RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-16 Thread Sommers, Elizabeth
I run an instance for TDD.  I run another instance for build and release
(proprietary maven plugins).  I run another instance for delivery (more
maven plugins). I then run metrics (yet more plugins) on two instances.
All together I run 8 instances on 4 different machines.  Works well for
us and got us to CMMI level 4 while still working agile. 

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@Liz

Just out of curiosity, why would you want to be running multiple
instances?

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 I use Vulcan.  I like the fact that I can run multiple instances of it

 in the same tomcat.  It also does everything I need in a CI server.

  http://code.google.com/p/vulcan/

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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-16 Thread Dirk Olmes

Matthew Tordoff wrote:
Has anyone looked at Bamboo? 


We have used Bamboo for Mule for quite some time now. The setup seems to 
be easy (haven't done it) and the day to day operations are supported by 
the UI, too.


The only (big) boo that came up in the whole time we used it was that 
Bamboo 1.x used to store the entire build log in memory before writing 
it out in XML at the end of the build. This caused frequent OOMs with 
our build as it can generate quite a bit of log output.


This should be fixed with Bamboo 2.0 now.

For my private pet projects I use Hudson and while Bamboo has some 
concepts that Hudson doesn't have (e.g. Build queues) I like Hudson's 
approach of extensibility by plugins, e.g. I use the findbugs plugin as 
part of the build and have Hudson pick up the XML files and render neat 
timelines of bug increase/decrease etc.


-dirk

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RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Matthew Tordoff
Has anyone looked at Bamboo? 

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Subject: Re: continuous integration server

Hudson, without a doubt.
See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
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 Hi,

  Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

  Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)


  Thanks in advance,


  Peter


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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Gregory Kick
i know that spring uses bamboo for it's builds and i can't remember
the last time that i've actually seen it work...

http://build.springframework.org:8085/

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 Has anyone looked at Bamboo?



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  Subject: Re: continuous integration server

  Hudson, without a doubt.
  See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
  http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
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   Hi,
  
Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?
  
Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)
  
  
Thanks in advance,
  
  
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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Jared Blitzstein
Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both  
Continuum, Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird issues  
with Hudson that I couldn't work out (note: the author was willing to  
lend a hand but I didn't have enough time) and had to just move on,  
but it built 4 out of 5 of my projects no problem. I'm currently  
playing with Bamboo and it seems to fit well for my needs. I would  
recommend giving each of them a few hours of play time and coming up  
with your own opinion, but ultimately I'm going with Bamboo (Team City  
would be my next choice followed closely by a revisit to Hudson). I  
definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't looked at it  
in a while


On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:


Has anyone looked at Bamboo?

-Original Message-
From: Tom Huybrechts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2008 13:21
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: continuous integration server

Hudson, without a doubt.
See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)


Thanks in advance,


Peter



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RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Ben Lidgey

We are currently using CruiseControl. I know it is the Granddaddy of them all 
in some ways, but it seems flexible in the builds. I like the way with CC that 
the config can be controlled in SVN, so that if someone wanted to recreate the 
installation they can check it out from SVN and away they go. Also the 
config.xml can be monitored as a build itself.

The downsides I suppose are that the basic GUI isn't so flashy and while there 
is tool support for editing the config.xml I prefer to edit it by hand (perhaps 
that says more about me than CC...). I did write a plugin to integrate with our 
Nabaztag rabbit though which was easy to do. At the time (a year ago or so) I 
looked at Continuum and Hudson, and while both seemed quite good they were 
still in their infancy. Things may have changed so I would echo the comment 
from Jared about having a look around.

Ben

 -Original Message-
 From: Jared Blitzstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 April 2008 16:50
 To: Maven Users List
 Subject: Re: continuous integration server

 Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both
 Continuum, Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird
 issues with Hudson that I couldn't work out (note: the author
 was willing to lend a hand but I didn't have enough time) and
 had to just move on, but it built 4 out of 5 of my projects
 no problem. I'm currently playing with Bamboo and it seems to
 fit well for my needs. I would recommend giving each of them
 a few hours of play time and coming up with your own opinion,
 but ultimately I'm going with Bamboo (Team City would be my
 next choice followed closely by a revisit to Hudson). I
 definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't
 looked at it in a while

 On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:

  Has anyone looked at Bamboo?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Huybrechts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 April 2008 13:21
  To: Maven Users List
  Subject: Re: continuous integration server
 
  Hudson, without a doubt.
  See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
  http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/
 
  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?
 
  Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the
 making?! :-)
 
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
 
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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Adam
We had used Continuum and had no problems with it for the most part
until we came across a bug in our version (1.0.3) that we'd have had
to upgrade to 1.1.  We switched to Hudson at that point just based on
ease of installation and it has been great for the time we've been
using it so I say +1 for Hudson as well.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jared Blitzstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both Continuum,
 Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird issues with Hudson that I
 couldn't work out (note: the author was willing to lend a hand but I didn't
 have enough time) and had to just move on, but it built 4 out of 5 of my
 projects no problem. I'm currently playing with Bamboo and it seems to fit
 well for my needs. I would recommend giving each of them a few hours of play
 time and coming up with your own opinion, but ultimately I'm going with
 Bamboo (Team City would be my next choice followed closely by a revisit to
 Hudson). I definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't looked
 at it in a while



  On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:


  Has anyone looked at Bamboo?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Huybrechts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 April 2008 13:21
  To: Maven Users List
  Subject: Re: continuous integration server
 
  Hudson, without a doubt.
  See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
  http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/
 
  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?
  
   Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)
  
  
   Thanks in advance,
  
  
   Peter
  
  
 
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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Jared Blitzstein
The ease of installing Hudson was unbelievable, especially the test  
drive. I want to elaborate on my statement a little bit, I looked at  
Continuum and Hudson late last year and haven't used them since  
(though I tried to give Hudson another spin 3 weeks ago and got some  
null pointers right off the bat). I looked at Team City 3 and Bamboo  
(2 beta) last week and the push to use one over the other was that we  
already use a few Atlassian products at my job. They were both quality  
products and seem robust, but the ease of Hudson makes it very  
appealing as well.


On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Adam wrote:


We had used Continuum and had no problems with it for the most part
until we came across a bug in our version (1.0.3) that we'd have had
to upgrade to 1.1.  We switched to Hudson at that point just based on
ease of installation and it has been great for the time we've been
using it so I say +1 for Hudson as well.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jared Blitzstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both  
Continuum,
Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird issues with  
Hudson that I
couldn't work out (note: the author was willing to lend a hand but  
I didn't
have enough time) and had to just move on, but it built 4 out of 5  
of my
projects no problem. I'm currently playing with Bamboo and it seems  
to fit
well for my needs. I would recommend giving each of them a few  
hours of play
time and coming up with your own opinion, but ultimately I'm going  
with
Bamboo (Team City would be my next choice followed closely by a  
revisit to
Hudson). I definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't  
looked

at it in a while



On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:



Has anyone looked at Bamboo?

-Original Message-
From: Tom Huybrechts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2008 13:21
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: continuous integration server

Hudson, without a doubt.
See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the  
making?! :-)



Thanks in advance,


Peter




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RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Sommers, Elizabeth
I use Vulcan.  I like the fact that I can run multiple instances of it
in the same tomcat.  It also does everything I need in a CI server.

http://code.google.com/p/vulcan/

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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Gregory Kick
@Liz

Just out of curiosity, why would you want to be running multiple instances?

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 I use Vulcan.  I like the fact that I can run multiple instances of it
  in the same tomcat.  It also does everything I need in a CI server.

  http://code.google.com/p/vulcan/

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RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Prystash,John

We use QuickBuild, which is the professional version of Luntbuild, for
Maven.  The experience has been pleasant, was wondering if anyone else
has used either?

-Original Message-
From: Jared Blitzstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: continuous integration server

The ease of installing Hudson was unbelievable, especially the test
drive. I want to elaborate on my statement a little bit, I looked at
Continuum and Hudson late last year and haven't used them since (though
I tried to give Hudson another spin 3 weeks ago and got some null
pointers right off the bat). I looked at Team City 3 and Bamboo
(2 beta) last week and the push to use one over the other was that we
already use a few Atlassian products at my job. They were both quality
products and seem robust, but the ease of Hudson makes it very appealing
as well.

On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Adam wrote:

 We had used Continuum and had no problems with it for the most part 
 until we came across a bug in our version (1.0.3) that we'd have had 
 to upgrade to 1.1.  We switched to Hudson at that point just based on 
 ease of installation and it has been great for the time we've been 
 using it so I say +1 for Hudson as well.

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jared Blitzstein 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both 
 Continuum, Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird issues 
 with Hudson that I couldn't work out (note: the author was willing to

 lend a hand but I didn't have enough time) and had to just move on, 
 but it built 4 out of 5 of my projects no problem. I'm currently 
 playing with Bamboo and it seems to fit well for my needs. I would 
 recommend giving each of them a few hours of play time and coming up 
 with your own opinion, but ultimately I'm going with Bamboo (Team 
 City would be my next choice followed closely by a revisit to 
 Hudson). I definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't 
 looked at it in a while



 On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:


 Has anyone looked at Bamboo?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Huybrechts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 April 2008 13:21
 To: Maven Users List
 Subject: Re: continuous integration server

 Hudson, without a doubt.
 See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at 
 http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

 Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! 
 :-)


 Thanks in advance,


 Peter



 
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RE: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Mayank Gupta
We also use quickbuild and we do an end to end build automation using
this. It starts from tagging to compilation, packaging, moving
deliverables to release area, creation of release notes and pushing the
same in wiki format, auto deployment in staging environments, automated
testing and effective communication.

Regards,
Mayank


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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:17 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: RE: continuous integration server


We use QuickBuild, which is the professional version of Luntbuild, for
Maven.  The experience has been pleasant, was wondering if anyone else
has used either?

-Original Message-
From: Jared Blitzstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: continuous integration server

The ease of installing Hudson was unbelievable, especially the test
drive. I want to elaborate on my statement a little bit, I looked at
Continuum and Hudson late last year and haven't used them since (though
I tried to give Hudson another spin 3 weeks ago and got some null
pointers right off the bat). I looked at Team City 3 and Bamboo
(2 beta) last week and the push to use one over the other was that we
already use a few Atlassian products at my job. They were both quality
products and seem robust, but the ease of Hudson makes it very appealing
as well.

On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Adam wrote:

 We had used Continuum and had no problems with it for the most part 
 until we came across a bug in our version (1.0.3) that we'd have had 
 to upgrade to 1.1.  We switched to Hudson at that point just based on 
 ease of installation and it has been great for the time we've been 
 using it so I say +1 for Hudson as well.

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jared Blitzstein 
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 Just an FYI, bamboo 2.0 went live today. I've looked at both 
 Continuum, Bamboo, Hudson, and Team City. I've hit some weird issues 
 with Hudson that I couldn't work out (note: the author was willing to

 lend a hand but I didn't have enough time) and had to just move on, 
 but it built 4 out of 5 of my projects no problem. I'm currently 
 playing with Bamboo and it seems to fit well for my needs. I would 
 recommend giving each of them a few hours of play time and coming up 
 with your own opinion, but ultimately I'm going with Bamboo (Team 
 City would be my next choice followed closely by a revisit to 
 Hudson). I definitely wasn't a fan of Continuum, but I also haven't 
 looked at it in a while



 On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Matthew Tordoff wrote:


 Has anyone looked at Bamboo?

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 Hudson, without a doubt.
 See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at 
 http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

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 Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! 
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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread James William Dumay
Springs Bamboo seems to be working fine :)

James

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 10:50 -0500, Gregory Kick wrote:
 i know that spring uses bamboo for it's builds and i can't remember
 the last time that i've actually seen it work...
 
 http://build.springframework.org:8085/
 
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   Hudson, without a doubt.
   See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
   http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/
 
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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-15 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Peter Horlock
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  Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

  Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)

We have been using CruiseControl (since July 2007), some of the other
CI tools weren't really ready then.

There are lots of things that I would like to have but just getting CI
up and running is more important.

Some things you may want to consider:
* If Project B depends on Project A and A is rebuilt, does B get rebuilt?
* If B and A are in the list of projects to get rebuilt, is A rebuilt
first to avoid false build failures on B (because the changes in A are
not yet available)
* Trend analysis (having just looked at hudson this appears to do what
I want and is quite nice)

As someone suggested, your probably going to have to invest some time
and play with these tools and come to your own conclusion.

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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Tom Huybrechts
Hudson, without a doubt.
See https://hudson.dev.java.net/ or a live instance at
http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter Horlock
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  Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

  Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)


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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Peter Horlock
could you tell me your reason why you prefer hudson?


Thanks,

Peter


Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Milos Kleint
+1 on hudson

netbeans.org is using it as well at
http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson

Milos


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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Jason van Zyl

Hudson.

It just works. Kohsuke is dedicated, releases often and the community  
is thriving. With clients we have seen everything, and tried  
everything and Hudson has proven to the most reliable, easiest to  
setup, and the hardest to knock down. It just uses the file system, no  
databases or external resources as such it is simple which allows it  
to easily support multi-node setups.


On 13-Apr-08, at 4:36 AM, Peter Horlock wrote:

Hi,

Which continuous integration server would you recommend me?

Continuum? Or is there also a version by sonatype in the making?! :-)


Thanks in advance,


Peter


Thanks,

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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Tom Huybrechts
Kohsuke keeps it simple, yet very powerful. You can have Hudson
installed and your first build running within minutes.
If you need customization, it is also incredibly easy to extend via plugins.

Just try it, you'll never look back...

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Re: continuous integration server

2008-04-13 Thread Olivier Dehon
How about handling of maven2 project releases? Does it integrate nicely
with the release plugin?
And also, one point of concern is the security and roles management (who
can deploy/force builds/release per project?

I have been using Continuum for about a year without too many issues and
it deals with all that nicely, does Hudson provide those features?

Reading from the doc links below, it appeared to me Hudson was less well
integrated for Maven 2 projects?

Am I wrong?

-Olivier

On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 16:34 +0200, Tom Huybrechts wrote:
 Kohsuke keeps it simple, yet very powerful. You can have Hudson
 installed and your first build running within minutes.
 If you need customization, it is also incredibly easy to extend via plugins.
 
 Just try it, you'll never look back...
 
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2008-04-13 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 13-Apr-08, at 8:52 AM, Olivier Dehon wrote:
How about handling of maven2 project releases? Does it integrate  
nicely

with the release plugin?


There's nothing magical about configuring Hudson to fire off any set  
of plugins with any goals. We do on demand builds and releases with  
Hudson though this is more in the realm of a build server. We also  
don't use the release plugin across the board because it's doesn't  
work flawlessly with many SCMs other then subversion. So a lot of  
times I know our clients must roll something of their own and Hudson  
works great for this.




And also, one point of concern is the security and roles management  
(who

can deploy/force builds/release per project?



There is authentication, but honestly I deal with some of the largest  
IT environments and they care more that it works. We've worked around  
any security concern putting Apache in front of it and use one of the  
security modules. But I know from talking with James Dumay that  
working with Redback is no great pleasure talking with him about his  
experiences in trying to plug Redback into Crowd. Generally using  
mod_authz_ldap with some groups and you can do what you need to do.  
That's not to say that rbac like control isn't a good thing to have  
but people prefer the general system work first, which Hudson does  
better then anything else IMO.


I have been using Continuum for about a year without too many issues  
and

it deals with all that nicely, does Hudson provide those features?

Reading from the doc links below, it appeared to me Hudson was less  
well

integrated for Maven 2 projects?

Am I wrong?



The Maven integration is so-so but that's changing everyday. I know  
from my vantage point Hudson is the only system I will provide  
commercial support for at Sonatype because the battle is over. Hudson  
won by making developers  lives' easier. Kohsuke will go to no end to  
make things easier for users. He wrote a JNI tool so that people using  
ActiveDirectory wouldn't have to login all over the place. The other  
very cool thing was the use of Winstone in creating the easiest way to  
get a system up and running anyone has ever seen. These are the types  
of things Kohsuke will do and it brings other really good developers  
to the table. Tom is now doing some very cool things with Hudson for  
automated artifact promotion and Continuum certainly doesn't do that  
and if you ask a development organization if they wanted automated  
promotion models or security, they would take the automated promotion  
models. Along with all the other cool things in Hudson. Just that it  
has a real plugin model makes a world of difference because it truly  
is extensible like Maven.


What's important is that it continues to work which is why people are  
flocking to Hudson. We actually use the freestyle builds with our  
Maven projects and though that takes a few minutes to setup in the  
long run it just works.


At any rate I guarantee you that inside 3 months Hudson will have the  
best Maven integration of any CI/Build Server there is.



-Olivier

On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 16:34 +0200, Tom Huybrechts wrote:

Kohsuke keeps it simple, yet very powerful. You can have Hudson
installed and your first build running within minutes.
If you need customization, it is also incredibly easy to extend via  
plugins.


Just try it, you'll never look back...

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