[users] SCALC - Features not found

[SubrataNath]

Hello,
I am a new user of OOo and recently I have installed in 16 PC all are 
using XP as OS.
Previously we ware using MSO and few features found and extensively used 
by our users are missing.

In Excel (Ctrl+D) it copies the contents of the above cell. now this is 
not possible? (in calc It show a list and only text are displayed) 

With Regards,

SUBRATA NATH  -  ( ISD / AS-01 / PLL )
We shall over come, some day, deep in my heart , I do believe, that we 
shall over come some day...

Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue

[Mike Dawe]

Joe wrote:
> Mike,
> Thanks again for your help. We are getting further along with NeoOffice.
> Thanks for all of your advice.
> -Joe

Hi Joe. No probs ;-) Glad you were able to help your friend out.

Regards

-- 
Mike Dawe
OOo 3.0.1rc2 MacOSX PPC US English

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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[SubrataNath]

Dear Karl,

Please do write in English so that we can understand what you mean. Don't 
you all agree with?

With Regards,

SUBRATA NATH  -  ( ISD / AS-01 / PLL )
We shall over come, some day, deep in my heart , I do believe, that we 
shall over come some day...



Gene Young  
28-02-09 02:48 AM
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users@openoffice.org


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Karl Appel wrote:
> Es war ein Versehen von mir!


Ich bin froh, dass wir dazu beitragen sortieren sie aus.

-- 
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[users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[NoOp]

On 02/27/2009 07:05 PM, Ugly Me wrote:

> 
> The only words I know are Oktoberfest, Heil Hitler, and bratwurst.

Sorry, but I call Godwin's law. Bye now.



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Re: [users] USING OPEN OFFICE

[Richard Detwiler]

James Knott wrote:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
  

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:15:15 +
david alistair baines  dijo:

  


I have just install the full suite of Open Office. I wanted to find an
alternative to MS. Power Point in Open Office but I cannot find it?   Also
other MS. alternatives, such as Word, Excel, etc.

  

Word = Writer
Excel = Calc
Powerpoint = Impress
Access = Base

Having said that, while OOo has just about all the features of MS
Office, plus a few extras, you will find that all the buttons are in
different places and have different names. In the short run you will be
frustrated trying to figure out how OOo works, but people on this list
will help. Even dumb questions are welcome. And in the long run, you'll
be glad you made the switch.
  


Why would he be frustrated? I've introduced a few people to OpenOffice
and I don't recall them being frustrated.
  


It may depend on the computer literacy of the people converting from MS 
Office to OpenOffice. I had a part-time job for about a year, training 
people, who had done things in MS Office, how to use OpenOffice. The 
people in general were not extremely computer literate. Very good at 
their main jobs, just not real computer savvy. There was indeed quite a 
bit of frustration, which is in fact why I was hired, to minimize the 
frustration (and I feel that I did the reasonably well). But without 
some instruction/handholding, their level of frustration would have 
persisted, in many cases to the point of not wanting anything to do with 
OpenOffice.

Re: [users] Re: Question about OpenOffice

[jonathon]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:07, NoOp wrote:
>> How do I check the of a word document using OpenOffice?
> This might be an excellent extension for someone to write for OOo

Readability Analyser

Author: Daniel Carrera
This macro provides some common readability tests. These tests use the
sentence length and word length to estimate the complexity of the
text. Each test has a slightly different idea of what makes text
readable.

Please note these comments from the author: "Be aware that this macro
is still alpha. In fact, I know that there are bugs. There are some
problems with text frames that I haven't even gotten a chance to look
at."

This macro is released under the GNU General Public License (GPL)

Latest release: March 3, 2004

Download Readability Analyser

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87718&package_id=111318


jonathon

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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[Ugly Me]

- Original Message - 
From: "Spiderman" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions


> Karl Appel schrieb:
> > Es war ein Versehen von mir!
> > - Original Message - From: "Gene Young" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: "Karl Appel" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions
> >
> >
> >> Karl Appel wrote:
> >>> PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN !
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Spiderman" 
> >>
> >>
> >> Why would you subscribe to an English language list and then demand
> >> that everyone write in German?
> >>
> >>
> >> Warum würden Sie sich bei einem englischen Sprache, und dann
> >> verlangen, dass alle schreiben auf Deutsch?

The only words I know are Oktoberfest, Heil Hitler, and bratwurst.



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Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue

[Joe]

Mike,
Thanks again for your help. We are getting further along with NeoOffice.
Thanks for all of your advice.
-Joe


> From: Mike Dawe 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:19:07 +1100
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue
> 
> Joe wrote:
>> Mike,
>> Thanks so much for the download info. Actually, I am helping a guy with this
>> problem.  He was able to download OpenOffice 2.1 and install it from the
>> website you provided.
>> 
>> Now there are a couple of issues. Again, this is on an iMac running Panther
>> 10.3.9
>> 
>> 1). He can get OpenOffice 2.1 to open a .pps file (with some finagling) ,
>> but the fonts are so jagged and distorted that they are just about
>> unreadable.
> 
> Ask him if he has his monitor set to thousands of colors or less? If so
> (or no) he should either set his display to millions of colors and/or
> follow this hint from:
> 
> 
> "Launch X11 and open the Preferences section. On the Output tab, change
> the Colors pull-down to 'Millions' instead of 'From Display.' Restart X11."
> 
> When he installed OOo 2.1, did he click "yes" to OOo's installer request
> asking if he would like to use the Mac's own fonts? I assume (hope) that
> he would have said yes.
> 
> I installed vers 2.1 onto a Mac running Panther to test it for myself.
> The font rendering in Writer was pretty unsightly. I found that some
> fonts looked better than others. Times New Roman of all fonts was
> particularly awful. But they were legible, just not pretty (kerning or
> the lack of, my biggest issue).
> 
> I then opened a .pps file in OOo ver. 2.1, and the fonts in it were
> perfectly legible (looked much better than in Writer) and easily passed
> inspection. So...
> 
> The .pps file he is trying to open was perhaps created using fonts that
> he does not have installed or available to OOo (they may even be bitmaps
> of fonts and not actual fonts). Ask if all .pps files that he's tried,
> are rendering as badly?
> 
> If his iMac has a G4 cpu, and if he were to upgrade his OS to Tiger he
> could install OOo version 3.0 or newer, which would negate having to use
> X11. Fonts look just as good as on any Mac app in vers. 3.0
> 
> If he can't upgrade he might take a look at NeoOffice which is a Mac
> port of OOo running under Java. It doesn't require X11 and can run on
> Panther or newer.  I
> can't say how well it works as I have not tried it, myself. It is an
> option that he should be made aware of.
> 
>> 2). Second, he is unable to quit X11 without force quitting it. He does not
>> even have a menu bar up on top for X11.
>> 
>> I told him to run Disk Utility and repair permissions as well as repair the
>> disk--in case that is related to the problem. He will do that tonight, but I
>> thought I'd see if any of you Mac people were familiar with either of these
>> problems.
> 
> I don't get that issue. That is, X11 quits quickly and cleanly on my PPC
> running Panther.
> 
> If by "force quitting" X11, he means that is how he is quitting out of
> OpenOffice, then ask him to exit the (OOo) program first by choosing
> "Exit" from the "File" menu of the front most OOo window, or by typing
> "Ctrl + Q" to quit OOo. He should be able to quit X11 after OOo exits at
> that point by typing "Command + Q".
> 
> But not having a menu bar for X11 indicates that something is either
> wrong with his install or that the Finder or some other running app is
> front most when he decides that he wants to quit X11. Ask him to toggle
> his running apps to see what is running at the time. By holding the
> Command key down and tapping at the tab key, he can cycle through his
> running apps (same as in Windows with Alt + tab keys).
> 
> If he still cannot see an X11 menu bar by toggling through running apps
> then perhaps there is a problem with his install of X11.
> 
>> Thanks again for all of your help.
>> -Joe
> 
> YW Joe.
> 
> -- 
> Mike Dawe
> OOo 3.0.1rc2 MacOSX PPC US English
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Re: [users] document assembly for lawyers

[Michael Adams]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:00:39 -0800
Came this utterance formulated by Christian Einfeldt to my mailbox:

> 
> Here's what lawyers need to be able to do:  We produce reams and reams
> of paper documents in lawsuits.  Many of these lawsuits have similar
> elements. Automated document assembly speeds up the production of
> these documents, such as a Demand for Production of Documents (RPD),
> by inserting certain key words throughout the document, such as
> parties, lawyers' names, and so on. This data is pulled from fields
> entered into the automated document assembly materials when a case is
> opened, so that repetitive data need be entered only once for the life
> of the case (not perfect, but fairly good).
> 

So hotdocs if i understand it correctly is like auto-replace+ in that
you can have separate autoreplace tables for each case or group of
documents. Common names across documents is easily handled by OO.o. In
my auto-replace i replace ooo with OpenOffice.org automatically. One
would think customised autoreplace tables not such a difficult feature
to add. Definately a usefull extension for lawyers and posibly other
businesses.

Is there any other features this program has that you would like. It
being better to talk in terms of specific features than a proram name
that may or may not be recgnised.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416

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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[Gene Young]

Karl Appel wrote:

Es war ein Versehen von mir!



Ich bin froh, dass wir dazu beitragen sortieren sie aus.

--
Gene Y.

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Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[Christina Godinez]

I really enjoy the OO 3.0 big improvement and I have no problem..

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg 
Subject: Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.
To: users@openoffice.org, awill...@whitemice.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:56 AM

2009/2/27 Adam Tauno Williams 

> On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 14:36 +0100, M Henri Day wrote:
> > 2009/2/27 Richard 
> > > OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a
complete
> disaster
> > > that will loose countless users and loyal supporters
> > > I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have
used
> OOo
> > > since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation,
my staff
> are
> > > complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's
etc., It
> appears
> > > no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and
> unacceptable
> > > speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
> > > Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is
becoming
> more
> > > and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to
money
> saved
> > Thanks, Richard, for your detailed description of the difficulties
you
> are
> > encountering with OOo 3 ! No doubt this account will facilitate our
> helping
> > you resolve them, which after all, is the purpose of this
listserve
>
> As a counterpoint:  everyone here things 3.x is a nice improvement over
> 2.x.  I don't have any performance issues.  I can bounce around in my
> 160+ page master/sub documents and everything is nearly instantaneous.
> 
> Only slowness I see is "recalculating row height" when I've
got big
> spreadsheets.

By the way, WHY does it do that? Row height should not be calculated, it
should be what I set it to be. If the font size makes need for increasing
the height, why can't just the new height be saved with the file? Then row
height doesn't need to be calculated, only read from file or memory.
Yes, I know, it's only me who don't understand, so please enlighten me.
Or
not, since this thread isn't about row heights… sorry for being OT.
J.R.


>
>
> BTW, the comment/notation threading in OOo 3.1 looks awesome.  Keep up
> the great work guys.
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[users] document assembly for lawyers

[Christian Einfeldt]

hi,

I am a lawyer in San Francisco, and a long-time OOo user.  However, for all
of this years, I have been limping along with my OOo use without automated
document assembly, because I thought that there is no such thing for OOo as
with Microsoft Word.  I am very happy with my use of OOo, and would not
consider going back to Microsoft Word; however, one of the key things
stalling adoption of OOo in law offices is the lack of integration with
third party software such as HotDocs, as referenced below in this question
from another lawyer.

I run Linux in my own private practice, but use
Oo.o for my word processing. I do maintain a separate XP partition and
have a licensed copy of HotDocs, but wonder if you know of any way to
tie Oo.o in to HotDocs, or if you know of any open source document
assembly solutions?

I just did a google search for such document assembly, and found this
product:

http://www.zumesoft.com/Articles/WordFusion/Features.aspx

Has anyone used it?  Any thoughts?

Here's what lawyers need to be able to do:  We produce reams and reams of
paper documents in lawsuits.  Many of these lawsuits have similar elements.
Automated document assembly speeds up the production of these documents,
such as a Demand for Production of Documents (RPD), by inserting certain key
words throughout the document, such as parties, lawyers' names, and so on.
This data is pulled from fields entered into the automated document assembly
materials when a case is opened, so that repetitive data need be entered
only once for the life of the case (not perfect, but fairly good).

Any help with the above would be appreciated!  Thanks in advance.
-- 
Christian Einfeldt,
Producer, The Digital Tipping Point

[users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[Spiderman]

Karl Appel schrieb:

Es war ein Versehen von mir!
- Original Message - From: "Gene Young" 
To: 
Cc: "Karl Appel" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions



Karl Appel wrote:

PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN !
- Original Message - From: "Spiderman" 



Why would you subscribe to an English language list and then demand 
that everyone write in German?



Warum würden Sie sich bei einem englischen Sprache, und dann 
verlangen, dass alle schreiben auf Deutsch?


--
Gene Y.



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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[John Jason Jordan]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:50:19 -0800
NoOp  dijo:

> > Now I am bummed because I still won't be able to use OTF fonts in 3.1. :(
> 
> You can join the fray... start here:
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85977
> and work your way to here:
> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029
> with a side of:
> http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/aqua_port_three_times_faster#comment-1202368523000
> [which is pretty questionable]

Thanks for the links. I just gave issue 43029 two votes and a comment
that I'd do anything I can to help move this along. 

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[users] OO Base

[Paolo Debortoli]

Hi everybody.  I am working with  OO Base in connection with a mysql databae  
(through a java driver connection). Everythings is working fine until now.  
Does anybody know why when I try to manage user's accounts (tools -> user's 
administration)   it answers that the funcion is not supported ?  How can I 
rule the access rigts to objects (such as input masks) ?Does anybody know 
wether and how much   MS AccessBasic is compatible with   OO Base ?

Thank you if you can help.

Paolo  Debortoli


  

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[users] Re: problem downloading upgrade

[Twayne]

Raymond Smith wrote:
> *Hello. My name is Raymond and I am new to open office. I am unsure
> how to pose my problem in any of the various forums so I hope sending
> this email is the right thing to do.*
> *I have been trying to download an upgrade (to v3) but my dialup keeps
> dropping the call and the download gets stalled. When I restart my
> connection, the download begins back at the beginning. It seems to
> happen after about four hours each time and the download is still
> around 50% or less. I have tried help...but nothing tells me how to
> resume a stalled download. Is it possible to resume or would this be
> something which has never come up before? Is there a
> workaround...like pausing the download before the dialup call gets
> dropped, restarting the connection, and then resuming the
> download...?? The trick there of course would be to catch it before
> the dialup call gets dropped...* *Anyway I hope you can tell me what
> I can do. Thank you, Raymond *

See Michael Adams' responses; they're good ones.  I'd simply like to add 
that if you have to continue to download it via dialup, definitely use a 
download manager as he mentioned, and further, start the download at the 
end of your day, so the computer can go ahead and do the download 
uninterrupted; overnight perhaps.
   I wouldn't recommend BitTorrent and the like simply because my guess 
at your level of expertise says it may make things more confusing to you 
than they have to be.  But then again if you like an adventure, it's 
probably the fastest way to download it, but not the most reliable due 
to your current neophyte status (that's not "bad", it's just a 
statement).

   Cheers,

Twayne




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[users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.

[Twayne]

Richard wrote:
> OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete
> disaster that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.
>
> I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used
> OOo since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my
> staff are complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's
> etc., It appears no one is capable of answering the reasons for the
> slow and unacceptable speeds of opening and closing a file from a
> file server.
> Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming
> more and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to
> money saved.

LOL!  I know this isn't nice, but:

1.  I won't miss you; glad you're leaving.

2.  I'd sure hate to have YOU taking care of MY machines or even anyone 
I know for that matter.

3.  Ask and ye shall receive.  Well, you might have originally anyway. 
Your silliness, although probably born of  unnecessary frustration, is 
noted and has probably made a lot of people not care about your issues.
   I know I don't due to your attitude.  You've shot yourself in the 
foot, IMO.


Regards,

Twayne





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[users] Re: suggestion

[NoOp]

On 02/23/2009 04:03 AM, Gabriel Gabak Technologies wrote:
> hi
>  i m a new ubuntu user and it is very hard to install open office 3.0
>  and i really would like to see some video how to install it or
>  something .
>  
>  best regards
>  gabriel
> 

Installation instructions are quite detailed:
http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html

There is also an OpenOffice.org youtube group that may be helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/group/openofficeorg
  http://www.youtube.com/groups_videos?name=openofficeorg

Also please see:
http://support.openoffice.org/index.html
for more support information, including FAQ's, Documents, Books, Tutorials.


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Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2009/2/27 Adam Tauno Williams 

> On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 14:36 +0100, M Henri Day wrote:
> > 2009/2/27 Richard 
> > > OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete
> disaster
> > > that will loose countless users and loyal supporters
> > > I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used
> OOo
> > > since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my staff
> are
> > > complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's etc., It
> appears
> > > no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and
> unacceptable
> > > speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
> > > Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming
> more
> > > and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money
> saved
> > Thanks, Richard, for your detailed description of the difficulties you
> are
> > encountering with OOo 3 ! No doubt this account will facilitate our
> helping
> > you resolve them, which after all, is the purpose of this listserve
>
> As a counterpoint:  everyone here things 3.x is a nice improvement over
> 2.x.  I don't have any performance issues.  I can bounce around in my
> 160+ page master/sub documents and everything is nearly instantaneous.
> 
> Only slowness I see is "recalculating row height" when I've got big
> spreadsheets.

By the way, WHY does it do that? Row height should not be calculated, it
should be what I set it to be. If the font size makes need for increasing
the height, why can't just the new height be saved with the file? Then row
height doesn't need to be calculated, only read from file or memory.
Yes, I know, it's only me who don't understand, so please enlighten me. Or
not, since this thread isn't about row heights… sorry for being OT.
J.R.


>
>
> BTW, the comment/notation threading in OOo 3.1 looks awesome.  Keep up
> the great work guys.
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> 
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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[Michael Adams]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:08:14 -0500
Came this utterance formulated by Gene Young to my mailbox:

> Karl Appel wrote:
> > PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN !
> > - Original Message - From: "Spiderman" 
> 
> Warum würden Sie sich bei einem englischen Sprache, und dann
> verlangen, dass alle schreiben auf Deutsch?
> 

Gene could you explain the german language site and mailing list to
Karl, please. He may also need unsubscribe instructions for this list.
Try a private post with a subject like "[users] *ATTN: Karl Appel*"
http://de.openoffice.org/
http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html

To answer your question; although the mailing list is english only does
the website state this? He may have been directed here from one of those
sites charging for the OpenOffice.org download.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

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[users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.

[H.S.]

Richard wrote:
> OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete
> disaster that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.
> 
> I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used
> OOo since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my
> staff are complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's
> etc., It appears no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow
> and unacceptable speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
> 
> Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming
> more and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money
> saved.

I haven't experienced anything bad regarding its responsiveness as
compared to versino 2.4. This is on two different machines, on is a new
dual core machine with 4 GB ram and the other is an older 1.9GHz machine
with 1 GB RAM.

In fact, OOO 3.x is an improvement over the previous version. It has
more features, tremendous improvements in collaboration features and
slight progress in outline mode as well, to name just a few. With all
the new stuff, it is a bit slower to start up, I don't think that is
such a terrible thing, however, from what I hear, developers are working
on this and the new version will be a huge improvement in this respect
as well, among other things.

Now, till you actually give some specifics, I am inclined to think you
are a troll working just to put some matter showing negative points
regarding OOo to be found in future google search by some people.

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Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 14:36 +0100, M Henri Day wrote:
> 2009/2/27 Richard 
> > OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete disaster
> > that will loose countless users and loyal supporters
> > I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used OOo
> > since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my staff are
> > complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's etc., It appears
> > no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and unacceptable
> > speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
> > Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming more
> > and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money saved
> Thanks, Richard, for your detailed description of the difficulties you are
> encountering with OOo 3 ! No doubt this account will facilitate our helping
> you resolve them, which after all, is the purpose of this listserve

As a counterpoint:  everyone here things 3.x is a nice improvement over
2.x.  I don't have any performance issues.  I can bounce around in my
160+ page master/sub documents and everything is nearly instantaneous.

Only slowness I see is "recalculating row height" when I've got big
spreadsheets.

BTW, the comment/notation threading in OOo 3.1 looks awesome.  Keep up
the great work guys. 
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[users] spelling/grammar checker doesn't check spelling etc

[David B Teague]

Since installing the Language Tool extension, I have not been able to 
get the spelling checker to work. When I click the spelling and grammar 
button on the tool bar, only the grammar is checked, and that doesn't 
detect many grammatical errors. The rules (inside the extension) look 
good, but the extension doesn't do much.


I was in touch with the Language Tool developer but he hasn't responded 
to email recently.


Can someone tell me how to restore at least the spelling checking? I 
know a little about
Tools | Options Languages etc and the  settings in the stylist (F11), 
these have not helped the spelling checker.


OO.o 3.0.1, Windows XP SP3, AMD Sempron 2.8, 1 GB RAM

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Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[David B Teague]

OO.o 3.0.0 was slow on startup, and 3.0.1 is also slow to start, slower 
than 2.4, even with the "QuickStarter" -- which appears only to suppress 
the splash screen. I'm hoping that 3.1.0 will be significantly better. I 
just has to be better.


Occasionally OO.o stops responding. Maybe a resources lack, for I 
usually have Firefox, Thunderbird, RealPlayer and OO.o running. I think 
at least one of these has a memory leak,  since a reboot and restart 
restores much of the loss of speed.


(Somewhat OT: The culprit may be RealPlayer for if it is left running a 
long while, everything general system response is much slower.)


OO.o 3.0.1, Windows XP SP3, AMD Sempron 2.8, 1 GB RAM

David Teague

M Henri Day wrote:

2009/2/27 Richard 

  

OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete disaster
that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.

I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used OOo
since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my staff are
complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's etc., It appears
no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and unacceptable
speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.

Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming more
and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money saved.




Thanks, Richard, for your detailed description of the difficulties you are
encountering with OOo 3 ! No doubt this account will facilitate our helping
you resolve them, which after all, is the purpose of this listserve

Henri

  

Re: [users] Keyboard Shortcuts

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Brian Barker wrote:

I don't see a limited list; indeed, the list appears much larger than 
anything that can be obtained by default using the mouse.


Brian,

  I now see that there are more options in the pick list on the left side. I
somehow missed that yesterday.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious,

Rich

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Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue

[Joe]

Mike,
Wow, thanks for the wealth of information. I will get him on trying these
things today. Thanks again.
-Joe


> From: Mike Dawe 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:19:07 +1100
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [users] openoffice 2.4.0 (Mac) AND new issue
> 
> Joe wrote:
>> Mike,
>> Thanks so much for the download info. Actually, I am helping a guy with this
>> problem.  He was able to download OpenOffice 2.1 and install it from the
>> website you provided.
>> 
>> Now there are a couple of issues. Again, this is on an iMac running Panther
>> 10.3.9
>> 
>> 1). He can get OpenOffice 2.1 to open a .pps file (with some finagling) ,
>> but the fonts are so jagged and distorted that they are just about
>> unreadable.
> 
> Ask him if he has his monitor set to thousands of colors or less? If so
> (or no) he should either set his display to millions of colors and/or
> follow this hint from:
> 
> 
> "Launch X11 and open the Preferences section. On the Output tab, change
> the Colors pull-down to 'Millions' instead of 'From Display.' Restart X11."
> 
> When he installed OOo 2.1, did he click "yes" to OOo's installer request
> asking if he would like to use the Mac's own fonts? I assume (hope) that
> he would have said yes.
> 
> I installed vers 2.1 onto a Mac running Panther to test it for myself.
> The font rendering in Writer was pretty unsightly. I found that some
> fonts looked better than others. Times New Roman of all fonts was
> particularly awful. But they were legible, just not pretty (kerning or
> the lack of, my biggest issue).
> 
> I then opened a .pps file in OOo ver. 2.1, and the fonts in it were
> perfectly legible (looked much better than in Writer) and easily passed
> inspection. So...
> 
> The .pps file he is trying to open was perhaps created using fonts that
> he does not have installed or available to OOo (they may even be bitmaps
> of fonts and not actual fonts). Ask if all .pps files that he's tried,
> are rendering as badly?
> 
> If his iMac has a G4 cpu, and if he were to upgrade his OS to Tiger he
> could install OOo version 3.0 or newer, which would negate having to use
> X11. Fonts look just as good as on any Mac app in vers. 3.0
> 
> If he can't upgrade he might take a look at NeoOffice which is a Mac
> port of OOo running under Java. It doesn't require X11 and can run on
> Panther or newer.  I
> can't say how well it works as I have not tried it, myself. It is an
> option that he should be made aware of.
> 
>> 2). Second, he is unable to quit X11 without force quitting it. He does not
>> even have a menu bar up on top for X11.
>> 
>> I told him to run Disk Utility and repair permissions as well as repair the
>> disk--in case that is related to the problem. He will do that tonight, but I
>> thought I'd see if any of you Mac people were familiar with either of these
>> problems.
> 
> I don't get that issue. That is, X11 quits quickly and cleanly on my PPC
> running Panther.
> 
> If by "force quitting" X11, he means that is how he is quitting out of
> OpenOffice, then ask him to exit the (OOo) program first by choosing
> "Exit" from the "File" menu of the front most OOo window, or by typing
> "Ctrl + Q" to quit OOo. He should be able to quit X11 after OOo exits at
> that point by typing "Command + Q".
> 
> But not having a menu bar for X11 indicates that something is either
> wrong with his install or that the Finder or some other running app is
> front most when he decides that he wants to quit X11. Ask him to toggle
> his running apps to see what is running at the time. By holding the
> Command key down and tapping at the tab key, he can cycle through his
> running apps (same as in Windows with Alt + tab keys).
> 
> If he still cannot see an X11 menu bar by toggling through running apps
> then perhaps there is a problem with his install of X11.
> 
>> Thanks again for all of your help.
>> -Joe
> 
> YW Joe.
> 
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> OOo 3.0.1rc2 MacOSX PPC US English
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Re: [users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[M Henri Day]

2009/2/27 Richard 

> OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete disaster
> that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.
>
> I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used OOo
> since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my staff are
> complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's etc., It appears
> no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and unacceptable
> speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
>
> Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming more
> and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money saved.


Thanks, Richard, for your detailed description of the difficulties you are
encountering with OOo 3 ! No doubt this account will facilitate our helping
you resolve them, which after all, is the purpose of this listserve

Henri

[users] ver 3 is rubbish.

[Richard]

OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete 
disaster that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.


I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used 
OOo since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my 
staff are complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's 
etc., It appears no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow 
and unacceptable speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.


Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming 
more and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money 
saved.



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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions

[Karl Appel]

Es war ein Versehen von mir!
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From: "Gene Young" 

To: 
Cc: "Karl Appel" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.1 first impressions



Karl Appel wrote:

PLEASE ONLY IN GERMAN !
- Original Message - From: "Spiderman" 



Why would you subscribe to an English language list and then demand that 
everyone write in German?



Warum würden Sie sich bei einem englischen Sprache, und dann verlangen, 
dass alle schreiben auf Deutsch?


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Re: [users] Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office

[James Knott]

Girard Aquino wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>> I see version 3.0 is now available, which includes support for ODF v1.2.
>>
>> http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/
>>
>>   
> i just find this one amusing... OOo uses odf, but can open docx. MS
> cannot open the default format of OOo, so the makers of OOo make a
> plugin for them.. lol
>

Microsoft has promised to included ODF support in a service pack for
Office 2007.  However, I believe it's ODF 1.0 or 1.1.

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Re: [users] Re: Need help with justifications for using OOo at work.

[James Knott]

NoOp wrote:
> On 02/26/2009 03:57 PM, Leach, William R wrote:
>   
>> First, I am no longer subscribed so please cc me on any response.
>>
>> My employer, rightfully concerned about network security, is in the
>> process of blocking and removing "unsupported" software.  This action is
>> fully understandable when viewed from a security standpoint.  However,
>> individual exceptions will be granted where the exception is either
>> essential to the business activity or is significantly beneficial to the
>> company.
>>
>> I have been asked to provide a justification to continue my use of Open
>> Office.
>>
>> I am able to cite a number incidents where OOo has saved corrupted MS
>> Word documents, allowed for rapid creation of drawings, royalty free
>> generation of PDFs, and several other examples.
>>
>> What I would like to have some help with is verifiable information
>> concerning the security of OOo (particularly compared to MS Word).
>>
>>  
>> Bill Leach
>> RWMC Publications
>> COBRA ACE
>> 533-0121
>> Pager 4165
>>  
>>
>> 
>
>
> I suppose that you could point out that Sun Microsystems purchased
> StarOffice for the purpose of avoiding thousands of MS Office licenses,
> and that Sun (the primary holder of the OOo keys) continue to use OOo &
> StarOffice within their own corporation today. Further, Novell, another
> major contributor do the same.
>
>   

IBM too.

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Re: [users] USING OPEN OFFICE

[James Knott]

John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:15:15 +
> david alistair baines  dijo:
>
>   
>> I have just install the full suite of Open Office. I wanted to find an
>> alternative to MS. Power Point in Open Office but I cannot find it?   Also
>> other MS. alternatives, such as Word, Excel, etc.
>> 
>
> Word = Writer
> Excel = Calc
> Powerpoint = Impress
> Access = Base
>
> Having said that, while OOo has just about all the features of MS
> Office, plus a few extras, you will find that all the buttons are in
> different places and have different names. In the short run you will be
> frustrated trying to figure out how OOo works, but people on this list
> will help. Even dumb questions are welcome. And in the long run, you'll
> be glad you made the switch.
>   
Why would he be frustrated? I've introduced a few people to OpenOffice
and I don't recall them being frustrated.


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Re: [users] USING OPEN OFFICE

[James Knott]

david alistair baines wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just install the full suite of Open Office. I wanted to find an
> alternative to MS. Power Point in Open Office but I cannot find it?   Also
> other MS. alternatives, such as Word, Excel, etc.
>
>   

Assuming you're running Windows, you should find an OpenOffice folder &
icons in your Start menu.  The icons include "Writer", "Calc", &
"Impress", which can be used for Word, Excel and PowerPoint files.  If
you don't see those, perhaps you only downloaded, but didn't install
OpenOffice.


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Re: [users] Insert a row & column

[Jean Lear]

Hello
I used to have this problem of inserting columns through merged cells but
was
very pleased to find that there is now an extension that will let you do
this.
It is - CalcEasy Toolbar - Found in the Extensions -
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org
It will -
"1. Insert new toolbar which allow user add/remove columns or rows.
2. Allow user to perform mass vertical or horizontal merge easily for range
of cell"
Hope this helps.
Jean


On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, JOE Conner  wrote:

> manoj.agar...@adityabirla.com wrote:
>
>> Dear Support Team,
>>
>> How can I insert a row or column inbetween merged row or column.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manoj Agarwal
>>
>>
> You must unmerge the row or column first, then insert your row or column,
> then remerge.
> Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA
>
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