Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-16 Thread Pieter van den Hombergh
Exactly those, but let me have a look to verify.
My list is
Payara micro,
Payara ee common
Payara common
Payara server
Payara tooling.

I use maven projects throughout now, which lets me specify the javaee-api
version 8.0

On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, 16:47 Richard Grin, 
wrote:

> Hi Pieter,
>
> Thanks for this information. Which plugin did you use exactly? Geertjan
> says that the PRs are not integrated yet.
>
> Do you mean the plugins which can be found with the NetBeans menu Tools >
> Plugins: Payara EE Common, Payara Common, Payara Server, Payara Tooling?
>
> Richard
> Le 16/06/2019 à 16:26, Pieter van den Hombergh a écrit :
>
> As Geertjan indicates, the jee 8 integration works well with the payara
> plugin and nb 11.
> I hvae used in an exam setting recently.
>
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 11:46 Richard Grin, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
>> NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?
>>
>> Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?
>>
>> I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
>> the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
>> quite the case these days.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, or here:

http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/72263/payara-server-micro

Gj

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM Richard Grin 
wrote:

> Hi Pieter,
>
> Thanks for this information. Which plugin did you use exactly? Geertjan
> says that the PRs are not integrated yet.
>
> Do you mean the plugins which can be found with the NetBeans menu Tools >
> Plugins: Payara EE Common, Payara Common, Payara Server, Payara Tooling?
>
> Richard
> Le 16/06/2019 à 16:26, Pieter van den Hombergh a écrit :
>
> As Geertjan indicates, the jee 8 integration works well with the payara
> plugin and nb 11.
> I hvae used in an exam setting recently.
>
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 11:46 Richard Grin, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
>> NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?
>>
>> Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?
>>
>> I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
>> the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
>> quite the case these days.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
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> Cordialement,
>
> Richard Grin
>
>


Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-16 Thread Richard Grin
Hi Pieter,

Thanks for this information. Which plugin did you use exactly? Geertjan says 
that the PRs are not integrated yet.

Do you mean the plugins which can be found with the NetBeans menu Tools > 
Plugins: Payara EE Common, Payara Common, Payara Server, Payara Tooling?

Richard

Le 16/06/2019 à 16:26, Pieter van den Hombergh a écrit :
As Geertjan indicates, the jee 8 integration works well with the payara plugin 
and nb 11.
I hvae used in an exam setting recently.

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 11:46 Richard Grin, 
mailto:richard.g...@univ-cotedazur.fr>> wrote:
Hi,

I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?

Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?

I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
quite the case these days.

Richard


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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-16 Thread Pieter van den Hombergh
As Geertjan indicates, the jee 8 integration works well with the payara
plugin and nb 11.
I hvae used in an exam setting recently.

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 11:46 Richard Grin, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
> NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?
>
> Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?
>
> I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
> the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
> quite the case these days.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-15 Thread Richard Grin
Thanks a lot Josh for the information.  I have just read your message after 
answering Geerjan (whom I was asking for it).

Le 15/06/2019 à 17:37, Josh Juneau a écrit :
Hi Richard,

The PR for inclusion of Java EE 8 support has been issued...I'm just working 
out a few minor build discrepancies...hoping to get it into the next release.  
As far as creating a Java EE 8 application project, you can also use the Maven 
archetype that I developed for use with Apache NetBeans:

https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8-archetype

The Java EE 8 support uses this archetype when it creates a new Java EE 8 
project.  The Java EE 8 support also adds support for GlassFish 5.0.1 and 
GlassFish 5.1.  Let me know if you have any questions.


Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau



On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 5:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> wrote:

Can you be very explicit about ‘but that is not quite the case these days’? Do 
you mean specifically the need for an installer, which already exists, but you 
can’t find it? We need very explicit statements because we really want to 
support you.

And what do you mean explicitly about NetBeans ‘adapted to Java EE 8’, very 
explicitly? We have a PR right now about Payara integration by the Payara team, 
as well as a PR by Josh Juneau about various UI elements explicitly including 
Java EE 8. So these are available but not integrated yet.

Though using Maven you could set up an archetype, e.g., the AirHacks archetypes 
by Adam Bien, which support Java EE 8, and deploy to GlassFish, from Apache 
NetBeans 11.0 onwards.

Gj


On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 11:46, Richard Grin 
mailto:richard.g...@univ-cotedazur.fr>> wrote:
Hi,

I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?

Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?

I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
quite the case these days.

Richard


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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-15 Thread Richard Grin
Hi Geertjan,

A use case that you can reproduce with NetBeans 11.0 (Build 
incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
Java: 1.8.0_172; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.172-b11
Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 1.8.0_172-b11
System: Windows 10 version 10.0 running on amd64; Cp1252; fr_FR (nb).

Menu File > New Project. Java with Maven and Web Application. Next.

I give a name to the project. Next.

Server Payara 5.192. No choice for Java EE 8. I choose Java EE 7 Web. Click 
Finish.

If I want to use a wizard to generate some code:

Right click on the project > New > Entity Classes from Database.

Right click on the project > New > JSF Pages from Entity Classes. Add all the 
entity classes. Next.

I choose JSF 2.2 (no "JSF 2.3").

[  Just by the way, at this moment there is a problem if I launch the 
application by mistake. NetBeans is stuck for a very long time because Payara 
cannot start and it is not possible to cancel quickly the process by clicking 
on the square linked to the process at the bottom of the NetBeans window.  ]

If I want to use Java EE 8 instead of Jva EE 7, I must make changes in pom;xml 
(which ones exactly? Not so clear) and in web.xml and persistence.xml (change 
the versions).

Instead I could use some Maven archetypes as you suggest; I think I will choose 
this solution if nothing is changed in NetBeans before my course. I have found 
2 archetypes: from Adam Bien and from Philip Riecks.

But with the older versions of NetBeans and Java EE, all was out of the box and 
it was a big advantage over other IDEs. It's no longer quite the case today 
with NetBeans 11 and Java EE 8. It is the simple explanation of what I said in 
my previous message. In my course I have a lot of things to explain in a very 
short time and don't want to spend too much time in installation details or on 
Maven.

It's good news that Payara will soon be integrated in NetBeans without an 
external plugin. Where can I find the elements by Josh Juneau about Java EE 8? 
Will they be integrated in the next version of NetBeans? Around what date will 
it be ready (to find out if I can wait before preparing my course)?

Thanks for the good work of the whole team working on NetBeans.

Best regards,

Richard

Le 15/06/2019 à 12:30, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit :

Can you be very explicit about ‘but that is not quite the case these days’? Do 
you mean specifically the need for an installer, which already exists, but you 
can’t find it? We need very explicit statements because we really want to 
support you.

And what do you mean explicitly about NetBeans ‘adapted to Java EE 8’, very 
explicitly? We have a PR right now about Payara integration by the Payara team, 
as well as a PR by Josh Juneau about various UI elements explicitly including 
Java EE 8. So these are available but not integrated yet.

Though using Maven you could set up an archetype, e.g., the AirHacks archetypes 
by Adam Bien, which support Java EE 8, and deploy to GlassFish, from Apache 
NetBeans 11.0 onwards.

Gj


On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 11:46, Richard Grin 
mailto:richard.g...@univ-cotedazur.fr>> wrote:
Hi,

I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?

Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?

I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
quite the case these days.

Richard


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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-15 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Richard,

The PR for inclusion of Java EE 8 support has been issued...I'm just
working out a few minor build discrepancies...hoping to get it into the
next release.  As far as creating a Java EE 8 application project, you can
also use the Maven archetype that I developed for use with Apache NetBeans:

https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8-archetype

The Java EE 8 support uses this archetype when it creates a new Java EE 8
project.  The Java EE 8 support also adds support for GlassFish 5.0.1 and
GlassFish 5.1.  Let me know if you have any questions.


Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau




On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 5:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

>
> Can you be very explicit about ‘but that is not quite the case these
> days’? Do you mean specifically the need for an installer, which already
> exists, but you can’t find it? We need very explicit statements because we
> really want to support you.
>
> And what do you mean explicitly about NetBeans ‘adapted to Java EE 8’,
> very explicitly? We have a PR right now about Payara integration by the
> Payara team, as well as a PR by Josh Juneau about various UI elements
> explicitly including Java EE 8. So these are available but not integrated
> yet.
>
> Though using Maven you could set up an archetype, e.g., the AirHacks
> archetypes by Adam Bien, which support Java EE 8, and deploy to GlassFish,
> from Apache NetBeans 11.0 onwards.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 11:46, Richard Grin 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
>> NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?
>>
>> Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?
>>
>> I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
>> the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
>> quite the case these days.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -
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Re: NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Can you be very explicit about ‘but that is not quite the case these days’?
Do you mean specifically the need for an installer, which already exists,
but you can’t find it? We need very explicit statements because we really
want to support you.

And what do you mean explicitly about NetBeans ‘adapted to Java EE 8’, very
explicitly? We have a PR right now about Payara integration by the Payara
team, as well as a PR by Josh Juneau about various UI elements explicitly
including Java EE 8. So these are available but not integrated yet.

Though using Maven you could set up an archetype, e.g., the AirHacks
archetypes by Adam Bien, which support Java EE 8, and deploy to GlassFish,
from Apache NetBeans 11.0 onwards.

Gj


On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 11:46, Richard Grin 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a
> NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?
>
> Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?
>
> I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of
> the working environment was very simple for students but this is not
> quite the case these days.
>
> Richard
>
>
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NetBeans for Java EE 8

2019-06-15 Thread Richard Grin
Hi,

I'm preparing a course on Java EE for this fall. When can I expect a 
NetBeans version adapted to Java EE 8? Is it already planned?

Will the last versions of Payara be included in the available servers?

I have been using NetBeans for a long time because the installation of 
the working environment was very simple for students but this is not 
quite the case these days.

Richard


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