[videoblogging] Re: call it a podcast or a vlog?

[Bill Shackelford]

lol.. I will go with 'podcast' or make up a new word classify my feed :)

- Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh this old chestnut, not everyone likes to think their show is a  
> videoblog or vlog, some have dragged themselves from the audio and  
> make video podcasts instead, since portable media players such as  
> ipods and alike came out its made it possible for vlogs and video  
> podcasts and indeed vblogs (another term for vlog).  When you sign up  
> for a feedburner account it asks you 'are you a podcaster' due to  
> podcaster coming from the audio side a  few weeks before people  
> started using video.  Some people prefer audio podcasting, as we are  
> pretend or Virtual TV stars, they are Virtual or pretend Radio Stars.
> 
> Evolution of Web 2.0..Blog...Photoblogaudio  
> podcastingvideo blogging, v-blog, video podcaster. what next? 
> (what ever happened to those virtual reality machines?)
> 
> there we go the history of words in a nutshell.
> 
> Paul
> On 20 Feb 2007, at 03:58, Bill Shackelford wrote:
> 
> > What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a  
> > 'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter?
> > Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] call it a podcast or a vlog?

[Paul Knight]

Oh this old chestnut, not everyone likes to think their show is a  
videoblog or vlog, some have dragged themselves from the audio and  
make video podcasts instead, since portable media players such as  
ipods and alike came out its made it possible for vlogs and video  
podcasts and indeed vblogs (another term for vlog).  When you sign up  
for a feedburner account it asks you 'are you a podcaster' due to  
podcaster coming from the audio side a  few weeks before people  
started using video.  Some people prefer audio podcasting, as we are  
pretend or Virtual TV stars, they are Virtual or pretend Radio Stars.

Evolution of Web 2.0..Blog...Photoblogaudio  
podcastingvideo blogging, v-blog, video podcaster. what next? 
(what ever happened to those virtual reality machines?)

there we go the history of words in a nutshell.

Paul
On 20 Feb 2007, at 03:58, Bill Shackelford wrote:

> What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a  
> 'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter?
> Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)
>
>
> 



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[videoblogging] Re: call it a podcast or a vlog?

[Gena]

Bill, the short answer is "anything you want to" This has to rank as
one of the most contentious questions the group deals with from time
to time. Last I heard the following terms were/have been used:

vlog
vidcast
vidpodcast
podcast
v-cast
vodcast
video
internet tv
internet video
web video on a blog

and there are a few more that I have blocked from my short term
memory. All the above terms have specific meaning to the user and some
are inclusive and others are exclusive (in my opinion). 

Like vodcast (video on demand casting) I don't know. It sounds
corporate to me but a vlog that is something I'll check out. User
friendly as opposed to regurgitated.

I don't care what you can it just so I can see the results.

Gena

http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Shackelford"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a
'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter? 
> Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)
>

[videoblogging] call it a podcast or a vlog?

[Bill Shackelford]

What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a 'podcast' or a 
'vlog'? Does it matter? 
Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)

[videoblogging] NYC meet up

[Jay dedman]

Markus, Ryanne, and I will be in NYC this week.
Thursday-Sunday.
we'll be running a workshop at the NYC Grassroots Film Festival:
http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/2007/02/nyc_grassroots_.html
Everyone is welcome to the event. Be a good place to share the knowledge.

Anyway...we'd love to have a meet up of videoboggers while we're in town.
I was thinking the evening of Sunday, Feb 25
Would that work for everyone?

Jay

-- 
Here I am
http://jaydedman.com

RE: [videoblogging] Re: thoughts on this?

[Robyn Tippins]

Ha ha, thanks Bill, I thought I was finally getting it right.  Darn.

 

Robyn

 

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:43 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: thoughts on this?

 

--- In videoblogging@ 
yahoogroups.com, "Robyn Tippins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
http://www.marketin
 gvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-fi
> nd-enough-online-video/?rss1 >

note for the group: using <> only works on long addresses if they're
both flush against the edges of the url with no spaces.


gvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-find-enough-online-vi
deo/?rss1>

> 
> Advertisers Seek but Can't Find Enough Online Video
> 
> Despite marketers' desire to buy ads within online video, they are
having a
> tough time expanding into the format, reports
> 
com/digital/article?article_id=115049> Advertising
Age.  http://adage. 
com/digital/article?article_id=115049 >
> 
> Interested buyers are reportedly saying limited inventory, specifically
> content created exclusively for the web, is one factor that's
holding them
> back. Also, the audience for web video is, to date, too fragmented
to meet
> the needs of buyers looking for significant reach. The lack of a single
> model for the buying and accounting of video ads is also cited as a
> contributing factor.

I agree with all three of those points. The inventory is very limited
as far as content that they can use for their purposes. It's not that
there aren't tons of videos. There aren't tons of videos that they
feel they can guarantee a ROI on.

Part of the reason for that is #2, that the audience is too
fragmented. People that frequent youtube are the main audience for
youtube videos, but not necessarily any other videos. Same thing for
Revver. Same thing for DailyMotion, etc. There's too much selection
to be able to guarantee that a certain number of eyeballs are going to
be on such-and-such video. If you can't guarantee the viewers, you
can't persuade the companies to buy advertisements on those videos for
any worthwhile amount of money.

Even if you could guarantee the eyeballs (views), there are a lot of
different ways to place ads on or around videos. There's no guarantee
that if someone sees the ad, they're going to click on it. If it's a
post-roll ad, there's no guarantee the person's going to watch the
video all the way to the end. Except in a very few cases, most of
which we know about already, there's nothing that will allow
advertisers to justify making the deals they want to make.

Even if you have the eyeballs on a video, there's no way to quantify
the demographics. If a video gets 100 views and 50 of them were from
8-year-olds with no buying power and no interest in clicking on
lawnmower ads after watching a video of a kid falling off of a
skateboard, the client isn't getting ROI, and the advertiser isn't
doing his/her job properly.

A lot of the behind-the-scenes of television is testing. 
Understanding the demographics. Understanding what group is likely to
watch your show from 8-8:30pm on Tuesday night. If you know a bunch
of 30-somethings are watching syndicated Seinfeld episodes (from the
data you collected in testing), you know who to go to to sell
advertising time... the companies that have products to sell to
30-somethings. You can't do that [yet] with the internet, because
there's no telling who's using what computer, and there's no telling
how many times that same person watched the same video. With
television, you know how many people watched the shows because they
all have accounts with the cable company. Maybe they all have special
boxes that take account of when they watch what and report it back to
a particular agency.

If you can't quantify the audience, you can't justify the $$,$$$
expenditure to your client. No sale. The reason Super Bowl ads are
so important is because so many people are GUARANTEED to be watching.
The ROI on the money spent on A) creating the ad, and B) buying the
air-time right before Prince performs live makes the whole proposition
worthwhile for everyone involved.

> The dollars for online video buying are expected to come from television
> budgets, but until the online audience expands some marketers appear
> unwilling to make that shift. Estimates have buyers spending just 10
percent
> of their TV budget on streaming video by 2010, with most of that
money going
> toward professional content from mainstream media.

That's where your Joost and other companies come in. You can watch
"television" w

[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

[Len Edgerly]

I just bought an Xacti CG6, not actually available yet in the US, but  
I was able to get one through http://www.warehouse123.com which sold  
it to me for $348 plus shipping and included an extra battery.  The  
CG6 has much better sound quality than the C5 which I purchased last  
summer (and now will be sending off to an EBay auction), and the  
video quality is pretty damn good. I am very pleased with this  
camera, which even comes in nice colors--I've got a blue one.  It  
even has a port for headphones, although you can't monitor the audio  
while recording; it's only for playback.
--Len
-
Len Edgerly, Denver
www.LenEdgerly.com
www.VideoPodChronicles.com
www.AudioPodChronicles.com
Skype: LenEdgerly   cell: 303-919-7187




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[videoblogging] Re: thoughts on this?

[Bill Cammack]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Robyn Tippins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> 
> 
http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-fi
> nd-enough-online-video/?rss1 >


note for the group:  using <> only works on long addresses if they're
both flush against the edges of the url with no spaces.



> 
> Advertisers Seek but Can't Find Enough Online Video
> 
> Despite marketers' desire to buy ads within online video, they are
having a
> tough time expanding into the format, reports
>   Advertising
Age.  http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049 >
> 
> Interested buyers are reportedly saying limited inventory, specifically
> content created exclusively for the web, is one factor that's
holding them
> back. Also, the audience for web video is, to date, too fragmented
to meet
> the needs of buyers looking for significant reach. The lack of a single
> model for the buying and accounting of video ads is also cited as a
> contributing factor.


I agree with all three of those points.  The inventory is very limited
as far as content that they can use for their purposes.  It's not that
there aren't tons of videos.  There aren't tons of videos that they
feel they can guarantee a ROI on.

Part of the reason for that is #2, that the audience is too
fragmented.  People that frequent youtube are the main audience for
youtube videos, but not necessarily any other videos.  Same thing for
Revver.  Same thing for DailyMotion, etc.  There's too much selection
to be able to guarantee that a certain number of eyeballs are going to
be on such-and-such video.  If you can't guarantee the viewers, you
can't persuade the companies to buy advertisements on those videos for
any worthwhile amount of money.

Even if you could guarantee the eyeballs (views), there are a lot of
different ways to place ads on or around videos.  There's no guarantee
that if someone sees the ad, they're going to click on it.  If it's a
post-roll ad, there's no guarantee the person's going to watch the
video all the way to the end.  Except in a very few cases, most of
which we know about already, there's nothing that will allow
advertisers to justify making the deals they want to make.

Even if you have the eyeballs on a video, there's no way to quantify
the demographics.  If a video gets 100 views and 50 of them were from
8-year-olds with no buying power and no interest in clicking on
lawnmower ads after watching a video of a kid falling off of a
skateboard, the client isn't getting ROI, and the advertiser isn't
doing his/her job properly.

A lot of the behind-the-scenes of television is testing. 
Understanding the demographics.  Understanding what group is likely to
watch your show from 8-8:30pm on Tuesday night.  If you know a bunch
of 30-somethings are watching syndicated Seinfeld episodes (from the
data you collected in testing), you know who to go to to sell
advertising time... the companies that have products to sell to
30-somethings.  You can't do that [yet] with the internet, because
there's no telling who's using what computer, and there's no telling
how many times that same person watched the same video.  With
television, you know how many people watched the shows because they
all have accounts with the cable company.  Maybe they all have special
boxes that take account of when they watch what and report it back to
a particular agency.

If you can't quantify the audience, you can't justify the $$,$$$
expenditure to your client.  No sale.  The reason Super Bowl ads are
so important is because so many people are GUARANTEED to be watching.
 The ROI on the money spent on A) creating the ad, and B) buying the
air-time right before Prince performs live makes the whole proposition
worthwhile for everyone involved.

> The dollars for online video buying are expected to come from television
> budgets, but until the online audience expands some marketers appear
> unwilling to make that shift. Estimates have buyers spending just 10
percent
> of their TV budget on streaming video by 2010, with most of that
money going
> toward professional content from mainstream media.


That's where your Joost and other companies come in.  You can watch
"television" without having a television.  Choose your channels and
watch video on demand.  The same old thing in a new wrapper with some
value added like chatting and rating and making your own search channels.

> Bolt Media CEO Aaron Cohen says if independent producers are going
to tap
> into serious advertising dollars, there needs to be effective
syndication of
> content that can bring audience reach to niche videos.


Aaron had some interesting things to say @ last month's NY Video 2.0
meetup: 

> Even so, the lack of a universal rating and measurement models
continues to
> be a stumb

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Jay dedman]

> And you're missing that anyone can load up the plugin on a wordpress blog
>  and start their own project on a moments notice - forget about HMWV and the
>  advocates group. Half of the point is to show that it can be done so others
>  can replicate it.

The point of HMWV is not to be elitist...but to provide a particular filter.
let's not focus too much on technology here.
The idea is that people who donate to HMWV trust that the current
volunteers have done the research and preparation to know that the
current project is solid.

as any HMWV volunteer knows, its not just posting a project.
Its emailing people, spreading the word, etc
(http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2007/02/19/supporting-journalism/)
I personally find that finding good well-thought out projects is the
hardest part of all.

Devlon created Pledge Drive because at the time we weren't cool with
the current crop of funding sites. they've mushroomed now...
Pledge Drive also doesnt take any cut of the donated money. It's just
a direct link between creator and donor. A glorified paypal button.

If anyone would like to help us find and promote ambitious
videoblogging projects...you can volunteer your time and "social
capital" here:
http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates

Jay

-- 
Here I am
http://jaydedman.com

[videoblogging] thoughts on this?

[Robyn Tippins]

 

http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-fi
nd-enough-online-video/?rss1 >

 

Advertisers Seek but Can't Find Enough Online Video

Despite marketers' desire to buy ads within online video, they are having a
tough time expanding into the format, reports
  Advertising Age. http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049 >

Interested buyers are reportedly saying limited inventory, specifically
content created exclusively for the web, is one factor that's holding them
back. Also, the audience for web video is, to date, too fragmented to meet
the needs of buyers looking for significant reach. The lack of a single
model for the buying and accounting of video ads is also cited as a
contributing factor.

The dollars for online video buying are expected to come from television
budgets, but until the online audience expands some marketers appear
unwilling to make that shift. Estimates have buyers spending just 10 percent
of their TV budget on streaming video by 2010, with most of that money going
toward professional content from mainstream media.

Bolt Media CEO Aaron Cohen says if independent producers are going to tap
into serious advertising dollars, there needs to be effective syndication of
content that can bring audience reach to niche videos.

Even so, the lack of a universal rating and measurement models continues to
be a stumbling block to advertisers who need to justify their expenditures. 

 



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Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

[Irina]

yeah i wanna hear what they like about YouTube

On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>   Cool. I'd love to see videos Schlomo.
>
> I'd love to hear people wax poetic about why they love youtube.
>
> Especially since I'm an old foggy and don't get these new kids. :)
>
> Consider it ethnography
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On 2/19/07, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> > I had a really good time.
> >
> > Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and
> talked
> > YouTube with a bunch of folks.
> >
> > They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
> > everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.
> >
> > Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there. Met
> a
> > bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the
> poop
> > about what they love about YouTube. Did a couple interviews that I'll be
> > putting up later.
> >
> > Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
> > push a certain groups together in the same room. Plans are a-coming.
> >
> > Schlomo
> > http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> > http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
> > http://hatfactory.net
> > http://evilvlog.com
> >
> >
> > On 2/19/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> > >
> > > did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
> > > http://tinyurl.com/36yefy
> > > Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.
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[videoblogging] Re: The audience of ten

[Steve Watkins]

Do youtube groups count as this sort of thing? And things like the
Organic Groups stuff for Drupal.  

Yahoo groups and similar are more than just direct speaking through
email, in the sense that the messages are on the web too and can be
set to be fully public, as with this group.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/19/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can make blogger blogs "public" or accessable only by
"authors" or by
> > "only people I choose".
> >
> > Is that enough?
> 
> No, not good enough. I think the closes we've come is yahoo groups, or
> flickr groups. You can invite a bunch of members and speak directly to
> them. Email.
> 
> I need to keep thinking about it.
> 
> -Mike

Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

[Mike Meiser]

On 2/19/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can make blogger blogs "public" or accessable only by "authors" or by
> "only people I choose".
>
> Is that enough?

No, not good enough. I think the closes we've come is yahoo groups, or
flickr groups. You can invite a bunch of members and speak directly to
them. Email.

I need to keep thinking about it.

-Mike

> Jan
>
> On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on
> > "the
> > > audience of ten". To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
> > > friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
> > > point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to
> > get
> > > lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.
> > >
> > > My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel
> > "comfortable"
> > > with?
> > >
> > > Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only
> > want
> > > more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal
> > videoblog,
> > > suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.
> > >
> > > Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to
> > my
> > > feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
> > > goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
> > > referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
> > > linked to that).
> > >
> > > If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to
> > connect
> > > with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
> > > they leave nasty comments?
> > >
> > > Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
> > > internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: "If you don't
> > want
> > > certain people to find it, don't put it out there". That's simple. But
> > > still, we want to connect. Reach out.
> > >
> > > Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
> > > watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?
> > >
> > > Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal
> > stuff
> > > and more often going for the more "safe" forms of videoblogging?S
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
> > audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
> > producer is to them.
> >
> > I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
> > youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
> > subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
> > viewership completely transparent to each other.
> >
> > You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
> > othewise how would anyone be able to find you.
> >
> > You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
> > blacklist certain viewers.
> >
> > It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
> > exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.
> >
> > Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.
> >
> > What if you could "bless" certain subscribers with full access to your
> > personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
> > subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.
> >
> > This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.
> >
> > Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
> > and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
> > track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
> > comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
> > that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
> > by post person by person basis.
> >
> > Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
> > they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
> > perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
> > information not available to them.
> >
> > The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
> > explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
> > and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.
> >
> > Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.
> >
> > I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
> > idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
> > explicit personal communications and so called "shows" with audiences
> > in the hundreds of thousands even millions.
> >
> > I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
> > read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
> > 100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Mike Meiser]

On 2/19/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Mike,
>
> I remember finding PledgeBank.com.
> I mentioned it on the HMWV list:
> 

Funny, I must see if I'm subscribed to HMWV because I did a gmail
search and found no mention of it in past emails.

> I like your ideas and they are inline with what I was working towards over
> on fundavlog.com experiment which was to be a companion service to HMWV.
>
> As for why the Crowdfunding wikipedia article got renamed... this happened
> just the other day because the article was suddenly marked for deletion.
> Instead, another wikipedia user went ahead and redirected it to a new Name -
> P2P Funding, which I do not like either.  PeerFunding isnt bad.  I think
> Crowdfunding works just as Crowdsourcing works.  But Wikipedians are anal
> about new terms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism).

Well, it's certainly not P2P funding. Was there something artlcle
there before? How about I redirect it to crowdfunding.

You could move it over to the new videoblogging pbwiki. I think it's a
much better home for it. I'm not sure about the longevity of anything
that hasn't been googled about 100,000 times on wikipedia. Sooner or
later someone is going to get a bug up their wazoo for deleting it.

-Mike

> Though I have shifted focus since last summer (fundavlog), I still see much
> potential in these progressive types of fundraising experiments.

> Sull
>
>
> On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Howdy All,
> >
> > Was just doing some research on social capital and I stumbled upon
> > Pledgebank.com. Excitement ensues...
> >
> > It occurs to me that while it could be used as an even more open
> > alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog it could also be used quite
> > effectively in tandem with havemoneywillvlog.
> >
> > I'm extremely interested in the relationship of social capital and
> > economic capital. Which is to say the intangible combined assets of a
> > community such as trust, connectivity, etc, etc... and the
> > relationship between actual monetary capital.
> >
> > HaveMoneyWillVlog has been a great experiment. I wonder however if it
> > can't be replicated in a more distributed manner, and encourage more
> > creative, more fun... even a game like atmosphere.
> >
> > My thoughts are as follows... skip down further for a fun example of
> > how pledgebank and havemoneywillvlog might combine to create more
> > creative fundraising.
> >
> > 1) Pledgebank is extremely interesting because unlike
> > HaveMoneyWillVlog ANY enterprising person can take the initiative and
> > start a pledge of their choice. For example... "I'll pledge $1000 to X
> > project if 50 other people pledge $10 or more."
> >
> > In this means a whole organic model for fund raising may be created.
> > All a project needs is a great sponsor or patron to take the
> > initiative. Eventually expertise and best practices will evolve.
> >
> > In other words pledgebank is *flexible* enough and *open* enough to
> > handle wide experimentation necessary for innovation in this new field
> > of P2P funding.
> >
> > 2) Pledging to raise not just money but alternative "social capital"
> > for a project in the form of visibility, advertising, promotion, or
> > anything you can dream up.
> >
> > Projects can be promoted through distributed means... blogging, shared
> > banners, email... each one of these channels can signify the trust of
> > the person promting it truely reflecting the communities social
> > capital/trust/karma and buy in.
> >
> > Think of promoting a pledge as karma points (aka. whuffie, a Corey
> > Doctorow term, see wikipedia)... these links being a symbolic currency
> > of social capital, while that actual money is a the tangible
> > monetization of that capital In that way the correlation between
> > the two can be endlessly explored and capitalized on... explored to
> > the point of gaming.
> >
> > For example, "I'll pledge $1 to X project for everyone who blogs about
> > the project."
> >
> > This creative exploration between social capital and economic capital
> > could compound the effectiveness of campaigns to fund projects. :)
> >
> > Again... this is not something that can currently be done with the
> > rigid havemoneywillvlog alone... all one can do is donate... or blog
> > about donating... and that's no fun. :)
> >
> > 3) ownership... pledgebank, because anyone can get creative with
> > pledging, allows more sense of ownership and involvement, more buy in
> > from the community since members know they to can start pledges and
> > not just buy in or agreeing to the intial contract... but BUILD on it.
> > In essence getting creative with pledges can be a spirited part of
> > the game of fund raising itself keeping people involved in the process
> > until funding goals are met.
> >
> > 4) Transparency = following through. I've heard many say that people
> > often welch on their pledges... 

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Michael Verdi]

And you're missing that anyone can load up the plugin on a wordpress blog
and start their own project on a moments notice - forget about HMWV and the
advocates group. Half of the point is to show that it can be done so others
can replicate it.

- Verdi


On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   On 2/19/07, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hey Mike,
> > I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
> > sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
> > what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
> > and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
> > advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
> > and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
> > source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
> > anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
> > around any community that they wish.
> >
> > -Verdi
>
> Didn't realize it was open source. I should pay more attention.
>
> As for openess... I only meant by degree. And maybe opness is not the
> right term.
>
> Perhaps ease of intiating a project, or "barrier to entry". The
> point is HMWV uses a traditional editorial mechanism... as it must...
> because it has a very limited capacity... one project at a time...
> whereas anyone can go to PledgeBank and intiate a pledge in a moments
> notice. Apple's and oranges.
>
> It's really like comparing a newspaper and myspace. Even if the
> newspaper is run by an advocacy group.
>
> No negative connotations meant. I just meant to say we need MORE
> mechanisms like have money will vlog so we can have more
> experimentation.
>
> -Mike
>
> >
> > --
> > http://michaelverdi.com
> > http://spinxpress.com
> > http://freevlog.org
> > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  
>



-- 
http://michaelverdi.com
http://spinxpress.com
http://freevlog.org
Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Mike Meiser]

On 2/19/07, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Mike,
> I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
> sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
> what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
> and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
> advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
>  and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
> source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
> anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
> around any community that they wish.
>
> -Verdi

Didn't realize it was open source. I should pay more attention.

As for openess... I only meant by degree. And maybe opness is not the
right term.

Perhaps ease of intiating a project, or "barrier to entry".   The
point is HMWV uses a traditional editorial mechanism... as it must...
because it has a very limited capacity... one project at a time...
whereas anyone can go to PledgeBank and intiate a  pledge in a moments
notice.  Apple's and oranges.

It's really like comparing a newspaper and myspace.  Even if the
newspaper is run by an advocacy group.

No negative connotations meant. I just meant to say we need MORE
mechanisms like have money will vlog so we can have more
experimentation.

-Mike

>
> --
> http://michaelverdi.com
> http://spinxpress.com
> http://freevlog.org
> Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Michael Verdi]

Hey Mike,
I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
 and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
around any community that they wish.

-Verdi

-- 
http://michaelverdi.com
http://spinxpress.com
http://freevlog.org
Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs

Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

[groups-yahoo-com]

Cool. I'd love to see videos Schlomo.

I'd love to hear people wax poetic about why they love youtube.

Especially since I'm an old foggy and don't get these new kids. :)

Consider it ethnography

-Mike

On 2/19/07, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a really good time.
>
> Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and talked
> YouTube with a bunch of folks.
>
> They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
> everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.
>
> Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there.  Met a
> bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the poop
> about what they love about YouTube.  Did a couple interviews that I'll be
> putting up later.
>
> Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
> push a certain groups together in the same room.  Plans are a-coming.
>
> Schlomo
> http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
> http://hatfactory.net
> http://evilvlog.com
>
>
> On 2/19/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
> > http://tinyurl.com/36yefy
> > Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.
> >  
> >  Recent Activity
> >
> >-  17
> >New
> Members
> > -  2
> >New
> Links
> >
> >  Visit Your Group
> >
> 
> >  Give Back
> >
> > Yahoo! for
> Good
> >
> > Get inspired
> >
> > by a good cause.
> >  Y! Toolbar
> >
> > Get it
> Free!
> >
> > easy 1-click access
> >
> > to your groups.
> >  Yahoo! Groups
> >
> > Start a
> group
> >
> > in 3 easy steps.
> >
> > Connect with others.
> >   .
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[sull]

Hey Mike,

I remember finding PledgeBank.com.
I mentioned it on the HMWV list:


I like your ideas and they are inline with what I was working towards over
on fundavlog.com experiment which was to be a companion service to HMWV.

As for why the Crowdfunding wikipedia article got renamed... this happened
just the other day because the article was suddenly marked for deletion.
Instead, another wikipedia user went ahead and redirected it to a new Name -
P2P Funding, which I do not like either.  PeerFunding isnt bad.  I think
Crowdfunding works just as Crowdsourcing works.  But Wikipedians are anal
about new terms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism).

Though I have shifted focus since last summer (fundavlog), I still see much
potential in these progressive types of fundraising experiments.

Sull


On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Howdy All,
>
> Was just doing some research on social capital and I stumbled upon
> Pledgebank.com. Excitement ensues...
>
> It occurs to me that while it could be used as an even more open
> alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog it could also be used quite
> effectively in tandem with havemoneywillvlog.
>
> I'm extremely interested in the relationship of social capital and
> economic capital. Which is to say the intangible combined assets of a
> community such as trust, connectivity, etc, etc... and the
> relationship between actual monetary capital.
>
> HaveMoneyWillVlog has been a great experiment. I wonder however if it
> can't be replicated in a more distributed manner, and encourage more
> creative, more fun... even a game like atmosphere.
>
> My thoughts are as follows... skip down further for a fun example of
> how pledgebank and havemoneywillvlog might combine to create more
> creative fundraising.
>
> 1) Pledgebank is extremely interesting because unlike
> HaveMoneyWillVlog ANY enterprising person can take the initiative and
> start a pledge of their choice. For example... "I'll pledge $1000 to X
> project if 50 other people pledge $10 or more."
>
> In this means a whole organic model for fund raising may be created.
> All a project needs is a great sponsor or patron to take the
> initiative. Eventually expertise and best practices will evolve.
>
> In other words pledgebank is *flexible* enough and *open* enough to
> handle wide experimentation necessary for innovation in this new field
> of P2P funding.
>
> 2) Pledging to raise not just money but alternative "social capital"
> for a project in the form of visibility, advertising, promotion, or
> anything you can dream up.
>
> Projects can be promoted through distributed means... blogging, shared
> banners, email... each one of these channels can signify the trust of
> the person promting it truely reflecting the communities social
> capital/trust/karma and buy in.
>
> Think of promoting a pledge as karma points (aka. whuffie, a Corey
> Doctorow term, see wikipedia)... these links being a symbolic currency
> of social capital, while that actual money is a the tangible
> monetization of that capital In that way the correlation between
> the two can be endlessly explored and capitalized on... explored to
> the point of gaming.
>
> For example, "I'll pledge $1 to X project for everyone who blogs about
> the project."
>
> This creative exploration between social capital and economic capital
> could compound the effectiveness of campaigns to fund projects. :)
>
> Again... this is not something that can currently be done with the
> rigid havemoneywillvlog alone... all one can do is donate... or blog
> about donating... and that's no fun. :)
>
> 3) ownership... pledgebank, because anyone can get creative with
> pledging, allows more sense of ownership and involvement, more buy in
> from the community since members know they to can start pledges and
> not just buy in or agreeing to the intial contract... but BUILD on it.
> In essence getting creative with pledges can be a spirited part of
> the game of fund raising itself keeping people involved in the process
> until funding goals are met.
>
> 4) Transparency = following through. I've heard many say that people
> often welch on their pledges... this is the reason why
> havemoneywillvlog processes money up front. While to some degree I do
> agree with this premise I also would like to note that Pledgebank is
> transparent... it shows who pledges what. This transparency (and a
> little public scrutiny) should ensure follow through.
>
> 5) Pledgebank can have pledges on pledges... you could create another
> pledge on someone elses pledge to encourage the main pledge... For
> example the main pledge might be... "I will pledge $1000 if 100 others
> pledge at least $10"... and another person may pledge, "I will pledge
> $100 if four other people will plege $100". This also illustrates how
> Pledgebank can be used in tandem with HaveMoneyWillVlog... which is
> maybe the best thing about

[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

[Mike Moon]

The Motion Director software was very easy to use.
1) Select the video, 
2) Adjust the last frame of the video that generally is the same as
the start
3) Processes the video, took about 5 minutes to go through the 1400+
frames 
4) Then it gave me the option to fine tune the matching overlapping
frame. Just drag and drop
5) Then go to the Trim option to square it up
6) done!

Very slick. 

You have seen it, but for others, this is a 360degree virtual view of
my backyard:
http://blip.tv/file/get/Moon-BackyardVirtualTour996.mov (Quicktime
required)

The software is very easy to use, but has it's flaws. As you can see
at the back, between the shed and the trees to the right, it's missing
about 30 feet. That's probably due to the similar shadows. But unless
I point it out, most wouldn't have noticed.

I can hardly wait until summer when I'll do another from the center of
the pool. :) 

With regards to the Xacti audio, I find it sounds hollow, tinny. With
the C40, it's an older model and doesn't come with a mic jack. 

But overall, I'm very happy with the video, specially for vlogging.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mike
> 
> The VR feature is pretty cool. The rotation was fluid. I found a
> refrence to the software smoothing out the pan. But could not find the
> online help for Motion Director.
> 
> 
> How long did it take to convert? How much "hands on" does the software
> require of the edit? By that I mean are you babysitting frame by frame
> to adjust for lags or bumps in the pan?
> 
> Was that as wide as your xacti can zoom out?
> 
> The xacti is impressing me, especially the price ...
> http://www.6ave.com/product.jsp?zipz=11001&x=VPCC40&w=1
> 
> The audio on your xacti sounds pretty darn good (ignoring the wind
> noise), have you used the audio jack (for a external mic) and if so
> did you have problems like Halcyon has had with the plug needing to be
> fiddled with?
> 
> What I am thinking about here is experimenting with two xacti's side
> by side. Not sure (e)xact(i)ly how I could do this but I am thinking
> 3d. Make a short bar with the bottom of the bar attaching to the
> tripod and the top with two mountings for two xacties. There is a lot
>  more to pulling this off (sync, software) but my first thought is
> this is kinda like any other mashup, just needs imagination.
> 
> A couple of quick links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon"  wrote:
> >
> > Hey there,
> > 
> > I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
> > like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
> > lens on my MiniDV.
> > 
> > On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
> > even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
> > easy to navigate. 
> > The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens
too. 
> > 
> 
> > I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
> > is cheap and the video is good.
> > 
> > Mike
> > http://vlog.mikemoon.net 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jsmooth995" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of
insight
> 
> > > I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around,  
> > > 
> > > Much thanks for any insights!
> > > Jay Smooth
> > > WBAI / hiphopmusic.com
> > >
> >
>

RE: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

[Robyn Tippins]

The worst part here is the auto-adding of coauthors.  My hubby is a pastor
and he got added as a coauthor to a porn site this weekend LOL

 

According to this it’s been taken care of though.  Doesn’t surprise me since
MBL got purchased by yahoo just a few weeks ago.

 

http://mybloglogb.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/were_working_on.html

 

Robyn

 

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Beth Kanter
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:17 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

 

Deirdre:

Mr. Online-Pharmacy and Mr. Free Ipod Phone have paid me a visit  and if
you follow the link to Mr. Online-Pharmacy's profile, you'll see that some
other people thank them for visiting. Others tell them to F off.
http://beth.

typepad.com/beths_blog/2007/02/yuck_they_have_.html

Spam isn't as bad as having cyberstalkers visit ..

B.

_ 

From: videoblogging@ 
yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@
 yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Deirdre Straughan
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:01 AM
To: videoblogging@  yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

I recently sent them a screen cap of two splogs that appeared in my listing,
and haven't seen any since (though that may be coincidence. No correlation
with spam that I can see.

On 2/18/07, Sanford Dickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 lantic.com> wrote:
>
> I am - and I am getting an increase in spam - thought it was just
> seasonal.
>
> On 18 Feb 2007, at 13:34, sull wrote:
>
> > Anyone use MyBlogLog.com?
> > Are you having sudden spamming issues... splogs and bogus friend
> > requests?
> > I am.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sull
> > http://vlogdir.  com> com (a
project)
> > http://SpreadTheMed 
ia.org> ia.org (my blog)
> > http://interdigitat 
e.com> e.com (otherly)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

[Mike Meiser]

Howdy All,

Was just doing some research on social capital and I stumbled upon
Pledgebank.com. Excitement ensues...

It occurs to me that while it could be used as an even more open
alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog it could also be used quite
effectively in tandem with havemoneywillvlog.

I'm extremely interested in the relationship of social capital and
economic capital.  Which is to say the intangible combined assets of a
community such as trust, connectivity, etc, etc... and the
relationship between actual monetary capital.

HaveMoneyWillVlog has been a great experiment.  I wonder however if it
can't be replicated in a more distributed manner, and encourage more
creative, more fun... even a game like atmosphere.

My thoughts are as follows... skip down further for a fun example of
how pledgebank and havemoneywillvlog might combine to create more
creative fundraising.

1) Pledgebank is extremely interesting because unlike
HaveMoneyWillVlog ANY enterprising person can take the initiative and
start a pledge of their choice. For example... "I'll pledge $1000 to X
project if 50 other people pledge $10 or more."

In this means a whole organic model for fund raising may be created.
All a project needs is a great sponsor or patron to take the
initiative. Eventually expertise and best practices will evolve.

In other words pledgebank is *flexible* enough and *open* enough to
handle wide experimentation necessary for innovation in this new field
of P2P funding.


2) Pledging to raise not just money but alternative "social capital"
for a project in the form of visibility, advertising, promotion, or
anything you can dream up.

Projects can be promoted through distributed means... blogging, shared
banners, email... each one of these channels can signify the trust of
the person promting it truely reflecting the communities social
capital/trust/karma and buy in.

Think of promoting a pledge as karma points (aka. whuffie, a Corey
Doctorow term, see wikipedia)... these links being a symbolic currency
of social capital, while that actual money is a the tangible
monetization of that capital  In that way the correlation between
the two can be endlessly explored and capitalized on... explored to
the point of gaming.

For example, "I'll pledge $1 to X project for everyone who blogs about
the project."

This creative exploration between social capital and economic capital
could compound the effectiveness of campaigns to fund projects. :)

Again... this is not something that can currently be done with the
rigid havemoneywillvlog alone... all one can do is donate... or blog
about donating... and that's no fun. :)


3) ownership...  pledgebank, because anyone can get creative with
pledging,  allows more sense of ownership and involvement, more buy in
from the community since members know they to can start pledges and
not just buy in or agreeing to the intial contract... but BUILD on it.
 In essence getting creative with pledges can be a spirited part of
the game of fund raising itself keeping people involved in the process
until funding goals are met.


4) Transparency = following through.  I've heard many say that people
often welch on their pledges... this is the reason why
havemoneywillvlog processes money up front.  While to some degree I do
agree with this premise I also would like to note that Pledgebank is
transparent... it shows who pledges what.  This transparency (and a
little public scrutiny) should ensure follow through.

5) Pledgebank can have pledges on pledges... you could create another
pledge on someone elses pledge to encourage the main pledge... For
example the main pledge might be... "I will pledge $1000 if 100 others
pledge at least $10"... and another person may pledge, "I will pledge
$100 if four other people will plege $100". This also illustrates how
Pledgebank can be used in tandem with HaveMoneyWillVlog... which is
maybe the best thing about it of all.

6) Pledgebank and HaveMoneyWillVlog in tandem!   As the above point
illustrates anyone could create a pledge on a HaveMoneyWillVlog
campaign to add an additional incentive to the pot, Pledgebank need
not be just an alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog.

7) Non-monetary pledges - In fact a pledge may not have anthing to dow
with money at all. Someone might pledge a peace of equipment to the
project, or some other promotional resource... I.E.  "I'll  pledge the
use of my camera, if someone else pledges the use the use of their
car."  Or "I'll pledge to work on this project on Saturday and Sunday,
if someone can help on Monday."  Or "I'll pledge to cover the plane
ticket if someone else pledges to cover the hotel room."

8) Reputation & Reciprocity  it would be interesting if someone
could create a "flickr of pledging" where members could build
reputations for pledging, promoting, and creating successful pledges
building more transparency and value into the system and encouraging
reciprocation of good deeds.

I picture some day a site like blip or mefe

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Paul Knight]

Yes Markus,

For some strange reason it happens to me to, could it be the server  
is down or something like that?  But thanks for publishing the donate  
page, that's really nice of you.

Just my luck that the server would go down just when I wanted to use  
it as proof, but hey, these things happen.

Paul Knight

On 19 Feb 2007, at 21:06, Markus Sandy wrote:

>
> On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Paul Knight wrote:
>
> >
> > Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to  
> those
> > who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions
> > site on the Comic Relief website.
> >
>
> i clicked on the above link but kept getting an error message saying
> "unable to complete the requested action"
>
> the other one seems to work ok:
>
> http://www.rednoseday.com/onlinedonation/
>
> here is a screencap of the error message
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=395777293&size=o
>
> ---
> Markus Sandy
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow
>
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>
>
> 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Markus Sandy]

On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Paul Knight wrote:

>
>  Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to those
>  who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions
>  site on the Comic Relief website.
>

i clicked on the above link but kept getting an error message saying 
"unable to complete the requested action"

the other one seems to work ok:

http://www.rednoseday.com/onlinedonation/



here is a screencap of the error message

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=395777293&size=o

---
Markus Sandy
http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow


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Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

[schlomo rabinowitz]

I had a really good time.

Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and talked
YouTube with a bunch of folks.

They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.

Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there.  Met a
bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the poop
about what they love about YouTube.  Did a couple interviews that I'll be
putting up later.

Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
push a certain groups together in the same room.  Plans are a-coming.

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
http://hatfactory.net
http://evilvlog.com


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[videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

[Jay dedman]

did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
http://tinyurl.com/36yefy
Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.

"The good news for those who fear that technology is eroding personal
interaction is that many of the attendees said they came specifically
for some face-to-face interaction."

Jay

-- 
Here I am
http://jaydedman.com

[videoblogging] Re: Your blogs, my friends?

[Bill Streeter]

I just launched BillStreeter.net but it still needs some work. But I 
plan on blogging some of my production notes there as well as random 
bullshit that I think of. I am still tweeking the theme so be 
gentle. I also need to fill out the blogroll--It's a work in 
progress. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
and
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "J. Rhett Aultman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey, guys.
> 
> Amy and I are slowly starting to branch out beyond Freetime, and 
part of
> this has meant doing up the weatherlight.com website to reflect 
that we're
> slowly becoming a video productions group with a number of 
different
> projects.  We've created a blog (http://www.weatherlight.com/blog) 
where
> we talk about our experiences producing video projects, marketing, 
etc. 
> I'd like to fill our our blogroll with the "production side" blogs 
that
> others on here might have.
> 
> Rather than browsing for all of them, though, I thought I'd just 
put out a
> call here.  If you have a "behind the scenes" or "production side" 
blog
> regarding your video project(s), we'd like to add it to our 
blogroll. 
> Please just email us off-list with your URL.
> 
> --
> Rhett.
> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
>

[videoblogging] Your blogs, my friends?

[J. Rhett Aultman]

Hey, guys.

Amy and I are slowly starting to branch out beyond Freetime, and part of
this has meant doing up the weatherlight.com website to reflect that we're
slowly becoming a video productions group with a number of different
projects.  We've created a blog (http://www.weatherlight.com/blog) where
we talk about our experiences producing video projects, marketing, etc. 
I'd like to fill our our blogroll with the "production side" blogs that
others on here might have.

Rather than browsing for all of them, though, I thought I'd just put out a
call here.  If you have a "behind the scenes" or "production side" blog
regarding your video project(s), we'd like to add it to our blogroll. 
Please just email us off-list with your URL.

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime

[videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[humancloner1997]

Josh, you can be critical of emotional responses someone expresses in 
frustration over pressing issues of life and death.  However, you 
really violate social civility by imputing "evil intentions" to an 
expressed passion to do good and save lives.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 
50, so i
> probably skipped over your first one
> 
> I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...
> 
> Here is what you did:
> 1. insulted an entire country

We Americans deserve to be criticized for spending 1% or 2% of our 
National budget on foreign aid while much poorer countries like 
Ireland contribute two or three times that percentage.

> 2. insulted the videobloggers in that country

Saying members of a vlogging community that glorifies the values of 
sharing and helping seem unconcerned with two billion people who live 
on $1 a day & die by the millions simply because they don't have 
access to clean water is not "insulting" them. It is a "challenge" 
and "wake-up call" challenging them to do better.

> 3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of

No one, no group should be offended if basically valid criticism is 
expressed in a socially "impolite" way. ("You smoke cigarettes!  How 
stupid can you be?  Don't you know what they are doing to your body?")

> 4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with 
materialistic
> matters

Most human beings are only concerned with materialistic matters.  If 
you traveled in poor countries & saw women sleeping with her four 
children on the street with only cardboard boxes as covering against 
the cold, you'd have a more informed understanding of the hostility 
directed at selfish materialistic Americans.
> 
> you need to re-think your methodology...
> 
> I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to 
earn
> hits to popularize your site...

This is really an ugly personal attack.  Paul does incredible 
sophisticated vlogs that are largely ignored by the mindless mobs on 
the Internet.

> 
> I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable 
causes
> but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they 
didn't
> respond to your one email

We are all "interested" in helping charitable causes.  I set a 
several fund appeals aside around Christmas intending to send them 
contributions in varying amounts--Jimmy Carter, the Humane Society, 
Amnesty International, the Gay Community Center, etc.

Actually, the easiest thing in the world is to "not act" on your own 
charitable impulses.  I hadn't written the checks & Paul's 
frustration and emotional over-reaction at a total, absolute, zero 
response from the 2,500 or so people on the list motivated me to get 
those checks written and in the mail.

I felt so bad about Paul's "zero" response, I gave $20 just as a 
token of support even though I'm not familiar with that charity & am 
very selective about the groups I support financially.

Yes, Paul certainly wasn't "politically correct" socially.  I agree 
that his anger might have been counter-productive.  He's not going to 
be voted "most popular vlogger of the year" by folks on this list.

That said, I respect his genuine "good" intentions.  I don't know how 
much he will ultimately raise for his chosen charity but his anger 
reminded me of my own uncharitable negligence. He raised a lot more 
than $20 for all the causes listed above.

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Hoboken, NJ

> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/17/07, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you 
need to
> > do, please try to be completely un american about this and at 
least
> > give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you 
read
> > the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should 
be
> > typing this is capital letters, really.
> >
> > JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR 
THE
> > CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
> >
> > And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
> > there is an incentive for you all.
> >
> > But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
> > (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big 
deal,
> > I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
> > are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less 
worthy.
> >
> > The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, 
I
> > never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, 
to
> > get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties 
or
> > comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
> > vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the "great and 
the
> > Good" ha, is just not good enough.
> >
> > I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
> > So log as you can't hold 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joost for Mac in Beta

[sull]

works as good as the pc version.


On 2/19/07, Ryan Kawailani Ozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> Woo! I may have gotten in through the generosity of a Mac-friendly
> Jooster, and if so, and if I ultimately find invites of my own to share, I
> certainly will pass on the love here on the list.
>
> Interestingly, mere hours before I got in the door, the Mac (Intel) beta
> was pulled because of some build issues. I guess that's why they're called
> beta releases! The Joost blog says we shouldn't have to wait too long for
> another crack at it.
>
> Ryan
> HawaiiVOG
>
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>



-- 
Sull
http://vlogdir.com (a project)
http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
http://interdigitate.com (otherly)


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[videoblogging] Re: Joost for Mac in Beta

[Ryan Kawailani Ozawa]

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Woo!  I may have gotten in through the generosity of a Mac-friendly
Jooster, and if so, and if I ultimately find invites of my own to share, I
certainly will pass on the love here on the list.

Interestingly, mere hours before I got in the door, the Mac (Intel) beta
was pulled because of some build issues.  I guess that's why they're called
beta releases!  The Joost blog says we shouldn't have to wait too long for
another crack at it.

Ryan
HawaiiVOG

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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[bestdamntechshow]

LisaNova tried out for MadTV some time ago and didn't get the nod.  
She has a bunch of subscribers on her YouTube channel, went back to
MadTV and they hired her.Congrats to her, but other than that,
this isn't a huge story.  

Not to sound like a hater, but this might be a bigger story if it was
say...SNL who hired someone from YouTube (which may happen, you never
know).

Bottom line is talent is talent.  A little bit of cross-over news for
MadTV (in the YT world) doesn't hurt either.

_drew
www.scriggity.com
www.bestdamntech.com
www.pluggd.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "schlomo rabinowitz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've
only
> heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.
> 
> I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to
Bring Love
> Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim
Henson and
> almost died with Soupy Sales.
> 
> Schlomo
> http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
> http://hatfactory.net
> http://evilvlog.com
> 
> 
> On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
> > attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
> > profile bloggers in this group?
> > I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
> > YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
> > to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
> > I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
> > about her here?
> >
> >
> 
> 
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>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[schlomo rabinowitz]

I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've only
heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.

I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to Bring Love
Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim Henson and
almost died with Soupy Sales.

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
http://hatfactory.net
http://evilvlog.com


On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
> attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
> profile bloggers in this group?
> I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
> YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
> to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
> I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
> about her here?
>
>


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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[Darren Winkler Darren Scott]

Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another 
attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big 
profile bloggers in this group?
I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this 
YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just 
to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts 
about her here?
There are people on the net doing real work and I can tell that 
LisaNova is another pre-made wet dream for freaky old men and 
addolecent boys and nothing more.
I'll take Ask A Ninja anytine over this boring tripe!



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser"  wrote:
>
> Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
> call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)
> 
> The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
> reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.
> 
> When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
> they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.
> 
> Some people jokingly say "great people thing alike"
> 
> It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so 
long
> as it happens.
> 
> For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
> comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
> aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing 
it
> with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
> comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what 
I'd
> described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
> participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
> comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, 
would
> be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a 
piece
> of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. 
Come
> to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
> vipodder for as many as six months prior.
> 
> About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
> inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.
> 
> It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our 
ideas
> on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
> Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
> this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
> ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.
> 
> In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
> do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
> second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
> brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some 
connection
> between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
> Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
> asthetic or theme.
> 
> Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.
> 
> I will always think of it as "inevitability" myself.
> 
> If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
> grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
> the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to 
fast
> bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
> sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount 
of
> mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)
> 
> I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
> what's called "social capital".
> 
> Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
> visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
> things.
> 
> If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
> capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
> Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
> only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we 
call
> the free market system can function.
> 
> It's can be as simple as a friend asking you "heh, I need to get the
> oil changed on my car you know anyone?"... that they know you and 
you
> might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
> phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the 
whole 6
> degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you 
can
> likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
> they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.
> 
> This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and 
LisaNova.
> 
> It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
> the same company, or mechanic or whatever.
> 
> -Mike
> mefeedia.com
> mmeiser.com/blog
> 
> On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A) Not even 1%
> >
> > B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D
> >
> > Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered 
that

[videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

[Bill Cammack]

You're welcome. :)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Halcyon " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are a genius!
> 
> I have a stereo sony mic and tried that.  I think it's gonna work
(better at
> least).
> 
> I'll also try to pick up a 2 mono imputs-to-stereo plug converter, too.
> 
> THANK YOU
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >   From that video you made, it looks like you're using a mono mic. The
> > specs of the camera say that it has a stereo input. If that's the
> > case, the number of rings on the end of your mic is going to be
> > different from the number of rings on the plug that goes into the
> > camera. Basically, you want both to be the same, one way or the other.
> >
> > Try going to Radio Shack and getting a really cheap (or actually,
> > maybe just asking them to use it to see if it works with your camera,
> > like Jan suggested) mixer that accepts mono inputs but outputs stereo.
> > Plug the adapter plug all the way in and have that connect to the
> > stereo mixer and have that attach to your mic. That solves two
> > problems. 1) Going from mono to stereo and 2) if it's still too loud,
> > you can use the mixer to lower the volume to an acceptable level.
> > This might not be practical "on the go", but if you're staying in one
> > place or using a tripod, this could work for you. An added benefit of
> > using a mixer is that you would be able to plug in as many mics as the
> > mixer allows. You could mic yoursef and someone else and have your
> > input go left and their input go right, so while you're taping, you
> > have two clean signals instead of having to pass a mic back and forth.
> > Another application could be to have one side attached to a mic set
> > up to pick up natural sound from the background and the other side
> > pick up your mic. That way, you could mix the sound however you want
> > when you get to editing.
> >
> > My miniDV camera has a stereo input also. The difference is that it
> > also has a headphone jack. When I plug a mono mic into my camera, I
> > only hear the audio on one channel. The other channel is just static,
> > because it's not receiving any input. That doesn't matter, because
> > coming through a mono mic, I'm only going to receive a mono signal, so
> > I only need one channel to come through. I can tell on the headphones
> > that I'm getting what I need, so it's a wrap.
> >
> > They DO sell stereo mics, though, so either try your camera with the
> > adapter all the way in and connected to a stereo mic, or use a mixer
> > to convert the mono signal into a dual-mono signal that the camera can
> > pick up properly on both channels.
> >
> > --
> > Bill C.
> > http://ReelSolid.TV
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
,
> > "Halcyon "  wrote:
> > >
> > > interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can
find a mono
> > > adapter and see if that works.
> > >
> > > the included 2.5mm -> 3.5mm adaptor cable:
> > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg
> > >
> > > and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
> > > http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ
> > >
> > > -halcyon
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Paul Knight]

You know Jan and Josh, I typed a really good come back for that, but  
to be fair I couldn't be bothered to post it as it will only be  
ignored anyway.

I have had some positive feedback from this, not as much as a  
galacticast episode yet, but it's getting there, lol.

Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to those  
who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions  
site on the Comic Relief website.  I will thank you in front of the  
misunderstanders, as outstanding members of this group.

Randolfe Wicker and Adam Clarke.

But unfortunately when I ask for help in getting this Project  
popular, not me, by digging or whatever, even those people who did  
digg the story, there hasn't been much come back, maybe digg is more  
cliquy than this group.

As for sending me jokes, recorded or otherwise, I have had one  
response which is a maybe.  So what is so wrong with asking for talent?

By asking the great and the good to be un-American, maybe a little  
too sensitive for the sensitive Mr Leo, when he does such good work  
over seas, for this I apologize humbly, maybe I should have put it  
this way, stop acing like a load of wet Brits and stand up to the  
mic, y'all!!  Y HA!!  BANG BANG!!

As a man who has finally been taken seriously for testing for a real  
mental illness, Manic Depression which left me the other morning  
staring at about 10 boxes of over the counter pharmacuticles,  
thinking, maybe it's time.  Then seeking help, and getting the Red  
Nose Day Buzz, thus distracting me slightly, you might just  
understand ever so slightly just how much this project means to me.

Good day

Paul Knight


On 19 Feb 2007, at 15:29, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

> Yup. That's it, Josh.
>
> As a recovering masochist, this tactic rests particularly uneasily  
> in my
> psyche.
>
> Do you see how it comes off, Paul?
>
> Marketing by insult doesn't work.
>
> Jan
>
> On 2/19/07, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out  
> of 50, so
> > i
> > probably skipped over your first one
> >
> > I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...
> >
> > Here is what you did:
> > 1. insulted an entire country
> > 2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
> > 3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
> > 4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with
> > materialistic
> > matters
> >
> > you need to re-think your methodology...
> >
> > I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire  
> to earn
> > hits to popularize your site...
> >
> > I think there are plenty of people interested in helping  
> charitable causes
> > but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because  
> they didn't
> > respond to your one email
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/17/07, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you  
> need to
> > > do, please try to be completely un american about this and at  
> least
> > > give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you  
> read
> > > the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally  
> should be
> > > typing this is capital letters, really.
> > >
> > > JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT  
> FOR THE
> > > CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
> > >
> > > And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
> > > there is an incentive for you all.
> > >
> > > But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
> > > (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big  
> deal,
> > > I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
> > > are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less  
> worthy.
> > >
> > > The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying  
> hey, I
> > > never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want  
> to, to
> > > get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and  
> technoriaties or
> > > comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
> > > vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the "great and  
> the
> > > Good" ha, is just not good enough.
> > >
> > > I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
> > > So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are  
> forgotten and
> > > ignored.
> > > This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than  
> you think!
> > > Stop being so f'ing selfish.
> > >
> > > Paul Knight
> > >
> > > (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this  
> Charity, but
> > > I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
> > > cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate  
> some
> > > more)
> > > On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I  
> didn't even
> > > > know that you were sick. Besides, you know

Re: [videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

[Halcyon]

You are a genius!

I have a stereo sony mic and tried that.  I think it's gonna work (better at
least).

I'll also try to pick up a 2 mono imputs-to-stereo plug converter, too.

THANK YOU



On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>   From that video you made, it looks like you're using a mono mic. The
> specs of the camera say that it has a stereo input. If that's the
> case, the number of rings on the end of your mic is going to be
> different from the number of rings on the plug that goes into the
> camera. Basically, you want both to be the same, one way or the other.
>
> Try going to Radio Shack and getting a really cheap (or actually,
> maybe just asking them to use it to see if it works with your camera,
> like Jan suggested) mixer that accepts mono inputs but outputs stereo.
> Plug the adapter plug all the way in and have that connect to the
> stereo mixer and have that attach to your mic. That solves two
> problems. 1) Going from mono to stereo and 2) if it's still too loud,
> you can use the mixer to lower the volume to an acceptable level.
> This might not be practical "on the go", but if you're staying in one
> place or using a tripod, this could work for you. An added benefit of
> using a mixer is that you would be able to plug in as many mics as the
> mixer allows. You could mic yoursef and someone else and have your
> input go left and their input go right, so while you're taping, you
> have two clean signals instead of having to pass a mic back and forth.
> Another application could be to have one side attached to a mic set
> up to pick up natural sound from the background and the other side
> pick up your mic. That way, you could mix the sound however you want
> when you get to editing.
>
> My miniDV camera has a stereo input also. The difference is that it
> also has a headphone jack. When I plug a mono mic into my camera, I
> only hear the audio on one channel. The other channel is just static,
> because it's not receiving any input. That doesn't matter, because
> coming through a mono mic, I'm only going to receive a mono signal, so
> I only need one channel to come through. I can tell on the headphones
> that I'm getting what I need, so it's a wrap.
>
> They DO sell stereo mics, though, so either try your camera with the
> adapter all the way in and connected to a stereo mic, or use a mixer
> to convert the mono signal into a dual-mono signal that the camera can
> pick up properly on both channels.
>
> --
> Bill C.
> http://ReelSolid.TV
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Halcyon " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can find a mono
> > adapter and see if that works.
> >
> > the included 2.5mm -> 3.5mm adaptor cable:
> > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg
> >
> > and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
> > http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ
> >
> > -halcyon
>
>  
>


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RE: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

[Beth Kanter]

Deirdre:
 
Mr. Online-Pharmacy and Mr. Free Ipod Phone have paid me a visit  and if
you follow the link to Mr. Online-Pharmacy's profile, you'll see that some
other people thank them for visiting.  Others tell them to F  off.
http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2007/02/yuck_they_have_.html
 
Spam isn't as bad as having cyberstalkers visit ..

B.

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Deirdre Straughan
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:01 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam



I recently sent them a screen cap of two splogs that appeared in my listing,
and haven't seen any since (though that may be coincidence. No correlation
with spam that I can see.

On 2/18/07, Sanford Dickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 lantic.com> wrote:
>
> I am - and I am getting an increase in spam - thought it was just
> seasonal.
>
> On 18 Feb 2007, at 13:34, sull wrote:
>
> > Anyone use MyBlogLog.com?
> > Are you having sudden spamming issues... splogs and bogus friend
> > requests?
> > I am.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sull
> > http://vlogdir.  com (a project)
> > http://SpreadTheMed  ia.org (my blog)
> > http://interdigitat  e.com (otherly)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)

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[videoblogging] Re: The audience of ten

[Andy Carvin]

> Ultimately blogging and vlogging has rested on obscurity to do this.
> For example... to pick on Andy Carvin... if the pictures in his photo
> feed or blog feed were of cats and babies I figured pretty much they
> werent' for me... and skipped right over them...  but if they were of
> vloggers and web luminaries i jumped right in and watched or read
> them.  The point is the demands of my time ensured that I skipped over
> things weren't meant for me.  Of course such security through
> obscurity while great for the vast majority of very low level
> communications is will not even slow down a trol or worse from digging
> through your history.
> 

Perhaps I should have thrown in a video of one of my cats in between
the videos of Zadi and Jarvis this week just to mess with you. :-)

I've definitely struggled with this, since my blog is a delicate
balance of personal stuff and professional stuff, which admittedly has
swung a bit more personal since we had the baby eight months ago. (My
wife and I are getting ready to launch a vlog about parenting, which
will help take some of the pressure off - stay tuned.) Ideally, I'd
love it if my blog software (movable type) or my site's search engine
(Google Co-op) would allow the public to set up customized rss feeds
based on keywords, just as you would with Google News or Technorati.
That way, if you wanted to subscribe to a feed of my blog that only
picks up content for keywords like "social media" and "video" and
"public radio" (or "babies" and "cats" if that floats your boat), you
could do that without any fuss. Perhaps even better would be
personalized feeds with exclusionary preferences, such as a feed that
captures everything on my blog _except_ keyword references of my own
selection, like cats and babies, if that stuff gets on your nerves. 

Like David Weinberger suggested at NPR on Friday, it's all about the
metadata. (Perhaps I should print some bumper stickers that say "It's
the Metadata, Stupid.") If we just had better tools for seeking out or
excluding certain types of metadata, we could personalize the user's
experience and address some of these issues. That would leave us
plenty of time obsessing over whether it's better to have 10 or 10,000
subscribers to our feeds. 

andy carvin
www.andycarvin.com

[videoblogging] Jarvis critiques McCain vids

[Dave Huth]

Jeff Jarvis tries to get through to McCain. 

http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2007/02/19/2514/

His main critique is that McCain is simply putting up standard longer format 
campaign ads 
on YouTube, rarther than try to engage anyone in conversation. I must say when 
I heard the 
dramatic horns and drums behind the KenBurns-ed  stills of McCain looking off 
in the 
distance, I laughed out loud. I think Jarvis is right on, in both his critique 
and in the note 
about what is interesting about what McCain is trying.

 Dave H.

[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[Andy Carvin]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser" 
> 
> I've been meaning to bug Andy Carvin about this as he's working with
> NPR on their new media strategy... or as I like to put it... on
> finding new ways to interact with the people formerly known as "the
> audience".  Hopefully Andy's listening now.
> 

You rang? :-)

> Here's a little example...
> 
> My friend got be hooked on Cartalk which is always on on Saturday and
> Sunday mornings on NPR... I don't know why... it doesn't matter why...
> and I haven't owned a car for over 10 years... the point is Cartalk hs
> a very NICHE market... it's to guys with thick boston accents talking
> about car problem solving for an hour a week.  That's one hour a week,
> and you have to catch it on a radio at 10am on Saturday or Sunday.
> 
> It occurs to me... weekly ritual aside... that not only would I MUCH
> rather enjoy CarTalk via podcast ANYTIME I liked but that they would
> have an inifinitely greater opportunity to reach this tiny niche
> market segment of listeners if they made themselves accessible via
> podcast on the web.
> 
> Not only would their listners be able to listen to them anytime and
> anywhere... but they'd be more accessible... more available to a whole
> world audience... like say an American Expat in Tokyo... or China,
> Africa or anywhere in the world.  They could reach this tiny sliver of
> audience anywhere that audience is around the globe.

Of all the possible things I'm thinking of doing at NPR, that
particular request might just be the hardest to pull off. Not because
it's technically difficult - it isn't - but because of a larger
resistance within the entire public radio system to podcast full
programs. Why? Because that would undermine the individual radio
stations that rely on shows like Car Talk to create an audience for
themselves. And  NPR is a membership org of stations, with stations
represented on our board. So you can say Long Tail til your pass out
from exhaustion, but it's not going to change these cultural and
political challenges within pubradio overnight.

This was a major topic at the social media gathering I hosted this
week, because many of them, being outside the pubradio system, see
podcasting all of our intact shows as a no-brainer, whereas within
public radio it's generally a taboo. Thing are slowly changing - take
Fresh Air, for example, which now has its own podcast. But these
things take a lot of negotiating, particularly when a show like
CarTalk isn't produced by NPR - we merely distribute it.

So as I help roll out social media projects in the coming months, I
wouldn't hold your breath for a Car Talk podcast. Community features
on our website? I certainly hope so. But the podcast battle is one
that's above my pay grade -andy

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Jan McLaughlin]

Yup. That's it, Josh.

As a recovering masochist, this tactic rests particularly uneasily in my
psyche.

Do you see how it comes off, Paul?

Marketing by insult doesn't work.

Jan

On 2/19/07, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 50, so
> i
> probably skipped over your first one
>
> I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...
>
> Here is what you did:
> 1. insulted an entire country
> 2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
> 3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
> 4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with
> materialistic
> matters
>
> you need to re-think your methodology...
>
> I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to earn
> hits to popularize your site...
>
> I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable causes
> but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they didn't
> respond to your one email
>
>
>
>
> On 2/17/07, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you need to
> > do, please try to be completely un american about this and at least
> > give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you read
> > the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should be
> > typing this is capital letters, really.
> >
> > JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR THE
> > CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
> >
> > And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
> > there is an incentive for you all.
> >
> > But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
> > (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big deal,
> > I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
> > are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less worthy.
> >
> > The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, I
> > never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, to
> > get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties or
> > comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
> > vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the "great and the
> > Good" ha, is just not good enough.
> >
> > I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
> > So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are forgotten and
> > ignored.
> > This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than you think!
> > Stop being so f'ing selfish.
> >
> > Paul Knight
> >
> > (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this Charity, but
> > I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
> > cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate some
> > more)
> > On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena
> >
> >
> > > Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I didn't even
> > > know that you were sick. Besides, you know how many posts flow through
> > > the group. You also know that sometimes posts are delayed from
> > > appearing through no fault of the postee.
> > >
> > > If you posted this Friday UK that is in the early morning California
> > > PST (i.e. 2-3am) I'm not reading, I'm sleeping! Literally!
> > >
> > > Also I have to say that if I see something titled Charity Event that
> > > generally means it is something to attend and since I am on
> > > transportation lock down I might have ignored it even if I had seen it
> > > which I didn't cuz I was sleep.
> > >
> > > Titles man, descriptive titles go a long way to drawing attention.
> > > Let me read what you have proposed and we'll see if we can pass it
> > > down the line and get some reactions.
> > >
> > > P.S. If it ever comes up in Parliament I would like to propose that
> > > the UK switch to Pacific Standard Time. I realize it would be a major
> > > disruption but sacrifices have to be made to promote international
> > > unity. Or effective group communications.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the finger is waving. In a Moe Howard kind of way but lovingly
> > > none the less.
> > >
> > > Gena
> > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
> > > http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
> > > http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
> > Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Lovely Lovely Vloggers out there,
> > > >
> > > > As some British people know or are aware of, Comic Relief is only a
> > > > month away, I have been to sainsburys and got my red nose and
> > > > holographic chocolate and this time, because I was a few months late
> > > > at starting this rollercoaster of a ride into internet video, I want
> > > > to do my bit for this wonderful charity. I have started doing a joke
> > > > a day on my website, http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com and have
> > > > managed to get a comic relief donate button so anyone, well just
> > > this
> > > > country actually 

[videoblogging] content-recognition software

[bordercollieaustralianshepherd]

Some of what I have in the way of raw video I considered posting to a
service like spin or jumpcut and let others have at it. This seems to
have a chance of allowing us to track where clips end up. What are
your thoughts? I grabbed a couple of links to add pro/con here:





It also seems like it could be a way to tag too. Am I thinking too big?


By BRAD STONE and MIGUEL HELFT
Published: February 19, 2007


SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 18 — As media companies struggle to reclaim
control over their movies, television shows and music in a world of
online file-sharing software, they have found an ally in software of
another kind.

The new technological weapon is content-recognition software, which
makes it possible to identify copyrighted material, even, for example,
from blurry video clips.

The technology could address what the entertainment industry sees as
one of its biggest problems — songs and videos being posted on the Web
without permission.

Last week, Vance Ikezoye, the chief executive of Audible Magic in Los
Gatos, Calif., demonstrated the technology by downloading a two-minute
clip from YouTube and feeding it into his company's new
video-recognition system.

The clip — drained of color, with dialogue dubbed in Chinese —
appeared to have been recorded with a camcorder in a dark movie
theater before it was uploaded to the Web, so the image quality was poor.

Still, Mr. Ikezoye's filtering software quickly identified it as the
sword-training scene that begins 49 minutes and 37 seconds into the
Miramax film "Kill Bill: Vol. 2."

The entertainment industry is clamoring for Internet companies to
adopt the technology for music files as well as for video clips. The
social networking site MySpace, owned by the News Corporation, said
last week that it would use Audible Magic's system to identify
copyrighted material on its pages. But not every Internet company is
rushing to go along. The video-sharing site YouTube, which Google
bought last year, is the major holdout so far.

Though YouTube's co-founders said publicly that they would start using
filtering technology by the end of last year, the site has yet to do
so. And they have further angered some media companies by saying they
would only use such technology to detect clips owned by companies that
agree to broader licensing deals with YouTube.

The pressure is on. Executives at media companies like NBC and Viacom
have criticized Google for the delay. Earlier this month, Viacom asked
YouTube to remove 100,000 clips of its shows, like music videos from
MTV and excerpts from Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

In a statement, YouTube said that identifying which video clips had
been uploaded without permission was a complex problem that required
the cooperation of the copyright owners. "On YouTube, identifying
copyrighted material cannot be a single automated process," it said in
the statement.

The systems being developed by companies like Audible Magic and
Gracenote  make use of
vast databases that store digital representations of copyrighted
songs, TV shows and movies.

When new files are uploaded to a Web site that is using the system, it
checks the database for matches using a technique known as digital
fingerprinting. Copyrighted material can then be blocked or posted,
depending on whether it is licensed for use on the site.

"This is capable of helping the film and TV studios comprehensively
protect their works," Mr. Ikezoye said. "This could put the genie back
in the bottle."

Audio fingerprinting technologies have been used successfully for some
time to detect copyrighted music on file-sharing networks and, to a
smaller degree, to identify music tracks on social-networking Web
sites like MySpace.

Systems that can identify video files hold even greater promise to
improve relations between traditional media companies and Internet
companies like YouTube. But the technology is not quite ready.

"Video is much more complex to analyze, and more information needs to
be captured in the fingerprint," said Bill Rosenblatt, president of
GiantSteps Media Technology Strategies
, a consulting firm based in New York.
He noted that there were also more ways to fool the technology — for
example, by cropping the image.

Screening for video is also more difficult because of the sheer volume
of new material broadcast on television each day, all of which must be
captured in the database.

And deploying any type of fingerprinting technology can carry a price.
Users tend to leave filtered Web sites and migrate to more
anything-goes online destinations.

Nevertheless, some file-sharing networks and smaller video sites like
 and 

[videoblogging] Re: a gentle suggestion

[johnleeke]

I agree. On my screen sometimes the font is LESS than 1/16" high by
actual measurement.

John "squinty" Leeke

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Deirdre Straughan]

Red Nose day is meaningless in the US. I happen to be in the UK right this
moment so I know that it's a big deal here - you can buy red noses
everywhere ("at least 60p to charity") etc. but it's a strictly British
institution and you can't expect Americans to even have heard of it.

Everyone is bombarded daily by requests for this or that donation (of time
or money), to think about this or care about that. We all have limited
personal bandwidth, and we choose the causes and institutions that are
dearest to each of us. I donate considerable time and energy to the
international school in India that I attended (as is evident from my
website). I'll probably be involved (again) with the Democrats Abroad next
year, getting out the vote. I give to Planned Parenthood even though I no
longer live in the US and it's of no possible use to me personally.

So, no matter how noble the cause, I'm all cared out. And, knowing the
caliber and characters of the people on this list, I know that the same can
be said of many or most of us: we are plenty involved and already giving far
MORE than the human or American average, in our time, our money, our
expertise, and our passion. We just happen to be giving it to other things.
So you can't expect us to leap up and take on a new charity activity just
because you ask.

And I'd agree with Josh that your insistence on the Digg aspect makes me
itch. How is helping your site get traffic going to actually help raise
funds on Red Nose day, especially when the UK media is already inundated
with coverage for it? In any case, it's not a Digg sort of thing. There are
zillions of articles out there on "how to get Dugg," and, from what I've
read, this topic doesn't strike me as one that's going to be a winner. You'd
be better off trying to get the UK media to talk about it, and you have
already had some successes there, so I suggest you go for that.

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

[Josh Leo]

I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 50, so i
probably skipped over your first one

I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...

Here is what you did:
1. insulted an entire country
2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with materialistic
matters

you need to re-think your methodology...

I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to earn
hits to popularize your site...

I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable causes
but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they didn't
respond to your one email




On 2/17/07, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you need to
> do, please try to be completely un american about this and at least
> give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you read
> the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should be
> typing this is capital letters, really.
>
> JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR THE
> CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
>
> And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
> there is an incentive for you all.
>
> But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
> (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big deal,
> I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
> are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less worthy.
>
> The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, I
> never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, to
> get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties or
> comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
> vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the "great and the
> Good" ha, is just not good enough.
>
> I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
> So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are forgotten and
> ignored.
> This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than you think!
> Stop being so f'ing selfish.
>
> Paul Knight
>
> (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this Charity, but
> I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
> cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate some
> more)
> On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena
>
>
> > Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I didn't even
> > know that you were sick. Besides, you know how many posts flow through
> > the group. You also know that sometimes posts are delayed from
> > appearing through no fault of the postee.
> >
> > If you posted this Friday UK that is in the early morning California
> > PST (i.e. 2-3am) I'm not reading, I'm sleeping! Literally!
> >
> > Also I have to say that if I see something titled Charity Event that
> > generally means it is something to attend and since I am on
> > transportation lock down I might have ignored it even if I had seen it
> > which I didn't cuz I was sleep.
> >
> > Titles man, descriptive titles go a long way to drawing attention.
> > Let me read what you have proposed and we'll see if we can pass it
> > down the line and get some reactions.
> >
> > P.S. If it ever comes up in Parliament I would like to propose that
> > the UK switch to Pacific Standard Time. I realize it would be a major
> > disruption but sacrifices have to be made to promote international
> > unity. Or effective group communications.
> >
> > Yeah, the finger is waving. In a Moe Howard kind of way but lovingly
> > none the less.
> >
> > Gena
> > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
> > http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
> > http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Lovely Lovely Vloggers out there,
> > >
> > > As some British people know or are aware of, Comic Relief is only a
> > > month away, I have been to sainsburys and got my red nose and
> > > holographic chocolate and this time, because I was a few months late
> > > at starting this rollercoaster of a ride into internet video, I want
> > > to do my bit for this wonderful charity. I have started doing a joke
> > > a day on my website, http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com and have
> > > managed to get a comic relief donate button so anyone, well just
> > this
> > > country actually can donate to to this worthy cause directly.
> > >
> > > The cause is basically simple, instead of Rock Stars doing live aid,
> > > you get the best comics from all over the world to do their bit for
> > > free to raise funds for African Kids who have been effected by war
> > > and famine to kids in this country who are carers for disabled
> > > relitives the mentally ill, the kids who are effected by drink and
> > > drugs, loads of things l

[videoblogging] Making Video Go Viral

[savetheshelter]

Hello from Canada,

This is a great reource for video bloggers. I work for a registered
charitable organization which operates a Youth Resource Centre and
Emergency Shelter, which is facing closure due to loss of funding. We
have created a WordPress blog to assist us in increasing awareness and
moblizing support for this unfortunately needed service. Shortly we
will be posting some videos on the blog and of course on the major
video sharing sites (pls see the Blog's URL below).

http://www.mys.ca/news

I would appreciate any suggestions from the group in terms of
effective ways to facilitate a video going viral (other than social
bookmarking and of course, the video is produced so we can't change
the content).

Thank you in adavance for any suggestions.

Regards,
Randy

[videoblogging] Joost for Mac build pulled

[Bill Cammack]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do you email anyone you are going to link to?
> 
> Jay
> 
> -- 
> Here I am
> http://jaydedman.com

I just linked to you without emailing you...

because I don't care! :D

[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

[bordercollieaustralianshepherd]

Mike

The VR feature is pretty cool. The rotation was fluid. I found a
refrence to the software smoothing out the pan. But could not find the
online help for Motion Director.


How long did it take to convert? How much "hands on" does the software
require of the edit? By that I mean are you babysitting frame by frame
to adjust for lags or bumps in the pan?

Was that as wide as your xacti can zoom out?

The xacti is impressing me, especially the price ...
http://www.6ave.com/product.jsp?zipz=11001&x=VPCC40&w=1

The audio on your xacti sounds pretty darn good (ignoring the wind
noise), have you used the audio jack (for a external mic) and if so
did you have problems like Halcyon has had with the plug needing to be
fiddled with?

What I am thinking about here is experimenting with two xacti's side
by side. Not sure (e)xact(i)ly how I could do this but I am thinking
3d. Make a short bar with the bottom of the bar attaching to the
tripod and the top with two mountings for two xacties. There is a lot
 more to pulling this off (sync, software) but my first thought is
this is kinda like any other mashup, just needs imagination.

A couple of quick links






--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey there,
> 
> I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
> like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
> lens on my MiniDV.
> 
> On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
> even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
> easy to navigate. 
> The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens too. 
> 

> I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
> is cheap and the video is good.
> 
> Mike
> http://vlog.mikemoon.net 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jsmooth995"  wrote:
> >
> > Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of insight

> > I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around,  
> > 
> > Much thanks for any insights!
> > Jay Smooth
> > WBAI / hiphopmusic.com
> >
>

[videoblogging] question about fireant

[amani_c]

I haven't subscribed or signed up with fireant, what are the advantages,
and does it help increase traffic or subscriptions?

ac

myurbanreport

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen]

Den 19.02.2007 kl. 13:00 skrev Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Having some sort of "wrapper" around it is optional.

Optional for the author, but it must be required of the parser that it  
understands the wrapper. Otherwise it will not be able to match thumbnails  
to video files (or blog posts) on pages that contains more than one video.  
It goes in the 'strongly encouraged, but optional' category.

> I'll have to read up on hAtom, I can understand how hVlog would make
> it easier to parse, but quite frankly I think it would so confuse the
> average vlogger they'd be apt to either improperly mark up their blog
> posts, or simply forget about it all together.
>
> I guess the question is should we even mention it at all in this  
> thumbnail spec?

Specs are for programmers, not for regular people. It should most  
definitely be listed as a reference. To get the average vlogger to  
understand what they have to do you will have to write a how-to article.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
http://www.solitude.dk/ >

Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

[Jan McLaughlin]

You can make blogger blogs "public" or accessable only by "authors" or by
"only people I choose".

Is that enough?

Jan

On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on
> "the
> > audience of ten". To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
> > friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
> > point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to
> get
> > lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.
> >
> > My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel
> "comfortable"
> > with?
> >
> > Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only
> want
> > more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal
> videoblog,
> > suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.
> >
> > Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to
> my
> > feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
> > goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
> > referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
> > linked to that).
> >
> > If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to
> connect
> > with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
> > they leave nasty comments?
> >
> > Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
> > internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: "If you don't
> want
> > certain people to find it, don't put it out there". That's simple. But
> > still, we want to connect. Reach out.
> >
> > Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
> > watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?
> >
> > Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal
> stuff
> > and more often going for the more "safe" forms of videoblogging?S
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
> audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
> producer is to them.
>
> I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
> youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
> subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
> viewership completely transparent to each other.
>
> You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
> othewise how would anyone be able to find you.
>
> You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
> blacklist certain viewers.
>
> It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
> exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.
>
> Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.
>
> What if you could "bless" certain subscribers with full access to your
> personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
> subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.
>
> This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.
>
> Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
> and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
> track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
> comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
> that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
> by post person by person basis.
>
> Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
> they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
> perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
> information not available to them.
>
> The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
> explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
> and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.
>
> Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.
>
> I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
> idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
> explicit personal communications and so called "shows" with audiences
> in the hundreds of thousands even millions.
>
> I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
> read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
> 100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like a police
> tasering, or a freak natural occurance, or god knows what... that my
> platform could scale literally overnight bringing my words, thoughts,
> ideas, or footage to hundreds of thousands or millions.  It's in fact
> the sign of a healthy and fluid communications space.
>
> So the question is can that same communications plaform that can reach
> a potentially infinite public also be honed to target a very explicit
> few... say a few friends, or immedia

Re: [videoblogging] Video Blog File Type Recommendation Request

[Deirdre Straughan]

I have more or less settled on the following, which I believe gives me the
best possible distribution with least possible effort:

FLV for viewing in a Flash viewer on my web page
SWF for viewing/download in some RSS feeds (I compress both of these from
raw DV/AVI with an old Flash edition of Sorenson Squeeze)
MP4 for iTunes (using QuickTime Pro to compress from raw DV/AVI)

ps Quesocompuesto is one of the few podcasts I've actually listened to and
enjoyed, once when you shared a conference with Jared Spool (I think it
was...). Must go back and see what's new over by you...


On 2/18/07, Giovanni Gallucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   OK...I bow before the video masters.
>
> Simple question ­ What does the videoblogging group members recommend when
> it comes to video file-type for a video blog.
>
> I am doing post production on a Mac with a combination of iMovieHD and
> FinalCut Express.
>
> I am considering .mov, .mp4, and .m4v.
>
> I have three goals in this order -
>
> Widest possible distribution with a single file format;
> highest quality; and
> smallest files size :-).
>
> The only thing I¹m not asking for is a built-in, guaranteed audience of
> several thousand right out of the gate.
>
> So...what say ye, video smarties?
>
> giovanni gallucci
> tel € 469.682.6978
> blog € www.theagencyblog.com
> aim € giovannigallucci
> msn € [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> kinetic results, llc
> 14875 landmark boulevard, suite 200
> addison, tx 75254
> tel € 972.202.9945
> web € www.kineticresults.com
>
> media swamp podcast network
> 15950 dallas parkway, suite 400
> dallas, tx 75248
> web € www.mediaswamp.com
> podcast € www.quesocompuesto.com
> video podcast € www.quesocompuestotv.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

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www.tvblob.com (work)


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[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

[Mike Moon]

Hey there,

I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
lens on my MiniDV.

On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
easy to navigate. 
The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens too. 

With regards to low light, I do quite a few vlogs at night from "The
Cabana", which is lit with a 100watt light bulb. I push the ASA to
1600 and I think it looks quite good, better then my MiniDV. 

I have lots of samples on my vlog, but note that it took me a few
tries to get things the way I want.

I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
is cheap and the video is good.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jsmooth995" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of insight
> from you all (my first little forays into video are here:
> http://illdoctrine.blip.tv/).
> 
> I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around, and
> after reading up here and elsewhere I'm looking at the Elura 100 and
> the Xacti C40. Wondering how much difference there is, especially in
> terms of portability (xacti seems more pocket-sized, and just looks so
> much cooler lol), and audio quality (i've read the xacti is weak on
> sound recording). Also low light recording.. 
> 
> Much thanks for any insights!
> Jay Smooth
> WBAI / hiphopmusic.com
>

Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

[Mike Meiser]

On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on "the
> audience of ten". To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
> friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
> point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to get
> lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.
>
> My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel "comfortable"
> with?
>
> Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only want
> more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal videoblog,
> suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.
>
> Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to my
> feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
> goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
> referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
> linked to that).
>
> If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to connect
> with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
> they leave nasty comments?
>
> Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
> internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: "If you don't want
> certain people to find it, don't put it out there". That's simple. But
> still, we want to connect. Reach out.
>
> Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
> watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?
>
> Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal stuff
> and more often going for the more "safe" forms of videoblogging?S
>
> What do you think?

This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
producer is to them.

I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
viewership completely transparent to each other.

You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
othewise how would anyone be able to find you.

You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
blacklist certain viewers.

It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.

Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.

What if you could "bless" certain subscribers with full access to your
personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.

This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.

Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
by post person by person basis.

Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
information not available to them.

The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.

Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.

I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
explicit personal communications and so called "shows" with audiences
in the hundreds of thousands even millions.

I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like a police
tasering, or a freak natural occurance, or god knows what... that my
platform could scale literally overnight bringing my words, thoughts,
ideas, or footage to hundreds of thousands or millions.  It's in fact
the sign of a healthy and fluid communications space.

So the question is can that same communications plaform that can reach
a potentially infinite public also be honed to target a very explicit
few... say a few friends, or immediate family.

Ultimately blogging and vlogging has rested on obscurity to do this.
For example... to pick on Andy Carvin... if the pictures in his photo
feed or blog feed were of cats and babies I figured pretty much they
werent' for me... and skipped right over them...  but if they were of
vloggers and web luminaries i jumped right in and watched or read
them.  The point is

[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog File Type Recommendation Request

[Mike Moon]

For me, I default to .MP4, with links to .WMV and .FLV.
.MP4 as that is how Ulead names it for the iTunes/Mac compatibility type.
I have a few friends and family watch my vlog and no sense having them
installing Quicktime to view my ramblings, so I offer .WMV and .FLV
for good rounded compatibility.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net
 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Giovanni Gallucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> OK...I bow before the video masters.
> 
> Simple question ­ What does the videoblogging group members
recommend when
> it comes to video file-type for a video blog.
> 
> I am doing post production on a Mac with a combination of iMovieHD and
> FinalCut Express. 
> 
> I am considering .mov, .mp4, and .m4v.
> 
> I have three goals in this order -
> 
> Widest possible distribution with a single file format;
> highest quality; and
> smallest files size :-).
> 
> The only thing I¹m not asking for is a built-in, guaranteed audience of
> several thousand right out of the gate.
> 
> So...what say ye, video smarties?
> 
> 
> giovanni gallucci
> tel € 469.682.6978
> blog € www.theagencyblog.com
> aim € giovannigallucci
> msn € [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> kinetic results, llc
> 14875 landmark boulevard, suite 200
> addison, tx 75254
> tel € 972.202.9945
> web € www.kineticresults.com
> 
> media swamp podcast network
> 15950 dallas parkway, suite 400
> dallas, tx 75248
> web € www.mediaswamp.com
> podcast € www.quesocompuesto.com
> video podcast € www.quesocompuestotv.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[Mike Meiser]

On 2/18/07, Kent Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah it's a good point.
>
> But also consider that the advertising deals Ask A Ninja has dealt
> with to this point have all paid us only for US views.  They don't
> really care about the numbers internationally.

Ha!  It takes time for the business models and processes to realign
themselves with the new world order. Advertisers aren't used to having
channels to reach niche markets around the globe... only in geographic
regions.

This is the other evil end of the spectrum from local market's not
mattering to advertisers... the rest of the world outside the U.S.
does not exist. :)

> I'm sure some clever tech person will develop a system that will
> dynamically insert the right video ad based on guessed locale of the
> audience member, but we're a little ways a way from that.

Google is already working on it.

> The Lisa Nova thing is a nice landmark in terms of how to break
> through and get a role in Hollywood.  Lisa is the first person to not
> have any real acting credits and then get hired to do a big league
> Hollywood gig.  (The Lonely Island guys gradually grew and then SNL
> got them).

As mentioned in this thread after you sent this email apparently
LisaNova had attempted to get on MadTV BEFORE she got big on youtube,
so it isn't like her youtube success was the sole factor.

BTW, I'm really glad you not only know who the lonely island guys are
but based on your words you've followed their rise since long before
they were on SNL. I've got some blog posts about them on my blog from
as far back as three years.  There are a lot of parrellels between web
phenom and not only hollywood, but also the mainstream advertising
world.

Did you hear about Budlight's Super Bowl ad that completely ripped off
the online comedy group... damn... forgive me, I'm blanking on the
name... white people something or other. Crap. It's the comercial
where people slap on another in the face and say "it's the new thing".
The point is was completely riped off by Budlight word for word.

> It's Hollywood's version of being bought by Google.  And I'm sure it
> will happen more and more.

Yeap.

And Budlight ripping off a commedy groups skits to use in
Advertisements for the superbowl is Madison Avenue's version of
Napster.

I'll remember the name of the comedy group as soon as I send this
email and will send a follow up.

> Ask A Ninja is a little too big to be bought now, not saying that it
> will never happen, but the money Hollywood has offered is no where
> near what we can make on Advertising/Merch.

That's cool. I love to hear it.

But just because you think you're to big or tpo successful to sell out
(you never really are) doesn't mean that you can't syndicate or
licensce your content to MTV or some UK, or australian... or Chinese
or Japanese TV station... and that is the real point... syndication to
niche market makers is the key to making money... it's how your
content can connect advertiser with a marketplace of unique
geographical, or other interests.

As the saying goes, it's not in the cards... it's all in the deal.

Or something like that.

Besides... I'd really LOVE to be traveling in China or Japan one day
and see a Chinese or Japanese dubbed version of AskANinja.  It would
be such cultural zen my head would surely explode. :)

Peace,

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

> -K
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > And, at least from an international point of view, Im perhaps more
> > interested in those who 'make it' and dont cross-over.
> >
> > If Ask a Ninja signed some TV deal, what good is that to me in the UK?
> > That means at best I can watch their stuff months later if its picked
> > up by a uk tv network?
> >
> > Wheras Ask A Ninja got that nice lucrative advertising deal didnt
> > they, and as far as I know this means I can still watch them wherever
> > I am (even if i hate ads, at least I have the option).
> >
> > Its funny how rarely I see the international dimensions of net video
> > being discussed in the mainstream & especially business press. They
> > throw all these huge numbers around concerning ad revenue, but I dont
> > see all that much talk about the implications of having global
> > audiences as well as relatively localised ones. Sometimes I wonder why
> > the large companies that have global products & brands, dont see more
> > in these opportunities, although of course I could be overstating
> > things as I dont know what %age of a typical popular USA vlogs
> > audience is in the USA.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve Elbows
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Im not keeping track deliberately but off the top of my head:
> > >
> > > KarmaBanque got a deal with Al Jazeera English to make some videos for
> > > broadcast on TV.
> > >
> > > Clive James who is an Australian famous in Britain for many years in
> > > the mainstream media, now doe

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[Mike Meiser]

On 2/18/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, at least from an international point of view, Im perhaps more
> interested in those who 'make it' and dont cross-over.

Well said! In fact... maybe it is the reverse-cross-overs that are
MORE interesting!

G4Tech TV, Kevin Rose, and Digg are an EXCELLENT example also Leo Laporte.

G4Tech TV was always only ever a very niche show.

One could argue that the success of Kevin Rose, Digg, and Leo Laporte
may have been seeded at G4Tech TV... but due to the constraints of
broadcast TV/cable they could not truely be a success until they moved
into new media like podcasting, webservices, and videoblogging.
Because... once they moved into the webspace they were MUCH more
accessible to their narrow demographic of geeks and other rable
rousers (sp?).

I've been meaning to bug Andy Carvin about this as he's working with
NPR on their new media strategy... or as I like to put it... on
finding new ways to interact with the people formerly known as "the
audience".  Hopefully Andy's listening now.

Here's a little example...

My friend got be hooked on Cartalk which is always on on Saturday and
Sunday mornings on NPR... I don't know why... it doesn't matter why...
and I haven't owned a car for over 10 years... the point is Cartalk hs
a very NICHE market... it's to guys with thick boston accents talking
about car problem solving for an hour a week.  That's one hour a week,
and you have to catch it on a radio at 10am on Saturday or Sunday.

It occurs to me... weekly ritual aside... that not only would I MUCH
rather enjoy CarTalk via podcast ANYTIME I liked but that they would
have an inifinitely greater opportunity to reach this tiny niche
market segment of listeners if they made themselves accessible via
podcast on the web.

Not only would their listners be able to listen to them anytime and
anywhere... but they'd be more accessible... more available to a whole
world audience... like say an American Expat in Tokyo... or China,
Africa or anywhere in the world.  They could reach this tiny sliver of
audience anywhere that audience is around the globe.

It's not remarkably new concept to most, but this is just to say the following

There are WAY more advantages for cellebrities to cross over from
broadcast media to new internet based media then there are for
webebrities to cross over to broadcast media.

So maybe the story to be tracking is broadcast media cellebrities who
are crossing over to web space.

Politicians are certainly doing it. :)

more below

> If Ask a Ninja signed some TV deal, what good is that to me in the UK?
> That means at best I can watch their stuff months later if its picked
> up by a uk tv network?

exactly... I've listened to a lot of podcasters who now do Satelite
radio. Primarily the Adam Curry gang of podcasters. I will NEVER here
them on satelite radio, so that they're doing satelite is
inconsequential to me as it is to MOST people who started listening to
them via podcast.

I do get the similar vibe with Brookers and LisaNova... and Amanda
Cogdon... they all have claimed to keep videoblogging on the
respective platforms they've started on. Indeed this would appear to
be the primary thing their viewers care about... we don't care if you
sell out... just keep videoblogging or youtubing.

> Wheras Ask A Ninja got that nice lucrative advertising deal didnt
> they, and as far as I know this means I can still watch them wherever
> I am (even if i hate ads, at least I have the option).

Cool/

> Its funny how rarely I see the international dimensions of net video
> being discussed in the mainstream & especially business press. They
> throw all these huge numbers around concerning ad revenue, but I dont
> see all that much talk about the implications of having global
> audiences as well as relatively localised ones. Sometimes I wonder why
> the large companies that have global products & brands, dont see more
> in these opportunities, although of course I could be overstating
> things as I dont know what %age of a typical popular USA vlogs
> audience is in the USA.

You said "local". Magic word. At the other end of the spectrum of
connecting niche markets around the globe is connecting niche markets
of tiny geographic regions.  Podcasts, blogs and videoblogs succeed in
localized markets to small to have TV or radio stations.

Anyway, I feel like aI'm rehashing old ideas. Perhaps it's because
it's the middle of the night and i'm tired.

Later,

-Mike

> Cheers
>
> Steve Elbows
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Im not keeping track deliberately but off the top of my head:
> >
> > KarmaBanque got a deal with Al Jazeera English to make some videos for
> > broadcast on TV.
> >
> > Clive James who is an Australian famous in Britain for many years in
> > the mainstream media, now does stuff online, though I dont know if his
> > videos would meet the definition of videoblogging.
> >
> > Years

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

[Mike Meiser]

Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)

The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.

When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.

Some people jokingly say "great people thing alike"

It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so long
as it happens.

For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing it
with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what I'd
described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, would
be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a piece
of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. Come
to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
vipodder for as many as six months prior.

About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.

It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our ideas
on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.

In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some connection
between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
asthetic or theme.

Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.

I will always think of it as "inevitability" myself.

If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to fast
bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount of
mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)

I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
what's called "social capital".

Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
things.

If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we call
the free market system can function.

It's can be as simple as a friend asking you "heh, I need to get the
oil changed on my car you know anyone?"... that they know you and you
might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the whole 6
degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you can
likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.

This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and LisaNova.

It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
the same company, or mechanic or whatever.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A) Not even 1%
>
> B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D
>
> Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered that LisaNova
> (real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was rejected
> until recently.  Still don't know if my reminder had any influence at all on
> her hiring, but you know what they say about the butterfly's movements...you
> know, the Butterfly Effect?  Maybe my little wingflapping was just the extra
> nudge the cast of MadTV needed to hear in order to make a decision...
>
> Seriously, I'm not in the belief that my part in this truly made any
> difference.  Still, you never know who's discussing you, and who they're
> discussing you with...
>
> Harold
>
> On 2/17/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   A) Did you get your 10%? :D
> >
> > B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "Harold Johnson"
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
> > found
> > > this out and I

Re: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

[Deirdre Straughan]

I recently sent them a screen cap of two splogs that appeared in my listing,
and haven't seen any since (though that may be coincidence. No correlation
with spam that I can see.

On 2/18/07, Sanford Dickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I am - and I am getting an increase in spam - thought it was just
> seasonal.
>
> On 18 Feb 2007, at 13:34, sull wrote:
>
> > Anyone use MyBlogLog.com?
> > Are you having sudden spamming issues... splogs and bogus friend
> > requests?
> > I am.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sull
> > http://vlogdir.com (a project)
> > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
> > http://interdigitate.com (otherly)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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