RE: Problem with Skype

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ron,

 

I would suggest you try and delete Skype off your phone and then redownload
it because I can't reproduce this at all neither with the last version or
the one which just came out.

After I place a call I have End Call a bit up from the Home key, I just
put my finger on the home button and move it straight up. Once I find End
Call I can flick left for the in-call DialPad, for Mute and for Speakerphone
On/Off.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem with Skype

 

Hi all,

 

I have a problem with not being able to do anything after I call someone. I
don't get a menu on the screen that allows me to turn on the speaker or even
hang up. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

By the way, I have the latest version that came out today but I had the same
problem with the previous version.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

A bachelor is a guy who never made the same mistake once. 

Phyllis Diller 

 

 

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RE: Skype update and removing contacts

2014-07-08 Thread Ahmed Khater
I also have a 5S iPhone and touch id function is active. So, what you do is
to double the skype icon on the lock screen first, before you hide it using
your fingerprint. Is that right?

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hi Ahmed,

 

Answering incoming Skype calls is a bit of a challenge especially if you use
a passcode. As far as I know you can't answer from the lock screen. If I
have quick access to my phone I can usually do it uickly enough, but I have
a 5S and use Touch Id which allows me to unlock the phone pretty quickly.
It's definitely a good idea to set Skype alerts to show on the lock screen
because then I can double tap on it in the lock screen, then use my
fingerprint to unlock and I'll be taken straight into the app where I can
find the answer button.

 

Regards,

Siegard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Sieghard,

 

I always receive skype calls while I am in the home screen, or the screen of
my phone is locked. When I try to answer the call, it is very difficult for
me to find to go to the skype app and answer the call quickly. Now, What is
the easiest and fastest way to answer a skype call? And are there any
specific notification settings, or any other possible settings that I need
to perform which can facilitate the process of answering skype calls?

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Jenny,

 

OK, I saw the Skype update this morning and know now where you saw this
about removing contacts. This has indeed changed a bit in this version of
Skype.

The easiest way to do this is to double tap on a contact, then once the
contact is open double tap o the contact name again at the top of the screen
which will show you the contacts profile. You can also get there by opening
a contact, then double tap the More button at the bottom right and select
Profile from the menu.

At the bottom of the profile is another More button and in this menu you
now have Block and Remove. There is no longer a Block and Remove
option as I assume that removing a contact will either block it
automatically or maybe it asks if you want to also block the contact if you
tap on Remove. Since I didn't have a contact to be removed I didn't try
this.

 

In the What's New they also mentioned that you can send voice messages, I
have not yet found where you can do this. I thought it would be in the media
menu where you can send a photo or video message, but those are still the
only 2 options in that menu.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention of 
the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results we get. 
This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main stream apps 
that they need not make the effort to make their apps accessible, the blindies 
have their own special apps that they use so why bother, and once again we'll 
be directed to the situation that we said we didn't want when the IPhone first 
became accessible. Yes there's a choice and all that and people choose what 
ever tool fits the task and all the rest, but some day there won't be this 
choice because we repeatedly send signals to the developers that their effort 
ain't gonna satisfy us and that the only things that will are the blind 
ghetto solutions. (note the quotes)
That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame protective 
suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
/Krister

 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with 
 the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase and 
 thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five years and 
 it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be seen to be 
 believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! It's a 
 steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other available 
 OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese. 
 
 
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Re: transfare my photos from my icloud to PC

2014-07-08 Thread Steve Man
the main  reasone my iphone has stolen and I want to download my
photos also I tried with icloud  control banel but I  get  nothing
therefore I want to get the backup file it is about 4gb  is there any
way to do that

On 7/7/14, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Why do you want to do this? I had to help out a friend recently who
 had her phone stolen (she'd actually just mislaid it)  she was hoping
 that if we accessed her iCloud we could at least grab all of her
 photos  transfer them onto her computer / a new phone. Unfortunately,
 it turns out that it isn't as straight forward as it may seem.

 Your photos aren't actually backed up in iCloud in the same way that
 other things are, although this will be changing in iOS8. However,
 there are two situations where your photos may be stored in iCloud:

 If you have setup a photo stream to share with people.
 If you have multiple iCloud enabled devices, if you have set things up
 so that photos are transfered between them  you have enough free
 space on iCloud for this to happen.

 Unfortunately in my situation, no photo stream had been enabled and
 whilst my friend did also own an iPad that was set to receive photos
 via photo transfer, she had run out of free space on her account so
 none of her photos were available online.

 If you can let us know why you're wanting to do this perhaps I /
 someone else can come up with another approach.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 7/7/14, Steve Man stev...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello all listers
 I have a problem could you guide me how to get my photos from icloud
 to the computer
 thanks so much

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download backup from icloud to my windows PC

2014-07-08 Thread Steve Man
hello all listers I want to get my backup from Icloud because my
iphone has been stolen
is there any way to download 4gb from Icloud
thanks

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RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Malver
But it might be apples and oranges.
Knfb reader is supposed to have text editing abilities in addition to
scanning abilities. I certainly can't edit text with text detective. Can it
be done with text grabber?
In other words, though it is an app for the blind, it may have a feature set
that makes it unique among scanning apps.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App

Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention
of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results
we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main
stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps
accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why
bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we
didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice
and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the
rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send
signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that
the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the
quotes) That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame
protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
/Krister

 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader
with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his
purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past
five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to
be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for
$99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with
other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese. 
 
 
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Re: download backup from icloud to my windows PC

2014-07-08 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

The product in this
http://www.recovery-transfer.com/about/restore-data-from-icloud-backup.html
article claims to be able to do it but it's inaccessible. If you're
hoping for your photos, as per my message yesterday you will
unfortunately be disappointed.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 7/8/14, Steve Man stev...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello all listers I want to get my backup from Icloud because my
 iphone has been stolen
 is there any way to download 4gb from Icloud
 thanks

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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi,
You can certainly edit text using both Prizmo and TextGrabber. You can also 
export/copy your text and put it elsewhere and edit it there, four example, in 
the Notes app or in an email. For me, who has always been a Prizmo/TextGrabber 
fan, the dealbreaker would be if: KNFB reader is much much easier to use 
freehand and if it really can read at a distance for Street signage, shop 
names, and, perhaps, electronic displays. If it can do these things, then, even 
I, who has a complete down on apps specially designed for the Blind, would be 
tempted!

Watching with interest,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 8 Jul 2014, at 10:48, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But it might be apples and oranges.
 Knfb reader is supposed to have text editing abilities in addition to
 scanning abilities. I certainly can't edit text with text detective. Can it
 be done with text grabber?
 In other words, though it is an app for the blind, it may have a feature set
 that makes it unique among scanning apps.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention
 of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results
 we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main
 stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps
 accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why
 bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we
 didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice
 and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the
 rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send
 signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that
 the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the
 quotes) That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame
 protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
 /Krister
 
 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past
 five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to
 be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If this were true then the accessibility products we had in the 70's and 
80's would have kept products like VoiceOver and the iPhone from being 
developed.


Also, there are hundreds of thousands of apps in the App Store and quite 
a few OCR solutions. Just because a product exists to satisfy a desire 
doesn't mean other products won't also be developed to meet the same 
need. We see this with main stream products all of the time.


I agree we should work to make mainstream products accessible, but 
sometimes a blind user has needs or feature requests that don't make 
sense to a sighted user. A product developed with the blind in mind may 
also prove the viability of the technology and the market. Would we have 
VoiceOver and an accessible iPhone if so called ghetto products for the 
blind had not already demonstrated the fact that a market existed and 
the technology was available for smart phones to be used by the blind.


I'm not a fan of the term blind ghetto. I wouldn't have been employed 
since the 80's if it weren't for these so called blind ghetto products. 
I'm not sure I'd be employed now without JAWS and the ability to use the 
applications my colleagues use to do their jobs. These products have 
given me independence and not held me back as the term ghetto implies.


On 07/08/2014 04:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention of the wheel 
in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results we get. This can, in the 
worst scenario send a signal to developers of main stream apps that they need not make 
the effort to make their apps accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that 
they use so why bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we 
didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice and all that 
and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the rest, but some day there won't 
be this choice because we repeatedly send signals to the developers that their effort 
ain't gonna satisfy us and that the only things that will are the blind 
ghetto solutions. (note the quotes)
That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame protective 
suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
/Krister


7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:

About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with 
the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase and 
thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five years and 
it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be seen to be 
believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! It's a steal! 
 It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other available OCR apps is 
like comparing chalk with cheese.


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MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am  
ET Associated Press



CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index 
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and immediate 
access to printed words.



The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like a 
ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A 
synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant 
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home or 
office.



Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks the 
finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The device has 
vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the script, said Roy 
Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media Lab.



For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader is 
its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a doctor's 
office and restaurants.



When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read before 
I sign them, Berrier said.



He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market for 
those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read in real 
time.



Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that distributes 
technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode Island who have lost 
their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins School for the Blind in 
Watertown, Massachusetts.



Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform us 
about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to 
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,

Berrier said.



Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces 
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like reading 
with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot more immediate 
than any solution that they have right now.



Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting 
with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually 
impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market, Shilkrot 
said, including making it work on cellphones.



Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the 
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market 
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision 
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.



Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that 
must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by 
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone, Shilkrot 
said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of raised dots 
that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said, the new device 
would enable users to access a vast number of books and other materials that 
are not currently available in Braille.



Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual 
impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text 
that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and end 
of the reading material.



Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from the 
FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.



The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer 
screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen, 
said Shilkrot.



That's because touching the screen with the tip of the finger would move text 
around, producing unintended results. Disabling the touch-screen function 
eliminates the problem, he said.



Berrier said affordable pricing could make the FingerReader a key tool to help 
people with vision impairment integrate into the modern information economy.



Any tool that we can get that gives us better access to printed material helps 
us to live fuller, richer, more productive lives, Berrier said

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RE: Phoning From A Text Message

2014-07-08 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
That works perfectly, thank you very much indeed, much faster way of calling 
someone if they message you rather than having to close down messages and go in 
to the contacts etc.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 20 June 2014 22:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phoning From A Text Message

Alan,

What is it you can't do from your ATT 5S? If you refer to calling from an open 
text message then that is possible as it has nothing to do with your carrier or 
phone model.

At the top right of the screen when you are in a conversation is a button, I 
believe it is called Contact. If you double tap it 3 little buttons appear 
underneath, one of them is More Info and it opens that contact, one is Call and 
I can't recall what the other one is because I am running the iOS 8 Beta now 
and here the button at the top right is called Details and it brings up a menu 
of options which are different due to the added features in iOS 8.

The 3 buttons are a bit hard to find, after you double tap on Contact at the 
top right I think it turns into a Done button and if you move your finger down 
just a bit you will find the More Info button, then you can swipe left to the 
other 2 buttons.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phoning From A Text Message

On my ATT 5s you cannot.  However, from contacts, you can send a text or email 
as well as just call that contact assuming of course you have that persons 
email and phone number.

HTH

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - 
everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/http://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
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Subject: Phoning From A Text Message

Hi friends,

If I have a text message open from a contact, is there a way to actually phone 
them from this screen?




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Copying A Message Conversation

2014-07-08 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Hi friends,

I have a message conversation list which consists of several individual  
messages.
Is there a way that I can either forward the whole conversation to someone as a 
text message or take a copy of the conversation so that I can email it to 
myself or something?

Many thanks in anticipation,




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RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread dan Thompson
Hi Lucy, 

Thanks many times for sharing this encouraging bit of information.  I will
keep watching the development of this device.  Thanks again.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

 

MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am
ET Associated Press

 

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and
immediate access to printed words.

 

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like
a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A
synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home
or office.

 

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks
the finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The
device has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the
script, said Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media
Lab.

 

For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader
is its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a
doctor's office and restaurants.

 

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read
before I sign them, Berrier said.

 

He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market
for those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read
in real time.

 

Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that
distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode
Island who have lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins
School for the Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.

 

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform
us about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,

Berrier said.

 

Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like
reading with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot
more immediate than any solution that they have right now.

 

Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting
with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually
impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market,
Shilkrot said, including making it work on cellphones.

 

Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

 

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that
must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone,
Shilkrot said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of
raised dots that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said,
the new device would enable users to access a vast number of books and other
materials that are not currently available in Braille.

 

Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual
impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text
that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and
end of the reading material.

 

Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from
the FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.

 

The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer
screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen,
said Shilkrot.

 

That's because touching the screen with the tip of the finger would move
text around, producing unintended results. Disabling the touch-screen
function eliminates the problem, he said.

 

Berrier said affordable pricing could make the FingerReader a key tool to
help people with vision impairment integrate into the modern information
economy.

 

Any tool that we can get that gives us better access to printed material
helps us to live fuller, richer, more productive lives, Berrier said

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Re: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Tim Emmons
I definitely want one, Lol. I am curious to see how this will work and what the 
price will be when it hits. Thanks for this Lucy and take care guys. 
On Jul 8, 2014, at 8:16 AM, dan Thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com wrote:

 Hi Lucy,
 Thanks many times for sharing this encouraging bit of information.  I will 
 keep watching the development of this device.  Thanks again.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 OfEdmonds, Lucy (LARA)
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.
  
 MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am  
 ET Associated Press
  
 CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of 
 Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index 
 finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and 
 immediate access to printed words.
  
 The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like 
 a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A 
 synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant 
 menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home 
 or office.
  
 Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks 
 the finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The 
 device has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the 
 script, said Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media Lab.
  
 For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader is 
 its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a doctor's 
 office and restaurants.
  
 When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read 
 before I sign them, Berrier said.
  
 He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market 
 for those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read 
 in real time.
  
 Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that 
 distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode Island 
 who have lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins School for 
 the Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.
  
 Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform us 
 about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to 
 interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,
 Berrier said.
  
 Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces 
 research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like 
 reading with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot more 
 immediate than any solution that they have right now.
  
 Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting 
 with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually 
 impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market, 
 Shilkrot said, including making it work on cellphones.
  
 Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the 
 FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market 
 includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision 
 impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.
  
 Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that 
 must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by 
 character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone, 
 Shilkrot said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of 
 raised dots that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said, 
 the new device would enable users to access a vast number of books and other 
 materials that are not currently available in Braille.
  
 Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual 
 impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text 
 that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and 
 end of the reading material.
  
 Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from 
 the FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.
  
 The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer 
 screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen, 
 said Shilkrot.
  
 That's because touching the screen with the tip of the finger would move text 
 around, producing unintended results. Disabling the touch-screen function 
 eliminates the problem, he said.
  
 Berrier said affordable pricing could make the FingerReader a key tool to 
 help people with vision impairment integrate into the modern information 
 economy.
  
 Any tool that we can get that gives us better access to printed material 
 helps us to live fuller, richer, more 

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Russ Kiehne
I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.


On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:

About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with 
the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase and 
thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five years and 
it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be seen to be 
believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! It's a steal! 
 It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other available OCR apps is 
like comparing chalk with cheese.




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Re: Copying A Message Conversation

2014-07-08 Thread isaac
Yes you can do this. 
First open the conversation . 
Next go to the message and then switch the rotor to actions. 
Next swipe to more and double tap on it.  
Next double tap on all the messages in the conversation and then double tap 
forward.  If you want to email it to you're self then switch the rotor to edit. 
Before you do that double tap to get in to the edit field. 
Then switch the rotor to edit. 
Next choose select all. 
Next choose copy. 
Next go to mail. 
Next choose compose. 
Next after entering you're email address if you are going to send it to you're 
self double tap the message body field and then paste it in there. 


isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:

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 a text message or take a copy of the conversation so that I can email it to 
 myself or something?
  
 Many thanks in anticipation,
  
 
 
 
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RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Lucy for sharing this.

This sounds very promising.  Reminds me of the OPTACON shrunk down to one
finger size with speech output.  

It will be very interesting to see if it comes to market and at what price.

 

 

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MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am
ET Associated Press

 

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and
immediate access to printed words.

 

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like
a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A
synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home
or office.

 

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks
the finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The
device has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the
script, said Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media
Lab.

 

For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader
is its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a
doctor's office and restaurants.

 

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read
before I sign them, Berrier said.

 

He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market
for those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read
in real time.

 

Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that
distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode
Island who have lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins
School for the Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.

 

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform
us about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,

Berrier said.

 

Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like
reading with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot
more immediate than any solution that they have right now.

 

Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting
with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually
impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market,
Shilkrot said, including making it work on cellphones.

 

Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

 

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that
must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone,
Shilkrot said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of
raised dots that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said,
the new device would enable users to access a vast number of books and other
materials that are not currently available in Braille.

 

Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual
impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text
that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and
end of the reading material.

 

Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from
the FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.

 

The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer
screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen,
said Shilkrot.

 

That's because touching the screen with the tip of the finger would move
text around, producing unintended results. Disabling the touch-screen
function eliminates the problem, he said.

 

Berrier said affordable pricing could make the FingerReader a key tool to
help people with vision impairment integrate into the modern information
economy.

 

Any tool that we can get that gives us better access to printed material
helps us to live fuller, richer, more productive lives, Berrier said

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RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
The Optacon is great! Wish they still made them.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

Thanks Lucy for sharing this.
This sounds very promising.  Reminds me of the OPTACON shrunk down to one 
finger size with speech output.
It will be very interesting to see if it comes to market and at what price.


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MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am  
ET Associated Press

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index 
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and immediate 
access to printed words.

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like a 
ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A 
synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant 
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home or 
office.

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks the 
finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The device has 
vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the script, said Roy 
Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media Lab.

For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader is 
its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a doctor's 
office and restaurants.

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read before 
I sign them, Berrier said.

He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market for 
those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read in real 
time.

Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that distributes 
technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode Island who have lost 
their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins School for the Blind in 
Watertown, Massachusetts.

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform us 
about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to 
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,
Berrier said.

Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces 
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like reading 
with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot more immediate 
than any solution that they have right now.

Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting 
with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually 
impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market, Shilkrot 
said, including making it work on cellphones.

Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the 
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market 
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision 
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that 
must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by 
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone, Shilkrot 
said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of raised dots 
that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said, the new device 
would enable users to access a vast number of books and other materials that 
are not currently available in Braille.

Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual 
impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text 
that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and end 
of the reading material.

Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from the 
FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.

The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer 
screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen, 
said Shilkrot.

That's because touching the screen with the tip of the finger would move text 
around, producing unintended results. Disabling the touch-screen function 
eliminates the problem, he said.

Berrier said affordable pricing could make the FingerReader a key tool to help 
people with vision impairment integrate into the modern information economy.

Any tool that we 

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
following tweet earlier today:

@davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a freemium 
app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.

So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find this 
to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th generation.  
 I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with 
 the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase 
 and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five 
 years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be 
 seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! 
 It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other 
 available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.
 
 
 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual do 
a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After all, 
nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients and 
caution will yield good results in the end.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
 following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find 
 this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th generation.  
 I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past 
 five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to 
 be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for 
 $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with 
 other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.
 
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Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

2014-07-08 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi all,

Here is what's happening with the 2 finger double tap in voice memos in ios 7: 
When you first perform this action it starts recording and you hear a ding.
If you do it again you hear no sound. This made me and probably others assume 
it did not pause the recording, since in earlier versions it would sound 2 
dings at this point.
It actually pauses none the less.
Double-tap again with 2 fingers and you can resume the recording. When done and 
you want to stop find the done button.
Here we hear that 2 ding signal. 
I have suggested to apple to let us hear this 2 ding sound when we pause to 
give a cue that the action was performed successfully. 
Hth,


Ioana




Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 installed on it.  I just used VoiceMemo 
 this evening and had no problem using the 2 finger double tap to stop 
 recording.
 
 My question is this; does the 2 finger double tap successfully stop other 
 apps?
 
 Holland's Boy, Bill
 - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
 - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
 - Original Message - From: Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:37 AM
 Subject: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos
 
 
 Hi list,
 
 Did any of you notice a bug in voice memos where 2 finger double tap dos not 
 stop recording?
 I wrote to accessibility and they got back saying they could not reproduce 
 this.
 I used 2 iphone 5 7.12 to test this and got same bug.
 thanks,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it 
works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes on 
envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that out 
ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as it did 
for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has different use 
cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't understand why the 
developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model that would let each 
potential customer make sure the app is what they want and need before spending 
all that money.
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual 
 do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After all, 
 nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients and 
 caution will yield good results in the end.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
 following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find 
 this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th generation. 
  I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
 past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR 
 have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now 
 sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing 
 it with other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.
 
 
 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be 
ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB, 
perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy this 
app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask them to 
scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not the same as us 
doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just don't think it's with 
getting that worked up over. After all, one of the main reasons at this list is 
so beneficial is the fact that there are lots of guinea pigs out there. There 
are a lot of people who will buy apps and test them. We can learn from them. 
That's one of the main reasons I stay on this list along with being able to 
hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't for these facts. With all the 
extraneous messages that are passed back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed 
along time ago.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it 
 works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes 
 on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that 
 out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as 
 it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has 
 different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't 
 understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model that 
 would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want and 
 need before spending all that money.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual 
 do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After 
 all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients 
 and caution will yield good results in the end.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
 following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find 
 this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
 generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
 past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR 
 have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now 
 sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing 
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Re: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices USB

2014-07-08 Thread Feliciano G
Try another usb cable. That way you don't fault  the unit.
  

  Regards, cca Feliciano

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 Hello list.
 
 I have just received this particular external battery pack, but when
 connecting it to iPhone 5S, the message that comes up states that this
 particular device is not certified and nay not work correctly.
 One time when connecting it, it did make the typical charging sound,
 but most of the time, the message regarding incompatibility comes up.
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Russ Kiehne
My question would be, does text grabber work like openbook?  It doesn't 
matter how the document is orientated and still read it to you?  I would 
assume that KNFB reader works like openbook?


On 7/8/2014 2:48 AM, Michael Malver wrote:

But it might be apples and oranges.
Knfb reader is supposed to have text editing abilities in addition to
scanning abilities. I certainly can't edit text with text detective. Can it
be done with text grabber?
In other words, though it is an app for the blind, it may have a feature set
that makes it unique among scanning apps.

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Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention
of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results
we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main
stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps
accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why
bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we
didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice
and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the
rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send
signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that
the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the
quotes) That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame
protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
/Krister


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About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader

with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his
purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past
five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to
be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for
$99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with
other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.



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RE: Skype update and removing contacts

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, any notification you double tap before you unlock your phone will take
you straight into the app once the phone is unlocked. If you don't lock your
phone with a passcode/fingerprint Skype would open right away from the lock
screen if you were to double tap a Skype notification.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

I also have a 5S iPhone and touch id function is active. So, what you do is
to double the skype icon on the lock screen first, before you hide it using
your fingerprint. Is that right?

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com mailto:aakhater@gmail.com 

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hi Ahmed,

 

Answering incoming Skype calls is a bit of a challenge especially if you use
a passcode. As far as I know you can't answer from the lock screen. If I
have quick access to my phone I can usually do it uickly enough, but I have
a 5S and use Touch Id which allows me to unlock the phone pretty quickly.
It's definitely a good idea to set Skype alerts to show on the lock screen
because then I can double tap on it in the lock screen, then use my
fingerprint to unlock and I'll be taken straight into the app where I can
find the answer button.

 

Regards,

Siegard

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Sieghard,

 

I always receive skype calls while I am in the home screen, or the screen of
my phone is locked. When I try to answer the call, it is very difficult for
me to find to go to the skype app and answer the call quickly. Now, What is
the easiest and fastest way to answer a skype call? And are there any
specific notification settings, or any other possible settings that I need
to perform which can facilitate the process of answering skype calls?

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com mailto:aakhater@gmail.com 

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Jenny,

 

OK, I saw the Skype update this morning and know now where you saw this
about removing contacts. This has indeed changed a bit in this version of
Skype.

The easiest way to do this is to double tap on a contact, then once the
contact is open double tap o the contact name again at the top of the screen
which will show you the contacts profile. You can also get there by opening
a contact, then double tap the More button at the bottom right and select
Profile from the menu.

At the bottom of the profile is another More button and in this menu you
now have Block and Remove. There is no longer a Block and Remove
option as I assume that removing a contact will either block it
automatically or maybe it asks if you want to also block the contact if you
tap on Remove. Since I didn't have a contact to be removed I didn't try
this.

 

In the What's New they also mentioned that you can send voice messages, I
have not yet found where you can do this. I thought it would be in the media
menu where you can send a photo or video message, but those are still the
only 2 options in that menu.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: download backup from icloud to my windows PC

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would recommend that  you call Apple Accessibility and ask for help with 
this. The number is 1-877-204-3930. I assume  you are in the United States? If 
not you could use Skype to call this toll free number at no cost.

Regards,
Sieghard


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hello all listers I want to get my backup from Icloud because my iphone has 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort of) 
testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the attitude; they 
are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a refund, yet plenty of 
models exist that would let users try before buying. Instead of adopting such a 
model, though, they first blame Apple for not offering an official app trial 
mechanism (see yesterday's tweet), then they say that adopting a freemium model 
of some kind would be confusing. This, despite the fact that plenty of apps, 
blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to great success. Bottom line: they 
want a whole lot of money, but won't allow a trial even though doing so would 
be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for nothing at all, or claim it would be a 
lower-quality experience somehow.
On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be 
 ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB, 
 perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy this 
 app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask them 
 to scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not the same 
 as us doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just don't think 
 it's with getting that worked up over. After all, one of the main reasons at 
 this list is so beneficial is the fact that there are lots of guinea pigs out 
 there. There are a lot of people who will buy apps and test them. We can 
 learn from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on this list along 
 with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't for these 
 facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed back-and-forth, I 
 would've unsubscribed along time ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it 
 works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes 
 on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that 
 out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as 
 it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has 
 different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't 
 understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model 
 that would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want 
 and need before spending all that money.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual 
 do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After 
 all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients 
 and caution will yield good results in the end.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
 following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find 
 this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
 generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
 past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR 
 have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now 
 sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! 
 Comparing it with other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with 
 cheese.
 
 
 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Russ Kiehne
I agree, my ipod touch only has a 5mp camera.  This is why I would like 
to try before I buy.  From what they said in the demo, it won't work as 
well with older iphones.  From what I understand, this is because the 
older iphones don't have the higher quality camera like the newest ones.


On 7/8/2014 7:02 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure
it works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but
chokes on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can
test that out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for
me as well as it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example;
everyone has different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I
simply can't understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a
simple model that would let each potential customer make sure the app is
what they want and need before spending all that money.
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:


Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one
individual do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really
works. After all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out.
Using some patients and caution will yield good results in the end.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader
sent the following tweet earlier today:

@davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a
freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.

So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others'
experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally
find this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th
generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.

On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:

About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB
Reader  with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really
thrilled with his purchase and thought it was great value. He has
 been using it for the past five years and it's been working
flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be seen to be believed!
I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! It's a
steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other
available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.




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RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I do somewhat agree with you, Alex, if an app is that expensive some sort of
trial is definitely a good idea. I do, however, also think Apple should
change their policy and figure out a way for people to Test Drive an app so
to speak. They announced this ne wthing where developers can create a video
or something like that to show what their app can do, but that of course if
probably of little value in most situations for a blind person. I like very
little about Android when it comes to security, the fragmentation of the OS
and the many devices, but the ability to buy an app and return it within a
short time frame is very nice and I wish Apple could do something like
that.Say you buy an app and your credit card or account credit is charged 30
minutes after downloading the app. If you downloaded it and found that it
didn't work you could do something simple which would void out the
transaction. In any case something which is in line with Steve Jobb's old
It just works motto and of course you can do this only once for any
particular app..

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App

 

I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort of)
testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the attitude;
they are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a refund, yet
plenty of models exist that would let users try before buying. Instead of
adopting such a model, though, they first blame Apple for not offering an
official app trial mechanism (see yesterday's tweet), then they say that
adopting a freemium model of some kind would be confusing. This, despite the
fact that plenty of apps, blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to
great success. Bottom line: they want a whole lot of money, but won't allow
a trial even though doing so would be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for
nothing at all, or claim it would be a lower-quality experience somehow.

On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com  wrote:





Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be
ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB,
perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy
this app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask
them to scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not the
same as us doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just don't
think it's with getting that worked up over. After all, one of the main
reasons at this list is so beneficial is the fact that there are lots of
guinea pigs out there. There are a lot of people who will buy apps and test
them. We can learn from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on this
list along with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't
for these facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed
back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed along time ago.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com  wrote:

I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it
works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes
on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that
out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as
it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has
different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't
understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model
that would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want
and need before spending all that money.

On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com  wrote:





Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual
do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After
all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients
and caution will yield good results in the end.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com  wrote:

Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the
following tweet earlier today:

 

@davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a
freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.

 

So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others'
experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find
this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?

On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com  wrote:





I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 

RE: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices USB

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Are you using an original or Apple certified cable with this?

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Subject: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB 
Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices 
USB

Hello list.

I have just received this particular external battery pack, but when
connecting it to iPhone 5S, the message that comes up states that this
particular device is not certified and nay not work correctly.
One time when connecting it, it did make the typical charging sound,
but most of the time, the message regarding incompatibility comes up.
Any suggestions after having purchased this device?
Thanks.

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RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Christopher,

Well said and one could also make the point that if a blind specific app has
extra features which the main stream app does not have that maybe the
developer of the main stream app might be encouraged to add similar features
if his/her app already had most of what the blind person needed.

In any case, in our economy anybody can produce a product or service and
market/sell it and while mainstream accessibility is awesome, there is and
probably always will be a place for special companies. I don't see any dog
training schools which train guard dogs put out guide dogs and I don't see
companies like Leki or Komperdell which make walking, trekking or Nordic
walking poles product white canes.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App

If this were true then the accessibility products we had in the 70's and
80's would have kept products like VoiceOver and the iPhone from being
developed.

Also, there are hundreds of thousands of apps in the App Store and quite a
few OCR solutions. Just because a product exists to satisfy a desire doesn't
mean other products won't also be developed to meet the same need. We see
this with main stream products all of the time.

I agree we should work to make mainstream products accessible, but sometimes
a blind user has needs or feature requests that don't make sense to a
sighted user. A product developed with the blind in mind may also prove the
viability of the technology and the market. Would we have VoiceOver and an
accessible iPhone if so called ghetto products for the blind had not already
demonstrated the fact that a market existed and the technology was available
for smart phones to be used by the blind.

I'm not a fan of the term blind ghetto. I wouldn't have been employed
since the 80's if it weren't for these so called blind ghetto products. 
I'm not sure I'd be employed now without JAWS and the ability to use the
applications my colleagues use to do their jobs. These products have given
me independence and not held me back as the term ghetto implies.

On 07/08/2014 04:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a 
 reinvention of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with
the results we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to
developers of main stream apps that they need not make the effort to make
their apps accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they
use so why bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we
said we didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a
choice and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all
the rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send
signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that
the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the
quotes) That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame
protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
 /Krister

 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:

 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader
with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his
purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past
five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to
be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for
$99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with
other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.


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Re: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices USB

2014-07-08 Thread Pete Nalda
That comes up for me when charging with said battery pack as well. I just 
ignore it. 

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 On Jul 8, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Jim Fettgather jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello list.
 
 I have just received this particular external battery pack, but when
 connecting it to iPhone 5S, the message that comes up states that this
 particular device is not certified and nay not work correctly.
 One time when connecting it, it did make the typical charging sound,
 but most of the time, the message regarding incompatibility comes up.
 Any suggestions after having purchased this device?
 Thanks.
 
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RE: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

2014-07-08 Thread Neal Ewers
Ioana, if you heard the same sound for recording and for pause, how would
you know which you were actually doing if you didn't remember and got off by
one? I would think that if Apple wanted to do this, there would be a
different sound, say two dings for record, and one ding for pause.

Neal


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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

Hi all,

Here is what's happening with the 2 finger double tap in voice memos in ios
7: 
When you first perform this action it starts recording and you hear a ding.
If you do it again you hear no sound. This made me and probably others
assume it did not pause the recording, since in earlier versions it would
sound 2 dings at this point.
It actually pauses none the less.
Double-tap again with 2 fingers and you can resume the recording. When done
and you want to stop find the done button.
Here we hear that 2 ding signal. 
I have suggested to apple to let us hear this 2 ding sound when we pause to
give a cue that the action was performed successfully. 
Hth,


Ioana




Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 installed on it.  I just used VoiceMemo
this evening and had no problem using the 2 finger double tap to stop
recording.
 
 My question is this; does the 2 finger double tap successfully stop
other apps?
 
 Holland's Boy, Bill
 - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
 - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
 - Original Message - From: Ioana Gandrabur
igandra...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:37 AM
 Subject: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos
 
 
 Hi list,
 
 Did any of you notice a bug in voice memos where 2 finger double tap dos
not stop recording?
 I wrote to accessibility and they got back saying they could not reproduce
this.
 I used 2 iphone 5 7.12 to test this and got same bug.
 thanks,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Mrs Villa
hi lucy,
thanks for sending this. it sounds very interesting. i did a while ago hear 
that there was something like that coming out. if it will be affordable who can 
tell. best si 

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Re: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices USB

2014-07-08 Thread Jim Fettgather
The strange thing is, charging does not begin after that message is 
displayed, at least on my unit.
I wonder if the problem could be in the provided cable that comes with the 
unit?



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USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic 
devices USB


That comes up for me when charging with said battery pack as well. I just 
ignore it.


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Hello list.

I have just received this particular external battery pack, but when
connecting it to iPhone 5S, the message that comes up states that this
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One time when connecting it, it did make the typical charging sound,
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I Password.

2014-07-08 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi all
Have any of you used iPassword? What does it mean by field password? How do you 
use it? I looked in the help file, but it just gave me visual stuff. Any help 
would be appreciated.

Jenn

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Re: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic devices USB

2014-07-08 Thread Tarapprakash
Could u plug in your original charger rather than using the cable that came 
with power backup?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Jim Fettgather jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:

 The strange thing is, charging does not begin after that message is 
 displayed, at least on my unit.
 I wonder if the problem could be in the provided cable that comes with the 
 unit?
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Pete Nalda
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: USB External Battery Pack 15600mAh (White Limefuel Blast L156X) 
 USB Charger with built-in Flashlight for Smartphones and other electronic 
 devices USB
 
 That comes up for me when charging with said battery pack as well. I just 
 ignore it.
 
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 Hello list.
 
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RE: Skype update and removing contacts

2014-07-08 Thread Anthony Vece
Sieghard;

 

If you have a pass code set, will this still work?

 

I'm confused.

 

Anthony

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Yes, any notification you double tap before you unlock your phone will take
you straight into the app once the phone is unlocked. If you don't lock your
phone with a passcode/fingerprint Skype would open right away from the lock
screen if you were to double tap a Skype notification.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

I also have a 5S iPhone and touch id function is active. So, what you do is
to double the skype icon on the lock screen first, before you hide it using
your fingerprint. Is that right?

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hi Ahmed,

 

Answering incoming Skype calls is a bit of a challenge especially if you use
a passcode. As far as I know you can't answer from the lock screen. If I
have quick access to my phone I can usually do it uickly enough, but I have
a 5S and use Touch Id which allows me to unlock the phone pretty quickly.
It's definitely a good idea to set Skype alerts to show on the lock screen
because then I can double tap on it in the lock screen, then use my
fingerprint to unlock and I'll be taken straight into the app where I can
find the answer button.

 

Regards,

Siegard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Sieghard,

 

I always receive skype calls while I am in the home screen, or the screen of
my phone is locked. When I try to answer the call, it is very difficult for
me to find to go to the skype app and answer the call quickly. Now, What is
the easiest and fastest way to answer a skype call? And are there any
specific notification settings, or any other possible settings that I need
to perform which can facilitate the process of answering skype calls?

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards

 

Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype update and removing contacts

 

Hello Jenny,

 

OK, I saw the Skype update this morning and know now where you saw this
about removing contacts. This has indeed changed a bit in this version of
Skype.

The easiest way to do this is to double tap on a contact, then once the
contact is open double tap o the contact name again at the top of the screen
which will show you the contacts profile. You can also get there by opening
a contact, then double tap the More button at the bottom right and select
Profile from the menu.

At the bottom of the profile is another More button and in this menu you
now have Block and Remove. There is no longer a Block and Remove
option as I assume that removing a contact will either block it
automatically or maybe it asks if you want to also block the contact if you
tap on Remove. Since I didn't have a contact to be removed I didn't try
this.

 

In the What's New they also mentioned that you can send voice messages, I
have not yet found where you can do this. I thought it would be in the media
menu where you can send a photo or video message, but those are still the
only 2 options in that menu.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Cristóbal
That's an incongruous statement on their part. The 4S's camera has the same
number of pixels as the 5S. Sure the cameras in the new iPhone models have
marginally improved, but the improvements haven't been anything substantial.
Much less important if you're just tryign to scan documents and not take
video or other types of photos. That and what if you've got a Mini or iPad
Air? If currently available OCR apps can work on older phones or tablets for
that tmatter, then that sure won't help convince people to spring for the
KNFB app. 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App

I agree, my ipod touch only has a 5mp camera.  This is why I would like to
try before I buy.  From what they said in the demo, it won't work as well
with older iphones.  From what I understand, this is because the older
iphones don't have the higher quality camera like the newest ones.

On 7/8/2014 7:02 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making 
 sure it works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning 
 pages, but chokes on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but 
 unless I can test that out ahead of time, I won't know that the app 
 will not work for me as well as it did for the guy in the podcast. 
 That's just an example; everyone has different use cases, 
 requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't understand why the 
 developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model that would let 
 each potential customer make sure the app is what they want and need
before spending all that money.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com 
 mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one 
 individual do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app 
 really works. After all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out.
 Using some patients and caution will yield good results in the end.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader 
 sent the following tweet earlier today:

 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.

 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others'
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I 
 personally find this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I
know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com 
 mailto:russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
 generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.

 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB 
 Reader  with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really 
 thrilled with his purchase and thought it was great value. He has  
 been using it for the past five years and it's been working 
 flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be seen to be believed!
 I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! It's a 
 steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other 
 available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.



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RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Lucy;

 

I also wish they still made the Optacon.

 

It is an amazing device.

 

However;

 

I'm sure there is politics involved.

 

Anthony

 

 

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Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

 

The Optacon is great! Wish they still made them.

 

 

 

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

 

Thanks Lucy for sharing this.

This sounds very promising.  Reminds me of the OPTACON shrunk down to one
finger size with speech output.  

It will be very interesting to see if it comes to market and at what price.

 

 

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OfEdmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

 

MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 5:06am
ET Associated Press

 

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and
immediate access to printed words.

 

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits like
a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. A
synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home
or office.

 

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks
the finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The
device has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the
script, said Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media
Lab.

 

For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader
is its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a
doctor's office and restaurants.

 

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read
before I sign them, Berrier said.

 

He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market
for those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read
in real time.

 

Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that
distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode
Island who have lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins
School for the Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.

 

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform
us about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,

Berrier said.

 

Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like
reading with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot
more immediate than any solution that they have right now.

 

Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, experimenting
with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of visually
impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market,
Shilkrot said, including making it work on cellphones.

 

Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

 

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners that
must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone,
Shilkrot said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of
raised dots that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said,
the new device would enable users to access a vast number of books and other
materials that are not currently available in Braille.

 

Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people with visual
impairments move their reading fingers along a straight line of printed text
that they could not see. Users also had to be alerted at the beginning and
end of the reading material.

 

Their solutions? Audio cues in the software that processes information from
the FingerReader and vibration motors in the ring.

 

The FingerReader can read papers, books, magazines, newspapers, computer
screens and other devices, but it has problems with text on a touch screen,
said Shilkrot.

 

That's because touching the screen 

RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Cristóbal
They would get more yield out of the app by doing a month to month
subscription model or another in-app purchase structure instead of the
one-shot deal. 

That and considering the targeted market (Which the NFB should be well aware
of), they would most likely be able to reach a wider base of paid customers
if they break down the price to a more manageable sum.

I wouldn't be averse to paying the $99.00, but considering the other iOS OCR
options that I already have, it would really have to do whatever is already
capable that much better than with what's currently available. 

For folks who really have to budget themselves, I can see how the price can
be off-putting. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App

 

I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort of)
testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the attitude;
they are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a refund, yet
plenty of models exist that would let users try before buying. Instead of
adopting such a model, though, they first blame Apple for not offering an
official app trial mechanism (see yesterday's tweet), then they say that
adopting a freemium model of some kind would be confusing. This, despite the
fact that plenty of apps, blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to
great success. Bottom line: they want a whole lot of money, but won't allow
a trial even though doing so would be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for
nothing at all, or claim it would be a lower-quality experience somehow.

On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:





Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be
ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB,
perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy
this app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask
them to scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not the
same as us doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just don't
think it's with getting that worked up over. After all, one of the main
reasons at this list is so beneficial is the fact that there are lots of
guinea pigs out there. There are a lot of people who will buy apps and test
them. We can learn from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on this
list along with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't
for these facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed
back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed along time ago.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it
works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes
on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that
out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as
it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has
different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't
understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model
that would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want
and need before spending all that money.

On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:





Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual
do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After
all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients
and caution will yield good results in the end.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the
following tweet earlier today:

 

@davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a
freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.

 

So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others'
experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find
this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?

On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:





I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th generation.
I have no plans on buying an iphone.

On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:



About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with
the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase
and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five
years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be
seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!!
It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with other

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
It's definitely possible to do this, developers on Android do it all 
the time, it's just a matter of whether Apple is willing to do it. For 
that price, I would also want a demo first.

Original message:

I do somewhat agree with you, Alex, if an app is that expensive some 
sort of trial is definitely a good idea. I do, however, also think 
Apple should change their policy and figure out a way for people to 
Test Drive an app so to speak. They announced this ne wthing where 
developers can create a video or something like that to show what their 
app can do, but that of course if probably of little value in most 
situations for a blind person. I like very little about Android when it 
comes to security, the fragmentation of the OS and the many devices, 
but the ability to buy an app and return it within a short time frame 
is very nice and I wish Apple could do something like that.Say you buy 
an app and your credit card or account credit is charged 30 minutes 
after downloading the app. If you downloaded it and found that it 
didn’t work you could do something simple which would void out the 
transaction. In any case something which is in line with Steve Jobb’s 
old “It just works” motto and of course you can do this only once for 
any particular app..



Regards,



Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall

Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App


I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort 
of) testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the 
attitude; they are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a 
refund, yet plenty of models exist that would let users try before 
buying. Instead of adopting such a model, though, they first blame 
Apple for not offering an official app trial mechanism (see yesterday's 
tweet), then they say that adopting a freemium model of some kind would 
be confusing. This, despite the fact that plenty of apps, 
blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to great success. Bottom 
line: they want a whole lot of money, but won't allow a trial even 
though doing so would be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for nothing at 
all, or claim it would be a lower-quality experience somehow.


On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:



Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test 
would be ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough 
pressure on an FB, perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a 
lot of us will not buy this app the first comes out. A lot of people on 
this list will. We can ask them to scan for certain things that we like 
to check out. Yes, it's not the same as us doing it, but there are 
other ways to manage this. I just don't think it's with getting that 
worked up over. After all, one of the main reasons at this list is so 
beneficial is the fact that there are lots of guinea pigs out there. 
There are a lot of people who will buy apps and test them. We can learn 
from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on this list along 
with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't for 
these facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed 
back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed along time ago.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making 
sure it works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning 
pages, but chokes on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but 
unless I can test that out ahead of time, I won't know that the app 
will not work for me as well as it did for the guy in the podcast. 
That's just an example; everyone has different use cases, requirements, 
and expectations, and I simply can't understand why the developers of 
this app refuse to adopt a simple model that would let each potential 
customer make sure the app is what they want and need before spending 
all that money.


On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:



Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one 
individual do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really 
works. After all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. 
Using some patients and caution will yield good results in the end.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent 
the following tweet earlier today:


@davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.


So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
experiences, or don't get the app; no 

Re: Skype update and removing contacts

2014-07-08 Thread Joseph FreeTech
yes, but you will be asked to enter your pass code it you have not entered 
it within the allotted time such as 1 minute, 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 1 hour, 
or 4 hours. Launch pass code and look around. I have been doing this since I 
began using my iDevice. Smile.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts


Sieghard;



If you have a pass code set, will this still work?



I'm confused.



Anthony





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts



Yes, any notification you double tap before you unlock your phone will take
you straight into the app once the phone is unlocked. If you don't lock your
phone with a passcode/fingerprint Skype would open right away from the lock
screen if you were to double tap a Skype notification.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts



I also have a 5S iPhone and touch id function is active. So, what you do is
to double the skype icon on the lock screen first, before you hide it using
your fingerprint. Is that right?



Best Regards



Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts



Hi Ahmed,



Answering incoming Skype calls is a bit of a challenge especially if you use
a passcode. As far as I know you can't answer from the lock screen. If I
have quick access to my phone I can usually do it uickly enough, but I have
a 5S and use Touch Id which allows me to unlock the phone pretty quickly.
It's definitely a good idea to set Skype alerts to show on the lock screen
because then I can double tap on it in the lock screen, then use my
fingerprint to unlock and I'll be taken straight into the app where I can
find the answer button.



Regards,

Siegard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ahmed Khater
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype update and removing contacts



Hello Sieghard,



I always receive skype calls while I am in the home screen, or the screen of
my phone is locked. When I try to answer the call, it is very difficult for
me to find to go to the skype app and answer the call quickly. Now, What is
the easiest and fastest way to answer a skype call? And are there any
specific notification settings, or any other possible settings that I need
to perform which can facilitate the process of answering skype calls?



Thank you.



Best Regards



Ahmed Khater

aakhater@gmail.com

It's always hope that gives meaning to life



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype update and removing contacts



Hello Jenny,



OK, I saw the Skype update this morning and know now where you saw this
about removing contacts. This has indeed changed a bit in this version of
Skype.

The easiest way to do this is to double tap on a contact, then once the
contact is open double tap o the contact name again at the top of the screen
which will show you the contacts profile. You can also get there by opening
a contact, then double tap the More button at the bottom right and select
Profile from the menu.

At the bottom of the profile is another More button and in this menu you
now have Block and Remove. There is no longer a Block and Remove
option as I assume that removing a contact will either block it
automatically or maybe it asks if you want to also block the contact if you
tap on Remove. Since I didn't have a contact to be removed I didn't try
this.



In the What's New they also mentioned that you can send voice messages, I
have not yet found where you can do this. I thought it would be in the media
menu where you can send a photo or video message, but those are still the
only 2 options in that menu.





Regards,

Sieghard



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Re: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

2014-07-08 Thread Mich
Hi yes I to agree I would be intiristed in if this will come to markit and the 
price it will cost.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:57 PM
  Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.


  Hi Lucy;

   

  I also wish they still made the Optacon.

   

  It is an amazing device.

   

  However;

   

  I'm sure there is politics involved.

   

  Anthony

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

   

  The Optacon is great! Wish they still made them.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

   

  Thanks Lucy for sharing this.

  This sounds very promising.  Reminds me of the OPTACON shrunk down to one 
finger size with speech output.  

  It will be very interesting to see if it comes to market and at what price.

   

 

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OfEdmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time.

 

MIT finger device reads to the blind in real time Tuesday - 7/8/2014, 
5:06am  ET Associated Press

 

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology are developing an audio reading device to be worn on the index 
finger of people whose vision is impaired, giving them affordable and immediate 
access to printed words.

 

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits 
like a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that scans text. 
A synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, restaurant 
menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially away from home or 
office.

 

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software tracks 
the finger movement, identifies words and processes the information. The device 
has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the script, said 
Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media Lab.

 

For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the FingerReader 
is its portability and offer of real-time functionality at school, a doctor's 
office and restaurants.

 

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read 
before I sign them, Berrier said.

 

He said there are other optical character recognition devices on the market 
for those with vision impairments, but none that he knows of that will read in 
real time.

 

Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that 
distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode Island 
who have lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins School for the 
Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.

 

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that inform 
us about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna be able to 
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it,

Berrier said.

 

Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces 
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like reading 
with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot more immediate 
than any solution that they have right now.

 

Developing the gizmo has taken three years of software coding, 
experimenting with various designs and working on feedback from a test group of 
visually impaired people. Much work remains before it is ready for the market, 
Shilkrot said, including making it work on cellphones.

 

Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market the 
FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential market 
includes some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision 
impairment, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

 

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners 
that must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by 
character-recognition software installed on a computer or smartphone, Shilkrot 
said. The FingerReader would not replace Braille -- the system of raised dots 
that form words, interpreted by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said, the new device 
would enable users to access a vast number of books and other materials that 
are not currently available in Braille.

 

Developers had to overcome unusual challenges to help people 

Re: Problem with Skype

2014-07-08 Thread Cara Quinn
I've seen this issue when making video calls.

I'm wondering if that might be what is going on here?...

Thanks,

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On Jul 7, 2014, at 11:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Ron,
 
I would suggest you try and delete Skype off your phone and then redownload it 
because I can't reproduce this at all neither with the last version or the one 
which just came out.
After I place a call I have End Call a bit up from the Home key, I just put 
my finger on the home button and move it straight up. Once I find End Call I 
can flick left for the in-call DialPad, for Mute and for Speakerphone On/Off.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem with Skype
 
Hi all,
 
I have a problem with not being able to do anything after I call someone. I 
don't get a menu on the screen that allows me to turn on the speaker or even 
hang up. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
By the way, I have the latest version that came out today but I had the same 
problem with the previous version.
 
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Adjusting the Speaking Rate of VoiceOver

2014-07-08 Thread Flor Lynch

Hi,

This should be a straightforward thing. How do I adjust the Speech Rate 
of VoiceOver? If I do it in Settings | General | Accessibility | 
Voiceover, by double-tapping on Speaking Rate, Adjustable, and then 
swipe up or down with one finger to adjust the value, all that happens 
then is that I run into the other VoiceOver settings for Sound Effects, 
Braille, this and that, but I can only slightly adjust the speech rate. 
(At the moment I am hovering at about 51%. I'd like to adjust that 
downward eventually to maybe about 11%.) Am using iOS7.1.2 or the latest 
iOS update on iPhone 5S. I mostly use braille, but needed to see if I 
could help a situation where braille reading/scrolling was a bit too 
slow in a particular newspaper app.)
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Angie Nutt
Hi,

As someone else said: they have iPod touch; what if there are no podcasts etc 
using those? What about older iPhones? Let's hope there will be info on what it 
will work with.

I used and loved it on N86 and would be willing to buy it provided I find it 
will do something better than what's already out there.

All the best
Angie


Sent from my iPad

 On 8 Jul 2014, at 15:02, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it 
 works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes 
 on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that 
 out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well as 
 it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has 
 different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't 
 understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model that 
 would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want and 
 need before spending all that money.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one individual 
 do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really works. After 
 all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using some patients 
 and caution will yield good results in the end.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent the 
 following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally find 
 this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
 generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
 past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR 
 have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now 
 sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
Then why on Earth don't we talk to the debs of text-grabber and all?
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On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 But it might be apples and oranges.
 Knfb reader is supposed to have text editing abilities in addition to
 scanning abilities. I certainly can't edit text with text detective. Can it
 be done with text grabber?
 In other words, though it is an app for the blind, it may have a feature set
 that makes it unique among scanning apps.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention
 of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results
 we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main
 stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps
 accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why
 bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we
 didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice
 and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the
 rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send
 signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that
 the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the
 quotes) That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame
 protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
 /Krister
 
 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past
 five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to
 be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for
 $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing it with
 other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese. 
 
 
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Re: Square card reader

2014-07-08 Thread Sumana Silverheels
Lois,
Did you experiment with a splitter to find out if you could use a headset 
with the square reader and have speech output through it? 
 

On Friday, April 18, 2014 6:31:48 AM UTC-4, Lois B wrote:

 I did some expensive experimenting yesterday to see how the square reader 
 worked with blue tooth, etc.  Bluetooth headphones do not work with the 
 card 
 reader plugged in, even if you turn it off and back on after plugging in 
 the 
 reader.  The splitter also did not work with regular headphones even 
 though 
 the splitter would work if only the reader was plugged in.  Maybe, it is 
 some sort of security feature that is built in.  The only way to use the 
 reader is to plug it in to swipe the card, then take it out again to sign 
 and finish the transaction.  The Bluetooth comes back when you take the 
 reader out, likewise the wired headphones. 

 If you have silence when you unplug the reader, you will know that the 
 swipe 
 was successful and you are at the signature screen.  After signing, you 
 wait 
 until you hear it was successful.  Before that, there is no speech.  I 
 will 
 get used to it eventually. 

 So, it does work, just has a few quirks. 

 Good luck, 
 Lois 





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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

will it do real time ocr?

On 7/7/2014 4:48 PM, Fred Olver wrote:

It will be available in late August.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: Becky beckyas...@gmail.com
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Hi all
When will you be able to purchase this app?
Vecky Sabo

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2014, at 12:18 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:

About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB 
Reader  with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled 
with his purchase and thought it was great value. He has been using it 
for the past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results 
of the OCR have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that 
this app now sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding 
application! Comparing it with other available OCR apps is like 
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How easy is the app to use? was RE: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

 

I have a question about this app, and more specificly how it worked on other
devices in the past.  I've heard it compared to other mainstream OCR apps on
the iPhone.  I'd like to hear from KNFB users who have used this app on
other devices.  How easy was it to use on these devices, and if you've used
other OCR apps on an iPhone, how does it compare with these apps?  I think
this will give us a more accurate idea about how easy the app will be to
use.

 

As for the cost of the app, in my opinion, I wouldn't have a problem paying
for it if it works as well as people say.  Only problem I may have is I
suspect the app won't work on an iPhone 4, so I'll have to save up for an
iPhone 6 to use it.  At least that's what I think the most logical thing to
do.

 

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

GO REDS!

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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
That one of the points I've wanted to make with my novel-sized posts on the mac 
and Apple.
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On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention of 
 the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results we 
 get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of main 
 stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps accessible, 
 the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why bother, and 
 once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we didn't want 
 when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice and all that 
 and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the rest, but some day 
 there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send signals to the 
 developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and that the only things 
 that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the quotes)
 That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame protective 
 suit because i sure gonna need it after this.
 /Krister
 
 7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:
 
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  with 
 the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his purchase 
 and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the past five 
 years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR have to be 
 seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now sells for $99!! 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
It better be able to read handwriting, large-print, any written printed text, 
and even braille. 
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r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 If the application can do well from about 20 feet, I assume that it would do 
 very well from 6 to 10 inches away when  scanning a document. I just hope 
 that there will be a trial version that we can test before paying  the full 
 price. Other than that, I think many should give them a break until they 
 release it. Then we can see for ourselves.
 
   Regards, Feliciano
 Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'd normally agree, and honestly I still don't know where I stand on this. 
 One thing to consider, though, is the cost of development compared to market 
 size. I'm not talking about just the app itself, but, as one person pointed 
 out on Twitter, this app has some heavy-duty OCR behind it. That probably 
 means commercially licensed OCR engines and other behind-the-scenes items 
 whose cost we don't know about. Is $99 a lot for this? Yes, and I probably 
 won't find it worth my own money. All I'm saying is that, given the 
 technology involved, there may be hidden costs that make it a more 
 reasonable price than it first appears... Maybe.
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:57 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 One of the things I really like about Apple, iOS in particular, is that it 
 has successfully allowed us to escape from the old business model of paying 
 a lot of money for assistive products.  No longer do we have to pay a high 
 price to access our screens because Apple included a free access package.  
 No longer do we have to pay a high price for OCR apps because sighted 
 people, who use and require the same apps, only need to pay a few dollars 
 for it and, therefore, so do we.  In my opinion, and this is just my 
 opinion, the marketing department of KNFB is doing us a tremendous 
 disservice by trying to bring back the 1980's and 1990's business model of 
 how assistive technology is distributed.  
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
 
 Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573
 
 Visit my blog
 http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
 
 Follow me on Twitter
 http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield
 
 
 David Goldfield,
Founder and Peer Coordinator
 
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 On 7/6/2014 6:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 All I can say is: there better be a demo version. Offer ten scans, pop up 
 alerts every minute, limit some functions... Somehow, though, they need to 
 release a lite version. If I'm going to drop half the cost of a new iPod 
 Touch on one app, I want to be absolutely sure it will meet my needs 
 first. If they offer only the $99 app with no way of testing it, well, 
 that's just a bad idea.
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Other platform OCR applications cost over $200. This is not priced too 
 high if it competes with the other OCR applications. I am curious on what 
 it can really do. I hear it can OCR text from 20ft away. 
 
 Regards, Feliciano
 Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:36 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 In my opinion, the price of this app, if it is indeed $99.00, is 
 insanely high and it won't be on my phone for that price.  However, 
 ultimately the market, as it always does, will decide.  I know some will 
 purchase it at this price.  If enough people don't, then the folks at 
 KNFB will have to make some decisions about the price.  If enough people 
 buy it at $99.00, then the app will likely remain at that price for some 
 time.
 
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
 
 Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573
 
 Visit my blog
 http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
 
 Follow me on Twitter
 http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield
 
 
 David Goldfield,
Founder and Peer Coordinator
 
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 On 7/6/2014 6:32 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
 These companies just don't get it.
 Most people like accessibility off the shelf.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Betty Emmons bettycemm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the 
 house. while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go.
 Betty Emmons
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Turner
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:10 PM
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 If it was $30 I 

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
I will never buy an app the price of my iPod. Ever.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in speed 
 and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to think 
 people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few seconds 
 than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo.
 Just my opinion.
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and 
 will be available by the end of August.
 Andy
 I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
 
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Importing Garageband projects from my Mac to my I phone.

2014-07-08 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I want to know how I can import my Garage band project from my Mac to my I 
phone please?  I hope I'm not being moderated as I've sent no spam.

Kawal.

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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
Yes but my gosh, access note was overpriced, and under featured. Look, you have 
to have a bluetooth keyboard or braille display to even get all the benefits 
that it offers. It doesn't open pdf files, it doesn't open epub files, my gosh 
its terrible!
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Yes, Apple did all of that, but at the same time they use a lot of 
 proprietary hardware and software which makes a lot of their devices and 
 accessories a lot more expensive than the competition and yet people have no 
 problems forking out $30 or $35 for a stupid little Lightning to 30 PIN 
 adapter which is roughly the size of a double A battery or a 3 foot piece of 
 cable with a USB plug on one end and a 30-Pin or Lightning plug on the other. 
 A comparible Micro USB cable would cost about $5 or $8.
 I don't really blame Apple for this, they charge what people are willing to 
 pay, but I am sure KNFB put a lot of time and expertise in developing the iOS 
 version of KNFB Reader and from what I have heard so far it may do some 
 things which Prizmo or Text Grabber won't do so I think once again we should 
 all just wait until the app is released before passing the guilty verdict. 
 $99 is expensive for most apps, but I have seen other apps on the App Store 
 which cost that and much more and which are made for a particular target 
 market.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghardthere are other specialized
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
  
 One of the things I really like about Apple, iOS in particular, is that it 
 has successfully allowed us to escape from the old business model of paying a 
 lot of money for assistive products.  No longer do we have to pay a high 
 price to access our screens because Apple included a free access package.  No 
 longer do we have to pay a high price for OCR apps because sighted people, 
 who use and require the same apps, only need to pay a few dollars for it and, 
 therefore, so do we.  In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, the 
 marketing department of KNFB is doing us a tremendous disservice by trying to 
 bring back the 1980's and 1990's business model of how assistive technology 
 is distributed.  
 
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
  
 Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573
  
 Visit my blog
 http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
  
 Follow me on Twitter
 http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield
  
  
 David Goldfield,
Founder and Peer Coordinator
  
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 On 7/6/2014 6:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 All I can say is: there better be a demo version. Offer ten scans, pop up 
 alerts every minute, limit some functions... Somehow, though, they need to 
 release a lite version. If I'm going to drop half the cost of a new iPod 
 Touch on one app, I want to be absolutely sure it will meet my needs first. 
 If they offer only the $99 app with no way of testing it, well, that's just a 
 bad idea.
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Other platform OCR applications cost over $200. This is not priced too high 
 if it competes with the other OCR applications. I am curious on what it can 
 really do. I hear it can OCR text from 20ft away. 
  
 Regards, Feliciano
 Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
  
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:36 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 In my opinion, the price of this app, if it is indeed $99.00, is insanely 
 high and it won't be on my phone for that price.  However, ultimately the 
 market, as it always does, will decide.  I know some will purchase it at this 
 price.  If enough people don't, then the folks at KNFB will have to make some 
 decisions about the price.  If enough people buy it at $99.00, then the app 
 will likely remain at that price for some time.
 
 
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.DavidGoldfield.info
  
 Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573
  
 Visit my blog
 http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com
  
 Follow me on Twitter
 http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield
  
  
 David Goldfield,
Founder and Peer Coordinator
  
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 On 7/6/2014 6:32 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
 These companies just don't get it.
 Most people like accessibility off the shelf.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s!
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Betty Emmons bettycemm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the house. 
 while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go.
 Betty Emmons
 - 

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
Totally agreed. And it may just go free like access note, LOL
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Betty Emmons bettycemm...@gmail.com wrote:

 for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the house. 
 while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go.
 Betty Emmons
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Turner
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:10 PM
 Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App
 
 If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in speed 
 and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to think 
 people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few seconds 
 than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo.
 Just my opinion.
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and 
 will be available by the end of August.
 Andy
 I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
 
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girafe scanner stand

2014-07-08 Thread Mary Otten
Hi all,

Does anybody on the list have the giraffe, stand that is suppose to help get 
good scans when using a phone? I'm familiar with standscan, but I have to say, 
the thought of paying 50 bucks for cardboard is not particularly thrilling. Has 
anybody compared the giraffe with the standscan? I've certainly had poor luck 
with ocr and my phone when not using a stand. I gather that the demo for the 
knfb was not using a stand but am not sure. In any case, I'd be interested to 
hear peoples' experiences with the giraffe. 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
$99? That's laughable and sad at the same time.
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Mary Otten
I don't think speed is the only issue here. If it really can do PowerPoint 
slides, as they claim, and if it gets better results is it so picky, then it 
would probably be worth for some people. I have never had good results with an 
OCR app on my phone. If I could get decent results with this app, I would pay 
for it.
Mary


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 On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in speed 
 and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to think 
 people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few seconds 
 than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo.
 Just my opinion.
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: finding the settings option using the xm radio app from the i phone

2014-07-08 Thread Randy Stegall
At the bottom of the SiriusXM app there is a row of buttons. I select one of 
these and perform a 3-finger swipe from right to left. The settings button is 
the last one on that row.

Randy
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 Could you let me know exactly what you are trying to accomplish. I looked 
 around and I didn't see a settings button per se, but you can add stations to 
 favorites and do certain other things with the app.
 
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 I'm trying to locate the settings option from the sirius xm app.  I'm using 
 the iphone 4 s and the iphone 5 s.  I can't find it with Seri and the  voice 
 over feature.  If anyone has any ideas as to how I can find this option 
 please let me know.  Thanks.
 
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Mary Otten
Apple does not allow trials, do they? I thought that has been a long-standing 
Apple policy. So if there is no trial, it is not KN FB's fault.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 6, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 The demo was impressive, but the reading material was preselected and 
 prepared.
  
 Andy
  
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
 Hi Andy,
  
 Thanks for that information, that price means that I would only buy it if it 
 was absolutely outstanding and much better than Text Grabber or Prizmo in 
 several areas. For me those would be primarily in ease of use and the ability 
 to take good pictures and of course regonition quality.
  
 I hope they offer some sort of way to try out the app, maybe a free version 
 which allows you to take 10 pictures or something like that.
  
 While the price is on the high side, it is, however, not as bad as some 
 people have speculated a few weeks ago when people thought it would cost $300 
 or $500 and it’s certainly a far cry from the $1,500 it cost when it was 
 aavailable for the Symbean platform.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and 
 will be available by the end of August.
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Re: NFB app?

2014-07-08 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It best work with the I phone 6 as that is what I'm getting next.

Kawal.
On 5 Jul 2014, at 14:54, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I would be interested in knowing how well this app will work with my 5th 
 generation ipod touch or my ipad mini?  I don't have an iphone.
 
 On 7/4/2014 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi David,
 
 I assume we listened to the same recording. I did not find the
 presenters to be all that evasive when it comes to currency. They simply
 said that at this point the app did not recognize money, but that maybe
 down the road it would. In any case, with an app like LookTel Money
 Reader which supports quite a few currencies and works so well I don't
 think it's a big deal whether the KNFB Reader app does that or not.
 
 I don't want to endorse the app before it's available or before we know
 how much of a premium they will charge and I do want to point out that I
 am not a beta tester, but I must say that I look forward to finding out
 how much it will be and of course to hear a well-done Podcast and user
 feedback about it.
 
 One thing I have been meaning to find out and maybe you know this is
 whether Prizmo and Text Grabber do the recognition on the phone or
 whether the image is uploaded, recognized on a server and the text is
 sent back. They did mention that KNFB Reader does not require a data
 connection to work and that is certainly good, but as I said, I don't
 know if the other popular apps share this ability.
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David Chittenden
 *Sent:* Friday, July 04, 2014 5:51 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: NFB app?
 
 I listened to the privately recorded Audio Boo of the KNFB Reader
 presentation which was announced and linked to on Top Tech Tidbits.
 
 1) The presentation was a first-rate demonstration of showmanship. It
 was very obviously completely pre-rehearsed, such that the presenters
 were able to present 100% flawless scans with perfect first-time images
 whilst properly exciting / working the crowd. All the items scanned were
 preselected, so the presenters obviously knew the items would work. The
 recognition speed was the same as the speed in TextGrabber.
 
 So, what does KNFB Reading Technologies contribute to the OCR arena?
 Aside from the fact that they are a company focused specifically on
 blindness access (which will make them far superior to everybody else in
 some people's eyes)? It appears that KNFB Reader is primed to take the
 picture whilst the iOS device is laying flat on the page. After
 activating the onscreen button, one lifts the device until the camera
 automatically activates. Therefore, the image is either assessing blank
 white space, page edge detection, or both.
 
 Given the cheerleading and the lack of specific detail given in the
 presentation, I will bet KNFB Reading Technologies will be charging a
 significant premium for this implementation of the technology. I do hope
 I am wrong.
 
 Oh, one final note, the Reader will not support currency in its initial
 version, and the presenters were evasive about if and when such may
 become available in the future.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
 
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On 5 Jul 2014, at 3:08, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
 mailto:goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
 
Did anyone catch the presentation from the NFB convention this
morning on their upcoming app for scanning? Was a price given? Is
there a place where one can go to listen to it later?
 
Fred Olver
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fred.olver
Skype: Fred.olver1
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as a kindel download from amazon.
 
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Re: MSS hardware accessory stand EZwazes: mobile delivery service — anything/everything…

2014-07-08 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
May be someone wishes to make a quick buck?



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 On 6 Jul 2014, at 06:27 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kevin,
  
 You seem to be tied in with this Mobile Scanning Solution and I just thought 
 I point out that while this accessory sounds interesting and I listened to 
 both the Youtube and Audio Boo presentation, it would go a long way for me if 
 the presenter at least introduced himself and his team by name. I would also 
 take this a lot more seriously if the company had a well-designed website 
 with information about the Mobile Scanning Solution and the other stuff they 
 do as well as a way to place secure online orders either via paypal or with a 
 credit card. This should also include a
 return policy/guaranty for a refund should one not like the product.
  
 I think your  initial introduction of the product without any details and a 
 request to email you personally as well as your request to pay you via Paypal 
 turned a lot of people off this accessory. I remember somebody asking how big 
 this would be folded up and I don’t think this even is collapsible like the 
 Standscan, but once again none of this information came across in the Youtube 
 presentation.
  
 Incidently I did email you directly and while I remember getting a reply with 
 something like “Thanks for your interest”, I never received any product 
 details. Just thought I convey my thoughts regarding this; this product was 
 just not introduced in a very professional way and I’m sure I’m not the only 
 person who doesn’t use Twitter and spends as little time on Facebook as 
 possible. Without an informative website people like me basically have no way 
 to really check out the product.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
  
  
 R
  
 and the ability It would also, the credibility of the company would at least 
 for me be a lot
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Kevin Chao
 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: MSS hardware accessory stand  EZwazes: mobile delivery service — 
 anything/everything…
  
 I just listened to this Audioboo and thought that you should hear it too
 
 MSS hardware accessory stand  EZwazes: mobile delivery service — 
 anything/everything…
 
 Do you boo? It's easy. Check out audioboo.fm for info!
 
 http://audioboo.fm/boos/2306112-mss-hardware-accessory-stand-ezwazes-mobile-delivery-service-anything-everything
 
 
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Voice Dream reader and protected content

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Listers,

Can I listen to protected ebooks like e-pub or protected pdf files in Voice 
Dream Reader?

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: AccessNote is now free - this is not a limited time offer

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
That's good that its now free, as it should have always been.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 4, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello,
 
 After answering David's question about AccessNote and whether it was free
 for a limited time or whether it was now just a free app I realized this
 would be better in a new thread with appropriate subject. I am therefore
 reposting my message and to summarize, yes, AccessNote has become a free
 app.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:16 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: looking ForAn App For App Deals
 
 Hi David,
 
 Yes, Access Note, which used to be $19.99, is now free. In an article on the
 AFB website it says the following:
 
 The American Foundation for the Blind Offers New and Expanded Free Apps to
 Help People with Vision Loss 
 New York (June 25, 2014
 
 The American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) today launched the all-new
 CareerConnect AppT, a tool for professionals, job seekers, parents and
 youth, and announced that AccessNoteR, a specialized notetaker for people
 who are visually impaired, will soon be available for use on Android
 devices. Thanks to generous support from funders, AFB is making AccessNote
 (formerly $19.99 in the Apple App Store) available free of charge.
 
 Based on AFB's popular CareerConnectR web program, the CareerConnect app is
 designed to be used on the go for job search tips, quick lesson ideas, and
 career advice. Key features include the CareerConnect blog tab, providing
 current info about navigating the employment process; transition-related
 lesson plans grouped by topic; and Our Stories, packed with informative
 personal stories from people who are blind or visually impaired and
 successfully employed in various fields.
 
 AccessNote, originally released in 2013 for use with iOS devices, is the
 first notetaking app developed and designed specifically for users with
 vision loss. AccessNote has been lauded for its user-friendly features such
 as easy text navigation, DropBox integration, compatibility with Bluetooth
 keyboards and wireless braille displays, and its powerful search function.
 
 We're always looking for ways to expand access to technology for people who
 are blind or visually impaired, said Carl R. Augusto, AFB president and
 CEO. Based on the popularity of the CareerConnect website and the original
 version of AccessNote we realized it was crucial to further develop these
 programs and offer them for free to a wider audience.
 
 The CareerConnect app is available for download for iOS, and AFB will be
 adding new features through the coming year. AccessNote will be available
 for download for iOS and Android.
 
 The link to the article is:
 http://www.afb.org/info/about-us/press-room/afb-offers-new-and-expanded-free
 -apps-to-help-people-with-vision-loss/125
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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Re: Apps to make domestic calls

2014-07-08 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
do you have to sign up from in the app or can you go to vonage.com and 
sign up there?


On 7/4/2014 11:04 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Joseph,

vonage has a free app independent from its service to paying
subscribers.  Anyone can receive 3,000 minutes of free calling.  If
the company doesn't have a credit card number, one can't be charged.
FreedomPop made its iPhone app available earlier this year and offers
200 minutes a month of free calling.  I use all three with my T-Mobile
service that provides only 100 minutes of calling a month.

Kelly



On 7/4/14, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, it probably was a dictation bug abetment Vonage

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 4, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Joseph and Kelly,

Skype was already recommended and Kelly, since you pointed out that you
are
on a slow internet connection it might be one of the best as their
compression is quite good. Of course it's not completely free although
the
approx. $30 or $31 annually paid subscription for unlimited North America
wide calling is quite inexpensive.

Any Voip app will have it's difficulties with a slow connection. Have you
run a speedtest to see what your speeds are?

Also, Joseph, was this a cute SIRI dictation bug? I mean the fact that
you
hopefully meant Vonage because for Bondage you are probably on the
wrong
list *smile*.


Take care,
Sieghard


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Behalf
Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apps to make domestic calls

Hi Kelly, I know that magicJack will not allow you to call conference
lines
I've tried it. As for bondage, they will tag something on dear Bill in
order
to make money I found that out through a friend.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 3, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

the totally free calling apps are magic jack, vonage and FreedomPop.
I don't know about conference lines and area code 712.  Try them out
and report back.

Kelly




On 7/3/14, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Skype will allow you to do this as long as you can buy credit.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 3, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Ann cradlingarm...@gmail.com wrote:



Sent from my iPhone hello, is anyone heard of any recent apps were
you can make domestic calls? I'm looking for something that's
totally voiceover compatible, makes domestic calls, and let you call
conference lines and the 712 area code. Thank you in advance for any
help PS, I'm on a very slow Internet connection

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has any one updated to the newest update to i blink radio?

2014-07-08 Thread adrian
Has any one updated to the newest update to i blink radio. in this update it 
wil allow a individual to download content to there device.It all so has 
stability improvements.

```Sent from my iPad

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Re: Apps to make domestic calls

2014-07-08 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
don't you have to have the vonage service all ready  to get  the free 
service?



On 7/3/2014 4:14 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

the totally free calling apps are magic jack, vonage and FreedomPop.
I don't know about conference lines and area code 712.  Try them out
and report back.

Kelly



On 7/3/14, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, Skype will allow you to do this as long as you can buy credit.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 3, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Ann cradlingarm...@gmail.com wrote:



Sent from my iPhone hello, is anyone heard of any recent apps were you can
make domestic calls? I'm looking for something that's totally voiceover
compatible, makes domestic calls, and let you call conference lines and
the 712 area code. Thank you in advance for any help
PS, I'm on a very slow Internet connection

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Multiple signatures on the I phone.

2014-07-08 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I am wondering if there is a way to have multiple signatures in your I phone 
message please as I have multiple e-mails that I use to send from as at the 
moment, i am using my alias but have to use my proper account when not dealing 
with list traffic. I hope this email is not too confusing.

Thank you.

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Re: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones

2014-07-08 Thread Flor Lynch
There are also several apps, many of them free, available if you type hearing 
aid in the search field. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Pelletier 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:27 PM
  Subject: RE: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones


  Hi Bill,

   

  I have an app which, I hope, can help you a lot if it still exists. It is 
called Awareness. I found it in the app store about 1 year ago.  Its purpose 
is to pick-up ambient sounds from  the iPhone's microphone and send it to your 
earphones so, if walking with music, the ambient sound can reduce the music and 
let you hear it.

   

  Don't know if it will do the trick for your type of hearing problem but it 
sure sounds like its worth a try.

   

  I found it just by writing Awareness in the search field of the app store.

   

  Good luck and let me know

   

  Ron  Danvers

   

   

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Bill Gallik
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:11 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones

   

  Well Folks;

   

  I'm going to divulge here that I have a serious hearing problem in my right 
ear; this is due mostly to the fact that the mechanics of good hearing -- the 
eardrum, stirrup, anvil and hammer inside the ear -- are gone due to a chronic 
infection as a child.

   

  However, I've discovered that the Bluez design to use bone conduction for 
delivering sound to the hearing processing in the brain has rendered a dramatic 
balance in excellent hearing on both ears.  Does anybody know of an iOS app 
that will take advantage of this and deliver ambient environmental sounds to 
the earphones that I might take advantage of this interesting phenomena?

   

   

  
  Holland's Boy, Bill
  - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
  - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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Re: Adjusting the Speaking Rate of VoiceOver

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
You are in the right place, but find that adjustable item and simply swipe up 
or down. That is, don't double tap on it first, just move to it and swipe. It 
should adjust in five percent increments. Also be sure that the up/down swipe 
is fast enough; it sounds like you may be moving your finger too slowly, and 
having the gesture interpreted as simply moving your finger on the screen. The 
up/down flick should be as fast as a left/right flick.
On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This should be a straightforward thing. How do I adjust the Speech Rate of 
 VoiceOver? If I do it in Settings | General | Accessibility | Voiceover, by 
 double-tapping on Speaking Rate, Adjustable, and then swipe up or down with 
 one finger to adjust the value, all that happens then is that I run into the 
 other VoiceOver settings for Sound Effects, Braille, this and that, but I can 
 only slightly adjust the speech rate. (At the moment I am hovering at about 
 51%. I'd like to adjust that downward eventually to maybe about 11%.) Am 
 using iOS7.1.2 or the latest iOS update on iPhone 5S. I mostly use braille, 
 but needed to see if I could help a situation where braille reading/scrolling 
 was a bit too slow in a particular newspaper app.)
 TIA for assistance. 
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RE: Square card reader

2014-07-08 Thread Lois Butterfield
Yes, and it would not work at all once the reader is plugged in.  I found that 
the easiest way to handle it was to plug it in to swipe, then unplug it to get 
speech back.

 

I’d love to know if anyone has been successful with a splitter or with 
Bluetooth.  I found that they did not work for me.

 

Lois

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sumana Silverheels
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Square card reader

 

Lois,

Did you experiment with a splitter to find out if you could use a headset with 
the square reader and have speech output through it? 

 


On Friday, April 18, 2014 6:31:48 AM UTC-4, Lois B wrote:

I did some expensive experimenting yesterday to see how the square reader 
worked with blue tooth, etc.  Bluetooth headphones do not work with the card 
reader plugged in, even if you turn it off and back on after plugging in the 
reader.  The splitter also did not work with regular headphones even though 
the splitter would work if only the reader was plugged in.  Maybe, it is 
some sort of security feature that is built in.  The only way to use the 
reader is to plug it in to swipe the card, then take it out again to sign 
and finish the transaction.  The Bluetooth comes back when you take the 
reader out, likewise the wired headphones. 

If you have silence when you unplug the reader, you will know that the swipe 
was successful and you are at the signature screen.  After signing, you wait 
until you hear it was successful.  Before that, there is no speech.  I will 
get used to it eventually. 

So, it does work, just has a few quirks. 

Good luck, 
Lois 




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Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard

2014-07-08 Thread Johnna Simmons
On a Bluetooth keyboard which one which key is the voiceover key

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Hi Christopher,
 Thanks for explain the Bluetooth keyboard keys.  That now makes more sense
 to me as I use a pc keyboard all the time.
 
 Ed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
 
 Control and option are the VoiceOver keys. Note on a PC keyboard it would be
 control and alt since the alt key simulates the option key.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 02/07/2014 18:56, Pinky wrote:
 Hi Group,
 Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on 
 the Bluetooth keyboard?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Ed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth 
 Keyboard
 
 Hi Teresa,
 
 Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same 
 type of tutorial just a week or two ago. Smile. It seems as though 
 many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going 
 to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are 
 deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for 
 possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, 
 then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well
 as cluttering the list with redundant requests.
 
 Am I wrong?
 
 If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a 
 Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into
 folders... Smile.
 
 For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move 
 apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to 
 move my apps
 around:
 
 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth 
 keyboard is paired.
 Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 
 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug).
 
 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus 
 on the app I want to move.
 
 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I 
 get the message informing me that I'm moving X app.
 
 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 
 3 to Home screen 1.
 Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the 
 screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem 
 to reliably do the job.
 
 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, 
 and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M.
 
 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and 
 whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear 
 anything, I swipe to right a couple of times.
 
 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to 
 normal.
 
 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the 
 app I moved is there.
 
 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually 
 informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me 
 the app has been moved.
 
 10. All done moving app. Smile.
 
 For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y 
 without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this...
 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth 
 keyboard is paired.
 
 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus 
 on the app I want to move.
 
 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I 
 get the message informing me that I'm moving X app.
 
 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 
 3 to Home screen 1.
 Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the 
 screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem 
 to reliably do the job.
 
 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two 
 apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of 
 the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the 
 following
 command: VO+Shift+letter M.
 
 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title.
 
 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder 
 creation process.
 
 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button 
 once to return the focus back to normal.
 
 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the 
 left to access the very last app on the current Home screen.
 
 10. If all went well the app will have 

Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Mich
well not only that but the fact is that shure all these apps can do alot of 
things like say read things like menues or other things and wile that is all 
well and good from a pracktil day to day life situwation not many of us go 
out for dinner say alone and like others have pointed out no one wants to be 
sitting with a group of friends or something and spending 10 minnits trying 
to read a menu with our fancy phone when the rest of the people have disided 
what they want to eat etc. in short no OCR app will ever replace a good and 
working set of humin eyes and this also includes the conversation that might 
arise from asking questions like hey can you read this to me? well these are 
my thoughts. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App


That one of the points I've wanted to make with my novel-sized posts on the 
mac and Apple.

Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
wrote:


Hi, i think it is sad, almost tragic that we once again need a reinvention 
of the wheel in this case the KNFB reader to be satisfied with the results 
we get. This can, in the worst scenario send a signal to developers of 
main stream apps that they need not make the effort to make their apps 
accessible, the blindies have their own special apps that they use so why 
bother, and once again we'll be directed to the situation that we said we 
didn't want when the IPhone first became accessible. Yes there's a choice 
and all that and people choose what ever tool fits the task and all the 
rest, but some day there won't be this choice because we repeatedly send 
signals to the developers that their effort ain't gonna satisfy us and 
that the only things that will are the blind ghetto solutions. (note the 
quotes)
That's my rant for today, now off my soap box and put on a flame 
protective suit because i sure gonna need it after this.

/Krister


7 jul 2014 kl. 20:15 skrev AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com:

About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader 
with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the OCR 
have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app now 
sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! Comparing 
it with other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with cheese.



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Re: Apps to make domestic calls

2014-07-08 Thread Marco Chan
How about Fongo or tango!

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Jul, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 the totally free calling apps are magic jack, vonage and FreedomPop.
 I don't know about conference lines and area code 712.  Try them out
 and report back.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 7/3/14, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, Skype will allow you to do this as long as you can buy credit.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 3, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Ann cradlingarm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone hello, is anyone heard of any recent apps were you can
 make domestic calls? I'm looking for something that's totally voiceover
 compatible, makes domestic calls, and let you call conference lines and
 the 712 area code. Thank you in advance for any help
 PS, I'm on a very slow Internet connection
 
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Re: Streaming Music Services!

2014-07-08 Thread Flor Lynch
The person may wonder why it is not available to them, and it isn't 
obvious to a beginner (of which there are several). Nobody said iTunes 
Radio oir any of  the other georestricted music streaming services are 
worthless. I understand from the media that there are plans to extend 
iTunes Radio to some other countries in September.


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From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Streaming Music Services!


Yes but why state the obvious again.  If it isn't available where, there 
is
nothing you can do about it and there is that chance too that somebody 
else

may make use of it or send it to another friend etc.  So, just because
somebody can't get it doesn't necessarily make it worthless.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: Streaming Music Services!


Hi Allen and others,

Just FYI, iTunes Radio is currently only available in the US and 
Austrailia.

I don't know where Christine is from and she didn't say, but there are
certainly enough people from outside the US on this list to keep in mind
that not all services available in the States are an option.
Here in Canada, for example, neither Spotify, Rhapsody, iTunes Radio nor
Pandora are an option.

Regards,

Sieghard


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Behalf

Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Streaming Music Services!

And of course there's iTunes radio right on your iPhone etc.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: janet wright jan...@wrighthere.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: Streaming Music Services!


there is I tunes match, pandora, and spotify I like pandora the best and
there is also tuen in radio and I blink radio and I heart radio where 
you

can listen to music hope this helps



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing 
to

wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- 

From: Christine Pierce

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Streaming Music Services!

Hello, I am trying to find the best streaming music service. I was
wondering if VoiceOver worked with which streaming service, or does
VoiceOver work with all of the streaming music service? Also, I like
all kinds of music, but my favorite music is 60s and 70s pop, soul,
and country. Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Christine

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Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard

2014-07-08 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Teresa,

I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I think 
you are a braille user, yes?
 I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not too 
bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take advantage of 
this method there.

Mary
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RE: Apple TV using the IPhone as the controler.

2014-07-08 Thread Julie Bentley
How do you pair the Bluetooth keyboard with the Apple TV box?  Do you sign
in each time you turn on Netflix through Apple TV?

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV using the IPhone as the controler.

 

I love my apple tv.  if you can master a set of arrow keys and enter you
pretty much have the thing licked.

there isn't a much simpler interface out there.  if you are going to do a
lot of searching, it is worth pairing a bluetooth keyboard as typing on the
on screen keyboard is doable but quite slow imho
Brian.



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On 01/07/2014 11:30 AM, Julie Bentley wrote:

Thank you.  I gave up on Chromecast and bought Apple TV.  It was super easy
to set up.  Thanks for the advise about the controller.  Any tutorials about
using Apple TV out there?

 

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Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV using the IPhone as the controler.

 

Julie, in my opinion apple Tv is a lot easier to use netflix with than
anything else. I would even go as far as not using Crhomecast, and just use
airplay to stream music to your apple Tv from your phone. Netflix is a lot
easier layout wise on the apple Tv. I use it almost daily and it's much
easier than most things out there using the phone. The phone can be used as
an apple Tv controller but it can be a pain to set up and it's almost just
easier to use the  Apple Tv controller itself. If you have any further
questions don't hesitate to yell. Thanks and take care.  

On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Julie Bentley ju...@dolcoaching.com wrote:






I guess the second part of my question is.  Anyone on this list have
experience with Apple TV?  Is it just plane easier than Chromecast?  Is
Netflix easier or more accessible to use through the Apple TV ap?

 

Thanks for any info!

Julie Bentley

 

 

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Combining two folders by the same name into one

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Listers,

I've done a silly thing: I've created two folders containing the same type of 
applications and called them the same name.  How can I resolve this?  I'd like 
to combine them into one folder by the name already used in both cases.  Can 
you give me some clues as to how to accomplish it?

Thanks 

Andrew

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RE: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

2014-07-08 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

 

I only used Siri one time, but when I did, all I did was hold the Home
button down until I heard a tone, then I released the button and told Siri
what I wanted to do.  As I said I have only used Siri one time, so it may
not work the way I think.

 

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

kmino...@outlook.com mailto:kmino...@outlook.com 

 

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mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com  wrote:





Hello all,

I am on an iPhone 5S and I shut down and rebooted my phone after the latest
update. I have been able to hold down the home button while using Siri until
I am done talking. However, now, Siri cuts me off and starts responding
before I am done talking even though I am still holding down the home
button. It is extremely frustrating. If I ask Siri to text someone I only
get two words in past their name. Then Siri cuts me off and reads back a
short two word text because Siri won't let me finish. :( No matter how many
times I do this, Siri continually cuts me off, even if i talk really fast or
really slow or really loud or normal. This just started yesterday after the
update. 

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: limeade 15600mah battery

2014-07-08 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,

amazon is really the only vendor i found.
the 15,600 was $45 and the 18,000 was $79.
Bryan Schulz

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: limeade 15600mah battery


Fred,

It all depends where you want to buy them. Amazon is a good place to look,
all of them can easily be found by searching for Limefuel or Limefuel
followed by the various model names like L156X, L180X or L240X. Just
as one example, the L156X is $49.99 on sale for $39.99 right now on the
American Amazon site.

Regards,
SieghardIf you check Amazon

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Of Fred Olver
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: limeade 15600mah battery

What is the cost of these heavy little dudes?

Fred Olver
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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: limeade 15600mah battery


Hi Linda,

According to Amazon the Blast L156X which is the 15,600 MAH model, weighs
12.8 ounces. The next model up, the Blast L180X which has a capacity of
18,000 MAH weighs 13.4 ounces, only 0.6 ounces more. Also, when you search
for these on Amazon or if you are looking for the company's website, keep in
mind that the company is no longer called Limeaid, but LimeFuel. Here
are the specs of their 3 largest Blast models, they also have a Rugged model
with 15,000 MAH made for outdoor use. This information is from Amazon since
I couldn't find any place on the Limefuel website where they listed the
dimensions and weights of their batteries.

LimeFuel Blast L156X
Size: 4.88 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 12.8 ounces

LimeFuel Blast L180X
Size: 4.88 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 13.44 ounces

LimeFuel Blast L240X
Size: 6.1 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 1.11 pounds (17.76 ounces)


Regards,
Sieghard
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Of Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: limeade 15600mah battery

Hi Brian,

I am considering purchasing this model. About how much do you think it
weighs?

Thank you,

Lynda

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:52 PM
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Subject: limeade 15600mah battery

hi,

The Limeade 15600 external battery pack is a bit heavier than I expected but
it will charge your iphone 5s about ten times.
For those who are completely blind, you can just guess on 12 hours to charge
the Limeade 15600mah battery.
The flashlight will blink when the pack is charging then stay on solid when
you should unplug the pack.
The pack will not be damaged if you can't see the light or forget to unplug
it as it includes a circuit board to prevent over charging.
Answers from supp...@limefuel.com were quick and helpful.
Bryan Schulz

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Re: Recommendations for barcode reader app

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Thanks all for your comments on barcode readers.  Very helpful and they give me 
hope.

Andrew
On 1 Jul 2014, at 15:53, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Andrew,
 
 Eileen's suggestion to first use Camfind is a very good one. With Camfind
 you just take a picture of the package without having to worry about finding
 the barcode and more often than not it will come back with the correct
 information as to what you have.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:14 AM
 To: VIPhone
 Subject: Recommendations for barcode reader app
 
 Listers,
 
 Is there a reliable barcode reader app which a blind person could use to
 identify items purchased in supermarkets?  I wonder how a blind person would
 know where the barcode is situated.
 
 Any experiences?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: limeade 15600mah battery

2014-07-08 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,

the size is about 4.8 long, 3.1 wide and 1 thick.
the sides are rounded and the ends are flat with all ports and light at one 
end.
since i didn't have time to mess around with possibly killing it, i also 
purchased the dual usb port wall charger and the stiff shell zipper pouch as 
a package deal for about $85.

Bryan Schulz


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: limeade 15600mah battery


Hi Linda,

According to Amazon the Blast L156X which is the 15,600 MAH model, weighs
12.8 ounces. The next model up, the Blast L180X which has a capacity of
18,000 MAH weighs 13.4 ounces, only 0.6 ounces more. Also, when you search
for these on Amazon or if you are looking for the company's website, keep in
mind that the company is no longer called Limeaid, but LimeFuel. Here
are the specs of their 3 largest Blast models, they also have a Rugged model
with 15,000 MAH made for outdoor use. This information is from Amazon since
I couldn't find any place on the Limefuel website where they listed the
dimensions and weights of their batteries.

LimeFuel Blast L156X
Size: 4.88 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 12.8 ounces

LimeFuel Blast L180X
Size: 4.88 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 13.44 ounces

LimeFuel Blast L240X
Size: 6.1 by 3.11 by 0.94 inches
Weight: 1.11 pounds (17.76 ounces)


Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: RE: limeade 15600mah battery

Hi Brian,

I am considering purchasing this model. About how much do you think it
weighs?

Thank you,

Lynda

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Subject: limeade 15600mah battery

hi,

The Limeade 15600 external battery pack is a bit heavier than I expected but
it will charge your iphone 5s about ten times.
For those who are completely blind, you can just guess on 12 hours to charge
the Limeade 15600mah battery.
The flashlight will blink when the pack is charging then stay on solid when
you should unplug the pack.
The pack will not be damaged if you can't see the light or forget to unplug
it as it includes a circuit board to prevent over charging.
Answers from supp...@limefuel.com were quick and helpful.
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Re: Recommendations for barcode reader app

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Thanks, Eileen, these are very helpful tips.  I've been through the tips on 
DigitEyes website but I'm still pretty bad at finding the codes.  After 5 or 10 
minutes of trying, one is seething. smile
On 1 Jul 2014, at 15:46, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 CamFind is another app that one can use for identifying and recognizing 
 objects. It's from the same developers as TapTapSee and it's free. I forgot 
 about LookTel Recognizer being used as a barcode reader/scanner. I do have 
 Digit-Eyes and probably use this app more frequently when scanning and 
 organizing paperwork. I like the ability to create my own lables. 
 
 To answer your other question, on the Digit-Eyes website 
 (www.digit-eyes.com),  there is a specific link to give one hints on finding 
 the barcodes more efficiently. Once in a while, I'll get stumped and will 
 need to use another app instead of Digit-Eyes or even take out my old ID Mate 
 Omni, but that's in a rare occasion. Using transparent Scotch tape (when out 
 and about) and having a a sighted person place it over the barcode will help 
 one find it later on. I always look for a seam on a package or can and start 
 just left of the seam or the bottom of a package like rice, but I'm 
 systematic in my search. For a box, I'll locate the top where one would go to 
 open it and then turn the box upside down and usually start on the bottom 
 left. This usually works pretty well unless the barcode has been placed on 
 the side. Sometimes there is no logical reason for where a manufacture has 
 placed a barcode. In these cases, I will use CamFind to take a picture. HTH
 
 Best,
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Red Laser works very well, and is free. Digit-Eyes works less well, but can 
 recognize more codes and lets you print out your own labels (from their 
 website) for scanning later to identify non-coded items. They also offer 
 clothing labels for identifying clothes or other items you may need to wash. 
 If all you're after is QR and bar code scanning, though, Red Laser should 
 work just fine. Just be sure to enable the light from within the app before 
 you start scanning.
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Looktel recognizer is great
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 Is there a reliable barcode reader app which a blind person could use to 
 identify items purchased in supermarkets?  I wonder how a blind person 
 would know where the barcode is situated.
 
 Any experiences?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: [SPAM]Question About Various GPS Apps for iPhone

2014-07-08 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,

sorry for the bf, i thought $69 was for three years.
you still really can't beat only 9.99 to try it for 30 days.
Bryan Schulz


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Subject: Re: [SPAM]Question About Various GPS Apps for iPhone


Really? The 30 day trial is only $1.95? If that is truly the case, you only 
get one 30 day trial. The one year charge is $80, and the three year charge 
is $120. This is $.22 per day for one year, or $.11 per day for three years. 
Given this pricing, there is no way the company would charge only $.065 per 
day for 30 days at a time.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 26 Jun 2014, at 15:13, Bryan Schulz b.sch...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

hi,

I paid for the 30 day trial and the results are really interesting.
If you think 6.5 cents per day is a premium charge, your rear must be 
tougher to crack than Sammy's three lock box.

Bryan Schulz


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And, you pay an extreme premium for the server-based system.

I get most of the same features from Apple Maps for free. I just need to 
put VO on the appropriate field to monitor, and I need to manually move VO 
to the information I wish. Finally, for that extreme premium, one is 
limited to only the US, and maybe Canada. For the UK, you need to use a 
different app, with the same premiums. Outside those places, there is no 
Sendero GPS app.


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On 26 Jun 2014, at 13:42, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

The advantage to an app like Seeing Eye is that you get many of the 
features that blind people like in one app. You get turn by turn 
directions, but you also get announcements of approaching intersections 
and POIs.


Andy


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Subject: [SPAM]Question About Various GPS Apps for iPhone

I realize that this particular topic is so vast, due to the amount of
available GPS apps, that we could probably have a separate mailing list
just to discuss this one capability.  I also realize that my questions
could generate a variety of opinions but that's OK.
So, here's the thing.  I'm relatively new to the iPhone and started out
in the world of GPS with the built-in Maps app, which I can use and, for
the most part, which I like.  I've also downloaded several free GPS apps
that I'm in the process of evaluating and learning. One of the things
that I really loved about Maps was that I could have it constantly speak
my current location, which I found beneficial while on the train going
to work.  Given the capabilities of many of these free apps, are the
specialized, blindness-specific GPS apps worth paying for?  What
benefits can we get with Seeing eye or Blindsquare?

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Re: Recommendations for barcode reader app

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Lamanche
I tried and tried to find the bar code on items with digitEyes but it's next to 
impossible.  When I tried to find a bar code with a sighted user, DigitEyes 
couldn't see it either.  So I will try Read'Laser.

One more thing.  How do you know where to look for the code?

Andrew
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 Red Laser works very well, and is free. Digit-Eyes works less well, but can 
 recognize more codes and lets you print out your own labels (from their 
 website) for scanning later to identify non-coded items. They also offer 
 clothing labels for identifying clothes or other items you may need to wash. 
 If all you're after is QR and bar code scanning, though, Red Laser should 
 work just fine. Just be sure to enable the light from within the app before 
 you start scanning.
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Looktel recognizer is great
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 Is there a reliable barcode reader app which a blind person could use to 
 identify items purchased in supermarkets?  I wonder how a blind person 
 would know where the barcode is situated.
 
 Any experiences?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Voice Dream reader and protected content

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
No, unfortunately. If a file is protected, like Audible, Kindle, or Nook, 
nothing can open it except the app from the file's company. That is, only the 
Kindle app can read Kindle books, because only it knows how to decrypt them. 
There is nothing Voice Dream or any other app can do about this, at least 
nothing legal.
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 Listers,
 
 Can I listen to protected ebooks like e-pub or protected pdf files in Voice 
 Dream Reader?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Adjusting the Speaking Rate of VoiceOver

2014-07-08 Thread isaac
You can also switch the rotor to speech and swipe down to slow down the rate 
and swipe up to speed it up.
isaac
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 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 You are in the right place, but find that adjustable item and simply swipe up 
 or down. That is, don't double tap on it first, just move to it and swipe. It 
 should adjust in five percent increments. Also be sure that the up/down swipe 
 is fast enough; it sounds like you may be moving your finger too slowly, and 
 having the gesture interpreted as simply moving your finger on the screen. 
 The up/down flick should be as fast as a left/right flick.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This should be a straightforward thing. How do I adjust the Speech Rate of 
 VoiceOver? If I do it in Settings | General | Accessibility | Voiceover, by 
 double-tapping on Speaking Rate, Adjustable, and then swipe up or down with 
 one finger to adjust the value, all that happens then is that I run into 
 the other VoiceOver settings for Sound Effects, Braille, this and that, but 
 I can only slightly adjust the speech rate. (At the moment I am hovering at 
 about 51%. I'd like to adjust that downward eventually to maybe about 11%.) 
 Am using iOS7.1.2 or the latest iOS update on iPhone 5S. I mostly use 
 braille, but needed to see if I could help a situation where braille 
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Re: Recommendations for barcode reader app

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Hall
I find the best results to be with Red Laser. For smaller items that are round, 
like cans or yogurt containers, I simply rotate the item in front of the 
camera, perhaps six inches away. After one or two circuits, I move the item up 
or down to scan a new area and rotate again. I usually find codes on these 
items within a minute, often far less. Boxes are harder, but eventually you'll 
get to know where the codes are on things you use a lot. For instance, I now 
know on which side the code is on the pasta boxes we use. Other than that, it's 
a matter of scanning at the right height and waiting to find the code. Also, in 
Red Laser, don't forget to enable the light (top right corner) for much, much 
better results.
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 I tried and tried to find the bar code on items with digitEyes but it's next 
 to impossible.  When I tried to find a bar code with a sighted user, 
 DigitEyes couldn't see it either.  So I will try Read'Laser.
 
 One more thing.  How do you know where to look for the code?
 
 Andrew
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 14:59, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Red Laser works very well, and is free. Digit-Eyes works less well, but can 
 recognize more codes and lets you print out your own labels (from their 
 website) for scanning later to identify non-coded items. They also offer 
 clothing labels for identifying clothes or other items you may need to wash. 
 If all you're after is QR and bar code scanning, though, Red Laser should 
 work just fine. Just be sure to enable the light from within the app before 
 you start scanning.
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Looktel recognizer is great
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 Is there a reliable barcode reader app which a blind person could use to 
 identify items purchased in supermarkets?  I wonder how a blind person 
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 Any experiences?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Contacts in iCloud

2014-07-08 Thread Harry Bell
I made a big mistake when I added my university workplace email account to the 
Mail app on my iPhone 5s running ios 7.0.2: I did not ensure that icloud would 
not sync all my workplace contacts. I realized my mistake a couple of minutes 
later and changed iCloud setting so it should no longer sync my workplace email 
contacts - but too late! Now, though the Cpntacts app on my iphone still only 
shows my personal contacts, whenever I compose an email and begin to type in 
the name in the To edit field suggestions pop up of literally hundreds of 
people at the university I have never met or heard of before! How can I stop 
all these names appearing and go back to only having my personal Contacts as 
suggestions? Any advice welcome!
Thanks
Harry

 

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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Devin Prater
How would that be confusing? Do the programmers and marketing people think 
we're that retarded? Oh my gosh, these companies are laughable and 
unintelligent. 
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 I know where you are coming from, and certainly there are ways of (sort of) 
 testing the app before making the purchase. What gets me is the attitude; 
 they are asking for $100 up front, with little chance of a refund, yet plenty 
 of models exist that would let users try before buying. Instead of adopting 
 such a model, though, they first blame Apple for not offering an official app 
 trial mechanism (see yesterday's tweet), then they say that adopting a 
 freemium model of some kind would be confusing. This, despite the fact that 
 plenty of apps, blind-specific or not, use freemium pricing to great success. 
 Bottom line: they want a whole lot of money, but won't allow a trial even 
 though doing so would be easy. They'd rather blame Apple for nothing at all, 
 or claim it would be a lower-quality experience somehow.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, there is no doubt that having a demo for individuals to test would be 
 ideal. And if enough people push forward and put enough pressure on an FB, 
 perhaps it will happen. I also believe that wow a lot of us will not buy 
 this app the first comes out. A lot of people on this list will. We can ask 
 them to scan for certain things that we like to check out. Yes, it's not the 
 same as us doing it, but there are other ways to manage this. I just don't 
 think it's with getting that worked up over. After all, one of the main 
 reasons at this list is so beneficial is the fact that there are lots of 
 guinea pigs out there. There are a lot of people who will buy apps and test 
 them. We can learn from them. That's one of the main reasons I stay on this 
 list along with being able to hopefully assist others on occasion. It wasn't 
 for these facts. With all the extraneous messages that are passed 
 back-and-forth, I would've unsubscribed along time ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know there will be demos of it, but that isn't the same as making sure it 
 works for each person. I mean, say it does great scanning pages, but chokes 
 on envelopes? Most of my scanning is envelopes, but unless I can test that 
 out ahead of time, I won't know that the app will not work for me as well 
 as it did for the guy in the podcast. That's just an example; everyone has 
 different use cases, requirements, and expectations, and I simply can't 
 understand why the developers of this app refuse to adopt a simple model 
 that would let each potential customer make sure the app is what they want 
 and need before spending all that money.
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, it's not as bleak as you portray. Someone on more than one 
 individual do a podcast and will get a good idea of how the app really 
 works. After all, nobody has to buy it the first day it comes out. Using 
 some patients and caution will yield good results in the end.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Regarding an app trial, I think this is pretty clear. @KNFBReader sent 
 the following tweet earlier today:
 
 @davetaylor2112 Thanks for the suggestion. We will not be creating a 
 freemium app. This only causes confusion and lowers expectations.
 
 So there you have it. Cough up your hundred dollars based on others' 
 experiences, or don't get the app; no trials for anyone. I personally 
 find this to be ridiculous and a bad decision, but what do I know?
 On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm waiting to find out how it will work with my ipod touch 5th 
 generation.  I have no plans on buying an iphone.
 
 On 7/7/2014 11:15 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB Reader  
 with the Nokia phone for about $1250. He was really thrilled with his 
 purchase and thought it was great value. He has  been using it for the 
 past five years and it's been working flawlessly! The results of the 
 OCR have to be seen to be believed! I was shocked to hear that this app 
 now sells for $99!! It's a steal!  It's an outstanding application! 
 Comparing it with other available OCR apps is like comparing chalk with 
 cheese.
 
 
 
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Re: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones

2014-07-08 Thread Flor Lynch
I typed and sent the below message on Saturday last. It's now Tuesday the 8th. 
let's see when (on what date) this reaches the list. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones


  There are also several apps, many of them free, available if you type hearing 
aid in the search field. 

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Pelletier 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones


Hi Bill,

 

I have an app which, I hope, can help you a lot if it still exists. It is 
called Awareness. I found it in the app store about 1 year ago.  Its purpose 
is to pick-up ambient sounds from  the iPhone's microphone and send it to your 
earphones so, if walking with music, the ambient sound can reduce the music and 
let you hear it.

 

Don't know if it will do the trick for your type of hearing problem but it 
sure sounds like its worth a try.

 

I found it just by writing Awareness in the search field of the app store.

 

Good luck and let me know

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hearing Aid App - Was: Aftershock headphones

 

Well Folks;

 

I'm going to divulge here that I have a serious hearing problem in my right 
ear; this is due mostly to the fact that the mechanics of good hearing -- the 
eardrum, stirrup, anvil and hammer inside the ear -- are gone due to a chronic 
infection as a child.

 

However, I've discovered that the Bluez design to use bone conduction for 
delivering sound to the hearing processing in the brain has rendered a dramatic 
balance in excellent hearing on both ears.  Does anybody know of an iOS app 
that will take advantage of this and deliver ambient environmental sounds to 
the earphones that I might take advantage of this interesting phenomena?

 

 


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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread Joseph
Hello,
Apple permitss in-app purchases. Why not have a light then a full version of 
the OCR app.


Sent from my Sprint iPhone 4S.

 On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Apple does not allow trials, do they? I thought that has been a long-standing 
 Apple policy. So if there is no trial, it is not KN FB's fault.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 6, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 The demo was impressive, but the reading material was preselected and 
 prepared.
  
 Andy
  
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App
 Hi Andy,
  
 Thanks for that information, that price means that I would only buy it if it 
 was absolutely outstanding and much better than Text Grabber or Prizmo in 
 several areas. For me those would be primarily in ease of use and the 
 ability to take good pictures and of course regonition quality.
  
 I hope they offer some sort of way to try out the app, maybe a free version 
 which allows you to take 10 pictures or something like that.
  
 While the price is on the high side, it is, however, not as bad as some 
 people have speculated a few weeks ago when people thought it would cost 
 $300 or $500 and it’s certainly a far cry from the $1,500 it cost when it 
 was aavailable for the Symbean platform.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Andy Baracco
 Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: KNFB Reader App
  
 It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and 
 will be available by the end of August.
 Andy
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Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

2014-07-08 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi 
Sorry if I was not clear. 
In earlier ios you hear 2 dings when stopping recording and 1 when starting. 
THAT'S what I was suggesting to them to bring back.
As of current version the 2 ding sounds when you press the done button.

Best,

Ioana




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 On Jul 8, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Ioana, if you heard the same sound for recording and for pause, how would
 you know which you were actually doing if you didn't remember and got off by
 one? I would think that if Apple wanted to do this, there would be a
 different sound, say two dings for record, and one ding for pause.
 
 Neal
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ioana Gandrabur
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos
 
 Hi all,
 
 Here is what's happening with the 2 finger double tap in voice memos in ios
 7: 
 When you first perform this action it starts recording and you hear a ding.
 If you do it again you hear no sound. This made me and probably others
 assume it did not pause the recording, since in earlier versions it would
 sound 2 dings at this point.
 It actually pauses none the less.
 Double-tap again with 2 fingers and you can resume the recording. When done
 and you want to stop find the done button.
 Here we hear that 2 ding signal. 
 I have suggested to apple to let us hear this 2 ding sound when we pause to
 give a cue that the action was performed successfully. 
 Hth,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 installed on it.  I just used VoiceMemo
 this evening and had no problem using the 2 finger double tap to stop
 recording.
 
 My question is this; does the 2 finger double tap successfully stop
 other apps?
 
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 - Original Message - From: Ioana Gandrabur
 igandra...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:37 AM
 Subject: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos
 
 
 Hi list,
 
 Did any of you notice a bug in voice memos where 2 finger double tap dos
 not stop recording?
 I wrote to accessibility and they got back saying they could not reproduce
 this.
 I used 2 iphone 5 7.12 to test this and got same bug.
 thanks,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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Re: Contacts in iCloud

2014-07-08 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

I'm not sure I understand how adding a mail account would add contacts to 
icloud. I thought it just adds mailboxes.
If the work contacts are in icloud you should see them in the contacts app 
somewhere. Maybe they are in a speciffic group?
If so you could remove them if you have a computer that's also synked to icloud?

Hope you get this solved.

Best,

Ioana




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 On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Harry Bell ubupanora...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I made a big mistake when I added my university workplace email account to 
 the Mail app on my iPhone 5s running ios 7.0.2: I did not ensure that icloud 
 would not sync all my workplace contacts. I realized my mistake a couple of 
 minutes later and changed iCloud setting so it should no longer sync my 
 workplace email contacts - but too late! Now, though the Cpntacts app on my 
 iphone still only shows my personal contacts, whenever I compose an email and 
 begin to type in the name in the To edit field suggestions pop up of 
 literally hundreds of people at the university I have never met or heard of 
 before! How can I stop all these names appearing and go back to only having 
 my personal Contacts as suggestions? Any advice welcome!
 Thanks
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Re: KNFB Reader App

2014-07-08 Thread AppleGourmet
This app will only be available and of August 2014. Apple's new I OS 8.0 would 
be out by end of September 2014. We should Put any discission on hold until the 
end of September. The reason? iOS 8.0 promises to give app developers more 
control over the camera: this directly translates into better results from apps 
like Prizmo, text detective and text grabber!!

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Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

2014-07-08 Thread Wayne Merritt
Hi. I can confirm this behavior. I use Voice memos a lot to make brief
notes on things. I have tried doing a 2 finger double tap to stop the
recording but it does not work. I have an iPhone 5 and the issue has
happened on both iOS 7.1.1 and 7.1.2. As you stated, I don't hear the
double ding until after I have double tapped the done button.

Wayne

On 7/8/14, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Sorry if I was not clear.
 In earlier ios you hear 2 dings when stopping recording and 1 when starting.
 THAT'S what I was suggesting to them to bring back.
 As of current version the 2 ding sounds when you press the done button.

 Best,

 Ioana
 



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
 wrote:

 Ioana, if you heard the same sound for recording and for pause, how would
 you know which you were actually doing if you didn't remember and got off
 by
 one? I would think that if Apple wanted to do this, there would be a
 different sound, say two dings for record, and one ding for pause.

 Neal


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Ioana Gandrabur
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos

 Hi all,

 Here is what's happening with the 2 finger double tap in voice memos in
 ios
 7:
 When you first perform this action it starts recording and you hear a
 ding.
 If you do it again you hear no sound. This made me and probably others
 assume it did not pause the recording, since in earlier versions it would
 sound 2 dings at this point.
 It actually pauses none the less.
 Double-tap again with 2 fingers and you can resume the recording. When
 done
 and you want to stop find the done button.
 Here we hear that 2 ding signal.
 I have suggested to apple to let us hear this 2 ding sound when we pause
 to
 give a cue that the action was performed successfully.
 Hth,


 Ioana




 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

 I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 installed on it.  I just used
 VoiceMemo
 this evening and had no problem using the 2 finger double tap to stop
 recording.

 My question is this; does the 2 finger double tap successfully stop
 other apps?
 
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 - Original Message - From: Ioana Gandrabur
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 Subject: Bug with stopping recording in voice memos


 Hi list,

 Did any of you notice a bug in voice memos where 2 finger double tap dos
 not stop recording?
 I wrote to accessibility and they got back saying they could not
 reproduce
 this.
 I used 2 iphone 5 7.12 to test this and got same bug.
 thanks,


 Ioana




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