RE: [videoblogging] Re: to buy a macbook pro or not?

[Devlon Duthie]

Damn, I was hoping for more reasons to get the cheaper one :)

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Verdi
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:13 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: to buy a macbook pro or not?

The 15" is not too much heavier than the 13" MacBook and on the plus side -
must haves are - better video card, can hold more ram, higher resolution
screen and matte screen option.
Also I'm not certain but I heard some new features of Final Cut Studio may
not run on the MacBook's video card.

- Verdi

On 7/12/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   What about the wieght difference between the pro and non? Worth it?
>
> I'm sick of lugging my wide-screen Vaio
> ...the small macbook looks tasty.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
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> videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ]
> On Behalf Of David Howell
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:29 AM
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: to buy a macbook pro or not?
>
> I just bought the new MacBook Pro (15.4", 2.4GHz) and Final Cut Pro 2.
>
> To say that I love it would be an understatement. I dont have any
> issues in FCP where I would say that the machine is lacking in any way.
>
> If you want mobility and power, go for it.
>
> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Michael Verdi"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to use Final Cut Pro and want to be mobile than a
> MacBook Pro is
> > certainly the way to go. I have the first version - 15.4", 2GHz -
> and I love
> > it. I've been using nothing but Apple laptops for editing since the
> G3 Pismo
> > came out 7 years ago.
> > - Verdi
> >
> > On 7/12/07, Miranda Leitsinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi everyone,
> > >
> > > i am one of the new people here. i have a really basic
> > > question: i am getting into video editing with the
> > > intent of making short docs that i will eventually
> > > want to put online. i am trying to decide if i should
> > > buy a macbookpro (the 2.4 ghz, with the 15.4 inch
> > > display). i am learning final cut pro but also know
> > > avid xpress. it just seems like life would be simpler
> > > with the mac.
> > >
> > > what do people think of the macbookpro? is it a must
> > > have for video editing, or is there something else out
> > > there i should look at?
> > >
> > > sorry for such a newbie question!
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > miranda
> > >
> > > __
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://spinxpress.com
> > http://freevlog.org
> > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: to buy a macbook pro or not?

[Devlon Duthie]

What about the wieght difference between the pro and non?  Worth it?

I'm sick of lugging my wide-screen Vaio
...the small macbook looks tasty.

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-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Howell
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:29 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: to buy a macbook pro or not?

I just bought the new MacBook Pro (15.4", 2.4GHz) and Final Cut Pro 2.

To say that I love it would be an understatement. I dont have any
issues in FCP where I would say that the machine is lacking in any way.

If you want mobility and power, go for it.

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you want to use Final Cut Pro and want to be mobile than a
MacBook Pro is
> certainly the way to go. I have the first version - 15.4", 2GHz -
and I love
> it. I've been using nothing but Apple laptops for editing since the
G3 Pismo
> came out 7 years ago.
> - Verdi
> 
> On 7/12/07, Miranda Leitsinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   hi everyone,
> >
> > i am one of the new people here. i have a really basic
> > question: i am getting into video editing with the
> > intent of making short docs that i will eventually
> > want to put online. i am trying to decide if i should
> > buy a macbookpro (the 2.4 ghz, with the 15.4 inch
> > display). i am learning final cut pro but also know
> > avid xpress. it just seems like life would be simpler
> > with the mac.
> >
> > what do people think of the macbookpro? is it a must
> > have for video editing, or is there something else out
> > there i should look at?
> >
> > sorry for such a newbie question!
> >
> > thanks,
> > miranda
> >
> > __
> > Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail -
quick,
> > easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://spinxpress.com
> http://freevlog.org
> Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> 
> 
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RE: [videoblogging] got any Xacti example vids?

[Devlon Duthie]

I think Markus uses an Xacti?  apperceptions.org

Or Verdi too, I think?

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Meade
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:16 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] got any Xacti example vids?

I've been thinking about the Xacti cameras lately (or others of similar
design), and have been trying to read up on them online.  Unfortunately all
the user reviews usually have the same problems:

 1) EXTREME (polar opposite) opinions on video quality in the same forum
 2) No actual video to back up either opinion :-P

I know a lot of folks here use Xacti or similar form factor cameras ... but
we don't often know the camera being used by someone when we watch their
vlog ...

So, I was wondering if some folks with various models of xacti (or similar
form factor) cameras could reply here with which model you use, and a link
to an example video.

I'm basically trying to see the actual end result video from the various
models.  Indoor lighting vs outdoor, color quality, etc etc etc  But if you
want to include other information such as battery life / gripes /etc that
would be most welcome as well. :-)

I've read on this list that some people are disappointed with the sound
these cameras capture ... I'm wondering how it compares to using internal
mics on other cameras though ... worse than normal or just the standard
"internal mics suck"?


Thanks in advance,
 - Dave

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RE: [videoblogging] My new video obsession....

[Devlon Duthie]

I am enjoying the video on 'the facebook' a lot.  One thing that I noticed,
is that I can't get rss out, etcand I was kind of ok with that?

Is the heat getting to me, I mean media, locked up behind a login.

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-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rupert
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:34 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] My new video obsession

I started watching earlier today, but got interrupted.  Happy Birthday!

It's like the iSight was built for you, Schlomo.  Very few people  
could make films as entertaining as that with their MBPs.  I bet no  
one else's MBP iSight videos will get shown at Pixelodeon next year.

And it feels different somehow that it's on Facebook... sorry - "the  
Facebook".  Nicer forum for it than just a mass video sharing site or  
a blog.  (that reminds me - I saw on Viddler they're giving away  
iPhones to people who make 30 second MeToday videos this month.)

What you say makes total sense to me - the immediacy and satisfaction  
of it.  It's been low maintenance creative fun for me to snap stuff,  
cut it occasionally in the phone and just send it off.   You only  
have to worry about what's in front of the camera - you haven't got  
half your brain in the future, thinking about downloading,  
compressing, uploading, posting, etc and whether what you're shooting  
is worth the effort down the line.  So it just frees you to just Do  
Stuff.  The little creative muscles need flexing as well as the big  
ones.

Not that mine would be as fun as yours, but I'd love to be able to do  
it. God DAMN, i wish i could afford a Macbook Pro (the phone i use  
was a free upgrade btw, and the phone plan is pretty average - all  
data goes via regular wifi).  I am in webcam hell with this  
Powerbook.  The other night i had to use my big old XL1 DV camera as  
a webcam for the flashmeeting - and then it ran out of battery.  And  
I'd left the power cord somewhere.

Anybody have a Powerbook with a webcam that actually works well?   
With iChat, etc?  Care to let me know what it is??

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/


On 6 Jul 2007, at 18:26, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

Hey all

Lately my small life has become consumed with making videos on the
Facebook. I'm not sure why.. you dont get stats, you cant see who has  
been
watching them, and you don't get an RSS feed. In fact, all you can do is
record into the web browser and tag it with your friends names if  
they are
in the video-- you cant even make up your own tags!!

But its become a very intimate connector for me. It's like Ruperts
Twittervlog, but without the expensive camera and monthly phone plan.

Blip.tv used to have a similar feature early-on that only worked in  
Safari.
I remember using it in a similar way, but the Facebook version is really
well done and should be abused by all videobloggers!

Its strange, but for some reason I enjoy making these sorts of videos  
this
way, but on my personal site I want to make stories in a different way.
With the In-Browser Recording, I like to just communicate in an instant
messenger sort of way. Does that make sense to anyone else? It's the
immediacy of the process that I enjoy (again, it helps me understand why
Rupert and Steve get excited about their phones)

Anyway, here are the couple I've done: <
http://www.facebook.com/video/?id=880965647>

I encourage you to make some of your own! Right now!

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://weknowhow.tv
http://winkshow.com
http://hatfactory.net

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RE: [videoblogging] Lies, Damned Lies And Statistics

[Devlon Duthie]

Stat tracking for media is a bitch.  

Content can be linked in and pulled around by so many aggregators,
rss-forwarders, etc. that one single piece of media can appear in 10
different places quite easily.

I have no solid suggestions yet :) but this is a conversation dear to my
heartand all my pulled out hair.


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-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rupert
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:06 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Lies, Damned Lies And Statistics

I'm on a roll, today.

I'd like to suggest that more of us should try to be open about how  
many views we get.  I mean, not *all* of us, obviously.  There are  
those of us who won't want to say for commercial or other reasons.

But I keep hearing people worrying about how few views they're  
getting.  And I'm sure that part of their worry is that other people  
are getting far more.  And I'm not sure that that's true.  I'd bet  
any money that 99% of the people on this list get two figure views  
for all their videos combined per day.  And I'd bet the majority get  
single figure views per day.

This is important in the discussion of monetizing videoblogging, too,  
perhaps.

I think Youtube has distorted expectations - by its nature, it  
attracts clusters of people to feast on certain featured & popular  
videos in a way that's quite different to what a lot of us are  
doing.  And as Mark Day said last week, even on Youtube the really  
big view numbers are rare.

Personally, I don't think that getting just a few people per day or  
per week is bad at all.  Your films are still being seen by more  
people than they would if you were taking them to a local film night,  
or showing them in a local gallery, which was the only forum for them  
before the web.

And you're actually connecting with the people who are watching them,  
in a way that wouldn't happen otherwise.  And probably in a more  
profound way than you would if you had 1000 people all wanting to  
talk to you.

You don't have to join in this game - it's not Truth or Dare! - but  
to get the ball rolling, here are my own stats.

They're a bit weird compared to most, probably, because I only  
started Twittervlog 3 months ago, I've made 89 videos in that time  
and I pimp it all the time on Twitter - that must be where I get most  
of my views.

I feel it's been successful on a personal level - I've met all sorts  
of great people and it's been a lot of fun.  But featured status on  
Youtube - or even on Blip - it ain't.

I have posted 89 films.  With 14,000 views in total.  That's an  
average of 150 per film.  I figure - what? - half of those have  
actually watched the video to the end?

25 videos ( a third of them) have less than 100 views in total

another 57 videos (almost two thirds) have between 100 and 250

and only 7 have more than 250 - all of these have been featured  
somewhere, like The End of Pixelodeon, or the Vlog Deathmatch video.

The Vlog Deathmatch video is the most popular, and has topped out at  
765 views.  Which is a fraction of what Irina and The Burg's total  
votes were, I'm sure!  At the end of the Deathmatch, I think it'd had  
350 or so views.

The only Youtube context I can give to this is the Flashmob video,  
which has had 13,000 views on Youtube, and 746 on my site.

Oh, and I now have around 50 or so subscribers (Feedburner number).

I don't know - maybe I'm wrong and you're all getting thousands and  
thousands of views for every film you make... but my heart tells me  
that's not so... and if it isn't, do we average non-commercial  
videobloggers need to readjust our expectations?

Is getting 100 views on a video after it's been out there for a few  
months really so bad?  Imagine those 100 people in your local bar or  
in your house!  That's quite a lot of people.  And then add all your  
videos together.  You've made 50?  And they average 100 views in the  
end?  That's 5000 in total!  And 5000 was a big number for Jesus... :)

I remember a time when we complained about people's Feedcounters, and  
the pressure of popularity that comes with people talking about  
statistics.  I hate that.  But on the other hand, it's terrible if  
everybody thinks that they can't say how many viewers they have  
because they'd be perceived as unpopular and unsuccessful.

I'd be really interested on your thoughts about this.

Rupert

http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/




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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

[Devlon Duthie]

I'm with Carl.  

If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy be more
effective?

also, just saying :)

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-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan  
deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but  
to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so  
Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?

I'm just sayin'...

Carl

Carl Weaver
Photographer
http://www.carlweaver.com
http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips and more
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places
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Michael Sullivan wrote:
>
> no comment
>
> except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort to pay
lan
> before podtech does.
> care for some competition, podtech?
>
> lan, how much do we need to raise?






 
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RE: [videoblogging] Non Commercial vlog funding experiment

[Devlon Duthie]

If you are on a Wordpress blog I think you could use showinabox.tv to get
that functionality?

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of caminofilm
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:30 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Non Commercial vlog funding experiment

If I'm to continue with my vlog, I really need to start making some
money, so I can justify the time spent NOT working on other commercial
projects that feed me.

So I have set up a fundable pledge, whereby viewers and subscribers to
my vids, can donate to allow me the time and resources to edit another
month of stories. 

I'm sure there are many in this group interested in following this
experiment

Mark
www.overlander.tv





 
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RE: [videoblogging] MeFeedia - Can Ping It But CANNOT Log Onto It

[Devlon Duthie]

Thanks David,

 

But I'll add an update :)  

 

We're going to be moving to a new location shortly so we can leave these
problems in the dust.

 

Thanks for the patience.

 

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From: David Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:01 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MeFeedia - Can Ping It But CANNOT Log Onto It

 

Hi Patrick -

  The hosting company that hosts MeFeedia has had some (extremely
frustrating) issues lately.  It's not you, its the hosting company.  The
site should be back up shortly, and you'll be able to add your feed then.  

  We're in touch with the hosting company now, and there are aggressive
plans already in motion to ensure this sort of problem doesn't bother us
much longer.

  Thanks for your patience.  Feel free to join the MeFeedia user list if you
haven't already ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mefeedia-users/) ... we'll
be sure to send an update once we get those "aggressive plans" completed.
:-)

Thanks for the heads up, and I look forward to seeing you on MeFeedia! 

- Dave

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On 6/25/07, Patrick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everyone:

Is it just me or has the MeFeedia website gone AWOL?  I can ping the
domain and get packets back, but CANNOT for some strange reason LOG
ONTO the website (I'm wanting to add the RSS Feed of my TV show to the 
MeFeedia listings).

I know it's not me as I can connect to other websites without a
problem.  I even power cycled my cable modem to see if that was the
problem (It wasn't).  I've tried connecting using IE, Safari For 
Windows & Firefox (I've also got SeaMonkey & Netscape 9, but I don't
think they'd fare any better).

All three browsers seem to get hung up in the WAITING FOR
http://www.mefeedia.com/ mode.

I hope it's just me, but something tells me it's not

Just a inquirous piece of information :D

Cheers :D

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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress and blogger

[Devlon]

This is so cool.  I remember back at vloggercon last year and in
Kenyatta's session on mapping the future...this was one of the topics
on the board...(I think it was mine even!)

The tools need to make it easier to videoblogand it only took a
year for blogger to hop up :)  But we didn't wait for them! (vPip,
Vlogsposion, showinabox, etc.)

Ah, group hug.

-Devlon

On 6/17/07, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm still hoping Matt/WordPress will someday soon be able to publish
> my videos straight from my head.  But then, I'm a dreamer.
>
> Show in a Box, huh?  Sounds like the next-best thing, for now...Thanks
> for the reminder, Jay.
> 
Harold
>
> On 6/15/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info Jay, Im using wordpress myself, and I'm very happy
> > with the blip.tv/wordpress >combo, but good to know what is out there
> >
> > I think the WP/blip combo is powerful since blip is so good at
> > multiple formats (especially now with Pro acccounts).
> >
> > check out showinabox.tv.
> > we need to do more documentation, but the idea is to build a better WP
> > theme with all the right plug-ins to showcase video better...help
> > build a community around the videosand figure out an alternative
> > way to fund consistent video work from the viewers in the NPR model.
> >
> > Showinabox community is here: http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box
> > here's our plans: http://showinabox.pbwiki.com/
> >
> > jay
> >
> > --
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> > http://jaydedman.com
> >
> > Check out the latest project: http://politicalvideo.org
> > 500 hours of George Bush speeches!!
> > Search, download, remix!!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor

[Devlon Duthie]

:) cool. 

Hm...I wonder if we could get a feed of all the blogs from vlogging 
related sites/services (blip, feedburner, dtv, mefeedia, vlogmap, 
vlogdir, etc, etc., etc.)like a feed of updates, news, etc.

Thanks,
Devlon



Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> OK... I've rearranged things a bit.
>
> How does the ordering look now to everyone?
>
>
>
> On 6/2/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Very cool.
>>
>>  If loadedpun.com's stuff could be at the bottom of that page...it might
>>  make more sense...it hasn't been updated for months and I doubt it ever
>>  will.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  Devlon Duthie
>>  http://devlonduthie.com
>>
>>  Find great independent video:
>>  http://mefeedia.com
>>
>>
>>  Cheryl wrote:
>>  > This is really cool - I like it. Unless I'm mistaken, you missed 2
>>  > things... Jan of FauxPress and I and probably others have been using
>>  > these del.icio.us tags to bookmark vlog news items:
>>  >
>>  > http://del.icio.us/tag/vlogpresskit (for news about vlogging in general)
>>  >
>>  > http://del.icio.us/tag/vloggersinthenews (for when we spot vloggers in
>>  >  news items)
>>  >
>>  > Can you aggregate those into the mix at vlograzor.com?
>>  >
>>  > Also, anyone here can add those tags to their own del.icio.us
>>  > bookmarks in order to add to the stream. I think that's cool!
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  > Cheryl Colan
>>  >
>>  > hummingcrow.com
>>  > node101phoenix.org
>>  > whatwefound.blogspot.com
>>  >
>>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
>>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> You can get all the Vlogging News on One Page with...
>>  >>
>>  >> Vlog Razor
>>  >> http://vlograzor.com/
>>  >>
>>  >> Good for
>>  >>   * People who like to see all the news summarized on one page.
>>  >>   * People who don't like using Feed aggregators
>>  >>   * People who don't have their Feed aggregators with them (at work,
>>  >>
>>  > on the
>>  >
>>  >> road, etc)
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> See ya
>>  >>
>>  >> --
>>  >> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>>  >>
>>  >> charles @ reptile.ca
>>  >> supercanadian @ gmail.com
>>  >>
>>  >> developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  > __
>>  >
>>  >>  Make Television
>>  >>
>>  > http://maketelevision.com/
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  > __
>>  >
>>  >>  Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing...
>>  >>
>>  > http://tirebiterz.com/
>> 
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: All the Vlogging News on One Page - Vlog Razor

[Devlon Duthie]

Very cool.

If loadedpun.com's stuff could be at the bottom of that page...it might 
make more sense...it hasn't been updated for months and I doubt it ever 
will.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Cheryl wrote:
> This is really cool - I like it. Unless I'm mistaken, you missed 2
> things... Jan of FauxPress and I and probably others have been using
> these del.icio.us tags to bookmark vlog news items:
>
> http://del.icio.us/tag/vlogpresskit (for news about vlogging in general)
>
> http://del.icio.us/tag/vloggersinthenews (for when we spot vloggers in
>  news items)
>
> Can you aggregate those into the mix at vlograzor.com?
>
> Also, anyone here can add those tags to their own del.icio.us
> bookmarks in order to add to the stream. I think that's cool!
>
> --
> Cheryl Colan
>
> hummingcrow.com
> node101phoenix.org
> whatwefound.blogspot.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> You can get all the Vlogging News on One Page with...
>>
>> Vlog Razor
>> http://vlograzor.com/
>>
>> Good for
>>   * People who like to see all the news summarized on one page.
>>   * People who don't like using Feed aggregators
>>   * People who don't have their Feed aggregators with them (at work,
>> 
> on the
>   
>> road, etc)
>>
>>
>> See ya
>>
>> -- 
>> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>>
>> charles @ reptile.ca
>> supercanadian @ gmail.com
>>
>> developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
>>
>> 
> ___
>   
>>  Make Television   
>> 
> http://maketelevision.com/
>   
>> 
> ___
>   
>>  Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing...  
>> 
> http://tirebiterz.com/
>   
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>> 
>
>
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>
>  
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Re: [videoblogging] A Webby Request: 5 Clever Words

[Devlon Duthie]

"It's a small world...again"?

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Nathan Freitas wrote:
> Media permalinks make us happy.
>
> Jeroen Wijering rules.
>
> Pro accounts for sale now!
>
> +nathan
>
> On 5/31/07, dinarebecca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   Hi you guys!
>>
>> Wanted to solicit some help for our five-word (or less) acceptance
>> speech at the Webbies.
>>
>> Justin has the best one I've heard so far: "Please. Keep. Uploading."
>>
>> Does anyone have any other thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
>>
>> (Also, the tickets are insane this year, so if anyone - by any chance
>> - has an extra ticket we would LOVE to buy that from you and will be
>> forever and ever and ever grateful!)
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>
>> Dina
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Political Video

[Devlon Duthie]

I have a PC that sits here and does very little all day besides load 
different browsers...but his instructions are for Mac.

I don't think I have time to get it figured out though, so if any PC 
users do, post the steps somewhere and I can help.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Jay dedman wrote:
>>  I could *probably* help out, but it'd have to be with the help of
>>  Skype (I have a capturing program that will record Skype calls WITH
>>  VIDEO).
>>  I'm not sure about this (As I haven't actually worked with the two
>>  applications hand in hand as of yet), but I think as long as I disable
>>  the sending of my own video (Otherwise we'd probably get my video as a
>>  "watermark" in one of the lower corners, which of course we don't want
>>  :) ).
>> 
>
> thanks Pat.
> for now..we're looking for people who have a dedicated machine for a week.
> we first need to get all the material.
>
> we'll then need help adding metadata to the videos..so that's where
> you could help out.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

[Devlon Duthie]

I third it.

Thanks,
Devlon



David Howell wrote:
> I second NYC.
>
> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> 1 vote for NYC
>>
>> On 4/25/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've got an idea.  Democracy!
>>>
>>>   
>>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] RSS feed

[Devlon Duthie]

In windows I right-click on the podcast, and choose 'show description'
...and it's at the top of the new pop up window that displays.

Thanks,
Devlon


Steve Garfield wrote:
> good question!
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 8:18 PM, lintoncitos wrote:
>
>   
>> How do you determine the RSS feed of a podcast on itunes?
>>
>> With friendly greetings,
>>
>>
>> Linton
>>
>> http://counselingexam.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> --
> Steve Garfield
> http://SteveGarfield.com
>
>
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Great videoblogging week mashup!

[Devlon Duthie]

A little birdie told me that there are bunch here: 
http://videobloggingweek.mefeedia.com/

Thanks,
Devlon



Rupert wrote:
> from xolo.tv
> at
> http://watchme.xolo.tv/
>
> lots of my favorite moments (some *cough* are missing)... but so much  
> I still haven't seen!  How am I ever going to see it all??
>
> Did we get any tallies of the total number of vids at the end of the  
> week?
>
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
> http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] will ferrel

[Devlon Duthie]

Sorry Rupert, I got what you meant.

My reply was more to Andrew's post :)

...letting it die now.

Thanks,
Devlon



Rupert wrote:
> Uh, yeah, I was tongue in cheek responding to Andrew's slightly  
> tongue in cheek question.  Because i'm sure everyone finds those long  
> energetic debates about 'what is a videoblog' so much fun.
>
> Anyway, there *is* no feed there.  They just want you to go to their  
> site.
>
> So.  No blog format, no feed for podcasting... is he really a ... ;)
>
>
> On 17 Apr 2007, at 16:05, Devlon Duthie wrote:
>
> ummight also have been just looking for the rss ;) to subscribe,  
> etc.
>
> Sometimes it's near impossible to find on some sites.
>
> Thanks,
> Devlon
>
> Rupert wrote:
>  > oh good, that's really lifted my spirits. i'd been hoping we'd have
>  > this discussion again soon.
>  > :)
>  >
>  > On 17 Apr 2007, at 14:55, andrew michael baron wrote:
>  >
>  > 2 years later, does the question still apply? No feed = no videoblog?
>  >
>  > :)
>  >
>  > On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:39 AM, joshpaul wrote:
>  >
>  > > Is there a feed? I couldn't find one.
>  > >
>  > > On 4/17/07, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > is now a videoblogger :) Some of ours are funnier though.
>  > > >
>  > > > http://funnyordie.com
>  > > >
>  > > > Peter
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
>  > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > joshpaul
>  > >
>  > > o: 818-237-5200
>  > > c: 818-667-0900
>  > > w: joshpaul.com
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] will ferrel

[Devlon Duthie]

ummight also have been just looking for the rss ;)  to subscribe, etc.

Sometimes it's near impossible to find on some sites.

Thanks,
Devlon



Rupert wrote:
> oh good, that's really lifted my spirits. i'd been hoping we'd have  
> this discussion again soon.
> :)
>
> On 17 Apr 2007, at 14:55, andrew michael baron wrote:
>
> 2 years later, does the question still apply? No feed = no videoblog?
>
> :)
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:39 AM, joshpaul wrote:
>
>  > Is there a feed? I couldn't find one.
>  >
>  > On 4/17/07, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > is now a videoblogger :) Some of ours are funnier though.
>  > >
>  > > http://funnyordie.com
>  > >
>  > > Peter
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
>  > > my job: http://petervandijck.net
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > --
>  > joshpaul
>  >
>  > o: 818-237-5200
>  > c: 818-667-0900
>  > w: joshpaul.com
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mefeedia question

[Devlon Duthie]

Hi David, send me an email off-list and I'll get it straight for you :)

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



David King wrote:
> Sorry I'm being dense about this - but where do those two keyword fields
> show up (the media and the itunes:keywords feeds)? I'm not seeing how to
> access those in mefeedia, blogger, or in feedburner or blip... am I missing
> something?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> David
>
> On 3/31/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   Hi David,
>>
>> Thanks for the question. On tagging, we look at several places in the
>> feed:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> and reltag (Devlon would have to answer the specifics there).
>>
>> For example, in your RSS feed, I found this:
>>
>> davidleeking,experienceplanning,videoblogging
>>
>> davidleeking,experienceplanning,videoblogging
>>
>> So the easiest way to remove the "experienceplanning" tag is to remove
>> the keyword.
>>
>> In the near future, we are planning a "feed claiming" feature that
>> will allow you to manipulate your feed(s) directly in Mefeedia.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Frank
>>
>> Frank Sinton
>> CEO, Mefeedia
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
>> http://www.mefeedia.com - Find, watch, and share great videoblogs
>> Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "David King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tagging - how do I remove a tag from my videos? Most of my videos (
>>> http://mefeedia.com/feeds/7059) there have "experienceplanning" as a
>>>   
>> tag...
>> 
>>> but that's not really accurate!
>>>
>>> >>   
>> know?> :-)
>> 
>>> --
>>> David King
>>> davidleeking.com - blog
>>> http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>   
>>  
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: NewTeeVee Request for reactions to "State of Vlogosphere"

[Devlon Duthie]

Don't forget, Mefeedia is driven by user-added feeds.  People add feeds 
to Mefeedia because they want to pull media in from different sources to 
get their fill.  So the numbers would never be indicative of 'whats out 
there' (have fun with that task), but more importantly...what are people 
indexing?  And from what distribution channels.  I don't think the focus 
of those numbers were meant to be on where the video is hostedit's 
about distribution, not housing.

I look forward to making the numbers more granular so we can answer 
questions like, who tags what where, why, whenin association with 
what else...Once geolocation picks up more (we index this now as well) 
in feed meta we can start seeing global hot spots (besides the obvious) 
that is a different view on things than an excellent site like 
vlogmap.org (which is another old-timer in this area)

One interesting thing that comes out of these numbers is maybe youtube 
does a good enough job of aggregating that type of content on it's own 
site...so viewers don't need to set them up in an aggregator

...a theory...

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Jackson West wrote:
> Here's my piece.  Thanks to everyone for their questions and feedback, and
> Frank for answering my questions about the report and participating in the
> conversation.
>
> http://newteevee.com/2007/03/30/mefeedia-tracks-huge-growth-in-vlogs/
>
> Comments are open and always appreciated.
>
> Best,
>
> JW
>
>
>   
>   

Re: [videoblogging] It's Official, We Won

[Devlon Duthie]

Congrats!  I love the ninja.

--
Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Kent Nichols wrote:
> Hey Guys:
>
> Just wanted to thanks again to the community.  Your support, guidance,
> and friendship has been invaluable to Douglas and myself.
>
> I only hope we can give back more than we've received.
>
> -K,
>
> Cross posted from: http://www.askaninja.com/node/3220
>
> Well, Thank you.
>
> Thanks to our fans from AskANinja.com, Myspace.com, Digg.com, iTunes,
> YouTube.com and everywhere else.com.
>
> Because of your efforts we won  href="http://youtube.com/ytawards";>Best Series of 2006 on YouTube.
>  A YouTubey.
>
> The media has been calling a lot today, so keep your eyes peeled for
> the Ninja.
>
> :)
>
> Not to get too corny, but the key is YOU.  You send in the questions.
>  You keep us pumped about what we're doing.
>
> When we started Ask A Ninja, Douglas and I were at the lowest point of
> our careers.  We had nothing but an inspiration to start a gmail account.
>
> And you sent in questions, we started laughing and then the whole
> world came in on the joke. 
>
> So thank you.  We owe you a lot and I hope we can continue to
> entertain you for years to come.
>
> -Kent, Douglas, and the Ninja
>
>
>
>  
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Devlon Duthie]

Thanks Jan, that's a better way of what I was trying to say.  Use all 
the main tagging services you can handle, not just one.

I think we've fixed up the blogger->mf formatting, please let me/us know 
if you see something that looks goofy.

The new changes related to tagging involve parsing the description, 
content and content:encoded of the rss item/post for rel="tag" (this 
should be in everyone's workflow imho) as well as adding keywords from 
media:keywords, media:category and itunes:keywords.

I was pretty surprised how many people don't tag their clips.

(...sorry sull, it's a very bad, bad morning...mea culpa?)

--
Devlon



Jan McLaughlin wrote:
> Let's use all the tagging services (Blip, Mefeedia, Delicious, Technorati)
> and see which keeps track best.
>
> Take half a dozen vloggers who post every day of VBW and first thing 4/8 run
> 'em through the test mill with screenshots of the results
>
> Mefeedia's gonna have to do something outstanding to have me drag them back
> into my burgeoning workflow.
>
> It kinda lost me when the formatting from Blogger --> Mefeedia stopped
> translating well. I couldn't bear to look at the destruction the cross-post
> wrought.
>
> Do Mefeedia and Technorati read / recognize Blip's tags?
>
> Jan
>
> On 3/25/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hey sull,
>>
>> That wasn't my point, and (that time) I wasn't even touting Mefeedia.
>>
>> I just remember all the fuss last year when technorati wasn't keeping up
>> with the tags...and that I missed the discussion, was curious to hear
>> what wonderous things had been discussed.
>>
>> Since we figured there might be a lapse in tag tracking this year, we
>> have spent a bit of effort to see if we can keep up with
>> Videobloggingweekand some of that effort has been in rounding out
>> the tags that we parse from the rss post.  So, the short answer, is we
>> track tags as they come in from the posts and also you can tag clips at
>> Mefeedia.
>>
>> ...and you don't have to enlighten me on how this community works sull,
>> I know all too well :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Devlon
>>
>>
>>
>> sull wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd love to see more people get behind and support mefeedia.
>>> But this "community" doesnt work that way (not even the active 8%).
>>> And nor should they nec be groupies to a broad interpretation of Net
>>>   
>> Video
>> 
>>> Culture.
>>> It's not easy sustaining a community of people solely on the premise of
>>> technology adoption.
>>>
>>> Still, mefeedia will be involved with vbw07 in some way or another...
>>> Lists, Guides, tags
>>>
>>> Remind me, does mefeedia track tags from blog posts or do you have to
>>>   
>> tag
>> 
>>> stuff locally on mefeedia site?
>>>
>>> Sull
>>>
>>> On 3/24/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>>   Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for
>>>> tracking our tags?
>>>>
>>>> -Devlon
>>>>
>>>> Josh Leo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007
>>>>>
>>>>> I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> other
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> far
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins
>>>>>
>>>>> we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some
>>>>>   
>> other
>> 
>>>>> details.
>>>>>
>>>>> so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Devlon Duthie]

Hey sull,

That wasn't my point, and (that time) I wasn't even touting Mefeedia.

I just remember all the fuss last year when technorati wasn't keeping up 
with the tags...and that I missed the discussion, was curious to hear 
what wonderous things had been discussed.

Since we figured there might be a lapse in tag tracking this year, we 
have spent a bit of effort to see if we can keep up with 
Videobloggingweekand some of that effort has been in rounding out 
the tags that we parse from the rss post.  So, the short answer, is we 
track tags as they come in from the posts and also you can tag clips at 
Mefeedia.

...and you don't have to enlighten me on how this community works sull, 
I know all too well :)

Thanks,
Devlon



sull wrote:
> I'd love to see more people get behind and support mefeedia.
> But this "community" doesnt work that way (not even the active 8%).
> And nor should they nec be groupies to a broad interpretation of Net Video
> Culture.
> It's not easy sustaining a community of people solely on the premise of
> technology adoption.
>
> Still, mefeedia will be involved with vbw07 in some way or another...
> Lists, Guides, tags
>
> Remind me, does mefeedia track tags from blog posts or do you have to tag
> stuff locally on mefeedia site?
>
> Sull
>
> On 3/24/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for
>> tracking our tags?
>>
>> -Devlon
>>
>> Josh Leo wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007
>>>
>>> I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps
>>>   
>> other
>> 
>>> people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So
>>>   
>> far
>> 
>>> all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins
>>>
>>> we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some other
>>> details.
>>>
>>> so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>  
>>
>> 
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] vlogweek '07 update

[Devlon Duthie]

Did I miss the discussion on depending on technorati this year for 
tracking our tags?

-Devlon



Josh Leo wrote:
> Ok folks, we are one week away from Videobloggingweek2007
>
> I usually don't do themes for videoblogging week, but i know it helps other
> people so lets knock out some ideas for themes adn then pick them. So far
> all I have seriously heard was the 7 deadly sins
>
> we have agreed on the technorati tag, now we need to nail out some other
> details.
>
> so what do we want videoblogging week to look like this year?
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

[Devlon Duthie]

I wonder if technorati can keep up with y'all this time :) 

Anne and I had fun participating last year, but not sure if we'll 
contribute anything this year.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Mike Moon wrote:
> WooHOo! 
> I started vlogging the week after vlogging week last year. 
> Hmmm, let's see... a can of red paint, a rusty old saw, 33 elder
> people, a bale of hay, a car battery, a copy of Tom Jones greatest
> hits, a rented tattoo artist, sheep shears and a gallon of chocolate
> ice cream... yup, I'm ready.
>
> Mike
> http://vlog.mikemoon.net 
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
>> April 1-7 2007
>>
>> prepare yourselves!
>>
>> -- 
>> Josh Leo
>>
>> www.JoshLeo.com
>> www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>> 
>
>
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon=AnythingAnywhere

[Devlon Duthie]

And those in larger cities can gather for the satellite thingsif we 
could vid-link them then location and cost aren't barriers to 
participation anymore.

It would be best if remote people were included in the talks/sessions, 
either irc folks, or video/audiois this doable on the cheap yet?

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Robyn Tippins wrote:
> Sweet idea!  That makes this so much for feasible for people who can't
> travel all over the darn place.  
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> Robyn Tippins
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> Now that's an idea I'd buy into.
>
> Like the barcamp thing, didn't they have a simul-event? It could be 
> piped into Second Life for satellites there :)
>
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> sull wrote:
>   
>> maybe vloggercon should not be in a single location but have several
>> satellite events that can vary wildy in style. then pick which one you
>> 
> want
>   
>> to go to... that you think you would enjoy more.
>> they all start on same day... but they can vary in length. maybe onces a
>> meetup, and another is a week long camping thing. vlog it all. an exercise
>> that would display one of the core strengths of why videoblogging canbe
>> important... removing geo-barriers etc. collect all the footage into a
>> blip-powered site.
>>
>> :)
>>
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Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon=AnythingAnywhere

[Devlon Duthie]

Now that's an idea I'd buy into.

Like the barcamp thing, didn't they have a simul-event?  It could be 
piped into Second Life for satellites there :)

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sull wrote:
> maybe vloggercon should not be in a single location but have several
> satellite events that can vary wildy in style.  then pick which one you want
> to go to... that you think you would enjoy more.
> they all start on same day... but they can vary in length.  maybe onces a
> meetup, and another is a week long camping thing.  vlog it all.  an exercise
> that would display one of the core strengths of why videoblogging canbe
> important... removing geo-barriers etc.  collect all the footage into a
> blip-powered site.
>
> :)
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon? (was Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting)

[Devlon Duthie]

Yeah, more 'how', less 'why' this time.

Great idea Randy, I'd love to see a session on RSS, how, why future, 
etc. (another tie-in to vertigo?)  I think a big problem with RSS is the 
speed of the adoption of changes/advancements.  Education via these 
types of sessions would increase awareness and the more people know and 
understand it, the bigger the creative pool will be.

The 'town-hall' style of the sessions last year did kick ass.  It would 
be cool to have folks from companies that consume and produce rss there 
to talk with those attending, a big brain-storm/education thing.

--Devlon



RANDY MANN wrote:
> i have a  request for a secesion
>
> rss how it works,why it works and why cant i get it working
>
> On 2/22/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   Den 22.02.2007 kl. 22:10 skrev Michael Verdi <[EMAIL 
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>> 
>>> :
>>>   
>>> I agree that it should be much easier to have it be much less
>>>   
>> yahoo-group
>> 
>>> centric which should make it pretty interesting.
>>>   
>> I mostly want a reason to go to the US.
>>
>> In my own selfish world - and that's all that matters on the internet -
>> I'd like to see less making money, more creation. And I don't care for red
>>
>> carpets, but I do care for group hugs and hyperbole. I would also like to
>> see these Youtubers I keep hearing about, possibly study them in their
>> natural habitat.
>>
>> I also would like to point out that it doesn't have to be named
>> Vloggercon.
>>
>> PS. The video vertigo summit last year was very valuable. Tacking on such
>> a thing again would be a Good Thing in my book. Preferably a full day
>> instead of four-five hurried hours. Possibly in a setting where mock-ups
>> and wireframes can be made.
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.solitude.dk/ >
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Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon? (was Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting)

[Devlon Duthie]

Anne and I definitely need to get out to NY.if this is a vote, 
that's what 'd vote for.

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Mike Hudack wrote:
> NYC!  NYC!  NYC!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Sinton
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:16 PM
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [videoblogging] Vloggercon? (was Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting)
>
> NYC is fine with me. I know Peter was involved in the last 
> vloggercon, and I will continue this and voluteer my services in any 
> way that is helpful.
>
> -Frank
>
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "RANDY MANN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>   
>> ok i will go along with the nyc thing as long as i can be the 
>> 
> sound guy
>   
>> again
>>
>> On 2/22/07, Charles Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>   With Schlomo's blessing, it's pretty much a done deal! Blip.tv 
>>>   
> would
>   
>>> totally help organize it.
>>>
>>> Why Vloggercon 2007? Because the last one was one of the greatest
>>> weekends of my life.
>>>
>>> We have months to work out the actual agenda.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >>> 
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>   
>>>> [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >>> 
> 40yahoogroups.com>]
>   
>>> On Behalf Of Michael Verdi
>>>   
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 14:45
>>>> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >>> 
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>   
>>>> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon? (was Re: Tuesday
>>>> FlashMeeting)
>>>>
>>>> What are people thinking they'd like do at another vloggercon
>>>> aside from meet and hang out (which is a given!)? What
>>>> developments in the last 9 months do you want to see
>>>> addressed? What wasn't addressed last time that should have
>>>> been? Basically I'm trying to steer the conversation from
>>>> when and where to why.
>>>>
>>>> - Verdi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/07, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> 
> 40gmail.com>>
>   
>>> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>> I can be, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And between you and the multitudes of New Yawkers, I think
>>>>>   
>>>> something
>>>> 
>>>>> beautiful can happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Schlomo
>>>>> http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
>>>>> http://hatfactory.net
>>>>> http://evilvlog.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/22/07, Robyn Tippins
>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>   
>>> >
>>>   
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Schlomo, will you be a planner this year again? I'll be
>>>>>> 
>>>> glad to lend
>>>> 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 
>>>>> hand
>>>>>   
>>>>>> to whoever is organizing it. I'm on the east coast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robyn Tippins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
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Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon? (was Re: Tuesday FlashMeeting)

[Devlon Duthie]

I agree on the vertigo meeting.  It was fantastic, way more creative 
rushes from that than vloggercon.

I also agree that more time would be great, but I guess that's a post 
for the other list.

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Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
> Den 22.02.2007 kl. 22:10 skrev Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>> I agree that it should be much easier to have it be much less yahoo-group
>> centric which should make it pretty interesting.
>> 
>
> I mostly want a reason to go to the US.
>
> In my own selfish world - and that's all that matters on the internet -  
> I'd like to see less making money, more creation. And I don't care for red  
> carpets, but I do care for group hugs and hyperbole. I would also like to  
> see these Youtubers I keep hearing about, possibly study them in their  
> natural habitat.
>
> I also would like to point out that it doesn't have to be named Vloggercon.
>
> PS. The video vertigo summit last year was very valuable. Tacking on such  
> a thing again would be a Good Thing in my book. Preferably a full day  
> instead of four-five hurried hours. Possibly in a setting where mock-ups  
> and wireframes can be made.
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Yeah, although it would work, I think it's a bit more of a kludge (no 
offense in that term, btw) than using a 'class' in the img tag. (imho)

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Frank Carver wrote:
> Friday, February 9, 2007, 11:28:23 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
>
>   
>>> Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than
>>> rel=thumbnail in this example?
>>> (It's consistent?)
>>>   
>
>   
>> The only reason is that rel is not valid XHTML attribute for 
>> 
>
> So why not wrap the image in an anchor tag which _does_ support rel:
>
> 
>
> Then it will show fine in browsers, be XHTML compliant, and easy to
> scrape while generating a feed.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Bah, standards ;) 

but, yes, good point.

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Joshua Kinberg wrote:
>> Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than
>> rel=thumbnail in this example?
>> (It's consistent?)
>> 
>
> The only reason is that rel is not valid XHTML attribute for 
>
> -josh
>
>
> On 2/9/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than
>> rel=thumbnail in this example?
>> (It's consistent?)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Devlon Duthie
>> http://devlonduthie.com
>>
>> Find great independent video:
>> http://mefeedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Joshua Kinberg wrote:
>> 
>>>> class="media-thumbnail" ?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> Yes, I think a class attribute on the image is good -- all that is
>>> needed is standardization on the class name.
>>>
>>> Also, it would make sense if the image were contained within some type
>>> of block that refers to the video, like this:
>>>
>>> http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure">
>>> http://link/to/thumbnail.jpg"; class="media-thumbnail" />
>>> 
>>>
>>> That way, you would know which video the thumbnail image is referring to.
>>>
>>> my .02 cents...
>>>
>>>
>>> -Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> On 2/9/07, billshackelford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> nah.
>>>>>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sull
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>> You're both COMPLETELY missing the point.
>>>>
>>>> This is NOT an alternative to mediaRSS. It's not an either or thing.
>>>> When you're composing a blog post you can't very well mark something
>>>> up in mediaRSS because you can only markup mediaRSS if you're actually
>>>> coding your own RSS feeds.  You need a way to be able to TELL
>>>> wordpress... or feedburner or whatever is creating your RSS feed...
>>>> heh this image, it is the thumbnail, please put it in the thumbnail
>>>> field of the RSS feed.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly... Sull, people cannot just go and use their blip feeds
>>>> instead of their  feedburner feeds.  Because their blogs are far more
>>>> than just videos from blip... their blogs contain text posts, and
>>>> blogged posts from flickr, and posts that are reblogged from others.
>>>> That makes about as much sense as telling them just to use their
>>>> delicious feed, or flickr feed instead of their blog.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe my post was to long or something, but I'm sort of disapointed in
>>>> the responses.
>>>>
>>>> Other than the fact that there is no "rel" atribute to  there's
>>>> no reason not to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps andreas could suggest and alternative to "rel", or perhaps I'd
>>>> like to suggest playing the devils advocate, does it really matter if
>>>> there's no rel attribute to ?   What's wrong with extending
>>>> it?  It guarantees there will be no conflicts, and it's in keeping
>>>> with other standards like relTag, relNoFollow, relEnclosure and many
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>> Again just to play devils advocate... but what's wrong with extending
>>>> HTML with a rel standard?
>>>>
>>>> If that is evil incarnate what other choices do we have?
>>>>
>>>> class="media-thumbnail" ?
>>>>
>>>> I think this is already getting to convoluted... we need something the
>>>> everyday people can understand... getting people to make the jump from
>>>> rel

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Although I agree with you Josh, why is class=media-thumbnail better than 
rel=thumbnail in this example? 
(It's consistent?)

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Joshua Kinberg wrote:
>> class="media-thumbnail" ?
>> 
>
> Yes, I think a class attribute on the image is good -- all that is
> needed is standardization on the class name.
>
> Also, it would make sense if the image were contained within some type
> of block that refers to the video, like this:
>
> http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure">
> http://link/to/thumbnail.jpg"; class="media-thumbnail" />
> 
>
> That way, you would know which video the thumbnail image is referring to.
>
> my .02 cents...
>
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On 2/9/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On 2/9/07, billshackelford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> nah.
>>>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails.
>>>>
>>>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users).
>>>>
>>>> sull
>>>>
>>>> 
>> You're both COMPLETELY missing the point.
>>
>> This is NOT an alternative to mediaRSS. It's not an either or thing.
>> When you're composing a blog post you can't very well mark something
>> up in mediaRSS because you can only markup mediaRSS if you're actually
>> coding your own RSS feeds.  You need a way to be able to TELL
>> wordpress... or feedburner or whatever is creating your RSS feed...
>> heh this image, it is the thumbnail, please put it in the thumbnail
>> field of the RSS feed.
>>
>> Secondly... Sull, people cannot just go and use their blip feeds
>> instead of their  feedburner feeds.  Because their blogs are far more
>> than just videos from blip... their blogs contain text posts, and
>> blogged posts from flickr, and posts that are reblogged from others.
>> That makes about as much sense as telling them just to use their
>> delicious feed, or flickr feed instead of their blog.
>>
>> Maybe my post was to long or something, but I'm sort of disapointed in
>> the responses.
>>
>> Other than the fact that there is no "rel" atribute to  there's
>> no reason not to do this.
>>
>> Perhaps andreas could suggest and alternative to "rel", or perhaps I'd
>> like to suggest playing the devils advocate, does it really matter if
>> there's no rel attribute to ?   What's wrong with extending
>> it?  It guarantees there will be no conflicts, and it's in keeping
>> with other standards like relTag, relNoFollow, relEnclosure and many
>> others.
>>
>> Again just to play devils advocate... but what's wrong with extending
>> HTML with a rel standard?
>>
>> If that is evil incarnate what other choices do we have?
>>
>> class="media-thumbnail" ?
>>
>> I think this is already getting to convoluted... we need something the
>> everyday people can understand... getting people to make the jump from
>> rel= to class= is a big step to ask thousands of people to remember...
>> these are not coders they're bloggers.
>>
>> -Mike
>> mefeedia.com
>> mmeiser.com/blog
>>
>>
>> 
>>>> On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>   Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat
>>>>> thing...
>>>>> and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary
>>>>> problem
>>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I.E. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this
>>>>> somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure,
>>>>> rel=payment and a host of others.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like
>>>>> audio,
>>>>> and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any objections to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>&g

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreedand agreed :)

We are currently rounding out where we check for thumbs.

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sull wrote:
> Well, the truth is that both approaches should be used.
> So if the effort can encapsulate supporting mediaRSS and rel=thumbnail then
> we'll be in great shape.
>
> Wordpress etc should natively support mediaRSS output.  But a plugin is a
> good start.  It could insert the rel=thumbnail and the feed could grab the
> same image for media:thumbnail.
>
> Feedburner needs to improve their support for thumbnails.
>
> Blip users should seriously consider using blip feeds instead of feedburner.
>
> Aggregators should do checks for media:thumbnail and alternatively,
> rel="thumbnail".
>
> Sull
>
> On 2/9/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   Could you expand that a bit?
>>
>> How easy is it for a layman vlogger to set a thumb in their post, then
>> have it come out in the media:thumb element on their feed? I am not
>> being sarcastic, I haven't played with mediaRSS as a content creator and
>> am curious about the workflow...I'm still green in the mediaRSS world.
>>
>> Seems like until everyone adopts mediaRSS, or whatever comes out in the
>> meantime, adding 'rel=thumbnail' to an image tag is easy enough...even
>> for the layman.
>>
>> --
>> Devlon
>>
>>
>> billshackelford wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
>>>   
>> sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> nah.
>>>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails.
>>>>
>>>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users).
>>>>
>>>> sull
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat
>>>>> thing...
>>>>> and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary
>>>>> problem
>>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I.E. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this
>>>>> somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure,
>>>>> rel=payment and a host of others.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like
>>>>> audio,
>>>>> and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any objections to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Hey all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried
>>>>>> 
>> to
>> 
>>>>>> catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked
>>>>>> 
>> before
>> 
>>>>>> But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their
>>>>>> entriesdo you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the
>>>>>> 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item
>>>>>> elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new
>>>>>> 
>> ones.
>> 
>>>>>> -Devlon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In 
>>>>>> videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> groups-yahoo-com@ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>>> There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight
>>>>>>> percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not
>>>>>>> &q

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Yeah, I'd give one of my toes (maybe even two...) for Ro's source code.

I haven't posted a vlog in a very long time, but when I didyup, 
every post had a thumb, just got used to it from the 'old days'.  But I 
think now with flash embeds, people forgot that the embed 'visual' 
doesn't carry through to the feed and their feeds have no thumbs.

If nothing else, the thumbs give someone who isn't already interested in 
watching your clip something that might entice them to watch.  I've 
found lots of new feeds to watch just from scanning thumbsI can get 
a glimpse of what's inside the media...helps with the glut of it all.

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Steve Watkins wrote:
> Ahar cheers thats where I had seen animated previews in the past but I
> forgot - Ro's flash thumbs - thanks for the reminder.
>
> Could you go into a bit more detail about the sorts of things youve
> done to ensure your feed looks good? How are you including a thumbnail
> for each post at the moment?
>
> I hope the momentum for improving on RSS can be rebuilt, there seemed
> to be a burst of activity a few years ago but not much progress since? 
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Elbows
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> This is a good point Steve, Ro and his flash-thumb things were freaking 
>> greathaven't seen anything beyond this.
>>
>> imho, it is were me, and it used to be :) as a content-creator, I found 
>> snapping a thumb of my clip and using it in my post, ad therefore in my 
>> feed took far less time than the value I found in making sure that the 
>> feed looked good in the aggregators.
>>
>> I'd love to wait and see what crazy new thumb/flash thing that someone 
>> builds, but for the time being it seems so simple and easy to have a 
>> thumb for a clip in a feed.  Spending as much time as I do around 
>> aggregators, etc. the ones with thumbs for each clip look more 
>> enticing.it's all part of packaging really.  People spend a ton of 
>> time building out their blogs, video-content, etc.but (in most 
>> cases) spend very little time on the presentation of thier rss feed.
>>
>> Since rss (so far) is a huge part of the ditribution method of this new 
>> media I would think it would be very important to have a robust rss
>> 
> feed 
>   
>> with as much metadata as can be jammed into it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Devlon Duthie
>> --
>> http://devlonduthie.com
>>
>> Find great independent video:
>> http://mefeedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Watkins wrote:
>> 
>>> Are static thumbnails any good for video really anyway? 
>>>
>>> Are there any examples of, or people working on, something more than
>>> single frame thumbnails? Ive been pondering whether a better way of
>>> previewing video exists, I dont know as it does, but Im thinking about
>>> it anyway.
>>>
>>> Im also very excited about future much richer & nicer user interfaces.
>>> Microsoft stuff like WPF, WPF/E, AJAX/DHTML in general, and Apple
>>> stuff like Core Animation, are technologies that may help this a bit.
>>> Will certainly need thumbnails or preview animations of videos to make
>>> this experience decent, I hadnt realised that thumbnail in RSS stuff
>>> was still such an issue - big shame, doubt I can be much use helping
>>> with this, but full support to anybody who can, please :)
>>>
>>> Is there any need to provide more than one thumbnail for a post in the
>>> feed? Different resolutions etc? Is there anything in RSS at the
>>> moment for attaching artwork or icon to the whole feed (eg show
>>> branding? Any merit whatsoever for enabling people to sspecify a
>>> graphic for license info - eg is there any sense whatsoever to having
>>> people do their creative commons stuff as a seperate video animation
>>> or still? I was just musing about alternative video aggregators of the
>>> future and how they could display the license info for each video in s
>>> small seperate window? OK thats probably a silly idea, I dunno.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Steve Elbows
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "billshackelford"
>>>  wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>>>>
>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

Could you expand that a bit?

How easy is it for a layman vlogger to set a thumb in their post, then 
have it come out in the media:thumb element on their feed?  I am not 
being sarcastic, I haven't played with mediaRSS as a content creator and 
am curious about the workflow...I'm still green in the mediaRSS world.

Seems like until everyone adopts mediaRSS, or whatever comes out in the 
meantime, adding 'rel=thumbnail' to an image tag is easy enough...even 
for the layman.

--
Devlon



billshackelford wrote:
> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> nah.
>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails.
>>
>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users).
>>
>> sull
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>   Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat
>>> thing...
>>> and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary
>>> problem
>>> first.
>>>
>>> I.E. 
>>>
>>> It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this
>>> somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything.
>>>
>>> It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure,
>>> rel=payment and a host of others.
>>>
>>> It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like
>>> audio,
>>> and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element.
>>>
>>> Any objections to this?
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Hey all.
>>>>
>>>> I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried to
>>>> catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked before
>>>>
>>>> But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their
>>>> entriesdo you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the
>>>> 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item
>>>> elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently.
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new ones.
>>>>
>>>> -Devlon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
>>>> 
>>> groups-yahoo-com@ wrote:
>>>   
>>>>> There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on.
>>>>>
>>>>> The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight
>>>>> percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not
>>>>> "semantically" specified. This is to say they are not specified in
>>>>> standard way which can be recognized by aggregators and search sites
>>>>> like Fireant, vlogdi, mefeedia and others. For example... eclosures
>>>>> can be specified in your blog post among other ways by a microformat
>>>>> standard "rel=enclosure". There is no standards for huge amounts of
>>>>> supporting meta infromation like thumbnails, i.e. there is no
>>>>> "rel=thumnail".
>>>>>
>>>>> We're working on mechanisms not only to better identify thumbnails in
>>>>> blog posts, among other things, by creating a new media Microformat.
>>>>> It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who
>>>>> use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, but
>>>>> it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when
>>>>> you're writing a blog post.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as well
>>>>> as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>> mmeiser.com/blog
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck  wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may
>>>>>> 
>>>> have
>>>> 
>>>>>> stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about
>>>>>> 
>>>> that, I'm
>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: FireAnt.tv video thumbnails

[Devlon Duthie]

This is a good point Steve, Ro and his flash-thumb things were freaking 
greathaven't seen anything beyond this.

imho, it is were me, and it used to be :) as a content-creator, I found 
snapping a thumb of my clip and using it in my post, ad therefore in my 
feed took far less time than the value I found in making sure that the 
feed looked good in the aggregators.

I'd love to wait and see what crazy new thumb/flash thing that someone 
builds, but for the time being it seems so simple and easy to have a 
thumb for a clip in a feed.  Spending as much time as I do around 
aggregators, etc. the ones with thumbs for each clip look more 
enticing.it's all part of packaging really.  People spend a ton of 
time building out their blogs, video-content, etc.but (in most 
cases) spend very little time on the presentation of thier rss feed.

Since rss (so far) is a huge part of the ditribution method of this new 
media I would think it would be very important to have a robust rss feed 
with as much metadata as can be jammed into it.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
--
http://devlonduthie.com

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Steve Watkins wrote:
> Are static thumbnails any good for video really anyway? 
>
> Are there any examples of, or people working on, something more than
> single frame thumbnails? Ive been pondering whether a better way of
> previewing video exists, I dont know as it does, but Im thinking about
> it anyway.
>
> Im also very excited about future much richer & nicer user interfaces.
> Microsoft stuff like WPF, WPF/E, AJAX/DHTML in general, and Apple
> stuff like Core Animation, are technologies that may help this a bit.
> Will certainly need thumbnails or preview animations of videos to make
> this experience decent, I hadnt realised that thumbnail in RSS stuff
> was still such an issue - big shame, doubt I can be much use helping
> with this, but full support to anybody who can, please :)
>
> Is there any need to provide more than one thumbnail for a post in the
> feed? Different resolutions etc? Is there anything in RSS at the
> moment for attaching artwork or icon to the whole feed (eg show
> branding? Any merit whatsoever for enabling people to sspecify a
> graphic for license info - eg is there any sense whatsoever to having
> people do their creative commons stuff as a seperate video animation
> or still? I was just musing about alternative video aggregators of the
> future and how they could display the license info for each video in s
> small seperate window? OK thats probably a silly idea, I dunno.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Elbows
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "billshackelford"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many.
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull  wrote:
>> 
>>> nah.
>>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails.
>>>
>>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users).
>>>
>>> sull
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser  wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat
>>>> thing...
>>>> and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary
>>>> problem
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>> I.E. 
>>>>
>>>> It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually
>>>> 
> using this
>   
>>>> somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything.
>>>>
>>>> It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag,
>>>> 
> rel=enclosure,
>   
>>>> rel=payment and a host of others.
>>>>
>>>> It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds
>>>> 
> like
>   
>>>> audio,
>>>> and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element.
>>>>
>>>> Any objections to this?
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/8/07, duthied2004 > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have
>>>>>   
> tried to
>   
>>>>> catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked
>>>>>   
> before
>   
>>>>> But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails
>>>>>   
> for their
>   
>>>>> entriesdo you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the
>>

Re: [videoblogging] Re: RSS as Relationship Tool

[Devlon Duthie]

For the record sull, those feeds came in from blip, vimeo, vsocial, etc. 
via our ping service.  The other end (blip, vsocial) had to send us the 
data...more like being fed than sucking ;)  It is an old service that 
isn't in action anymore.

And yes, some of them are a pain now and that's an appropriate nickname

As far as the rss thing, yeah if you put it out there then anyone can 
grab it, but one would hope that you have your cc licensing in it and we 
all hope that the site that is consuming it is adhering to your license.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie

http://mefeedia.com | Find Videoblogs
http://devlonduthie.com | My Site



sull wrote:
> well i will chime in *again*.
>
> i have nothing truly against network2.
> they communicate here and seem like smart, decent people in this space.
> of course, that is also in best business interests but hey you cant be
> too skeptical otherwise you would be... paranoid.
>
> i've claimed this before, but its important to repeat it especially when a
> thread like this invites it.
>
> vlogdir.com is OPT-IN.  from day 1 in April 2005, the directory has been a
> community-driven directory.
> I didnt populate it.  YOU did.  and I am proud of that because i think it is
> an interesting gauge of this vlog community.
> I also think that it works mostly as a passive filter.  Meaning, people
> actually take a few moments to submit their videoblog and vodcast (rss
> feed).  That means that they think they have something good to share with
> others.  so they choose to take some measures to do that sharing.
> vlogdir is always a top 10-20 result in google... so it helps somewhat.
>
> I also believe that vlogmap.org has worked this way for almost as long.
>
> though i totally love mefeedia they are not only opt-in and they
> actually went through a period when they sucked in a boat-load of feeds from
> other services like blip, vimeo, vsocial, youtube etc.  i call most of those
> feeds orphans.
> but mefeedia is like the best overall vlog/feed aggregator i think and they
> do a tremendous amount of "right" stuff so, this is in no way to traject
> anything negative on mefeedia.  they rock and when i can, i help them out
> with feedback.
>
> fireant.tv is opt-in too but last i checked, they also add in their own
> selections as well.  the weird part is the fact that any feed you enter in
> the app, gets added to a database as part of a review queue and if it
> looks tasty, it will end up on the web directory.  i think you can opt-out
> of that happening on mac version.  but many feeds on fireant.tv are added by
> fireant themselves as well as the community (whether intended or not).
>
> the only time i truly think its nasty to add feeds without opt-in is when
> some site appears out of nowhere and sucks in feeds and wraps ads around
> everything.
> they are obviously just trying to rank high in search results and make a few
> bucks.  no value back to the community and no value to the publishers.  its
> cheap and its dirty.  and it creates a bad reputation too.
>
> RSS... yes if you put out a feed, as a general rule you are syndicating your
> content to anyone on the web.  Preferably, you want that content grabbed by
> an audience, not by random aggregator sites.  But you also realize that some
> of the reputable aggregator sites actually do help you gain exposure and get
> traffic and distribute your media.  More people can subscribe to you.  It
> can be a very good thing if you actually want to spread your media.
> But you should respect the aggregator and if you dont, you should be able to
> tell them to remove your content.  and they should respond asap.
>
> network2 seems like they are trying to add value to the community.  i think
> they might succeed.  we'll see.
>
> vlogdir.com... well the project was one of the originals to come out of
> this community and its in auto-pilot.  it still serves and represents
> the vlogosphere but i have not personally focused on evolving the
> project.  after all, it is what it is.  what else can it be?  i promote
> vlogs that i like a lot... on the site and elsewhere.  and every once in a
> while i need to delete some vietnam tourism site etc but for the most part,
> the directory has been problem free.  thats a success story.  to me at
> least.
>
> maybe in 2007, i will carve a little time out to improve the site.
>
> in mean time, make sure any agg-newcomers work like mefeedia, vlogdir,
> fireant, vlogmap, blip.  the originals who give full attribution and
> add value to the community.  oh, i suppose network2 as well ;)
>
> sull
>
>
> On 12/14/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   i think i see a difference
>

Re: [videoblogging] Playing around with 8mm

[Devlon Duthie]

You might find something here:
http://lostinlight.org/

We recently finished a fund-drive on havemoneywillvlog.com for them.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie

http://mefeedia.com | Find Videoblogs
http://devlonduthie.com | My Site



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've got some more "artistic" projects popping in off the edge of the
> radar, and for at least a couple of them, I have an interest in an
> "analog" and "home movies" effect that has me thumbing through the web
> looking for some information on shooting on 8mm film.
>
> Has anyone here worked with 8mm film?  Have advice for purchasing a camera
> (prices vary WILDLY on eBay)?  What's the availability of film stock like?
>  Am I nuts?
>
> Just thought I'd lob it out.
>
> --
> Rhett.
> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Re: [videoblogging] under control

[Devlon]

I've seen the backups on our servers, let me poke around and see  if I
remember.  Yeah, they shouldn't be on the same server, seems
pointless...but I swear I've seen 'em.

On 11/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Adam,
>
> They probably have them on tape backup that's not accesable via any web
> interface.  (Old tape backups are probably stored in a safe or a locker or
> something.)
>
> You'll probably have to ask them for it.  (Via e-mail or whatever issue
> tracker they have.)
>
> So... basically ask them for the backup for the day before the crash.
>
>
> See ya
>
> On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi Charles,
> >
> > Im using mySQL on Dreamhost. The support docs mention that they do a
> > nightly backup of all databases. The problem is, I don't know where to
> > look
> > for them. They are accessible via the admin panel at dreamhost, but only
> > the databases that still exist. I need to access a snapshot of a database
> > that was deleted. Not even sure if that's possible.
> >
> > Any clues as to where they might store the snapshot? They take snapshots
> > of
> > the domains too, and store them in a folder at the root called .snapshot
> >
> > Thanks for the help,
> > Adam
> >
> > On 11/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Adam,
> > >
> > > What kind of database server are you using? MySQL? Postgres? SQLite?
> > > Oracle? Something else? (I don't think the "repair" command are the same
> > > across all of them.)
> > >
> > > Looking forward... you could try backing up your database automatically.
> > > (I'm very familiar with MySQL... so if you are using that I could help
> > set
> > > something up for it.)
> > >
> > > Also... something else to consider is the backup stuff that was being
> > > discussed in the "I.Hate.Blogger" thread (on the Videoblogging Mailing
> > > List). Refer to these...
> > >
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52143
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52155
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52157
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52168
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52171
> > >
> > > Doing something like what is described there could allow a kind of
> > > "universal vlog backup application" to be able to backup any vlog...
> > > without
> > > needing direct access to the database.
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >  > 40gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chris and I are working on thepan.org site. All things are fucked
> > right
> > > > now, feeds included.
> > > > If you want to watch The PAN, go to http://thepan-org.blip.tv
> > > >
> > > > If anyone knows anything about retrieving lost sql data, I could use
> > > some
> > > > tips.
> > > > I'm hoping there's a cache somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > AQ
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
> > >
> > > charles @ reptile.ca
> > > supercanadian @ gmail.com
> > >
> > > developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
> > > __
> > > Make Television http://maketelevision.com/
> > >
> > > __
> > > Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>
> charles @ reptile.ca
> supercanadian @ gmail.com
>
> developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
> ___
>  Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/
>
> ___
>  Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing...   http://tirebiterz.com/
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [videoblogging] under control

[Devlon]

Nevermind, was thinking of a different hosting service.  I can't find
anything on our DreamHost server.


On 11/17/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've seen the backups on our servers, let me poke around and see  if I
> remember.  Yeah, they shouldn't be on the same server, seems
> pointless...but I swear I've seen 'em.
>
> On 11/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello Adam,
> >
> > They probably have them on tape backup that's not accesable via any web
> > interface.  (Old tape backups are probably stored in a safe or a locker or
> > something.)
> >
> > You'll probably have to ask them for it.  (Via e-mail or whatever issue
> > tracker they have.)
> >
> > So... basically ask them for the backup for the day before the crash.
> >
> >
> > See ya
> >
> > On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Hi Charles,
> > >
> > > Im using mySQL on Dreamhost. The support docs mention that they do a
> > > nightly backup of all databases. The problem is, I don't know where to
> > > look
> > > for them. They are accessible via the admin panel at dreamhost, but only
> > > the databases that still exist. I need to access a snapshot of a database
> > > that was deleted. Not even sure if that's possible.
> > >
> > > Any clues as to where they might store the snapshot? They take snapshots
> > > of
> > > the domains too, and store them in a folder at the root called .snapshot
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help,
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > On 11/17/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Adam,
> > > >
> > > > What kind of database server are you using? MySQL? Postgres? SQLite?
> > > > Oracle? Something else? (I don't think the "repair" command are the same
> > > > across all of them.)
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward... you could try backing up your database automatically.
> > > > (I'm very familiar with MySQL... so if you are using that I could help
> > > set
> > > > something up for it.)
> > > >
> > > > Also... something else to consider is the backup stuff that was being
> > > > discussed in the "I.Hate.Blogger" thread (on the Videoblogging Mailing
> > > > List). Refer to these...
> > > >
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52143
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52155
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52157
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52168
> > > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/52171
> > > >
> > > > Doing something like what is described there could allow a kind of
> > > > "universal vlog backup application" to be able to backup any vlog...
> > > > without
> > > > needing direct access to the database.
> > > >
> > > > See ya
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >  > > 40gmail.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris and I are working on thepan.org site. All things are fucked
> > > right
> > > > > now, feeds included.
> > > > > If you want to watch The PAN, go to http://thepan-org.blip.tv
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone knows anything about retrieving lost sql data, I could use
> > > > some
> > > > > tips.
> > > > > I'm hoping there's a cache somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > AQ
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
> > > >
> > > > charles @ reptile.ca
> > > > supercanadian @ gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
> > > > __
> > > > Make Television http://maketelevision.com/
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > > Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
> >
> > charles @ reptile.ca
> > supercanadian @ gmail.com
> >
> > developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
> > ___
> >  Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/
> >
> > ___
> >  Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing...   http://tirebiterz.com/
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: Free stock video sites?

[Devlon]

>From what I remember this is exactly what dabble.com was supposed to
provide, not sure how that's panned out, haven't been there for a
while.  They have a classifieds section, or something like that.

I'll post a comment on the mefeedia discussion section...see if
anything pops out.
http://mefeedia.com/discuss/27/

-Devlon

On 11/15/06, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hey guys, here's a question from an alum from j-school
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Dan Maccarone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Nov 15, 2006 9:39 AM
>
> Columbia J-school New Media Program: http://newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu *
> http://www.nyc24.org --- --- Hey everyone--
>
> i have a client that wants to use some stock video on the site and i'm
> wondering if there anyone knows of some free stock video sites? If anyone
> has some suggestions, that would be great...
>
> thanks!
> dan
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Hello from a Newcomer...

[Devlon]

Hi Sarah,

Yes, thanks for popping in and introducing yourself.  Veoh has been
discussed a bit in here in the past and it's nice to have more people
from that side of the discussions here.

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On 11/14/06, Sarah Szalavitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Rick!!!  If you have any questions, I'd be delighted to answer
> them...and will definitely keep you posted on my vlog!
>
> cheers,
> Sarah
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> >Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Hello from a Newcomer...
> >Date: Tue, 14 Nov:53:09 -0800
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> >Hi Sarah,
> >
> >Good to have you here. I know there have been some discussions about
> >Veoh and its practices regarding redistribution of video feeds. Also
> >looking forward to your upcoming projects.
> >
> >-Rick
> >
> >On 11/14/06, Sarah Szalavitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi VideoBloggers,
> > >
> > > My name is Sarah Szalavitz and I recently joined the group, so I thought
> >I'd
> > > introduce myself.  I am a once and future vlogger (projects about to
> > > launch..watch out:))
> > > ... and an indie producer.  I spent a year in India making a documentary
> > > (initially about why american's should travel...and now, its become a
> >more
> > > long term project, about a reincarnation of a tibetan lama (born in
> >Ibiza)
> > > who has left the monastery). I come from a lot of different worlds of
> > > storytelling--politics, technology, law and most recently film--and am
> >so
> > > excited to be at the forefront of the next kind of storytelling and
> > > expression!
> > >
> > > I have also just started to work as the Director of Content Development
> >at
> > > Veoh.com, which will soon launch out of beta. Its my job to bring
> >creators
> > > to our website and to make Veoh as responsive and supportive as we can
> >be to
> > > creators and producers.
> > >
> > > Through reaching out to some of you individually  (been watching an
> >awful
> > > lot of video lately) and through others reaching out to me, I have
> > > discovered that, prior to my tenure at Veoh, our outreach to the
> >Vlogging
> > > community left quite a lot to be desired.  While I was not even a
> >twinkle in
> > > the Veoh eye at that point, I will do my best to make sure it will not
> > > happen again--and would love your feedback, thoughts and suggestions!
> > >
> > > I am not a marketing person--or a spy (maybe one day if this whole
> > > storytelling thing doesnt pan out...).  I am just another producer
> >trying to
> > > figure out and be a part of the future of storytelling. I
> > > can't tell you how inspiring it has been to join this world and to watch
> >so
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> > > Cheers,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: National Lawyers Guild Condemns Attack on Free Press

[Devlon]

Think back 6-7 years ago, did this shit happen as often back then?
Maybe they were just better at keeping it quiet. I can't believe the
direction the American government is headed.  I am Canadian and
therefore I feel I can do very little, but why, why does the American
population put up with this crap.  I don't get it.

It's getting worse every day, more bizarre things that this dictator
(yeah, I said it) is getting away with.  I am not a political person,
but it scares the hell out of me to see they way this is headed.

On 7/14/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Related story on CNN,  "Police seize newspaper's photos
> Pictures, along with TV station's video, are later returned":
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > For Immediate Release July 13, 2006
> > National Lawyers Guild Condemns Attack on Free Press
> >
> > San Francisco video journalist Josh Wolf is being charged with civil
> > contempt for exercising his first amendment right and refusing to
> > provide a federal grand jury with video footage he shot at a protest
> > last summer. The Guild believes that the grand jury is being improperly
> > used to obtain materials which would normally be protected under
> > California's Reporter Shield Law. *The civil contempt hearing is
> > scheduled for July 20th at 1 p.m. before Judge William Alsup and the
> > National Lawyers Guild (NLG) will host a press conference at noon in
> > front of the Federal Building—450 Golden Gate in San Francisco on that
> > day. *
> >
> > The US Attorney's Office, led by Assistant US Attorney Jeffrey Finigan,
> > are attempting to force Wolf to testify before the grand jury and hand
> > over a video tape of a protest that occurred in San Francisco's Mission
> > District last July.
> >
> > "My client's political activity and free speech activity in the Bay
> Area
> > as a journalist and this subpoena, with its associated threat of jail
> > time for noncompliance, has an incredible chilling effect on his and
> > other journalist's freedom to gather and disseminate information of
> > groups who espouse dissident beliefs," said Attorney Jose Luis Fuentes,
> > of the Oakland based Siegel & Yee firm, who is representing Wolf on
> > behalf of the National Lawyers Guild.
> >
> > The use of federal grand juries to target journalists and political
> > activists who are critical of the repressive domestic and international
> > policies of the United States government is an attack on democratic
> free
> > speech activity. The implications of Josh Wolf's case go well beyond a
> > single journalist or protest. "Like the Judith Miller case or the BALCO
> > case this is about the government's ability to take an independent and
> > free press and treat it as an investigatory arm of the government,"
> said
> > Carlos Villarreal, Executive Director of the National Lawyers Guild San
> > Francisco Bay Area. "The people of California have made it clear
> through
> > our shield law that we prefer a free press that doesn't have the
> > government constantly looking over its shoulder."
> >
> > California's shield law, according to a recent court decision on the
> > matter, "is intended to protect the gathering and dissemination of
> > news." In that decision, the California Court of Appeals in San Jose
> > confirmed that the law protected internet bloggers just as it protected
> > corporate news reporters. Federal protections are not as strong.
> >
> > "People protesting or on strike for better wages or marching for
> amnesty
> > should feel free to do so in front of journalist's cameras, just as
> they
> > should feel free to talk to journalists," said Wolf. "A free press
> > benefits all of us," he said.
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] A Message from Andrew Congdon [Was: *quasi-transcript*}

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; Andrew said in his opinion Amanda reported the
> > opposite of what really went down, and the whole
> > Rocketboom team (I guess her brother too) was saying
> > "Whoa she bailed on us and now she's saying she was
> > fired."
> >
> > Andrew believes he was "gyped" as he put it, because
> > he's not the business guy and is now forced to tell
> > his side of the story.  He felt he had to respond
> > because he was being painted as evil, and even as his
> > sister was telling him not to fire back.
> >
> > Andrew cracks, "Oh Amanda's the star and Jason
> > Calacanis of Weblogs is giving her everything and you
> > can be my star, and Andrew's well, he's just this dumb
> > guy who.."
> >
> > And that's when Andrew decided to put up the message
> > that as of this writing is still on Rocketboom's home
> > page.
> >
> > Andrew essentially reports that his basic challenge is
> > to remake Rocketboom and he's never been in this kind
> > of position.  Andrew says that events are starting to
> > turn and people like Star Jones (@##$!!!) are
> > producing a new spin on the entire matter.
> >
> > "What I have to do is take control of the message,"
> > Andrew says.  "The only way to make it through
> > is,to..I'm not sure."  He says that whomever he puts
> > on Rocketboom on Monday is just not going to work and
> > they would "throw tomatos" at them.  It will have to
> > be an interim host.
> >
> > Andrew spent the rest of the time explaining the ideas
> > they came up with for the Monday show -- which stlll
> > isn't up yet.  One of them was to do a segment on how
> > they wanted Amanda back, but she's not coming back, so
> > Rocketboom lives on.
> >
> > Andrew was talked out of that.
> >
> > The audience basically told Andrew that Monday was
> > important in that he needs to show that he's moved on
> > and that Rocketboom is viable.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > First, I think Andrew''s too worried about what people
> > will think.   He needs to just do it.  Make the show.
> > Second, as usual, the real truth is in the middle and
> > we're starting to see that middle.
> >
> > Amanda should have just waited and let Rocketboom
> > grow.  Unfortunately she was thinking too much about
> > herself and not being a team player.  More trajically,
> > this episode is a grand example of what people -- most
> > people -- do to thwart success.  I've seen this time
> > and again, and experienced it when I was working to
> > bring the Super Bowl to Oakland.
> >
> > When people who are involved in something that
> > suddenly gains massive success, they want to "break it
> > up" such that they have more 1) control and 2) money.
> > It's always this dynamic at play.  It always comes
> > with people who are not experienced in life or
> > business matters or both.   They can't see a bigger
> > picture from the "place" that caused the growth to
> > begin with; they want to change the role so it's all
> > about them.
> >
> > Success is never all about one person. There's always
> > a team behind it.
> >
> > Amanda, here's my message to you: in the future, be
> > patient and as the saying goes "When you're invited to
> > the biggest dance of the year, you go with who 'brung
> > ya."  In this case, that person was indeed Andrew and
> > you should have brung him to LA.
> >
> > Be careful to always tell the truth, even if it
> > doesn't make you look good.  What you did was alter
> > the story to create a fictional tale of good (you) and
> > evil (Andrew).  I think you owe him an appology.
> >
> > Also, try to work within a team, even as your star
> > status grows.  You don't want to be marked as "hard to
> > work with" so let this be a lesson.
> >
> > Jason, here's your cautionary tale writ large.  Buyer
> > beware.
> >
> > Andrew, move on and make the show. As of now, it's
> > 10:08 PST and there's still no show at all.  That
> > means it's after 1 EST.  What's up?
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

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On 6/5/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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If you watch my video via Tivo's RSS features, that is considered
IPTV.  If you watch my video on your iPod, that is a video podcasting.
 If you watch video on my blog, that is video blogging.I am all for never hearing the debate again, as well as personal filters to tune it out but, watching video on a blog is videoblogging? 
Great, now I am really confused ;) (note the humour)I am guessing you meant the act of consuming videos on a blog is consuming videoblogging?  The act of consuming video on an iPod is consuming video-podcasting?

What is the one label for what I'm creating?  VIDEO.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

[Devlon]

I'll have to give it a listen tonight, see if I have an opinion about it :)I am sure a ton of people didn't get blogging when it first started gaining popularity, same with podcasting...same with 'recording video and putting it online in a bloggy fashion', or as some of us call it, videoblogging.
On 6/5/06, Nathan Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I was most surprised by how disconnected and dismissive the 
TWiT/dl.tv/digg crowd was towards videoblogging in general. Hopefully 
they will show up and have a change of heart and understand why going to 
a conference at the Swedish American Hall is ten times better than going 
to yet another blah-tech-expo at the Moscone Center.

+nathan

Devlon wrote:
> "complaining" vs. "stating your point of view"...it all depends what 
> side of the fence one is on.
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> It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced 
> what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's 
> truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point 
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> The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe 
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> On 6/5/06, * Casey McKinnon* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
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> http://www.galacticast.com/
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> > > Michael Verdi wrote:
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon mention on twit

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"complaining" vs. "stating your point of view"...it all depends what side of the fence one is on.It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like it's truth (truth to us alone sometimes), but in the end it's just a point of view, or a matter of opnion.
The day would go by much easier if people remembered that and maybe discussions would stay at discussions and not degenerated into silliness.On 6/5/06, 
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It happens in videoblogging as well Josh... don't forget that whole
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Click.tv Party?

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Sounds like a great time Mike.  I've added our names to the wiki.See ya there :)On 6/1/06, Mike Lanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey - I'm Mike Lanza from Click.TV.  RSVPing is helpful but not absolutely necessary.  If 
you don't RSVP, you can't eat or drink, that's all.  ; )  (JUST KIDDING...)

Don't get weirded out.  It's a party!  It'll be lots of fun.  

For the brave among you, there's a pool here and a great view of the East Bay, plus music, 
drinks, food, and a plasma screen where we'll show some of the day's events, etc.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Yeah, it's listed on the Vloggercon wiki here:
> http://wiki.vloggercon.com/index.php?title=Saturday%2C_June_10th

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> http://clicktvparty.wikispaces.com/RSVP
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> I'm used to either getting an open invitation and not replying or
> getting an exclusive invitation and RSVP-ing.  This is just foreign
> and uncomfortable to me!  Perhaps it's from working with diplomats too
> long...
> 
> Casey
> http://www.galacticast.com/
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon  wrote:
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> > When's this party?  Is this the Saturday night thing?
> > 
> > On 6/1/06, Enric  wrote:
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> > > That's pretty normal for events that I go in this area.  It let's
> > > people hosting the party know how to accomodate the number of
> attendees.
> > >
> > >   -- Enric
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"
> > >
> > >  wrote:
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> > > > Does anyone else feel weird about having to RSVP and add their own
> > > > name to the Click.tv party wiki?  It's a shame we can't just
> show up...
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Click.tv Party?

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Sounds like a great time Mike.  I've added our names to the wiki.See ya there :)On 6/1/06, Mike Lanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey - I'm Mike Lanza from Click.TV.  RSVPing is helpful but not absolutely necessary.  If 
you don't RSVP, you can't eat or drink, that's all.  ; )  (JUST KIDDING...)

Don't get weirded out.  It's a party!  It'll be lots of fun.  

For the brave among you, there's a pool here and a great view of the East Bay, plus music, 
drinks, food, and a plasma screen where we'll show some of the day's events, etc.

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> Yeah, it's listed on the Vloggercon wiki here:
> http://wiki.vloggercon.com/index.php?title=Saturday%2C_June_10th

> 
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> http://clicktvparty.wikispaces.com/RSVP
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Click.tv Party?

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When's this party?  Is this the Saturday night thing?On 6/1/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That's pretty normal for events that I go in this area.  It let's
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  -- Enric

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Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo video uploads

[Devlon]

heh, I tried to watch a video and got this:ERROR




We are experiencing technical difficulties right now, please try again later.Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 24)
On 6/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



And now there is, Yahoo video uploads.
http://video.yahoo.com/

It's a search engine, it's an aggregator, it's an upload site.

"- Featured, Popular, Category and Tag sections enable users to easily
browse for videos.
- Users can subscribe to and watch channels, groups of videos related
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Re: [videoblogging] Feed URL in your signature.

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I am in the vlog-site then feed camp as well.  I like visiting a person's vlog.  It gives me a better sense of who they are, what they are into, etc.  Sometimes it even give a bit more context to their videos.  If I like what I see, then I subscribe to the feed.
Even when I use mefeedia, or bloglines to see what's new in my subscriptions, most time I will go to the site, load the video from there.  Unless it's someone that I've been subscribed to for a very long time, in which case I'll load it right up in mefeedia.
On 5/31/06, Kevin Buckstiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







I use Entourage and it strips ( la la) ... Which I just noticed today thanks to Andreas's tip.

I like it when people put links in their sigs, I would say that I 80% of my subscribed feed comes from this group... Because I read what you talk about and want to learn more about you, so I hit your vlog... Versus random vlog hunting. I also, personally, enjoy looking at your web site and THEN subscribing to your feed. I assume others do too, but I usually assume too much.


Kev!

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> I did that signature thing last year some time when this came up. Now I'm
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Use a better e-mail client? :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Canadians at Vloggercon (was: Let's finish what we've started!!!) (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

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steam beer...that sounds cool, er, hot. um, warm?On 5/31/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Actually there is quite a bit of great American beer. San Francisco 
is home to one of the worlds great beers (and a uniquely American 
beer style) Anchor Steam beer, which is a California Steam beer 
which is a lager fermented at ale temperatures. It's really quite 
excellent. They make some other styles as well including an Ale 
(Anchor Liberty Ale) which is also one of my favorites. I hope to 
make a pilgrimage to their brewery while I'm there.

Bill Streeter
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> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Canadians at Vloggercon (was: Let's finish what we've started!!!) (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

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We take Budweiser about as seriously as we take the Bush
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I'll find you next friday at Schlomo's and you can show me some good American beer.  I've heard there is such a thing ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Canadians at Vloggercon (was: Let's finish what we've started!!!) (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

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lol, ah, wimpy-ass wine, straight from the, oh...I'd better not.On 5/31/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



You have Wimpy-Ass Wine too? I thought it was just a local brand. 
I'm not a particular fan of ass wines myself but Wimpy-Ass Wine is 
pretty good. 

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> :) actually, I am a wimpy-ass wine drinker.
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> On 5/31/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Our beer is
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Re: [videoblogging] Canadians at Vloggercon (was: Let's finish what we've started!!!) (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

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:) actually, I am a wimpy-ass wine drinker.  On 5/31/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




wimpy-ass beer drinkers

i'm sure that's a bottle of Maker's Mark I see behind Schlomo's bar ;)


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Ah, but in the case of beer, home-field is a disadvantage :)  Our beer
is stronger.
  
  On 5/30/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, whatever!  We have the home-field advantage and know how
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Rudy makes 5...that I am aware of.  I've been meaning to ask
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> All you Canadians going to vloggercon,
sound off.  We'll have to make sure we all get >together
at Schlomo's or something and toast to our Yankee hosts or something.

thers also Philip:
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Re: [videoblogging] Canadians at Vloggercon (was: Let's finish what we've started!!!) (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

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Ah, but in the case of beer, home-field is a disadvantage :)  Our beer is stronger.On 5/30/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, whatever!  We have the home-field advantage and know how to deal
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Freakin EH!  Philip and Lukas are coming.  We are SO going
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Rudy makes 5...that I am aware of.  I've been meaning to ask
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> All you Canadians going to vloggercon,
sound off.  We'll have to make sure we all get >together
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Re: [videoblogging] Let's finish what we've started!!! (Was: Re: I'm almost @ Vloggercon)

[Devlon]

On 5/30/06, Brett Gaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







He may find that more people might be able to afford a lower amount.  
$10 added to the total is better than none..

Absolutely - anyone who does something like this should learn from my
mistake.  I didnt understand that selecting $30 would mean you
_had_ to donate $30 or more.  I just picked this number randomly,
and once I had my first donation, fundable doesnt want you to change
(makes sense - presumambly a security feature)Live and learn :)  I figured you were locked into that amount, I didn't mean to say you were greedy or anything.

PS are you going Devlon?  Whats our Canuck count?I sure am...can't wait.  yourself, Anne, myself, Casey and Rudy makes 5...that I am aware of.  I've been meaning to ask this question as well.
All you Canadians going to vloggercon, sound off.  We'll have to make sure we all get together at Schlomo's or something and toast to our Yankee hosts or something.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: clean wiki for Vloggercon

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On 5/30/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Could be electrifying ;)heh, more action than most karaoke I've seen, not much dancing typicallyI guess it would be better exercise than boring old non-showering karaoke. little trivia fer y'all..."karaoke" in Japanese (origin) means 'empty orchestra'
...to some it may  mean 'empty audience' ;)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> showers + karaoke?  that's a scary thought.
> 
> On 5/30/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > karaoke on.
> >
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> > On 5/30/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
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> > > David... Sully... you bring tears to my eyes.  Obviously you have
> > never seen me do Guns N' Roses air guitar in a miniskirt.
> >
> > Jay- Will there be a way to get on the Saturday night guest list at
> > the last minute or do we have to RSVP now?  It's kind of hard to RSVP
> > when you're not sure if there's something else going on... is that the
> > ONLY thing?
> >
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> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" 
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> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
> > >  wrote:
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> > > > Karaoke is illegal in the state of california.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/30/06, Casey McKinnon  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey!!!  All the Sunday Night Karaoke info is gone now... can you
> > > > > repost it with all the info?
> > > > >
> > > > > Casey
> > > > > http://www.galacticast.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I followed Ryan's lead and have started updating the
Vloggercon
> > > wiki:
> > > > > > http://wiki.vloggercon.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

> > > > > >
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Re: [videoblogging] How often should I post new videos?

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On 5/30/06, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi.
I have just started my vlog last month, and have posted around 7 videos so far.
I have a few more "Waiting in the wings". (actually, they are starting to stack up)
How often do people post vlogs?  Is it daily, once a week, a couple of times a week?  I have not been in the community long enough to figure this out yet by following the RSS feeds.
some people post everyday, some a few times a week, others a few times
a month if that.  I started hot and heavy with a post almost everyday,
but that's tough to keep up (we had so many technical difficulties it
wasn't funny, ok mildly funny)I have been checking out my "visitors" via sitemeter, but I don't 
seem to have that many.
I don't want to post videos faster than they get viewed, but if I have no viewers, should I still post videos?For sure, 'post them and they will come view'at least some will :) 
Everybody videoblogs for their own reasons.  Some for fame, some for speaking their mind, some for connections and conversations, others for experimentation with the video/'net medium...and some for all of the above.  In my opinion, you should always be doing it for yourself, then you'll never have to worry about satisfying someone, 'cause at least you will be satisfied.  
Chances are pretty good that someone else will find what you are posting interesting and will come watch.I find that interacting with other videobloggers is a great way to get your site seen a bit.  Interacting with this list a great start.  going to other videoblogs and watching, commenting, interacting, maybe even collaborating will help to let others know that you are around and you may see your stats grow.
Just my two cents...I don't have that many viewers either and I've been doing it for a year now :)  But I have come to think of the viewers that I do have as my friends (interacting with them through comments, conversations, etc.) and wouldn't trade those 20-30 people for a 100 more.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: clean wiki for Vloggercon

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showers + karaoke?  that's a scary thought.On 5/30/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



isnt that what showers are for? :)karaoke on.On 5/30/06, Casey McKinnon <
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David... Sully... you bring tears to my eyes.  Obviously you havenever seen me do Guns N' Roses air guitar in a miniskirt.
Jay- Will there be a way to get on the Saturday night guest list atthe last minute or do we have to RSVP now?  It's kind of hard to RSVPwhen you're not sure if there's something else going on... is that the
ONLY thing?Caseyhttp://www.galacticast.com/--- In 
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wrote:>> ...and should be throughout the country ;)>> David> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
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http://www.galacticast.com/> > >> > >> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
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He may find that more people might be able to afford a lower amount.  $10 added to the total is better than none..On 5/30/06, Casey McKinnon <
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That's right.  He still has about $200 left to raise and only has 6
days left to do it.

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> 
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> > 
> > please help out if you can folks
> > 
> > if someone is planning to cab it from the airport, please consider 
> > donating all but $5 of that to Brent instead and take the subway
(it's 
> > so much more fun - from oakland you actually go under the bay! - BART 
> > trains are fast and clean (hell, even carpeted) - far better than a
> cab). 
> > 
> > 
> > Casey McKinnon wrote:
> > 
> > >Alright people, our friend Brett (Etherworks.ca, HomelessNation.org)
> > >is meant to be speaking at Vloggercon on the Political Vlogging &
> > >Social Change panel.  He starting fundraising last month and is still
> > >just a few donations short of his target.  I've just donated and I
> > >encourage you to do the same.
> > >
> > >https://www.fundable.org/groupactions/brettvlog
> > >
> > >Casey
> > >http://www.galacticast.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Gaylor" 

> > >wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Okay friends, this is my final week of fundraising for Vloggercon!
>  With
> > >>your help, I'm more than halfway to my total of $600.  Big thanks to
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >many
> > >  
> > >
> > >>members from this list (Markus, Jay, Ryanne, Michael thank you!)
> and my
> > >>peeps from Montreal!
> > >>
> > >>I've got six days left to raise the rest - I'm raising the money so
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >that I
> > >  
> > >
> > >>can participate in the Political Vlogging for Social Change
panel.  I
> > >>produce a non-profit website called Homeless Nation that aims to
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >help the
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Canadian street population share their stories through participatory
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >media.
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Please check out the video I made about the panel here:
> > >>http://www.etherworks.ca/archives/2006/05/vloggercon_2006/

> > >>
> > >>And then if you can, make a pledge here:
> > >>https://www.fundable.org/groupactions/brettvlog
> > >>
> > >>And our website, Homeless Nation, here:
> > >>http://www.homelessnation.org
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> > >>Thanks so much for helping, and I hope to see you all at Vloggercon!
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Re: [videoblogging] Amercian King is a go

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Congrats to all involved!This is a great step towards something very cool (in Chris's case and in others)One step closer to shrinking that digital divide in some aspects.On 5/29/06, 
Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



look at havemoneywillvlog.com.
we did it.

in about 4 days this community raised/gave 1000$ to Chris Weagel for
his new project:
http://americanking.net/
I really want to say how amazed I am. i'd say that 40% of donations
were from outside the commmunityprobably due to everyone blogging
about it. The largest donation was only 50$...and most were in 10$
increments. This means that many people gave their support.

although I doubt we'll always be so successful, I hope we can work
together to regularly fund videoblog projects that would not otherwise
happen without some financial support.

we now have a group to help identify future projects:
http://groups.google.com/group/hmwv
please join ONLY IF you want to  do the footwork of working with
creators and helping raise money.

CREATORS:  if have a new project you want to work on, please submit it here:
http://havemoneywillvlog.com/wordpress/?page_id=4
remember, you got to make us fall in love with it.

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Re: [videoblogging] almost have money will vlog

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:) I am still waiting for money from my bank to get into my paypal to contributeOn 5/29/06, Markus Sandy <
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wow - it's like waiting for the "one millionth" customer or something

or an ebay auction to end

some lucky person is about to nail down the last contribution to Weagel.

just a few bucks to go

i can not tell you how much i'd love to knock over the last domino

or would that be considered a form of "sniping" ;)

just a few more contributions would do it

(maybe even just one)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Could this be the influence of videoblogging on advertising?

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On 5/29/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:24:17 +0200, Jan McLaughlin  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The question to the group is: how many of you shave your kiwis and
> peaches?

I don't appreciate being objectified.I think it is your kiwis that are being objectified, not you ;)

C'mon someone had to do it. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: transparency

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This is a great point Jonny.  I wonder if the content producers would be opposed to mention those who contributed in their credits?  On 5/27/06, jonny goldstein
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but do contributors get any
kind of public recognition for contributing? That could provide a nice
incentive for people to want to chip in. The original work would still
belong to the creator, but the financers would at least get some props.

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> of havemoneywillvlog.com.
> thats pretty impressive.
> Chris needs to get the whole 1000$ to get any of the money though...so
> we have some work to do.
> 
> some of you have sent us good questions about how the site will be run.
> how will projects be chosen?
> what can people ask money for?
> is it only for americans?
> 
> Well, we want to be transparent, so please join the group if you'd
> like to help us figure out how to regularly fund cool videoblogging
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> http://groups.google.com/group/hmwv
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[videoblogging] Akismet down?

[Devlon]

anyone else that might be using akismet for spam comment blocking
notice they are getting hammered with comment spam all of a sudden?

70+ spam comments in the last 2 hours...busy little buggers.

akismet has stopped some, but not all and the patterns of the missed
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Re: [videoblogging] St. Louis Post-Dispatch Article

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On 5/26/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I got a little article written about me in the St. louis Post-Dispatch 
today, you can read it here: http://tinyurl.com/oyyo4Congrats. 

It's not bad. Although he said I have a daughter, which would be news 
to my son. Yeah, kids never like finding out that way.

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Re: [videoblogging] House panel votes for Net neutrality

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Sweet.  This from savetheinternet.org:http://tinyurl.com/pfwzsOne more round I guess...but you know they will forever be trying to tack some things onto other bills...sneak a little piece away at a time.
On 5/25/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



By a 20-13 vote Thursday that partially followed party lines, the
House Judiciary Committee approved a bill that would require broadband
providers to abide by strict Net neutrality principles.

All 14 Democrats on the committee--joined by 6 Republicans--supported
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: vloggercon: karaoke sunday night!

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All I can think of is all the golden video this will produce :)On 5/23/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Josh- I think you'd be great at doing something like "All By Myself"
by Eric Carmen or "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Nikki French (?).

Slow... powerful... painful... beautiful... yet silly as h3ll...

Casey
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Re: [videoblogging] vloggercon: karaoke sunday night!

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On 5/23/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



it's on the map

http://map.etitio.usThis map kicks so much ass Markus.  I just noticed the description area for each of the pegs...very nice.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help with Wordpress background/sidebar glitch?

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check for un-closed tags...those always get me.On 5/23/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Got a URL?

Bill Streeter
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left-
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turned 
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Re: [videoblogging] Sexism Mash-Up Video Response

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Great video KentOn 5/22/06, kentbye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



My wife and I put together a compilation video with our responses to
the earlier sexism thread:
http://www.ebbandflow.tv/blog/index.php/2006/05/20/lets-do-something-different/


Jay suggested that I pass it along here as well.

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Re: You can't save Internet Freedom by taking it away [was: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Lobbyists Trying to Destroy Internet Freedom?]

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And just to stir the pot a bit...it was created to protect the people in power at the time, the civilians in power that is. (as opposed to government in power)...did that make any sense?On 5/19/06, 
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David Meade wrote:

Its symantics I guess ...  but the truth is that The Intent of the Bill
of Rights was not simply to take away rights from the government, but
to ensure certain rights are protected for The People.

I beg your pardon? What is the difference?

The Bill of Rights was created to limit the new Federal Government.
That's all. 


  It may have done both in order to accomplish that ...
but its called The Bill of Rights not "The Bill of Limitations on
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Re: [videoblogging] From that MediaThink White Paper

[Devlon]

I wasn't clear how I was addressesing your questions Jan, but I think it depends what you personally are in videoblogging for.  I (think) I know from the last year I've been involved that you are in it for the communicative aspect and I don't think that any doors are closing in that area, I think they are opening more everyday.
On 5/19/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
imho, that article while interesting really is from a non-grassroots point of view.  None of the grassroots-type providers were mentioned.I think this is more proof that there are is two type of online video...communicative and commercialwe knew this already of course.  This article mainly speaks to the commercial aspects.  
I didn't make it through the entire thing yet, so I might be off-base, but I think we will start seeing more and more distance between the communicative (videoblogs) and the commercial (all the rest).  The communicative types will be seen as a fad, a down-home curiosity and the commercial a 'vital' thing that we all can't do withoutyou know like billboards and commercials.
just my two cents.On 5/19/06, Jan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









http://www.mediathink.com/tactical/ivod_whitepaper14.asp


 
"Content is officially king as the price for its distribution falls to near 
zero. Content that is easily searched, reliably entertaining, and residing on a 
robust platform is a requirement, not a feature set. We believe the key 
players are already established and many smaller players will simply not be able 
to establish the audience mass that will be required by the larger media 
buyers."
 
So, is that excitement and fear we were all feeling for the 
last two years worth it? Do the doors close?
 
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Re: [videoblogging] From that MediaThink White Paper

[Devlon]

imho, that article while interesting really is from a non-grassroots point of view.  None of the grassroots-type providers were mentioned.I think this is more proof that there are is two type of online video...communicative and commercialwe knew this already of course.  This article mainly speaks to the commercial aspects.  
I didn't make it through the entire thing yet, so I might be off-base, but I think we will start seeing more and more distance between the communicative (videoblogs) and the commercial (all the rest).  The communicative types will be seen as a fad, a down-home curiosity and the commercial a 'vital' thing that we all can't do withoutyou know like billboards and commercials.
just my two cents.On 5/19/06, Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









http://www.mediathink.com/tactical/ivod_whitepaper14.asp

 
"Content is officially king as the price for its distribution falls to near 
zero. Content that is easily searched, reliably entertaining, and residing on a 
robust platform is a requirement, not a feature set. We believe the key 
players are already established and many smaller players will simply not be able 
to establish the audience mass that will be required by the larger media 
buyers."
 
So, is that excitement and fear we were all feeling for the 
last two years worth it? Do the doors close?
 
Jan
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon Schedule

[Devlon]

I can just imagine the stream of karaoke vlogs that will come after the weekend.  On 5/18/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


The Mint Karoake Lounge ( http://www.themint.net/frontpage.htm ), a
few blocks from Vloggercon.  On the wiki.

  -- Enric 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So very, very awesome!  And you guys saw this coming... I made a page
> on the wiki...
> 
> http://wiki.vloggercon.com/index.php?title=Sunday_night_karaoke%21

> 
> Add yer stuff!
> 
> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric"  wrote:
> >
> > If Susan & Casey sing, I think you'll have an audience.
> > 
> >   -- Enric
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf  wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a place on Lombard street that'd work pretty good if there  
> > > are plenty of Karoake people interested...
> > > 
> > > Josh
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On May 18, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Susan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I call for karaoke Sunday night!  San Franciscans, find us a  
> > > > place!  :D
> > > >
> > > > Susan
> > > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Are there any updates on the Friday and Saturday night events?
> > > >>
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> > > >>
> > > >> I've extended my trip until Wednesday to attend the Google Geo
> > > >> Developer Day and Where 2.0 conference, but I'll be staying
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> > > >> Jose Monday and Tuesday night.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Matt
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> > > >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ryanne hodson"
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> > > >>> hey all
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Re: [videoblogging] silly iPod question

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On 5/18/06, Richard BF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



At 16:09 -0700 18/5/06, Markus Sandy wrote:
>1) hmmm, i better respond to each of your emails if I want to stay 
>near the top.  i recommend all other members of the top 20 poster 
>clique do that same to keep Richard out.

Just a point of order, are the Richards allow to post as a block, so 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: silly iPod question

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On 5/18/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Apple purposely does not allow this.  Otherwise I could bring my 60 GB
iPod loaded w/ content over to your place and easily dump all of it
down to your machine w/o regards to copyright.

There have been a few programs out that provide a workaround.  I
remember using something called "elphpod" (elfpod?), but a quick
Google search did not provide any decent results.Even my lame little iRiver is like this.  

I can transfer music to it, but not transfer from it to a pc. 
-Matt
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Richard (Show) Hall"

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> Today is the day where:
> 
> 1) I make my move, to move up on the top 20 poster list
> 2) I try and set the record for most goofy and simple questions
> 
> ... I have videos on my iPod
> ... How do I get the video off of the iPod and on to my computer? (I
would
> have thought selecting video and dragging to desk top, but no luck
on that
> one)
> 
> ... Richard (top 20 vlog list poster and silly question asker)
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.richardshow.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon Schedule

[Devlon]

On 5/18/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I sure hope while filming Josh Leo we find out he's actually a
robot... that way I will have an excuse to use the footage on Galacticast!Sure he's a robot, don't you remember his post where he showed a bit of his true self...the one with the camera grafted to his forehead?
Sure, he covered it up with tape to keep the illusion...but we all know the truth Josh. 

Casey


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You can film me any time before the conference, I hav made
arrangements with
> myself and the footage will be used for the session "how to film
Josh Leo,
> an interactive workshop"
> 
> On 5/18/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/18/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Also there will be a band playing at The House Of Shields
> > > called "Bag of Toys"
(http://bagoftoysmusic.com)<
http://bagoftoysmusic.com%29>and you're
welcome
> > > to bring your camera and shoot them (arrangements have been made
> > > with the band to do this). We're going to share this footage via
> > > SpinXpress for use in the Recording Live Music workshop the next
day.
> > >
> >
> > That sounds pretty cool Bill...that's on Friday night?
> >
> >
> >  Bill Streeter
> > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > www.lofistl.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ryanne hodson"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > friday night there will be the Meet The Vloggers event
> > > > at the SF apple store (more details to come)
> > > > following this is a get together-merry making-drinking
> > > > at schlomo's bar The House of Shields which is down the street.
> > > >
> > > > Saturday night
> > > > There is a bar, Cafe Du Nord underneath the swedish american hall
> > > > http://www.cafedunord.com/
> > > > for people to hang out and drink and see local bands
> > > >
> > > > *http://tinyurl.com/mjpr9
> > > >
> > > > *people will be hanging out all over the place on sat. night
> > > > so before the day ends at the conference
> > > > we'll have a list of places that people will be hanging out/
> > > having dinner
> > > > etc
> > > >
> > > > also the wiki will be open and active during the days
> > > > so people can be putting that info up there with directions times
> > > etc
> > > >
> > > > -ryanne
> > > >
> > > > On 5/18/06, LeanBackVids.com  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any updates on the Friday and Saturday night events?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, are there any plans for Sunday night?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've extended my trip until Wednesday to attend the Google Geo
> > > > > Developer Day and Where 2.0 conference, but I'll be staying in
> > > San
> > > > > Jose Monday and Tuesday night.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://vlogmap.org
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ryanne hodson"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hey all
> > > > > > the Vloggercon Schedule is really shaping up
> > > > > > and there are a bunch of videos about sessions that you can
> > > view.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > check it out:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.vloggercon.com/?page_id=3
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > --
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> > > > http://vloggercon.com
> > > > 
> > > > me: http://ryanedit.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon Schedule

[Devlon]

On 5/18/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Also there will be a band playing at The House Of Shields 
called "Bag of Toys" (http://bagoftoysmusic.com) and you're welcome 
to bring your camera and shoot them (arrangements have been made 
with the band to do this). We're going to share this footage via 
SpinXpress for use in the Recording Live Music workshop the next day.That sounds pretty cool Bill...that's on Friday night? 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ryanne hodson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> friday night there will be the Meet The Vloggers event
> at the SF apple store (more details to come)
> following this is a get together-merry making-drinking
> at schlomo's bar The House of Shields which is down the street.
> 
> Saturday night
> There is a bar, Cafe Du Nord underneath the swedish american hall
> http://www.cafedunord.com/
> for people to hang out and drink and see local bands
> 
> *http://tinyurl.com/mjpr9
> 
> *people will be hanging out all over the place on sat. night
> so before the day ends at the conference
> we'll have a list of places that people will be hanging out/ 
having dinner
> etc
> 
> also the wiki will be open and active during the days
> so people can be putting that info up there with directions times 
etc
> 
> -ryanne
> 
> On 5/18/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Are there any updates on the Friday and Saturday night events?
> >
> > Also, are there any plans for Sunday night?
> >
> > I've extended my trip until Wednesday to attend the Google Geo
> > Developer Day and Where 2.0 conference, but I'll be staying in 
San
> > Jose Monday and Tuesday night.
> >
> > -Matt
> > --
> > http://vlogmap.org
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ryanne hodson"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > hey all
> > > the Vloggercon Schedule is really shaping up
> > > and there are a bunch of videos about sessions that you can 
view.
> > >
> > > check it out:
> > >
> > > http://www.vloggercon.com/?page_id=3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> VLOGGERCON-June 10-11 San Francisco!
> http://vloggercon.com
> 
> me: http://ryanedit.com
> educate: http://freevlog.org, 
http://node101.org
> videos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] New AOL blogging/video tools

[Devlon]

Is this a 'standard' terms of service? (as in is it 'evil'?)
		By submitting a video through this feature (the "Content"), you hereby grant AOL 
			LLC, its affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, licensees and legal representatives 
			("AOL") the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to use, reproduce, edit, 
			market, store, distribute, have distributed, publicly and privately display, 
			communicate, publicly and privately perform, transmit, have transmitted, create 
			derivative works based upon and promote the Content (as such may be edited and 
			modified by AOL in its discretion), or any portion thereof, through the AOL 
			brand service and any other other products or services as AOL may designate, 
			and any other web sites not designated by AOL, in any medium now known or 
			hereafter devised, online or offline and by any means of delivery, for 
			editorial, commercial, promotional and all other purposes. You acknowledge and 
			agree that the Content may be shown on any web site, whether within or outside 
			the AOL service. AOL is not obligated to include the Content in this or any 
			program, and AOL reserves the right to remove the Content for any reason at its 
			sole discretion. In addition, AOL cannot guarantee that technical difficulties 
			will not occur during the upload of the Content or that the Content will upload 
			successfully.
		While you retain ownership of all right, title, and interest in the Content 
			itself, you agree that AOL owns all right, title, and interest in any 
			compilation, collective work, or other derivative work created by AOL using or 
			incorporating the Content. You represent and warrant that (i) the Content does 
			not and shall not infringe on any copyright or any other third-party right nor 
			violate any applicable law or regulation, (ii) you have the right to grant any 
			and all necessary rights and licenses provided herein, including, without 
			limitation, all necessary copyright and other related rights to the Content, 
			free and clear of all claims and encumbrances without violating the rights of 
			any person or entity, including any right to privacy or publicity.
		On 5/18/06, Zadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



What do you guys think about the new AIM Pages and AOL UnCut Video?

http://www.aimcreate.com
http://communityvideo.aol.com/


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[videoblogging] Cost of living out of ones pocket in SF?

[Devlon]

Could any Sf'ers out there give me a rough estimation of what it might
cost a person to 'live out of their' pocket for 4 days in SF?

Nothing fancy, food and travelling.  I think we can get away with
using the BART for our travelling and I've heard that is
reasonable...but what about food (restaurants, etc.)

Trying to budget for vloggercon :)

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Re: [videoblogging] More to L'Oreal and Advertisers / Advertising

[Devlon]

Yeah, I was reading that yesterday.

It's funny...they've learned that we tune them out and do other things
when it's 'ad time'...so they are working busily to construct new ways
to get their products in our minds.

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> The NY Times on an High-tech Industry Media Lab, where they watch folks
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Re: [videoblogging] Copyright radical

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On 5/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  On Mon, 15 May 2006 23:20:40 +0200, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  > Thanks for the additional info Andreasnot knowing much about the
>  > core of
>  > the issue it makes it tough to know where to start and where to find good
>  > information.
>
>  In my experience your best bet with this topic is still to read a book. As
>  a videobloggers more legislations than copyright are important. Trademark
>  and privacy laws are pretty darn important too. Buying a used college text
>  book on mass media law is a really good idea. Just make sure it covers all
>  the legal areas and that it's post-DMCA.

Cool, I'll see what our library has to offer first.  Thanks again.

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Re: [videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

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On 5/15/06, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=84I've added the following tag "template" to my Post Template so that it will always be displayed in my post before I type a single word; I'll simply have to change the keywords each time I post in order to make them more accurate.  Still, it's much easier than having to add tags from scratch each time I post a blog/vlog entry.
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[videoblogging] Re: Tracking the conversations, etc.

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Wow, I am a boneheadthis was supposed to go to the video vertigo group.

Oy.

but, um yeah, solet's talk :)

On 5/15/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think I've ever posted a real message to this group, so if I
> breach any etiquette it's only out of ignorance :) ...but something
> has been bugging me for a while now and I think if any group people
> can address it, it would be this group.
>
> We saw during videoblogging week 2006 how hard it was to keep track of
> all the videos being posted with the 'videobloggingweek2006'
> tag...granted we were relying on technorati which kind of left us
> hanging.
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> of the every one's input to that conversation.
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> Tags are great, but (unless I am dense and don't know how to use
> blogger) blogger doesn't provide an easy interface to add tags to
> posts.  Videobloggers may not be inclined to copy and paste the
> required html or even know how to use tags properly.
>
> Before I started videoblogging I am sure it was easy to keep track of
> these threads since there were a few people participating...but since
> the explosion, there's just too many to keep up with 'manually'
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[videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

[Devlon]

I don't think I've ever posted a real message to this group, so if I
breach any etiquette it's only out of ignorance :) ...but something
has been bugging me for a while now and I think if any group people
can address it, it would be this group.

We saw during videoblogging week 2006 how hard it was to keep track of
all the videos being posted with the 'videobloggingweek2006'
tag...granted we were relying on technorati which kind of left us
hanging.

Now with the 'ism' conversations recently I find it hard to keep track
of the every one's input to that conversation.

Tags are great, but (unless I am dense and don't know how to use
blogger) blogger doesn't provide an easy interface to add tags to
posts.  Videobloggers may not be inclined to copy and paste the
required html or even know how to use tags properly.

Before I started videoblogging I am sure it was easy to keep track of
these threads since there were a few people participating...but since
the explosion, there's just too many to keep up with 'manually'

I guess in my usual round-about way I am asking this: how can we
facilitate conversation tracking?  Groups, and social networks aren't
good for this since they are confined to the hosting site.  Do we need
to promote tag usage more?  Do we need to poke and prod blog hosting
services to provide support for tags (ie, make is easier to tag).  I
think tags are the way to go, but it seems like something is missing.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Current Contradiction

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On 5/15/06, Digital Buddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Air travel ended up near half of my output.Transportation is where I came up short.  When it's nice here, we hardly drive (small town), I bike/walk to work.
On 5/15/06, Devlon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Wow, mine was only 4 tonnes. On 5/15/06, Digital Buddha <

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Geeky! I love this. (18 tonnes/year). I've got to drop the SUV and go hybrid/altOn 5/15/06, Mike Hudack
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


How is BP luring consumers into thinking emissions are no problem?I particularly like their "carbon footprint calculator":




http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9008204&contentId=7015209On 5/15/06, 
francisco_daum <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I think both ad campaigns can be equally deceptive. BP Petroleum,
using the fresh, green, "nature"- friendly imagery can lull theconsumer into thinking emissions are no problem.L'Oreal's ad campaign can downplay the profiled woman's importantachievements. It can obfuscate the woman's actual stand and not
forward her issues.So instead of really caring for the environment or human rights- youcould be just sold something you can do with less or without.Oil comapnies should give money to save rainforests or something that
help prevent global warming. That would really be investing in thefuture. The green gas pumps don't fool me.I think L'Oreal should just take the money and give it to a women'sscholarship fund or something because that would help more and earn
more respect from women.franciscodaum.blogspot.com--- In 



videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah, thanks Charles>> On 5/15/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >  British Petroleum, an oil company which has gone green andexpanded its> > scope into sustainable energy.  Isn't this what us tree huggers
have been> > praying for for decades?> >> >> >> >> > Devlon wrote:> >> > ok, clueless moment...who is 'BP'?> >> > On 5/15/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >  I like the BP environmental commercials.  What's the worstthere?  That> > > they're raising people's awareness of their personal impact on the> > > environment?
> > >> > >> > > On 5/15/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > >  it's an interesting question. something i think about



whenever i see
> > > > a BP commercial for the environment.> > > >> > > >> > > > On 5/15/06, Michael Verdi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >  Yes, it diminishes the redeeming qualities - it's like PSAs
from> > > > > Philip Morris.> > > > > -Verdi> > > > >> > > > > On 5/15/06, Josh Wolf < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone, Current TV is currently working with L'Oreal, a> > > > > > cosmetics company, to solicit videomakers to profile womenwhom> > > > > > they
> > > > > > know who are "women of worth."(http://www.current.tv/studio/create/
> > > > > > vcam_loreal_wow.html) - I'm curious how the vidoblogging
community> > > > > >> > > > > > feels about an ad campagin sponsored by a cosmetics company to> > > > > > profile women who are working to improve the world they
live in?> > > > > >> > > > > > Obviously a series of PSA's giving these women credit forthe work> > > > > > they are doing would be a good thing, but, is the fact
that this> > > > > > thing is being underwritten by a cosmetics company andconsidered> > > > > > an> > > > > > advertisement by Current diminish the redeeming quality the
> > > > > > project> > > > > > might otherwise have?> > > > > >> > > > > > What do you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Josh
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into to> > > > > > peace."
> > > > > > "Power to the peaceful!"> > > > > >> > > > > > Spearhead - Bomb the World> > > > > >> > > > > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Current Contradiction

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Wow, mine was only 4 tonnes. On 5/15/06, Digital Buddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Geeky! I love this. (18 tonnes/year). I've got to drop the SUV and go hybrid/altOn 5/15/06, Mike Hudack
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


How is BP luring consumers into thinking emissions are no problem?I particularly like their "carbon footprint calculator":


http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9008204&contentId=7015209On 5/15/06, 
francisco_daum <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think both ad campaigns can be equally deceptive. BP Petroleum,
using the fresh, green, "nature"- friendly imagery can lull theconsumer into thinking emissions are no problem.L'Oreal's ad campaign can downplay the profiled woman's importantachievements. It can obfuscate the woman's actual stand and not
forward her issues.So instead of really caring for the environment or human rights- youcould be just sold something you can do with less or without.Oil comapnies should give money to save rainforests or something that
help prevent global warming. That would really be investing in thefuture. The green gas pumps don't fool me.I think L'Oreal should just take the money and give it to a women'sscholarship fund or something because that would help more and earn
more respect from women.franciscodaum.blogspot.com--- In 

videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah, thanks Charles>> On 5/15/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >  British Petroleum, an oil company which has gone green andexpanded its> > scope into sustainable energy.  Isn't this what us tree huggers
have been> > praying for for decades?> >> >> >> >> > Devlon wrote:> >> > ok, clueless moment...who is 'BP'?> >> > On 5/15/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >  I like the BP environmental commercials.  What's the worstthere?  That> > > they're raising people's awareness of their personal impact on the> > > environment?
> > >> > >> > > On 5/15/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > >  it's an interesting question. something i think about

whenever i see
> > > > a BP commercial for the environment.> > > >> > > >> > > > On 5/15/06, Michael Verdi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >  Yes, it diminishes the redeeming qualities - it's like PSAs
from> > > > > Philip Morris.> > > > > -Verdi> > > > >> > > > > On 5/15/06, Josh Wolf < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone, Current TV is currently working with L'Oreal, a> > > > > > cosmetics company, to solicit videomakers to profile womenwhom> > > > > > they
> > > > > > know who are "women of worth."(http://www.current.tv/studio/create/
> > > > > > vcam_loreal_wow.html) - I'm curious how the vidoblogging
community> > > > > >> > > > > > feels about an ad campagin sponsored by a cosmetics company to> > > > > > profile women who are working to improve the world they
live in?> > > > > >> > > > > > Obviously a series of PSA's giving these women credit forthe work> > > > > > they are doing would be a good thing, but, is the fact
that this> > > > > > thing is being underwritten by a cosmetics company andconsidered> > > > > > an> > > > > > advertisement by Current diminish the redeeming quality the
> > > > > > project> > > > > > might otherwise have?> > > > > >> > > > > > What do you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Josh
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into to> > > > > > peace."
> > > > > > "Power to the peaceful!"> > > > > >> > > > > > Spearhead - Bomb the World> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > >  Yahoo! Groups Sponsor> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [videoblogging] Copyright radical

[Devlon]

Thanks for the additional info Andreasnot knowing much about the core of the issue it makes it tough to know where to start and where to find good information.That's a really fantastic thing about this list...the diversity of views, backgrounds, etcsome might say it's a bad thing.  While sometimes awkward and sensitive I think it's f'ing great.
On 5/15/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:42 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux  
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> Read this for a brief history of Copyright:
>
> http://slaw.ca/2006/04/25/publishers-and-copyright/

In what world was that brief? :o)
Anyway, it was hardly a history of copyright. A text that doesn't mention  
the Berne convention can hardly be called the history of copyright (even  
though the author of the above piece is undoubtedly smart, he hasn't  
written a history of copyright).

Modern copyright begins with the Berne Convention, the first international  
convention of copyright. Since WTO pretty much requires you to sign the  
ratrify the treaty if you want to be a member almost all countries have  
signed (Wikipedia says 160 signatories). Wikipedia has the brief version:  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention >

Cliff notes:

  - It was created in 1886.
  - Instigated by Victor Hugo (an artist, not a cabal of coprporations)
  - Carries with it a lot from French copyright law (which is a good thing)
  - It took the USA 104 years to get their act together and sign on (due to  
the French influence)
  - It is the cause of some very good changes to the US copyright system  
(automatic protection and extended moral rights)
  - US copyright is still messed up on certain points (making statutory  
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Re: [videoblogging] Current Contradiction

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Ah, thanks CharlesOn 5/15/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




British Petroleum, an oil company which has gone green and expanded its
scope into sustainable energy.  Isn't this what us tree huggers have
been praying for for decades?



Devlon wrote:
ok, clueless moment...who is 'BP'?
  
  On 5/15/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I like the BP environmental commercials.  What's the worst
there?  That they're raising people's awareness of their personal
impact on the environment?


On 5/15/06, 
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wrote:

  
  it's an interesting question. something i think about
whenever i see a BP commercial for the environment. 
  
  
  On 5/15/06, 
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Yes, it diminishes the redeeming qualities - it's like
PSAs from Philip Morris.
-Verdi

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everyone, Current TV is currently working with L'Oreal, a
  
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http://www.current.tv/studio/create/
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Re: [videoblogging] Current Contradiction

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ok, clueless moment...who is 'BP'?On 5/15/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I like the BP environmental commercials.  What's the worst there?  That they're raising people's awareness of their personal impact on the environment?
On 5/15/06, 
Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




it's an interesting question. something i think about whenever i see a BP commercial for the environment. On 5/15/06, 
Michael Verdi <
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Yes, it diminishes the redeeming qualities - it's like PSAs from Philip Morris.-VerdiOn 5/15/06, Josh Wolf <



[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hey everyone, Current TV is currently working with L'Oreal, a
cosmetics company, to solicit videomakers to profile women whom theyknow who are "women of worth." (


http://www.current.tv/studio/create/vcam_loreal_wow.html) - I'm curious how the vidoblogging community
feels about an ad campagin sponsored by a cosmetics company toprofile women who are working to improve the world they live in?Obviously a series of PSA's giving these women credit for the workthey are doing would be a good thing, but, is the fact that this
thing is being underwritten by a cosmetics company and considered anadvertisement by Current diminish the redeeming quality the projectmight otherwise have?What do you think?Josh
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Re: [videoblogging] Copyright radical

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On 5/15/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hello Devlon,I understand where you are coming from.  But I think the argument being made is that the concept of Copyright law is (morally) wrong (regardless of whether it is legal).
I'll have to educate myself more on this topic to avoid putting my foot in my mouth, but I would guess that it was corporations that created the copyright need in the first place...out of  desire to protect thier pocketbooks, to hordeand in a perfect world we wouldn't need to be fearful of someone else gaining from our work.
But these days I can see some sort of protection people may want to protect the integrity of what ever message they are trying to convey with the contect they create.  The no-derivs cc thing gives people that ability.  They know that how ever they put their words, images, sounds together will be kept intactand therefore so will their message.
(just my barely thought-out thoughts on the subject)(I tried to elaborate on what Mark Hosler said in a long post I made in this thread.)
See yaOn 5/14/06, Devlon <
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Ok, maybe I am naive or just too new to all this, but I don't see a problem at all.  If someone wants to protect their work, they use a license.  We have optionsall rights reserved (not granular enough imho) and CC.


I feel the great thing about CC is the granularity.  I can choose what rights I'd like to reserve.If someone doesn't agree with NC, or ND, then don't use it on their work...simple, done.I can't think of a better way to phrase this, so please forgive the bluntness of it, but it seems like those who oppose the noderivs portion of CC feel that anything released online should be open to them to play with.  "If it's online, it's mine"?
On 5/13/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <

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Hello,Please post the URL to it when it's done.See yaOn 5/13/06, WWWhatsup <


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yeah I'm just doing up a piece by Eben Moglen wherehe mentions that he and Stallman believe that the NC provision
somewaht defeats the purpose.. It's a big encode I'll hopefullyhave it up on Monday.jolyCharles wrote:>Hello Chuck,>>You may want to check this out also...>>Creative Commons -NC Licenses Consider Harmful
><http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655>


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Re: [videoblogging] No Irish Vloggers

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Very cool Josh, I'll be eagerly awaiting video.  Ireland is on my list of places to go before I die.On 5/15/06, Josh Leo <
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I am probably going to be touring Northern Ireland for a week, and then be in London/Worthing mid-August. I was, however, dissapointed to see that there are no Irish vloggers posted to 
Vlogmap.org
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Re: [videoblogging] WIRED: Could High-Def Choke Internet?

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Anti 'save the internet' propaganda ;)On 5/14/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



"Small clips are fine, but TV-quality and especially high-definition
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http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,70895-0.html?tw=rss.index


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Re: [videoblogging] Video Conversations

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Most (that I know of) are listed:http://wearethemedia.com/2006/05/11/isms-brouhaha-in-the-vlogosphere-2/
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is probably one of my favorite parts of this whole videoblogging fad.  Seriously.  The 
problem I'm having is actually finding all of the ones from the Golf Host With Boobs 
topic...probably because we all are not tagging our videos with Golf Host With Boobs...

Does anyone have a list of all of them?  I haven't been keeping up with the email thread, but I 
want to watch all of the video responses.  
Maybe a webjay list or something?

Here's mine:
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com/2006/05/discussion-on-voyeurs-and-white-men.html


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Re: [videoblogging] Copyright radical

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Ok, maybe I am naive or just too new to all this, but I don't see a problem at all.  If someone wants to protect their work, they use a license.  We have optionsall rights reserved (not granular enough imho) and CC.
I feel the great thing about CC is the granularity.  I can choose what rights I'd like to reserve.If someone doesn't agree with NC, or ND, then don't use it on their work...simple, done.I can't think of a better way to phrase this, so please forgive the bluntness of it, but it seems like those who oppose the noderivs portion of CC feel that anything released online should be open to them to play with.  "If it's online, it's mine"?
On 5/13/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hello,Please post the URL to it when it's done.See yaOn 5/13/06, WWWhatsup <
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yeah I'm just doing up a piece by Eben Moglen wherehe mentions that he and Stallman believe that the NC provision
somewaht defeats the purpose.. It's a big encode I'll hopefullyhave it up on Monday.jolyCharles wrote:>Hello Chuck,>>You may want to check this out also...>>Creative Commons -NC Licenses Consider Harmful
>
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655
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Re: [videoblogging] What is Your Definition of TV

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good topic!...for the most part...empty, shallow.  Granted there is a lot of good stuff too, but that was my first thought.On 5/12/06, Michael Sullivan
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Just want to dredge out what you think of first when you think of TV (excluding the bube tube you watch video on of course ;-)thnX-- Sull
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