Re: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

2007-02-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I recently sent them a screen cap of two splogs that appeared in my listing,
and haven't seen any since (though that may be coincidence. No correlation
with spam that I can see.

On 2/18/07, Sanford Dickert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I am - and I am getting an increase in spam - thought it was just
 seasonal.

 On 18 Feb 2007, at 13:34, sull wrote:

  Anyone use MyBlogLog.com?
  Are you having sudden spamming issues... splogs and bogus friend
  requests?
  I am.
 
 
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  http://vlogdir.com (a project)
  http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
  http://interdigitate.com (otherly)
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)

The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.

When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.

Some people jokingly say great people thing alike

It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so long
as it happens.

For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing it
with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what I'd
described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, would
be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a piece
of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. Come
to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
vipodder for as many as six months prior.

About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.

It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our ideas
on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.

In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some connection
between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
asthetic or theme.

Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.

I will always think of it as inevitability myself.

If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to fast
bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount of
mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)

I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
what's called social capital.

Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
things.

If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we call
the free market system can function.

It's can be as simple as a friend asking you heh, I need to get the
oil changed on my car you know anyone?... that they know you and you
might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the whole 6
degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you can
likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.

This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and LisaNova.

It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
the same company, or mechanic or whatever.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A) Not even 1%

 B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D

 Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered that LisaNova
 (real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was rejected
 until recently.  Still don't know if my reminder had any influence at all on
 her hiring, but you know what they say about the butterfly's movements...you
 know, the Butterfly Effect?  Maybe my little wingflapping was just the extra
 nudge the cast of MadTV needed to hear in order to make a decision...

 Seriously, I'm not in the belief that my part in this truly made any
 difference.  Still, you never know who's discussing you, and who they're
 discussing you with...

 Harold

 On 2/17/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
A) Did you get your 10%? :D
 
  B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Harold Johnson
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
  found
   this out and I'm still kind of spinning on 

[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog File Type Recommendation Request

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Moon
For me, I default to .MP4, with links to .WMV and .FLV.
.MP4 as that is how Ulead names it for the iTunes/Mac compatibility type.
I have a few friends and family watch my vlog and no sense having them
installing Quicktime to view my ramblings, so I offer .WMV and .FLV
for good rounded compatibility.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net
 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Giovanni Gallucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 OK...I bow before the video masters.
 
 Simple question ­ What does the videoblogging group members
recommend when
 it comes to video file-type for a video blog.
 
 I am doing post production on a Mac with a combination of iMovieHD and
 FinalCut Express. 
 
 I am considering .mov, .mp4, and .m4v.
 
 I have three goals in this order -
 
 Widest possible distribution with a single file format;
 highest quality; and
 smallest files size :-).
 
 The only thing I¹m not asking for is a built-in, guaranteed audience of
 several thousand right out of the gate.
 
 So...what say ye, video smarties?
 
 
 giovanni gallucci
 tel € 469.682.6978
 blog € www.theagencyblog.com
 aim € giovannigallucci
 msn € [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 kinetic results, llc
 14875 landmark boulevard, suite 200
 addison, tx 75254
 tel € 972.202.9945
 web € www.kineticresults.com
 
 media swamp podcast network
 15950 dallas parkway, suite 400
 dallas, tx 75248
 web € www.mediaswamp.com
 podcast € www.quesocompuesto.com
 video podcast € www.quesocompuestotv.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,

 Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on the
 audience of ten. To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
 friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
 point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to get
 lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.

 My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel comfortable
 with?

 Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only want
 more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal videoblog,
 suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.

 Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to my
 feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
 goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
 referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
 linked to that).

 If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to connect
 with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
 they leave nasty comments?

 Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
 internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: If you don't want
 certain people to find it, don't put it out there. That's simple. But
 still, we want to connect. Reach out.

 Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
 watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?

 Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal stuff
 and more often going for the more safe forms of videoblogging?S

 What do you think?

This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
producer is to them.

I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
viewership completely transparent to each other.

You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
othewise how would anyone be able to find you.

You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
blacklist certain viewers.

It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.

Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.

What if you could bless certain subscribers with full access to your
personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.

This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.

Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
by post person by person basis.

Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
information not available to them.

The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.

Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.

I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
explicit personal communications and so called shows with audiences
in the hundreds of thousands even millions.

I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like a police
tasering, or a freak natural occurance, or god knows what... that my
platform could scale literally overnight bringing my words, thoughts,
ideas, or footage to hundreds of thousands or millions.  It's in fact
the sign of a healthy and fluid communications space.

So the question is can that same communications plaform that can reach
a potentially infinite public also be honed to target a very explicit
few... say a few friends, or immediate family.

Ultimately blogging and vlogging has rested on obscurity to do this.
For example... to pick on Andy Carvin... if the pictures in his photo
feed or blog feed were of cats and babies I figured pretty much they
werent' for me... and skipped right over them...  but if they were of
vloggers and web luminaries i jumped right in and watched or read
them.  The point is the demands of my time ensured that I skipped 

[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Moon
Hey there,

I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
lens on my MiniDV.

On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
easy to navigate. 
The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens too. 

With regards to low light, I do quite a few vlogs at night from The
Cabana, which is lit with a 100watt light bulb. I push the ASA to
1600 and I think it looks quite good, better then my MiniDV. 

I have lots of samples on my vlog, but note that it took me a few
tries to get things the way I want.

I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
is cheap and the video is good.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jsmooth995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of insight
 from you all (my first little forays into video are here:
 http://illdoctrine.blip.tv/).
 
 I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around, and
 after reading up here and elsewhere I'm looking at the Elura 100 and
 the Xacti C40. Wondering how much difference there is, especially in
 terms of portability (xacti seems more pocket-sized, and just looks so
 much cooler lol), and audio quality (i've read the xacti is weak on
 sound recording). Also low light recording.. 
 
 Much thanks for any insights!
 Jay Smooth
 WBAI / hiphopmusic.com





Re: [videoblogging] Video Blog File Type Recommendation Request

2007-02-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I have more or less settled on the following, which I believe gives me the
best possible distribution with least possible effort:

FLV for viewing in a Flash viewer on my web page
SWF for viewing/download in some RSS feeds (I compress both of these from
raw DV/AVI with an old Flash edition of Sorenson Squeeze)
MP4 for iTunes (using QuickTime Pro to compress from raw DV/AVI)

ps Quesocompuesto is one of the few podcasts I've actually listened to and
enjoyed, once when you shared a conference with Jared Spool (I think it
was...). Must go back and see what's new over by you...


On 2/18/07, Giovanni Gallucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   OK...I bow before the video masters.

 Simple question ­ What does the videoblogging group members recommend when
 it comes to video file-type for a video blog.

 I am doing post production on a Mac with a combination of iMovieHD and
 FinalCut Express.

 I am considering .mov, .mp4, and .m4v.

 I have three goals in this order -

 Widest possible distribution with a single file format;
 highest quality; and
 smallest files size :-).

 The only thing I¹m not asking for is a built-in, guaranteed audience of
 several thousand right out of the gate.

 So...what say ye, video smarties?

 giovanni gallucci
 tel € 469.682.6978
 blog € www.theagencyblog.com
 aim € giovannigallucci
 msn € [EMAIL PROTECTED] giovanni%40gallucci.net

 kinetic results, llc
 14875 landmark boulevard, suite 200
 addison, tx 75254
 tel € 972.202.9945
 web € www.kineticresults.com

 media swamp podcast network
 15950 dallas parkway, suite 400
 dallas, tx 75248
 web € www.mediaswamp.com
 podcast € www.quesocompuesto.com
 video podcast € www.quesocompuestotv.com

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Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

2007-02-19 Thread Jan McLaughlin
You can make blogger blogs public or accessable only by authors or by
only people I choose.

Is that enough?

Jan

On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on
 the
  audience of ten. To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
  friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
  point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to
 get
  lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.
 
  My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel
 comfortable
  with?
 
  Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only
 want
  more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal
 videoblog,
  suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.
 
  Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to
 my
  feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
  goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
  referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
  linked to that).
 
  If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to
 connect
  with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
  they leave nasty comments?
 
  Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
  internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: If you don't
 want
  certain people to find it, don't put it out there. That's simple. But
  still, we want to connect. Reach out.
 
  Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
  watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?
 
  Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal
 stuff
  and more often going for the more safe forms of videoblogging?S
 
  What do you think?

 This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
 audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
 producer is to them.

 I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
 youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
 subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
 viewership completely transparent to each other.

 You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
 othewise how would anyone be able to find you.

 You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
 blacklist certain viewers.

 It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
 exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.

 Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.

 What if you could bless certain subscribers with full access to your
 personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
 subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.

 This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.

 Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
 and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
 track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
 comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
 that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
 by post person by person basis.

 Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
 they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
 perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
 information not available to them.

 The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
 explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
 and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.

 Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.

 I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
 idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
 explicit personal communications and so called shows with audiences
 in the hundreds of thousands even millions.

 I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
 read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
 100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like a police
 tasering, or a freak natural occurance, or god knows what... that my
 platform could scale literally overnight bringing my words, thoughts,
 ideas, or footage to hundreds of thousands or millions.  It's in fact
 the sign of a healthy and fluid communications space.

 So the question is can that same communications plaform that can reach
 a potentially infinite public also be honed to target a very explicit
 few... say a few friends, or immediate family.

 Ultimately blogging and vlogging has rested on obscurity to do this.
 For example... to pick on Andy Carvin... if the pictures in his photo
 feed or blog 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

2007-02-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 19.02.2007 kl. 13:00 skrev Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Having some sort of wrapper around it is optional.

Optional for the author, but it must be required of the parser that it  
understands the wrapper. Otherwise it will not be able to match thumbnails  
to video files (or blog posts) on pages that contains more than one video.  
It goes in the 'strongly encouraged, but optional' category.

 I'll have to read up on hAtom, I can understand how hVlog would make
 it easier to parse, but quite frankly I think it would so confuse the
 average vlogger they'd be apt to either improperly mark up their blog
 posts, or simply forget about it all together.

 I guess the question is should we even mention it at all in this  
 thumbnail spec?

Specs are for programmers, not for regular people. It should most  
definitely be listed as a reference. To get the average vlogger to  
understand what they have to do you will have to write a how-to article.

-- 
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 


[videoblogging] question about fireant

2007-02-19 Thread amani_c

I haven't subscribed or signed up with fireant, what are the advantages,
and does it help increase traffic or subscriptions?

ac

myurbanreport

  http://www.myurbanreport.com/



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[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

2007-02-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Mike

The VR feature is pretty cool. The rotation was fluid. I found a
refrence to the software smoothing out the pan. But could not find the
online help for Motion Director.
http://www.sanyo-xacti.com/support/manuals/CA6_Software_GB.pdf

How long did it take to convert? How much hands on does the software
require of the edit? By that I mean are you babysitting frame by frame
to adjust for lags or bumps in the pan?

Was that as wide as your xacti can zoom out?

The xacti is impressing me, especially the price ...
http://www.6ave.com/product.jsp?zipz=11001x=VPCC40w=1

The audio on your xacti sounds pretty darn good (ignoring the wind
noise), have you used the audio jack (for a external mic) and if so
did you have problems like Halcyon has had with the plug needing to be
fiddled with?

What I am thinking about here is experimenting with two xacti's side
by side. Not sure (e)xact(i)ly how I could do this but I am thinking
3d. Make a short bar with the bottom of the bar attaching to the
tripod and the top with two mountings for two xacties. There is a lot
 more to pulling this off (sync, software) but my first thought is
this is kinda like any other mashup, just needs imagination.

A couple of quick links
http://www.stereo3d.com/vidrec.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3656494784112768834



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey there,
 
 I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
 like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
 lens on my MiniDV.
 
 On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
 even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
 easy to navigate. 
 The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens too. 
 

 I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
 is cheap and the video is good.
 
 Mike
 http://vlog.mikemoon.net 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jsmooth995 jsmooth995@ wrote:
 
  Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of insight

  I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around,  
  
  Much thanks for any insights!
  Jay Smooth
  WBAI / hiphopmusic.com
 





[videoblogging] Joost for Mac build pulled

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Do you email anyone you are going to link to?
 
 Jay
 
 -- 
 Here I am
 http://jaydedman.com

I just linked to you without emailing you...

because I don't care! :D

http://blog.fastcompany.com/experts/bcammack/2007/02/joost_for_mac_build_pulled.html



[videoblogging] Making Video Go Viral

2007-02-19 Thread savetheshelter
Hello from Canada,

This is a great reource for video bloggers. I work for a registered
charitable organization which operates a Youth Resource Centre and
Emergency Shelter, which is facing closure due to loss of funding. We
have created a WordPress blog to assist us in increasing awareness and
moblizing support for this unfortunately needed service. Shortly we
will be posting some videos on the blog and of course on the major
video sharing sites (pls see the Blog's URL below).

http://www.mys.ca/news

I would appreciate any suggestions from the group in terms of
effective ways to facilitate a video going viral (other than social
bookmarking and of course, the video is produced so we can't change
the content).

Thank you in adavance for any suggestions.

Regards,
Randy





Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Josh Leo
I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 50, so i
probably skipped over your first one

I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...

Here is what you did:
1. insulted an entire country
2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with materialistic
matters

you need to re-think your methodology...

I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to earn
hits to popularize your site...

I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable causes
but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they didn't
respond to your one email




On 2/17/07, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you need to
 do, please try to be completely un american about this and at least
 give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you read
 the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should be
 typing this is capital letters, really.

 JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR THE
 CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?

 And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
 there is an incentive for you all.

 But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
 (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big deal,
 I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
 are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less worthy.

 The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, I
 never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, to
 get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties or
 comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
 vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the great and the
 Good ha, is just not good enough.

 I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
 So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are forgotten and
 ignored.
 This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than you think!
 Stop being so f'ing selfish.

 Paul Knight

 (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this Charity, but
 I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
 cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate some
 more)
 On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena


  Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I didn't even
  know that you were sick. Besides, you know how many posts flow through
  the group. You also know that sometimes posts are delayed from
  appearing through no fault of the postee.
 
  If you posted this Friday UK that is in the early morning California
  PST (i.e. 2-3am) I'm not reading, I'm sleeping! Literally!
 
  Also I have to say that if I see something titled Charity Event that
  generally means it is something to attend and since I am on
  transportation lock down I might have ignored it even if I had seen it
  which I didn't cuz I was sleep.
 
  Titles man, descriptive titles go a long way to drawing attention.
  Let me read what you have proposed and we'll see if we can pass it
  down the line and get some reactions.
 
  P.S. If it ever comes up in Parliament I would like to propose that
  the UK switch to Pacific Standard Time. I realize it would be a major
  disruption but sacrifices have to be made to promote international
  unity. Or effective group communications.
 
  Yeah, the finger is waving. In a Moe Howard kind of way but lovingly
  none the less.
 
  Gena
  http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
  http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
  http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi Lovely Lovely Vloggers out there,
  
   As some British people know or are aware of, Comic Relief is only a
   month away, I have been to sainsburys and got my red nose and
   holographic chocolate and this time, because I was a few months late
   at starting this rollercoaster of a ride into internet video, I want
   to do my bit for this wonderful charity. I have started doing a joke
   a day on my website, http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com and have
   managed to get a comic relief donate button so anyone, well just
  this
   country actually can donate to to this worthy cause directly.
  
   The cause is basically simple, instead of Rock Stars doing live aid,
   you get the best comics from all over the world to do their bit for
   free to raise funds for African Kids who have been effected by war
   and famine to kids in this country who are carers for disabled
   relitives the mentally ill, the kids who are effected by drink and
   drugs, loads of things like that. I think it is possibly the best
   Charity event of the year, it culminates in a big show on BBC TV on
   March 16th this 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Red Nose day is meaningless in the US. I happen to be in the UK right this
moment so I know that it's a big deal here - you can buy red noses
everywhere (at least 60p to charity) etc. but it's a strictly British
institution and you can't expect Americans to even have heard of it.

Everyone is bombarded daily by requests for this or that donation (of time
or money), to think about this or care about that. We all have limited
personal bandwidth, and we choose the causes and institutions that are
dearest to each of us. I donate considerable time and energy to the
international school in India that I attended (as is evident from my
website). I'll probably be involved (again) with the Democrats Abroad next
year, getting out the vote. I give to Planned Parenthood even though I no
longer live in the US and it's of no possible use to me personally.

So, no matter how noble the cause, I'm all cared out. And, knowing the
caliber and characters of the people on this list, I know that the same can
be said of many or most of us: we are plenty involved and already giving far
MORE than the human or American average, in our time, our money, our
expertise, and our passion. We just happen to be giving it to other things.
So you can't expect us to leap up and take on a new charity activity just
because you ask.

And I'd agree with Josh that your insistence on the Digg aspect makes me
itch. How is helping your site get traffic going to actually help raise
funds on Red Nose day, especially when the UK media is already inundated
with coverage for it? In any case, it's not a Digg sort of thing. There are
zillions of articles out there on how to get Dugg, and, from what I've
read, this topic doesn't strike me as one that's going to be a winner. You'd
be better off trying to get the UK media to talk about it, and you have
already had some successes there, so I suggest you go for that.

-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)


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[videoblogging] Re: a gentle suggestion

2007-02-19 Thread johnleeke
I agree. On my screen sometimes the font is LESS than 1/16 high by
actual measurement.

John squinty Leeke



[videoblogging] content-recognition software

2007-02-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Some of what I have in the way of raw video I considered posting to a
service like spin or jumpcut and let others have at it. This seems to
have a chance of allowing us to track where clips end up. What are
your thoughts? I grabbed a couple of links to add pro/con here:
http://www.audiblemagic.com/index.asp
http://tinyurl.com/3bvrt3
http://www.eff.org/share/audible_magic.php
http://www.audiblemagic.com/products-services/custom/

It also seems like it could be a way to tag too. Am I thinking too big?


By BRAD STONE and MIGUEL HELFT
Published: February 19, 2007

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/technology/19video.html?pagewanted=all
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 18 — As media companies struggle to reclaim
control over their movies, television shows and music in a world of
online file-sharing software, they have found an ally in software of
another kind.

The new technological weapon is content-recognition software, which
makes it possible to identify copyrighted material, even, for example,
from blurry video clips.

The technology could address what the entertainment industry sees as
one of its biggest problems — songs and videos being posted on the Web
without permission.

Last week, Vance Ikezoye, the chief executive of Audible Magic in Los
Gatos, Calif., demonstrated the technology by downloading a two-minute
clip from YouTube and feeding it into his company's new
video-recognition system.

The clip — drained of color, with dialogue dubbed in Chinese —
appeared to have been recorded with a camcorder in a dark movie
theater before it was uploaded to the Web, so the image quality was poor.

Still, Mr. Ikezoye's filtering software quickly identified it as the
sword-training scene that begins 49 minutes and 37 seconds into the
Miramax film Kill Bill: Vol. 2.

The entertainment industry is clamoring for Internet companies to
adopt the technology for music files as well as for video clips. The
social networking site MySpace, owned by the News Corporation, said
last week that it would use Audible Magic's system to identify
copyrighted material on its pages. But not every Internet company is
rushing to go along. The video-sharing site YouTube, which Google
bought last year, is the major holdout so far.

Though YouTube's co-founders said publicly that they would start using
filtering technology by the end of last year, the site has yet to do
so. And they have further angered some media companies by saying they
would only use such technology to detect clips owned by companies that
agree to broader licensing deals with YouTube.

The pressure is on. Executives at media companies like NBC and Viacom
have criticized Google for the delay. Earlier this month, Viacom asked
YouTube to remove 100,000 clips of its shows, like music videos from
MTV and excerpts from Comedy Central's The Daily Show.

In a statement, YouTube said that identifying which video clips had
been uploaded without permission was a complex problem that required
the cooperation of the copyright owners. On YouTube, identifying
copyrighted material cannot be a single automated process, it said in
the statement.

The systems being developed by companies like Audible Magic and
Gracenote http://www.gracenote.com/music/index_old.html make use of
vast databases that store digital representations of copyrighted
songs, TV shows and movies.

When new files are uploaded to a Web site that is using the system, it
checks the database for matches using a technique known as digital
fingerprinting. Copyrighted material can then be blocked or posted,
depending on whether it is licensed for use on the site.

This is capable of helping the film and TV studios comprehensively
protect their works, Mr. Ikezoye said. This could put the genie back
in the bottle.

Audio fingerprinting technologies have been used successfully for some
time to detect copyrighted music on file-sharing networks and, to a
smaller degree, to identify music tracks on social-networking Web
sites like MySpace.

Systems that can identify video files hold even greater promise to
improve relations between traditional media companies and Internet
companies like YouTube. But the technology is not quite ready.

Video is much more complex to analyze, and more information needs to
be captured in the fingerprint, said Bill Rosenblatt, president of
GiantSteps Media Technology Strategies
http://www.giantstepsmts.com/, a consulting firm based in New York.
He noted that there were also more ways to fool the technology — for
example, by cropping the image.

Screening for video is also more difficult because of the sheer volume
of new material broadcast on television each day, all of which must be
captured in the database.

And deploying any type of fingerprinting technology can carry a price.
Users tend to leave filtered Web sites and migrate to more
anything-goes online destinations.

Nevertheless, some file-sharing networks and smaller video sites like
http://www.Guba.com and http://www.Grouper.com are already using
more 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Yup. That's it, Josh.

As a recovering masochist, this tactic rests particularly uneasily in my
psyche.

Do you see how it comes off, Paul?

Marketing by insult doesn't work.

Jan

On 2/19/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 50, so
 i
 probably skipped over your first one

 I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...

 Here is what you did:
 1. insulted an entire country
 2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
 3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
 4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with
 materialistic
 matters

 you need to re-think your methodology...

 I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to earn
 hits to popularize your site...

 I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable causes
 but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they didn't
 respond to your one email




 On 2/17/07, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you need to
  do, please try to be completely un american about this and at least
  give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you read
  the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should be
  typing this is capital letters, really.
 
  JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR THE
  CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
 
  And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
  there is an incentive for you all.
 
  But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
  (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big deal,
  I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
  are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less worthy.
 
  The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, I
  never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, to
  get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties or
  comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
  vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the great and the
  Good ha, is just not good enough.
 
  I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
  So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are forgotten and
  ignored.
  This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than you think!
  Stop being so f'ing selfish.
 
  Paul Knight
 
  (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this Charity, but
  I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
  cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate some
  more)
  On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena
 
 
   Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I didn't even
   know that you were sick. Besides, you know how many posts flow through
   the group. You also know that sometimes posts are delayed from
   appearing through no fault of the postee.
  
   If you posted this Friday UK that is in the early morning California
   PST (i.e. 2-3am) I'm not reading, I'm sleeping! Literally!
  
   Also I have to say that if I see something titled Charity Event that
   generally means it is something to attend and since I am on
   transportation lock down I might have ignored it even if I had seen it
   which I didn't cuz I was sleep.
  
   Titles man, descriptive titles go a long way to drawing attention.
   Let me read what you have proposed and we'll see if we can pass it
   down the line and get some reactions.
  
   P.S. If it ever comes up in Parliament I would like to propose that
   the UK switch to Pacific Standard Time. I realize it would be a major
   disruption but sacrifices have to be made to promote international
   unity. Or effective group communications.
  
   Yeah, the finger is waving. In a Moe Howard kind of way but lovingly
   none the less.
  
   Gena
   http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
   http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
   http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
Hi Lovely Lovely Vloggers out there,
   
As some British people know or are aware of, Comic Relief is only a
month away, I have been to sainsburys and got my red nose and
holographic chocolate and this time, because I was a few months late
at starting this rollercoaster of a ride into internet video, I want
to do my bit for this wonderful charity. I have started doing a joke
a day on my website, http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com and have
managed to get a comic relief donate button so anyone, well just
   this
country actually can donate to to this worthy cause directly.
   
The cause is basically simple, instead of Rock Stars doing live aid,
you get the best comics from all over the world to do their bit for
free to raise funds for African 

[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Andy Carvin
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser 
 
 I've been meaning to bug Andy Carvin about this as he's working with
 NPR on their new media strategy... or as I like to put it... on
 finding new ways to interact with the people formerly known as the
 audience.  Hopefully Andy's listening now.
 

You rang? :-)

 Here's a little example...
 
 My friend got be hooked on Cartalk which is always on on Saturday and
 Sunday mornings on NPR... I don't know why... it doesn't matter why...
 and I haven't owned a car for over 10 years... the point is Cartalk hs
 a very NICHE market... it's to guys with thick boston accents talking
 about car problem solving for an hour a week.  That's one hour a week,
 and you have to catch it on a radio at 10am on Saturday or Sunday.
 
 It occurs to me... weekly ritual aside... that not only would I MUCH
 rather enjoy CarTalk via podcast ANYTIME I liked but that they would
 have an inifinitely greater opportunity to reach this tiny niche
 market segment of listeners if they made themselves accessible via
 podcast on the web.
 
 Not only would their listners be able to listen to them anytime and
 anywhere... but they'd be more accessible... more available to a whole
 world audience... like say an American Expat in Tokyo... or China,
 Africa or anywhere in the world.  They could reach this tiny sliver of
 audience anywhere that audience is around the globe.

Of all the possible things I'm thinking of doing at NPR, that
particular request might just be the hardest to pull off. Not because
it's technically difficult - it isn't - but because of a larger
resistance within the entire public radio system to podcast full
programs. Why? Because that would undermine the individual radio
stations that rely on shows like Car Talk to create an audience for
themselves. And  NPR is a membership org of stations, with stations
represented on our board. So you can say Long Tail til your pass out
from exhaustion, but it's not going to change these cultural and
political challenges within pubradio overnight.

This was a major topic at the social media gathering I hosted this
week, because many of them, being outside the pubradio system, see
podcasting all of our intact shows as a no-brainer, whereas within
public radio it's generally a taboo. Thing are slowly changing - take
Fresh Air, for example, which now has its own podcast. But these
things take a lot of negotiating, particularly when a show like
CarTalk isn't produced by NPR - we merely distribute it.

So as I help roll out social media projects in the coming months, I
wouldn't hold your breath for a Car Talk podcast. Community features
on our website? I certainly hope so. But the podcast battle is one
that's above my pay grade -andy





[videoblogging] Jarvis critiques McCain vids

2007-02-19 Thread Dave Huth
Jeff Jarvis tries to get through to McCain. 

http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2007/02/19/2514/

His main critique is that McCain is simply putting up standard longer format 
campaign ads 
on YouTube, rarther than try to engage anyone in conversation. I must say when 
I heard the 
dramatic horns and drums behind the KenBurns-ed  stills of McCain looking off 
in the 
distance, I laughed out loud. I think Jarvis is right on, in both his critique 
and in the note 
about what is interesting about what McCain is trying.

 Dave H.



[videoblogging] Re: The audience of ten

2007-02-19 Thread Andy Carvin

 Ultimately blogging and vlogging has rested on obscurity to do this.
 For example... to pick on Andy Carvin... if the pictures in his photo
 feed or blog feed were of cats and babies I figured pretty much they
 werent' for me... and skipped right over them...  but if they were of
 vloggers and web luminaries i jumped right in and watched or read
 them.  The point is the demands of my time ensured that I skipped over
 things weren't meant for me.  Of course such security through
 obscurity while great for the vast majority of very low level
 communications is will not even slow down a trol or worse from digging
 through your history.
 

Perhaps I should have thrown in a video of one of my cats in between
the videos of Zadi and Jarvis this week just to mess with you. :-)

I've definitely struggled with this, since my blog is a delicate
balance of personal stuff and professional stuff, which admittedly has
swung a bit more personal since we had the baby eight months ago. (My
wife and I are getting ready to launch a vlog about parenting, which
will help take some of the pressure off - stay tuned.) Ideally, I'd
love it if my blog software (movable type) or my site's search engine
(Google Co-op) would allow the public to set up customized rss feeds
based on keywords, just as you would with Google News or Technorati.
That way, if you wanted to subscribe to a feed of my blog that only
picks up content for keywords like social media and video and
public radio (or babies and cats if that floats your boat), you
could do that without any fuss. Perhaps even better would be
personalized feeds with exclusionary preferences, such as a feed that
captures everything on my blog _except_ keyword references of my own
selection, like cats and babies, if that stuff gets on your nerves. 

Like David Weinberger suggested at NPR on Friday, it's all about the
metadata. (Perhaps I should print some bumper stickers that say It's
the Metadata, Stupid.) If we just had better tools for seeking out or
excluding certain types of metadata, we could personalize the user's
experience and address some of these issues. That would leave us
plenty of time obsessing over whether it's better to have 10 or 10,000
subscribers to our feeds. 

andy carvin
www.andycarvin.com



RE: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam

2007-02-19 Thread Beth Kanter
Deirdre:
 
Mr. Online-Pharmacy and Mr. Free Ipod Phone have paid me a visit  and if
you follow the link to Mr. Online-Pharmacy's profile, you'll see that some
other people thank them for visiting.  Others tell them to F  off.
http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2007/02/yuck_they_have_.html
 
Spam isn't as bad as having cyberstalkers visit ..

B.

  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Deirdre Straughan
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:01 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MyBlogLog Spam



I recently sent them a screen cap of two splogs that appeared in my listing,
and haven't seen any since (though that may be coincidence. No correlation
with spam that I can see.

On 2/18/07, Sanford Dickert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:sdickert%40rawlingsatlantic.com lantic.com wrote:

 I am - and I am getting an increase in spam - thought it was just
 seasonal.

 On 18 Feb 2007, at 13:34, sull wrote:

  Anyone use MyBlogLog.com?
  Are you having sudden spamming issues... splogs and bogus friend
  requests?
  I am.
 
 
  --
  Sull
  http://vlogdir. http://vlogdir.com com (a project)
  http://SpreadTheMed http://SpreadTheMedia.org ia.org (my blog)
  http://interdigitat http://interdigitate.com e.com (otherly)
 
 
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  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

 


-- 
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
www.tvblob.com (work)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

2007-02-19 Thread Halcyon
You are a genius!

I have a stereo sony mic and tried that.  I think it's gonna work (better at
least).

I'll also try to pick up a 2 mono imputs-to-stereo plug converter, too.

THANK YOU



On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

   From that video you made, it looks like you're using a mono mic. The
 specs of the camera say that it has a stereo input. If that's the
 case, the number of rings on the end of your mic is going to be
 different from the number of rings on the plug that goes into the
 camera. Basically, you want both to be the same, one way or the other.

 Try going to Radio Shack and getting a really cheap (or actually,
 maybe just asking them to use it to see if it works with your camera,
 like Jan suggested) mixer that accepts mono inputs but outputs stereo.
 Plug the adapter plug all the way in and have that connect to the
 stereo mixer and have that attach to your mic. That solves two
 problems. 1) Going from mono to stereo and 2) if it's still too loud,
 you can use the mixer to lower the volume to an acceptable level.
 This might not be practical on the go, but if you're staying in one
 place or using a tripod, this could work for you. An added benefit of
 using a mixer is that you would be able to plug in as many mics as the
 mixer allows. You could mic yoursef and someone else and have your
 input go left and their input go right, so while you're taping, you
 have two clean signals instead of having to pass a mic back and forth.
 Another application could be to have one side attached to a mic set
 up to pick up natural sound from the background and the other side
 pick up your mic. That way, you could mix the sound however you want
 when you get to editing.

 My miniDV camera has a stereo input also. The difference is that it
 also has a headphone jack. When I plug a mono mic into my camera, I
 only hear the audio on one channel. The other channel is just static,
 because it's not receiving any input. That doesn't matter, because
 coming through a mono mic, I'm only going to receive a mono signal, so
 I only need one channel to come through. I can tell on the headphones
 that I'm getting what I need, so it's a wrap.

 They DO sell stereo mics, though, so either try your camera with the
 adapter all the way in and connected to a stereo mic, or use a mixer
 to convert the mono signal into a dual-mono signal that the camera can
 pick up properly on both channels.

 --
 Bill C.
 http://ReelSolid.TV

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Halcyon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can find a mono
  adapter and see if that works.
 
  the included 2.5mm - 3.5mm adaptor cable:
  http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg
 
  and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
  http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ
 
  -halcyon

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Knight
You know Jan and Josh, I typed a really good come back for that, but  
to be fair I couldn't be bothered to post it as it will only be  
ignored anyway.

I have had some positive feedback from this, not as much as a  
galacticast episode yet, but it's getting there, lol.

Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to those  
who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions  
site on the Comic Relief website.  I will thank you in front of the  
misunderstanders, as outstanding members of this group.

Randolfe Wicker and Adam Clarke.

But unfortunately when I ask for help in getting this Project  
popular, not me, by digging or whatever, even those people who did  
digg the story, there hasn't been much come back, maybe digg is more  
cliquy than this group.

As for sending me jokes, recorded or otherwise, I have had one  
response which is a maybe.  So what is so wrong with asking for talent?

By asking the great and the good to be un-American, maybe a little  
too sensitive for the sensitive Mr Leo, when he does such good work  
over seas, for this I apologize humbly, maybe I should have put it  
this way, stop acing like a load of wet Brits and stand up to the  
mic, y'all!!  Y HA!!  BANG BANG!!

As a man who has finally been taken seriously for testing for a real  
mental illness, Manic Depression which left me the other morning  
staring at about 10 boxes of over the counter pharmacuticles,  
thinking, maybe it's time.  Then seeking help, and getting the Red  
Nose Day Buzz, thus distracting me slightly, you might just  
understand ever so slightly just how much this project means to me.

Good day

Paul Knight


On 19 Feb 2007, at 15:29, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

 Yup. That's it, Josh.

 As a recovering masochist, this tactic rests particularly uneasily  
 in my
 psyche.

 Do you see how it comes off, Paul?

 Marketing by insult doesn't work.

 Jan

 On 2/19/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out  
 of 50, so
  i
  probably skipped over your first one
 
  I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...
 
  Here is what you did:
  1. insulted an entire country
  2. insulted the videobloggers in that country
  3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of
  4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with
  materialistic
  matters
 
  you need to re-think your methodology...
 
  I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire  
 to earn
  hits to popularize your site...
 
  I think there are plenty of people interested in helping  
 charitable causes
  but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because  
 they didn't
  respond to your one email
 
 
 
 
  On 2/17/07, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you  
 need to
   do, please try to be completely un american about this and at  
 least
   give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you  
 read
   the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally  
 should be
   typing this is capital letters, really.
  
   JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT  
 FOR THE
   CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
  
   And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
   there is an incentive for you all.
  
   But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
   (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big  
 deal,
   I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
   are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less  
 worthy.
  
   The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying  
 hey, I
   never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want  
 to, to
   get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and  
 technoriaties or
   comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
   vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the great and  
 the
   Good ha, is just not good enough.
  
   I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
   So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are  
 forgotten and
   ignored.
   This group IS made up of more people from outside the US than  
 you think!
   Stop being so f'ing selfish.
  
   Paul Knight
  
   (BTW anyone from outside the UK can't contribute to this  
 Charity, but
   I just need digging so that people know what I am doing to raise
   cash, simple enough for you to understand, or shall I elucidate  
 some
   more)
   On 17 Feb 2007, at 20:54, Gena wrote:Gena
  
  
Hey Paul, This is the first that I'm seeing the post. I  
 didn't even
know that you were sick. Besides, you know how many posts  
 flow through
the group. You also know that sometimes posts are delayed from
appearing through no fault of the postee.
   
If you posted this Friday UK that is in the early morning  
 

[videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Cammack
You're welcome. :)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Halcyon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You are a genius!
 
 I have a stereo sony mic and tried that.  I think it's gonna work
(better at
 least).
 
 I'll also try to pick up a 2 mono imputs-to-stereo plug converter, too.
 
 THANK YOU
 
 
 
 On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
From that video you made, it looks like you're using a mono mic. The
  specs of the camera say that it has a stereo input. If that's the
  case, the number of rings on the end of your mic is going to be
  different from the number of rings on the plug that goes into the
  camera. Basically, you want both to be the same, one way or the other.
 
  Try going to Radio Shack and getting a really cheap (or actually,
  maybe just asking them to use it to see if it works with your camera,
  like Jan suggested) mixer that accepts mono inputs but outputs stereo.
  Plug the adapter plug all the way in and have that connect to the
  stereo mixer and have that attach to your mic. That solves two
  problems. 1) Going from mono to stereo and 2) if it's still too loud,
  you can use the mixer to lower the volume to an acceptable level.
  This might not be practical on the go, but if you're staying in one
  place or using a tripod, this could work for you. An added benefit of
  using a mixer is that you would be able to plug in as many mics as the
  mixer allows. You could mic yoursef and someone else and have your
  input go left and their input go right, so while you're taping, you
  have two clean signals instead of having to pass a mic back and forth.
  Another application could be to have one side attached to a mic set
  up to pick up natural sound from the background and the other side
  pick up your mic. That way, you could mix the sound however you want
  when you get to editing.
 
  My miniDV camera has a stereo input also. The difference is that it
  also has a headphone jack. When I plug a mono mic into my camera, I
  only hear the audio on one channel. The other channel is just static,
  because it's not receiving any input. That doesn't matter, because
  coming through a mono mic, I'm only going to receive a mono signal, so
  I only need one channel to come through. I can tell on the headphones
  that I'm getting what I need, so it's a wrap.
 
  They DO sell stereo mics, though, so either try your camera with the
  adapter all the way in and connected to a stereo mic, or use a mixer
  to convert the mono signal into a dual-mono signal that the camera can
  pick up properly on both channels.
 
  --
  Bill C.
  http://ReelSolid.TV
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Halcyon  halcyon@ wrote:
  
   interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can
find a mono
   adapter and see if that works.
  
   the included 2.5mm - 3.5mm adaptor cable:
   http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg
  
   and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
   http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ
  
   -halcyon
 
   
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Darren Winkler Darren Scott
Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another 
attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big 
profile bloggers in this group?
I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this 
YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just 
to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts 
about her here?
There are people on the net doing real work and I can tell that 
LisaNova is another pre-made wet dream for freaky old men and 
addolecent boys and nothing more.
I'll take Ask A Ninja anytine over this boring tripe!



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser groups-yahoo-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
 call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)
 
 The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
 reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.
 
 When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
 they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.
 
 Some people jokingly say great people thing alike
 
 It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so 
long
 as it happens.
 
 For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
 comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
 aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing 
it
 with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
 comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what 
I'd
 described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
 participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
 comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, 
would
 be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a 
piece
 of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. 
Come
 to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
 vipodder for as many as six months prior.
 
 About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
 inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.
 
 It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our 
ideas
 on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
 Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
 this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
 ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.
 
 In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
 do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
 second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
 brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some 
connection
 between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
 Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
 asthetic or theme.
 
 Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.
 
 I will always think of it as inevitability myself.
 
 If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
 grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
 the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to 
fast
 bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
 sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount 
of
 mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)
 
 I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
 what's called social capital.
 
 Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
 visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
 things.
 
 If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
 capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
 Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
 only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we 
call
 the free market system can function.
 
 It's can be as simple as a friend asking you heh, I need to get the
 oil changed on my car you know anyone?... that they know you and 
you
 might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
 phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the 
whole 6
 degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you 
can
 likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
 they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.
 
 This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and 
LisaNova.
 
 It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
 the same company, or mechanic or whatever.
 
 -Mike
 mefeedia.com
 mmeiser.com/blog
 
 On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A) Not even 1%
 
  B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D
 
  Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered 
that LisaNova
  (real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've only
heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.

I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to Bring Love
Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim Henson and
almost died with Soupy Sales.

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
http://hatfactory.net
http://evilvlog.com


On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
 attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
 profile bloggers in this group?
 I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
 YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
 to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
 I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
 about her here?




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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread bestdamntechshow
LisaNova tried out for MadTV some time ago and didn't get the nod.  
She has a bunch of subscribers on her YouTube channel, went back to
MadTV and they hired her.Congrats to her, but other than that,
this isn't a huge story.  

Not to sound like a hater, but this might be a bigger story if it was
say...SNL who hired someone from YouTube (which may happen, you never
know).

Bottom line is talent is talent.  A little bit of cross-over news for
MadTV (in the YT world) doesn't hurt either.

_drew
www.scriggity.com
www.bestdamntech.com
www.pluggd.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've
only
 heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.
 
 I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to
Bring Love
 Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim
Henson and
 almost died with Soupy Sales.
 
 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
 http://hatfactory.net
 http://evilvlog.com
 
 
 On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
  attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
  profile bloggers in this group?
  I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
  YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
  to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
  I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
  about her here?
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Joost for Mac in Beta

2007-02-19 Thread Ryan Kawailani Ozawa
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Woo!  I may have gotten in through the generosity of a Mac-friendly
Jooster, and if so, and if I ultimately find invites of my own to share, I
certainly will pass on the love here on the list.

Interestingly, mere hours before I got in the door, the Mac (Intel) beta
was pulled because of some build issues.  I guess that's why they're called
beta releases!  The Joost blog says we shouldn't have to wait too long for
another crack at it.

Ryan
HawaiiVOG

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Joost for Mac in Beta

2007-02-19 Thread sull
works as good as the pc version.


On 2/19/07, Ryan Kawailani Ozawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Woo! I may have gotten in through the generosity of a Mac-friendly
 Jooster, and if so, and if I ultimately find invites of my own to share, I
 certainly will pass on the love here on the list.

 Interestingly, mere hours before I got in the door, the Mac (Intel) beta
 was pulled because of some build issues. I guess that's why they're called
 beta releases! The Joost blog says we shouldn't have to wait too long for
 another crack at it.

 Ryan
 HawaiiVOG

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-- 
Sull
http://vlogdir.com (a project)
http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
http://interdigitate.com (otherly)


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[videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread humancloner1997
Josh, you can be critical of emotional responses someone expresses in 
frustration over pressing issues of life and death.  However, you 
really violate social civility by imputing evil intentions to an 
expressed passion to do good and save lives.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't check the group very often, and read maybe 3 emails out of 
50, so i
 probably skipped over your first one
 
 I think your methods for motivation are not thought out...
 
 Here is what you did:
 1. insulted an entire country

We Americans deserve to be criticized for spending 1% or 2% of our 
National budget on foreign aid while much poorer countries like 
Ireland contribute two or three times that percentage.

 2. insulted the videobloggers in that country

Saying members of a vlogging community that glorifies the values of 
sharing and helping seem unconcerned with two billion people who live 
on $1 a day  die by the millions simply because they don't have 
access to clean water is not insulting them. It is a challenge 
and wake-up call challenging them to do better.

 3. insulted the yahoo group they are members of

No one, no group should be offended if basically valid criticism is 
expressed in a socially impolite way. (You smoke cigarettes!  How 
stupid can you be?  Don't you know what they are doing to your body?)

 4. claim that all members of the group are only concerned with 
materialistic
 matters

Most human beings are only concerned with materialistic matters.  If 
you traveled in poor countries  saw women sleeping with her four 
children on the street with only cardboard boxes as covering against 
the cold, you'd have a more informed understanding of the hostility 
directed at selfish materialistic Americans.
 
 you need to re-think your methodology...
 
 I worry that your desire to help charity is equal to your desire to 
earn
 hits to popularize your site...

This is really an ugly personal attack.  Paul does incredible 
sophisticated vlogs that are largely ignored by the mindless mobs on 
the Internet.

 
 I think there are plenty of people interested in helping charitable 
causes
 but the way to get them involved is not to insult them because they 
didn't
 respond to your one email

We are all interested in helping charitable causes.  I set a 
several fund appeals aside around Christmas intending to send them 
contributions in varying amounts--Jimmy Carter, the Humane Society, 
Amnesty International, the Gay Community Center, etc.

Actually, the easiest thing in the world is to not act on your own 
charitable impulses.  I hadn't written the checks  Paul's 
frustration and emotional over-reaction at a total, absolute, zero 
response from the 2,500 or so people on the list motivated me to get 
those checks written and in the mail.

I felt so bad about Paul's zero response, I gave $20 just as a 
token of support even though I'm not familiar with that charity  am 
very selective about the groups I support financially.

Yes, Paul certainly wasn't politically correct socially.  I agree 
that his anger might have been counter-productive.  He's not going to 
be voted most popular vlogger of the year by folks on this list.

That said, I respect his genuine good intentions.  I don't know how 
much he will ultimately raise for his chosen charity but his anger 
reminded me of my own uncharitable negligence. He raised a lot more 
than $20 for all the causes listed above.

Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Hoboken, NJ

 
 
 
 
 On 2/17/07, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Please, please, please, just read the e-mail, that's all you 
need to
  do, please try to be completely un american about this and at 
least
  give me some help on this, I don't ask for much, just that you 
read
  the f'ing e-mail. All I want is support not money, I rally should 
be
  typing this is capital letters, really.
 
  JUST DIGG ME FOR f's SAKE, make this popular, not for me, BUT FOR 
THE
  CHARITY, that's how thing usually WORK right?
 
  And send me any jokes that you feel would make people belly laugh,
  there is an incentive for you all.
 
  But hey, I suppose all that motivates this group is money, or toys
  (gadgets) or a discussion about being banned from youtube, big 
deal,
  I just expected something more from the 1000's of people here, who
  are selfish enough not to share their success with anyone less 
worthy.
 
  The best way to proceed with this argument is to stop saying hey, 
I
  never saw the e-mail and taking steps, personally if you want to, 
to
  get these posts to greater media, posting diggs and technoriaties 
or
  comments on vlogs etc. This is one of the reasons i got into
  vlogging in the first place and to be ignored by the great and 
the
  Good ha, is just not good enough.
 
  I have seen it before in this clique, a community, ha!
  So log as you can't hold a get together in NY, you are forgotten 
and
  ignored.
  This group IS made up of more people from outside the US 

[videoblogging] Re: Your blogs, my friends?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Streeter
I just launched BillStreeter.net but it still needs some work. But I 
plan on blogging some of my production notes there as well as random 
bullshit that I think of. I am still tweeking the theme so be 
gentle. I also need to fill out the blogroll--It's a work in 
progress. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
and
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, J. Rhett Aultman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, guys.
 
 Amy and I are slowly starting to branch out beyond Freetime, and 
part of
 this has meant doing up the weatherlight.com website to reflect 
that we're
 slowly becoming a video productions group with a number of 
different
 projects.  We've created a blog (http://www.weatherlight.com/blog) 
where
 we talk about our experiences producing video projects, marketing, 
etc. 
 I'd like to fill our our blogroll with the production side blogs 
that
 others on here might have.
 
 Rather than browsing for all of them, though, I thought I'd just 
put out a
 call here.  If you have a behind the scenes or production side 
blog
 regarding your video project(s), we'd like to add it to our 
blogroll. 
 Please just email us off-list with your URL.
 
 --
 Rhett.
 http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime





[videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

2007-02-19 Thread Jay dedman
did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
http://tinyurl.com/36yefy
Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.

The good news for those who fear that technology is eroding personal
interaction is that many of the attendees said they came specifically
for some face-to-face interaction.

Jay

-- 
Here I am
http://jaydedman.com


Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

2007-02-19 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I had a really good time.

Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and talked
YouTube with a bunch of folks.

They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.

Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there.  Met a
bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the poop
about what they love about YouTube.  Did a couple interviews that I'll be
putting up later.

Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
push a certain groups together in the same room.  Plans are a-coming.

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
http://hatfactory.net
http://evilvlog.com


On 2/19/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
 http://tinyurl.com/36yefy
 Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Markus Sandy

On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Paul Knight wrote:


  Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to those
  who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions
  site on the Comic Relief website.


i clicked on the above link but kept getting an error message saying 
unable to complete the requested action

the other one seems to work ok:

http://www.rednoseday.com/onlinedonation/



here is a screencap of the error message

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=395777293size=o

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http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am so disappointed in You all.

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Knight
Yes Markus,

For some strange reason it happens to me to, could it be the server  
is down or something like that?  But thanks for publishing the donate  
page, that's really nice of you.

Just my luck that the server would go down just when I wanted to use  
it as proof, but hey, these things happen.

Paul Knight

On 19 Feb 2007, at 21:06, Markus Sandy wrote:


 On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Paul Knight wrote:

 
  Many thanks to those who have sent money to the charity, and to  
 those
  who have sponsored me through http://myrednoseday.com/pjkproductions
  site on the Comic Relief website.
 

 i clicked on the above link but kept getting an error message saying
 unable to complete the requested action

 the other one seems to work ok:

 http://www.rednoseday.com/onlinedonation/

 here is a screencap of the error message

 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=395777293size=o

 ---
 Markus Sandy
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow

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[videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
Howdy All,

Was just doing some research on social capital and I stumbled upon
Pledgebank.com. Excitement ensues...

It occurs to me that while it could be used as an even more open
alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog it could also be used quite
effectively in tandem with havemoneywillvlog.

I'm extremely interested in the relationship of social capital and
economic capital.  Which is to say the intangible combined assets of a
community such as trust, connectivity, etc, etc... and the
relationship between actual monetary capital.

HaveMoneyWillVlog has been a great experiment.  I wonder however if it
can't be replicated in a more distributed manner, and encourage more
creative, more fun... even a game like atmosphere.

My thoughts are as follows... skip down further for a fun example of
how pledgebank and havemoneywillvlog might combine to create more
creative fundraising.

1) Pledgebank is extremely interesting because unlike
HaveMoneyWillVlog ANY enterprising person can take the initiative and
start a pledge of their choice. For example... I'll pledge $1000 to X
project if 50 other people pledge $10 or more.

In this means a whole organic model for fund raising may be created.
All a project needs is a great sponsor or patron to take the
initiative. Eventually expertise and best practices will evolve.

In other words pledgebank is *flexible* enough and *open* enough to
handle wide experimentation necessary for innovation in this new field
of P2P funding.


2) Pledging to raise not just money but alternative social capital
for a project in the form of visibility, advertising, promotion, or
anything you can dream up.

Projects can be promoted through distributed means... blogging, shared
banners, email... each one of these channels can signify the trust of
the person promting it truely reflecting the communities social
capital/trust/karma and buy in.

Think of promoting a pledge as karma points (aka. whuffie, a Corey
Doctorow term, see wikipedia)... these links being a symbolic currency
of social capital, while that actual money is a the tangible
monetization of that capital  In that way the correlation between
the two can be endlessly explored and capitalized on... explored to
the point of gaming.

For example, I'll pledge $1 to X project for everyone who blogs about
the project.

This creative exploration between social capital and economic capital
could compound the effectiveness of campaigns to fund projects. :)

Again... this is not something that can currently be done with the
rigid havemoneywillvlog alone... all one can do is donate... or blog
about donating... and that's no fun. :)


3) ownership...  pledgebank, because anyone can get creative with
pledging,  allows more sense of ownership and involvement, more buy in
from the community since members know they to can start pledges and
not just buy in or agreeing to the intial contract... but BUILD on it.
 In essence getting creative with pledges can be a spirited part of
the game of fund raising itself keeping people involved in the process
until funding goals are met.


4) Transparency = following through.  I've heard many say that people
often welch on their pledges... this is the reason why
havemoneywillvlog processes money up front.  While to some degree I do
agree with this premise I also would like to note that Pledgebank is
transparent... it shows who pledges what.  This transparency (and a
little public scrutiny) should ensure follow through.

5) Pledgebank can have pledges on pledges... you could create another
pledge on someone elses pledge to encourage the main pledge... For
example the main pledge might be... I will pledge $1000 if 100 others
pledge at least $10... and another person may pledge, I will pledge
$100 if four other people will plege $100. This also illustrates how
Pledgebank can be used in tandem with HaveMoneyWillVlog... which is
maybe the best thing about it of all.

6) Pledgebank and HaveMoneyWillVlog in tandem!   As the above point
illustrates anyone could create a pledge on a HaveMoneyWillVlog
campaign to add an additional incentive to the pot, Pledgebank need
not be just an alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog.

7) Non-monetary pledges - In fact a pledge may not have anthing to dow
with money at all. Someone might pledge a peace of equipment to the
project, or some other promotional resource... I.E.  I'll  pledge the
use of my camera, if someone else pledges the use the use of their
car.  Or I'll pledge to work on this project on Saturday and Sunday,
if someone can help on Monday.  Or I'll pledge to cover the plane
ticket if someone else pledges to cover the hotel room.

8) Reputation  Reciprocity  it would be interesting if someone
could create a flickr of pledging where members could build
reputations for pledging, promoting, and creating successful pledges
building more transparency and value into the system and encouraging
reciprocation of good deeds.

I picture some day a site like blip or mefeedia having such a 

[videoblogging] Re: Elura 100 vs. Xacti C40 (and hello!)

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Moon
The Motion Director software was very easy to use.
1) Select the video, 
2) Adjust the last frame of the video that generally is the same as
the start
3) Processes the video, took about 5 minutes to go through the 1400+
frames 
4) Then it gave me the option to fine tune the matching overlapping
frame. Just drag and drop
5) Then go to the Trim option to square it up
6) done!

Very slick. 

You have seen it, but for others, this is a 360degree virtual view of
my backyard:
http://blip.tv/file/get/Moon-BackyardVirtualTour996.mov (Quicktime
required)

The software is very easy to use, but has it's flaws. As you can see
at the back, between the shed and the trees to the right, it's missing
about 30 feet. That's probably due to the similar shadows. But unless
I point it out, most wouldn't have noticed.

I can hardly wait until summer when I'll do another from the center of
the pool. :) 

With regards to the Xacti audio, I find it sounds hollow, tinny. With
the C40, it's an older model and doesn't come with a mic jack. 

But overall, I'm very happy with the video, specially for vlogging.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike
 
 The VR feature is pretty cool. The rotation was fluid. I found a
 refrence to the software smoothing out the pan. But could not find the
 online help for Motion Director.
 http://www.sanyo-xacti.com/support/manuals/CA6_Software_GB.pdf
 
 How long did it take to convert? How much hands on does the software
 require of the edit? By that I mean are you babysitting frame by frame
 to adjust for lags or bumps in the pan?
 
 Was that as wide as your xacti can zoom out?
 
 The xacti is impressing me, especially the price ...
 http://www.6ave.com/product.jsp?zipz=11001x=VPCC40w=1
 
 The audio on your xacti sounds pretty darn good (ignoring the wind
 noise), have you used the audio jack (for a external mic) and if so
 did you have problems like Halcyon has had with the plug needing to be
 fiddled with?
 
 What I am thinking about here is experimenting with two xacti's side
 by side. Not sure (e)xact(i)ly how I could do this but I am thinking
 3d. Make a short bar with the bottom of the bar attaching to the
 tripod and the top with two mountings for two xacties. There is a lot
  more to pulling this off (sync, software) but my first thought is
 this is kinda like any other mashup, just needs imagination.
 
 A couple of quick links
 http://www.stereo3d.com/vidrec.htm
 
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3656494784112768834
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Moon mgmoon@ wrote:
 
  Hey there,
  
  I just picked up a Xacti C40 a couple weeks ago as my MiniDV didn't
  like the cold weather (upwards of -30c). Like you I used a wideangle
  lens on my MiniDV.
  
  On the plus side I like the Xacti for it's small size, crisp video -
  even in low light and file format (.MP4). It's menu system is also
  easy to navigate. 
  The sound is not all that great and I wish it had a threaded lens
too. 
  
 
  I would recommend the Xacti C40 as a secondary camcorder as the price
  is cheap and the video is good.
  
  Mike
  http://vlog.mikemoon.net 
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jsmooth995 jsmooth995@
wrote:
  
   Hello hello, been lurking for a while now and gleaned lots of
insight
 
   I want to pick up a second camera that's easier to carry around,  
   
   Much thanks for any insights!
   Jay Smooth
   WBAI / hiphopmusic.com
  
 





Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

2007-02-19 Thread groups-yahoo-com
Cool. I'd love to see videos Schlomo.

I'd love to hear people wax poetic about why they love youtube.

Especially since I'm an old foggy and don't get these new kids. :)

Consider it ethnography

-Mike

On 2/19/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a really good time.

 Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and talked
 YouTube with a bunch of folks.

 They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
 everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.

 Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there.  Met a
 bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the poop
 about what they love about YouTube.  Did a couple interviews that I'll be
 putting up later.

 Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
 push a certain groups together in the same room.  Plans are a-coming.

 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
 http://hatfactory.net
 http://evilvlog.com


 On 2/19/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
did anyone on this list go to the Youtube event in SF?
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  Its very cool when people start meeting each other in person.
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Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

2007-02-19 Thread Michael Verdi
Hey Mike,
I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
 and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
around any community that they wish.

-Verdi

-- 
http://michaelverdi.com
http://spinxpress.com
http://freevlog.org
Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs


Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
On 2/19/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Mike,
 I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
 sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
 what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
 and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
 advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
  and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
 source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
 anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
 around any community that they wish.

 -Verdi

Didn't realize it was open source. I should pay more attention.

As for openess... I only meant by degree. And maybe opness is not the
right term.

Perhaps ease of intiating a project, or barrier to entry.   The
point is HMWV uses a traditional editorial mechanism... as it must...
because it has a very limited capacity... one project at a time...
whereas anyone can go to PledgeBank and intiate a  pledge in a moments
notice.  Apple's and oranges.

It's really like comparing a newspaper and myspace.  Even if the
newspaper is run by an advocacy group.

No negative connotations meant. I just meant to say we need MORE
mechanisms like have money will vlog so we can have more
experimentation.

-Mike


 --
 http://michaelverdi.com
 http://spinxpress.com
 http://freevlog.org
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Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

2007-02-19 Thread Michael Verdi
And you're missing that anyone can load up the plugin on a wordpress blog
and start their own project on a moments notice - forget about HMWV and the
advocates group. Half of the point is to show that it can be done so others
can replicate it.

- Verdi


On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On 2/19/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]michael%40michaelverdi.com
 wrote:
  Hey Mike,
  I agree that the type of pledging that can be done with Pledge Bank
  sounds fun and could be good to add to HMWV. I just want to clear up
  what sounds like some misconceptions you have about HMWV's openness
  and transparency. To be clear HMWV is open - anyone can join the
  advocates group - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/Advocates (password: share) -
  and promote a project. Even more, the Pledge Drive plugin is open
  source and freely available - http://hmwv.pbwiki.com/PledgeDrive - so
  anyone can start up their own version of Have Money Will Vlog in or
  around any community that they wish.
 
  -Verdi

 Didn't realize it was open source. I should pay more attention.

 As for openess... I only meant by degree. And maybe opness is not the
 right term.

 Perhaps ease of intiating a project, or barrier to entry. The
 point is HMWV uses a traditional editorial mechanism... as it must...
 because it has a very limited capacity... one project at a time...
 whereas anyone can go to PledgeBank and intiate a pledge in a moments
 notice. Apple's and oranges.

 It's really like comparing a newspaper and myspace. Even if the
 newspaper is run by an advocacy group.

 No negative connotations meant. I just meant to say we need MORE
 mechanisms like have money will vlog so we can have more
 experimentation.

 -Mike

 
  --
  http://michaelverdi.com
  http://spinxpress.com
  http://freevlog.org
  Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] improving on havemoneywillvlog

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
On 2/19/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Mike,

 I remember finding PledgeBank.com.
 I mentioned it on the HMWV list:
 http://groups.google.com/group/hmwv/browse_thread/thread/cbe351cc79e980d0/

Funny, I must see if I'm subscribed to HMWV because I did a gmail
search and found no mention of it in past emails.

 I like your ideas and they are inline with what I was working towards over
 on fundavlog.com experiment which was to be a companion service to HMWV.

 As for why the Crowdfunding wikipedia article got renamed... this happened
 just the other day because the article was suddenly marked for deletion.
 Instead, another wikipedia user went ahead and redirected it to a new Name -
 P2P Funding, which I do not like either.  PeerFunding isnt bad.  I think
 Crowdfunding works just as Crowdsourcing works.  But Wikipedians are anal
 about new terms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism).

Well, it's certainly not P2P funding. Was there something artlcle
there before? How about I redirect it to crowdfunding.

You could move it over to the new videoblogging pbwiki. I think it's a
much better home for it. I'm not sure about the longevity of anything
that hasn't been googled about 100,000 times on wikipedia. Sooner or
later someone is going to get a bug up their wazoo for deleting it.

-Mike

 Though I have shifted focus since last summer (fundavlog), I still see much
 potential in these progressive types of fundraising experiments.

 Sull


 On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Howdy All,
 
  Was just doing some research on social capital and I stumbled upon
  Pledgebank.com. Excitement ensues...
 
  It occurs to me that while it could be used as an even more open
  alternative to HaveMoneyWillVlog it could also be used quite
  effectively in tandem with havemoneywillvlog.
 
  I'm extremely interested in the relationship of social capital and
  economic capital. Which is to say the intangible combined assets of a
  community such as trust, connectivity, etc, etc... and the
  relationship between actual monetary capital.
 
  HaveMoneyWillVlog has been a great experiment. I wonder however if it
  can't be replicated in a more distributed manner, and encourage more
  creative, more fun... even a game like atmosphere.
 
  My thoughts are as follows... skip down further for a fun example of
  how pledgebank and havemoneywillvlog might combine to create more
  creative fundraising.
 
  1) Pledgebank is extremely interesting because unlike
  HaveMoneyWillVlog ANY enterprising person can take the initiative and
  start a pledge of their choice. For example... I'll pledge $1000 to X
  project if 50 other people pledge $10 or more.
 
  In this means a whole organic model for fund raising may be created.
  All a project needs is a great sponsor or patron to take the
  initiative. Eventually expertise and best practices will evolve.
 
  In other words pledgebank is *flexible* enough and *open* enough to
  handle wide experimentation necessary for innovation in this new field
  of P2P funding.
 
  2) Pledging to raise not just money but alternative social capital
  for a project in the form of visibility, advertising, promotion, or
  anything you can dream up.
 
  Projects can be promoted through distributed means... blogging, shared
  banners, email... each one of these channels can signify the trust of
  the person promting it truely reflecting the communities social
  capital/trust/karma and buy in.
 
  Think of promoting a pledge as karma points (aka. whuffie, a Corey
  Doctorow term, see wikipedia)... these links being a symbolic currency
  of social capital, while that actual money is a the tangible
  monetization of that capital In that way the correlation between
  the two can be endlessly explored and capitalized on... explored to
  the point of gaming.
 
  For example, I'll pledge $1 to X project for everyone who blogs about
  the project.
 
  This creative exploration between social capital and economic capital
  could compound the effectiveness of campaigns to fund projects. :)
 
  Again... this is not something that can currently be done with the
  rigid havemoneywillvlog alone... all one can do is donate... or blog
  about donating... and that's no fun. :)
 
  3) ownership... pledgebank, because anyone can get creative with
  pledging, allows more sense of ownership and involvement, more buy in
  from the community since members know they to can start pledges and
  not just buy in or agreeing to the intial contract... but BUILD on it.
  In essence getting creative with pledges can be a spirited part of
  the game of fund raising itself keeping people involved in the process
  until funding goals are met.
 
  4) Transparency = following through. I've heard many say that people
  often welch on their pledges... this is the reason why
  havemoneywillvlog processes money up front. While to some degree I do
  agree with this premise I also would like to note that Pledgebank is
  

Re: [videoblogging] The audience of ten

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
On 2/19/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can make blogger blogs public or accessable only by authors or by
 only people I choose.

 Is that enough?

No, not good enough. I think the closes we've come is yahoo groups, or
flickr groups. You can invite a bunch of members and speak directly to
them. Email.

I need to keep thinking about it.

-Mike

 Jan

 On 2/19/07, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 1/11/07, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey all,
  
   Since I started videoblogging, I have had this mantra about focusing on
  the
   audience of ten. To treat the audience of my videoblog as a circle of
   friends. Friends I would want to show what's going on in my life at the
   point. I have had this mantra because I, for instance, did not want to
  get
   lost in some numbers-increasing schemes.
  
   My question to you is: What amount of subscribers do you feel
  comfortable
   with?
  
   Of course, if you make a Show (insert sarcastic tone here), you only
  want
   more and more subscribers. But if you make a so-called personal
  videoblog,
   suddenly having 3000 subscribers might be a very scary thing.
  
   Me, I know that the amount of people who have technically subscribed to
  my
   feed is about 120. I must admit that even that number makes me feel the
   goosebumps sometimes. (Ok, I have a history of receiving nasty emails
   referring to videos I made as well, so I guess my personal paranoia is
   linked to that).
  
   If you are an individual who just make videos because you want to
  connect
   with others - do you sometimes feel that someone invide your privacy? If
   they leave nasty comments?
  
   Of course, many of the same issues dealing with text blogging or the
   internet itself applies to the videoblog. Things like: If you don't
  want
   certain people to find it, don't put it out there. That's simple. But
   still, we want to connect. Reach out.
  
   Am I nuts for feeling uncomfortable about the anonymous people lurking,
   watching my videos of ? Or does anyone else feel the same?
  
   Does this sort of paranoia lead to many of us posting less personal
  stuff
   and more often going for the more safe forms of videoblogging?S
  
   What do you think?
 
  This gives me an interesting thought. What if we could force the
  audience to be as visible to the content producer as the content
  producer is to them.
 
  I.E. what if in the context of a webservice like blip, or mefeedia or
  youtube... we could make your vlog only available to YOUR
  subscribers... and through the subscription mechanism make the
  viewership completely transparent to each other.
 
  You would of course need atleast SOME videos completely public
  othewise how would anyone be able to find you.
 
  You might also gain the ability to make your vlog invite only or even
  blacklist certain viewers.
 
  It may seem the same thing as a private yahoo or flickr group, but not
  exactly.. . because it's a new perspective.
 
  Furthermore what if we could apply this concept to the open vlogosphere.
 
  What if you could bless certain subscribers with full access to your
  personal conent or even better pick and choose from amongst your
  subscribers whom gets to see a certain post.
 
  This would require a bit more two way of an RSS mechanism.
 
  Perhaps the key is requiring people to signup to your wordpress vlog
  and then giving them a unique feed.  That way you might be able to
  track everything from who was watching what to who they are and what
  comments they were making... a whole sort of communications system
  that could simultaneously be open and closed on a very granular post
  by post person by person basis.
 
  Best of all this would not change things for the general public...
  they would see an RSS feed and a blog just like they always have,
  perhaps not even realizing that there's a whole host of private
  information not available to them.
 
  The key to this idea is in exploring the vast amount of space between
  explicit person to to person communications systems like a phone call,
  and the very open non-explicit communications like blogging.
 
  Some systems like Flickr already have primitive implimentations of this.
 
  I find this extremely interesting because I'm a firm believer in the
  idea that henceforth their will be an increasingly fluid line between
  explicit personal communications and so called shows with audiences
  in the hundreds of thousands even millions.
 
  I RELISH that idea that though the majoritity of my blog posts may be
  read by less than 100 people that... or my videos watched by less then
  100... that if I capture on video some pivitol even like a police
  tasering, or a freak natural occurance, or god knows what... that my
  platform could scale literally overnight bringing my words, thoughts,
  ideas, or footage to hundreds of thousands or millions.  It's in fact
  the sign of a healthy and fluid 

[videoblogging] Re: The audience of ten

2007-02-19 Thread Steve Watkins
Do youtube groups count as this sort of thing? And things like the
Organic Groups stuff for Drupal.  

Yahoo groups and similar are more than just direct speaking through
email, in the sense that the messages are on the web too and can be
set to be fully public, as with this group.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/19/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You can make blogger blogs public or accessable only by
authors or by
  only people I choose.
 
  Is that enough?
 
 No, not good enough. I think the closes we've come is yahoo groups, or
 flickr groups. You can invite a bunch of members and speak directly to
 them. Email.
 
 I need to keep thinking about it.
 
 -Mike




Re: [videoblogging] Youtube event in SF

2007-02-19 Thread Irina
yeah i wanna hear what they like about YouTube

On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Cool. I'd love to see videos Schlomo.

 I'd love to hear people wax poetic about why they love youtube.

 Especially since I'm an old foggy and don't get these new kids. :)

 Consider it ethnography

 -Mike


 On 2/19/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.com
 wrote:
  I had a really good time.
 
  Kairsten and I went down to Pier 39, on a pretty sunny afternoon, and
 talked
  YouTube with a bunch of folks.
 
  They had a scavenger hunt that didn't seem to ever get started, because
  everyone seems to enjoy just talking and meeting each other.
 
  Had a good talk with Mark Day, who was the only person I knew there. Met
 a
  bunch of local and not-so-local folks who are REALLY into shooting the
 poop
  about what they love about YouTube. Did a couple interviews that I'll be
  putting up later.
 
  Made me want to make another meetup at my place, and reinvigorated me to
  push a certain groups together in the same room. Plans are a-coming.
 
  Schlomo
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  http://evilvlog.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] thoughts on this?

2007-02-19 Thread Robyn Tippins
 

url:
http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-fi
nd-enough-online-video/?rss1 

 

Advertisers Seek but Can't Find Enough Online Video

Despite marketers' desire to buy ads within online video, they are having a
tough time expanding into the format, reports
http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049  Advertising Age. url:
http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049 

Interested buyers are reportedly saying limited inventory, specifically
content created exclusively for the web, is one factor that's holding them
back. Also, the audience for web video is, to date, too fragmented to meet
the needs of buyers looking for significant reach. The lack of a single
model for the buying and accounting of video ads is also cited as a
contributing factor.

The dollars for online video buying are expected to come from television
budgets, but until the online audience expands some marketers appear
unwilling to make that shift. Estimates have buyers spending just 10 percent
of their TV budget on streaming video by 2010, with most of that money going
toward professional content from mainstream media.

Bolt Media CEO Aaron Cohen says if independent producers are going to tap
into serious advertising dollars, there needs to be effective syndication of
content that can bring audience reach to niche videos.

Even so, the lack of a universal rating and measurement models continues to
be a stumbling block to advertisers who need to justify their expenditures. 

 



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RE: [videoblogging] Re: thoughts on this?

2007-02-19 Thread Robyn Tippins
Ha ha, thanks Bill, I thought I was finally getting it right.  Darn.

 

Robyn

 

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:43 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: thoughts on this?

 

--- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Robyn Tippins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 url:

http://www.marketin
http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-f
i gvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-fi
 nd-enough-online-video/?rss1 

note for the group: using  only works on long addresses if they're
both flush against the edges of the url with no spaces.

http://www.marketin
http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-f
ind-enough-online-video/?rss1
gvox.com/archives/2007/02/19/advertisers-seek-but-cant-find-enough-online-vi
deo/?rss1

 
 Advertisers Seek but Can't Find Enough Online Video
 
 Despite marketers' desire to buy ads within online video, they are
having a
 tough time expanding into the format, reports
 http://adage. http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049
com/digital/article?article_id=115049 Advertising
Age. url:
 http://adage. http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=115049
com/digital/article?article_id=115049 
 
 Interested buyers are reportedly saying limited inventory, specifically
 content created exclusively for the web, is one factor that's
holding them
 back. Also, the audience for web video is, to date, too fragmented
to meet
 the needs of buyers looking for significant reach. The lack of a single
 model for the buying and accounting of video ads is also cited as a
 contributing factor.

I agree with all three of those points. The inventory is very limited
as far as content that they can use for their purposes. It's not that
there aren't tons of videos. There aren't tons of videos that they
feel they can guarantee a ROI on.

Part of the reason for that is #2, that the audience is too
fragmented. People that frequent youtube are the main audience for
youtube videos, but not necessarily any other videos. Same thing for
Revver. Same thing for DailyMotion, etc. There's too much selection
to be able to guarantee that a certain number of eyeballs are going to
be on such-and-such video. If you can't guarantee the viewers, you
can't persuade the companies to buy advertisements on those videos for
any worthwhile amount of money.

Even if you could guarantee the eyeballs (views), there are a lot of
different ways to place ads on or around videos. There's no guarantee
that if someone sees the ad, they're going to click on it. If it's a
post-roll ad, there's no guarantee the person's going to watch the
video all the way to the end. Except in a very few cases, most of
which we know about already, there's nothing that will allow
advertisers to justify making the deals they want to make.

Even if you have the eyeballs on a video, there's no way to quantify
the demographics. If a video gets 100 views and 50 of them were from
8-year-olds with no buying power and no interest in clicking on
lawnmower ads after watching a video of a kid falling off of a
skateboard, the client isn't getting ROI, and the advertiser isn't
doing his/her job properly.

A lot of the behind-the-scenes of television is testing. 
Understanding the demographics. Understanding what group is likely to
watch your show from 8-8:30pm on Tuesday night. If you know a bunch
of 30-somethings are watching syndicated Seinfeld episodes (from the
data you collected in testing), you know who to go to to sell
advertising time... the companies that have products to sell to
30-somethings. You can't do that [yet] with the internet, because
there's no telling who's using what computer, and there's no telling
how many times that same person watched the same video. With
television, you know how many people watched the shows because they
all have accounts with the cable company. Maybe they all have special
boxes that take account of when they watch what and report it back to
a particular agency.

If you can't quantify the audience, you can't justify the $$,$$$
expenditure to your client. No sale. The reason Super Bowl ads are
so important is because so many people are GUARANTEED to be watching.
The ROI on the money spent on A) creating the ad, and B) buying the
air-time right before Prince performs live makes the whole proposition
worthwhile for everyone involved.

 The dollars for online video buying are expected to come from television
 budgets, but until the online audience expands some marketers appear
 unwilling to make that shift. Estimates have buyers spending just 10
percent
 of their TV budget on streaming video by 2010, with most of that
money going
 toward professional content from mainstream media.

That's where your Joost and other companies come in. You can watch
television without having a television. Choose 

[videoblogging] NYC meet up

2007-02-19 Thread Jay dedman
Markus, Ryanne, and I will be in NYC this week.
Thursday-Sunday.
we'll be running a workshop at the NYC Grassroots Film Festival:
http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/2007/02/nyc_grassroots_.html
Everyone is welcome to the event. Be a good place to share the knowledge.

Anyway...we'd love to have a meet up of videoboggers while we're in town.
I was thinking the evening of Sunday, Feb 25
Would that work for everyone?

Jay

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[videoblogging] call it a podcast or a vlog?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Shackelford
What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a 'podcast' or a 
'vlog'? Does it matter? 
Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)



[videoblogging] Re: call it a podcast or a vlog?

2007-02-19 Thread Gena
Bill, the short answer is anything you want to This has to rank as
one of the most contentious questions the group deals with from time
to time. Last I heard the following terms were/have been used:

vlog
vidcast
vidpodcast
podcast
v-cast
vodcast
video
internet tv
internet video
web video on a blog

and there are a few more that I have blocked from my short term
memory. All the above terms have specific meaning to the user and some
are inclusive and others are exclusive (in my opinion). 

Like vodcast (video on demand casting) I don't know. It sounds
corporate to me but a vlog that is something I'll check out. User
friendly as opposed to regurgitated.

I don't care what you can it just so I can see the results.

Gena

http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Shackelford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a
'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter? 
 Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)





Re: [videoblogging] call it a podcast or a vlog?

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Knight
Oh this old chestnut, not everyone likes to think their show is a  
videoblog or vlog, some have dragged themselves from the audio and  
make video podcasts instead, since portable media players such as  
ipods and alike came out its made it possible for vlogs and video  
podcasts and indeed vblogs (another term for vlog).  When you sign up  
for a feedburner account it asks you 'are you a podcaster' due to  
podcaster coming from the audio side a  few weeks before people  
started using video.  Some people prefer audio podcasting, as we are  
pretend or Virtual TV stars, they are Virtual or pretend Radio Stars.

Evolution of Web 2.0..Blog...Photoblogaudio  
podcastingvideo blogging, v-blog, video podcaster. what next? 
(what ever happened to those virtual reality machines?)

there we go the history of words in a nutshell.

Paul
On 20 Feb 2007, at 03:58, Bill Shackelford wrote:

 What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a  
 'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter?
 Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)


 



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[videoblogging] Re: call it a podcast or a vlog?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Shackelford
lol.. I will go with 'podcast' or make up a new word classify my feed :)

- Bill

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh this old chestnut, not everyone likes to think their show is a  
 videoblog or vlog, some have dragged themselves from the audio and  
 make video podcasts instead, since portable media players such as  
 ipods and alike came out its made it possible for vlogs and video  
 podcasts and indeed vblogs (another term for vlog).  When you sign up  
 for a feedburner account it asks you 'are you a podcaster' due to  
 podcaster coming from the audio side a  few weeks before people  
 started using video.  Some people prefer audio podcasting, as we are  
 pretend or Virtual TV stars, they are Virtual or pretend Radio Stars.
 
 Evolution of Web 2.0..Blog...Photoblogaudio  
 podcastingvideo blogging, v-blog, video podcaster. what next? 
 (what ever happened to those virtual reality machines?)
 
 there we go the history of words in a nutshell.
 
 Paul
 On 20 Feb 2007, at 03:58, Bill Shackelford wrote:
 
  What is the correct terminology for a video feed? Call it a  
  'podcast' or a 'vlog'? Does it matter?
  Also, what do I do with 'vblog' :)
 
 
  
 
 
 
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