[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread Kent Nichols
Great, but again, mefeedia does not recognize m4v extension.  I've
gotten a lot of traffic from podguide.tv, which is a directory for
iPod video casts.

-Kent

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mefeedia also seems to be the most widely-referring vlog directory -
it's
> well up in my list of referrers every day - I usually get more
> viewers/visitors from Mefeedia than iTunes.
> 
> 
> On 11/22/05, petertheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The mefeedia directory at http://mefeedia.com/feeds/ is a much better
> > source to find good videobloggers - there are over 1200 videobloggers
> > listed there. I think there are probably at least 500 out there that
> > are not in Mefeedia yet.
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Deirdre Straughan



The right person to interview them is Halcyon. I'll see if I can get in
touch with them, but not right away - I've been out sick for a week and
need to get back to that stuff they pay me to do.On 11/21/05, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I want to see a videoblog interviewReporting live from Viale Abruzzi 83 20131 Milano (MI) ...
On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:> LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go> beat them up for you?>>> domain:  
videospider.it> org: BERBERA & HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc--Steve--Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog  - 
http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread Deirdre Straughan



Mefeedia also seems to be the most widely-referring vlog directory -
it's well up in my list of referrers every day - I usually get more
viewers/visitors from Mefeedia than iTunes.
On 11/22/05, petertheman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The mefeedia directory at http://mefeedia.com/feeds/ is a much bettersource to find good videobloggers - there are over 1200 videobloggerslisted there. I think there are probably at least 500 out there that
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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread jonny goldstein
Bev and Gena, I encourage you to keep this discussion on the list, as
I'm sure a lot of us can learn from it. All this format stuff is
confusing to me too. 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Bev,
> 
> I would like to say a bunch of stuff but I'm in a computer lab 
> waiting for my class to start.
> 
> There are times when it does get a little thick around here. Certain 
> discussions I actually stay out of because I sense the topic isn't 
> about vlogging per say but chest beating. Since I have stuff on my 
> chest I try not to do that too often. ;-)
> 
> The file format situation is a fustration with me too, having to 
> create in multiple video formats. I don't always have time or the 
> energy to do it the way I want it done. But the reality is that there 
> are a majority of windows users but many vloggers us Macs and 
> Quicktime.
> 
> God helps when the Linux folks show up at the door.
> 
> Anyway I just wanted to say I hear you and that I'd like to follow up 
> later after I get home. Please feel free to e-mail me and lets see 
> what we can come up with.
> 
> Gena
> ***
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so 
> far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve 
> become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response 
> at all.
> > 
> > But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format.  
> I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told 
> that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime.  
> Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods 
> and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that 
> they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube 
> uses flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with 
> creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be 
> seen.  Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it 
> into two flash formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my 
> windows media viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I 
> have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own 
> videos can be seen by some, not by all.
> > 
> > For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to 
> watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the 
> best way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic 
> about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's 
> flash.  My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did 
> in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his 
> computer.
> > 
> > I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried 
> everything and nothing works consistently.
> > 
> > I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting 
> anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god 
> have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come 
> up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't 
> view your videos."
> > 
> > -- 
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> > Blog:  http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/
> > Journal:  http://funnytheworld.com
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[videoblogging] Re: Squeeze Remix Video Game Vlog Feed

2005-11-21 Thread contactmica
typical, a typo!
the squeeze blog is here:

http://publicaddress.typepad.com/squeeze


sorry!
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[videoblogging] Squeeze Remix Video Game Vlog Feed

2005-11-21 Thread contactmica
Hello fellow vloggers, colaborators, experimenters, artists, comrades
etc..

I have created a new feed for the Squeeze project.

you can subscribe with this link:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/squeezevideo

What is the Squeeze project?
Well, it all began about a year ago, when I made this post
http://publicaddress.typepad.com/hello/2004/12/counting.html

then my friend Charlene made a remix of it and then I made a remix of
her video and so on and so forth.

you can see a video of me explaining it at last years vlogger con here:

http://publicaddress.typepad.com/mica_vcon.mov

I have now archived all of the existing Squeeze videos 
and I invite you to join in and make your own. 

I will add them to the cue. A new remix appears each and every Monday
until the video implodes on itself or twirls into infinity. 

I even made it its very own blog:

http://publicaddress.typepad.com/squeeeze


So, watch, enjoy, remix, play, vlog..

Thanks!
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[videoblogging] Re: [SF Bay Node 101] Expression mash-up

2005-11-21 Thread Enric



Yes, this method of creating/consuming media in the presenting of videoblogging worked very well.  I think such methods should be incorporated as possible in future MTV (Meet The Vloggers) presenations.  I had a very short presentation on blogging at the S.F. Indie Club  meeting on 11/19/05.  I blogged about my attempt in the presentation to remove the seperation between speaker and audience at my new blog site:  http://cohere.cirne.com .   ,   Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Great job!  You're really getting great at making posts!> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Digital" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> >> > Schlomo, Markus, and Dave Toole put together a really cool event> > yesterday at _expression_ College of Digital Arts in Emeryville, CA.> > > > J.D. Lasica (Ourmedia.org) was there, as was Chris Rikte > (49media.com)> > and Mia Garlick (creativecommons.org)> > > > Markus has a great preview vlog here: > > > > http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/_expression_.html> > > > You can review the results of my (tardy) work here:> > > > http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/hobbling-through-to-> finish-line.html> > > > Speedvlogging?! pfft. I'm not built for it!! > > > > Seriously, what Enric and Markus could do in such a short time is> > beyond me right now. Hopefully I will get some practice and try > this> > again soon ...> > > > Ted Tagami> > > > tagami.com> > > > UNIVERSUS &> > makemedia.org> >>


  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread Ronen



Given our medium and passions, it's a shame that -- if we at least
can't get rid of flame-wars-esque discussions -- we can't at least put
them in our chosen medium, to make them interesting and perhaps get
people involved and active (ie: content creators) by inspiring
reactions.  (ie, this is a yahoo groups debate, not an actual vlog
debate)

hm... now THAT would be interesting.

(Obviousely, I don't there's much to debate... but using it as a forum
sounds interesting... instead of 2-minute responses, 2-minute videos,
with 5 days prep... etc, etc.  Not for this debate, probably,
but food for thought)On 11/21/05, gabe_perardua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening
on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2
hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as
many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant
hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson
I have learned from this:

Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it
doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there.

I love all you vloggers. Let's just remeber that we have to look out
for eachother, and support wachother's freedom of speech, or freedom
to document. Whether that be for personal celebrity, political gain,
to pick up chicks, or just for the sake of vlogging.


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> Again, dismissive and patronizing.  What arrogance.
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> > be it. I stand behind all of these statements even as fragments. Its
> > absolutely true that the majority of the videobloggers out there,
> > including yourself, are exactly this way - using videoblogging "to
> > share my life and meet new people, to make friends". Personal
> > diaries. Its like Friendster for video and that is great, its how I
> > met most of the friends I have now.
> >
> > I still wish and anticipate and can't wait to see more applied use of
> > this medium in the world beyond making friends and showing each other
> > their naked bodies and bodily excretions.
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Re: [videoblogging] Matching music to video?

2005-11-21 Thread Ronen



..
usually one is looking for something more ...specific, both in terms of
emotion and timing, than in a guide so simple -- music can carry
multiple meanings depending on the footage.

Most of my skill in this area (and I just listen to a lot of music and
use music from memory) came from spending a long time listening to
movie scores, watching films with only the score playing, and
re-playing the same video many (many) times with different music. 
You'll quickly see how different peices of music shape the video. 
(Also try moving the same peice of music around, creating different
sync points.)

I've been developing an extended education series on the subject to put on cinemalog, and I'll drop a line here when it begins.

Ronen

(ps- some examples of background music I've used are on the site, and
so far as creds I've also edited tons of film and ghostwritten the
'film music' section of a standard university music text)

Best of luckOn 11/21/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









I have slowly come to realize that some of the 
really great vloggers have a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate 
in their vlogs to convey and underscore an emotion.
 
Does anyone know of any book or internet resource 
that doesn't just give "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or 
otherwise) to convey emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", 
etc?
 
I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to 
find it.
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread Kent Nichols
Sure and that's fine for big media and those who enjoy those shows.  But I'm 
talking about us -- the content producers on the vanguard that want to attack a 
larger audience through independant means.  If and when Tivo and other DVRs 
allow users to subscribe to mRSS, that will open up content creation on a whole 
new level.  Think of what Sex, Lies, and Videotape did for Indie film.

We're at the beginning of an indie tv movement.

-K

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> 
> > 4. The real future for all of this is being able to send our video
> material
> > not only to pocket level devices like iPods and PSPs, but when Tivos
> > themselves will reed mRSS feeds and be able to subscribe to your
> favorite
> > podcasts on your TV.
> 
> Going the opposite way, TiVo just announced it is expanding its video
> recording service so users will be able to transfer recorded TV shows
> onto iPods.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ayarl
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[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread Kent Nichols
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "petertheman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The mefeedia directory at http://mefeedia.com/feeds/ is a much better
> source to find good videobloggers - there are over 1200 videobloggers
> listed there. I think there are probably at least 500 out there that
> are not in Mefeedia yet.
> 
> Cheers,
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Great.  I'm there too, but mefeedia.com doesn't recognize .m4v, the
annointed iPod video format as a legit video yet.  So the ten videos I
have up there aren't showing up.





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Re: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.

2005-11-21 Thread daniel liss


thanks. go here:http://pouringdownpictures.com/punk.mov -daniel On Nov 21, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Ronen wrote: Interesting Stuff.  Feel better.  PS-  Where can we find the Marcy Playground video?  Ronen cinemalog.net On 11/21/05, pouringdownpix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  so, i offer this:   http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/2005/11/home-sick.html  -daniel SPONSORED LINKS   Individual   Fireant   Typepad   Use   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Send your movies to me i would love to see them

2005-11-21 Thread petertheman
I realize I was a bit harsh here. Paul, perhaps you can explain a bit
why you want to show videos on your own blog instead of linking to and
promoting the blogs of the people who created the video? 

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[videoblogging] Re: Send your movies to me i would love to see them

2005-11-21 Thread petertheman

> > Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have
tons of
> > subscribers and
> > they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with
you in
> > mind and your
> > talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I
want your
> > short and long
> > films.


Um, Paul, excuse my language, but this list does not consist of
idiots. Your message was, frankly, insulting.

People work hard on their videos, and have video blogs to show them.
This is personal media. If you want to feature *our* content on *your*
site, you better be clear about the license, your intentions and such. 

Why would someone send you a video, for free, instead of featuring it
on their own videoblog? We have RSS for distribution. 

If you want to link to videobloggers , promote them and in that way
contribute to this ecology, feel free, that's how the web works and
that would be really helpful. Perhaps you just misunderstood the
culture of videoblogging and of this list.

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[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread petertheman

> I've been reading this group for the last week or so and have been
> officially video podcasting for a about the same time.

Welcome!

> If you can establish
> yourself right now when there are less than 200 video podcasts on
Podcast
> Alley 

The mefeedia directory at http://mefeedia.com/feeds/ is a much better
source to find good videobloggers - there are over 1200 videobloggers
listed there. I think there are probably at least 500 out there that
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[videoblogging] My Passion for Personal Media

2005-11-21 Thread davetoole2006
Many of you know me but for those that don't, I wanted to introduce 
myself. As Steve Garfield says we are channels and personal media is 
a way to express yourself and convey what is important to each of us.

I love my family, friends, music, personal media, business systems,
education and helping lift peoples capabilities to a higher level, of 
course as well as other things I won't mention as you check out my 
channel.

I wanted to share some learning from an event that was delivered 
around the Power of Personal Media to a school for Digital Arts 
called Ex'pression College, grab the www.Xpressionvlog.blogspot.com 
feed or just check it out. 
The goal was to convey the power of personal media, collaboration and 
digital rights. A part of the program was influenced by our efforts 
around Node101.

The Outline;

Collect content that relates to the show.
Capture a live perfomance of Alex Woodard
Presentations on Creative Commons  Mia
Presentation on OurMedia JD
Presentation on Collaboration with SpinXpress
and Remix of clips
Live post of the first videoblogs of the event

We'll be posting on the site and making available the content for 
remix for the videoblogging community to remix if it is of interest.

I'd like to thank Markus Sandy, Schlomo Rabinowitz who helped me 
produce the event, Mia Garlick, JD Lasica, Steve Garfield, Micahel 
Verdi, Ryanne Hodson, Ted Tagami, Enriq, Chris Ritke and all the 
others that pitched in.

If you are interested in persuing this concept let me know.
I am not able to contribute as much to this conversation as I would 
like but would like to visit here and there to pass on things that I 
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Re: [videoblogging] The return of the cube

2005-11-21 Thread robert a/k/a r
If you have a minute tonight would you check and let me know how 
whether you like or not the quality of the video image in this post.

The first time around the some were not able to view it, this time I 
used h.264

http://www.24x7.com/blog/2005-11/cube-astor-place/


thanks

r



> On 11/19/05, robert a/k/a r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was walking to the east village yesterday and noticed the cube 
>> has
>> returned to Astor Place. I whipped out my cam and shot 30 seconds,
>> posted it last night after reading more in the news the details.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy, and hope it works in fireant, I haven't had time 
>> to
>> check yet.
>>
>> 
>>
>> If you shoot the cube, send me URI and I'll link in post update.
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> r
>>
>> --
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>> Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively
>>
>>
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Re: [videoblogging] Send your movies to me i would love to see them

2005-11-21 Thread Adam Quirk



Is this tongue-in-cheek?You realize that we have video blogs too, no?On 11/21/05, pburns220 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:





Hello all, 

Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have tons of subscribers and 
they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with you in mind and your 
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feedback on my site comments. Let the shows begin. Good Luck

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Ted Tagami



Yah Bill, I only get a white screen :/

XP, Firefox, QT 7.0.3, no 3vix installed. I'll try my mac later.On 11/21/05, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv
http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the
Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash
version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did
something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather
than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had
simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I
could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think
of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they
didn't. 

Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make
> 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed.
> The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person
> not having quicktime at all.
> 
> Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx,
> an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive
> forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like
> adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid.
> 
> Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube
> flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about
> your quicktime videos.
> 
> Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you
> are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what
> its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of
> video that you offer.
> 
> I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many
> people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims
> about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or
> slightly optimistic. 
> 
> Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better
> job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies.
> Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example.
> 
> Steve of Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with
> > the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people
> > can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted
> > a few weeks ago?
> > 
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll
watch
> > > at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)
> > > 
> > > It was awesome meeting all of you.
> > > 
> > > We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
> > > presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a
handful
> > > of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new
vloggers
> > > out of it!  A job well done.
> > > 
> > > I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
> > > 
> > > - Dave
> > > 
> > > On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the
> > way back. It was also
> > > > great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other
> > videos as well!
> > > >
> > > > I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera
> > of the presentation itself,
> > > > figured something is better then nothing!
> > > >
> > > > http://blog.lgt2.com
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > > Kev!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the
> Vloggers
> > > > > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can
> see it
> > > > > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> > > > >
> > > > >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to
> > come.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Streeter
> > > > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > > > www.lofistl.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > > >
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[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread LeanBackVids.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> 4. The real future for all of this is being able to send our video
material
> not only to pocket level devices like iPods and PSPs, but when Tivos
> themselves will reed mRSS feeds and be able to subscribe to your
favorite
> podcasts on your TV.

Going the opposite way, TiVo just announced it is expanding its video
recording service so users will be able to transfer recorded TV shows
onto iPods.

http://tinyurl.com/ayarl

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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Gena
Hi Bev,

I would like to say a bunch of stuff but I'm in a computer lab 
waiting for my class to start.

There are times when it does get a little thick around here. Certain 
discussions I actually stay out of because I sense the topic isn't 
about vlogging per say but chest beating. Since I have stuff on my 
chest I try not to do that too often. ;-)

The file format situation is a fustration with me too, having to 
create in multiple video formats. I don't always have time or the 
energy to do it the way I want it done. But the reality is that there 
are a majority of windows users but many vloggers us Macs and 
Quicktime.

God helps when the Linux folks show up at the door.

Anyway I just wanted to say I hear you and that I'd like to follow up 
later after I get home. Please feel free to e-mail me and lets see 
what we can come up with.

Gena
***
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so 
far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve 
become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response 
at all.
> 
> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format.  
I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told 
that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime.  
Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods 
and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that 
they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube 
uses flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with 
creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be 
seen.  Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it 
into two flash formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my 
windows media viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I 
have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own 
videos can be seen by some, not by all.
> 
> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to 
watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the 
best way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic 
about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's 
flash.  My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did 
in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his 
computer.
> 
> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried 
everything and nothing works consistently.
> 
> I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting 
anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god 
have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come 
up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't 
view your videos."
> 
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[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Cheers for the info,

According to 3ivxs own guides, its the MPEG Quantizer (ASP) option
that causes the resulting files to be incompatible with quicktime 6,
bt I dont know if thats the problem with this particular video, I'll
try it on a few different computers tomorrow.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

PS. See this page for a little more info:

http://www.3ivx.com/support/mac/encoding/quicktime.html#advanced


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I did manage to see it at home.  But at the office I got only sound...
> the video was just a solid white screen.  (Both systems are windows xp
> w/ QT 7 installed).
> 
> The office computer has all sorts things 'locked down' ... but I dont
> really know what could have caused the problem.
> 
> > something that sounds complicated like 'adaptive inverse oscelot
repatraition anomoly grid'.
> 
> Uhg ... if I had a dime for every time the Adaptive Inverse Oscelot
> Repatraition Anomily Grid somehow messed me up, I'd be a wealthy man. 
> :-P
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade
On 11/21/05, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make
> 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed.
> The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person
> not having quicktime at all.

I did manage to see it at home.  But at the office I got only sound...
the video was just a solid white screen.  (Both systems are windows xp
w/ QT 7 installed).

The office computer has all sorts things 'locked down' ... but I dont
really know what could have caused the problem.

> something that sounds complicated like 'adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition 
> anomoly grid'.

Uhg ... if I had a dime for every time the Adaptive Inverse Oscelot
Repatraition Anomily Grid somehow messed me up, I'd be a wealthy man. 
:-P

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[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv
http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the
Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash
version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did
something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather
than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had
simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I
could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think
of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they
didn't. 

Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make
> 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed.
> The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person
> not having quicktime at all.
> 
> Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx,
> an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive
> forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like
> adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid.
> 
> Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube
> flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about
> your quicktime videos.
> 
> Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you
> are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what
> its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of
> video that you offer.
> 
> I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many
> people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims
> about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or
> slightly optimistic. 
> 
> Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better
> job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies.
> Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example.
> 
> Steve of Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with
> > the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people
> > can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted
> > a few weeks ago?
> > 
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll
watch
> > > at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)
> > > 
> > > It was awesome meeting all of you.
> > > 
> > > We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
> > > presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a
handful
> > > of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new
vloggers
> > > out of it!  A job well done.
> > > 
> > > I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
> > > 
> > > - Dave
> > > 
> > > On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the
> > way back. It was also
> > > > great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other
> > videos as well!
> > > >
> > > > I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera
> > of the presentation itself,
> > > > figured something is better then nothing!
> > > >
> > > > http://blog.lgt2.com
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > > Kev!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the
> Vloggers
> > > > > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can
> see it
> > > > > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> > > > >
> > > > >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to
> > come.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Streeter
> > > > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > > > www.lofistl.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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[videoblogging] Send your movies to me i would love to see them

2005-11-21 Thread pburns220


Hello all, 

Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have tons of 
subscribers and 
they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with you in mind 
and your 
talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I want your 
short and long 
films. Comedy, serious, annoying, anything that you think is talent. If you are 
producing 
short films, this is the perfect opportunity to show your work to everyone and 
get their 
feedback on my site comments. Let the shows begin. Good Luck

Paul Burns

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[videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling

2005-11-21 Thread digitalfilmmaker



I've been reading this group for the last week or so and have been officially video podcasting for a about the same time.

What I find perplexing is the hand wringing over Rocketboom and it's perceived slights to the video podcasting community.

1. People have been trying to break into the television business by
using streaming video for the last ten years.  It's only been in
the last year or so that there has been a tipping point of cheap
broadband and easy access to video technology that allows people to
really be creative.  And radio stations have been trying to do the
same thing with streaming their audio on the web.

It was only with the invention of RSS and the ability to whip off an MP3 that podcasting and internet radio became a phenomenon.

2.  Old media has money, and they solve problems with money. 
They're able to show up everyday with hours of fresh and good looking
programming because they have money.  Rocket Boom is the best in class video podcast.  Not because it's
clever, or has amazing production values, but because it shows up
everyday.  That consistency has a tremendous value.  And I
would say that anyone who is jealous of that or thinks they can do
better to just do it.  There is nothing stopping you.  RB has
a tremendous room for improvement -- as does any human endeavour.  If you can do better, please do.
Video blogging and video podcasts in general are enjoyable because
they
have immediacy and an unfiltered perspective that people crave. 
My favorite video podcast right now is http://TikiBarTv.com -- it has a
really fun perspective that I don't see anywhere else and great
production value.  But it only comes out once a month.  If
their were RSS feeds for http://Homestarrunner.com and
http://Roosterteeth.com I jump on them in a second.

3.  The iPod video is the first mass appeal gadget designed to
work with downloaded video.  The PSP could do it before, but it's
kind of a pain and Sony would prefer you bought UMD movies.  The
video iPod gives us as content creators a tool -- it plays on the Video
iPod.  Which means people with quicktime or players of similar
compatibility (PSPs included) will also be able to see our work.
4.  The real future for all of this is being able to send our
video material not only to pocket level devices like iPods and PSPs,
but when Tivos themselves will reed mRSS feeds and be able to subscribe
to your favorite podcasts on your TV.

5.  It seems obvious that the popular content producers will be
co-opted by big media if they let themselves.  While the artists
and iconoclasts will remain small and personal.

6.  We are in the period of video podcasting and video P2P sharing
right
now where music was 8 years ago.  There's a lot of dedicated
hobbyists
out there who collect TV shows and movies from the net and trade
them. 
But soon Big Media will aggressively enter this market.  iTunes
has started it, and the Howard Stern deal and others have started to
make consumers comfortable with the idea of getting the shows they want
when they want them, rather than being broadcast at an arbitrary time.

7.  What does this all mean for this group of 1600ish people
reading this?  Get good at creating video that people want to
watch.  If you can establish yourself right now when there are
less than 200 video podcasts on Podcast Alley you're going to have a
better chance at 'winning' in the end.  And what does winning even
mean?  Does it mean having podcast geeks swarm you like Dawn and
Drew did at the Podcast expo?  Getting a show on MTV?

For me video podcasting is the synthesis of years of filmmaking and
trying to break through into Hollywood.  It allows me an avenue to
find an audience without going through a gatekeeper.  If people
like what I'm doing they'll come back for more.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade



Hmmm ... for some reason I cant resist the chance to imagine how the post apocalyptic Internet would be ... :-P

Well Ham radio operators have been networking computers over radio
waves for a long time.  I actually saw this done before I ever saw
"the Internet".  Post apocalyptic scenario ... I'd imagine you'd
see Ham Radios spring up quite quickly (actually they're already there
... but you'd see them become hubs of communication quite
quickly).  There is a well documented and pretty robust "emergency
message relay" system on short wave.  Stations would operate in
all sorts of modes, including computers.

(random crazy thoughts follow...)

With the given that we'd have electricity somehow (some sort of
generator would have to work)... regular wired Local Area Networks
would pop up easily enough, I suppose.   They'd probably use
regular Wireless Access Points to inter-network with other small LANs
in the immediate area as needed.  Each of these smaller LAN would
probably schedule their availability ... a few hours at a time so as to
reserve power and bandwidth.  They'd probably use mostly text
(email/usenet style systems) to pass along vital information from one
pocket of survivors to the next ... why waste valuable time/fuel for
the network up-time needed to send a video message when text would take
only a fraction of the time (not to mention the bandwidth that other
networks might be waiting on in order to pass a message).

One of these LANs would ideally have a Ham Radio Relay Station and it
could act as a gateway to other HAM stations in distant metropolitan
areas.  Messages from one small network to another could be routed
via short wave radio (which has extremely large range) to the nearest
Ham Radio Relay station.

Small LANs in wireless range of their local Ham Radio Relay station,
could snyc up with the gateway during their scheduled up-time ...
stations further out would have to have their messages trickle down to
them over a period of time.

The number of HAM relay stations I imagine would grow quite quickly
such that each major area of population would have many gateways soon.

Eventually someone would figure out how to get the satellite Internet
services to work again (I imagine there would be some initial outage as
their ground based ISP goes dark?) and then there'd be even more global
gateways than just the HAM nets.

All of this would, I expect, be used mostly to marshal resources between survivor groups.  

Things would get ever more reliable and real-time as the infrastructure
is rebuilt ... assuming there is enough food/water for that to
matter.  

As long as the air wasnt toxic, the climate tolerable, we could find
food and water, and generate electricity for at least short periods of
time ...
 ... we'd be vlogging again in no time.  :-P

- Dave

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On 11/21/05, Thomas G Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



hey folks... didnt mean to compare two totally different things there just ignorant... cb is not ham... gotcha... 


pulling things dreadfully off topic again

i guess im just curious what of the internet in a post apocalyptic scenario?

although i guess if ur rockin ham... u dont really need to run the
computer into it... u can just re-organize society by speaking... no
email needed... 


thoughts on the network infrastructure that will reorganize society anyone?

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I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, but it's 
great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would freak out 
if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. I've been a ham 
(radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I always fear that 
it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people still interested in 
it too!

73s KC9FNR

Kev!



>
> Hehe yeah.  I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it
> now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to
> mainstream media.  It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where
> as things like VoIP (largely) isn't.
> 
> 73s de N9LTQ
> 
> :-P
> 
> On 11/21/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur 
radio
> > operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most 
bizarre
> > analogy I've ever seen yet.
> >
> > Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-)
> >
> > ER
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ...
> > > but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime
> > > in ... :-)
> > >
> > > Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been
> > > operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long lon

[videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1

2005-11-21 Thread ALT
We have an HDR A1, very similar to the HC1, and there's different output from the camera

HDV : HD signal compressed in mpeg2 to fit on a dv tape, it is what they call long gop which means there's only 6 real frames a second, the others frames are interpolations. You can edit native HDV in Final cut, Premiere and others...

DV : you can also shoot HDV (or DV) and downconvert your signal in DV with the camera than it would work with any native DV editing software.

If you need more infos, I'll be glad to help you out.

Jerome

Le 05-11-21, à 13:42, Brad Webb a écrit :

This is from my (foggy) memory, but isn't it their "HDV" format, or is 
 that simply hypespeak for mpeg2?

 Allen_Weiner wrote:

 >For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, 
 >what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, 
 >but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format.
 >
 >Allen
 >
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[videoblogging] Gabe's police video (used to be "verdi and baron fight")

2005-11-21 Thread Jay dedman
> I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening
> on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2
> hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as
> many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant
> hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson
> I have learned from this:
>
> Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it
> doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there.

what were people saying gabe?
they were mad at you for documenting getting randomly searched by police?

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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Joan Khoo



I never noticed that. hmm...

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[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make
3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed.
The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person
not having quicktime at all.

Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx,
an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive
forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like
adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid.

Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube
flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about
your quicktime videos.

Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you
are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what
its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of
video that you offer.

I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many
people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims
about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or
slightly optimistic. 

Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better
job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies.
Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example.

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with
> the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people
> can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted
> a few weeks ago?
> 
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch
> > at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)
> > 
> > It was awesome meeting all of you.
> > 
> > We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
> > presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful
> > of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers
> > out of it!  A job well done.
> > 
> > I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
> > 
> > - Dave
> > 
> > On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the
> way back. It was also
> > > great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other
> videos as well!
> > >
> > > I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera
> of the presentation itself,
> > > figured something is better then nothing!
> > >
> > > http://blog.lgt2.com
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > Kev!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the
Vloggers
> > > > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can
see it
> > > > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> > > >
> > > >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to
> come.
> > > >
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[videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Darren Winkler Darren Scott
I wasn't sure if anyone has responded to your question about who to 
contact about copyright issues.
Most music is handled in the United States by the Harry Fox Agency 
which is responsible for use rights access.
I think the web link is www.harryfox.com.
Hope that this helps.
Darren W.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 11/21/05, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > you must mean the "copyrighter" - the author often has little 
say in
> > matters once a piece is published
> 
> 
> Copyright holder, yes ;)
> 
> How naive of me.
> 
> Brad Webb wrote:
> >
> > The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of 
things.
> > However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to
> > distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement 
has to be
> > made with any performer.
> >
> > Ronen wrote:
> >
> >Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that 
a deal
> > must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage
> > exists to be paid to the writer?  And that if we're dealing with
> > non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with 
the
> > performer who performed the cover?
> >
> > On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > Steve Garfield wrote:
> >
> >  Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley
> >
> >  stopped
> >
> >  using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has
> >
> >  removed old
> >
> >  podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.
> >
> > http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.
> >
> >  And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:
> >
> >   http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-
videoblogs/
> >
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[videoblogging] HOW TO WATCH IPOD ON YOUR TV. article found in lifehackers feed

2005-11-21 Thread DOUG

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html


The MacDevCenter's (and former Lifehacker Associate Editor) Erica Sadun 
has discovered an interesting quirk about the fifth generation video 
iPod that could save you some money this Christmas.

You don't have to fork out for an outrageously priced "proprietary" 
Apple video cable. You don't even have to buy an expensive dock. You 
can connect your Video iPod directly to a TV, and you can do it with 
the ordinary camcorder A/V-to-RCA cable you probably already have lying 
around your house.
The simple trick is that the video outputs to the red RCA jack rather 
than the traditional yellow. With that little trick, you'll probably 
save around ten bucks.

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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





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[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread gabe_perardua
I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening
on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2
hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as
many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant
hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson
I have learned from this:

Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it
doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there.

I love all you vloggers. Let's just remeber that we have to look out
for eachother, and support wachother's freedom of speech, or freedom
to document. Whether that be for personal celebrity, political gain,
to pick up chicks, or just for the sake of vlogging.


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> > be it. I stand behind all of these statements even as fragments. Its
> > absolutely true that the majority of the videobloggers out there,
> > including yourself, are exactly this way - using videoblogging "to
> > share my life and meet new people, to make friends". Personal
> > diaries. Its like Friendster for video and that is great, its how I
> > met most of the friends I have now.
> >
> > I still wish and anticipate and can't wait to see more applied use of
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[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with
the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people
can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted
a few weeks ago?

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch
> at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)
> 
> It was awesome meeting all of you.
> 
> We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
> presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful
> of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers
> out of it!  A job well done.
> 
> I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the
way back. It was also
> > great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other
videos as well!
> >
> > I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera
of the presentation itself,
> > figured something is better then nothing!
> >
> > http://blog.lgt2.com
> >
> > Take care,
> > Kev!
> >
> >
> > > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers
> > > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it
> > > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> > >
> > >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to
come.
> > >
> > > Bill Streeter
> > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > www.lofistl.com
> > >
> >
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> >
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[videoblogging] Help with Grant Proposal

2005-11-21 Thread aapl_jedi
I'm applying for a grant to start a vlog for my courses at Western Michigan. 
I'll be providing 
the content. Students will be the subscribers for now.

I already have a miniDV camera. I'd like to purchase a Mac. 

The grant will probably be in the amount of $5,000. 

Do you have suggestions about what equipment and software to purchase?






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[videoblogging] Re: Output from Sony HDR-HC1

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Its Mpeg 2, stored on normal miniDV tapes, and at the same bitrate as
DV (so a 60 minute DV tape still gives 60 minutes HDV recording). They
did this because HD stuff is higher res than DV, so theres more
information to store, and mpeg2 can compress more than DV, so it mkes
up for this.

Its straight mpeg2 but things are never quite that simple. Its
actually mpeg2 transport stream I think, the file extension is .m2t

Also depends how your capture & editing software handdles HDV. Some
dont handle the native mpeg2 format and may capture to an intermediate
codec for editing, which may take up much more disc space. Or for
certain apps eg some standalone encoder, you may need to convert the
m2t to a m2v. 

The key really is having a suitable HDV editing program, anybody who
has one probably doesnt need to know any of the waffle Ive just been
saying, this stuff will be invisible to them.

I have that particular camera (European version) and its very nice. I
havent had anything interesting to film recently though so Ive
forgetten the more technical aspects of the format. Looks like its
going to be a cold winter here in the UK though, snow as early as the
end of this week, so I hope to capture some high definiton
winterscapes in the coming months. At that point I'll probably start
waffling about using higher res web video to make the best use of
specific HDV camera footage again, if memory sserves me correctly I
was promoting using quarter HDV which would be around the 960x540
resolution for PAL footage.

Steve of Elbows

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> >what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, 
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[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with
the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people
can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted
a few weeks ago?

Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch
> at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)
> 
> It was awesome meeting all of you.
> 
> We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
> presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful
> of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers
> out of it!  A job well done.
> 
> I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the
way back. It was also
> > great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other
videos as well!
> >
> > I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera
of the presentation itself,
> > figured something is better then nothing!
> >
> > http://blog.lgt2.com
> >
> > Take care,
> > Kev!
> >
> >
> > > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers
> > > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it
> > > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> > >
> > >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to
come.
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Re: [videoblogging] Now, your vlog can become a card!

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





Haven't done that, but I have been sending Jacqui 
Lawsuit cards for a couple of years now.  I love her stuff.  But now 
you've given me another idea!  (Of course, there's that darn format 
business again. LOL!)
-- BevBlog:  http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal:  
http://funnytheworld.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Randolfe 
  Wicker 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Cc: Casey Wayne 
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:52 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Now, your vlog 
  can become a card!
  
  A friend sent me the following link.  As I 
  viewed it, I was struck by the fact that one can literally "create a greeting 
  card" by doing a vlog.
   
  Now, there is an intriguing challenge!  Has 
  anyone done that yet?
   
  Here's the link:
  http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=GM26534313
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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





What a nice message.  Thanks, Jay!  I've 
about decided to keep on doing what I'm doing--processing in wmv, converting to 
3ivx to post to Blip and also post to YouTube which will convert to flash for me 
and link it to my flog.  Cumbersome, at best, but at least it covers as 
many of the bases as I am able to cover.
 
Thanks so much.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jay 
  dedman 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the 
  continuing frustration
  > I really rarely read this group any more because (a) 
  you are all so far> above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I 
  suspect I"ve become a> thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive 
  any response at all.i always have little tech questions.soemtimes 
  I post on the group...but oftne i email peopledirectly...becasue i uslaly 
  need more help than one email.i think youve made friends with people on 
  this groupyou can always email me directly if you have a tech 
  questions.jay.dedmanATgmail.comwe all started confused with this 
  stuff.friends of mine will tell you that im still pretty ignorant 
  now.> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  
  Any format.  I> started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see 
  that and I was told that> QuickTime was the way to go, so I started 
  posting in QuickTime.  Then I was> told that QuickTime couldn't be 
  loaded onto the new iPods and I should use> 3ivx, which I did.  
  Now some people complaint that they can't see those.  I> post to 
  both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube uses flash.  Some can see it, 
  some> can't.  Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on 
  my site, which> some complain can't be seen.  Then Robert very 
  kindly took a video for me> and converted it into two flash formats, 
  one of which I can't see.  I've> upgraded my windows media 
  viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though> I have no 
  problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos> can be 
  seen by some, not by all.see, youre already ahead of the curve.i 
  was at a devloper's confernce last month.there were reps from Yahoo, 
  reuters, etc...and everyone was frustratedwith video formats.NO ONE 
  KNOWS.there is no format that works everywhere.the commercial world is 
  going all Flash.but its not remixable..andvery often difficult to 
  aggregate.I have never seen flash done well.usually its some 
  commercial player that streams flash and has adsbefore and after the 
  video.> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just 
  wants to watch a> video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is 
  the best way to go?  I> belong to Senior Net and people are 
  enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but> cannot see either 3ivx or 
  YouTube's flash.  My boss wants me to put a video> on his web 
  page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to> 
  access from his computer.if someone has a problem watching your video 
  on their machine...itsnot YOUR fault.very oftnen its a person who 
  doesnt know how to install the most basicsoftware for viewing 
  video.Quicktime and WMV.we're also all the unfortunate victims of a 
  war between MS and Apple.they dont want to play nice with each 
  other.my suggestion is just make video thats easiest for you.if 
  you have a Windows machinemake WMV.if you have an apple, use QT.i 
  have a Mac computer but can watch both formats easily.if your viewer 
  has problems watching your videossend them a link to the correct 
  player.> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and 
  tried everything> and nothing works consistently.> I am so 
  confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting anything> 
  terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god have I 
  learned> a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up 
  against another> brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't 
  view your videos."i can watch your videosyou must realize that 
  youre ahead of most of your friends now.its time for you to teach 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread kelly belly



I haven't watched Kevin's video since I'm at work, but I watched Bill's video earlier.

It was nice to meet (almost) everyone.

Despite my camera shitting out on me, and the fact that I was late
because it took forever just to cross the street, I managed to get some
video. I should have some clips posted soon once I get off my ass edit
them. Or should I even bother? Everyone else will be posting nearly
identical video ...

/KellyOn 11/21/05, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watchat home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)It was awesome meeting all of you.We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handfulof tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggersout of it!  A job well done.I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: GUBA

2005-11-21 Thread Randolfe Wicker





The free distribution of copyrighted material on 
the Internet is very widespread.  I personally copy and paste entire 
articles from the New York Times on nonprofit sites like The Immortality 
Institute www.imminst.org 
 
The thinking is that since no one profits from this 
site, free sharing of information by people who have obtained it legally isn't a 
serious commercial offense.
 
I'm not sure the lawyers would agree with 
that.  However, no one I know of has gotten any flack for violations of 
copyright when used in this manner.
 
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Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Watkins 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:22 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: GUBA
  There are many different sites on the internet that offer a 
  webinterface to binary newsgroup (usenet) posts.However, most of 
  the files on usenet have nothing to do withvideoblogging, they are largely 
  copyrighted material, eg films and tvshows, that should not be 
  redistributed on the internet at all. Forwhatever reasons, the RIAA & 
  friends havent focussed on newsgroupsmuch yet, and they dont get mentioned 
  by the mainstream media hardlyever, dunno if the strategy is to pretend 
  they dont exist or what.Anyway your blog isnt on usenet. Videospider 
  is lying in its FAQ aboutwhere its material comes from. Clearly much of it 
  is from usenet, butthey also appear to be leeching content direct from 
  peoples websites,which is what seems to have happened in the case of your 
  videoblog.Therefore it will be a wild goosechase to think that every 
  usenetservice out there is leeching your content, they arent. Its just 
  thevideospider FAQ being misleading. Now if some individual did 
  upload your video to usenet (which as ofwriting is not so), Im not sure 
  what you could do about that.usenet/newsgroups are usually available for 
  free (via newsreadersoftware & your ISP), so the person who stuck your 
  stuff on usenetisnt violating CC non-commercial terms. Services that make 
  usenetavailable via an easy web interface just consider themselves to 
  beproviding a service, and say that the actual content is beyond 
  theircontrol. One day the law will probably adress this anomoly, but Id 
  notexpect videoblogging to lead the charge as every day there are 
  already$millions of pounds worth of MSM copyrighted content flying 
  aroundnewsgroups, and the USENET is very large and redistributed by 
  manylarge companies (ISPs mostly). Likely the claim is that the 
  originalperson who put the stuff onto Usenet is the violator, and it is 
  theywho action should be taken against, rather than usenet as a 
  whole.In conclusion Id say that videospide is just a typical leech 
  likewe've talked about before, and that usenet is not currently a 
  threatto videobloggers. If I had a videoblog that was only available 
  viasubscription for a fee, or I ran a porn website, Id probably 
  monitorusenet as its the sort of thing that such material is likely to 
  beillegally redistributed via. I would look at the headers of 
  therelevant usenet posts to determine who did the uploading, and 
  thenconsider them the offender, rather than the impossible task of 
  chasingdown every usenet provider.Steve of Elbows--- In 
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:>> GUBA is another site that charges you to watch Pictures 
  and Videos from > Usenet, All for only $14.95 / mo..> > 
  > 
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Re: [videoblogging] Introducing myself

2005-11-21 Thread Jay dedman
> My name is Jose Hernandez, I am from San Luis Obispo, living in San
> Francisco. I just started a collaborative Vlog with some friends to
> distribute our old work and p;ay with some new ideas, its called
> http://burntwire.tv
> and my personal site is
> http://jozecuervo.com

welcome.
Jose's feed is also http://feeds.feedburner.com/Burntwiretv
you should meet up with renegad and schlomo and the other Bay Area
videobloggers.


> So here I am, I just got back from last weeks portable media expo. Met
> some cool folks from Feedburner, libsyn, odeo, audioblog, etc. Started
> running into the OG vloggers Eric Rice (was at the expo), Michael
> Meiser (on technorati), Ryanne (dropped her a line).
> I am really curious about the hosting, syndication and distribution
> solutions people have been using, I am about to break my 30GB  monthly
> bandwidth limit and am looking into free services ourmedia and blip TV
> as well as pay services audioblog.com and libsyn.com

we've all been here before.
but there are solutions for now.
storage and bandwidth should never stop you.

> here's my current process:
> http://burntwire.tv/images/production.jpg
> 1. I export from final cut or premeire as a Mpeg4, 320x240 progressive
> video clip. I then allow quicktime pro to SLOWLY transcode to the
> "export to iPod" H.264 format. My primary goal is to get clips onto
> the iPod and I have been happy with the results of the encoding,
> though they are large.
> 2 Currently I am uploading each clip to my mediatemple shared server
> account. They give me 2gb/30gb and 6 domains. I use them for a few
> clients and my own sites.
> 3. I then post the copy I get from the episode's contributor. Other
> than title/description, there is other meta-data that I can place into
> the body of a blog post. I would really love a tag system for doing
> this kind of thing.
> 4. Blogger generates my ATOM which is then piped into feedburner,
> which generates my eclosures and tacks on some itunes namespace goodness.
> 5. I then go into mefeedia to manually enter everything again.
> As of last night I have been uploading into blip.tv also. I am
> considering posting all of my existing work to blip and then switching
> the feed source in feedbuner. I would ideally like the ultimate level
> of customizability, like the ability to split the feed into
> subchannels, since I have so many different types of content coming at
> me. Libsyn offers that feature.

really a server is a server is a server.
some people like to pay for a server becasue they have control over stats etc.
some people like the Archive becasue its free and will store the video
for "eternity" for the community.
some people like Blip.tv because its free, the creators are cool, and
very reliable.

all you  need to do is upload to a server fo your choice and link to it.
it goes into the feed automatically.
after you figure out your process, you should just be worrying about
making video.

> My second area of inquisiton is file format. I've had several
> complaints about the current format. I would like to offer a second
> format, and possibly a second feed for people who cannot view H.264. A
> friend mentioned that if I import H.264 into flash, I can only export
> to the Flash8 player. That makes me want to shy away from flash at
> this time. I guess my question is, what are some good lowest common
> denominator cross-platform formats? I'd like to his OS9 and windows
> media 6.4... I'm guessing MPEG-1 is the way to go.

Bev, whose also on this list, thought she was behind the times because
she asked this same question. but we all know that this is one of THE
questions that is still in need of an answer.
what format to use?

as discussed earlier.
if you want to be on the iPod..use QT.
but WMV is fine as well for viewing.
as a community we all need to tell our uncles, pranets, friends,
grocers to download the two most popluar players.
Quciktime Player: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html
Windown media Player: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/default.mspx
both are free.
these allow you to watch 80% of video on the web that videobloggers make.

i feel like this is some kind of therapy group:
"if they cant watch your video on their computer, its probably their fault."
educate.

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Have they "copied" your material or have they just 
cleverly copied the link to your free video?
 
I'm glad you're raising this issue.
 
I think they might argue that they aren't charging 
people for "viewing" your vlogs.  They might argue that "The Grand Canyon 
might be free but tour guides get paid for taking people into parts of 
it".
 
I'm hoping to start  Vlog Digest as a free 
service by creating links to exceedingly fine vlogs.  If I did that and 
then later sold "paid ads" or on site advertising would you consider that 
"commercial" use of your vlogs?
 
 
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Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
 
 

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  From: 
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  Garfield 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:26 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] 
Videospider
  Have you seen videospider?I 
  wrote up a blog post about them."Sunday, November 20, 2005I've 
  requested that videospider remove my contentI just found Videospider 
  yesterday. They are charing people to view my  Creative Commons 
  licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE.I'd say that charging for 
  viewing is commerical use."My post details my research into them 
  including this from their site:"Q:Why are you charging people for 
  videos I've posted to USENET for free  
  distribution?A:We're not charging people for your videos. 
  Videospider customers are  paying for our service that formats and 
  indexes USENET binary posts to  make them easier to browse and 
  view."My emails to them were rejected.--Steve-- Home 
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[videoblogging] Now, your vlog can become a card!

2005-11-21 Thread Randolfe Wicker





A friend sent me the following link.  As I 
viewed it, I was struck by the fact that one can literally "create a greeting 
card" by doing a vlog.
 
Now, there is an intriguing challenge!  Has 
anyone done that yet?
 
Here's the link:
http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=GM26534313
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[videoblogging] Matching music to video?

2005-11-21 Thread Randolfe Wicker





I have slowly come to realize that some of the 
really great vloggers have a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate 
in their vlogs to convey and underscore an emotion.
 
Does anyone know of any book or internet resource 
that doesn't just give "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or 
otherwise) to convey emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", 
etc?
 
I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to 
find it.
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Jay dedman
> I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far
> above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a
> thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all.

i always have little tech questions.
soemtimes I post on the group...but oftne i email people
directly...becasue i uslaly need more help than one email.
i think youve made friends with people on this group
you can always email me directly if you have a tech questions.
jay.dedmanATgmail.com
we all started confused with this stuff.
friends of mine will tell you that im still pretty ignorant now.

> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format.  I
> started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that
> QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime.  Then I was
> told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use
> 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that they can't see those.  I
> post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube uses flash.  Some can see it, some
> can't.  Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which
> some complain can't be seen.  Then Robert very kindly took a video for me
> and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see.  I've
> upgraded my windows media viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though
> I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos
> can be seen by some, not by all.

see, youre already ahead of the curve.
i was at a devloper's confernce last month.
there were reps from Yahoo, reuters, etc...and everyone was frustrated
with video formats.
NO ONE KNOWS.
there is no format that works everywhere.
the commercial world is going all Flash.but its not remixable..and
very often difficult to aggregate.
I have never seen flash done well.
usually its some commercial player that streams flash and has ads
before and after the video.

> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a
> video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go?  I
> belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but
> cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My boss wants me to put a video
> on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to
> access from his computer.

if someone has a problem watching your video on their machine...its
not YOUR fault.
very oftnen its a person who doesnt know how to install the most basic
software for viewing video.
Quicktime and WMV.
we're also all the unfortunate victims of a war between MS and Apple.
they dont want to play nice with each other.

my suggestion is just make video thats easiest for you.
if you have a Windows machinemake WMV.
if you have an apple, use QT.
i have a Mac computer but can watch both formats easily.

if your viewer has problems watching your videos
send them a link to the correct player.

> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything
> and nothing works consistently.
> I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting anything
> terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god have I learned
> a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another
> brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos."

i can watch your videos
you must realize that youre ahead of most of your friends now.
its time for you to teach them.

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Re: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.

2005-11-21 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Your vlog was truly extraordinary.  It held 
your attention.  It gave a unique perspective.  It built 
tension.  It reminded me of some of the greatest work of Alfred 
Hitchcock.
 
You've turned me from a viewer into a 
fan.
 
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Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality 
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Show



I need to quit posting after only reading half the thread ... what I meant was ... yeah, what they said ...On 11/21/05, Richard Show <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Actually, when you cover a song, if you make money, you're supposed to
pay the writer something like 15 cents per song ... I don't know how
that would tranlslate into videos ... (perhaps someone who knows
something about ASCAP and all that, can correct me, and translate into
what I'm trying to say) ... my wife and I did a CD a while ago with one
cover song and that's what we heard at various folk festivals 
based on our sales, we were pretty safe in never sending money to the
writer ... (now the music is under a CC license on the internet
archive, by the way - not the cover song, but the ones we wrote).

... RichardOn 11/21/05, Ronen <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which
opens up a world of possibilites.  (I'm noticing the rocketboom
version seems a cover)On 11/21/05, Ronen <

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect.

The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes
more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave
it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). 
I seriousely don't know which is more effective.  Any
ideas/thoughts on the subject?

Ronen
cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, 
Khoo, Joan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use
mainstream music in videos.

And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we
identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos?

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Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Show



Actually, when you cover a song, if you make money, you're supposed to
pay the writer something like 15 cents per song ... I don't know how
that would tranlslate into videos ... (perhaps someone who knows
something about ASCAP and all that, can correct me, and translate into
what I'm trying to say) ... my wife and I did a CD a while ago with one
cover song and that's what we heard at various folk festivals 
based on our sales, we were pretty safe in never sending money to the
writer ... (now the music is under a CC license on the internet
archive, by the way - not the cover song, but the ones we wrote).

... RichardOn 11/21/05, Ronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which
opens up a world of possibilites.  (I'm noticing the rocketboom
version seems a cover)On 11/21/05, Ronen <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect.

The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes
more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave
it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). 
I seriousely don't know which is more effective.  Any
ideas/thoughts on the subject?

Ronen
cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, 
Khoo, Joan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use
mainstream music in videos.

And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we
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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread LeanBackVids.com
I'm not a big fan of the new Google Reader, but I think it is
important to offer a 1-click subscribe button for it since Google is
beloved by most Internet users.  It is my assumption that average
users are more likely to relate to a Google link than a Bloglines or
Yahoo.  Personally, I offer links to each along with a direct
FeedBurner link.

Here is the Google Reader code...

http://www.google.com/reader/preview/*/feed/http://feeds.feedburner.com/ridertech

Oh, I also noticed an increase in iTunes subscribers when I changed my
FeedBurner layout to the "Podcast" theme rather than the "ClearFeed"
theme.  The Podcast theme offers a 1-click subscribe for iTunes.

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use than FireAnt, though it is much less versatile, I realize, but it
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Re: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.

2005-11-21 Thread Ronen



Interesting Stuff.  Feel better.

PS-  Where can we find the Marcy Playground video?

Ronen
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas G Henry



hey folks... didnt mean to compare two totally different things there just ignorant... cb is not ham... gotcha... 


pulling things dreadfully off topic again

i guess im just curious what of the internet in a post apocalyptic scenario?

although i guess if ur rockin ham... u dont really need to run the
computer into it... u can just re-organize society by speaking... no
email needed... 


thoughts on the network infrastructure that will reorganize society anyone?

On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, but it's 
great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would freak out 
if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. I've been a ham 
(radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I always fear that 
it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people still interested in 
it too!

73s KC9FNR

Kev!



>
> Hehe yeah.  I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it
> now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to
> mainstream media.  It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where
> as things like VoIP (largely) isn't.
> 
> 73s de N9LTQ
> 
> :-P
> 
> On 11/21/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur 
radio
> > operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most 
bizarre
> > analogy I've ever seen yet.
> >
> > Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-)
> >
> > ER
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ...
> > > but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime
> > > in ... :-)
> > >
> > > Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been
> > > operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long
> > > long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times
> > > vital) component in emergency/disaster communications.
> > >
> > > ok .. now back to the topic (I think).
> > >
> > > I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as
> > > Vlogging is to TV.
> > >
> > > VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world
> > > without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio
> > > operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have.
> > >
> > > One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham
> > > Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random
> > > conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great.
> > > It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals
> > > worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of
> > > things ... but it was great.
> > >
> > > Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P
> > >
> > > The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact
> > > anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route
> > > Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA!
> > >
> > > Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P
> > >
> > > Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling
> > > numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated
> > > communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there
> > > was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably)
> > > was hard to ignore.
> > >
> > > Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models
> > > and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and
> > > engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more
> > > of the world.
> > >
> > > Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but
> > > nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have
> > > changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but
> > > HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they
> > > have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect
> > > long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP
> > > chat room).
> > >
> > > The same will happen with media I think.
> > >
> > > Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be
> > > more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs
> > > (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream
> > > media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news
> > > and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their
> > > viewers).
> > >
> > > People willing t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Ronen



On 11/21/05, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




you must mean the "copyrighter" - the author often has little say in
matters once a piece is published
Copyright holder, yes ;)

How naive of me.

Brad Webb wrote:

  The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of things. However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement has to be 
made with any performer.Ronen wrote:  
  
Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid to the writer?  And that if we're dealing with 
non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover?On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Steve Garfield wrote:


  Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley  

stopped

  using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has  

removed old

  podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.
  

And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:  http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/
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Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1351

2005-11-21 Thread Miguel Serradas Duarte

Bev, couldn´t agree with you more. Had lunch with a large group of  
friends, and the response to my blogs couldn´t be more inconsistent.  
Quicktime this, filme doesn´t load, etc. Any toughts on this subject  
is greatly apreciated.

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>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:05:16 -0800
>From: "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: the continuing frustration
>
> I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so  
> far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve  
> become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any  
> response at all.
>
> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format.   
> I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was  
> told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in  
> QuickTime.  Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto  
> the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people  
> complaint that they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and  
> YouTube.  You Tube uses flash.  Some can see it, some can't.   
> Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which  
> some complain can't be seen.  Then Robert very kindly took a video  
> for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I  
> can't see.  I've upgraded my windows media viewer.  I've upgraded  
> my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos  
> most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all.
>
> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to  
> watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the  
> best way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic  
> about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's  
> flash.  My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I  
> did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his  
> computer.
>
> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried  
> everything and nothing works consistently.
>
> I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting  
> anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my  
> god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn  
> I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried,  
> but I can't view your videos."
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Markus Sandy






you must mean the "copyrighter" - the author often has little say in
matters once a piece is published


Brad Webb wrote:

  The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of things. 
However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to 
distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement has to be 
made with any performer.

Ronen wrote:

  
  
Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal 
must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage 
exists to be paid to the writer?  And that if we're dealing with 
non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the 
performer who performed the cover?

On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Steve Garfield wrote:


  Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley
  

stopped


  using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has
  

removed old


  podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.

http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.
  

And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:

  http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/

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Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread Verdi
Fucking forget it Andrew.  You don't get it.  You don't seem to want  
to get it.  I doubt you ever will get it.  This thread has truly  
become a comedy of your inability to even conceive that people could  
read your words and get from them something other than what you  
intended.
-Verdi


On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:31 PM, andrew michael baron wrote:

> All I can say then is
> that technically, your logic is not applicable because you make it
> seem as though I have been hitting you or something. All I said to
> you Verdi is that you are a pro at ripping a sentence fragment out of
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





Thanks for the link Erin.  I've bookmarked it 
and hope to check it out when I have more time.
-- BevBlog:  http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal:  
http://funnytheworld.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Erin Nealey 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:52 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the 
  continuing frustration
  Hope this isn't too far off the topic of the thread.. but 
  there isindeed a forum over at vlogdir.com. I, for one, think it would 
  bereally cool to use that as a means of communication as 
  well.Organizing messages into different topics makes it easier to find 
  ananswer to a question you may have, rather than searching 
  throughthousands of messages. A lot of things get covered several times 
  herebecause people have not seen the previous discussions. 
  Unfortunately,not all that many people have taken advantage of it. You can 
  evenembed video, audio, images as well as media enclosures from rss 
  feedsright into your messages making it possible to have video 
  discussions. http://vlogdir.com//forum/index.phpErin 
  NealeyMom's Brag Vlognealey.blogspot.com> The high volume 
  of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally> harp on about 
  forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this> list seems to 
  have attracted many people to talk as much as is done> here. Its a 
  shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this> place was a 
  forum, people would be able to respond to links with a one> word prely 
  such as 'cool'  without fear of anybody moaning, and the> original 
  poster would have some feedback and a warm glow 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade
I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch
at home if I can.  Great video recap, Kevin. :-)

It was awesome meeting all of you.

We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the
presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful
of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers
out of it!  A job well done.

I'll have more video of the event as well later this week.

- Dave

On 11/21/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It 
> was also
> great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as 
> well!
>
> I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the 
> presentation itself,
> figured something is better then nothing!
>
> http://blog.lgt2.com
>
> Take care,
> Kev!
>
>
> > I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers
> > experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it
> > here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> >
> >  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come.
> >
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





>>Id be happy to look at any of 
your examples of videos that arentworking right for some people, in whatever 
format, to see if I cananswer the specific problems in your case. Personally 
if I was makinga site that should be easily accessible to all, id use flash 
video forpeople using browser, and have .mp4 versions of the videos 
availablevia feed. <<
Thanks for the offer, Steve.  I find that I'm starting to continue 
to post the 3ivx to Blip and the same to YouTube, with a link from my 
vlog.  I figure that way I hope to maximize the potential.
 
Of course this is all pretty much a tempest in 
a teapot since I have only a whopping SEVEN people subscribing the the RSS feed, 
so I'm not quite Rocketboom yet!
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





Thanks to you (and to every one) for the clear, 
concise explanation of where we are and what is the best thing to do.  I 
appreciate if very much.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  anonperson1969 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:28 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the 
  continuing frustration
  The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no 
  consistancy.  There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, 
  etc) and multiple CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, 
  xvid, divx, etc)... and NONE of them have become common.Audio is 
  pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing anytime 
  soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or whatever.  
  Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think it ever 
  will.No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's 
  going to be someone who can't see it.  That's just the sad 
  truth.  So you're choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force 
  your viewers to download the appropriate player  2) encode your video 
  in as many formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers 
  enough people.People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most 
  computers (have I seen the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a 
  day from people who don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're 
  on company workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. 
  If the goal is purely "reaching as many people as possible"... I'd 
  encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a Flash 
  .FLV.  If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to 
  upgrade.-Terryhttp://boycottsociety.blogspot.com--- 
  In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:>> > I have studied all of Josh's excellent training 
  videos and tried everything and nothing works 
  consistently.

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





>>at this time, the best way i know to 
make sure people see videos is to teach them to vlog and use tools like 
fireant<<
 
Has anybody tried the google reader?  I'm 
finding it much easier to use than FireAnt, though it is much less versatile, I 
realize, but it seems to be the nice plain-vanilla tool that works for 
me.>>i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge 
hurdle for some, but look at the benefits the more you vlog, the better you 
view? <<
 
Six months ago, I didn't have a clue about most of 
this stuff, and I am so grateful to everyone for all that I've 
learned!
 
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Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Markus Sandy






not a thorn here bev

i still firmly believe that *most* people  have trouble seeing videos.

i have no evidence, but i think the odds of internet users being able
to view one of video is less than 1 in 6.  that is, it's half a crap
shot

at this time, the best way i know to make sure people see videos is to
teach them to vlog and use tools like fireant

i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge hurdle for some,
but look at the benefits

the more you vlog, the better you view?  

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BevSykes wrote:

  
  
  
  I really rarely read this group any
more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep
up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now
rarely receive any response at all.
   
  But my big frustration is in trying
to find a format.  Any format.  I started posting in .wmv but people
couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I
started posting in QuickTime.  Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't
be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now
some people complaint that they can't see those.  I post to both Blip
and YouTube.  You Tube uses flash.  Some can see it, some can't. 
Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some
complain can't be seen.  Then Robert very kindly took a video for me
and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. 
I've upgraded my windows media viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format
and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post,
my own videos can be seen by some, not by all.
   
  For the average, run of the mill,
senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video
blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go?  I belong to Senior Net
and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see
either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My boss wants me to put a video on his
web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to
access from his computer.
   
  I have studied all of Josh's
excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently.
   
  I am so confused and so frustrated. 
It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or
anything else.  And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months,
but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone
says "I tried, but I can't view your videos."
   
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[videoblogging] Re: Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Joan Khoo



Indeed! Not that I'm condoning violence in any way. :)
Are they a legit business?
-Joan


Message: 18
   Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:58:07 +0100
   From: "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Videospider

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:51:06 +0100, Deirdre Straughan
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> LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go
> beat them up for you?

Only if you videoblog it!

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Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1350

2005-11-21 Thread Joan Khoo



Thanks for the tip. I'm already using music from podshow but it takes
more time for me to make a video because of it. Oh well..cest la vie. 
Joan


Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:03:10 -0500
   From: Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: mainstream music in videos

Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped
using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old
podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.

http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.

It promotes independent artists AND they get notified when you play
their music.

I've gotten some great feedback from band members and they love it when
we can promote their music.

On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Ronen wrote:

>  It's safer to use music you have permissions to. But
>
>  Usually people let it slide. Kevin Smith's vlog uses a ton of
> copyrighted music, and do many other people's, and no one's raising
> any eyebrows. Just don't try to sell it, or put the vlog in iTunes'
> listings.
>
>  The answer is basically "No, but [for the time being] you can get
> away with it." Some people I know are trying to work out an extended
> solution to this which would crack open the archives for use. More as
> it develops.

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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
I agree with you mostly, and even if the codec issue was sorted there
are always isues like resolution and different framerates, issues that
wont get any simpler as HD stuff becomes more common with video from
TV, DVD and internet.

On the other hand I remain optimistic about mpeg4's chances of sucess.
 Already a large number of the formats we talk about are mpeg4. There
are annoying differences and complications, issues caused by history,
by technological barriers, or by the interests of companies already in
this field. 

wmv is a sort of mpeg4 in most respects. 3ivx, divx, xvid are mpeg4.
Many movs are mpeg4. h264 is a newer kind of mpeg4. Sony PSP plays
mpeg4, ipod plays mpeg4. Next generation of DVD is mpeg4-based. 

There are multiple ways to encode and play mpeg4. Its just not in many
companies interests to aim for total convergence, they will only take
advantage of these things being standards when it suits them, at other
timess they will break the standard to give their products the
advantage or some reason to exist.

Im pretty confident mpeg4/h264 is going to win in the hardware player
market.  Im pretty confident that mpeg4 & h264 will become normal
fetures of video players, editing & encoding applications.

Watching video in the browser is a little less assured. It depends how
many people stick to using .mov containers rather than .mp4, and on
more browser plugins that handle playing mpeg4, being installed on
more peoples computers.

What microsoft do about the emergence of mp4 hardware driving demand
for mp4 video rather than wmv will be important. What divx do about
the same sort of issue will be important. Whether Apple sort their act
out (eg with QT7 on the PC reliability/performance) will make a
difference, though can be bypassed if other mp4 player browser
software starts to dominate. Whether Sony make the PSPs mpeg4
compatibility better will mean something.

Im hearing that the dam is about to burst open on Hollywood & TV
content being done over the net. 2006 is supposed to be the year so
the current thinking goes, its press release and rumour city these
days. And the next-generation of games consoles are likely to come
into the mix as playback devices. DRM stuff and a desire to closely
track viewing figures will likely be an enemy to my optimism on these
issues, but never mind, I will keep banging the mp4 drum, its easier
to bang since the PSP and ipod came out thats for sure.

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "anonperson1969"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no consistancy.  
> There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc) and multiple 
> CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, xvid, divx, 
> etc)... and NONE of them have become common.
> 
> Audio is pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing 
> anytime soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or 
> whatever.  Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think 
> it ever will.
> 
> No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's going to 
> be someone who can't see it.  That's just the sad truth.  So you're 
> choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force your viewers to 
> download the appropriate player  2) encode your video in as many 
> formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers enough 
> people.
> 
> People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most computers (have I seen 
> the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a day from people who 
> don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're on company 
> workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. 
> 
> If the goal is purely "reaching as many people as possible"... I'd 
> encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a 
> Flash .FLV.  If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to 
> upgrade.
> 
> -Terry
> http://boycottsociety.blogspot.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried 
> everything and nothing works consistently.
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[videoblogging] Re: "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin
I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, 
but it's 
great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would 
freak out 
if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. 
I've been a ham 
(radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I 
always fear that 
it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people 
still interested in 
it too!

73s KC9FNR

Kev!



>
> Hehe yeah.  I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it
> now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to
> mainstream media.  It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where
> as things like VoIP (largely) isn't.
> 
> 73s de N9LTQ
> 
> :-P
> 
> On 11/21/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are 
> > amateur 
radio
> > operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the 
> > most 
bizarre
> > analogy I've ever seen yet.
> >
> > Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-)
> >
> > ER
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) 
> > > ...
> > > but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll 
> > > chime
> > > in ... :-)
> > >
> > > Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been
> > > operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long
> > > long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at 
> > > times
> > > vital) component in emergency/disaster communications.
> > >
> > > ok .. now back to the topic (I think).
> > >
> > > I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as
> > > Vlogging is to TV.
> > >
> > > VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world
> > > without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio
> > > operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have.
> > >
> > > One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham
> > > Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random
> > > conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great.
> > > It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio 
> > > signals
> > > worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of
> > > things ... but it was great.
> > >
> > > Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P
> > >
> > > The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact
> > > anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route
> > > Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA!
> > >
> > > Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P
> > >
> > > Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling
> > > numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and 
> > > unregulated
> > > communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure 
> > > there
> > > was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use 
> > > (comparably)
> > > was hard to ignore.
> > >
> > > Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models
> > > and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and
> > > engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more
> > > of the world.
> > >
> > > Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, 
> > > but
> > > nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have
> > > changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but
> > > HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though 
> > > they
> > > have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect
> > > long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international 
> > > VoIP
> > > chat room).
> > >
> > > The same will happen with media I think.
> > >
> > > Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be
> > > more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like 
> > > vlogs
> > > (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream
> > > media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news
> > > and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their
> > > viewers).
> > >
> > > People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging
> > > scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled
> > > HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-)
> > >
> > > Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that 
> > > is
> > > bound to come.
> > >
> > > ... I think I found the point there?? ...
> > >
> > > - Dave
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! 

[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin
Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It 
was also 
great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well!

I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the 
presentation itself, 
figured something is better then nothing!

http://blog.lgt2.com

Take care,
Kev!


> I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers
> experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it
> here: http://blip.tv/file/4915
> 
>  We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come.
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Ronen wrote:
> Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be
> arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid
> to the writer? And that if we're dealing with non-profit distribution, the
> only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover?

A thread at Ourmedia titled 'Publishing a Cover' is somewhat interesting:

   http://www.ourmedia.org/node/9564

I assume 'publishing', 'recording', and 'performing' a cover might all 
be different.

The post is in the 'Copyright & Fair Use' forum, which has plenty more:

   http://www.ourmedia.org/forum/15


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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Erin Nealey
Hope this isn't too far off the topic of the thread.. but there is
indeed a forum over at vlogdir.com. I, for one, think it would be
really cool to use that as a means of communication as well.
Organizing messages into different topics makes it easier to find an
answer to a question you may have, rather than searching through
thousands of messages. A lot of things get covered several times here
because people have not seen the previous discussions. Unfortunately,
not all that many people have taken advantage of it. You can even
embed video, audio, images as well as media enclosures from rss feeds
right into your messages making it possible to have video discussions. 

http://vlogdir.com//forum/index.php

Erin Nealey
Mom's Brag Vlog
nealey.blogspot.com

> The high volume of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally
> harp on about forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this
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> here. Its a shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Brad Webb
The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of things. 
However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to 
distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement has to be 
made with any performer.

Ronen wrote:

> Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal 
> must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage 
> exists to be paid to the writer?  And that if we're dealing with 
> non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the 
> performer who performed the cover?
>
> On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Steve Garfield wrote:
>> Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley
> stopped
>> using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has
> removed old
>> podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.
>>
>> http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.
>
> And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:
>
>   http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/
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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
There wass a fuss because:

We knew the paper spec before anybody actually had one of the devices
to test and be sure.

Theres plenty of ways to make video that doesnt work

H264 as well as mpeg 4 adds a extra layer of potential confusion and
choice about what format gives the best results

Apple confused the issue by making their qt7.03 ipod export use a
different file extension, and put such stuff in their quickstart
instructions without explaining the implications and that its h264
properly. 

This stuff is on average less familiar to many windows users, who have
been more used to wmv and avi, rather than 3ivx and .mp4 or .mov.
Apple users have been luckier than Windows users, in that the ipod
helps more windows users to consider mp4/mov than would do if it was
only for the sake of Mac owners. Its nice when Mac owners give in and
offer wmv as well for the sake of PC users, but a lot of PC users hate
wmv's far more than Mac owners hate .mov, so Im going to give in and
offer flash when I get off me butt nd do some video.

I admire people who are able to give ipod solutions in a single
sentence, but as peoples requirements vary and the devil is in the
detail, I certainly hope theres a use for the people like me who get
into detail at the expense of making everything sound complicated. 

Steve of Elbows

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>
> We use Quicktime with single-pass 3ivx...  It works for people who
> have QT 6 or higher and Bre showed us our videos on his video iPod.
> 
> Our latest (theme-based) vlog has more viewers that are non-vloggers
> than vloggers and none of them have ever complained about our format.
> 
> I too was confused why there was so much fuss over the video iPod
> format, but it sounds like MPEG4 (or 3ivx) is fine.
> 
> -Matt
> ---
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> http://leanbackvids.com
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> 
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> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so
> far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve
> become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response
> at all.
> > 
> > But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format. 
> I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told
> that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. 
> Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods
> and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that
> they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube uses
> flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with creating
> imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen.  Then
> Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash
> formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my windows media
> viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem
> viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by
> some, not by all.
> > 
> > For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to
> watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best
> way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about
> seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My
> boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several
> formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer.
> > 
> > I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried
> everything and nothing works consistently.
> > 
> > I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting
> anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god
> have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come
> up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't
> view your videos."
> > 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade
Hehe yeah.  I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it
now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to
mainstream media.  It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where
as things like VoIP (largely) isn't.

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On 11/21/05, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are 
> amateur radio
> operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the 
> most bizarre
> analogy I've ever seen yet.
>
> Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-)
>
> ER
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ...
> > but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime
> > in ... :-)
> >
> > Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been
> > operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long
> > long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times
> > vital) component in emergency/disaster communications.
> >
> > ok .. now back to the topic (I think).
> >
> > I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as
> > Vlogging is to TV.
> >
> > VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world
> > without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio
> > operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have.
> >
> > One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham
> > Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random
> > conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great.
> > It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals
> > worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of
> > things ... but it was great.
> >
> > Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P
> >
> > The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact
> > anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route
> > Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA!
> >
> > Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P
> >
> > Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling
> > numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated
> > communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there
> > was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably)
> > was hard to ignore.
> >
> > Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models
> > and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and
> > engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more
> > of the world.
> >
> > Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but
> > nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have
> > changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but
> > HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they
> > have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect
> > long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP
> > chat room).
> >
> > The same will happen with media I think.
> >
> > Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be
> > more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs
> > (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream
> > media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news
> > and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their
> > viewers).
> >
> > People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging
> > scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled
> > HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-)
> >
> > Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is
> > bound to come.
> >
> > ... I think I found the point there?? ...
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Ronen



Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal
must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists
to be paid to the writer?  And that if we're dealing with
non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the
performer who performed the cover?On 11/21/05, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Steve Garfield wrote:
> Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped 
> using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old 
> podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.
> 
> http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.

And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:

  http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/


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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Greetings,

I dont thnik you are a thorn in anybodies side, the reasons for a lack
of response to specific posts are varied. I frequently get paranoid
that Im being ignored and am wasting my time, or that I am annoying
everyone excessively. Theres likely some truth to it, but Im easily
reassured.

The high volume of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally
harp on about forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this
list seems to have attracted many people to talk as much as is done
here. Its a shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this
place was a forum, people would be able to respond to links with a one
word prely such as 'cool'  without fear of anybody moaning, and the
original poster would have some feedback and a warm glow inside.

As for your format uqestion, well thats a nightmare too. Here are some
random thoughts on some of the stuff youve brought up:

Quicktime will work on the ipods, but the devil is in the detail, the
phrase quicktime doesnt actually describe fully what format the video
is in. 3ivx is still quicktime (undr most circumstances). The biggest
problem with quicktime is that you'll get some PC users without
quicktime complaining that they cant see stuff.

Flash is by far the most compatible, and is the closest thing to a
video format that should work in most browsers on most operating
systems, and which most people already have installed. If many users
cant see flash video thats been done properly, theres not much hope.
Perhaps theres something weird about how youtube do it?

Its all a nightmare really, Id agree. Some of the best bits of the
blog phenomenon, ease of publishing and viewing, are not so easy with
video. Plenty of hurdles, plenty of areas for a nerd like me to waste
a whole ear on exploring, and still only really scratch the surface.

It will get easier with time, and it sounds like you've had some bad
luck as well, some of the things you say dont work, really should work
 under most circumstances. That only makes things more frustrating
when it fails though.

Id be happy to look at any of your examples of videos that arent
working right for some people, in whatever format, to see if I can
answer the specific problems in your case. Personally if I was making
a site that should be easily accessible to all, id use flash video for
people using browser, and have .mp4 versions of the videos available
via feed. 

Steve of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so
far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve
become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response
at all.
> 
> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format. 
I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told
that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. 
Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods
and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that
they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube uses
flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with creating
imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen.  Then
Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash
formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my windows media
viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem
viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by
some, not by all.
> 
> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to
watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best
way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about
seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My
boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several
formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer.
> 
> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried
everything and nothing works consistently.
> 
> I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting
anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god
have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come
up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't
view your videos."
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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread anonperson1969
The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no consistancy.  
There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc) and multiple 
CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, xvid, divx, 
etc)... and NONE of them have become common.

Audio is pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing 
anytime soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or 
whatever.  Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think 
it ever will.

No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's going to 
be someone who can't see it.  That's just the sad truth.  So you're 
choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force your viewers to 
download the appropriate player  2) encode your video in as many 
formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers enough 
people.

People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most computers (have I seen 
the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a day from people who 
don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're on company 
workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. 

If the goal is purely "reaching as many people as possible"... I'd 
encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a 
Flash .FLV.  If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to 
upgrade.

-Terry
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[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread LeanBackVids.com
We use Quicktime with single-pass 3ivx...  It works for people who
have QT 6 or higher and Bre showed us our videos on his video iPod.

Our latest (theme-based) vlog has more viewers that are non-vloggers
than vloggers and none of them have ever complained about our format.

I too was confused why there was so much fuss over the video iPod
format, but it sounds like MPEG4 (or 3ivx) is fine.

-Matt
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so
far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve
become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response
at all.
> 
> But my big frustration is in trying to find a format.  Any format. 
I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told
that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. 
Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods
and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint that
they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You Tube uses
flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with creating
imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen.  Then
Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash
formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my windows media
viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem
viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by
some, not by all.
> 
> For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to
watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best
way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about
seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My
boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several
formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer.
> 
> I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried
everything and nothing works consistently.
> 
> I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not like I'm posting
anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  And my god
have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come
up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't
view your videos."
> 
> -- 
> Bev
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> Journal:  http://funnytheworld.com
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[videoblogging] the continuing frustration

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





I really rarely read this group any more because 
(a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I 
suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any 
response at all.
 
But my big frustration is in trying to find a 
format.  Any format.  I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't 
see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting 
in QuickTime.  Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the 
new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did.  Now some people complaint 
that they can't see those.  I post to both Blip and YouTube.  You 
Tube uses flash.  Some can see it, some can't.  Nerissa helped me with 
creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen.  
Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash 
formats, one of which I can't see.  I've upgraded my windows media 
viewer.  I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing 
the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by 
all.
 
For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen 
who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is 
the best way to go?  I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic 
about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash.  My 
boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, 
none of which he is able to access from his computer.
 
I have studied all of Josh's excellent training 
videos and tried everything and nothing works 
consistently.
 
I am so confused and so frustrated.  It's not 
like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else.  
And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come 
up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your 
videos."
 
-- BevBlog:  http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal:  
http://funnytheworld.com
 
 

  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread Eric Rice
I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are 
amateur radio 
operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the 
most bizarre 
analogy I've ever seen yet.

Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-)

ER


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ...
> but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime
> in ... :-)
> 
> Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been
> operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long
> long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times
> vital) component in emergency/disaster communications.
> 
> ok .. now back to the topic (I think).
> 
> I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as
> Vlogging is to TV.
> 
> VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world
> without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio
> operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have.
> 
> One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham
> Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random
> conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great.
> It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals
> worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of
> things ... but it was great.
> 
> Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P
> 
> The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact
> anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route
> Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA!
> 
> Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P
> 
> Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling
> numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated
> communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there
> was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably)
> was hard to ignore.
> 
> Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models
> and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and
> engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more
> of the world.
> 
> Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but
> nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have
> changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but
> HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they
> have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect
> long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP
> chat room).
> 
> The same will happen with media I think.
> 
> Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be
> more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs
> (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream
> media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news
> and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their
> viewers).
> 
> People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging
> scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled
> HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-)
> 
> Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is
> bound to come.
> 
> ... I think I found the point there?? ...
> 
> - Dave
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] "blogging != CB radio" & "the end times"

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade



well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than
CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM
Radio) I'll chime in ...  :-)

Let me first speak to the slightly OT part:  Yeah HAM operators
have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well
a long long long long long time.   Ham Radio has always been
an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster
communications.

ok .. now back to the topic (I think).

I've kinda thought of it this way in my head:   VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV.

VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world
without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio
operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have.  

One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of
Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a
random conversation and share ideas with people all over the
world.  It was great.  It required a license and to learn
Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an
antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was
great.

Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger.  :-P

The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact
anywhere ... even in your car.  HAMs would set up auto-patches to
route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA!

Today ... we all have cell phones.  :-P

Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already
dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed
and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over
the world.  Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but
the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore.

Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue
models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a
new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by
more and more of the world.

Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to
change, but nobody was likely to go extinct.  Ham Radio license
requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has
been reallocated - but HAMs are still around.  Hams still use
auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone).  Hams
still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even
though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room).

The same will happen with media I think.

Some vloggers will move more mainstream.  Some mainstream will
move to be more vloggish.  Vloggers will have to deal with more
and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new
potential viewers).  Mainstream media will have to deal with the
fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand
(and the expectation that will set in their viewers).

People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging
scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled
HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-)

Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is bound to come.

 ... I think I found the point there?? ...

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Re: [videoblogging] oopps i did it again, any one got any ideas?

2005-11-21 Thread Jay dedman
> any one haveany idea what this means??
>   There were errors. (Hide details ...)
> 004 dk.eos.net.FtpError: Please login with your SITE name as your USER
> its on blogger i am so stuck
> livefromlowell.blogspot.com

hey randy--

what were you doing when this happened?
just logging in?
it may have just been a temporary glitch in the blogger servers.

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Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread andrew michael baron
Ok, well maybe this fresh attack comes in the hopes that you would  
get me to breakdown and defend myself again. All I can say then is  
that technically, your logic is not applicable because you make it  
seem as though I have been hitting you or something. All I said to  
you Verdi is that you are a pro at ripping a sentence fragment out of  
context and even better than anyone at universalizing.

Lets take a look at how you broke into this post. Instead of being  
defensive, I just want to show how you entered into the conversation.  
As you can see below, its very aggressive, you were very guilty of  
universalizing and you assumed that it was you I was talking to all  
this time, a problem you may want to look more closely at since I had  
never mentioned you before this.

So again, here is how you entered into the thread out of left-field:


"Why is it that you seem to think that individuals that videoblog are
doing it in the pursuit of personal celebrity?  Why can't they be
doing it to document their lives or to connect with friends and
family?  Are you saying that anyone who publishes a blog, podcast or
videoblog that contains information about their lives is aiming for
personal celebrity?  Is that what you're doing at dembot.com?  Or,
playing devil's advocate, couldn't someone make a case that
Rocketboom is a vehicle to enhance Amanda's personal celebrity
thereby hopefully producing offers of acting jobs?  It seems to me
that you throw around these comments (this one and others in the
past) about individuals videoblogging as if what they (we) are doing
is less valid, less bloggy, and now, it seems, to advance our own
personal celebrity as if we were some scheming college student trying
to get picked for the next Real World cast.
Verdi"





Verdi's first weigh in on the police post



On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Verdi wrote:
>
> Okay, let me try again.  For those of you who don't know, I'm not
> against Rocketboom or the idea of creating a videoblogging "show."
> Earlier this year I spent a month working on Rocketboom as the
> editor.  Also, sometime early 2006 you may just see a "show" from
> me.  That being said, what I take exception to is what David has
> pointed out - Andrew's statements.
>
> Now Andrew, you may feel that I've got it all out of context and that
> you didn't mean those things that way.

Yep.

> Let me just tell you that I
> and others read them, the way they are worded, as dismissive and
> patronizing.

Out of context.

> Again you may "think" we have it wrong but that doesn't
> change the words.

Nope.

> You can think of it like this:  Let's say you
> accidentally hit me and say, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you."

Yep.

> I'd respond, "no problem, it's okay."  Then let's say it happens
> again.

If it did.

> This time I might ask you to be more careful.

If you were thinking.

> Then let's say
> it happens a third time.

Three times hu? Wow, strike out.

> Now I might start to think something is
> up.
Might you?

> I might start to think that you really mean to hit me even
> though you claim that you "didn't mean it."  At some point, after
> this has gone on a half dozen or so times, I'd get pretty pissed
> off.

Why wait that long to get upset is someone hit you that many times?  
But you said "you". Who are we talking about me?


> I'd start to defend myself.

So now you understand defense.

> I might even hit back.

I wouldnt mean to hit back, but yea, you can understand where that  
comes from.

> See, just
> blaming me for not understanding that your intent is different than
> your words just doesn't cut it.

Who ever blamed you? I just said I didnt want to see you naked. Thats  
the extent of any criticsm I have had for you. You must be assuming I  
think about you a lot and refer to you when I speak out. Not the case.

>
> -Verdi
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[videoblogging] Introducing myself

2005-11-21 Thread seniorjoze
Howdy all, I'd like to introduce myself...

My name is Jose Hernandez, I am from San Luis Obispo, living in San
Francisco. I just started a collaborative Vlog with some friends to
distribute our old work and p;ay with some new ideas, its called  
http://burntwire.tv
and my personal site is 
http://jozecuervo.com
You can find me on MySpace and a plethora of other networks. I work in
R&D for an instant messaging company called MECA that has recently
taken interest in podcast and vlog content, among other things. That
said, I'm a vlog producer, developer and consumer and I'm listening to
what you al have to say. I even bought an fancy video iPod, just to
test this stuff out.

So here I am, I just got back from last weeks portable media expo. Met
some cool folks from Feedburner, libsyn, odeo, audioblog, etc. Started
running into the OG vloggers Eric Rice (was at the expo), Michael
Meiser (on technorati), Ryanne (dropped her a line). 

I am really curious about the hosting, syndication and distribution
solutions people have been using, I am about to break my 30GB  monthly
bandwidth limit and am looking into free services ourmedia and blip TV
as well as pay services audioblog.com and libsyn.com 

here's my current process:

http://burntwire.tv/images/production.jpg

1. I export from final cut or premeire as a Mpeg4, 320x240 progressive
video clip. I then allow quicktime pro to SLOWLY transcode to the
"export to iPod" H.264 format. My primary goal is to get clips onto
the iPod and I have been happy with the results of the encoding,
though they are large. 

2 Currently I am uploading each clip to my mediatemple shared server
account. They give me 2gb/30gb and 6 domains. I use them for a few
clients and my own sites. 

3. I then post the copy I get from the episode's contributor. Other
than title/description, there is other meta-data that I can place into
the body of a blog post. I would really love a tag system for doing
this kind of thing.

4. Blogger generates my ATOM which is then piped into feedburner,
which generates my eclosures and tacks on some itunes namespace goodness.

5. I then go into mefeedia to manually enter everything again.

As of last night I have been uploading into blip.tv also. I am
considering posting all of my existing work to blip and then switching
the feed source in feedbuner. I would ideally like the ultimate level
of customizability, like the ability to split the feed into
subchannels, since I have so many different types of content coming at
me. Libsyn offers that feature.

Anyone have any srong opinions about blip or libsyn or audioblog?

My second area of inquisiton is file format. I've had several
complaints about the current format. I would like to offer a second
format, and possibly a second feed for people who cannot view H.264. A
friend mentioned that if I import H.264 into flash, I can only export
to the Flash8 player. That makes me want to shy away from flash at
this time. I guess my question is, what are some good lowest common
denominator cross-platform formats? I'd like to his OS9 and windows
media 6.4... I'm guessing MPEG-1 is the way to go. 

Any thoughts peeps?





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Steve Garfield wrote:
> Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped 
> using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old 
> podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives.
> 
> http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from.

And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well:

  http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/

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Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread Verdi
On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:14 AM, andrew michael baron wrote:

> I still don't see any justification for all the backlash against  
> Amanda and myself right now.

On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:25 PM, David Meade wrote:
> I'm not sure what backlash you are getting Andrew, but I think Verdi
> is taking exception to statements not format / content.

Okay, let me try again.  For those of you who don't know, I'm not  
against Rocketboom or the idea of creating a videoblogging "show."   
Earlier this year I spent a month working on Rocketboom as the  
editor.  Also, sometime early 2006 you may just see a "show" from  
me.  That being said, what I take exception to is what David has  
pointed out - Andrew's statements.

Now Andrew, you may feel that I've got it all out of context and that  
you didn't mean those things that way.  Let me just tell you that I  
and others read them, the way they are worded, as dismissive and  
patronizing.  Again you may "think" we have it wrong but that doesn't  
change the words.  You can think of it like this:  Let's say you  
accidentally hit me and say, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you."   
I'd respond, "no problem, it's okay."  Then let's say it happens  
again.  This time I might ask you to be more careful.  Then let's say  
it happens a third time.  Now I might start to think something is  
up.  I might start to think that you really mean to hit me even  
though you claim that you "didn't mean it."  At some point, after  
this has gone on a half dozen or so times, I'd get pretty pissed  
off.  I'd start to defend myself.  I might even hit back.  See, just  
blaming me for not understanding that your intent is different than  
your words just doesn't cut it.

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Garfield
I want to see a videoblog interview

Reporting live from Viale Abruzzi 83 20131 Milano (MI) ...

On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you?


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Re: [videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1

2005-11-21 Thread Brad Webb
This is from my (foggy) memory, but isn't it their "HDV" format, or is 
that simply hypespeak for mpeg2?

Allen_Weiner wrote:

>For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, 
>what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, 
>but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format.
>
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[videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1

2005-11-21 Thread Allen_Weiner
For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, 
what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, 
but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format.

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Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread David Meade
I think the source of frustration is that historical posts (on both
sides of the fence) seem to justify their choice of audience by
implying it is somehow superior to others.  That's not really the case
... they are just different options.

The frustration comes when posts imply that a vlog is either boring
and not palatable to the masses (as if appealing to the masses is a
required aspect to any worthy vlog), or that it's just the
same-old-same-old corporate-esk mass media content put up on the web
... That the creators of vlogs are either mundane folks who just don't
get the potential of the medium they are using, or they are
opportunistic corporate-like entities not at all interested in the
intimacy vlogging can provide.   Both are extremes and not reality ...
but both have been implied on both sides of the content debate (and
just because someone cant find a word-for-word statement of something
doesn't mean it cant be or hasn't been implied).

Of course vloggers understand the medium.  We needn't confuse the fact
that they aren't of earth shacking importance or bound to be wildly
popular as 'not getting it' ... that's a choice they've made. They're
ok with knowing that at best 5 people are going to chuckle as they
film themselves brushing their teeth.  They get it.  They get it just
fine.  They don't need to be popular, or have a point, or care about
either to be exactly on target.

On the flip side of the coin ... Rocketboom is great.  No it doesn't
foster the intimacy required to make brushing your teeth interesting
... but that doesn't make it any less valuable. Yes it can be
'entertaining' to a far wider group of people than a personal-journal
vlog ... but that doesn't make it any more valuable.

RB is designed to reach a very wide audience.  It uses a proven format
that many people can immediately warm up to and enjoy.  And the fact
that this is exactly what has  happened does not make it evil, and it
does not make it a more valid format of vlog ... it's simply the
result of a more themed based vlog.

I'm not sure what backlash you are getting Andrew, but I think Verdi
is taking exception to statements not format / content.

"Its not really the world's fault that more people respond to content
that is intended to be
entertaining."

Just try to remember that the above quote is mis-leading.  the
corrected version is:

"Its not really the world's fault that more people respond to content
that is intended to be
entertaining *to the masses*."

Some vlogs are only aiming to be 'entertaining' to
friends/family/random-like-minded-people.  Your original quote implies
that personal vlogs are something they are not ... or rather are not
something that they are.

They are in fact meant to be entertainig ... to a very select group. 
The are responded to - quite well often  ... by a small and intimate
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[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread Steve Watkins
Defensiveness is what its all about, what makes it hard to discuss
these sorts of issues without people falling out.

Some 'personal' videobloggers are on the defensive because of how the
big media voices have dismissed them. They put time and love into what
they do, it seems valid to them, and it may be that this stuff
incorporates the very elements of videoblogging that get them excited.

Likewise creators of show-type videoblogs may get defensive if people
dismiss their stuff as being pointless and too much like TV.

And then as soon as we get onto questioning peoples motives, the
defensive mechanisms really kick in. Shows are sellouts, only in it
for the money and personal vlogs are all bout the ego and self self
self. At best this is a grotesque oversimplification, and we all know
of many other reasons & motives why anybody would create anything, but
see how easy it is to tread all over peoples brains in a single
sentence. We're human, we are likely to form our own opinions of other
peoples motives, but its one thing to judge others and another to
declare your judgement publically, every day I struggle to keep such
opinions to myself, and fail quite often.

Because Rocketboom is arguably one of the most prominent shows of the
new web video era, when you or Amanda gets press and gets quoted or
give a speech, its going to get scrutinized more than if some nobody
like me starts ranting to myself. People who are dedicating much of
their lives to the personal videoblogging may be looking to you to
defend that stuff, or choose your words carefully, or not mention
personal vlogs at all, when in fact you are under no such obligation.
Likely many times you will have little choice but to enter this
territory, either because of the sorts of questions a journalist might
ask, or because of the realities of number of shows like rocketboom vs
number of personal vlogs. What you arent helps define what you are, so
I think its fair for you to say whatever you like about this stuff. 

We wont have a proper debate on this if we steer clear of anything
that could cause offense, but clearly its emotionally draining when
peeps do take things too seriously or get the hump about a specific
phrase someone used and then everyone wonders if its worth talking
about it at all. Clearly I ususally err on the side of making the
point at the risk of offending potentially everyone and having no
friends lol, so Im not best placed to advise on this.

Then there is the role of text in this affair. I think that after
nearly a year of farting around and not achieving anything, I might
finally decide what project to dedicate myself to, and that will be
more video-based communication systems. Ive waffled about video forums
before, and I know someone else has been working on this stuff, and
there are some existing options, and factors such as me finding it
easier to type these long messages than say them to a camera. But I
still want a War on Text, and threaded video conversations etc.

Steve of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
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>
> On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Ronen wrote:
> > This is the funnest thread ever.
> >
> > Ronen
> 
> 
> I'm feeling like I have a major hangover and don't really think its  
> funny at all, especially because I don't drink. I apologize for being  
> offensive, it's what I always do whenever I get REALLY defensive. I  
> have been on the defense for a long time from the likes of many  
> outspoken characters involved in this play. I get defensive when I  
> dont see any reason behind malicious claims being propagated around  
> so unwittingly. I still don't see any justification for all the  
> backlash against Amanda and myself right now.
> 
> Anyway, from here on out, I'll just stick to asking technical  
> questions and answering a few when no one else does because I'm just  
> not going to let it get to me anymore.
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[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread LeanBackVids.com
I find this hilarious too.  Isn't this just the result of defending
existing and potential personal celebrity status?

We may need to start our very own gossip magazine or celebrity death
match. HA!

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Deirdre Straughan



Try writing to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They seem to own the videospider.it domain, though there are no credits
on that site (as no doubt you found). If they are actually running the
site, it seems to be a departure for them - so far their other sites
all look like erotica of various sorts. They also write books. And they
most assuredly speak English, so should be able to respond to your
questions as to why they are abusing your CC license.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)
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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:51:06 +0100, Deirdre Straughan  
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> LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go
> beat them up for you?

Only if you videoblog it!

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Re: [videoblogging] Videospider

2005-11-21 Thread Deirdre Straughan



LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you?domain:  videospider.itorg: BERBERA & HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc
descr:   Viale Abruzzi 83descr:   20131 Milano (MI)admin-c: MS6743-ITNICtech-c:  MS6743-ITNICpostmaster:  MS6743-ITNICzone-c:  MS6743-ITNICnserver: 
81.29.198.39 NS.STREAMER.NETnserver: 213.215.179.252 
NS2.STREAMER.NETmnt-by:  STREAMER-MNTcreated: 20040917expire:  20060913source:  IT-NICperson:  Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Viale Abruzzi 83
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[videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.

2005-11-21 Thread pouringdownpix
so, i offer this: 

http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/2005/11/home-sick.html

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Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread BevSykes





>>ah, you are assuming "cover" implies "licensed and royalties 
paid"that is *not* common usage for most people out side of the music 
industry perhapscertainly, lots of local bands claim to do "cover" songs, 
but they haven't cleared it or paid for itcheck a dictionary - most don't 
mention the payment part<<
 
I've been very fortunate with music.  I have 
both a daughter and a son in the industry, both of whom write and record music 
and I have a friend who is eager to have his music played, so I have three 
different royalty-free resources from which to draw.
 
(My daughter and I are going to collaborate on a 
video at some point--I'll do the video and send it to her and she'll compose the 
music for that specific video.  She teaches at Berklee College of Music in 
Boston, so has musicians and recording equipment at her disposal.  I knew I 
raised 'em right.!)
 
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Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Brad Webb
If they're doing them live, at a venue, the venue will have a mechanical 
license (well, supposed to, obviously)


Markus Sandy wrote:

> ah, you are assuming "cover" implies "licensed and royalties paid"
> that is *not* common usage for most people out side of the music 
> industry perhaps
> certainly, lots of local bands claim to do "cover" songs, but they 
> haven't cleared it or paid for it
> check a dictionary - most don't mention the payment part
>
>
> Brad Webb wrote:
>
>>Actually, no, you just have to pay royalties. Copyright specifically 
>>allows for cover usage and spells out it's royalty structure.
>>
>>Markus Sandy wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>that's still a copyright violation (i.e., "happy birthday to you ...")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ronen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which 
opens up a world of possibilites.  (I'm noticing the rocketboom 
version seems a cover)

On 11/21/05, *Ronen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music
in friday's rocketboom, to great effect.

The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it
makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been
doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no
one will notice).  I seriousely don't know which is more
effective.  Any ideas/thoughts on the subject?

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Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is
legal to use
mainstream music in videos.

And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we
identify the companies that allow us to use their music in
their videos?

Joan


 

  

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Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior

2005-11-21 Thread andrew michael baron


On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Ronen wrote:This is the funnest thread ever.RonenI'm feeling like I have a major hangover and don't really think its funny at all, especially because I don't drink. I apologize for being offensive, it's what I always do whenever I get REALLY defensive. I have been on the defense for a long time from the likes of many outspoken characters involved in this play. I get defensive when I dont see any reason behind malicious claims being propagated around so unwittingly. I still don't see any justification for all the backlash against Amanda and myself right now.Anyway, from here on out, I'll just stick to asking technical questions and answering a few when no one else does because I'm just not going to let it get to me anymore.

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos

2005-11-21 Thread Markus Sandy






ah, you are assuming "cover" implies "licensed and royalties paid"
that is *not* common usage for most people out side of the music
industry perhaps
certainly, lots of local bands claim to do "cover" songs, but they
haven't cleared it or paid for it
check a dictionary - most don't mention the payment part


Brad Webb wrote:

  Actually, no, you just have to pay royalties. Copyright specifically 
allows for cover usage and spells out it's royalty structure.

Markus Sandy wrote:

  
  
that's still a copyright violation (i.e., "happy birthday to you ...")



Ronen wrote:



  If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which 
opens up a world of possibilites.  (I'm noticing the rocketboom 
version seems a cover)

On 11/21/05, *Ronen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music
in friday's rocketboom, to great effect.

The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it
makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been
doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no
one will notice).  I seriousely don't know which is more
effective.  Any ideas/thoughts on the subject?

Ronen
cinemalog.net 


On 11/21/05, *Khoo, Joan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is
legal to use
mainstream music in videos.

And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we
identify the companies that allow us to use their music in
their videos?

Joan



  

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