[videoblogging] Re: Newsflash from the future

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe  wrote:
>
> Things like this come along to remind me that it's 2009 already.  WE  
> LIVE IN THE FUTURE.
> 
> Fuji are releasing a 3D digital stills and video point and shoot  
> camera, and standalone wireless 3D digital picture frame.  No glasses  
> required for viewing 3D on either the camera or the picture frame.
> http://www.gizmag.com/fujifilm-finepix-real-3d-w1-camera/12445/
> http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/
> 
> AND
> 
> Nikon are releasing a point and shoot camera with 4 video modes and  
> built-in 40 inch projector.
> http://www.gizmag.com/nikon-coolpix-s1000pj/12437/
> http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/coolpix/s1000pj/
> 
> Both coming to stores near you in September. if you live in America.   
> the Japanese have probably had this shit for years.  the rest of us  
> peasants will probably get access to them around 2015.  by which time  
> you'll all have hoverboards.
> 
> Rupert
> http://twitter.com/ruperthowe
>

It looks like what the viewer does is project two sources of light into a 
viewing area for separate eye viewing:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/viewer/finepix_real3dv1/features/index.html

 -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia to Add Video

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena"  wrote:
>
> First saw this on Slashdot:
> http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/19/2211229/Wikipedia-To-Add-Video?from=rss
> 
> Then I followed the link to a CNet article:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10269308-17.html
> 
> and MIT's technology review:
> http://www.technologyreview.com/web/22900/page1
> 
> If Wikipedia does this with some of the wish list that Michael Verdi was 
> talking about is it possible that Wikipedia can become the new YouTube?
> 
> Or a new source of video propaganda? Or a new source of documentation by 
> users? Will Ogg Video finally rise from the underground?
> 
> Questions. I got a million of them.
> 
> Gena
>

>From the articles it sounds like initially the "Add Media" button will allow 
>you to add Ogg Theora video from Wikimedia and Internat Archive and perhaps 
>others.  So you'd need to upload there first.  

What would really be cool is to have the wiki capability for editing video.  So 
edit histories can be gone back to (and branched off of) for people to create 
different edits at any time and point.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia to Add Video

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena"  wrote:
>
> First saw this on Slashdot:
> http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/19/2211229/Wikipedia-To-Add-Video?from=rss
> 
> Then I followed the link to a CNet article:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10269308-17.html
> 
> and MIT's technology review:
> http://www.technologyreview.com/web/22900/page1
> 
> If Wikipedia does this with some of the wish list that Michael Verdi was 
> talking about is it possible that Wikipedia can become the new YouTube?
> 
> Or a new source of video propaganda? Or a new source of documentation by 
> users? Will Ogg Video finally rise from the underground?
> 
> Questions. I got a million of them.
> 
> Gena
>

>From the articles it sounds like initially the "Add Media" button will allow 
>you to add Ogg Theora video from Wikimedia and Internat Archive and perhaps 
>others.  So you'd need to upload there first.  

What would really be cool is to have the wiki capability for editing video.  So 
edit histories can be gone back to (and branched off of) for people to create 
different edits at any time and point.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Great piece on Gawker: The End of Television as We Know It

[Enric]

While this excerpt goes into aspects of technology, it is not discerning.  The 
main thing it's missing is that while there's a dropping of technological 
limitations in producing content.  The human limitations have not changed.  On 
the viewing end, people still have only so much time and interest to spend on 
media.  Unlike print while is non-linear -- you can read a book, blog, twitter 
stream to a point, and then come back and continue at any time later -- video 
and film are linear.  If you stop watching a video 1/3 through and come back 
three days later, you lose the impact and need to start at the beginning.  And 
you have only so many 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hour periods during you day to 
watch; depending on the linear media story length.  The fact that livestreaming 
and technologies that companies like Microsoft develop allow automatic 
recording of media do not diminish the problem of limited time people have to 
watch but amplify it.  It means that it'll be even more important to edit media 
into meaningful pieces that provide useful information, rather than having a 
massive glut of linear media to wade through.  

When the printing press arrived it didn't make everyone a Moliere, Shakespeare 
or Dickens.  But it allowed them to be recognized and be known quicker.  Still 
99% of people who wrote were only interesting to immediate friends and family 
-- or less than 1% of people.  While 1% of the very talented story writers are 
interesting to almost everyone.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor  
wrote:
>
> http://gawker.com/5265239/the-end-of-television-as-we-know-it , but here's
> the good stuff:
> 
> You see, with the internet, yes *the internet*, creators of serialized
> content can circumvent "the system" and produce their shows independently,
> in much the same way that filmmakers began began circumventing the studio
> system to develop films a few years back—-They raise money on their own,
> shoot the film they want to shoot, and then turn around and showcase at film
> festivals where, if the moon and the stars align just right, they're able to
> sell their film and it goes on to become a huge success. This model birthed
> some of the more smart, intelligent and important films of the modern era,
> shot from scripts that may have never seen the light of day otherwise in the
> traditional system, because they were "too edgy" or some horseshit like
> that. The problem, for years, with doing this with television was that
> content creators didn't have a way to showcase their product, they couldn't
> take it into a screening room and expect prospective buyers of content to
> sit there and spend hours watching a full season of television to see if it
> was worth a shit or not, but with the internet they now do. More and more
> Americans are watching more and more video online for longer and longer
> periods of time, so it stands to reason that sooner or later, someone is
> going to raise their own money, shoot their own full length show (half hour
> to an hour long) without network interference, put it on the internet, and
> it will become a cultural phenomenon, something that people, average people
> and not just early adapters, talk about around the proverbial water cooler
> at work. In fact, it's probably on the verge of happening right now. And
> then a network will swoop in and buy the show to bring it to those still not
> watching television on the internet, and other shows will be developed
> online and other networks will swoop in and buy them too, but eventually
> everyone will watch episodic shows online and there won't be a need for the
> traditional networks any longer. Hell, right now, Microsoft and Apple are
> both developing programs that will capture all of the video you want to
> watch by recording it live as it goes up onto the web and saving it for the
> user to view later, just like a DVR or TiVo, except for your computer and
> handheld electronic devices. These sort of software programs currently being
> developed aggregate video content from all over the web so the user can
> watch everything in one place instead of surfing around from site to site to
> watch the things they want to watch.
> 
> In other words, the need for television networks to develop and air shows
> will evaporate. They'll still be there, it's a stretch to say they'll die
> off altogether, but they will never be the same. And we'll all be better off
> for that.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming

[Enric]

The history of technological phaes is covered well by Kurzweil in "The 
Singularity is Near", IMO.  The first phase is widely optomistic where people 
see possibilities and blue skies.  Then those predictions fall short with 
skepticism and conservative view.  In the second (and sometimes third phase) 
real success occurs.  Recently this can be seen with the first dot.com boom and 
bust.  Out of that huge, successful companies emerged in the second phase like 
Google, Amazon, etc.

For internet media we are probably between the first and second phase.  And I 
do (and have) predicted that Internet TV will realize the potential of quality, 
independent online media publishing.  Story telling going back to performing in 
front of a group at a fire, the Greek theatres, to Cinema and TV, is at a 
distance, large.  It is immersive and compelling.  For story, people want to be 
drawn into it -- not disengage to interact and direct it, then immerse again 
back and forth.  Otherwise it's game playing, not story. And Internet TV will 
remove the network/cable gatekeepers to Story in it's proper proscenium.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor  
wrote:
>
> And like Social Media, YouTube, videoblogging, twitter, and other trends, it
> will take 3 years to become mainstream.
> 
> Year 1: Discovery by early-adopters
> 
> Year 2: Corporate Discovery and creation of budget for projects in...
> 
> Year 3: Where everything goes mainstream.
> 
> I keep talking about this three year trend to people, saying that we have to
> move fast if we want to change the media. Look at how things changed for
> videoblogging alone between 2004 and 2007, or even from 2006 to now?
> 
> This is not a dress rehearsal. We can't just sit and talk about changing the
> state of media, we must take action. The corporate momentum and
> infrastructure/warchest for communication has and will drown out our
> conversations, no matter how many positive benefits our ideas will bring to
> the world.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rupert  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > This is it.
> >
> >
> > On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on
> > > adding
> > > ethernet ports to their flatscreens:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html
> > >
> > > Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey Taylor
> > > 912 Cole St, #349
> > > San Francisco, CA 94117
> > > USA
> > > Mobile: +14157281264
> > > Fax: +33177722734
> > > http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
> > > http://organicconversations.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jeffrey Taylor
> 912 Cole St, #349
> San Francisco, CA  94117
> USA
> Mobile: +14157281264
> Fax: +33177722734
> http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
> http://organicconversations.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Paul  wrote:
>
> This largest hurdle I foresee is getting apps to run on the tvs, and  
> how well each manufacturer adheres to any given standard.
> 
> I believe most manufacturers have signed on to use tru2way, which is  
> based in Java, which is now owned by Oracle.
> 
> Does anyone foresee Ellison making some type of grab here? If so, will  
> it kill the platform/adoption?
>

My impression is that the main, first iTV's use a closed software architecture 
of widgets, i.e. Yahoo Widgets.  There's one or more that have open software, 
but very expensive.  It probably won't be until next year that open software 
iTV's will be affordable that anyone can write software to.  Things may have 
changed since I last looked into this...let me know if otherwise.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: SHVH - Ojai, CA

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jimmyjay24"  wrote:
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jimmyjay24"  wrote:
> 
> > Feb 7th + OjaiDigitalDojo = SuperHappyVlogHouse
> > A laid-back, over-friendly, often serendipitous meetup of vloggers
> > Open agenda: share vids, discuss projects, ask questions, make merry
> > Info and sign-up on the wiki (password to the wiki: sh1vh)
> > Newbies welcome
> > 
> > http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/OjaiDigitalDojo
> 
> 
> ...this is your subconscious reminding you that SuperHappyVlogHouse at
> the OjaiDigitalDojo is a short 10 days away...where's that video I
> want to show...what's the name of that plugin...how do I get rid of
> the hiss...why does Markus call it a dojo--is he a ninja...
>

Prior Ojai residents:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/gallery/2009/jan/17/rock-stars-parents?picture=341867265

  

[videoblogging] Re: HD Backup

[Enric]

Good points Brook.  I was thinking alternately of just buying a new
drive as I need it.  And they'll probably just continue going down in
price. 


  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton"  wrote:
>
> Speed is the issue with backing up as data to DV. Its going to take
an hour
> for every 17 gigs. It also locks you into a proprietary system for
dumping
> and recovering. Another minus: DV tapes are relatively fragile and
> definitely not archival. For data backup I'd give them a three year
life at
> maximum.
> 
> Drive space is cheap these days.  Most people I know are just dedicating
> external drives for video backup. You can buy an external 1 TB
MyBook with
> firewire, esata AND usb2 for $150 - that's the cost or 50 low end DV
tapes,
> making the drive about the same cost per gig (cheaper if you aren't
> compressing the tape backups).  .Also not archival - all drives fail
> (EVERYTHING fails), but easier to manage a few large capacity drives
than
> boatloads of tape for cloning/refreshing every few years. And much
much much
> much faster.
> 
> 
> Brook
> 
> ___
> Brook Hinton
> film/video/audio art
> www.brookhinton.com
> studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: HD Backup

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric"  wrote:
>
> Is there a non-exorbitent method of backing up HD encoded video? 
> Encoding AVCHD to quicktime or mp4 increases file size by 5 or more
> multiples.  A project can be FCP project can have 100 gb of clips.  
> 
> I remember in the olde days tape storage was a quick, cheap and good
> method of backing up large data
>   
>   -- Enric
>

Think I found the solution to mini-DV: 
http://www.jakeludington.com/project_studio/20050828_backup_files_to_dv_camera.html

 ;)

[videoblogging] HD Backup

[Enric]

Is there a non-exorbitent method of backing up HD encoded video? 
Encoding AVCHD to quicktime or mp4 increases file size by 5 or more
multiples.  A project can be FCP project can have 100 gb of clips.  

I remember in the olde days tape storage was a quick, cheap and good
method of backing up large data
  
  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Best

[Enric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kNbS6pTBP4&watch_response

[videoblogging] Directors back distributor Cinelan

[Enric]

There's an interesting article on a a new film content publisher,
launched Thursday at the Berlin Film Fest focusing on professionally
produced, three-minute nonfiction films.  Wonder if anything will come
of it,

http://tinyurl.com/33eug9

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Penn Jillette vlogging

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "michael_aivaliotis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://crackle.com/c/Penn_Says/
> 
> That's a lot of Sony cameras.
>

Penn makes obvious, clear sense.

[videoblogging] Re: iTunes feed is empty

[Enric]

I'm pretty busy with the work I currently have.  So if you've already
tried reinstalled and it didn't work, I need to know.  I don't have
time to go on sites and debug what's happening. I'm can spend time on
the vPIP code as time permits, but if something needs to be fixed on a
site like a Wordpress install, the people involved will need to handle
that.

  -- Ernic

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  I went through and made a few repairs.
> >  But... still nothing shows up on my iTunes page.
> >  In fact... I'm not 100% sure my iTunes page is hooked to my
feedburner
> >  feed. Anyway I can check the details of my itunes information/setup?
> >  Hey MissB ... your iTunes is also empty.
> 
> Ryanne and I also have had the same kind of problem with our feed.
> our feed isnt updating.
> 
> Enric was helping us trouble shoot and thought that we need to
> reintsall WP in case something got corrupted.
> Mike, are you using vPIP?
> what's your feed?
> maybe we can find a shared trait that is causing our issue.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
> RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>

[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.

[Enric]

Congratulations, and good luck.

BTW, I love the stuff I've seen you do -- including this one.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ractalfece" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A lawyer who is an expert in copyright law and online free speech has
> offered to represent me pro bono!  And it all happened because I
> started talking about on this list and Irina forwarded it to Jason
> Schultz at LawGeek who is now representing me.  I can't thank
everybody  
> enough.  File this one as an instance of the community standing up for
> somebody.
> 
> > seems like a bad deal, but maybe worth the hassle of fighting Youtube
> > and her DMCA takedown request.
> > this kind of thing sends a chill through the creative air.
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: New Media Douche Bags

[Enric]

In "The Wisdom of Crowds", James Surowiecki --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds
-- talks the evidence of how crowds work.  Crowds having  a range of 
information, expertise, etc.  But in a well working group, the mis-
information (ill formed rants and raves), cancel each other out.  
Leaving a mean or average of information that is usually as accurate 
or more than any expert.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> lol, interesting video :D 
> 
> I guess I would be a fully qualified new media douchebag if I had a 
career in self-
> promotion, had a blog, used half of those services, etc, but I 
dont. Uut Ive got the 
> opinionated hate part, so I gues Im well on the road to becoming 
what I hate. Time to get 
> the video effects & ableton live out and try to recover the weird 
me that used to exist more 
> before I started ranting on the net. 
> 
> I fl the need to twist and subvert the new media a-list, and 
fuse it with something 
> altogether less blurgh. 'Scoble on Acid' is my starting point. Join 
me, season starts 
> November 2013 based on my current pace of progress ;)
> 
> Who are the Pete & Scott you refer to, or were you joking? 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
>  
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "tim@"  wrote:
> >
> > Podcasting News has found a telling video.
> > 
> > I find it interesting that they use the names "Pete" and "Scott" 
in  
> > the video. Why would they use those names?
> > 
> > Pete and Scott don't hate and they are certainly not Douche Bags.
> > 
> > http://www.podcastingnews.com/2007/11/21/media-douchebags-unite/
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > Tim Street
> > Creator/Executive Producer
> > French Maid TV
> > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids
> > http://frenchmaidtv.com
> > Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
> > 
> > MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format

[Enric]

For vPIP release 1.13c:

The license.txt has been updated to list the current licenses of the
vPIP components.  

The readme.html file now points to http://vpip.org for the most recent
documentation.

   Thanks,

   Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman :
> > 
> > > vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature...
> > 
> > I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now, maybe
> Enric  
> > can help out.
> > 
> > I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read
> through  
> > the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first versions
> Enric  
> > released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are
> more  
> > esoteric.
> > 
> > The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional
> copyright  
> > and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists
of a  
> > collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not.
> > 
> > * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the
X11  
> > license.
> > * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric chose
> since  
> > bundling it would be impossible under GPL).
> > * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons  
> > Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not
> marked  
> > so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11 or
> CC  
> > BY-SA.
> > * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about
this  
> > anywhere in the vPIP package
> > * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found
> making the  
> > LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything
> with the  
> > complied swf file.
> > * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if
> it's  
> > identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL.
> > 
> > This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be
very  
> > clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially
considering  
> > projects like Show in a Box which states that "everything here is
open  
> > source" (when it's clearly not that simple).
> > 
> > - Andreas
> > 
> > -- 
> > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> > http://www.solitude.dk/
> >
> 
> 
> Thank you for bringing these details up.  Both the license.txt and
> readme.html are months out of date.  I will do this for the next
> release of vPIP:
> 
> - Update lincese.txt to list all licenses for all code.
> - Provide and include source for all SWF files that are not the
> cineViewer (name changed from cirneViewer) flash application.
> - Change readme.html to point to the documentation at
http://vpip.org
> 
> Note:  - The Jeroen FLV Player is not included in vPIP.  There is a
> ..\jeroen directory that has graphical assets for building in the
> flash player, cineViewer's, interface to look similar to one of the
> jeroen flv player interfaces.
>- All vPIP code except the cineViewer application will be
> licensed under X11 (or MIT License): 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License 
> 
>   -- Enric
>

[videoblogging] Re: Licensing

[Enric]

I should have clarified that the freedom I'm talking about is the
right to negotiate how your work is used.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is a "contradiction" in the GPL inasmuch as it prevents people
from 
> restricting the freedom of others.  (Just as laws against slavery
impinge upon 
> the freedom of slave owners.) Nevertheless, those that desire a
freer freedom 
> can pick the BSD license, which permits the software to be
incorporated in 
> unfree systems.  This is how Microsoft Windows contains TCP/IP code
from BSD unix.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Enric wrote:
> > This may start a whole discussion back and forth.  But, I find a
> > problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
> > software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
> > anyone to use software without restriction or barriers.  The
> > contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
> > compelling those that create software to release all the code.  So
> > there is a contradiction in the word "freedom" in that it is taking
> > away freedom of choice from those that create the work.  I see the
> > best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
> > mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
> > products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.
> > 
> >   -- Enric
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Licensing

[Enric]

This may start a whole discussion back and forth.  But, I find a
problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free
software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of
anyone to use software without restriction or barriers.  The
contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by
compelling those that create software to release all the code.  So
there is a contradiction in the word "freedom" in that it is taking
away freedom of choice from those that create the work.  I see the
best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and
mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of
products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think vPIP is an awesome plug-in. I'm glad we get to ship it /  
> promote it / teach people how to use it with Show in a Box.
> 
> I respect Enric's desire to not offer everything as GPL. Especially  
> since he is working on his flash player to make it fabulous, and  
> since the use of flash players by media companies big and small is a  
> HUGE thing, that has to do with $$$ flowing... I respect Enric's  
> plan, whatever it might be, to be able to charge people for use in  
> the future / or whatever (I don't know what) >> but to not simply  
> give everything away as GPL.
> 
> We definitely need to work out the licensing issues around all the  
> parts of SIAB. It's on the long list of things to do -- but no one  
> has gotten to it with the focus and rigor needed to finish answering  
> all the questions and teach everyone else what's up. I, for example,  
> barely know what all the different terms mean -- and could easily use  
> the wrong one when talking.
> 
> This issue does keep coming up internally, and does keep starting  
> over at the beginning... without ever really getting resolved. So --  
> sorry, Enric. I hope it seems less like pressure to get you to change  
> your mind -- and more of a lack of understanding and clarity on the  
> part of the SIAB team.
> 
> What we need is for someone in this group to take this on as a task  
> and go the distance with figuring out what all this means. And write  
> it all up as a clear thing on the wiki -- and hopefully in the future  
> we can simply keep pointing to the wiki.
> 
> I think the issue is least resolved around the flash player issues --  
> what are we going to include? How do those licenses line up.
> 
> Do we have any lawyers in this group?? Anyone who's worked on  
> software licensing before?? Any volunteers to really figure this out???
> 
> Jen
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 pm, Enric wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions
> > on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Licensing

[Enric]

Thanks Jen.  Look forward to the clear and well designed information
and instruction you guys make.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think vPIP is an awesome plug-in. I'm glad we get to ship it /  
> promote it / teach people how to use it with Show in a Box.
> 
> I respect Enric's desire to not offer everything as GPL. Especially  
> since he is working on his flash player to make it fabulous, and  
> since the use of flash players by media companies big and small is a  
> HUGE thing, that has to do with $$$ flowing... I respect Enric's  
> plan, whatever it might be, to be able to charge people for use in  
> the future / or whatever (I don't know what) >> but to not simply  
> give everything away as GPL.
> 
> We definitely need to work out the licensing issues around all the  
> parts of SIAB. It's on the long list of things to do -- but no one  
> has gotten to it with the focus and rigor needed to finish answering  
> all the questions and teach everyone else what's up. I, for example,  
> barely know what all the different terms mean -- and could easily use  
> the wrong one when talking.
> 
> This issue does keep coming up internally, and does keep starting  
> over at the beginning... without ever really getting resolved. So --  
> sorry, Enric. I hope it seems less like pressure to get you to change  
> your mind -- and more of a lack of understanding and clarity on the  
> part of the SIAB team.
> 
> What we need is for someone in this group to take this on as a task  
> and go the distance with figuring out what all this means. And write  
> it all up as a clear thing on the wiki -- and hopefully in the future  
> we can simply keep pointing to the wiki.
> 
> I think the issue is least resolved around the flash player issues --  
> what are we going to include? How do those licenses line up.
> 
> Do we have any lawyers in this group?? Anyone who's worked on  
> software licensing before?? Any volunteers to really figure this out???
> 
> Jen
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 pm, Enric wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions
> > on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature...
> 
> I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now, maybe
Enric  
> can help out.
> 
> I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read
through  
> the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first versions
Enric  
> released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are
more  
> esoteric.
> 
> The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional
copyright  
> and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists of a  
> collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not.
> 
> * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the X11  
> license.
> * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric chose
since  
> bundling it would be impossible under GPL).
> * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons  
> Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not
marked  
> so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11 or
CC  
> BY-SA.
> * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about this  
> anywhere in the vPIP package
> * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found
making the  
> LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything
with the  
> complied swf file.
> * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if
it's  
> identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL.
> 
> This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be very  
> clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially considering  
> projects like Show in a Box which states that "everything here is open  
> source" (when it's clearly not that simple).
> 
> - Andreas
> 
> -- 
> Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> http://www.solitude.dk/
>


Thank you for bringing these details up.  Both the license.txt and
readme.html are months out of date.  I will do this for the next
release of vPIP:

- Update lincese.txt to list all licenses for all code.
- Provide and include source for all SWF files that are not the
cineViewer (name changed from cirneViewer) flash application.
- Change readme.html to point to the documentation at http://vpip.org

Note:  - The Jeroen FLV Player is not included in vPIP.  There is a
..\jeroen directory that has graphical assets for building in the
flash player, cineViewer's, interface to look similar to one of the
jeroen flv player interfaces.
   - All vPIP code except the cineViewer application will be
licensed under X11 (or MIT License): 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License 

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I tried to help a tiny bit with show-in-a-box licensing issues:
> 
> http://showinabox.pbwiki.com/licensing
> 
> As you can see, I had not explored what VPiP was made of, but from
what I understood it 
> would need to be GPL to be distributed with the rest of SIAB. Did I
get that right?

No, GPL allows other code licensed with less restrictive licenses.  A
list of those licenses are at:

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html


vPIP is licensed under X11 (sometimes called MIT License) which the
GPL license allows.


> 
> Frankly, there is a lack of people who understand this stuff, and an
apparent lack of will to 
> try to understand it. The issues arent being taken seriously enough,
which ironic 
> considering how strongly many in this group feel when its peoples
video licenses that are 
> being ignored.

Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions
on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times.  

  -- Enric

> 
> I suppose I should not be surprised, given the amount of times I
mention that many 
> peoples CC licenses give others the right to re-host their work,
which is incompatible with 
> many peoples stated wishes to remain in control of their content for
stats purposes, and I 
> never get any response to that. I gues the details give people a
headache, but these legal 
> issues are meaningless without understanding of the detail. 
> 
> I mean I cant really blame people for not wanting to look at the
detail, as some of it is 
> likely to spoil their dreams and plans, but all the same, its
irresponsible.
> 
> If I ever do anything useful I think I'll just release it into the
public domain to provide a 
> few less headaches for everyone else. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen"
 
> wrote:
> >
> > Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman :
> > 
> > > vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature...
> > 
> > I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now,
maybe Enric  
> > can help out.
> > 
> > I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read
through  
> > the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first
versions Enric  
> > released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are
more  
> > esoteric.
> > 
> > The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional
copyright  
> > and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists
of a  
> > collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not.
> > 
> > * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the
X11  
> > license.
> > * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric
chose since  
> > bundling it would be impossible under GPL).
> > * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons  
> > Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not
marked  
> > so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11
or CC  
> > BY-SA.
> > * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about
this  
> > anywhere in the vPIP package
> > * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found
making the  
> > LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything
with the  
> > complied swf file.
> > * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if
it's  
> > identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL.
> > 
> > This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be
very  
> > clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially
considering  
> > projects like Show in a Box which states that "everything here is
open  
> > source" (when it's clearly not that simple).
> > 
> > - Andreas
> > 
> > -- 
> > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> > http://www.solitude.dk/
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: JetSetShow becomes Epic-FU

[Enric]

Nice move!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> http://jetsetshow.com is now http://epicfu.com/
> 
> --
> Bill Cammack
> http://reelsolid.tv
>

[videoblogging] Re: International Disturbed People's Day

[Enric]

"Your not disturbing me, I already am"

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Today is apparently the "International Disturbed People's Day" and I 
> wanted to wish all vloggers a Happy international disturbed people's 
> day.  Cause to be frank most of the vloggers I know are DEEPLY 
> disturbedespecialy Galacticast and Wreck and Salavge, some episodes 
> of Lo-Fi St. Louis, and that really weird "bunny" wedding of Schlomo's, 
> Bekah's crazy #$%^$# neighbor, Verdi's "naked" video and.well I am 
> sure you get the idea.
> 
> Here's to "disturbed" long may we reign!
> 
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
>

[videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers

[Enric]

I remember when I got out of College with a Film degree and called the
local Projectionist union.  The woman there, hearing how young my
voice sounded, basically said how dare I call for information.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the
> other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that
> could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions?
> 
> Currently we have the choice to say "Bugger off, I don't need you."
> 
> If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking
> off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or
> make it known that they would "prefer" union talent in as many web
> based productions as possible? 
> 
> I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union
> could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you
> (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor.
> 
> It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a
> professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you
> have three or more working together that makes it a production
> company?  This could set the precedent that allows the other
> entertainment unions jump in. 
> 
> I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a
> creativity killer in the making.
> 
> Gena
> http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "danielmcvicar"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everybody,
> > I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve
> > on committees in preparing for negotiation.
> > 
> > It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers,
> > performers and distributors of media.  The business models are being
> > disrupted.  
> > 
> > The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive
> > work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the
> > responsibility for insuring performers.
> > 
> > Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet.  There are
> > some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in
> > under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive.  They would be similar
> > to lowbudget film deals.   
> > 
> > Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is
> > distributed in a way that makes money.  You may always operate outside
> > the union, if you are an independent producer, but there may be
> > limitations in using union members or in distributing videos through
> > union signatories.  That is the same in preexisting video and film
> > formats.
> > 
> > There are more shared points that the union would have with producers
> > and distributors of content.  One in particular is piracy, and the
> > violation of copyright.  I have suggested that in the coming
> > negotiation with the networks and producers for the AFTRA contract,
> > that the performer and union retain their right to sue Youtube or
> > another entity that profited illegally from their work and image. 
> > This would be an adjustment in language, because the current release
> > transfers copyright to the producer, and it is the producer's
> > responsibility to seek damages.
> > 
> > Without drilling down into more specifics, I would like to say that a
> > union can serve performers, creators and producers well.  It is the
> > loss of revenue from work that is the biggest threat to all.  Just ask
> >  people in the music industry.
> > 
> > Perhaps there will be an adaptation of the unions to include small
> > producers who perform and create, and the rights for all can be
> protected.
> > 
> > I don't think there is a way to bully anyone out of the sphere now. 
> > Not as long as there are video cameras, and places to post videos.
> > 
> > What they can do is to help the performer and creator earn some
> > revenue from the further distribution of their work in digital
> > formats, and recover part of that revenue stream be it in paid
> > download, or on a site or format that includes advertising.
> > 
> > Ciao!
> > D
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wel I am a fan of unions in general. I just think there will be some
> > > growing pains if they try to apply this stuff to net video
> > > prematurely, especially as there is currently so much hype about
&

[videoblogging] Re: Casey in the Guardian: Will Hollywood kill the web-only stars.

[Enric]

Also, Jackson West's WGA interview with member Ezra Sacks:

http://newteevee.com/2007/10/21/qa-ezra-sacks-on-writers-guild-strike/

Last question:
===
NewTeeVee: What about the resistance to organized labor by technology
entrepreneurs and independent productions?

Sacks: Nobody could be more resistant to organization than Henry Ford
was, and they got organized. It might have been ruthless, it might
have been bloody, it might have taken twenty years, but a big group of
people are not going to get ripped off and left unprotected. Now,
maybe times are changing, I don't know. It depends on how satisfied
people are who are working in new media. If they're happy working in
that situation, I don't necessarily know if just because the guild
wants to bring them in, they're going to bring them in.
===

The times, they area a-changin'


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Here's Jackson West's NewTeeVee article about the strike:
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jan McLaughlin"
>  wrote:
> >
> > <
> >
>
http://news.google.com/news?q=wga+strike&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn
> > >
> > 
> > The Google-collected WGA strike news, FYI.
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
> > On 10/20/07, Jan McLaughlin  wrote:
> > >
> > > Way to go, Casey.
> > >
> > > Of course this medium will be unionized.
> > >
> > > Eventually.
> > >
> > > Is this a 'problem' for indie talent and technician? Or a blessing?
> > >
> > > Health insurance, retirement benefits, fiscal protections from
> abuse, etc?
> > >
> > >
> > > There either will or will not come a time when the things you
> produce are
> > > popular enough to sustain real livings for lots and lots of
> people. When
> > > that entertainment tipping point happens, why not provide yourself
> and the
> > > people you work with living wages and benefits?
> > >
> > > Serious talent wishing to cross over to MSM will be folded into
> unions;
> > > those who don't want to play in the MSM sandbox will stand
> outside, not
> > > looking in, but looking out to recruit new, hungry talent to feed
> the hungry
> > > long tail of entertainment.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > > On 10/20/07, Irina  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > very nice
> > > > i'm really intrigued by the strike in LA
> > > > it seems like we online can never be touched by something like
that
> > > > but i hear i am totally wrong
> > > >
> > > > On 10/16/07, Steve Watkins < steve@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   I could not miss the following article as it is currently
given
> > > > > prominence on the Guardian main page:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/oct/16/digitalvideo
> > > > >
> > > > > Touches on issues such as 'the unions are coming' which is
> certainly
> > > > > something I expect to cause a few nightmares for some in the
> future.
> > > > > Probably wont affect people who dont use any outside talent in
> their
> > > > > videos so much for now, but in the longterm the existing
> > > > > 'professional' entertainment industry is certainly going to
> want to
> > > > > get in on the act.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Elbows
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://geekentertainment.tv
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > Individual Email | Traditional
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Faux Press - better than real
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest
> > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> > > http://wburg.tv
> > > aim=janofsound
> > > air=862.571.5334
> > > skype=janmclaughlin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > The Faux Press - better than real
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest
> > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> > http://wburg.tv
> > aim=janofsound
> > air=862.571.5334
> > skype=janmclaughlin
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Patrick Power 1969-2007

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow. I am stunned. Patrick Power mailed Brittany and I when he saw the  
> lumiere manifesto on boingboing. We had very brief communication and
then  
> nothing. Now I know why.
> 
> Brittany went through almost all of his videos as she was searching
for  
> the right ones to present on dvblog. His works were nothing short of  
> amazing. I cannot tell how saddened I am to hear that he has passed
away.
> 
> - Andreas
> 
> Den 21.10.2007 kl. 15:06 skrev Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > The excellent dvblog.org today posted some intriguing work by a
fellow  
> > named
> > Patrick Power.
> >
> > A trip to patrickpower.com, however, revealed the disturbing news that
> > Patrick Power died a week ago. Perusing photos on the site, it
appears  
> > that
> > within the last five months, he had a child, got married, and died.
> >
> > Further research indicates that his site and work have not been much
> > discussed, that much of his work (still viewable thanks to the wayback
> > machine) was absolutely extraordinary, and that he was a genuine
pioneer  
> > in
> > this medium, posting web video since the mid-90s and, while not
exactly
> > videobloging, having a regularly updated site for the last decade  
> > consisting
> > of constantly updated videos. Really the only thing that makes it
not  
> > one of
> > the first videoblogs is the lack of RSS. Further, he was regularly  
> > teaching
> > this to people.
> >
> > Does anyone have more information about him - his work, what
happened to
> > him, anything?
> >
> > I should also mention that the redirect from patrickpower.com
includes a
> > donation button to help his family.
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Brook Hinton
> > film/video/audio art
> > www.brookhinton.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> http://www.solitude.dk/
>

http://www.patrickpower.com/otto/
http://www.patrickpower.com/cloudset/

[videoblogging] Re: New stuff from a Flash showcase

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was posted to another group. Upcoming stuff in Flash.
>
<http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2007/10/03/adobe-max-chicago-sneak-peeks/>
> 
> The guy (Peter Elst) has a lot to say on his blog, may be worth a
> bookmark to some.
> <http://www.peterelst.com/blog/>
>

Wow, the animation (muscles, bones) and other features of Flash 10 are
something.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Flash 9 Usage

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Today I looked on the Adobe site for Flash Player Version Penetration.
> >   The September 2007 penetration shows at 93.3%.  This leads me to
> >  think that the penetration is high enough to switch to developing in
> >  Flash 9 (Actionscript 3.)
> >  I'm wondering if people on the list are on Flash 8 or lower?  And if
> >  so, the preference for that?
> 
> ive never installed or updated Flash that I can remember.
> Does Flash do this for automatically?

Yes, if you hit a site that has Flash 9; it will offer to
automatically update.  Like http://www.kyte.tv

  -- Enric

> 
> Jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
> Video: http://ryanishungry.com
> Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc
> RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
>

[videoblogging] Flash 9 Usage

[Enric]

Today I looked on the Adobe site for Flash Player Version Penetration.
 The September 2007 penetration shows at 93.3%.  This leads me to
think that the penetration is high enough to switch to developing in
Flash 9 (Actionscript 3.)

I'm wondering if people on the list are on Flash 8 or lower?  And if
so, the preference for that?

  Thanks,

   Enric

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

[Enric]

Good news!  And a useful example of defending against bogus DMCA take
down notices.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looks like Antonio won against KSDK! His account and his 500+ videos 
> have been reinstated, read about it here: 
> http://www.pubdef.net/2007/10/pubdef-wins-fight-with-ksdk-
> youtube.html
> 
> Bill Streeter
> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> www.lofistl.com
> www.billstreeter.net
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter"  
> wrote:
> >
> > A local St. Louis video blogger, Antonio French, has had all his 
> > videos pulled from YouTube after a Local TV station sent a take 
> down 
> > notice to YouTube. The video they sent the take down notice was a 
> > report that he had posted where they promised a follow up to a 
> story 
> > about an alderman on the take and then didn't. Antonio French had 
> > posted this video to show how answers were promised and then 
> posted 
> > the follow-up report to show that the question of who the alderman 
> > was, was never answered. To me it looks like a clear case of fair 
> > use because he was using the videos to comment and critique them. 
> > You can read more about what has happened to the rest of his 
> videos 
> > on his blog at http://pubdef.net 
> > 
> > A word about Antonio French … He started his blog Pub-Def as a 
> > newspaper reporter frustrated by the lack of depth in local 
> > political reporting in St. Louis. He started posting videos to his 
> > blog after he saw what I was doing with Lo-Fi Saint Louis. His 
> > reporting is very good and has broken several stories that have 
> been 
> > followed up in both local and national main stream media. He's 
> > become an important source of information on the activities of 
> local 
> > government and a vocal critic of local main stream media. He 
> doesn't 
> > really make much money with Pub Def (short for Public Defender) 
> but 
> > the cost overhead of doing it is so low that he doesn't really 
> need 
> > to make that much money at it. He's exactly the kind of grass 
> roots 
> > journalist that our little media revolution has made possible.
> > 
> > He's currently moving all his videos to Blip.tv (something I 
> > suggested he do months ago.) But I can understand why he wanted to 
> > continue to use YouTube because it's so well known and has so much 
> > traffic. 
> > 
> > Anyway I thought that this story was relevant to the discussion 
> here—
> > especially in light of the Hip-Hop Violinist story, as some of the 
> > circumstances are similar. 
> > 
> > If you get a moment go check out some of the work he's doing at 
> Pub-
> > Def and if you have any ideas about how he might go about dealing 
> > with this issue I'm sure he would be open to hearing them. But I 
> > also wanted to introduce him to the group (he's not a participant 
> > here) because I think that the kind of work he is doing is really 
> > important.  
> > 
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> > www.billstreeter.net
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re:Miro

[Enric]

The first question to ask for any product including applications is
does the customer want it?  Not, should the customer want it.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> desktop aggregators are cold.
> 
> On 9/28/07, Patrick Race <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I love the idea behind Miro and I'm very supportive of the
project but
> > I'm
> > like Bill. I test to see that my feeds work every week or two and
don't
> > use
> > it as a core application. It just hasn't become one of those natural
> > transitions in my computer use pattern and I think it's probably
because a
> > lot of what it does I'm already doing through my browser.
> >
> > Does anyone here use Miro as a core application and if so was it a
> > conscious
> > effort to adopt it or did it just slowly become a program you use?
> >
> > I think I might use Miro more if it had a commenting system built
in or
> > some
> > more give and take. It maybe needs more give and take. It might be too
> > much of a one way street right now.
> >
> > Pat
> > http://akrobotics.com
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: September SF Video Edit

[Enric]

Sorry, wrong upcoming.org entry.  It's this one:

http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/266628/

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 9/29 from 4 pm - 11 pm at
> Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco.  
> 
> Sign up and location information is on upcoming.org:
> http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/
> 
> Wiki for SF Video Edit is at:
> http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php
> 
> 
> It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around.
> 
> Standard Inform:
> ===
> Most people edit alone, now you have a choice.
> 
> Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video
> Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location.
> Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you
> can choose to:
> 
> + Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or
> + Go over edits with others who are around; or
> + Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or
> + Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or
> + Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone.
> 
> Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection
> to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your
> own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.)
> 
> If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own,
> please do ;)
> 
> -- Enric
> -==-
>

[videoblogging] Re: September SF Video Edit

[Enric]

Cool.

I'm going to ask people who come to spend some time sharing their
editing methods.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Enric,
> 
> This is great.
> 
> I love it.
> 
> At PodCamp Philly participants in my session produced, acted in, and  
> shot a video, then edited it on the big screen with everyone watching  
> and giving feedback as I edited.
> 
> It was fun.
> 
> I like this idea.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> On Sep 17, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Enric wrote:
> 
> > SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 9/29 from 4 pm - 11 pm at
> > Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco.
> >
> > Sign up and location information is on upcoming.org:
> > http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/
> >
> > Wiki for SF Video Edit is at:
> > http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php
> >
> >
> > It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around.
> >
> > Standard Inform:
> > ===
> > Most people edit alone, now you have a choice.
> >
> > Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video
> > Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location.
> > Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you
> > can choose to:
> >
> > + Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or
> > + Go over edits with others who are around; or
> > + Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or
> > + Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or
> > + Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone.
> >
> > Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection
> > to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your
> > own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.)
> >
> > If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own,
> > please do ;)
> >
> > -- Enric
> > -==-
>

[videoblogging] September SF Video Edit

[Enric]

SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 9/29 from 4 pm - 11 pm at
Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco.  

Sign up and location information is on upcoming.org:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/

Wiki for SF Video Edit is at:
http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php


It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around.

Standard Inform:
===
Most people edit alone, now you have a choice.

Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video
Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location.
Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you
can choose to:

+ Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or
+ Go over edits with others who are around; or
+ Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or
+ Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or
+ Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone.

Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection
to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your
own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.)

If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own,
please do ;)

-- Enric
-==-

[videoblogging] Re: FireAnt acquired by Odeo

[Enric]

Good to hear things are working well for you.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Kinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Today it was announced that FireAnt's software and technology
> <http://GetFireAnt.com> was acquired by SonicMountain, a company that
> also recently acquired Odeo <http://odeo.com> (see:
> <http://tinyurl.com/3bbpsg>).
> 
> I've been asked to join the new team, serving as VP of Product
> Development, and will be heading up FireAnt's transition (among other
> projects) as we re-launch everything under the Odeo brand later this
> year.
> 
> First of all, I want to say Thank You to everyone in the videoblogging
> community who supported FireAnt along the way, especially Jay Dedman,
> Daniel Salber, Erik Radmall, and Clint Sharp, who were instrumental in
> launching this project. We met a lot of wonderful creative people, and
> made some really important lifelong friendships. It's been an amazing
> privilege to contribute to this dynamic and innovative community, and
> especially to have been involved from such an early stage. I also want
> to thank Jonathan Weiss, Drew Reynaud, and Jesse Boley who continued
> FireAnt's technology development over the past year, which was demo'd
> at Video on the Net in March 2007.
> 
> When we first launched "ANTs Not TV" at Vloggercon in January 2005,
> there were about 20 active videobloggers â€" we knew each of them
> personally and worked with most of them to create those magical RSS
> feeds with enclosures. It was amazing to see all these video channels
> updating over time and to watch them in a unified experience. There
> was nothing else like it. It was clear that something powerful was
> happening. It was a new kind of television, and yet it was not like TV
> at all â€" it was open to anyone and the possibilities seemed endless.
> 
> And it began to spread… thanks to the many talented and creative video
> producers, educators, and evangelists.
> 
> While FireAnt had its share of struggles along the way as a start up,
> I'm encouraged that the ideas we helped pioneer have grown incredibly
> stronger over the past few years. This "Not TV" (now more often called
> "Internet TV") is really changing the media culture, and it's having
> profound social effects. The medium is enabling new voices and
> conversations. The playing field is being leveled â€" the barriers
> between "Internet TV" and "TV" are disintegrating.
> 
> So it's up to us to create what we want to see and share… We don't
> have to rely on Rupert Murdoch and Sumner Redstone to create our
> culture. Thank goodness!
> 
> I look forward to watching your videos (and subscribing!). When I get
> back to producing a more regular videoblog (or whatever it's called),
> I hope you'll subscribe and leave me a comment :-)
> 
> Best,
> Josh
> 
> -
> <http://JoshKinberg.com>
>

[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube

[Enric]

Well I wish you the best of luck in your decision either way.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Ok. I work for a company where I am privy to vast amounts of personal
> and financial information for both individuals and enterprises.
> 
> My assumption is that they dont want that information to be published
> on blog sites for anyone to see. So, to guard against that I guess,
> they say the employees arent allowed to have blogs. A rather archaic
> method, to say the least, of preventing an information leak on such a
> grand scale that a blog would provide.
> 
> Personally I think it's just a way for them to get their rocks off in
> thinking they have full control over our personal lives. I in no way
> understand why their rules are thus however if I break those rules, as
> it states in the policy I signed, I would be dismissed from my position.
> 
> Again. I take full blame and am taking the weekend to decide if I
> really want to work for a company that treats it's employees this way.
> I cant afford to be unemployed however this might just be the kick in
> the arse that pushes me into the freelancing world full-time rather
> than evenings and weekends.
> 
> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf  wrote:
> >
> > There's something strange about your company unilaterally blocking  
> > "advocacy groups," but I haven't the foggiest what you do, and have  
> > never worked somewhere with content filters so maybe it's all a bit  
> > more common than I realized.
> > 
> > 
> > You state that the company policy is no blogs. What exactly is the  
> > purpose behind this ban? Would you be prohibited from writing a  
> > letter to the editor? Publishing a paper-zine? Making your own films  
> > that were distributed through traditional means? It's all a bit  
> > puzzling, you know?
> > 
> > Josh
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 14, 2007, at 9:31 AM, David Howell wrote:
> > 
> > > My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy
states
> > > that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further
> > > detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have.
Just a
> > > blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and
agreed to
> > > it. My own fault. I take full responsibility.
> > >
> > > I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to
> > > Websense here at work..."The category "Advocacy Groups" is
filtered."
> > >
> > > David
> > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > >
> > > > Does your blog have to do with your work? If not, how can a
company
> > > > tell you how to behave outside of your worktime? If the blog
doesn't
> > > > relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eff.org/about/contact/
> > > >
> > > > -- Enric
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube

[Enric]

Here's the information on the EFF contact page:


Contact Information

For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the
appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone.
San Francisco
Main Office

Address:Phone/Fax Numbers:
Electronic Frontier Foundation
454 Shotwell Street
San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA Phone: +1 415 436 9333
Fax: +1 415 436 9993

Washington, DC
Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel

Address:Phone/Fax Numbers:
1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650
Washington, DC 20009Phone: +1 202 797 9009
Fax: +1 202 797 9066

Email Addresses
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   For membership, donation, corporate giving or
matching gifts information
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   For media inquiries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   For issues or problems relating to the Action Center
or Action Alerts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   For website problems or suggestions (not Action Center)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   For questions, requests, or misc. queries


Business can have contracts that don't hold up in court.  Signing an
illegal contract does not make it binding.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy states
> that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further
> detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have. Just a
> blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and agreed to
> it. My own fault. I take full responsibility.
> 
> I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to
> Websense here at work..."The category "Advocacy Groups" is filtered."
> 
> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> 
> > Does your blog have to do with your work?  If not, how can a company
> > tell you how to behave outside of your worktime?  If the blog doesn't
> > relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this:
> > 
> > http://www.eff.org/about/contact/
> > 
> >   -- Enric
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube

[Enric]

Ahh, yahoo concatenates email addresses.  Here's the EFF contact info
with @ replaced with [at]:

Contact Information

For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the
appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone.
San Francisco
Main Office

Address:Phone/Fax Numbers:
Electronic Frontier Foundation
454 Shotwell Street
San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA Phone: +1 415 436 9333
Fax: +1 415 436 9993

Washington, DC
Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel

Address:Phone/Fax Numbers:
1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650
Washington, DC 20009Phone: +1 202 797 9009
Fax: +1 202 797 9066

Email Addresses
membership[at]eff.org   For membership, donation, corporate giving or
matching gifts information
press[at]eff.orgFor media inquiries
action[at]eff.org   For issues or problems relating to the Action
Center or Action Alerts
webmaster[at]eff.orgFor website problems or suggestions (not Action
Center)
information[at]eff.org  For questions, requests, or misc. queries

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's the information on the EFF contact page:
> 
> 
> Contact Information
> 
> For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the
> appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone.
> San Francisco
> Main Office
> 
> Address:  Phone/Fax Numbers:
>   Electronic Frontier Foundation
> 454 Shotwell Street
> San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA   Phone: +1 415 436 9333
> Fax: +1 415 436 9993
> 
> Washington, DC
> Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel
> 
> Address:  Phone/Fax Numbers:
>   1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650
> Washington, DC 20009  Phone: +1 202 797 9009
> Fax: +1 202 797 9066
> 
> Email Addresses
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For membership, donation, corporate giving or
> matching gifts information
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For media inquiries
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For issues or problems relating to the Action Center
> or Action Alerts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For website problems or suggestions (not Action Center)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For questions, requests, or misc. queries
> 
> 
> Business can have contracts that don't hold up in court.  Signing an
> illegal contract does not make it binding.
> 
>   -- Enric
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" 
> wrote:
> >
> > My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy states
> > that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further
> > detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have. Just a
> > blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and agreed to
> > it. My own fault. I take full responsibility.
> > 
> > I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to
> > Websense here at work..."The category "Advocacy Groups" is filtered."
> > 
> > David
> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > 
> > 
> > > Does your blog have to do with your work?  If not, how can a company
> > > tell you how to behave outside of your worktime?  If the blog
doesn't
> > > relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this:
> > > 
> > > http://www.eff.org/about/contact/
> > > 
> > >   -- Enric
> > >
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Gena, so very few want something different these days. Most are
> content with the usual stuff (garbage) found on YouTube.
> 
> I find it disheartening that there are so few interested in content
> that may be regarded as "alternative vlogs". Trying to reach out to
> those few is a lonely task. 1 hit here. 1 hit there. Very few return.
> I do cherish those that come back again and again though. Those that
> return are generally people that I now call friends. It may just be my
> form of an alternative vlog that people dont find interesting? I dont
> know? If I knew that, your post of "When to let it go..." would be
> easier to answer.
> 
> Regardless. My employer found my sites yesterday and I've been
> informed that if I want to keep working there, I needed to remove them
> (my sites). Strict corporate policy of no "blogs". Yes...I know I
> know. It's not a "blog". They dont care. It's close enough to being
> one. I guess I will be making my decision as to what I am going to do
> over the weekend. I cant afford to be jobless and my site doesnt earn
> me a living.

Does your blog have to do with your work?  If not, how can a company
tell you how to behave outside of your worktime?  If the blog doesn't
relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this:

http://www.eff.org/about/contact/

  -- Enric

> 
> Any ways...yeah. Go the Social Media way and not have a site or have
> your own site and run it the way you want? I would always recommend
> that one have their own site and control their own destiny. You can
> always steal a little here and there from these social media sites and
> incorporate it into your own site. That's always an option.
> 
> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena"  wrote:
> >
> > Not everyone wants base level content. We have that on M$M. Part of
> > our job is to connect with those folks who do want something
> > different. (I'm especially talking to you David Howell!)
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: thanks!! and vpip

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Rein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Enric!
> 
> Thanks for coming to my show Sunday! :-)

Thank you; it was fun to listen to music and meet friends.

> 
> Hey i have some questions for you re: vpip:
> 
> 1) is the "share" the same as the "embed" code? or is that a way to
email
> things.

The "share" button provides embed code that lets your videos travel
from web page to web page.

> 
> 2) can you play windows media files?

Yes, also QuickTime, Flash and Ogg.

> 
> 3) what's the embed code for vpip itself
> 

vPIP is available from http://vpip.org

  ;),

   Enric

> thanks!
> 
> lisa
>

[videoblogging] Re: Jonny's Par-tay Double Feature: Jay Dedman & Kathryn V. Jones, this Weds

[Enric]

Could these shows be put on upcoming.org or another service that let's
you click to add to your calendar?

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jonny goldstein"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 9-10PM Eastern, Weds Sept. 12
> 
> The first half hour will feature media iconoclast Jay Dedman who is
> wondering now that it's gotten easy to make stuff, what we're going to
> make.
> 
> The second half of the show will feature Kathryn V. Jones who is
> poised to debut "35" a scripted, plot-driven, live web video dramatic
> series next week. 
> 
> Jay and Kathryn are people who push the edge. Come out on the edge
> with us and par-tay. As always, you are the biggest part of the
> par-tay with the live chatroom (and if you get an operator11.com
> account, we can get you into the mix via your webcam too).
> 
> More details here: http://tinyurl.com/39opxh
>

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.12c Beta bug fix release

[Enric]

If you got vPIP 1.12a or 1.12b, this release fixes bugs in sharing the
embed code.  You should download this release soon so the bug doesn't
propagate to sites sharing your video vPIP embed code.

Get this version at vPIP:

http://vpip.org/

To download this version with ShowInABox go to:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

and get "The Whole Enchilada"

For usage instruction see:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported video (and audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv
o Ogg
o .ogg
o .ogv
o .oga

;),

Enric
-===-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.vpip.org

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.12 Beta (with a new share video embeds) available

[Enric]

The major change is in sharing Wordpress vPIP video embeds.  It has
been simplified and extended.  Simplified in that your entire vPIP
embed layout is provided in the embed share code.  Extended, so that
the shared code includes the share embed option (button and code.)  So
if you have a popular video it will just continue to travel as people
pick it up and embed it from site to site...

As normal, you can get the new version at vPIP:

http://vpip.org/

To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

and get "The Whole Enchilada"

For usage instruction see:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported video (and audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv
o Ogg
o .ogg
o .ogv
o .oga

;),

Enric
-===-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.vpip.org

[videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta maintenance release

[Enric]

I'll have another release probably before next week that fixes a bug
in the embed code (if you have ThickBox off it still puts the embed
code to use ThickBox, but with the ThickBox script reference missing.)
 And the embed code will match the layout of your vPIP entry with it's
own share-embed option.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Coffey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Enric, I'll have Jen Simmons update my page real soon!
> 
> Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  A bug in the Wordpress version of
vPIP was found that can appear under
> some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion
> entries messed up. This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now
> available. If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b,
> it's advised to install this release. 
> 
> vPIP wordpress download and install page:
> 
> http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install
> 
> included with ShowInABox:
> 
> http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/
> 
> ;),
> 
> Enric
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and
Cocktails www.jchtv.com
>
> -
> Got a little couch potato? 
> Check out fun summer activities for kids.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta interim release

[Enric]

I've added Ogg support to the .ogv and .oga extensions in vpip.js. 
And it will be in the next release.  I don't think cortada.jar cares
about extension, but the internal format -- so it should work with them.

Someone can specify any file with or without extension in the
Vlogsplosion Ogg media entry text box and it should take it.  That's
true for all the media entry areas.
  
  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Enric,
> 
> On 8/31/07, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  The supported media (video & audio) formats are:
> >
> >  * Quicktime
> >  o .mov
> >  o .mp4
> >  o .mp3 (audio)
> >  o .smi or .smil
> >  o .3gp
> >  * Windows Media
> >  o .avi
> >  o .wmv
> >  o .asf
> >  o .wma (audio)
> >  * Flash
> >  o .swf
> >  o .flv
> >  o Ogg
> >  o .ogg
> 
> Could you make it so Ogg can also handle the .ogv extension.  (In
addition
> of .ogg)
> 
> (It's detailed here:
> http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/MIME_Types_and_File_Extensions )
> 
> Because some software can only tell types based on extension... the
people
> at Xiph decided to start using .ogv for video (and .oga for audio, etc).
> 
> .ogg still works too... and you should still support that too... but you
> don't know what it is based on the extension.  (It could be video,
it could
> be audio, it could be something else.) (You'd have to have an HTTP
> "Content-Type" available, or probe the file.)
> 
> 
> See ya
> 
> -- 
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
> 
> 
>  Vlog Razor... Vlogging News
> http://vlograzor.com/
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release (was Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta...)

[Enric]

Oops, that should have said "vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release"

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under
> some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion
> entries messed up.  This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now
> available.  If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b,
> it's advised to install this release.  
> 
> vPIP wordpress download and install page:
> 
> http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install
> 
> included with ShowInABox:
> 
> http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/
> 
>;),
> 
> Enric
>

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11b Beta maintenance release

[Enric]

A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under
some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion
entries messed up.  This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now
available.  If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b,
it's advised to install this release.  

vPIP wordpress download and install page:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install

included with ShowInABox:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

   ;),

Enric

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11b Beta interim release

[Enric]

This interim release enhances the embed code options.  You can now set
the text of the share button title.  And you can turn of CSS styling
for the embed code area so you can style it yourself.  The list of
classes to style is in the documentation:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion

To download only vPIP go to:

http://vpip.org/

and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP.

To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

and get "The Whole Enchilada"

For usage instruction see:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion
and
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Playing_Flash

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported media (video & audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv
o Ogg
    o .ogg


;),

Enric
-===-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.vpip.org

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support & share video) available

[Enric]

The main features of this release is being able to play Ogg video with
the included cortado Ogg player.  And on wordpress you can share the
embed code of your videos so viewers can embed the video on their sites.

To download only vPIP go to:

http://vpip.org/

and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP.

To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

and get "The Whole Enchilada"

For usage instruction see:

http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion
and
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Playing_Flash

About vPIP
--
vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after
the viewer clicks on the link.

Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the
viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking
on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one.

The supported video (and audio) formats are:

* Quicktime
o .mov
o .mp4
o .mp3 (audio)
o .smi or .smil
o .3gp
* Windows Media
o .avi
o .wmv
o .asf
o .wma (audio)
* Flash
o .swf
o .flv
o Ogg
o .ogg


;),

Enric
-===-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.vpip.org

[videoblogging] Re: Unrealistic Expectations Of Social Media

[Enric]

Not

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> who is watching it?
> 
> On 8/24/07, bordercollieaustralianshepherd <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I watched it when it first launched. Slick, well funded. Good
> > production. From what I remember of my first visit/impression, the
> > "joke" was funny, but I didn't think Sands of Passion would sustain
> > itself. I was wrong.
> >
> > Passion did not make me want to return. Could be my age, or my Cialis
> > and Riddlin cocktail had worn wore off that day. Maybe I didn't like
> > the burkas. I am a jeans and T-shirt guy.
> >
> > I dropped in when the link was posted again, but the quick look was
> > all. Did not launch a video to see what, where it had changed.
> >
> > So when you asked again, I took a quick trip over this morning and the
> > site loads so slow I resorted to the cache to have a look (I often
> > load a new page in the background so do not know how long it took to
> > load yesterday). It is not loading either.
> >
> > My third impression is that it just ain't for me. Younger people maybe
> > (obviously people are watching it).
> >
> > Looking back at my chat archive first impression was:
> > "the future of television" and I liked "state of the union" but I
> > summed it up (as if my opinion matters) "not really ready for
prime time"
> >
> > My friend's response:
> > "Oh This is funny" and "Oh this is soo good"
> >
> > To each his own.
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
,
> > Irina  wrote:
> > >
> > > did any of you watch NationalBanana?
> > >
> > > anyone?
> > >
> > > On 8/22/07, schlomo rabinowitz  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > True; this has all happened since I made the initial post to the
> > group.
> > > > The
> > > > web moves fast!!
> > > >
> > > > To the group, who may not read all those emails, ConvergeSouth
> > took away
> > > > his
> > > > spot but later offered him a slot to discuss what must be
> > earth-shattering
> > > > issues that pertain directly to Feldman.
> > > >
> > > > The conference felt that his How To session would be
overshadowed by
> > > > Feldman's controversy... which may have happened, but honestly, I
> > don't
> > > > think it would have... but what do I know.
> > > >
> > > > Feldman is still declining the offer, thinking that he would
just be
> > > > walking
> > > > into some sort of trap.
> > > >
> > > > So basically, Feldman and ConvergeSouth have agreed to disagree.
> > > >
> > > > Like sand in the hourglass, these are the days of our lives.
> > > >
> > > > Schlomo
> > > > http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> > > > http://weknowhow.tv
> > > > http://winkshow.com
> > > > http://hatfactory.net
> > > >
> > > > On 8/22/07, Jeffrey Taylor
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Read the comments. All of them. Converge South, in the end, IS
> > inviting
> > > > > Feldman, but to lead a session about the controversy itself.
> > Organizer
> > > > Ed
> > > > > Cone says that they want the focus on the videoblogging session
> > to be on
> > > > > teaching people to videoblog, and not be sidetracked by the
issues
> > > > > surrounding Feldman.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.1938media.com/convergesouth/
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22/08/07, Enric  > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
 > s.com>,
> > > > > > "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.human-dog.com Hope they create a test pattern.
> > Heck I may
> > > > > > > create a test pattern. Anything with Dog can't be all bad. I
> > have a
> > > > > > > soft spot for tongue in snout humor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Funny. Kinda Hitchcock in the delivery. Anyone with Sir
starting
> > > > their
> > > > > > > name garners my 

[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Chris Brogan has invited you to Spock

[Enric]

Watch out for the Mind Meld!

http://tinyurl.com/2hvoln

  ;

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> N
> 
> 
> karma is a biatch
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Spock Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM
> Subject: Chris Brogan has invited you to Spock
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hi Future Spocker,
> 
> Chris Brogan
has
> invited you to check out Spock, a new search engine that organizes
> information around people.
> 
> Click
hereto
> start searching on Spock for yourself and people you know.
> 
> Thanks!
> The Spock Team
> 
> Unsubscribe: http://www.spock.com/do/public/request_unsubscribe
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://geekentertainment.tv
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Marriage

[Enric]

That's really cool, Josh.  Thanks for including in your Marriage.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't usually promote videos here on the list but over the past 2+
years,
> this group has become an important part of my life. So I thought i would
> share another important part of my life with you...
> 
> My Wedding and more:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2yntxf
> 
> 
> it isn't the whole wedding (thought i did have 4 cameras filming it)
but it
> is a nice taste of what happened that week...
> 
> thanks
> 
> -- 
> Josh Leo
> 
> www.JoshLeo.com
> www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
> www.SlowLorisMedia.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: for Podtech re: racist posts by Loren Feldman and lack of responsibility

[Enric]

I found "Lukewarm Ghetto Snooze",

http://www.podtech.net/home/3699/lukewarm-ghetto-snooze

has insightful points on cultural criticism.

   -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well I for one, as a young(ish?) Black man who has
> devoted my life to representing hip-hop, I hope to
> counteract such ignorance with each of my videos at
> illdoctrine.com.
> 
> And since I'm also a PodTech partner, whose videos
> appear alongside 1938media's on PodTech's
> "entertainment" page, I specifically posted my latest
> video to counter the bilious idiocy of the "technigga"
> clip:
> 
> http://www.illdoctrine.com/2007/08/krs_one_how_to_see_your_future.html
> 
> Didn't want to give that video any further publicity
> by acknowledging it, so I tried to offer a more
> genuine example of what hip-hop can look like, and
> what the young people (Black and otherwise) who
> represent it can sound like.
> 
> For the record, I've met Loren Feldman and he seemed
> to be good people, and I usually enjoy his videos. But
> he made a grievous error on this one, and the ensuing
> "rehab" schtick does nothing to justify it. If
> anything it just adds insult to injury, as he
> maneuvers to evade accountability for his hateful
> provocation. 
> 
> Such an ugly and silly game to play, like kicking
> someone and then telling them they're stupid for
> saying "ouch". 
> 
> jay smooth
> illdoctrine.com
> 
> 
> --- stbdpittsburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Gena mentioned the following point:
> > 
> > > There will be other videos like this. What can we
> > do as a community or
> > > individuals to make our anger know? We have
> > choices of finding new
> > paths.
> > 
> > Which makes me wonder...
> > 
> > Where are the proactive videos in response to this?
> > 
> > If we're all so up in arms about the issue, why not
> > create videos that
> > disprove Loren's perceived theory about black /
> > hip-hop culture? 
> > (That is, rather than petitioning PodTech (whom, a
> > week ago, everyone
> > wanted to pillory for withholding cash from Lan Bui
> > and firing Irina
> > Slutsky) to now exercise some form of "acceptable"
> > behavior by
> > censoring a video on their channel...)
> > 
> > I know, I know -- people shouldn't HAVE to defend
> > themselves from this
> > kind of biased attack. But, if left unchecked...
> > 
> > Cheers.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>
>

> Got a little couch potato? 
> Check out fun summer activities for kids.
>
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
>

[videoblogging] For Dan McVicar (was Re: Loren Feldman )

[Enric]

Lenny Bruce, offensive humor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPlQyk37dwI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMIOADkVKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvS4BcJ2lFo
Dustin Hoffman as Lenny:  http://tinyurl.com/2dtx2o

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > Oh..it's comedy...like the guy that plays Kramer was doing comedy. So,
> > I'm supposed to not feel offended now?
> >
> You're not alone. Is the intent to offended.
> 
> > Where is Podtech on all of this? 1938 Media has a content deal with
> > Podtech, correct?  No blog post or comments from Scoble that I saw
> > (quick scan only..feel free to point me to them) ...so either black
> > folks dont even the the courtesy of some honest public outrage
from the
> > most prominent tech blogger or...(gasp).. it must be ok then... you
> > know...wink...wink..nudge..nudge..we are
"outraged"...really...take our
> > word for it.   I'm asking myself why I even need to type this
> 
> Why is it PodTech keeps getting spanked by some in here? Residual
outrage? Easy target? 
> Hidden agenda? Following that logic, we should be writing to the
ISP's and demanding 
> Loren's access denied, PodTech's servers shut down. That leads to
other services where 
> the video might land. And all the immature posted comments many of
us do not agree 
> with?  Report them too? We could be at this for years, chasing the
cause/effect threads 
> that would start.
> 
> > 
> > Here is/was a chance for Scoble and Podtech to really take a public
> > stand on something that not only matters but also seems under their
> > control to at least tangentially provide consequences.  I mean
something
> > more substantial than just not blogging for a couple of days.
Loren has
> > every right to freedom of speech...but he doesnt need to do it as part
> > of the business relationship with Podtech...
> > 
> 
> Use freedom of speech to deny freedom of speech. I am at my wits end
with another thing 
> with a similar loop. "If you change the way you look at things, the
things you look at 
> change." ... this sentence format is showing up all over the place.
In church...Honor God 
> and God will honor you. In politics .. I was listening to the Senate
and one of them used 
> this circle speak to make a point about the war or health care. 
> 
> > Podtech - do the right thing and permanently sever the business
> > relationship then publically say why.
> > 
> 
> That would only brush the larger issue(s) under the rug?
> Loeren (the idiot or genius - and I am being sarcastic until the
details are clear) is 
> censured/removed, Podtech apologizes. Everything is back to normal.
Comfortably Numb?
> 
> I am going to reserve judgement at least another week. See how all
of this plays out. I 
> thought the tin foil hat someone posted was a wild take. Imagine if
it was a big "we punk'd 
> you" stunt.
> 
> If it turns out that this is an ill-conceived, poorly executed,
window to his soul video, I will 
> be disapointed. Until then, at least it is a catylist for change.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zenophon Abraham
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Irina and all,
> > >
> > > Dan speaks for me; I for one don't understand -- or
> > > want to -- this need to express racism via this
> > > medium. I also remind all that the American
> > > Psychiatric Association does consider racism a mental
> > > illness like depression.
> > >
> > > Zennie
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Irina irinaski@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > out of all the hullabahoo, daniel mcvicar sums it up
> > > > best for me in what he
> > > > wrote below.
> > > >
> > > > On 8/5/07, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Loren Feldman's post was wrong, terribly wrong.
> > > > His followup piece playing
> > > > > the rehab card, tongue in cheek, was a dismissal
> > > > of any responsibility that
> > > > > he may have for putting this poison out.
> > > > >
> > > > > This 'satire" is destructive, and serves no
> > > > purpose.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is also, for me, a negative reflection on
> > > > Podtech. I sent John Furrier
> > > > > a message suggesting that Podtech cut ties with
> > > > 1938media. I think it is the
> > > > > right thing to do for them, because they are
> > > > besmirched by association.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am also dismayed by the comments that appeared
> > > > on 1938media from
> > > > > snickering people with pseudonyms that continue
> > > > the lousy and abhorrent
> > > > > jokes. That is how poison is spread, how racism
> > > > gets perpetuated.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish Loren Feldman all the best, but I do not
> > > > want this racist humor to
> > > > > be part of my life or of my community.
> > > > >
> > > > > _
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://geekentertainment.tv
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > > removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

[videoblogging] Re:Loren Feldman = Technigga

[Enric]

Well, Loren has a new video up today, 

http://tinyurl.com/ypgxm6
or
http://www.1938media.com/statement-from-loren-feldman-in-rehab/

It's a take off on Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange",

http://tinyurl.com/3d3kr4
or
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=12650242
http://youtube.com/watch?v=89GSUhzT3Ow

My impression is that Loren is satirizing the modern ritual of:
faux-pas, condemnation, followed by attempted redemption in a drug clinic.

My view is that human beings are so similar (even though before the
modern era somewhat separated by locale) that drawing any conclusion
on individuals by race isn't tenable.  

What I do think is going on is a earlier, tribal view of the world.  A
view where the tribe that's somewhat different across the hill is in
competition for limited resources.  And discrimination makes some
sense in that earlier -- but by evolutionary standards very recent --
period.  So we have this tribal bagage -- we can supress it, laugh at
it, condemn it, etc.  But, I think we're stuck with dealing with it
and it's problems.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JayVivid th Orignal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Humor is subjective.  But there certain universal things that
everybody get even in race jokes.  Richard Pryor was revered because
he told the truth without exaggerating the truth or 
> perception of it.   Even Chris Rock has his moments.  Paul Mooney is
another great comedian and comic writer.  It seems when non-white try
to do race humor they rely to heavily tired ol' stereotype that's a
throwback to slave days, jim crow and blaxploition era  with
superficial updates.  The stuff that only closet bigots, redneck and
neo-nazi's  would think is funny and "edgy.(before folks start jumping
to reply.  I'm not talking about the guy's video in question but I'm
talking in general)  If one is truly funny, it will come across
naturally without forcing it.   Real good race humor should be able to
cross cultural lines and expose a hypocrisies or satirically pokes fun
on both sides.in overtly demeaning.  Like saying hey world looked the
fucked up things we both do or say.  Could someone explain being 
> a complete and jerk is funny. Is this a cultural thing that I am
missing.  Please fill me in on the joke because its not shading new
light or serving a constructive purpose.  Unless the purpose to have
folks openly talk about beside surface dressing conversation.   Ok I
know this is a videoblogging group and I expect to hear everything
from pc to non-pc to neutral moderate.  A reflection of conversation
that goes on or should say doesn't go on.  The topic of race is an
optional lunary.   Most folks can care less until it affect directly.
(just my modest opinion)  Has used video in a meaningful way to
illustrate cultural differences and similarities. (I'm ahead of the
game.  Someone going to say why don't you create this video.   I would
but I lost my only camera so I'm working my azz off o get a new one.).
 Now that is truely edgy and revolutionary.  If say somethings
something funny and makes me say damn thats kind of fucked up but its
still funny and I can admit to that
>  observation if it has a smidgen of truth to it..  If its funny and
not overt;y racist I will give 
> a god comedian his/her props.  No amount of "think skin" is going 
> is going to make me tolerate race humor that is bad and purely
mean-spirited.  Then again, if you think being mean-spiritness 
> is "edgy.."  With a saturation of the over-the-edge shockjocks,  
> I guess that's what some folks is funny nowadays.  Like they say
different strokes for different folks.
> 
> P.S. If you want to see race humor done right go see
>  the movie Talk to Me starring Don Cheadle.  It's based
> on the radio disc jockey in DC names Petey Reeves.
> Matter-of-fact, go to YouTube and you will a clip about 
> how to eat watermelons thats deeps but thought-provoking.
> I spoil for you, just go and see and laugh your head off.
> 
> 
>
> -
> Building a website is a piece of cake. 
> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Loren Feldman = Technigga

[Enric]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QNCYcYQXKHI

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "bordercollieaustralianshepherd"
>  wrote:
> >
> > There is so much on TV (and online) that is far worse. Flavor of
> Love, Charm School, and a 
> > couple of other train wrecks disguised as entertainment ... It is
> not my idea of equal 
> > access/time or reflection of the culture as a whole. Like the Fox
> network, it comes across 
> > more like a wink and a nod. 
> > 
> > I went back to watch the video again was Loren's video meant to
> be a bad take off of 
> > Jamie Kennedy's white man badly imitating a black man? Was he doing
> a take off of a 
> > wigger? I'd like to know. I assumed because Bill posted the link
> that he was sharing a 
> > friends video.
> 
> I've never met or had any conversations with Loren, ever.
> 
> I became aware of the video because of a friend's twitter about it.
> 
> I posted the link perfectly context-free because I was interested in
> what conversation would develop on this yahoo group about it.
> 
> I haven't posted an opinion about it anywhere, pro or con.
> 
> I'm getting a lot out of the responses from people as well as the
> non-responses from people.
> 
> --
> billcammack
> http://reelsolid.tv
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Where are the black tech bloggers? Good question. Using himself as
> the sterotype of what 
> > a white guy would imagine a black tech blogger to be seemed like it
> was meant as a 
> > introspective of a white corporate America. You know ... Black actor
> gets killed saving 
> > white guy, black "sidekick", black drug addict, Pimp. Too bad Loren
> did not hit the mark. 
> > Uncover the truth. Shed light on the problem. Be clear in his
> meaning. I gave him some 
> > slack. From reading the follow ups, and having viewed very little of
> his other stuff, perhaps 
> > I should not. Is he exposing his repressed prejudice? Did he provide
> a opportunity for 
> > reflection/discussion/debate? Can anything positive be gained from
this?
> > 
> > Why is there so few minority _ (fill in the blank)
>  
> > 
> > Personally, I pay little attention to the crap. I think that
> prejudice best describes the 
> > problem. It makes it what it is, a individual's character flaw.There
> are plenty of assholes. I 
> > prefer to focus as much as possible on the people I admire.  
> > 
> > So forget stupid and check out smart:
> > Cornell West http://www.pragmatism.org/library/west/
> > Tavis Smiley http://www.covenantwithblackamerica.com/
> > Tim Reid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Reid
> > Eleanor Holmes Norton http://www.norton.house.gov/index.php
> > Dave Chappelle http://www.davechappelle.com/
> > Chris Tucker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Tucker
> > John Conyers http://www.johnconyers.com
> > Maya Angelou http://www.mayaangelou.com/
> > KRS-ONE http://www.templeofhiphop.org/
> > Maxine Waters http://www.house.gov/waters/
> > 
> > In closing, I really think that inexpensive computers and access
> (WiFi or Broadband) are the 
> > solution to empowering, educating and equality.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, ya'all this video is totally racist. I find it very
strange we  
> > > now live in a world where many want to say "hey it's ok with me"
and  
> > > "that's not racist, just lame". Yes, it is a bad video, lame, etc.  
> > > But also — it is racist. It plays on and depends on racist
> stereotypes.
> > > 
> > > Let's just call it what it is.
> > > 
> > > Do I think Blip.tv should pull it — no.
> > > Do I think we should make a big deal out of it — no.
> > > In fact the "its ok with me" trend of this discussion is more  
> > > upsetting to me than the original video. The right has certainly  
> > > succeeded in twisting our ability to understand what racism is,
how  
> > > it has worked, and how it is currently being perpetuated. That was  
> > > their goal, well stated, documented... in the 1970s after the two  
> > > decades of civil rights movement successes. David Duke and company  
> > > (otherwise known as the Klan) set out a 20-year strategic plan
that  
> > > included introducing the idea of "reverse racism" into our
culture.  
> > > Which they did (check out the 1992 republican national convention).
> > > 
> > > It's the how of racism looks today, people. Which is different
than  
> > > how racism looked twenty years ago, or forty years ago, or 100
years  
> > > ago. But just because it's different, (and thank god it is),
doesn't  
> > > mean racism doesn't exist or this isn't racist.
> > > 
> > > Jen
> > >
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Loren Feldman = Technigga

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Loren Feldman = Technigga <http://1938media.blip.tv/file/326972/>
>

Wow, funy!
  

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] August SF Video Edit

[Enric]

The next SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 8/25 from 4 pm - 11 pm!

It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around.

Standard Inform:
===
Most people edit alone, now you have a choice.

Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video
Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location.
Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you
can choose to:

+ Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or
+ Go over edits with others who are around; or
+ Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or
+ Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or
+ Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone.

Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection
to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your
own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.)

Sign up and location information on upcoming.org:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/

Wiki for SF Video Edit:
http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php

If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own,
please do ;)

-- Enric
-==-

[videoblogging] Use Flash 9?

[Enric]

According to Adobe's March, 2007 stats,

http://tinyurl.com/zzftm
or
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

Flash 9's penetration is a bit above 83% (while Flash 8 is above 96%).
 I'm still coding and encoding in Flash 8, but see more and more sites
requiring Flash 9.  Are most of you who encode Flash doing Flash 9?

  Thanks,

   Enric
   -===-
   http://cirne.com

[videoblogging] Re: new ways to distribute your shows

[Enric]

I found the band interviews (only saw the Slash & Duff McKagan so far)
pretty interesting:

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=50

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.mydamnchannel.com/
> 
> There isnt a huge amount of content yet, mostly warm-up trailers, but
> I found it quite watchable so far as its fairly tongue-in-cheek.
> 
> eg:
> 
> http://www.mydamnchannel.com/hotmentalfreedom.aspx (start your way to
> a bright non-compensated career in content generation lol)
> 
> http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=76
> 
> http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=100
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Smith"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, do you have a link to MY Damn Channel?   Thanks,
> > 
> > Edward SmithOffer 2 Free life-coaching sessions with an
experienced,
> > reputable life coach to purchasers of your book or product, at no
> cost to
> > you.  A proven way to increase your product sales and offer a $250
> value to
> > your customers, with no catches. Contact Theresa Smith at
201-568-0019,
> > email, tsmith@ or visit http://brightmoment.com/coaching.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Publicity or lack of, old and new

[Enric]

The course of the future manifestation of a technology is hard to
know.  Ideas popular at the time that people subscribe to and set as
standards such as transparency, end of privacy, elimination of
copyright, etc. may turn out prophetic, overblown or some combination
of both.  Evolution sorts out what works and doesn't -- the success is
usually there at the time, but usually not noticed.  But obvious
later.  Keeping eyes open and not entrenched in a set of ideas I think
is a good approach.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Lots of different discussions recently have got me thinking about
> publicity.
> 
> It strikes me that its become one of the weaker links, it hasnt
> evolved like the ease of use, technology & distribution stuff has.
> 
> I dunno, perhaps I would expect the various network/distribution/guide
> companies to do more to try to promote themselves beyond the
> web2.0/silly con valley/early adopter crowd, perhaps they do try but
> its not easy.
> 
> I jusst think that if I actually had a show, I would be looking for a
> partner that could deliver some real value by actually being able to
> do a decent job of promoting the show. Now this does tie in to
> distribution, ie if you get on various settop or mobile networks &
> featured in their on screen guide, some more people will find you. But
> even on that front Ive not often seen the vlog-related new networks
> make that many tie-ups with these networks. Heck its really unclear
> what the reality is out there because there are plenty of positive
> stories with huge $ numbers attached to these things, but hard to see
> where its actually happening in reality.
> 
> Oh I dunno, it just strikes me that companies that expect to make
> money through advertising, need to find ways to advertise themselves
> better to the masses. Im conflicted on these points, as I hate many
> forms of advertising, and the net is supposed to have all sorts of new
> ways that people will find your content if they are interested, and
> various new forms of pblicity, concepts such as something going viral
> (as opposed to fake viral marketing). 
> 
> Ive long believed that the 'death of the music industry' predictors
> were ignoring the fact that just because the rules of distribution can
> change against established giants advantage, this does not
> automatically kill their ability to advertise their stuff, and get the
> mass customers needed to make the thing profitable.
> 
> Im also aware that some could say these things are a quality issue, if
> there were more shows out there that were 'must watch' to the majority
> of people, news of them would spread like wildfire, the people would
> find them for themselves. It may be true, I dunno, its a brave new
> world and Im not sure if we are there yet. In any case it seems that
> so far there are a few different types of companies out there that
> have emerged and could be interesting partners for vloggers. Whether
> they succeed or fail could depend just as much on keeping the right
> things from the old ways of doing business, as which elements of web 2
> they adopt. Maybe some companies have assumed the web will do their
> publicity for them, and been mistaken, or at least not realised quite
> what a narrow section of humans their marketing efforts have reached. 
> 
> But does this mean Im calling for some of the qualities of an old
> style TV network to be brought to vlog show business, when I previous
> reacted with horror and venom to such concepts? I dont know, I suppose
> at least in so much as I always found Channel Frederator rather
> watchable and yet it feels like a TV channel in some ways.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
>

[videoblogging] Re: Thankfully People Keep Trying

[Enric]

Quite accurate.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really don't want to add much more to any of this, except to  
> respond to Chris  and Enric that I don't want what happened on this  
> group to be characterised as people lynching, thrashing, whatevering  
> Podtech.
> 
> Podtech made a mistake, people called on them to do the right thing -  
> they didn't. And they didn't communicate. It dragged on. Podtech dug  
> their own hole.  We called them on their behaviour, and people here  
> were remarkably mature, balanced and restrained.
> 
> Along the way, separate to the discussion here, there were a couple  
> of cheap personal shots at Robert Scoble that were ignored.  And  
> there was a stupid article published by a writer from a valley rag,  
> who doesn't participate in this group (and someone told me he says he  
> hates videoblogs/videobloggers) - he said something like "because  
> people have been begging for it" as an excuse to use this group to  
> promote his poorly researched, bitterly-toned article.  I haven't  
> seen many people here begging for anything like that.
> 
> Part of the reason this all happened, Chris, is because a lot of  
> people thought about Podtech as you do.  I was disappointed and  
> irritated by their actions and indifference to people's concerns -  
> even to people's friendly advice.  Hopefully, they'll get their shit  
> together on their PR and attitude - they seem to be already - and  
> we'll all be better off for it.
> 
> Rupert
> 
> On 28 Jul 2007, at 19:50, [chrisbrogan.com] wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to see PodTech taking a thrashing in here. I understand the
> different viewpoints, from what I've read (not first hand), but from
> my perspective, they were out there trying some new things and looking
> for a way to make the bridge for people who wanted to make their video
> work a business.
> 
> Again, not saying anything about the deals and any breakdown in
> intentions. My point is simply this: it was nice to see another
> company out there taking a swing at making a viable business out of
> these new media creation methods.
> 
> Watching this group is interesting, because it's this Creature Cantina
> of various opinions, perspectives, goals, and aspirations. Some folks
> just want the medium to be free and open and about personal
> communication. Others are trying to build next-generation TV. Some are
> working on business models. Others could give a rat's ass if they see
> a dime from their video work.
> 
> And yet, we all still come here to hash it out, to learn, and
> apparently, to crap on people.
> 
> Thankfully, people keep on trying.
> 
> --Chris Brogan...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Re: Thankfully People Keep Trying

[Enric]

Wonders if the idea of "transparency" is becoming for some a
unquestionable good idea that allows any type of behavior toward
people running a business.  

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Crapping on people isnt a totally negative thing either though. Some
> truths can be lost if people are always afraid to be negative, and one
> mans crap is anothers fertilizer.
> 
> For sure it may not be the best of human nature, but it is real and
> companies and individuals who want to embrace the new open
> communication methods of the net, should learn to live with being
> crapped on, and if at all possible come to see it as something
positive. 
> 
> Respect is a strange concept, and the internet shines light on this,
> on the gulf that often exists between the respect people think they
> deserve, and what they actually get. Companies feeling they're getting
> no respect from those they are trying to help, others feeling like the
> company doesnt respect them because of the way it went about such and
> such. Not fun, but not necessarily unconstructive either.  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "[chrisbrogan.com]" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry to see PodTech taking a thrashing in here. I understand the
> > different viewpoints, from what I've read (not first hand), but from
> > my perspective, they were out there trying some new things and looking
> > for a way to make the bridge for people who wanted to make their video
> > work a business. 
> > 
> > Again, not saying anything about the deals and any breakdown in
> > intentions. My point is simply this: it was nice to see another
> > company out there taking a swing at making a viable business out of
> > these new media creation methods. 
> > 
> > Watching this group is interesting, because it's this Creature Cantina
> > of various opinions, perspectives, goals, and aspirations. Some folks
> > just want the medium to be free and open and about personal
> > communication. Others are trying to build next-generation TV. Some are
> > working on business models. Others could give a rat's ass if they see
> > a dime from their video work. 
> > 
> > And yet, we all still come here to hash it out, to learn, and
> > apparently, to crap on people. 
> > 
> > Thankfully, people keep on trying. 
> > 
> > --Chris Brogan...
> >
>

[videoblogging] Silverlight TopBanana editing

[Enric]

Beau Amber of Metaliq demos the online Silverlight editing app,
TopBanana (windows media video):

http://tinyurl.com/ywa3cz
or
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/5/0/85096922-090d-4dfa-96b6-f74810411973/FullCut2.wmv

info:

http://www.metaliq.com/portfolio/silverlight.html
http://www.visitmix.com/Blogs/Joshua/beau-ambur-of-metaliq/

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

[videoblogging] Re: I compiled a list of PodTech's latest meltdowns

[Enric]

I don't understand the rationale for the extent of the attack on 
PodTech.  While they've made mistakes, bumbled and are somewhat 
inept.  For some to wish that a company that's funding videobloggers 
being able to do their work should fail doesn't make sense to me.  

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Enric! Corrected.
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Douglas"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > Just 'cause some people keep begging for it: PodTech: The 
meltdown of
> > > the Valley's worst video network
> > >
> >
> <http://valleywag.com/tech/podtech/the-meltdown-of-the-valleys-
worst-vid\
> > > eo-network-282475.php>
> > > 
> > > I don't believe in writing purely negative forum posts. So: In 
other
> > > news, I'm addicted to pancake sandwiches. They are so tasty and 
eggy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > 
> > You may want to correct your facts about Loren's media on PodTech:
> > 
> > http://www.podtech.net/home/category/entertainment/1938-media/
> > 
> >   -- Enric
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: I compiled a list of PodTech's latest meltdowns

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just 'cause some people keep begging for it: PodTech: The meltdown of
> the Valley's worst video network
>
<http://valleywag.com/tech/podtech/the-meltdown-of-the-valleys-worst-vid\
> eo-network-282475.php>
> 
> I don't believe in writing purely negative forum posts. So: In other
> news, I'm addicted to pancake sandwiches. They are so tasty and eggy.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

You may want to correct your facts about Loren's media on PodTech:

http://www.podtech.net/home/category/entertainment/1938-media/

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: video coverage of Laughing Squid: Paradise Lost

[Enric]

I'll shoot.


http://tinyurl.com/2jufuq
http://tinyurl.com/2regdz

  ;),

   Enric
   -===-
   http://cirne.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Beale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, we are looking for a couple of people to shoot some video  
> at our big Laughing Squid: Paradise Lost event this Saturday in San  
> Francisco. We'll give you free admission, a Laughing Squid t-shirt  
> and a couple of drink tickets. The video would be for our archives,  
> but of course you can use it however you want as well (we don't need  
> any kind of exclusive rights) and if you want to edit something  
> together, even better. Oh and we can pay for tape stock as well.
> 
> Here's more info on the event:
> 
> http://laughingsquid.com/laughing-squid-paradise-lost/
> 
> We're also looking for a few lifecasting cyborgs to show up as well.
> 
> Scott
> 
> --
> 
> Scott Beale
> primary tentacle, Laughing Squid
> 
> website/blog: http://laughingsquid.com
> hosting: http://laughingsquid.net
> squid list: http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/events/
> photos: http://laughingsquid.com/photo/
> squid: http://squid.us
>

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fair enough, it is a very difficult balancing act, this business of
> how free peoples work should be.
> 
> You would lose the ability to negotiate compensation for a whole range
> of uses, but still retain it for others. Most of these licenses are
> similar to the share-alike part of creative commons, if someone is
> reusing your work, commercially or not, they can only do so if their
> new derivative is shared with everyone under the same terms. So people
> who wanted to reuse your work in other ways, would still need to do a
> deal with you.
> 
> But yeah, its still a bridge too far for many people, which is fair
> enough. Is it easier for something like software, compared to photos
> and video?

Yes, software has the ability to multiply in quality and capability as
more people add features and capabilities to it.  Media does not seem
to have that exponential property in re-use.  It does gain in
different perspectives -- but the multiplying quality of a Mona Lisa,
David, etc. does not appear to exist.  Media (and Art) seems to mainly
be unique to the creative qualities of an artist.

> Im a fan of vpip and am meaning to check out showinabox,
> looks great. What licenses are they released under? 

vPIP is LGPL which makes it open for commercial use -- similar to
Wikipedia's media submission requirement.  

Show-In-A-Box is Jay Dedman's initiative and he's probably the main
person developing it's focus.  I don't think they have a license
requirement (yet).  You should check with Jay.  As a coder, Charles
Iliya Krempeaux is more involved in Show-In-A-Box than me right now.

>There's usually
> the right for others to make some cash in specific ways using
> opensurce software, as long as they are bound to other conditions, so
> Im interested in how your attitude to that stuff compares to the
> wikipedia photo issue.

My view is that freedom is predominantly individual -- a real person
not an abstraction.  Which means the lack of restrictions on the
ability of a person to create and make a livelihood out of their
creative capabilities.  It's fine for an organization to recommend a
person give up the ability to negotiate commercial compensation.  I
disagree with requirements that compels people to do that.

  -- Enric

> 
> For me the best balance of this freedom issue is that other have the
> right to use work in a variety of ways, some of which may be
> commercial, just so long as the original creator still has some other
> ways to profit from the work if thats what they desire. Its not
> perfect, but at least this stuff is more honest than all the entities
> we've seen that try to get round this issue by pretending they are
> non-commercial, when they clearly arent. Somewhere on the wikipedia
> pages about thsi stuff, the even mention that being non-profit does
> not always equate to being able to rely on being considered
> non-commercial, from a legal point of view. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric"  wrote:
> >
> > OK, I see your point.  And I'll backup and say that I don't agree with
> > an organization requiring a creator to give up their right to
> > negotiate commercial compensation for their work.
> > 
> >   -- Enric
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think wikipedia is run by a non-profit foundation, but there
is also
> > > a commercial arm called Wikia.
> > > 
> > > Here is a page that explains wikipedia's policy on this stuff in
more
> > > detail:
> > > 
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content
> > > 
> > > So as other indicated, it boils down to their feeling that
> > > non-commercial restrictions make stuff not free enough to fulfil
> > > wikipedia's mission.
> > > 
> > > Im not sure about the whole contradiction thing, because those 2
> > > policies are related to quite different aims. It isnt that
content of
> > > wikipedia itself should not be original content (eg your own words),
> > > but that it should not be original research, should be
verifiable. We
> > > can clearly have a nice debate about the pro's and cons of these
> > > particualr wikipedia policies, eg the sorts of sources they
accept was
> > > a particular annoyance to many, but I dont quite understand how it
> > > relates to the licensing issue. Because if I wasnt useless and I
> > > actually wrote some words about something on wikipedia, those words
> > > wou

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement

[Enric]

OK, I see your point.  And I'll backup and say that I don't agree with
an organization requiring a creator to give up their right to
negotiate commercial compensation for their work.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think wikipedia is run by a non-profit foundation, but there is also
> a commercial arm called Wikia.
> 
> Here is a page that explains wikipedia's policy on this stuff in more
> detail:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content
> 
> So as other indicated, it boils down to their feeling that
> non-commercial restrictions make stuff not free enough to fulfil
> wikipedia's mission.
> 
> Im not sure about the whole contradiction thing, because those 2
> policies are related to quite different aims. It isnt that content of
> wikipedia itself should not be original content (eg your own words),
> but that it should not be original research, should be verifiable. We
> can clearly have a nice debate about the pro's and cons of these
> particualr wikipedia policies, eg the sorts of sources they accept was
> a particular annoyance to many, but I dont quite understand how it
> relates to the licensing issue. Because if I wasnt useless and I
> actually wrote some words about something on wikipedia, those words
> would be my own and Id be giving wikipedia the right to use them under
> a certain kind of free license, just as you are being asked to do with
> a photograph. Both the words and the photograph are original in the
> sense that we create them, and they dont want to rely on fair use to
> let others use them, but make sure we are giving them freely. Wheras
> the whole 'no original research' etc stuff is more about what the
> words actually say and the photo actually shows. Me drawing a picture
> of Lily Tomlin and submitting it to that article might be the
> equivalent of people adding their own original research to an article,
> Im not sure, and in definately not sure how it relates to the
> licensing issue.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "andrew michael baron"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Wikipedia is a business. 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent via CrackBerry
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Enric" 
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:17 
> > To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media
> contribution requirement
> > 
> > 
> > I understand the concept of "Free as in Freedom" (I read the book and
> >  have read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".) The contradiction I see is
> >  in disallowing original source contribution to Wikipedia articles
> >  while allowing commercial usage of original source material in
> >  Wikipedia without compensation.
> >  
> >  -- Enric
> >  
> >  --- In videoblogging@ <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> >   wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hey Enric,
> >  > 
> >  > On 7/14/07, Enric  wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > [...]
> >  > 
> >  > > Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed
> >  > > media work?
> >  > 
> >  > This reason has to do with some of the philosophy (or whatever you
> >  > want to call it) behind Wikipedia.
> >  > 
> >  > When they talk about Wikipedia being a Free encyclopedia...
they are
> >  > talking about "Freedom". (Not free as in gratis. Or free of
charge.)
> >  > 
> >  > Basically... long story short... the NC part of a CC license
makes it
> >  > non-Free (as in Freedom). Which is why they don't accept NC stuff.
> >  > 
> >  > (I can explain in more detail if you'd like.)
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > See ya
> >  > 
> >  > -- 
> >  > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.
> <http://ChangeLog.ca/> ca/>
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > All the Vlogging News on One Page
> >  > http://vlograzor. <http://vlograzor.com/> com/
> >  >
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement

[Enric]

I understand the concept of "Free as in Freedom" (I read the book and
have read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".)  The contradiction I see is
in disallowing original source contribution to Wikipedia articles
while allowing commercial usage of original source material in
Wikipedia without compensation.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Enric,
> 
> On 7/14/07, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed
> >  media work?
> 
> This reason has to do with some of the philosophy (or whatever you
> want to call it) behind Wikipedia.
> 
> When they talk about Wikipedia being a Free encyclopedia... they are
> talking about "Freedom".  (Not free as in gratis.  Or free of charge.)
> 
> Basically... long story short... the NC part of a CC license makes it
> non-Free (as in Freedom).  Which is why they don't accept NC stuff.
> 
> (I can explain in more detail if you'd like.)
> 
> 
> See ya
> 
> -- 
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
> 
> 
>   All the Vlogging News on One Page
>  http://vlograzor.com/
>

[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement

[Enric]

Just seems a contradiction to me that Wikipedia doesn't allow
contributions from original sources as in the "Vlog" article,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog

Where community entries were taken out.

But then they want to allow profit from original sources.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I've been asked to do the same thing on a few photos which I've done.
> 
>  The reason is anyone can take wikipedia and use it commercially.
> 
>  For example, a lot of http://www.answers.com is wikipedia with ads.
> 
>  But I think the original purpose was to get wikipedia  more widely
> distributed to people
> who don't have internet access (so articles could be put in a book, on a
> CD-ROM, etc).
> 
>  I can't find details with a quick search.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve Rhodes
> 
> http://flickr.com/photos/ari/  photos
> 
> http://ari.typepad.com
> 
> http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs
> 
> http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat   interesting articles & sites
> 
> http://twitter.com/tigerbeat
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement

[Enric]

I got a flickrmail asking if a photo I took of Lily Tomlin,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cirne/140992347

could be used in her Wikipedia article,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Tomlin

and if so, then to put a CC license of only Attribution on it.  Now
this seemed strange to me because that photo (and most of mine) are
already licensed as CC Attribution+Share-Alike+Non-Commercial. 
Wikipedia is non-profit, so why would this license be a problem.  But
then when I checked the submission requirements,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Replace_this_image_female.svg

it states:

"If you hold the copyright to an image (e.g. you photographed or drew
it yourself) and would like Wikipedia to be able to use it, you will
need to release it under a free license, such as the GNU Free
Documentation License or the Creative Commons Attribution or
Attribution/Share-alike licenses (versions 2.5 and earlier), which
allow everyone to use, alter, and redistribute your work for any
purpose, including commercial use.

Do not use this form for images found somewhere on the Internet or
created by someone else."

Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed
media work?  

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Re: Help: Delete pics off Xacti from Mac?

[Enric]

Yes, Tony Katz told me about this problem.  Deleting the files off the
Xacti drive when connected to a computer does not delete them --
they're still there (I think invisible.)  You should only copy the
files to your computer.  Then delete them from the menu in XActi. 
This may apply only to the earlier versions of XActi, I have the C40.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
> As some of you might have read, I switched to a Mac a couple weeks
> back. First off, and sorry Heath, but... I Love the Mac!
> 
> When I have the Xacti hooked to the Mac and I delete the pictures,
> they go poof, gone. 
> But did they?
> When I look at that Xacti through the Mac to the SD card in the Xacti,
> it is empty. But when I use the camera, all the video is still there.
> How do I delete (real delete, erase, gone from the memory card, poof,
> no more, gonzo.)videos on my Xacti USB camera, through the Mac?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> http://vlog.mikemoon.net
>

[videoblogging] vPIP 1.10 released and Vlogsplosion!

[Enric]

This release of vPIP is available from:

http://vpip.org/

and from the Show In A Box download area for integration with Wordpress:

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/

The major feature of this release of vPIP are the Vlogsplosion
capabilities for Wordpress.  Vlogsplosion originates from Rudy's
custom Wordpress theme capabilities at Galacticast that he published
as UFOsplode:

http://tinyurl.com/rzcq2

This became very popular which Michael Verdi implemented under the
name of Vlogsplosion on many sites:  RyanIsHungry, Swajana,
AmandaAcrossAmerica, etc.  But it was still a custom implementation
that had to be hand coded on each site.  So, Jay Dedman asked me and
Michael to get together to create a modular version that could be
relatively easily implemented by anyone who understood Wordpress. 
This became the first feature of the Show In A box suite of vlogging
tools:

http://showinabox.tv/  

The parts of Vlogsplosion I implemented in vPIP is the custom
enclosures as text boxes entries below where you write your post (see
http://tinyurl.com/33ylff ) and the ability to create unique feeds
(see http://tinyurl.com/2quopf ).  Look at the Vlosplosion
documentation on how these features work:

http://tinyurl.com/2pyolh
 or
http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion

There are also significant changes in vPIP that apply to all
platforms, not just in Wordpress:
   o ThickBox works now on IE6 & Safari
   o 640x520 flash player that scales down to any smaller size.
   o Flash viewer, cirneViewer*.swf, controls automatically resize to
vlog dimension specified in vPIP.
   o Only the video size needs to be set, the control size is added on.

And the main part of the documentation has moved to a wiki:

http://wiki.vpip.org

Since there are bound to be errors and things I don't have time to
cover in detail, please contribute to the wiki if you see something to
add/change.  The wiki uses MediaWiki, which I've exteneded to support
anchor tags () and image tags (). If you have
questions on how to do this, let me know, and I'll document that.

Finally, there's a google group for vPIP:

http://groups.google.com/group/vpip

Please join there to ask questions, provide answers, request features
and get announcements on vPIP.

;),

Enric
-===-
http://vpip.org


 

[videoblogging] Re: Video/Film summer camp

[Enric]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Enric wrote:
> 
> > A friend is looking for a video/film summer camp/workshop in
> >  California for teens that his daughter can attend. Anyone know of any
> >  good ones?
> >
> >  -- Enric
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> Hey Enric,
> 
> I don't know anything about these folks, but I had noticed their 
> website sometime back
> 
> http://www.dvcamps.com/
> 
> Apparently they have some here in Ojai as well as Santa Barbara and LA.
> 
> Markus
> 
> 
> --
> http://tools.ourmedia.org/blog
> http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy
> http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


Thanks!  It may be a bit too high end for her -- she's 15.  But, I'll
pass the info. along.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Video/Film summer camp

[Enric]

A friend is looking for a video/film summer camp/workshop  in
California for teens that his daughter can attend.  Anyone know of any
good ones?

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Viddler text & video commenting

[Enric]

Viddler has probably been mentioned here before, but I think it's very
interesting how they've implemented text and video commenting in the
video playback.  Here's some samples I like:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/ijustine/videos/117/
http://www.viddler.com/explore/ijustine/videos/118/
http://www.viddler.com/explore/plasq/videos/2/

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

[videoblogging] Vlogs Sponsorship Needs

[Enric]

I'm looking to work on the next version of PledgeDrive from the one
Devlon created for Have Money Will Vlog,
http://www.havemoneywillvlog.com/.  This will be part of the
ShowInABox system,

http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/about/

Since this is something you, videobloggers, would be using, I'd like
to describe the current idea for PledgeDrive and ask for comment and
recommendations:

Idea


What is firmed up is that it will be a Wordpress widget that sits in
the sidebar with a donate/subscribe image/icon.  

How I see the rest working is:  

Clicking the icon will bring up a page for filling in single payment
or subscription.  If single payment, then levels of payment or other
entered amount is given.  

If subscription, then subscription levels or other entered amount is
provided.  Then, the  period of payment (such bi-monthly, monthly,
bi-yearly, yearly, etc.) is chosen.  

Proceeding goes to paypal where the payment is finalized and returns
one back to the vlog.

If a target amount is setup, then a meter can appear showing how close
the donations/subscriptions are to fulfilling the target value.  And a
report of donors with their donated amount can be displayed to the
blog admin(s).

Examples


Jay has provided me several examples of funding on the web:

  Robert Greenwald's BraveNew Films:
https://secure.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/bnf/images/donate.jsp
  Democracy TV:
https://www.participatoryculture.org/subscribe/
  Kiva, loans that change lives
http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businesses&action=about&id=9582
  SFT Olympics:
https://secure.ga4.org/01/sftolympics

I've looked at Galacticast sponsorthip,

http://www.galacticast.com/support/sponsor/

which is amount with description to name.  This is submitted to your
paypal page.

For rocketboom, 

http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship/

The option is to contact Rocketboom and detailed information and
examples are provided of the benefits of sponsorship.

And blip.tv is also working on a sponsorship model based on the
"duckies" purchase system by Ze Frank.

Feedback
-
What stands out for me on the net video sponsorship system is that
they're very simple -- click an amount and give name and go to paypal
or just send an email enquiry.  So the clarity and simplicity of the
payment/sponsorship system appears to be important.  Also the ability
to stylize the layout through CSS, choose images and descriptions for
pyament choices.  

What recommendations for the PledgeDrive design do you have that make
sense for videoblogging?  This may be from sponsoring a vlogging
activity like a a bike trip through the U.S., subscribing to a weekly
drama, comedy, etc. show, funding a full length movie and so forth. 
So PledgeDrive would need to be flexible for a wide range of projects
(some not yet thought of.)

Also, since this involves money, should there be a standard disclaimer
form included?

Thanks,

Enric

[videoblogging] Re: H.264 Also Dominating the iPhone

[Enric]

Michael Verdi is listed, but I think he has a conflicting event he'll
be at and won't be at Web Video Summit.

I'll be on the THURSDAY, JUNE 28 session "E9: Your Web Presence:
Designing Great Pages for Video" from 2:00PM - 2:50PM with Eddie
Codel, Producer, Geek TV; Jon Phillips, COMMUNITY and BUSINESS
DEVELOPER, CREATIVE COMMONS; and Aza Raskin, President, Humanized.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Burstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Folks
> 
> The YouTube/Apple MPEG .264 is big news, and that will only be
> reinforced on June 29 when the iPhone comes out. I've confirmed with
>  it's all designed around H.264. I'm doing a session
> in the paid part of Web Video Summit on that on June 28 - not yet on
> the web site. But I don't want to use this list to push a paid event. 
> 
> Much of WVS in San Jose is free, however, and I'd like to
> introduce it here. Many folks you know are in the free sessions (code
> DSL07) including Jen Gouvea, Documentarian, Echo Chamber
> 
> PANELIST: Oscar Grimm, Producer, Freshtopia
> 
> PANELIST: Justin Kan, Lifecaster, Justin.tv
> 
> Moderator: Graham Leggat, Executive Director, San Francisco Film Society
> 
> PANELIST: Schlomo Rabinowitz, Producer, Echoplex Park
> 
> PANELIST: Irina Slutsky, Producer, Podtech
> 
> PANELIST: Michael Verdi, Videoblogger, Freevlog 
> 
> -- 
> 
> If no one objects, I'd like to post information on the list about the
> free parts of the show, and also how Vlogger reporters and others can
> get in to the whole thing gratis. But I'm stopping this note here, to
> make sure I'm not overstepping the bounds of what's appropriate for
> this list. 
> 
> If people think it's wrong to promote the free parts of the event,
> contact me on or off-list and I won't do it. If no one objects, I'll
> modestly post some details later.
> 
> Dave Burstein
> Editor, DSL Prime
> Conference Chair,
> http://www.webvideosummit.com/conference/sessionsbyday.php
>

[videoblogging] YouTube to have H.264 versions

[Enric]

>From iLounge, http://tinyurl.com/2fq3t7 :

=
...YouTube will soon be encoding videos in the H.264
streaming-efficient compression format preferred by Apple TV, and that
all new videos submitted to YouTube as of the mid-June launch of the
AppleTV update will be playable by the device. From then until fall,
YouTube will be encoding its entire back-catalog in H.264 format,
adding videos in chunks until everything is accessible to Apple TV
users. Direct links and the on-screen keyboard-based search engine
mentioned in our previous update will bring you to current and old
videos alike
=

If available to all, easier to mash-up.

  -- Enric

[videoblogging] Videoblogging Flashmeetings

[Enric]

I'm going to stop for the time being booking flashmeetings.  If
someone else who has a booking account wants to continue, feel free.

   Thanks,

Enric

[videoblogging] Saturday June 2nd, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

This Saturday, 6/2/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time
is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.

Go to this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/9ccc46-8544

For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com

[videoblogging] Tuesday May 29th/30th FlashMeeting

[Enric]

The Tuesday May 29th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST
USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 30th).

Enter through this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/8b3d44-8543

You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com

[videoblogging] Saturday May 26th, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

This Saturday, 5/26/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time
is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.

Go to this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/caa4a2-8542

For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com

[videoblogging] Re: Where are you staying for Pixelodeon

[Enric]

I was thinking of joining someone else who has a car they want to take
down since my auto has been around awhile.  But, I may go ahead and
drive down and back up.  It's a Honda Civic so at most it fits 4
people and that's a bit tight, preferably 3.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm looking to share a ride (as in I won't have a car but can split
driving
> and gas) to and from San Francisco and to share a room or other place to
> stay in LA.
> Thanks,
> Verdi
> 
> On 5/23/07, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   My buddy went to LA, last October and he told me most of the
strip is
> > a pit..I can't remember where they ended up staying but I know it
> > wasn't on the strip...
> >
> > Heath
> > http://batamngeek.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
,
> > "David Howell" 
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I was considering staying there as well but after reading what Gena
> > > just wrote, well, hmm. Maybe not.
> > >
> > > Sorry. I know it's L.A. and this is my Midwest thinking here but
> > $160
> > > a night for a dive of a hotel is just too much to pay.
> > >
> > > I still have my airline ticket for now. Dont have a room booked yet.
> > > Cant afford paying $400+ for 2 days in a hotel room. Getting bummed
> > > that chances are where I will be staying will be too far away to
> > make
> > > associating (the real reason I am going) with other vloggers
> > feasible.
> > >
> > > David
> > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
,
> > "Enric"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking of staying at the Days Inn Hollywood, 5410 Hollywood
> > > > Blvd., Hollywood, CA, 90027. Anyone else staying there? Or any
> > > > reason I shouldn't. Any tips appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > -- Enric
> > > > -==-
> > > > http://cirne.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://michaelverdi.com
> http://spinxpress.com
> http://freevlog.org
> Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[videoblogging] Where are you staying for Pixelodeon

[Enric]

I'm thinking of staying at the Days Inn Hollywood, 5410 Hollywood
Blvd.,  Hollywood, CA, 90027.  Anyone else staying there?  Or any
reason I shouldn't.  Any tips appreciated.

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

[videoblogging] Tuesday May 22nd/23rd FlashMeeting

[Enric]

The Tuesday May 22nd FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST
USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 23rd).

Enter through this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/82e866-8541

You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com

[videoblogging] Videobloggers press for Ruby on Rails Geek Session

[Enric]

If you're in the San Francisco area and would like to cover the Ruby 
on Rails GeekSession, they're accepting videobloggers for press 
credentials.  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to request press access.  
The description of the event is http://www.zaptix.com/group/
geeksessions/ruby_event:

==
GeekSessions is about two things: smart people and free beer. We 
start with a panel of experts on a hot topic and follow with an open 
bar reception, complete with catered food and everflowing libations.

Join us for our launch event on May 22: "Ruby on Rails: To Scale or 
Not to Scale."

Since hitting the ground two years ago, Ruby on Rails is sweeping the 
technology community by storm. However, critics note that Rails 
suffers from persistent problems with scalability, an issue that 
plagues the framework to this day.

Can Ruby surmount the scalability challenge? To set the record 
straight, we're inviting four luminaries from the Rails community to 
speak on their experiences and answer questions from the audience. 
Our speakers hail from Twitter, Joyent, Sun, and Pivotal Labs, San 
Francisco's fastest growing agile development studio.

Join us on May 22 from 6 to 9 PM at the elegant City Club in downtown 
San Francisco. Come for the panel, and stay for an informal catered 
reception (and open bar) to continue the discussion.
=

  -- Enric
  -==-
  http://cirne.com

[videoblogging] Tuesday May 15th/16th FlashMeeting

[Enric]

The Tuesday May 15th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST
USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 16th).

Enter through this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/956e07-8489

You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com

Note:  There will NOT be a Flashmeeting this Saturday since there are
no available meetings for the upcoming weekend.

[videoblogging] Saturday May 12th, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

This Saturday, 5/12/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time
is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.

Go to this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a6efec-8391

For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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[videoblogging] Re: Tuesday May 8th/9th FlashMeeting

[Enric]

Meeting in progress; come on by:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390

   ;),

Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Tuesday May 8th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST
> USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 9th).
> 
> Enter through this link:
> 
> http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390
> 
> You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
> flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging
FlashMeetings at:
> 
> http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> 
> 
> -- Enric
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>

[videoblogging] Tuesday May 8th/9th FlashMeeting

[Enric]

The Tuesday May 8th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST
USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 9th).

Enter through this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390

You may also check the FlashMeeting page at
flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page



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[videoblogging] Good and Bad RSS Syndication Practices

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Dave Winer linked to this on Twitter:

Todd Cochrane on good and bad re-syndication practices:

http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007014.html

text from blog entry by Todd Cochrane:
==


I have been asked by a number of people to list what I consider are
good and bad RSS syndication practices. I reserve the right to modify
this list as thoughts and ideas come in that I think are worthy of
adding to the list.

* Good things Media Sites do with Syndicated Content
  o Attribution with Hyper link back to Content Origin Point
  o Original RSS Feed clearly seen and linked to.
  o No other confusing RSS links are associated media listing
  o Audio and Video Media is not altered or trans-coded
  o Audio and Video Media is not cached direct link only
  o Publishing Author Name on Media Listing
  o Make Listing Opt In
  o Claim a Feed
  o Pay content producers a revenue share on site advertising.

 

* Bad things Media Sites do with Syndicated Content
  o Auto adding content versus asking to become listed!
  o Replace RSS feed with sites own.
  o Pre-Roll or Post Roll ads in the syndicated sites media
player!
  o Not allowing one to claim there own feed.
  o Not allowing one to opt out.
  o Not linking directly to the media file.
  o Not honoring Creative Commons License.
  o Add to Digg etc links that drive people away from original
content point.
  o Trans-coding media into a new format without permission.
==
  Many of these or all are the same as we've generated.

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[videoblogging] Re: Saturday May 5th, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

Happenin':


http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This Saturday, 5/5/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time
> is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.
> 
> Go to this link:
> 
> http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392
> 
> For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at:
> 
> http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> -- Enric
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>

[videoblogging] Re: Sources and your stories

[Enric]

  God point ;

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good point :)
> 
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdfVqNlEKFU
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric"  wrote:
> >
> > -==-==- http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRU6tQdyYqQ -==-==-
> >
>

[videoblogging] Re: Sources and your stories

[Enric]

-==-==- http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRU6tQdyYqQ -==-==-


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Short version: Think 'what actions we can take to make the article
> decent' rather than 'what actions can we take against pat' or you will
> probably continue to be frustrated by wikipedia, approaching its
> processes from the wrong angle methinks.
> 
> Long version:
> 
> Whats come out of it is lots of good advise, some of which was given
> to you on wikipedia before the issue was ever brought to this group.
> 
> These processes will go the right way for you more if you stop jumping
> the gun. Even the user review process is a process too far at this
> stage, from what Ive learnt so far. You've been advised to try that if
> user keeps editing things without explaining himself. But I think
> thats supposed to mean from now on, its already been shown that some
> wikipedians are agreeing with some of pdelongchamps historical edits,
>  he doesnt seem to have much problem explaining them in was that seem
> in tune with wikipedias aims.
> 
> So for me the earlier stages of dispute resolution are far more
> desirable, the first of which could be considering the possibility
> that the past will not repeat itself. If it does repeat itself, the
> proper ways to proceed are now known. The starting point now is
> dialogue on the articles talk page. When you are given advice about
> things surrounding obtaining concensus on the article, I assume that
> means people discussing it on the talk page. Forming a concensus on
> this list, for example, is irrelevent, in the same way an external
> group cant come here and tell us we've all got to wear chocolate
> underpants when posting to this group, because theres a concensus on
> this point elsewhere.
> 
> If that doesnt work, then can go on to steps involving 3rd parties
> trying to moderate the dispute, and if they fail and people go mad and
> abuse the wiki at any point, some of these stronger procedures can be
> considered.
> 
> If the history of edits was as bad as portrayed here, and it had been
> discussed a lot on the talk page, and 3rd party advice was sought and
> listened to, then the way these harsher processes panned out would of
> been different.
> 
> I found it very useful to look at other users who were up for ban
> discussion, the histories of other disputes, and indeed the user
> review thing you are now referring to. I look at the cases in question
> and the level of alleged abuse, and compare it to what we are dealing
> with here, to see if this case seems to fit. 
> 
> One piece of advice I see you were given before things exploded onto
> this list, was to keep a copy of the article the way you would like it
> on one of your user pages, with a view to 3rd parties then helping it
> to be improved to the extent where it couldnt fall foul of justifiable
> edits, then some time later merging it with the real article.
> 
> Its a shame that didnt happen. Its one of the reasons Im still posting
> here about such things, it makes me worry that the dispute is powered
> by some peoples alternative beliefs about what wikipedias policies
> should be, or a refusal to take on board legitimate reasons why your
> content may be deleted. If thats even partially true, dispute
> resolutions are unlikely to satisfy, spend energy on other wiki's with
> differing approaches as a constructive alternative to fighting an
> impossible battle?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser"
>  wrote:
> > Just and FYI... the vote isn't over on the banning issue... but at
> > this point it mine as well be... what has come out of it is there are
> > some other actions we can take against pat, a sort of user review
> > process... I'll be there if anyone wants to pursue it, but I'm so sick
> > of the whole thing I'm pretty much done with the whole issue for now.
> > 
> > -Mike
>

[videoblogging] Contributors on YouTube May Share Advertising Revenue

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"SAN FRANCISCO, May 4 — Some of the amateur video producers who put
clips on YouTube are turning pro.

YouTube, the video-sharing site purchased last year by Google, said on
Friday that it would begin placing ads alongside clips from some of
its most popular contributors and share revenue from those ads with them.

The program is small for now. Only 20 to 30 video producers, including
YouTube celebrities like Lonelygirl15, HappySlip and smosh, have been
invited to join"
- New York Times, http://tinyurl.com/yok7jl

Red Herring, http://tinyurl.com/2fukpw

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[videoblogging] Saturday May 5th, 2007 FlashMeeting

[Enric]

This Saturday, 5/5/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time
is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT.

Go to this link:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392

For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at:

http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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[videoblogging] Re: Request for user ban on Wikipedia "videoblogging" article

[Enric]

Now for something completely different

   ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Delongchamp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I know there's about zero interest left in this. (i feel the same way,
> i would have dropped it a long time ago if it weren't for my wiki
> account on the chopping block)
> 
> Just wanted to report that the Ban Request has been closed with
> results pasted below.  Thankfully, if anything good came out of this
> it's that there's some good discussions going on in the talk page and
> the article has gained a lot of sources.  I'd like to get a third
> party Admin to check out the article in a week or so and give us some
> tips & comments.  Hopefully, someone'll throw in some book citations.
> Good weekend and let's hope for a calmer Monday.
> 
> Community sanction discussion
> 
> "Well, what I see there, in for example this edit[1], is the example
> of dictionary definitions and a link farm. I'm sure you were trying to
> help, but that edit really *would* need a lot of improvement.
> Wikipedia is not[2] the dictionary, though we do have a sister
> project, Wiktionary,[3] which you might wish to look at if you want to
> write dictionary definitions. Also, please note that, to be quite
> frank, I couldn't care less who any of you are, up to and including if
> you invented the Internet. We write from reliable sources,[4] never
> our own knowledge, thoughts, or experience[5], so it really doesn't
> matter a bit who an editor is. If Linus Torvalds[6] came along to edit
> the Linux[7] article, he'd *still* be expected to source. (And deal
> with me asking about a few bugfixes. But that's a different story.)
> From what I can see, Pdelongchamp has been doing a great job keeping
> laundry lists[8], dictionary definitions[9], material "sourced" to
> blogs, and such things out of the article. You'd probably not do badly
> to *listen to him*, and work at improving the article. Most of the
> material I can see that Pdelongchamp is removing really isn't
> acceptable."
> - Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
> 
> [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blog&diff=127290390&oldid=127280521
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary
> [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RS
> [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOR
> [6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
> [7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
> [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LAUNDRY
> [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DICDEF
> 
> "*Comments after looking at the evidence*
> Being sensitive to your concerns I have to ask you guys from
> groups.yahoo.com/vlogging - have you read policy documents before
> coming to Community sanction noticeboard? First off if members of the
> yahoo group are working to support each other this is a breach of
> Wikipedia:Sock puppetry:Meatpuppets[1] and a serious one - Single
> purpose accounts[2] are not encouraged. Second although Pdelongchamp
> didn't mention it there is a possible Conflict of interest[3] problem
> here - authors or those associated with them should not be adding
> their books to wikipedia - this site is not for self promotion.
> I haven't seen one reason to block Pdelongchamp. The diff I see
> here[4] is an example of proper editing practice - removal of original
> research[5]. The only issue I could have with Pdelongchamp is their
> slight failure to assume good faith[6] but this is not a blocking
> offence. I do think Pdelongchamp deleted too many external links from
> this version [7] - I would have deleted 80% of them and kept "Citizens
> do media for themselves, BBC Technology" "TV Stardom on $20 a Day, New
> York Times" 'Vlogger (noun): Blogger With Video Camera, The Wallstreet
> Journal" & "The next big thing: vlogging, Times Online, UK" - but only
> if they were worked into the article. As far as I can see there is no
> malicous intent from, no wrong doing by and no need for sanction
> against Pdelongchamp. However I do think there should have been more
> of a compromise on both sides. Mmeiser was trying to improve the
> article, he was going about it wrong but the edits seem to be good
> faith
> Mmeiser & the vloggers, you should have requested comment[8] in order
> to build a consensus[9] on the talk page or in the very least Mmeiser
> should have taken User:Adrian_M._H[10]. advice and created temporary
> page[11] in their userspace. User:Adrian_M._H[10]. has made a trojan
> effort to mediate between Pdelongchamp and Mmeiser I recommend that
> this block request be withdrawn and Adrian_M._H's advice taken
> forthwith. As an uninvolved party I would be happy to host a temp
> rewrite page in my userspace if this is of assitance to both sides"
> -Cailil talk 01:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Meatpuppets
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Single_purpose_account
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_o