Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

[Kevin Gibbs]

 I just installed iOS 9.01.I still have the same problem. When you have a 
multiple message thread, it merely says, "multiple items."   It used to say the 
exact number of messages in the thread. Is there anyway to get this behavior 
back? 

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RE: Settings always in app switcher

[Alex Stone]

Excuse me for being stupid, but I don't understand this message at all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Rathburn
Sent: 23 September 2015 16:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

 
'Settings' is the App-switcher on my iPhone 6 Plus running IOS 8.41 and always 
has been.
 
Dan
 
 
 
 

From: Andy Baracco   
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

I always do that when I am finished using the phone.
 
Andy
 
From: Pinky   
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

I would suggest turning off your phone and turning it back on.

 

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

 

I have not seen that either. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

 

I have not seen that. 

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Andy Baracco  > wrote:

I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go 
into the app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not 
launched it. i close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into the app 
switcher to close whatever app I am using, Settings is there again. Is this 
normal, and if not, what can I do to stop this?

 

Andy

I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

[John Diakogeorgiou]

It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. Also, 
the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> Hi all,
>  
> Three questions, if I may:
>  
> 1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before 
> use?
> 2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the 
> phone bit till later?
> and
> 3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?
>  
> Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
> anyone knows ...
>  
> Carol P
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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I'm also using mBraille quite a lot and prefer it over the onboard Braille.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard




i actually had not tried it with iOS 9, but it worked great with 8.4.1.
I did try forgetting the device and even rebooting the phone, no luck.
Good thing I've gotten really good with mBraille.
Richard


On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:45 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Did it work with 9.0?  In any case, I think it's worth forgetting the 
device and pairing once again.  ...


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:58 AM
Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard


My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I 
can control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just 
bongs.

Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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Re: iOS 9.01 is out

[Penny Reeder]

Jonathan, It's so great to know someone we can count on to answer
questions like these. I'm waiting until there's a fix for the bug, and
I'm grateful that I'll know when that happens because of you! (It's
okay to wait for a few more days, I haven't had time to even begin to
read the book yet!)
Penny

On 9/24/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
> I would have thought so too!
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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> Sent: 24 September 2015 00:16
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> Subject: Re: iOS 9.01 is out
>
> Excuse me for being anal, but isn't this release 9.0.1 – I don't see were
> 9.01 would be any different than 9.1!
> – Bill and Leader Dog Holland
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6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

Three questions, if I may:

1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before use?
2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the phone 
bit till later?
and
3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
anyone knows ...

Carol P

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Voice Over Volume Gets Low Significantly in Be My eyes, Is it Me Only?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I have Iphone6Plus with IOS9.00.

I have noticed that voice Over volume gets low significantly while Be My
Eyes is on. The VO volume remains low even when BME is active in App
Switcher. The VO volume becomes normal when I close BEM in App Switcher.

Is it me only experiencing this?

Thanks!

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Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

[David Renstrom]

Hi,

Has anyone found a way to make line breaks in SMS messages using a braille 
keyboard on a braille display, i.e. without sending the message? As you 
probably know, pressing Enter now means send and not just a new line.

Thanks,
/David R.

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Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I can't think what you'd want to do that for.  I think you'd have to select by 
word, delete that word, or whatever you wanted to do, then continue.

Do try it out!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fazil 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:54 AM
  Subject: RE: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!


  Can I select every other word in a line?

  Thanks!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

   

  hi Gerry,

  This is what you do:

   

  firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit selection. you will hear 
instructions this point. At this time, you select what you want to edit by and 
you do this by flicking one finger down and you will see characters lines et 
cetera. You then just start editing. to do this you then swipe left or right 
right selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after that, I 
cannot describe it properly but you can press delete key on what you have 
selected that should get you started and do experiment because you can't do 
anything dangerous, as long as you don't mind if you do the wrong thing!

  Hope this helps.

   

  Carol P

  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille


  On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:

  I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If you put it online 
selection and the only thing that you have available to use is words how do you 
make the line selection work? Thank you. Jerry Mader

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
article to another list. Worked like a charm.


On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, 
it's well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the bugs so far mentioned 
...

   

  I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded 
the selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by flicking down.  How I 
wish I'd had a clue on that one!  

   

  Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!

   

  Carol P

   

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Battery Dead When Plugged In

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Everyone, 

After updating to IOS 9 on my 5s my phone is not maintaining a charge. The
past two nights I have gone to bed, my phone was plugged in while I either
read a book or listened to a baseball game. In the morning, my phone had
zero battery charge. Both nights I had my Bose noise cancelling headphones
on. Has anyone else experienced this? 

 

The other odd thing is this, when we plug the phone into another USB cable,
it starts charging. Once vo comes back, I can put the phone on the initial
charger and it continues to charge to 100 percent. 

 

Any input would be appreciated. 

 

Thank you. 

 

Lynda and Sir Gregory--A noble friend and guide 

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Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

[Gmail]

I don't think this is currently possible without the use of a hardware keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Can I select every other word in a line?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!
>  
> hi Gerry,
> 
> This is what you do:
>  
> firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
> rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit selection. you will hear 
> instructions this point. At this time, you select what you want to edit by 
> and you do this by flicking one finger down and you will see characters lines 
> et cetera. You then just start editing. to do this you then swipe left or 
> right right selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after 
> that, I cannot describe it properly but you can press delete key on what you 
> have selected that should get you started and do experiment because you can't 
> do anything dangerous, as long as you don't mind if you do the wrong thing!
> 
> Hope this helps.
>  
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:
> 
> I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
> select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If you put it online 
> selection and the only thing that you have available to use is words how do 
> you make the line selection work? Thank you. Jerry Mader
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
> article to another list. Worked like a charm.
> 
> On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, it's 
> well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the bugs so far mentioned ...
>  
> I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded the 
> selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by flicking down.  How I 
> wish I'd had a clue on that one!  
>  
> Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!
>  
> Carol P
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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Just to say please continue to report this bug to Apple at 
accessibil...@apple.com until it is properly fixed. As has been said on other 
lists, the more people who report it the greater the likelyhood that Apple 
might listen and fix it. They need to be made fully aware by a lot of people 
just what a serious problem it is/can be for  us. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPad

> On 24 Sep 2015, at 06:04, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard
> 
> My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
> control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
> But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
> Quick Nav is off.
> This is iOS 9.0.1.
> Any ideas?
> Richard
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23 Things You Can Do in iOS 9 That You Couldn't Do in iOS 8

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

The following GizModo article has a couple of iOS 9 hidden treasures that
you may find useful.  I am particularly fond of number 16 and number 21.

The URL to the original post is located at the end of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

23 Things You Can Do in iOS 9 That You Couldn't Do in iOS 8

It may have come to your attention that there's a fresh version of iOS in
town. But aside from a font change, what's different about this new edition
of Apple's mobile OS? To help you navigate around iOS 9, we've listed all
the tricks that it can do that were beyond the capabilities of iOS 8.

1.
Get public transit directions
Unlike Google, Apple updates all its stock apps with iOS, so there are some
new goodies to be found: Apple Maps now includes bus, train and subway
schedule information for a handful of cities worldwide (like New York and
London). You can also see right on the map if your ride is currently
delayed.

2.
Read the news
While you could get the news in iOS 8, you couldn't get the new news-reading
News app Apple has bundled in with iOS 9. It features some carefully curated
content from a group of partner publishers, with articles specially
formatted for iOS devices in an easy-to-follow layout.

3.
Access iCloud more easily
iCloud has never been the easiest cloud storage service to actually get at
(most of what it does happens behind the scenes) but iOS 9 makes it a little
more visible: Go to Settings, iCloud then iCloud Drive and toggle the switch
marked Show on Home Screen to enable the icon shortcut.

4.
Split the screen
Attention iPad owners! You can all take advantage of the Slide Over feature
in iOS 9 that brings in a second app as a sidebar-just slide your finger in
from the right. iPad Air 2 (and iPad Pro) users can also activate the more
advanced Split View by tapping and dragging the Slide Over border line.

5.
Go back quickly
Were Android users right all along? If you look up in the top-left corner of
the iOS 9 interface you'll often see a Back button there for those times
you're jumping between apps to check maps or links. It can be a quicker way
of navigating around than double-tapping on the Home button.

6.
Run smarter searches
As Spotlight in iOS 9 learns more about you, it will make smarter search
recommendations-swipe left from the main home screen to test it out. Your
most frequently used contacts, apps, locations and more will be shown first,
but you can keep scrolling down to see further options.

7.
Write on email attachments
If you've always wanted to doodle on the attachments your friends and
colleagues send you, then now's your chance: Look for the Markup button when
you open or press and hold on a particular attachment (where it appears
depends on the file format of the attachment you're opening).

8.
Take better Notes
Notes is another stock app with a lot of new stuff to show off with iOS 9.
The revamped app lets you add web links, photos, checklists and drawings to
your notes now, and everything can be synced via iCloud. There are now more
formatting options to play around with, so watch out Evernote.

9.
Abandon poor wifi connections
The new Wi-Fi Assist feature in iOS 9 lets you hop onto a speedy LTE
connection if the wifi connection you're using isn't up to scratch (quite
likely if you're out and about). Head to Settings then Cellular and tap on
the Wi-Fi Assist toggle switch at the bottom to make use of the feature.

10.
Zoom in on your videos
You can now pinch and zoom on your video clips as well as your photos-go
ahead and try it. There's also a different way of choosing video and slo-mo
recording modes, as long as your device supports them (open up Settings, tap
on Photos & Camera and look under the Camera heading).

11.
Get listening faster
Try plugging your headphones into your newly updated iOS 9 device-notice
anything different? Your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad should show a small icon
depicting the music player app you most recently used, which you launch with
a tap (or a slide upwards if the screen is locked).

12.
Add events from your emails
Part of Apple's new, smarter, more proactive Siri and iOS strategy involves
spotting events in your email messages and automatically adding them to your
calendar (very Google Now-esque). Prompts should appear in both the Mail and
Calendar apps when potential events are spotted.

13.
Search through Settings
Finding what you need in the iOS Settings app has never really been a walk
in the park, but help has arrived with iOS 9. You'll notice a new search box
at the top of the front screen in Settings: Enter your query here (e.g.
"Bluetooth" and all of the matching options appear in a list underneath.

14.
Block out the ads
Controversially, Safari on iOS now supports mobile ad blockers, so you can
browse the internet at large free from memory-hogging, attention-grabbing
promotions. If you go into the Safari section of Settings, you'll see a new
Content Blockers option, though you need to install one (or more) first.

Re: Losing wifi connection after updating.

['SammieDogsMom' via VIPhone]

HI Jennifer! No I didn't lose my data. 

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Liz. Did you lose all of your data? 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 2:18 PM, 'SammieDogsMom' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I had this happen to me a couple of weeks ago before the update. No matter 
>> how many times I reset my router my phone would lose the wifi connection. I 
>> finally held the power and home buttons for 10 seconds, reset my router one 
>> more time, and reentered my wifi key. For some reason it worked. I haven't 
>> lost my connection since. 
>> 
>> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
>> 
>> 
>> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 
>> 
>> http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
>> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No problems with my 5S either at home or at my work. Have you added or 
>>> changed anything else with respect to your WiFi?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:04 AM
>>> To: viphone 
>>> Subject: Losing wifi connection after updating.
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I've reset my router and modem, reset network settings... and I am
>>> constantly losing my wifi signal.  Anyone else noticing this?
>>> thanks
>>> Jen
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Re: Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know

[Kevin Gibbs]

I saw theNews App in Settings.  But I can't find it on my Home Screen.

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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi, what will this app do different from the winbraille program that 
translates brl to print or from txt to brl?  I know that winbraille is for 
the pc but, files can be taken to voice dream reader from dropbox..  Am I 
missing something here?  Andy and Shubert


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Prater

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on 
iOS


I'd like it if I could just read the braille. The Bard mobile app has just 
gotten older and older, and is a pain to use for reading now.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I'd take the feedback you're getting on the price into account, but unless 
an app is free, someone is always going to complain about the price. No 
one can speak for someone else when it comes to how much they're willing 
to spend for a feature or convenience. If sales prove the people who think 
it's too expensive to be true then you can always lower the price, add 
more features or drop it and move on to another idea. I'm for more apps 
and more options even if I choose not to purchase a particular app or 
service. Good luck!



On 09/23/2015 08:25 AM, jn nt wrote:
Hello folks,
Thank you for your precious discussion on Voice Braille Reader.
As Richard Turner, Nicki Keck and others indicated this might not
be reasonably enough to purchase for people who are fluent Braille
readers with Braille Display.  I believe Voice Braille Reader helps to
share the same stories on Braille files between Braille expert and its
beginners/no Braille users like kids and parents on single device.  I
want to believe Voice Braille Reader would be available to meet their
demands and your attentions as well.
Since BARD app on iOS seems not to have output function letting third
party app, you have to use own PC or Mac to download Braille File from
NLS BARD site or Safari on iOS to download for Voice Braille Reader as
Nicki indicated.  If you store the file on cloud storage,
you can help saving storage of your device.
We welcome your discussions and hope to hear more from you.
Regards,
Jun
Developer/C-Fes Japan



2015年9月22日火曜日 10時55分57秒 UTC+9 jn nt:

   Greetings to VIPhone members and friends,

   I hope this find you well.

   Excuse us for sudden message.
   We are C-FES Co. Ltd, developer of iOS apps and   we have recently
   released iOS app called “Voice Braille Reader” and would like to
   introduce to VIPhone members.

   “Voice Braille Reader” is optimized with all NABCC compliant BRF and
   BRL files by iOS devices and recite into voices and words on device
   display.  Furthermore, we are currently working on optimizing with
   UEB compliant files for future version up as well.

   We developed and are providing Japanese version of iOS app called
   BES reader from July, 2015 by association with Nippon Lighthouse,
   Welfare Center for the Blind;
   http://www.lighthouse.or.jp/index2e.html
   
   to improve user interface especially made for people who are
   visually impaired and lower-vision.  Of corse, Voice Braille Reader
   derive its UI and manipulation capability entirely from developments
   with Nippon Lighthouse.

   We just have released Voice Braille Reader last week and we would
   like to take this opportunity to let it know its usefulness and
   inovativeness to many people of Braille community in the United 
States.


   Here is one on review we’ve heard from US user for your reference;

https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/app-for-reading-grade-2-brai

lle-files-on-ios/

   Experience it handiness and easy-manipulations of Voice Braille 
Reader!


   Enjoy listening Braille!

   Link to iTunes AppStore:
   https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1026634631?ls=1=8
   

   All the Best,

   Jun Numamoto
   Promotion
   C-fes Co., Ltd.

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Re: Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know

[Margaret Booth]

Thanks mark for this informative article.  

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Sep 2015, at 12:25 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> In my opinion, the following MacWorld article is a must-read.  I have edited
> the piece, removing URL and links to exterior photos.  Please forgive any
> oversight, on my part.
> 
> The link to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Good Luck and Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know
> Once you upgrade to iOS 9, take some time to peruse the  Settings app to
> tweak it just to your liking.
> 
> The Settings app is like the bedroom on every episode of Cribs: It's where
> the magic happens. Whenever you update iOS on your iPhone or iPad, it pays
> to peruse the settings to find, enable, and configure any new features just
> to your liking. 
> 
> iOS 9 doesn't have quite as many settings changes as iOS 8 did, and the best
> addition by far is a Search box at the top of the main Settings menu, so if
> you can't remember, say, where to enable Personal Hotspot (spoiler:
> Cellular) or how to turn off shake-to-undo (Accessibility), all you have to
> do is start typing in that Search box to pinpoint exactly where your desired
> setting lives. Such a time-saver. 
> 
> Here's a rundown of the major changes in Settings in iOS 9, as well as some
> key settings that didn't change, but you still might want to revisit. If
> you've got any questions, hit us up in the comments. 
> 
> Cellular
> Not much is new in the Cellular settings, with the exception of SIM PIN,
> which used to be in the Phone settings, and now is here in Cellular. This
> lets you put a separate PIN code on your SIM card, so if someone had your
> stolen or misplaced phone, they couldn't use your SIM card in another
> device. Your iPhone or iPad will prompt you to enter the SIM pin whenever
> you swap out the SIM (which you probably won't do much, if ever) or when you
> reboot the device. 
> 
> SIM PIN is off by default, so if you want to use it, first you'll turn it
> on. Your SIM has a default PIN on it already: For AT and Verizon, it's
> . For Sprint and T-Mobile, it's 1234. (Great PINs, y'all.) Once you
> enter that-and you have to get it right within three tries or your SIM will
> be locked, but I believe in you-you can tap Change PIN and change it to
> something good. You can stick with four digits, or use more, up to eight
> digits total, all numbers. Again, pick something memorable because if you
> enter the wrong PIN too many times, your SIM will be permanently locked and
> you'll have to ask your carrier for a new one. 
> 
> The other addition to this screen is Wi-Fi Assist, located down below the
> huge list of apps with toggles to allow them to use cellular data. That's on
> by default, and it'll use some of your cellular data to boost a poor Wi-Fi
> signal. If your Wi-Fi network barely reaches every corner of your abode, you
> might want to leave this on. If you use up your monthly data allotment every
> single month, you might want to turn this off. 
> 
> Notifications
> Notifications settings didn't change a lot, but there is a new sort order:
> Recent. When you select that, you'll see the notifications in reverse
> chronological order, meaning the newest one is always on top. That's great
> for when you notice a banner just as it's going away, or when you hear your
> phone beep from across the room. 
> 
> In Recent mode, you also get a switch for Group By App, which means each
> app's notifications will appear together, newest on top. When a newer
> notification comes in, all the notifications for that app will jump to the
> top of the list. If you don't group the notifications by app, they'll be
> grouped by day, letting you dismiss an entire day's worth of notifications
> at once. 
> 
> If you always want a certain app's notifications on top, change Recent to
> Manual, and then you get a list of every app that sends you notifications,
> and you can slide them to your preferred order. Manual mode removes the
> Group By App switch, since Manual grouping always groups your notifications
> by app. 
> 
> Below, is the list of your apps that have requested notifications, in
> alphabetical order. That makes it easy to find the app whose notifications
> you want to tweak, but the controls themselves haven't changed since iOS 8.
> You can still decide if notifications can appear in Notification Center, on
> the Lock Screen, or both, and if you want to be notified in the form of
> vanishing banners, must-be-dismissed alerts, a badged home screen icon, or a
> sound. Even without much change in the Notifications settings, it's a good
> idea to "audit" your notifications from time to time, since they lose their
> impact if you have so many coming in that you start ignoring them
> altogether. 
> 
> General
> A few small changes can be found in the General section of the Settings app:
> 
> 
> Siri
> You can change 

continuous re-booting up to 9.01

[Agent086b]

Hello all,
I decided to update my wife’s iPhone 5 from 8.41 or what ever the latest 8 
version was. I am told the phone updated successfully. When I go through the 
setup process the phone re-boots I am in a continuous loop. I thought I would 
update this phone before our iPad and my iPhone6 as the iPhone 5 is used least.
Hope somebody can help.
Thanks as always.
Max.

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RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

[Kevin Gibbs]

 For the record, I am only dealing with publicly released software. I have 
absolutely no access to beta versions. Therefore, I can't possibly be violating 
any restriction on this list about undiscussable features.This is simply a 
behavior that used to work in iOS 8. It doesn't work now. That's my only 
comment. I simply wondered if anyone else noticed it and if anyone has any idea 
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RE: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

[Fazil]

Can I select every other word in a line?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

 

hi Gerry,

This is what you do:

 

firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit selection. you will hear 
instructions this point. At this time, you select what you want to edit by and 
you do this by flicking one finger down and you will see characters lines et 
cetera. You then just start editing. to do this you then swipe left or right 
right selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after that, I 
cannot describe it properly but you can press delete key on what you have 
selected that should get you started and do experiment because you can't do 
anything dangerous, as long as you don't mind if you do the wrong thing!

Hope this helps.

 

Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille


On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:

I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If you put it online 
selection and the only thing that you have available to use is words how do you 
make the line selection work? Thank you. Jerry Mader

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
article to another list. Worked like a charm.


On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, it's 
well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the bugs so far mentioned ...

 

I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded the 
selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by flicking down.  How I wish 
I'd had a clue on that one!  

 

Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!

 

Carol P

 

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RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

[Fazil]

Do I have to be online in order to use Walk-Log?
Thanks!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: pau...@roadrunner.com
Subject: RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

Hi Paula,

I am posting this to the list in case somebody else is interested in the 
information, but also CC you directly.

When you first open Walklog I assume that just as for me, the Log tab is 
selected and that you have an "Edit" button at the top left of the screen, then 
in the middle is a heading called "Log" and at the top right is a button called 
"GPS".
Double tap on GPS, after a moment it will display your location/address at the 
top with a map, but you can just ignore all of that and find the "Start" button 
which is in the middle at the bottom just above the home button.
Double tap start and it starts tracking, the start button now turns into a 
"Stop" button and obviously you will double tap on that when you are done with 
your walk or run.
You can at this point lock the phone, it will continue to work.
After you double tap on Stop, the button becomes a "Resume" button so if you 
stop during your walk because maybe you met somebody and want to chat or you 
want to sit on a bench somewhere, you can pause Walklog in order to only record 
the actual time walked.
If you now explore the screen you can find the information about your walk like 
the time and the distance and if you want to save this walk, there is a "Done" 
button at the top right of the screen. I fyou don't want to save it, you can 
simply tap "Cancel" at the top left of the screen.
Somebody may have done a more detailed review of Walklog, you might want to 
check on Applevis.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

Hi, I'm hoping my message got through the other day.  Just in case it didn't, 
here's what I need to know. I have walklog and would like to use it when I'm 
walking around, but I can't figure out how to start it or what to do.  If 
anyone would like to write me off list to explain how this app works, my email 
address is pau...@roadrunner.com.  Thanks for any help.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

I use Walk Log.  It is very accessible and stays on track.

DJ 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

Here's an app that I have used in the past. The app is accessible with VO.
And the app does what you want plus more. The drawback, for me anyway, to get 
the full features of the app there is a $6.00 monthly charge or $30.00 yearly 
charge. 

Donna


> On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:32 AM, David Cleveland 
> 
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> 
> I am looking for a way to tell how far I have walked using the iPhone.  
> I
like to walk around my neighborhood but I can't really tell how far I have 
walked.  I was wondering if there is an app that I can use to do this.  I would 
like it to use GPS to tell me how far it is from my starting point to my ending 
point.  My walking path goes in a loop and traditional GPS mapping apps don't 
like this and keep urging me to turn back home.
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Re: Settings in iOS 9: Every notable change you need to know

[Kevin Gibbs]

Never mind.  I found the News App.

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RE: iOS 9.01 is out

[Alex Stone]

I would have thought so too!

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Subject: Re: iOS 9.01 is out

Excuse me for being anal, but isn't this release 9.0.1 – I don't see were 9.01 
would be any different than 9.1!
– Bill and Leader Dog Holland

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Re: Battery Dead When Plugged In

[Feliciano Godoy]

Interesting. Do a hard reset by holding down the wake-sleep and home buttons 
while the phone is on. 

Strange that it works with another cable afterwords. Where is the cable plugged 
in? Wall outlet, computer etc? What if you try to charge the cable with that 
second cable that it works with afterwards and see if you get the same results?

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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:50 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> After updating to IOS 9 on my 5s my phone is not maintaining a charge. The 
> past two nights I have gone to bed, my phone was plugged in while I either 
> read a book or listened to a baseball game. In the morning, my phone had zero 
> battery charge. Both nights I had my Bose noise cancelling headphones on. Has 
> anyone else experienced this?
>  
> The other odd thing is this, when we plug the phone into another USB cable, 
> it starts charging. Once vo comes back, I can put the phone on the initial 
> charger and it continues to charge to 100 percent.
>  
> Any input would be appreciated.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
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Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Only seen the 6 a couple of times ...

There was no mention of a sim when I ordered and we don't usually find that to 
be the case here in the UK.  I have ordered one locally.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Diakogeorgiou 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS


  It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. Also, 
the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Three questions, if I may:

1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before 
use?
2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the 
phone bit till later?
and
3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
anyone knows ...

Carol P


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Re: Settings always in app switcher

[dacia . luck]

I have noticed the same thing as Jenny and Andy, since I have upgraded to I OS 
9. I don't know why it shows up like that. Even if I haven't used it.
Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I think he's just saying that the Settings app shows up in his App Switcher 
> and always has.
> 
>> On 09/24/2015 04:27 AM, Alex Stone wrote:
>> Excuse me for being stupid, but I don't understand this message at all.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dan Rathburn
>> Sent: 23 September 2015 16:14
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher
>> 
>> 
>> 'Settings' is the App-switcher on my iPhone 6 Plus running IOS 8.41 and 
>> always has been.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Andy Baracco 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher
>> 
>> I always do that when I am finished using the phone.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> From: Pinky 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher
>> 
>> I would suggest turning off your phone and turning it back on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have not seen that either.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have not seen that.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Andy Baracco >  > wrote:
>> 
>>I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go into 
>> the app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not launched 
>> it. i close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into the app 
>> switcher to close whatever app I am using, Settings is there again. Is this 
>> normal, and if not, what can I do to stop this?
>> 
>>
>> 
>>Andy
>> 
>>I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
>> 
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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Sadly, that shot in the dark missed.
 the on-screen keyboard was definitely hidden. I even tried toggling the on 
screen keyboard on and off a couple of times.
Thanks,
Richard

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> 
> Hi.  This is kind of a shot in the dark because I've not updated to iOS 9 
> yet.  But I've used the Amazon Basics Keyboard for a few years on iOS 6, 7, 
> and 8 and found that if the on screen keyboard is toggled to visible, the 
> hardware keyboard doesn't work.  The toggle key for this is the second key 
> from the right on the very top row.  I can easily make this change if I pick 
> up the keyboard while it's still on and don't pay attention to how I'm 
> holding it so I need to make sure the on screen keyboard is hidden before I 
> can use the AB keyboard again.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
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> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
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> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard
> 
> 
>> Yes I have. No luck. Thanks for the thought.
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard
>>> 
>>> My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
>>> control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
>>> But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
>>> Quick Nav is off.
>>> This is iOS 9.0.1.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Richard
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Re: Settings always in app switcher

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think he's just saying that the Settings app shows up in his App 
Switcher and always has.


On 09/24/2015 04:27 AM, Alex Stone wrote:

Excuse me for being stupid, but I don't understand this message at all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Rathburn
Sent: 23 September 2015 16:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher


'Settings' is the App-switcher on my iPhone 6 Plus running IOS 8.41 and always 
has been.

Dan





From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

I always do that when I am finished using the phone.

Andy

From: Pinky 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

I would suggest turning off your phone and turning it back on.



Ed



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher



I have not seen that either.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher



I have not seen that.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Andy Baracco  > wrote:

I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go 
into the app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not 
launched it. i close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into the app 
switcher to close whatever app I am using, Settings is there again. Is this 
normal, and if not, what can I do to stop this?



Andy

I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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underscore in Braille

[Rami]

how can i write the underscore sign while using the braille screen input 
of iOS?

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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Yes I have. No luck. Thanks for the thought.

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard
> 
> My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
> control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
> But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
> Quick Nav is off.
> This is iOS 9.0.1.
> Any ideas?
> Richard
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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Absolutely correct. I reported it to excess ability at the same time I sent the 
question to this list. I've not heard back from them as yet.
Thanks,
Richard

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:59 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
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> Hi all 
> 
> Just to say please continue to report this bug to Apple at 
> accessibil...@apple.com until it is properly fixed. As has been said on other 
> lists, the more people who report it the greater the likelyhood that Apple 
> might listen and fix it. They need to be made fully aware by a lot of people 
> just what a serious problem it is/can be for  us. 
> 
> Eleanor 
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 24 Sep 2015, at 06:04, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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>> Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
>> control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
>> But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
>> Quick Nav is off.
>> This is iOS 9.0.1.
>> Any ideas?
>> Richard
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Re: Voice Over Volume Gets Low Significantly in Be My eyes, Is it Me Only?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I experienced this as well on various of my clients devices. TIt is  a bug with 
the application

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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:47 AM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> I have Iphone6Plus with IOS9.00.
> I have noticed that voice Over volume gets low significantly while Be My Eyes 
> is on. The VO volume remains low even when BME is active in App Switcher. The 
> VO volume becomes normal when I close BEM in App Switcher.
> Is it me only experiencing this?
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Re: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Try space+E or  dot 8+space.

HTH:

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Renstrom 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:09 PM
  Subject: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard


  Hi,

   

  Has anyone found a way to make line breaks in SMS messages using a braille 
keyboard on a braille display, i.e. without sending the message? As you 
probably know, pressing Enter now means send and not just a new line.

   

  Thanks,

  /David R.


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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Lisa Belville]

Hi.  This is kind of a shot in the dark because I've not updated to iOS 9 
yet.  But I've used the Amazon Basics Keyboard for a few years on iOS 6, 7, 
and 8 and found that if the on screen keyboard is toggled to visible, the 
hardware keyboard doesn't work.  The toggle key for this is the second key 
from the right on the very top row.  I can easily make this change if I pick 
up the keyboard while it's still on and don't pay attention to how I'm 
holding it so I need to make sure the on screen keyboard is hidden before I 
can use the AB keyboard again.


HTH

Lisa

Lisa Belville
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A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
stops.  On my desk I have a work station...


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard



Yes I have. No luck. Thanks for the thought.

On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jennie Facer  
wrote:


Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.

But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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Re: Home Button For Turning Voice Over On?

[Chris Smart]

yes ... i'm tnot sure why that would change.
At 09:00 PM 9/22/2015, you wrote:
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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[jn nt]

Good Morning, all and thank you for comments and all your thoughts.

Size of Voice Braille Reader app is only 3MB and I think advantage is 
simplicity. 
Voice available is female/male and doesn't have to use 2 different apps 
such 
as win braille and VDream Reader app to listen Braille file on iOS with the 
price on tag.
Voice Braille Reader can not do everything but handy and simple.

Regards,

Jun@C-Fes, Japan

2015年9月22日火曜日 10時55分57秒 UTC+9 jn nt:

> Greetings to VIPhone members and friends,
>
> I hope this find you well.  
>
> Excuse us for sudden message.
> We are C-FES Co. Ltd, developer of iOS apps and   we have recently 
> released iOS app called “Voice Braille Reader” and would like to introduce 
> to VIPhone members.
>
> “Voice Braille Reader” is optimized with all NABCC compliant BRF and BRL 
> files by iOS devices and recite into voices and words on device display. 
>  Furthermore, we are currently working on optimizing with UEB compliant 
> files for future version up as well.
>
> We developed and are providing Japanese version of iOS app called BES 
> reader from July, 2015 by association with Nippon Lighthouse, Welfare 
> Center for the Blind; 
> http://www.lighthouse.or.jp/index2e.html
> to improve user interface especially made for people who are visually 
> impaired and lower-vision.  Of corse, Voice Braille Reader derive its UI 
> and manipulation capability entirely from developments with Nippon 
> Lighthouse.
>
> We just have released Voice Braille Reader last week and we would like to 
> take this opportunity to let it know its usefulness and inovativeness 
> to many people of Braille community in the United States.
>
> Here is one on review we’ve heard from US user for your reference;
>
> https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/app-for-reading-grade-2-brai
> lle-files-on-ios/
>
> Experience it handiness and easy-manipulations of Voice Braille Reader!
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> Enjoy listening Braille!
>
> Link to iTunes AppStore:
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Re: Home Button For Turning Voice Over On?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Yes. It will turn on voiceover on the language setup or if you previously had 
voiceover as ghe accessibility shortcut/ triple click home.

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> yes ... i'm tnot sure why that would change.
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Re: iOS 9.01 is out

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi 

There are no vo-bug fixes and I think that there will be no changes in the vo 
bugs till ios 9.2 just as in IOS8.
Regards
Davy 

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Hi everyone, if you're running iOS 9, you might like to grab iOS 9.01 which has 
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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Lisa Belville]

Okay, sorry that didn't pan out.  Just another reason why I'm holding off on 
upgrading to any flavor of iOS 9.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard


Sadly, that shot in the dark missed.
the on-screen keyboard was definitely hidden. I even tried toggling the on 
screen keyboard on and off a couple of times.

Thanks,
Richard

On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Lisa Belville  
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Hi.  This is kind of a shot in the dark because I've not updated to iOS 9 
yet.  But I've used the Amazon Basics Keyboard for a few years on iOS 6, 
7, and 8 and found that if the on screen keyboard is toggled to visible, 
the hardware keyboard doesn't work.  The toggle key for this is the second 
key from the right on the very top row.  I can easily make this change if 
I pick up the keyboard while it's still on and don't pay attention to how 
I'm holding it so I need to make sure the on screen keyboard is hidden 
before I can use the AB keyboard again.


HTH

Lisa

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Yes I have. No luck. Thanks for the thought.

On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jennie Facer  
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Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

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My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I 
can control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just 
bongs.

Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
This problem is not exclusive to the Amazon keyboard. It is happening 
with others as well. I have a Microsoft mobile keyboard that can be 
connected up to three devices and it suffers the same issues. I had it 
working the other day and then last night I was going to use it to take 
notes at Church and it would nI could not type in edit fields at all. 
This is a strange one.


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On 9/24/2015 9:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Absolutely correct. I reported it to excess ability at the same time I sent the 
question to this list. I've not heard back from them as yet.
Thanks,
Richard


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Hi all

Just to say please continue to report this bug to Apple at 
accessibil...@apple.com until it is properly fixed. As has been said on other 
lists, the more people who report it the greater the likelyhood that Apple 
might listen and fix it. They need to be made fully aware by a lot of people 
just what a serious problem it is/can be for  us.

Eleanor

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On 24 Sep 2015, at 06:04, Jennie Facer  wrote:

Have you tried turning quickNav on and the n off again?

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

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Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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Re: iOS 9.01 is out

[Davy Cuppens]

There are no bug fixes at all for voiceover. That will last at least 2 or 3 
months like in ohter ios systems.

From: Hope Paulos 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 9.01 is out

I am still running iOS 8, whatever it is… Can someone who is running iOS nine. 
One please give a list of bug fixes? I don't want to upgrade before knowing 
what they are.

Hope Paulos

On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:


  Is there a way to get out oh the beta prograo? I'm not sure if I'm running 
the update with all of the bug fixes. 


  Rebecca and Zeb
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  On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  No, if you are on the beta program you have to wait for updates to the beta.

   

   

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  If I'm running the 9.1 beta, I can't get this 9.01, right? 

  Jenifer Barr

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Recipients to text message

[Dave Bahr]

How do I add somebody to a text message to have them join in the
conversation? I can't figure it out with voiceover. I don't have to compose
a whole new message, do I? There's supposed to be a plus button, according
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SV: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

[David Renstrom]

Yes, I’ve tried these two commands and they perform a normal Enter. This means 
that the message is sent but I just want to insert a line break and continue 
writing before sending it.

Thanks,
/David R.

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Ämne: Re: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

Try space+E or  dot 8+space.

HTH:

Carol P

- Original Message -
From: David Renstrom
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:09 PM
Subject: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

Hi,

Has anyone found a way to make line breaks in SMS messages using a braille 
keyboard on a braille display, i.e. without sending the message? As you 
probably know, pressing Enter now means send and not just a new line.

Thanks,
/David R.
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Re: Settings always in app switcher

[Davy Cuppens]

I have just tested this in the appswitcher with ios 9.0 and a ipad3 and I 
can't confirm this bug. The appswitcher is just empty here after closing all 
apps.

Regards
Davy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

I have noticed the same thing as Jenny and Andy, since I have upgraded to I 
OS 9. I don't know why it shows up like that. Even if I haven't used it.

Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I think he's just saying that the Settings app shows up in his App 
Switcher and always has.



On 09/24/2015 04:27 AM, Alex Stone wrote:
Excuse me for being stupid, but I don't understand this message at all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Dan Rathburn

Sent: 23 September 2015 16:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher


'Settings' is the App-switcher on my iPhone 6 Plus running IOS 8.41 and 
always has been.


Dan





From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

I always do that when I am finished using the phone.

Andy

From: Pinky 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

I would suggest turning off your phone and turning it back on.



Ed



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher



I have not seen that either.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher



I have not seen that.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Andy Baracco  > wrote:


   I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go 
into the app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not 
launched it. i close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into 
the app switcher to close whatever app I am using, Settings is there 
again. Is this normal, and if not, what can I do to stop this?




   Andy

   I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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Re: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

[Dave Sheridan]

Hi 

I haven't upgraded to Ios 9 yet so I may have this pleasure ahead of me. I use 
a Braille Note Apex and I achieve a line break by pressing the 2 thumb keths on 
the right together. I have never achieved a line break using the standard enter 
key on Apex when using it with the iPhone. 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Sep 2015, at 12:09, David Renstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone found a way to make line breaks in SMS messages using a braille 
> keyboard on a braille display, i.e. without sending the message? As you 
> probably know, pressing Enter now means send and not just a new line.
>  
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iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
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Re: Battery drain since recent update

[Richard Turner]

mary,
I just went through all of my cellular settings and several things were on that 
I had turned off. I have no idea if those would effect battery at all.
However, I also went through Privacy, Location services and there were a few 
more that were using my location "always" that I don't recall setting that way, 
so I set those to never unless I really did want them on.
But, like you, with 9.0.1 it seems that my battery is draining faster.
Now that I have changed several things, I'll see how today goes.
Richard


> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I already checked Bluetooth and display brightness, since they were in fact 
> turned on after the big upgrade. But they did not get turned on or changed by 
> this little upgrade this afternoon. The only thing that may have changed was 
> that mail was sent to "push". I don't remember doing that, but I may have a 
> long time ago and just forgotten. I changed it to fetch on a schedule of 
> every half hour. But just in the few minutes since I sent my first message on 
> this topic, I have lost five more percent. Interestingly, mail and Siri are 
> the two big culprits according to the battery statistics in settings. And I 
> haven't used Siri hardly at all. I have used dictation, and that may be where 
> the Siri stuff is coming from. Maybe I suddenly have a revisitation of the 
> microphone not turning off bug. Hard to know.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd check the settings. Sometimes after a major upgrade, things like 
>> bluetooth are turned on. I noticed bluetooth was turned on on my iPhone 5, 
>> which surprised me, since I don't think I'd ever use a bluetooth device on 
>> that phone. Now it could be that I had it on before the upgrade, but I'd go 
>> ahead and check that and some other settings, like your display brightness.
>> 
>>> On 09/23/2015 10:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> I am curious if anyone has noticed as sharp increase in battery drain since 
>>> upgrading to 9.01. I started out with 100% when I did the update. That was 
>>> sometime around noon, or shortly after somebody posted about it to this 
>>> list. It is now 8 o'clock my time, I have certainly not been using the 
>>> phone heavily, and I am already down to 45%. I have not change anything in 
>>> terms of apps that are on our screen brightness at Cetera it could be that 
>>> my battery gauge is just messed up, and long about 20%, it will decide to 
>>> sit there for an hour or so and not change. But I am really surprised at 
>>> the rapid drop, which prompts this question.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Getting rid of page 1 of 1 adjustable?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Matthew,

 

If I understand you correctly you are saying that instead of having apps on 
multiple home screens, you have all of your apps in folders and all of them are 
located on the first home screen. I can only say that the Page 1 of 1 
adjustable may not have been there before in this case, it has always been 
there if you had at least 2 home screens and now it is there because there is a 
page to the left of the first home screen which is the Spotlight search page. 
If you flick down when you are on where it says “Page 1 of 1” you will get to 
that page and you can, of course, still get to Spotlight search by doing a 
3-finger swipe down after touching any app or folder on your home page.

You can’t turn Spotlight off although I guess you could turn off all the apps 
and SIRI suggestions and see if that would get rid of the Spotlight page, but 
of course I think the usefulness of Spotlight Search far outweighs having the 
“Pag 1 of 1” showing up, it’s pretty easy to just touch the dock area above the 
home key if you want to get there quickly or to quickly swipe twice from the 
last folder to skip over that Page 1 of 1 conmtrol.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Matthew Bullis
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting rid of page 1 of 1 adjustable?

 

Hello, so since upgrading to IOS9, I've once again moved the new or unused apps 
into folders so that I have a home screen of just folders. I now find that 
there's a page 1 of 1 adjustable before the dock. It wasn't there before when I 
had the previous version. Is this because of the spotlight search, or is there 
another way to move from the last folder on the screen to the dock when 
flicking, like before?

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

[David Justice]

I am writing this message on a fifth gen iPod Touch running iOS 9.0.1 or 9.01 
(whichever) using an Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard.  I hav3en't used this 
particular iPod Touch very much, and this keyboard has been paired with a 
number of devices.  So, I had to pair the keyboard before trying it out with 
this Touch and the latest iOS. 

one thing I noticed was that when I clicked on reply for this message VoiceOver 
said Quick Nav off.  However I was unable to move through the text area.  So, I 
pressed the right and left arrow keys.  my intent was to turn the Quick nav on 
and then back off.  As it happened, though, my first press of the two keys 
turned the Quick Nav off.  So, when I first entered the text area and VoiceOver 
told me Quick nav was off, it was actually still on. 

Don't know if this helps any.  But, as I said, this message is being entered 
using the latest iOS and an Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard.  Also, I tried 
the same combo within notes and had no particular problems.  


  David Justice :) 


> On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Did it work OK in IOS 9 before you upgraded to 01? People have suggested that 
> forgetting the device and then repairing it should help.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
>> control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
>> But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
>> Quick Nav is off.
>> This is iOS 9.0.1.
>> Any ideas?
>> Richard
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Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I've never known anything manage that, there is only one highlighted area of 
selection.
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!


I don't think this is currently possible without the use of a hardware keyboard.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>
> Can I select every other word in a line?
> Thanks!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!
>
> hi Gerry,
>
> This is what you do:
>
> firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
> rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit 
> selection. you will hear instructions this point. At this time, you select 
> what you want to edit by and you do this by flicking 
> one finger down and you will see characters lines et cetera. You then just 
> start editing. to do this you then swipe left or right 
> right selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after that, 
> I cannot describe it properly but you can press 
> delete key on what you have selected that should get you started and do 
> experiment because you can't do anything dangerous, as 
> long as you don't mind if you do the wrong thing!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Carol P
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>
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:
>
> I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
> select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If 
> you put it online selection and the only thing that you have available to use 
> is words how do you make the line selection work? 
> Thank you. Jerry Mader
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
>
> I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
> article to another list. Worked like a charm.
>
> On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, it's 
> well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the 
> bugs so far mentioned ...
>
> I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded the 
> selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by 
> flicking down.  How I wish I'd had a clue on that one!  
>
> Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!
>
> Carol P
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Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

[Chris Smart]

hmm not here it isn't.
I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke
again.
Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard
again.
But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.
I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then
fix this issue.
Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks
it. Reboot phone to fix.
But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused
things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my
keyboard again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.


At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
what does every one like about
the new update.I think the blue tooth key board ishue is fixed.
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Re: manually blocking callers

[Dan Rathburn]

Hi,

You might try this.  Select the Contacts tab in the phone app then double 
tap on Add.  Create a contact using the phone number you want to block and 
add it to your contact list.  Open the new entry from the Contacts tab and 
swipe down until you hear Block this Caller and double tap it.


HTH,

Dan



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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:06 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: manually blocking callers

thanks, I know how to block them once they called but there is someone I 
do not want to hear from any longer so thought I could block them from the 
get go.



On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Rob  wrote:

I don't see a way to enter a number on the block calls screens in the 
phone settings.  But here is how to do it if you received a call from the 
number you want to block.

Go to Recents and find the number in the list of recent calls.
Swipe right to "More Information".
Double tap on "More Information".
Go toward the bottom of the screen (or keep swiping right) until you 
reach "Block Calls".

Double tap on "Block Calls".
I did not go any further to actually block a number.  But I expect you 
probably have to confirm that you really want to block the number.

Rob Armstrong
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Behalf Of Kerri G

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Subject: manually blocking callers

hi, folks, how do I enter a number into the blocked list manually or is 
that possible? It seems to me I’ve done it but think I’m probably going 
senile lol. thanks for any help and have a great day.



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Re: Minor Bugs I have noticed in IoS 9

[Wayne Merritt]

I've reported the second bug to Apple Accessibility and would
encourage others experiencing the same to report it too. The focus
issues have happened to me in Tweetings, TweetList 4, and in the
Settings app. Granted, the first two apps may have been refreshing but
Settings does not refresh. Both times when I reported it, I got a
positive response back saying that they appreciated me letting them
know and have passed my information onto the respective people. Though
I love going through tweets in my twitter apps, these bad focus issues
have driven me away from Twitter for a little while until they are
fixed. Nothing's more annoying than being on tweet 300, retweeting or
favoriting something, and being put back at the top of the list and
having to make my way down to where I stopped. I have also had it
happen when going back to a twitter app from another app.

Wayne

On 9/21/15, Shai  wrote:
> Hi,
> Another minor bug I have noticed here is that when one moves an app
> using the touch screen, the app just moved seems to stay in the same
> place even though VoiceOver announces that it is moving.  In order to
> get the app in the right place with VoiceOver one has to move the app
> again and then explore the screen to see that it refreshed itself to
> the right place where one wanted it. This worked fine in IOS8 but I am
> not sure if there is now a workaround or I am using the right steps at
> this point.
>
>
> On 9/21/15, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> After using IOS 9 for a few days here are a couple of bugs I have noticed
>> that I have yet to see mentioned. If anyone has figured out any work
>> around
>> please let us know.
>>
>> 1. Heading Navigation is gone in some apps
>> For example if you use grub hub the ability to quickly flick from food
>> headings like salads to pizza slices is gone, you have to flick through
>> every menu item which is a giant pain as some menus have hundreds of
>> items.
>> Also in Newsify there used to be dates for your feeds when viewing
>> folders
>> and you could quickly flick from day to day using heading navigation, the
>> dates seem to be completely gone and you just have a very long list of
>> articles. Since neither grub hub nor Newsify have released an IOS 9
>> update
>> not sure if this is an Apple error or app specific.
>>
>> 2. VO loses focus in long lists.
>>
>> For example in Newsify if you have been flicking through articles and you
>> go
>> in to read an article when going back to your article list instead of
>> being
>> where you have flicked down to you are taken back to the very top of the
>> list. I have also noticed this same behavior in Downcast if you are in a
>> long list of podcasts and you go to listen to a podcast instead of being
>> taken back to where you were in the list you are taken to the top of the
>> list. Again not a deal breaker but quite frustrating, and pretty sure
>> this
>> is yet another Apple issue.
>>
>> I knew what I was getting in to when installing IOS 9, and for me it was
>> worth it as Siri and dictation did not work half the time for me in IOS 8
>> ,
>> and I thought it was a damaged home button but IOS 9 seems to have fixed
>> that issue for me. Not even two factory resets in IOS 8 nor the genius
>> bar
>> could fix that issue, so nice that IOS 9 has.
>>
>> But, the fact that Apple promoted IOS 9 as a big release that was focused
>> on
>> quality control, they really did once again drop the ball in a lot of
>> areas
>> for VoiceOVer users, and yes, i do realize that VoiceOVer users are a
>> very
>> very small percentage of iPhone users, and I guess we are just going to
>> have
>> to get used to having serious to minor bugs in all IOS releases.
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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Chris Smart]

Cloud storage is a generic term so yes, Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud and
many other products are cloud storage.
At 11:36 AM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
Good morning, does cloud storage
include dropbox?  I use dropbox to
import  files to Voice Dream Reader and it works
flawlessly.
Have a good one:
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Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

That would be a great way of cleaning up osme of Siri grosser 
mispronunciations.  Set to select by word,  flick down for a bunch of 
words, then hit a delete button and see if it all goes. This would be 
particular good using a bt keyboard of course.  But 
shift+arrows used to do a good job of selection once.
- Original Message - 
From: "'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!


I can't think what you'd want to do that for.  I think you'd have to select by 
word, delete that word, or whatever you wanted to do, 
then continue.

Do try it out!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fazil
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:54 AM
  Subject: RE: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!


  Can I select every other word in a line?

  Thanks!



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!



  hi Gerry,

  This is what you do:



  firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit 
selection. you will hear instructions this point. At this time, you select what 
you want to edit by and you do this by flicking one 
finger down and you will see characters lines et cetera. You then just start 
editing. to do this you then swipe left or right right 
selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after that, I cannot 
describe it properly but you can press delete key on 
what you have selected that should get you started and do experiment because 
you can't do anything dangerous, as long as you don't 
mind if you do the wrong thing!

  Hope this helps.



  Carol P

  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille


  On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:

  I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If 
you put it online selection and the only thing that you have available to use 
is words how do you make the line selection work? 
Thank you. Jerry Mader

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
article to another list. Worked like a charm.


On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, 
it's well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the 
bugs so far mentioned ...



  I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded 
the selection by words or lines (instead of letters) 
by flicking down.  How I wish I'd had a clue on that one!  



  Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!



  Carol P



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RE: Battery drain since recent update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This is where your Reset Network Settings comes in and can really help. I'm not 
saying it will definitely help, but I am definitely saying it will not hurt and 
there is a good chance it may help.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery drain since recent update

I already checked Bluetooth and display brightness, since they were in fact 
turned on after the big upgrade. But they did not get turned on or changed by 
this little upgrade this afternoon. The only thing that may have changed was 
that mail was sent to "push". I don't remember doing that, but I may have a 
long time ago and just forgotten. I changed it to fetch on a schedule of every 
half hour. But just in the few minutes since I sent my first message on this 
topic, I have lost five more percent. Interestingly, mail and Siri are the two 
big culprits according to the battery statistics in settings. And I haven't 
used Siri hardly at all. I have used dictation, and that may be where the Siri 
stuff is coming from. Maybe I suddenly have a revisitation of the microphone 
not turning off bug. Hard to know.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'd check the settings. Sometimes after a major upgrade, things like 
> bluetooth are turned on. I noticed bluetooth was turned on on my iPhone 5, 
> which surprised me, since I don't think I'd ever use a bluetooth device on 
> that phone. Now it could be that I had it on before the upgrade, but I'd go 
> ahead and check that and some other settings, like your display brightness.
> 
>> On 09/23/2015 10:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> I am curious if anyone has noticed as sharp increase in battery drain since 
>> upgrading to 9.01. I started out with 100% when I did the update. That was 
>> sometime around noon, or shortly after somebody posted about it to this 
>> list. It is now 8 o'clock my time, I have certainly not been using the phone 
>> heavily, and I am already down to 45%. I have not change anything in terms 
>> of apps that are on our screen brightness at Cetera it could be that my 
>> battery gauge is just messed up, and long about 20%, it will decide to sit 
>> there for an hour or so and not change. But I am really surprised at the 
>> rapid drop, which prompts this question.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

[Richard Turner]

This is truly an off the wall suggestion, but try toggling the onscreen 
keyboard so it is visible then type and see what happens.

 

That was part of the crazy sequence that got my AmazonBasics keyboard back to 
working.

Makes no sense, but I’m not going to question it since it seemed to work in my 
case.

 

This has got to be one of the more random bugs Apple has come up with.

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the 
new update to ios901?)

 

hmm not here it isn't.

I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.

Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.

But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.

I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then fix 
this issue.
Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks it. 
Reboot phone to fix.
But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused things to 
break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard again, 
not re-pairing, not rebooting.




At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:



what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth key board 
ishue is fixed.

```Sent from my iPad

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Re: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I was using my 4S with 9.1 today and had threading on.  (I don't veryh often 
do this as I really just prefer to read and deal with ...)


When I reached the thread, I had to double tap on the first message to be 
read.  At that point I learned how many messages there were in the thread. 
On examining the screen, somewhere near the top I could see Thread and then 
3 of 5, or whatever it was.  Not quite what we'd like to see, but maybe 
that's always how it worked.  Are those of you expecting to see the number 
of messages in the thread before you double tap on it?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread


It appears from what was said by the person who is running iOS 9.1 Beta that 
eventually this will be fixed. Remember that the official 9.0.1 release is 
not the same as the 9.1 Beta and typically the first major update where 
instead of 9.0.x it goes to 9.1.x does not come out until November. From 
what you can read and hear online it sounds like the 9.1 release will be 
somewhat tied to the availability of the new iPad Pro which will be some 
time in November. Until then or until that feature is fixed in one of the 
9.0.x updates you are out of luck.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Kevin Gibbs

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:29 PM
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Subject: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

I just installed iOS 9.01.I still have the same problem. When you have 
a multiple message thread, it merely says, "multiple items."   It used to 
say the exact number of messages in the thread. Is there anyway to get this 
behavior back?


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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Now this would be good. Whether you could then turn off bluetooth so that what 
you use on the cabled keyboard is saved by lack of 
bluetooth useage?
Does this work on all devices with a lightening port?
Of course, it could be a rechargeable keyboard and not use power via the lead 
at all, just pass data.

Which just leaves:  what is it, where from and how much, so more of us can 
search for one.

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Traci Duncan" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:17 PM
Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard


Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, instead 
of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really 
cool idea.  I liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, 
plus none of the bluetooth keyboard issues.

The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail button.  
In addition to media & volume keys.

What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for 
you?  I cannot remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.

It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait 
& tuck the cord away.
  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it rather 
loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv 
or movies.

So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price is 
worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long 
documents.  I am going to practice with it a bit more to remind myself of 
navigation commands.  Five years ago, when we got our 
first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it 
has just been too long, and it isn’t my thing anymore.

In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the 
perfect solution for someone else.

Take care,
Traci

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Re: continuous re-booting up to 9.01

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Max,

Try restarting the phone. If that doesn't help, press the Home and Power 
buttons together for about 10 seconds to force it to reset.

HTH,
Anna



> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I decided to update my wife’s iPhone 5 from 8.41 or what ever the latest 8 
> version was. I am told the phone updated successfully. When I go through the 
> setup process the phone re-boots I am in a continuous loop. I thought I would 
> update this phone before our iPad and my iPhone6 as the iPhone 5 is used 
> least.
> Hope somebody can help.
> Thanks as always.
> Max.
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RE: Settings always in app switcher

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jen and Andy,

 

While it seems that so far the two of you are the only ones experiencing this, 
it really is not doing any harm if Settings is in the app switcher and I 
wouldn’t loose any sleep over it. It’s not like it would slow down your phone 
or put a drain on your battery.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

 

Allen,

 

I have done the same thing, and no matter what I do to turn the phone 
completely off, it comes back once the phone has been restarted. I have to 
constantly go back into the app switcher and close settings.

 

Jenn

 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

 

Andy, 

 

Have you tried going into app switcher, placing focus on the settings item, and 
doing a three finger swipe up to close it? 

 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Andy Baracco  > wrote:

I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go into the 
app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not launched it. i 
close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into the app switcher to 
close whatever app I am using, Settings is there again. Is this normal, and if 
not, what can I do to stop this?

 

Andy

I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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RE: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program any 
keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the function 
key to date.
Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.

Richard


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Lisa Belville
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?

I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.

Lisa

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- Original Message - 
From: "Traci Duncan" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard


Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
the bluetooth keyboard issues.

The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
button.  In addition to media & volume keys.

What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.

It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
away.
  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.

So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
thing anymore.

In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
someone else.

Take care,
Traci

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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Traci]

It is the Belkin lightning keyboard with stand.  The stand doubles as a handle 
for the keyboard.  There is cord storage build-in the rear.  The price was $54 
plus tax.  This same keyboard was $69 on Apple's store I believe.

The other model that I was debating between was the Kinsington.  It did not 
have a stand or media keys, & it was $44.

Both keyboards get good reviews.  They are selling these keyboards mostly for 
school testing purposes.  Lol, the keys are pry-off resistant for kids.  Maybe 
that explains the noisy nature of the keys.

One more thing to point out, the media keys are suppose to work with youTube as 
well.  Pause/play etc.

HTH,
Traci
PS. Typed this on the keyboard. ;)  

Sent from my Mini

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
> any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
> function key to date.
> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
> 
> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
> but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
> stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Traci Duncan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
> Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
> liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
> the bluetooth keyboard issues.
> 
> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
> 
> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
> keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
> remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
> 
> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
> away.
>  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
> rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
> 
> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
> thing anymore.
> 
> In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
> didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
> someone else.
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
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Re: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Mary, the book is called iPhone User manual, iOS 9, and is by Apple Inc.
Jonathan Mosen
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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 25/09/2015, at 7:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Someone suggested that, since I had been unable to find a recently updated 
> set of available Bluetooth commands for use with iPads, I should try looking 
> in iBooks for the iOS nine manual. I just did a search for iOS nine, and was 
> surprised to find only two items, both of which cost money, neither of which 
> was the sought after manual. What am I doing wrong question and where can I 
> find Bluetooth keyboard commands that are usable in iOS nine? 
> Mary
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Hi.
I've been forwarding/reporting everything to that address as
well.
At 01:44 PM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris 
Please report any problems like this with your bluetooth keyboard to
accessibil...@apple.com.
It's really important that as many people report it as possible in the
hope that Apple might actually listen to us, take the problems seriously,
and actually do something about fixing it. 
Eleanor 
Sent from my iPad
On 24 Sep 2015, at 18:34, Chris Smart

wrote:
Shoot. Forget that. It's not
fixed, although I was able to use my keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
Chris
 
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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Lisa Belville]

Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?

I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.


Lisa

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stops.  On my desk I have a work station...


- Original Message - 
From: "Traci Duncan" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard


Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
the bluetooth keyboard issues.


The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
button.  In addition to media & volume keys.


What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.


It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
away.
 Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.


So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
thing anymore.


In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
someone else.


Take care,
Traci

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Re: Battery drain since recent update

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, sieghard. Since I am about to get my upgraded 6S, I probably won't mess 
with the network settings here. Interestingly, I also upgraded my iPad mini. 
And it is not experiencing the battery drain. Also, it  did stick around at 25% 
for a very long time this morning. So it could be that the gauge is just out of 
calibration.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This is where your Reset Network Settings comes in and can really help. I'm 
> not saying it will definitely help, but I am definitely saying it will not 
> hurt and there is a good chance it may help.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery drain since recent update
> 
> I already checked Bluetooth and display brightness, since they were in fact 
> turned on after the big upgrade. But they did not get turned on or changed by 
> this little upgrade this afternoon. The only thing that may have changed was 
> that mail was sent to "push". I don't remember doing that, but I may have a 
> long time ago and just forgotten. I changed it to fetch on a schedule of 
> every half hour. But just in the few minutes since I sent my first message on 
> this topic, I have lost five more percent. Interestingly, mail and Siri are 
> the two big culprits according to the battery statistics in settings. And I 
> haven't used Siri hardly at all. I have used dictation, and that may be where 
> the Siri stuff is coming from. Maybe I suddenly have a revisitation of the 
> microphone not turning off bug. Hard to know.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd check the settings. Sometimes after a major upgrade, things like 
>> bluetooth are turned on. I noticed bluetooth was turned on on my iPhone 5, 
>> which surprised me, since I don't think I'd ever use a bluetooth device on 
>> that phone. Now it could be that I had it on before the upgrade, but I'd go 
>> ahead and check that and some other settings, like your display brightness.
>> 
>>> On 09/23/2015 10:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> I am curious if anyone has noticed as sharp increase in battery drain since 
>>> upgrading to 9.01. I started out with 100% when I did the update. That was 
>>> sometime around noon, or shortly after somebody posted about it to this 
>>> list. It is now 8 o'clock my time, I have certainly not been using the 
>>> phone heavily, and I am already down to 45%. I have not change anything in 
>>> terms of apps that are on our screen brightness at Cetera it could be that 
>>> my battery gauge is just messed up, and long about 20%, it will decide to 
>>> sit there for an hour or so and not change. But I am really surprised at 
>>> the rapid drop, which prompts this question.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Some odd behavior in Voice Dream Reader.

[Gmail]

When playing an mp3 (I haven't tested to see if this happens with other file 
types yet) and I create a bookmark, instead  of having to press the bookmark 
button like I normally would to see The bookmarks I've created, I can just see 
them on the screen. It's as if the bookmarks screen has opened inside the 
player screen. I can see the buttons for highlights and chapters as well, and I 
can double-tap on any bookmark to jump to it. I don't see a way of closing the 
bookmarks screen that's come up inside the player screen. The bookmarks still 
show on screen, even though I've jumped to one. There is no button in the top 
left-hand corner labeled reader back button. I hope this is making sense. Can 
anyone confirm this behavior? According to my iPhone, I am on iOS 8.4. I'm 
using a 4S.


Thanks,
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

[Chris Smart]

Shoot. Forget that. It's not fixed, although I was able to use my
keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
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RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I did forget to mention that anybody who wants it now has access to beta 
software via the Apple Public Beta program. You can get more information at 
http://beta.apple.com

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:32 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

 For the record, I am only dealing with publicly released software. I have 
absolutely no access to beta versions. Therefore, I can't possibly be violating 
any restriction on this list about undiscussable features.This is simply a 
behavior that used to work in iOS 8. It doesn't work now. That's my only 
comment. I simply wondered if anyone else noticed it and if anyone has any idea 
about it. 

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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy, that is interesting about your keyboard. Where did you get it and 
what model is it? I have a desktop keyboard that I just love, and it is very 
clicky. Most people who are younger than say 50 I'm sure would hate it. But it 
brings back memories, and it has a great tactile feel.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I liked 
> the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of the 
> bluetooth keyboard issues.
> 
> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
> 
> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
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> the commands I may be missing with no function key.
> 
> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
> away.
>  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it rather 
> loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
> 
> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my thing 
> anymore.
> 
> In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
> didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
> someone else.
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
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RE: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

[Richard Turner]

Did you put a space between iOS and 9?
I found lots, including the Apple provided free guides, but I haven't found a 
list in there that is of any use.
I have the book, iOS Access for All, I will look in there, but it was written 
for iOS 8 I think, so the new ones won't be there anyway.

I'm surprised someone hasn't put out a current list.

Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

Someone suggested that, since I had been unable to find a recently updated set 
of available Bluetooth commands for use with iPads, I should try looking in 
iBooks for the iOS nine manual. I just did a search for iOS nine, and was 
surprised to find only two items, both of which cost money, neither of which 
was the sought after manual. What am I doing wrong question and where can I 
find Bluetooth keyboard commands that are usable in iOS nine? 
Mary

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Re: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

[Mary Otten]

No, richard. I didn't put a space between iOS nine. I guess that's why I only 
got two listings. It never occurred to me that there should be a space. I 
suppose that's what I get for reading with speech and not checking.
Mary
PS I have not found a set of Bluetooth commands for iOS 8. If any were added  
that are new, I would be OK with starting there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you put a space between iOS and 9?
> I found lots, including the Apple provided free guides, but I haven't found a 
> list in there that is of any use.
> I have the book, iOS Access for All, I will look in there, but it was written 
> for iOS 8 I think, so the new ones won't be there anyway.
> 
> I'm surprised someone hasn't put out a current list.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mary Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad
> 
> Someone suggested that, since I had been unable to find a recently updated 
> set of available Bluetooth commands for use with iPads, I should try looking 
> in iBooks for the iOS nine manual. I just did a search for iOS nine, and was 
> surprised to find only two items, both of which cost money, neither of which 
> was the sought after manual. What am I doing wrong question and where can I 
> find Bluetooth keyboard commands that are usable in iOS nine? 
> Mary
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Voice dream Reader and Moving books from iBooks to iCloud drive or dopbox

[Tim Emmons]

Ok guys, I am stumped, I know there is a possibility of this but I don’t know 
how. I’ve done it, once. And once was all a while back. I want to move a couple 
books from my iBooks to say, either Dropbox or iCloud Drive in order to use 
them with Voice Dream reader. These are unprotected EPub so I know they would 
work, but I forget how to do the move. Any idea? Thanks and any help here would 
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RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It appears from what was said by the person who is running iOS 9.1 Beta that 
eventually this will be fixed. Remember that the official 9.0.1 release is not 
the same as the 9.1 Beta and typically the first major update where instead of 
9.0.x it goes to 9.1.x does not come out until November. From what you can read 
and hear online it sounds like the 9.1 release will be somewhat tied to the 
availability of the new iPad Pro which will be some time in November. Until 
then or until that feature is fixed in one of the 9.0.x updates you are out of 
luck.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

 I just installed iOS 9.01.I still have the same problem. When you have a 
multiple message thread, it merely says, "multiple items."   It used to say the 
exact number of messages in the thread. Is there anyway to get this behavior 
back? 

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Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Sieghard.  I knew there was something different about the 6, having 
seen one a couple of times, but couldn't recall what it was.  Now I know, it's 
the power button.

Anyway, thanks for your various comments; I do appreciate all your input.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:42 PM
  Subject: RE: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS


  Carol,

   

  The phones are usually sufficiently charged to get going at least to where 
it’s set up and where you can check the battery with Voiceover, but you can 
always just plug it in when it arrives which, of course, will also turn it on 
automatically and since there is a short double vibrate when the phone is 
plugged in, it’s not a bad idea.

   

  It has exactly the same buttons as all iPhones, e.g. volume up/down on the 
left side, a mute switch above the volume up button, the home button and the 
power button. Only difference is that the power button is no longer on the top 
right of the phone, but it is now on the top right side across from the volume 
buttons. SIM tray is still on the right side where it has always been and the 
headphone jack is at the bottom to the left of the Lightning port, if you are 
coming from a 4S this will be different since the 4S had the headphone jack on 
the top.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

   

  Only seen the 6 a couple of times ...

   

  There was no mention of a sim when I ordered and we don't usually find that 
to be the case here in the UK.  I have ordered one locally.

   

  Carol P

   

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From: John Diakogeorgiou 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:43 AM

Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

 

It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. 
Also, the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  Hi all,

   

  Three questions, if I may:

   

  1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take 
before use?

  2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the 
phone bit till later?

  and

  3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

   

  Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, 
if anyone knows ...

   

  Carol P

   

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Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, instead 
of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I liked the 
thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of the bluetooth 
keyboard issues.

The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail button.  
In addition to media & volume keys.

What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot remember 
the commands I may be missing with no function key.

It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
away.
  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it rather 
loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.

So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price is 
worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my thing 
anymore.

In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
someone else.

Take care,
Traci

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Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

[Mary Otten]

Someone suggested that, since I had been unable to find a recently updated set 
of available Bluetooth commands for use with iPads, I should try looking in 
iBooks for the iOS nine manual. I just did a search for iOS nine, and was 
surprised to find only two items, both of which cost money, neither of which 
was the sought after manual. What am I doing wrong question and where can I 
find Bluetooth keyboard commands that are usable in iOS nine? 
Mary

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RE: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Carol,

 

The phones are usually sufficiently charged to get going at least to where it’s 
set up and where you can check the battery with Voiceover, but you can always 
just plug it in when it arrives which, of course, will also turn it on 
automatically and since there is a short double vibrate when the phone is 
plugged in, it’s not a bad idea.

 

It has exactly the same buttons as all iPhones, e.g. volume up/down on the left 
side, a mute switch above the volume up button, the home button and the power 
button. Only difference is that the power button is no longer on the top right 
of the phone, but it is now on the top right side across from the volume 
buttons. SIM tray is still on the right side where it has always been and the 
headphone jack is at the bottom to the left of the Lightning port, if you are 
coming from a 4S this will be different since the 4S had the headphone jack on 
the top.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

 

Only seen the 6 a couple of times ...

 

There was no mention of a sim when I ordered and we don't usually find that to 
be the case here in the UK.  I have ordered one locally.

 

Carol P

 

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From: John Diakogeorgiou   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:43 AM

Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

 

It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. Also, 
the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 ' via VIPhone 
 > wrote:

Hi all,

 

Three questions, if I may:

 

1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before use?

2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the phone 
bit till later?

and

3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

 

Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
anyone knows ...

 

Carol P

 

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite a 
messy loop where things can and do go wrong.

Carol P

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  Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
  Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the 
new update to ios901?)


  hmm not here it isn't.

  I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.

  Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.

  But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.

  I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then fix 
this issue.
  Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks it. 
Reboot phone to fix.
  But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused things 
to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard again, 
not re-pairing, not rebooting.




  At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:

what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth key 
board ishue is fixed.

```Sent from my iPad

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Re: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired

[Amy Gordon]

didn't know there were ios flash drives. Can they be used with Iphone
and what can u put on them?

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> as any one used any of these?
>
> http://www.wired.com/2015/04/ios-flash-drives/
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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Mary Otten]

I realized just after I sent that question about the keys that it was really 
stupid. Because of the lightning cable, it has to be Apple. Oh well. I can't 
even write it off to not having had coffee.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary, if it's a Lightning connector keyboard I'm sure these keys will behave 
> properly since Apple is the only company I know of that uses the Lightning 
> port.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> Are the keys on this keyboard programmed such that they will do the Mac 
> things like command control and option, rather than the windows things? I 
> know that if you have certain windows keyboards and connect them to a Mac, 
> those keys don't work right.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
>> any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
>> function key to date.
>> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>> 
>> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
>> 
>> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
>> but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
>> 
>> Lisa
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
>> stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Traci Duncan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
>> Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
>> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
>> liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
>> the bluetooth keyboard issues.
>> 
>> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
>> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
>> 
>> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
>> keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
>> remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
>> 
>> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
>> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
>> away.
>> Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
>> rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
>> 
>> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
>> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
>> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
>> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
>> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
>> thing anymore.
>> 
>> In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
>> didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
>> someone else.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Traci
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RE: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

I just did a search on Amazon and Logitech has one as well.  It doesn't mention 
a stand.  The price on that one is $47.95.
Logitech Wired Keyboard for iPad with Lightning Connector (920-006341)
4.6 out of 5 stars   7 Reviews

It looks like the full info on the Belkin is:
Belkin Apple MFi Certified Wired Tablet Keyboard with Stand and Lightning 
Connector for iPad Pro, iPad 4th Gen, iPad Air (All Versions), iPad mini (All 
Versions), Designed for School and Classroom  4.0 out of 5 stars   64 
reviews  $54.99

These might be a good option for anyone taking notes on a regular basis.  Sure 
looks like a way to avoid the Bluetooth issues.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Traci
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

It is the Belkin lightning keyboard with stand.  The stand doubles as a handle 
for the keyboard.  There is cord storage build-in the rear.  The price was $54 
plus tax.  This same keyboard was $69 on Apple's store I believe.

The other model that I was debating between was the Kinsington.  It did not 
have a stand or media keys, & it was $44.

Both keyboards get good reviews.  They are selling these keyboards mostly for 
school testing purposes.  Lol, the keys are pry-off resistant for kids.  Maybe 
that explains the noisy nature of the keys.

One more thing to point out, the media keys are suppose to work with youTube as 
well.  Pause/play etc.

HTH,
Traci
PS. Typed this on the keyboard. ;)  

Sent from my Mini

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
> any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
> function key to date.
> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
> 
> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
> but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
> stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Traci Duncan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
> Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
> liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
> the bluetooth keyboard issues.
> 
> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
> 
> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
> keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
> remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
> 
> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
> away.
>  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
> rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
> 
> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
> thing anymore.
> 
> In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
> didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
> someone else.
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
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Re: Battery drain since recent update

[Andrew Lamanche]

Sieghart,

If you reset network settings in this way, does it mess up your cellular 
carrier settings?  Or does the cellular network automatically send you the 
settings necessary for your cellular connection?

Many thanks for your valuable tips.

Andrew
> On 24 Sep 2015, at 21:42, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> There is not much to mess with, all you do is go to Settings > General > 
> Reset, double tap on Reset Network Settings and confirm. Your phone will 
> reboot, after you unlock/enter your passcode you simply go back to Settings > 
> WiFi, connect to your WiFi (enter your password) and it's done.
> I find it's amazing how many problems this can fix.
> A while back my wife on her iPhone 6 often had the audio cut in and out when 
> she was on a phone call. It was her side of the call which was very crackly 
> and sometimes cutting out completely. I did a Reset Network Settings and it's 
> been perfect since.
> 
> You can, of course, calibrate the battery indicator, just use your iPhone 
> until it turns off by itself once the battery is totally run down. Then plug 
> it in and charge it for a good long time, best over night. Then do this over 
> one more time, use it until the battery goes dead and charge it one more time.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery drain since recent update
> 
> Thanks, sieghard. Since I am about to get my upgraded 6S, I probably won't 
> mess with the network settings here. Interestingly, I also upgraded my iPad 
> mini. And it is not experiencing the battery drain. Also, it  did stick 
> around at 25% for a very long time this morning. So it could be that the 
> gauge is just out of calibration.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> This is where your Reset Network Settings comes in and can really help. I'm 
>> not saying it will definitely help, but I am definitely saying it will not 
>> hurt and there is a good chance it may help.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery drain since recent update
>> 
>> I already checked Bluetooth and display brightness, since they were in fact 
>> turned on after the big upgrade. But they did not get turned on or changed 
>> by this little upgrade this afternoon. The only thing that may have changed 
>> was that mail was sent to "push". I don't remember doing that, but I may 
>> have a long time ago and just forgotten. I changed it to fetch on a schedule 
>> of every half hour. But just in the few minutes since I sent my first 
>> message on this topic, I have lost five more percent. Interestingly, mail 
>> and Siri are the two big culprits according to the battery statistics in 
>> settings. And I haven't used Siri hardly at all. I have used dictation, and 
>> that may be where the Siri stuff is coming from. Maybe I suddenly have a 
>> revisitation of the microphone not turning off bug. Hard to know.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd check the settings. Sometimes after a major upgrade, things like 
>>> bluetooth are turned on. I noticed bluetooth was turned on on my iPhone 5, 
>>> which surprised me, since I don't think I'd ever use a bluetooth device on 
>>> that phone. Now it could be that I had it on before the upgrade, but I'd go 
>>> ahead and check that and some other settings, like your display brightness.
>>> 
 On 09/23/2015 10:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
 I am curious if anyone has noticed as sharp increase in battery drain 
 since upgrading to 9.01. I started out with 100% when I did the update. 
 That was sometime around noon, or shortly after somebody posted about it 
 to this list. It is now 8 o'clock my time, I have certainly not been using 
 the phone heavily, and I am already down to 45%. I have not change 
 anything in terms of apps that are on our screen brightness at Cetera it 
 could be that my battery gauge is just messed up, and long about 20%, it 
 will decide to sit there for an hour or so and not change. But I am really 
 surprised at the rapid drop, which prompts this question.
 Mary
 
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

[Alex Hall]

What Apple Accessibility told me was to toggle the screen curtain, as odd a 
suggestion at it sounds. If that doesn't help, lock then unlock the phone.
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 14:09, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite a 
> messy loop where things can and do go wrong.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris Smart 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the 
>> new update to ios901?)
>> 
>> hmm not here it isn't.
>> 
>> I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
>> problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.
>> 
>> Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.
>> 
>> But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.
>> 
>> I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then 
>> fix this issue.
>> Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks it. 
>> Reboot phone to fix.
>> But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused things 
>> to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard 
>> again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
>>> what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth key 
>>> board ishue is fixed.
>>> 
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Re: continuous re-booting up to 9.01

[Agent086b]

Thank you have already tried all that with no luck.
Max.

> On 25 Sep 2015, at 3:15 am, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Max,
> 
> Try restarting the phone. If that doesn't help, press the Home and Power 
> buttons together for about 10 seconds to force it to reset.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I decided to update my wife’s iPhone 5 from 8.41 or what ever the latest 8 
>> version was. I am told the phone updated successfully. When I go through the 
>> setup process the phone re-boots I am in a continuous loop. I thought I 
>> would update this phone before our iPad and my iPhone6 as the iPhone 5 is 
>> used least.
>> Hope somebody can help.
>> Thanks as always.
>> Max.
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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

:) Hi guys,

Here is the link from Amazon.  BTW, it is also Apple certified.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Certified-Lightning-Connector-Classroom/dp/B00M4L70E2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1443131860=8-2=belkin+wired+keyboard
 


If you search for lightning keyboards, a few different options come up.  Like I 
said, the Kensington tempted me for a bit.  It was $10 cheeper with no extra 
keys or stand.

Something I can’t find on the keyboard is an escape key.  Is this unusual?

Oh & yes, it should work with all lightning cable devices.  It isn’t 
rechargeable either.

I have played around with it more today, & although, it is a cool idea, I think 
I’ll return mine.  :)

If anyone decides to order one, report back on your thoughts.  It’s nice to get 
a variety of feedback.

BTW, to give you a quick key layout.  The very bottom row goes, home, control, 
option, command, spacebar, command, option, then the arrow keys.  The bonus 
keys are on the top row.  A grouping of 4 on the far left, & another grouping 
of 4 on the far right.  They go as follows: previous, play/pause, next, lock, 
mail, mute, vol-down, vol-up.

HTH,
Traci

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I realized just after I sent that question about the keys that it was really 
> stupid. Because of the lightning cable, it has to be Apple. Oh well. I can't 
> even write it off to not having had coffee.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, if it's a Lightning connector keyboard I'm sure these keys will behave 
>> properly since Apple is the only company I know of that uses the Lightning 
>> port.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>> 
>> Are the keys on this keyboard programmed such that they will do the Mac 
>> things like command control and option, rather than the windows things? I 
>> know that if you have certain windows keyboards and connect them to a Mac, 
>> those keys don't work right.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
>>> any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
>>> function key to date.
>>> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Lisa Belville
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>>> 
>>> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
>>> 
>>> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
>>> but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
>>> 
>>> Lisa
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
>>> stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Traci Duncan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
>>> Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
>>> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
>>> liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
>>> the bluetooth keyboard issues.
>>> 
>>> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
>>> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
>>> 
>>> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an 
>>> external 
>>> keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
>>> remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
>>> 
>>> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
>>> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
>>> away.
>>> Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
>>> rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
>>> 
>>> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
>>> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
>>> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
>>> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
>>> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it 

Re: Up to date Bluetooth keyboard commands for iOS

[gs]

https://help.apple.com/iphone/9/
On Sep 23, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

No, I have not tried the iOS nine manual in iBooks. I guess I will. I think I 
read somewhere on some list that it's got a lot more graphics in it. That can't 
be good. But it can't hurt to try. If anybody find something on the web, it 
would be great.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried getting the iOS 9 manual thrugh ibooks?
> I can't find anything on the web either.
> Richarde
> 
> 
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> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Up to date Bluetooth keyboard commands for iOS
> 
> I am looking for a complete list of the Bluetooth keyboard commands available 
> in iOS nine. Ideally, this would include all those inaccessible commands that 
> were newly introduced. But, since that is not so likely, how about a place to 
> find the general commands available for the OS? The ones I have seen online 
> or several years old.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Up to date Bluetooth keyboard commands for iOS

[Mary Otten]

No, I didn't get anything useful from that page either. There was a button to 
show the table of contents. But they weren't links. And they didn't seem useful 
in any case, even had had they been  links. 
Mary

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't get any information from that page.
> It seems to be very graphics oriented or something.
> Anyone found anything about keyboard commands?
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> gs
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Up to date Bluetooth keyboard commands for iOS
> 
> https://help.apple.com/iphone/9/
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> No, I have not tried the iOS nine manual in iBooks. I guess I will. I think I 
> read somewhere on some list that it's got a lot more graphics in it. That 
> can't be good. But it can't hurt to try. If anybody find something on the 
> web, it would be great.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried getting the iOS 9 manual thrugh ibooks?
>> I can't find anything on the web either.
>> Richarde
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
>> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
>> Subject: Up to date Bluetooth keyboard commands for iOS
>> 
>> I am looking for a complete list of the Bluetooth keyboard commands 
>> available in iOS nine. Ideally, this would include all those inaccessible 
>> commands that were newly introduced. But, since that is not so likely, how 
>> about a place to find the general commands available for the OS? The ones I 
>> have seen online or several years old.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Gmail]

Hey, nkfty! I'm going to check out the Amazon page. If I like it, it's going on 
the wish list. Did you look at any other similar products? If so, what made you 
pick the Belkin one over any others?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> One of the questions that was asked and answered, either on the Apple Store 
> or Amazon, I forget which, said that this keyboard from Belkin will in fact 
> work with an iPhone.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you think these keyboards with work on iPhone as well as an iPad? I know 
>> that the new iPhones and new iPads have the same lightning connector, but I 
>> know that there are some things that are iPad-specific, i.e., The camera 
>> connector kit that was iPad-specific, and couldn't be used on iPhones.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just did a search on Amazon and Logitech has one as well.  It doesn't 
>>> mention a stand.  The price on that one is $47.95.
>>> Logitech Wired Keyboard for iPad with Lightning Connector (920-006341)
>>> 4.6 out of 5 stars   7 Reviews
>>> 
>>> It looks like the full info on the Belkin is:
>>> Belkin Apple MFi Certified Wired Tablet Keyboard with Stand and Lightning 
>>> Connector for iPad Pro, iPad 4th Gen, iPad Air (All Versions), iPad mini 
>>> (All Versions), Designed for School and Classroom  4.0 out of 5 stars   
>>> 64 reviews  $54.99
>>> 
>>> These might be a good option for anyone taking notes on a regular basis.  
>>> Sure looks like a way to avoid the Bluetooth issues.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Traci
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>>> 
>>> It is the Belkin lightning keyboard with stand.  The stand doubles as a 
>>> handle for the keyboard.  There is cord storage build-in the rear.  The 
>>> price was $54 plus tax.  This same keyboard was $69 on Apple's store I 
>>> believe.
>>> 
>>> The other model that I was debating between was the Kinsington.  It did not 
>>> have a stand or media keys, & it was $44.
>>> 
>>> Both keyboards get good reviews.  They are selling these keyboards mostly 
>>> for school testing purposes.  Lol, the keys are pry-off resistant for kids. 
>>>  Maybe that explains the noisy nature of the keys.
>>> 
>>> One more thing to point out, the media keys are suppose to work with 
>>> youTube as well.  Pause/play etc.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Traci
>>> PS. Typed this on the keyboard. ;)  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mini
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
 any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
 function key to date.
 Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Lisa Belville
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
 
 Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
 
 I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
 but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
 
 Lisa
 
 Lisa Belville
 missktlab1...@frontier.com
 A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
 stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Traci Duncan" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
 Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
 
 
 Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
 instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
 liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
 the bluetooth keyboard issues.
 
 The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
 button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
 
 What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an 
 external 
 keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
 remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
 
 It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
 landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the 
 cord 
 away.
 Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 

Re: question about yahoo fantasy sports app

[Brian Fischler]

Hi Holly,

thanks for bringing this week bug to my attention as I had not noticed it yet. 
I am working directly with Yahoo fantasy’s developers and will let then know 
about this. They have definitely slipped up a little lately with VO 
accessibility but they are still more accessible than any other fantasy sports 
app out there. 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Holly Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I have a question about the fantasy sports app, ever since the 
> update, I can no longer click on individual weeks in the match ups tab.  At 
> the top where I used to be able to click on weeks, it now says, week 1, 
> week2, week3, etc all in one control, instead of breaking it up.  Has anyone 
> figured out a way to view individual weeks?
> 
> Thanks.
> Holly
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Twenty three things you can do in iOS 9 that you couldn't do in iOS 8.

[Connie Mohney]

23 Things You Can Do in iOS 9 That You Couldn't Do in iOS 8

By David Nield

 

http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/23-things-you-can-do-in-ios-9-that-you-couldnt
-do-in-io-1731300214

 

It may have come to your attention that there's
 a fresh version
of iOS in town. But aside from a font change, what's different about this
new edition of Apple's mobile OS? To help you navigate around iOS 9, we've
listed all the tricks that it can do that were beyond the capabilities of
iOS 8.


1. Get public transit directions


Unlike Google, Apple updates all its stock apps with iOS, so there are some
new goodies to be found: Apple Maps now includes bus, train and subway
schedule information for a handful of cities worldwide (like New York and
London). You can also see right on the map if your ride is currently
delayed.

Advertisement


2. Read the news


While you could get the news in iOS 8, you couldn't get the new news-reading
News app Apple has bundled in with iOS 9. It features some carefully curated
content from a group of partner publishers, with articles specially
formatted for iOS devices in an easy-to-follow layout.


3. Access iCloud more easily


iCloud has never been the easiest cloud storage service to actually get at
(most of what it does happens behind the scenes) but iOS 9 makes it a little
more visible: Go to Settings, iCloud then iCloud Drive and toggle the switch
marked Show on Home Screen to enable the icon shortcut.


4. Split the screen


Attention iPad owners! You can all take advantage of the Slide Over feature
in iOS 9 that brings in a second app as a sidebar-just slide your finger in
from the right. iPad Air 2 (and iPad Pro) users can also activate the more
advanced Split View by tapping and dragging the Slide Over border line.


5. Go back quickly


Were Android users right all along? If you look up in the top-left corner of
the iOS 9 interface you'll often see a Back button there for those times
you're jumping between apps to check maps or links. It can be a quicker way
of navigating around than double-tapping on the Home button.


6. Run smarter searches


As Spotlight in iOS 9 learns more about you, it will make smarter search
recommendations-swipe left from the main home screen to test it out. Your
most frequently used contacts, apps, locations and more will be shown first,
but you can keep scrolling down to see further options.


7. Write on email attachments


If you've always wanted to doodle on the attachments your friends and
colleagues send you, then now's your chance: Look for the Markup button when
you open or press and hold on a particular attachment (where it appears
depends on the file format of the attachment you're opening).


8. Take better Notes


Notes is another stock app with a lot of new stuff to show off with iOS 9.
The revamped app lets you add web links, photos, checklists and drawings to
your notes now, and everything can be synced via iCloud. There are now more
formatting options to play around with, so watch out Evernote.


9. Abandon poor wifi connections


The new Wi-Fi Assist feature in iOS 9 lets you hop onto a speedy LTE
connection if the wifi connection you're using isn't up to scratch (quite
likely if you're out and about). Head to Settings then Cellular and tap on
the Wi-Fi Assist toggle switch at the bottom to make use of the feature.


10. Zoom in on your videos


You can now pinch and zoom on your video clips as well as your photos-go
ahead and try it. There's also a different way of choosing video and slo-mo
recording modes, as long as your device supports them (open up Settings, tap
on Photos & Camera and look under the Camera heading).


11. Get listening faster


Try plugging your headphones into your newly updated iOS 9 device-notice
anything different? Your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad should show a small icon
depicting the music player app you most recently used, which you launch with
a tap (or a slide upwards if the screen is locked).


12. Add events from your emails


Part of Apple's new, smarter, more proactive Siri and iOS strategy involves
spotting events in your email messages and automatically adding them to your
calendar (very Google Now-esque). Prompts should appear in both the Mail and
Calendar apps when potential events are spotted.


13. Search through Settings


Finding what you need in the iOS Settings app has never really been a walk
in the park, but help has arrived with iOS 9. You'll notice a new search box
at the top of the front screen in Settings: Enter your query here (e.g.
"Bluetooth" and all of the matching options appear in a list underneath.


14. Block out the ads


Controversially, Safari on iOS now supports mobile ad blockers, so you can
browse the internet at large free from memory-hogging, attention-grabbing
promotions. If you go into the Safari section of Settings, 

Re: Still looking for a set of Bluetooth commands for my iPad

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
Also, a link to it on Apple’s website is
http://help.apple.com/iphone/9/ 
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, the book is called iPhone User manual, iOS 9, and is by Apple Inc.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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>> On 25/09/2015, at 7:12 AM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Someone suggested that, since I had been unable to find a recently updated 
>> set of available Bluetooth commands for use with iPads, I should try looking 
>> in iBooks for the iOS nine manual. I just did a search for iOS nine, and was 
>> surprised to find only two items, both of which cost money, neither of which 
>> was the sought after manual. What am I doing wrong question and where can I 
>> find Bluetooth keyboard commands that are usable in iOS nine? 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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All these wonderful perplexing devices

[Christopher Moss]

I am a legally blind historical novelist who loves all the new but 
frustrating tools coming out of places like Apple and Amazon.

I am finding the Echyo partivbbularly frustrating  since there is so little 
on it in twrms of books, and other tools called  Echo that have nothing to 
do with it... form instance, I bought the Echo Pen and am returning it 
because it turns out to have nothing to do with working the Amazon Alexa 
Echo...  grrr...

I also am starting to use my iPad, which my beloved gave me last Christmas, 
because it is supposed to work with Exho.  I needed to start using it 
anyway, even though I don't go to  lectures or even much out of the house 
at my age and infirmity.  One thing I am find ing extremenly perplexing is 
how the iPad supposedly is accessible but at the same time does not seem to 
be at all.  I went into settings to increase the size of the font but it 
didn't, exceptt   the Settings.  I could use some typs on using iPad 
accessibility.

On the other  hand my beloved Kindle Keyboard is as gentle as a lamb, and 
just as tasty.

I told you I was a novelist.  My books are on Amazon under the names Nan 
Hawthorne and Christopher Hawthorne Moss and are both self published and 
also published formally.  If you are interested in any, let me know.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

As I said, I am typopathological, so forgive any I did not catch.

Kir Moss

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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Traci]

Hi, I chose the Belkin keyboard because I thought I'd really like the media 
keys & the stand.

I'm not much help when it comes to the Bluetooth keyboard problems, I haven't 
been following those discussions., however I'm not having issues with my 
refreshable braille display nor this lightning cable keyboard.

hth,
Traci

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> I doubt it. If I understand correctly, people that use refreshable braille 
> displays with their iPhones aren't experiencing the same kinds of problems as 
> people using Bluetooth keyboards. Also, the connection type is totally 
> different than Bluetooth for these lightning keyboards. You never know, 
> though. Braille input is very different than QWERTY input, and the problems 
> could be with keyboards in general, excluding Braille displays, not 
> necessarily Bluetooth keyboards only. I'm just speculating here. Sorry if my 
> thought process isn't very clear.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Can anyone tell me if the issues present with the Bluetooth keyboards and I 
>> OS 9 are also present with the lightning keyboards and iOS nine?
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One of the questions that was asked and answered, either on the Apple Store 
>>> or Amazon, I forget which, said that this keyboard from Belkin will in fact 
>>> work with an iPhone.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Gmail  wrote:
 
 Do you think these keyboards with work on iPhone as well as an iPad? I 
 know that the new iPhones and new iPads have the same lightning connector, 
 but I know that there are some things that are iPad-specific, i.e., The 
 camera connector kit that was iPad-specific, and couldn't be used on 
 iPhones.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just did a search on Amazon and Logitech has one as well.  It doesn't 
> mention a stand.  The price on that one is $47.95.
> Logitech Wired Keyboard for iPad with Lightning Connector (920-006341)
> 4.6 out of 5 stars   7 Reviews
> 
> It looks like the full info on the Belkin is:
> Belkin Apple MFi Certified Wired Tablet Keyboard with Stand and Lightning 
> Connector for iPad Pro, iPad 4th Gen, iPad Air (All Versions), iPad mini 
> (All Versions), Designed for School and Classroom  4.0 out of 5 stars 
>   64 reviews  $54.99
> 
> These might be a good option for anyone taking notes on a regular basis.  
> Sure looks like a way to avoid the Bluetooth issues.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Traci
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> It is the Belkin lightning keyboard with stand.  The stand doubles as a 
> handle for the keyboard.  There is cord storage build-in the rear.  The 
> price was $54 plus tax.  This same keyboard was $69 on Apple's store I 
> believe.
> 
> The other model that I was debating between was the Kinsington.  It did 
> not have a stand or media keys, & it was $44.
> 
> Both keyboards get good reviews.  They are selling these keyboards mostly 
> for school testing purposes.  Lol, the keys are pry-off resistant for 
> kids.  Maybe that explains the noisy nature of the keys.
> 
> One more thing to point out, the media keys are suppose to work with 
> youTube as well.  Pause/play etc.
> 
> HTH,
> Traci
> PS. Typed this on the keyboard. ;)  
> 
> Sent from my Mini
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can 
>> program any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use 
>> for the function key to date.
>> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>> 
>> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
>> 
>> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth 
>> keyboard, 
>> but 

Re: Settings always in app switcher

[Noe Villeda]

I have noticed this also.
Usually, if you open phone or settings and then go to app switcher, it is there.
Nothing to lose sleep over, but it is annoying.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher


  Hi Jen and Andy,

   

  While it seems that so far the two of you are the only ones experiencing 
this, it really is not doing any harm if Settings is in the app switcher and I 
wouldn’t loose any sleep over it. It’s not like it would slow down your phone 
or put a drain on your battery.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:07 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Settings always in app switcher

   

  Allen,

   

  I have done the same thing, and no matter what I do to turn the phone 
completely off, it comes back once the phone has been restarted. I have to 
constantly go back into the app switcher and close settings.

   

  Jenn

   

  TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Settings always in app switcher

   

  Andy, 

   

  Have you tried going into app switcher, placing focus on the settings item, 
and doing a three finger swipe up to close it? 

   

  Alan Lemly 


  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I have noticed that since i upgraded my iPhone 6 to IOS 9, when I go into 
the app switcher, Settings is always active, even though I have not launched 
it. i close it, but the next time I use the phone and go into the app switcher 
to close whatever app I am using, Settings is there again. Is this normal, and 
if not, what can I do to stop this?

 

Andy

I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.

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RE: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired

[Sieghard Weitzel]

They are special USB drives which usually have a regular USB plug on one end so 
you can plug it into a computer and on the other side they have a Lightning 
connector to plug into your iPhone.
You can put anything you want on them, music, movies, pictures, documents etc. 
The issue is that for the most part you are limited to using this data inside 
whatever app you have to install to access the drive, e.g. if you put a bunch 
of songs onto one of these USB drives, it is not accessible by the music app.
Think of it like the Dropbox app except that instead of having the files in the 
cloud they are on a little USB drive connected to your phone.
Personally I don't find any use for them, they are quite expensive compared to 
a regular USB drive of the same capacity and you are better off spending that 
money and get the largest iPhone you can next time you buy a new one.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Amy Gordon
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired

didn't know there were ios flash drives. Can they be used with Iphone and what 
can u put on them?

On 9/24/15, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> as any one used any of these?
>
> http://www.wired.com/2015/04/ios-flash-drives/
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RE: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mary, if it's a Lightning connector keyboard I'm sure these keys will behave 
properly since Apple is the only company I know of that uses the Lightning port.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

Are the keys on this keyboard programmed such that they will do the Mac things 
like command control and option, rather than the windows things? I know that if 
you have certain windows keyboards and connect them to a Mac, those keys don't 
work right.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are only using it with an iOS device, I don't think you can program 
> any keys and as far as I know, Apple has not implemented any use for the 
> function key to date.
> Perhaps on a Mac, but I've never seen any use for it with an iOS device.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> Tracey, do you know the brand of your keyboard?
> 
> I've never had a reason to use the function key on my Bluetooth keyboard, 
> but then I've never had to reprogram any of the keys, either.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> A bus station is where the bus stops. A train station is where the train
> stops.  On my desk I have a work station...
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Traci Duncan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
> Subject: Lightning Cable Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi all, I have purchased a keyboard with stand & a lightning connecter, 
> instead of bluetooth.  First, I thought this was a really cool idea.  I 
> liked the thought of not having yet another bluetooth device, plus none of 
> the bluetooth keyboard issues.
> 
> The keyboard has a dedicated home button, lock/unlock button, & a mail 
> button.  In addition to media & volume keys.
> 
> What it is lacking is a function key.  For those of you that use an external 
> keyboard frequently, would this be a deal breaker for you?  I cannot 
> remember the commands I may be missing with no function key.
> 
> It has also occurred to me that I can only use the stand for a device in 
> landscape mode.  I’m not seeing a way to use it in portrait & tuck the cord 
> away.
>  Lastly, & this may be a tiny personal gripe, but I find typing on it 
> rather loud.  Lol!  It makes me think of hearing typing on Tv or movies.
> 
> So, bottom line for me personally, cool idea, but not sure if the $60 price 
> is worth it.  Maybe if I regularly typed out long documents.  I am going to 
> practice with it a bit more to remind myself of navigation commands.  Five 
> years ago, when we got our first iPad, I loved using a bluetooth qwerty 
> keyboard with it.  ;)  Maybe it has just been too long, and it isn’t my 
> thing anymore.
> 
> In any case, I wanted to write about this, because before a few days ago, I 
> didn’t know lightning keyboards existed.  It may be the perfect solution for 
> someone else.
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
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