!) The fly in the ointment, of course, was having to tolerate an OS I detested. I've been trying to do the like on Linux ever since. I can run the software under Wine, but I've never yet managed to get it and my GPSs to talk to one another. What are the chances now? Are these tools going to be self- explanatory enough? Has that time come? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject
Re: OSM??
On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 14:52 -0700, Clifford Snow wrote: > What exactly are you trying to accomplish? I've never heard of an > .iso. > There is a java based editor, JOSM. I believe their might be a repo > for it, > but I find just downloading the new JAR file every once in a while > works > satisfactorily. Josm is packaged in Fedora so dnf install josm is enough. > The OSM database, we call the plant, is quite large. It needs to be > downloaded from planet.openstreetmap.org. GeoFribrik at > download.geofabrik.de has extracts for parts of the world. And HOTOSM > has > an export tool, https://export.hotosm.org/en/v3/, to grab areas for > download. > > If you want to duplicate the website, look on github. > > Gnome does have a extension with an OSM map which I find out of date > so I > don't use it. > > Best, > Clifford AKA Glassman on OSM > > > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:26 AM Beartooth > wrote: > > > Can dnf get me OSM? I tried osm, OSM, and openstreetmap. I > > don't > > doubt there's some sort of .iso on their own site, but with a > > program so > > vast ... > > > > -- > > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > > ___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Jakub Jelen Senior Software Engineer Security Technologies Red Hat, Inc. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
On Tue, 21 May 2019 17:26:03 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > but with a program so > vast ... don't think so. Vast data but only a browser is needed unless you want some special functions. I'm currently on a ubuntu system and here apt-cache search openstreetmap gives 70 hits. No doubt dnf will do something similar. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. - Ursula Le Guin ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
What exactly are you trying to accomplish? I've never heard of an .iso. There is a java based editor, JOSM. I believe their might be a repo for it, but I find just downloading the new JAR file every once in a while works satisfactorily. The OSM database, we call the plant, is quite large. It needs to be downloaded from planet.openstreetmap.org. GeoFribrik at download.geofabrik.de has extracts for parts of the world. And HOTOSM has an export tool, https://export.hotosm.org/en/v3/, to grab areas for download. If you want to duplicate the website, look on github. Gnome does have a extension with an OSM map which I find out of date so I don't use it. Best, Clifford AKA Glassman on OSM On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:26 AM Beartooth wrote: > > Can dnf get me OSM? I tried osm, OSM, and openstreetmap. I don't > doubt there's some sort of .iso on their own site, but with a program so > vast ... > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM??
Would any of these work for you? sudo dnf search OpenStreetMap On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:26 PM Beartooth wrote: > > Can dnf get me OSM? I tried osm, OSM, and openstreetmap. I don't > doubt there's some sort of .iso on their own site, but with a program so > vast ... > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
OSM??
Can dnf get me OSM? I tried osm, OSM, and openstreetmap. I don't doubt there's some sort of .iso on their own site, but with a program so vast ... -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM & GPS??
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:48 AM Beartooth wrote: > On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 14:59:57 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: > > > I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr > > repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 > > which is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll > > want to get some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. > > Once the plugin is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open > > settings. Under More service, select Get contributed pack. It will load > > in more than a dozen backgrounds you can use. > > What does QuickMapServices plug into? Dnf installed QGIS, and > also mapnik, which I take to be relevant; but having had my share of > dependency hell back in the day, I'm reluctant to update anything except > via dnf. Is that going to make trouble? > It shouldn't. Plugins are fetched and I believe stored in your home directory under ~/.local/share/QGIS/QGIS3 > > There may be trouble already: > > $ qgis & > [1] 12521 > [btth@localhost ~]$ Warning: loading of qgis translation failed [/usr/ > share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US] > Warning: loading of qt translation failed [/usr/share/qt4/translations/ > qt_en_US] > Warning: Object::connect: No such signal > QgsMergedBookmarksTableModelselectItem( > const > QModelIndex ) > Warning: Object::connect: (receiver name: 'QgsBookmarksBase') > Warning: QCss::Parser - Failed to load file "/style.qss" > QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No > such file or directory > Warning: QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/btth/.qgis2// > project_templates > loaded the Generic plugin > Warning: QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QgsPanelWidgetStack > "mWidgetStack", which already has a layout > Its possibly a conflict with python installations. I've been down that road. Now when I install from pip/pip3 I use the --user option. > > > As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least > > consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks > > to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once > > you've added your traces, please add your trail to OSM. > > I obviously need to learn the difference between a trail and a > trace. Maybe it's in the matter I read yesterday; absent-mindedness, > alas!, gets worse with age. > Use the gpx trace along with imagery to add the trail in OSM. Once the trace is uploaded, it can be used as a background to add a line feature to OSM. Using the browser based editor, iD, select the line feature to add your trail. Tag the line as highway=path + a name= if its named. A gpx trace from a consumer grade device can easily be off by 3 meters - if not more. By using imagery along with the gpx the trail can easily be more accurate. Good luck, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM & GPS??
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 14:59:57 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: > I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr > repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 > which is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll > want to get some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. > Once the plugin is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open > settings. Under More service, select Get contributed pack. It will load > in more than a dozen backgrounds you can use. What does QuickMapServices plug into? Dnf installed QGIS, and also mapnik, which I take to be relevant; but having had my share of dependency hell back in the day, I'm reluctant to update anything except via dnf. Is that going to make trouble? There may be trouble already: $ qgis & [1] 12521 [btth@localhost ~]$ Warning: loading of qgis translation failed [/usr/ share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US] Warning: loading of qt translation failed [/usr/share/qt4/translations/ qt_en_US] Warning: Object::connect: No such signal QgsMergedBookmarksTableModelselectItem( const QModelIndex ) Warning: Object::connect: (receiver name: 'QgsBookmarksBase') Warning: QCss::Parser - Failed to load file "/style.qss" QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory Warning: QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/btth/.qgis2// project_templates loaded the Generic plugin Warning: QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QgsPanelWidgetStack "mWidgetStack", which already has a layout > As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least > consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks > to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once > you've added your traces, please add your trail to OSM. I obviously need to learn the difference between a trail and a trace. Maybe it's in the matter I read yesterday; absent-mindedness, alas!, gets worse with age. > When I'm speaking to a group about OSM, I'm usually asked about quality, > which is at least as good, if not better, than the others in large > cities. But for trails, OSM has the most trails of any map service. 99% > of those trails are added from gpx traces from people just like you. > > If you need help with OSM or QGIS, please contact me directly. First of all, thanks a million! That's vastly more than I had found, and very apposite. I've been beavering into it. Second, goodgoddlemityWOW! I hadn't the faintest notion of the incredible vastness of the project. I imagined something like downloading a few Coast & Geodetic Service Maps to a GPS a/o a computer -- as I did twenty-odd years ago. It's going to take me a while just to digest the idea of what is out there, and another while to learn the jargon. "Good Lord willin' an' the crick don't rise," as people say in these here parts, I'll be back with questions, lots of questions, and I hope more understanding of what there is to learn. Again, many, many thanks! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM & GPS??
copr_dani_qgis.repo [dani-qgis] name=Copr repo for qgis owned by dani baseurl= https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/dani/qgis/fedora-$releasever-$basearch/ type=rpm-md skip_if_unavailable=True gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/dani/qgis/pubkey.gpg repo_gpgcheck=0 enabled=1 enabled_metadata=1 On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 2:59 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr > repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 which > is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll want to get > some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. Once the plugin > is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open settings. Under More > service, select Get contributed pack. It will load in more than a dozen > backgrounds you can use. > > As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least > consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks > to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once you've > added your traces, please add your trail to OSM. > > When I'm speaking to a group about OSM, I'm usually asked about quality, > which is at least as good, if not better, than the others in large cities. > But for trails, OSM has the most trails of any map service. 99% of those > trails are added from gpx traces from people just like you. > > If you need help with OSM or QGIS, please contact me directly. > > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM & GPS??
I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 which is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll want to get some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. Once the plugin is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open settings. Under More service, select Get contributed pack. It will load in more than a dozen backgrounds you can use. As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once you've added your traces, please add your trail to OSM. When I'm speaking to a group about OSM, I'm usually asked about quality, which is at least as good, if not better, than the others in large cities. But for trails, OSM has the most trails of any map service. 99% of those trails are added from gpx traces from people just like you. If you need help with OSM or QGIS, please contact me directly. Best, Clifford On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:37 PM Beartooth wrote: > > I have a pair of old Garmin RINO 120 GPSs and a gadget to connect > either of them, one at a time, to my PC, currently running F 29. For > several years I could run topo map software under WINE -- unfree software > from any, or almost any, of half a dozen vendors -- but never get any of > them to talk to either GPS. Now there is Open Street Map, a.k.a. OSM, > which I THINK runs natively under Linux. > > I have studied forums and followed discussion lists (with Pan and > Gmane, since most of the content is obviously unrelated to my > questions). For years. > > It seems that everyone else is a mapMAKER, and takes mere USE for > granted. I only want to use it, and only out in the woods or the desert > or the tooley weeds -- all of which, it seems, OSM does map, despite its > name. I want to get maps to scale that show things of interest to me > only, or I hope only -- things like good lunch rocks, and nests, and > particular trees, all or nearly all off any trail. > > Unlike the OSM regulars, I have no advanced skills in > cartography, nor EE, nor CS. My skills and knowledge are in unrelated > areas. > > All this boils down to two questions. If I install OSM under > Fedora, will it accept, incorporate, and display off-road and off-trail > data from an old GPS, either with OSM's own data, or with things like USGS > topo maps? And if it will, can an ordinary mortal learn to use it? > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OSM & GPS??
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 21:37:01 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > I want to get maps to scale that show things of interest to me > only, or I hope only -- things like good lunch rocks, and nests, and > particular trees, all or nearly all off any trail. on pieces of paper? or in a device? or what? anyone can edit osm online with a free account, add points of interest, lots more This might be of interest: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide Dave ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
OSM & GPS??
I have a pair of old Garmin RINO 120 GPSs and a gadget to connect either of them, one at a time, to my PC, currently running F 29. For several years I could run topo map software under WINE -- unfree software from any, or almost any, of half a dozen vendors -- but never get any of them to talk to either GPS. Now there is Open Street Map, a.k.a. OSM, which I THINK runs natively under Linux. I have studied forums and followed discussion lists (with Pan and Gmane, since most of the content is obviously unrelated to my questions). For years. It seems that everyone else is a mapMAKER, and takes mere USE for granted. I only want to use it, and only out in the woods or the desert or the tooley weeds -- all of which, it seems, OSM does map, despite its name. I want to get maps to scale that show things of interest to me only, or I hope only -- things like good lunch rocks, and nests, and particular trees, all or nearly all off any trail. Unlike the OSM regulars, I have no advanced skills in cartography, nor EE, nor CS. My skills and knowledge are in unrelated areas. All this boils down to two questions. If I install OSM under Fedora, will it accept, incorporate, and display off-road and off-trail data from an old GPS, either with OSM's own data, or with things like USGS topo maps? And if it will, can an ordinary mortal learn to use it? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
