Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Gerolf Seitz
i think i have an integration for the latest nifty libs [0]  lying around
haven't looked at it in quite a while, so maybe it's not that good anyway :)

  gerolf

[0] http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Nino Martinez nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look great..

 So I'll want to make a contrib for this :
 http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas 
 http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a better
 suggestion?

 WDYT?

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Steve Swinsburg
s.swinsb...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
 or the simple CSS you can apply yourself.
 .roundedThing {
 -moz-border-radius: 5px;
 -webkit-border-radius: 5px;
 }
 however that may not be 100% across all browsers.

Which is great: it rewards users that have up-to-date browsers that
aren't locked in the previous century with a much prettier UI, whilst
still having a functioning app.

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Swinsburg
The liquidcanvas seems to be working fine on Safari 3.2.1. I'm all for  
a jQuery plugin as they generally seems to be more cross browser  
compatible.


There is also jQuery corners:
http://www.atblabs.com/jquery.corners.html

or the simple CSS you can apply yourself.

.roundedThing {
-moz-border-radius: 5px;
-webkit-border-radius: 5px;
}

however that may not be 100% across all browsers.

And yeah this is mixing style with code if you have it in a Wicket  
library.




cheers,
Steve






On 22 Dec 2008, at 05:15, Ned Collyer wrote:



FYI, I cannot see the liquid stuff with the latest firefox on osx  
leopard -

its borked.

Also looks like crap in safari :)

Soo bring on the nifty - but I wouldn't waste your time on  
liquid canvas

because I do not believe the browser support (currently) warrants your
effort.

I think it would be valuable to add support AFTER nifty corners -  
but if the
browsers never play nice, you will have wasted a bit of time.  Sure  
you
might have learned something cool, so perhaps thats not so bad, but  
if the
Liquid Canvas becomes defunct - then you're carrying baggage that  
will never
reach its potential of awesome - and it could be a deterrent from  
using your

lib.

I hope I have conveyed my thoughts adequately - and not quelled  
passionate

development :)


Nino Martinez-2 wrote:


Ok cool.. I heard that nifty corners require less cpu and are smaller
than liquid... Thats why I want to support the two...

I'll go ahead and hack something together :)



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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Nino Martinez
Yeah it's good. But depends highly on your use case.. In most of my 
cases we cant afford to miss too many people..


Most people just don't care what browser they have, they just want the 
sites they visit to look good, and if their browser just not happen to 
support css 3 then they do not believe it's their fault the site looks 
crappy.


Regards Nino

Martijn Dashorst wrote:

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Steve Swinsburg
s.swinsb...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
  

or the simple CSS you can apply yourself.
.roundedThing {
-moz-border-radius: 5px;
-webkit-border-radius: 5px;
}
however that may not be 100% across all browsers.



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aren't locked in the previous century with a much prettier UI, whilst
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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Nino Martinez
can you put it here somewhere appropriate i'll correct it to a working 
state then::


https://wicket-stuff.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wicket-stuff/trunk/wicketstuff-core/artwork-parent/artwork


Gerolf Seitz wrote:

i think i have an integration for the latest nifty libs [0]  lying around
haven't looked at it in quite a while, so maybe it's not that good anyway :)

  gerolf

[0] http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html

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wrote:



  

Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look great..

So I'll want to make a contrib for this :
http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas 
http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a better
suggestion?

WDYT?

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Ned Collyer

Ok - so I investigated a bit more - turns out I had a greasemonkey script
messing with it.  DOH.

It looks beautiful :) - all works now.  (and turns out safari is ok - i was
under the impression example 7 was misbehaving).

Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Jim Pinkham
FYI - I was curious about that so I ran:

http://browsershots.org/http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

-- Jim Pinkham

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Martijn Dashorst 
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Steve Swinsburg
 s.swinsb...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
  or the simple CSS you can apply yourself.
  .roundedThing {
  -moz-border-radius: 5px;
  -webkit-border-radius: 5px;
  }
  however that may not be 100% across all browsers.

 Which is great: it rewards users that have up-to-date browsers that
 aren't locked in the previous century with a much prettier UI, whilst
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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Nino Martinez

Ned Collyer wrote:

Ok - so I investigated a bit more - turns out I had a greasemonkey script
messing with it.  DOH.

It looks beautiful :) - all works now.  (and turns out safari is ok - i was
under the impression example 7 was misbehaving).

Sorry for the confusion.
  
Ok good to hear, I were starting to get a bit puzzled.. Not something 
unusual though..


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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-22 Thread Nino Martinez
Yeah as I mentioned not all browsers support that css3 function.. 
However I was surprised to see that IE8 did'nt pick it up, I guess m$ 
just havent gotten around to it yet.




Jim Pinkham wrote:

FYI - I was curious about that so I ran:

http://browsershots.org/http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

-- Jim Pinkham

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Martijn Dashorst 
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:

  

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Steve Swinsburg
s.swinsb...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:


or the simple CSS you can apply yourself.
.roundedThing {
-moz-border-radius: 5px;
-webkit-border-radius: 5px;
}
however that may not be 100% across all browsers.
  

Which is great: it rewards users that have up-to-date browsers that
aren't locked in the previous century with a much prettier UI, whilst
still having a functioning app.

Martijn

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-21 Thread Ned Collyer

FYI, I cannot see the liquid stuff with the latest firefox on osx leopard -
its borked.

Also looks like crap in safari :)

Soo bring on the nifty - but I wouldn't waste your time on liquid canvas
because I do not believe the browser support (currently) warrants your
effort.

I think it would be valuable to add support AFTER nifty corners - but if the
browsers never play nice, you will have wasted a bit of time.  Sure you
might have learned something cool, so perhaps thats not so bad, but if the
Liquid Canvas becomes defunct - then you're carrying baggage that will never
reach its potential of awesome - and it could be a deterrent from using your
lib.

I hope I have conveyed my thoughts adequately - and not quelled passionate
development :)


Nino Martinez-2 wrote:
 
 Ok cool.. I heard that nifty corners require less cpu and are smaller 
 than liquid... Thats why I want to support the two...
 
 I'll go ahead and hack something together :)
 

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-21 Thread Nino Martinez

Ned Collyer wrote:

FYI, I cannot see the liquid stuff with the latest firefox on osx leopard -
its borked.
  
Hmm, I tried browsershots 
http://browsershots.org/http://www.ruzee.com/files/liquid-canvas/demo.html 
, but could'nt get any ugly or broken pages...? Click the link and see 
the screens.

Also looks like crap in safari :)
  
Seems the same as the others on windows and mac and the same as the rest 
of the browsers at least on browser shots aswell...

Soo bring on the nifty - but I wouldn't waste your time on liquid canvas
because I do not believe the browser support (currently) warrants your
effort.

I think it would be valuable to add support AFTER nifty corners - but if the
browsers never play nice, you will have wasted a bit of time.  Sure you
might have learned something cool, so perhaps thats not so bad, but if the
Liquid Canvas becomes defunct - then you're carrying baggage that will never
reach its potential of awesome - and it could be a deterrent from using your
lib.

I hope I have conveyed my thoughts adequately - and not quelled passionate
development :)
  
Sure, we just need to figure out if liquid canvas are working or not. 
Although a quick reply would be nicer next time, im only a hour or two 
away from the first release of Wicketstuff Artwork, which brings liquid 
canvas. Integrating a new thing like this usually takes me something 
like 7 hours or so..


Thanks for the input :)


Nino Martinez-2 wrote:
  
Ok cool.. I heard that nifty corners require less cpu and are smaller 
than liquid... Thats why I want to support the two...


I'll go ahead and hack something together :)




  



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Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-19 Thread Nino Martinez

Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look great..

So I'll want to make a contrib for this : 
http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas  
http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a 
better suggestion?


WDYT?

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-19 Thread Jeremy Thomerson
I like Liquid Canvas - hadn't seen it before.  I would use it if you made an
integration with Wicket.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Nino Martinez nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look great..

 So I'll want to make a contrib for this :
 http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas 
 http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a better
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 WDYT?

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Locke


this was one little use case i wanted at the outset.
it should be easy to make things pretty.

but i think i might take a different approach now.
before, i was thinking along the lines of this:

new RoundedPanel(...)

but these days i wonder if it might not be smarter
to have a behavior you could mix into any component:

component.add(new RoundedCorners(...))

or 

component.add(new DropShadow(...))

you could even use visitChildren() to add a drop shadow 
to a given class of components on a page...


Nino Martinez-2 wrote:
 
 Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look
 great..
 
 So I'll want to make a contrib for this : 
 http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas  
 http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a 
 better suggestion?
 
 WDYT?
 
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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-19 Thread Nino Martinez
Yes exactly my thoughts (behaviors).. Although you are then messing up 
UI styling and code. But the ide of being able todo pretty pages simply 
would be very cool.


Jonathan Locke wrote:

this was one little use case i wanted at the outset.
it should be easy to make things pretty.

but i think i might take a different approach now.
before, i was thinking along the lines of this:

new RoundedPanel(...)

but these days i wonder if it might not be smarter
to have a behavior you could mix into any component:

component.add(new RoundedCorners(...))

or 


component.add(new DropShadow(...))

you could even use visitChildren() to add a drop shadow 
to a given class of components on a page...



Nino Martinez-2 wrote:
  

Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look
great..

So I'll want to make a contrib for this : 
http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas  
http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a 
better suggestion?


WDYT?

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Re: Round corners n' stuff? Possible Contribution?

2008-12-19 Thread Nino Martinez
Ok cool.. I heard that nifty corners require less cpu and are smaller 
than liquid... Thats why I want to support the two...


I'll go ahead and hack something together :)

Jeremy Thomerson wrote:

I like Liquid Canvas - hadn't seen it before.  I would use it if you made an
integration with Wicket.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Nino Martinez nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com
  

wrote:



  

Im fed up with all the different approaches to make your pages look great..

So I'll want to make a contrib for this :
http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas 
http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html unless somebody has a better
suggestion?

WDYT?

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