Re: Mac II

2004-09-29 Thread Jeff Garrison
on 9/29/04 3:55 PM, Ian Nixon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi people...
 
 I was taking inventory of my basement, and when it came to the Macs, I
 found a Mac II I didn't remember having!  Anyway...I powered it up,
 heard the chime, and it proceeded to the desktop.  It has System 7.1 on
 it, and a few interesting apps.
 
 The monitor I have is big enough (16 inches!) for me to use, but I do
 not like it at all, because it literally takes 5 seconds for a menu to
 disappear (you still see a shadow of it).  It's a The Big Picture
 monitor.
 
 The II has a video card in it, but I'm not sure if it can support
 color, because the The Big Picture monitor only displays black and
 white.
 
 Besides eBay and the SwapList, is there any place I can get a monitor
 for it (preferably color)?
 
 Any help is appreciated...
 
 Ian




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Re: Mac IIci La Cie HD System Install Problem

2004-09-26 Thread Jeff Garrison
on 9/25/04 8:49 AM, David Ricker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Folks
 
 I have a IIci which I want to upgrade with a LaCie 6 Gb SE HD and I am
 having some problems.
 
 I have tried formatting with the LaCie utilities which came with it
 (it's from an OS8 Power Mac, ver. 5.8.3  also Lite) with no success.  I
 do not have Silverlining 5.5 which is supposed to be the best version
 for this.
 
 I have formatted with a patched version of the Apple HDSC tools (7.3.5)
 I re-initialized the driver with this ver.

 Would another formatting tool do the trick?  Can one (or SL 3.5) be
 downloaded anywhere?  It doesn't seem worth it to pay $ for a tool to
 try  see if it works especially if it is likely an obsolete tool!
 
 Tks!
 
 Dave R.
 
 
 

~~~

I'm thinking the IIci doesn't like the La Cie formatter. It's newer. Made
for OS 8. 

Google for a formatter called Lido 7.56. Use it to partition the 6 gigger
to 3-two gig partitions. Install your OS on the first partition and use the
other two for apps.


You can also format the drive with your HDSC Tools (7.5.3) if you remember
to partition it into three, two gig drives.

Add a System folder, (7.5.3?), and then go on to reboot it.

Once you get there, try re-partitioning it to the full 6 gigs.

If you see success, go on and add you OS and programs.



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Re: Just a Test

2004-09-15 Thread Jeff Garrison
on 9/15/04 3:12 AM, Tristan Krautz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is actually a good thing - this means nobody's Macs are broken
 ;-)
 
 OR they are all broken and no one can get online.
 
 Tristan.
 
~~~

Heh heh. I've got a small stable of them and they're all in working order.
From the LC's to the IIci's they all are set to pull their weight in apps
and email. I'll even use them to websurf because they CAN.


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Re: Just a Test

2004-09-12 Thread Jeff Garrison
On Sunday, September 12, 2004, at 07:18 AM, James Rice wrote:
I'm just testing.  Wondering if I'm still on the list or is it just 
too quiet in here.

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Re: Standing Down...

2004-09-08 Thread Jeff Garrison
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Mark Benson wrote:
Just to let everyone know that I have handed in my papers and an 
standing down as the list Nanny for Vintage Macs. It's been so quiet 
here recently I don't think it needs a full-time dedicated Nanny 
(sadly), also i have had a shift in priorities and no longer have the 
time to admin for the LEM lists.

I'll still be around if anyone needs me for Mac related stuff but I'm 
afraid I will no longer be able to handle anything admin related.

--
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~~~
Sounds as if your life is making a turn.  Hopefully for the better.  
Best of luck to you
in your future endeavors, Mark. You've been a great well of 
information. And never once, that I can recall, have you ever been 
cruel to a newbie.=^)

Luck,
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Re: Ned Help Installing OPERA on MAC LC-580

2004-09-01 Thread Jeff Garrison
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 01:03 PM, Robert J. Stevens wrote:
I download a copy of OPERA for MAC OS 7.x.
I transfered to MAC Via CD then unstuffed with STUFFIT 5.5. Got a 
folder
full of Stuff but not sure how to proceed.
I have both IE 3.01 and NS 3.01 on MAC and FreePPP which connects 
nicely
with my ISP.
I'm hoping Opera will give me better results.
Does anyone know what the latest Versions if IE and NS are that will 
run
with OS 7.6.1
Bob



From memory, I.E. 4.5 will, Netscape 4.7 will. I'd avoid Netscape. I've 
never
had any consistent performance with it except for 7.0 which won't work 
in 7.6.1.

iCab's a good bet for 7.6.1. A little slower than most, but very solid.
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Re: Apple 350Mb Hard Drive in IIci

2004-08-31 Thread Jeff Garrison
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 07:25 AM, Andrew McCall wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have a Mac IIci (that I absolutely love!) in pristine condition.
I bought an Apple 350Mb SCSI drive from eBay knowing that it should 
work in
the IIci.  The drive came and is an IBM SDDS 3363 (not sure of the 
*exact*
name as I don't have it with me right this second!) with an Apple logo 
on
it.

The drive doesn't appear to have an LED connector on it, and I am a bit
disappointed about this as I really want that orange LED flashing when 
I am
using the drive!

The drive does have a few pins on it, but I can't seem to find any
information on it - does anyone know of drives like this from Apple, 
and
does anyone know if its possible to hook an LED to it?

Thanks,
Andrew McCall
~~~
If that's the black one, I think its a DSAS-3360 (?)
Go here for jumper info:   
http://www.embeddedlogic.com/TH99/h/txt/1659.txt

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Re: Restoring Apple's Plastic Cases

2004-08-31 Thread Jeff Garrison
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 08:59 AM, ROBO5.8 wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have one of the first Mac's and Imagewriters which have been sitting 
unused for about 15 years.

The plastic on the Mac case and keyboard has discolored from use and 
sitting by a window for its first 5 years of use.

Can anyone advise me if there is a way to restore the original color 
within the plastic?

Thanks Robo

I have always used Clorox Cleanup and a Teflon scrub-sponge.
I disassemble the Mac, etc., and spray it all over with CleanUp. It 
sits in
the outside sun all day, being sprayed again and again. Up to ten or 
more times.

On the last spray, I scrub with the above sponge while rinsing under 
warm water.

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Re: video card in IIsi

2004-05-09 Thread Jeff Garrison
On 2004.05.09 18:21 Nat wrote:

Yeah, I just checked on the Quadra 800 and there are no control panels
or
system extensions whatsoever for the Radius video card on the startup
disk
(or any other disk, for that matter).
One of the first things I did was check the Monitors control panel on
the
Mac IIsi, and it does *NOT* list the two video cards as monitors 1 and
2.
IT only lists monitor 1-- the internal video.
Since I am installing this onto a Macintosh IIsi, there *IS* only one
expansion slot so I'm not sure how I can move it to a seperate slot,
unless we are talking about logical slots and not physical slots.
-Nat




Sorry, I keep seeing IIsi as IIci. That thng come with an angle adapter?

And again, make sure there are no bent pins in the connector or Angle 
adapter.

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Re: Screaming LC

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Garrison

Folks,

I'm doing some volunteer work at my son's school, trying to keep some
venerable hardware in use. I've got an LC that I'm trying to set up
for the kindergarden class to use for practicing keyboarding and
mouse manipulation.

It starts up with a satisfactory 'Bong!' and seems to be running
System 7.5.5 with no problem. However, it starts screaming and
squealing like an AM radio in a really bad reception area. The
problem is definitely in the sound generation, not the hard drive
bearings. (I swapped hard drives to no effect; removed sound/fan
module and problem went away).

Can anyone suggest a way to fix this? Certainly I can clip the
speaker leads, but then the soothing 'Bong!' goes away. :-(  Is this
an indication that bit-rot is setting in and that I should just part
out the box to salvage other boxes? I have absolutely no money for
'upgrades'. Repairs will have to be made out of salvage or my own
resources.

TIA for your help.


The squeal COULD be a bad Sound Control Panel. Got a way to replace it and
try again?

Jeff



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Re: mac2ci scsi

2001-11-01 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Jair-Rohm Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: mac2ci scsi


High;

I have a Mac2ci running os 7.5.3 that i am trying to connect a scsi2
external drive to. The problem is that the Mac tries to boot from the (non
bootable) external drive. How do i get the Mac to recognise the drive and
boot from the internal harddisk?

Thanks;

JPW



Don't let the external be drive 6. Make sure the internal is drive zero.
Open the Startup Disk control panel and click once on the Internal drive's
Icon, then restart.

Boot from a floppy. Make the internal drive the startup drive.

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Re: LC475 and 24bit color?

2001-10-27 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: LC475 and 24bit color?


I'm wondering why, when it has the VRAM upgrade,
I can only get a max of 256 colors from that LC475?

Does it have something to do with the AppleVision 14
monitor and the fact that I don't have the AppleVision
software installed?

I've been too busy to try the Color Plus monitor on
it. :( This weekend for sure, in between washing
loads of clothes.

The LC475 is spoken for, I just need to fiddle with
a few things more then get it boxed and weighed for
shipping.



Yes, the size of the monitor DOES affect the colors the 475 will produce.
And with only one VRAM slot, you'll not get more than 16 colors anyway under
usual
conditions with the 512k chip.

Jeff


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Re: Turbo 601 Control 1.1.?

2001-10-16 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: Turbo 601 Control 1.1.?


I know there was one more version of the DayStar
Turbo 601 Control panel after 1.1. It was obtained
from DayStar after sending a Turbo 601 in for a ROM
update so that a IIvi/IIvx using it could have more
than 256 colors on the built in video. After
downloading
the 1.1 software from DayStar and reading the
instructions on updating from the 1.0 control panel,
it's obvious that all DayStar did was pop the card
into a IIvi or IIvx with the 1.1.x control panel
installed and boot it up. :) I just wonder what
advantages the 1.1.x ROM would provide for a Turbo 601
in any other Mac?

The main problem I have is that even though SCSI
Manager 4.3 is in the ROM in the Turbo 601, it just
will not work correctly even if it is enabled
before a clean install of the system is done. It
crashes
and apps that require SM4.3 claim it isn't there.
Install with SM4.3 off and it's OK but still no
apps that require it will work


Wonder what would happen if you ran Wish I Were and changed the
Gestalt ID?

Jeff


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A Request Fulfilled.....

2001-10-15 Thread Jeff Garrison

A while back, a fellow lister asked me to post info about my IIci after it
became a Performa 475.

Go to http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/IIciQuadra.htm

and see what a tongue-in-cheek conversion is like.

Cheers,

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Re: A Request Fulfilled.....

2001-10-15 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, October 15, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: A Request Fulfilled.


 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs)
 From:  Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   A Request Fulfilled.
 Date:  Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:08:49 -0700

 A while back, a fellow lister asked me to post info about my IIci after
it
 became a Performa 475.

 Go to http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/IIciQuadra.htm

 and see what a tongue-in-cheek conversion is like.

Great to see this mods but the last photo, I want note
that:

Last photo url is broken.

Cheers,

Wizard



I just checked it. It's OK. It's a larger file. I left it nearly full
quality to show
as much detail as possible. Try it again. Let it come in all the way.

Jeff


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OT, kinda, But Well.....

2001-10-09 Thread Jeff Garrison

I placed NetBSD/Mac68k on a IIci with a 1.2GIG hard drive, 32 Megs
of Ram and a Cache Card. It installed perfectly. Set up was fairly
error-free.
I run in Root and as User also with a name and password.

It seems to be easy enough.

What comes next if I want to turn this thing into a server?

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Re: DOS

2001-10-07 Thread Jeff Garrison


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To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, October 07, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: DOS


My Reply follows quote. On 06/10/2001 22:39 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

Hey I have a bunch Tandy 1000's around here including a 1000 RL, plus 
some back breaking portables as well.  Where do they fit in, and what 
about CPM?
Dale

I've got 2 versions of Deskmate.
And CP/M?  Best studied and left laying on the dust of antiquity.
Most of the limited commands are obscure and stupid at best.

Jeff

Now, now! That's no way to talk about my first OS!

Ken Daggett
http://home1.gte.net/res0bznj/index.htm



I know, I know. Me too. First toy was a Commodore PET. But WHY
commands like PIP? I thought POKE and PEEK were dumb enough. 

;^)   Jeff


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Re: IIsi dead

2001-10-06 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Alexander Klock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, October 06, 2001 3:47 AM
Subject: IIsi dead


Hi everyone,

after moving the computer from my store back home, the little IIsi is
completely dead. No reaction pressing the power-on-key, neither on the
keyboard nor at the back of the computer.

Is there a fuse or something that I should look for?

Thank you
alex



Remove the top and ascertain whether any of the connections or parts plugged
into the motherboard have come loose in the move. I have booted my 6 IIsi's
with dead PRAM batteries.

Rotate the power switch in the rear of the machine with a screwdriver.

Make sure the power cord you are using is working properly.

If you are knowledgeable, make sure there is power available at the
source, to the little power supply inside, and out of the power supply
to the motherboard.

Jeff




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Re: DOS

2001-10-06 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: dhill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, October 06, 2001 2:17 PM
Subject: DOS


Hey I have a bunch Tandy 1000's around here including a 1000 RL, plus 
some back breaking portables as well.  Where do they fit in, and what 
about CPM?
Dale



I've got 2 versions of Deskmate.
And CP/M?  Best studied and left laying on the dust of antiquity.
Most of the limited commands are obscure and stupid at best.

Jeff


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Re: Running mac on my pc

2001-10-05 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Running mac on my pc


on 10/5/01 10:30 AM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 can somone tell me how to do it? I would looove to see my amd
1.2ghz
 runnin' mac os no more windows!!! the kind of dream i would like to
wake
 up to :))... so is there a way to run mac so on pc??? thanx

If you're into speed and the latest-and-greatest hardware, why not chuck
the
AMD and get a 867MHz G4. Better chip anyway.

--
Amber Rhea   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Go visit emulators.com.

(Amber, i like your new sig.)

Jeff


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Re: LC520 No boot

2001-10-03 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Rich S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: LC520 No boot


Can hear the power flow to the CRT upon switching on.  Nothing else happens
other than the faint clicking referred to below.

R.


OK. You power it on, tap the keyboard's power-on switch, and get nothing
but a click?

Jeff


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Re: Virus's

2001-10-02 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Hardy Menagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Virus's


Terry Earnest asked:

So are we (Vintagers) more or less safe from virus's??


I was tinkering with my Compacts yesterday. I have a Ehman removable
disk drive that came with two 45 MB disks. These disks had some vintage
programs, games and Sys. 6.0.5 on them but no virus protection. Iv'e had
them a while and used them in conjunction with a Plus and three SEs. I
never had any indication of a problem.

Yesterday, I decided to add a copy of Disinfectant 3.6 (the version I
have) to these disks. I had WDEF A, in the desktops and nVIRAA in the
Systems and Finders. WDEF A, had also migrated to the desktops of 8 out
of 12, 800k floppies and one Zip disk I had been using with these Macs.

So no we're not safe, these old viruses are still around and ready to
infect. Fortunately, the programs to eradicate them have already been
written.

Does anyone know if one can network an '000 - '030 machine to a later
machine and run a current version of Virex on them? Will it find these
old infections?


Fortunately, those old viruses can be eradicated by the old virus programs.
I had nVir a and WDEF on a couple old floppies which spread like wildfire
through half of my floppy-stored programs. I ran SAM by Symantec from
1992 and Disinfectant 1993. The first killed the virii while the second
verified
the deaths by coming up clean.

Jeff


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Re: Running Windows On My Mac (or vice-versa?)

2001-10-02 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: STEFAN DAEHLER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Running Windows On My Mac (or vice-versa?)


At school, we are regularly confronted with the generosity of companies 
or business-men who wish to part with their PCs, donating them to our 
institute. 
In my case, after fooling around with these machines for a while, I 
finally put them aside at some remote corner of a store-room. 
My only thought then was: One should simply format their drives and let 
them run a MacOS. 
I do not think it's possible, but I though dare to ask our experts: Is 
there a way to do so?

Best thanks for your comments.Steff



You bet there is. There are many newer Macs now using IDE hard drives
and if the media, the surface coating, is good, you can format them with
Drive Setup from Macintosh and make them do Mac..

Jeff


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Re: Running Windows On My Mac

2001-10-02 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Gene Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Running Windows On My Mac


 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:49:52 -0700
 Subject: Running Windows On My Mac
 From: J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Next project will be a Quadra/Performa pizza box motherboard in a IIci,

Details/pix when you're finished, please

-- 
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Aye, ye'll have them, then matey..
(A)

Jeff


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Re: LC520 No boot

2001-10-02 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Rich S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: LC520 No boot


OK, a new problem (giving up on the IIcx)

Have a LC520 that was running fine.  Yesterday, will not startup.  Removed
all drives, changed PRAM battery.

Get faint sound of clicking, but no drive spinup, etc.  No screen display
at
all.  Any suggestions?

R.


Although I hate to say it, these guys fail too. Something in the logic
board,
like the diodes as in my friend's LC 520. We had a resistor glowing like a
flashlight bulb until it went away for good. Before you send it flowers, be
sure
you have a good power source, cord, and your switch in the back is on
and the keyboard cord is good.

Jeff


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Re: IIcx schematic, turnoff

2001-09-28 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:12 AM
Subject: IIcx schematic, turnoff


Hi Listers,
A schematic of the startup circuit for the IIcx has just been uploaded to:
http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba/images/macIIcxsch.GIF.

There is a suspicious circuit.
I can't find any connection to the clear pin for a flip-flop (UL2-1).
If that pin goes (leaks) low then the IIcx will turn off!

The equivalent pin on the IIci is definitely connected.

Gamba
http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba


You wouldn't happen to have a cure-all for the no-sound blues,
would you?

Jeff


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Re: editing files on remote machines

2001-09-28 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Ernest E Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:00 AM
Subject: editing files on remote machines


(Can't remember which list this came up on, so please forgive the
cross-post, though that's not the worst of it... ;-)

I seem to remember someone asking if there was a way to edit a file on a
remote machine... eg, edit an html file on a web server from home.

According to this blurb on /.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/27/146214mode=thread, the
new version of VIM can edit files on an ftp server. VIM is Vi IMproved,
a vi emulator which runs on about every platform you can name, including
Macs. (vi, of course, is the standard UNIX text editor.)


If it's HTML, I keep pages on my home machine and the ISP's server.
I edit them locally then upload to the server with fetch 3.x. The act of
uploading
replaces the old file with the new. Simple and elegant in execution.

Jeff


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Re: A Look At A Therapeutic Session

2001-09-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: A Look At A Therapeutic Session


Judging by that MacStac behind you, you are a master computer stacker. ;)

BTW, anyone ever told you that you look kinda like Stacy Keach (the actor)?
--
Alex Allee  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Well, you've all been warned I am a Collector of the first water. That stack
is only part of what's in the vaults.

And, that could give me a new career
Actor/\impostor.  ;^)

J


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Re: A Look At A Therapeutic Session

2001-09-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Michael MacTao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: A Look At A Therapeutic Session


Jeff Garrison wrote:

That works for me!... I guess you won't be trying to install Windoze 
2k on that one any time soon.

Question: How tall are you? and the Gentle Giant?

Iechyd Da,
Andrew


I am 5 foot nine..

Jeff


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A Look At A Therapeutic Session

2001-09-24 Thread Jeff Garrison

Some of you may not approve of the movie, below. In a careful nod to the
events of the past two weeks, I apologize to those who may be offended.

I, for one, as well as the usually gentle giant you see in the movie, both
felt somewhat better after having finished the project, started weeks prior
to the sadness of recent weeks.

This is an .mpeg format movie. It will take some time to download, it's 4
megs long. Poor quality, badly edited, it's a returned favor to a friend who
gave much to me, to get me off the PeeCee for good. I hope it works for you.

http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/images/DeadPC.m1v

Jeff


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Re: Mac Plus

2001-09-21 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Alan Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Mac Plus



The plus rom cannot handle 1.44 mb disk drives. Did you change the rom
too?

Marten

No, didn't change the ROM. Tried it again with other disks and it won't
work
now. I used a 1.44 disk formatted to 800k when I originally tested it,
still
had the tiny bit of tape covering the hole on the left side. I have a few
disks like that floating around my room still from way back. Oh well. The
rest of it works really good though.

- Alan


Don't forget Athana International. These guys have new 800k floppy disks.
They were so interested in courting that business that they bought a Classic
II
from me to be sure they were formatted correctly.

And, although the Plus's IWM isn't ready to read 1.4MB floppies, a
superdrive
installed in a Plus will act as an 800k drive, reading only 800k disks and
wanting to format 1.4MB ones.

Jeff


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Re: Performa 600, Or Is It?

2001-09-21 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:06 PM
Subject: Performa 600


See what gestalt ID that thing returns, Jeff and anyone else who has one.
A true P600 will return 45, while a IIvi will return 44 and a IIvx will
return 48.


That's the puzzler. Tech Tool 1.x identifies it as 45, then goes on to say
it's
got a universal ROM-type. It won't run System 7.1 without the enabler, and
it remains a Macintosh when you go to the About This Macintosh box.
No real ID name comes forth.

What I NEED is a Performa 600 mobo to compare notes on the ROM numbers, and
other numbers on the boards.

Jeff


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Re: Mac Plus

2001-09-19 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
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To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Mac Plus


I've just found a Mac Plus in excellent shape with keyboard, mouse and all
the manuals at a thrift store.  Can anyone tell me what these are worth
these
days. I booted it up and it works fine.

Not much, a few dollars. I've seen them offered for free. In Europe
they tend to do a bout 20 euro's.
But their value cannot really be expressed in financial terms.

How times have changed.

Times didn't change that much. As long as you use old software, you'd
be surprised to see that you can be just as productive on a mac plus
as you'd be on a modern day iMac. The main difference is the plus and
the software from that time being less bloated.




I haven't stopped collecting Mac Plusses yet, either. =^)

I found one buried under a pile of Apple II's in someone's back  yard
last week. It was stained, streaked, rained-on and bedraggled, but
after a bleach-job, and a new floppy drive, it's joined the ranks of my
stable of hard drive-less,  floppy-only Macs. It's due for a special upgrade
soon. Will provide pix upon completion.

Jeff


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Re: IIsi Motherboard, Duhh....

2001-09-16 Thread Jeff Garrison


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Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: IIsi Motherboard


At 08:46 -0700 on 15/09/01, Jeff Garrison wrote:


Hey, C, S, What's the difference?!  ;^)

No more one-cup-of-coffee responses from ME.

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To Speed Up An All-In-One

2001-09-16 Thread Jeff Garrison

I've a friend with an LC 520. It's too slow for her, and I want to slide a
board
into it to make it go-faster. Other than a daughtercard, what motherboard
fits right in with no hacks and speeds it up?

JEff


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Re: Mac Plus Screen

2001-09-15 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Mac Plus Screen


Just looked in the Book Macintosh Repair  Upgrade Secrets by Larry
Pina. He uses 14 pages to describe the processes required to do this
properly. This after you get the case open.

I highly recommend getting this book if you plan on doing much inside
you compact Mac.

Opening the case; I lay the case face down on a soft pad and removing
the 5 screws, four in plain sight on the back and one under the
battery cover. You need a long (about 8 inches) T-15 torx
screwdriver. Opening the case can be difficult. A screwdriver WILL
DAMAGE the case. I use the edge of a steel ruler. Sometimes a sharp
blow will separate the cover.


In all the cases of Compacts I've disassembled, the method posted by someone
long ago has far-and-away been the best and least damaging:

Lay the compact face down on a towel folded double, or your bed.
Undo all screws. Place the torx driver into the head of one of the top,
handle-area, screws that is still in its cavity but completely loose,
and give  a sharp blow to the top of the driver. It pops the top loose.

Then you place a thumb on the plug socket and the SCSI  ports and
pry with your fingers. This is the least damaging way I've ever used.
And I've had 100% success using it.

Jeff


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Re: IIsi Motherboard

2001-09-15 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: John Kocijanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: IIsi Motherboard


Hello.  Will a IIsi accept a motherboard from any
other Mac?  Thanks.

John


Yes.
I've placed IIvx, Quadra 650 and Quadra 700 motherboards, with a little
trimming of the internal motherboard clips and back panel.

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Re: OT: this is funny. :)

2001-09-10 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: OT: this is funny. :)




Gregg Eshelman wrote:

 http://www.450productions.com/url/evilzug/workit/index.html

 And yes, it's clean. ;)



I believe this to be a very ingenious creation. My son and I both like this
one..

Jeff


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Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....

2001-09-09 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.


S... Does this mean you have a prototype on your hands?

Either way - cool!!


--
*** Amber Rhea ***



Hi, Amboo. Can't tell. Since it boots to the identity of the IIvm, I'd have
to say
yes. Wish I'd kept the Performa 600 mobo I just junked out. I'd be able to
compare the two. Hoping there's another lister who owns a P600 that writes
in to tell me how his mobo markings differ from mine.

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Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....

2001-09-09 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: b.b. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.


Here's a coupla google items:

MailBITS/26-Oct-92

Mark H. Anbinder writes, Those of you with an eagle eye may have
spotted a hint of an unknown Macintosh after this month's release of
System 7.1. The Installer script for 7.1, if
you click on the Customize button, will offer an option to install
system software for Macintosh IIvi/IIvm/IIvx. Is it the Ghost of
Macintosh Future? Nope... apparently Apple
planned a IIvm, but has said This string was included when a Mac
IIvm was in planning and was never pulled out. We'll be satisfied if
this is the worst bug left in System 7.1
following its beta-testing period.---
---

 Q What is a Macintosh IIvm? One
of the System Enabler files defines the computer in
gestaltMachineType 45. Is this just another name for the Performa
600? The Macintosh IIvx Developer Note says that the Performa 600
returns type 45.

 A Apple had planned to release a
model called the Macintosh IIvm but consumer testing showed that
users thought vm was an abbreviation for virtual memory. This was
about the same time Apple was about to introduce the Performa line.
So, to avoid confusion, the model became the Performa 600. There are,
therefore, three models in the v series: the Macintosh IIvi,
Performa 600 (Macintosh IIvm), and Macintosh IIvx. As you can see,
using the nonreleased  Macintosh IIvm designation confuses people,
so try to avoid it.




So it's really a IIvm, sorta;-)

b.b.



My stumbling block lies in the fact that it shows that it's a IIvm in the
About This Macintosh window. If an owner of a Performa 600 can show me where
their machine returns that bit of info in the About window, I'll drop the
case. Otherwise, I'm ready to do a screenshot and upload it somewhere
to prove my point..

Jeff


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Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....

2001-09-09 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
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Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.


At 15:23 -0400 on 09/09/01, Amber Rhea wrote:

S... Does this mean you have a prototype on your hands?

...or a Performa 600 whose name badge was either blank or totally worn
off...

p


Then explain why it returns the words, Macintosh IIvm in the About This
Macintosh window !!??!

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Re: Zenith EasyPC

2001-09-08 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: Zenith EasyPC


Listaurians,
Is there any affinity between a 512k Mac and the Zenith
Easy PC (512K)?
 All the best,
R. A. Cantrell


See this last page of the 7 page nod to the EaZy PC.

http://www.oz.net/~daveb/fbe_ezpc7.htm

Sadly, this was a 8088-based unit, although it could have been a
kindred brother to the Mac with it's little footprint.

Jeff


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Re: LC with twin floppies

2001-09-08 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Receipts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:00 PM
Subject: LC with twin floppies


I have a working LC (original), and the case has openings for two
floppies.  Right now it has one floppy and one hard drive.  Is it possible
to remove the internal hard drive and replace it with another floppy
drive?  I have plenty of external SCSI chassis for the HD.

I read once on some site that the LC was once available in that
configuration (two floppies internal), I think it said it was done for
schools.  Does the internal floppy controller handle two floppies?  How do
you get a cable to reach the second one?



See my page on that at, http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/oldmacs.htm

It pictures the SE and the LC I modified to run with only 2 floppy drives,
no hard drive.

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It Really IS a IIvm, pickle.....

2001-09-08 Thread Jeff Garrison

I brought home that machine I spoke of a few weeks back. It's now mine.
=^)

In the section, About This Macintosh, the wording says it is a IIvm.
I am going to run Tech Tool on it to see what Gestalt ID it returns. And,
I'm gonna check the serial number. 

Right now, I'm gonna see what Apple themselves may have on this thing.
Or, for that matter, anyone else out there who may have some info on a
Mac that's not supposed to exist, please chip in. I want some info.

Jeff


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Re: play mp3's on 020 or up Macs

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: macdrivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: play mp3's on 020 or up Macs


So I gave the program a spin on my Q630 that acts as a headless MP3 file
server on my LAN.  At first I couldn't get the file to unstuff on the Q630,
probably due to the older stuffit expander on the machine.  So I mounted
the
Q630 hd on my iMac and unstuffed it on the iMac.

I control the Q630 via timubktu as it is headless and I pared down the
extension set on it.  And the verdict is

Well kinda, sorta...I initially tried playing a 192kbps U2 With or Without
you and it played but heavily stuttered (like a motorcycle) and it took
about twice as long to play as the length of the song.

Sure the interface is crude, but the effort put into this is impressive.

Bhavesh



You have my impressedness. (Is that a word?)

My guess is your machine could do with more RAM  and RAM Doubler.

Jeff


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Re: LCIII and SPACE diet

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
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Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:48 AM
Subject: LCIII and SPACE diet


I put 7.5.5 on my LC III and the system folder was so fat that it 
bent the motherboard.  By moving up to 7.6.1, I dropped weight from 
50 megs down to a reasonable 20 or something.
Dale


I have a Graphite Fiber underlayment for your LC III motherboard.
It'll allow you to run 7.5.5 with ALL the goodies with absolutely zero
torsion evident on the motherboard.  

Jeff


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Re: Mac TV Madness (semi-OT)

2001-09-06 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Matt Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: Mac TV Madness (semi-OT)


Howdy Y'all,
Wow, didn't know there would be such a disparity in opinion as to the 
viability of the Mac TV as a computer.  Thank you to those who 
emailed me with suggestions and links.  I maxed out the ram and got 
the TV mode working.

I thought I would share something that I find interesting, as it may 
be of benefit to anyone out there with a Mac TV or TV tuner card in 
their Performa.  I seemed to recall an old usenet thread about Sony 
remote codes working on Mac TV tuner cards.  So I fired up my old 
Newton 130 (hey, no laughing;) and on it there was a program called 
Sony Remote that I had once used as a novelty to operate my Sony cd 
player.  Yup, it works to change the channels, volume, 
mute--everything but brightness and contrast.  

Should anyone out there want to try this, the Newton package is 
called Sony Remote, is dated 1994 and is attributed to Craig Richmond 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

--Matt

I don't own one, but it is pretty cool to think that that works.

It'd be good to own one of these Darth Vaders.

Jeff



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Re: Internet with OS 7.1

2001-09-04 Thread Jeff Garrison


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Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject: Internet with OS 7.1


How do I get OS 7.1 to recognize a modem and set it up for the internet?

What are the extensions I would need, and the version numbers?

Thanks
Will


System 7.1 recognizes and works with Open Transport 1.1.1
and O.T. 1.0. Go download them, as they make connection and
modem choice easy. No Init Strings to fight with.

Jeff


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Re: Putting old macs to work

2001-09-04 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Putting old macs to work


http://www.thebusinessmac.com/features/oldmacs.shtml



Check out the System 6 Heaven:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html




And, of course, I sent an email with the link to my site. I assume you did,
too,
Marten?

Jeff


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Re: transferring files

2001-09-01 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Tracy Keirns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: transferring files


I am setting up a Mac for someone that wants to upgrade.  She has an LC,
and
I am fixing up an LC 475 for her.  How do I transfer the files from her
hard
drive to the new computer?  I do not have an external drive, but do have
phone net connectors.  Can it be done fairly easily by setting up a phone
net connection?  I haven't looked into her hard drive yet, and might be
able
to transfer everything with floppies, but if things are too big to fit on
floppies then I need to find another solution.

Thanks.

Tracy


Phone net and local talk.  Set up the sending units hard drive with a
password
and ID, then connect the phone talk units to the printer ports, go into
chooser from the receiving unit and choose the sender's hard drive and drag
and drop to your heart's content.

Jeff


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Re: My first paper Mac. :)

2001-08-30 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
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Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:42 PM
Subject: My first paper Mac. :)


http://home.rmci.net/gregg1/paper2ci1.jpg
http://home.rmci.net/gregg1/paper2ci2.jpg

I used the poster mode of the Xerox DocuPrint M750
to print each page over four 8.5x11 sheets of
heavy card stock. Came out to what looks like 1/4
scale. The only bigger option I have is a nine sheet
poster. Probably still won't be full size.

It would be kind of neat to print out something like
the Color Classic from here
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/magazine/macuser/craft.html
then glue it onto real heavy cardboard or even
thin plywood and install the innards of a real
Color Classic. :)

Yup, I built the whole thing myself!

Now if only used HP DesignJet printer/plotters
weren't so dang expensive...


Good one, Greg!  This begs to be reshot, made clearer, so
we can have yet another site for new uses of old Macs.

Jeff


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Re: IIcx Problem

2001-08-30 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:08 AM
Subject: IIcx Problem


All,

Sorry about all the newbie questions, but...

I've just downgraded an IIcx w/17MB RAM from SSW 7.5.5 to SSW 7.1. I
have installed Sys. Update 3.0 and have installed MacTCP and the
appropriate
Ethernet card drivers. I have also installed Netscape 3.0.4 and upgraded
the
RAM to 20MB.

   Netscape comes up with a bomb after the loading screen and ~20 seconds
more have passed. It says, Bus error. Just before the bomb comes up, the
status bar reads: Connecting to site http://www.netscape.com;. Is there
any
way that I can fix that? I've tried all the usual remedies (reinstall
[Netscape and/or MacTCP], install updates, etc.)

TIA (a lot!),

Erik


Bus errors are software related. Did you get a good copy of 7.1?
You've made it harder on yourself by downgrading from 7.5.5 because it
has Open Transport, a much easier connectivity software with modem
profiles added in. My IIcx is running 7.5.5 very well.

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Re: Musings

2001-08-24 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Musings


 At the very least, 
we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the 
installed base from shrinking.


Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc.


We'd better advocate a little louder.

Didn't Apple marketshare just get to 3%?

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Re: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing...

2001-08-15 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Sean McGroty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing...



 I have been wondering how it or its sister product, the citrus-based
 OrangeClean would work on yellowed case parts.

OxyClean works well when cleaning cases. Not sure about the yellowing
though. Although, it seemed to work on my SE case.



I am STILL very committed to Clorox CleanUp Gel. After several applications
with a foam paint brush, I get near new-looking clean with no damage to the
case. It stays in the direct desert sun for a day , while applications are
added,then rinsed.

I've seen nothing work better.

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Re: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing...

2001-08-14 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Dana Sibera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing...

Just recently I came across a IIcx, sold as-is but probably not working, 
and I put my $2 bid on - the auction closed, I won, and it was shipped 
to me - with a 14 trinitron monitor that wasn't mentioned in the ad... 
that's the first bonus!

When it arrived however, as-is took on the full meaning. With the IIcx 
I bought a fair amount of silt in the bottom of the case (I can only 
gather it had been underwater at some time) and remnants of a mouse 
population - little bits of corrosion on the motherboard, a few strands 
of nestbuilding stuff, and droppings everywhere. A bummer I thought, but 
the HD looked dry  clean, and perhaps the 8 simms would be useful down 
the track..


I'm still kind of stunned, and wished I'd taken photos now of the 
process  original condition. That's a very determined little mac to 
survive all that, and for $2 it takes pride of place on my desk as an 
Interesting Story Artifact :D

be well!
danabanana



Wow, yes, that was was a great story! And congrats for breathing another
Mac, albeit under enormously risky circumstances, back into being.

Perhaps you'll name it Timex..?

Jeff


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Re: My List

2001-07-27 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: My List


He, Jeff, nice stash, interesting that you don't have any ppc macs or 
powerbooks as of yet.
I can understand that you try to get stuff as cheap as possible, so 
do we all, but every once in a while a competitive deal on a 
powerbook or ppc comes along. How come you didn't go after those?
BTW What is your favourite mac?

Greetings,

Marten



I had a PPC 6100/66 and I DO have an 8600/150, just didn't 
bring it up for OT reasons.

Today the motherboards came from O'regon. Now I have 5 PPC
6100/66's that once were Centris and Quadra 610's.

And in that list is a Powerbook 140 that I gave to my son, and a 520
that's mine.  

My favorite?

The Plus..


Jeff


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Re: Classic Battery

2001-07-27 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:46 AM
Subject: Classic Battery



   This is one of the questions that leads to another.

   I  can't find the answer to these on the FAQ page.

   1) How do I get to the battery in a Macintosh Classic?  I hope I 
don't have to take the back off it.  The FAQ has a link to batteries, 
be the page doesn't explain how to change the battery.

   Which leads to:

   2) There is a small panel above the power switch.  I removed it it 
hope of finding the battery there, but instead find a bunch of knobs 
and what looks somewhat like sound ports.
-- 



Sorry, Steve. Ya gotta take it apart. The battery is on the mobo.
The panel you found is the screen sizing and etc. adjustments.

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Re: Mac SE no boot disk

2001-07-26 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: Mac SE no boot disk




RomRider wrote:

 Your going to think i'm nuts by saying this but I had to give the side of
my
 40meg SCSI drive a
 good whack to get it to boot up after it had siezed up...

That is a stiction issue and is totally normal...we don't think you're
nuts.
I've done it myself several times.

-- Kyle H. Hansen



Many's a time I've danced around the room twist-shaking a stuck
hard drive. It looks goofy, but it frees the drive long enough to copy it's
contents to a better one. In one extreme case, I took the top off a  drive
and spun it by hand, with an external connected, to save the data.

Jeff


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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Nick Canterucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: my stash of Macs


Always interesting to see other forum members
collection of Macs..Here's mine

Lisa



sigh This one's bound to elude me forever.

Otherwise, you've got a well-rounded pack 'O Macs.
And none of US think you've gone off the deep end ;^)

Jeff


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Re: Handgun ban, personal attacks, The Power of Fear....

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: THE ROCK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks



There is no danger in a man liking guns, any more than there's
a danger in him expressing his liking of God, or religion in general.
Adding a sig is his way of showing his beliefs. It's OUR job to idly
observe the event, and maintain our own beliefs, either silently, or
vociferously as we  are compelled to by our fear of something different.

Tolerance for differences keeps one well rounded and balanced.

Intolerance is the key that opens the door to hate-based structures
such as Fascism, Racism, Apartheid and all those other anti-human
endeavors.

We need to guard our selves. Make certain we're above the intolerance.
All philosophies are welcome on the Internet, and here in this usually tight
group of Vintage Mac collectors, we are the model of tolerance. Because
we are Mac People.

Please try to bear this in mind when you are confronted with threads like
this one. It's better to display your tolerance for differences, and gather
 around what brought us all here to begin with:

It's The Mac, It's Supposed To Be Fun.


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Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: my stash of Macs



I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2.  I'm
wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it.  I have 4 G3 MT's that I am
gonna
sell, but that trade

-- Kyle H. Hansen


In MY case, Kyle, without batting an eye.

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Re: 128K and colour classic

2001-07-23 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Nick Canterucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:12 PM
Subject: 128K and colour classic


Hello fellow vintage mac heads..
Also does any one know anything about an upgrade in early 1984,
called monster mac...? which added a second MB type board, to
the mac's..giving the mac the option to connect an scsi HD...

I came across one..


It seems to me that IIRC, the Monster was one of, or THE, first in the
upgrade market for adding SCSI capability to the 512, in addition to adding
RAM, up to a total of 4MB.

Like my property of Apple Computer 512, this board is wide and fat. Mine
uses a mounting known as a Killy clip. A row of tall pins surrounding the
68000 chip that the board pushes down onto. The board in mine is called
a Mac Rescue.

Then the board also has the slots for more RAM and the connector for the
SCSI port which bolts in where the big PRAM battery used to go.

Jeff


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Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive

2001-07-23 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive



I added Lido to my tool box. Upon checking it out I see that it will 
only deal with the 0 SCSI bus. Doesn't see the 1 SCSI bus. Am I 
missing something? Is my 8100/80 too new?

TIA,

-- 
-
Bob Poland
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If you're in the HFS+  standard, it won't work.  With a mid-nineties
creation date, it probably IS too old to handle HFS+.

Jeff


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Re: LCIII Utilities Disk

2001-07-09 Thread Jeff Garrison


-Original Message-
From: roland drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: LCIII Utilities Disk


Dear List:

I have an old version of Norton Utilities (version 2.0) from which I would
like to make an Emergency Floppy Disk. The two Emergency disks which I have
are for earlier models than the LCIII. I tried creating a boot disk with a
minimal System 7.1 on  it, but I could include Norton Disk Doctor and Speed
Disk on the same floppy. There simply wasn't enough room. Is there a way to
create a boot disk and include these two applications on the same floppy?

Roland :)


No way to make more room, either, on a floppy.  You ma y make a little
headway by making a minimal install onto a floppy, then remove all but the
system AND finder. See what you can fit there, then.

Jeff


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