Re: Subversion 1.6
On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: On 31 Mar, 00:03, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: (As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Subversion. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) Look for the heading Xcode and Subversion. The first sentence says, literally: Support for Subversion is built into Xcode (version 1.5 and later). Ganesh That was the sentence I was referring to. As I mentioned, it means version 1.5+ of Xcode, not of Subversion. If it were meant as you interpret it, the sentence would instead read: Support for Subversion (version 1.5 and later) is built into Xcode. Leopard currently ships with Subversion 1.4.4, and Xcode works with it happily — as this 2005 article demonstrates, it also worked fine with Subversion 1.2.x. - Quinn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Subversion 1.6
I think that reference is a bit obscure about the application it refers to, it could mean one of two things 1. that Xcode V1.5 plus has support for Subversion which it did i think 2. Xcode Supports Subversion 1.5+ which is correct but only after XCode 3.1.1 (if I remember correctly) as previous versions of xcode only supported subversion 1.4.4 This statement needs some clarification in my opinion but as its in the most recent documentation I suppose you could use the second argument that the Current version of xcode (V3.1.2) supports xcode 1.5+. This is not to say that installing later versions of subversion does not cause issues with xcode (If the libraries are not correctly linked or installed NONE of your subversion repositories will show up in xcode at all, causing much hair pulling and curses). No need to start a flame war ;) over a clarification issue. Just my 2 cents Kieren On 05/04/2009, at 10:17 PM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: On 31 Mar, 00:03, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: (As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) (Of course I meant nothing about which version of Subversion.) Look for the heading Xcode and Subversion. The first sentence says, literally: Support for Subversion is built into Xcode (version 1.5 and later). Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hi Alberto, just to remind you, I consider myself humbly very dumb when doing stuff like using svn. I am but a simple historian, writing his thesis in LaTeX and keeping stuff in svn for obvious reasons. Though I have been able to stumble around in Terminal occasionally with varying results I prefer to use a GUI-based solution with the difficult stuff done for me under the hood. I know that this might mean a certain time-lag between what is possible and what is implemented or – in this case maybe – might be put into Versions via special prefences for the experienced like yourself. Regards, Rolf 2009/3/30 Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com … I think that providing an hidden feature is kind of stupid. Versions already warns you about possible incompatibility between 1.4.6 and 1.5.4. Just add another warning. If the user wants to shoot himself on the foot, just let him. Just my opinion, Ganesh -- Rolf Schmolling Historiker rolf.schmoll...@gmail.com http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
(As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) (Of course I meant nothing about which version of Subversion.) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hey TheDO, Generally the best way to build apps around other apps is to include their functionality with programming libraries they provide. That way you can access all the functions right in the programming language which has the least overhead and is usually less error prone. Another way to build an app like Versions would be communicating with the command line program. That means that you have to manually send text commands to the app and parse it's output (this is called piping). This way it would be possible to replace the binary that Versions communicates with, but as we would really rely on the input and output it will break easily. Plus, we could never get the app as fast as it is now. Hope that explains it :-) Koen On Mar 28, 9:58 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: It's great to hear 1.6 support is coming. I want to put out my concern around the bundling of the subversion client into Versions.app, and not supporting external subversion clients. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone in the know remind me (and possibly others) why Versions is built this way? Is there something special about the built-in subversion client? Can't wait to see the next release of Versions. I'd be happy to join a beta-testing group, if you need some more help in that respect. On Mar 23, 4:50 am, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
On 29 Mar, 13:18, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey TheDO, Generally the best way to build apps around other apps is to include their functionality with programming libraries they provide. That way you can access all the functions right in the programming language which has the least overhead and is usually less error prone. Another way to build an app like Versions would be communicating with the command line program. That means that you have to manually send text commands to the app and parse it's output (this is called piping). This way it would be possible to replace the binary that Versions communicates with, but as we would really rely on the input and output it will break easily. Plus, we could never get the app as fast as it is now. Hope that explains it :-) You are missing the point. No-one has ever thought of using the command line, given that Subversions ships with a very nice set of dynamic libraries. The point of TheDO was that Version is currently shipped with two sets of such dynamic libraries, one for v1.4.6 and one for v1.5.4. You can select the set you prefer and Versions will use that one. That's nice. However, on my machine I have installed in / usr/lib Subversion v1.5.6 so that I can happily use it in XCode. But Version is stuck with v1.5.4. I believe it is perfectly feasible to have a preference in Version to make it use the libraries in /usr/lib instead of the one shipped with Versions. If we had that, I could just install the v1.6 libraries in / usr/lib and we wouldn't need to wait for the next update of Versions to use them. Just my opinion, Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
It's great to hear 1.6 support is coming. I want to put out my concern around the bundling of the subversion client into Versions.app, and not supporting external subversion clients. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone in the know remind me (and possibly others) why Versions is built this way? Is there something special about the built-in subversion client? Can't wait to see the next release of Versions. I'd be happy to join a beta-testing group, if you need some more help in that respect. On Mar 23, 4:50 am, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
ok I make no claims that this wont break your installation. Make sure you have installed Subversion 1.6 first, weird side effects are not my fault. I have browsed, imported and checked out so far but YMMV here is the link to my blog post http://blindgenius.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/subversion-16-xcode-312-versions/ HTH Kez On 23/03/2009, at 2:03 PM, Adam wrote: That would be great, Kez. Running into issues with 1.6 compatibility, too. — @dam -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Adam Balasis | adam.bala...@gmail.com -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Sergeant Comely was working on the general assumption that where you got lots of people gathered together, something illegal was bound to happen sooner or later. — (Terry Pratchett, Johnny and the Dead) On Mar 21, 10:25 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: I have just upgraded subversion to 1.6 and Versions and xcode works fine (after some minor tweaks). I can post the fixes if you like? Regards Kez On 22/03/2009, at 10:07 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: Are there plans about supporting Subversion 1.6? Please notice that I am not requesting support of the 1.6 specific features (although that would be welcome, of course). I would be happy to just have the same set of features Versions has, but use a 1.6 client. That's because the format of the working copies has changed once again from 1.5.x to 1.6 and I would like to remain interoperable with other tools that might use 1.6. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: ok I make no claims that this wont break your installation. Make sure you have installed Subversion 1.6 first, weird side effects are not my fault. I have browsed, imported and checked out so far but YMMV here is the link to my blog posthttp://blindgenius.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/subversion-16-xcode-312-v... HTH Kez On 23/03/2009, at 2:03 PM, Adam wrote: That would be great, Kez. Running into issues with 1.6 compatibility, too. — @dam -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Adam Balasis | adam.bala...@gmail.com -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Sergeant Comely was working on the general assumption that where you got lots of people gathered together, something illegal was bound to happen sooner or later. — (Terry Pratchett, Johnny and the Dead) On Mar 21, 10:25 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: I have just upgraded subversion to 1.6 and Versions and xcode works fine (after some minor tweaks). I can post the fixes if you like? Regards Kez On 22/03/2009, at 10:07 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: Are there plans about supporting Subversion 1.6? Please notice that I am not requesting support of the 1.6 specific features (although that would be welcome, of course). I would be happy to just have the same set of features Versions has, but use a 1.6 client. That's because the format of the working copies has changed once again from 1.5.x to 1.6 and I would like to remain interoperable with other tools that might use 1.6. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
