Change Email

[Doug Weidner]

How do you make a change to your email to a different email ???  Doug W.  
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Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.15_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

[Doug Sterrett]

As requested by SourceForge email I downloaded and installed the subject 
version of Apache.  This was an update as I have been using Apache OpenOffice 
on my Mac Mini M-1 for some time with no trouble. All of a sudden I find that 
Apple will not run this version. I am in the middle of writing a book and this 
brought me to a screeching halt.  Why won’t this update run on Apple?

Doug Sterrett
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RE: Unable to uninstall

[Doug Giles]

Bernard, 

Go to "settings" then "apps" then "search, sort and filter by drive.  You 
should be able to uninstall your program from here, regardless of installation 
language.

From: BERNARD H SILVERMAN
Sent: May 6, 2020 11:48 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Unable to uninstall 

I downloaded Open Office and somehow it downloaded the French version.  I do 
not speak French and since all of the instructions are shown to me in French I 
am unable to Uninstall it.  To make matters worse I tried to reinstall open 
office again this time making sure I was reinstalling the English version but I 
am getting back an error message telling me the download is not completing 
because another Open Windows application is already installed.  HELP!

Re: Open Office Questions

[Doug]

Jon,

I don't represent Apache OpenOffice in any official way but I can tell you 
this: OpenOffice and Microsoft Word are two entirely different program 
suites. Microsoft Office is a commercial suite that you have to buy but the 
OpenOffice suite is completely free.  The bulk of my experience is with the 
word processor elements in each suite.  I have found there is nothing in 
Microsoft Word that I cannot duplicate in OpenOffice.  I have no real 
experience with the other elements of these suites so there may be something 
in the accounting or data base side that you specifically need from 
Microsoft.  Given that OpenOffice is completely free you should at least try 
it out before you make up your mind.  Good luck.


http://www.openoffice.org/download/


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From: jonathan smith

Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 10:59 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: open office questions

Hi,
I am a young artist who needs word to do invoices and general use for 
business uses, can you tell me please:
1. is your downloadable free software legal, because you have to buy 
Microsoft Office?

2. Is it simple to download as I am not technologically minded at all.
Many thanks for your time,
Jon 



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Online Registration

[Doug Parris]

Why is it that I have to go through the process to register Open Office
EVERY time I click it to open the application??
Doug Parris

Re: Cursor stuck

[Doug Hovelson]

Try using the arrow keys. Works sometimes.

Get Outlook for Android


From: Bev 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:20:06 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; da...@robley.net.au
Subject: Re: Cursor stuck

And you would choose that how? with no curser movement?

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From: "David Robley" 
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To: 
Subject: Re: Cursor stuck

> To force a new page, go to the top menu and choose Insert | Manual Break,
> select Page break and click OK
>
>
> On 29/08/18 07:16, Stan Reffin wrote:
>> HI Please could you tell me how to move a stuck cursor from the bottom of
>> page 8 to page 9. My system is version 4/12 I have created a  document
>> and I
>> have tried to tab down to create page nine with no luck.
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>
>
> Cheers
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>
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Re: Question about your user manual

[Doug Cox]

 I appreciate the response. I pulled the manual down from the Brother web site 
so if there is another then I am not sure why this was the only manual to pull 
down. The problem I have is if I copy a segment from a web site and then try to 
paste into your writer program it will not let me paste the information unless 
I try many times picking various spots in the copy part. It is like I have to 
keep going back and right clicking copy and then go back to the writer program 
and try to paste and it will not let me until some random try and then I can 
paste it. I do not understand why it is so hard to copy and paste. I know it is 
capable of doing the task, but I do not understand why it is so hard to make it 
possible to do this. I am just trying to figure out why or what I am doing 
wrong that this has to be so difficult of a task to do. Thank you.

On Friday, June 15, 2018, 12:20:08 AM PDT, DaveB  wrote: 
 
 
   
 Responses are given in-line with your original message.
 
  Original Message 
 From: Douglas Cox 
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:01:04 -0700
 
  
 I pulled down the user manual for the program. 
 
 No, you downloaded a 2005 edition of the user guide for version 2 of the 
original software called OpenOffice.org, before it became Apache OpenOffice.
 
 
 I am trying to figure out why is it so damn hard to copy and paste from online 
items to your word program. 
 
 When you say "word program", you most likely mean the "Writer" word processing 
component of the software.
 
 
 Upon looking through your user manual I figured out why, it is because in the 
index of this user manual you cannot even keep the same context to what you 
should be defining. 
 
 No, it is because you were reading a version 2.0 user guide which did not 
relate to the current (4.1.5) version of the software.
 
 
 I refer you to 
https://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/OOo2.x/user_guide2_draft.pdf 
page 465 or 499 in the pull down this is what you have in your user manual 
index: 
cats

care
.
feeding

121
long haired
.
Maine Coon

121
Persian

121
Long haired
..
OpenOffice.org User Guide for 2.x465Index
Himalayan
..
121
Persian

121
semi long haired
..
Maine Coon

121
Norwegian Forest
...
121
shorthaired
..
Abyssinian
..
121
American Shorthair

120, 1
21
Bengal
.
121

I cannot even find a search area to put in where to find copy and paste 
 
 You downloaded a PDF file, so your PDF reader software will provide this 
search facility.
 
 
 as your user manual is more confusing and disorganized as any manual I have 
ever seen, and I developed many manuals for the Army. But the worst is that 
when I go to those pages it is not about the cats it is a typing example. I 
still cannot find out why it is so hard to copy and paste things to your word 
program.  
 
 You haven't indicated what difficulty you were experiencing with copy and 
paste, or what "things" you are copying from and how you are pasting them into 
Writer.
 
 
 Thanks. Douglas Cox 
 
 If you would care to write back to this mailing list with details of:

   - Which version of the software you are using.   
 
   - What you are trying to copy from (eg. a web page, another type of 
document, etc.)
   
   - If possible, provide a link to the source to be copied from.   
 

   - How you are trying to paste the clipboard content into Writer (eg. Ctrl+V 
key combination, menu "Edit -> Paste Special...", etc.)
   - What you expect the copy - paste result to be.
 
Armed with this information, I am sure one of the subscribers to this mailing 
list will volunteer to provide some pointers to a possible solution to your 
issue.
 
Regards Dave
 NOTE: You are not subscribed to this mailing list, so you may not always see 
replies from other subscribers.
  -- 
 Please address any reply to the mailing list only. Any messages sent to this 
noreply@ address are automatically deleted from the server and will never be 
read.
 
 

Specific use of OO.Org

[Doug Rhodes]

Hello,

Difficult to get to you. I need a question answered. I have a older disc 
for OO.O vs.3.1 ?. I see there is a newer offering. My question is this (as I 
never really learned or needed to learn) all the apps of the old one. I have 
many, many PDF docs that have way too many pages in them. Adobe says I need to 
buy their Acrobat Professional XI or subscribe to their DC version for a 
monthly rate to be able to edit-(extract & delete)  unnecessary pages and blank 
pages that come with the user manuals that you get online. Is this possible to 
do with OO 4.1.4 ? I think that is what the latest version is? Or do I have to 
bite the bullet and buy their product?  (Adobe Acrobat DC )

I can't find any way to permanently change default font

[Doug Harris]

I am a writer, and I create a number of new files daily. Every time I do
so, I have to manually change the font/size from Times New Roman to
Calibri, my font of choice, 11 pt being my size of choice.
I can't find a way to make that a permanent change.
Please help.
Doug Harris
434-369-1212

Re: My entire novel was replaced with hash[marks]

[Doug]

On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, John Hart wrote:

On 11/23/2016 4:36 PM, Doug wrote:
Take "extraordinary"--and the line I quoted says this is a PROBLEM 
known for some time; therefore presumably there is a way to solve it 
but nobody
has bothered.  And yes, I am careful, but nobody's perfect. OTOH, I 
don't know why anyone would shut off their computer while in the 
middle of using a
word processor. And anyone who is using a computer for serious 
business has an UPS--uninteruptable power supply.


--doug 

I use an editor written twenty years ago for technical work.
It automatically saves what you're working on every five minutes
in a scratch file so if something goes wrong, you won't loose
your changes. Another feature it has, when a file is changed, it
automatically creates a backup, so even if the scratch file
gets corrupted, the original isn't wiped out. These are simple
things to implement, and with millions of OO users, would save a
lot of people a lot of grief. A feature to protect user files
could be added in less time than has been spent chastising
users for not learning how to do backups.

jrh

That sounds like a good editor to use. what's the name of it, and what 
OS does it work on?


--doug

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Re: Windows 10 default Apps

[Doug]

On 11/23/2016 07:59 PM, Bert Carter wrote:

Greetings to Whoever,

I have used Open Office for a few years now and find it excellent.

Previous the default program to open documents on my computer has been Open 
Office.

Windows 10 has changed the default program to Microsoft Word and I can’t change 
it back to Open Office no matter how hard I try.

Can you please advise how I can change it back?

Regards,  Bert Carter


I suspect that if you use a non-Microsoft email and browser, you will be 
able to open documents received in your choice of application.
Also, you might delete MSWord if you never use it, but first make sure 
that OO will open all files that Word will.


--doug

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Re: My entire novel was replaced with hash[marks]

[Doug]

On 11/23/2016 01:25 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 21:01 22/11/2016 -0600, Doug Noname wrote:

On 11/22/2016 02:28 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
Indeed, this is a problem known for quite some times. IMHO the most 
critical one. But nothing done yet about that. Very often, it is 
linked to power shortage during the save operation.


*"Indeed, this is a problem known for quite some times. IMHO the most 
critical one. But nothing done yet about that."* I bet if more people 
knew that, there would be a lot fewer people using OpenOffice!


They would be crazy to reject an application merely because they saw a 
mess created because they had powered their computer off whilst a 
program - here OpenOffice - was still doing its job, or because of a 
hardware or operating system problem. That's why you keep back-up copies.


I'm glad I'm not using OO. Nor its fork, LibreOffice. For other 
reasons, but this one is a lulu!


I don't know what a "lulu" is; the Urban Dictionary tells me it means 
"beautiful, gorgeous, magnificent, extraordinary" - though I doubt 
that is what you mean.
Take "extraordinary"--and the line I quoted says this is a PROBLEM known 
for some time; therefore presumably there is a way to solve it but nobody
has bothered.  And yes, I am careful, but nobody's perfect. OTOH, I 
don't know why anyone would shut off their computer while in the middle 
of using a
word processor. And anyone who is using a computer for serious business 
has an UPS--uninteruptable power supply.


--doug

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Re: My entire novel was replaced with hashtags.

[Doug]

On 11/22/2016 02:28 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:

Hi,

To be clear, there is absolutely no way to recover your file as it is.
At best, you can try to recover something from the temporary files, 
see: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=84056
Have you made sure there was no back-up in the profile (if you had the 
option Always create a backup copy checked in the options)?


Indeed, this is a problem known for quite some times. IMHO the most 
critical one. But nothing done yet about that.

Very often, it is linked to power shortage during the save operation.

Hagar


*"Indeed, this is a problem known for quite some times. IMHO the most 
critical one. But nothing done yet about that."*


I bet if more people knew that, there would be a lot fewer people using 
OpenOffice!


I'm glad I'm not using OO. Nor it's fork, LibreOffice. For other 
reasons, but this one is a lulu!


--doug




Le 21/11/2016 à 21:39, Dave Gibson a écrit :
Now, let me say that I'm a retired computer professional, and I 
should know
better.  I'm now a photographer and an author.  I was 20,000 words 
into a

novel targeted at 80,000 words.  I opened my novel, and it was gone.

I saved it to Onedrive.  Thankfully, a week ago, I also saved it to my
laptop's hard drive, but that was 10,000 words ago.

My 88 pages of novel is now 11 pages of hashtags.  I've never seen or 
heard

of anything like this before.

All of my other books open just fine.

I'm on a laptop using Windows 10.   I'm using Open Office 4. What is odd
is that OO wanted me to register again, and when I try to open my 
novel, it

asks what character set I want.  Strange.

I see that I'm not alone in this problem, and it has been happening for
years.

Does anyone have an idea of how to recover an old version of an OO 
document?




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Re: Opening docs on laptop win 10 from win XP on old computer

[Doug]

On 09/21/2016 09:25 PM, James Plante wrote:

The .wps file was produced by Microsoft Works, and to my knowledge, only Works 
will open it. If you can find a copy somewhere, open it and save as .txt or 
.rtf in order to be able to save the content. The formatting will be mostly 
lost, but you’ll have the content that can be opened by AOO; then you can 
reformat it if desired.

Jim


On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:15 AM, danwade2...@comcast.net wrote:

Don't seem to have a problem opening spreadsheets from win XP.
  
Have not been able to open wordprocessing docs...XP doc has .wps and after copying to flash drive and trying to open on laptop the .wps changes to Window Media Player and doc will not open.
  
Am I not following the right path?

  
<http://www.incredimail.com/app/?tag=IM2_Default_Stamp_EN&id=509&lang=9&did=10500&ppd=2672,201106231034,1125,1,2098060385854244917&rui=161573353&app_test_id=0&sd=20160921>
There are a number of entries in Google on how to open such a file. The 
ones I saw depend on another Microsoft program, like Word. One of them 
said to
open the file in a Word document, or as I understand it, start a Word 
document program, and then select OPEN (if that's the command) and then 
open the .wps
file as if it were a regular Word file, and it will. Maybe this would 
work in one of the many editors or word processor files in 
Linux--wouldn't hurt to try.


There is also in Google a file translate routine from some outfit. 
Unless the file is super confidential, you could just post a copy to 
them and they would send it
back in some format you could read. (I'm sure the translate function is 
automated--nobody would have time to read all the stuff they get sent!)


--doug

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Re: Page Header Assistance

[Doug]

On 09/20/2016 09:06 PM, toki wrote:

On 20/09/2016 22:16, Martin Groenescheij wrote:


I consider someone that need 10 to 20 attempts as inexperienced

Ponder on why, for what the OP wants, they have to create the page style
for the last page first, and the page style for the first page, last.
Then factor into consideration what happens, if they get the number of
pages for a specific section wrong.

jonathon

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I don't want to beat this to death, but I have long since given up on 
Open/Libre Office because of this Styles situation. If you want a 
desktop publisher, you should find one and

use it. If you want a word processor, you should look elsewhere.

YES! I just want a very smart electric typewriter.

Your mileage may vary, of course.

--doug

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New Doc.pdf

[Doug Hovelson]

You have received a file via DropBox.

Kindly CLICK HERE to view your document online.

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Re: Research for School

[Doug]

On 08/13/2016 02:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On 8/13/16, Yvonne Simmons  wrote:

Hello,
My name is Yvonne Simmons and I am doing some research on word processors
for school and I was wondering if you could help me out? Would you be
willing to give me three similarities and three differences between your
program and Microsoft Word I would highly appreciate it. Thank You for your
help.

Hello Yvonne.

While it's nice that you are here and willing to interact with the
Apache Open Office users community as a learning exercise, it's not so
nice to ask for others just to reply to your assignment questions ;).

In other words, you should be able to figure differences by yourself
just by reading the Wikipedia entry for each program (eg: Wordperfect,
Apache Open Office Writer, and Microsoft Word). And even better, if
you took the time to install each program and test it  on your own.

I will give you some clues, which will surely help you get started:

1. Apache Open Office is available in a version for the Linux
operating system in addition to Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X.
Microsoft Word does not have a Linux version.
2. Cost: Microsoft Word is not free, Apache Open Office is...
3. Think about the source code, and if modifications to the program
are alllowed on each word processor.

Oh, gotcha, I almost filled all 3. ;-)

Of course, if you start using each you will also notice other
differences with regards to the user interface.

Good luck.
;-)

FC
Buenos Aires, Argentina.


Perhaps Yvonne doesn't own MS Word and does not want to spend the
money to buy it simply to write a short paper for school. OTOH, she
may be forced to buy it to satisfy her instructor. Perhaps the instructor
requires all papers to be submitted in .docx format.
I don't believe Open Office can write docx format output.

If docx format is required, SoftMakerOffice's word processor can do it
and there is a free version for non-commercial use. It doesn't have all
the bells and whistes of the paid version, which is in the $80 range. I
don't have any financial or other interest in Softmaker.

Goog luck, Yvonne!




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Re: Can't find answer on website or Help

[Doug]

On 08/07/2016 02:51 PM, gmbg...@gmail.com wrote:

I am very frustrated in trying to find answers to questions about Open Office, 
it all sounds too technical.
The main problem I have at present is trying to type in text the symbols found 
in music:  I have a sharp symbol on my keyboard but none of the others, 
particularly needing the flat symbol.
I have looked all over the character map as advised in your Help but it just 
isn’t there.  The only way I can do it is to find an old document containing it 
and copy and paste.  Surely this can’t be right?

I am using an HP Pavilion x360 laptop with windows 10.  Like many modern 
laptops it has no number pad or num lock key so I can’t access Alt codes.

Please help.

Gillian

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Don't just b♯,  b♭.  These symbols were typed using a Compose key in 
Linux. There is at least one program that will provide a compose key in 
Windows.


Here is the download site for WinCompose: 
https://github.com/S...evar/wincompose 
<https://github.com/SamHocevar/wincompose>


And here is the site that leads to it: 
https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/92511-wincompose-a-robust-compose-key-for-windows/


The sharp symbol is made by Compose ##.♯
The flat symbol is made by Compose # b♭
And a natural is made by Compose # f♮

Note that the letters are case-sensitive!

You can also make them by Unicode. I don't know how to do Unicode in 
Windows, but the Unicodes for the symbols are


sharp: 266F

flat: 266D

natural:   266E

You can make lots of other things with Compose: all the diacritical 
marks for European languages, currency symbols, fractions., some Greek 
letters.


Go to:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable

Hope that helps!  --doug

Re: download, but unable to use

[Doug]

On 08/07/2016 02:13 PM, herma reeskamp wrote:

the programm is now downloaded. when i click nothing appears that looks like 
writing a document myself.


I lost my access to microsoft 2003 word (do not know how to recover, as lost CD 
and code, shared with a friend jears ago).

I do not see any possibility to start writing a new document with this 
programm, it does in no way look like word. I can select /open only documenst 
of other  people,  i do not want to read them!

also no possibility to access my own word documents alas. what could be done? 
How could I get into my own struff? how to open a new page in this ?programm? 
Is it at all possible to have ones own documents or is everything open to 
anybody?


I am totally lost

You might want to look into SoftMaker Office. There is a free trial 
version which didn't expire, and had most of the serviceability of the 
full (paid) version.


I like it well enough that I bought it. I use Linux, which has a number 
of free word-processing softwares, including OpenOffice and LibreOffice, 
and at least two or


three others.  SoftMaker Office is an office suite that includes 
TextMaker, the word-processor, PlanMaker, a spreadsheet, and 
Presentations, a slide-maker. The


word-processor works with all the modern and recent formats of Microsoft 
products, and can read /and/ write them, which Apache cannot do. It 
doesn't force you to


learn "Styles" to use it, which was the biggest selling factor for me. 
(Altho you can set up some styles, if you insist.) The manufacturers are 
very helpful to those who


have bought the program. I have no financial or other interest in the 
company, which is in Germany.


--doug

RE: book covering the fine points of advanced wordprocessing

[Doug Hovelson]

That's a good resource!

-Original Message-
From: TN Patriot [mailto:irgu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:01 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: book covering the fine points of advanced wordprocessing

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 11:15:52 -0400
DaveMainwaring  wrote:

> I am looking for book covering the fine points of advanced 
> word-processing applications vs classic typewriters.
> 
> A book that explains all the items in the pull down menus, view, 
> encoding, language, preferences, style configurator, importing, 
> exporting, plug ins, and the new spacing practices (leading, 
> kerning,all the niceties of OO

Not a book per se, but this site may be able to help also...

http://tutorialsforopenoffice.org/

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Re: Double line spacing

[Doug]

On 07/31/2016 11:58 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 22:38 31/07/2016 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 07/31/2016 06:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
spacing ...


Second, you should let your institution know that the world no 
longer uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept 
of double spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed 
output is restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no 
such restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output 
produced by word processors - though it is possible to choose that 
lines are separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


There is a very good reason for double-spaced text in any document 
submitted for publication or for scholarly discussion or grading. In 
the case of publication, it allows the editor to make corrections; in 
the second instance, it allows the reader and or the professor to 
make useful comments on particular portions of the text. In the first 
instance, I speak from some small experience as the long-term editor 
of a newsletter which runs from 12 to 20 pages per issue, of which 
there are 10 per year. Altho I edit on the computer, it is easier to 
deal with a double-spaced text as to finding and "repairing" a given 
section of the manuscript.


Sorry, but you miss my point; sorry if I wasn't clear. Of course you 
are right that it can be convenient to have *extra* space between the 
lines of text in a printed document - and the original questioner will 
want to provide this, as is required by his institution. But the idea 
of *double* spacing in particular is surely a hangover from typewriter 
technology, where vertical line positioning was limited to complete 
line heights (or sometimes half that). Both commercial printers and 
word processors are capable of much finer gradations of spacing.


Commercially printed material sometimes has additional spacing between 
lines, called leading (pronounced "ledding" as in Pb and itself a term 
that is a hangover from hot-metal technology), but this does not need 
to be in whole line heights. A printer may add two-point leading to, 
say, ten-point text, and will describe this as printed "ten on twelve 
point". Again, word processors allow similar fine choices about 
vertical spacing. There are other choices than Double in Writer's 
"Line spacing" setting and the effect is very flexible.


I feel that word processor users sometimes think in terms of 
typewriter technology, and I took the opportunity to suggest that 
wider choices were available here (but then provided the answer 
requested, I hope).


(BTW: /Manuscript/ implies that it was written /by hand/ as opposed 
to being typed!)


Indeed, from the Latin fourth declension "manus" - hand. But I'm not 
sure of your point here. You seem to be suggesting that someone 
misused the word "manuscript", but the conversation was not about 
manuscripts and you were the only person to introduce the term.


Brian Barker

I won't disagree with you. Yes, you can set up any line spacing you want 
in a word processor, but what is commonly
called double spacing, which amounts to skipping a line interval 
throughout a document, is a convenient means to

leave space for editing or correcting (by hand, sometimes).
I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a 
term-paper or a dissertation might frequently
be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin 
would be of interest. To those interested in
language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine 
ending, is feminine, not only in Latin, but in
Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German 
(die Hand).


--doug

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Re: Double line spacing

[Doug]

On 07/31/2016 06:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
spacing on each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. Rather 
than hit the enter button twice each time especially as I could be 
writing long sentences and not wanting to interrupt my thought 
process can I set any part of OO to automatically do double line 
spacing.



/snip/
Second, you should let your institution know that the world no longer 
uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept of double 
spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed output is 
restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no such 
restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output produced 
by word processors - though it is possible to choose that lines are 
separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


There is a very good reason for double-spaced text in any document 
submitted for publication or for scholarly discussion or grading. In the 
case of publication, it allows the editor to make corrections; in the 
second instance, it allows the reader
and or the professor to make useful comments on particular portions of 
the text.  In the first instance, I speak from some
small experience as the long-term editor of a newsletter which runs from 
12 to 20 pages per issue, of which there are
10 per year. Altho I edit on the computer, it is easier to deal with a 
double-spaced text as to finding and "repairing" a

given section of the manuscript.

(BTW: /Manuscript/ implies that it was written /by hand/ as opposed to 
being typed!)


--doug

Re: Opening docx files

[Doug]

On 06/30/2016 08:56 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:

On 6/30/2016 12:11 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

hi.
yes, it can open .docx files without any problem.
but saving as docx is not possible currently.


Saving as .docx was not supported by version 3 either.

Dale Erwin

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If you want or need to save and send as docx, take a look at TextMaker, 
from SoftMaker Office. Part of an office suite that includes the word 
processor, a spreadsheet, and a presentation app.


There's a free cut-down version, and a pay version. I think it's worth 
paying for, and have done so. Present  version is 2016. TextMaker reads 
/and writes/ a whole batch of formats. And it doesn't


make you study up and learn a lot of crap about formatting to get your 
work done!


--doug

Re: #############################################

[Doug]

On 06/15/2016 04:41 PM, Wade Smart wrote:

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Sean Keough  wrote:

Hello,
I am in dire need of some direction.  I have been pouring myself into a diary 
for the past 6 months on an open office word document.  Lots of day by day 
details which I need to have safe and secure.  A few days ago I opened up the 
program, clicked on the file and instead of 15 pages of diary I have 15 pages 
of hashtags.  
##
   and so on.
What can I do?  How do I recover the doc?  I have tired a number of things and 
none of them did anything.  I just can't believe that it would just be gone 
like that with no recourse.Please respond quickly as I need to continue to 
journal.
Thank you, Sean Keough
636.734.1009

Some direction -> Subject line. It should describe the problem.
This one - it indicates spam.

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Wade, can you tell us what kind of spam would create this problem, and 
what (if anything) could be done to identify and block it?  I'm not 
using OO, but I suppose this sort of attack could


bollix up any program.  Or does it only attack OO?

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Re: spreadsheet program

[Doug]

On 06/13/2016 06:39 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:



On 13/06/16 10:01 PM, Carol wrote:
I had used your Open Office word processing program for a long time, 
but your spreadsheet program had serious problems.

And what are the serious problems?

I believe I wrote to you about it but never got an answer.
You believe you wrote, but I can't find your question in the archive. 
We can't answer questions we didn't received
And then for whatever reason, the word processing program put 
everything into a spreadsheet,
Word processing programs don't put anything into a spreadsheet, but 
users sometimes do.

  so with no response from you,

We don't answer questions that were not received

I just removed the whole thing.

So, problem solved
I do have an older version of Microsoft Works, but I get a not enough 
space sometimes when I want to use the word processing program.

Enough space for what?
It could be Windows 10, I don’t remember when I first started having 
problems with it. anyway, I was happy with your software originally, 
but had too many problems later on.
If you can't remember it could be either a long time ago or, but then 
there was no Windows 10, or you have a short memory.

Is it compatible with Windows 10?

You removed it already, so this is an obsolete question.


To the poster who is having trouble with Apache and M/S Works: Have you 
tried the office suite from SoftMakerOffice? TextMaker is the word 
processor and PlanMaker is the spread sheet.


The program is relatively inexpensive for an office suite. I believe 
there is a free trial version--there is for Linux, so I assume there is 
for windows. I've been using the SoftMaker suite


for some time now. It's not fussy like OpenOffice. It reads and writes a 
whole bunch of protocols.


--doug

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Re: side by side view

[Doug]

On 06/08/2016 10:47 AM, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Jun 7, 2016, at 23:28, Ariya Subasingha  
wrote:

Since I prefer to use Open office writer. please let me know whether there is a 
way to view 2 documents side by side in open office writer.

One way to do this would be to open each document in a separate window.

  —
jt - j...@jt-mj.net

O Famous Last Words #29: "It's perfectly safe. Let me show you..."




I like this famous last words line: "Watch this!"

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Re: written in stone

[Doug]

On 05/21/2016 08:40 PM, Ron Patterson wrote:
Brian  -  problem solved - albeit not the way you would like - but now 
you can sleep nights.


I simply opened a new spreadsheet and copied columns A thru E to it 
but not the problem column F.  Then I deleted the old spread sheet.  
Viola.


Thanks for all your help.




A viola is a fat fiddle. What you really want is voilà!  Don't forget 
the exclamation point!


--doug

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Re: bug

[Doug]

On 05/18/2016 06:12 PM, Ron Patterson wrote:

Thanks Jim - that makes sense.  But what is RTFM please?


Read The Fine Manual.  "Fine" is a euphemism.

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Re: Thunderbird

[Doug]

On 05/11/2016 10:06 AM, toki wrote:

Jack Waters wrote:


Can anyone tell me anything about Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird 
list?

Some of us can write 10,000 page epistles on Thunderbird, which, upon
reading, won't even approach use-cases, or specific scenarios you might
have.


I want to see if I can set up my groups and all of my addresses in

Thunderbird
You can setup address books for Thunderbird.
However, the file format used for address books is defiantly not human
readable, and, arguably, not machine readable. Outside of very old
versions of Firefox, oldish versions of SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, and,
allegedly, LibreOffice, but not Apache OpenOffice, nothing can correctly
read the address book.
Adding insult to injury,
  is not very good at importing foreign address books.

You can setup groups for Thunderbird.
I've forgotten the associated caveats. :(


and stop using Outlook.

Whether or not Thunderbird can replace Outlook for you, depends upon
what you use Outlook for, and how you use it for that purpose.

jonathon


A program called FossaMail is a fork of an older version of Thunderbird, 
available for Windows and Linux. It is possible to print the address 
book out of FossaMail.
Also, it will not change every six weeks, like Thunderbird!  I have been 
using it on Linux for a couple of months, and I like it, having gotten a 
bit PO'd at Thunderbird.

Try it and see for yourself--it's free.

--doug

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OppenOffice converted all my files to another format

[Doug Wilson]

Hello,

I have just spent the last 20 minutes navigating your help and contact pages 
and can make no sense of them, so I am contacting you directly in hopes of 
finding 1. an explanation, and 2. a solution to the following:

Recently I downloaded your free open office software so I could view client 
files I received by email. It works great.

The problem is that all my original MSWORD template documents have been 
converted to the .rtf open office format. WORD no longer opens any of them. I 
certainly did not do this, noir would I have granted open oiffice permission to 
do so.

So what’s going on? I want my files returned.

Thank you.

Doug Wilson
www.amethystboutique.com
https://www.facebook.com/AmethystBoutique.NS

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Re: a question about docx files.

[doug]

On 03/15/2016 05:07 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Mar 15, 2016, at 13:36, Sony Cyriac  wrote:

BTW,  This is not an advisory or promotional thread of LibreOffice. I too
find that offensive. Also, It's generally known that doc is a standard
format, but when docx is required, it has to be used.

In general, I have found lurking beartraps when converting presentations from 
one application to another.

I had a simple one today that I initially did in Keynote on my Mac. I exported 
it as .pptx and opened it in Open Office.  The title slide was mangled [the 
lower line was inserted at the left of the slide - vertically.  I created a new 
one in OO and then saved it as PPT.  I then opened it up in Office 2012 on the 
mac and found another formatting issue where a table had gotten mangled [column 
widths 'adjusted'].

  —
jt - j...@jt-mj.net

Men are nearly always willing to believe what they wish - Julius Caesar




I think you are going to have to save the file as a .pdf, and then move 
the pdf to the destination and open it with the app for that system.

That ought to preserve everything. Kinda clumsy, but ought to be fool-proof.

--doug

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Re: Euro Symbol...?

[doug]

On 02/28/2016 01:33 PM, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:

Hi,

I use Apache OO 4.1.2 in OS/2 (eCS22b2). I cannot find a euro symbol 
to insert into a document in insert--special characters in any of my 
fonts. Is this because I don't know where to look or because eCS 
doesn't supply a font with a euro or something else?


Martin Rosenfeld

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You don't say what kind of system you're using. You need to implement a 
Compose key. Many Linux distros--maybe all-- have the capability of
assigning a compose key to one of the keyboard keys--right-alt is a good 
choice, or right Windows, if you have one. On Windows, there are
a number of programs many of them free, that will let you assign a 
Compose key. One is AllChars.


With a Compose key, you can create a whole slew of different symbols 
using the sequence: Compose key1 key2. Many of the combinations
are obvious. To create a Euro sign, €, you hit Compose, c, =, (without 
the commas) and there you are. All the diacritic marks of European
languages are there, plus some common Greek letters, like µ (mu), the 
German ß, the degree sign for 75°F, other foreign currency signs, like £,

¥, and the US ¢,  ¶ and many others.

--doug

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Re: Err: 508 When trying to Auto Replicate/Transfer data between two sheets.

[Doug]

On 01/29/2016 08:03 PM, Vince B. wrote:

TNX Keith:

I am rather sure that your info will help me; I am certain that a new script 
for reading vision is what I also need, since having cataracts re moved!



Regards,
Vince


I haven't been following this thread--I don't even know what you folks are 
writing about--but I accidentally saw this first line. I have had two cataracts 
_replaced_.
When the cataract was removed, it was replaced with a plastic lens whose 
characteristics were designed by my ophthalmologist. I still need glasses for 
close work, reading, etc, but I
can actually see better than I could see before I got the cataracts. So if 
Vince B. can't do that, maybe he should see another ophthalmologist! Something 
doesn't sound right, there.

Good luck, Vince!

--doug

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Re: Windows 11

[Doug]

On 01/15/2016 03:55 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

There is, as yet, no Windows 11.  If your question was meant to refer to
Windows 10, which does exist, AOO is reportedin many posts on this list,
be compatabl with Windows 10.   I have not, yet, personally used AOO 4.1.2
with Win 10.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Richard Beeston 
wrote:


Dear all

Does anyone know if Open Office is compatible with Windows 11.

Thanks
It seems to me that I recently heard that there will be no Windows 11. I 
guess they are just going to keep upgrading Windows 10 every time you 
try to shut down!


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Re: Email

[Doug]

On 01/11/2016 12:40 PM, John Kurcz wrote:

I GIVE UP.  Tried SITES looking for a way to set up email.

My computer repair company,  two friends who know a lot about computers, all 
gave up trying to find a way to email a document from Open Office to someone.
Microsoft documents no trouble sending a document email but cannot on Open 
Office.

I updated from XP to Windows 7.  The company that made the update tried but 
could not find a way to install an email account.

I am hoping you have a “SIMPLE” 1,2,3, installation directions.

I would like to use my AOL account but I am flexible.

John Jay

I don't use OO, but it seems to me that the easiest way to email a document is just to 
attach it to a regular email, like a Thunderbird post. You're going to name the document 
anyway when you save it--I assume you _are_ going to save it, or you'd probably just 
write it in an email to begin with--so pay attention to what directory 
("folder" in Microsoftese) you save the file in, and attach the file to the 
email and don't worry about
some feature that doesn't work.

--doug

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Re: Spell Check Problems

[Doug]

On 12/08/2015 11:10 AM, Muench and Company wrote:

Hello,

I’d like to open by saying that we love open office!  We have been using it for 
years, and it is very user friendly and works great for our small office.  
However, yesterday I started having a problem with my spell check.  It has 
EVERYTHING underlined as if it is spelled wrong.  I thought it was probably 
just a glitch, so waited until I re-started my computer this morning, but it 
was still doing it.  I actually un-installed Open Office, and re-installed it; 
but this did not correct the problem either.  I’ve even updated my language 
pack, but that is not working either.  Do you have any advice about how to 
correct this error?

Thank you for any help you can give me!

Sincerely,
Brenda Sinton
Muench and Company Accounting

Erase your profile.

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RE: centering on documents

[Doug Schorpp]

It worked. Thank you.

> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:25:43 +
> From: ofarr...@iol.ie
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> CC: dougscho...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: centering on documents
> 
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:30:21 -0600
> Doug Schorpp  wrote:
> 
> > Just recently, I have had problems opening a new document in a word form. 
> > Prevsiouly, I had no problems. The open portion to cut and paste in 
> > information and then write in it, is fixed to the far right and cannot be 
> > centered in a workable way. I found a way to move it more toward center but 
> > it is a very small window at only 28 percent. As I try to enlarge it, it 
> > moves back right into a hidden portion. It may be an easy fix but I have 
> > not been able to find it. It would be easier to actually talk to someone 
> > who could talk me through it, if possible. 
> > 
> 
> I think what you need to do is this:
> Three little icons at bottom right of OpenOffice window. Click on left most 
> (single page icon). Then click in the % box at the very right corner and 
> choose a scaling factor that suits you.
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
  

centering on documents

[Doug Schorpp]

Just recently, I have had problems opening a new document in a word form. 
Prevsiouly, I had no problems. The open portion to cut and paste in information 
and then write in it, is fixed to the far right and cannot be centered in a 
workable way. I found a way to move it more toward center but it is a very 
small window at only 28 percent. As I try to enlarge it, it moves back right 
into a hidden portion. It may be an easy fix but I have not been able to find 
it. It would be easier to actually talk to someone who could talk me through 
it, if possible. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Open Office and Windows 10

[Doug Wendling]

Thanks... I'm using the latest version, as well.
​

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:45 AM, David Rivers  wrote:

> Doug Wendling wrote:
>
>> Have been using Open Office for years...on XP and 7.
>>
>> Considering moving to Windows 10... Will Open Office work on 10 and my
>> older docs/spreadsheets, etc. still work for me?
>>
>> Thanks for all you do!
>>
> I've been using Windows 10 for a couple of months now with no problems and
> full access to all my old files ...but I transitioned this time from
> Windows 8. Should be no problem though, transitioning from Windows 7as long
> as your Open Office is up to date.  I'm running OO 4.1.1  on Windows 10 Pro.
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Open Office and Windows 10

[Doug Wendling]

Have been using Open Office for years...on XP and 7.

Considering moving to Windows 10... Will Open Office work on 10 and my older 
docs/spreadsheets, etc. still work for me?

Thanks for all you do!

Re: thesaurus does not work - Synonyms does not work.

[Doug]

On 09/07/2015 02:48 PM, JBrooks wrote:
There used to a much earlier version when the thesaurus actually 
worked,  The past two or three versions of Open Office has caused that 
this no longer works.
I could right mouse on Synonyms and a list was displayed and now there 
is NONE displayed.  Is this forever broken or can this be fixed?


Do you have Artha on your system? Very nice program. I keep it in my 
panel, for use as a dictionary and thesaurus.


--doug

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Re: CHECKING ACCOUNTS: Read-Only After Windows 10 Upgrade

[doug]

On 08/14/2015 11:48 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

I have some follow-up questions to add to those I requested in a previous post 
(forwarded to you separately).


Just a quick question: how are permissions assigned and changed in 
Windows 7, 8.1, 10?

I'm not afraid of (and would prefer) command line instructions.

--doug

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Re: THINGS YOU DON'T WANT ON OUR PC'S

[doug]

On 07/28/2015 12:36 PM, ronchampi...@gmail.com wrote:

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:


I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY AND ALL COMMENTS ON THESE QUESTIONS WHICH I’M SURE THAT 
I’M NOT THE ONLY PERSON WITH THIS PROBLEM.


THANKS, IN ADVANCE TO ALL THAT RESPOND!


TWO QUESTIONS:


  HOW CAN I STOP THE AUTOMATIC OPERATIONS OF MY CURSOR, WITHOUT DOING IT WITH 
MY HAND?

Get your computer repaired, or get a new mouse/track-ball.




   2.  WHY DOES A CUSTOMER OF A NEW PC GET SO MUCH ‘UNWANTED CRAP’ ON THEIR 
NEW

PC THAT THEY DO NOT WANT?


Because they buy a Windows PC. Get a machine with Linux installed!





Sent from Windows Mail



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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user

[Doug]

On 06/26/2015 12:16 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:



As I mentioned before, I have given up on OO and LO becasue of the style 
problem. However, it occurs to me that the style problem could be easily fixed 
(by the devs) if there was a simple
bypass arrangement that could be invoked when you want to evade the style 
momentarily--say ALT-F12 or something like that, which would allow you to type 
whatever you want, where you want it.
It could be set to remain in force until the end of line, or perhaps until the 
end of paragraph. Or perhaps both options--say, one under F11 and the other 
under F12.

--doug


 What do you mean by type whatever you want and where you want it? Any 
document I have seen requires much more organization than this. In the end the 
document will have everything in its place. Otherwise, it will make no sense to 
the reader. For example, you would want the discussion about a chart to be next 
to it. You would not want it it be 5 pages apart.
  Specific examples of typing whatever you want where you want would a great help. 
Without specifics, there can be no solution to the problem. Then it becomes like a man 
telling a doctor, "I don't feel good" over the telephone. The doctor is not 
likely to tell the man what he needs to do. The doctor needs specifics.

Dan


A style is a strait-jacket! If you should want to, say, indent something where the style 
does not allow it, you have to invoke some other style. Or maybe double indent it. Or 
lots of things that "break" the
style that is presently in force. This strait-jacket is something I encountered 
a few times, and decided that never again will I try to use this software. I 
just don't need the hassle!  However, if there were
to be a means of exiting the strait-jacket for a short space--a line or the end 
of a paragraph, say, or until one deliberately returns to the style, then it 
might become a more user-friendly environment.
In the meantime, I am happy with TextMaker in Linux, and WordPerfect in 
Windows, and short of _at least_ my suggested modifications, I will never 
bother with OO or LO again. And to make things perfectly
clear, I don't give a hoot whether the software I use is FOSS or proprietary or 
free or reasonably priced, if it makes my computing life simpler and more 
effective.

--doug


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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user

[Doug]

On 06/26/2015 11:26 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 06/25/2015 08:26 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote:

What do you do if most every document you create with your word processor (WP) is in a different "style," & you don't know its 
"style" until you finish creating it?  For my personal use, I create a lot of specialized lists & inventories w/ my WP, in addition to 
creating documents & written articles in many & varied  formats.  To address the responder of my initial posting, let me say:  I've invested 
a lot of time in trying to become proficient in Writer "styles" w/o much success.  Also, I bought every reference I could find on 'Writer,' 
but still couldn't get that Writer WP to produce the documents I needed in the format I wanted.  What is more, when I was required to re-edit a 
Writer document at a later time, I found the re-editing often undid all the formatting I thought I had built into the Writer document.  I don't mind 
investing in computer programming technology that serves my needs.  (For a "selfie" "aside,"  I started in the computer business 
in 1961, & was, at
various times, fluent in 7 ea. different computer languages. So I know what it means to "invest" one's time 
& effort to acquire proficiency w/ a particular software product.)  I decided w/ Writer that I wasn't making 
progress getting my work done. Therefore, I decided to invest my time & eanergy elsewhere. In consistency w/ my 
previous experience,  I chose to invest my time & energy in the so-called "tried & true"--in this 
case MS Word.  My priority has always been on getting my work done efficiently, & not on learning to become 
proficient w/ any particular software product.

Best wishes,

Anthony J. Rudgers
Orlando, FL
Posted: June 25, 2015; 8:25 pm




As I mentioned before, I have given up on OO and LO becasue of the style 
problem. However, it occurs to me that the style problem could be easily fixed 
(by the devs) if there was a simple
bypass arrangement that could be invoked when you want to evade the style 
momentarily--say ALT-F12 or something like that, which would allow you to type 
whatever you want, where you want it.
It could be set to remain in force until the end of line, or perhaps until the 
end of paragraph. Or perhaps both options--say, one under F11 and the other 
under F12.

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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user

[Doug]

On 06/25/2015 09:57 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 21:11, Andrew Pitonyak  wrote:


I still have a  great fondness for Word Perfect.  The "Reveal Codes"
function gave me total control.  Even more so than Micro$loth Word.


I totally agree - Reveal Codes was a superb and valuable feature that SHOULD 
have been incorporated into OO.


OO wouldn't be able to use it. The first time you tried to enter something you found in 
Reveal Codes it would violate the damn "style!"


  —
jt - j...@jt-mj.net

When in doubt tell the truth. -Mark Twain





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Re: Question re/ using Open Office

[Doug]

On 06/25/2015 09:53 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 20:29, Richard Fox  wrote:

OK. That works. But it's kind of a back-handed approach. What I was trying to do was to 
double-click on an xlsx document itself, right click on "open with" and have it 
open with OO. It really SHOULD since I have both MS Office and OO installed. But for some 
reason, my system doesn't seem to recognize that OO is installed.


As may have been suggested [this assumes you are using windoze], you need to 
change the defaults for the default app to open a file when you click on it.  
See the previous posts in this thread [I don't use MS windoze and don't 
remember the exact procedure].



Windows will work like your Linux: open the OO program, go to the file prompt, 
and find the file you want to open and click on it.

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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user

[Doug]

On 06/25/2015 08:57 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

Anthony -

I'm with you.  The whole "styles" approach is ridiculous.

I still have a  great fondness for Word Perfect.  The "Reveal Codes"
function gave me total control.  Even more so than Micro$loth Word.

Sadly, for all practical purposes, Word Perfect is functionally dead.


WP just came out with a new version, that can read and write all the
MS versions as well as its own. Standard edition is $200.

http://www.wordperfect.com/us/product/office-suite/?promo=2968&gclid=CKTG_qSsrMYCFVg8gQodrLcB-Q

However, "home and student" edition is $50!

http://www.amazon.com/WordPerfect-Office-X7-Home-Student/dp/B00JC5Y6YA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435287173&sr=8-1&keywords=wordperfect+x7

I haven't researched the difference, but I'm reasonably sure that you'd get at 
least the complete word processor for your 50 bucks.

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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user

[Doug]

On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote:

On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote:

/snip/

I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find 
that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso.  I struggled 
against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to 
learn how to use them.

Dale Erwin


Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a "free" word processor. 
I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly.

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Re: Problems auto correct writer

[Doug]

On 06/23/2015 02:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2015-06-22 22:20 GMT+02:00 Jos Smeets :


I've recently found myself needing to a more advance text processor
then notepad, so I've turn to your open office writer. However I find
myself unable to use for one main reason. The auto correct function. I
can't seem to fully turn it off. I've gone to "extra -> options for
auto correct", and turned ever option off. I've looked through every
setting I could find to find more things to turn off, but it keeps
changing things. I found a remark online suggesting the "makeup/layout
-> autocorrect -> during input" option would turn it on and off, but
it doesn't matter if it's checked or unchecked it keeps meddling with
what I type. This mainly manifests itself in trying to remove 0's in
numbers, dates and trying to make summeries wen I don't want it or
modifying the ones I make myself.

Could you please tell him how to turn every possible, every last,
every single one function of the auto correct off. Forever.

What is the point of using writer for it's more advanced layout
options, wen I don't have full control over it? I want to be able to
type and do whatever I want. Type in any number, any word or sentence
even bash my head randomly on the keyboard without the program trying
to dictate its idea of writing and layout to me. The only option that
is useful is having the program underline spelling mistakes and
correcting them when I ask for it and that part works fine. The rest
is down right terrible and prevents me from properly using the
program.

(I have might have gotten some of the menu terms a bit wrong as I've
translated from a Dutch version of the program.)

I'd appreciate a quick, detailed and useful response.



Doesn't seem like Writer is the right tool for you. Maybe try Emacs…?



That's a smart-ass answer for sure! Jos Smeets needs a user-friendly
word processor, not Emacs! (I also got tired of having the text-processing
software decide what my output should look like.)He didn't mention whether
he's using Windows or Linux. If Windows, then WordPerfect is user-friendly
and obtainable for a reasonable price. Both Windows and Linux can use TextMaker,
which is part of SoftMaker Office, also not very expensive. Neither one is free,
altho S/MO has a freebie which has not had very good reviews. The paid
version is very nice, and I use it all the time, in Linux. (There is a
separate version of SoftMaker for Windows and for Linux.) In all cases, the
lower-cost versions are for home, not business use.

NB: There will be a new version of SoftMaker Office for Linux in the near 
future.
The new version for Windows is available now.

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Re: Users of OpenOffice in the Miami, Ft. Lauderdale area?

[Doug]

On 06/03/2015 11:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Did you not read the HELP_DECRYPT.TXT file?

This has nothing to do with OpenOffice.

Your computer was attacked by some means and all of your important files have 
been encrypted.  To have them be decrypted, you must pay a ransom, as specified 
in that .TXT file.

This is a known attack.  There are a variety of ways that it can reach your 
computer.  It could have arrived some time ago, and it only triggered at the 
time you noticed.

The painful reality is explained in this post, which describes the CryptoWall 
attack and one of the ways you might have encountered it:
<http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/cryptowall-ransomware-information>.

In general, the encrypted files cannot be decrypted.  It is important to have 
backups or earlier versions that have not been encrypted and restore with those 
once you remove the attack software itself.

/snip/

Is it known whether any of the usual anti-malware programs is effective against 
this, and if so, which ones?

I would assume when you mention backup, you mean _removable_ backup, like a USB 
dongle or a USB plug-in hard drive. Wouldn't any text file on the internal hd 
be infected?

I might suggest that users of Linux don't seem to have those problems; I only 
use Windows about 3% of the time, and I have a couple of anti-malware programs 
on the Windows partition. So far, so good (knock wood!)

Written from PCLinuxOS--doug

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Re: NUMBERING

[Doug]

On 05/27/2015 08:31 PM, James Plante wrote:

There is a simple way to turn off all formatting: Use NotePad or TextEdit.


/snip/

There ought to be a *simple* way to turn off all

the formatting crap and let the user think for himself.


/snip/

Not familiar with TextEdit, but I don't think NotePad will save in a format that
word processors use--.doc, .odt, .xml, and so on.

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Re: NUMBERING

[Doug]

On 05/27/2015 05:42 PM, John Hart wrote:

Animals and people get angry and lash out at those trying to help them. As 
funny as the complaint and the response are,
the list's purpose would be better addressed by answering the ANGRY user's 
implied question,
how to use the numbering system!

jrh


Your point is well taken, but the original poster's complaint is valid. There 
ought to be a *simple* way to turn off all
the formatting crap and let the user think for himself.

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Re: Spell check

[Doug]

On 05/24/2015 09:15 PM, Maurice Howe wrote:

Why not add a "Reset user profile" tab (perhaps on the TOOLS menu, near the
"Spelling & grammar" tab) that invokes a routine to locate a user's
Profile, rename it, and tell the user to do a Restart?

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:10 PM, elderdanlewis 
wrote:


Has anyone renamed the user profile, restarted AOO,and then compared the
renamed profile with the newly created one? (There should be a difference,
but it would be rather time consuming to find any. There is the possibility
of more than one difference. )

Dan



It should not be time-consuming. Use the diff command in a terminal.
See man diff. It might be a good idea to copy the file somewhere (using .orig)
right after you install it and it works, so if you run into the problem, you
can then see what happened to screw it up.

--doug

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Re: Spell check

[Doug]

On 05/22/2015 06:49 PM, Toni Chudilowsky wrote:

I have tried every forum.  I see others have this problem but cannot fix.
My spellchecker underlines every word in red. Have tried to reinstall.
Tried to change my user ID but the terms are to technical for me and I'm
afraid to delete anything I'm not sure of.  PLEASE HELP!  I registered
with your forum but it said I was too new to post anything.


Since you're a newbie, you haven't seen the advice,which appears about
every two or three months as to how to fix this Delete your profile.

One would think that with the constant problem this causes almost
everybody who uses that software, that the developers would fix it,
but for some reason they don't.

OO and LO have some features that are hard to find in competing products,
but they obviously have some "features" that can only be considered bugs.

Personally, I only use one of these close cousins when no other word-
processor will do the particular job. Maybe someday when it becomes more
user friendly. . . .

--doug

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Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[Doug]

On 05/10/2015 03:20 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2015-05-08 22:43 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Eaton :


Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at
least 15 years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember,
anyway).  I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite a
bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying to
copy Microsoft.  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for
them.  Why not try to make things better than Microsoft?  If you just took
these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a bit, that would
pretty much do the trick.


/snip/


Much of what you described seems to be related to your operating system
rather than Apache OpenOffice. You are free to install another operating
system if you don't like the one you have. I also complained at lot about
that a long time ago, but finally I did something about it and installed
another operating system. Never looked back since then. Unfortunately the
one I installed also got worse over the years, so now I am planning to
install yet another one, I'm not quite sure which yet though. I think Arch
would be fine for me, at least I would give it a try.

I tried some of the things that you described, but I don't really get it.
For instance, when I right click on a spreadsheet, paste special is there,
you said it was not.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



Have you looked at PCLinuxOS, Johnny?  It's pretty conservative, and it
doesn't have systemd, thank heavens! It also has a really helpful Forum.
Now pay me, Tex!  (Just kidding--the endorsement is completely free!)

--doug

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Re: No Longer Using OpenOffice

[Doug]

On 04/26/2015 03:16 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2015-04-26 8:37 GMT+02:00 Blankenship Glenn :


After working hours on my project, then having OpenOffice freeze up and
shut down, reopen, “recover” my documents, but then the document not
actually being recovered, this will be the last time I use this
application.  And, yes, I had it set to auto-backup every 15 minutes, yet
somehow it recovered no work I had done today AT ALL!  When I view the
document properties, it shows last being modified 17 hours ago, when I
actually completed it about 5 hours ago!!  Frustrated beyond belief!!


This mailing list is, as far as I understand, for two main purposes. Asking
for help and helping other people. I can't see that this post asks for any
kind of help. Neither can I see that it is likely to ever help anyone, so
exactly why did you post it?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



I think Glenn was asking for help!  I suggested a different office suite,
so perhaps I have helped him.

--doug

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Re: No Longer Using OpenOffice

[Doug]

On 04/26/2015 02:37 AM, Blankenship Glenn wrote:

After working hours on my project, then having OpenOffice freeze up and shut 
down, reopen, “recover” my documents, but then the document not actually being 
recovered, this will be the last time I use this application.  And, yes, I had 
it set to auto-backup every 15 minutes, yet somehow it recovered no work I had 
done today AT ALL!  When I view the document properties, it shows last 
being modified 17 hours ago, when I actually completed it about 5 hours ago!!  
Frustrated beyond belief!!
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Try TextMaker from the SoftMaker Office suite. There is a paid and a 
free version. I have the paid version, and I like it. (I have no 
connection with the company.)


--doug

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Re: WordPerfect Office 11

[Doug]

On 04/21/2015 03:43 PM, fdh...@aol.com wrote:

I have been using WordPerfect Office 11 for sometime now and it is an  old
program.  Is it possible to transfer the data that I have on  WPO11  to Open
Office with out a great deal of problems.
  
Frank

If you haven't been using OpenOffice I suggest you try using it for a
while before you switch. You may find that it has "features" you won't
like! And features WP has that OO does not, and you may miss them.

(If you don't mind spending a little money, you might find that you
would like the products from SoftMaker Office better. I have no
financial or other interest in SoftMaker, but I do like TextMaker for
a word processor.) Versions for Linux and Windows. There is a
stripped-down freebie you could try it out with.

--doug












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Re: Do you have productive tools to:

[Doug]

On 04/14/2015 06:48 AM, Alan B wrote:

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:19 AM, shirley kirkpatrick 
wrote:


reinstall HP DeskJet 842C so will print  with
  MS Windows, Word 2003/4 installed into Dell desktop Optiplex 320


Hello Shirley - for help with the HP printer you will need to contact HP.

If help is needed with with Word or Windows contact Microsoft. Keep in mind
Microsoft ends support for older products. The version of Word referred to
is 2003, support for that has ended. The version of Windows isn't declared
but, if it's Windows XP, support for that has also ended.

If help is needed with Apache OpenOffice please state what help is needed
with that program.


Almost surely the HP 842C will print with your Windows. Why not just try
to install the printer on your Dell and see if either
a) The computer finds the right printer by itself, or
b) The computer prints out a list of HP printers and lets you select one.
HP has probably never made a printer that wouldn't work with Windows!

--doug

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Re: word Perfect file documents

[Doug]

On 04/06/2015 12:08 AM, Ralph Manns wrote:

Sirs.

When I first used Open Office many years ago I was able to open and use  all  
of my word perfect files.  A year or two ago
I tried to update to a newer versions of Open Office, but could not access my 
old files.  I uninstalled the new version and reinstalled  anold 3.0 (best 
guess) version.  At that time I could still use and convert my WordPerfect 
files.  Somehow recently, likely an upgrade to OpenOffice 3.4.1, I l again lost 
the ability to recover  WordPerfect items.  I appear to merely get a few lines 
of code. when I ask my open office to open these WP items. I am able to  
recover and use the odt text items created since I first started using Open 
Office.

Can you help?

Ralph Manns
fishinfoserv...@gmail.com


I assume that you're running Linux, rather than Windows. Either way, 
WordPerfect 12 is not very expensive, if you can
find a copy, and it will run on Linux in a somewhat fussy manner, but it _will_ 
run in wine.

--doug

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Re: OMBUDSMAN PETITION-CESAR M. ALBA VS LLOYDS BANK PLC.DOCX

[Doug]

On 04/04/2015 04:13 AM, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

From the caption of the initial request it looks like the document may have

been saved as a .docx file.

Which can be problematical


TextMaker from SoftmakerOffice can read .docx files. I don't know if the free 
version can, but it might.

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Re: Thesaurus

[Doug]

On 03/09/2015 09:10 AM, granma...@comcast.net wrote:

I seemed to have lost my Thesaurus

Sheila Frenchman



If you can live with one that's not tied tightly to your word processor, look 
at Artha.

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Re: Autokorrektur ooo 4.1.1.

[Doug]

On 02/25/2015 01:47 PM, christian zettl wrote:

Hallo,

Ich kann die Autokorrektur bei ooo nicht verwenden. Das englische Dictionary 
ist aktiviert und hat auch das ABC Häkchen. Ich bekomme jedoch nur rote Wellen 
unter dem Text.

Bitte um Hilfe.

Vielen Danke






Gesendet von Windows Mail


Ich glaube daß Sie müßen Ihr "Profile" entfernen.

Besten Glück--doug

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Re: odt-file, ascii filter, series of pounds

[Doug]

On 02/15/2015 02:25 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 19:18 15/02/2015 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

I can't understand how anyone can work for weeks on a document without taking 
one single backup ...


Then you don't understand how half the world works! Perhaps those who 
understand little about computers also understand little about their 
imperfection. But your implied criticism is entirely justified, of course.


That sounds cool! Where do you buy [typewriters], these days?


Oh, second-hand models are plentiful! (I recently cleaned up my trusty 1960s 
portable and Freecycled it.)

Brian Barker


Much to my surprise, there is a working typewriter behind the desk at my public 
library!

--doug

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Re: odt-file, ascii filter, series of pounds

[Doug]

On 02/14/2015 03:47 PM, tom cuypers wrote:

Dear Sir,

how did you solve this well-known problem? I've seen a series of suggestions, 
but none will fix the problem.
Renaming and Unzipping doesn't help.
I can't understand how a program is allowed to ruin people's life by letting 
them work for weeks on documents.
Comments on the forum say when a file is corrupted, the problem is unfixable.
BUT IF A FILE IS SAVED ONCE ELECTRONICALLY, HOW CAN IT DISAPPEAR?
I won't be using your program again untill this problem is fixed.
I'm even thinking about buying a typewriter again, that will cost me less time.

Regards

Tom Cuypers



I haven't lost anything with SoftMakerOffice Textmaker. I have the version that 
I paid for; there is a freebie which I'm told is
missing some useful stuff. I gave up on the OO and LO programs when LO, at 
least, started to think it was a desktop publisher.
All I need is a simple word processor, how about you? (SoftMaker comes with a 
spreadsheet program and a slide maker also.)

--doug

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Re: What happened to the Thesaurus

[Doug]

On 02/12/2015 06:17 AM, Ian Baird wrote:

Since downloading the last updated version, I’ve lost the Thesaurus/synonyms 
feature. I have looked for a working Thesaurus download with no result as the 
only one that comes up is an Australian English version which clearly says it 
does not work with the latest version of Open Office.
What’s up? I used to use the function regularly and frankly the Word Processor 
is useless without it which is why I ditched Pages in favour of Open Office. 
Now I sit with a well thumbed book next to me.
HELP!
Yours Ian Baird
ianwba...@gmail.com
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If you can live with a Thesaurus/Dictionary that's independent of a word 
processor, get Artha. It's really very good. It might be in
your repo (if you're running Linux) or you can download a version for Windows 
or Linux--just Google it. (I don't know if there's a
Mac version.)

--doug

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Re: problem with .docx

[Doug]

On 02/01/2015 09:05 AM, martin wrote:

I am just setting up a computer running windows 7 64 bit. I was hoping
to not have to load my old version of MS office at all, but I can't seem
to save to a .docx file in Open Office as it is not in the drop down
list.  Do I have to save an old .doc in another format and then convert
to .docx or what?

Regards
Martin Watt




I'm pretty sure that anything that can read docx can read doc 1997, which is 
pretty much a standard. No reason to convert to docx.
Alternatively, you could use the products from Softmaker Office, either the 
free or the paid, and that will read and write docx with no problem.
(I have no pecuniary interest in Softmaker.)

--doug

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Re: I hope someone can help

[Doug]

On 01/28/2015 07:19 AM, Mark Harris wrote:

Openoffice is the best thing since sliced bread. However, I cannot insert a 
music character on its own such a Semibreve, Minim, Chrotchet, Quaver etc. on 
their own
without being  attached in a staff. It is very frustrating when I'm writing 
notes. Is there any way of doing this without using a staff so I can put these 
characters on
their own.
Mark


There are Compose key and Unicode inputs for these things, which may or may not 
work on OO. (They work on Kate, but not on Thunderbird,
so I can't demonstrate them in a message.) Here is what you can get, in both 
formats:

#b or U266D flat sign
#e or U266A eighth note
#f or U266E natural sign
#q or U2669 quarter note
#E or U266B tied eight notes
#S or U266C tied sixteenth notes
## or U266F sharp sign

Ref: "Compose Key Sequence Reference Guide 2012" by Sander van Geloven pub. by 
Hellebaard (www.hellebaard.nl)
 I bought mine from a US distributor, but I don't remember which one--could 
have been Amazon.

Hope that helps--doug



































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Re: post card problem

[Doug]

On 01/14/2015 07:47 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:



Sent from my mobile device.


On 15 Jan 2015, at 9:24 am,   
wrote:

Hello, I have been using Openoffice for quite some time now and really like it. 
I am suddenly having an issue printing post cards though. I’ve been using the 
same format and paper for well over a year but, suddenly my post card print is 
half off the card. I contacted my printer support and they informed me that it 
was a program issue and not the printer since thing is the only time (printing 
post cards) is an issue. I tried uploading the most recent application of 
Openoffice as well but, that didn’t clear things up either. when I pull up a 
postcard on my program it looks fine but, when I go to “print preview” the 
postcard is on the far left of the page and it looks like it’s trying to print 
on the left side of a full piece of paper. I tried adjusting the paper 
size/dimension but, that didn’t seem to help. Can you tell me what I’ve done 
and how to correct this?


We can't tell what you have done, you should tell us.
Things you could check are:
The option to print multiple pages on one. This could be set within OpenOfice 
and on most printers.
Check page formats especially the margins.
Check the zoom factor.


You should not have to change any setup on the printer. The printer should 
print whatever the software sends it. The problem is in
the software. The only limitation on the printer is how close to the edge of 
the media it will print, and that will apply to everything
you print. There are even some printers made to print right to the edge, for 
photo purposes, but most have limits, which you could
look up in the specs.
I can't help you with OO or LO--I have abandoned them because they are too 
complicated, but if you can (or at least could) print
postcards, you seem to have figured out that part of the problem. If you have 
the version of OO that worked, I would suggest you
remove the present version and install the old one. It will probably be 
difficult to find an old copy if you don't have one yourself.
I wish someone would tell the devs that the old saw is correct: If you play 
with something long enough you'll break it!
Good luck!
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Re: Help!

[Doug]

On 01/01/2015 02:25 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/31/2014 01:00 PM, Eleanor Lawrie wrote:

I have used Open Office for over 2 years now, and am experiencing for the
second time the Error that pops up saying 'This operation requires
elevation'

Today I uninstalled the Open Office and reinstalled, and clicked on 'anyone
using this computer' and I still can't open my documents.

I can't understand any of the long descriptions to solve this on the
website forum. I can't see any sense in the User Account Controls questions
or options.

Please give me a simple solution. If there is no such thing I will have to
start using another word system, or pay for Windows!!

Thanks!
Eleanor Lawrie


/snip/

If you do pick another word processor, I like the FreeOffice suite from 
Softmaker Office. I think it has most of the
commercial version capabilities. (I haven't used the new FreOffice suite 
very long--there used to be a full version
available free to non-commercial users. The new FreeOffice is free to 
all users, commercial or not. I have used
the old free version quite a bit, and I like it a lot. I doesn't force 
you into a strait jacket like OO and LO.)

--doug

My "guess" is that you've somehow set AOO to run as administrator.
Perhaps this will help (substitute winzip for soffice.exe):

<http://kb.winzip.com/kb/entry/243/>
(Error 740: The requested operation requires elevation)





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Re: Fonts

[Doug]

On 12/22/2014 10:01 AM, Jamie Prevosk wrote:

Is a font available that simulates handwriting. I could not find anything
in the forums or online. I checked each font individually and could not
find one. I am using Open Office 4.1.1. I appreciate any help you can give
me.

Thanks
Jamie


You need to look harder. Fer instance: the SoftMaker Office folks were advertising a 
"deal" on fonts a couple of months ago, that I
think included a handwriting simulator. Someone in either OO or LO was 
discussing available fonts about six months ago. He was
looking for something similar, but he was extremely fussy. There were all sorts 
of fonts suggested. I'm sure there are some free
ones, but if you;re willing to pay for it, there are probably hundreds to 
choose from. (Good fonts have historically not been free.)

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Re: I Need Help

[Doug]

On 12/06/2014 03:20 PM, smithphill...@sky.com wrote:

I have updated open Office to the current 4.1 version and now all words in a 
document are underlined as spelt wrong, alternatives are not offered. What is 
wrong. Help Help HelpPhil



What's wrong apparently is that there must be bug in the software. This 
complaint seems to surface about once a week or so.
Why don't you file a bug report with OpenOffice. Then send another one to 
LibreOffice. LO must have copied it when they forked.

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Re: Problème clavier

[Doug]

On 11/21/2014 03:53 AM, mt wrote:

On 21/11/14 at 8:33 AM, davian...@gmail.com (Urmas) wrote:


"Brian Barker":


the number of speakers of Mandarin as a first language is more than twice that 
for English
Would you please follow your own logic and repeat your query in Mandarin


Not even Chinese speak Mandarin.
However, everyone of consequence on our Earth speaks English.
Also, netiquette states clearly: English or nothing.




I'm sure even you would benefit from perfecting your non-native English and 
broadening your view on languages. Understanding French, as well as English, 
German, Spanish, Italian, Chinese and Arabic will make it much easier for you 
to communicate over the Internet. Which is the only reason for 'netiquette' to 
exist: no communication, no need for netiquette. Right? :-)

mt


Like it or not, Urmas is fundamentally right: the modern lingua franca is 
English. If there is a secondary language, it is probably Spanish,
since it is the language of most of South America. Or maybe Russian, which mt 
never even considered. Or maybe Arabic, altho it suffers
from a difficult written form. I would doubt that Chinese will ever become a 
world-wide language unless and until it converts to a Latin alphabet.

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Re: Problème clavier

[Doug]

On 11/20/2014 12:29 AM, Urmas wrote:

"Régis De merlis":

When using PUBLIC newsgroups, you should write in the language people can 
UNDERSTAND. French is NOT a such language.


Cependant, lorsque je veux mettre un point (.)


Which key that is?



B-flat?

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Re: convert picture to OCR ODT

[Doug]

On 11/16/2014 10:36 PM, Reginald Bezzola wrote:

I have a Canon Multifunction laser MF4150 from which I scanned a text file, 
which scanned as a picture, is there a way to convert it to a text file?
Converting a BMP, JPG to a word processing file which can be edited?

thanks much, with blessings, ... Reg   reg...@att.net

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If you should have to do this more than once, you will buy appyyocr,
I'm afraid it only works in Windows, but I'd like to find out I'm wrong.
It is very difficult to edit the result of a converter that is only
80% correct. Letters run together--frequently--producing other letters
and signs. "l" becomes "1" , lower case letters become upper, or
sometimes numbers--"o" > "0"--it's a mess. I did this on a 4 page
file about 6 months ago, and I will order abbyyocr if I ever have to
do it again!
One of the editing problems is just finding the error. Sometimes it
is not obvious, but it's wrong! You really need to put on your
"schoolteacher's glasses" and become Miss Grundy.
You have been warned!

--doug

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Re: Email documents

[Doug]

On 10/30/2014 06:47 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

Wayne schrieb:

I am unable to email any open office documents. I get the following
message all the time “Open Office was unable to find a working e-mail
configuration. Please save this document locally and attach it from
within your email client”. What do I have to do?


/snip/

Do you have an envelope and a stamp?

Happy Halloween!

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Re: Help please.

[Doug]

On 10/03/2014 12:37 PM, skydiv...@aol.com wrote:
>   
/snip/

> I  go through the process but all I see in the document instead of letters
> is  hashtags (pound signs) ie. ## #  # ###.
> 
/snip/
> Sandy
> 
Doesn't anybody know these are SHARP signs? (When you write bash scripts
you start one with #!, pronounced SHBANG.)

--doug

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Re: accented characters and regex ... more

[Doug]

On 09/27/2014 01:32 PM, Doug wrote:

(See addendum to previous message, below.)
>>
>>
> I don't know how to "replace them all at once" but I know how to make
> them as you go. Set up a Compose key on your keyboard. I use right alt,
> but if you have a Microsoft k/b, you could use the right m/s key.
> Then when you want a foreign character, you make it as you go.
> ¿Dónde encuentro una guía de térrminos Matemáticos únicos para
> el año?
> You hit compose then single quote then the vowel. For the ¿ you
> hit compose, the ? twice. For ñ it's compose, then ~ then n. It
> works for capital letters also, and all kinds of accents, for
> German, French, Italian, and foreign currencies ¥, £, ¢, fractions--
> ½ ⅓ ⅔ ¾ degrees: 75°F, and so on. Look up Gtk Compose Table in Google.
> Your distro ought to have a way to make some key a compose key.
> the compose key can also be used as its original function; it
> only works as compose for about a second.
> 


Linux distros tend to have a keyboard setup routine where you can make
a compose key. That's what I was referring to. In Windows, there are a
number of programs that will do the same thing, but some of them do not
let you pick the key you want to use. I think on a Mac there is an 
"Alt-Gr" key, which may already be set up as a compose key, but I'm not sure.
for Windows, look at https://code.google.com/p/freecompose/
You might want to look at AllChars, but someone wrote that it's limited.

--dm

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Re: accented characters and regex ...

[Doug]

On 09/27/2014 04:12 AM, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> Most of the times I type in English so I don't need to worry about
> accented characters
> 
> Sometimes I need to write up or edit text in Spanish or German, so I
> need to be able to replace accented characters at once.
> 
> After marking them up with ticks next/right to the character you can
> search all of them with the regex:
> 
> (a'|e'|i'|o'|u'|u''|n~|?'|!'|A'|E'|I'|O'|U'|U''|N~)
> 
> but then, how do you replace them all at once (each correspondingly) by:
> 
> (á, é, í, ó, ú, ü, ñ, ¿, ¡, Á, É, Í, Ó, Ú, Ü, Ñ)
> 
>   A'lgebra I: ?'Do'nde encuentro una gui'a de te'rminos Matema'ticos
> u'nicos para el an~o?
> 
>   Should become at once:
> 
>   Álgebra I: ¿Dónde encuentro una guía de términos Matemáticos únicos
> para el año?
> 
>   Thank you,
>   lbrtchx
>   (users@openoffice.apache.org)
> 
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> 
I don't know how to "replace them all at once" but I know how to make
them as you go. Set up a Compose key on your keyboard. I use right alt,
but if you have a Microsoft k/b, you could use the right m/s key.
Then when you want a foreign character, you make it as you go.
¿Dónde encuentro una guía de térrminos Matemáticos únicos para
el año?
You hit compose then single quote then the vowel. For the ¿ you
hit compose, the ? twice. For ñ it's compose, then ~ then n. It
works for capital letters also, and all kinds of accents, for
German, French, Italian, and foreign currencies ¥, £, ¢, fractions--
½ ⅓ ⅔ ¾ degrees: 75°F, and so on. Look up Gtk Compose Table in Google.
Your distro ought to have a way to make some key a compose key.
the compose key can also be used as its original function; it
only works as compose for about a second.

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Re: 4.1.1 No Thesaurus

[Doug]

On 09/23/2014 05:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote:
> Greetings.
> I have OO 4.1.1, and the Thesaurus "button" is always
> greyed out. I have Dictionaries that appear to include a Thesaurus,
> but the Tools>Language>Thesaurus option never changes to normal
> black - always remains greyed out. Ctrl-F7 do not activate the Thesaurus.
> 
> Can anyone help please?
> 
> Thank you,
> Rob.
> 
>Have you considered installing Artha?

--doug

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Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

[Doug]

On 08/19/2014 08:29 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

As the poster was not specific in where the exact problem was.
I assumed that he has read the help file because he said: "in the way 
you explain the aid"

The help file clearly state:

   *Undoing password protection*
   To remove a password, open the document, then save without password.

Hence my assumption was that he needed to remove a password that he 
couldn't remember.


If posters are vague in their problem description you could expect 
that different people have different interpretations.

/snip/

I think this is Catch 22.
1. The document is protected by a password
2. You must open the document to remove the password
3. You don't know the password to open the document.

Maybe hypnosis?

--doug

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Re: Sneak in Scam

[Doug]

On 08/19/2014 05:13 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
/snip/


Some non-SourceForge sites which come top of Google searches use a 
DownloadManager (or similar name) of about 34MB to download OpenOffice. Such 
sites, in my limited experience of investigating complaints on the en-Forum, 
always include unwanted add-ons, usually an intrusive and persistent toolbar 
and who knows what other nasties.  Unfortunately one cannot unquestioningly 
accept the URLs reported by inexperienced computer users - they often report 
that they used their desired URL, not the actual URL used.



/snip/

That damned Download Manager crap is one of the reasons I avoid using 
anything Windows. When I had to reinstall a Windows system not too long 
ago, I went to
get Firefox, and sure enough, I got the Conduit virus, which is one 
bitch to get rid of! I wonder why more people don't just come to Linux?


--doug

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Re: Sneak in Scam

[Doug]

On 08/18/2014 11:52 AM, James Plante wrote:

It's a *telephone* scam, Doug. They call you, and tell you that there are 
problems with your Windows computer, and that they can repair them. I don't 
know what happens when you agree; maybe they have you log into their site and 
install malware, maybe they just charge you for the login. I just don't know. 
You see, when the caller completed his opening sentence, I said something very 
rude which may damage international relations--and hung up. I use a Mac, and I 
won't touch Windows with a vaccinated crowbar. (Personal choice.)

Jim Plante


Thanx for the info, Jim. They can expect the same response from me, if 
they call. I have Windows, but I seldom log in to it--I do almost all 
computing using PCLinuxOS.


--doug

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Re: Sneak in Scam

[Doug]

On 08/18/2014 09:44 AM, Vincent A. Juliano wrote:

I've had an indian company call me twice about my computer "Problems" and how they could 
fix them.  Each time the explanation got "murky" as we went long.  Each time I cancelled 
out.  Unfortunately I do not remember the company name.

On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:02 PM, carl wilson wrote:


Dear Sir/Madam

There is an Indian based "Company" Techliveconnect that is using you as a
means of convincing potential users that that they have major computer
problems particularly when they download a piece of software called
Driverdoctor. They appear to be a well organised scam with the charges going
through a Dutch "company" called Avangate. Do you know of them



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Have you considered that the email itself may be part of the scam, and 
if you answer it, you may be opening up yourself to some skullduggery?


--doug

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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable

[Doug]

On 08/17/2014 08:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:


/snip/


On 8/17/14, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
 wrote:

For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work.  I

say

the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save

every

few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
and replaced it with a blank document.  I'm tired of not knowing what
ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
my project will still be there.

Good bye OpenOffice!



/snip/

You might want to look for SoftMaker Free Office, if it's still 
available. I used
it for a little while, then I bought the full version. It's about $80.  
Word Processor,
Spread Sheet, and Presentations.  I think that's not a bad price for an 
office suite.
I like the way it works. It's not so stubborn about styles like OO or 
LO. And it reads
and writes MS formats, including docx.  The folks there will answer 
questions, if
you have a problem you can't figure out how to solve.  I think you can 
use styles

if you want to. I don't.
(I have no personal interest in the company, which is in Germany.)

--doug

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Re: opening open office docs with microsoft word

[Doug]

On 08/02/2014 03:42 PM, JD wrote:

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Randi Moore
 wrote:

Hi my name is Randi Moore.  I am an online college student and one of the tech 
requirements is that I have microsoft word 2007 or later version.  Well I do 
NOT want to spend that money to download MS word 2007!  So my question 
is...if I type a paper in Open Office and then email it to my professor, 
will she be able to open it and it be the same format in her MS Word 2007 
program?  I have to make sure Open Office and MS Word are compatable programs.  
Please answer ASAP

Thank You,

Randi Moore

My experience is that MS word does not play well with docs created
by openoffice, and libreoffice.
I have sent such docs to people who emailed me back and said my doc
was unreadable by MS word.

There is however another Linux free word doc editor: abiword

Just run
sudo yum -y install abiword

It has limitations, but for text only papers, it seems to work OK.
Paginations might not behave the same as on MS word.

Good luck.

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Look up Free Softmaker Office. It contains Textmaker, which  seems to be 
a good program that reads all the MS formats. I don't know how the 
output will work with MS Word.
Maybe somebody reading here can tell us.  This program comes from a 
German company, and has a spread sheet and presentation component also 
with itwhen you get the package.


--doug

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Re: Apache OpenOffice Has Been Reviewed at ListOfFreeware

[Doug]

On 07/30/2014 02:20 AM, Ubaid wrote:

Hello,

I am Ubaid from www.listoffreeware.com 
<http://www.listoffreeware.com>. This is a popular tech blog that 
lists best free software out there.


I am sending this mail to let you know that we recently reviewed 
Apache OpenOffice on our website here: 
http://listoffreeware.com/list-of-best-free-office-suites/


Congrats!

If you want to flaunt this review on your website, feel free to use 
the badge that I have attached with this email, or you can also use 
the code I have added below:


http://listoffreeware.com/list-of-best-free-office-suites/"; 
title="10 Best Free Office Suites">src="_http://listoffreeware.com/wp-content/uploads/Reviewed_At_ListOfFreeware.png 
<http://listoffreeware.com/wp-content/uploads/Reviewed_At_ListOfFreeware.png>_"/>


Feel free to get back to me with any questions.

Have Fun,

Ubaid
Collaboration Manager

w: http://www.listoffreeware.com/


I'd like to read the review, but nothing in this post leads me to it. 
It's absolutely worthless!

--doug

Re: Saving files where I want them

[Doug]

On 07/20/2014 02:34 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:22 20/07/2014 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Have you looked into using Linux? The sort of thing you complain of 
is the reason many of us have turned to Linux.


Than you have been conned!
No, I haven't. I used Windows from almost the first days of Windows 
3.0.  It was quite usable, except for the BSOD. Windows 98 basically 
addressed itself to that,
not altogether successfully.  Then MS decided we all needed a nanny, and 
made many of those previously accessible items unusable.


I like PCLinuxOS-KDE. It has a Windows-like desktop and is not a 
steep learning curve. For the famous Ubuntu, you can have both 
worlds--Ubuntu and KDE--if you choose Kubuntu. Most programs will 
store files in reasonable places, like /home/username>/Documents for OO files.


Yes, and that's a property of those programs - so it is true whatever 
operating system you choose.


Then why is the OP having such a problem finding them?


For some other programs you may have to watch where you store your 
files, but the choice is always there, not only for OO and LO, but 
for virtually any kind of file you might be using.


Again, that is a property of programs, so true for all operating 
systems. (Surely you always have to "watch where you store your 
files", or you'd never know where they were?)


Like in unzipping files? When you unzip a package, rather than one file, 
you never know where the rest of them went!


(If you wanted to save a music file to a Documents directory, you 
could.)


Er, in any operating system.


I doubet it.


And there is a good Find Files/Folders utility if you misplace 
something. It doesn't force you to _open_ the file, it just shows you 
where it is, in case you wanted to attach it to an email, for 
instance. And it works with wild cards, so if you don't remember an 
exact file name, you have a chance to find it anyway.
All that is surely true of any operating system? It's certainly so of 
Windows.


So then when you go to that clear space in the start system and enter a 
filename to find, how come it opens the file? Not only that, it opens 
the file in what IT
thinks you should be working on it with!  I won't swear that it doesn't 
accept wildcards, but I don't think it does.


By all means make out a case for your favourite operating system (or 
any other facility), but don't try to do it on a risible false 
pretext. You'll be telling us next that Linux works on electricity 
whilst Windows still requires gas!


Brian Barker

I am not one of those fanatics who have removed Windows from their 
computers. There are a few things that only work on Windows--AutoCAD is 
one--and a few
things that work better on Windows, altho some of them may cost quite a 
bit. (I'm not convinced that Word works better than Open Office, altho 
the OP is, but even
if it does, it's a pretty expensive word processor.)  OTOH, I have 
certainly cussed out Windows often enough!  I don't need or want a nanny.


--doug

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Re: Saving files where I want them

[Doug]

On 07/20/2014 12:38 PM, James Lambert wrote:

Sir:
I am having a terrible time saving files. They never go where I want them so  
that I can load them again. They go to Skydrive, skydrive.old, never to  
thispc/documents. How can I specify where I  want files saved?
The only way I can find them is by doing a search with “windows C” and clicking 
on search. I cannot always remember the exact file name. I want the files to 
always go to ThisPC/Documents and  they seldom do.
James Lambert



Have you looked into using Linux? The sort of thing you complain of is 
the reason many of us have turned to Linux. I like PCLinuxOS-KDE. It has 
a Windows-like
desktop and is not a steep learning curve. For the famous Ubuntu, you 
can have both worlds--Ubuntu and KDE--if you choose Kubuntu. Most programs
will store files in reasonable places, like /home/username>/Documents for OO files. For some other programs you may have 
to watch where you store
your files, but the choice is always there, not only for OO and LO, but 
for virtually any kind of file you might be using. (If you wanted to 
save a music file to a
Documents directory, you could.) And there is a good Find Files/Folders 
utility if you misplace something. It doesn't force you to _open_ the 
file, it just
shows you where it is, in case you wanted to attach it to an email, for 
instance. And it works with wild cards, so if you don't remember an 
exact file name,
you have a chance to find it anyway. (There are other stronger utilities 
that will help in such instances also.)


--doug

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Re: Spelling Hebrew text

[Doug]

On 07/10/2014 06:39 AM, Vadim Volkov wrote:


Dear staff website!

I know that there is an option to install the program in my native 
Russian language.


But, is there any option in this case spelling of the Hebrew text?

Or for that I need to install only in Hebrew, which is not my native 
language.


With thanks for answering my query.

Regards,

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I suspect that you mean spelling Hebrew with Latin letters, not 
Cyrillic. I looked at the Wikipedia, and it seems there is no standard for
what they call "Romanization" of the Hebrew. If you do not read Hebrew, 
you would have an even greater problem, since you would not know the
pronunciation of the words. If you do know the pronunciation, then 
spelling the pronounced word as if it were the language you would like 
to use it in--
English, for example, would work perfectly well. Check out the Wiki 
yourself--look for "Romanization of Hebrew."  In spite of the fact that 
the Wiki says
there is no standard, if you Google on "Romanization of Hebrew," under 
that you will find some conversion tools, including one from the US 
Library of Congress.


Hope this helps--I don't speak Hebrew, myself, but language fascinates me.

--doug

Re: windows XP files on flash drive won't open in windows 8.1

[Doug]

On 07/09/2014 05:55 AM, mikyael...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Spent ages searching for answer. Tried very hard. Tried Users Forum, etc. I’m a 
beginner, not technical, and it’s all too confusing. Can you help?


I have text, document files  from windows XP sp3 on Flash drive. Now I have new 
Dell PC  with Windows 8.1. But when I click on files to open and work / edit 
them,   they won’t open. I double left click.  When I select a file from the My 
Documents folder from my flash drive list, a page comes up with choice, “Open 
or Save”   I don’t want to save, which I think means save to hard drive;  I 
thought I’d just work from  files on flash drive;  to save hard drive space. Is 
that possible, normal? Just to Open?

I’m a writer; my main use for computer.


Michael  Gerstein


I think you'd better save to the hard drive. You can always erase them 
later, after you've done whatever you need to do with them.
I trust these files end in .doc? If they do, then you should be able to 
open them in Windows 8.1, but many word processors will not
open a file without first saving it--and then after you modify it, you 
will have to save it to a different filename. Perhaps add "_1" to the

end of the file (before .doc).
If the filename does _not_ end in .doc, please tell us what it does end 
in, so we can see whether it should be usable.
If these files are classified documents, then you should consult your 
security department. Otherwise, I don't know why you wouldn't

save them to the hard drive.

--doug

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Re: How to put my resume file from email into the open office application and then send as a file I CORRECT MYSELF!

[Doug]

On 07/08/2014 10:07 PM, James Knott wrote:

On 07/08/2014 10:03 PM, Doug wrote:

Perhaps I wasn't thorough, or perhaps we're at a misunderstanding.
Once you
have set the resume up the way you want it to look in OO, save it as a
.com as per Microsoft 1997~2003. Don't save it in .odf or anything
like that,
as there is a good chance that the intended recipient won't be able to
read
it. But everybody in the world can read MS .com 1997 vintage. anyway,
when you're done, just attach the OO document, saved as a .com, to the
email cover letter you're sending, and let the prospective employer
open it.

In my editing chore, I do almost exactly that--I make all the
corrections and
formatting, save the file as .doc, and send it off to the publisher,
who then
uses a publishing program to make it fit the pages and columns of the
newsletter. His publisher app runs on an older Mac, but as I said,
everyone and
every machine can read MS .doc files from the turn of the 21st century.

Have I missed anything?

Yeah, what's .com?



I'm sorry. I meant to say*.doc*. What was i thinking of?
(When you start thinking Microsoft, you get confused!)
50 lashes with a wet noodle!

And just about all word processors for Linux or MS can save
in that 1997~2003 *,doc* format.

Re: How to put my resume file from email into the open office application and then send as a file

[Doug]

On 07/08/2014 09:08 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:


On 7/8/14, Doug  wrote:

On 07/08/2014 03:26 PM, Justyna K. wrote:

Hi,

How to put my resume file from email into the open office application and
then send as a file.

Thanks.


Sent from my iPad

Not sure why you're having a problem. Just highlite the entire resume
and paste it into OO or any word processor.
You should then be able to correct the line and paragraph spacing, and
the font and the justification. The only problem you will
have, I believe, is that any apostrophes or quote marks will be straight
"inch marks." And you'll have to go thru and correct them
all one by one.

If there is more to this than meets the eye, post again--I have been
doing something similar to this for some time, as editor
of a small-circulation Newsletter.  There is an additional technique i
have used once in a while, but if you don't need it, I won't
go into it, since your distro may be different.

--doug




Perhaps I wasn't thorough, or perhaps we're at a misunderstanding. Once you
have set the resume up the way you want it to look in OO, save it as a
.com as per Microsoft 1997~2003. Don't save it in .odf or anything like 
that,

as there is a good chance that the intended recipient won't be able to read
it. But everybody in the world can read MS .com 1997 vintage. anyway,
when you're done, just attach the OO document, saved as a .com, to the
email cover letter you're sending, and let the prospective employer open it.

In my editing chore, I do almost exactly that--I make all the 
corrections and
formatting, save the file as .doc, and send it off to the publisher, who 
then

uses a publishing program to make it fit the pages and columns of the
newsletter. His publisher app runs on an older Mac, but as I said, 
everyone and

every machine can read MS .doc files from the turn of the 21st century.

Have I missed anything?

--doug

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Re: How to put my resume file from email into the open office application and then send as a file

[Doug]

On 07/08/2014 03:26 PM, Justyna K. wrote:

Hi,

How to put my resume file from email into the open office application and then 
send as a file.

Thanks.


Sent from my iPad
Not sure why you're having a problem. Just highlite the entire resume 
and paste it into OO or any word processor.
You should then be able to correct the line and paragraph spacing, and 
the font and the justification. The only problem you will
have, I believe, is that any apostrophes or quote marks will be straight 
"inch marks." And you'll have to go thru and correct them

all one by one.

If there is more to this than meets the eye, post again--I have been 
doing something similar to this for some time, as editor
of a small-circulation Newsletter.  There is an additional technique i 
have used once in a while, but if you don't need it, I won't

go into it, since your distro may be different.

--doug

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Re: It sucks

[Doug]

On 06/24/2014 01:20 PM, Denis R LeBlanc wrote:

Indead I use OO since more than ten years. I found it friendly users. I 
congratulate all the community for the exceptional and wonderful support they 
gave. If all people were like you guys word will be so much better.

For those who juge fast and got a faster and inappropriate critic sorry for 
you. Windows, you like it stay whit it. I am please for you.

For all the others have a really beauty full week!

Denis R LeBlanc
leberbl...@icloud.com


some snips here and there to leave the original message more or less intact.


2014-06-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Grey Pearl :


Open Office is the most horrible and the most shameful text writing
software that i have ever seen in my life.
Windows's Paint , and Word , are is waay better!!
I wasted 3
hours of my life to found how to
write a text on an image, to put the fucking image in the background.




I don't know anything about Word, except 15 or more years ago before I
retired I had to use it once in a while, and I didn't like it much.
BUT:
There probably ought to be some sort of textbook for OO/LO that would
answer the questions that continuously pop up on this list. Because of
the necessity of learning the "styles" protocols, this is not a DIY kind
of program.

--doug

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Re: correttore ortografico

[Doug]

On 06/24/2014 01:58 AM, Michele Babuin wrote:

Sono Padre Michele. Vi scrivo perché non sono mai riuscito  far funzionare
il correttore ortografico di Open Office 4.1.0 che ho installato su Windows
7. Il problema è il seguente: quando attivo la correzione automatica, il
correttore mi segna in rosso TUTTE le parole del testo. Ho controllato su
Opzioni - impostazioni della lingua, ed è tutto corretto (lingua preferita
italiano). Ma, appunto, non funziona. Stranamente ho visto che il
correttore funziona quando Open office è installato su Windows 8. Che devo
fare?

Grazie.

_


I am Father Michael. I am writing because I was never able to run the spell
checker I have installed Open Office 4.1.0 on Windows 7. Problem is the
following: when active the automatic correction, the correction marks me
ALL the words in red text. I've checked Options - Language settings, and
everything is correct (preferred language Italian). But, of course, does
not work. Strangely, I saw that the spell works when Open Office is
installed on Windows 8. What should I do?

Thank you.


Googling the problem shows this:

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=66212

Bona fortuna, Padre!

--doug

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Word pad

[Doug Thomas]

I downloaded open office.  I didn't like the format of the word processer
documents, so I removed the program.  Now, my hundreds and hundreds of MS
Word documents have all been re-formatted to Word Pad, which is totally
unacceptable.  I can't even save a new Word document - they all turn into
Word Pad.  How do I get my Word documents back to Word format?  I am very
upset at this change!

Doug Thomas

 

Re: Suggestion.

[Doug]

On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote:


/snip/

There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and 
showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing characters is 
similar to WP reveal codes is ridiculous.


Now tell me again how there are no similarities (include examples 
other than ones I have given above).  The OO's limited source has 
been the topic for requesting to expand.  The ability to edit is 
there just not in a separate window as WP.  I don't know if OO has 
the ability to edit a text box but someone with more time and energy 
could respond. 


Using reveal non-printing charters in AOO does not show any formatting 
codes.  The purpose of WP reveal codes is to change the documents 
formatting (font size and type, bold, italic, underline, superscript, 
etc).  There is no similarity to AOO.


I must respectfully disagree. All of the formatting in WP is modifiable 
from the menus at the top of the page, and simple format changes, like 
bold, italic, underline
are available from the keyboard in the same fashion that is found in 
virtually all modern word processors or text writers. Font and font size 
are also modifiable from
the heading structure. (What are those top lines, which occur in just 
about all GUI programs, including Firefox and Thunderbird, called, 
anyway?) Real format tricks,

like small caps can be found in the pull-down menus.

I have found the Reveal Codes feature to be most useful in finding 
oddball things that may have come in with an imported file, and to debug 
minor mishaps that are
not obvious from just looking at the text. One use of Reveal Codes will 
tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also, to 
spot double spaces, if you don't
just do a find/replace to get rid of them. I think this kind of use 
could be done in OO or LO just as well.


--doug

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