Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Meiser
Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)

The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.

When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.

Some people jokingly say great people thing alike

It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so long
as it happens.

For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing it
with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what I'd
described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, would
be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a piece
of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. Come
to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
vipodder for as many as six months prior.

About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.

It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our ideas
on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.

In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some connection
between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
asthetic or theme.

Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.

I will always think of it as inevitability myself.

If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to fast
bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount of
mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)

I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
what's called social capital.

Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
things.

If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we call
the free market system can function.

It's can be as simple as a friend asking you heh, I need to get the
oil changed on my car you know anyone?... that they know you and you
might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the whole 6
degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you can
likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.

This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and LisaNova.

It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
the same company, or mechanic or whatever.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A) Not even 1%

 B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D

 Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered that LisaNova
 (real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was rejected
 until recently.  Still don't know if my reminder had any influence at all on
 her hiring, but you know what they say about the butterfly's movements...you
 know, the Butterfly Effect?  Maybe my little wingflapping was just the extra
 nudge the cast of MadTV needed to hear in order to make a decision...

 Seriously, I'm not in the belief that my part in this truly made any
 difference.  Still, you never know who's discussing you, and who they're
 discussing you with...

 Harold

 On 2/17/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
A) Did you get your 10%? :D
 
  B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Harold Johnson
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
  found
   this out and I'm still kind of spinning on 

[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Andy Carvin
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser 
 
 I've been meaning to bug Andy Carvin about this as he's working with
 NPR on their new media strategy... or as I like to put it... on
 finding new ways to interact with the people formerly known as the
 audience.  Hopefully Andy's listening now.
 

You rang? :-)

 Here's a little example...
 
 My friend got be hooked on Cartalk which is always on on Saturday and
 Sunday mornings on NPR... I don't know why... it doesn't matter why...
 and I haven't owned a car for over 10 years... the point is Cartalk hs
 a very NICHE market... it's to guys with thick boston accents talking
 about car problem solving for an hour a week.  That's one hour a week,
 and you have to catch it on a radio at 10am on Saturday or Sunday.
 
 It occurs to me... weekly ritual aside... that not only would I MUCH
 rather enjoy CarTalk via podcast ANYTIME I liked but that they would
 have an inifinitely greater opportunity to reach this tiny niche
 market segment of listeners if they made themselves accessible via
 podcast on the web.
 
 Not only would their listners be able to listen to them anytime and
 anywhere... but they'd be more accessible... more available to a whole
 world audience... like say an American Expat in Tokyo... or China,
 Africa or anywhere in the world.  They could reach this tiny sliver of
 audience anywhere that audience is around the globe.

Of all the possible things I'm thinking of doing at NPR, that
particular request might just be the hardest to pull off. Not because
it's technically difficult - it isn't - but because of a larger
resistance within the entire public radio system to podcast full
programs. Why? Because that would undermine the individual radio
stations that rely on shows like Car Talk to create an audience for
themselves. And  NPR is a membership org of stations, with stations
represented on our board. So you can say Long Tail til your pass out
from exhaustion, but it's not going to change these cultural and
political challenges within pubradio overnight.

This was a major topic at the social media gathering I hosted this
week, because many of them, being outside the pubradio system, see
podcasting all of our intact shows as a no-brainer, whereas within
public radio it's generally a taboo. Thing are slowly changing - take
Fresh Air, for example, which now has its own podcast. But these
things take a lot of negotiating, particularly when a show like
CarTalk isn't produced by NPR - we merely distribute it.

So as I help roll out social media projects in the coming months, I
wouldn't hold your breath for a Car Talk podcast. Community features
on our website? I certainly hope so. But the podcast battle is one
that's above my pay grade -andy





[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread Darren Winkler Darren Scott
Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another 
attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big 
profile bloggers in this group?
I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this 
YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just 
to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts 
about her here?
There are people on the net doing real work and I can tell that 
LisaNova is another pre-made wet dream for freaky old men and 
addolecent boys and nothing more.
I'll take Ask A Ninja anytine over this boring tripe!



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser groups-yahoo-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some people might call it destiny or pre-destiny or karma... but I
 call it syncronicity... or is it the singularity. :)
 
 The point is there's a certain sort of inevitability... like a chain
 reaction when a liquid meats critical mass.
 
 When youg get a whole munch of molecules moving really fast and
 they're REALLY well connecteded things just start to happen.
 
 Some people jokingly say great people thing alike
 
 It doesn't really matter who was the first to think of it just so 
long
 as it happens.
 
 For example the aha moment for mee in this space was when I left
 comments regarding an idea I had for a piece of software that
 aggregated video via RSS on Chuck Olsen's blog. I'd been discussing 
it
 with my closed circle of friends for months before I left that
 comment. Two weeks later Fireant came out and it was exactly what 
I'd
 described. Certainly some other key members of fireant were also
 participating in that discussion, but was fireant the result of my
 comment outlining how the software would work?  Absolutely not, 
would
 be silly to think it. It takes more than two weeks to develop a 
piece
 of software most obviously... they'd already been working on it. 
Come
 to find out Josh Kinberg had been working on a protype he called
 vipodder for as many as six months prior.
 
 About that same time Kenyatta created an HTMl mockup that would
 inspire Peter Van DIjck to create mefeedia.
 
 It's simply a sort of synchronicity.  In cyberspace we wear our 
ideas
 on our sleave... our IDEAS not our faces are our face in cyberspace.
 Nooone knows this better then bloggers. Threfore it is inevitable in
 this primordial stew of ideas that like ideas... or people with like
 ideas like molecules will bump into oneanother.
 
 In other words it matters not wether LisaNova found her way to MadTV
 do to your offhand comment ... heh, maybe it caused them to take a
 second look at her... or wether it had no effect whatsoever and your
 brilliant sub-conscious powers of perception percieved some 
connection
 between what LisaNova was doing on Youtube and what MadTV does.
 Indeed there is some cross-polenation there right?  Some parrellel
 asthetic or theme.
 
 Anyway, it's always, always, always a beautifull thing.
 
 I will always think of it as inevitability myself.
 
 If something was meant to happen it will happen in this space. The
 grownd is too fertile for ideas not to grow into tangible realities,
 the people and ideas to well connected... the molecules moving to 
fast
 bouncing of one another like pinballs until they finally start
 sticking to oneanother  ... and don't get me started on the amount 
of
 mixed metaphors... one of them has to make sense. :)
 
 I truely believe what it all comes down to is a critical mass of
 what's called social capital.
 
 Social capital the foundation of the social economy. It is trust,
 visibility, connectivity, mobility, shared history and so many other
 things.
 
 If you look at the old chart Maslow's Hierarchy of needs social
 capital comes right after the basic necessities.  Food, Shelter,
 Water, Cothing... security... then comes the social needs...  it is
 only on top of these social needs that the everyday economics we 
call
 the free market system can function.
 
 It's can be as simple as a friend asking you heh, I need to get the
 oil changed on my car you know anyone?... that they know you and 
you
 might now a mechanic... and that you're connected enough via IM or
 phone... or mobile enough to ask the question in person... the 
whole 6
 degrees of seperation thing... the connectivity... means that you 
can
 likely refer them to a good mechanic and they know you well enough
 they can trust that this mechanic is a good one.
 
 This is pretty much exactly the sort of thing with you Harold and 
LisaNova.
 
 It's not unfathomable that a person would get multiple referrals to
 the same company, or mechanic or whatever.
 
 -Mike
 mefeedia.com
 mmeiser.com/blog
 
 On 2/19/07, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A) Not even 1%
 
  B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D
 
  Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered 
that LisaNova
  (real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've only
heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.

I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to Bring Love
Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim Henson and
almost died with Soupy Sales.

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
http://hatfactory.net
http://evilvlog.com


On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
 attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
 profile bloggers in this group?
 I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
 YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
 to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
 I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
 about her here?




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-19 Thread bestdamntechshow
LisaNova tried out for MadTV some time ago and didn't get the nod.  
She has a bunch of subscribers on her YouTube channel, went back to
MadTV and they hired her.Congrats to her, but other than that,
this isn't a huge story.  

Not to sound like a hater, but this might be a bigger story if it was
say...SNL who hired someone from YouTube (which may happen, you never
know).

Bottom line is talent is talent.  A little bit of cross-over news for
MadTV (in the YT world) doesn't hurt either.

_drew
www.scriggity.com
www.bestdamntech.com
www.pluggd.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know if there is some conspiracy afoot, but personally, I've
only
 heard of her in articles.  I've never seen her stuff.
 
 I have always believed that there is a nationwide conspiracy to
Bring Love
 Back To The Children, though, which I believe started with Jim
Henson and
 almost died with Soupy Sales.
 
 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
 http://hatfactory.net
 http://evilvlog.com
 
 
 On 2/19/07, Darren Winkler Darren Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Has it occured to anyone else that this seems like just another
  attempt by the LisaNova machine to get more exposure by using the big
  profile bloggers in this group?
  I am not a conspiracy person at all but why are we talking about this
  YouTuber? Like most people who have seen her, i went to her page just
  to see what all the hype was about and there is NOTHING there!
  I just find it odd that all of a sudden there is a bunch of posts
  about her here?
 
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Cammack
Here's the video... she neglected to mention you by name. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWIY_C7XUw

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 A) Did you get your 10%? :D
 
 B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
 harold.johnson@ wrote:
 
  So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
 found
  this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it.  I know someone
 (well, just
  barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV.  So about two
 weeks
  ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this LisaNova, a
  self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that community.
  This
  acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
 describe her
  talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc.  Today I find that
  LisaNova has now been cast on Mad TV.  Coincidence?
  
  Harold
  
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread groups-yahoo-com
Very cool.

Is anyone keeping track of vloggers and podcasters crossing over to
broadcast radio or TV?

I'm going to start a before they were famous or cross-overs guide
on mefeedia.

So far I just have Brookers, and LisaNova but I'm trying to think of any others.

Dawn and Drew?

Madge Winestien?

I'd like to put Ask A Ninja on that list one day.

Aha, the Lonely Island Guys who are now on Saturday Night Live.

Anyone else?

Oh, and Amanda Cogdon


What about reverse-crossover?

Maybe we can come up with a list of mainstream personalities that have
now crossed over into podcasting.  I know NPR has a bunch. The most
recent one that comes to mind are the Cartalk guys, and there's the
Jim Lehrer podcast, but I need something more substantial then just
NPR personalities much as i love them

Oh! Heh! The digg guys!  I forgot about them. Leo Laporte too... Maybe
Adam Curry. He's a true hybrid. A lot of people from G4/TechTV jumped
ship and landed in this new media world. Timing as they say is
everything.

I guess the question is...

Who are your favorite videoblogging celebrities?

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's the video... she neglected to mention you by name. :D

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWIY_C7XUw

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  A) Did you get your 10%? :D
 
  B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
  harold.johnson@ wrote:
  
   So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
  found
   this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it.  I know someone
  (well, just
   barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV.  So about two
  weeks
   ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this LisaNova, a
   self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that community.
   This
   acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
  describe her
   talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc.  Today I find that
   LisaNova has now been cast on Mad TV.  Coincidence?
  
   Harold
  
  
   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  
 





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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Im not keeping track deliberately but off the top of my head:

KarmaBanque got a deal with Al Jazeera English to make some videos for
broadcast on TV.

Clive James who is an Australian famous in Britain for many years in
the mainstream media, now does stuff online, though I dont know if his
videos would meet the definition of videoblogging.

Years ago a famous UK TV presenter called Keith Chegwin, fairly down
on his luck, broadcast himself live via streaming net video for many
hours every day. I believe he was infamously naked once.

A famous UK soap star had to leave the program after it was revealed
that he had been exposing himself on a web cam he had in his dressing
room, maybe that doesnt count :D

Here in the UK im finding it pretty hard to tell if there are really
many web celebrities here. If I go to the uk itunes podcast directory
then its dominated by BBC  other mainstream media people. Im probably
forgetting some really obvious example but no UK web celeb is
springing to mind right now. In the UK the web has been used to launch
some very sucessful (so far) musical careers, but I cant think what
'personalities' its brought into our mainstream yet. Fameseekers here
are currently stil more likely to try their luck in Big Brother
auditions! Our famous homegrown youtuber is that great really old
bloke, he has got some media attention but didnt even allow interviews
until recently, he was the only person who'd ever filmed himself, so
he isnt a crossover so far.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Very cool.
 
 Is anyone keeping track of vloggers and podcasters crossing over to
 broadcast radio or TV?
 
 I'm going to start a before they were famous or cross-overs guide
 on mefeedia.
 
 So far I just have Brookers, and LisaNova but I'm trying to think of
any others.
 
 Dawn and Drew?
 
 Madge Winestien?
 
 I'd like to put Ask A Ninja on that list one day.
 
 Aha, the Lonely Island Guys who are now on Saturday Night Live.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 Oh, and Amanda Cogdon
 
 
 What about reverse-crossover?
 
 Maybe we can come up with a list of mainstream personalities that have
 now crossed over into podcasting.  I know NPR has a bunch. The most
 recent one that comes to mind are the Cartalk guys, and there's the
 Jim Lehrer podcast, but I need something more substantial then just
 NPR personalities much as i love them
 
 Oh! Heh! The digg guys!  I forgot about them. Leo Laporte too... Maybe
 Adam Curry. He's a true hybrid. A lot of people from G4/TechTV jumped
 ship and landed in this new media world. Timing as they say is
 everything.
 
 I guess the question is...
 
 Who are your favorite videoblogging celebrities?
 
 -Mike
 mefeedia.com
 mmeiser.com/blog
 
 On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's the video... she neglected to mention you by name. :D
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWIY_C7XUw
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@
  wrote:
  
   A) Did you get your 10%? :D
  
   B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
   harold.johnson@ wrote:
   
So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause
I just
   found
this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it.  I know someone
   (well, just
barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV.  So
about two
   weeks
ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this
LisaNova, a
self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that
community.
This
acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
   describe her
talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc.  Today I
find that
LisaNova has now been cast on Mad TV.  Coincidence?
   
Harold
   
   
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 





[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread Steve Watkins
And, at least from an international point of view, Im perhaps more
interested in those who 'make it' and dont cross-over.

If Ask a Ninja signed some TV deal, what good is that to me in the UK?
That means at best I can watch their stuff months later if its picked
up by a uk tv network?

Wheras Ask A Ninja got that nice lucrative advertising deal didnt
they, and as far as I know this means I can still watch them wherever
I am (even if i hate ads, at least I have the option).

Its funny how rarely I see the international dimensions of net video
being discussed in the mainstream  especially business press. They
throw all these huge numbers around concerning ad revenue, but I dont
see all that much talk about the implications of having global
audiences as well as relatively localised ones. Sometimes I wonder why
the large companies that have global products  brands, dont see more
in these opportunities, although of course I could be overstating
things as I dont know what %age of a typical popular USA vlogs
audience is in the USA.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im not keeping track deliberately but off the top of my head:
 
 KarmaBanque got a deal with Al Jazeera English to make some videos for
 broadcast on TV.
 
 Clive James who is an Australian famous in Britain for many years in
 the mainstream media, now does stuff online, though I dont know if his
 videos would meet the definition of videoblogging.
 
 Years ago a famous UK TV presenter called Keith Chegwin, fairly down
 on his luck, broadcast himself live via streaming net video for many
 hours every day. I believe he was infamously naked once.
 
 A famous UK soap star had to leave the program after it was revealed
 that he had been exposing himself on a web cam he had in his dressing
 room, maybe that doesnt count :D
 
 Here in the UK im finding it pretty hard to tell if there are really
 many web celebrities here. If I go to the uk itunes podcast directory
 then its dominated by BBC  other mainstream media people. Im probably
 forgetting some really obvious example but no UK web celeb is
 springing to mind right now. In the UK the web has been used to launch
 some very sucessful (so far) musical careers, but I cant think what
 'personalities' its brought into our mainstream yet. Fameseekers here
 are currently stil more likely to try their luck in Big Brother
 auditions! Our famous homegrown youtuber is that great really old
 bloke, he has got some media attention but didnt even allow interviews
 until recently, he was the only person who'd ever filmed himself, so
 he isnt a crossover so far.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, groups-yahoo-com@ wrote:
 
  Very cool.
  
  Is anyone keeping track of vloggers and podcasters crossing over to
  broadcast radio or TV?
  
  I'm going to start a before they were famous or cross-overs guide
  on mefeedia.
  
  So far I just have Brookers, and LisaNova but I'm trying to think of
 any others.
  
  Dawn and Drew?
  
  Madge Winestien?
  
  I'd like to put Ask A Ninja on that list one day.
  
  Aha, the Lonely Island Guys who are now on Saturday Night Live.
  
  Anyone else?
  
  Oh, and Amanda Cogdon
  
  
  What about reverse-crossover?
  
  Maybe we can come up with a list of mainstream personalities that have
  now crossed over into podcasting.  I know NPR has a bunch. The most
  recent one that comes to mind are the Cartalk guys, and there's the
  Jim Lehrer podcast, but I need something more substantial then just
  NPR personalities much as i love them
  
  Oh! Heh! The digg guys!  I forgot about them. Leo Laporte too... Maybe
  Adam Curry. He's a true hybrid. A lot of people from G4/TechTV jumped
  ship and landed in this new media world. Timing as they say is
  everything.
  
  I guess the question is...
  
  Who are your favorite videoblogging celebrities?
  
  -Mike
  mefeedia.com
  mmeiser.com/blog
  
  On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote:
   Here's the video... she neglected to mention you by name. :D
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWIY_C7XUw
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@
   wrote:
   
A) Did you get your 10%? :D
   
B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
harold.johnson@ wrote:

 So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause
 I just
found
 this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it.  I know someone
(well, just
 barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV.  So
 about two
weeks
 ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this
 LisaNova, a
 self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that
 community.
 This
 acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
describe her
 talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc.  Today I
 find that
 LisaNova has now been cast 

[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread Kent Nichols
Yeah it's a good point.

But also consider that the advertising deals Ask A Ninja has dealt
with to this point have all paid us only for US views.  They don't
really care about the numbers internationally.

I'm sure some clever tech person will develop a system that will
dynamically insert the right video ad based on guessed locale of the
audience member, but we're a little ways a way from that.

The Lisa Nova thing is a nice landmark in terms of how to break
through and get a role in Hollywood.  Lisa is the first person to not
have any real acting credits and then get hired to do a big league
Hollywood gig.  (The Lonely Island guys gradually grew and then SNL
got them).

It's Hollywood's version of being bought by Google.  And I'm sure it
will happen more and more.

Ask A Ninja is a little too big to be bought now, not saying that it
will never happen, but the money Hollywood has offered is no where
near what we can make on Advertising/Merch.

-K


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And, at least from an international point of view, Im perhaps more
 interested in those who 'make it' and dont cross-over.
 
 If Ask a Ninja signed some TV deal, what good is that to me in the UK?
 That means at best I can watch their stuff months later if its picked
 up by a uk tv network?
 
 Wheras Ask A Ninja got that nice lucrative advertising deal didnt
 they, and as far as I know this means I can still watch them wherever
 I am (even if i hate ads, at least I have the option).
 
 Its funny how rarely I see the international dimensions of net video
 being discussed in the mainstream  especially business press. They
 throw all these huge numbers around concerning ad revenue, but I dont
 see all that much talk about the implications of having global
 audiences as well as relatively localised ones. Sometimes I wonder why
 the large companies that have global products  brands, dont see more
 in these opportunities, although of course I could be overstating
 things as I dont know what %age of a typical popular USA vlogs
 audience is in the USA.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
 
  Im not keeping track deliberately but off the top of my head:
  
  KarmaBanque got a deal with Al Jazeera English to make some videos for
  broadcast on TV.
  
  Clive James who is an Australian famous in Britain for many years in
  the mainstream media, now does stuff online, though I dont know if his
  videos would meet the definition of videoblogging.
  
  Years ago a famous UK TV presenter called Keith Chegwin, fairly down
  on his luck, broadcast himself live via streaming net video for many
  hours every day. I believe he was infamously naked once.
  
  A famous UK soap star had to leave the program after it was revealed
  that he had been exposing himself on a web cam he had in his dressing
  room, maybe that doesnt count :D
  
  Here in the UK im finding it pretty hard to tell if there are really
  many web celebrities here. If I go to the uk itunes podcast directory
  then its dominated by BBC  other mainstream media people. Im probably
  forgetting some really obvious example but no UK web celeb is
  springing to mind right now. In the UK the web has been used to launch
  some very sucessful (so far) musical careers, but I cant think what
  'personalities' its brought into our mainstream yet. Fameseekers here
  are currently stil more likely to try their luck in Big Brother
  auditions! Our famous homegrown youtuber is that great really old
  bloke, he has got some media attention but didnt even allow interviews
  until recently, he was the only person who'd ever filmed himself, so
  he isnt a crossover so far.
  
  Cheers
  
  Steve Elbows
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, groups-yahoo-com@ wrote:
  
   Very cool.
   
   Is anyone keeping track of vloggers and podcasters crossing over to
   broadcast radio or TV?
   
   I'm going to start a before they were famous or cross-overs
guide
   on mefeedia.
   
   So far I just have Brookers, and LisaNova but I'm trying to think of
  any others.
   
   Dawn and Drew?
   
   Madge Winestien?
   
   I'd like to put Ask A Ninja on that list one day.
   
   Aha, the Lonely Island Guys who are now on Saturday Night Live.
   
   Anyone else?
   
   Oh, and Amanda Cogdon
   
   
   What about reverse-crossover?
   
   Maybe we can come up with a list of mainstream personalities
that have
   now crossed over into podcasting.  I know NPR has a bunch. The most
   recent one that comes to mind are the Cartalk guys, and there's the
   Jim Lehrer podcast, but I need something more substantial then just
   NPR personalities much as i love them
   
   Oh! Heh! The digg guys!  I forgot about them. Leo Laporte too...
Maybe
   Adam Curry. He's a true hybrid. A lot of people from G4/TechTV
jumped
   ship and landed in this new media world. Timing as they say is
   everything.
   
   I guess the question 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-18 Thread Harold Johnson
A) Not even 1%

B) I would have IF I HAD ONE! :D

Since posting this info. to this group, I've since discovered that LisaNova
(real name Lisa Donovan) previously auditioned for MadTV, but was rejected
until recently.  Still don't know if my reminder had any influence at all on
her hiring, but you know what they say about the butterfly's movements...you
know, the Butterfly Effect?  Maybe my little wingflapping was just the extra
nudge the cast of MadTV needed to hear in order to make a decision...

Seriously, I'm not in the belief that my part in this truly made any
difference.  Still, you never know who's discussing you, and who they're
discussing you with...

Harold

On 2/17/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   A) Did you get your 10%? :D

 B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Harold Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
 found
  this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it. I know someone
 (well, just
  barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV. So about two
 weeks
  ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this LisaNova, a
  self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that community.
 This
  acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
 describe her
  talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc. Today I find that
  LisaNova has now been cast on Mad TV. Coincidence?
 
  Harold
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: LisaNova now on Mad TV

2007-02-17 Thread Bill Cammack
A) Did you get your 10%? :D

B) Next time mention YOUR OWN SHOW! :D

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So listen to this, guys -- I've just got to share this 'cause I just
found
 this out and I'm still kind of spinning on it.  I know someone
(well, just
 barely) who has a boyfriend who's a regular on Mad TV.  So about two
weeks
 ago I'm talking to her about YouTube, and I mention this LisaNova, a
 self-described vlogger who's got a huge following in that community.
 This
 acquaintance asks me what's so special about LisaNova? and I
describe her
 talent, the community that's pulling for her, etc.  Today I find that
 LisaNova has now been cast on Mad TV.  Coincidence?
 
 Harold
 
 
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