Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member

2008-01-15 Thread Weber, Philip
In our experience :
 
DSSUs don't work in Storage Unit Groups at NBU 5.1 as NBU isn't clever
enough to handle one unit being full and move onto another.  Having said
that, it shouldn't fail jobs when the DSSU is 100% full unless it hasn't
found any old images which can be expired from disk (because they are on
tape).  So it sounds like maybe there is a problem with your staging
jobs.

I have had problems with staging jobs where there has been some kind of
I/O error on the disk unit, which has caused the staging job to fail,
but NBU has not recovered the job nor cancelled it, so another job never
started (and the error wasn't picked up).

I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1  so am hopeing
to get upgraded in the next month or so.

cheers, Phil

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I'm on netbackup 5.1 mp4 on solaris.

I set up some storage unit groups using disk staging storage units 
(dssus). Backups that point to these groups are only writing to the 
first member in the storage unit group, there's nothing being written to

the second storage unit.

The first storage unit is 100% full as a bunch of staging jobs haven't 
completed yet, but at least one backup so far has failed due to no 
space, even though the second member of the storage unit group is 
sitting there with plenty of space.

After I created the storage unit groups I bounced the daemons.

What am I missing here?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 15, 2008 5:35 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1  so am hopeing
 to get upgraded in the next month or so.


It has certainly gotten better in each release.  5.1 wasn't all that great,
6.0  was pretty good, and I don't think we've seen any issues at all yet
with 6.5.1.

My only complaint with the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5.1 is that the .ds files
are no longer being created when an image has been destaged.  We used that
in our scripts to determine how full a DSSU really was.  Now I believe the
only way to do it is to look up each image in the catalog and that takes a
*LOT* longer - it's no longer practical to scan the DSSUs every 5 minutes.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember

2008-01-15 Thread Weber, Philip
I'm not sure what you mean.  Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is?  Or
do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape?
 
I wrote my own disk staging script for NBU 4.5 which uses bpimmedia to
list all details of all images in the DSSU  then takes a minute or 2 to
check the status of each, i.e. disk only / disk  tape / various error
statuses.  Not what you'd want to run every 5 mins, but not too bad.
 



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On Jan 15, 2008 5:35 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1  so am
hopeing
to get upgraded in the next month or so. 

 
It has certainly gotten better in each release.  5.1 wasn't all that
great, 6.0  was pretty good, and I don't think we've seen any issues at
all yet with 6.5.1.
 
My only complaint with the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5.1 is that the .ds
files are no longer being created when an image has been destaged.  We
used that in our scripts to determine how full a DSSU really was.  Now
I believe the only way to do it is to look up each image in the catalog
and that takes a *LOT* longer - it's no longer practical to scan the
DSSUs every 5 minutes. 
 
   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 15, 2008 8:11 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm not sure what you mean.  Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is?  Or
 do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape?


The DSSU is designed to be almost full all the time so a df is rather
useless.  What I would like to know is how space I can actually write to and
that's dependent on what has already been destaged.  We also keep track of
how old the oldest images is on disk and also how many GB are on disk that
has not been destaged.

We've run into issues in the past where we're not destaging fast enough -
without some good metrics you can only guess that you're done destaging
before the next set of backups start up.

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[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread ANIL555
Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
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 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
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 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
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 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
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  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
 
  But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this.
 
  Some more information
 
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  Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was
there so it shouldn't overwrite it.  If you are putting a full tape in
the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a restore?  If so,
write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution.  The only
other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the library is
so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to overwrite it.  Or
maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks,
Randy

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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Thanks for your help.
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
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   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
 
  But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can
do this.
 
  Some more information
 
  Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
  Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
  Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
  
  Looking for 

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Keating
Even if you did update the inventory, if the tape has not been expired
(images no longer valid) Netbackup will know about the data and not
overwrite the tape.

The only issue would be if you had a tape that had already expired,
which you put into the library to restore from.

You would have to do an import on the tape before you could restore from
it, so in the timeframe between injecting the tape in the library, and
doing the import, there is a small window during which Netbackup could
overwrite the tape, assuming you did not write protect or freeze the
cart.


Sounds like a TSM zealot spreading FUD about NBU.

Paul

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 Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was
 there so it shouldn't overwrite it.  If you are putting a 
 full tape in
 the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a 
 restore?  If so,
 write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution.  The only
 other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the 
 library is
 so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to 
 overwrite it.  Or
 maybe I'm missing something.
 
 Thanks,
 Randy
 
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 We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back 
 that NBU can
 accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
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  If that is true, how can we avoide ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Kristofer
In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do 
not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape 
that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that 
the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the 
library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it.  NetBackup does several 
checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired.

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We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
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   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
 
  But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this.
 
  Some more information
 
  Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
  Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
  Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
  
  Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 21, Issue 19

2008-01-15 Thread Joe Royer
If you put a TSM tape in a library that is now controlled by NBU, then 
yes, NBU will overwrite it because it has no knowledge of the TSM 
database.

Running an inventory isn't going to help in this situation, you will need 
to keep track of when TSM expires the tape so you can recycle it under 
NBU.

If NBU put the data on tape, then no, it won't be overwritten until the 
retention period has expired.


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 We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back
 that NBU can
 accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
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  If that is true, how can we avoide ?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Jon Bousselot
I can confirm this action, as I've experienced it first hand.  Where 
I've seen NBU find a difference between the inventory and the tape 
header is on a blind library (no barcode reader) or where a user has 
opened the door and physically manipulated tapes without updating the 
inventory. 

If you really want to eliminate the FUD overwrite problem, you need a 
tape library with a strain gauge on the picker arm, because we all know 
a full tape weighs more than an empty one.







In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do 
not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape 
that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that 
the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it thinks is in the 
library, so it will freeze that tape and not use it.  NetBackup does several 
checks to make sure it doesn't write over a tape that is not expired.

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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX



  
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on
there written by TSM?

Thanks,
Randy


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot
and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to
mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the
tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't
match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and
not use it.  NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write
over a tape that is not expired.

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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
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   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
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   Thanks for your help.
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
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 Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into 

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Geyer, Gregory
NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it:

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm

These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found
their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a
blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO,
ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a
safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following
procedure:

UNIX
To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to
/usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question:

ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR 
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1

Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect

 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on
there written by TSM?

Thanks,
Randy


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In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot
and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to
mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the
tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't
match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and
not use it.  NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write
over a tape that is not expired.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
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   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
   Gilles.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Curtis Preston
I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with
TSM tapes.  I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to
label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens.
I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify
the -o option).

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:41 PM
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Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it:

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm

These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found
their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a
blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO,
ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a
safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following
procedure:

UNIX
To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to
/usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question:

ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR 
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1

Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect

 

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Samora
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on
there written by TSM?

Thanks,
Randy


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot
and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to
mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the
tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't
match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and
not use it.  NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write
over a tape that is not expired.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
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   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
   Gilles.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Jon Bousselot
In 2007, I received about 500 tapes written by Commvault Galaxy 5.9.  I 
put new barcode stickers on the cartridge, loaded them in the tape 
library, inventoried them into the SCRTCH pool, and did not make any 
modifications to the media manager.  It used them all without any 
complaints.

Commvault writes their own tape format, which are not any of the known 
formats that netbackup will detect.

I did the same thing with old AIT-1 ArcServe tapes, but did not get new 
barcode labels.

-Jon


 I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with
 TSM tapes.  I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to
 label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens.
 I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify
 the -o option).

 ---
 W. Curtis Preston
 Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
 VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geyer,
 Gregory
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:41 PM
 To: Randy Samora; Kristofer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

 NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it:

 http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm

 These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found
 their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a
 blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO,
 ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a
 safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following
 procedure:

 UNIX
 To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question:

 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR 
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS
 ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1

 Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect

  

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 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

 Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on
 there written by TSM?

 Thanks,
 Randy


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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

 In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot
 and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to
 mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the
 tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't
 match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and
 not use it.  NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write
 over a tape that is not expired.

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 Hi
 We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
 accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
 after putting full tape in library.
  If that is true, how can we avoide ?
 Your help is very much appreciated.

 THX

   

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Peter Marelas
Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them.


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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which tape.
 
   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are located 
 with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
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 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Subject
   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
 
  But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can do this.
 
  Some more information
 
  Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
  Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
  Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Sesar, Steven L.
It won't happen. If you really want to be retentive about this, create
a volume pool called DONT_USE and move any media that you don't want
to use in there. This is overkill, though.

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Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them.


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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU
can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
tape.
 
   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
   Gilles.
 
 
 
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   01/11/2008 06:14
PM 
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   Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu   cc
 Subject
   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Curtis Preston
YEAH!  Go old school on that bad boy!

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Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them.


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Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
tape.
 
   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
   Gilles.
 
 
 
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   01/11/2008 06:14
PM 
 To
   Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu   cc
 Subject
   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
  Hi,
 
  I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
Netbackup
  master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
 
  Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
 
  But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can
do this.
 
  Some more information
 
  Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
  Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
  Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
  

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Back to one of my original questions; why are you putting the tapes in
the library to begin with?  I think we're providing the right solution
for the wrong issue.

Thanks,
Randy

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

YEAH!  Go old school on that bad boy!

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Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them.


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Subject:[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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   Hello,
 
   Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
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   For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
 
   Thanks for your help.
 
   Gilles.
 
 
 
 
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 All,

   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions


   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
   I have specified SBT_TAPE
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
 SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Ratheesh R Das
 M I N D S P E E D Technologies
 Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Murtuja Khokhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   01/11/2008 06:14
PM 
 To
   Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu   cc
 Subject
   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
   
 
 
 
 No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
 
 Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
 e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
 
 Regards
 Michael
 
 2008/1/11, 

[Veritas-bu] Recovery from hot catalog secondary copy

2008-01-15 Thread Martin Ruslan
Dear guys,

as subject, can Netbackup recover the entire catalog from the secondary copy
hot catalog backup?
I already tried, but always failed (partially success). If using the primary
copy, everything goes fine.
Also tried bpchangeprimary the secondary copy (importing the image first),
still partial success when I do recovery from the GUI, Recover the Catalog
menu.
Any suggestion will be helpfull...

Regards,
martin
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[Veritas-bu] About NetBackup 6.0 license

2008-01-15 Thread moehatdee
Hi All,

I have three Unix boxes running HP-UX 11.0, one library with 4 drives, all
are connected to SAN.

I'm using NetBackup software version 6.0.

I configured my backup system as the following:
1. Master  EMM Server
- HP-UX 11.0
- shared drive
- Oracle 9i

2. Media Server
- HP UX 11.0
- shared drive
- Oracle 8

3. Media Server
- HP UX 11.0
- shared drive
- Oracle 10g

My questions are:
- which licenses should I provide for this configuration.
- which licenses should be applied on each Master Server and Media Servers.


Thanks for your help.


Regards,

Moehatdee
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[Veritas-bu] database consistency and Compression

2008-01-15 Thread Abhishek Dhingra1
Hi Gurus,

  Need help in doing Catalog Compression and database consistency 
check, I am working in an environment where we are running our master 
server on AIX with netbackup 6.0 MP4 and we have around 20 Media 
Servers(including 10 SAN Media Server) and more then 500 client , The 
environment is newly setup, so we have no schedule backup till now, we 
have a seperate team to manually initiate all the Clients backup and the 
backups runs continously without a free time in between.

  In the process of streamlining the environment, we daily cancel lots 
of running backups, and we always take the HOT catalog backup,  there is 
also inconsistency in the database, because database clean up process 
doesnot run. So netbackup/db/images is increasing with a huge speed 
almost 5 Gb a day. We are  also not compressing the catalog images.

   Now i want to manually initiate the Database Consistency check and 
schedule the catalog compression( my thinking is above both task requires 
no backup should be running at that time).

Will Appreciate the help from all of you!! 
 

Abhishek Dhingra

IBM Global Services, Delhi,
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