Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member
In our experience : DSSUs don't work in Storage Unit Groups at NBU 5.1 as NBU isn't clever enough to handle one unit being full and move onto another. Having said that, it shouldn't fail jobs when the DSSU is 100% full unless it hasn't found any old images which can be expired from disk (because they are on tape). So it sounds like maybe there is a problem with your staging jobs. I have had problems with staging jobs where there has been some kind of I/O error on the disk unit, which has caused the staging job to fail, but NBU has not recovered the job nor cancelled it, so another job never started (and the error wasn't picked up). I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1 so am hopeing to get upgraded in the next month or so. cheers, Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Lowenstein Sent: 14 January 2008 19:05 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member I'm on netbackup 5.1 mp4 on solaris. I set up some storage unit groups using disk staging storage units (dssus). Backups that point to these groups are only writing to the first member in the storage unit group, there's nothing being written to the second storage unit. The first storage unit is 100% full as a bunch of staging jobs haven't completed yet, but at least one backup so far has failed due to no space, even though the second member of the storage unit group is sitting there with plenty of space. After I created the storage unit groups I bounced the daemons. What am I missing here? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289) and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Citigroup Centre, Canada Square, London E14 5LB. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member
On Jan 15, 2008 5:35 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1 so am hopeing to get upgraded in the next month or so. It has certainly gotten better in each release. 5.1 wasn't all that great, 6.0 was pretty good, and I don't think we've seen any issues at all yet with 6.5.1. My only complaint with the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5.1 is that the .ds files are no longer being created when an image has been destaged. We used that in our scripts to determine how full a DSSU really was. Now I believe the only way to do it is to look up each image in the catalog and that takes a *LOT* longer - it's no longer practical to scan the DSSUs every 5 minutes. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember
I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is? Or do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape? I wrote my own disk staging script for NBU 4.5 which uses bpimmedia to list all details of all images in the DSSU then takes a minute or 2 to check the status of each, i.e. disk only / disk tape / various error statuses. Not what you'd want to run every 5 mins, but not too bad. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: 15 January 2008 12:37 To: Weber, Philip Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember On Jan 15, 2008 5:35 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1 so am hopeing to get upgraded in the next month or so. It has certainly gotten better in each release. 5.1 wasn't all that great, 6.0 was pretty good, and I don't think we've seen any issues at all yet with 6.5.1. My only complaint with the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5.1 is that the .ds files are no longer being created when an image has been destaged. We used that in our scripts to determine how full a DSSU really was. Now I believe the only way to do it is to look up each image in the catalog and that takes a *LOT* longer - it's no longer practical to scan the DSSUs every 5 minutes. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289) and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Citigroup Centre, Canada Square, London E14 5LB. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember
On Jan 15, 2008 8:11 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is? Or do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape? The DSSU is designed to be almost full all the time so a df is rather useless. What I would like to know is how space I can actually write to and that's dependent on what has already been destaged. We also keep track of how old the oldest images is on disk and also how many GB are on disk that has not been destaged. We've run into issues in the past where we're not destaging fast enough - without some good metrics you can only guess that you're done destaging before the next set of backups start up. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs. But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this. Some more information Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit) Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was there so it shouldn't overwrite it. If you are putting a full tape in the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a restore? If so, write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution. The only other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the library is so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to overwrite it. Or maybe I'm missing something. Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs. But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this. Some more information Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit) Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Looking for
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
Even if you did update the inventory, if the tape has not been expired (images no longer valid) Netbackup will know about the data and not overwrite the tape. The only issue would be if you had a tape that had already expired, which you put into the library to restore from. You would have to do an import on the tape before you could restore from it, so in the timeframe between injecting the tape in the library, and doing the import, there is a small window during which Netbackup could overwrite the tape, assuming you did not write protect or freeze the cart. Sounds like a TSM zealot spreading FUD about NBU. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: January 15, 2008 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was there so it shouldn't overwrite it. If you are putting a full tape in the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a restore? If so, write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution. The only other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the library is so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to overwrite it. Or maybe I'm missing something. Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bus.corp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs. But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this. Some more information Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit) Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with
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If you put a TSM tape in a library that is now controlled by NBU, then yes, NBU will overwrite it because it has no knowledge of the TSM database. Running an inventory isn't going to help in this situation, you will need to keep track of when TSM expires the tape so you can recycle it under NBU. If NBU put the data on tape, then no, it won't be overwritten until the retention period has expired. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX -- Joe Royer / Sr. SysAdmin / Digital Motorworks / 512-692-1028 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
I can confirm this action, as I've experienced it first hand. Where I've seen NBU find a difference between the inventory and the tape header is on a blind library (no barcode reader) or where a user has opened the door and physically manipulated tapes without updating the inventory. If you really want to eliminate the FUD overwrite problem, you need a tape library with a strain gauge on the picker arm, because we all know a full tape weighs more than an empty one. In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on there written by TSM? Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristofer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO, ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following procedure: UNIX To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question: ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1 Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM To: Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on there written by TSM? Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristofer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with TSM tapes. I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens. I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify the -o option). --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geyer, Gregory Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:41 PM To: Randy Samora; Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO, ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following procedure: UNIX To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question: ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1 Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM To: Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on there written by TSM? Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristofer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
In 2007, I received about 500 tapes written by Commvault Galaxy 5.9. I put new barcode stickers on the cartridge, loaded them in the tape library, inventoried them into the SCRTCH pool, and did not make any modifications to the media manager. It used them all without any complaints. Commvault writes their own tape format, which are not any of the known formats that netbackup will detect. I did the same thing with old AIT-1 ArcServe tapes, but did not get new barcode labels. -Jon I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with TSM tapes. I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens. I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify the -o option). --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geyer, Gregory Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:41 PM To: Randy Samora; Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO, ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following procedure: UNIX To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question: ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1 Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM To: Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on there written by TSM? Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristofer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it. NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:33:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
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Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them. Sent by GoodLink (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 08:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs. But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this. Some more information Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit) Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
It won't happen. If you really want to be retentive about this, create a volume pool called DONT_USE and move any media that you don't want to use in there. This is overkill, though. === Steven L. Sesar Lead Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst UNIX Application Services R101 The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road - MS K101 Bedford, MA 01730 tel: (781) 271-7702 fax: (781) 271-2600 mobile: (617) 519-8933 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Marelas Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them. Sent by GoodLink (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 08:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
YEAH! Go old school on that bad boy! --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Marelas Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them. Sent by GoodLink (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 08:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar : Hi, I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server. Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs. But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this. Some more information Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit) Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
Back to one of my original questions; why are you putting the tapes in the library to begin with? I think we're providing the right solution for the wrong issue. Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:26 PM To: Peter Marelas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape YEAH! Go old school on that bad boy! --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Marelas Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them. Sent by GoodLink (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 08:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)) 2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar) 3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen) 4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba) 5. Re: Backing up Leopard clients ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100 From: POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape. For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located with which retentions Thanks for your help. Gilles. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle I have specified SBT_TAPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. Thanks Regards, Ratheesh R Das M I N D S P E E D Technologies Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/2008 06:14 PM To Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE'; Regards Michael 2008/1/11,
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