Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Brenden Towey]

Weirdly, this does not seem to be correct.  It appears the file 
permissions don't matter.  From that Superuser question I alluded to 
earlier:


"Because file permissions don't matter, it is an operating system 
protected area. You need to copy out and back in, and OK the UAC prompt. 
If you have disabled UAC then re-enable it."


Link:

https://superuser.com/questions/1608045/how-to-modify-read-only-file-on-windows-10

So at least one Windows maven seems to think that the effective 
permissions don't matter.  I think that's very odd, but it appears to be 
true.



On 12/7/2020 9:53 AM, Peter Toye wrote:

Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,

Well, on  my machine (Windows 10 Home 64-bit) I don't have write 
access to the directory of the file, but Admin does.


I assume you've looked at the effective permissions part of the file 
properties to check.

Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

On 12/7/20 9:52 AM, Brenden Towey wrote:


Yup, this worked.  It is super inconvenient though.  First, I'm used 
to picking Gvim directly off of a context menu  (right click the file, 
pick "Edit with Gvim").  Second I have to actually navigate to the 
Gvim file on my hard drive to do this.  Windows doesn't present "run 
as administrator" if I try to use a shortcut.  So the quick bar at the 
bottom of my screen doesn't work, and neither does the Start menu.  It 
has to be navigated manually using Explorer.  Then after that I have 
to manually navigate to the netbeans.conf file again because Gvim 
starts up with the default in its own directory, not where I was 
looking two minutes ago with Explorer.


Again a simple config file in my users directory that's owned by me 
would be a lot more convenient.
That's possible create an etc dir in your netbeans user dir, than add a 
writable copy of netbeans.conf there.


Thank you all for the help though, it was sincerely appreciated. Now 
my font size is HUGE. :-)




On 12/7/2020 9:36 AM, Peter Toye wrote:

Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,

You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an 
administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!


Best regards,

Peter
mailto:netbe...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:

> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far 
I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to 
nebeans.conf and failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your 
configuration file very much.  I'd like to see changes to the 
installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and 
maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably 
need make changes to.


> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under 
windows 10?  I'd appreciate the help.



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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Peter Toye]

Dear Brenden,

Well, on  my machine (Windows 10 Home 64-bit) I don't have write access to the 
directory of the file, but Admin does.

I assume you've looked at the effective permissions part of the file properties 
to check.

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:netbe...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:41:57 PM, you wrote:



Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just forgot to 
include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall always check 
Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )

Yes, I don't have permission.  The entire directory tree including all files is 
marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by "Administrators" (and no 
group set, group is "None").  The read-only bit seems to be the main problem, 
but I suspect that the file ownership will also figure in to there somewhere as 
well.  Trying to edit this as text file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the 
file even with :w!  And even if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would 
let me change the read only status.  It runs and doesn't report an error, but 
the read only status remains.

At minimum this is really inconvenient.  At worst I guess I might have to wait 
for a fix and then re-install.

I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users directory, say 
in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and I could just change as 
needed.



On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?
Gj

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey  wrote:

I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've 
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and 
failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very 
much.  I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit 
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files 
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.

Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 
10?  I'd appreciate the help.


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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Brenden Towey]

Yup, this worked.  It is super inconvenient though.  First, I'm used to 
picking Gvim directly off of a context menu  (right click the file, pick 
"Edit with Gvim").  Second I have to actually navigate to the Gvim file 
on my hard drive to do this.  Windows doesn't present "run as 
administrator" if I try to use a shortcut.  So the quick bar at the 
bottom of my screen doesn't work, and neither does the Start menu.  It 
has to be navigated manually using Explorer.  Then after that I have to 
manually navigate to the netbeans.conf file again because Gvim starts up 
with the default in its own directory, not where I was looking two 
minutes ago with Explorer.


Again a simple config file in my users directory that's owned by me 
would be a lot more convenient.


Thank you all for the help though, it was sincerely appreciated. Now my 
font size is HUGE. :-)




On 12/7/2020 9:36 AM, Peter Toye wrote:

Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf Dear Brenden,

You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an 
administrator. And don't forget to save a copy first!


Best regards,

Peter
mailto:netbe...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:

> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far 
I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to 
nebeans.conf and failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your 
configuration file very much.  I'd like to see changes to the 
installer to specifically permit easier editing of that file, and 
maybe a review to identify other files that the user might reasonably 
need make changes to.


> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under 
windows 10?  I'd appreciate the help.



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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

You can make a copy of the netbeans.conf in your userdir>/etc/netbeans.conf



On 12/7/20 9:41 AM, Brenden Towey wrote:


Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just 
forgot to include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall 
always check Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )


Yes, I don't have permission.  The entire directory tree including all 
files is marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by 
"Administrators" (and no group set, group is "None").  The read-only 
bit seems to be the main problem, but I suspect that the file 
ownership will also figure in to there somewhere as well. Trying to 
edit this as text file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the file even 
with :w!  And even if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would 
let me change the read only status.  It runs and doesn't report an 
error, but the read only status remains.


At minimum this is really inconvenient.  At worst I guess I might have 
to wait for a fix and then re-install.


I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users 
directory, say in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and 
I could just change as needed.




On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?

Gj

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey > wrote:


I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
I've
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to
nebeans.conf and
failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration
file very
much.  I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically
permit
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other
files
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.

Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under
windows
10?  I'd appreciate the help.


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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Brenden Towey]

Sorry about that, I just asked about this on Superuser and I just forgot 
to include the details since I had just explained them. (Yall always 
check Superuser every time yall get an email, right? :-) )


Yes, I don't have permission.  The entire directory tree including all 
files is marked as "Read Only" and all the files are owned by 
"Administrators" (and no group set, group is "None").  The read-only bit 
seems to be the main problem, but I suspect that the file ownership will 
also figure in to there somewhere as well.  Trying to edit this as text 
file (Gvim) doesn't allow me to change the file even with :w!  And even 
if I run Explorer with Admin permissions it would let me change the read 
only status.  It runs and doesn't report an error, but the read only 
status remains.


At minimum this is really inconvenient.  At worst I guess I might have 
to wait for a fix and then re-install.


I think I'd be happier with a configuration file under my users 
directory, say in a .netbeans directory or something, that I owned and I 
could just change as needed.




On 12/7/2020 9:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?

Gj

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey > wrote:


I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far
I've
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf
and
failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file
very
much.  I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically
permit
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other
files
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.

Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
10?  I'd appreciate the help.


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RE: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

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Dear Brenden,

You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an administrator. 
And don't forget to save a copy first!

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:netbe...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com <http://www.ptoye.com> 

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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:

> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've spent 
> a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and failing.  
> Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very much.  I'd like 
> to see changes to the installer to specifically permit easier editing of that 
> file, and maybe a review to identify other files that the user might 
> reasonably need make changes to.

> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 10?  
> I'd appreciate the help.


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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Peter Toye]

Dear Brenden,

You have to run Wordpad (or whatever editor you're using) as an administrator. 
And don't forget to save a copy first!

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:netbe...@ptoye.com
www.ptoye.com

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Monday, December 7, 2020, 5:20:47 PM, you wrote:

> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've spent 
> a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and failing.  
> Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very much.  I'd like 
> to see changes to the installer to specifically permit easier editing of that 
> file, and maybe a review to identify other files that the user might 
> reasonably need make changes to.

> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 10?  
> I'd appreciate the help.


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Re: New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Failing how? Maybe you don’t have permissions on the file?

Gj

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:21, Brenden Towey  wrote:

> I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've
> spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and
> failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very
> much.  I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit
> easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files
> that the user might reasonably need make changes to.
>
> Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows
> 10?  I'd appreciate the help.
>
>
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New 12.2 install, can't change netbeans.conf

[Brenden Towey]

I have a brand new 12.2 installation under Windows 10, and so far I've 
spent a fair amount of time trying to make changes to nebeans.conf and 
failing.  Windows UAC doesn't seem to like your configuration file very 
much.  I'd like to see changes to the installer to specifically permit 
easier editing of that file, and maybe a review to identify other files 
that the user might reasonably need make changes to.


Corollary: does anyone know how to change netbeans.conf under windows 
10?  I'd appreciate the help.



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