Re: how to join the mailing list?
Thanks for the info I'll get them to do that Sent from my iPhone On 27/02/2013, at 13:31, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote: Have your friend send an email to: viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com Chuck On Feb 26, 10:14 pm, sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers hope your all doing fine out there Actually one of my friend is willing to join the mailin list can anyone help me how can i get him to join?.hth Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi, I just saw message from Mike may from Sandero indicating the price would be competitive in line with what people were willing to pay. We were queried about this in the GPS list several months ago. So I would be surprised if this comes in any more than $50-$100. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:36 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi list, talking about presentation they said: February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Sorry for this question, but which time zone are they referring to? I would like to listen to the presentation, but since I'm from Slovakia (Central Europe) the time zones in the U.S. make me confused. Just to avoid list traffic, feel free to e-mail me at: maria.orovcik...@gmail.com Thank youvery much for your help. Maria On 27.2.2013 3:49, Richard Turner wrote: The only information I am aware of is what was in the announcement. I hope to be able to listen to the presentation on Friday in hopes more will be revealed. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net mailto:stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: And is there a price for the non-preview non-free version? I'm hopefully getting an Iphone some time within the next two weeks. so YAY! Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Speak To It or Speaktoit - Was: Did I get the wrong app?
Just a wondering JAWS user, is the app supposed to be pronounced Speak To It or Speak toyt? Holland's Person, Bill - Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour? - George Carlin, 1937 - 2008 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An update on my streaming issues
I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
911 app?
Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Seeing eye app
The link to that manual please? Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:08 AM Subject: Seeing eye app Hi all, Something I did not see while reading the seeing eye app's users guide is the ability to virtually walk a route, which is something that was available in human rare's Trekker. Once you found a starting point you could virtually walk in any direction, and discover POI's along the way. This was indispensable when I was looking for a neighborhood to live in another state. Perhaps it will be included in a future update. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map
Re: translation app
This all sounds wonderful, didn't know we could do so much; so what purpose, could one start to get the basics of a second language with it? pronunciation and all? difficult to think you'd get good annunciation from a 'bot voice mind. Thanks, Rh. - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:45 PM Subject: Re: translation app Hi Anouk, I agree with Sieghard's suggestion of SayHi Translate: • SayHi Translate ($0.99) by SayHi https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sayhi-translate/id437818260?mt=8 The main advantages of this translation app over others is the convenient user interface that lets you designate a primary and secondary language under your settings, then press a button to start/ stop speaking the phrase you want translated to the second language. What makes this translation app especially nice to use is the fact that your spoken phrase will be recognized and transcribed, and then the translated text will also be transcribed and spoken in the second language. The only thing that I would add is that the version of this app before the latest (3.0, 3.0.1, and 3.0.2) updates were released around Christmas time and after, was more accessible, so anyone who has this app with the previous version (e.g. 2.0.3 from July 24, 2012) should hold onto it, although the app is still quite usable. Here are the changes in the latest version: first, as before, there are two buttons for the selected primarly and secondary language at the bottom left and right corners of the screen. Instead of Record English Speech button, you'll just hear English button, or the equivalent for another language. In the previous version of the app you could flick to a Begin text entry for English button that would allow you to type your text entry for translation. The text entry buttons are still present as areas on the two large language buttons that sighted users can separately use -- they're just no longer announced to VoiceOver users. Instead, what you can do is flick to the conversation that you entered on the screen and double tap. This will bring up the spoken text with a text field announcement in the center of the screen, and you'll be able to delete the previous text (using the delete key) and send it off for translation by double tapping the Send key at the bottom right corner of your virtual keyboard. Note that if you want to escape this mode without typing or sending new text, you'll need to flick left to the Bubble action close button and double tap. Also, in the earlier versions if you double- tapped on one of the speech translation entries on screen you would get access to a series of menu items like Star (to favorite), Speak, Share, Copy, and Show more items immediately associated with the text, with Show more items giving you access to Delete and Edit options. Now, if you double tap on a text entry, the text field itself shows up in the center of the screen. VoiceOver does not always correctly receive focus, so you may need to touch the center of the screen if this happens. Then, if you flick left, you'll hear in succssion the buttons for Bubble action close, Bubble action delete, Bubble action play, Bubble action share, and Bubble action favorite. The close button gets you out of the text mode and returns you to the dialog screen, which is set out a bit like a text messaging screen. Play is like the Speak button that repeats the spoken text. Editing actions are performed by directly modifying text in the bubble. The good features of this app are the simple entry for spoken text and access to the translated text in either language. (I can press the button to start speaking in either the primary language at the bottom left, or the one for the secondary language at the bottom right, and have my spoken text transcribed and translated from either of the two languages.) It's an inexpensive app, and supports large numbers of languages, including many non-European languages, with spoken voices. It does require an internet connection to use. You can also have the app repeat speaking the translated phrase, or your original spoken comment, and copy the transcribed or translated text to clipboard or to an email or text message. This is especially handy for languages that do not use Latin characters. Once again, this was simpler in the version before the recent last version upgrade, but it's still usable. If you want to translate much larger blocks of text at one time, and are more likely to type or copy and paste in text, you may want to use a different translation app. I'd probably use one of the iTranslate apps by Sonico GmbH. I have their older apps with multiple voices that no longer seems to be available in the app store, but I think their present free app should also work OK. (You'd just have to buy additional voices, or have the VoiceOver voice read out the translation.) They use the Loquendo voices, which I like. HTH.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi, Then it will be interesting to see what Navigon is going to offer in the future that will benefit the blind. If they offer something that is as good or nearly as good as the Sendero thing,then at least for me, the choise is clear. /Krister 27 feb 2013 kl. 14:14 skrev Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com: On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on
Re: 911 app?
Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn and say Call 911? Andy -Original Message- From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 911 app?
There is one in the US app store called 911 and it is FREE. I don't know how accessible it is as I don't have an iPhone, just an iPod. The developer's name is Zodiac Interactive LLC. You might could try out this one to see if it is what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: request for best contacts manager app:
Hi i purchased multi edit and earlier impressions are satisfactory. Sent from my iPhone On 27-Feb-2013, at 10:00 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't started using it yet myself, so I don't know if it's the best or not, but Multi Edit has been recommended on this list a few times. Have you checked applevis.com yet? On 26/02/13 21:10, Srikanth Kanuri wrote: hi all, please guide me to the best contact manager app. I.E. i need to specifically create multiple contact groups. i tried I Contact pro, groups and ABC contact manager apps but none solved my purpose. Thanks in advance Srikanth -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Responding to a Siri question
You can also do a two finger double tap to reply. - Original Message - From: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: re: Responding to a Siri question Hi, You can double-tap the buttons corresponding to actions, or you can hold down the home key, then say your response. Cheers, Joseph - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:39:15 -0800 Subject: Responding to a Siri question I realize that the subject line appears backwards, but let me explain. Sometimes, after pressing the home button until it dings, I will then ask Siri a question, after which Siri responds in a way which requires a response from me. Am I then to just say yes, or no, or whatever is appropriate? Or, am I to again press the home button before responding? Thanks. Don Roberts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Can you send me details off list of how to join that list please? If that is if they discuss that App on a group list. Thank you very much. Kawal. On 27 Feb 2013, at 01:14 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on thislist: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
That is Pacific time. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, talking about presentation they said: February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Sorry for this question, but which time zone are they referring to? I would like to listen to the presentation, but since I'm from Slovakia (Central Europe) the time zones in the U.S. make me confused. Just to avoid list traffic, feel free to e-mail me at: maria.orovcik...@gmail.com Thank youvery much for your help. Maria On 27.2.2013 3:49, Richard Turner wrote: The only information I am aware of is what was in the announcement. I hope to be able to listen to the presentation on Friday in hopes more will be revealed. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: And is there a price for the non-preview non-free version? I'm hopefully getting an Iphone some time within the next two weeks. so YAY! Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Do we know if this particular app will draw it's map data from stored maps on the phone or will you require a data plan to access map information? Thank you. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-26, at 11:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: That is Pacific time. CSUN is in San Diego, California. Later, Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Feb 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote: Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM, It doesn't say what time zone? On Feb 26, 3:01 pm, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go tohttp://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN – No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to:http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visithttp://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-pagefor information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go tohttp://www.SenderoGroup.comor call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public
RE: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I sure would like to know what the e-mail address is to reply to in order to receive the test flight information? Does anyone have such information and is willing to share it? Thank you. DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:23 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM, It doesn't say what time zone? On Feb 26, 3:01 pm, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go tohttp://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN – No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to:http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visithttp://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-pagefor information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go tohttp://www.SenderoGroup.comor call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: how to join the mailing list?
or go to the link listed at the end of every message, i.e.: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. On 26/02/13 23:31, Chuck Dean wrote: Have your friend send an email to: viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com Chuck On Feb 26, 10:14 pm, sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: hello listers hope your all doing fine out there Actually one of my friend is willing to join the mailin list can anyone help me how can i get him to join?.hth Sent from my iPhone -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I believe the test flight program is completely full now, so do not worry about it. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 14:29, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: I sure would like to know what the e-mail address is to reply to in order to receive the test flight information? Does anyone have such information and is willing to share it? Thank you. DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:23 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM, It doesn't say what time zone? On Feb 26, 3:01 pm, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go tohttp://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN – No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to:http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visithttp://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-pagefor information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go tohttp://www.SenderoGroup.comor call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: 911 app?
Hi, She explained why in her message. She's worried in an emergency, Siri might not be able to understand her or, the server is down, etc. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn and say Call 911? Andy -Original Message- From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com mailto:serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is waterproof. It doesn't matter how many great features it has if it can't handle the being in the cold or rainy conditions. Marco Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-26, at 23:36, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is
RE: 911 app?
Hi Cheryl, I use an app called 1touch911 which I have on my home page right on top. I would have to double tap that icon, then I am presented with a choice to double tap 911 or the name of one of two people to contact in case of emergency. These people are entered in the settings. The app also locates your position. In case of error, it would simply open the app and you could back out without dialing 911. A person who is at risk of, let's say, serious drop in sugar level during the night could leave the phone and app open, unlock the screen and just double tap on call 911. Other than that, there is always the possibility of getting the 1touchcall which allows you to enter a number in the settings and that number gets called as soon as you double tap on the icon. This is even better in case of emergency for 911 but has the small risk of activating it by mistake. In either case, the icon is best on the home page. HTH Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com mailto:serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
There are several waterproof cases for the iPhone. I have an inexpensive case I use when I take it kayaking. On 27/02/13 09:29, Rocket wrote: What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is waterproof. It doesn't matter how many great features it has if it can't handle the being in the cold or rainy conditions. Marco Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-26, at 23:36, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Kim Casey *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM *To:* 'Kim Casey' *Subject:* Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
eAs stated before, they needed one hundred testers and over three hundred people responded in the first twenty four hours. They do not need any more testers. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:29 AM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: I sure would like to know what the e-mail address is to reply to in order to receive the test flight information? Does anyone have such information and is willing to share it? Thank you. DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:23 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Richard, The on line conference, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App. on , Friday,, March 1: 2:00 - 3:00 PM, It doesn't say what time zone? On Feb 26, 3:01 pm, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go tohttp://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN – No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to:http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visithttp://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-pagefor information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go tohttp://www.SenderoGroup.comor call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
RE: 911 app?
Hi Andy, It doesn't work that way. I am not sure why, but I tried it and still SIRI won't dial it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 911 app? Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn and say Call 911? Andy -Original Message- From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: 911 app?
I also have this Call 911 app from Tobias Werner and have posted about in the last round of discussion about the topic of emergency calling. I would agree that it is a good choice although there are a ton of such apps out there and I'm sure there are others which would work. I do like the fact that once this app is open you can simply shake the phone to get it to call. And no, somebody asked me last time, it will not call 911 if you shake the phone unless the app is open and in the foreground. In other words, if you open the app and then press the home key and the app is still in the app switcher it will not call if you shake the phone. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 911 app?
Hi Edward, thanks so much for those instructions. So I should upgrade to vm 5 from 3. Then install windows 7 from inside of vm and once that is done then I can install my windows screenreader from inside vmward. Just trying to make sure I have the sequence right. and that I can do all of it without sighted assistance assuming I have the windows 7 serial number. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I also have this Call 911 app from Tobias Werner and have posted about in the last round of discussion about the topic of emergency calling. I would agree that it is a good choice although there are a ton of such apps out there and I'm sure there are others which would work. I do like the fact that once this app is open you can simply shake the phone to get it to call. And no, somebody asked me last time, it will not call 911 if you shake the phone unless the app is open and in the foreground. In other words, if you open the app and then press the home key and the app is still in the app switcher it will not call if you shake the phone. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fwd: 911 app?
Hi please disregard. I accidentally responded to the wrong message. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com Date: February 27, 2013, 10:56:18 AM CST To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 911 app? Hi Edward, thanks so much for those instructions. So I should upgrade to vm 5 from 3. Then install windows 7 from inside of vm and once that is done then I can install my windows screenreader from inside vmward. Just trying to make sure I have the sequence right. and that I can do all of it without sighted assistance assuming I have the windows 7 serial number. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I also have this Call 911 app from Tobias Werner and have posted about in the last round of discussion about the topic of emergency calling. I would agree that it is a good choice although there are a ton of such apps out there and I'm sure there are others which would work. I do like the fact that once this app is open you can simply shake the phone to get it to call. And no, somebody asked me last time, it will not call 911 if you shake the phone unless the app is open and in the foreground. In other words, if you open the app and then press the home key and the app is still in the app switcher it will not call if you shake the phone. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Andy. In that case we can expect a price of more than $50. Personally if it would meet my needs and allow me to travel using a single app and it's completely VoiceOver friendly then I would easily pay $70 or $80 for it. On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on thislist: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus,
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I think we should stop guessing the price of this yet to come app. I am sure there will be plenty of discussion about the price once the app is released. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi Andy. In that case we can expect a price of more than $50. Personally if it would meet my needs and allow me to travel using a single app and it's completely VoiceOver friendly then I would easily pay $70 or $80 for it. On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote: On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI’s from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUNaccess! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I hope to get an Iphone with Sprint as my carrier, and hope to have it some time in the next two weeks. After that, you can bet Im going to test every GPS app around, including this one. Maybe what we should be asking ourselves here is not whether this is a ghetto product, for the blind, but whether there's universal access built into it, so that sighted people would use it and find it valuable as well? Then, the question becomes not how much can a blind person afford, but rather, What is the fair market value for this app, based on a general market? It seems to me that, even as we demand shrilly that Apple and other companies build in universal access to their products, so should Sendero or whatever other ghetto of the blind, products come out build in universal access. Let's depolarize this argument. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Seeing eye app
Exactly, Still I'm looking forward to listening to podcasts and seeing what others think of the app when it coes out so I can decide whether or not to buy it. I think having map data from more than source is brilliant but realise you can only have one source selected at once. It would be good to be able to have pois collected from more than one source but guess this would be confusing as you would hear some points twice. Louise. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 27 February 2013 4:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing eye app I think it is good to remember that this will be a 1.0 app, so we can't necessarily expect all the features of the mature apps from other platforms to be present in this one. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I wonder what the people finder app is like and how it works. Also was just wondering if anybody on list has received an email to say they were selected as a tester. Take care, Louise. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 26 February 2013 10:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go to http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN - No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to: http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2 at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visit http://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-page for information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go to http://www.SenderoGroup.com http://www.SenderoGroup.com or call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Audible.com App
Hello all, Recently, Audible.com updated their iPhone app. The app includes a sleep timer that will allow for listening but will automatically turn off the book after the desired amount of time (e.g., 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, etc.). One would choose the desired amount of time with a one finger flick to a combo box. After the recent update, the sleep mode button is not located in the lower left of the play screen. When clicking on it to open, the time choices are now listed and one performs a a hold and tap to select the desired time. However, the device does not turn off the book in the desired time. I've tried several different ways to get it to recognize the sleep time, but it doesn't seem to work. Is anyone else having similar problems? If not, what am I doing incorrectly? Thank you, Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
The only disappointing thing is that for the first realise it is north America only. Still fingers crossed it will be updated for the rest of the world soon! Louise. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 27 February 2013 6:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. For more information go to http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm New 2013 Sendero products Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks. New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches Not going to CSUN - No problem! Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun and listen into the following presentations. February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People Finder App March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App Just go to: http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2 at the scheduled session time. If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. Visit http://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-page for information on how to get your computer set up for the session. For more information on all of these items, go to http://www.SenderoGroup.com http://www.SenderoGroup.com or call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810 Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
That could get very expensive. I suggest instead, that you check out apple vix , Which is a great resource for people have already tested apps and giving their opinions. Here's a link: http://www.applevis.com/ Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I hope to get an Iphone with Sprint as my carrier, and hope to have it some time in the next two weeks. After that, you can bet Im going to test every GPS app around, including this one. Maybe what we should be asking ourselves here is not whether this is a ghetto product, for the blind, but whether there's universal access built into it, so that sighted people would use it and find it valuable as well? Then, the question becomes not how much can a blind person afford, but rather, What is the fair market value for this app, based on a general market? It seems to me that, even as we demand shrilly that Apple and other companies build in universal access to their products, so should Sendero or whatever other ghetto of the blind, products come out build in universal access. Let's depolarize this argument. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hello Mark, I don't think there is much point in making a big deal out of the fact that the Seeing Eye app is designed with the blind user in mind and has features which may not be of much value to a sighted person. If a sighted person comes up to an intersection they do not need their GPS app to tell them that the intersection is a 3-way or 4-way intersection or other information which a sighted person can confirm with one glance. Sendero states the following: The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. I think the important parts here are accessible, normal navigation features and features unique to blind users. There is no doubt that a blind user requires more spoken information from a GPS solution which is exactly the reason why so many of us are not using apps like Navigon exclusively. Navigon displays a map and gives some voice feedback. It's perfectly adequate for a sighted person, but most blind users supplement an app like Navigon with other apps like Ariadne or Sendero LookAround to get additional information. From the description of the new app I have a feeling that apps like Sendero LookAround or Ariadne will no longer be required or maybe rarely required because the Seeing Eye app will combine the normal navigation features one would expect from an app like Navigon with the unique features a blind person needs and which so far have not been very available because even using Ariadne together with Navigon was not as good a solution as, for example, the Trekker or MobileGeo was. I am quite optimistic that an app like Seeing Eye combined with the accessibility and what's more important the stability of the iOS platform will indeed be the answer/solution we all have been waiting for. Let's just all wait what the price will be, but I doubt it will be so low that sighted people in great numbers would buy it instead f less expensive apps like Navigon or even free ones like Google Maps or the native Maps app which for many people are perfectly sufficient. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: flexy
I like the new interface. I only have problem with activating the keyboard with single tap. I can never do it in one attempt. I had a question too. Can you tretrievethe texxtafter using it in sending naan eal or pasting in some other program? How. Thanks and regards On 2/24/13, Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, don't agree. I love the new way to get the menu. I alleys had problems with the other way. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Tess tess...@gmail.com wrote: Man, is there absolutely no way we can revert flexy back to the way it was originally to where we can double tap or tap the top of the screen to get to the contact info? I hate this 2 finger swipe up to get to the contact info. I am all the time putting in random numbers or letters in my messages when trying to get to the contact info with this swipe up crap. Sorry if this message is coming across is rude, not my intent, it is just that I like flexy, and I fly across the board with typing on it, it is just swiping up to get to the contact info that is driving me nuts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com mailto:serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's
Re: Looking for a reminder program with unusual scheduling options:
I love the alarmed app! I believe the paid version also gives you day minders. Say for example, you want to be reminded something every 2 hours from 8 AM to 4 PM. Great for medication or something. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/alarmed-reminders-+-timers/id371886784?mt=8 Traci 1 step, 2 step, ... 1,311 steps! I can do the BIG CLIMB 2013, with your support. Our efforts will help make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers. Please give to the Leukemia Lymphoma Society. Learn more donate here. Thank you. http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250 On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Jeff Samco jsa...@jps.net wrote: Try the Alarmed app. There's a free version which, I think, is pretty much full-featured. The pay upgrade adds more alarm sounds. I use it to set appointments for the second Wednesday of each month and it works perfectly. It also has a number of other options like pre-alarm settings, nag or short-term repeat options, etc. And, it is very VO friendly. HTH, Jeff At 06:38 AM 2/26/2013, you wrote: I have yet to find a reminder program with the type of scheduling options I really want. I would like to be able to schedule reminders for example for the third Wednesday of the month every month or semi monthly or quartly etc. you get the idea. The second feature I would like to see is to be reminded before the actual reminder date for example every day starting 3 days in advance. Yes I am sure if I struggle with calendar and several other different reminder programs I can possibly make these things happen but wondering if there is a program out there with that kind of flexibility. Thanks in advance. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2641/5635 - Release Date: 02/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Marco, Depending on what case you buy, the iPhone can be as waterproof as you want it to be from being somewhat splash proof to being fully capable of going down to 100 feet during scuba diving. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rocket Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is waterproof. It doesn't matter how many great features it has if it can't handle the being in the cold or rainy conditions. Marco Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-26, at 23:36, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Krister, Considering how relatively little Navigon has done so far I wouldn't hold my breath. Yes, the app is pretty accessible, but there is a difference between whether I can use it and whether it has the features I want or need. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi, Then it will be interesting to see what Navigon is going to offer in the future that will benefit the blind. If they offer something that is as good or nearly as good as the Sendero thing,then at least for me, the choise is clear. /Krister 27 feb 2013 kl. 14:14 skrev Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com: On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one price. Andy] From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: 'Kim Casey' Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on the phone. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com mailto:serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people
Re: 911 app?
Good idea, though still dependent on Siri getting a connection and working. - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: Re: 911 app? Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn and say Call 911? Andy -Original Message- From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 911 app? Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put something like this on the home screen? What I'm thinking about is this: if I were to wake up in the middle of the night and had to call 911 say because I was sick, I probably wouldn't feel much like doing a bunch of tapping to get to phone and put in the number and hit call. Even if I could speak it, maybe I wouldn't be understandable to siri or siri might do its little tick-tick-tick and do nothing or say: How can I help you? I'd like something on my home screen that I could double tap. But I wouldn't want to double tap it by accident so it would have to require me to do it a second time to confirm or else it would have to be an app I would open first and then double tap to make the call. That still would be easier than doing it from the phone app. Does anybody know a way to do this? And yes, I do know about landlines vs cell phones for 911 so that's not what i'm asking about. Also, i don't have health problems that are causing me to want this; I'm just thinking about possibilities. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Info about the Seeing Eye app
Hello all, There has been lot of supposition about this app. Here is a link that has the facts. http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Responding to a Siri question
Hi, you can also do a two-finger double-tap and Siri will listen to whatever your response is. -- Raul A. Gallegos I must say I'm glad I know sign language, It's pretty handy. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 2/26/2013 9:32 PM, Fred Olver wrote: My experience is that usually there is a button or buttons on the screen which you can activate to get the information you want. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:39 PM Subject: Responding to a Siri question I realize that the subject line appears backwards, but let me explain. Sometimes, after pressing the home button until it dings, I will then ask Siri a question, after which Siri responds in a way which requires a response from me. Am I then to just say yes, or no, or whatever is appropriate? Or, am I to again press the home button before responding? Thanks. Don Roberts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6129 - Release Date: 02/24/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Chuck, Where did you see that maps would be included on the phone? I ask that because I was party to a discussion on their gps-talk list where Mike May said that maps on the phone is not included at this time in this release. Several people said they would like that feature, but I wonder why Mike would say it isn't there if the website says it is? were you maybe reading about the pc app for Windows or the notetaker apps which do have maps on the device? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Audible.com App
Hi Craig, I just tried this and it works fine for me. I first tried the Sleep Timer with End of Chapter as a choice since I happened to have only 3 minutes left of the chapter. The chapter finished and then the app stopped playing, I went back in the app and started playing and it resumed with the new chapter. I then went back to Sleep Timer and selected 15 Minutes because it's the shortest time interval and once again playback faded out after 15 minutes as always and the book stopped playing. I am not sure what you mean by having to do a hold and tap. All you have to do is double tap the Sleep Timer, then find your desired time and double tap on it. If you start at the top you will notice that the first option is Off and Voiceover will read it as Selected, Off. If I then, for example, double tap on 15 Minutes which is the next choice, the sleep timer screen closes and you are back on the normal main page of the app. If I then again double tap on Sleep Timer and review the choices, Voiceover will now say Selected, 15 Minutes. Hope this helps, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Borne Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com App Hello all, Recently, Audible.com updated their iPhone app. The app includes a sleep timer that will allow for listening but will automatically turn off the book after the desired amount of time (e.g., 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, etc.). One would choose the desired amount of time with a one finger flick to a combo box. After the recent update, the sleep mode button is not located in the lower left of the play screen. When clicking on it to open, the time choices are now listed and one performs a a hold and tap to select the desired time. However, the device does not turn off the book in the desired time. I've tried several different ways to get it to recognize the sleep time, but it doesn't seem to work. Is anyone else having similar problems? If not, what am I doing incorrectly? Thank you, Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Chuck, I had read that info before when the announcement first came out. It does not say that the 2 map sources, osm and Navteq are available on the device. It says that the app draws from two map sources, which does not mean they are on the device. Given what Mike May said, I think you are reading something in to that announcement that is not stated and was, in fact, refuted by the company's ceo. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Charles, I am not sure what part of the website you found that talks about maps being on the phone. Maybe it's in the user guide which I admit I haven't read and probably won't read until I have the app, but here is the entire blurb I found on Sendero's website about the Seeing Eye app and I don't see any reference to whether maps will be on a server or stored on the phone. Maybe for some of those who haven't bothered going to the website this will be useful and I have also included the link to the user manual below the app description for those who want to read it: Announcing Seeing Eye GPS App Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. Thank you to all of those who have volunteered to participate in the preview. We have received a more enthusiastic response than we anticipated, close to 300 people in less than 24 hours, and we are no longer able to accept any more entries and will randomly select 100 from the 300 who have already signed up. Seeing Eye GPS has maps for North America only. Once we release Seeing Eye GPS, we will be working on a version for UK and Europe customers. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. . Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. . At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. . Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. . There are three choices for POI data (Navteq, Foursquare, and OSM) and two map sources (Navteq and OSM). . Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. . When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. . Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. . Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. Check out the User's Guide for details on all features: http://www.senderogroup.com/support/supportseeingeye.htm Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on the phone. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take
Re: the weather channel app
I just downloaded the weather channel app and it seems pretty accessible. Has anyone else tried this app. I was just wondering what others think of it. JoJo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Chuck and Mary, I agree with Mary, unless they say in the user guide that maps are stored locally on the phone there is no reference to that anywhere on the website. Since Mary seems to have more insight in that due to the discussion group she was on and because Sendero LookAround also uses data to access map information on a server I would guess it is more likely the Seeing Eye app will do so as well at least to begin with. Chuck, if you saw something contrary, could you quote the section from the website, the link you provided goes to the same basic description I pasted in my previous message and it mentions nowhere I can see that maps are on the phone. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:31 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Sieghard, The users' guide makes no mention of map storage one way or the other. Mike was very clear that this is the first iteration of the app, and they're going to be listening to user feedback to help guide further app development. There are features that users of the other Sendero products are familiar with, such as transit feeds and virtual exploration that are not in this version of the app. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iPhone 4S repair solutions
Hi Cristobal, If you google official iPhone repair you find a bunch of stuff. Here is one I thought sounded promising since they do say they have many locations for walk-in repairs in addition to doing mail-in rpeiars: http://www.iFixYourI.com I guess the only thing one has to be careful about in case you mail it in would be to check and make sure the service is genuine so you don't end up mailing you riPhone to somebody who then turns around and sells it on eBay. But you can probably google reviews about places you find and, maybe they do have a location nearby. Maybe even check your Yellow Pages for cell phone repair places and just call around and ask if they do iPhone repairs. You could also write to todayin...@gmail.com and ask Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast to give you some recommendations. I seem to remember he talked about this before. I bet if you were near one of those walk-in locations they could probably fix it for $20 or $30 in no time. Good luck, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Mary, I totally look forward to being able to buy the app, but I also expect that this is not going to be the first and final release which has every feature and lacks every bug. Let's give Sendero a chance, they have to start somewhere and I think there comes a time when an app like this has to be thrown out into the great wide world. They could continue with a small group of beta testers for another year and maybe add a few more features and squash a few more bugs, but I'm sure we all benefit from it now and can help Sendero to improve it in future updates by providing constructive criticism and feedback on problems as well as feature requests. Sendero received enough bashing because of the limited functionality and as some people seem to think exorbitant price of Sendero LookAround which incidentally has often helped me and definitely has been worth the $5 I spend for it in the last 2 or so years. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, The users' guide makes no mention of map storage one way or the other. Mike was very clear that this is the first iteration of the app, and they're going to be listening to user feedback to help guide further app development. There are features that users of the other Sendero products are familiar with, such as transit feeds and virtual exploration that are not in this version of the app. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VizWiz?
Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VizWiz?
Hello Debbie: Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a picture of a can I took on Saturday. I also have IQ engines checked. Please let us know if that information proves useful to you. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: VizWiz?
Thanks Patrick, Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the Web Worker option. I think I may stick with TapTap See! Thank you! Debbie _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neazer Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VizWiz? Hello Debbie: Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a picture of a can I took on Saturday. I also have IQ engines checked. Please let us know if that information proves useful to you. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VizWiz?
Hello Debbie: I am sorry that you got such a slow response from vizwiz. that is not the norm. Try switching on IQ engine and see if you get a better response. I am a fan of both Tap Tap See and vizwiz. Having options never hurts :). Let us know if switching on IQ engines works for you if you try it. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the Web Worker option. I think I may stick with TapTap See! Thank you! Debbie From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neazer Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VizWiz? Hello Debbie: Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a picture of a can I took on Saturday. I also have IQ engines checked. Please let us know if that information proves useful to you. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Advancing through a Chapter with the New Audible App
Hi Craig, You can use the headphone controls to rewind and fast forward. You can also double-tap the Home button when the iPHone is locked to bring up the player controls, which include Rewind and Fast Forward. The Next and Previous Track commands that also appear move you to the next and previous chapters. Actually, you press Previous once to go to the beginning of the current chapter and split-tap twice to go to the previous chapter. Best, Anna On Feb 26, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. I have not yet updated the Audible app to its latest version. I believe the rewind and fast forward buttons have been removed from the latest version of the app. Does this mean that there is no longer an easy way to advance in a chapter? I rarely use the fast forward button, but it is sometimes helpful, hence, my question. Thanks for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Garage band
Looking for other users of this ap. Would love to talk off list Peace Stancil Tootle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An update on my streaming issues
Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem still persists. It's a puzzle, all right. My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple weeks, but I suppose it could have been from the same, troublesome, batch of phones. If there are no diagnostic steps that the engineers recommend, I'll request another repair. The strange thing is that I know a few people with iPhone 5s and they mostly complain about the same problems. There's only a lucky few that I've encountered who have no streaming problems at all. So I would have chalked this up to an iPhone 5 defect, and yet there are people who can happily stream all day long. Cheers. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Don and Grant, Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would be a good way to make sure it is not a problem with your particular WiFi setup/router. It's even possible that another iPhone whether a 4S or 5 could be working well on your WiFi and that it simply comes down to some sort of incompatibility between your particular iPhone 5 and your router. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but I have also seen enough strange things going on with computers and networks that I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Have you ever just gone to an Apple Store and asked them to connect the phone to their WiFi and then stream something that you know doesn't work well at home? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to flow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com http://www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com mailto:serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean chuckd...@icloud.com mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the costs. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille
The Inquisitor Audiogame Adventure
well, anyone try this? The Inquisitor Audiogame Adventure Will of steel, heart of stone, intelligence as sharp as a knife and wisdom deep as oblivion. The inquisitor is called to investigate an obscure case, beyond heresy, that reveals a new face of Evil. He must tackle many arduous tasks. He must make many painful choices. He must take on terrible creatures. But his burning determination will overcome the Plague and his worst nightmares. == - Dubbing in english, latin and italian - Original character and story (really a bad guy...) - Rich 3D audio environments (best in home theatre 5.1) - From 6 to 8 hours of gameplay - Beautiful and well-acted dialogues - More than 21.000 words dubbed for every language! more info pleasse go to: http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/games/inquisitor-audiogame-adventure Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: VizWiz?
HI Patrick, I tried VizWiz again this time using the IQ engine and I got an answer almost immediately. I guess it depends on what you're asking also as to which source would be the best. I'm going to work with this some more. Thanks! _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neazer Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VizWiz? Hello Debbie: I am sorry that you got such a slow response from vizwiz. that is not the norm. Try switching on IQ engine and see if you get a better response. I am a fan of both Tap Tap See and vizwiz. Having options never hurts :). Let us know if switching on IQ engines works for you if you try it. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the Web Worker option. I think I may stick with TapTap See! Thank you! Debbie _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neazer Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VizWiz? Hello Debbie: Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a picture of a can I took on Saturday. I also have IQ engines checked. Please let us know if that information proves useful to you. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I read through the available documentation. It says nothing about on-board maps in the user guide either. Sorry Chuck but in correcting someone you should make sure that you are indeed correct yourself. DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Charles, I am not sure what part of the website you found that talks about maps being on the phone. Maybe it's in the user guide which I admit I haven't read and probably won't read until I have the app, but here is the entire blurb I found on Sendero's website about the Seeing Eye app and I don't see any reference to whether maps will be on a server or stored on the phone. Maybe for some of those who haven't bothered going to the website this will be useful and I have also included the link to the user manual below the app description for those who want to read it: Announcing Seeing Eye GPS App Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. Thank you to all of those who have volunteered to participate in the preview. We have received a more enthusiastic response than we anticipated, close to 300 people in less than 24 hours, and we are no longer able to accept any more entries and will randomly select 100 from the 300 who have already signed up. Seeing Eye GPS has maps for North America only. Once we release Seeing Eye GPS, we will be working on a version for UK and Europe customers. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation features plus features unique to blind users. . Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. . At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are announced. . Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of the streets. . There are three choices for POI data (Navteq, Foursquare, and OSM) and two map sources (Navteq and OSM). . Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. . When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and updated turn information is announced. . Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the LookAround Wand. . Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. Check out the User's Guide for details on all features: http://www.senderogroup.com/support/supportseeingeye.htm Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on the phone. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain
RE: An update on my streaming issues
Hi Grant, I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get to try any replacement phone they give you before you walk out of the store. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem still persists. It's a puzzle, all right. My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple weeks, but I suppose it could have been from the same, troublesome, batch of phones. If there are no diagnostic steps that the engineers recommend, I'll request another repair. The strange thing is that I know a few people with iPhone 5s and they mostly complain about the same problems. There's only a lucky few that I've encountered who have no streaming problems at all. So I would have chalked this up to an iPhone 5 defect, and yet there are people who can happily stream all day long. Cheers. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Don and Grant, Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would be a good way to make sure it is not a problem with your particular WiFi setup/router. It's even possible that another iPhone whether a 4S or 5 could be working well on your WiFi and that it simply comes down to some sort of incompatibility between your particular iPhone 5 and your router. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but I have also seen enough strange things going on with computers and networks that I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Have you ever just gone to an Apple Store and asked them to connect the phone to their WiFi and then stream something that you know doesn't work well at home? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in mind. Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a contrary opinion. Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you are stuck with online maps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:10, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete with my sighted peers
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
This is my point; if Sendero is smart, they'll built an app that EVERYONE will want, even if blind people most of all, and then they can charge less for it, reaching a broader market. Supply and demand. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Unless I'm missing something, the last time I checked, NaviGon was under $50 for maps that covered some subset of North America. I don't think it would cost you a couple of hundred dollars unless you got maps for a large part of the world. On 27/02/13 20:34, David Chittenden wrote: I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you are stuck with online maps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:10, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no unlimited data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if that has bothered anybody. J Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should be made more accessible rather
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I too am interested in this app. I also like what I have heard about the app from APH called Near By Explorer. It is only on the Android platform to the best of my knowledge right now. There is a great demo of it on blind-geek-zone.net. Its cost is about $100.00. I think that is reasonable. It is targeted to a smaller market than the main stream and I'm sure there is quite a bit that goes into research and development of the app. I think that app sets the bar right now, we'll see how this one compares. Maybe it will set a new standard, maybe it won't measure up or maybe it will be quite comparable. I think Raul put it well summing up how our community will react to whatever the price of this app. Both sides need to be reasonable, both the consumer and the people selling the app and setting the price. On 2/27/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I'm missing something, the last time I checked, NaviGon was under $50 for maps that covered some subset of North America. I don't think it would cost you a couple of hundred dollars unless you got maps for a large part of the world. On 27/02/13 20:34, David Chittenden wrote: I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you are stuck with online maps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:10, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be on a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am also not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G and even download or stream the occasional podcast. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fenton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hello. The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data plan. The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for using the app
BARD app coming
On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An update on my streaming issues
I too have been able to stream just fine on LTE and on an Airport express router as well as some other routers with two different IPhone 5 units, one a CDMA and one a GSM model. On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get to try any replacement phone they give you before you walk out of the store. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem still persists. It's a puzzle, all right. My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple weeks, but I suppose it could have been from the same, troublesome, batch of phones. If there are no diagnostic steps that the engineers recommend, I'll request another repair. The strange thing is that I know a few people with iPhone 5s and they mostly complain about the same problems. There's only a lucky few that I've encountered who have no streaming problems at all. So I would have chalked this up to an iPhone 5 defect, and yet there are people who can happily stream all day long. Cheers. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Don and Grant, Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would be a good way to make sure it is not a problem with your particular WiFi setup/router. It's even possible that another iPhone whether a 4S or 5 could be working well on your WiFi and that it simply comes down to some sort of incompatibility between your particular iPhone 5 and your router. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but I have also seen enough strange things going on with computers and networks that I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Have you ever just gone to an Apple Store and asked them to connect the phone to their WiFi and then stream something that you know doesn't work well at home? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: BARD app coming
Hi, Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :) Courtney Sent from my iMac On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Mark, I get your point, but the fact is that it is highly unlikely that Sendero's Seeing Eye app will appeal to tens of thousands of sighted users. Sighted people to a large extend want visual apps with pretty maps in colour and 3D, street view and all sorts of stuff. They do want voice guidance to the extend that while they are driving they may not want to always have to look at the device to know they have to turn left in 300 feet. But I don't think they want voice guidance only which is what we want and the more information (to a degree) the better. I bet that an overwhelming majority of GPS usage by sighted people is in a vehicle and for the occasional time that they may use it while walking they are paying attention to what they see around them and don't want to hear that there is a 711 at 2 o'clock which they have already seen 2 minutes earlier. I have often walked around with sighted friends while I had my GPS on and most of the time they saw our destination long before my GPS told me that we were now 100 feet away and when we reached the destination they had no need to hear that it was on the left or the right. From what I read it appears we can expect an app with a price of around $100 or a bit less and in my opinion that is more than fair, after all, most people on this list who own an iPhone spend almost that much on their monthly plan and even those who have a cheap plan spend it in 2 months. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! This is my point; if Sendero is smart, they'll built an app that EVERYONE will want, even if blind people most of all, and then they can charge less for it, reaching a broader market. Supply and demand. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I guess that's a theoretical question, then: If Sendero made their app prettier, more visually appealing, more eye candy, with maps and whatever, would it cost too much in terms of labor and drive even the fair market price up, or would it drive the price up to target an app for a backwater, splinter market like the blind Iphone users? I have no hard answer to this, just curious. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: BARD app coming
She said it will probably be released around the time of the conventions in July. -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support http://www.fedoraoutlier.com 888-958-6979 ext.3801 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :) Courtney Sent from my iMac On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Yes, you are missing a very big something. It is called cost amortisation, and it is done by every company. Amortisation means splitting fixed costs across the entire base. In North America, Navigon costs $30 to $50. In NZ, on the other hand, Navigon costs $70 USD for maps which are significantly smaller than even your regional maps. This is because NZ's available market is much smaller, so there are very few customers to amortise the fixed costs across. In this case, the fixed costs are the licensing fees which the map software app provider must pay to the map creators for each independent copy of the maps. What usually happens is the navigation app manufacturer pays a quarterly or annual fee that has a multi-thousand (probably in the $50'000 to $100'000 range) which permits the individual copy price to be around $5. The higher the licensing fee, the lower the individual map fee. Upgrades, of course, will be either included in the annual license, or will be extremely low. Sendero, on the other hand, can only expect a tiny user base, so the amortisation of annual licensing fees will be significantly more expensive. Considering licensing fees I have seen for OCR software, I wouldn't be surprised if the amortised cost per user for the license is $50 annually. I also wouldn't be surprised if the individual map fee is over $100 per at that low annual licensing fee. It is all about economies of scale and size of customer base. Internet maps, on the other hand, have very low licensing fees, so Sendero's price covers their development costs for the app, including Seeing Eye's contributions, Apple's 30% fees, future development projection costs, and profit margins. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:41, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I'm missing something, the last time I checked, NaviGon was under $50 for maps that covered some subset of North America. I don't think it would cost you a couple of hundred dollars unless you got maps for a large part of the world. On 27/02/13 20:34, David Chittenden wrote: I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you are stuck with online maps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 15:10, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. ATT is the best option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last November I ended up getting a SIM from T-Mobile, I believe it cost me about $45, they charged me $30 for the SIM and $11 to put some money on it. On Maui my friend and I used Navigon all the time because she has a pretty bad sense of direction and since we used it exclusively in the car it worked beautifully, it was always accurate and of course I had downloaded the maps for Hawaii before leaving so it was no problem. I completely agree that the option to download maps to the phone would be ideal. But as I also said, it's their first version and as long as the updates keep on coming and we see user feedback incorporated in these updates I have no problem at all to be patient and give them a chance to improve the app. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Sieghard, Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than in the cloud. Also, for people who don't have unlocked phones it will mean that they probably will not want to use a GPS app that accesses data while roaming. Therefore, I do hope Sendero will consider storing at least some data locally in a future update. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Bob, Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
You are correct. In fact, many sighted people complain if their GPS starts talking to them while they are walking. They prefer to occasionally glance at the display to confirm they are still heading in the correct direction, and prefer an unobtrusive alert if they go off course while walking. I have had sighted friends ask me to shut that damn thing off whilst we were walking together and talking. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Mark, I get your point, but the fact is that it is highly unlikely that Sendero's Seeing Eye app will appeal to tens of thousands of sighted users. Sighted people to a large extend want visual apps with pretty maps in colour and 3D, street view and all sorts of stuff. They do want voice guidance to the extend that while they are driving they may not want to always have to look at the device to know they have to turn left in 300 feet. But I don't think they want voice guidance only which is what we want and the more information (to a degree) the better. I bet that an overwhelming majority of GPS usage by sighted people is in a vehicle and for the occasional time that they may use it while walking they are paying attention to what they see around them and don't want to hear that there is a 711 at 2 o'clock which they have already seen 2 minutes earlier. I have often walked around with sighted friends while I had my GPS on and most of the time they saw our destination long before my GPS told me that we were now 100 feet away and when we reached the destination they had no need to hear that it was on the left or the right. From what I read it appears we can expect an app with a price of around $100 or a bit less and in my opinion that is more than fair, after all, most people on this list who own an iPhone spend almost that much on their monthly plan and even those who have a cheap plan spend it in 2 months. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! This is my point; if Sendero is smart, they'll built an app that EVERYONE will want, even if blind people most of all, and then they can charge less for it, reaching a broader market. Supply and demand. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
So it would still make more sense to partner with a company who makes such a silent, visually appealing app, and piggy-back a Sendero type level of verbal interaction at the user's command. This, after all, is what VoiceOver does to the native IOS when it's invoked. Then, this amortization thing you speak of can be spread not only over a wider customer base but over two companies' resources. The problem with a product that costs significantly higher because it's targeted primarily toward blind people … Okay, let me start that again… *another* problem with this approach is that there are agencies and the like with deep pockets who will justify such a purchase in their rehab or other budgets, which keeps up the barrier between the blind and the world at large. I see a win-win for Sendero to partner with a more conventionally familiar name, I.E. Garnin or someone, or even with the Apple Maps app, provide their product as an option when wanted, and at a significantly lower cost to everyone. Will I get it and all the maps I need when it comes out? Most likely, unless it's off the scale. I personally hope at least one , or home, map comes free with it, or perhaps a set, one from each map source. But making the price too high might not be as damaging as making the target user base too small. Reinventing the wheel seems a bit redundant, if you'll allow me to repeat myself a little bit one more time again. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi, Having just downloaded a copy of the user guide, I can tell you that it doesn't say anything about maps being stored locally on the device. It does say that in the settings screen you can choose your map source, with a choice of either OSM or NavTeq. For POI data, you have a choice of using OSM, Navteq or Foursquare. Tom - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Chuck and Mary, I agree with Mary, unless they say in the user guide that maps are stored locally on the phone there is no reference to that anywhere on the website. Since Mary seems to have more insight in that due to the discussion group she was on and because Sendero LookAround also uses data to access map information on a server I would guess it is more likely the Seeing Eye app will do so as well at least to begin with. Chuck, if you saw something contrary, could you quote the section from the website, the link you provided goes to the same basic description I pasted in my previous message and it mentions nowhere I can see that maps are on the phone. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:31 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
On another list, Mike said that local storage will not be possible, at least at first, but some local storage may be a later possibility. Andy -Original Message- From: Tom Lange Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi, Having just downloaded a copy of the user guide, I can tell you that it doesn't say anything about maps being stored locally on the device. It does say that in the settings screen you can choose your map source, with a choice of either OSM or NavTeq. For POI data, you have a choice of using OSM, Navteq or Foursquare. Tom - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Chuck and Mary, I agree with Mary, unless they say in the user guide that maps are stored locally on the phone there is no reference to that anywhere on the website. Since Mary seems to have more insight in that due to the discussion group she was on and because Sendero LookAround also uses data to access map information on a server I would guess it is more likely the Seeing Eye app will do so as well at least to begin with. Chuck, if you saw something contrary, could you quote the section from the website, the link you provided goes to the same basic description I pasted in my previous message and it mentions nowhere I can see that maps are on the phone. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:31 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To
Re: VizWiz?
Hi, I haven't tried Vizwiz in ages and will have to take it for a spin some time soon just to see how it's doing. Tap Tap See is indeed a great little app, and perhaps a bit less labor-intensive. The last few times I've used it to identify things like boxes of baking soda, cake mix and other things it's been spot on. I was particularly impressed when using it side-by-side with an ID Mate, which could not identify the boxes that I tried scanning. That, quite frankly, surprised me, but I'm no expert with an ID Mate by any means. Go figure. Tom - Original Message - From: Debbie Downey To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: RE: VizWiz? Thanks Patrick, Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the Web Worker option. I think I may stick with TapTap See! Thank you! Debbie -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neazer Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VizWiz? Hello Debbie: Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a picture of a can I took on Saturday. I also have IQ engines checked. Please let us know if that information proves useful to you. Take good care and I wish you enough. Patrick On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey debdow...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I'm not sure how this would work. What would be Garmin's motivation for doing this? I'm not sure the development costs still wouldn't be more to provide an accessible option to a given product than develop an accessible product from the ground up. The amortization argument was mostly targeted at the downloading of maps, which we know this product won't do. It also isn't clear that this product will cost significantly more than existing products. Agencies don't have the deep pockets they might have had at one time. On 27/02/13 21:36, Mark BurningHawk wrote: So it would still make more sense to partner with a company who makes such a silent, visually appealing app, and piggy-back a Sendero type level of verbal interaction at the user's command. This, after all, is what VoiceOver does to the native IOS when it's invoked. Then, this amortization thing you speak of can be spread not only over a wider customer base but over two companies' resources. The problem with a product that costs significantly higher because it's targeted primarily toward blind people … Okay, let me start that again… *another* problem with this approach is that there are agencies and the like with deep pockets who will justify such a purchase in their rehab or other budgets, which keeps up the barrier between the blind and the world at large. I see a win-win for Sendero to partner with a more conventionally familiar name, I.E. Garnin or someone, or even with the Apple Maps app, provide their product as an option when wanted, and at a significantly lower cost to everyone. Will I get it and all the maps I need when it comes out? Most likely, unless it's off the scale. I personally hope at least one , or home, map comes free with it, or perhaps a set, one from each map source. But making the price too high might not be as damaging as making the target user base too small. Reinventing the wheel seems a bit redundant, if you'll allow me to repeat myself a little bit one more time again. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: BARD app coming
Hi, I'm really curious about how much storage would be required for a substantial collection of BARD books. I have students who download a lot of BARD books and I'm continually amazed at how quickly they can fill up an 8 or 16-gig SD card. Also, I would expect that you'd need a good strong wi-fi connection for downloading. Tom - Original Message - From: Courtney Curran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: BARD app coming Hi, Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :) Courtney Sent from my iMac On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
I am glad they are going to have 3 different sources of maps as some are likely better than others in given areas. I always wondered why I find on Foursquare that the old and new names of a given place are both there, but the new name that took over the old building now magically has a completely different address on the given street? Does the post office actually change the address when a business is taken by someone else or why have the confusion of different addresses to the same building? - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! On another list, Mike said that local storage will not be possible, at least at first, but some local storage may be a later possibility. Andy -Original Message- From: Tom Lange Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi, Having just downloaded a copy of the user guide, I can tell you that it doesn't say anything about maps being stored locally on the device. It does say that in the settings screen you can choose your map source, with a choice of either OSM or NavTeq. For POI data, you have a choice of using OSM, Navteq or Foursquare. Tom - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Hi Chuck and Mary, I agree with Mary, unless they say in the user guide that maps are stored locally on the phone there is no reference to that anywhere on the website. Since Mary seems to have more insight in that due to the discussion group she was on and because Sendero LookAround also uses data to access map information on a server I would guess it is more likely the Seeing Eye app will do so as well at least to begin with. Chuck, if you saw something contrary, could you quote the section from the website, the link you provided goes to the same basic description I pasted in my previous message and it mentions nowhere I can see that maps are on the phone. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:31 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Mary, Not true! Reas this: http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm Chuck On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Navigon, TomTom, and a few others have added features useable by the blind. This is about the best we're going to get unless we go with a company focused on access for the blind. That said, most companies focused on access for the blind do not know how to design for the sighted. Apple is one of very few companies which has figured out how to do both successfully. In my experience, having worked on both sides, it is actually easier to get the mainstream companies to adapt themselves. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/02/2013, at 16:12, Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I guess that's a theoretical question, then: If Sendero made their app prettier, more visually appealing, more eye candy, with maps and whatever, would it cost too much in terms of labor and drive even the fair market price up, or would it drive the price up to target an app for a backwater, splinter market like the blind Iphone users? I have no hard answer to this, just curious. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: BARD app coming
Judy Dixon didn't really mention it, but I assume you can still download books to your PC and then transfer them over to your iPhone to use in the BARD Mobile app. I know they don't want to depend on iTunes, but I think they also said that the books they read now with the alpha are being copied over. I mention this because I just use a 2G blank NLS cartridge with my DTBM and a 17G card in my booksense, which has about 12G of music on it. I can get about 6 books on my NLS cartridge and about a dozen on my Booksense. I have more than that on my PC, but I don't bother keeping every book I've ever downloaded on my PC either. If I want to reread a book, I can just download it again. On 27/02/13 22:10, Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I'm really curious about how much storage would be required for a substantial collection of BARD books. I have students who download a lot of BARD books and I'm continually amazed at how quickly they can fill up an 8 or 16-gig SD card. Also, I would expect that you'd need a good strong wi-fi connection for downloading. Tom - Original Message - *From:* Courtney Curran mailto:moopiecur...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:08 PM *Subject:* Re: BARD app coming Hi, Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :) Courtney Sent from my iMac On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com mailto:krba...@gmail.com wrote: On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi Christopher and Mark, You are correct, Christopher, Garmin has no reason why they should engage in such a partnership, in fact, they would never do so since they would have to give Sendero access to their entire code and then make sure what Sendero does is not messing up anything else. Navigon, of course, is owned by Garmin so there is no difference there. Comparing Voiceover with something like GPS apps of course is comparing Apples to Oranges (pun intended) since Voiceover is developed by Apple because Apple chose to make their devices accessible. I guess one could say that if Garmin did make such a huge commitment to accessibility something like what Mark invisions could theoretically be possible, but making one app accessible does not nearly carry the importance of making an entire group of devices, an entire platform and an entire eco-system of content accessible. If Garmin had any interest in that they could have long since included accessibility in many of their stand-along Nuvi products. I know that Mark, and I mean no offense by this, seems to have a huge problem with anything that even hints at being geared towards the visually impaired. Those among us who understand that some things are just done better when they are done with the blind user in mind typically have no such problem especially if the product or, in this case, app in question most likely will be well within the price range of 95% or 98% of iPhone users. You could take Mark's argument and apply it to anything. I am not sure if Mark has a guide dog or is using a cane, but if he is using a cane, why not lobby the manufacturers of white canes to make them more appealing so that maybe sighted people would also buy them as walking sticks or whatever. Maybe they could come with all sorts of cool graphics and white ones would only be 2% of all canes manufacturered and instead of $25 they would now cost only $18. OK, enough said on this topic, there is always Apple Maps which does have a significant amount of accessibility built into it and there are apps like Navigon, Motion GPS or TomTom, of course Mark would have to use a blindness specific app like Blindsquare, Ariadne or Sendero LookAround to get the most out of them as all of us who have been using these solutions for the last few years have done. I definitely prefer to spend whatever Sendero will charge for the Seeing Eye app in the hope that I will get all of what I can do now with several apps and in time probably more out of one app. If I add up all I spend on the various GPS apps hoping I find one that works better than another I could have probably bought the Seeing Eye app twice over. That of course is not taking into account the$2,000 I spend in 2007 to buy a Trekker Maestro and the $900 I spent in 2009 to buy MobileGeo after I bought my first Windows Smartphone with MobileSpeak. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I'm not sure how this would work. What would be Garmin's motivation for doing this? I'm not sure the development costs still wouldn't be more to provide an accessible option to a given product than develop an accessible product from the ground up. The amortization argument was mostly targeted at the downloading of maps, which we know this product won't do. It also isn't clear that this product will cost significantly more than existing products. Agencies don't have the deep pockets they might have had at one time. On 27/02/13 21:36, Mark BurningHawk wrote: So it would still make more sense to partner with a company who makes such a silent, visually appealing app, and piggy-back a Sendero type level of verbal interaction at the user's command. This, after all, is what VoiceOver does to the native IOS when it's invoked. Then, this amortization thing you speak of can be spread not only over a wider customer base but over two companies' resources. The problem with a product that costs significantly higher because it's targeted primarily toward blind people . Okay, let me start that again. *another* problem with this approach is that there are agencies and the like with deep pockets who will justify such a purchase in their rehab or other budgets, which keeps up the barrier between the blind and the world at large. I see a win-win for Sendero to partner with a more conventionally familiar name, I.E. Garnin or someone, or even with the Apple Maps app, provide their product as an option when wanted, and at a significantly lower cost to everyone. Will I get it and all the maps I need when it comes out? Most likely, unless it's off the scale. I personally hope at least one , or home, map comes free with it, or perhaps a set, one from each
Re: An update on my streaming issues
It almost sound to me this is a hardware issue, since it's the OP's only iPhone 5 that exhibits this behavior. I'm no tech, but it sure sounds like an antenna issue of some sort. BTW, is the OP (original poster) checking the amount of bars of wifi signal? Even if it's showing 4 bars, there could be something wrong with processor or reception. YMMV. On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:58 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: I too have been able to stream just fine on LTE and on an Airport express router as well as some other routers with two different IPhone 5 units, one a CDMA and one a GSM model. On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get to try any replacement phone they give you before you walk out of the store. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem still persists. It's a puzzle, all right. My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple weeks, but I suppose it could have been from the same, troublesome, batch of phones. If there are no diagnostic steps that the engineers recommend, I'll request another repair. The strange thing is that I know a few people with iPhone 5s and they mostly complain about the same problems. There's only a lucky few that I've encountered who have no streaming problems at all. So I would have chalked this up to an iPhone 5 defect, and yet there are people who can happily stream all day long. Cheers. Grant On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Don and Grant, Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would be a good way to make sure it is not a problem with your particular WiFi setup/router. It's even possible that another iPhone whether a 4S or 5 could be working well on your WiFi and that it simply comes down to some sort of incompatibility between your particular iPhone 5 and your router. I'm not saying that this is the problem, but I have also seen enough strange things going on with computers and networks that I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Have you ever just gone to an Apple Store and asked them to connect the phone to their WiFi and then stream something that you know doesn't work well at home? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An update on my streaming issues I must admit I am shocked. I have such a wonderful streaming experience with the 5 on my DLink router or my Apple Airprort express which by the way does work the best and also on LTE that I can't express how wonderful it is. I can stream 320k streams for hours with wonderful quality and no buffering, breakups or anything but 100% reliablility. I don't say this to brag or rub it in your face just to tell you that your problems are not the norm at all. Hopefully Apple will get to the bottom of it and you will enjoy the same thing eventually. I would have strongly suggested a problem with that particular iPhone but since you have already replaced it the problem remains a puzzle. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: BARD app coming
Hi, NLS books take 11 MB per hour, so that should give you some idea how much space is required. Cheers, Anna On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm really curious about how much storage would be required for a substantial collection of BARD books. I have students who download a lot of BARD books and I'm continually amazed at how quickly they can fill up an 8 or 16-gig SD card. Also, I would expect that you'd need a good strong wi-fi connection for downloading. Tom - Original Message - From: Courtney Curran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: BARD app coming Hi, Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :) Courtney Sent from my iMac On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those of us in the U.S. The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no iTunes, good control of playback speed, level navigation and more. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Wow. well, thanks for making it personal, there. Appreciate that, but not so much. What *I* personally have a problem with, since you brought it up, is anything that raises the barriers that sight imposes between blind and sighted persons, instead of lowering them or making that barrier meaningless. If this is a white cane versus a black or tan or whatever cane, fine. If it a GPS app that has a cheaper price but has a sub-level for blind people, designed by blind people, then I think that's a better way to go than reinventing the wheel of GPS apps for the blind, charging them and only them or their agencies more, and relegating the blind to their own separate portion of the market. Apple has shown by example that this is not necessarily the result for blind people who use technology. Many sighted companies--certain US-based airlines spring to mind--merge to provide a more complete range of services--why couldn't this be a more feasible approach to a GPS app that is universally accessible? The same argument you use when you say that one company making devices universally accessible does not make the industry standard, is used all the time to keep whole countries from going green, by switching to alternative energy sources. As for your comparison to canes, I guess you haven't been to any page selling canes or their accessories lately--if so, you'll find a large list of said accessories visually designed for matching with your shoes, hand-bag, golf bag, whatever. And, just to clear this up, I'm a 23-year veteran with four guide dogs' lives worth of service to my credit, I've lived all over the US in every conceivable environmental and mobility situation. I'm just very lucky to be a basic black, wearing type individual, so I haven't had to accessorize my black lab much. Oh, and they have tons of guide dog harness accessories, not to mention the usual run of silly doggie booties and sweaters and the lot. You say that Some things are just better when they are done with the blind person in mind, I have to ask, Who is doing these things? a sighted overlord? Things done with me in mind have almost killed me too many times to count, sir, and if you must know, it is things done with me and my good in mind that I have a huge objection to. So should every thinking person. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
Hi all. As my own opinion, I think because of the accessibility of apps to everybody around the world, someone may think that is the reasonable price but someone else may think that's a crazy one. For the living cost in your country, you may think 9$ for an app is ok, reasonable but for the poor country such as ones in Africa or Vietnam, southeast Asia, where I'm living, that is really high price for an app. 9$ is worth ten lunch for a usual people here. I'm even a student without very much, almost no help from the government, it makes me feel really bad when deciding to buy an app for studying use. I know the hobbit that always waiting for app going on sale to buy is not good but you should put you own into many situation so that you can understand them better. Thanks for reading! Best regards! Jimmy Vinh Nguyen (Nguyễn Thành Vinh) Primary email: nguyenthanhvin...@gmail.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.vinh.nguyen94 Cell: (+84) 16 5551 5557; (+84) 929 176 557 (alternate) Yahoo MSGR.: nguyenthanhvinh1992 Skype: thanhvinh94 On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal needs and the features contained in the app. Cheers! On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most likely make some others redundant. I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may think. Best regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM *To:* ViPone list *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: *From:*senderogps-bou...@freelists.org mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Kim Casey *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM *To:* 'Kim Casey' *Subject:* Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. About Seeing Eye GPS Getting around independently is a
