RE: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Jed,

You only get a recovery code if you enable 2-step authentication which has to 
be done via the http://AppleID.apple.com website. If you log in and go to the 
security section you will find this. Using 2-step authentication means that if 
you try to sign in to iCloud or the Apple website from a device which is not 
recognized you will first provide your password, then a code is sent to one of 
your trusted devices (iPhone or iPad) and you have to enter this code in order 
to complete the login process.
The recovery key is for situations where you forget your password or as in the 
article where somebody tries to access your account and it is blocked which I 
think Apple does after inputting your password incorrectly three times.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jed Barton
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

so, here's the question.  I ahve an ipad, and an iphone.I've never 
even ehard of this recovery key.  Where would i get 1 from Apple?


On 12/9/2014 3:10 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.

 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

 Mark

 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I 
 thought nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was 
 disabled for security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, 
 thinking it would solve itself and went to sleep.

 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which 
 was now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
 annoying. I figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it 
 could wait.

 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's 
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped 
 when someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into 
 thinking about real security for the first time.

 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
 machine, I discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, 
 but someone had tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and 
 kept the attacker out, however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be 
 easy to recover my account with a combination of any two of either my 
 password, a trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
 discovered that there was no way back in without my recovery key. 
 That's when it hit me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if 
 I'd ever even put the piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since 
 I set up two-factor on iCloud.

 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before 
 giving up after a few frustrating hours and began searching my 
 computer for any trace of it. I found countless recovery keys but 
 they weren't for the right things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, 
 Twitter, Facebook and other accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo 
 of it with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to 
 much of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back 
 seven years, app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out 
 of the grips of Find my iPhone's lock.

 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of 
 cussing, I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be 
 wrong, since the support page claims you can use trusted devices to 
 recover your ID in cases like this.

 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the 
 phone that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing 
 the recovery key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.

 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my 
 plight and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had 
 happened to her, and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking 
 around and lots of awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior 
 manager.

 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take 
 your security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time 
 we cannot grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend 
 you create a new Apple ID.

 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely 
 there was some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would 
 not help me. I offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices 
 and other proof that it was me. Nope, that 

Re: Accessible Metronome App

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Tempo perfect, fully accessible.
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From: Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:36 AM
Subject: Accessible Metronome App


Hello,

I’m looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone. I’ve tried a few 
out, but none have been accessible.

Peace,
Brandon

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Re: apple keyboard

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Press Return?
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From: markbr...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 4:46 PM
Subject: apple keyboard


Hi all can you tell me how to get out of an edit field to type in to the 
next edit field using a keyboard.

many thanks

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Lori. I usually update over the air, but future major releases, like iOS 9, 
I may consider Chris's suggestion and use iTunes to do the update. And speaking 
of iTunes, no issues here, although that may be because I'm using a Mac, like 
my signature says.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Dec 9, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
  
 Thank you. Yes, it does feel good to have successfully accomplished  doing a 
 software update myself  without any help. Some things are a challenge for me 
 like iTunes but I do eventually get it.
  
 Lori and the Gipper
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:52 PM
 Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12
 
 Good  going! :) Always feels good to succeed at something challenging.
 
 Teresa
 
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 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com 
 mailto:loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris and all,
 
 I just successfully updated my phone to ios 8.12 by doing the download of 
 the update from my device. I'm so proud of myself.
 
 Lori and the Gipper 
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Re: A few TuneIn Radio questions

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Turner
102.5 KZOK is available in TuneIn Radio Pro, but I don't think there are 
different stations available in the free version. It did take some digging to 
get to the actual station. If you have the free version, try searching for it 
and keep double tapping on the name until you get to a screen that says 
Stations, just before 102.5 KZOK and it will start playing when you double tap 
on it there, then you can add it to your favorites.
I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but don't remember what it cost. it was not much. Just 
search for TuneIn and you will find the free version, and the second result 
should be TuneIn Radio Pro.
I have no idea about your first question.
HTH,
Richard


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Sent from my iPhone 5S



 On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Angus MacKinnon floda...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 A few TuneIn Radio questions.
 
 1. Am I reading the TuneIn site. A person can download TuneIn Radio on to 
 Roku and/or Sonos? What about a Bose Wave Music 3?
 
 2. Is KZOK 102.5FM Seattle Washington a TuneIn Radio Premium Station? I live 
 near Vancouver British Columbia Canada.
 
 3. For some reason I do not see it. How much is TuneIn Radio Premium?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Angus MacKinnon
 
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RE: intro, IPhone6

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you still get the Hello or slide to setup message in different languages 
that means your phone is not set up yet. What you have to do when you touch 
that message (don't worry about which language it is in, it rotates and once 
you tap it, it will continue in English) is to double tap anywhere on the 
screen with one finger. A doubl;e tap means just that, 2 quick taps one after 
the other. This is how buttons, links and other screen elements are activated, 
like pressing enter on the computer.

If you are that new and are completely unfamiliar with how you enter 
information using the virtual keyboard, you may want to ask a sighted person to 
at least get you through the setup screens. Do you already hgave an Apple ID? 
If not it might be best to go to http://AppleID.apple.com on a computer and set 
one up first. You will need an Apple Id for many services Apple offers such as 
iCloud backups, iMessage messages, Facetime audio and video calls and of course 
to buy apps from the App Store or music and other media from iTunes.
I highly recommend that during the setup process you enable touch Id and scan 
your fingerprint because that make it much easier to unlock your device.

When it comes to typing on your phone, there are 3 styles: standard, touch 
typing and direct touch typing. I will not even go into direct touch typing as 
it is the most difficult to master and something for you to look at once you 
are further advanced in learning how to use your phone.

By default standard typing is selected and if you have Voiceover on and a 
sighted person is helping you, make sure you explain that icons, buttons and so 
on have to be double tapped since for a sighted person all you have to do is 
touch something to activateit. Also, when it comes to typing, standard typing 
requires you to first find the letter, number or symbol you want to type and 
after Voiceover speaks it, you have to double tap anywhere on the screen just 
like when you activate a button or link. Alternatively, you can leave one 
finger on the letter after you find it and touch the screen with a second 
finger and that will also type it. You do have to be careful, however, that 
your first finger doesn't move as you do this.
Touch typing means that you can touch a letter and it is typed as you lift the 
finger off it. Then you go find the next letter you want and again lift your 
finger to type it.
This is preferred by most more advanced users, but in order to select touch 
typing you have to first master another gesture which is called the rotor. The 
rotor is a bit like a context menu and the gesture is done with 2 fingers and 
it's a turning/rotating motion similar to when you place 2 fingers on each side 
of a round knob like on a washer, dryer or dish washer and you turn the knob. 
On the iPhone you would place 2 fingers on the screen slightly apart and then 
do a clockwise or counter clockwise motion. You can repeat this gesture and 
each time you do it you may hear Voiceover say things like characters, words, 
headings and so on. In order to select touch typing you first of all have to be 
in an edit field since some items on the rotor are only present when the 
context requires them to be there and then you have to do this turning motion 
until you hear Typing Mode. Now if you use a single finger to flick from the 
top of the screen down towards the bottom it will change your typing mode from 
standard to touch typing, do it a second time and it goes from touch typing to 
direct touch typing, do it a third time and it wraps around back up to standard 
typing. If you flick to direct touch typing you can also flick up from the 
bottom to the top and go back up the list. If you do want to set touch typing 
as your style, then make sure after you have accomplished this to turn the 
rotor back to something like characters or words because otherwise you will 
most likely accidently change it again since all it takes is a flick up or down 
on the screen.

I hope this helps a bit.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: intro, IPhone6

Hi all -- I got an IPhone6 some weeks ago and have scanned through and 
listened to some intro material on the blind-geek-zone site.
Unfortunately, I have never used an IPhone and have only a sketchy knowledge 
of VO and the only intro file I found was for an IPhone 5.

I wonder if someone could point me to a description somewhere that applies 
to an IPhone 6, or else answer the following questions:

First, what in general are the finger gestures that identify, select, or 
activate an icon? I know sliding a finger lightly over the screen will cause 
VO to speak the icons.  But I can't seem to get the tapping with 2 or 3 
fingers to do what they are supposed to do.

For example, a friend got the phone to a point where I could hit the lower 
left of the 

Re: intro, IPhone6

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
That hello thing is initial setup by the sound of it;  and this is where it 
chooses the language.  It'll not do anyhthing useful until the setup part is 
finished.

After that, learning to tap quick enough accurately so your finger doesn't 
slide on the screen as you do it, or the focus moves, as you found out.
Otherwise, flick right or left to skip forward or back through all the items 
on the screen;  find a starting point by putting your finger somewhere on 
the screen,  then do flicks after that;saves flicking over the whole screen 
and also saves groping about all over it looking for the one item.  I seldom 
manage to precisely pinpoint where icons are.

Rh.
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: intro, IPhone6


Hi all -- I got an IPhone6 some weeks ago and have scanned through and
listened to some intro material on the blind-geek-zone site.
Unfortunately, I have never used an IPhone and have only a sketchy knowledge
of VO and the only intro file I found was for an IPhone 5.

I wonder if someone could point me to a description somewhere that applies
to an IPhone 6, or else answer the following questions:

First, what in general are the finger gestures that identify, select, or
activate an icon? I know sliding a finger lightly over the screen will cause
VO to speak the icons.  But I can't seem to get the tapping with 2 or 3
fingers to do what they are supposed to do.

For example, a friend got the phone to a point where I could hit the lower
left of the screen and it speaks hello and puts the number pad up, but
when I slide my finger to the appropriate number and tap it, I get a
different number.

Also, when I hit the phone icon and it says hello, it keeps repeating it
in every language and voice available.  How do I get it to stick to US
English?

I have a few other things working but as you can see, I am far from able to
use the phone in a meaningful way.

Please point to any docs I have missed.  There are numerous podcasts and
hundreds of emails posted online, but they are spread around so it is hard
to find the doc that applies to the latest phone.

Thanks in advance for any pointers.
I like the way the phone sounds.  I can almost understand some of the other
languages...:)

Happy holidays.

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Re: A few TuneIn Radio questions

2014-12-10 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Also, adding to Richard's post, since you say you're in Canada, some US 
stations will only work for people that are in the States. If you do a search 
result for this station, does it say that it's not available in your country?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 102.5 KZOK is available in TuneIn Radio Pro, but I don't think there are 
 different stations available in the free version. It did take some digging to 
 get to the actual station. If you have the free version, try searching for it 
 and keep double tapping on the name until you get to a screen that says 
 Stations, just before 102.5 KZOK and it will start playing when you double 
 tap on it there, then you can add it to your favorites.
 I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but don't remember what it cost. it was not much. 
 Just search for TuneIn and you will find the free version, and the second 
 result should be TuneIn Radio Pro.
 I have no idea about your first question.
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
 
 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Angus MacKinnon floda...@gmx.com 
 mailto:floda...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 A few TuneIn Radio questions.
 
 1. Am I reading the TuneIn site. A person can download TuneIn Radio on to 
 Roku and/or Sonos? What about a Bose Wave Music 3?
 
 2. Is KZOK 102.5FM Seattle Washington a TuneIn Radio Premium Station? I live 
 near Vancouver British Columbia Canada.
 
 3. For some reason I do not see it. How much is TuneIn Radio Premium?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Angus MacKinnon
 
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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Huh!I asked for help;  though to be fair, I did get a bit.

I have a Mini and so far, I find on the top:-  a Plus which is vol up, a 
Dash which is vol down; and a round one that does status, and can answer and 
hangup calls if you're in conference or speaker mode through it.

On the end along one side of it:- from the top, a slider which slides up for 
on,  down for off;  and a mechanical switch is good for this to save power. 
Then it's the 3mm aux or linein jack, then a micro-usb socket for charging 
and firmware upgrade when necessary.

I've not had to do firmware, so don't know any more about it than that.

Some of the functions talk or make encouraging noises to show it's working, 
like it makes a great grunt and squeak as you put it on,  and a decending 
burble when you put it off.  Pressing the round button on the top will 
announce battery status if you have a source connected, or will tell you 
jambox is ready and waiting for device to connect.

I think there's another function to force pairing mode, but not found it 
yet.  That's enough to use it.

Hth, RobH.

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would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?

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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Ok, may or may not have answered, but the round oneon top is the talk 
button.

If you hold the Dash key to wind the vol down, it will go down, and mute 
abruptly.  So press and hold the plus and it comes up again.

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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
I let it do on the device so far, though not found 8.1.2 for it yet.

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I was wondering has anyone updated their phone to ios 8.12 and if so, did 
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I think for me it's easier to update through my device it self what do you 
all think?

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Re: next glass app

2014-12-10 Thread Sandratomkins
Well Richard,

This app is not available in Ireland!we must be just too abstemious!I think we 
are known for it!

Good luck and happy Christmas!
Sandy

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 On 9 Dec 2014, at 16:50, Harry Bell ubupanora...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The app appears not to be available in UK! Don't we drink enough? Harry
 
  
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 15:09, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 I am writing to ask others to try an app, then write their support and 
 request VoiceOver accessibility.
 The app is called Next Glass. It is an app that you are supposed to be able 
 to  rate beers or wines you like and based on that, the app will suggest 
 other beers or wines you may like. They have analyzed over 2 beers and I 
 don't know how many wines and recommend ones with similar characteristics to 
 the ones you like.
 The app is pretty much useless with VoiceOver. I have gotten responses from 
 their support, but only one other visually impaired person has contacted 
 them. I doubt two people will be enough to result in changes, but who knows, 
 it might.
 But, if you are interested in such an app, I'll paste the link and their 
 support email address below.
 supp...@nextglass.co
 Next Glass - Explore Craft Beer  Wine by Next Glass, Inc.
 https://appsto.re/us/-4yWZ.i
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 
 
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 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 
 
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RE: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread SSEric
To force pairing that slider power switch actually has three position: down
is off, middle is on and a spring-loaded up to get into pairing.

Also when the speaker is on you can press and hold for a second or two all
three top buttons for a short demo of various sounds and speaker phone.



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Of RobH.
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jambox Help

Huh!I asked for help;  though to be fair, I did get a bit.

I have a Mini and so far, I find on the top:-  a Plus which is vol up, a 
Dash which is vol down; and a round one that does status, and can answer and

hangup calls if you're in conference or speaker mode through it.

On the end along one side of it:- from the top, a slider which slides up for

on,  down for off;  and a mechanical switch is good for this to save power. 
Then it's the 3mm aux or linein jack, then a micro-usb socket for charging 
and firmware upgrade when necessary.

I've not had to do firmware, so don't know any more about it than that.

Some of the functions talk or make encouraging noises to show it's working, 
like it makes a great grunt and squeak as you put it on,  and a decending 
burble when you put it off.  Pressing the round button on the top will 
announce battery status if you have a source connected, or will tell you 
jambox is ready and waiting for device to connect.

I think there's another function to force pairing mode, but not found it 
yet.  That's enough to use it.

Hth, RobH.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
Subject: Jambox Help


Hey all,

Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are on

it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell 
me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice 
would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?

Thanks,

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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Brill, thanks for these, tested both models with that latter.

robH.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: Jambox Help


To force pairing that slider power switch actually has three position: down
is off, middle is on and a spring-loaded up to get into pairing.

Also when the speaker is on you can press and hold for a second or two all
three top buttons for a short demo of various sounds and speaker phone.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH.
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jambox Help

Huh!I asked for help;  though to be fair, I did get a bit.

I have a Mini and so far, I find on the top:-  a Plus which is vol up, a
Dash which is vol down; and a round one that does status, and can answer and

hangup calls if you're in conference or speaker mode through it.

On the end along one side of it:- from the top, a slider which slides up for

on,  down for off;  and a mechanical switch is good for this to save power.
Then it's the 3mm aux or linein jack, then a micro-usb socket for charging
and firmware upgrade when necessary.

I've not had to do firmware, so don't know any more about it than that.

Some of the functions talk or make encouraging noises to show it's working,
like it makes a great grunt and squeak as you put it on,  and a decending
burble when you put it off.  Pressing the round button on the top will
announce battery status if you have a source connected, or will tell you
jambox is ready and waiting for device to connect.

I think there's another function to force pairing mode, but not found it
yet.  That's enough to use it.

Hth, RobH.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
Subject: Jambox Help


Hey all,

Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are on

it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell
me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice
would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?

Thanks,

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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread Charles Rivard
I upgraded using iTunes.  It requires less space on your device, and is a heck 
of a lot safer in case of problems.  I figure, why risk creating a useless 
brick of a device when there is a safer way that also allows you to monitor the 
process?

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  Subject: updating to ios 8.12


  Hi all,

  I was wondering has anyone updated their phone to ios 8.12 and if so, did you 
update through iTunes  or on your device itself?

  I think for me it's easier to update through my device it self what do you 
all think?

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Slacker

2014-12-10 Thread Corey Cook
Looks like slacker broke accessibility again!

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: enabling 2 step

2014-12-10 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, so I know how to enable two step verification.  Are there only the two 
methods - one using the questions and answers and one this method?

If you use both methods, do you have to provide both the two-step and answers 
to questions if you need to reset a password?

Carol P



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  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:45 AM
  Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


  Go to appleid.apple.com
  sign in, go to security options, and find 2 step barification.


  Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
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  Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
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  And ask your question there.  All are welcome!







On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:


I have an idiotic question: how does one enable 2 step?

  On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
wrote:

  I don't agree withthis as the Darkside of apple's 2 step authentication 
for your safety. If people cannot be responsible to keep their security unlock 
key in a safe place then that is not apple's fault. I have the service enabled 
and I have all my safe recovery keys in an area that I can get to from either 
my iPhone or my computer or my iPad. I would have to experience a complete 
shutdown and lack of access from my Windows machine as well as my Apple devices 
in order for me to not have access to that key.

  I understand there can be some annoyance with too much security, however 
anytime extra security measures are added the companies that are offering the 
services are very clear about you needing to keep any sort of recovery keys 
available to you at all times.




On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully. 
 

The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

Mark

The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would 
solve
itself and went to sleep.

The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which 
was
now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
annoying. I
figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could 
wait.

I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped 
when
someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking 
about
real security for the first time.

When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
machine, I
discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone 
had
tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker 
out,
however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy 
to
recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, 
a
trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
discovered
that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it 
hit
me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
iCloud.

I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving 
up
after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any 
trace
of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo 
of it
with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to 
much
of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven 
years,
app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of 
Find
my iPhone's lock.

The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of 
cussing,
I decided to call Apple. I figured 

Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I updated via my device.  It's not a huge update and there was no problem.

The only thing I have needed to do since that time is to text one rather long 
message.  At that stage my bluetooth keyboard was working perfectly.  (I'd had 
lots of problems on and off before this update.)  I just hope it will last.

I haven't lost any ring tones so can't say about this option.

Anyone noticed anything else about this update and is there a complete list 
anywhere of changes?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:04 AM
  Subject: updating to ios 8.12


  Hi all,

  I was wondering has anyone updated their phone to ios 8.12 and if so, did you 
update through iTunes  or on your device itself?

  I think for me it's easier to update through my device it self what do you 
all think?

  Lori and the Gipper

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Re: List mail not being received on my iPhone.

2014-12-10 Thread Esther Levegnale
Hi, Liz,

Have you tried looking for your list mail in your Junk folder?  That's where 
all of mine are going.  Hope thathelps.

Esther Levegnale





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 moderators, but on my PC I am getting my list mail just fine in my inbox. 
 However, I am not receiving any of the list mail on my iPhone. I looked at 
 Google groups to see if there was any settings I need to change, and their 
 settings menu is a total bear to work with.
 
 Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
 
 
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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I usually prefer using ITunes. However, yesterday when I did the
update I used the phone. ITunes was taking a long time. It was taking
tow/three hours using ITunes.

On 12/10/14, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I updated via my device.  It's not a huge update and there was no problem.

 The only thing I have needed to do since that time is to text one rather
 long message.  At that stage my bluetooth keyboard was working perfectly.
 (I'd had lots of problems on and off before this update.)  I just hope it
 will last.

 I haven't lost any ring tones so can't say about this option.

 Anyone noticed anything else about this update and is there a complete list
 anywhere of changes?

 Carol P

   - Original Message -
   From: Lori Dent
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:04 AM
   Subject: updating to ios 8.12


   Hi all,

   I was wondering has anyone updated their phone to ios 8.12 and if so, did
 you update through iTunes  or on your device itself?

   I think for me it's easier to update through my device it self what do you
 all think?

   Lori and the Gipper

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iPad Mini 2

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,
I want to share this experience with you all.
This morning I was playing with the TuneIn Radio app on my iPad Mini 2 
when all of a sudden sound quit working unless I use Siri. I then 
rebooted the device several times with no joy. I even tried the volume 
buttons with no joy either. So in the end I had to restore using iTunes. 
But lol! Find my iPad was enabled so guess what? I had to restore the 
iPad Mini 2 in recovery mode! To do this whilst connected to iTunes 
press and hold the home and sleep/wake buttons for about ten seconds, 
after which release the sleep/wake button but keep the home button down 
until you see a message from iTunes that it has detected a device in 
recovery mode. Click ok and restore as usual. You can do this even with 
Find My iPad, Find My iPhone or Find My iPod enabled. The first time was 
an absolute failure because the problem came back after restoring from 
an iTunes backup. So had to do it all over again, but this time it was a 
success after setting it up as a new device in iTunes. So all morning I 
downloaded all my apps and configure the device in general.


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Re: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?

2014-12-10 Thread Penny Reeder
Hi Annie, I think I am about to take the plunge and get the 6. Are you
still finding ways in which VoiceOver is not working the way you
expected it to? When you're in Safari, can you go backwards to the web
page you were on immediately before? Have you tried the on-screen
braille and is it easy to learn to do? Can you, or anyone, suggest
pod-casts that address on-screen brailling? Thanks so much, and I'm so
glad you are happy with your 6. That's encouraging!
Penny

On 12/10/14, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I think I have not seen this one.

 I feel the speaker is better, and the battery is much better. I like the
 larger phone very much.

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 24/11/2014 kl. 19.31 skrev RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com:

 I heard that to be so from another user with a hearing impediment.
 That and battery would be good enough reasons for me to be honest, but
 might
 have to wait for a few of you to finish with yours next year.
 Refurb should still be good enough.
 - Original Message -
 From: Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:10 PM
 Subject: RE: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?


 Hi Annie,

 Do you think the speaker on the six plus is louder on it or more clearer?
 I
 am very hard of hearing and would like to have the loudest speaker volume
 I
 can get.  Any advice on sound loudest would be appreciated.



 Ed



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?



 Hi Christina.



 I love mine too. I experience some differences with the camera. GOggles is

 also reacting faster, but I hope it will be updated to take fully
 advantage
 of 6+.



 A funny thing is red laser, it has become really really fast, if
 digit-eyes
 could learn something from red laser, it would be a fantastic program.



 I love the battery life, the size, the speaker, reading braille on my
 braille display works great too. I agree the best phone I ever had. Yes I

 also have a 5s a great phone, but the 6 plus is easier to use, as I
 experience it.



 Best regards Annie.

 Den 22/11/2014 kl. 21.26 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org:



 Hi Christina, yes, I absolutely am loving my 6 Plus. Best phone I've ever

 owned. As Robyn has said, the battery life is enough of a reason in
 itself.
 Being able to crank up GPS, music, and other apps when you're away from a

 power source for a long time and not have to worry about running out of
 juice is liberating.

 If you are a Braille user, you may also like the fact that the larger
 screen
 makes Braille screen input a breeze, and I think the larger screen also
 helps for direct touch typing. Both of these options mean I use my
 external
 Bluetooth keyboard hardly ever now.

 KNFB Reader have said on Twitter that the 6 Plus is the best phone to use

 with it right now because of optical image stabilisation. This is
 particularly the case if you have issues keeping the camera totally steady

 when taking a picture.

 It's also very fast, but of course, so is the 6.

 I wouldn't like to return to a smaller phone, and hope Apple keeps a
 device
 in this screen size in future.

 Definitely get your hands on one before buying if you can though. It's not

 to everyone's taste.

 Jonathan Mosen

 Mosen Consulting

 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ http://mosen.org/
 http://mosen.org/



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 Hello,

 I have a 5S and am considering upgrading to 6 Plus. I was wondering who is

 loving their 6 Plus and why. I am concerned about the size and bending the

 iPhone 6 plus. I want the better camera though. Is the better camera
 better
 for OCR, scanning bar codes, taking clearer pictures for identification
 apps, and of course, maybe getting lucky and getting a great shot of the
 kids? :) I am not very skilled currently with scanning barcodes and such
 with the iPhone and like the prospect of a better camera.  Is the camera
 really not much better than the one provided on the iPhone 6? I like the
 size of the 6. I actually like the size of my 5S but I don't have any
 experience with a larger screen to compare to. :)  Also, what about all
 the
 news about how easy it is to bend an iPhone 6 Plus? Did apple resolve this

 or ignore it?

 Thanks so much for any advice or opinions shared,
 Christina

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Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

2014-12-10 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Theresa,

Can I just clarify my understanding, please?

When you set up the key, you presumably have to enter that trusted telephone 
number.

What, exactly do you mean by

In order to reset your key, you have to have access to a trusted 
text-receiving phone number and your iCloud passcond. You have to have any two 
of these to set a third,

What do you mean by two of these and to set a third?

Thanks and sorry to not grasp this.

Carol P



  - Original Message - 
  From: Teresa Cochran 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication


  You can reset your key anytime, but Apple doesn't keep it for you. In order 
to reset your key, you have to have access to a trusted text-receiving phone 
number and your iCloud passcond. You have to have any two of these to set a 
third, and apparently, if you're locked out of your account for any reason, you 
have to have your key.


  Teresa

  We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

  On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:40 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:


Question:  do you only get one of these keys when you opt for 2 factor 
logging?

I've not seen, had,  or have heard of these keys before now.

RobH.

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication


Hi, Mark and all,

The other day I erased and restored my iPod. I'd lost my recovery key. I 
installed Google Voice and had a code sent to that phone number, which was 
already established as one of my trusted devices.  I reset my recovery key 
this way. Needless to say, I'm going to Braille it and put it somewhere 
safe, in case someone tries too many times to log in (most likely me) and I 
get locked out.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


  On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:



  Hello Everyone,



  I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.



  The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.


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Re: enabling 2 step

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi Carol P and all,
When you start to enable two step verification, you are told that this 
will replace answering your security questions. So the page will answer 
your question.


On 10/12/2014 12:59, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

OK, so I know how to enable two step verification.  Are there only the two 
methods - one using the questions and answers and one this method?

If you use both methods, do you have to provide both the two-step and answers 
to questions if you need to reset a password?

Carol P



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   From: Kliph
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:45 AM
   Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


   Go to appleid.apple.com
   sign in, go to security options, and find 2 step barification.


   Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
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 I have an idiotic question: how does one enable 2 step?

   On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
wrote:

   I don't agree withthis as the Darkside of apple's 2 step authentication 
for your safety. If people cannot be responsible to keep their security unlock 
key in a safe place then that is not apple's fault. I have the service enabled 
and I have all my safe recovery keys in an area that I can get to from either 
my iPhone or my computer or my iPad. I would have to experience a complete 
shutdown and lack of access from my Windows machine as well as my Apple devices 
in order for me to not have access to that key.

   I understand there can be some annoyance with too much security, however 
anytime extra security measures are added the companies that are offering the 
services are very clear about you needing to keep any sort of recovery keys 
available to you at all times.




 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.

 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

 Mark

 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would 
solve
 itself and went to sleep.

 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which 
was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could 
wait.

 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped 
when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking 
about
 real security for the first time.

 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but 
someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker 
out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be 
easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my 
password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it 
hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.

 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before 
giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any 
trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo 
of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to 
much
 of my digital life; everything 

RE: next glass app

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Turner
Sandra and others,

Well, the app is rather new, but it would be worth it for those few (or is that 
most) of you who like beer and wine in Ireland, England, etc, to write the 
company and say something like “hey, we like beer and wine here too, what 
gives?” grin.

Seriously, it can’t hurt for visually impaired folks and others outside the 
United States to ask that the app be made accessible and available.

To give a little more background, the company actually sent folks around the 
country to buy up local beers and send or take them back to their headquarters 
and do a chemical analysis of each beer along with tasting them and giving them 
ratings.  They were looking for the chemical similarities between beers that 
folks like or describe in the same way.  That way they think they were able to 
isolate some chemical reasons why they taste the way they do and can then 
recommend beers with those same characteristics that someone maybe hasn’t tried.

The company thinks this is a more neutral way than going by some persons 
subjective tasting notes.

 

I heard about this from a sighted person who had participated in the beta round 
before the app became widely available, at least widely available in the U.S.

 

I think it is an interesting project, but they need to do some serious work on 
the app before VoiceOver users can join in.

 

If you want to write them, the Email is: supp...@nextglass.co 
mailto:supp...@nextglass.co 

 

Happy tasting,

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandratomkins
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: next glass app

 

Well Richard,

 

This app is not available in Ireland!we must be just too abstemious!I think we 
are known for it!

 

Good luck and happy Christmas!

Sandy


Sent from my iPhone


On 9 Dec 2014, at 16:50, Harry Bell ubupanora...@icloud.com 
mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com  wrote:

The app appears not to be available in UK! Don't we drink enough? Harry

 


On 9 Dec 2014, at 15:09, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
mailto:rich...@turner42.com  wrote:

I am writing to ask others to try an app, then write their support and request 
VoiceOver accessibility.
The app is called Next Glass. It is an app that you are supposed to be able to  
rate beers or wines you like and based on that, the app will suggest other 
beers or wines you may like. They have analyzed over 2 beers and I don't 
know how many wines and recommend ones with similar characteristics to the ones 
you like.
The app is pretty much useless with VoiceOver. I have gotten responses from 
their support, but only one other visually impaired person has contacted them. 
I doubt two people will be enough to result in changes, but who knows, it might.
But, if you are interested in such an app, I'll paste the link and their 
support email address below.
supp...@nextglass.co mailto:supp...@nextglass.co 
Next Glass - Explore Craft Beer  Wine by Next Glass, Inc.
https://appsto.re/us/-4yWZ.i
Thanks,
Richard

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 

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Re: enabling 2 step

2014-12-10 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

Thanks, Chris.  I'm beginning to understand it now.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


Hi Carol P and all,
When you start to enable two step verification, you are told that this
will replace answering your security questions. So the page will answer
your question.

On 10/12/2014 12:59, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
OK, so I know how to enable two step verification.  Are there only the two 
methods - one using the questions and answers and one this method?


If you use both methods, do you have to provide both the two-step and 
answers to questions if you need to reset a password?


Carol P



   - Original Message -
   From: Kliph
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:45 AM
   Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


   Go to appleid.apple.com
   sign in, go to security options, and find 2 step barification.


   Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want 
quick efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, 
and we are always patient with you.


   Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
   Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
   And ask your question there.  All are welcome!







 On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:


 I have an idiotic question: how does one enable 2 step?

   On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


   I don't agree withthis as the Darkside of apple's 2 step 
authentication for your safety. If people cannot be responsible to keep 
their security unlock key in a safe place then that is not apple's fault. 
I have the service enabled and I have all my safe recovery keys in an area 
that I can get to from either my iPhone or my computer or my iPad. I would 
have to experience a complete shutdown and lack of access from my Windows 
machine as well as my Apple devices in order for me to not have access to 
that key.


   I understand there can be some annoyance with too much security, 
however anytime extra security measures are added the companies that are 
offering the services are very clear about you needing to keep any sort of 
recovery keys available to you at all times.





 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very 
carefully.


 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the 
text.


 Mark

 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I 
thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled 
for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it 
would solve

 itself and went to sleep.

 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - 
which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it 
could wait.


 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat 
Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were 
wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into 
thinking about

 real security for the first time.

 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but 
someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the 
attacker out,

 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would 
be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my 
password, a

 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's 
when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even 
put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up 
two-factor on

 iCloud.

 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before 
giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for 
any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the 
right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and 
other

 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID 

Can anyone recommend an external batterypack that can be recharged fast.

2014-12-10 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi all.

Someone send out a recommendation of an external batterypack a while ago. It is 
a batterypack that can be recharged rather fast. I can not find the mail 
anymore, can anyone help.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: enabling 2 step

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Good. I believe this is the best thing since sliced bread smile. So 
long as you have all your information to unlock your account with you 
should you need them, two step will go for and not against you.


On 10/12/2014 14:57, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

Thanks, Chris.  I'm beginning to understand it now.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


Hi Carol P and all,
When you start to enable two step verification, you are told that this
will replace answering your security questions. So the page will answer
your question.

On 10/12/2014 12:59, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

OK, so I know how to enable two step verification.  Are there only the
two methods - one using the questions and answers and one this method?

If you use both methods, do you have to provide both the two-step and
answers to questions if you need to reset a password?

Carol P



   - Original Message -
   From: Kliph
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:45 AM
   Subject: Re: enabling 2 step


   Go to appleid.apple.com
   sign in, go to security options, and find 2 step barification.


   Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want
quick efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to
contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always
answered, and we are always patient with you.

   Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
   Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
   And ask your question there.  All are welcome!







 On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:


 I have an idiotic question: how does one enable 2 step?

   On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos
r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

   I don't agree withthis as the Darkside of apple's 2 step
authentication for your safety. If people cannot be responsible to
keep their security unlock key in a safe place then that is not
apple's fault. I have the service enabled and I have all my safe
recovery keys in an area that I can get to from either my iPhone or my
computer or my iPad. I would have to experience a complete shutdown
and lack of access from my Windows machine as well as my Apple devices
in order for me to not have access to that key.

   I understand there can be some annoyance with too much
security, however anytime extra security measures are added the
companies that are offering the services are very clear about you
needing to keep any sort of recovery keys available to you at all times.




 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very
carefully.

 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the
text.

 Mark

 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that
I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was
disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking
it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.

 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message
- which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it
became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that
it could wait.

 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat
Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices
were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into
thinking about
 real security for the first time.

 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing
on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked,
but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the
attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it
would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my
password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed
iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's
when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever
even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up
two-factor on
 iCloud.

 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code,
before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer
for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they 

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
Apple was actually doing their job here, what if that wasn't the real 
person, but a hacker instead? If you're going to use that kind of 
security, you need to understand the responsibility that goes with it. 
Again, personally I think using 2 step security and file vault is 
overkill, but if you choose to use it and then you don't keep track of 
your key, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Original message:
I do agree with this, Merv. The lady in th article does make some valid 
points but to me, she sounded a little whiny. Now I know it is 
frustrating but if you know there is 2 step verification and you use 
it, keep your stuff in multiple safe locations. Congratulations on 
having the only Dad return from the dead smile.



On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com 
mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi,
I have to agree with you about two factor authentication and being 
responsible for your own security. About ten years ago my dad died and 
about a week later I saw him log into his Instant Messenger. Of course 
I knew it was a relative at the house snooping through his personal 
files so I wrote and asked him how he came back from the dead. It 
totally freaked my sister out trying to figure out how I knew she was 
in the house and on his computer. However, I having been his tech knew 
that he kept all his passwords on top of his monitor in a notebook 
labeled computer Passwords including the ones to his bank accounts, laughs!

Merv
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Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Very true. I haven't read the article but sounds like someone had more 
time to complain than feel security confident.


On 10/12/2014 04:20, Joanne Chua wrote:

I personally found this article is laughable. It is the user choice to
activated two factor  authentication for Apple, then, they complain
about how, Apple being too overly safe and security conchious for user
protection... It is not Apple's fault if individuals forget their
passwords, or their activation code is there.
Apple always got good repitation for security, and now, someone
actually complaining about Apple being too safe? That just, doesn't
make sense to me...

On 10/12/2014, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

They were lucky that they found their key. If you're going to use that
system, you need to keep it stored somewhere you  can find it.
Personally I think the 2 factor authentication is a bit overboard, but
that's just my opinion.
Original message:

Hello Everyone,



I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.



The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.



Mark



The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication



Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would
solve
itself and went to sleep.



The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying.
I
figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could
wait.



I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped
when
someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking
about
real security for the first time.



When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine,
I
discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone
had
tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.



The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy
to
recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.



When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I
discovered
that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
iCloud.



I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving
up
after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any
trace
of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
accounts, but not for my Apple ID.



How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of
it
with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.



This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to
much
of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven
years,
app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of
Find
my iPhone's lock.



The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of
cussing,
I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since
the
support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in
cases
like this.



The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the
phone
that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the
recovery
key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.



On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.



When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a
new
Apple ID.



I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there
was
some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me.
I
offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof
that
it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She
apologized
profusely and said there was nothing more should do.



Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage,
complaining
that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could
easily
prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up 

Re: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?

2014-12-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Their are quite a few tutorials and podcasts on AppleVis which will
help you out. You will be happy with the 6.

On 12/10/14, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Annie, I think I am about to take the plunge and get the 6. Are you
 still finding ways in which VoiceOver is not working the way you
 expected it to? When you're in Safari, can you go backwards to the web
 page you were on immediately before? Have you tried the on-screen
 braille and is it easy to learn to do? Can you, or anyone, suggest
 pod-casts that address on-screen brailling? Thanks so much, and I'm so
 glad you are happy with your 6. That's encouraging!
 Penny

 On 12/10/14, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I think I have not seen this one.

 I feel the speaker is better, and the battery is much better. I like the
 larger phone very much.

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 24/11/2014 kl. 19.31 skrev RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com:

 I heard that to be so from another user with a hearing impediment.
 That and battery would be good enough reasons for me to be honest, but
 might
 have to wait for a few of you to finish with yours next year.
 Refurb should still be good enough.
 - Original Message -
 From: Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:10 PM
 Subject: RE: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?


 Hi Annie,

 Do you think the speaker on the six plus is louder on it or more
 clearer?
 I
 am very hard of hearing and would like to have the loudest speaker
 volume
 I
 can get.  Any advice on sound loudest would be appreciated.



 Ed



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf

 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Are you loving your iPhone 6 plus?



 Hi Christina.



 I love mine too. I experience some differences with the camera. GOggles
 is

 also reacting faster, but I hope it will be updated to take fully
 advantage
 of 6+.



 A funny thing is red laser, it has become really really fast, if
 digit-eyes
 could learn something from red laser, it would be a fantastic program.



 I love the battery life, the size, the speaker, reading braille on my
 braille display works great too. I agree the best phone I ever had. Yes
 I

 also have a 5s a great phone, but the 6 plus is easier to use, as I
 experience it.



 Best regards Annie.

 Den 22/11/2014 kl. 21.26 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org:



 Hi Christina, yes, I absolutely am loving my 6 Plus. Best phone I've
 ever

 owned. As Robyn has said, the battery life is enough of a reason in
 itself.
 Being able to crank up GPS, music, and other apps when you're away from
 a

 power source for a long time and not have to worry about running out of
 juice is liberating.

 If you are a Braille user, you may also like the fact that the larger
 screen
 makes Braille screen input a breeze, and I think the larger screen also
 helps for direct touch typing. Both of these options mean I use my
 external
 Bluetooth keyboard hardly ever now.

 KNFB Reader have said on Twitter that the 6 Plus is the best phone to
 use

 with it right now because of optical image stabilisation. This is
 particularly the case if you have issues keeping the camera totally
 steady

 when taking a picture.

 It's also very fast, but of course, so is the 6.

 I wouldn't like to return to a smaller phone, and hope Apple keeps a
 device
 in this screen size in future.

 Definitely get your hands on one before buying if you can though. It's
 not

 to everyone's taste.

 Jonathan Mosen

 Mosen Consulting

 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ http://mosen.org/
 http://mosen.org/



 On 23/11/2014, at 5:08 am, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello,

 I have a 5S and am considering upgrading to 6 Plus. I was wondering who
 is

 loving their 6 Plus and why. I am concerned about the size and bending
 the

 iPhone 6 plus. I want the better camera though. Is the better camera
 better
 for OCR, scanning bar codes, taking clearer pictures for identification
 apps, and of course, maybe getting lucky and getting a great shot of the
 kids? :) I am not very skilled currently with scanning barcodes and such
 with the iPhone and like the prospect of a better camera.  Is the camera
 really not much better than the one provided on the iPhone 6? I like the
 size of the 6. I actually like the size of my 5S but I don't have any
 experience with a larger screen to compare to. :)  Also, what about all
 the
 news about how easy it is to bend an iPhone 6 Plus? Did apple resolve
 this

 or ignore it?

 Thanks so much for any advice or opinions shared,
 Christina

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Re: updating to ios 8.12 no bug solutions

2014-12-10 Thread Davy Cuppens
The notification bug for notifications not spoken still exists, the reason 
for me not to update my iPhone to ios8.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Lori Dent

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

Hi Chris and all,

I just successfully updated my phone to ios 8.12 by doing the download of
the update from my device. I'm so proud of myself.

Lori and the Gipper

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Re: Voiceover not speaking

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi,
Please read my post with subject, iPad Mini 2. The same will aply to 
iPhone and iPod Touch regardless of iOS version. However, I will add 
here that if you do the restore in iTunes you will have to make do with 
the upgraded iOS. Apple does not allow you to reinstall the same iOS 
unless it's the current one. Apple verifies the build of iOS about to be 
installed. If verification fails it can't be done. This is caused by you 
trying to install an older build of iOS that Apple is currently signing.


On 02/12/2014 23:06, Gulliver wrote:

I have a 4S and haven't upgraded to iOS8. Voiceover stopped speaking two
days ago. I have tried 3 finger double tap to toggle between on and off,
turning Voiceover on and off from Settings, pressing Lock button five times
to do a soft reboot, asking Siri to turn voiceover on and off and rebooting
the phone several times. None of these have worked. Does anyone have any
other suggestions? Thanks



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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread Davy Cuppens
Hi Lori 

Nice to express such happy feelings! I was a beginner too 10 months ago. I 
didn’t even know how to configure an iPhone on my own. Many of us blinds seem 
to care about making mistakes or thinking they will never manage to fulfill 
such tasks without risks. Well I can tell you friends of mine are experienced 
sighted chaps even making huge mistakes and taking no precautions and so losing 
all their music or contacts like happened by one of them yesterday. I am very 
pleased too then that you, even as a blind, can give advise to be more careful 
the next time, or empty the app switcher or even reboot their phones before 
doing any update.
Regards
Davy 

From: Lori Dent 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

Hi Teresa,

Thank you. Yes, it does feel good to have successfully accomplished  doing a 
software update myself  without any help. Some things are a challenge for me 
like iTunes but I do eventually get it.

Lori and the Gipper
  - Original Message - 
  From: Teresa Cochran 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:52 PM
  Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

  Good  going! :) Always feels good to succeed at something challenging.

  Teresa

  We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

  On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:


Hi Chris and all,

I just successfully updated my phone to ios 8.12 by doing the download of 
the update from my device. I'm so proud of myself.

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shortcut hints

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Hello
Before I go poking around in settings again, I'm wondering if when vo says
something like Find I Phone double tap to open if that latter phrase is
spoken because shortcut hints is on? I find it distracting and that it
somehow contributes to my not finding the next icon more quickly. I'm trying
to locate the icons without having to flick in great hopes I will get better
at simply touching the right spot for a particular icon. If I turn that help
off I imagine other things will also get turned off which I probably don't
want to turn off just yet. There is so so much to do and learn!

Deidre

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Re: shortcut hints

2014-12-10 Thread Alex Hall
That is a hint. Hints are spoken about a second after whatever you touch, if a 
hint is present. You don't need to wait for the hint before you keep moving, 
though.

To disable hints, go to Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver, and 
double tap the speak hints, on switch button to turn it off. This will 
disable all hints, though, which I don't recommend for new users or for anyone 
if a major upgrade has just been installed. You can miss messages that tell you 
what some button or other control does, and hints for even basic things can 
serve as a reminder on what to do if you forget.

Your other option is to put Hints in your rotor. This way, you can rotor to 
Hints and flick up or down to turn them on or off, letting you enable them when 
you need to. From VoiceOver's settings, find Rotor and double tap. Find Hints, 
double tap so VO says it is selected, and you're done.
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hello
 Before I go poking around in settings again, I'm wondering if when vo says
 something like Find I Phone double tap to open if that latter phrase is
 spoken because shortcut hints is on? I find it distracting and that it
 somehow contributes to my not finding the next icon more quickly. I'm trying
 to locate the icons without having to flick in great hopes I will get better
 at simply touching the right spot for a particular icon. If I turn that help
 off I imagine other things will also get turned off which I probably don't
 want to turn off just yet. There is so so much to do and learn!
 
   Deidre
 
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RE: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I agree that some might think that doing an iTunes backup, clearing app 
switcher, and all the other things might be overkill. However when you are the 
one who did all these things and you are the one who survived a data loss from 
something going wrong with your upgrade, it won’t seem like an overkill any 
ore. In some cases what I do is an iTunes encrypted backup first, and then once 
it’s connected there to the pc after the backup, I just upgrade. However if I 
don’t use iTunes, and just do an OTA upgrade, I still backup to iTunes first in 
case of catastrophe. I may not do everything that others do, but I still don’t 
just update over the air either.

 

Cheers.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: December 10, 2014 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

 

Hi Lori 

 

Nice to express such happy feelings! I was a beginner too 10 months ago. I 
didn’t even know how to configure an iPhone on my own. Many of us blinds seem 
to care about making mistakes or thinking they will never manage to fulfill 
such tasks without risks. Well I can tell you friends of mine are experienced 
sighted chaps even making huge mistakes and taking no precautions and so losing 
all their music or contacts like happened by one of them yesterday. I am very 
pleased too then that you, even as a blind, can give advise to be more careful 
the next time, or empty the app switcher or even reboot their phones before 
doing any update.

Regards

Davy 

 

From: Lori Dent mailto:loriand...@ohiohills.com  

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

 

Hi Teresa,

 

Thank you. Yes, it does feel good to have successfully accomplished  doing a 
software update myself  without any help. Some things are a challenge for me 
like iTunes but I do eventually get it.

 

Lori and the Gipper

- Original Message - 

From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:52 PM

Subject: Re: updating to ios 8.12

 

Good  going! :) Always feels good to succeed at something challenging.

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:

Hi Chris and all,

I just successfully updated my phone to ios 8.12 by doing the download of the 
update from my device. I'm so proud of myself.

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RE: happy upgrading - ios8.12 is out and updating now here

2014-12-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
My guess for those wondering, is that the main purpose of the fix was to 
address themissing ring tone issue. I read on Twitter that the main kernel of 
the iOS 8.1.1 wasn't even upgraded. This tells me it's a minor update indeed if 
the main kernel is still the same. So, what this means is that people should 
not expect a huge bug fix all of a sudden by upgrading from 8.1.1 to 8.1.2. 
Now, if you are on anything older than 8.1.1, then you should definitely 
upgrade, especially if you are on 8.0 or 8.0.2. For those of you still on 7.X, 
only you guys can decide on whether to upgrade or nt. I won't go into all that 
because it's been rehashed to death on this list on who and who should and 
should not upgrade to iOS 8.X.

Cheers.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: December 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: happy upgrading - ios8.12 is out and updating now here

They said that some bugs were fixed and that the problem with ring tones 
disappearing was also fixed.

On 12/9/14, matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just saw a message on this from mac daily news  and there was no9 
 informattion on what was fixed which has me thinking that itt is very miner.
  Matthew


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 The subject says it all.
 Happy upgrading!
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Re: shortcut hints

2014-12-10 Thread Lois Butterfield
As Alex said, if you move your finger on to the next item, you won't have to 
hear the hint.  When you stop, you will hear it.


I have no doubt you'll have this down in no time at all.

Good luck,
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-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcut hints

Hello
Before I go poking around in settings again, I'm wondering if when vo says
something like Find I Phone double tap to open if that latter phrase is
spoken because shortcut hints is on? I find it distracting and that it
somehow contributes to my not finding the next icon more quickly. I'm trying
to locate the icons without having to flick in great hopes I will get better
at simply touching the right spot for a particular icon. If I turn that help
off I imagine other things will also get turned off which I probably don't
want to turn off just yet. There is so so much to do and learn!

Deidre

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Re: updating to ios 8.12

2014-12-10 Thread jazzyjennifer

i usely up date from the device it self. cause its easyer for me.

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RE: shortcut hints

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Ah, the beauty of the rotor again! Only thing is that when I am swiping or
tapping around I toggle what the rotor is set on so I continually turn
sounds on and off, etc. I'm laughing.  I'll just keep touching around to
shortcut vo and see what kind of lag there is!

I discovered something interesting today. I went into a
Utilities folder the former user must have created. Voice memos, calculator,
compass and contacts were in there. I'm not even sure what app I opened
except after awhile I seemed to be in an edit field and later when I was
trying to close everything and app switcher wasn't saying anything was open,
I swear I was still in an edit field and it appeared as if I was in Safari.
I swiped up with 3 fingers even though vo was not giving me any feedback and
finally got out of the edit field and closed whatever I had inadvertently
opened. Anyway, no matter which apps search field I was in, I found the
letters easily. This leads me to ask if the keyboard is easier to use in
some applications than others, or might I be approaching the possibility of
actually being able to find the letters I want? I even saw that I could
flick and run through the letters, vo spoke the shift key and more numbers
etc. 

 

Subject: Re: shortcut hints

 

That is a hint. Hints are spoken about a second after whatever you touch, if
a hint is present. You don't need to wait for the hint before you keep
moving, though.

To disable hints, go to Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver, and
double tap the speak hints, on switch button to turn it off. This will
disable all hints, though, which I don't recommend for new users or for
anyone if a major upgrade has just been installed. You can miss messages
that tell you what some button or other control does, and hints for even
basic things can serve as a reminder on what to do if you forget.

Your other option is to put Hints in your rotor. This way, you can rotor to
Hints and flick up or down to turn them on or off, letting you enable them
when you need to. From VoiceOver's settings, find Rotor and double tap. Find
Hints, double tap so VO says it is selected, and you're done.

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found trick or work around for anouncing caller id more then once in ios 8.1.2.

2014-12-10 Thread ram kalia
yo all geeks a  big hello to all,
found trick or  work around for anouncing caller id more then once in ios 8.1.2.

when an incoming call is coming after vo anounce it once just play
with the mute /unmute button  when you will change it every time it
will anounce the caller id which can be useful for  those who want to
listen caller id once.

i have tried it on my 4s and hope this will surely work on other phones also

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posting to twitter and facebook

2014-12-10 Thread Eden Kizer
Ok, I hear you can post to twitter or facebook using siri, but I tried, 
and it said twitter wasn't set up, I have twitterific, and I tried 
putting it in my contacts.  does this mean I have to set these things up 
in the native twitter app and facebook app?  Or am I incorrect and siri 
won't do this on the fly?  Sometimes, like last night, I didn't have 
time to go into twitterific and post.  Thanks.


Eden

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Re: posting to twitter and facebook

2014-12-10 Thread Isaac Hebert
Yes you can have you tryed going to settings and then go to twitter and then 
signing in with your user name and password?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote:
 
 Ok, I hear you can post to twitter or facebook using siri, but I tried, and 
 it said twitter wasn't set up, I have twitterific, and I tried putting it in 
 my contacts.  does this mean I have to set these things up in the native 
 twitter app and facebook app?  Or am I incorrect and siri won't do this on 
 the fly?  Sometimes, like last night, I didn't have time to go into 
 twitterific and post.  Thanks.
 
 Eden
 
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RE: found trick or work around for announcing caller id more then once in ios 8.1.2.

2014-12-10 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, This works on the iPhone 5, with one caveat. I have my ringer volume set 
quite high, so it's normally louder than the normal VoiceOver speech. So, the 
first announcement of the caller ID is at that higher volume. When I mute and 
unmute the phone, the ID is announced again, but now at the normal level of 
VoiceOver.

Thanks for this.

Neal


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ram kalia
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:11 AM
To: viphone
Subject: found trick or work around for anouncing caller id more then once in 
ios 8.1.2.

yo all geeks a  big hello to all,
found trick or  work around for anouncing caller id more then once in ios 8.1.2.

when an incoming call is coming after vo anounce it once just play with the 
mute /unmute button  when you will change it every time it will anounce the 
caller id which can be useful for  those who want to listen caller id once.

i have tried it on my 4s and hope this will surely work on other phones also

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Re: shortcut hints

2014-12-10 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I usually put mine to words or characters then you don't mess anything up.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Deidre Muccio 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:52 PM
  Subject: RE: shortcut hints


  Ah, the beauty of the rotor again! Only thing is that when I am swiping or 
tapping around I toggle what the rotor is set on so I continually turn sounds 
on and off, etc. I’m laughing.  I’ll just keep touching around to shortcut vo 
and see what kind of lag there is!

  I discovered something interesting today. I went into a Utilities 
folder the former user must have created. Voice memos, calculator, compass and 
contacts were in there. I’m not even sure what app I opened except after awhile 
I seemed to be in an edit field and later when I was trying to close everything 
and app switcher wasn’t saying anything was open, I swear I was still in an 
edit field and it appeared as if I was in Safari. I swiped up with 3 fingers 
even though vo was not giving me any feedback and finally got out of the edit 
field and closed whatever I had inadvertently opened. Anyway, no matter which 
apps search field I was in, I found the letters easily. This leads me to ask if 
the keyboard is easier to use in some applications than others, or might I be 
approaching the possibility of actually being able to find the letters I want? 
I even saw that I could flick and run through the letters, vo spoke the shift 
key and more numbers etc. 

   

  Subject: Re: shortcut hints

   

  That is a hint. Hints are spoken about a second after whatever you touch, if 
a hint is present. You don't need to wait for the hint before you keep moving, 
though.

  To disable hints, go to Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver, and 
double tap the speak hints, on switch button to turn it off. This will 
disable all hints, though, which I don't recommend for new users or for anyone 
if a major upgrade has just been installed. You can miss messages that tell you 
what some button or other control does, and hints for even basic things can 
serve as a reminder on what to do if you forget.

  Your other option is to put Hints in your rotor. This way, you can rotor to 
Hints and flick up or down to turn them on or off, letting you enable them when 
you need to. From VoiceOver's settings, find Rotor and double tap. Find Hints, 
double tap so VO says it is selected, and you're done.


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Re: Slacker

2014-12-10 Thread Christina C.
Have you contacted them and did they respond? I love slacker but I may have to 
cancel my subscription and try Spotify or Rhapsody. I didn’t care for the 
stations that Spotify had when I tried them over a year ago, nor did I care for 
their stations based on an artist. They seemed wonky to me and did not play 
music similar to the chosen artist.  I truly can’t believe Slacker did this 
again. Last time it took them a long time to fix it. If they don’t remedy it 
quickly I will have to cancel. :(

How broken is the app? Is it completely broken and unusable or are just a few 
features unusable?

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Rob,

Thanks it’s funny as I assume what the plus is was not a plus and thought that 
button controlled both up and down volume not realizing that it was a plus and 
minus button and since I muted it by accident now that I know what the buttons 
do it all makes sense. I need to look in to the firmware update as there seems 
to be an awful lot of bass and I am not sure if there is  a way to lower the 
bass as I am hearing the bass when listening to spoken word on a podcast and it 
just seems to high. I played around with the app for a bit but it does not seem 
to do much and there seemed to be some unlabeled buttons in it. Thanks again 
for the info as I was afraid of muting it again so was not really playing 
around with it until I knew what the buttons were.
On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:37 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Ok, may or may not have answered, but the round oneon top is the talk 
 button.
 
 If you hold the Dash key to wind the vol down, it will go down, and mute 
 abruptly.  So press and hold the plus and it comes up again.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
 Subject: Jambox Help
 
 
 Hey all,
 
 Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are on 
 it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell 
 me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice 
 would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread Brian Fischler
I also realized that pushing or holding the round button launches siri
On Dec 10, 2014, at 5:10 AM, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:

 To force pairing that slider power switch actually has three position: down
 is off, middle is on and a spring-loaded up to get into pairing.
 
 Also when the speaker is on you can press and hold for a second or two all
 three top buttons for a short demo of various sounds and speaker phone.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of RobH.
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jambox Help
 
 Huh!I asked for help;  though to be fair, I did get a bit.
 
 I have a Mini and so far, I find on the top:-  a Plus which is vol up, a 
 Dash which is vol down; and a round one that does status, and can answer and
 
 hangup calls if you're in conference or speaker mode through it.
 
 On the end along one side of it:- from the top, a slider which slides up for
 
 on,  down for off;  and a mechanical switch is good for this to save power. 
 Then it's the 3mm aux or linein jack, then a micro-usb socket for charging 
 and firmware upgrade when necessary.
 
 I've not had to do firmware, so don't know any more about it than that.
 
 Some of the functions talk or make encouraging noises to show it's working, 
 like it makes a great grunt and squeak as you put it on,  and a decending 
 burble when you put it off.  Pressing the round button on the top will 
 announce battery status if you have a source connected, or will tell you 
 jambox is ready and waiting for device to connect.
 
 I think there's another function to force pairing mode, but not found it 
 yet.  That's enough to use it.
 
 Hth, RobH.
 
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 From: Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
 Subject: Jambox Help
 
 
 Hey all,
 
 Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are on
 
 it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell 
 me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice 
 would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Announcement of darks guy notifications

2014-12-10 Thread Wren Langley
Hi all, sometime back people were wondering if dark sky would alert to freezing 
rain or sleet or frozen precipitation. It does alert to sleet and snow, but I 
don't know about freezing rain yet. Although that a freezing rain advisory was 
issued today so I believe that it would alert to freezing rain also. So to 
clarify this is just to answer the question that people were wondering about 
sometime back and I said that I would write in if I got any answer to the 
question. God bless, Wren Langley

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Re: Announcement of darks guy notifications

2014-12-10 Thread Jessica D
Will alert you to severe weather?

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi all, sometime back people were wondering if dark sky would alert to 
 freezing rain or sleet or frozen precipitation. It does alert to sleet and 
 snow, but I don't know about freezing rain yet. Although that a freezing rain 
 advisory was issued today so I believe that it would alert to freezing rain 
 also. So to clarify this is just to answer the question that people were 
 wondering about sometime back and I said that I would write in if I got any 
 answer to the question. God bless, Wren Langley
 
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Re: posting to twitter and facebook

2014-12-10 Thread Eden Kizer

That was what I needed to know if I had to do this in settings, so thanks.

Eden
On 12/10/2014 9:53 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

Yes you can have you tryed going to settings and then go to twitter and then 
signing in with your user name and password?

Sent from my iPhone


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Ok, I hear you can post to twitter or facebook using siri, but I tried, and it 
said twitter wasn't set up, I have twitterific, and I tried putting it in my 
contacts.  does this mean I have to set these things up in the native twitter 
app and facebook app?  Or am I incorrect and siri won't do this on the fly?  
Sometimes, like last night, I didn't have time to go into twitterific and post. 
 Thanks.

Eden

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Re: Slacker

2014-12-10 Thread Corey Cook
I will be contacting them when I get home tonight
I'm paying for the subscription and if it's not fixed by the end of the month I 
will cancel
I am tired of this happening

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have you contacted them and did they respond? I love slacker but I may have 
 to cancel my subscription and try Spotify or Rhapsody. I didn’t care for the 
 stations that Spotify had when I tried them over a year ago, nor did I care 
 for their stations based on an artist. They seemed wonky to me and did not 
 play music similar to the chosen artist.  I truly can’t believe Slacker did 
 this again. Last time it took them a long time to fix it. If they don’t 
 remedy it quickly I will have to cancel. :(
 
 How broken is the app? Is it completely broken and unusable or are just a few 
 features unusable?
 
 Thanks,
 Christina
 
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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
Somebody else soon gave up with the app, as did I;  couldn't find it doing 
anything useful.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: Jambox Help


Hey Rob,

Thanks it’s funny as I assume what the plus is was not a plus and thought 
that button controlled both up and down volume not realizing that it was a 
plus and minus button and since I muted it by accident now that I know what 
the buttons do it all makes sense. I need to look in to the firmware update 
as there seems to be an awful lot of bass and I am not sure if there is  a 
way to lower the bass as I am hearing the bass when listening to spoken word 
on a podcast and it just seems to high. I played around with the app for a 
bit but it does not seem to do much and there seemed to be some unlabeled 
buttons in it. Thanks again for the info as I was afraid of muting it again 
so was not really playing around with it until I knew what the buttons were.
On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:37 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Ok, may or may not have answered, but the round oneon top is the talk
 button.

 If you hold the Dash key to wind the vol down, it will go down, and mute
 abruptly.  So press and hold the plus and it comes up again.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
 Subject: Jambox Help


 Hey all,

 Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are 
 on
 it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell
 me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice
 would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?

 Thanks,

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Re: Jambox Help

2014-12-10 Thread RobH.
We should put all this in one text file and upload to Applevis for the next 
one to buy one.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Jambox Help


I also realized that pushing or holding the round button launches siri
On Dec 10, 2014, at 5:10 AM, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:

 To force pairing that slider power switch actually has three position: 
 down
 is off, middle is on and a spring-loaded up to get into pairing.

 Also when the speaker is on you can press and hold for a second or two all
 three top buttons for a short demo of various sounds and speaker phone.



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 Of RobH.
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jambox Help

 Huh!I asked for help;  though to be fair, I did get a bit.

 I have a Mini and so far, I find on the top:-  a Plus which is vol up, a
 Dash which is vol down; and a round one that does status, and can answer 
 and

 hangup calls if you're in conference or speaker mode through it.

 On the end along one side of it:- from the top, a slider which slides up 
 for

 on,  down for off;  and a mechanical switch is good for this to save 
 power.
 Then it's the 3mm aux or linein jack, then a micro-usb socket for charging
 and firmware upgrade when necessary.

 I've not had to do firmware, so don't know any more about it than that.

 Some of the functions talk or make encouraging noises to show it's 
 working,
 like it makes a great grunt and squeak as you put it on,  and a decending
 burble when you put it off.  Pressing the round button on the top will
 announce battery status if you have a source connected, or will tell you
 jambox is ready and waiting for device to connect.

 I think there's another function to force pairing mode, but not found it
 yet.  That's enough to use it.

 Hth, RobH.

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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:38 PM
 Subject: Jambox Help


 Hey all,

 Anyone that has the jam box mini can you let me know what the buttons are 
 on

 it. Just got it and even after doing OCR on the PDF manual it did not tell
 me much. I someone muted it and do not know how I did. Any useful advice
 would be greatly appreciated. Also which button is the talk button?

 Thanks,

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Sprint: It May Be Worth Taking Another Look

2014-12-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

First, just so you know, I am both a Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless
customer.  

The reason I am posting this is to let you know that a couple of days ago, I
helped a friend migrate from a Galaxy Note 2, on Verizon Wireless, to an
iPhone 6 Plus with Sprint.  

I only deal with corporate stores as I think they provide the best service
and pricing.  

Anyway, I convinced her to switch to sprint for several reasons not the
least of which being that Sprint offers unlimited, and as I have discovered,
unthrottled data speeds.  

So, for her, not only did Sprint buy her out of her current Verizon Wireless
contract, they waved her activation fee and, even by leasing the phone for
two years, her monthly bill is $10 less than it was with Verizon Wireless
where she had a data cap and a limited number of texts.  Also, her monthly
fee includes insurance for the phone. Moreover, in her case, she is getting
much better cell coverage with Sprint than with Verizon.  

Now, of course the usual caveats must be observed such as Sprint's overall
coverage in a particular area and such.  

However, the primary reason I am so impressed with Sprint is because of this
new Half Off promotion they've just started.

They want Verizon and A T   T Wireless customers and, they are willing to
pay for them.  Effectively, if those customers switch to sprint, they will
give you the same service you have with A T  T or Verizon Wireless at half
your current rate.

Now, for me, for instance, since I have both unlimited everything on both
Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless, I could switch to Sprint for half my
monthly fee on either.  

I was truly impressed with the level of customer service we received from
Sprint and, if you're looking to save money and you're not happy with your
current provider, perhaps you should give Sprint another look.

As for me, because I am in the middle of beta testing both Verizon Wireless
and A T  T Wireless specific products, I won't be switching to Sprint but,
I can tell you that if I did not already have unlimited talk, data, and
texting with my current providers, I would switch to Sprint in a proverbial
heartbeat.

One more thing, perhaps it just in this area but I swear the data speed in
this area is faster on Sprint than on A T  T Wireless.  We were able to
download Alex in what seems like no time at all, while in the car with the
phone connected to the charger.  

For your convenience, I will paste in some support text directly from the
Sprint site that talks about the new Half Off plan.  The link to the
original article may be found at the bottom of the text.

One more thing, I love that 6 Plus.  It is a beautiful piece of technology.
I can't wait to get one for myself.  

Mark

Sprint's Half Off Plan:


FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event 
Last Updated: Dec 10, 2014





FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
What is Sprint Launching?

.Effective 12/05/2014, available for limited time only, Sprint is
introducing the Cut Your Bill in Half Event for Verizon and ATT customers
who are interested in switching to Sprint to cut their rate plan in half.
.How it works: 
.Beginning Friday, Dec. 5, Verizon and ATT customers switching to Sprint
need to follow these simple steps to take advantage of this limited-time
offer: 
1.Visit sprint.com/halfprice to upload a copy of your current bill.
2.Bring a copy of your latest bill and all of the phones on your Verizon or
ATT account to turn in to your Sprint store.
3.A Sprint representative will select the service plan that most closely
matches the data allowance in your current monthly rate plan.
4.Get your new phone with one of our leasing options, Sprint Easy Pay(SM)
installment billing, or pay full retail price for the device and we will
waive your activation fee at $36/line.
5.Customers also may take advantage of the Cut Your Bill in Half Event via
Sprint.com. For more information visit www.sprint.com/halfprice.

What will my Sprint bill look like?

.As of your first invoice, Sprint will display the competitor talk, text and
data plan MRC as well as Sprint's Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
.The data allowance will be displayed below the competitor's full price plan
MRC  Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
.Additionally, if you turned in a phone(s) at point of sale, you will see
this displayed as $0 Phone Returned charge on your invoice for each line.

How long will I continue to receive the half-price rate plan discount?

.Customers will continue to receive the benefit of the half-price rate plan
offer as long as their account remains in good standing and they remain on
the same device. As is the case with our national pricing, Sprint cannot
guarantee the same pricing will be available with future device upgrades.

What if my competitor bill is not in English?

.If you are unable to obtain an English version of your latest Verizon or
ATT bill, no problem! Grab your latest invoice, visit the nearest Sprint
store and we will help 

Re: Sprint: It May Be Worth Taking Another Look

2014-12-10 Thread Corey Cook
A company that has to pay for your business is not worth your business
I will take a network that works thank you

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:40 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 First, just so you know, I am both a Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless
 customer.  
 
 The reason I am posting this is to let you know that a couple of days ago, I
 helped a friend migrate from a Galaxy Note 2, on Verizon Wireless, to an
 iPhone 6 Plus with Sprint.  
 
 I only deal with corporate stores as I think they provide the best service
 and pricing.  
 
 Anyway, I convinced her to switch to sprint for several reasons not the
 least of which being that Sprint offers unlimited, and as I have discovered,
 unthrottled data speeds.  
 
 So, for her, not only did Sprint buy her out of her current Verizon Wireless
 contract, they waved her activation fee and, even by leasing the phone for
 two years, her monthly bill is $10 less than it was with Verizon Wireless
 where she had a data cap and a limited number of texts.  Also, her monthly
 fee includes insurance for the phone. Moreover, in her case, she is getting
 much better cell coverage with Sprint than with Verizon.  
 
 Now, of course the usual caveats must be observed such as Sprint's overall
 coverage in a particular area and such.  
 
 However, the primary reason I am so impressed with Sprint is because of this
 new Half Off promotion they've just started.
 
 They want Verizon and A T   T Wireless customers and, they are willing to
 pay for them.  Effectively, if those customers switch to sprint, they will
 give you the same service you have with A T  T or Verizon Wireless at half
 your current rate.
 
 Now, for me, for instance, since I have both unlimited everything on both
 Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless, I could switch to Sprint for half my
 monthly fee on either.  
 
 I was truly impressed with the level of customer service we received from
 Sprint and, if you're looking to save money and you're not happy with your
 current provider, perhaps you should give Sprint another look.
 
 As for me, because I am in the middle of beta testing both Verizon Wireless
 and A T  T Wireless specific products, I won't be switching to Sprint but,
 I can tell you that if I did not already have unlimited talk, data, and
 texting with my current providers, I would switch to Sprint in a proverbial
 heartbeat.
 
 One more thing, perhaps it just in this area but I swear the data speed in
 this area is faster on Sprint than on A T  T Wireless.  We were able to
 download Alex in what seems like no time at all, while in the car with the
 phone connected to the charger.  
 
 For your convenience, I will paste in some support text directly from the
 Sprint site that talks about the new Half Off plan.  The link to the
 original article may be found at the bottom of the text.
 
 One more thing, I love that 6 Plus.  It is a beautiful piece of technology.
 I can't wait to get one for myself.  
 
 Mark
 
 Sprint's Half Off Plan:
 
 
 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event 
 Last Updated: Dec 10, 2014
 
 
 
 
 
 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
 What is Sprint Launching?
 
 .Effective 12/05/2014, available for limited time only, Sprint is
 introducing the Cut Your Bill in Half Event for Verizon and ATT customers
 who are interested in switching to Sprint to cut their rate plan in half.
 .How it works: 
 .Beginning Friday, Dec. 5, Verizon and ATT customers switching to Sprint
 need to follow these simple steps to take advantage of this limited-time
 offer: 
 1.Visit sprint.com/halfprice to upload a copy of your current bill.
 2.Bring a copy of your latest bill and all of the phones on your Verizon or
 ATT account to turn in to your Sprint store.
 3.A Sprint representative will select the service plan that most closely
 matches the data allowance in your current monthly rate plan.
 4.Get your new phone with one of our leasing options, Sprint Easy Pay(SM)
 installment billing, or pay full retail price for the device and we will
 waive your activation fee at $36/line.
 5.Customers also may take advantage of the Cut Your Bill in Half Event via
 Sprint.com. For more information visit www.sprint.com/halfprice.
 
 What will my Sprint bill look like?
 
 .As of your first invoice, Sprint will display the competitor talk, text and
 data plan MRC as well as Sprint's Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
 .The data allowance will be displayed below the competitor's full price plan
 MRC  Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
 .Additionally, if you turned in a phone(s) at point of sale, you will see
 this displayed as $0 Phone Returned charge on your invoice for each line.
 
 How long will I continue to receive the half-price rate plan discount?
 
 .Customers will continue to receive the benefit of the half-price rate plan
 offer as long as their account remains in good standing and they remain on
 the same device. As is the case with our national pricing, 

naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's not
obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
appointment. 
It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
than the Tuesday of the next week. 
I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my own
input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
now along with setting alerts. I did read through the section in Dresdner
about how to create appts but it said nothing about specific language to use
for giving Siri the details.Deidre

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Re: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Alex Hall
Try saying this:

new calendar event, team meeting, next Friday at 2

That should do the trick. I'm not sure I follow your question about the dates, 
can you elaborate? Thanks.
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:
 
   Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's not
 obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
 order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
 appointment. 
 It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
 confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
 day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
 I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
 asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
 why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
 appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
 than the Tuesday of the next week. 
   I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my own
 input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
 anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
 calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
 now along with setting alerts. I did read through the section in Dresdner
 about how to create appts but it said nothing about specific language to use
 for giving Siri the details.  Deidre
 
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Re: Announcement of darks guy notifications

2014-12-10 Thread Wren Langley
Hi Jessica, I am not sure. I know there was talk about it, but I can't remember 
what was said. Maybe someone else can shed some light on your question. God 
bless, Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Will alert you to severe weather?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi all, sometime back people were wondering if dark sky would alert to 
 freezing rain or sleet or frozen precipitation. It does alert to sleet and 
 snow, but I don't know about freezing rain yet. Although that a freezing 
 rain advisory was issued today so I believe that it would alert to freezing 
 rain also. So to clarify this is just to answer the question that people 
 were wondering about sometime back and I said that I would write in if I got 
 any answer to the question. God bless, Wren Langley
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Announcement of darks guy notifications

2014-12-10 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
As I stated previously its main focus is the alerting of precipitation.  It 
does not do severe weather alerts.  You'd need to use another app to gain 
access to those.

I hope that clarifies.
And yes it does alert for any precipitation frozen or other wise. We had 
sleet and snow flurries today.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Wren Langley

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Subject: Re: Announcement of darks guy notifications

Hi Jessica, I am not sure. I know there was talk about it, but I can't 
remember what was said. Maybe someone else can shed some light on your 
question. God bless, Wren Langley


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On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

Will alert you to severe weather?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:


Hi all, sometime back people were wondering if dark sky would alert to 
freezing rain or sleet or frozen precipitation. It does alert to sleet 
and snow, but I don't know about freezing rain yet. Although that a 
freezing rain advisory was issued today so I believe that it would alert 
to freezing rain also. So to clarify this is just to answer the question 
that people were wondering about sometime back and I said that I would 
write in if I got any answer to the question. God bless, Wren Langley


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RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Alex

First I didn't know that I could say all of that at once. Rather than say
New calendar event, team meeting, next Friday at 2 I asked Siri to
schedule or create an appointment. Then she asked for date and time, and I
gave a specific date. How can I give the appointment or event a name like PT
or massage without having to go into calendar and writing it in? In the
example you gave is the title of your appointment event, team meeting, next
Friday at 2? Is that the only way Siri can title the appt and get the other
details as well?

 

On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

 

Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's
not
obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
appointment. 
It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
than the Tuesday of the next week. 
I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my
own
input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
now along with setting alerts. I did read through the section in Dresdner
about how to create appts but it said nothing about specific language to use
for giving Siri the details.   Deidre

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Re: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Lois Butterfield
This is how I schedule an appointment.  I say schedule an appointment for 
January third at 3 p.m., title hair appointment.  Siri will then repeat the 
information and ask to confirm or not..  If you don’t say it all at the same 
time, it doesn’t work well.

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From: Deidre Muccio 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

Alex

First I didn’t know that I could say all of that at once. Rather than say  “New 
calendar event, team meeting, next Friday at 2” I asked Siri to schedule or 
create an appointment. Then she asked for date and time, and I gave a specific 
date. How can I give the appointment or event a name like PT or massage without 
having to go into calendar and writing it in? In the example you gave is the 
title of your appointment “event, team meeting, next Friday at 2?” Is that the 
only way Siri can title the appt and get the other details as well?

   

  On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

   

  Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's 
not
  obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
  order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
  appointment. 
  It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
  confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
  day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
  I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
  asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
  why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
  appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
  than the Tuesday of the next week. 
  I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my 
own
  input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
  anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
  calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
  now along with setting alerts. I did read through the section in Dresdner
  about how to create appts but it said nothing about specific language to use
  for giving Siri the details.   Deidre

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RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread SSEric
Siri calls the event description the title. So you might want to change or
correct what it said. You would say, Change title: P.T

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

 

Alex

First I didn't know that I could say all of that at once. Rather than say
New calendar event, team meeting, next Friday at 2 I asked Siri to
schedule or create an appointment. Then she asked for date and time, and I
gave a specific date. How can I give the appointment or event a name like PT
or massage without having to go into calendar and writing it in? In the
example you gave is the title of your appointment event, team meeting, next
Friday at 2? Is that the only way Siri can title the appt and get the other
details as well?

 

On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

 

Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's
not
obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
appointment. 
It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
than the Tuesday of the next week. 
I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my
own
input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
now along with setting alerts. I did read through the section in Dresdner
about how to create appts but it said nothing about specific language to use
for giving Siri the details.   Deidre

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RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Ah, fantastic. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: naming calendar appointments using Siri

 

This is how I schedule an appointment.  I say schedule an appointment for 
January third at 3 p.m., title hair appointment.  Siri will then repeat the 
information and ask to confirm or not..  If you don’t say it all at the same 
time, it doesn’t work well.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

 

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From: Deidre Muccio mailto:deim...@verizon.net  

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:56 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

 

Alex

First I didn’t know that I could say all of that at once. Rather than say  “New 
calendar event, team meeting, next Friday at 2” I asked Siri to schedule or 
create an appointment. Then she asked for date and time, and I gave a specific 
date. How can I give the appointment or event a name like PT or massage without 
having to go into calendar and writing it in? In the example you gave is the 
title of your appointment “event, team meeting, next Friday at 2?” Is that the 
only way Siri can title the appt and get the other details as well?

 

On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

 

Hey folks, this will be my last question of the day. I hope it's not
obvious, but when I asked Siri to schedule an appt, I didn't know in what
order to tell her the specifics such as date, time and name of the
appointment. 
It seems she is titling all the appointments as appointment. I don't get
confirmation of the date unless I ask her later if I have an appt on that
day. I don't think the date is even spoken when later I ask her to check if
I have any appointments then tell her to give me the details once she has
asked. I can go into calendar and see if the date was marked correctly but
why doesn't Siri tell me the date; instead I get the day of the week the
appt was made for, such as Tuesday. That might mean that very day rather
than the Tuesday of the next week. 
I'm not a particularly trusting type as of yet, with Siri or my own
input, so I need to double check by going into calendar. I have to do that
anyway because I want to set the alert function. Oh, maybe once inside the
calendar I can ask Siri to title something? I am going to give that a try
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RE: naming calendar appointments using Siri

2014-12-10 Thread Deidre Muccio
Yep, I did that though PT was not great sounding. set the alert too. Ok,
thanks all. I might spend the end of tonight's practice with typing, or
maybe reading about Safari and trying to bring up what I want on the web.

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Siri calls the event description the title. So you might want to change or
correct what it said. You would say, Change title: P.T

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another moderator reminder about thank you messages

2014-12-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello all. I'm still seeing many one line and thank you messages on list.
While reading through messages today I saw at least 10 of them. These
messages are not really adding to the discussion. So, if you really feel it
necessary to write a thank you message to the list, think of who is really
benefiting from it. The person who helped you out, or the entire list.

So, please, let's all consider what messages we send to this list. Are they
really benefiting everyone to know something like, Oh, I get it, thanks. Or,
that's what I thought, thanks. Or, I don't know, thanks.

Thank you.

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Ring tones

2014-12-10 Thread Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Hello is there a way to make a ring tone from a song that I've previously 
downloaded to my phone?

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Simply Safe Voiceover accessibility

2014-12-10 Thread Cristóbal
Hello list,

 

Has anyone had experience with the Simply Safe home security system and the
iOS app? I am interested in getting it. Customer support wrote saying that
their app is indeed VO accessible, I’d like to know if others are in fact
using it and what their experiences have been. 

 

 

Thanks,

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KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Nancy Badger
Hello,
Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I have 
a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to recognize 
the document it crashes. I am sorry if this has been discussed before. Does 
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Re: Sprint: It May Be Worth Taking Another Look

2014-12-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
If someone wants access to the Sprint network, consider a provider
called Ting.  with this company consumers pay what they use.  Why
should someone pay for an unlimited plan if the consumer isn't talking
thousands of minutes a month or audio or video streaming hours a day?
With Ting, it is the same cell service at much lower prices than
Sprint.

Kelly



On 12/10/14, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:
 A company that has to pay for your business is not worth your business
 I will take a network that works thank you

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:40 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 First, just so you know, I am both a Verizon Wireless and A T  T
 Wireless
 customer.

 The reason I am posting this is to let you know that a couple of days ago,
 I
 helped a friend migrate from a Galaxy Note 2, on Verizon Wireless, to an
 iPhone 6 Plus with Sprint.

 I only deal with corporate stores as I think they provide the best
 service
 and pricing.

 Anyway, I convinced her to switch to sprint for several reasons not the
 least of which being that Sprint offers unlimited, and as I have
 discovered,
 unthrottled data speeds.

 So, for her, not only did Sprint buy her out of her current Verizon
 Wireless
 contract, they waved her activation fee and, even by leasing the phone
 for
 two years, her monthly bill is $10 less than it was with Verizon Wireless
 where she had a data cap and a limited number of texts.  Also, her
 monthly
 fee includes insurance for the phone. Moreover, in her case, she is
 getting
 much better cell coverage with Sprint than with Verizon.

 Now, of course the usual caveats must be observed such as Sprint's
 overall
 coverage in a particular area and such.

 However, the primary reason I am so impressed with Sprint is because of
 this
 new Half Off promotion they've just started.

 They want Verizon and A T   T Wireless customers and, they are willing
 to
 pay for them.  Effectively, if those customers switch to sprint, they
 will
 give you the same service you have with A T  T or Verizon Wireless at
 half
 your current rate.

 Now, for me, for instance, since I have both unlimited everything on both
 Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless, I could switch to Sprint for half
 my
 monthly fee on either.

 I was truly impressed with the level of customer service we received from
 Sprint and, if you're looking to save money and you're not happy with
 your
 current provider, perhaps you should give Sprint another look.

 As for me, because I am in the middle of beta testing both Verizon
 Wireless
 and A T  T Wireless specific products, I won't be switching to Sprint
 but,
 I can tell you that if I did not already have unlimited talk, data, and
 texting with my current providers, I would switch to Sprint in a
 proverbial
 heartbeat.

 One more thing, perhaps it just in this area but I swear the data speed
 in
 this area is faster on Sprint than on A T  T Wireless.  We were able to
 download Alex in what seems like no time at all, while in the car with
 the
 phone connected to the charger.

 For your convenience, I will paste in some support text directly from the
 Sprint site that talks about the new Half Off plan.  The link to the
 original article may be found at the bottom of the text.

 One more thing, I love that 6 Plus.  It is a beautiful piece of
 technology.
 I can't wait to get one for myself.

 Mark

 Sprint's Half Off Plan:


 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
 Last Updated: Dec 10, 2014





 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
 What is Sprint Launching?

 .Effective 12/05/2014, available for limited time only, Sprint is
 introducing the Cut Your Bill in Half Event for Verizon and ATT
 customers
 who are interested in switching to Sprint to cut their rate plan in half.
 .How it works:
 .Beginning Friday, Dec. 5, Verizon and ATT customers switching to Sprint
 need to follow these simple steps to take advantage of this limited-time
 offer:
 1.Visit sprint.com/halfprice to upload a copy of your current bill.
 2.Bring a copy of your latest bill and all of the phones on your Verizon
 or
 ATT account to turn in to your Sprint store.
 3.A Sprint representative will select the service plan that most closely
 matches the data allowance in your current monthly rate plan.
 4.Get your new phone with one of our leasing options, Sprint Easy Pay(SM)
 installment billing, or pay full retail price for the device and we will
 waive your activation fee at $36/line.
 5.Customers also may take advantage of the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
 via
 Sprint.com. For more information visit www.sprint.com/halfprice.

 What will my Sprint bill look like?

 .As of your first invoice, Sprint will display the competitor talk, text
 and
 data plan MRC as well as Sprint's Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
 .The data allowance will be displayed below the competitor's full price
 plan
 MRC  Half-Price Plan Promotion discount.
 .Additionally, if you turned in a phone(s) at 

Re: free sip phones that are voice over friendly?

2014-12-10 Thread Kelly Pierce
My suggestion currently is Vonage, if he is in the United States.  It
is not a true SIP client, but it uses data and IP to transmit voice
over the phone system.  It is not possible to receive calls on the app
though.

Kelly



On 12/10/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Yes, as Hank stated, he is hoping to find a free app which allows him to
 configure it with whichever SIP service he uses to make Voip calls from his
 iPhone.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joseph Hudson
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: free sip phones that are voice over friendly?

 Hi, what does this have to do with either devices? Is this supposed to be an
 app question question mark
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello I know the bria sip phone isthe recommended sip phone and I will be
 purchasing it at the end of this month but untel then what do folks
 recommend for free sip phones, and also work with touch tone ivr systems.
 Hank

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RE: Sprint: It May Be Worth Taking Another Look

2014-12-10 Thread Cristóbal
No kidding. My wife and I are both on Ting and our bill is around $50.00 to 
$55.00 a month. We both have iPhones. Only once did it get as high as $67.00. 
We were paying over $120.00 a month when we were both locked into Sprint. We 
got both our phones (her 4S and my 5) internationally unlocked. Domestic 
unlocking is still not possible. 
Furthermore, Ting just announced that as of 2/15/15, they will be supporting 
GSM unlocked phones. 
Ting is great.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprint: It May Be Worth Taking Another Look

If someone wants access to the Sprint network, consider a provider called Ting. 
 with this company consumers pay what they use.  Why should someone pay for an 
unlimited plan if the consumer isn't talking thousands of minutes a month or 
audio or video streaming hours a day?
With Ting, it is the same cell service at much lower prices than Sprint.

Kelly



On 12/10/14, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:
 A company that has to pay for your business is not worth your business 
 I will take a network that works thank you

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:40 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 First, just so you know, I am both a Verizon Wireless and A T  T 
 Wireless customer.

 The reason I am posting this is to let you know that a couple of days 
 ago, I helped a friend migrate from a Galaxy Note 2, on Verizon 
 Wireless, to an iPhone 6 Plus with Sprint.

 I only deal with corporate stores as I think they provide the best 
 service and pricing.

 Anyway, I convinced her to switch to sprint for several reasons not 
 the least of which being that Sprint offers unlimited, and as I have 
 discovered, unthrottled data speeds.

 So, for her, not only did Sprint buy her out of her current Verizon 
 Wireless contract, they waved her activation fee and, even by leasing 
 the phone for two years, her monthly bill is $10 less than it was 
 with Verizon Wireless where she had a data cap and a limited number 
 of texts.  Also, her monthly fee includes insurance for the phone. 
 Moreover, in her case, she is getting much better cell coverage with 
 Sprint than with Verizon.

 Now, of course the usual caveats must be observed such as Sprint's 
 overall coverage in a particular area and such.

 However, the primary reason I am so impressed with Sprint is because 
 of this new Half Off promotion they've just started.

 They want Verizon and A T   T Wireless customers and, they are 
 willing to pay for them.  Effectively, if those customers switch to 
 sprint, they will give you the same service you have with A T  T or 
 Verizon Wireless at half your current rate.

 Now, for me, for instance, since I have both unlimited everything on 
 both Verizon Wireless and A T  T Wireless, I could switch to Sprint 
 for half my monthly fee on either.

 I was truly impressed with the level of customer service we received 
 from Sprint and, if you're looking to save money and you're not happy 
 with your current provider, perhaps you should give Sprint another 
 look.

 As for me, because I am in the middle of beta testing both Verizon 
 Wireless and A T  T Wireless specific products, I won't be switching 
 to Sprint but, I can tell you that if I did not already have 
 unlimited talk, data, and texting with my current providers, I would 
 switch to Sprint in a proverbial heartbeat.

 One more thing, perhaps it just in this area but I swear the data 
 speed in this area is faster on Sprint than on A T  T Wireless.  We 
 were able to download Alex in what seems like no time at all, while 
 in the car with the phone connected to the charger.

 For your convenience, I will paste in some support text directly from 
 the Sprint site that talks about the new Half Off plan.  The link to 
 the original article may be found at the bottom of the text.

 One more thing, I love that 6 Plus.  It is a beautiful piece of 
 technology.
 I can't wait to get one for myself.

 Mark

 Sprint's Half Off Plan:


 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event Last Updated: Dec 10, 2014





 FAQs about the Cut Your Bill in Half Event
 What is Sprint Launching?

 .Effective 12/05/2014, available for limited time only, Sprint is
 introducing the Cut Your Bill in Half Event for Verizon and ATT
 customers
 who are interested in switching to Sprint to cut their rate plan in half.
 .How it works:
 .Beginning Friday, Dec. 5, Verizon and ATT customers switching to Sprint
 need to follow these simple steps to take advantage of this limited-time
 offer:
 1.Visit sprint.com/halfprice to upload a copy of your current bill.
 2.Bring a copy of your latest bill and all of the phones on your Verizon
 or
 ATT account to turn in to your Sprint store.
 3.A Sprint representative will select the service plan that most closely
 matches the data allowance 

Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Turner
Any idea how large the file is?
Are all other apps closed out of the app switcher?
I've only seen KNFB Reader crash when there are limited resources available.
Richard


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 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
 have a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to 
 recognize the document it crashes. I am sorry if this has been discussed 
 before. Does anyone have any solutions for this? This document is time 
 sensitive and confidential. I would prefer to deal with it independently as 
 opposed to asking help from a sighted person. Any help would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
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Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Nancy Badger
Richard,
The first thing I tried was to close all of the apps from the app switcher. 
That did not make any difference. The file is only 13 pages long.
Thanks
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Any idea how large the file is?
 Are all other apps closed out of the app switcher?
 I've only seen KNFB Reader crash when there are limited resources available.
 Richard
 
 
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
 
 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 
 
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
 have a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to 
 recognize the document it crashes. I am sorry if this has been discussed 
 before. Does anyone have any solutions for this? This document is time 
 sensitive and confidential. I would prefer to deal with it independently as 
 opposed to asking help from a sighted person. Any help would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
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Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Turner
Nancy, I would suggest calling KNFB Reader: 1-877-547-1500
That is the phone number on their web site.
Best of luck,
Richard


Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

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 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Richard,
 The first thing I tried was to close all of the apps from the app switcher. 
 That did not make any difference. The file is only 13 pages long.
 Thanks
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Any idea how large the file is?
 Are all other apps closed out of the app switcher?
 I've only seen KNFB Reader crash when there are limited resources available.
 Richard
 
 
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
 
 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 
 
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
 have a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to 
 recognize the document it crashes. I am sorry if this has been discussed 
 before. Does anyone have any solutions for this? This document is time 
 sensitive and confidential. I would prefer to deal with it independently as 
 opposed to asking help from a sighted person. Any help would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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 UT Chattanooga
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Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Charles Rivard
How large is the document?  Do you have other apps running in the 
background?  Does the KNFB reader crash on other .pdf documents as well, or 
is it just when working with this particular one?


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Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
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Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Have you tried scanning other pdf files?

John Diakogeorgiou

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
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 Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
 have a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to 
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RE: found trick or work around for announcing caller id more then once in ios 8.1.2.

2014-12-10 Thread Todd Bernhard
Hi everyone.  Todd here, developer of All Access.  Some of you may also have my 
AutoRingtone apps.  Those apps let you create talking caller ID ringtones that 
announce the caller, and your name or title in dozens of text to speech voices. 
 It works with VoiceOver.  You still have to download and install the ringtones 
on iTunes but that is an apple requirement, my here are free and pro versions,

Details at http://AutoRingtone.com

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Re: test

2014-12-10 Thread Pete Nalda
Came through. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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test

2014-12-10 Thread Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Can someone tell me if my messages are getting through to the list? I'm not 
getting any responses so I'm not sure if I'm getting through.
Thanks

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Re: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Nancy Badger
Yes and they have always worked fine.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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 On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:15 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
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 Have you tried scanning other pdf files?
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
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 Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I 
 have a PDF document that I want it to recognize. Every time I ask it to 
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 sensitive and confidential. I would prefer to deal with it independently as 
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Re: test

2014-12-10 Thread Michael McKay
Yes your messages are coming through loud and clear.

Cheers!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05

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 laury-johns...@michigan.gov wrote:
 
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RE: test

2014-12-10 Thread Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Ok maybe no one responded to my inquiry because no one has an answer for me

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Yes your messages are coming through loud and clear.

Cheers!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05

Sent from my iPhone

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Can someone tell me if my messages are getting through to the list? I’m not 
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Thanks

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Home Thermostat Controlled by iPhone

2014-12-10 Thread Andy Baracco
A while back, there was talk on this list about a smart home thermostat that 
can be controlled with an iPhone. As usual, because it didnt’ apply to me at 
the time, I didn’t save the info. Does anyone have info about such a beast, and 
is it accessible to blind folks?

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Re: continuem reading with iBooks on iOS8?

2014-12-10 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

Both the two-finger flick up and two-finger flick down commands for continuous 
reading work for me in iBooks. It is necessary to first touch the content 
portion of the display before issuing either command. Otherwise, VO reads the 
entire current screen rather than the book text.

If these steps are being followed, first perform a reboot. If that doesn't fix 
the problem, use iTunes to repair/update iOS.

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Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi there,
 
 
 As a daily user of iBooks, i found it frustrated that for some unknown
 reason, i can't do a two finger slide down for continuem reading. This
 happen since ios8...
 
 Is there any extra commands that i've missed, or, it is just, a vo bug?
 
 Now, i need to manually turn the page by page...
 
 Your help is very much appreciated
 
 Thanks very much
 
 Joanne
 
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Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Agent086b
Hello all,
I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
Thanks for any help.
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RE: KNFB Reader crashing

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Nancy,

I know this doesn't solve the problem you have with KNFB and this particular 
document, but have you ever purchased Prizmo so you could try to recognize the 
document using that app? It would also be interesting if it is something in the 
file which causes the crash and whether it would do the same to Prizmo.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Hello,
Kate and FB reader has been working very well for me until this morning. I have 
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RE: test

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Laury,

 

If you refer to the message about making ringtones then the answer is Yes, you 
can make ringtones from songs. You can do this in many different ways using one 
of a number of apps out there, any third-party program which allows you to cut 
a 40 second or less segment from a song or you can use iTunes.

 

I prefer iTunes since it’s already on my PC anyways and I posted detailed 
instructions not that long ago as to how to do this. If you go to the list 
archive (link is at the bottom of all messages) you can find it by searching 
for “Creating ringtones from songs using iTunes 12 - the complete guide” which 
was the subject of the post.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: test

 

Ok maybe no one responded to my inquiry because no one has an answer for me

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael McKay
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: test

 

Yes your messages are coming through loud and clear.

 

Cheers!

Michael G. McKay BA, '05

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 10, 2014, at 21:34, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
laury-johns...@michigan.gov mailto:laury-johns...@michigan.gov  wrote:

Can someone tell me if my messages are getting through to the list? I’m not 
getting any responses so I’m not sure if I’m getting through.

Thanks

 

Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

BSBP Detroit office

3038 W. Grand Blvd. ste. 4-450

Detroit, MI 48202

P: 313.456.3289

F: 313.456.1645

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RE: Home Thermostat Controlled by iPhone

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Andy,

 

I have been using the thermostat by www.RadioThermostat.com 
http://www.RadioThermostat.com  for several years now and they work great and 
the app is accessible. I know a few people posted that they have been able to 
find the thermostat which I believe is $140 from the website for $99 from Home 
Depot. Of course you also will need a professional installer to install this 
since it requires an extra wire to be run from the furnace to wherever you want 
the thermostat. This is a 24 Volt line which provides power to the thermostat. 
If you are lucky your existing cable may have 4 wires in it in which case you 
are good, if not a completely new cable may need to be installed. You can also 
search the archive for “Radio Thermostat” and you’ll find some of the old posts.

 

There is also a WiFi thermostat from Nest available, but it’s more expensive 
and I don’t know about the accessibility although one would hope that it is 
accessible. You can easily find it on the Apple Store since it is sold there. 
Just look under “home automation”, can’t remember the price, but I think it was 
over $200.

 

There is starting to be all sorts of neat stuff showing up in the area of home 
automation. I just purchased 3 wireless security monitoring cameras for my 
retail business. They are from a company called Dropcam which I believe was 
purchased by Nest. Of course I can’t see the camera feed, but the app is very 
accessible, I could easily set up the cameras and they do have 2-way voice 
communication so I can open the app, select a camera and hear what it picks up 
and the Talkback button is accessible so I can talk through the built-in 
speaker.

 

I am also about to order the first WiFi connected thermostat which is now 
available for in-floor heating from the company Nuheat. It is called the 
“Signature” and I was able to find it for $190 (most places including Amazon 
sell it for $250 to $275). The app which I already downloaded has a demo mode 
and it seems to be very accessible. Like I said, all sorts of neat stuff out 
there and I really want to buy some of the Philipps Hue LED light bulbs which 
you can control with an app (turn them on/off, dim them, change their colour, 
program them to come on at certain times and all that), but they are still 
quite expensive and I am hoping the price might come down as competitors may 
also release products like that.

 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Home Thermostat Controlled by iPhone

 

A while back, there was talk on this list about a smart home thermostat that 
can be controlled with an iPhone. As usual, because it didnt’ apply to me at 
the time, I didn’t save the info. Does anyone have info about such a beast, and 
is it accessible to blind folks?

 

Andy

I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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RE: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not sure about printing, but you can definitely forward it to email. Just swipe 
down on a message in a thread, you'll hear Voiceover say More. Double tap and 
the message you were on will be selected. You can double tap other messages in 
the thread to select them although unfortunately Voiceover does not say 
selected. Then at the bottom you have an option to delete on the left and an 
option to forward on the right.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Hello all,
I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
Thanks for any help.
Max

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Re: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
I  or delete. I don’t hear more. I am in my list of text messages. Am I in the 
correct place?
Thanks again.
Max
must be missing something. When I swipe down on a message all I hear is activate
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Not sure about printing, but you can definitely forward it to email. Just 
 swipe down on a message in a thread, you'll hear Voiceover say More. Double 
 tap and the message you were on will be selected. You can double tap other 
 messages in the thread to select them although unfortunately Voiceover does 
 not say selected. Then at the bottom you have an option to delete on the 
 left and an option to forward on the right.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, yes you have to activate the person's text message window first before you 
can forward it. Dana once you have selected somebody's message, you can swipe 
down and you will hear option such as more and then double tap on that and then 
you will  be able to find forward.
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I  or delete. I don’t hear more. I am in my list of text messages. Am I in 
 the correct place?
 Thanks again.
 Max
 must be missing something. When I swipe down on a message all I hear is 
 activate
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Not sure about printing, but you can definitely forward it to email. Just 
 swipe down on a message in a thread, you'll hear Voiceover say More. 
 Double tap and the message you were on will be selected. You can double tap 
 other messages in the thread to select them although unfortunately Voiceover 
 does not say selected. Then at the bottom you have an option to delete on 
 the left and an option to forward on the right.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Subject: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them
 
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 I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
 Thanks for any help.
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Beginner questions [was Re: shortcut hints]

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you're changing roter settings then IOS is interpreting your touches, 
swipes and taps as flicks up and down. I'm not sure if it's been 
mentioned or not, but you might want to check out the VoiceOver practice 
area. by going into Settings - General - Accessibility - VoiceOver 
and double tap on the VoiceOver practice button.


The keyboard is the same in every application, but if IOS knows you're 
entering an email address, you will see a few extra keys on the keyboard 
down around the space bar, like the at symbol and the period.


On 12/10/2014 10:52 AM, Deidre Muccio wrote:

Ah, the beauty of the rotor again! Only thing is that when I am swiping
or tapping around I toggle what the rotor is set on so I continually
turn sounds on and off, etc. I’m laughing. *I’ll just keep touching
around to shortcut vo and see what kind of lag there is!*

*I discovered something interesting today. I went into a
Utilities folder the former user must have created. Voice memos,
calculator, compass and contacts were in there. I’m not even sure what
app I opened except after awhile I seemed to be in an edit field and
later when I was trying to close everything and app switcher wasn’t
saying anything was open, I swear I was still in an edit field and it
appeared as if I was in Safari. I swiped up with 3 fingers even though
vo was not giving me any feedback and finally got out of the edit field
and closed whatever I had inadvertently opened. Anyway, no matter which
apps search field I was in, I found the letters easily. This leads me to
ask if the keyboard is easier to use in some applications than others,
or might I be approaching the possibility of actually being able to find
the letters I want? I even saw that I could flick and run through the
letters, vo spoke the shift key and more numbers etc. *

**

*Subject:*Re: shortcut hints

That is a hint. Hints are spoken about a second after whatever you
touch, if a hint is present. You don't need to wait for the hint before
you keep moving, though.

To disable hints, go to Settings  General  Accessibility  VoiceOver,
and double tap the speak hints, on switch button to turn it off. This
will disable all hints, though, which I don't recommend for new users or
for anyone if a major upgrade has just been installed. You can miss
messages that tell you what some button or other control does, and hints
for even basic things can serve as a reminder on what to do if you forget.

Your other option is to put Hints in your rotor. This way, you can rotor
to Hints and flick up or down to turn them on or off, letting you enable
them when you need to. From VoiceOver's settings, find Rotor and double
tap. Find Hints, double tap so VO says it is selected, and you're done.

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Re: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Agent086b
Sorry,
I feel stupid I can’t get any other option like more. There is only one message 
in the conversation. As I say when I flick up or down I just get those Two 
options. I wouldn’t worry  but I am wanting to keep this message before setting 
up my replacement iPhone 6.
Thanks all for your patients.
Max
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:35 pm, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, yes you have to activate the person's text message window first before 
 you can forward it. Dana once you have selected somebody's message, you can 
 swipe down and you will hear option such as more and then double tap on that 
 and then you will  be able to find forward.
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I  or delete. I don’t hear more. I am in my list of text messages. Am I in 
 the correct place?
 Thanks again.
 Max
 must be missing something. When I swipe down on a message all I hear is 
 activate
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Not sure about printing, but you can definitely forward it to email. Just 
 swipe down on a message in a thread, you'll hear Voiceover say More. 
 Double tap and the message you were on will be selected. You can double tap 
 other messages in the thread to select them although unfortunately 
 Voiceover does not say selected. Then at the bottom you have an option to 
 delete on the left and an option to forward on the right.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
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RE: Announcement of darks guy notifications

2014-12-10 Thread Danny Leung
Hi,

Is the app available in Canada? I did a search on it but couldn't find it. 


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Wren Langley
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:17 PM
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Subject: Announcement of darks guy notifications

Hi all, sometime back people were wondering if dark sky would alert to freezing 
rain or sleet or frozen precipitation. It does alert to sleet and snow, but I 
don't know about freezing rain yet. Although that a freezing rain advisory was 
issued today so I believe that it would alert to freezing rain also. So to 
clarify this is just to answer the question that people were wondering about 
sometime back and I said that I would write in if I got any answer to the 
question. God bless, Wren Langley

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RE: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

2014-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Max,

More is the only option in the action rotor. What you do, however, is double 
tap on More. As I said, this will select the message you have focus on even 
though there is no indication that it is selected. You can then flick through 
the conversation and double tap on other messages to select them. The Delete 
and Forward options appear at the bottom of the screen underneath the 
conversation after you double tapped on More.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Agent086b
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:58 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Is it possible to forward text messages or print them

Sorry,
I feel stupid I can’t get any other option like more. There is only one message 
in the conversation. As I say when I flick up or down I just get those Two 
options. I wouldn’t worry  but I am wanting to keep this message before setting 
up my replacement iPhone 6.
Thanks all for your patients.
Max
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:35 pm, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, yes you have to activate the person's text message window first before 
 you can forward it. Dana once you have selected somebody's message, you can 
 swipe down and you will hear option such as more and then double tap on that 
 and then you will  be able to find forward.
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I  or delete. I don’t hear more. I am in my list of text messages. Am I in 
 the correct place?
 Thanks again.
 Max
 must be missing something. When I swipe down on a message all I hear is 
 activate
 
 On 11 Dec 2014, at 2:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Not sure about printing, but you can definitely forward it to email. Just 
 swipe down on a message in a thread, you'll hear Voiceover say More. 
 Double tap and the message you were on will be selected. You can double tap 
 other messages in the thread to select them although unfortunately 
 Voiceover does not say selected. Then at the bottom you have an option to 
 delete on the left and an option to forward on the right.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Hello all,
 I have a need to either print or forward a text message. Can this be done?
 Thanks for any help.
 Max
 
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