Re: [xwiki-users] xwiki and mysql5 fails

2007-09-21 Thread ossi petz
hallo

well i only read the 'optional' thing on the xar download ;p
so no, i did not install it - i just 'closed' anonymous usage. i will 
give mr superadmin a start :)

an installation wizard would be cool! :)

 >> in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php
 >> guys
 >> came up with.
 >
 > Not sure what it has to do with PHP but I definitely agree about the
 > installation wizard.

i only compare the two worlds. xwiki is not the only 'messy' 
installation based on java.war. its some common standard to let everyone 
configure the same things. the standalone installers are great for 
evaluation! but once chosen, there will be some productive database, app 
server already. a standalone installation would mean more maintainance.

actually a lot of php based software worked the same way. there was 
always a conig.php file one needed to edit. today the well known 
applications come with wizards. and it is an unbeatable comfort.

well you plan to do one, so enough arguments where given :)

thanks for listening!
regards

ossi




Vincent Massol schrieb:
> Hi ossi,
> 
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 10:59 AM, ossi petz wrote:
> 
>> Hallooo
>>
>> Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
>> after a click around-round on
>> http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
>> and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default
>> administration accont.
>>
>> is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
>> or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?
> 
> Doesn't superadmin work for you? (it's meant for these kinds of  
> situations).
> 
> If you have imported the default XAR for XE then yes there's an Admin  
> user created. User: Admin, Password: admin
> 
>> When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used  
>> from php
>> based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:
>>
>>   - upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
>>   - connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
>>   - when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
>>   - it asks for the database connection parameters
>>   - it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
>>   - it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default  
>> files)
>>   - in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that
>> .xar could be added
>>   - done. a link to the startpage
>>   - now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
>>   - if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be
>> done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit
>> strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.
>>
>> the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security
>> params whatsoever.
>>
>> in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the
>> location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps.
>> everything crucial to the application.
> 
> ok, I understand and I agree. We need an Installation Wizard.
> 
>> the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight
>> forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D
> 
> I agree.
> 
>> in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php  
>> guys
>> came up with.
> 
> Not sure what it has to do with PHP but I definitely agree about the  
> installation wizard.
> 
> That said for now we have something even easier with the standalone  
> installation (the one that bundles everything) but I agree it doesn't  
> let you choose your container and your DB so we need that  
> installation wizard.
> 
> I have created this jira issue:
> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1761
> 
> Thanks for this feedback!
> -Vincent
> 
>> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>>> Hi ossi,
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
>>>
 Hallo

 I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it
 didnt
 work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
 solve the security trouble i had at that moment.

 i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect
 and
 OH see! it works! :-)
>>> Glad you got it working!
>>>
 yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version  
 4.1 to
 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
 requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
 installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql
 4.0, 4.1
 and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
 hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for
 improvement :)
>>> Well there are 2 options when installing:
>>>
>>> 1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the
>>> standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's
>>> nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
>>>
>>> 2) User wants control on his container + DB

Re: [xwiki-users] I page Bookmark

2007-09-21 Thread shivshan

Hi Kyle,
If you are looking for the Table of Contents, there is a toc macro already
available with XWiki. Just put
#toc("" "" "")
at the beginning of the page and it will generate the toc. More details
here:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/TocMacro
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/TocMacro 
Regards
Shiva


kschlap wrote:
> 
> I would like to borrow something from how wikipedia orders their pages
> with a table of contents section at the beginning of each section. 
> However, I don't know how to create in page hyperlinks.  I would like to
> be able to click on a link then have it bring me to a section of the page. 
> Does anybody have a tutorial of how to do this, or is it easy enough you
> can just tell me?  Thanks for any help.
> -Kyle
> 

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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
WikiManager depend on ApplicationManager
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerPlugin. The
documentation need improvements and thanks to you I'm updating it :)

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Makes sense, although I get an error now:
> Error number 4001 in 4: Error while parsing velocity page
> WikiManager.WebHome Wrapped Exception: Invocation of method 'get' in
> class com.xpn.xwiki.api.XWiki threw exception
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/applicationmanager/core/doc/objects/classes/Abstrac
> tSuperClass @ WikiManager.WebHome1,28
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 14:11
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise
> Manager1.0Milestone1Released
>
> You need to register plugins in xwiki.cfg in "xwiki.plugins" field, for
> WikiManager it is "com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.wikimanager.WikiManagerPlugin".
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and
> > installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the
> > WikiManager.WebHome:
> >
> > ---
> > Wikis
> >
> > wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size() wikimanager.createwiki
> >
> > wikimanager.listwikiempty
> > ---
> >
> > Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both
> > xar's are installed on the "main" server.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> > Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager
> > 1.0Milestone1Released
> >
> > Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and
> > application in
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at
> > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and
> > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
>
> > > quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on
> > > ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to
> > > have XWikiApplicationClass
> > >
> > (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplicatio
> > n)
> > .
> > >
> > > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this
> > > > morning
> >
> > > > :)
> > > > )
> > > > Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing
> > > > main wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> > > > Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> > > > To: XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> > > > Milestone1Released
> > > >
> > > > Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
> > > >
> > > > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > Clarification:
> > > > > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate
> wiki?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > > > > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > > > > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > > > > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> > > > > Milestone 1Released
> > > > >
> > > > > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of
>
> > > > > XWiki
> > > >
> > > > > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage
>
> > > > > a
> >
> > > > > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis
> > > > > from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc.
> > > > > Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known
> > > > > as "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
> > > > >
> > > > > Features in 1.0M1:
> > > > >
> > > > >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> > > > >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application
> > > > > translations
> > > >
> > > > > pages bundled with XEM
> > > > >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> > > > >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > > >o Create new empty wiki
> > > > >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> > > > >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> > > > >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > > >o Create new application descriptor
> > > > >o Delete application descriptor
> > > > >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal
> > plugin
> > > > >o Import app

Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki EnterpriseManager1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon

 From the links below, I have four files:
1) xwiki-plugin-wiki-manager-1.0-milestone-1.jar
   placed in the "web-inf/lib" folder
2) xwiki-plugin-application-manager-1.0-milestone-1.jar
   also placed in the "web-inf/lib" folder
3) xwiki-application-wiki-manager-1.0-milestone-1.xar
   installed into the main xwiki
4) xwiki-application-application-manager-1.0-milestone-1.xar
   also installed into the main wiki

Going to shutdown full servre (eliminate any spare processes that may be
holding it open) and try again.  Most likely something daft :)

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Vincent Massol
Sent: 21 September 2007 14:21
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki
EnterpriseManager1.0Milestone1Released

Brandon,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:

> Makes sense, although I get an error now:
> Error number 4001 in 4: Error while parsing velocity page 
> WikiManager.WebHome Wrapped Exception: Invocation of method 'get' in 
> class com.xpn.xwiki.api.XWiki threw exception
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/applicationmanager/core/doc/objects/classes/
> Abstrac
> tSuperClass @ WikiManager.WebHome1,28

As Thomas mentioned in his previous emails you also need to install the
Application Manager plugin.

-Vincent

>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 14:11
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise 
> Manager1.0Milestone1Released
>
> You need to register plugins in xwiki.cfg in "xwiki.plugins" field, 
> for WikiManager it is 
> "com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.wikimanager.WikiManagerPlugin".
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and 
>> installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the
>> WikiManager.WebHome:
>>
>> ---
>> Wikis
>>
>> wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size() wikimanager.createwiki
>>
>> wikimanager.listwikiempty
>> ---
>>
>> Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both 
>> xar's are installed on the "main" server.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
>> Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
>> To: XWiki Users
>> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 
>> 1.0Milestone1Released
>>
>> Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in 
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and 
>> application in 
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.
>>
>> 2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at 
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and 
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
>
>>> quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on 
>>> ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to 
>>> have XWikiApplicationClass
>>>
>> (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/
>> ApplicationManagerApplicatio
>> n)
>> .
>>>
>>> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this 
 morning
>>
 :)
 )
 Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main

 wiki, or must replace my main wiki?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
 Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
 Milestone1Released

 Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.

 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate
> wiki?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
> Milestone 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of
>
> XWiki

> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage
>
> a
>>
> farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis 
> from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc.
> Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known as 
> "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application 
> translations

> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the d

Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Brandon,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:

> Makes sense, although I get an error now:
> Error number 4001 in 4: Error while parsing velocity page
> WikiManager.WebHome Wrapped Exception: Invocation of method 'get' in
> class com.xpn.xwiki.api.XWiki threw exception
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/applicationmanager/core/doc/objects/classes/ 
> Abstrac
> tSuperClass @ WikiManager.WebHome1,28

As Thomas mentioned in his previous emails you also need to install  
the Application Manager plugin.

-Vincent

>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf
> Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 14:11
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise
> Manager1.0Milestone1Released
>
> You need to register plugins in xwiki.cfg in "xwiki.plugins" field,  
> for
> WikiManager it is  
> "com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.wikimanager.WikiManagerPlugin".
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and
>> installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the
>> WikiManager.WebHome:
>>
>> ---
>> Wikis
>>
>> wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size() wikimanager.createwiki
>>
>> wikimanager.listwikiempty
>> ---
>>
>> Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both
>> xar's are installed on the "main" server.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
>> Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
>> To: XWiki Users
>> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager
>> 1.0Milestone1Released
>>
>> Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and
>> application in
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.
>>
>> 2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
>
>>> quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on
>>> ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to
>>> have XWikiApplicationClass
>>>
>> (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ 
>> ApplicationManagerApplicatio
>> n)
>> .
>>>
>>> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this
 morning
>>
 :)
 )
 Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing
 main wiki, or must replace my main wiki?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
 Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
 To: XWiki Users
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
 Milestone1Released

 Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.

 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate
> wiki?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> Milestone 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of
>
> XWiki

> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage
>
> a
>>
> farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis
> from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc.
> Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known
> as "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application
> translations

> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the default wiki template based on XE
>  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new empty wiki
>o Create new wiki from template wiki
>o Create new wiki from XAR file
>  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new application descriptor
>o Delete application descriptor
>o Export application based on XWiki Package internal
>> plugin
>o Import application based on XWiki Package internal
>> plugin
>o Support applications dependencies
>o Children wikis can reference documents located in
> the
>>
> template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> maintenance
>o Suppo

Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon
Makes sense, although I get an error now:
Error number 4001 in 4: Error while parsing velocity page
WikiManager.WebHome Wrapped Exception: Invocation of method 'get' in
class com.xpn.xwiki.api.XWiki threw exception
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/applicationmanager/core/doc/objects/classes/Abstrac
tSuperClass @ WikiManager.WebHome1,28 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Thomas Mortagne
Sent: 21 September 2007 14:11
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise
Manager1.0Milestone1Released

You need to register plugins in xwiki.cfg in "xwiki.plugins" field, for
WikiManager it is "com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.wikimanager.WikiManagerPlugin".

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and 
> installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the
> WikiManager.WebHome:
>
> ---
> Wikis
>
> wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size() wikimanager.createwiki
>
> wikimanager.listwikiempty
> ---
>
> Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both 
> xar's are installed on the "main" server.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 
> 1.0Milestone1Released
>
> Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in 
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and 
> application in 
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.
>
> 2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at 
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and 
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with

> > quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on 
> > ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to 
> > have XWikiApplicationClass
> >
> (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplicatio
> n)
> .
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this 
> > > morning
>
> > > :)
> > > )
> > > Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing 
> > > main wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > > Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> > > Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> > > To: XWiki Users
> > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
> > > Milestone1Released
> > >
> > > Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
> > >
> > > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Clarification:
> > > > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate
wiki?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > On Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > > > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > > > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
> > > > Milestone 1Released
> > > >
> > > > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of

> > > > XWiki
> > >
> > > > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> > > >
> > > > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage

> > > > a
>
> > > > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis 
> > > > from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc.
> > > > Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known 
> > > > as "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
> > > >
> > > > Features in 1.0M1:
> > > >
> > > >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> > > >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application 
> > > > translations
> > >
> > > > pages bundled with XEM
> > > >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> > > >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > >o Create new empty wiki
> > > >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> > > >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> > > >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > >o Create new application descriptor
> > > >o Delete application descriptor
> > > >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal
> plugin
> > > >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal
> plugin
> > > >o Support applications dependencies
> > > >o Children wikis can reference documents located in 
> > > > the
>
> > > > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing 
> > > > maintenance
> > > >o Support translations documents
> > > >
> > > > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Release

Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
You need to register plugins in xwiki.cfg in "xwiki.plugins" field,
for WikiManager it is
"com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.wikimanager.WikiManagerPlugin".

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and
> installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the
> WikiManager.WebHome:
>
> ---
> Wikis
>
> wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size()
> wikimanager.createwiki
>
> wikimanager.listwikiempty
> ---
>
> Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both xar's
> are installed on the "main" server.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager
> 1.0Milestone1Released
>
> Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and
> application in
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.
>
> 2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
> > quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on
> > ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to
> > have XWikiApplicationClass
> >
> (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplication)
> .
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this morning
>
> > > :)
> > > )
> > > Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main
> > > wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> > > Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> > > To: XWiki Users
> > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> > > Milestone1Released
> > >
> > > Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
> > >
> > > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Clarification:
> > > > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > > > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > > > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > > > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> > > > Milestone 1Released
> > > >
> > > > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of
> > > > XWiki
> > >
> > > > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> > > >
> > > > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a
>
> > > > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis
> > > > from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc.
> > > > Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known as
> > > > "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
> > > >
> > > > Features in 1.0M1:
> > > >
> > > >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> > > >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application
> > > > translations
> > >
> > > > pages bundled with XEM
> > > >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> > > >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > >o Create new empty wiki
> > > >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> > > >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> > > >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > > >o Create new application descriptor
> > > >o Delete application descriptor
> > > >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal
> plugin
> > > >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal
> plugin
> > > >o Support applications dependencies
> > > >o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
>
> > > > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> > > > maintenance
> > > >o Support translations documents
> > > >
> > > > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -The XWiki dev team
> > > >
> > > > ___
> > > > users mailing list
> > > > users@xwiki.org
> > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > > ___
> > > > users mailing list
> > > > users@xwiki.org
> > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Mortagne
> > > ___
> > > users mailing list
> > > users@xwiki.org
> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > 

Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon
Hmm, I have installed the plugin into the web-inf/lib folder, and
installed both xar apps - but I get the following on the  
WikiManager.WebHome:

---
Wikis

wikimanager.totalnumberofwiki : $list.size()
wikimanager.createwiki

wikimanager.listwikiempty 
---

Note that Virtualisation is previously already in place, and both xar's
are installed on the "main" server.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Thomas Mortagne
Sent: 21 September 2007 11:03
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager
1.0Milestone1Released

Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and
application in
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.

2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at 
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and 
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with 
> quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on 
> ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to 
> have XWikiApplicationClass 
>
(http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplication)
.
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this morning

> > :)
> > )
> > Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main 
> > wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Thomas Mortagne
> > Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
> > Milestone1Released
> >
> > Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Clarification:
> > > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > > Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 
> > > Milestone 1Released
> > >
> > > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of 
> > > XWiki
> >
> > > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> > >
> > > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a

> > > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis 
> > > from templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. 
> > > Basically it's meant to implement the feature previously known as 
> > > "Virtual Wikis", but as a product and with a UI.
> > >
> > > Features in 1.0M1:
> > >
> > >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> > >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application 
> > > translations
> >
> > > pages bundled with XEM
> > >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> > >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > >o Create new empty wiki
> > >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> > >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> > >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > >o Create new application descriptor
> > >o Delete application descriptor
> > >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal
plugin
> > >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal
plugin
> > >o Support applications dependencies
> > >o Children wikis can reference documents located in the

> > > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing 
> > > maintenance
> > >o Support translations documents
> > >
> > > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -The XWiki dev team
> > >
> > > ___
> > > users mailing list
> > > users@xwiki.org
> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > ___
> > > users mailing list
> > > users@xwiki.org
> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
>


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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
Sorry wrong copy/paste WikiManager plugin is in
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerPlugin and
application in http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication.

2007/9/21, Thomas Mortagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
> quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on
> ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to
> have XWikiApplicationClass
> (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplication).
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this morning :)
> > )
> > Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main
> > wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Thomas Mortagne
> > Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> > To: XWiki Users
> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> > Milestone1Released
> >
> > Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Clarification:
> > > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
> > > 1Released
> > >
> > > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
> >
> > > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> > >
> > > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a
> > > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
> > > templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
> > > meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis",
> > > but as a product and with a UI.
> > >
> > > Features in 1.0M1:
> > >
> > >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> > >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
> >
> > > pages bundled with XEM
> > >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> > >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > >o Create new empty wiki
> > >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> > >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> > >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> > >o Create new application descriptor
> > >o Delete application descriptor
> > >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> > >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> > >o Support applications dependencies
> > >o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
> > > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> > > maintenance
> > >o Support translations documents
> > >
> > > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -The XWiki dev team
> > >
> > > ___
> > > users mailing list
> > > users@xwiki.org
> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > ___
> > > users mailing list
> > > users@xwiki.org
> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
You just need WikiManager plugin and xar you can find at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication and
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/WikiManagerApplication with
quick instructions on how to use it. Also as WikiManager depends on
ApplicationManager you will also as to install it before a least to
have XWikiApplicationClass
(http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ApplicationManagerApplication).

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this morning :)
> )
> Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main
> wiki, or must replace my main wiki?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Thomas Mortagne
> Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
> To: XWiki Users
> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
> Milestone1Released
>
> Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.
>
> 2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Clarification:
> > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
> > 1Released
> >
> > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
>
> > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> >
> > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a
> > farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
> > templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
> > meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis",
> > but as a product and with a UI.
> >
> > Features in 1.0M1:
> >
> >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
>
> > pages bundled with XEM
> >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> >o Create new empty wiki
> >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> >o Create new application descriptor
> >o Delete application descriptor
> >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> >o Support applications dependencies
> >o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
> > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> > maintenance
> >o Support translations documents
> >
> > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
> >
> > Thanks
> > -The XWiki dev team
> >
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@xwiki.org
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon
Ah, ok faster than my reply :)
Already have several virtual wiki's, so setup won't be a problem. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Vincent Massol
Sent: 21 September 2007 10:48
To: XWiki Users
Cc: XWiki Developers
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
Milestone1Released

Hi Brandon,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:

> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?

It is, however since the development is modular you could also transform
an existing wiki into a XEM wiki by:
* adding virtual=1 in xwiki.cfg + generally speaking configure your wiki
as is explained on the virtualization page on xwiki.org
* installing the app manager and wiki manager plugins
* import the XEM XAR

Is that correct Thomas? Maybe we should document this too in the release
notes?

WDYT?

Thanks
-Vincent

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 
> 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki

> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a 
> farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from 
> templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's 
> meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis", 
> but as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations

> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the default wiki template based on XE
>  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new empty wiki
>o Create new wiki from template wiki
>o Create new wiki from XAR file
>  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new application descriptor
>o Delete application descriptor
>o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Support applications dependencies
>o Children wikis can reference documents located in the 
> template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing 
> maintenance
>o Support translations documents
>
> For more information see the Release notes at:
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
>
> Thanks
> -The XWiki dev team

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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
Admin guide on xwiki.org
(http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Virtualization)
already explain how to configure a wiki farm from standard wiki even
it is not specifically refer to XEM.

XEM release note refer to this documentation but we can clearly write
in it that, for now, it's a clean implementation of what can be found
in Admin Virtualization page

2007/9/21, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Brandon,
>
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:
>
> > Clarification:
> > If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
>
> It is, however since the development is modular you could also
> transform an existing wiki into a XEM wiki by:
> * adding virtual=1 in xwiki.cfg + generally speaking configure your
> wiki as is explained on the virtualization page on xwiki.org
> * installing the app manager and wiki manager plugins
> * import the XEM XAR
>
> Is that correct Thomas? Maybe we should document this too in the
> release notes?
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Vincent Massol
> > Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> > To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> > Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
> > 1Released
> >
> > The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
> > Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
> >
> > XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a
> > farm
> > of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
> > templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
> > meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis",
> > but
> > as a product and with a UI.
> >
> > Features in 1.0M1:
> >
> >  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
> >o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
> > pages bundled with XEM
> >o Create the default wiki template based on XE
> >  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> >o Create new empty wiki
> >o Create new wiki from template wiki
> >o Create new wiki from XAR file
> >  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
> >o Create new application descriptor
> >o Delete application descriptor
> >o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> >o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
> >o Support applications dependencies
> >o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
> > template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> > maintenance
> >o Support translations documents
> >
> > For more information see the Release notes at:
> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon
Ok, sorry again (must have forgotten to eat my wheaties this morning :)
) 
Does this mean I just install the manager tools to my existing main
wiki, or must replace my main wiki?

-Original Message-
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Of Thomas Mortagne
Sent: 21 September 2007 10:43
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0
Milestone1Released

Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 
> 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki

> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a 
> farm of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from 
> templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's 
> meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis", 
> but as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations

> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the default wiki template based on XE
>  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new empty wiki
>o Create new wiki from template wiki
>o Create new wiki from XAR file
>  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new application descriptor
>o Delete application descriptor
>o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Support applications dependencies
>o Children wikis can reference documents located in the 
> template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing 
> maintenance
>o Support translations documents
>
> For more information see the Release notes at:
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
>
> Thanks
> -The XWiki dev team
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Brandon,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:

> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?

It is, however since the development is modular you could also  
transform an existing wiki into a XEM wiki by:
* adding virtual=1 in xwiki.cfg + generally speaking configure your  
wiki as is explained on the virtualization page on xwiki.org
* installing the app manager and wiki manager plugins
* import the XEM XAR

Is that correct Thomas? Maybe we should document this too in the  
release notes?

WDYT?

Thanks
-Vincent

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf
> Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
> 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a  
> farm
> of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
> templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
> meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis",  
> but
> as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the default wiki template based on XE
>  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new empty wiki
>o Create new wiki from template wiki
>o Create new wiki from XAR file
>  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new application descriptor
>o Delete application descriptor
>o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Support applications dependencies
>o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
> template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> maintenance
>o Support translations documents
>
> For more information see the Release notes at:
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
>
> Thanks
> -The XWiki dev team

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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Thomas Mortagne
Yes all administration/manager tools are in a "main" wiki.

2007/9/21, Esbach, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Clarification:
> If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Vincent Massol
> Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
> Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
> 1Released
>
> The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
> Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.
>
> XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a farm
> of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
> templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
> meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis", but
> as a product and with a UI.
>
> Features in 1.0M1:
>
>  * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
>o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
> pages bundled with XEM
>o Create the default wiki template based on XE
>  * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new empty wiki
>o Create new wiki from template wiki
>o Create new wiki from XAR file
>  * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
>o Create new application descriptor
>o Delete application descriptor
>o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
>o Support applications dependencies
>o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
> template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
> maintenance
>o Support translations documents
>
> For more information see the Release notes at:
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1
>
> Thanks
> -The XWiki dev team
>
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Re: [xwiki-users] Sort error in tags

2007-09-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Sergiu/Inge,

Two things:

1) I have added a comment on http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/ 
TagCloudSnippet
2) I think the XWiki.search() code is wrong. A method that returns a  
List should never return a null. It should return an empty list (or  
throw an exception), so I propose to modify it to return an empty  
list instead. I'll send a vote since this is an API.

Thanks
-Vincent

On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Actually, you didn't solve the problem.
>
> The sort error is caused by the fact that the tagcloud panel uses a
> privileged method ($xwiki.search) which is only available in documents
> saved by an administrator. By adding a TagClass object, you just saved
> the document with your admin account, and as a side effect you allowed
> the $xwiki.search method to be executed.
>
> This is a known bug, which will be solved sometime later.
>
> Sergiu
>
> On 9/21/07, I.T. van den Dobbelsteen-Heemskerk
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Vincent,
>> I solved this issue in a different way. If I add an object  
>> Xwiki.Tagclass,
>> even if one already exists, then he error in the panel disappears.  
>> Quite
>> strange, but for now (I am still testing) good enough for me.
>> I even managed to add the Xwiki.Tagclass object in de Login page  
>> which was
>> rather difficult.
>>
>> Inge
>>
>>
>>
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>> vindt u op:
>>
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Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone 1Released

2007-09-21 Thread Esbach, Brandon
Clarification:
If I read right, the manager tool is installed as a separate wiki?  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Vincent Massol
Sent: 20 September 2007 17:03
To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users
Subject: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki Enterprise Manager 1.0 Milestone
1Released

The XWiki development team is pleased to announce the release of XWiki
Enterprise Manager (XEM) 1.0 Milestone 1.

XEM is a special wiki (based on XWiki Enterprise) used to manage a farm
of sub-wikis. It has an interface to create new sub-wikis from
templates, delete wikis, view all created wikis, etc. Basically it's
meant to implement the feature previously known as "Virtual Wikis", but
as a product and with a UI.

Features in 1.0M1:

 * XEM install page (XemManager.Install):
   o Update XWikiPreferences with all application translations
pages bundled with XEM
   o Create the default wiki template based on XE
 * All Wiki Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
   o Create new empty wiki
   o Create new wiki from template wiki
   o Create new wiki from XAR file
 * All Application Manager 1.0 Milestone 1 features:
   o Create new application descriptor
   o Delete application descriptor
   o Export application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
   o Import application based on XWiki Package internal plugin
   o Support applications dependencies
   o Children wikis can reference documents located in the
template wiki, thus preventing content duplication and easing
maintenance
   o Support translations documents

For more information see the Release notes at:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotesXEM10M1

Thanks
-The XWiki dev team

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Re: [xwiki-users] xwiki and mysql5 fails

2007-09-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi ossi,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 10:59 AM, ossi petz wrote:

> Hallooo
>
> Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
> after a click around-round on
> http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
> and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default
> administration accont.
>
> is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
> or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?

Doesn't superadmin work for you? (it's meant for these kinds of  
situations).

If you have imported the default XAR for XE then yes there's an Admin  
user created. User: Admin, Password: admin

> When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used  
> from php
> based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:
>
>   - upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
>   - connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
>   - when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
>   - it asks for the database connection parameters
>   - it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
>   - it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default  
> files)
>   - in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that
> .xar could be added
>   - done. a link to the startpage
>   - now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
>   - if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be
> done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit
> strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.
>
> the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security
> params whatsoever.
>
> in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the
> location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps.
> everything crucial to the application.

ok, I understand and I agree. We need an Installation Wizard.

> the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight
> forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D

I agree.

> in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php  
> guys
> came up with.

Not sure what it has to do with PHP but I definitely agree about the  
installation wizard.

That said for now we have something even easier with the standalone  
installation (the one that bundles everything) but I agree it doesn't  
let you choose your container and your DB so we need that  
installation wizard.

I have created this jira issue:
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1761

Thanks for this feedback!
-Vincent

> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>> Hi ossi,
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo
>>>
>>> I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it
>>> didnt
>>> work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
>>> solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
>>>
>>> i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect
>>> and
>>> OH see! it works! :-)
>>
>> Glad you got it working!
>>
>>> yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version  
>>> 4.1 to
>>> 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
>>> requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
>>> installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql
>>> 4.0, 4.1
>>> and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
>>> hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for
>>> improvement :)
>>
>> Well there are 2 options when installing:
>>
>> 1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the
>> standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's
>> nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
>>
>> 2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He
>> picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.
>>
>> For 1), setup takes under a minute.
>> For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you
>> follow the documentation.
>>
>> Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how
>> mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> ready for testing now.
>>>
>>> thanks a lot!
>>> regards
>>>
>>> ossi
>>>
>>>
>>> Vincent Massol schrieb:
 Hi ossi,

 Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)

 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation

 You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL

 The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's  
 sure is
 that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.

 Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)

 Thanks
 -Vincent

 On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:
>>
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Re: [xwiki-users] xwiki and mysql5 fails

2007-09-21 Thread Vitantonio Messa
Hi,


ossi petz wrote:
> Hallooo
> 
> Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
> after a click around-round on 
> http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
> and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default 
> administration accont.
> 
> is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
> or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?
> 
> 

If you have installed the deafault xwiki XAR, there is the administrator 
user. Username Admin / password admin.

> 
> When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used from php 
> based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:
> 
>   - upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
>   - connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
>   - when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
>   - it asks for the database connection parameters
>   - it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
>   - it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default files)
>   - in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that 
> xar could be added
>   - done. a link to the startpage
>   - now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
>   - if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be 
> done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit 
> strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.
> 
> the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security 
> params whatsoever.
> 
> in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the 
> location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps. 
> everything crucial to the application.
> 
> 
> the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight 
> forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D
> 
> in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php guys 
> came up with.
> 
> 
> thanks for listening :)
> regards
> 
> ossi
> 
> 
> 
> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>> Hi ossi,
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo
>>>
>>> I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it  
>>> didnt
>>> work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
>>> solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
>>>
>>> i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect  
>>> and
>>> OH see! it works! :-)
>> Glad you got it working!
>>
>>> yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version 4.1 to
>>> 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
>>> requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
>>> installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql  
>>> 4.0, 4.1
>>> and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
>>> hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for  
>>> improvement :)
>> Well there are 2 options when installing:
>>
>> 1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the  
>> standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's  
>> nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
>>
>> 2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He  
>> picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.
>>
>> For 1), setup takes under a minute.
>> For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you  
>> follow the documentation.
>>
>> Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how  
>> mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> ready for testing now.
>>>
>>> thanks a lot!
>>> regards
>>>
>>> ossi
>>>
>>>
>>> Vincent Massol schrieb:
 Hi ossi,

 Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)

 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation

 You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL

 The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's sure is
 that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.

 Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)

 Thanks
 -Vincent

 On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:
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Re: [xwiki-users] Sort error in tags

2007-09-21 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
Hi,

Actually, you didn't solve the problem.

The sort error is caused by the fact that the tagcloud panel uses a
privileged method ($xwiki.search) which is only available in documents
saved by an administrator. By adding a TagClass object, you just saved
the document with your admin account, and as a side effect you allowed
the $xwiki.search method to be executed.

This is a known bug, which will be solved sometime later.

Sergiu

On 9/21/07, I.T. van den Dobbelsteen-Heemskerk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Vincent,
> I solved this issue in a different way. If I add an object Xwiki.Tagclass,
> even if one already exists, then he error in the panel disappears. Quite
> strange, but for now (I am still testing) good enough for me.
> I even managed to add the Xwiki.Tagclass object in de Login page which was
> rather difficult.
>
> Inge
>
>
>
>  De disclaimer van toepassing op e-mail van de gemeente Den Haag vindt u op:
>
>  http://www.denhaag.nl/disclaimer


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[xwiki-users] Sort error in tags

2007-09-21 Thread I.T. van den Dobbelsteen-Heemskerk
Vincent,
I solved this issue in a different way. If I add an object Xwiki.Tagclass, even 
if one already exists, then he error in the panel disappears. Quite strange, 
but for now (I am still testing) good enough for me.
I even managed to add the Xwiki.Tagclass object in de Login page which was 
rather difficult.
 
Inge
 



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Re: [xwiki-users] xwiki and mysql5 fails

2007-09-21 Thread ossi petz
Hallooo

Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
after a click around-round on 
http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default 
administration accont.

is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?



When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used from php 
based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:

  - upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
  - connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
  - when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
  - it asks for the database connection parameters
  - it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
  - it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default files)
  - in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that 
.xar could be added
  - done. a link to the startpage
  - now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
  - if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be 
done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit 
strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.

the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security 
params whatsoever.

in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the 
location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps. 
everything crucial to the application.


the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight 
forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D

in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php guys 
came up with.


thanks for listening :)
regards

ossi



Vincent Massol schrieb:
> Hi ossi,
> 
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
> 
>> Hallo
>>
>> I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it  
>> didnt
>> work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
>> solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
>>
>> i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect  
>> and
>> OH see! it works! :-)
> 
> Glad you got it working!
> 
>> yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version 4.1 to
>> 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
>> requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
>> installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql  
>> 4.0, 4.1
>> and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
>> hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for  
>> improvement :)
> 
> Well there are 2 options when installing:
> 
> 1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the  
> standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's  
> nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
> 
> 2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He  
> picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.
> 
> For 1), setup takes under a minute.
> For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you  
> follow the documentation.
> 
> Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how  
> mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
>> ready for testing now.
>>
>> thanks a lot!
>> regards
>>
>> ossi
>>
>>
>> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>>> Hi ossi,
>>>
>>> Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)
>>>
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>>>
>>> You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL
>>>
>>> The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's sure is
>>> that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:
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Re: [xwiki-users] xwiki and mysql5 fails

2007-09-21 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi ossi,

On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:

> Hallo
>
> I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it  
> didnt
> work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
> solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
>
> i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect  
> and
> OH see! it works! :-)

Glad you got it working!

> yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version 4.1 to
> 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
> requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
> installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql  
> 4.0, 4.1
> and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
> hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for  
> improvement :)

Well there are 2 options when installing:

1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the  
standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's  
nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.

2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He  
picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.

For 1), setup takes under a minute.
For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you  
follow the documentation.

Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how  
mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.

Thanks
-Vincent

> ready for testing now.
>
> thanks a lot!
> regards
>
> ossi
>
>
> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>> Hi ossi,
>>
>> Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)
>>
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>>
>> You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL
>>
>> The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's sure is
>> that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.
>>
>> Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:

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