AW: Re: [VFB] RE: fly pattern database/scrap book
there is a program FlySource (free of charge) available too.: http://www.flysource.net/ Thomas Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: rene.zillm...@t-online.de Datum: 10.11.2010 20:50 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: Re: [VFB] RE: fly pattern database/scrap book I have written a program using Grails and mysql. Stores swaps,pattern and images. Rene On 11/10/2010 02:27 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; I recently acquired a Pansonic toughbook CF-18 computer and plan on using it for hobby stuff, primarily fly tying/fishing. Anyone store patterns on their computer? If so, how do you do it and what software do you use? One idea I have is creating a pattern book for events I visit, such as Sow Bug. My wife recently made a cookbook of my daughter's college soccer team tailgate recipies and had it published as a spiral cook book. It worked really well and was well recieved by others. Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail- unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: fly pattern database/scrap book
Basically yes, but this is something that is tweaked to my needs: undocumented even if mysql, not really multi user safe sometimes poor error handling, what the heck, I'm checking with the log files, but nothing for the average user etc. And I have not really time for support... I run it on linux, it needs a glassfish or tomcat server. I would suggest to use flysource. It has even more options than my program. But runs only on windows, and that;s the reason why I started my program. If someone is willing to go a hard road, I'm willing to share. One modification of the sw is needed though, my database credentials hare hard coded Rene On 11/10/2010 11:35 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote: Rene: is this something you are willing to share with us? Thank you, Alan Di Somma You know your a redneck when: You have the local taxidermist on speed dial... http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - *From:* Rene Zillmann mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] RE: fly pattern database/scrap book I have written a program using Grails and mysql. Stores swaps,pattern and images. Rene On 11/10/2010 02:27 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; I recently acquired a Pansonic toughbook CF-18 computer and plan on using it for hobby stuff, primarily fly tying/fishing. Anyone store patterns on their computer? If so, how do you do it and what software do you use? One idea I have is creating a pattern book for events I visit, such as Sow Bug. My wife recently made a cookbook of my daughter's college soccer team tailgate recipies and had it published as a spiral cook book. It worked really well and was well recieved by others. Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] emerger
I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
What were they blowing dry? The head cement? Problem with that is that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer layer on it. I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not actually blow on the flies. Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in the sun or UV light. Was there another reason they were applying a blower? DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
drying after use. Some ppl fish the fies we used to ty. G Rene On 11/11/2010 08:06 PM, Don Ordes wrote: What were they blowing dry? The head cement? Problem with that is that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer layer on it. I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not actually blow on the flies. Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in the sun or UV light. Was there another reason they were applying a blower? DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Fishing Jacket Selection
Hi Gang, I'm in the market to buy an additional jacket for winter fishing. I have already a Wading Jacket from Orvis which I like most, now I'm looking for something which keeps me dry and warm even in Winter, and not only for fishing. When I browse through the shops, I see that outdoor jackets like from Jacke Wolfskin or Patagonia go with 150 to 250 EUR, even ones which look 'top end'. (Lined, flexible, etc.), When I look for jackets which are marked as fly fishing jackets, they go from 300 to 500 EUR. That;s valid also for companies which sell 'regular' and 'ff-jackets'.My question is now: Why are these ff jackets so much expensive? Is it possible to cast a line while wearing a 'regular' shell? Any experience and thoughts? Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
He was using it for the heat to soften the plastic (polymer) tinsel he had mixed with peacock. He used the same combination for the tail, body, and head. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 12:06 PM What were they blowing dry? The head cement? Problem with that is that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer layer on it. I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not actually blow on the flies. Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in the sun or UV light. Was there another reason they were applying a blower? DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
He was using a home-made cement liberally throughout the tying process. LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 12:06 PM What were they blowing dry? The head cement? Problem with that is that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer layer on it. I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not actually blow on the flies. Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in the sun or UV light. Was there another reason they were applying a blower? DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
Hi Guys; That guy blow dries the material to get it to shrink and I think it causes some type of color change. Wayne --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] emerger To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 2:06 PM What were they blowing dry? The head cement? Problem with that is that wind, especially with humid air, will cloud up head cement or put a frosty outer layer on it. I know tiers that have tried to hook up blowers to their drying wheels, and after just opted for small fans at low speeds- just enough to move the air, not actually blow on the flies. Vinyl cement fries pretty fast, but clouds up if you try to speed it up. The 'new' UV cure coatings are susceptible to clouding but cure rather quickly in the sun or UV light. Was there another reason they were applying a blower? DonO - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
Got a url for that video? - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Fishing Jacket Selection
Rene, I really like Simms stuff but it is pricey. I bought a Hodgman wading jacket at Sportsmans Warehouse a few years back and I love it. It has big pockets so I can put in a few fly boxes. It is short so it stays out of the water. And I think it is good looking so I wear it a lot around town (when I am in Utah. Don't need one here in Hawaii). It was very reasonably priced and it has worn very well. I did recoat it with a water repellant last year after about 5 years. I would recommend at least a look. (I looked and they are about $80 US now which is about what the sticker was then but I got it on sale for about $50 if I remember right) Mike On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.dewrote: Hi Gang, I'm in the market to buy an additional jacket for winter fishing. I have already a Wading Jacket from Orvis which I like most, now I'm looking for something which keeps me dry and warm even in Winter, and not only for fishing. When I browse through the shops, I see that outdoor jackets like from Jacke Wolfskin or Patagonia go with 150 to 250 EUR, even ones which look 'top end'. (Lined, flexible, etc.), When I look for jackets which are marked as fly fishing jackets, they go from 300 to 500 EUR. That;s valid also for companies which sell 'regular' and 'ff-jackets'.My question is now: Why are these ff jackets so much expensive? Is it possible to cast a line while wearing a 'regular' shell? Any experience and thoughts? Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
I didn't get the url for the video, but I found it quickly again by googling NUCLEE-R flies, peacock emerger LJ Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 11/11/2010 2:12 PM Got a url for that video? - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] emerger I never saw a blow dryer used on a fly before. I saw this on a YouTube video from Nuclee-r Flies, blow drying a peacock emerger. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] emerger
Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that! Nev Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:19 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] emerger I didn't get the url for the video, but I found it quickly again by googling NUCLEE-R flies, peacock emerger LJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] emerger
Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that! Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it. I may have to try one of those out. Who knows? Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for true rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary function. The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at the far side AFTER they've finished the fly. a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Superfly
Is anyone using this program? I started years ago to use it. I thought I might try again but I need it updated to the current Access database and I know enough to get me in trouble but not fix this. Anyone updated the program? Mike -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
Okay Fish - that's getting kinda personal! On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that! Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it. I may have to try one of those out. Who knows? Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for true rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary function. The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at the far side AFTER they've finished the fly. a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
Okay Fish - that's getting kinda personal! What? That I find it interesting? I'm interested in a lot of things. G a -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] emerger
You might as well use a flatfish! Re: NorVise I have one. I bought it secondhand and I like it for certain types of flies. You can sure apply dubbing very quickly and effectively with it using the full rotary function. I use different vises for different purposes. I use a 1984 Regal Inex for tying tubes and larger steelhead flies. Each vise has its own advantages and disadvantages. Neville Gosling -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allan Fish Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:51 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [VFB] emerger Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that! Agreed - but Neville, he says the fish love it. I may have to try one of those out. Who knows? Maybe I'll become a lure fisherman. :-P I still find it interesting that people pay all those big bucks for true rotary vises (Nor-vise in this case) and barely use the rotary function. The majority use it just to turn the fly over to look at the far side AFTER they've finished the fly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] emerger
You might as well use a flatfish! Do you have a good pattern for me? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
Neville, I agree. I watched the YT- all 4min21sec. of it, and he already had the anchor and foam down. Now I see what he's using the blow-drier for- to melt the fly-away junk. This fly, startting where he did, would take 45 seconds to tie (at most) using the rope-dub, and give a perfect shape not needing melting. Kinda' like the one material swap. Tail, segmented abdomen, wing- all in one pass. Sometimes I think about posting a reply, but then again...naah. Not bragging, just comparing. (Yes you are! Buggs) Yeah...Why DIDN'T he use the rotation ability of his vise? DonO - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] emerger Emerger? It's nothing more than a lure and an ugly one at that! Nev Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:19 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] emerger I didn't get the url for the video, but I found it quickly again by googling NUCLEE-R flies, peacock emerger LJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emerger
You mean like a Wiggle Bug? http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php At times a very effective panfish fly for me. Jack Austin On 11/11/2010 5:21 PM, Allan Fish wrote: You might as well use a flatfish! Do you have a good pattern for me? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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I got one of those from Tom Tullis at a Denver show. Still have it in my collector's flies box. He had a tank with a pump in it pushing water over the fly, making it wiggle. That's probably why it's called a Wiggle-bug, huh. DonO - Original Message - From: Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] emerger You mean like a Wiggle Bug? http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php At times a very effective panfish fly for me. Jack Austin On 11/11/2010 5:21 PM, Allan Fish wrote: You might as well use a flatfish! Do you have a good pattern for me? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Re: now tube flies- reply
Hey, Ashley! Forgive me I don't know how to use this list very well. I do like to use tube flies on the Blues. They do have a junction tube connecting the hook to the tube with the crease fly pattern I tie but the Blue fish didn't seem to have any problems dislodging the fly if you get my meaning. LOL I have used them for bass and pan fish also. The junction tubing isn't always necessary (dependent on the pattern) but I liked Don O's idea of putting a bit of foam into the end of the tube to replace the bobber stopper idea they used to use. I may have to test that one out. I tie a lot on Yuri's tubes and on plastic tubes systems (Yuri also marketed these shortly before his death) there are a lot of companies out there that sell very cheap tubing to use for this purpose. There was also another company marketing a tube system that was somewhat interchangeable call Eumer tubes but they were ridiculously expensive. I have a few of them to show when I demo tube flies but I don't use them. The paint chips off way too easily and they weren't really good quality like Juri's. There is a Japanese book out on tube flies by Ken Sawada along with the two books I'm sure have already been mentioned by Mark Mandell and Les Johnson and I might mention that Paul Marriner has some nice examples of both tube flies and waddington shanks in his book. I could go on listing sources but those are my favorites along with the websites that have already been mentioned. I've been so tied up with school and I don't have a lot of time to even keep up with facebook but you can always tease me out from under my rock with tube flies. Miss you guys, Deb On Nov 9, 9:49 pm, Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Tube fly boxes are expensive, so I've found a cheaper alternative. I use plastic boxes I found in the rifle cartridge section in gun shops. They are boxes with 20 openings for holding large caliber shells, with a lid that slides over the whole thing. Works well for those few tube flies I've tied. jack Austin On 11/9/2010 6:46 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: Great article. I've never tied a tube fly, but shall make some once the Christmas rush is over. How do you keep these in your fly box once you've tied them? Do you attach line with a loop, then run it through the tube and thus have it ready when you need it on the stream? Inquiring minds want to know. I can speak to the crow bar effect..lost several great kings in AK with just that happening. They'd jump, swing their heads and then the hook would come flying out of their mouths. Got smart and used some rather shorter shanked Fat Alberts and egg sucking leeches to overcome the effect. Wish I lived close enough for a seminar on this aspect of tying. Joyce On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com mailto:f...@tribcsp.com wrote: For any type of fishing, a drawback of long-shanked hooks is the 'crow-bar' effect. The pull against the eye of the hook is transferred to the bend with the shank acting as a lever against the fish's jaw. This can do a lot of damage to the fish if hooked solidly (wallow out a hole), or bend the shank, or leverage the bend and barb right out of the hook-set hole- again damaging the fish in the process. The bigger and stronger the fish is, the worse the problem is. A short shank hook keeps a hook-set better, especially with fish that roll. I've never witnessed a tuna rolling, though, LOL. (Shhh I have a new shrimp pattern in a tube design because I wanted to get away from long-shanked hooks just to get a tying platform.) Hooks can be selected for the quarry and fishing circumstance rather than pre-tied into the fly. You can change during fishing as you see the need. You may want to try a double hook, or a circle hook, or a smaller hook, etc., or change from freshwater bronze to saltwater alloy. Or, you can fish bronze hooks in saltwater, which would allow the hook to dissolve quickly if a fish breaks off, and you don't have to worry about a bronze hook corroding underneath the materials in a saltwater-fished fly. The tube-fly can also side up the tippet to get it away from the teeth once the hook-set is made. If the fly is tied on the +-side of neutral bouyancy, a broken off fly will float to the surface. But if you want this fly to sink while fishing, a heavy hook and some brass beads between the hook and tube will get it down to the fish, as in fising for Spanish Mackeral running 15' down. A tiny bit of foam glued into the end of the tube will keep a big hook from prematurely backing away from the tube during a strip-stop retreive or a long sink to the zone. Tube flies can also be tied articulated, actually stacked. For example, you could have a 2-part squid (tentacles
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Larry Tullis I think Don. He is the one I think originated that wiggle bug. Mike On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: I got one of those from Tom Tullis at a Denver show. Still have it in my collector's flies box. He had a tank with a pump in it pushing water over the fly, making it wiggle. That's probably why it's called a Wiggle-bug, huh. DonO - Original Message - From: Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] emerger You mean like a Wiggle Bug? http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/113098fotw.php At times a very effective panfish fly for me. Jack Austin On 11/11/2010 5:21 PM, Allan Fish wrote: You might as well use a flatfish! Do you have a good pattern for me? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
