Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On Jan 10, 2014, at 16:17, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: > Can someone please explain this to me? I would expect "bin" and "obj" not to > show up in the "svn status" command, because of the svn:global-ignores > property. > The mac client is 1.7, and the windows client is 1.8 if that makes any > difference. These are separate working copies. I would not expect the two > clients to be compatible with each other on a shared WC. It does; svn:global-ignores is new to SVN 1.8. http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.8.html#repos-dictated-config If you upgrade the Mac client to 1.8.x, it should honor svn:global-ignores. -- Name: Dave Huang | Mammal, mammal / their names are called / INet: k...@azeotrope.org | they raise a paw / the bat, the cat / FurryMUCK: Dahan | dolphin and dog / koala bear and hog -- TMBG Dahan: Hani G Y+C 38 Y++ L+++ W- C++ T++ A+ E+ S++ V++ F- Q+++ P+ B+ PA+ PL++
RE: ignore property not ignoring...
> From: Dave Huang [mailto:k...@azeotrope.org] > > It does; svn:global-ignores is new to SVN 1.8. > http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.8.html#repos-dictated- > config That's just about the last thing I expected, but it makes perfect sense now. Thanks. > If you upgrade the Mac client to 1.8.x, it should honor svn:global-ignores. Easier said than done. svn ships with XCode, distributed in the App Store, which I have the latest installed today... But no problem. I can workaround by setting svn:ignore instead. Thanks again.
RE: ignore property not ignoring...
> From: Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) [mailto:s...@nedharvey.com] > > But no problem. I can workaround by setting svn:ignore instead. Uggh. I *thought* this would be easy. Even though I have svn:ignore set on some directories, TortoiseSVN 1.8 and cygwin svn 1.8 fail to ignore the stuff specified. It seems, I *must* add the svn:global-ignores property in order to get svn 1.8 to ignore. Likewise, of course having svn:global-ignores set on those directories fails for svn 1.7. So I have to just duplicate the svn:ignore and svn:global-ignores properties everywhere that anything needs to be ignored. :-(
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On 1/10/14, 2:29 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: Easier said than done. svn ships with XCode, distributed in the App Store, which I have the latest installed today... But no problem. I can workaround by setting svn:ignore instead. I install Subversion on the Mac via MacPorts, which has had 1.8.X for quite some time. You might try that route, rather than just relying on XCode. Eric
RE: ignore property not ignoring...
> From: Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) [mailto:s...@nedharvey.com] > > So I have to just duplicate the svn:ignore and svn:global-ignores > properties everywhere that anything needs to be ignored. Sorry, clarification: In tortoise, I check the properties of some directory, and it shows "svn:ignore bin obj" and some other stuff. But it's gray. So I assume it's inherited from a parent, and effective at this level, and then it turns out, not to be effective. I go to command prompt, and I see in fact, those properties are set on the root directory, and *not* on the subdirectory. I don't know why it's displaying grayed out, but if I explicitly set that property on that directory, then it works. So I guess this is mostly a usage issue. I could go talk to the tortoise folks about why it's showing gray, when it's not effective... And I could complain that when you click on "add to ignores" the default is now to use global-ignores rather than ignore... But it's not worth it. Thanks for your help. I think it's under control now.
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On 11.01.2014 00:17, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: >> From: Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) [mailto:s...@nedharvey.com] >> >> So I have to just duplicate the svn:ignore and svn:global-ignores >> properties everywhere that anything needs to be ignored. > Sorry, clarification: > > In tortoise, I check the properties of some directory, and it shows > "svn:ignore bin obj" and some other stuff. But it's gray. So I assume it's > inherited from a parent, and effective at this level, and then it turns out, > not to be effective. svn:ignore only affects the directory on which it is defined, not its children. > I go to command prompt, and I see in fact, those properties are set on the > root directory, and *not* on the subdirectory. I don't know why it's > displaying grayed out, but if I explicitly set that property on that > directory, then it works. > > So I guess this is mostly a usage issue. I could go talk to the tortoise > folks about why it's showing gray, when it's not effective... In 1.8, all properties are inheritable. Of course, Tortoise could be smart enough to know the meaning of the standard properties, but from the point of view of strict semantics, it's correct. > And I could complain that when you click on "add to ignores" the default is > now to use global-ignores rather than ignore... But it's not worth it. That choice is a bit harder to argue for. :) -- Brane -- Branko Čibej | Director of Subversion WANdisco // Non-Stop Data e. br...@wandisco.com
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On 1/10/14, 2:29 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: > >> > If you upgrade the Mac client to 1.8.x, it should honor svn:global-ignores. > Easier said than done. svn ships with XCode, distributed in the App Store, > which I have the latest installed today... > But no problem. I can workaround by setting svn:ignore instead. I use svn client installed by macports. It's current version is 1.8.5. You could replace XCode's svn binaries with symlinks to the version installed by macports. XCode's svn binaries are found at /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin. -- Edwin
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On Jan 10, 2014, at 17:53, Edwin Castro wrote: > On 1/10/14, 2:29 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: >> If you upgrade the Mac client to 1.8.x, it should honor svn:global-ignores. >> Easier said than done. svn ships with XCode, distributed in the App Store, >> which I have the latest installed today... >> But no problem. I can workaround by setting svn:ignore instead. > > I use svn client installed by macports. It's current version is 1.8.5. > > You could replace XCode's svn binaries with symlinks to the version > installed by macports. XCode's svn binaries are found at > /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin. You should not modify Apple software. Things may break.
RE: ignore property not ignoring...
> From: Edwin Castro [mailto:0ptikgh...@gmx.us] > > I use svn client installed by macports. It's current version is 1.8.5. I've been down that road before. Macports is mostly reliable, but not entirely reliable. And every time you apply some update to XCode, apple replaces with default binaries again, which you won't know by default, until you step into some pitfall and waste time figuring it out. And I've run into a lot of conflicts between macports and homebrew... If you need 1.8, I'll agree, thanks to macports, there *is* a solution available. But I'm choosing not to go that route... Thanks...
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On 1/11/14, 6:18 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) wrote: >> From: Edwin Castro [mailto:0ptikgh...@gmx.us] >> >> I use svn client installed by macports. It's current version is 1.8.5. > > I've been down that road before. Macports is mostly reliable, but not > entirely reliable. And every time you apply some update to XCode, apple > replaces with default binaries again, which you won't know by default, until > you step into some pitfall and waste time figuring it out. And I've run into > a lot of conflicts between macports and homebrew... > > If you need 1.8, I'll agree, thanks to macports, there *is* a solution > available. But I'm choosing not to go that route... Thanks... > Sure, no problem. Then you'll need to specify svn:ignore on each directory where it applies or set it in your subversion configuration (which only applies to you) ... FYI: I don't use homebrew but https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/subversion.rb suggests they have subversion at 1.8.5. -- Edwin
Re: ignore property not ignoring...
On Jan 11, 2014, at 08:18, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> I use svn client installed by macports. It's current version is 1.8.5. > > I've been down that road before. Macports is mostly reliable, but not > entirely reliable. I’m a manager of the MacPorts project. If you’re experiencing any problems with MacPorts, please contact us on the macports-users mailing list or file a ticket in our issue tracker. > And every time you apply some update to XCode, apple replaces with default > binaries again, which you won't know by default, until you step into some > pitfall and waste time figuring it out. Yes, you should not replace Apple software; that route only leads to sadness. > And I've run into a lot of conflicts between macports and homebrew… That’s to be expected. Use one package manager only, not a mix of two or more; more sadness there. > If you need 1.8, I'll agree, thanks to macports, there *is* a solution > available. But I'm choosing not to go that route... Thanks... MacPorts Subversion works fine; I use it daily.
RE: ignore property not ignoring...
> > From: Edward Ned Harvey (svn4) [mailto:s...@nedharvey.com] > > > > So I have to just duplicate the svn:ignore and svn:global-ignores > > properties everywhere that anything needs to be ignored. > > Sorry, clarification: > > In tortoise, I check the properties of some directory, and it shows > "svn:ignore > bin obj" and some other stuff. But it's gray. So I assume it's inherited > from a > parent, and effective at this level, and then it turns out, not to be > effective. I > go to command prompt, and I see in fact, those properties are set on the > root directory, and *not* on the subdirectory. I don't know why it's > displaying grayed out, but if I explicitly set that property on that > directory, > then it works. > > So I guess this is mostly a usage issue. I could go talk to the tortoise > folks > about why it's showing gray, when it's not effective... And I could complain > that when you click on "add to ignores" the default is now to use global- > ignores rather than ignore... But it's not worth it. In 1.8 all properties are automatically inherited. Tortoise SVN shows those as gray so you know they were inherited. That said, the 1.8 client only acts on specific properties that were inherited. svn:global-ignores and svn:auto-props. I think there was some talk on the TSVN list to have a check box to "show inherited". But, not sure if that will happen. > > Thanks for your help. I think it's under control now. BOb
