Re: MO
>>> Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without > this >>> nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be >>> responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex > our >>> egotsistic muscles. >>> >>> So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? >> >> I suppose it depends on whether we're going to have a major upheaval every >> time someone signs off. >> >> Howard Posner > > That's exactly the point. People can't even leave the list peacefully, > without creating such upheavals (rather aimed at preserving one's own sense > of ego it creates only havoc for others I suppose). > If one's decided to leave, sign off, just do it and let others benefit from > the exchange. > .. ... ... > But do keep an eye on the archives ... in an "anonymous surfer" way ;-] > > Alexander Batov I am reminded of 1939 Russian film "Cinderella". In it the King attempts to abdicate after every disagreeable turn of events, but has no intention of really leaving. RT http://polyhymnion.org ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
- Original Message - From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'vihuela'" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: MO > wrote: > > > Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this > > nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be > > responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our > > egotsistic muscles. > > > > So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? > > I suppose it depends on whether we're going to have a major upheaval every > time someone signs off. > > Howard Posner That's exactly the point. People can't even leave the list peacefully, without creating such upheavals (rather aimed at preserving one's own sense of ego it creates only havoc for others I suppose). If one's decided to leave, sign off, just do it and let others benefit from the exchange. .. ... ... But do keep an eye on the archives ... in an "anonymous surfer" way ;-] Alexander Batov To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
wrote: > Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this > nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be > responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our > egotsistic muscles. > > So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? I suppose it depends on whether we're going to have a major upheaval every time someone signs off. Howard Posner To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: MO
Rob Keep the list going! I find the exchanges rather stimulating. One can always skip over subjects that one wants to ignore. Which reminds me, I've got to empty the old recycle bin. SS __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
To the list: Please remember, too, that there are many like me who are silent readers most of the time who, late at night at the end of a long busy day at work, relish the chance to read others' opinions on the often arcane but relevant points and issues on matters of instruments, stringing, repertoire, performance practice and interpretation. I don't frequently make postings but benefit hugely from the chance to read the frequently colorful conversations that go on. And when I go back to my chair and music stand and take up my vihuela or lute, somehow all the conversation that I've read in cyberspace can make all the difference, whether it is a matter of knowing another version of a work or else just keeping in mind the contrasting points of view on the performance of a phrase or issues on tuning. So, I like staying on as a subscriber to all the lute-related lists and I like the variety of postings and contributers, too! Kenneth Be Cleveland, OH -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
> These temper tantrums crop up from time to time. > > Actually I often sign 0ff from lists temporarily if I am busy or on holiday > and then sign 0n again with out comment. Not to mention that Wayne's robot drops people from time to time during various network troubles. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
Dear Rob I am sure we all really want this list and are very grateful to you for setting it up. Please don't get depressed! These temper tantrums crop up from time to time. Actually I often sign off from lists temporarily if I am busy or on holiday and then sign on again with out comment. The best thing would be if we didn't reveal whether we were on or off it. But perhaps that is not "netiquet"? Best wishes Monica - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'vihuela' Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: MO > Oh dear. How sad. Are we so incapable of conversing in a civil manner? What > a pathetic bunch we are. I created this unmoderated list so that we could > all come together and contribute in various degrees to our greater > understanding. Obviously I was being too idealistic, and human nature is far > more negative than I was willing to give it credit for. > > Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this > nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be > responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our > egotsistic muscles. > > So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? Speak up... > > Rob MacKillop > > -Original Message- > From: Antonio Corona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 March 2005 04:44 > To: vihuela > Subject: Re: MO > > Dear all, > > I don´t know how such a situation may have arised, but one fact is perfectly > clear to me: in a list devoted to communicate and share, either all of us - > even those we disagree with - have a place, or there is no point in pursuing > what may become a futile exercice. > > I have often read Matanya's comments, have been irritated with some, > disagreed with others, but I must recognize that he is indeeed knowledgable > and has always contributed positively with his knowledge to the list. > > I feel that a place where such a person cannot find the space to interchange > information, opinions or even -on occasion- insults, for whatever reason, is > not a place for me either, so regretfully, I shall leave this list as well. > > With best regards, > Antonio > > > > > --- Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matanya has now left the list. > > > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter > > of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. > > > > Sad. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >
Re: MO
>Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this >nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. > I guess you are not in the position to do that? It's our list. >I don't want to be >responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our >egotsistic muscles. > >So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? Speak up... > > Lists are the real world. The combattants almost never stay away forever. Too curious, I suppose. L. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: MO
Oh dear. How sad. Are we so incapable of conversing in a civil manner? What a pathetic bunch we are. I created this unmoderated list so that we could all come together and contribute in various degrees to our greater understanding. Obviously I was being too idealistic, and human nature is far more negative than I was willing to give it credit for. Why don't we all leave this list? Seriously, I really can do without this nonsense. I'm thinking of folding it completely. I don't want to be responsible for creating more space in the cyberworld where we can flex our egotsistic muscles. So, fellow subscribers, do you want this list or not? Speak up... Rob MacKillop -Original Message- From: Antonio Corona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2005 04:44 To: vihuela Subject: Re: MO Dear all, I don´t know how such a situation may have arised, but one fact is perfectly clear to me: in a list devoted to communicate and share, either all of us - even those we disagree with - have a place, or there is no point in pursuing what may become a futile exercice. I have often read Matanya's comments, have been irritated with some, disagreed with others, but I must recognize that he is indeeed knowledgable and has always contributed positively with his knowledge to the list. I feel that a place where such a person cannot find the space to interchange information, opinions or even -on occasion- insults, for whatever reason, is not a place for me either, so regretfully, I shall leave this list as well. With best regards, Antonio --- Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matanya has now left the list. > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter > of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. > > Sad. > > Rob > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: MO
Dear Antonio, Please reconsider staying with us. It is my understanding that Matanya left the list for his personal reasons, and he was not asked to leave. I do not believe there is a moderator of the vihuela list. Also, Matanya has a history of joining and leaving the lute list, for his personal reasons. I too share your same point of view. You have an absolute wealth of knowledge, and I hope you will continue. Sincerely, Edward At 04:44 AM 3/1/2005 +, Antonio Corona wrote: >Dear all, > >I don´t know how such a situation may have arised, but >one fact is perfectly clear to me: in a list devoted >to communicate and share, either all of us - even >those we disagree with - have a place, or there is no >point in pursuing what may become a futile exercice. > >I have often read Matanya's comments, have been >irritated with some, disagreed with others, but I must >recognize that he is indeeed knowledgable and has >always contributed positively with his knowledge to >the list. > >I feel that a place where such a person cannot find >the space to interchange information, opinions or even >-on occasion- insults, for whatever reason, is not a >place for me either, so regretfully, I shall leave >this list as well. > >With best regards, >Antonio > > > > > --- Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matanya has now left the list. > > > > It is not a question of who is right or who is > > wrong. It is a matter of > > sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some > > people. > > > > Sad. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
Re: MO
Dear all, I don´t know how such a situation may have arised, but one fact is perfectly clear to me: in a list devoted to communicate and share, either all of us - even those we disagree with - have a place, or there is no point in pursuing what may become a futile exercice. I have often read Matanya's comments, have been irritated with some, disagreed with others, but I must recognize that he is indeeed knowledgable and has always contributed positively with his knowledge to the list. I feel that a place where such a person cannot find the space to interchange information, opinions or even -on occasion- insults, for whatever reason, is not a place for me either, so regretfully, I shall leave this list as well. With best regards, Antonio --- Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matanya has now left the list. > > It is not a question of who is right or who is > wrong. It is a matter of > sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some > people. > > Sad. > > Rob > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: MO
Thanks Arto, I always knew you were a true friend... RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/adc >> Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO >> has gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. > > If I had to choose between them, ..., well it is best to shut my > mouth... ;-)) > > Arto > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com
RE: MO
No problem! I think I was not very clear in my first post. I was a bit depressed about it all. Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: Stephan Olbertz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2005 19:05 To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu; Rob MacKillop Subject: Re: MO Dear Rob, I apologize for my wrong reading of your posting! Maybe I was a bit hasty... Best regards, Stephan Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:39:25 - schrieb Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You got the message the wrong way round, Stephan. I didn't kick him > off this list - I am not in a position to do that to anyone. And I am > personally saddened that he has chosen to go, but I understand his > reasons. I actually invited him to take part in this list. He asked if > RT was a contributor, and at that time I said I don't think he is. So > Matanya made some valuable contributions. Eventually RT did join up, > and the inevitable clash came. MO just can't be bothered with the > confrontation, and decided to leave. I can see now, from my earlier > posting, that it looks like I kicked him off the list. Nothing could > be further from the truth, and this list remains unmoderated. > > Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO > has gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. > > Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. > > Rob > > -Original Message- > From: Stephan Olbertz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 February 2005 08:24 > To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: MO > > Dear Rob, > > I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there > were quite some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it > takes at least two, BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate > filters in our software. I have been filtering out some people who > contribute nothing than hot air and silly offtopics (which MO does > neither, IMO), but I wouldn't welcome it to see them kicked off the > list. There always seem to be some who read and answer those postings, and that's ok if I don't have to. > > Regards, > > Stephan > > > Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:34:31 - schrieb Rob MacKillop > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Matanya has now left the list. >> >> It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter >> of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. >> >> Sad. >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > > > -- > Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: > http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > > > > > -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: MO
Dear Rob, I apologize for my wrong reading of your posting! Maybe I was a bit hasty... Best regards, Stephan Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:39:25 - schrieb Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You got the message the wrong way round, Stephan. I didn't kick him off this > list - I am not in a position to do that to anyone. And I am personally > saddened that he has chosen to go, but I understand his reasons. I actually > invited him to take part in this list. He asked if RT was a contributor, and > at that time I said I don't think he is. So Matanya made some valuable > contributions. Eventually RT did join up, and the inevitable clash came. MO > just can't be bothered with the confrontation, and decided to leave. I can > see now, from my earlier posting, that it looks like I kicked him off the > list. Nothing could be further from the truth, and this list remains > unmoderated. > > Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO has > gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. > > Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. > > Rob > > -Original Message- > From: Stephan Olbertz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 February 2005 08:24 > To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: MO > > Dear Rob, > > I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there were > quite some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it takes at least > two, BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate filters in our > software. I have been filtering out some people who contribute nothing than > hot air and silly offtopics (which MO does neither, IMO), but I wouldn't > welcome it to see them kicked off the list. There always seem to be some who > read and answer those postings, and that's ok if I don't have to. > > Regards, > > Stephan > > > Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:34:31 - schrieb Rob MacKillop > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Matanya has now left the list. >> >> It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter >> of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. >> >> Sad. >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > > > -- > Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > > > > > -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: MO
> At 11:14 AM 2/28/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: >> I wasn't planning to invoke MO one more time, but SHARING is what he >> reviles the most. Make no mistake about it. > My experience with Matanya is that he is amongst the most sharing and > generous men I know. I don't want to quibble on this topic, but I don't > believe I am making any mistakes about it. Opinionated? Yes, but I don't > even mind when his opinion differs from mine. > Eugene Some of his opinions apropos RT (apologies to the list, I am using euphemisms to tone down his original English and Russian lute-net vocabulary): Thief, Plagiarist, Bad composer, Liar, Cheater, Amoral Individual, Shame of the Ukrainian People, Fecal particle, Nether area, Nether area fit for penetration with a *threaded* object of a specific nature (i.e. to increase chafing), etc. I would have agreed with him on the 3rd item, but my friends' disagreement overrode my insecurity. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
At 11:14 AM 2/28/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: >I wasn't planning to invoke MO one more time, but SHARING is what he >reviles the most. Make no mistake about it. My experience with Matanya is that he is amongst the most sharing and generous men I know. I don't want to quibble on this topic, but I don't believe I am making any mistakes about it. Opinionated? Yes, but I don't even mind when his opinion differs from mine. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
- Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: MO > > Matanya has now left the list. > > > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter of > > sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. > I wasn't planning to invoke MO one more time, but SHARING is what he > reviles the most. Make no mistake about it. > RT >From my personal experience with Mantanya (and as many of you know we've had quite some quarelles over the years) this statement simply isn't true. Matanya had had me to his house a number of times and given me free access not only to his incredible collection of scores but also to his photocopier! And he's done the same for others, resultign in publications that otherwise would probably never have happened. Roman, don't you think this obsession of yours is a bit unhealty? It's certainly a pain in the ass for the rest of us who don't wish to censor their inbox. Stanley To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
> Matanya has now left the list. > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter of > sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. I wasn't planning to invoke MO one more time, but SHARING is what he reviles the most. Make no mistake about it. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/adc ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
On Monday 28 February 2005 16:39, Rob MacKillop wrote: > Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO > has gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. If I had to choose between them, ..., well it is best to shut my mouth... ;-)) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
At 10:22 AM 2/28/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: >Be careful with what you wish for.... MO has antagonized most of his >friends and almost all of his collaborators. Not me...or if he has, I have taken it to be friendly ribbing, shrugged it off, and laughed. > > > > Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. > > Rob >I'm definitely FOR solidarity. Me too. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
> You got the message the wrong way round, Stephan. I didn't kick him off this > list - I am not in a position to do that to anyone. And I am personally > saddened that he has chosen to go, but I understand his reasons. I actually > invited him to take part in this list. He asked if RT was a contributor, and > at that time I said I don't think he is. So Matanya made some valuable > contributions. Eventually RT did join up, and the inevitable clash came. MO > just can't be bothered with the confrontation, and decided to leave. I can > see now, from my earlier posting, that it looks like I kicked him off the > list. Nothing could be further from the truth, and this list remains > unmoderated. > > Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO has > gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. Be careful with what you wish for MO has antagonized most of his friends and almost all of his collaborators. > > Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. > Rob I'm definitely FOR solidarity. RT > I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there were > quite some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it takes at least > two, BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate filters in our > software. I have been filtering out some people who contribute nothing than > hot air and silly offtopics (which MO does neither, IMO), but I wouldn't > welcome it to see them kicked off the list. There always seem to be some who > read and answer those postings, and that's ok if I don't have to. > > Regards, > > Stephan > > > Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:34:31 - schrieb Rob MacKillop > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Matanya has now left the list. >> >> It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter >> of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. >> >> Sad. >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > > > -- > Erstellt mit Operas revolution?m E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > > > > > >
RE: MO
Well said. Eugene At 09:39 AM 2/28/2005, Rob MacKillop wrote: >You got the message the wrong way round, Stephan. I didn't kick him off this >list - I am not in a position to do that to anyone. And I am personally >saddened that he has chosen to go, but I understand his reasons. I actually >invited him to take part in this list. He asked if RT was a contributor, and >at that time I said I don't think he is. So Matanya made some valuable >contributions. Eventually RT did join up, and the inevitable clash came. MO >just can't be bothered with the confrontation, and decided to leave. I can >see now, from my earlier posting, that it looks like I kicked him off the >list. Nothing could be further from the truth, and this list remains >unmoderated. > >Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO has >gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. > >Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. > >Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: MO
You got the message the wrong way round, Stephan. I didn't kick him off this list - I am not in a position to do that to anyone. And I am personally saddened that he has chosen to go, but I understand his reasons. I actually invited him to take part in this list. He asked if RT was a contributor, and at that time I said I don't think he is. So Matanya made some valuable contributions. Eventually RT did join up, and the inevitable clash came. MO just can't be bothered with the confrontation, and decided to leave. I can see now, from my earlier posting, that it looks like I kicked him off the list. Nothing could be further from the truth, and this list remains unmoderated. Roman, you are welcome to this list. You are doubtless happy that MO has gone, however there are many of us who wish he had stayed. Everyone: let's get along. We are all in this together. Rob -Original Message- From: Stephan Olbertz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2005 08:24 To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: MO Dear Rob, I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there were quite some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it takes at least two, BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate filters in our software. I have been filtering out some people who contribute nothing than hot air and silly offtopics (which MO does neither, IMO), but I wouldn't welcome it to see them kicked off the list. There always seem to be some who read and answer those postings, and that's ok if I don't have to. Regards, Stephan Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:34:31 - schrieb Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Matanya has now left the list. > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter > of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. > > Sad. > > Rob > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: MO
> I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there were quite > some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it takes at least two, > BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate filters in our software. I > have been filtering out some people who contribute nothing than hot air and > silly offtopics (which MO does neither, IMO), It is true, MO _could have been_ a great contributor, but the problem is that he doesn't like to see contradictions from anybody, and some of his opinions are not exactly watertight (he has some pet ideas like "vihuela never existed" and "boccherini didn't write his quintets"). Neither are his "morals", and it was a matter of time before he'd use these to sour the list. I used to actually like him, and defended him quite a few times until he turned on me, out of the blue, some years ago, eventually using some Russian pejoratives of a strength unknown in English. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/adc ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: MO
Dear Rob, I didn't know that this list is moderated. While in the past there were quite some flamewars on other lists between MO and others (it takes at least two, BTW), we all are capable of setting up appropriate filters in our software. I have been filtering out some people who contribute nothing than hot air and silly offtopics (which MO does neither, IMO), but I wouldn't welcome it to see them kicked off the list. There always seem to be some who read and answer those postings, and that's ok if I don't have to. Regards, Stephan Am Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:34:31 - schrieb Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Matanya has now left the list. > > It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter of > sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. > > Sad. > > Rob > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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Matanya has now left the list. It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter of sharing. That concept is clearly lost on some people. Sad. Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
