Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

[DonO]

To all pink squirrel swappers. So sorry to make you wait so long. 
My hand is finally coming around to where I can tie once more. Tried a few 
times – awful and slow results. 2 min fly takes an hour plus.
Very slow recovery from a couple of nightmare nerve pain medications – side 
effect almost killed me.
But I Can finally hold the bobbin again, with the sleeves.

The long-term is still questionable except for pain. But I am still trying. 
Trying a new therapy- promising results.

Alan has offered to finish the swap for me, but I’d like to finish it, as it 
will probably be my last swap.

Pl ease let me know what you want me to do.
Regards,
DonO
From: Tony 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:06 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

Thanks you all, I feel humble.
Tony


On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 3:51:34 PM CST, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote: 


Sounds good to me, Chuck



From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  
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Or just not get one of our own back.

Rick




From: DonO 
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?



Hi Tony, nice to hear from you.  I figured you were busy with health issues and 
silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out.  So sorry about 
that.  Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure hope you’ve gotten 
ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my prayers.



I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for you.  
I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you.



Eh Guys, 19 instead of 18?  One for the Tiger?



DonO





From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info



Been following this. Wish I was able to  do it. Right now I am too tied up with 
doctors.

Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy and 
to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the same as 
started on my left foot that lead to amputation. 

Arkansas Tony



On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote: 





Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could do is 
second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck



From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DonO
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info



Welcome all to the fly swap and thank you.  

I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to toss 
at fish.



Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.



Cheers,

Don



From: DonO 

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info



Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651

SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. 

Don



From: DonO 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.



Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)

See list below.



Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.



So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.



Rest of details to follow shortly.



Don





From: Donna Crowell 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph



Is it to late to sigh up ? 



 Donna…...



On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:

  Oh good I made the swap.



  Peggy







  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S



   Original message 
  From: DonO  
  Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph 

  Thanks Jack. 



  From: DonO 

  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph





  Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  

  Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.



  Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)

1.  Rick Zieger

2.  Allan Fish

3.  Neville Gosling

4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)

5.  Don Ordes

6.  Renr Zillman

7.  Gary Webb  

8.  J Balmer

9.  Ron Boutin

10.  

Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- 2 tiers needed

[DonO]

Just 2 sets I haven’t received yet below:

Fly tiers list- two still needed.

I’m getting very close again to being able to tie (after many tries). Can be 
frustrating to find one’s abilities at so low a level.
The pain medications are much worse in side effects than the stroke was. The 
real challenge is the side-effects (along with additional side effects if just 
quitting them) and the lack of honesty about them.  Central post stroke pain 
syndrome is a monster.  I tied Percy before the pain set in, which ended all 
therapies until we got the pain under control. Which is in uncertain partial 
progress. Those familiar with post stroke central pain will understand.  

  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.  Mike Bliss
  14.  Joyce Westphal 
  15.  Keith Passant
  16.  Darren MacEachern
  17.  Peggy Brenner
  18.  Donna Crowell



  DonO 

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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

[DonO]

Hi Gary and all swappers,

I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my 
debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or “post-stroke central 
pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome.

Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain 
plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible.

So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my 
life.

I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m 
doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The 
pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. 
It also effects my right leg that way.

So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, 
plus tie my set.  

I’ll give an update after my first flies. 

I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive.

If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, 
I have a fall-back plan or two.

Cheers, DonO


Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?

Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.   

Gary
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[VFB] Re: PSQN FLIES RECEIVED SO FAR 2/12

[DonO]

SWAPPERS:
I haven’t opened the packages I have so far. Waiting to get a few more to do 
bigger groups. Can’t wait.
Big swap- 360 flies- got to keep it stream-lined and organized.

FLIES RECEIVED AS OF 2/12/2019
  DATE RECEIVED 
SASE / POSTAGE COMMENTS:


  Tiers:   

1.  Rick Zieger  2/12/2019

 

2.  Allan Fish

 

3.  Neville Gosling

 

4.  Chuck Alexander 



5.  Don Ordes  IN PROGRESS

 

6.  Renr Zillman

 

7.  Gary Webb 

 

8.  J Balmer

 

9.  Ron Boutin   2/12/2019

 

10.  Alan Di Somma

 

11.  Mel Hocken

 

12.  Jack Harford

 

13.  Mike Bliss   2/12/2019

 

14.  Joyce Westphal 2/12/2019

 

15.  Keith Passant

 

16.  Darren MacEachern  2/12/2019

 

17.  Peggy Brenner

 

18.  Donna Crowell

 

 

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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

[DonO]

Mike Bliss, please contact me off list. Thanks. Don

From: Michael Bliss 
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:19 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

I got it and waiting for some additional instructions.  I found one I want to 
try.   
Mike


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:46 AM, DonO  wrote:


  Rope-buggers,

  Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to everyone?

  DonO

  From: DonO 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

  Wooly-bugger swappers:
  As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry for 
the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.
  These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different kinds 
of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve different looks 
for different fishing.
  Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub 
method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something new 
for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.
  
  
  Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer on 
the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually move, 
so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing date will 
be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.
<-164674920514A3DCE2.png>  Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
  VIEW SLIDE SHOW DOWNLOAD ALL 

This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 
1/12/2018. 
<9611746251BC3195A.png>     


  DonO

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Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing advantage-Chuck

[DonO]

Rope dubbing advantageChuck, Thanks for the review.  Great of you.  It’ll get 
even better with practice on different dubbings. Did your DVD have samples?

Don’t forget that you can rope-dub with any thread, but the mono is easiest to 
learn on. Just make sure you anchor it well before and after you dub. And don’t 
overwrap the dubbing with thread.

The one big sales difference now is I’m using a downloadable version video, not 
a hard DVD. It’s $30 with no shipping cost or wait time.  I used to put a bunch 
of sample flies inside the DVD case, but now I mail the samples to the buyer if 
they request it, which they normally do.  So overall it’s cheaper and faster.

I’m hoping to recover enough use of my right hand that I can follow up with 
more downloadable DVDs.
I’ve been re-doing my fly room for months, so now I get to focus on output.

Anyone up for a mouse and deer-hair fly DVD?

Cheers,
Don



From: Chuck Alexander 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:56 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Rope dubbing advantage

Don: And everybody. I have re-watched my rope dub videos lately by Don O and 
have been practicing the technique for this swap and noticed at least one 
advantage to rope dubbing. The trick is to use mono as the thread/rope core. 

Number one reason is that you never have to swap thread colors as clear mono 
blend into any color material. Number two at least for me is that the 2 pound 
mono I use seems to be stronger than 6/0 thread. And mono being more slippery 
that most any thread it seems to get the dubbing material to spin around the 
“thread” to make the dubbing “rope”  a little easier, overall.

Lastly, If you don’t have a copy of Don’s rope dub videos It should b in your 
DVD collection IMHO. He makes it so easy to follow along that even I learned it 
LOL. And NO, he didn’t ask me to post this or anything like that. In fact, 
you’d have to ask him if he even has any more available   I just think that any 
“tool” in your tying arsenal would help you tie better, quicker, and stronger, 
not to mention stronger as many, many insects in the world have naturally 
segmented bodies and the rope dub method makes that look more easily obtainable.

Tr him here to see if he has more and to order your copy if possible.  
https://fantasyfliesblog.wordpress.com/rope-dubbing-dvd-1/  

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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

[DonO]

Hi Tony, nice to hear from you.  I figured you were busy with health issues and 
silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out.  So sorry about 
that.  Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure hope you’ve gotten 
ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my prayers.

I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for you.  
I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you.

Eh Guys, 19 instead of 18?  One for the Tiger?

DonO


From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

Been following this. Wish I was able to  do it. Right now I am too tied up with 
doctors.
Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy and 
to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the same as 
started on my left foot that lead to amputation. 

Arkansas Tony


On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote: 


Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could do is 
second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck



From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DonO
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info



Welcome all to the fly swap and thank you.  

I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to toss 
at fish.



Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.



Cheers,

Don



From: DonO 

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info



Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651

SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. 

Don



From: DonO 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.



Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)

See list below.



Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.



So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.



Rest of details to follow shortly.



Don





From: Donna Crowell 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph



Is it to late to sigh up ? 



 Donna…...



On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:

  Oh good I made the swap.



  Peggy







  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S



   Original message 
  From: DonO  
  Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph 

  Thanks Jack. 



  From: DonO 

  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph





  Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  

  Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.



  Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)

1.  Rick Zieger

2.  Allan Fish

3.  Neville Gosling

4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)

5.  Don Ordes

6.  Renr Zillman

7.  Gary Webb  

8.  J Balmer

9.  Ron Boutin

10.  Alan Di Somma

11.  Mel Hocken

12.  Jack Harford

13.  Mike Bliss

14.  Joyce Westphal 

15.  Keith Passant

16.  Darren MacEachern

17.  Peggy Brenner

18.  Donna Crowell





I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.



If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
pattern!





Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)



1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.

2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.

3.  Lots of photos on a search of images

4.  Broad range of quarry fish

5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose



6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- wet, nymph, or 
scud hooks

7.  Gray or mottled brown body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any 
material suited for a collar per the photo archives)

8.  Gold or silver bead, your choice of ribbing wire or roped segments

9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern (dubbing blends)



10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap- SHOOTING FOR 18.

11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) 
or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did somet

Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

[DonO]

Welcome all to the fly swap and thank you.  
I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to toss 
at fish.

Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.

Cheers,
Don

From: DonO 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651
SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. 
Don

From: DonO 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.

Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)
See list below.

Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.

So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.

Rest of details to follow shortly.

Don


From: Donna Crowell 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

Is it to late to sigh up ? 

 Donna…...

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:

  Oh good I made the swap.

  Peggy



  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S


   Original message 
  From: DonO  
  Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph 


  Thanks Jack. 

  From: DonO 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph


  Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  
  Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.
  Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)
1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
5.  Don Ordes
6.  Renr Zillman
7.  Gary Webb  
8.  J Balmer
9.  Ron Boutin
10.  Alan Di Somma
11.  Mel Hocken
12.  Jack Harford
13.  Mike Bliss
14.  Joyce Westphal 
15.  Keith Passant
16.  Darren MacEachern
17.  Peggy Brenner
18.  Donna Crowell


I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- wet, nymph, or 
scud hooks
7.  Gray or mottled brown body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any 
material suited for a collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead, your choice of ribbing wire or roped segments
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern (dubbing blends)

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap- SHOOTING FOR 18.
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) 
or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
special. (Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need 
to keep my energy up.

Any VFB swappers left (2)?  Looking like we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB 
Swap.

Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.

Cheers,
DonO






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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

[DonO]

Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651
SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. 
Don

From: DonO 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.

Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)
See list below.

Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.

So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.

Rest of details to follow shortly.

Don


From: Donna Crowell 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

Is it to late to sigh up ? 

 Donna…...

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:

  Oh good I made the swap.

  Peggy



  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S


   Original message 
  From: DonO  
  Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph 


  Thanks Jack. 

  From: DonO 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph


  Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  
  Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.
  Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)
1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
5.  Don Ordes
6.  Renr Zillman
7.  Gary Webb  
8.  J Balmer
9.  Ron Boutin
10.  Alan Di Somma
11.  Mel Hocken
12.  Jack Harford
13.  Mike Bliss
14.  Joyce Westphal 
15.  Keith Passant
16.  Darren MacEachern
17.  Peggy Brenner
18.  Donna Crowell


I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- wet, nymph, or 
scud hooks
7.  Gray or mottled brown body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any 
material suited for a collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead, your choice of ribbing wire or roped segments
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern (dubbing blends)

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap- SHOOTING FOR 18.
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) 
or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
special. (Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need 
to keep my energy up.

Any VFB swappers left (2)?  Looking like we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB 
Swap.

Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.

Cheers,
DonO






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[VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.

[DonO]

Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)
See list below.

Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.

So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.

Rest of details to follow shortly.

Don


From: Donna Crowell 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

Is it to late to sigh up ? 

 Donna…...

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:

  Oh good I made the swap.

  Peggy



  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S


   Original message 
  From: DonO  
  Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph 


  Thanks Jack. 

  From: DonO 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph


  Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  
  Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.
  Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)
1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
5.  Don Ordes
6.  Renr Zillman
7.  Gary Webb  
8.  J Balmer
9.  Ron Boutin
10.  Alan Di Somma
11.  Mel Hocken
12.  Jack Harford
13.  Mike Bliss
14.  Joyce Westphal 
15.  Keith Passant
16.  Darren MacEachern
17.  Peggy Brenner
18.  Donna Crowell


I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- wet, nymph, or 
scud hooks
7.  Gray or mottled brown body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any 
material suited for a collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead, your choice of ribbing wire or roped segments
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern (dubbing blends)

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap- SHOOTING FOR 18.
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) 
or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
special. (Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need 
to keep my energy up.

Any VFB swappers left (2)?  Looking like we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB 
Swap.

Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.

Cheers,
DonO






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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  
Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me know.
Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.  Mike Bliss
  14.  Joyce Westphal 
  15.  Keith Passant
  16.  Darren MacEachern

  17.  ?Bob Haering??
  18.  ?Nick Runarsson??


  I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

  If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


  Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

  1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
  2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
  3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
  4.  Broad range of quarry fish
  5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

  6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary- wet, nymph, or 
scud hooks
  7.  Gray or mottled brown body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any 
material suited for a collar per the photo archives)
  8.  Gold or silver bead, your choice of ribbing wire or roped segments
  9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern (dubbing blends)

  10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap- SHOOTING FOR 18.
  11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

  Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

  Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

  All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

  Any VFB swappers left (2)?  Looking like we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

  Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.

  Cheers,
  DonO






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[VFB] Sign-up list update #5- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Just a few more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me 
know.
Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.  Mike Bliss
  14.  Joyce Westphal 
  15.  Keith Passant
  16.
  17.
  18.


  I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

  If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


  Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

  1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
  2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
  3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
  4.  Broad range of quarry fish
  5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

  6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
  7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
a collar per the photo archives)
  8.  Gold or silver bead
  9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

  10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
  11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

  Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

  Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

  All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

  Any VFB swappers left? Maybe we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

  Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.

  Cheers,
  DonO




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[VFB] pink squirrel nymph

[DonO]

Peggy,
Easy fly swap. You want in?
Don

From: ladyflytyer 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 4:58 PM
To: 'KP' via VFB Mail 
Subject: [VFB] Mike Martinek

For those who knew him from the shows he passed a week or so ago at 72. He had 
lived in assisted living for the past 5 years unable to get around, life in the 
e fast lane caught up.

Peggy B



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[VFB] Bob H - PSN

[DonO]

Bob,
So are you in? 
DonO



From: haerb...@comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:19 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph

What is this swap about?  Who is hosting?  What are we tying?

BobH

  On January 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM rene.zillm...@t-onlne.de wrote: 


  Hi Don, 
  Sure, 100 tiers.
  R
  Rene

  Gesendet mit meinem HTC

  - Nachricht beantworten - 
  Von: "DonO"  
  An:  
  Betreff: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph 
  Datum: Sa., Jan. 19, 2019 20:12

  This is filling pretty quick.
  Does anyone have a cut-off point, how many tiers max?
  (The PSQN is a simple pattern, so tying a few extra should do your arsenal 
well.)
  I’m still working on holding on to a fly rod without being able to feel it in 
my hand.  Good side of that- cheap fly rods ‘feel’ just like high dollar ones.  
I’m going to make a lanyard to attach the rod handle butt end to my wrist.


  Tiers:   (as of 1/19 am)

  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.
  10.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar. 

  DonO




  From: DonO
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph


  Howdy All,

  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

  I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

  If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


  Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

  1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
  2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
  3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
  4.  Broad range of quarry fish
  5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

  6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
  7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
a collar per the photo archives)
  8.  Gold or silver bead
  9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

  10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
  11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

  Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

  Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

  All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

  Any VFB swappers left? 
  Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

  Cheers,
  DonO




   
   
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[VFB] Mike Bliss

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Hi Mike, 
got 5 spots in my swap left. You interested? May be my last swap- have to see 
how I do.
Pink Squirrel Nymph
Don

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Re: [VFB] Contacts to fill the swap...

[DonO]

He must be worse off than me. 
I really miss his banter on the VFB.
DonO

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Don’t think Jimmy D will be up for the challenge?



Sent from my iPad 

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



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  If anyone is in touch with any of the VFB swappers of old, maybe give them a 
head’s up of this swap.
  Have 5 spots left.

  Jimmy Moore?
  Nick
  Deb
  Jimmy Desert Eagle
  Hans
  etc.

  Thanks,
  DonO

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[VFB] Contacts to fill the swap...

[DonO]

If anyone is in touch with any of the VFB swappers of old, maybe give them a 
head’s up of this swap.
Have 5 spots left.

Jimmy Moore?
Nick
Deb
Jimmy Desert Eagle
Hans
etc.

Thanks,
DonO

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[VFB] Spikey dubbing samples for PSQN- Jack

[DonO]

Jack,
These samples of rope-dubbed fly bodies are tied with a mixture of squirrel and 
spikey hare’s mask (ears) dubbing.  
On the real samples, the segmentation stands out a lot more because of lighting.

Does the pattern call for dubbing this spikey?



It also looks like the tail fibers of twisted pearl mylar flash are basic to 
the pattern. (not shown)
Do you have an official pattern recipe to include with the swap info?

Also, do you have the official background story of the crawfish caught on one? 
(my intro post)

THANKS!

DonO

From: Jack Harford 
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

Don 

I think the spikey squirrel is just the ticket for the pink squirrel . . . . 

Tight lines,
Jack

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:53 PM DonO  wrote:

  Jack,
  Would the proper recipe dubbing be a spikey squirrel?
  So where’s Nick R. these days?
  Talking about the squirrel reminds me of him.

  Hoping to hear from Deb also.

  DonO

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  Yep Pink Squirrel is a WI pattern. I think it came out of the Driftless 
Angler Fly Shop in Viroqua WI.

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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Keith, If you’re an IOFFer (and you are a bored member), then you’ve been 
around a while.



DonO

From: 'KP' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

Don, 
Foster is doing real good. Thanks for the sign up sire. Yupp they were VERY 
GOOD old days I think. I reckon its got to have been close on20 years since I 
joined my first swap.
Does that mean we are old? Or Olde?? :-) 


On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 8:42:38 PM UTC, DonO wrote: 
  Mr. Keith, How’s Foster?  
  I have you signed up. Like the good ol’ days. 
  We still have a few spots open.
  DonO

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  Hi Don and co,
  I have replied on two different threads but dont see the replies. Hey ho. If 
there is still room on the swap Im in but dont sweat it if theres not.
  Glad to see you are well down the road to recovery Don and long may it 
continue to improve. 
  Take care guys
  Keith P 
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Jack,
Would the proper recipe dubbing be a spikey squirrel?
So where’s Nick R. these days?
Talking about the squirrel reminds me of him.

Hoping to hear from Deb also.

DonO

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Yep Pink Squirrel is a WI pattern. I think it came out of the Driftless Angler 
Fly Shop in Viroqua WI.

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[VFB] BobH: Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Hi Bob, zbinawhile, great to hear from you. 

Below is what I’ve posted so far with a list of who’s signed up. 

As I’ve done in the past, I intend to ‘judge’ them and reward a Fantasy Fly to 
the best of swap tier. (new news) 

Room for 6 more swappers. Will finalize the details (pretty standard) when the 
swap is full.


Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/19 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.
  14.
  15.
  16.
  17.
  18.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper (yes)- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

  Swap details:

  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

  I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

  If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


  Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

  1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
  2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
  3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
  4.  Broad range of quarry fish
  5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

  6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
  7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
a collar per the photo archives)
  8.  Gold or silver bead
  9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

  10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
  11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

  Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

  Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

  All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

  Any VFB swappers left? 
  Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

  Cheers,
  DonO



  DonO

From: haerb...@comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:19 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph

What is this swap about?  Who is hosting?  What are we tying?

BobH

  On January 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM rene.zillm...@t-onlne.de wrote: 


  Hi Don, 
  Sure, 100 tiers.
  R
  Rene

  Gesendet mit meinem HTC

  - Nachricht beantworten - 
  Von: "DonO"  
  An:  
  Betreff: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph 
  Datum: Sa., Jan. 19, 2019 20:12

  This is filling pretty quick.
  Does anyone have a cut-off point, how many tiers max?
  (The PSQN is a simple pattern, so tying a few extra should do your arsenal 
well.)
  I’m still working on holding on to a fly rod without being able to feel it in 
my hand.  Good side of that- cheap fly rods ‘feel’ just like high dollar ones.  
I’m going to make a lanyard to attach the rod handle butt end to my wrist.


  Tiers:   (as of 1/19 am)

  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.
  10.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar. 

  DonO




  From: DonO
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph


  Howdy All,

  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to d

Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek

[DonO]

I met Mike when we tied at the Holland Flyfair in ‘98.  We hit it off and spent 
a lot of time together while there in Holland, as he was experienced in Europe 
do’s and don’t.  He was quite the character and had a larger-than-life but 
rough personality.  We became good friends and met up again a few times over 
the years at fly shows.

He had a great sense of warped humor so he loved the Baits Hotel.  We tied at a 
table together in Denver years ago and he got to relieve me on breaks, doing 
the Baits Hotel routine (which he had learned over the years) and had a blast 
with his own showmanship.

My Mike Martinek Jr. Streamer Hooks now go into my collector’s box for safe 
keeping. 

When I tied my streamers for Darren’s 365 project, Mike was the high mark to 
shoot for.

Will miss him. 

DonO

From: Ron Boutin 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 5:20 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek

Mike was not a VFB member but a well known tyer. He specialized in streamers 
and knew all about their history. I think he may even authored a book on the 
subject. He tyed at many of the shows.  I watched him tie a few times, 

Ron


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  Peggy: Who are you talking about. Mike Martinek?? I’ve been in this group 14 
yrs (I think LOL) now and don’t remember ever seeing that name here. Was he a 
lurker?? Go by another name etc etc?? Chuck

   

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  Subject: [VFB] Mike Martinek

   

  For those who knew him from the shows he passed a week or so ago at 72. He 
had lived in assisted living for the past 5 years unable to get around, life in 
the e fast lane caught up.

   

  Peggy B

   

   

   

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[VFB] Sign-up list update 4-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/20 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.  Keith Passant
  14.
  15.
  16.
  17.
  18.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Mr. Keith, How’s Foster?  
I have you signed up. Like the good ol’ days. 
We still have a few spots open.
DonO

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Hi Don and co,
I have replied on two different threads but dont see the replies. Hey ho. If 
there is still room on the swap Im in but dont sweat it if theres not.
Glad to see you are well down the road to recovery Don and long may it continue 
to improve. 
Take care guys
Keith P 
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

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Jack,
Thanks for the story- very interesting.  

I’ve got some ‘upgrades’ to the basic pattern for you to try.  Lots of 
variations in Google images, but no rope-dub grub patterns.

Wisconsin is the ‘home’ for this pattern, isn’t it?

DonO

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Hi Don . . . Count me in too if we have a couple of months as recently posted.  

Did a trip to Wisconsin to visit my son and go to Kyle Zempel's trout camp. I 
was introduced to the Pink Squirrel at that time and landed a few trout with a 
tenkara rod. On returning to Indianapolis I ventured to the local pond with the 
Pink Squirrel still attached and decided what the heck let's just toss it in 
and see what happens. The fly hit the surface and about a foot under the water 
a big, really big sinister silver thing flashed on the fly and immediately 
broke me off. I have since tried pink squirrel flies several times on that pond 
and to my dismay have never gotten a single bite . . . not even from a 
bluegill. 

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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3d-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/19 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.  Mel Hocken
  12.  Jack Harford
  13.
  14.
  15.
  16.
  17.
  18.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

  DonO






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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3c-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Got you in, buddy.  Just waiting for your official email.
DonO

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Don: 

Don’t forget to add me to your swap?



Sent from my iPad 

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/19 am)
  1.  Rick Zieger
  2.  Allan Fish
  3.  Neville Gosling
  4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
  5.  Don Ordes
  6.  Renr Zillman
  7.  Gary Webb  *1
  8.  J Balmer
  9.  Ron Boutin
  10.  Alan Di Somma
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
  16.
  17.
  18.

  *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember 
details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, 
locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red 
salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

  Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole 
while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would 
be a good choice then.)

  *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

  DonO






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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Hi Ron, welcome to the swap.

Just turn them in before you leave, as early arrivals are no problem at all. 
Just need to settle on the quantity first, or you can just send in 100 in case 
Rene gets it that high.  lol

Sometimes late arrivals for the deadline hold up a swap for a little, or even 
drop-outs needing replacements. 

It’s a relaxed, fun thing, so slipped dates are not capital offenses (handled 
in lower case court).

DonO

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Nymph

I would like to join in however I am leaving on a road trip in 3 weeks. Any 
idea on the due date ?  

Ron  B.
Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/19 am)
1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
5.  Don Ordes
6.  Renr Zillman
7.  Gary Webb  *1
8.  J Balmer
9.  Ron Boutin
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

*1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember details 
of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, locate 
your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red salmon 
egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole while 
sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would be a 
good choice then.)

*2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
  A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

DonO





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[VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

This is filling pretty quick. 
Does anyone have a cut-off point, how many tiers max?
(The PSQN is a simple pattern, so tying a few extra should do your arsenal 
well.)
I’m still working on holding on to a fly rod without being able to feel it in 
my hand.  Good side of that- cheap fly rods ‘feel’ just like high dollar ones.  
I’m going to make a lanyard to attach the rod handle butt end to my wrist. 
 
Tiers:   (as of 1/19 am)

1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
5.  Don Ordes
6.  Renr Zillman
7.  Gary Webb  *1
8.  J Balmer
9.
10.

*1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember details 
of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection box, locate 
your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red salmon 
egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).

Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole while 
sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN would be a 
good choice then.)

*2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.  
(Tenkara approach)
  A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg 
collar.  

DonO




From: DonO 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM
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Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph


Howdy All,

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for a 
swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and have 
probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a 
collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

Any VFB swappers left? 
Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

Cheers,
DonO



 
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[VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Tiers:

1.  Rick Zieger
2.  Allan Fish
3.  Neville Gosling
4.  Chuck Alexander
5.  Don Ordes
6.  
7.
8.
9.
10.

I will type out final details once the swap is officially filled.
Nice seeing all these names again. 

DonO




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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM
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Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph


Howdy All,

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for a 
swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and have 
probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a 
collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

Any VFB swappers left? 
Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

Cheers,
DonO



 
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Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

HI Neville.

These are very simple ties, so I figured a couple of months after sign-up 
period, which should be about a month.

DonO

From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:49 PM
To: VFB 
Subject: Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

When is the submission deadline? I hhave rather a lot on right now but wouldn’t 
mind joining in. 

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
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  On Jan 18, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Chuck Alexander  
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  I’d like in on it, Chuck
   
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DonO
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:15 PM
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  Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
   
   
  Howdy All,
   
  I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.
   
  I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.
   
  If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!

   
  Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
   
  1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
  2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
  3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
  4.  Broad range of quarry fish
  5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
   
  6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
  7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
a collar per the photo archives)
  8.  Gold or silver bead
  9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
   
  10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
  11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 
   
  Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 
   
  Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
   
  All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.
   
  Any VFB swappers left? 
  Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
   
  Cheers,
  DonO
   
   
   
   
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Re: AW: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Does “!” mean you’re in?

From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:19 PM
To: VFB Mail 
Subject: AW: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

!
Rene




- Nachricht beantworten -
Von: "DonO" 
An: 
Betreff: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
Datum: Fr., Jan. 18, 2019 23:14


Howdy All,

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

I found an interesting fly on the interne?t that would be a good candidate for 
a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
have probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a 
collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

Any VFB swappers left? 
Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

Cheers,
DonO



 
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[VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[DonO]

Howdy All,

I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
keep my energy up.

I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for a 
swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and have 
probably fished it.

If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!


Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)

1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
4.  Broad range of quarry fish
5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose

6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a 
collar per the photo archives)
8.  Gold or silver bead
9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern

10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. 
(Story?) 

Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 

Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.

All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
with a common theme.

Any VFB swappers left? 
Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.

Cheers,
DonO



 

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Re: [VFB] Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

[DonO]

Hi Deb!  How’s Toto???  

Very nice to hear from you again. Missed you a lot.
Hope everything is going well for you.

Cant type as much as I did, so will keep it short.

Welcome back!
DonO

From: dsdur...@msn.com 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:43 PM
To: VFB Mail 
Subject: [VFB] Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

Hi Guys, 
I can't remember ever using this forum but I'm testing it out to see if this 
post comes through. I took a very long break from tying publicly, I stepped 
back from the Whting team to work on my degree. A few of you were so 
encouraging and supportive of me while I worked my way through school. THANK 
YOU!!!  I still tie for my own fishing and fun but not as much as I would like 
to. I'm in a different pond now than I was used to so I'm adjusting to that 
also. I miss the salt water. I spend more time tying Hans CDC Elk hair caddis 
flies and timy trout flies... WOW what a change for me.  I finally have a new 
desk to set up and hopefully make a more comfortable place to tie for my self 
than out of boxes. I wanted to reach out and see how Don O was doing. He's been 
on my mind.  I've kept in touch with a few of you but I have stepped very far 
back from public tying while I put myself through school and joined the working 
world. Now I finally have some time for myself again and I have been thinking 
about so many of my friends that I haven't been able to keep in touch with as 
much as I would like to .For those of you who knew me you will remember me as 
Deb Duran. 
I hope all of you are well. Tony, I still love my froggies!!! I have read some 
updates on you and I hope all is going well for you this holiday.
I've never lost touch with Peggy and I look forward to seeing you and Jerry 
this spring again.
Now with any luck this will post. Happy Holidays to you all.
Best, 
Deb Neuwirth

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Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

[DonO]

Coming through in IDAHO

From: MartinWestbeek 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 12:49 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

Testing2

 

Van: MartinWestbeek [mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl] Namens deltac...@wxs.nl
Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2018 20:49
Aan: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

 

Testing…

 

Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] Namens Paul 
Marriner
Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2018 19:04
Aan: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

 

Preparing to tie some Usuals at our first pub session Tuesday.

 

Paul

 

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  What is in your vices? 

"J Balmer" : Nov 10 09:59AM -0600 

I will be tying tomorrow, spent part of yesterday organizing materials 
etc. redoing to entire basement one square @ a time
 
J
 
-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Rene Zillmann
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:31 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?
 
Hi Nobody tying? Or is the list dead?
 
Rene
 
 
On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
 
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
 
> And what are you doing?
 
> Rene
 
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ladyflytyer : Nov 10 04:55PM -0500 

Soft hackles this winter, then red fish flies for TexasPeggySent from 
my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
 
 Original message 
From: Rene Zillmann  
Date: 11/9/18 2:50 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices? 
 
Ok, nobody is tying any fly?Running out off hackle?R.On 11/02/2018 
09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:> Hi,>> winter is approaching - at least in the 
northern part of the globe.>> What are you doing to tie next?>> I'll do 2 main 
things:>> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body > 
colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.>> And I'll do some 
variations for EHCs for a similar reason.>> And what are you doing?>>> Rene>-- 
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Pete Gramp : Nov 10 05:46PM -0500 

Tied some lively legz nymphs this afternoon. By "some" I mean 2. But in
all fairness I was chatting with my son the whole while and he tied with
me, also lively legz nymphs, also 2 of them, and we made 2 batches of
rabbit fur dubbing using a coffee grinder method, and he willingly spent
about 2 hours helping to clean up the tying room a bit (it needs another
couple full days worth of cleaning... but we made a dent on it), so I
can't knock it one bit. I found my 6 packs of various shades of whiting
tailing packs / coq de leon, which I couldn't for the life of me locate 
up
until today, so that made me thrilled. If I make it to the International
Fly Tying Symposium in New Jersey this next weekend, I hope to pick up 
some
more CDL tailing packs - I may have 6 packs, but the quantity of 

Re: [VFB] What is in your vices? back to the vise

[DonO]

Rene,
Getting ready to start over to learn how to tie flies again. 

Medications messed with the signals to my right hand over the past 2 months, so 
it wouldn't do much more than spas out, twitch, tingle, and then not do any 
small muscle chores other than cut with the scissors.  

Tied Percy to prove to myself it was possible. Now I need to pick back up where 
I left off with my first rope-dub efforts since stroke.

DonO



-Original Message- 
From: Rene Zillmann 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 12:50 PM 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices? 

Ok, nobody is tying any fly?

Running out off hackle?

R.


On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>
> What are you doing to tie next?
>
> I'll do 2 main things:
>
> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body 
> colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>
> And what are you doing?
>
>
> Rene
>

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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices? HACKLE

[DonO]

Rene, are you needing hackle?
DONo

-Original Message- 
From: Rene Zillmann

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

Ok, nobody is tying any fly?

Running out off hackle?

R.


On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:

Hi,

winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.

What are you doing to tie next?

I'll do 2 main things:

I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors, 
to the the effect of the various colors next year.


And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.

And what are you doing?


Rene



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Re: [VFB] Out of hospital, and now looking for fly patterns

[DonO]

Pete, 
Email me your phone # off list so I can call you, please.
Answered your wife’s email, but no reply.
DonO

From: Pete Gramp 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 9:28 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Out of hospital, and now looking for fly patterns

So my not-so-brilliant body decided it would play a trick on me and would 
suddenly go into what the hospital staff called "DKA" - Diabetic ketoacidosis - 
which essentially means that while the blood sugar levels of a "normal" person 
are in the 70 to 100 range, mine were 1085 when I was admitted to the hospital 
and rushed immediately to the Emergency Room and then passed to the Intensive 
Care Unit.  Two weeks later, and 43 pounds lighter (supposedly from my organs 
eating themselves, and the muscles around them, and not from fat loss), I was 
discharged from the hospital and told I'm now a diabetic in the "severely 
diabetic" category with blood sugar levels still in the upper 200's to lower 
300's.  Still on short term disability and off work, until they get my blood 
sugars back down in the more "normal" range.   

Biggest pain in the neck, besides my general weakness, is that my eyesight 
comes and goes with the blood sugar levels.  I'm told this will get back to 
normal when my blood sugar levels return back to more reasonable levels, but 
for the time being, I am struggling with tying anything smaller than size 12.  
and to be honest, size 12 is kind of a challenge too, but I refuse to go much 
larger than that.  

Does anyone have any relatively simple fly patterns that they could send me 
off-list for some size 12 flies (dries or nymphs preferred please, as I have 
plenty of soft hackles and streamers and I don't have much opportunity for use 
of salt or salmon and my eyes aren't up for traditional wets or full dressed 
atlantic salmon or spey, etc.)?  I'm not looking for the simplicity of a san 
juan worm, but then again, I'm not much better than that with my eyesight right 
now... perhaps it is wishful thinking that I say I wish for something a bit 
more complex than that... but I desire a challenge.

Thanks for any suggestions in the way of patterns you can send off-list!
-Pete
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio/ + VFB Fly Offer

[DonO]

Tony, calling is fine. Just on/off busy also.  Lots of appointments.  All of my 
therapy has been put in hold until we figure out what is going on with my 
pelvis. The X-rays yesterday showed everything normal, so it has to be a nerve.

VFB:  Fly-tie offer:
I am still basically housebound, and looking for something I can do to 
challenge my right hand for therapy.

If anyone wants to send me some dubbings they would like samples of rope-dubbed 
bodies with different effects and different sizes and with some new pattern 
ideas, just send me the dubbing or dubbings along with the hooks you want them 
on, and I will post on photos on VFB and send the flies off to you. I have a 
new address. Just ask.  Please include SASE or box for the samples.

An example would be this fl. green lamb’s wool:  
w/sample


Regards,
Don




From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:04 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

Don, got it and will reply later. Too much going on here right now. 
Woulf prefer to call you and talk direct.
Tony

On Friday, October 19, 2018, 11:30:53 AM CDT, DonO  wrote: 


Tony, I replied off list. Did you get it?

To my VFB friends- Getting X-rays and MRIs done on my hip in the next few days 
to check why there’s so much pain.  Say a prayer for me that they find a 
problem they can fix.

Tight Lines,
DonO

From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 10:02 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

Hi Don,
I have been meaning to give you a call and talk a while.
I have had a couple of strokes but with no ill effects. I am thankful for that.
I was in hospitals and nursing home for just over three months and back in the 
hospital twice since then.
I am having to learn how to do several different things with this foot and 
partial leg amputation.
I know you are hindered in your situation and I pray it will change for the 
better.
If you want to talk about it fel free to contact me and we can talk.
I tried to tie at the FFF Fly Fair last week but found I had the shakes too bad 
to do any tying. I just visited with others.
Tony

On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 2:01:45 PM CDT, Rene Zillmann 
 wrote: 


Hi Tony,

great message. Best wishes from Germany

Rene




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  I am doing well but as i said I have to learn to do some things different. I 
am not able to get in the shop yet to do any rod work but I plan of getting 
back to it as soon as I can.
  BTW, got a load of friend requests today asking to fwd to all my friends. DO 
NOT ACCEPT ANY FRIEND REQUESTS FROM ME ON FACEBOOK.
  Tony

  On Saturday, October 6, 2018, 8:49:55 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com wrote: 


  Hey DonO 


  It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how 
you are doing. I hope very well.

  Neville (Nev) Gosling


  On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO  wrote:

  thank, Allan- card on the way.
  Don

  From: Allan Fish
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:00 PM
  To: rodmak...@goldrush.com ; VFB
  Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio

  FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part 
of his foot removed.

  Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

  Tony Spezio
  Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
  6152 AR-202
  Flippin, AR 72634 


  Allan

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[DonO]

Tony, I replied off list. Did you get it?

To my VFB friends- Getting X-rays and MRIs done on my hip in the next few days 
to check why there’s so much pain.  Say a prayer for me that they find a 
problem they can fix.

Tight Lines,
DonO

From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 10:02 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

Hi Don,
I have been meaning to give you a call and talk a while.
I have had a couple of strokes but with no ill effects. I am thankful for that.
I was in hospitals and nursing home for just over three months and back in the 
hospital twice since then.
I am having to learn how to do several different things with this foot and 
partial leg amputation.
I know you are hindered in your situation and I pray it will change for the 
better.
If you want to talk about it fel free to contact me and we can talk.
I tried to tie at the FFF Fly Fair last week but found I had the shakes too bad 
to do any tying. I just visited with others.
Tony

On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 2:01:45 PM CDT, Rene Zillmann 
 wrote: 


Hi Tony,

great message. Best wishes from Germany

Rene




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  I am doing well but as i said I have to learn to do some things different. I 
am not able to get in the shop yet to do any rod work but I plan of getting 
back to it as soon as I can.
  BTW, got a load of friend requests today asking to fwd to all my friends. DO 
NOT ACCEPT ANY FRIEND REQUESTS FROM ME ON FACEBOOK.
  Tony

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mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com wrote: 


  Hey DonO 


  It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how 
you are doing. I hope very well.

  Neville (Nev) Gosling


  On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO  wrote:

  thank, Allan- card on the way.
  Don

  From: Allan Fish
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:00 PM
  To: rodmak...@goldrush.com ; VFB
  Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio

  FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part 
of his foot removed.

  Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

  Tony Spezio
  Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
  6152 AR-202
  Flippin, AR 72634 


  Allan

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[DonO]

Hi Tony, very glad indeed you are home and recovering well.  Looking forward to 
you being on line again. 
Hope your recovery will allow you to do the things you love. If you can tie 
again that would be a real blessing.

For me, the jury is still out on regaining functional use of my right hand. We 
are also trying to figure out what’s wrong with my right hip- hampering my 
walking progress severely.  Strokes are no fun.

Cheers and welcome back. 

DonO



From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 6:53 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

Got more last night amd this morning. Changed password.
Tony

On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 8:16:38 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
 wrote: 


Hi Tony: 

I am getting them too. I think there is a scam in operation.

neville


On Oct 7, 2018, at 17:25, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

I am doing well but as i said I have to learn to do some things different. I am 
not able to get in the shop yet to do any rod work but I plan of getting back 
to it as soon as I can.
BTW, got a load of friend requests today asking to fwd to all my friends. DO 
NOT ACCEPT ANY FRIEND REQUESTS FROM ME ON FACEBOOK.
Tony

On Saturday, October 6, 2018, 8:49:55 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
 wrote: 


Hey DonO 


It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how you 
are doing. I hope very well.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO  wrote:

thank, Allan- card on the way.
Don

From: Allan Fish
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:00 PM
To: rodmak...@goldrush.com ; VFB
Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio

FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part of 
his foot removed.

Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

Tony Spezio
Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
6152 AR-202
Flippin, AR 72634 


Allan

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[DonO]

thank, Allan- card on the way.
Don

From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:00 PM
To: rodmak...@goldrush.com ; VFB 
Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio

FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part of 
his foot removed.

Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

Tony Spezio
Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
6152 AR-202
Flippin, AR 72634 


Allan

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[VFB] new mouse - Percy

[DonO]

To my friends at the VFB - an update and some good news.

My recovery from the stroke is going very well and quickly.  Feeling a 
little better each day, but it still feels like  I was rode hard and put up 
wet.


I have 'issues' with the entire right side of my body, but therapy has given 
me limited use of the affected areas.

I have progressed to a cane for walking, but I'm nowhere mobile yet.
My eyesight will take time, but I'm told it will recover- hopefully back to 
normal. No hope of tying a #32 RC right now.  40% blind (the right side of 
each eye gone).


So that leaves my right hand- the real meat of this memo.

I decided to challenge it and myself by tying a mouse pattern as my first 
try.  A 1-hour tie took over 20 hours- lost track of time.  Just threading 
the bobbin took an hour (spastic muscles with no feeling), tying an anchor 
took 2 hours. You get the picture- not pretty.
But out of it crawled Percy (for 'perseverance').  He's not too tightly 
wrapped, but that applies to the tier also. But he looks good for a Baits 
Hotel resident.


Joyce knows what this fly represent in stroke therapy just 3 months in.

Next- rope dubbing.

Working on my fly casting also. Not pretty either. Neither is my penmanship.

But I did manage to draw a fly if anyone wants to see my 'Picasso'.

Regards, Don



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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[DonO]

Tony is in our prayers also.  Special man.
DonO

From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 12:45 PM
To: VFB 
Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

Tony is currently having some pretty severe complications.  He's been in the 
hospital for a week and will likely be in for at least another week then will 
have to go to a nursing home for rehab.  He preferred that I not go into 
details on the list.

He has some requests for everyone:

1)NO CALLS TO HIS HOME -  Dot is getting overwhelmed with local calls 
and she is not in the best of shape either.
2)NO CALLS TO HIS CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME - he is having trouble 
talking and breathing and it totally exhausts him.
3)NO E-MAILS  AT THIS TIME -   Tony has no access to e-mails while he 
is in the hospital.  The last time he was in the hospital, he had received so 
many e-mails that he wasn't even able to read them and doesn't want that to 
happen again.  He hopes to be able to use his laptop once he gets in the rehab 
facility.
4)NO CARDS AT THIS TIME - they would have to go to the hospital and 
then get transferred, or they would go to his home and someone would have to go 
out there to get them and then bring them to him.

After Tony gets moved, he will let us know the best way to contact him.  

If you pray, he appreciates being kept in our prayers.  

Allan

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Re: [VFB] PRogress from Don Ordes

[DonO]

To all my friends on vfb..  THANKS FOR ALL OFF YOUR PRAYERS AND WELL WISHES.

it's me, well, a good part of me anyway.
The stroke hit my right half (left side of brain) so lost all movement and 
feeling on right side of my body.

also lost the vision on right side of both eyes.
so I'm typing with left hand with a small arc of vision.  This is my 1st 
email work since stroke.


I've been home two weeks now and am progressing with therapy and recovery 
very well according to therapists.
Using my right hand for some things, but still have no feeling, which is 
weird.
I am doing some walking therapy, but again no feeling.  Hope all feeling 
comes back with time.


Still have appt. with eye doctor next week. Hope he can do something.
Don't know about the numbness in my face, will have to check later- big 
fallout

of that is drooling at times, and then the constant numbness..

Had to sell the new home we just bought to get a single level.  All went 
amazingly fast and well. Will post new address soon.


Can't tell you how much of a blessing it is to have a fantastic wife who 
stepped up to the plate as hit nothing but homers since that night.  My 
incredible sister came up from Mesa as has been an a incredible helper for 
both Cheryl and me.


Alan DiSomma is due here Sunday and we will be discussing my fly business 
and what of mine to sell. Plus we'll discuss fate of video projects.


All input is welcome.  Have no idea on what I'll recover after time, but I 
have a lot to get sold to simplify and cover meds.


Well, at the limit of my endurance for now.  Took over an hour for this 5 
minute email.


As you can imagine, I have a lot of recovery time on my hands, so reading 
emails from my friends would be much appreciated and great for my mental 
therapy.  Hope you are all having wonderful summers.


Very Best Regards,
Don





-Original Message- 
From: Neville Gosling

Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:05 PM
To: VFB
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight, 
but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was 
followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He 
like Don is still in hospital.


Neville (Nev) Gosling
BC Canada



On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:


In my prayers
Arkansas Tony

On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:

Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM

Hello to everyone, this is his
son, Donny.

Thank you so
much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
everyone and to say hello.

He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
difficult by itself.

However, he is steadily making progress in his
recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
him to help with his rehab.

Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
your thoughts and questions to him.

Thank you.

DVO


-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
Sent: Tuesday,
May 1, 2018 8:58 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

All,

are there any updates on Don?

KR

Rene


On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:

Fellow VFB’ers..

About two weeks ago

Don Ordes had a stroke.

He finished the

Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.

Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday

morning he had a stroke.

Was in ECU for

a week and his son came and drove him home.

He is going thru physical therapy now back

in Idaho.


It would

be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get
well email?



Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di

Somma

Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to

make only once.






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[VFB] Vacation near Phoenix

[DonO]

Hi All,
Planning a trip to Mesa AZ soon.  Does anyone live in the area that can give me 
some good fishing tips?
Or if you’ve fished there and know the territory, that’s good too.
I plan on visiting the Desert Sportsman in Scottsdale?  Is this a good fly 
shop?  Looks like it.
Going to call them later today, see if I can set up a tying clinic.
Thanks,
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Re: [VFB] Late Bugger Swap -- Pete

[DonO]

Pete,
Have Andrew tie them.He should be an ACE tier having had you as his tutor.

Hope you get to feeling better.  I haven’t had a cold or flu in 30 years, never 
a flu shot and also around sick ones all the time.  Cayenne Pepper.  Hot enough 
meals to sweat (cook it into the foods, do not sprinkle on top).  Or cheat and 
take the de-heated capsules (health-food store).  Capsicum is a natural 
antiviral.

If you can’t tie them, that’s OK.  I’ll replace yours with rope-dub grub-bug 
samples. Will be a full swap. 

DonO 

From: Pete Gramp 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 11:37 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Late Bugger Swap -- flies were send

Bout of the flu here, and not done the flies.  I respectfully ask to drop out 
of the bugger swap.  One day I was perfectly healthy, worked a 14hr day, next 
day I've got something that tests positive for Inf B on the fast test for flu.  
I am on Tamiflu, but don't want to delay the swap any more than it already is.  
Unfortunately, I have a backlog being created at work while out, so I wouldn't 
have much time once over this flu to tie flies, at least for a week or so, so 
I'm going to have to be "that guy" and drop out.  I apologize profusely.  For 
the record, I jokingly blame my getting the flu on the 14hrs of work and lack 
of fishing... though in these temps, it wouldn't have helped matters to be 
fishing in the cold...

Thanks for understanding, 
-Pete

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Rene Zillmann <rene.zillm...@t-online.de> 
wrote:

  Don,

  this is the English name of the town I live.

  They sell a famous fragrance, called 4711 Kölnisch Wasser, what in your neck 
of the woods might be called 'Cologne', just an abbreviation.

  Rene



  On 01/26/2018 05:20 PM, DonO wrote:

Well at least they should smell good.  Could name them 'Bruts'.

DonO

-Original Message- 
From: Rene Zillmann 
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:34 PM 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Late Bugger Swap -- flies were send 

Hi Don,

I'm late, however this was the name of the swap...

My bugger left Cologne 2 days ago.

KR

Rene

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Re: [VFB] Late Bugger Swap -- flies were send

[DonO]

Well at least they should smell good.  Could name them 'Bruts'.

DonO

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Subject: [VFB] Late Bugger Swap -- flies were send 

Hi Don,

I'm late, however this was the name of the swap...

My bugger left Cologne 2 days ago.

KR

Rene

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Re: [VFB] Rope-bugger swap update- finally

[DonO]

Rope-dub Bugger Swap Update.

Hectic weekend at the Boise Valley Fly Fishers Expo, but was a lot of fun.  I 
tied all sessions, so it was long days.  
STATUS UP DATE:  Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:

1. Don Ordes – In progress
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger -  RECEIVED
6. Peggy Brenner – RECEIVED
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling - RECEIVED
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford – RECEIVED
11. Jay Balmer
12. Mike Bliss – RECEIVED

DonO

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[VFB] Rope-bugger swap update- finally

[DonO]

Rope-buggers and...,

Sorry to take so long getting an update posted.  I have two sets received so 
far.  Just got finished re-doing my new fly room and so I am busy trashing it 
trying to get ready for the show in Boise this week-end. The whole house-moving 
was a ton of work.  Did it all ourselves. 

I really regret buying a home now without a shop already built. Have one in 
planning, but moving out of a 1600 square foot shop without a shop to move to 
has been a real challenge. Paying an armandaleg for storage. 

Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:

1. Don Ordes – In progress
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger -  RECEIVED
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling - RECEIVED
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford – IN TRANSIT
11. Jay Balmer
12. Mike Bliss – IN TRANSIT

When I get my new fly room straightened up again after the show this weekend, 
I’ll post a photo of it for a new ‘swap the mess’ photo-pool.  These were fun 
in the past and gave me ideas how to organize portions of my junk.  I have the 
biggest fly-room I’ve had so far, and it’s still not big enough for retirement.
I really miss my old home (with the swimming pool in the video), but I will 
have more time to fish all the great water around the Boise/Nampa area.  The 
new home has a big garden area, so a greenhouse is on order.  Have to have my 
veggies for my Cajun and Indian curry cooking.
Thanks for worrying about me, too.  I’m still battling high blood sugar, but 
feel very healthy.  Down from 300# to 220# and still dropping, so that part is 
great. (Having no clothes that fit is the downside. Even need new waders. No 
kidding.  My suits look like the young Tom Hanks in BIG when he changed back.)  
I’m off blood-pressure meds and getting readings of high-teens and 20s / 70s 
and 80’s, so I’m good with that.  What’s working?  Not eating out, not 
over-eating, low sugar/carb (but some ok), no milk, cardio exercise (need more 
now that we’re moved in).  I‘m planning to pump iron again, too. 
Enough about me, how are you VFBers doing?  Is it roll-call time again? How 
many IOFFers are left?  
DonO
   

From: Michael Bliss 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:02 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don . . . . Buggers should arrive today

Very nice job on the video.  My flies should be there soon too.

Mike

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca> wrote:

  That’s good. I was thinking possibly something was wrong. I guess he has 
other things on his hands right now! I am sure we will hear from him in good 
time. 

  PS great Video.

  Neville (Nev) Gosling




On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 1/10/18 12:37 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:

  Hey Jack:

  Have you heard from Don lately? I have not had any response since before 
Christmas. Possibly computer problems or sick?  This is not like Don.

  Neville (Nev) Gosling



I got this from Don on Monday.  His son is now doing drone videos.  The 
caster in the video is the much-smaller-than-he-used-to-be DonO himself.

af





Mr. Fish,

Thought you might like to see this new video.

Any rope-dubbing questions yet? 

DonO


 
From: Donny Ordes [mailto:dvoford...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:47 AM
To: Don Ordes mailto:og...@tribcsp.com
Subject: New drone video


 
​

 High Above Idaho HD V1.0.mp4

​


 

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[VFB] Rope-dub bugger swap & progress

[DonO]

Nice looking flies, Jack.  ;o)  Ready to do one in 14/0 size?
No rush in getting them to me, only have one set so far.

Cheers,
Don

Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:
  (please add a little return postage.  thanks)

  1. Don Ordes *
  2. Rene Zillmann
  3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
  4. Allan Fish
  5. Rick Zieger ..Received
  6. Peggy Brenner
  7. Bob Hendry
  8. Neville Gosling
  9.  Pete Gramp
  10. Jack Hartford
  11. Jay Balmer
  12. Mike Bliss

  *Don Ordes
  3715 S. Twin Springs Way
  Nampa, ID 83686 

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[VFB] Rope-dub bugger swap

[DonO]

FRIENDS,
Well the move is finally over and we’re settling in.  Getting the house set up 
will take weeks at least.
You can start sending in the rope-dub buggers and I will start dividing them up 
and posting progress photos.
Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:
1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford
11. Jay Balmer
12. Mike Bliss

Don Ordes
3715 S. Twin Springs Way
Nampa, ID 83686 

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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

[DonO]

Jack,
I thought you got the Rope-dub DVD way back when.
DonO

From: Jack Harford 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:11 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

Hi Don 

I could use a little more insight into the rope dub technique too. 

Tight lines
Jack

On Oct 16, 2017 5:48 PM, "'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail" 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  Hi Do nO; 

  Been a little busy lately, I received the color palette, looks great!

  Wayneb




  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Rene Zillmann
<rene.zillm...@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Don,

got it, try to figure out which exotic material I might use to dub, 
Penguin? - no I'm kidding, no p. around here.

Rene




On 10/14/2017 02:46 PM, DonO wrote:

Rope-buggers,

Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to everyone?

    DonO

From: DonO 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

Wooly-bugger swappers:

As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry for 
the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.

These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different kinds 
of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve different looks 
for different fishing.
Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub 
method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something new 
for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.




Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer 
on the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually 
move, so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing date 
will be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.


Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
VIEW SLIDE SHOW DOWNLOAD ALL 

  This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 
1/12/2018. 
     


DonO



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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes- reply to Pete

[DonO]

fly hackle, but I'm intrigued with this possibility for both instances (I 
realize we were speaking of wooly buggers, which aren't exactly in the "dry 
fly" realm... by any stretch... but I am asking more as technique than strictly 
for the buggers).

Try it both ways, not just by looks on the vise, but see what the fish 
like. You can make buggers look like many swimming baits, from squids to 
leeches to minnows to shrimp to something that looks like nothing in the water, 
but the fish eat.  But every time you rope and experiment, remember every 
result -build your data-base of techniques.

If you have a midge hackle, you can hackle a small dry-fly roped body to 
help it stay afloat.  Whether roped-in or palmered is up to you. Or you can tie 
the roped natural fur body and brush it with a wire brush, then trim, to create 
the same fuzzy halo, which holds floatant and makes the fly float like a cork.

   Just 4 rules and the rest if up to experimentation. Hope this helped.  
DonO


Thanks, Don!  
Keep on tyin'
-Pete

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:06 AM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

  Mike and others,

  If you find one you like and can’t figure out the materials from enlarging 
the photo, tell me which fly you are looking at and I will post the recipe.  
Then you can change colors to whatever you like.

  The important thing is to try to rope dub a new material, even if it is a 
cactus chenille or old chenille with new flash component.  Or you can submit a 
design with sets of different colors.  No rules, just fun and experimentation. 

  I really like the looks of a spey feather (1 or more) roped in with dubbing 
or a chenille.  Really adds life to the design.  Black bugger- row 1 fly 1.  
That would be a great steel-head fly in bright colors.  

  I might do a few versions of that one for my swap-fly.  

  DonO

  From: Michael Bliss 
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:19 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

  I got it and waiting for some additional instructions.  I found one I want to 
try.   
  Mike


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:46 AM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:


Rope-buggers,

Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to everyone?

DonO

From: DonO 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

Wooly-bugger swappers:
As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry for 
the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.
These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different kinds 
of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve different looks 
for different fishing.
Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub 
method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something new 
for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.
<P1010004B[2].jpg>
<P1010006B[2].jpg>
Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer 
on the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually 
move, so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing date 
will be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.
  <-164674920514A3DCE2.png>  Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
VIEW SLIDE SHOW DOWNLOAD ALL 

  This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 
1/12/2018. 
  <9611746251BC3195A.png> 


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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

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Mike and others,

If you find one you like and can’t figure out the materials from enlarging the 
photo, tell me which fly you are looking at and I will post the recipe.  Then 
you can change colors to whatever you like.

The important thing is to try to rope dub a new material, even if it is a 
cactus chenille or old chenille with new flash component.  Or you can submit a 
design with sets of different colors.  No rules, just fun and experimentation. 

I really like the looks of a spey feather (1 or more) roped in with dubbing or 
a chenille.  Really adds life to the design.  Black bugger- row 1 fly 1.  That 
would be a great steel-head fly in bright colors.  

I might do a few versions of that one for my swap-fly.  

DonO

From: Michael Bliss 
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:19 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

I got it and waiting for some additional instructions.  I found one I want to 
try.   
Mike


Sent from my iPhone

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  Rope-buggers,

  Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to everyone?

  DonO

  From: DonO 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

  Wooly-bugger swappers:
  As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry for 
the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.
  These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different kinds 
of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve different looks 
for different fishing.
  Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub 
method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something new 
for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.
  <P1010004B[2].jpg>
  <P1010006B[2].jpg>
  Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer on 
the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually move, 
so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing date will 
be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.
<-164674920514A3DCE2.png>  Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
  VIEW SLIDE SHOW DOWNLOAD ALL 

This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 
1/12/2018. 
<9611746251BC3195A.png> 


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Re: [VFB] Picture Palette?

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I didn’t post it yet.  Don’t worry, won’t be difficult or restricting.

TUI – Tying Under the Influence.  Remember that swap?  I don’t, and I was in 
it.  And maybe I even meistered it.  Can’t wamember.

DonO  

From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:14 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Picture Palette?

Did you ever post this? What is TUI?

  I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)


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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list - update 3 Tyer #12

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VFB Friends, 

Mike Bliss will be tier #12.  Swap is closed.  Thanks very much.  

Rope-dub bugger swap list – 12 tiers:
1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford
11. Jay Balmer
12. Mike Bliss
 
Please read the ‘rules’ and I’ll post a pallet of bugger-styles, numbered. 

DonO


Rules for Rope-dub bugger swap:  (not really rules, just guidelines)

Swap is for 12 tiers.  

Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub bugger pattern, and each swapper 
ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats. (Posted selections on list)  You 
can post your recipe, and any unique tying steps (and photos if you want), 
which would expand the swap to tutorials. That’s optional though.

Again, I will post a picture palette of styles to give some food for thought, 
and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies are 
still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  

Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their comment or even their version 
(photo), that would make for a real fun swap with lots of participation that 
wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE 12.  Great.  I’ll get to work.

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list - update 3 Tyer #12

[DonO]

Who would like to be tier #12?

Rope-dub bugger swap list – List over-full.  Tyers mind doing a group of 12, 
let one more in?

1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford
11. Jay Balmer
12.  ?

 
DonO


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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

I will join doing a purple one.

Rick 






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Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎29‎, ‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎10‎:‎06‎ ‎AM
Subject: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their 
comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun swap with 
lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

Any takers?

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list - update 2

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Rope-dub bugger swap list – List over-full.  Tyers mind doing a group of 12, 
let one more in?

1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8. Neville Gosling
9.  Pete Gramp
10. Jack Hartford
11. Jay Balmer


DonO


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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

I will join doing a purple one.

Rick 






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Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎29‎, ‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎10‎:‎06‎ ‎AM
Subject: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their 
comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun swap with 
lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

Any takers?

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list - update 1

[DonO]

Rope-dub bugger swap list – 7/10ths of the way there.

1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zieger
6. Peggy Brenner
7. Bob Hendry
8.
9.
10.

Where Nick?

DonO


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I will join doing a purple one.

Rick 






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Subject: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their 
comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun swap with 
lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

Any takers?

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 Bugger swap list.

[DonO]

Rope-dub bugger swap list – half-way there already.

So far: 

1. Don Ordes 
2. Rene Zillmann
3. Wayne Blake-Hedges
4. Allan Fish
5. Rick Zeiger
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Getting Jim Moore to join in would make the list nostalgic, and filled with 
IOFF members.

DonO


From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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I will join doing a purple one.

Rick 






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Subject: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their 
comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun swap with 
lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

Any takers?

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

[DonO]

Great, glad to have you.  Hope we can get 10.

DonO

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Sounds like fun, I'm in! 

Wayneb


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  On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:10 AM, DonO
  <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
  Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

  I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

  Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

  This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

  I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

  If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless 
and buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that 
are just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

  I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a 
comment session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post 
their comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun 
swap with lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

  Any takers?

  DonO

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[VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

[DonO]

Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors.

This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even pike 
and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or combo 
must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats.

I will post a picture palette of styles and colors to give some food for 
thought, and then we tie one on. Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies 
are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials.

I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for a comment 
session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post their 
comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun swap with 
lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all.

Any takers?

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Fly tying at Iowa State Fair

[DonO]

Looking forward to seeing them.
DonO

From: Kevin Slater 
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Subject: [VFB] Fly tying at Iowa State Fair

Hey everyone. Rick Z mentioned me a couple weeks ago. I did enter 4 flies in 
the state fair fly tying contest. 2 of the 4 placed 2nd and 3rd. One was a deer 
hair pattern tied on 80mm shank, the KRSD Jerk is what i called it. The other 
was KRSD Rose.  
They are going to be mounted in a shadow box, by my fiance. I have to give her 
credit for encouraging me to enter it. 
I'll post some pics on FB when I can.
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Re: [VFB] Kevin Slater

[DonO]

Congrats!  Time to post some photos with the ribbons.

DonO  

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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:05 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Kevin Slater

He tied some flies for the fly tying contest at the Iowa state Fair.
Can't remember which flies won ribbons.

Rick 


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[VFB] On topic- auction fly

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I’m very happy the news about Charlie is positive, and I pray that he continues 
to recover fully.

On a fly topic, my Matlacha Streamer was chosen for the Boise Valley Fly 
Fisher’s Club as their 2018 logo-fly.  It will also appear on the pins and 
patches for the tiers at the show and club members.  You can see it on their 
web site http://www.boisevalleyflyfishers.wildapricot.org/BVFF-Expo.

In return for the nice honor, I’m donating the fly in a shadowbox frame for the 
banquet auction. Not sure of the date yet (not on the site), but I think it’s 
in the spring.

I miss the action on the VFB, so I thought I’d open the auction up also to VFB 
members to bid remotely on it by proxy bidders.  

If you are interested, please let me know, and I’ll set it up with the club to 
have proxy bidders with a maximum bid from you.  No $$ goes to me, as it’s all 
for the environmental work they do here.

If you are not interested, answer anyway and say ‘hi’ to let us see who’s still 
tuning in. 

This is what it will look like, unless I find a nicer frame:  (Want an 
island-themed frame- shopping)


It will also be signed and have a serial # of 1.  (Should be a nice investment 
for after I tie my last fly.)

Cheers,
DonO

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Re: [VFB] Health update- Pete

[DonO]

Pete,

Glad you got pain-free.  Do you drink carbonated drinks?  Stop. Your story 
sounds just like mine 30 years ago.  I had frequent stomach pain bouts that 
would bend me over like I had been stabbed. They were ready to do the 
barium/enema/X-ray deal, which I dreaded.  I quit pop and went no-bean veggie & 
chicken breast only with vigorous stomach massages.  With nothing to give me 
gas and pushing everything through, it worked almost immediately and I’ve never 
had the problem again.  Didn’t have the procedure, which I heard had serious 
after-effects.  

How’s Andrew doing with those flies?  Catching any fish?

DonO



From: Pete Gramp 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:08 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Health update

Well, they had me on the gurney for gallbladder removal surgery, and then the 
surgeon reread the ultrasound and bloodwork and CT and so on, and wanted more 
tests done (I think one is called HIDA, and there are two others I won't 
pretend to be able to type out correctly)... so for those who are aware, from 
my facebook close friends list, the surgery was cancelled for the gallbladder 
removal, pending further tests. 
On the up-side of things, the surgeon poked and prodded all over my gut with 
just his gloved hands, and now this may be a placebo effect at its finest, but 
after 2 months of pain and uncertainty what it was, to be without any pain 
there, hey I'll take it!  It makes absolutely no logical sense to me how simply 
poking in my belly is going to make the pain stop, but indeed it did (maybe I 
had gas...haha) but seriously, I have no explanation for it - yet there it is, 
two days since he poked for a good 2 or 3 minutes straight, and now no pain.  
Like I said, I'm chalking it up to mind over matter, as in my mind playing 
tricks on me, but hey, I'll take no pain over the pain I had any day!  Now 
don't get me wrong, we still want to figure out what caused the pain in the 
first place, and what's up, but I thank my Lord for this blessing of no pain, 
and that I didn't have to go under the knife!

Just wanted to let those of you who may not have heard, know about this update.
Oh, and to keep it related... Fishing trip to Manchester VT and then Oakland/ 
Waterville ME (both USA) is still scheduled for 2 weeks in July, (if near 
either location, private message me if you'd like to get together and/or if you 
can recommend fishing locations to go it alone with extremely mild wading 
conditions, preferably from the banks/ shoreline of the streams and rivers for 
trout and the likes) and hopefully this mess doesn't keep our family from that 
vacation / holiday.

Hope this finds all of you well,
-Pete
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Re: [VFB] Tony & Dot

[DonO]

So very sorry to hear about this.  Our prayers go up for you.
If there’s anything we can do...

Don & Cheryl

From: ladyflytyer 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:24 PM
To: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
Subject: [VFB] Tony & Dot

Just a quick note to let everyone know that Tony  have lost a Grand 
daughter.

Peggy  B 

Lee Vining, CA



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[VFB] Livingston FFF Conclave

[DonO]

Is anyone but me and Peggy Brenner headed to the FFF Conclave in Livingston in 
August?
Peggy is a real trooper and got me a tying seat with a late request to tie.  
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Re: [VFB] Swap?

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I'd love to, but we have a late spring here and everything is crowded into 
May to get ready for summer.

Maybe if there were just 10 to 12 swappers.

DonO

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Guys & Gals.summer is fast approaching and beetles will be a favorite 
food for our swimming friends.


I would like to swap beetles with as many as 30 swappers?
Do I have any takers?

Swap would have to end before summer starts? Does May 30th sound too soon?


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
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Re: [VFB] Fantasy Fly news and updates- You-tube Channel

[DonO]

Thanks, Darren,

The photo-video is ‘Fly Fishing Streamers by DonO’ and my channel is ‘Fantasy 
Flies’.  I didn’t post my latest streamers as I want to do a actual video using 
‘Wing Things’ in the fly design.

To the right you’ll see a ‘photo-video’ of me tying at the Boise Expo this 
winter.

Both are just ‘get-it-started’ posts, so the next ones will be way better.  My 
SiL has never fly-fished or been around flies or fly-fishing all her life 
(chiropractor retiring), so I’m having to bring her along in her understanding 
of the business/hobby aspects as she works on the website and video editing.

She’s also a writer, getting her first novel published. So I may have some 
articles to to, but I’d rather do videos now.

We just posted the two You Tubes, and they’re nothing special, so not many 
views or subscribers.  Hoping the new videos will change that.  We chopped up 
DVD #1 into smaller web-based segments so tiers who couldn’t afford the DVD 
could download segments of the DVD for just a few bucks. The You-Tube trailer 
will be a teaser for the technique.  We’ll see how it goes. 

DVD #2 – advanced rope-dubbing- will be technique-by-technique and applied 
flies on the website.  So each video segment could be 10 minutes long and 
contain a whole lot of information.  Dubbing with raw, unblended furs could 
easily be a 1-hour video.  We’ll post pattern videos on You Tube to get traffic 
to the website.

DonO

From: Pacres 
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Congrats Don. cant wait to see your videos. What is your YouTube page? We can 
subscribe now to get notified when you post the videos. 

Darren

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:23 PM Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:

  Congratulations Don. I know you deserve it.  


  phxflytyer
  Phoenix,AZ




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take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
  Henry Ford

On Apr 14, 2017, at 3:28 PM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:


Just some fly news for retirement-time this summer.  Got many irons in the 
fire, so it’s very hectic.  Getting in sync with my sister-in-law (new web 
master) is taking a little time, but is coming along well.  New tricks + old 
dogs don’t mix well.
Fly-Side News:
1. My Matlacha Rainbow Streamer (below) was chosen for the expo pin 
logo-fly for the Western Idaho Fly Fishing Expo 2018  scheduled for Jan 13 & 
14, 2018.  There was a contest for ‘the best pin fly design’, so I declined 
since I don’t enter competitions.  They came back to me since they really liked 
the streamers I donated to their conservation auction at the last show and 
banquet. So I just sent the MR photo below and told them if they want to use it 
they could. 
They just got back and said it would be the logo fly on the official Show 
Pin next year. They usually pick full dress salmon flies.
<Mat%201-resized[4].jpg>
2. Website:  Completely re-doing FantasyFlies.com with a new web-page 
program and provider.  Will be much easier to post new photos, articles, 
videos, etc.  No one but Darren can upgrade the html-based site as it is now, 
so I have to switch to non-genius format. Thanks Darren (Pacres) for your help 
years ago.
3. Rope-dubbing videos are progressing, and have the 1st one for You-tube 
very close (trailer video- lol).  Had to set me up a You Tube Channel with all 
the bells and whistles, so that took some time.  Posted some short videos of 
photos of me at the Idaho Falls show this spring, and one of some streamers- 
just to test our posting settings.  Looking good.  Needed the website addressed 
1st for this also, with a modified Rope Dub page.  Lots of work.
4. #32 video.  Have it in editing with SiL for video trials for macro 
clarity, and I think we’ve got it down now. Will do one more tie, and then some 
clips of setting up the materials, then final edit and post.  I want to have 
the website and channel done before I post in case I get any views or traffic. 
Hope fully it will be as good quality-wise as the Rope Dub #1 DVD video was.  
Have had to learn my Sony Handi-cam and the editing software with SiL.
5. 14/0 Giant Flies- Making a new group of giant flies and will be posting 
individual photos of each as they are finished.  That way a buyer gets exactly 
what he or she ordered.  This will be new- Flies for sale page. Will be how I 
feed myself after retirement this summer.
6.  Big Classic Streamers in clear presentation boxes- Will order the 
plastic display boxes soon to set my large show-streamers in to sell as 
individuals.  Also getting my wood shop set up for shadow-box framing groups.  
Should be fun.  All will be on the new website. 
So LOTS going on, plus getting done a few other things I’ve been putting 
off.  
DonO

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[DonO]

Peggy, thanks.

I figure I could go with my big flies even longer, just about until I go blind. 
 lol

I am not going to commercially tie.  Too much competition, stress, and I make 
more per hour with my custom flies.

Facebook may be coming,but have too much now to figure out.

Have you heard from Deb Duran?  How is she doing?

Thanks Again,
Don

From: Peggy Brenner 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Fantasy Fly news and updates

So you have retired as well?  You will not regret the decision.  I figure we 
can keep the fly tying going into our mid to late 70's, there is so much less 
stress. Also, a lesson from some of these younger tiers, no or very few shop 
orders, they are doing well with direct sales on web, Instragram and FB.  I've 
done just under $3K from FB this year.


Peggy


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:28 PM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

  Just some fly news for retirement-time this summer.  Got many irons in the 
fire, so it’s very hectic.  Getting in sync with my sister-in-law (new web 
master) is taking a little time, but is coming along well.  New tricks + old 
dogs don’t mix well.
  Fly-Side News:
  1. My Matlacha Rainbow Streamer (below) was chosen for the expo pin logo-fly 
for the Western Idaho Fly Fishing Expo 2018  scheduled for Jan 13 & 14, 2018.  
There was a contest for ‘the best pin fly design’, so I declined since I don’t 
enter competitions.  They came back to me since they really liked the streamers 
I donated to their conservation auction at the last show and banquet. So I just 
sent the MR photo below and told them if they want to use it they could. 
  They just got back and said it would be the logo fly on the official Show Pin 
next year. They usually pick full dress salmon flies.

  2. Website:  Completely re-doing FantasyFlies.com with a new web-page program 
and provider.  Will be much easier to post new photos, articles, videos, etc.  
No one but Darren can upgrade the html-based site as it is now, so I have to 
switch to non-genius format. Thanks Darren (Pacres) for your help years ago.
  3. Rope-dubbing videos are progressing, and have the 1st one for You-tube 
very close (trailer video- lol).  Had to set me up a You Tube Channel with all 
the bells and whistles, so that took some time.  Posted some short videos of 
photos of me at the Idaho Falls show this spring, and one of some streamers- 
just to test our posting settings.  Looking good.  Needed the website addressed 
1st for this also, with a modified Rope Dub page.  Lots of work.
  4. #32 video.  Have it in editing with SiL for video trials for macro 
clarity, and I think we’ve got it down now. Will do one more tie, and then some 
clips of setting up the materials, then final edit and post.  I want to have 
the website and channel done before I post in case I get any views or traffic. 
Hope fully it will be as good quality-wise as the Rope Dub #1 DVD video was.  
Have had to learn my Sony Handi-cam and the editing software with SiL.
  5. 14/0 Giant Flies- Making a new group of giant flies and will be posting 
individual photos of each as they are finished.  That way a buyer gets exactly 
what he or she ordered.  This will be new- Flies for sale page. Will be how I 
feed myself after retirement this summer.
  6.  Big Classic Streamers in clear presentation boxes- Will order the plastic 
display boxes soon to set my large show-streamers in to sell as individuals.  
Also getting my wood shop set up for shadow-box framing groups.  Should be fun. 
 All will be on the new website. 
  So LOTS going on, plus getting done a few other things I’ve been putting off. 
 
  DonO
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[VFB] Fantasy Fly news and updates

[DonO]

Just some fly news for retirement-time this summer.  Got many irons in the 
fire, so it’s very hectic.  Getting in sync with my sister-in-law (new web 
master) is taking a little time, but is coming along well.  New tricks + old 
dogs don’t mix well.
Fly-Side News:
1. My Matlacha Rainbow Streamer (below) was chosen for the expo pin logo-fly 
for the Western Idaho Fly Fishing Expo 2018  scheduled for Jan 13 & 14, 2018.  
There was a contest for ‘the best pin fly design’, so I declined since I don’t 
enter competitions.  They came back to me since they really liked the streamers 
I donated to their conservation auction at the last show and banquet. So I just 
sent the MR photo below and told them if they want to use it they could. 
They just got back and said it would be the logo fly on the official Show Pin 
next year. They usually pick full dress salmon flies.

2. Website:  Completely re-doing FantasyFlies.com with a new web-page program 
and provider.  Will be much easier to post new photos, articles, videos, etc.  
No one but Darren can upgrade the html-based site as it is now, so I have to 
switch to non-genius format. Thanks Darren (Pacres) for your help years ago.
3. Rope-dubbing videos are progressing, and have the 1st one for You-tube very 
close (trailer video- lol).  Had to set me up a You Tube Channel with all the 
bells and whistles, so that took some time.  Posted some short videos of photos 
of me at the Idaho Falls show this spring, and one of some streamers- just to 
test our posting settings.  Looking good.  Needed the website addressed 1st for 
this also, with a modified Rope Dub page.  Lots of work.
4. #32 video.  Have it in editing with SiL for video trials for macro clarity, 
and I think we’ve got it down now. Will do one more tie, and then some clips of 
setting up the materials, then final edit and post.  I want to have the website 
and channel done before I post in case I get any views or traffic. Hope fully 
it will be as good quality-wise as the Rope Dub #1 DVD video was.  Have had to 
learn my Sony Handi-cam and the editing software with SiL.
5. 14/0 Giant Flies- Making a new group of giant flies and will be posting 
individual photos of each as they are finished.  That way a buyer gets exactly 
what he or she ordered.  This will be new- Flies for sale page. Will be how I 
feed myself after retirement this summer.
6.  Big Classic Streamers in clear presentation boxes- Will order the plastic 
display boxes soon to set my large show-streamers in to sell as individuals.  
Also getting my wood shop set up for shadow-box framing groups.  Should be fun. 
 All will be on the new website. 
So LOTS going on, plus getting done a few other things I’ve been putting off.  
DonO

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Re: [VFB] New Zealand

[DonO]

Reuven,

How are you doing?  

I've used up the Aussie possum you sent.  Have any more? I love the red-tinged 
parts (more like orange).
Just include it with the EP pelt.
Send anything you can, and I'll tie some hybrid flies for you.
I want to tie bi-polar flies, but I need penguin for the south pole.

DonO

-Original Message- 
From: Reuven Segal 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:44 PM 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand 

as indeed you should.and most certainly would!

Cockatoo feathers (yellow crest), wombat, lyrebird, wallaby, kangaroo, 
porcupine...Call it a PorcaWaKCockaLye Fly..sounds perverted if 
you read it right, but think what you can catch with it!! Probably an STD!!


On 16/03/2017 5:37 AM, DonO wrote:
> Reuven,
>
> Imagining a num-wombat-cat fly hybrid fly.
>
> DonO
>
> -Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:04 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand
>
> Well.look up MARSUPIAL, and imagine a fly made from 3 different 
> sources.
>
> An Aussie version of the TRIPOLAR.
>
>
> On 15/03/2017 4:36 PM, DonO wrote:
>> What's a TriSupial?   Nothing from search.
>> If a fish eats it, I'll tie one.
>>
>> And penguins die naturally by the 1000's every year.
>>
>> Emperor Penguin gets a triple mantle mount.
>>
>> DonO
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:52 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand
>>
>> When are you due to tie up a TriSupial fly. Easier to get that the
>> penguin. I can sort out various marsupial furs for perhaps a smaller
>> desk mount??  ;)
>>
>> This penguin hunt is going to be the death of me!
>>
>>
>> On 15/03/2017 12:44 PM, DonO wrote:
>>> How to cook a Roo.  Start with a nice roux.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:52 PM
>>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand
>>>
>>> Actually funny this topic should have come up yesterday. This is an
>>> article about it today!
>>>
>>> http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3930139/kangaroos-kicking-up-controversy/
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/03/2017 1:30 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>>>> Did a sunrise balloon trip in the outback, saw the only wild kangaroo
>>>> then. Wallaby were everywhere, but only the one kanga:)
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, March 14, 2017 1:41 am, Reuven Segal wrote:
>>>>> Melbourne really is a lovely city. The people here are a lot like
>>>>> Bostonians (?).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can take a balloon ride over the city. See them a lot when I 
>>>>> travel
>>>>> out early. Fishing is not as good as New Zealand but is very 
>>>>> challenging
>>>>> too. Shame we didn't get to meet. Until next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/03/2017 5:21 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know when we come back, but we'll probably spend 
>>>>>> more time
>>>>>> in New Zealand. Rob was awesome, we had over 2" of rain the day 
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> we went out, so the rivers were out. We went to a lake about the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> distance from Rotorua that was spring & creek fed & we found great
>>>>>> numbers of trout. Penguins were awesome, some passed right 
>>>>>> beneath my
>>>>>> feet:)
>>>>>> Liked Melbourne, but we were there less than 48 hours & there's a 
>>>>>> lot we
>>>>>>   didn't get to see & experience. On the list for the next time
>>>>>> through:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, February 20, 2017 1:17 am, Reuven Segal wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next trip then. Would have loved to catch up but remember that this
>>>>>>> is just a scouting trip. We have fishing to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How was the penguin parade? Did they perform on cue??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wha

Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

[DonO]

JimmyD,

Sorry to hear you're having such difficulties.  Old age creeps us on all of 
us, but it beats the alternative.


Are you still tying?

Don

Need your address:



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Subject: Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

Sure miss you guys
-Original Message-

From: Michael Bliss

Sent: Apr 10, 2017 9:00 PM

To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com"

Subject: Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today



We appreciate you
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Peggy Brenner  
wrote:

Yes I did, will get them posted before we head out.

Peggy

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Jack Harford  
wrote:

did you say you have some pictures??
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Peggy Brenner  
wrote:
there are 6 swappers getting a envelope with 2 dry flies, I missed them and 
had several packages so they went on their own.


This was a nice swap!

Thanks for taking part

Peggy

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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

[DonO]

Got some real nice flies in the mail today. 
Thanks to all the swappers for a real good job.

Peggy, are you still going to post pictures?

DonO

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there are 6 swappers getting a envelope with 2 dry flies, I missed them and had 
several packages so they went on their own.


This was a nice swap!


Thanks for taking part


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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[DonO]

Jack,

Are those #32 Tiemco or #32 Mustad?Big/Tiny difference.



From: Jack Harford 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:18 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

A friend ties 32s with a special 30 denier gelspun he gets from somewhere 
across the pond. 

On Apr 3, 2017 11:12 AM, "Pacres" <pac...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the UNI-Caenis 
thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine. I've only ever 
tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile. Cudos to you Don 
for tying at both extremes of the size scale. 

  On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:

I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy with 
my pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even when I 
take it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.




> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not tried 
the Vee?  thread.
> Tony
> 
> On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
> To: "VFB List" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
>
> I also
> should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still
> stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
>
>
> phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>
>  "Any man who thinks he can be
> happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
> him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."
> Henry
> Ford
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
> Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> When I fished the San Juan
> River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
> tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it
> better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
> easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
>
>
> phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>
>  "Any man who thinks he can be
> happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
> him; better take a closer look at the American
> Indian."
> Henry
> Ford
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2017, at
> 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) <n.runars...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I
> started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
> than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
> thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a little spool. That
> was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
> video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you
> were just moving your hand around it.  ;o)
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at
> 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> I tyed
> mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any
> more. It was a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once
> had. This hook is real small, it will fit in the gape of the
> sx 32 you might find today.
>
> -- --
>
> On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the
> making
>
>  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com"
> <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>
>  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
>
>
>
>  I am
>
>  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say
> I've
>
>  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I
> never
>
>  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit
> also
>
>  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I
> can
>
>  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad,
> any
>
>  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!
>
>  I've used caenis thread on
>
>  26's, and that was "big" thread for
> those (in
>
>  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials
> you
>
>  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any
> insights
>
>  into the materials - were any "unusual" or
 

Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[DonO]

I’m going to work on making the video more entertaining than a normal tutorial. 
 That means a lot of clips of the materials and tools used, comparing them to 
normal.  Then I’ll have section of the actual tie.  Since the tie itself is not 
practical for most tiers, I would think entertainment is the ultimate goal. And 
it’s even very hard to get ahold of the hooks these days. I’ll make sure the 
video clips migrate time to time to me tying without glasses or a magnifying 
glass just for proof of naked-eye tying.  A few years more and I’ll probably 
need a magnifying glass to tie these.

Thread check. I would not know what denier this is, but it’s close to 50/0 
denear as I can tell.  The hand-selected thread I use is so fine that one 
12”+/- strand of it floats up and away and disappears in a couple of seconds, 
like real baby-spider float-silk strands.  I sent Hans some awhile back.  It’s 
from a clothes-line that was clear tube over a spun multi-filament core.  I 
hope to be able to show all of this on the video, if I can still find a piece 
of the clothes-line in my stock-piles. The bobbin looks like it is hanging in 
space unless the light shines off of it just right.  My camera can catch it, 
don’t know if the video camera can. 

I’ll try to mix some humor in also, as I am want to do.  AAMOF, a fishing 
sequence with me catching a small trout on a #32 dropper would be sweet.  A #32 
Copper John would be the ticket for a dropper.

DOnO

From: Pacres 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:12 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the UNI-Caenis 
thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine. I've only ever 
tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile. Cudos to you Don 
for tying at both extremes of the size scale. 

On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:

  I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy with my 
pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even when I take 
it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?


  Sent from my iPad

  Thank You,
  Alan Di Somma
  Phoenix, AZ.

  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.




  > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
  >
  > I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not tried the 
Vee?  thread.
  > Tony
  > 
  > On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
  >
  > Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
  > To: "VFB List" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
  > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
  >
  > I also
  > should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still
  > stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
  >
  >
  > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
  >
  >  "Any man who thinks he can be
  > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
  > him; better take a closer look at the American
  > Indian."
  > Henry
  > Ford
  >
  >
  > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
  > Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net>
  > wrote:
  > When I fished the San Juan
  > River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
  > tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it
  > better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
  > easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
  >
  >
  > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
  >
  >  "Any man who thinks he can be
  > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
  > him; better take a closer look at the American
  > Indian."
  > Henry
  > Ford
  >
  >
  > On Apr 3, 2017, at
  > 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) <n.runars...@gmail.com>
  > wrote:
  > I
  > started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
  > than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
  > thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a little spool. That
  > was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
  > video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you
  > were just moving your hand around it.  ;o)
  > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at
  > 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
  > wrote:
  > I tyed
  > mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any
  > more. It was a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once
  > had. This hook is real small, it will fit in the gape of the
  > sx 32 you might find today.
  >
  > -- --
  >
  > On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  >
  >
  >  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the
  > making

[VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[DonO]

Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up to it.  3 -naked eye #32 
RCs.




Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it today.  Should post next week. 
Technically difficult to film.

Cheers,
DonO

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Re: [VFB] TEST of gmail SWAP UPDATE

[DonO]

Peggy, Did you make the photo album to post o the VFB? 
You mentioned you were gong to do one.

DonO

From: Peggy Brenner 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:51 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; Peggy Brenner 
Subject: [VFB] TEST of gmail SWAP UPDATE

I'm getting the swaps ready to go, but I've realized when I start a thread with 
gmail I can't see it when it is posted to the list.


So I'm getting things ready as we are getting snowed in again.


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Re: [VFB] New Zealand

[DonO]

Reuven,

Imagining a num-wombat-cat fly hybrid fly.

DonO

-Original Message- 
From: Reuven Segal

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:04 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

Well.look up MARSUPIAL, and imagine a fly made from 3 different sources.

An Aussie version of the TRIPOLAR.


On 15/03/2017 4:36 PM, DonO wrote:

What's a TriSupial?   Nothing from search.
If a fish eats it, I'll tie one.

And penguins die naturally by the 1000's every year.

Emperor Penguin gets a triple mantle mount.

DonO

-Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:52 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

When are you due to tie up a TriSupial fly. Easier to get that the
penguin. I can sort out various marsupial furs for perhaps a smaller
desk mount??  ;)

This penguin hunt is going to be the death of me!


On 15/03/2017 12:44 PM, DonO wrote:

How to cook a Roo.  Start with a nice roux.

-Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

Actually funny this topic should have come up yesterday. This is an
article about it today!

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3930139/kangaroos-kicking-up-controversy/


On 15/03/2017 1:30 AM, J Balmer wrote:

Did a sunrise balloon trip in the outback, saw the only wild kangaroo
then. Wallaby were everywhere, but only the one kanga:)

J

On Tue, March 14, 2017 1:41 am, Reuven Segal wrote:

Melbourne really is a lovely city. The people here are a lot like
Bostonians (?).


You can take a balloon ride over the city. See them a lot when I travel
out early. Fishing is not as good as New Zealand but is very 
challenging

too. Shame we didn't get to meet. Until next time.


On 14/03/2017 5:21 AM, J Balmer wrote:

I'll let you know when we come back, but we'll probably spend more 
time

in New Zealand. Rob was awesome, we had over 2" of rain the day before
we went out, so the rivers were out. We went to a lake about the same
distance from Rotorua that was spring & creek fed & we found great
numbers of trout. Penguins were awesome, some passed right beneath my
feet:)
Liked Melbourne, but we were there less than 48 hours & there's a lot 
we

  didn't get to see & experience. On the list for the next time
through:)


J


On Mon, February 20, 2017 1:17 am, Reuven Segal wrote:


Next trip then. Would have loved to catch up but remember that this
is just a scouting trip. We have fishing to do.

How was the penguin parade? Did they perform on cue??



What did you think of Melbourne?






On 20/02/2017 3:29 PM, J Balmer wrote:



In Alice Springs now, left Melbourne this AM, we were there less
than 48
hours. Had issues w/ email right before we left & didn't have your
info w/ me.

J



On Sun, February 19, 2017 5:08 pm, Reuven Segal wrote:



Very sorry. Just saw this message and didnt realise you were
already in town. Are you still here? Would love to catch you if
you are.

My number is 0430516576 if you get a chance.




Reuven





On 18/02/2017 8:56 AM, J Balmer wrote:




We arrive @ the airport around 9:00 tonight, no customs so it
shouldn't take long to get to the hotel if you're still up for a
  beverage or two.



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Re: [VFB] New Zealand

[DonO]

What's a TriSupial?   Nothing from search.
If a fish eats it, I'll tie one.

And penguins die naturally by the 1000's every year.

Emperor Penguin gets a triple mantle mount.

DonO

-Original Message- 
From: Reuven Segal

Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:52 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

When are you due to tie up a TriSupial fly. Easier to get that the
penguin. I can sort out various marsupial furs for perhaps a smaller
desk mount??  ;)

This penguin hunt is going to be the death of me!


On 15/03/2017 12:44 PM, DonO wrote:

How to cook a Roo.  Start with a nice roux.

-Original Message- From: Reuven Segal
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

Actually funny this topic should have come up yesterday. This is an
article about it today!

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3930139/kangaroos-kicking-up-controversy/


On 15/03/2017 1:30 AM, J Balmer wrote:

Did a sunrise balloon trip in the outback, saw the only wild kangaroo
then. Wallaby were everywhere, but only the one kanga:)

J

On Tue, March 14, 2017 1:41 am, Reuven Segal wrote:

Melbourne really is a lovely city. The people here are a lot like
Bostonians (?).


You can take a balloon ride over the city. See them a lot when I travel
out early. Fishing is not as good as New Zealand but is very challenging
too. Shame we didn't get to meet. Until next time.


On 14/03/2017 5:21 AM, J Balmer wrote:


I'll let you know when we come back, but we'll probably spend more time
in New Zealand. Rob was awesome, we had over 2" of rain the day before
we went out, so the rivers were out. We went to a lake about the same
distance from Rotorua that was spring & creek fed & we found great
numbers of trout. Penguins were awesome, some passed right beneath my
feet:)
Liked Melbourne, but we were there less than 48 hours & there's a lot 
we

  didn't get to see & experience. On the list for the next time
through:)


J


On Mon, February 20, 2017 1:17 am, Reuven Segal wrote:


Next trip then. Would have loved to catch up but remember that this
is just a scouting trip. We have fishing to do.

How was the penguin parade? Did they perform on cue??



What did you think of Melbourne?






On 20/02/2017 3:29 PM, J Balmer wrote:



In Alice Springs now, left Melbourne this AM, we were there less
than 48
hours. Had issues w/ email right before we left & didn't have your
info w/ me.

J



On Sun, February 19, 2017 5:08 pm, Reuven Segal wrote:



Very sorry. Just saw this message and didnt realise you were
already in town. Are you still here? Would love to catch you if
you are.

My number is 0430516576 if you get a chance.




Reuven





On 18/02/2017 8:56 AM, J Balmer wrote:




We arrive @ the airport around 9:00 tonight, no customs so it
shouldn't take long to get to the hotel if you're still up for a
  beverage or two.



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Re: [VFB] New Zealand

[DonO]

No emperor penguins I gather

Prob. those little Rock-hopper or Adele's.  Too small, But I'll take a pelt 
if you can get one to me.


DonO

-Original Message- 
From: J Balmer

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 12:21 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Zealand

I'll let you know when we come back, but we'll probably spend more time in
New Zealand. Rob was awesome, we had over 2" of rain the day before we
went out, so the rivers were out. We went to a lake about the same
distance from Rotorua that was spring & creek fed & we found great numbers
of trout.
Penguins were awesome, some passed right beneath my feet:)
Liked Melbourne, but we were there less than 48 hours & there's a lot we
didn't get to see & experience. On the list for the next time through:)

J

On Mon, February 20, 2017 1:17 am, Reuven Segal wrote:

Next trip then. Would have loved to catch up but remember that this is
just a scouting trip. We have fishing to do.

How was the penguin parade? Did they perform on cue??


What did you think of Melbourne?





On 20/02/2017 3:29 PM, J Balmer wrote:


In Alice Springs now, left Melbourne this AM, we were there less than
48
hours. Had issues w/ email right before we left & didn't have your info
w/ me.

J


On Sun, February 19, 2017 5:08 pm, Reuven Segal wrote:


Very sorry. Just saw this message and didnt realise you were already
in town. Are you still here? Would love to catch you if you are.

My number is 0430516576 if you get a chance.



Reuven




On 18/02/2017 8:56 AM, J Balmer wrote:



We arrive @ the airport around 9:00 tonight, no customs so it
shouldn't take long to get to the hotel if you're still up for a
beverage or two.



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Re: [VFB] Wing Things 2.0 Tips, streamer tips

[DonO]

Rene,

Glad for your ‘stability’ then. ;o)

Good question on the dye color bleed, as you can see the feather colors on my 
blotters.  Whiting’s feathers are color-fast, so I don’t worry about them.  The 
old Chinese necks are not.  Since it takes very hot water to SET dyes, I 
haven’t seen any cross-over from the Chinese to the Whiting hackles.  Even if 
it did, the blend wouldn’t take away anything, since the layered colors are 
intended to blend for the final appeal. 

What does happen is that all shape outlines, curves, etc. are trained to match 
so that the contour of the fly is common and in the shape I want.  So round-tip 
hackles match sharp-tipped hackles.  Shorter layered hackles are more apt to 
stay where I want them. Barred underneath hackles show up better, as the 
‘marry’ gets tighter.

When I want a more dispersed outline for the artistic ‘paint-brushed look’, I 
brush out the wing with an old tooth-brush so that the feathers separate more, 
giving a ‘free-style’ effect. 

Again, this is for tying presentation flies – mine I’ll present in plastic 
foam-backed boxes. 

For commercial streamer-flies by the dozen, it would add to the professional 
presentation to have the hackle curves neatly match. And it’s pretty quick to 
do, and you can re-use the paper towel blotter. Makes a nice photo back-ground.

Fishing a streamer is as much presentation as anything else.  Hence the spey 
rod approach.  Watch the streamer as it ‘swims’ past you. Now you’re seeing 
what the fish sees.  Does the weight of the hook drop it down below the wing? 
Does it swim tilted? Is the head a lot larger than the wing, not fitting the 
contour? All of this can be addressed when tying the fly.   On many I tie the 
two inside hackles with longer brighter hackles so there’s a ‘tail’ out the 
back, and it usually wiggles during the retrieve.

One extra thing is weight.  Streamers are hammered when bit so weight is not an 
issue with the fly itself. There’s no ‘feeling-out’ like with a heavily 
weighted nymph. Lead wrap at the front end of the shank helps the fly dive into 
the pools and deep runs.  And I tie many of my fishing streamers as articulated 
tandems, using the braid over the connection leader to create the long body.  
I’ll also use circle hooks for the rear hook, and sometime cut off the front 
hook altogether.

I’m hoping to have lots of how-to and tying tips on my web site as it develops. 
 

DonO  

From: Rene Zillmann 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:26 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Wing Things 2.0 Tips

Hi Don,

It is indeed a very interesting and challenging project, but I cannot talk in 
public about it. However, as I'm just a regular employee, it neither increases 
nor decreases my pay-check. It just ensures that it is paid.

Thanks for putting it all together, was a nice and recreational hour to read 
carefully through it.

Your trick with the hot water is something I'd like to try, however this will 
be later. If you treat the finished fly with the hot water: What is your 
experience regarding the durability of the paint? Is there a risk that some of 
the dye will add color to additional feathers?

Rene










On 03/05/2017 06:20 PM, DonO wrote:

  Rene,

  I hope it’s a good job that keeps you on the go. Lots of .

  I don’t use the Wing Things to attach the wings to the hook, although I 
actually could if needed.

  Easiest thing is to list the things I do with them, which will all be in the 
Wing Things 2.0 extension of the article.  And I’ll probably do a You-tube 
video.  I’ll try to list them in order. (I’ll be using this as the outline for 
Ver 2.0 Wing Things on my website with lots more photos.)

  1.  Group bulk feathers left and right*, (off of one cape) trimmed and set to 
length, size, color, webbieness, etc.  So if I want big presentation streamers 
I group all the big feathers at the back of the cape, trim the downy butt ends 
and insert as many will fit in the wing thing.  I have bigger straws to 
accommodate large groups of thick feathers. For smaller fishing flies, I start 
in the middle of the cape.

  Depending on whether I’m tying a bunch or similar patterns for a swap or 
designing individual flies, this grouping of large quantities of L/R hackles is 
useful. Sometimes I use the tubes, and sometimes I have extras stored in small 
plastic pockets, especially when I’m designing.  (Photos in WT 2.0) 

  *2. I have many necks that dried ‘weird’ and don’t have equal rights and 
lefts (especially old Chinese capes). Also, the modern drying techniques for 
bagging actually set a reverse curve (or even a twist) in the feathers from the 
natural, so what you think is a left is actually a right.  The vendor hot dying 
& drying process re-sets the curves, so another hot water bath will reset the 
curves the way you want them- regardless of L/R bends, in a Wing Thing. So set 
an equal number of L/R feathers in the Wing Thing (ignore curves & twists) 

[VFB] Wing Things 2.0 Tips

[DonO]

so.

I would estimate that commercial tying time could be cut in half using the Wing 
Things and an assembly line process.  For show-fly designing, time is not a 
factor, just efficiency and tying space.  I always keep everything handy, 
though.  A commercial tier could do it both ways and compare the time for like 
a 100 flies.  Don’t count the time to build the pin-holders, since you will 
re-use them over and over.  Commercial tying may be one instance where the Wing 
Things could be used to tie the wings as a group to the hooks.

7. Often I have a completed fly with wing in the vise except for the cheeks.  
Nothing I have pre-tied works for me. So I spread out all of the different 
cheek feather choicess and go to work with a wing thing pushed over the head of 
the hook.  This is where the split on the Wing Thing is also helpful.  The WT 
slides on enough to cover the start of the wing (or cut deeper), so I have a 
little opening on each side to slide in a mix and match cheek with JC eyes or 
spears to ‘take a look’- without tying them down.  If I like, but want to 
experiment, I’ll take a photo to save the design.  Than I can try something a 
little different or totally different, depending on how the wing looks. Once I 
Ihave what I want, I remove the WT and tie the cheeks down carefully.

Once I’m done tying, I take my sharp-tip reverse tweezers and drage the whole 
fly though hot water.  This trains the wing, cheek, and belly hairs into a 
minnow shape and relaxes any ‘wild hairs’. Once dry, I carefully comb out to 
shape and photo for records.

I leave all of my finished flies on a styrofoam block next to my bench, so I 
can design new flys based on the features I like best on previous flies. My 
designs evolve over time, but a new set of feathers, cheeks, etc. re-starts the 
process.  A new theme, like birds or Matlache Island colors, etc. re-starts the 
process.

There’s a lot here verbally, but a video would show it short and sweet.  To 
start, I will continue the article and add more photos of each of these steps.

I’ve had both hobby-tiers and commercial tiers thank me for this simple and 
CHEAP tying technique. You can get straws from any gas station coffee stand, or 
buy round coffee stirrers by the carton.

My next thing is to learn framing and fly mounting in order to create themed 
streamer-fly plates.  

Hope this helps.  If anything is unclear, fire away and I will answer and 
upgrade Wing Things 2.0.

DonO



From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:15 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: AW: [VFB] RE-POST: New FOTD Matlacha Island Theme Streamers- Finals

Hi Don,




thanks. Sorry, I'm late answering, but my current project asks for a lot of 
travel and I seldom sit at my PC.

For the Wing-Thing: I do not see how you use them to attach the wings. Or are 
you using them for the design phase only?



Streamer are really a thing with 2 faces, large fish and a great option, just 
to make nice and decorative items.



Warm regards

Rene











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[VFB] RE-POST: New FOTD Matlacha Island Theme Streamers- Finals

[DonO]

Hopefully got rid of the album photo format.


Renee,

I’ve named this streamer ‘Matlacha Rainbow’.  ;o)



Wing: (10)
2 Fl. Green Barred. 2 Fl. Orange, 2 Fl. Pink,
Plus 2 shorter Purple barred & 2 Fl. blue

Cheeks: (8)
2 Peacock neck fans each side (4), 
2 green peacock body fans,
2 Jungle cock body spears
= 18 feathers, and all the colors play in.

Body: Silver braid, colored with yellow, pink, and blue hiliters.

The belly fibers are buck-tail- yellow, orange, pink, and dark pink.

Tip 1:
It really helps to use ‘Wing Things’ to build the wings and cheeks. Getting 10 
wing feathers to marry closely is very hard if tying them right on the hook one 
at a time.  So I mate them first in a Wing Thing-  
(http://www.fantasyflies.com/streamers.php).  (Also find it on Darren’s 
Streamers 365)
Same with the cheeks, I experimented for a while with many cheek-feather 
combinations in Wing Things to come up with a good complimentary cheek, 
over-laying each design over the wing to test it. I may take one cheek set-up 
and overlay it over 10 different wing-sets to see how it looks on different 
color schemes.

Tip 2: Experiment with the right side of the wing and cheek first, then when 
you get a combo you like, build the left side to match.  Less feathers to 
handle while designing. 

Glad you enjoyed.

I have Wing Things, ver. 2.0 coming soon- an expansion of the technique.  Lots 
more follow-up tips on wing control using the Wing Thing method.

Cheers,
DonO


From: Rene Zillmann 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 2:40 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] New FOTD Matlacha Island Theme Streamers- Finals

Hi DonO,

nice ones. 18 feathers, great. What feathers are these?

And glad, that you were not affected from the snow loads and wash outs.

Rene




On 03/01/2017 07:20 PM, DonO wrote:

  Finished the last two streamers before I store everything away.

  The colors on this one hit the Matlacha theme well:
  (It has 18 feathers and 3 colors of belly fibers)


  If anyone wants the recipe, just let me know.

  This one really catches the eye.


  Starting to get warm enough to go fishing.  Who-hoo!
  Worst winter here since the mid-80’s.  
  Lots of collapsed roofs from snow-loads and recently a lot of flooding and 
road wash-outs.

  DonO



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[VFB] Fw: Maybe.......just maybe

[DonO]

The intelligence is questionable, but here’s my answer on photo inserting vs 
album attaching:


Yeah, I think I have it figured out now.  Noticed it in my own email post.

Use RICH text format.  That will free up the next part, at least in Windows 7. 

Each time, use the INSERT/SINGLE PHOTO command and have your curser where you 
want the photo.  I will print large, so just drag it down to size:



It does not work to cut/paste from the file, or file dragging, at least on my 
pc.

Also, I copy/pasted from the photo in the original email to a new spot and it 
turned itself into an attachment, something I didn’t notice until after I 
posted the mail.  I did get a notice that not all photos would show up, so it 
must have been referencing the C/P.  But then all 3 photos showed up in an 
album, automatically by Windows.



Summary:  Use only Rich text & Insert/Single Photo when you want a photo in the 
text.



Put the curser next to the photo at the right bottom to insert two photos on a 
row.  If it is bigger than the spot, it will insert into the line below.  OK.   
Drag reduce the size and it will pop up in the row when it gets small enough to 
be there.

Don’t move photos around after inserting them.  I think the email loses the 
insert link and creates the album.

Hope this helps. I don’t know if it’s the same in all software and versions.

I’d like to learn if the photo is re-sizable when you open up the email on your 
ends with your programs.  If you click on the photo, it should box out and show 
drag points on corners and midpoints. Drag to enlarge to see finer details.  

DonO



-Original Message- 
From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 10:47 AM 
To: Alan DiSomma 
Cc: Don Ordes 
Subject: Maybe...just maybe 

Alan,

DonO posted some pictures.  But they were not attachments.  They were in 
his e-mail.

Maybe.just maybe if you start an e-mail, copy your pictures, 
paste them in the body, and then finish the e-mail, they might come 
through.  Give it a whirl.

And if it doesn't work, contact DonO and ask him how he did on his first 
two streamer e-mails and what did he do differently the third time.  
Notice he failed the last time, we just got a reference to his Olympus 
picture.


Don,  any intelligence you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Al

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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap Update Feburary 1, 2017

[DonO]

My streamers and dry flies are in the boxes ready to go down to the post office.
Hope ya’ll like.
DonO





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From: J Balmer 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:58 PM 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap Update Feburary 1, 2017 

My Almost Dun spinners went out w/ toe tags, my Screamer streamers are
going out tomorrow sans toe tags due to poor time management & computer
issues. Pattern is fire orange thread, tail is fire orange marabou w/ two
gold tinsel strips, body is Rusty Brown Ice Dub, gills are ginger hackle,
lateral "fins" are Badger Orange hackle. Oh yeah, 6-7 turns of .03 lead
wire.

J

On Wed, February 1, 2017 5:06 pm, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> to vfb-mail Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice,
> flies due February 15, 2017
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> Send to  266 N River Rd
> Milford, NH 03055
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> 2  Don Ordes- assorted large streamers
> 3  Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 4  Jack Harford
> 5  Michael Bliss-Micky Finn - ARRIVED
> 6  Bob Hendry
> 7  Rene Zillmann
> 8  J Balmer
> 9  Joyce Westphal Jack Gartside softhackle-ARRIVED
> 10 Allan fish
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Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope 14/0 Scud

[DonO]

Was he trying to compensate??  Funny story.  My wife doesn’t have a problem 
with my fly room. She just refuses to clean  up behind me. 

I could tie a giant garfish fly stuck in the mouth of a 5’ long Flex-o Garfish.

Kinda’ like my bass-eating-a-frog fly.



Did he see my Biggie-Bonito Fly?



DonO

From: Reuven Segal 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 2:07 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope 14/0 Scud

Why, oh why, does that not surprise me??

I met someone up the coast a few weeks back talking about the size of his 
'giant' flies. I pulled out my phone and brought up your website. He could only 
say WTF!! He was a jolly (and surely inebriated Scotsman who told me that he 
had so much fly tying gear taking up the house that his wife said it was either 
the gear or her, so he took it out to the street and dumped it for someone 
needy to put it to good use. Says he still misses her sometimes. Not sure if he 
was joking or not! His second wife is more into fishing than he is.


You need to do a giant garfish fly for a challenge. 

R


On 9/02/2017 7:15 AM, DonO wrote:

  Reuven, I did just that years ago.  Wish I had a photo of it.

  Tied a 14/0 (6” hook) scud and made the shell case out of 3/4” clear tube 
split down one side and then tapered.  Used 200 mono for the overwrap to create 
the segments.  Really came out good.  I gave it to Pacres.  Told him to pull it 
out of his bag when they got to the ‘big hole’ on the river and hand it to the 
client and say “Here... put this on- there’s big’uns in here.”

  Need to do another pink jelly-rope scud like that.  

  DonO  

  From: Reuven Segal 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:16 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope

  Judging by the size of some of your flies, DonO, you could probably use a 
3/4'' silicon tube.




  On 7/02/2017 1:13 PM, DonO wrote:

VFBers,
I’m having trouble finding jelly rope in clear. Does anyone have any spare 
to sell or know of where I can find some?
Thanks,
DonO
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Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope 14/0 Scud

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Reuven, I did just that years ago.  Wish I had a photo of it.

Tied a 14/0 (6” hook) scud and made the shell case out of 3/4” clear tube split 
down one side and then tapered.  Used 200 mono for the overwrap to create the 
segments.  Really came out good.  I gave it to Pacres.  Told him to pull it out 
of his bag when they got to the ‘big hole’ on the river and hand it to the 
client and say “Here... put this on- there’s big’uns in here.”

Need to do another pink jelly-rope scud like that.  

DonO  

From: Reuven Segal 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope

Judging by the size of some of your flies, DonO, you could probably use a 3/4'' 
silicon tube.




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  I’m having trouble finding jelly rope in clear. Does anyone have any spare to 
sell or know of where I can find some?
  Thanks,
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Re: [VFB] Jelly Rope

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Wes, I think that’s the stuff. I’ll check out the Hobby stores here to see if 
anyone carries it.

Thanks,
DonO

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  VFBers,
  I’m having trouble finding jelly rope in clear. Does anyone have any spare to 
sell or know of where I can find some?
  Thanks,
  DonO

Hello DonO,

JoAnns has a product I like called Darice Stretchy Cord.  On occasion they also 
have Darice Jelly Rope.

http://www.joann.com/search?q=Darice+stretchy+cord=Go


Hope that helps.

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[VFB] Jelly Rope

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Re: [VFB] Test messdage- bugs

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Mike,

Just don’t take the cayenne capsules on an empty stomach, especially with 
something like hot coffee.  From experience.  Always eat them during a meal.

Just made a pot of beef chili with garden veggies (lots of cayenne peppers & 
tomatoes) and stew meat, beans, etc.  Yummie.

DonO

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I think I will give this a try.  I like hot foods so right up my alley.  Thanks

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:25 AM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

  Hi Mike,

  I’m not an herbal cure pusher by any means, but I do know this from personal 
experience.  I used to get bugs whenever they came around.  Totally separate 
and un-connected, I taught myself how to cook Cajun dishes and Indian curry 
decades ago.  I liked them really hot, so I indulged my self to the point of 
sweating when I ate. (I thought I killed Gerry Goldsmith in a restaurant one 
time when he tiny-taste-tested mine) Curious things happened after I started 
with the hot food on a consistent basis. I ceased getting sick from bugs, even 
though everyone around me was sick from days to weeks and lingering on.  This 
was before the internet, so I wasn’t able to go ‘on line’ for information. 

  People told me at that time that Mexican people don’t get many bugs or 
stomach ailments because of the hot peppers they eat.  So I put two and two 
together and decided to test it.  When my kids came home from school with a 
bug, I fixed them up a batch of ‘fire-cracker shrimp’, so cayenne pepper-hot it 
made them sweat.  They’d take a hot shower afterwards and go to bed and bundle 
up.  When they woke up in the morning, bug gone and they felt great. They ate 
medium warm stuff all the time, so the extra pepper didn’t wreak havoc on their 
systems.

  I’ve found that it kills other viruses also, so I take 3 cayenne capsules a 
day in addition to the hot food.  Used to get ear infections all the time & 
went on anti-biotics, and screwed my digestion system up for months. Now I 
never get them. Flus go around constantly & I never get sick- haven’t lost a 
work-day to bugs in over 30 years. Have never gotten a vaccine. Never worry 
about mosquito-born bugs. As soon as the ‘hit’ me, they incinerate with a 
little puff of smoke.  My body is hostile territory for invaders- I have my own 
version of ‘The Wall’.

  Just FYI.  Food & spice as medicine- what a concept.  

  The cayenne also thins my blood and helps fight high blood pressure, kinda 
like acidizing the pipes.  My BP last night was 118/77, not too bad for 65.  
And I eat too much salt and way too many meat fats.  I’m still fighting high 
blood sugar, but working on different aspects to help out.  Hope to keep off 
insulin and cayenne is beneficial.  Google it up if you want.  Not my first 
priority, but an added benefit and part of why I take 3 capsules a day.

  It make be a short-cut to the “warmth” you need.  ;o)  If you don’t already 
eat a lot of hot foods, take it slow.  Don’t hammer your system into shock.

  DonO

  From: Michael Bliss 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:03 PM
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  I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral 
infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope all 
out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over 3 feet 
of snow in my yard.

  Mike

  On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Allan:


Well at least you are still there! I thought that I must be disconnected!


Neville


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  Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks 
must be hibernating. 

  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

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JimmyD,

Wish I did live close. Would stop by and we could tie one on.  Then you’d have 
a great reason for wobbling when you walked.  Just kidding, I’m not a drinker.  
Don’t want to give false impressions.

DonO

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Test messdage

U folks know my problems.Pinkerstons and a bunch other stuff. Jody won't let me 
drive being the worst. Can still walk, but wobbly. Wading is out, except very 
smooth bottom streams. Any rock streams are out. write, talk bette.rn, 
usual.lol,lol. get more typing time, but would would enjoy more.  seem to have 
more down time! 
than usual.Stop by. I'll be glad to talk. Tell all HI.
  -Original Message- 
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  I wish. Flu hit late last night.
  Not worth much right now.Rick




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  I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral 
infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope all 
out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over 3 feet 
of snow in my yard.

  Mike

  On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@gmail.com> 
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Well at least you are still there! I thought that I must be disconnected!


Neville


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  Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks 
must be hibernating. 

  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [VFB] Test messdage- bugs

[DonO]

Hi Mike,

I’m not an herbal cure pusher by any means, but I do know this from personal 
experience.  I used to get bugs whenever they came around.  Totally separate 
and un-connected, I taught myself how to cook Cajun dishes and Indian curry 
decades ago.  I liked them really hot, so I indulged my self to the point of 
sweating when I ate. (I thought I killed Gerry Goldsmith in a restaurant one 
time when he tiny-taste-tested mine) Curious things happened after I started 
with the hot food on a consistent basis. I ceased getting sick from bugs, even 
though everyone around me was sick from days to weeks and lingering on.  This 
was before the internet, so I wasn’t able to go ‘on line’ for information. 

People told me at that time that Mexican people don’t get many bugs or stomach 
ailments because of the hot peppers they eat.  So I put two and two together 
and decided to test it.  When my kids came home from school with a bug, I fixed 
them up a batch of ‘fire-cracker shrimp’, so cayenne pepper-hot it made them 
sweat.  They’d take a hot shower afterwards and go to bed and bundle up.  When 
they woke up in the morning, bug gone and they felt great. They ate medium warm 
stuff all the time, so the extra pepper didn’t wreak havoc on their systems.

I’ve found that it kills other viruses also, so I take 3 cayenne capsules a day 
in addition to the hot food.  Used to get ear infections all the time & went on 
anti-biotics, and screwed my digestion system up for months. Now I never get 
them. Flus go around constantly & I never get sick- haven’t lost a work-day to 
bugs in over 30 years. Have never gotten a vaccine. Never worry about 
mosquito-born bugs. As soon as the ‘hit’ me, they incinerate with a little puff 
of smoke.  My body is hostile territory for invaders- I have my own version of 
‘The Wall’.

Just FYI.  Food & spice as medicine- what a concept.  

The cayenne also thins my blood and helps fight high blood pressure, kinda like 
acidizing the pipes.  My BP last night was 118/77, not too bad for 65.  And I 
eat too much salt and way too many meat fats.  I’m still fighting high blood 
sugar, but working on different aspects to help out.  Hope to keep off insulin 
and cayenne is beneficial.  Google it up if you want.  Not my first priority, 
but an added benefit and part of why I take 3 capsules a day.

It make be a short-cut to the “warmth” you need.  ;o)  If you don’t already eat 
a lot of hot foods, take it slow.  Don’t hammer your system into shock.

DonO

From: Michael Bliss 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:03 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Test messdage

I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral 
infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope all 
out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over 3 feet 
of snow in my yard.

Mike

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi Allan:


  Well at least you are still there! I thought that I must be disconnected!


  Neville


  On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks must 
be hibernating. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?

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Pete, I had a Hank Roberts ‘Domino Nymph’ years ago, looked like the 
black-topped white-bottomed flies you see here, but without any hackles.  
Worked great in small Wyoming creeks.
I had the weave down at one time, but that was decades ago, would have to start 
over. I tied them with a tapered lead wire front thorax underbody that I 
squashed with a needle-nose, then wove over it. Not sure if that was what Hand 
did, but the fly looked right and sank well in holes.
This may be what he was using, with or without the hackles.  Don




From: Pete Gramp 
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 3:38 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?

Anyone ever hear of a pattern called a "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy"? 

Passed by my local pond and saw another fly fisher there (rare) just reeling 
them in (very rare), hand over foot, thankfully catch and releasing or I'd need 
to find myself a new local pond to fish - he was catching that many - but when 
I stopped by to ask what he was using, he gave a sly grin and said an older 
pattern called the "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy".  I shouldn't be as 
surprised as I am, but seeing as it was a fellow who looked fresh out of 
puberty, pimples and all, I was a bit surprised he was using an older pattern.  
He never did let me get a look at the fly, so I'm on a "quest" of sorts, to 
find a pattern recipe and example photo to get an idea of what the end product 
should look like and how to tie it.

Thanks, gang, any help is appreciated!
-Pete
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap

[DonO]

Peggy,

Is a parachute hackle considered a classic?  Or does it need to be palmered?

I’m doing a light tan mayfly.  Have classics tied, but may add a parachute and 
a delta-wing as a triple-threat.  One toe-tag with 3 flies ea. if I can get it 
all done.

Don

From: Peggy Brenner 
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Subject: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap

Let's do Classic Dry Flies, tyers choice of pattern.  I'm limiting to 10 
participants with flies due February 15, 2017




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Re: [VFB] 'Nuculur' Grayling

[DonO]

JimmyD,

Got this post but no message attached.  Are you giving us the silent 
treatment?


I feel better about the VFB now that we have another 2 swaps going on. Maybe 
more will start up soon.


Update on Fantasy Flies:
Just hired my sister-in-law (who moved here) to run the video productions 
for the flies and rope-dubbing efforts soon to come.  Once she gets the 
editing down, we'll post a rope-dub teaser video to Youtube to introduce it 
and my channel.  Down the road, we'll update the website, Face-book, 
Pinterest, whatever works.


I've been way too busy to deal with this extra work, so maybe now it can 
happen and I can get some fly projects done.


DonO


-Original Message- 
From: ray...@earthlink.net

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:42 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jimmy D. Moore
Subject: Re: [VFB] 'Nuculur' Grayling




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From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Oct 5, 2016 8:09 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] 'Nuculur' Grayling

I miss the old days too.
My tying is about done, I am not able to do shows anymore due to health 
issues. I have one this weekend that I will have to pass up. Seems most of 
the lists have dried up. Most seem to be on Facebook.

This is also true on the Rodmakers lists I am on.
Tony

On Wed, 10/5/16, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

Subject: [VFB] 'Nuculur' Grayling
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 8:00 PM







After my PC cash and month-long effort to restore
everything, I came across
this old photo of Nick holding his
giant graying that I ‘nuculurized’ with photo
shop.  Brought back
memories of old VFB days.  Been off-line for a bit.

This photo from Nick was bright, so I darkened it to
make the glow against
him stand out more.  DonO






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been long off VFB google group along with regular vfb.

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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap is closed 10/21

[DonO]

Peggy,
I’m just going to tie up different custom streamer flies like I submitted to 
Streamers 365.  
Is that OK?  Some of them did real well at auction for Darren’s charities. 
DonO


From: Peggy Brenner 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 7:49 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Streamer Swap is closed 10/21

I'll do a new update next week, I'm off to baking school for the weekend, a lot 
of pizza making!

Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due 
February 15, 2017


1. Peggy Brenner Yellow Jane Craig

2  Don Ordes- assorted large streamers

3  Wayne Blake-Hedges

4  Jack Harford

5  Michael Bliss

6  Bob Hendry

7  Rene Zillmann

8  J Balmer

9  Joyce Westphal Jack Gartside softhackle

10 Allan fish 


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Re: [VFB] Classic Dry flies 10/19 update IMPORTANT

[DonO]

It dozen matter to me either, even.

DonO

From: 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Classic Dry flies 10/19 update IMPORTANT

12 is fine with me. 

Wayneb


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  I have 12 members who wnat to be in the Dry fly swap, is 12 ok with everyone 
in the swap and we call it closed!

  Let's do Classic Dry Flies, tyers choice of pattern.  I'm limiting to 10 
participants with flies due February 15, 2017


  1. Peggy Brenner

  2  Martin Westbeek
  3  Tony Spezio

  4 Don Ordes

  5  Mike Bliss

  6  Pete Gramp 

  7  Wayne Blake-Hedges  Hendrickson dry

  8J Balmer

  9  Rick Zieger

  10  Jack Harford 

  11 Bob Hendry

  Rene Zillmann



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