Re: Connecting Macs via serial ports
On Friday, June 14, 2002, at 09:30 , Rob Jennings wrote: Hmmm. Well, I don't think I have heard of an easy hardware solution to do this on a Mac. In order to route internet you will need something like IPNetRouter as a software router. There used to be (maybe still are?) hardware AppleTalk routers. I think he is trying to connect a Mac without Ethernet to a UNIX box. Because no UNIX operating system supports LocalTalk and likely never will, he is attempting to make a PPP connection. This is further complicated by the different serial cables - DIN8 on the Mac and DB25 on his UNIX box. DIN8 to DB25 null modem cables do not seem to be readily available. This is true, but my Unix box is also a Mac -- a G3 Gossamer tower, with DIN8 serial ports just like the vintage Macs I want to connect to it. (I'll be running OS X Server v1.2 on it). So I need a DIN8-DIN8 null-modem solution. That seems to be the same as a printer cable on an old Mac. Eagle -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Connecting Macs via serial ports
On Saturday, June 15, 2002, at 03:55 am, (Vintage Macs) wrote: Thanks for your response, but I'm not trying to get them networked via AppleTalk -- I don't want to do File Sharing. I want to get an old Mac onto Internet, and to do that I want it to talk (via PPP) to another computer. But I want to do that over a serial cable instead of over a modem. What you want to do is reasonable but slow... To connect two Macs with mini DIN 8 pin sockets over null modem, you use the same cable as for a Mac to an ImageWriter II. See: http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/MiscInfo/Modems/serial.cables -- the source, David Empson, is very reliable. To make your own cable, the pinouts can be found at: http://www.cablingdirectory.com/pinouts/apple/apple.htm There ought to be a way to do this -- all it should take is a null modem cable (two DIN8-to-DB25 cables and a null modem adapter should also work) and the proper software. I'm sufficiently versed in software and will eventually figure out that end of it -- the only thing I need help with is the physical layer. I don't know what constitutes a null modem cable for a Mac -- my serial port knowledge is only on PCs, and I have yet to figure out what of that translates to the Mac. This *may* work if the DIN8-to-DB25 cables are Mac modem cables but it is a bit clumsy. It would be a lot better to convert a standard Mac serial cable to a null modem. Another way to look at is like this: I want to use one Mac as a terminal on the other. I know ZTerm will allow me to do this, but how can I hook the two up to get ZTerm to work? The project is much more complex than that, but that's where it starts. All of the instructions I've found detail how to do what I want to do... but over a modem. I want to do it via null modem -- directly from computer to computer. Configure the PPP and TCP/IP software of your choice on the Mac, configure the PPP daemon on OS X server and you should then be able to log in using MacSSH as a terminal. There is probably some way to use the older Mac as a simple serial console (ie without TCP/IP) with the OS X server (Apple are providing this as an option with their new XServe box...), but I don't have an OS X box with a serial port to try it. Fom memory, some useful Mac null modem cables are: To connect a Mac with mini DIN 8 pin socket to a 25 pin D connector (eg a PC) over a null modem, you use the same cable as for a Mac to an ImageWriter I. A 25 pin to 9 pin convertor can be used to connect to a 9 pin PC socket but will not work with a Mac 128/512 socket. To connect a Mac with mini DIN 8 pin socket to a Mac with 9 pin D connector (128/512 compacts) over a null modem, you use the same cable as for a Mac128/512 to an ImageWriter II. Phil --- http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
lisa
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Re: lisa
At 22:27 + on 15/06/02, Al wrote: can anyone give me an approximate value of a lisa? Really depends on a lot of factors, but probably anywhere from US$250 on up to the US$3000 range. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Connecting Macs via serial ports
I know I have an extra IWII cable here (from IWII to Super Serial card on IIe), I would be glad too send it, providing you pay s/h. Reply off-list if you want this cable. Steven What you want to do is reasonable but slow... To connect two Macs with mini DIN 8 pin sockets over null modem, you use the same cable as for a Mac to an ImageWriter II. See: http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/MiscInfo/Modems/serial.cables -- the source, David Empson, is very reliable. To make your own cable, the pinouts can be found at: http://www.cablingdirectory.com/pinouts/apple/apple.htm -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lisa
-- From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: lisa Date: Sat, Jun 15, 2002, 3:27 PM hi can anyone give me an approximate value of a lisa? thanks PRICELESS.;^) Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Connecting Macs via serial ports
So I need a DIN8-DIN8 null-modem solution. That seems to be the same as a printer cable on an old Mac. I'm pretty sure a printer cable will work, I remember using it to directly connect two macs in the past. You should be able to run PPP on the G3 if you're going that route. Maybe Apple will add LocalTalk capability to OSX. - Mike -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for a Mac IIci??
At 23:03 -0700 on 14/06/02, Fran Dollinger wrote: I've been trying to get my Mac IIci online for a few days now with no success. All I've been able to find in the FAQ is going through a modem (dialup). I have a cable modem. I've entered the particulars into MacTCP and NADA! I don't even know what questions to ask at this Get Open Transport. There's a link in the FAQ. Set it to DHCP. If that doesn't work, report back with details. the pickle -- Hi pickle! I have a similar problem. I'm using 7.53 on a IIci with an ethernet card attached to a hub -Netgear 104- which has a cable modem plugged into it along with a Umax S900. I can mount the IIci drives on the Umax and can get into files, but when I try to use Eudora or Netscape (or iCab) I can't make a connection. I tried installing OT 1.0.8, which seems like the oldest version I can find. It wont install on a IIci. Is there anything else that I can install that will allow me to set DHCP? dan_A -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for a Mac IIci??
For what little its worth, when we first had cable connected the poor installer person had trouble finding a DHCP connection using the version of Open Transport that ships with OS8.1. Seems the mac would have to be updated to 8.5 and make use of the OT version that ships with that before DHCP would work with our supplier. Sorry forgetting version numbers tonight. Anyway, the work round was to configure the connection manually. The connected machine had to be called CO808658-1, yours would be different of course, to make connection, on a mac this is in the filesharing control panel or sharing setup. Then using expert mode in the tpc control panel fill out all of the fields by hand on the right hand side and make sure you had the correct starting domain name filled in correctly. If you have a pc connected to the cable at sometime, the settings should be easy enough to find. This worked with OS8.1 sorry I'm unsure whether this is much help with lower versions of OT or whether it helps you using MacTPC. The classic macs network as well as I expect them to using MacTPC and a dynamic address over the local network but thats through a localtalk connection and IPnetRouter. Good luck. Posted to the list as I dont wont to led you wrong with bad info. Fran Dollinger wrote: I've been trying to get my Mac IIci online for a few days now with no success. All I've been able to find in the FAQ is going through a modem (dialup). I have a cable modem. I've entered the particulars into MacTCP and NADA! I don't even know what questions to ask at this point. I have an ethernet card installed that lights up and a good working connectionwhat am I missing? Any help? Contact me offlist. Fran -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lisa
At 22:27 + on 15/06/02, Al wrote: can anyone give me an approximate value of a lisa? Really depends on a lot of factors, but probably anywhere from US$250 on up to the US$3000 range. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml WOW! Are the Lisa's really worth that much? I had no Idea I have a collection of 8 bit atari computers and I found out they are worth a bit as well. Anybody want a list? Other vintage machines are valuable if mint, but the Lisa takes the cake! [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the atari list -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 475
Vintage Macs wrote... From: Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Performa 475 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:37:48 -0700 I got a 475 at the Goodwill for $4.99. I got it to boot. The battery was low. I changed the battery but it still seems to need the switch flipped twice to get it to boot. Any ideas? No, sorry. Another problem is it has is it has At Ease on it with a password. How do I get rid of that? Restart holding down the Shift key until you see the Mac OS splash screen, thus disabling all extensions. Do a search (Cmd-F) for at ease and trash every item found. Restart. BobF -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 475
Another problem is it has is it has At Ease on it with a password. How do I get rid of that? Restart holding down the Shift key until you see the Mac OS splash screen, thus disabling all extensions. Do a search (Cmd-F) for at ease and trash every item found. Restart. BobF It worked fine. Thank you Bobf johnsn -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mac Iisi
Picked up a IIsi today and It won't boot off hard drive Or floppy? Any idea's Lou -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Iisi
Picked up a IIsi today and It won't boot off hard drive Or floppy? Any idea's Lou swap in a known good floppy or dard drive and see what it does johnsn -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Iisi
On 6/15/02 5:52 PM, Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picked up a IIsi today and It won't boot off hard drive Or floppy? Any idea's Lou swap in a known good floppy or dard drive and see what it does johnsn I actually have 2 of these one will boot from the floppy the other one won't. Lou -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for a Mac IIci??
--- dan_A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umax and can get into files, but when I try to use Eudora or Netscape (or iCab) I can't make a connection. I tried installing OT 1.0.8, which seems like the oldest version I can find. It wont install on a IIci. Is there anything else that I can install that will allow me to set DHCP? Just install OT 1.1.1 immediately followed by 1.1.2. You can't just install the OT 1.1.2 that Apple has on their FTP, it must be installed over OT 1.1.1. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to walk me through connecting my IIci to my 7300/200 (OS 8.6), which I am using right now on the cable modem, and then explain how to transfer files.(I'm running OS 7.5, no CD on the IIci) TIA, Fran -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to The images on the Apple site will fit on a floppy. It's a pain, but bask in the nostalgia. = - Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lisa
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other vintage machines are valuable if mint, but the Lisa takes the cake! The value of a Lisa depends mostly on if it's in good cosmetic condition and if it's fully functional. Generally the later models with normal floppy drives, more RAM and hard drives will be worth more, unless you find a collector determined to have a perfect, original specification version. :) The MacWorks software can be found to convert a Lisa to a MacXL. To do a complete MacXL conversion you need the hard drive, normal floppy drives and the replacement video parts to correct the display aspect ratio. Otherwise the MacXL screen will look like it's stretched vertically. What made Lisa so rare was that Apple supposedly threw all the unsold units into a landfill. Probably had to for accounting reasons so they could be written off as a business loss. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
--- Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to walk me through connecting my IIci to my 7300/200 (OS 8.6), which I am using right now on the cable modem, and then explain how to transfer files.(I'm running OS 7.5, no CD on the IIci) ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Open_Transport/ It's available there either in one big file (net install) or in floppy size chunks that are Disk Copy disk images. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to walk me through connecting my IIci to my 7300/200 (OS 8.6), which I am using right now on the cable modem, and then explain how to transfer files.(I'm running OS 7.5, no CD on the IIci) TIA, Fran -- Hi Fran Although I am in the same boat as you in not being able to use the cable modem through my IIci, I did manage to set up a network that works using ethernet. I used ethernet because the cable is connected to my ethernet port on my SuperMac s900 which is running OS 9.1 with a G4 upgrade processor. The IIci is running OS 7.5.3, which is the highest OS that you can put onto the machine with its OEM processor, and which to date doesn't like Open Transport which is the other component that enables the IIci to get on the Internet with a cable modem. Right now I am trying to find a copy of OT 1.0 and then 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 which I am told I can install and subsequently upgrade. OT 1.0, a buggy and old version is made for Nubus machines and OS 7.5.3. That's what I need to find first. If anyone has a link to, or a copy of these versions of open transport and wants to email it to me, I would sure appreciate it. To get files back and forth between the 2 machines I did this: I got a Nubus ethernet card for the IIci on ebay for $5.00 plus shipping. I also got a Netgear EN104 4 port Hub on ebay for $9.00 plus shipping. This enabled me to connect the cable modem, and the 2 macs. (I also bought 2 ethernet cables -CAT5E RJ45 UTP NETWORK PATCH CABLE GRAY-to the lengths I needed) Then you have to set up your IIci control panel-mac/tcp to the ethernet, turn file sharing on in both machines, go to the chooser and select appleshare. You should then be able to mount the drives of one computer onto the other. I hope this explains the setup, at least roughly, to you and maybe gets us a connection to OT versions. The Apple archives don't have these older versions of Open Transport, OT 1.0.8 is the oldest and still too new to install on OS 7.5.3. dan_A -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
At 11:59 PM 6/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: The IIci is running OS 7.5.3, which is the highest OS that you can put onto the machine with its OEM processor, and which to date doesn't like Open Transport which is the other component that enables the IIci to get on the Internet with a cable modem. That's funny, mine's running 8.1 quite happily ;) At any rate, every install of 7.5.3 I've installed includes Open Transport. Do a search for Network Software Selector and try switching it to Open Transport. 1.0.8 can't be too new for 7.5.3 as I use 1.1.2 on 7.1 all the time. Scott Holder -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Iisi
-- From: Louis Labrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: Mac Iisi Date: Sat, Jun 15, 2002, 2:11 PM Picked up a IIsi today and It won't boot off hard drive Or floppy? Any idea's Lou Open it up. Chances are the floppy drive's got dust bunnies in it, and the hard drive's got stiction. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
