Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have yourphoen unlock

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

My mute switch is up.

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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:39 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> It's turning on the mute switch that brings the screen locked anouncement 
> back, not turning off VO sounds, just in case anyone was confused.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, fair enough, since I never turn sounds off and from what I read on this 
>> list not many blind users do I didn't realize that Voiceover still said 
>> screen locked when sounds were off. To me it is however not a good exchange 
>> to turn off all sounds just so I can hear "Screen Locked", once you get used 
>> to the phone just making the sound it's fine as far as I am concerned. It's 
>> just like when they introduced the "Dock" announcement whenever you touch an 
>> app in the dock, to me that is superfluous, but others may like it, but I 
>> have gotten used to it.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of BBS
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
>> yourphoen unlock
>>  
>> Hi Sieghard. You're sorta incorrect about the screen locked announcement. If 
>> he really wants the announcement back, he can disable sounds and it will 
>> come back.
>>  
>>  
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
>> yourphoen unlock
>>  
>> Hi Simon,
>>  
>> The "screen locked" announcement is no more in iOS 10 and there is no option 
>> to reenable it.
>>  
>> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
>> yourphoen unlock
>>  
>> Hi, where do I find the option to lock the screen automatically, and where 
>> do I find the option that when I press the on button on top of the phone to 
>> lock the screen it says screen locked?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:55 AM, rajmund  wrote:
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Twitterrific

[terri elliott]

How do I go about unfollowing someone on Twitterrific and how do I go about 
searching and following someone using  twitterrific.  Thanks.

Terri

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the latest version of itune son windows, how's accessible it?

[Amir]

Hi,

anone tried using the latest version of itunes? because now i am using 
12.4.3.1, but i cant find the list where it displays the list of musics. 
using jaws for windows . also, mymusics in the library doesn't get 
sinced to the iphone whenever i try sincing it, it said it's sincing in 
proegrsess but when i go to music app, i cannot find it. thanks



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RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have yourphoen unlock

[BBS]

Actually Ari that's also incorrect. I have Voiceover sounds turned off and my 
phone isn't muted and I still get the screen locked message.

 

 

Shawn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

It's turning on the mute switch that brings the screen locked anouncement back, 
not turning off VO sounds, just in case anyone was confused.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

OK, fair enough, since I never turn sounds off and from what I read on this 
list not many blind users do I didn't realize that Voiceover still said screen 
locked when sounds were off. To me it is however not a good exchange to turn 
off all sounds just so I can hear "Screen Locked", once you get used to the 
phone just making the sound it's fine as far as I am concerned. It's just like 
when they introduced the "Dock" announcement whenever you touch an app in the 
dock, to me that is superfluous, but others may like it, but I have gotten used 
to it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
BBS
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

Hi Sieghard. You're sorta incorrect about the screen locked announcement. If he 
really wants the announcement back, he can disable sounds and it will come back.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

Hi Simon,

 

The "screen locked" announcement is no more in iOS 10 and there is no option to 
reenable it.

 

From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

Hi, where do I find the option to lock the screen automatically, and where do I 
find the option that when I press the on button on top of the phone to lock the 
screen it says screen locked?


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iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone jack

[Mary Otten]

So they have this new taptic engine, and some plastic piece. Now why did they 
have to take the headphone jack out if Samsung did not in order to make their 
galaxy even more waterproof them apple's device? That is a reasonable question 
I think. I am not arguing for the return of the headphone jack. But it would 
seem that it is not as simple as Apple would have  us think. Further, let us 
hope that this new engine stays around long enough to actually prove useful as 
opposed to the traditional home button. Rumors are already flying about how 
even the button that remains this year, which is attached so to speak to the 
new taptic engine, is going away next year.
Mary
iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone jack
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


As it does every year, device repair site iFixit is putting all of Apple’s new 
devices through the teardown process. This year, the site is tearing down the 
iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and Apple Watch 2. As usual, Apple leaves some details 
regarding the internals of its new devices a secret, but iFixit is able to 
figure out some of those secrets with its teardowns…


In its iPhone 7 Plus teardown, iFixit notes of the similar teardown process to 
previous iPhone models. The classic Pentalobe screens are still there, while 
there are still two now-familiar screws guard each side of the Lightning 
connector. One interesting tidbit is that the iPhone 7 Plus opens to the side 
when you remove the display, as seen below. This change, iFixit notes, is 
likely related to the new water resistance feature.

Regarding the headphone jack removal, the Taptic Engine is taking up the 
majority of the space where the connectivity was housed, but interestingly 
there’s a simple plastic bumper where the actual cutout used to be. This 
suggests that, while the Taptic Engine was part of the reason for Apple to 
remove the headphone jack, the ability to make the iPhone water resistant was 
likely equally important.

As far as the battery goes, the iPhone 7 Plus features a slightly larger 
battery than its predecessor. The iPhone 6 Plus featured a 2750mAh battery, 
while this year’s model features a 2915mAh battery.

For the Apple Watch, iFixit has just started its teardown so there’s not much 
to see yet. iFixit has also not yet started its teardown

We’ll continue to update this post as the teardown process progresses. In the 
meantime, check out a few images from the process below.






Guides

iPhone 7


Apple's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus were announced on 7th September 2016

View THe Guide


Original Article: 
http://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/ifixit-teardown-reveals-exactly-what-replaced-the-iphone-7s-headphone-jack


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Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have yourphoen unlock

[englishrider91]

It's turning on the mute switch that brings the screen locked anouncement back, 
not turning off VO sounds, just in case anyone was confused.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> OK, fair enough, since I never turn sounds off and from what I read on this 
> list not many blind users do I didn't realize that Voiceover still said 
> screen locked when sounds were off. To me it is however not a good exchange 
> to turn off all sounds just so I can hear "Screen Locked", once you get used 
> to the phone just making the sound it's fine as far as I am concerned. It's 
> just like when they introduced the "Dock" announcement whenever you touch an 
> app in the dock, to me that is superfluous, but others may like it, but I 
> have gotten used to it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> BBS
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
> yourphoen unlock
>  
> Hi Sieghard. You're sorta incorrect about the screen locked announcement. If 
> he really wants the announcement back, he can disable sounds and it will come 
> back.
>  
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
> yourphoen unlock
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> The "screen locked" announcement is no more in iOS 10 and there is no option 
> to reenable it.
>  
> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
> yourphoen unlock
>  
> Hi, where do I find the option to lock the screen automatically, and where do 
> I find the option that when I press the on button on top of the phone to lock 
> the screen it says screen locked?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:55 AM, rajmund  wrote:
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Re: attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Mário Navarro]

yes, but that's what I do.
I have several messages with 4 attachments, but I can not identify them.
thanks.
cheers.


Às 04:05 de 16/09/2016, Candie Stiles escreveu:
I find the attachments at the very end of the email. They are listed 
there by the title, and when I double tap on that, the file opens.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Mário Navarro > wrote:





hi all.
any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 
with VO?

if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in 
normal view.

Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low 
Vision Users, From Serious To Minor ,

this supposed bug is not listed.
I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to 
apple on this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
attachments?

thanks.
cheers.

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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Chris Chaffin]

Thanks Anna!  I tried the phrase you suggested and it worked like a charm!!
Got it now!  If the Emoji item is not in the rotor, then there is no emoji 
substitutes.

This is fun learning new things!!

Chris


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> When I did it, Emoji was available on the rotor. I wonder if maybe the 
> message you wrote didn't have any automatic Emoji substitutions. I tried it 
> with the sentence Jonathan Mosen suggested in his book: I love pizza.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anna,
>> 
>> Is there a setting that needs to be turned on or something to make the Emoji 
>> item appear on the rotor?
>> I opened the messages app, typed my short message, switched the keyboard to 
>> emoji, then checked my rotor, and there was no emoji selection.
>> I think this feature sounds really cool, so wanted to check it out.
>> 
>> Any help with this would be appreciated!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>> 
>>> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
>>> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
>>> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
>>> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
>>> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
>>> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
>>> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in 
 any text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of 
 text I've written? 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi Mary.
thanks for the answer.
weird, I can not see attachments.
I've tried several ways, but I can not see the attachments.

but I'm glad to know it's not a bug.
now I just have to understand why I can not identify the attachments.
thanks.
cheers.

Às 04:04 de 16/09/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

  Yes, I have received messages in the last few days with attachments. And I 
have been able to see them without a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:



hi all.
any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 with VO?
if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in normal view.
Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low Vision 
Users, From Serious To Minor ,
this supposed bug is not listed.
I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to apple on 
this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
attachments?
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Chris Chaffin]

I just went and checked a message that I had received with an attachment, and I 
could see it with voice over, and when I did a double tap and hold, the pop up 
menu came up where you can open it in another app, save it to dropbox, or more.
I went to the bottom of the screen by touching near the home button where the 
reply, delete and other buttons are, swiped left to the mark button, and then 
one more swipe left put me on the attachment.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:48 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi all.
> any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 with VO?
> if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
> this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in normal view.
> Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
> in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low Vision 
> Users, From Serious To Minor ,
> this supposed bug is not listed.
> I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to apple on 
> this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
> any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
> attachments?
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Re: attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Candie Stiles]

I find the attachments at the very end of the email. They are listed there by 
the title, and when I double tap on that, the file opens.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi all.
> any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 with VO?
> if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
> this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in normal view.
> Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
> in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low Vision 
> Users, From Serious To Minor ,
> this supposed bug is not listed.
> I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to apple on 
> this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
> any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
> attachments?
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Re: attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Mary Otten]

 Yes, I have received messages in the last few days with attachments. And I 
have been able to see them without a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi all.
> any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 with VO?
> if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
> this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in normal view.
> Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
> in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low Vision 
> Users, From Serious To Minor ,
> this supposed bug is not listed.
> I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to apple on 
> this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
> any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
> attachments?
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Chris,

When I did it, Emoji was available on the rotor. I wonder if maybe the message 
you wrote didn't have any automatic Emoji substitutions. I tried it with the 
sentence Jonathan Mosen suggested in his book: I love pizza.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna,
> 
> Is there a setting that needs to be turned on or something to make the Emoji 
> item appear on the rotor?
> I opened the messages app, typed my short message, switched the keyboard to 
> emoji, then checked my rotor, and there was no emoji selection.
> I think this feature sounds really cool, so wanted to check it out.
> 
> Any help with this would be appreciated!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jennifer,
>> 
>> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
>> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
>> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
>> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
>> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
>> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
>> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
>>> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text 
>>> I've written? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: poorquality of voices

[Mary Otten]

Well, given the fact that there are apparently plenty of people on these lists 
who don't think the voices  are problem, maybe Apple isn't hearing a lot from 
people who do think they are problem. And maybe they don't know. After all, the 
number of people who use these voices, compared to the number of overall 
customers, is exceedingly small. So raise your voice. I know I have requested 
that they open up their system to the point where we can use other voices that 
they don't provide. And that hasn't gotten me anywhere.

Mary


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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to use 
> their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right to raise 
> the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite a bit of 
> mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so again, I'd 
> think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple could also go 
> to another company if they didn't think Nuance was providing the quality they 
> expect from their suppliers and want to include in their devices. If Apple 
> includes substandard parts in their devices then yes I think they have some 
> responsibility for that decision.
> 
> You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the details of 
> Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up.
> 
>> On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove 
>> that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, I 
>> don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could 
>> improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be 
>> nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, 
>> open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, such 
>> as voice dream reader.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm 
>>> sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to let 
>>> Apple share some of the responsibility.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
 Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
 updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
 mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.
 
 Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
 
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes >>> > wrote:
 
   Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
   very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
   what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
   have left it alone. Just my opinion.
 
   Chantal Oakes
 
   On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan >>>   > wrote:
 
>   Hi,
> 
> 
>   I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
> 
> 
>   I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
> 
> 
>   Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
>   voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
>   that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
>   high quality voice.
> 
> 
>   With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
>   I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
>   that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
> 
> 
>   Am I alone in this?
> 
> 
>   Dan Beaver
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RE: update to IOS10 did not require setup

[Ron Pelletier]

The same thing happened to me on my SE.  No need to worry

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update to IOS10 did not require setup

 

The same thing happened to me on my 6S. Interesting. 

 

Wayne Merritt

Sent from my iPhone 6S


On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:32 AM, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello list

Usually an update requires the usual setup process and this is also confirmed 
in Jonathan’s book but when I did the update this morning the iPhone 5s landed 
in the lockscreen and when I unlocked it it asked for my pin code and then I 
landed on page 2. The about item in settings shows it is IOS10. Should I be 
worried?

Regards

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attachments, with iPhone and VO in IOS 10 mail app.

[Mário Navarro]

hi all.
any of you can see the attachments in the native  Mail  app on ios 10 
with VO?

if a message has attachments, I can not identify the attachments with VO.
this occurs in any situation. organize conversation view,  or in normal 
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Someone can explain how to view attachments, or is it a bug in VO?
in applevis site on Accessibility Bugs in iOS 10 for Blind and Low 
Vision Users, From Serious To Minor ,

this supposed bug is not listed.
I came across this situation in the betas of ios 10, I reported to apple 
on this situation but I never had make sure it was a bug.
any of you can make sure it's a bug, or is there another way to view 
attachments?

thanks.
cheers.

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Audio Unboxing/familiarisation with the iPhone 7 Plus

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, following on from our wrap of last week's Apple event, this week's 
episode of The Blind Side Podcast features a comprehensive unboxing, setting 
up, and then exploration of the new iPhone 7 Plus.
If you'd like to take a listen, subscribe to The Blind Side Podcast in any good 
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Anna,

Is there a setting that needs to be turned on or something to make the Emoji 
item appear on the rotor?
I opened the messages app, typed my short message, switched the keyboard to 
emoji, then checked my rotor, and there was no emoji selection.
I think this feature sounds really cool, so wanted to check it out.

Any help with this would be appreciated!

Chris


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
> your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
> Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when 
> you're on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether 
> there's one option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the 
> replacement. If there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move 
> through them, and double-tap the one you want.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
>> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
>> written? 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: poorquality of voices

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to 
use their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right 
to raise the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite 
a bit of mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so 
again, I'd think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple 
could also go to another company if they didn't think Nuance was 
providing the quality they expect from their suppliers and want to 
include in their devices. If Apple includes substandard parts in their 
devices then yes I think they have some responsibility for that decision.


You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the 
details of Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up.


On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:

Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove 
that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, I 
don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could 
improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be 
nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, 
open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, such as 
voice dream reader.
Mary


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On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm sure 
they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to let Apple 
share some of the responsibility.



On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes mailto:chantaloa...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

   Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
   very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
   what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
   have left it alone. Just my opinion.

   Chantal Oakes

   On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


   Hi,


   I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.


   I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.


   Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
   voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
   that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
   high quality voice.


   With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
   I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
   that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.


   Am I alone in this?


   Dan Beaver

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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Connie Mohney]

Samantha is all I’ve ever used for serie and voice over

Connie

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10

 

I still use Samantha and, Alex to read articles.

 


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Casey  wrote:

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
phone?
I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
responsive.
So that is why all of the questions.


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Anthony Vece]

I still use Samantha and, Alex to read articles.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Casey  wrote:
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> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
> phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
> responsive.
> So that is why all of the questions.
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Re: poorquality of voices

[Mary Otten]

Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove 
that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, I 
don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could 
improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be 
nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, 
open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, such as 
voice dream reader.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm sure 
> they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to let Apple 
> share some of the responsibility.
> 
> 
>> On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
>> updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
>> mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes > > wrote:
>> 
>>Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
>>very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
>>what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
>>have left it alone. Just my opinion.
>> 
>>Chantal Oakes
>> 
>>On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan >> wrote:
>> 
>>>Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
>>>voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
>>>that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
>>>high quality voice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
>>>I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
>>>that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Am I alone in this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Dan Beaver
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Message Effects do Work, here's how!

[Chris Chaffin]

OK, I am running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6, and message effects works fine for me.
The way I tested it, and to see what it is like, is I sent messages to myself.  
I know, boring, but it works!! :)

To get message effects to work, just do a double tap and hold on the send 
button and a pop up window will appear.  Now there is no sound with the pop up 
window, and sometimes voice over does not focus on it, but if you explore the 
screen a little, then try swiping left or right, you will find yourself in the 
effects window.
Now there is two types of effects, bubbles and screen.  Bubbles are selected by 
default.  If you land on bubbles, you will notice that voice over says, bubbles 
selected, one of two.
Now there is three or four different bubbles to choose from, Slam, loud, 
gentle, and one more that I can not remember, smiles!  I sent myself a test 
message with a slam bubble effect, when the message came in, voice over said 
something like, a message from Chris comes slamming in with dust flying up 
around it.  So voice over does describe the effect, so that is pretty cool!!

Now, in the pop up window, if you swipe one time past bubbles, you will hear 
screen.  This is the second type of effect, so just double tap it to bring up 
the screen choices.
Now if you swipe right you will come to the first of five screen choices, 
balloons.  This is a button, so just double tap it to send the balloon effect 
with your message.
If you swipe past balloons, first is a close button, then you will find a 
counter, and it will say, one of five.  To move between the different screen 
effects, just flick up or down with one finger.
As screen effects you have, balloons, confetti, lasers, fireworks, and shooting 
star.

Now I know these effects might not work perfect, but since they are very 
graphical in nature, I think it is pretty cool that not only can we send the 
effects, but voice over also describes the effects when the message comes in.  
Thank you Apple for including accessibility!
Now I will only mention one more thing.

When you receive a message, if you flick up or down with one finger on the 
message, within the choices will be react.  If you double tap on react, it lets 
you send a reply back with your reaction to the message.  When you double tap 
on react, a pop up menu will appear with different reaction choices like, red 
heart for love the message, thumbs up, thumbs down, and more.  To send your 
reaction, all you have to do is to double tap on your choice and it is 
automatically sent.
Another cool thing!!

I hope all of this has been helpful!

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Re: poorquality of voices

[Christopher Chaltain]

You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm 
sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to 
let Apple share some of the responsibility.



On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:

Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes mailto:chantaloa...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
have left it alone. Just my opinion.

Chantal Oakes

On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,


I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.


I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.


Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
high quality voice.


With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.


Am I alone in this?


Dan Beaver

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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Mary Otten]

I did keep Ava of all the new voices. I'm going to give her some more time. I 
thought I might like her as a possible Kendra replacement for that inevitable 
day. But now I'm not sure. Isn't it nice to have choices? I just wish we had 
all of the choices. Never satisfied.
Mary


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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Amen to that Mary.
>  
> But, I’ve settled with Ava for now as my default voice.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in 
> IOS 10
>  
> Well, to be very honest, if somebody had made the old triple talk voice into 
> a software version, like they did for Dectalk, I would use that with a screen 
> reader. I still have one of those triple talks in an old machine that I use. 
> I'm used to it. I've had one for I can't tell you how long, starting with the 
> double talk. And there was one particular variant that I got very used to. So 
> eloquence? No thank you. But I would love the triple talk.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have always noticed that when the discussion about voices comes up 
> especially with an app like Voice Dream where there are lots of options you 
> ask 10 people and you probably get 8 different answers.
> Voices are super subjective, I do like Tom, but still use Samantha Enhanced 
> maybe simply because I'm used to her just as I prefer Eloquence for use with 
> Jaws even though the high quality voices available are also very responsive 
> and all. I'm not saying one can't ask for the opinion of others, but in the 
> end you just have to try all of them out for yourself and decide what you 
> like.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10
> 
> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
> phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
> responsive.
> So that is why all of the questions.
> 
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Re: imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jennifer,

I think the substitution of emojis only happens in Messages. After you type 
your message, switch to the Emoji keyboard. There's now a rotor item called 
Emojis; turn the rotor to that. When you flick down, you'll be told when you're 
on a word that can be replaced by an emoji. It will say whether there's one 
option or several. If there's one, double-tap to make the replacement. If 
there's more than one choice, flick left and right to move through them, and 
double-tap the one you want.

HTH,
Anna


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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
> text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
> written? 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Richard Turner]

Amen to that Mary.

But, I’ve settled with Ava for now as my default voice.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 
10

Well, to be very honest, if somebody had made the old triple talk voice into a 
software version, like they did for Dectalk, I would use that with a screen 
reader. I still have one of those triple talks in an old machine that I use. 
I'm used to it. I've had one for I can't tell you how long, starting with the 
double talk. And there was one particular variant that I got very used to. So 
eloquence? No thank you. But I would love the triple talk.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I have always noticed that when the discussion about voices comes up especially 
with an app like Voice Dream where there are lots of options you ask 10 people 
and you probably get 8 different answers.
Voices are super subjective, I do like Tom, but still use Samantha Enhanced 
maybe simply because I'm used to her just as I prefer Eloquence for use with 
Jaws even though the high quality voices available are also very responsive and 
all. I'm not saying one can't ask for the opinion of others, but in the end you 
just have to try all of them out for yourself and decide what you like.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
phone?
I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
responsive.
So that is why all of the questions.


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RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have yourphoen unlock

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, fair enough, since I never turn sounds off and from what I read on this 
list not many blind users do I didn't realize that Voiceover still said screen 
locked when sounds were off. To me it is however not a good exchange to turn 
off all sounds just so I can hear "Screen Locked", once you get used to the 
phone just making the sound it's fine as far as I am concerned. It's just like 
when they introduced the "Dock" announcement whenever you touch an app in the 
dock, to me that is superfluous, but others may like it, but I have gotten used 
to it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
BBS
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:11 PM
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yourphoen unlock

Hi Sieghard. You're sorta incorrect about the screen locked announcement. If he 
really wants the announcement back, he can disable sounds and it will come back.


Shawn
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

Hi Simon,

The "screen locked" announcement is no more in iOS 10 and there is no option to 
reenable it.

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:13 AM
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yourphoen unlock

Hi, where do I find the option to lock the screen automatically, and where do I 
find the option that when I press the on button on top of the phone to lock the 
screen it says screen locked?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Money reader

[Rich De Steno]

The name has been changed to NantMobile Money Reader, and it is free.



On 9/15/2016 7:50 PM, brian albriton wrote:

Who makes the look tell myoung reader now? I want to reinstall it and I don't 
find it in the app store.



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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[1baby1...@gmail.com]

Hi Jennifer,

I've sent messages to people with effects but haven't received any. When I send 
the message, VO explains what the effect is, but once the message is sent, 
there's no way to tell if it has effects or not. A lot of features in the 
messages app are more accessible than I thought they would be, so I applaud 
Apple for this, but I  think there's still some work that needs to be done. 

I sent an effects message with balloons, and a slamming bubble. I didn't try 
the invisible ink, but I will do that tonight and let you know. I think my 
friend who receives most out my test messages is being very patient with me, as 
I ask lots of questions, and I sent many accidental digital touch messages. Lol

Lynette 

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RE: doing the upgrade and an email question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The only method I have found which allows you delete individual messages in a 
thread is to flick down when you are on the message thread (before you double 
tap on it to open it) and then as one of the rotor options you have "Expand 
Thread". If you double tap on that the thread expands and you can swipe right 
and swipe to all the messages in the thread and delete individual ones or also 
double tap on them to open them.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: doing the upgrade and an email question

Hi Mary,

Sorry, you actually need to flick left a few more times to get to the Actions 
button. The Messages rotor takes you to the message sender, and you have to 
back up past the date and such to the end of the previous message. The button 
you want is right at the end of the previous message. Hope that makes sense.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anna,
I have been wondering this same thing, how to get rid of a single message 
rather than the whole thread when you're in a message. I just tried what you 
suggested, in this very thread. In Les's  message, the first in the thread, so 
I flicked down to  the number two which is your message, flick left once and I 
get details. No actions button anywhere that I can see. Am I doing something 
wrong?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2016, at 8:35 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi Les,

I haven't tried this since one of the betas, but I believe that at the end of 
each message is an Actions button that gives you options like Reply and Delete 
that apply to that specific message. So you would flick down to the next 
message and then flick left to get to the button.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anna,

What if you only wish to delete one message in the thread? How do you 
accomplish that? Thanks.

Les

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi Reggie,

When you read a message thread, there's still a Delete button at the bottom 
middle of the screen, just like when you read a single message. Double-tap it. 
A message saying, "Trash messages?" will come up. Double-tap Trash Messages, 
and the whole thread will be deleted.

Best,
Anna


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On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Regina Alvarado 
mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It was a very stressful upgrade for me, but I did it myself with only a little 
sighted help! So proud of myself, and I thank Apple for their verbosity and 
hand-holding on the Mac and iPhone. I had a problem with Apple ID and iCloud so 
I had to change my password. Because of the problem I had yesterday with 
upgrading, I also had to restore my phone. However, I'm back!

I do have a question about email. I like it a lot, but when I expand my 
messages and then flick through them for reading how do I read the first email 
and after reading the last how do I delete the messages altogether or is this 
possible? Thanks. By the way, I really like Allison enhanced.

reggie & Lex

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RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is something that is recommended by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and a 
recent Tech Radar article somebody posted here also mentioned this as a fix for 
problems with battery life or bluetooth/Wi-Fi connectivity after an upgrade. I 
just find that doing it in advance prevents such problems in the first place 
and while most of the time it may not be necessary, I rather do it and not need 
it than not do it and run into issues.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

I'd like to upgrade my iPad Mini 4 soon. I decided to avoid the rush. I 
understand the backing up and closing all apps with the app switcher, but why 
reset network settings? My wi-fi connection is working fine now. What is the 
purpose of resetting it?
Thanks.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

And to add to Anna's comment I can say that I upgraded my wife's old iPhone
6 which we want to sell since she now has a 6S and it went beautifully and 
without a hitch.
I did this last night, it told me the update was 1.1 Gb (for my 6S Plus I seem 
to remember it was much larger) and it downloaded in about 4 minutes, the 
update itself took about 15 minutes and it was all done.
I did, however, do my usual preparation: backup, close all apps from the app 
switcher and do a Reset Network Settings. Then I reconnected to Wi-Fi, renamed 
the phone's name back to Jackie's iPhone 6 since a reset network settings will 
change whatever you had named it to simply "iPhone" and then I did the update.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

Hi,

The various sites said yesterday evening that updating over the air was now 
safe.

Best,
Anna



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RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can also drive 20 years without wearing a seat belt and never get fined or 
have an accident, but then when you do have one and go through the window head 
first you wish you had worn the seat belt.
The same goes for making sure you have a backup and for closing out your apps 
and doing at least a reboot of your iPhone if you don't want to do a Reset 
Network Settings.
But to each their own, it is what I do and I know for a fact that people on 
this list and others I know have had issues from an upgrade and after they did 
a Reset Network setting the problems disappeared. I guess the difference 
between my car example and the iPhone is that often doing this after the fact 
still helps whereas of course you can't put on the seat belt after you go 
through the window *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

Hi,
I didn't do network settings, didn't close down the APPS, took 5 minutes to 
download the 1.6 GB, and 15 or so to install on both the iPad air, and iPhone 
5S. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:40 pm
Subject: RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

>
>
> And to add to Anna's comment I can say that I upgraded my wife's old iPhone 6 
> which we want to sell since she now has a 6S and it went beautifully and 
> without a hitch.
> I did this last night, it told me the update was 1.1 Gb (for my 6S Plus I 
> seem to remember it was much larger) and it downloaded in about 4 minutes, 
> the update itself took about 15 minutes and it was all done. 
> I did, however, do my usual preparation: backup, close all apps from the app 
> switcher and do a Reset Network Settings. Then I reconnected to Wi-Fi, 
> renamed the phone's name back to Jackie's iPhone 6 since a reset network 
> settings will change whatever you had named it to simply "iPhone" and then I 
> did the update.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The various sites said yesterday evening that updating over the air was now 
> safe.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Casey  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi I would like to upgrade my phone to the latest IoS.
> > Is it safe to do over the air now or is it better to still connect up to 
> > Itunes and do it that way?
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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Mary Otten]

Well, to be very honest, if somebody had made the old triple talk voice into a 
software version, like they did for Dectalk, I would use that with a screen 
reader. I still have one of those triple talks in an old machine that I use. 
I'm used to it. I've had one for I can't tell you how long, starting with the 
double talk. And there was one particular variant that I got very used to. So 
eloquence? No thank you. But I would love the triple talk.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have always noticed that when the discussion about voices comes up 
> especially with an app like Voice Dream where there are lots of options you 
> ask 10 people and you probably get 8 different answers.
> Voices are super subjective, I do like Tom, but still use Samantha Enhanced 
> maybe simply because I'm used to her just as I prefer Eloquence for use with 
> Jaws even though the high quality voices available are also very responsive 
> and all. I'm not saying one can't ask for the opinion of others, but in the 
> end you just have to try all of them out for yourself and decide what you 
> like.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10
> 
> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
> phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
> responsive.
> So that is why all of the questions.
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RE: portalbe battery chargers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You might want to try a different cable, I also have that charger and it works 
perfectly when I use any of my Lightning cables. I don't think there are any 
other talking chargers out there, but if you are considering a new external 
battery I can highly recommend the Anker brand which you can easily find on 
Amazon. They make anything from quite small 3,000 MAH capacity batteries to 
huge 26,000 MAH ones and everything in between. They don't however, indicate 
when they are charged, you just have to plug them in to the wall for a few 
hours or over night and then depending on what capacity you buy you can sort of 
guess when it needs to be recharged by how often you used it. Of course you 
don't need anything to tell you when the phone is charged since you can check 
at the top right where the battery indicator is to see how much your phone is 
charged.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Amy Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:19 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: portalbe battery chargers

Hi all I had a my charge peak I used with my Iphone 4s. Now I've upgraded to 
Iphone 6 and plugged the charging cord into it since it doesn't have one built 
in and it hasn't worked as good since.  It doesn't want to stay charging my 
phone.  Does anyone know of another charger similar to this one that talks and 
tells you when it is charged and or your phone is charged? Thanks

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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have always noticed that when the discussion about voices comes up especially 
with an app like Voice Dream where there are lots of options you ask 10 people 
and you probably get 8 different answers.
Voices are super subjective, I do like Tom, but still use Samantha Enhanced 
maybe simply because I'm used to her just as I prefer Eloquence for use with 
Jaws even though the high quality voices available are also very responsive and 
all. I'm not saying one can't ask for the opinion of others, but in the end you 
just have to try all of them out for yourself and decide what you like.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Casey
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
phone?
I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
responsive.
So that is why all of the questions.


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portalbe battery chargers

[Amy Johnson]

Hi all I had a my charge peak I used with my Iphone 4s. Now I've
upgraded to Iphone 6 and plugged the charging cord into it since it
doesn't have one built in and it hasn't worked as good since.  It
doesn't want to stay charging my phone.  Does anyone know of another
charger similar to this one that talks and tells you when it is
charged and or your phone is charged? Thanks

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RE: Messages... adding an effect?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As it was pointed out numerous times now, you must turn off Reduced Motion in 
Accessibility settings. I guess these effects require this to be off for them 
to produced the desired visual effects.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?


Hi!

Just to eliminate some doubts.

I have 6S Plus with 3D Touch enabled and I'm not able to send effects.

Friend of mine has an oldie 5S and she is doing it. She tried to explain the 
procedure but I can't reproduce it. Can someone from here who is able to do 
this explain the procedure step by step?

Thanks!



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15.9.2016. u 21:18, Devin Prater je napisao/la:
Yep. Hmm, wonder if restarting the phone will help? Writing this on my laptop 
right now, will check and see if that works later. Just an idea though. I have 
a regular 6. I know it should work, as it worked during the beta.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jenifer Barr 
mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi.
All messages sent to these contacts are iMessages. I've double checked before 
sending this email.

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Daniel L. Gervais 
mailto:daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca>> 
wrote:
Hi,

Even if you label their cell numbers in your contacts app as being an
iPhone, that is not what the phone uses to determine if the recipient of
your text has an iPhone.  I believe someone on the list said something
that the phone will just know based off of the telephone number.

It also depends on whether or not the person has turned on iMessage in
the settings and whether or not they've setup their cell number to
receive iMessages.  I have a friend who has a iPhone and when I send him
a message, it is a text message and not an iMessage.  I found the
easiest way to know is to, either compose a new message to the person,
or if you have an existing conversation, open it, and when you double
tap on the edit box at the bottom to type your message, VoiceOver will
say whether it is a text message or iMessage.

Hope this helps!


From:Jenifer Barr mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>>
To:mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Date:2016/09/15 11:30 AM
Subject:Re: Messages... adding an effect?

All contacts I am trying to send effects too are labeled iPhone.

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Chip Orange 
mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>>
wrote:


For it to work, the sender must show the recipient’s mobile number
as being an Iphone number, not a mobile number; that’s what allows the
Iphone to try and use Imessage.


Hth,

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Mader

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?

Does this work on iPhone 5s? Or does it have to be a six or 6+? I
cannot get it to work at all. Thanks


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Devin Prater 
mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>>
wrote:


You can only add effects to iMessages. I know, sucky for those who
don't have iMessage, or all of us who have friends who just happen to
not be on Apple devices, but yeah. I can't figure out how to emojify
words and such, emoji replacements for words in messages where words can
be replaced by an emoji.


Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Jenifer Barr 
mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi all.
I can't figure this out for the life of me! Lol. I'm trying to add an
effect to a text message, but when I force touch the send button... or
double tap and hold on the send button... the message gets sent.



Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
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RE: Messages... adding an effect?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, the Reduce Motion definitely has to be off and this does not only apply to 
Voiceover users. My store manager just said that both him and his girl-friend 
upgraded to iOS 10 and she could use effects and he could not and receiving 
effects messages for him just appeared as normal messages with a description 
that the message was sent "with balloons" or "with fireworks". He does not use 
Voiceover, but he had reduced motion on, as soon as he turned it off everything 
worked as advertised.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Messages... adding an effect?

I very much appreciate this message. I finally know after several hours of 
playing with messages why I was unable to send a successful effect. I have 
reduced motion turned on. Thanks for this very useful information.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?

This was posted to another group. Sharing because I thought that others would 
find the info helpful.


 A Guide to iMessage in iOS 10   Recently updated !
This entry was posted by Jessica

Apple crammed loads of new features into iMessage in iOS 10, which add a lot of 
additional functionality, making the app more fun and social. However, learning 
what all the new features are and how they work may be difficult for some 
users. We hope this post will help you understand the new features, and have 
you using them (or avoiding them) like a pro within minutes.
Look and Feel

First of all, the look of iMessage is a little bit different. You now have 
photos of contacts at the top of each conversation thread. This is true for 
individual iMessage conversations, and for groups. The back button is still at 
the top, and the “more info” button is at the top right. At the bottom of the 
screen, the “Send” button and text field have been made smaller to make room 
for three buttons. Note: Although the send button still functions as it always 
has, it is smaller in size, and it is now an up arrow instead of the word send. 
This means it is a bit harder to find for VoiceOver users, and may confuse some 
low vision users. The three buttons to the left of the text field are: “Attach 
Media, Digital Touch, and Messaging apps.
More Info Screen

The “more info” button, which replaces iOS 9’s “details” button will take you 
to a screen that is similar in some ways, but there are some things to note. On 
this screen, you can now toggle read receipts for individual conversations, and 
you can sort attachments if you are looking for a particular image or link. As 
always, this is also where you can see the location of people in a group or 
conversation, contact a person you are talking to, add someone to your 
contacts, add a contact to the conversation, and rename the conversation. To 
return to the iMessage conversation, simply tap “Done” in the top right-hand 
corner.
Media Attachments

Attaching photos and videos is now done with the “attach media” button at the 
bottom of any iMessage thread. Tapping on this button will bring you to a 
screen containing your photos and videos, and allow you to take a new photo or 
video. Once you have chosen an image or video, you can add effects, draw, and 
more.
Digital Touch

The second button is a “Digital Touch” button. Here you can send a heart beat, 
or a quick doodle to a friend. It does seem accessible if you would like to try 
it out. Additionally, if you would like to handwrite a message, to make it more 
personal, you can do so by switching to landscape in your iMessage thread. Note 
for VoiceOver users: there are some text snippets available, which you can 
easily add to any conversation.
iMessage Apps

The third button to the left of the text field is “Messaging apps..” We will 
have more about this section in the future, but here you will find anything 
from stickers, to games, to collaboration tools, and much more. Some 
interesting examples of iMessage apps include an app that allows you to 
collaborate on a food order with friends, and an app that allows you to quickly 
and securely send money. It will be very exciting to see what developers do 
with iMessage apps in the future.
Reactions

Most of the time, you will want to quickly send a message to someone, and that 
still works as it always has. In fact, if you are really in a hurry, but want 
to let someone know you received their message, you can do so with iMessage 
reactions. Simply tap and hold on a message, and you will be given the option 
to Love, Like, Dislike, Laugh, emphasize, or Question it. This is also where 
you can copy a message, or tap more to forward or delete it. If you are using 
VoiceOver, rotate to “Actions

Re: Messages... adding an effect?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thank you so much for this guide... answered my question about imojes. If there 
is more than one word though to be replaced... how do I go to the next one? I'm 
still on the first word even when I replaced it with the imoje it suggested. 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> This was posted to another group. Sharing because I thought that others would 
> find the info helpful. 
> 
>>  A Guide to iMessage in iOS 10   Recently updated !
>> This entry was posted by Jessica
>> 
>> Apple crammed loads of new features into iMessage in iOS 10, which add a lot 
>> of additional functionality, making the app more fun and social. However, 
>> learning what all the new features are and how they work may be difficult 
>> for some users. We hope this post will help you understand the new features, 
>> and have you using them (or avoiding them) like a pro within minutes.
>> Look and Feel
>> 
>> First of all, the look of iMessage is a little bit different. You now have 
>> photos of contacts at the top of each conversation thread. This is true for 
>> individual iMessage conversations, and for groups. The back button is still 
>> at the top, and the “more info” button is at the top right. At the bottom of 
>> the screen, the “Send” button and text field have been made smaller to make 
>> room for three buttons. Note: Although the send button still functions as it 
>> always has, it is smaller in size, and it is now an up arrow instead of the 
>> word send. This means it is a bit harder to find for VoiceOver users, and 
>> may confuse some low vision users. The three buttons to the left of the text 
>> field are: “Attach Media, Digital Touch, and Messaging apps.
>> More Info Screen
>> 
>> The “more info” button, which replaces iOS 9’s “details” button will take 
>> you to a screen that is similar in some ways, but there are some things to 
>> note. On this screen, you can now toggle read receipts for individual 
>> conversations, and you can sort attachments if you are looking for a 
>> particular image or link. As always, this is also where you can see the 
>> location of people in a group or conversation, contact a person you are 
>> talking to, add someone to your contacts, add a contact to the conversation, 
>> and rename the conversation. To return to the iMessage conversation, simply 
>> tap “Done” in the top right-hand corner.
>> Media Attachments
>> 
>> Attaching photos and videos is now done with the “attach media” button at 
>> the bottom of any iMessage thread. Tapping on this button will bring you to 
>> a screen containing your photos and videos, and allow you to take a new 
>> photo or video. Once you have chosen an image or video, you can add effects, 
>> draw, and more.
>> Digital Touch
>> 
>> The second button is a “Digital Touch” button. Here you can send a heart 
>> beat, or a quick doodle to a friend. It does seem accessible if you would 
>> like to try it out. Additionally, if you would like to handwrite a message, 
>> to make it more personal, you can do so by switching to landscape in your 
>> iMessage thread. Note for VoiceOver users: there are some text snippets 
>> available, which you can easily add to any conversation.
>> iMessage Apps
>> 
>> The third button to the left of the text field is “Messaging apps..” We will 
>> have more about this section in the future, but here you will find anything 
>> from stickers, to games, to collaboration tools, and much more. Some 
>> interesting examples of iMessage apps include an app that allows you to 
>> collaborate on a food order with friends, and an app that allows you to 
>> quickly and securely send money. It will be very exciting to see what 
>> developers do with iMessage apps in the future.
>> Reactions
>> 
>> Most of the time, you will want to quickly send a message to someone, and 
>> that still works as it always has. In fact, if you are really in a hurry, 
>> but want to let someone know you received their message, you can do so with 
>> iMessage reactions. Simply tap and hold on a message, and you will be given 
>> the option to Love, Like, Dislike, Laugh, emphasize, or Question it. This is 
>> also where you can copy a message, or tap more to forward or delete it. If 
>> you are using VoiceOver, rotate to “Actions” in the rotor and flick down to 
>> “react.” Double tap, and you will be presented with the same screen 
>> described above.
>> Emoji Substitutions
>> 
>> Once you’ve entered text in the iMessage field, you can easily replace words 
>> with emoji, and there are even emoji in the text predictions bar above the 
>> keyboard. To replace words with emoji after you’ve entered text, tap on the 
>> “Next Keyboard” button until you find the emoji keyboard. Now, any words 
>> that can be replaced with emoji will be highlighted. If you tap on a word, 
>> you will then have options to choose from. For VoiceOver users, tap on the 
>> text field. VoiceOver should say “

RE: Messages... adding an effect?

[Merv Keck]

I very much appreciate this message. I finally know after several hours of 
playing with messages why I was unable to send a successful effect. I have 
reduced motion turned on. Thanks for this very useful information.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?

 

This was posted to another group. Sharing because I thought that others would 
find the info helpful. 





 A Guide to iMessage in iOS 10   Recently updated !
This entry was posted by Jessica

Apple crammed loads of new features into iMessage in iOS 10, which add a lot of 
additional functionality, making the app more fun and social. However, learning 
what all the new features are and how they work may be difficult for some 
users. We hope this post will help you understand the new features, and have 
you using them (or avoiding them) like a pro within minutes.
Look and Feel

First of all, the look of iMessage is a little bit different. You now have 
photos of contacts at the top of each conversation thread. This is true for 
individual iMessage conversations, and for groups. The back button is still at 
the top, and the “more info” button is at the top right. At the bottom of the 
screen, the “Send” button and text field have been made smaller to make room 
for three buttons. Note: Although the send button still functions as it always 
has, it is smaller in size, and it is now an up arrow instead of the word send. 
This means it is a bit harder to find for VoiceOver users, and may confuse some 
low vision users. The three buttons to the left of the text field are: “Attach 
Media, Digital Touch, and Messaging apps.
More Info Screen

The “more info” button, which replaces iOS 9’s “details” button will take you 
to a screen that is similar in some ways, but there are some things to note. On 
this screen, you can now toggle read receipts for individual conversations, and 
you can sort attachments if you are looking for a particular image or link. As 
always, this is also where you can see the location of people in a group or 
conversation, contact a person you are talking to, add someone to your 
contacts, add a contact to the conversation, and rename the conversation. To 
return to the iMessage conversation, simply tap “Done” in the top right-hand 
corner.
Media Attachments

Attaching photos and videos is now done with the “attach media” button at the 
bottom of any iMessage thread. Tapping on this button will bring you to a 
screen containing your photos and videos, and allow you to take a new photo or 
video. Once you have chosen an image or video, you can add effects, draw, and 
more.
Digital Touch

The second button is a “Digital Touch” button. Here you can send a heart beat, 
or a quick doodle to a friend. It does seem accessible if you would like to try 
it out. Additionally, if you would like to handwrite a message, to make it more 
personal, you can do so by switching to landscape in your iMessage thread. Note 
for VoiceOver users: there are some text snippets available, which you can 
easily add to any conversation.
iMessage Apps

The third button to the left of the text field is “Messaging apps..” We will 
have more about this section in the future, but here you will find anything 
from stickers, to games, to collaboration tools, and much more. Some 
interesting examples of iMessage apps include an app that allows you to 
collaborate on a food order with friends, and an app that allows you to quickly 
and securely send money. It will be very exciting to see what developers do 
with iMessage apps in the future.
Reactions

Most of the time, you will want to quickly send a message to someone, and that 
still works as it always has. In fact, if you are really in a hurry, but want 
to let someone know you received their message, you can do so with iMessage 
reactions. Simply tap and hold on a message, and you will be given the option 
to Love, Like, Dislike, Laugh, emphasize, or Question it. This is also where 
you can copy a message, or tap more to forward or delete it. If you are using 
VoiceOver, rotate to “Actions” in the rotor and flick down to “react.” Double 
tap, and you will be presented with the same screen described above.
Emoji Substitutions

Once you’ve entered text in the iMessage field, you can easily replace words 
with emoji, and there are even emoji in the text predictions bar above the 
keyboard. To replace words with emoji after you’ve entered text, tap on the 
“Next Keyboard” button until you find the emoji keyboard. Now, any words that 
can be replaced with emoji will be highlighted. If you tap on a word, you will 
then have options to choose from. For VoiceOver users, tap on the text field. 
VoiceOver should say “Emoji substitutions available.” Rotate to “Emoji” in the 
rotor, and flick down until you find the word you want to replace. Double tap, 
and you wil

Re: Money reader

[Alan Lemly]

Nant makes it but I found it by searching money reader in the apps store. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:50 PM, brian albriton  wrote:
> 
> Who makes the look tell myoung reader now? I want to reinstall it and I don't 
> find it in the app store. 
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Re: Messages... adding an effect?

[Donna]

This was posted to another group. Sharing because I thought that others would 
find the info helpful. 
> 
>  A Guide to iMessage in iOS 10   Recently updated !
> This entry was posted by Jessica
> 
> Apple crammed loads of new features into iMessage in iOS 10, which add a lot 
> of additional functionality, making the app more fun and social. However, 
> learning what all the new features are and how they work may be difficult for 
> some users. We hope this post will help you understand the new features, and 
> have you using them (or avoiding them) like a pro within minutes.
> Look and Feel
> 
> First of all, the look of iMessage is a little bit different. You now have 
> photos of contacts at the top of each conversation thread. This is true for 
> individual iMessage conversations, and for groups. The back button is still 
> at the top, and the “more info” button is at the top right. At the bottom of 
> the screen, the “Send” button and text field have been made smaller to make 
> room for three buttons. Note: Although the send button still functions as it 
> always has, it is smaller in size, and it is now an up arrow instead of the 
> word send. This means it is a bit harder to find for VoiceOver users, and may 
> confuse some low vision users. The three buttons to the left of the text 
> field are: “Attach Media, Digital Touch, and Messaging apps.
> More Info Screen
> 
> The “more info” button, which replaces iOS 9’s “details” button will take you 
> to a screen that is similar in some ways, but there are some things to note. 
> On this screen, you can now toggle read receipts for individual 
> conversations, and you can sort attachments if you are looking for a 
> particular image or link. As always, this is also where you can see the 
> location of people in a group or conversation, contact a person you are 
> talking to, add someone to your contacts, add a contact to the conversation, 
> and rename the conversation. To return to the iMessage conversation, simply 
> tap “Done” in the top right-hand corner.
> Media Attachments
> 
> Attaching photos and videos is now done with the “attach media” button at the 
> bottom of any iMessage thread. Tapping on this button will bring you to a 
> screen containing your photos and videos, and allow you to take a new photo 
> or video. Once you have chosen an image or video, you can add effects, draw, 
> and more.
> Digital Touch
> 
> The second button is a “Digital Touch” button. Here you can send a heart 
> beat, or a quick doodle to a friend. It does seem accessible if you would 
> like to try it out. Additionally, if you would like to handwrite a message, 
> to make it more personal, you can do so by switching to landscape in your 
> iMessage thread. Note for VoiceOver users: there are some text snippets 
> available, which you can easily add to any conversation.
> iMessage Apps
> 
> The third button to the left of the text field is “Messaging apps..” We will 
> have more about this section in the future, but here you will find anything 
> from stickers, to games, to collaboration tools, and much more. Some 
> interesting examples of iMessage apps include an app that allows you to 
> collaborate on a food order with friends, and an app that allows you to 
> quickly and securely send money. It will be very exciting to see what 
> developers do with iMessage apps in the future.
> Reactions
> 
> Most of the time, you will want to quickly send a message to someone, and 
> that still works as it always has. In fact, if you are really in a hurry, but 
> want to let someone know you received their message, you can do so with 
> iMessage reactions. Simply tap and hold on a message, and you will be given 
> the option to Love, Like, Dislike, Laugh, emphasize, or Question it. This is 
> also where you can copy a message, or tap more to forward or delete it. If 
> you are using VoiceOver, rotate to “Actions” in the rotor and flick down to 
> “react.” Double tap, and you will be presented with the same screen described 
> above.
> Emoji Substitutions
> 
> Once you’ve entered text in the iMessage field, you can easily replace words 
> with emoji, and there are even emoji in the text predictions bar above the 
> keyboard. To replace words with emoji after you’ve entered text, tap on the 
> “Next Keyboard” button until you find the emoji keyboard. Now, any words that 
> can be replaced with emoji will be highlighted. If you tap on a word, you 
> will then have options to choose from. For VoiceOver users, tap on the text 
> field. VoiceOver should say “Emoji substitutions available.” Rotate to 
> “Emoji” in the rotor, and flick down until you find the word you want to 
> replace. Double tap, and you will be presented with the options available for 
> emoji replacement. If there is only one emoji suggested, it will 
> automatically be inserted for you when you tap on a word..
> iMessage Effects
> 
> Lastly, you can send any message with an effect. This includes “bubble 
> 

RE: iMessage screen effects are working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have a 6S Plus and either double tap and hold or 3D Touch seems to work the 
same.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working


Hi!

I'll confirm on this one so you can disregard my last message in another thread.

As I know, if you have iPhone without 3D Touch you need to double tap and hold 
and if you do have 3D Touch you need to force it down, double tap and hold wont 
work on 3D Touch enabled models.

When you activate the effects menu (sort of) you have a choice between screen 
and balloon. I apologise if the translations are not correct. Screen choice 
means effect in full screen mode while balloon effects means a balloon 
animation or something.

Depending on a chosen option there are different effect lists. In first case 
there is a list with crash, loud, gentle, invisible ink etc displayed as a list.

In second case you need to find a picker with several effects and after you 
flick the desired effect you need to hit the send button.

I have some sight left and from what I saw, this effects, especially full 
screen ones are really crazy andsightedfolks are gonna love it.



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15.9.2016. u 21:58, Sieghard Weitzel je napisao/la:

Interesting, this does definitely work, on my 6S Plus a 3D force touch also 
brought up the effects with Reduced Motion turned off.

It still seems strange though because the first two, Bubbles and Scream are 
announced as 1 of 2 and 2 of 2, all the other ones are not announced this way 
and Bubbles says it's selected. I sent a message to my wife and double tapped 
on "Gentle", then after I did this "Gentle was gone from the list but Bubbles 
also still said "Selected".

There then was a Sent button and I tapped it and Voiceover gave some sort of 
explanation, but when I went back to review the message it did not say anything.

My wife whose 6S is not yet upgraded said it just says "sent with gentle 
effect" but I guess for the effects to actually show as intended it is not 
enough for the recipient to have iMessage, they must also be on iOS 10.

Lastly, I discovered that if you swipe down on a message there is now a 
"Reaction" option part of the rotor, double tap on this and you can give the 
message a thumbs up, thumbs down, "HaHa" and some other stuff. I did this to 
her reply and it then said that I "liked" her message, seems to be similar to 
how you can react to posts of Facebook.



Regards,

Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Lewis

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:36 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working



You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just sends. I 
generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down performance with 
some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to turn it off and on while 
you send a message.



On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson 
 wrote:

Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for

me. I double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I

lift my finger, the message is sent.



Suzanne







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Behalf Of Lynette frison

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: iMessage screen effects are working



Hi all,



For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible

ink, balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce

motion in accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message,

double tap and hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop

up. I just tried this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and

voiceover even announced the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there

was a way to make digital touch features more accessible, like if

someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO could

announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or

handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd 
have a better idea what was being sent.



Lynette





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Money reader

[brian albriton]

Who makes the look tell myoung reader now? I want to reinstall it and I don't 
find it in the app store. 

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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Jenifer Barr]

Lynette!!! 
You're awesome!!! But, my next question? How do I get past the invisible ink, 
scream, etc and get to the shooting star, fireworks etc? I have friends that 
have sent those to me but I haven't had any luck viewing them. Now that I can 
send the effects I wanna send them back like the ones they're sending me. 
Again, thank you so much!! 

Jenifer Barr
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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just
> sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down
> performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to
> turn it off and on while you send a message.
> 
>> On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
>> Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. I
>> double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my finger,
>> the message is sent.
>> 
>> Suzanne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Lynette frison
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink,
>> balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in
>> accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and
>> hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried
>> this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced
>> the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch
>> features more accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it
>> would be nice if VO could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to
>> interpret a sketch or handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap,
>> etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.
>> 
>> Lynette
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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imoje's as replacement for words... how?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I read that imoje's can replace words? Is this only in iMessages? Or in any 
text field? Also, how do I find where to insert them in a block of text I've 
written? 
Thanks.


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

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I'm still using compact Samantha, though I've added enhanced Ava to my rotor. 
Out of all the new voices, I like her the best. Kate has a really weird upward 
inflection with commas, otherwise I'd like her If I NeoSpeech ever came to iOS, 
though, I'd ditch Samantha and Ava for Kate in a heartbeat, with James as my 
secondary US voice.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> MyChoice iOS10 TTS Voice IS Ava ON My VZW iPhoneSE & TTS Voice Alex ON My VZW 
> iPhone6 & TTS Voice Samantha ON My VZW iPhone4S
> 
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>> phone?
>> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
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Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have your phoen unlock

[englishrider91]

Head over to Settings/General/Accessibility/Home Button. You'll find the rest 
to unlock setting in there. You want to turn that on. The quickest way to get 
to the Home Button button in the accessibility settings is to set your rotor to 
headings and flick down until you get to the hearing heading, then flick left 
twice.


Thanks, Ari

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Casey  wrote:
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> Hi in the new IS how do you make the home button.
> So that when you phone is locked you and just press it or touch it and have 
> it unlock in your phone?
> Cause now when you unlock your phone you press the home button and then it 
> says press the home button to unlock your phone to unlock.
> So how do you adjust this to have it the way it used to be?
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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Robin]

MyChoice iOS10 TTS Voice IS Ava ON My VZW iPhoneSE & TTS Voice Alex 
ON My VZW iPhone6 & TTS Voice Samantha ON My VZW iPhone4S


At 03:24 PM 9/15/2016, you wrote:

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use 
with your phone?

I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and 
more responsive.

So that is why all of the questions.


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Rajmund]

Hi, if that happened, I'd use Tracy from Acapela, I think...



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Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 
10

>
>
> I am still using Alex. And I still have Samantha as a back up for US English, 
> although I really don't use her. She's just there because she's there. I have 
> listened to the other US English voices, and don't find I prefer any of them 
> over what we had previously. If I had what I really would like to have, we 
> would get access to our voice dream voices and I could use Kendra or James. 
> But no such luck.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi. I am still using Alex, but I have also selected Tom as a backup. I like 
> > Tom because he is a louder voice and more distinct in his speech. I'm very 
> > hard of hearing so Tom works well for me.
> > 
> > Wayne Merritt
> > Sent from my iPhone 6S
> > 
> >> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Casey  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> >> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with 
> >> your phone?
> >> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> >> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
> >> responsive.
> >> So that is why all of the questions.
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>  I am still using Alex. And I still have Samantha as a back up for US 
> English, although I really don't use her. She's just there because she's 
> there. I have listened to the other US English voices, and don't find I 
> prefer any of them over what we had previously. If I had what I really would 
> like to have, we would get access to our voice dream voices and I could use 
> Kendra or James. But no such luck.
> Mary
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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Kate enhanced, punctuation off, 100% speech rate.



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Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:24 pm
Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

>
>
> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with 
> your phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
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> 
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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[BBS]

Hi. I still have Alex as my default voice but for my rotor voices I like Tom 
and the Australian Lee voice. But what I really want is the new Zoe voice. Oh 
well, maybe on iOS 11 she'll come.

 

 

Shawn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 
10

 

 I am still using Alex. And I still have Samantha as a back up for US English, 
although I really don't use her. She's just there because she's there. I have 
listened to the other US English voices, and don't find I prefer any of them 
over what we had previously. If I had what I really would like to have, we 
would get access to our voice dream voices and I could use Kendra or James. But 
no such luck.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Hi. I am still using Alex, but I have also selected Tom as a backup. I like Tom 
because he is a louder voice and more distinct in his speech. I'm very hard of 
hearing so Tom works well for me.

 

Wayne Merritt

Sent from my iPhone 6S


On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Casey  wrote:

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
phone?
I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
responsive.
So that is why all of the questions.


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Mary Otten]

 I am still using Alex. And I still have Samantha as a back up for US English, 
although I really don't use her. She's just there because she's there. I have 
listened to the other US English voices, and don't find I prefer any of them 
over what we had previously. If I had what I really would like to have, we 
would get access to our voice dream voices and I could use Kendra or James. But 
no such luck.
Mary


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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I am still using Alex, but I have also selected Tom as a backup. I like 
> Tom because he is a louder voice and more distinct in his speech. I'm very 
> hard of hearing so Tom works well for me.
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone 6S
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Casey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
>> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
>> phone?
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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I'll confirm on this one so you can disregard my last message in
  another thread.
As I know, if you have iPhone without 3D Touch you need to double
  tap and hold and if you do have 3D Touch you need to force it
  down, double tap and hold wont work on 3D Touch enabled models.
When you activate the effects menu (sort of) you have a choice
  between screen and balloon. I apologise if the translations are
  not correct. Screen choice means effect in full screen mode while
  balloon effects means a balloon animation or something.
Depending on a chosen option there are different effect lists. In
  first case there is a list with crash, loud, gentle, invisible ink
  etc displayed as a list.
In second case you need to find a picker with several effects and
  after you flick the desired effect you need to hit the send
  button.
I have some sight left and from what I saw, this effects,
  especially full screen ones are really crazy andsightedfolks are
  gonna love it.



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15.9.2016. u 21:58, Sieghard Weitzel je
  napisao/la:


  Interesting, this does definitely work, on my 6S Plus a 3D force touch also brought up the effects with Reduced Motion turned off.
It still seems strange though because the first two, Bubbles and Scream are announced as 1 of 2 and 2 of 2, all the other ones are not announced this way and Bubbles says it's selected. I sent a message to my wife and double tapped on "Gentle", then after I did this "Gentle was gone from the list but Bubbles also still said "Selected".
There then was a Sent button and I tapped it and Voiceover gave some sort of explanation, but when I went back to review the message it did not say anything.
My wife whose 6S is not yet upgraded said it just says "sent with gentle effect" but I guess for the effects to actually show as intended it is not enough for the recipient to have iMessage, they must also be on iOS 10.
Lastly, I discovered that if you swipe down on a message there is now a "Reaction" option part of the rotor, double tap on this and you can give the message a thumbs up, thumbs down, "HaHa" and some other stuff. I did this to her reply and it then said that I "liked" her message, seems to be similar to how you can react to posts of Facebook.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Lewis
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working

You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to turn it off and on while you send a message.

On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:

  
Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for 
me. I double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I 
lift my finger, the message is sent.

Suzanne



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Lynette frison
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessage screen effects are working

Hi all,

For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible 
ink, balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce 
motion in accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, 
double tap and hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop 
up. I just tried this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and 
voiceover even announced the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there 
was a way to make digital touch features more accessible, like if 
someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO could 
announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or 
handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.

Lynette


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I am still using Alex, but I have also selected Tom as a backup. I like Tom 
because he is a louder voice and more distinct in his speech. I'm very hard of 
hearing so Tom works well for me.

Wayne Merritt
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> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
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> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
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RE: ring tones in IOS 10

[BBS]

Yeah that and the new key clicks.


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Subject: Re: ring tones in IOS 10

Hello Casey,
No, there are no new ring tones in iOS10. The only sounds which have
changed are the lock sounds when one presses the power button once on
their device to put it into sleep mode.


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what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Casey]

Hi now since IS 10 is out.
What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with 
your phone?

I was using Alex and am using him again now.
But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
responsive.

So that is why all of the questions.


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Re: Watch OS 3.0 - Viration time!

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

If you triple tap you will only get the minutes of the time, double tap you 
will get the full time.

I hope this helps,

Ed
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:02 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> It was already on and set to digits on my watch now running watchOS 3. It 
> might be me though, but I am getting inconsistencies. Sometimes I get the 
> full pattern, sometimes I get just the minutes, other times though I just get 
> the time spoken, no haptic feedback. Again though it’s probably me while I 
> get accustomed to the very useful feature.
>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:22, Timothy Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Claudio and folks, I just updated to Watch OS 3, and I can't figure out 
>> the haptic time as described here. Is there something I need enabled? Just 
>> curious. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The preview doesn't work in iOS 10 even with hints on.
>>> It could be this three finger tap is the solution.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Claudio Levantini  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 The best new feature in Watch OS 3.0 is the "Vibration time".
 This is not the official name.
 With Voice Over on and the screen locked, tap twice on the watch.
 It buz like a morse signal.
 Teh code is very simple:
 long vibrations stand for 10 unit;
 short vibrations stand for 1 unit.
 Examples:
 12.05 (1 logng, 2 shorts, pause, 5 shorts)
 23.59 (2 longs, 3 shorts, pause 5 longs, 9 shorts)
 
 For me it's a very beatiful mode, useful when it is not so  polite to 
 speech the time.
 
 Regards.
 Claudio
 
 
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Re: Messages... adding an effect?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Just to eliminate some doubts.
I have 6S Plus with 3D Touch enabled and I'm not able to send
  effects.
Friend of mine has an oldie 5S and she is doing it. She tried to
  explain the procedure but I can't reproduce it. Can someone from
  here who is able to do this explain the procedure step by step?
Thanks!



  S poštovanjem
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15.9.2016. u 21:18, Devin Prater je
  napisao/la:


  Yep. Hmm, wonder if restarting the phone will help?
Writing this on my laptop right now, will check and see if that
works later. Just an idea though. I have a regular 6. I know it
should work, as it worked during the beta.
  
  

  

  
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
  

  


On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM,
  Jenifer Barr 
  wrote:
  

  
Hi. 
All messages sent to
  these contacts are iMessages. I've double checked
  before sending this email. 

  Jenifer Barr
  Jenifer571 on dice world
  Sent from my iPhone

  

  
On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Daniel L. Gervais 
wrote:

  
  
Hi,
  
  Even if you label their cell numbers in your
contacts app as being an
  iPhone, that is not what the phone uses to
determine if the recipient of
  your text has an iPhone.  I believe someone
on the list said something
  that the phone will just know based off of
the telephone number.
  
  It also depends on whether or not the person
has turned on iMessage in
  the settings and whether or not they've
setup their cell number to
  receive iMessages.  I have a friend who has
a iPhone and when I send him
  a message, it is a text message and not an
iMessage.  I found the
  easiest way to know is to, either compose a
new message to the person,
  or if you have an existing conversation,
open it, and when you double
  tap on the edit box at the bottom to type
your message, VoiceOver will
  say whether it is a text message or
iMessage.
  
  Hope this helps!
  
  
  From:    Jenifer Barr 
  To:    
  Date:    2016/09/15 11:30 AM
  Subject:    Re: Messages... adding an
effect?
  
  All contacts I am trying to send effects too
are labeled iPhone. 
  
  Jenifer Barr
  Jenifer571 on dice world
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Sep 14, 2016, at
  7:53 PM, Chip Orange 
  
  wrote:
  
  
  For it to work, the
  sender must show the recipient’s mobile number
  
  as being an Iphone number, not a mobile
number; that’s what allows the
  Iphone to try and use Imessage.
  
  
  Hth,
  
  
  
  Chip
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The theory is that when you reset network settings, the phone does a more 
complete reboot than usual, so you're less likely to have an odd setting 
interfere with the update process. People have reported resetting network 
settings fixing lots of bizarre issues from time to time.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to upgrade my iPad Mini 4 soon. I decided to avoid the rush. I 
> understand the backing up and closing all apps with the app switcher, but why 
> reset network settings? My wi-fi connection is working fine now. What is the 
> purpose of resetting it?
> Thanks.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now
> 
> And to add to Anna's comment I can say that I upgraded my wife's old iPhone 6 
> which we want to sell since she now has a 6S and it went beautifully and 
> without a hitch.
> I did this last night, it told me the update was 1.1 Gb (for my 6S Plus I 
> seem to remember it was much larger) and it downloaded in about 4 minutes, 
> the update itself took about 15 minutes and it was all done.
> I did, however, do my usual preparation: backup, close all apps from the app 
> switcher and do a Reset Network Settings. Then I reconnected to Wi-Fi, 
> renamed the phone's name back to Jackie's iPhone 6 since a reset network 
> settings will change whatever you had named it to simply "iPhone" and then I 
> did the update.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
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> Woody Anna Dresner
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> The various sites said yesterday evening that updating over the air was now 
> safe.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Casey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I would like to upgrade my phone to the latest IoS.
>> Is it safe to do over the air now or is it better to still connect up to 
>> Itunes and do it that way?
>> 
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Re: Voiceover Broken on IOS 10 for iPad 4 Retina Display

[Rajmund]

Hi, check with sighted help, what your voice or TTS is, under settings general, 
accessibility, voice over, speech. Go voice xx, and put it to a default voice. 
While it is unlikely, it could be that your chosen voice is not available. As I 
say, unlikely, but you might as well try.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:44 pm
Subject: Voiceover Broken on IOS 10 for iPad 4 Retina Display

>
>
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I just upgraded my iPad 4 Retina Display to IOS 10.
> 
> However, my Voiceover doesn't speak. It just makes the sound effects 
> when I swipe right or left or double tap as if I turned off speech with 
> three finger double tap.
> 
> However, I did not turn off the speech, and I tried to turn it back on 
> anyways. I also tried to turn on and off Voiceover as well as reboot, 
> but it still doesn't speak.
> 
> Any suggestion for me to try would be appreciated!
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> 
> J
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RE: Voiceover Broken on IOS 10 for iPad 4 Retina Display

[Mr. Ed]

Try rebooting the device.

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James Lee
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover Broken on IOS 10 for iPad 4 Retina Display

Hello,


I just upgraded my iPad 4 Retina Display to IOS 10.

However, my Voiceover doesn't speak. It just makes the sound effects when I 
swipe right or left or double tap as if I turned off speech with three finger 
double tap.

However, I did not turn off the speech, and I tried to turn it back on anyways. 
I also tried to turn on and off Voiceover as well as reboot, but it still 
doesn't speak.

Any suggestion for me to try would be appreciated!

Thank you in advance.


J

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Voiceover Broken on IOS 10 for iPad 4 Retina Display

[James Lee]

Hello,


I just upgraded my iPad 4 Retina Display to IOS 10.

However, my Voiceover doesn't speak. It just makes the sound effects 
when I swipe right or left or double tap as if I turned off speech with 
three finger double tap.


However, I did not turn off the speech, and I tried to turn it back on 
anyways. I also tried to turn on and off Voiceover as well as reboot, 
but it still doesn't speak.


Any suggestion for me to try would be appreciated!

Thank you in advance.


J

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Re: Photos no difference.

[Jim Fettgather]

I have found this photo description to be kind of hit and miss.  When
I scroll through my photo library, I am always told of the existence
of faces, and occasionally objects, one identified a pack of
cigarettes, I have no idea where that came from!
However, no pictures of contacts have identified as of yet.
I'll try taking some additional photos to see if that makes a difference.

On 9/15/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I thought the pictures one already had taken would be described in more
> detail? I thought one could browse through the library of pictures and vo
> would say in more depth what the picture was? Am I incorrect?
> Thanks
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
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Re: ring tones in IOS 10

[Rajmund]

Hi, and keyboard sounds.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: ring tones in IOS 10

>
>
> Hello Casey,
> No, there are no new ring tones in iOS10. The only sounds which have
> changed are the lock sounds when one presses the power button once on
> their device to put it into sleep mode.
> 
> 
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Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

[Evan Reese]

I'd like to upgrade my iPad Mini 4 soon. I decided to avoid the rush. I 
understand the backing up and closing all apps with the app switcher, but 
why reset network settings? My wi-fi connection is working fine now. What is 
the purpose of resetting it?

Thanks.
Evan

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From: Sieghard Weitzel

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

And to add to Anna's comment I can say that I upgraded my wife's old iPhone 
6 which we want to sell since she now has a 6S and it went beautifully and 
without a hitch.
I did this last night, it told me the update was 1.1 Gb (for my 6S Plus I 
seem to remember it was much larger) and it downloaded in about 4 minutes, 
the update itself took about 15 minutes and it was all done.
I did, however, do my usual preparation: backup, close all apps from the app 
switcher and do a Reset Network Settings. Then I reconnected to Wi-Fi, 
renamed the phone's name back to Jackie's iPhone 6 since a reset network 
settings will change whatever you had named it to simply "iPhone" and then I 
did the update.



Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upgrading the iPhone over the air can you safely do this now

Hi,

The various sites said yesterday evening that updating over the air was now 
safe.


Best,
Anna




On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Casey  wrote:

Hi I would like to upgrade my phone to the latest IoS.
Is it safe to do over the air now or is it better to still connect up to 
Itunes and do it that way?



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Re: ring tones in IOS 10

[Shai]

Hello Casey,
No, there are no new ring tones in iOS10. The only sounds which have
changed are the lock sounds when one presses the power button once on
their device to put it into sleep mode.


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Re: poorquality of voices

[Rajmund]

Hi, I find some voices, like  Fred, Alex, in some ways, Kate, To be faster than 
say, Karen, Samantha, Daniel, etc.



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From: Gordon  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

>
>
> The default Samantha is much faster and better in my opinion. I deleted 
> the enhanced and it went back to the default.
> 
> 
> On 9/15/2016 3:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> > I don't find any difference between iOS 9 enhanced Samantha and iOS 10 
> > enhanced Samantha. But voices are extremely subjective so we all have to 
> > agree to disagree when it comes wto which voice ne prefers.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Rajmund
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: poorquality of voices
> >
> > Hi, the enhanced Samantha is, excuse the language, but honestly and truly 
> > screwed. I had to immediately delete her, once I heard her. What happened 
> > to her? She was tolerable in IOS9, but she's out for good, now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
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> > - Original Message -
> > From: Lois Butterfield  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:42 pm
> > Subject: Re: poorquality of voices
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Dan,
> >>
> >> I tried a couple and ended up going back to compact Samantha because I
> >> still like it the best.
> >>
> >> Take care,
> >> Lois
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Dan
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:29 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: poorquality of voices
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
> >>
> >>
> >> Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
> >> voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the
> >> lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality
> >> voice.
> >>
> >>
> >> With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I
> >> have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that
> >> sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
> >>
> >>
> >> Am I alone in this?
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan Beaver
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Incoming call announcement with VoiceOver iOS10

[Shai]

Hello,
In iOS10, I am noticing that there does not seem to be a means by
which one can control the notification of incoming calls using
VoiceOver. I went to settings for phone and I have checked with the
various call announcement options but my understanding of this feature
suggests that this is not for Voiceover users since call announcement
appears to stay the same. I know that one can disable speech if they
do not want VoiceOver announcing a call but there should also be a
means of controlling call announcement altogether since the
information could also appear in braille.
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: poorquality of voices

[Rajmund]

Hi, I know it's subjective, but hearing the difference between IOS9 and IOS10 
Samantha may not be subjective. Whether you like the change, that is. But 
noticing... Either ways, try listening to the word, hotspot, with the IOS10 
Samantha. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:03 pm
Subject: RE: poorquality of voices

>
>
> I don't find any difference between iOS 9 enhanced Samantha and iOS 10 
> enhanced Samantha. But voices are extremely subjective so we all have to 
> agree to disagree when it comes wto which voice ne prefers.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: poorquality of voices
> 
> Hi, the enhanced Samantha is, excuse the language, but honestly and truly 
> screwed. I had to immediately delete her, once I heard her. What happened to 
> her? She was tolerable in IOS9, but she's out for good, now.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Lois Butterfield  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:42 pm
> Subject: Re: poorquality of voices
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > I tried a couple and ended up going back to compact Samantha because I 
> > still like it the best.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Lois
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dan
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:29 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: poorquality of voices
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
> > 
> > 
> > I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
> > 
> > 
> > Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
> > voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the
> > lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality 
> > voice.
> > 
> > 
> > With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I 
> > have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that 
> > sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
> > 
> > 
> > Am I alone in this?
> > 
> > 
> > Dan Beaver
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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Rajmund]

Hi, you can either send things in a little bubble, or in a full screen effect. 
Full screen effects have sounds, too. Hope this explains the options.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:58 pm
Subject: RE: iMessage screen effects are working

>
>
> Interesting, this does definitely work, on my 6S Plus a 3D force touch also 
> brought up the effects with Reduced Motion turned off.
> It still seems strange though because the first two, Bubbles and Scream are 
> announced as 1 of 2 and 2 of 2, all the other ones are not announced this way 
> and Bubbles says it's selected. I sent a message to my wife and double tapped 
> on "Gentle", then after I did this "Gentle was gone from the list but Bubbles 
> also still said "Selected".
> There then was a Sent button and I tapped it and Voiceover gave some sort of 
> explanation, but when I went back to review the message it did not say 
> anything.
> My wife whose 6S is not yet upgraded said it just says "sent with gentle 
> effect" but I guess for the effects to actually show as intended it is not 
> enough for the recipient to have iMessage, they must also be on iOS 10.
> Lastly, I discovered that if you swipe down on a message there is now a 
> "Reaction" option part of the rotor, double tap on this and you can give the 
> message a thumbs up, thumbs down, "HaHa" and some other stuff. I did this to 
> her reply and it then said that I "liked" her message, seems to be similar to 
> how you can react to posts of Facebook.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deb Lewis
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working
> 
> You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just sends. I 
> generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down performance 
> with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to turn it off and on 
> while you send a message.
> 
> On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
> > Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for 
> > me. I double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I 
> > lift my finger, the message is sent.
> >
> > Suzanne
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Lynette frison
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible 
> > ink, balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce 
> > motion in accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, 
> > double tap and hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop 
> > up. I just tried this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and 
> > voiceover even announced the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there 
> > was a way to make digital touch features more accessible, like if 
> > someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO could 
> > announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or 
> > handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd 
> > have a better idea what was being sent.
> >
> > Lynette
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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Rajmund]

Hi, After you select, say, bubble, you need to find the send button, activate 
it, and it will send the message, in bubble. You're at the right place, if you 
found them.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: Malcolm Parfitt  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working

>
>
> I must be missing something, wen I press and hold the send button in an I 
> Message I get a window with things like:  Bubble Slam and so on.  If I double 
> tap on bubble VO says it is selected but the window does not go away.  What 
> am I missing here?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Malcolm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 15 Sep 2016, at 20:36, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> > 
> > You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just
> > sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down
> > performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to
> > turn it off and on while you send a message.
> > 
> >> On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
> >> Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. 
> >> I
> >> double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my 
> >> finger,
> >> the message is sent.
> >> 
> >> Suzanne
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Lynette frison
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
> >> 
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink,
> >> balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in
> >> accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and
> >> hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried
> >> this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even 
> >> announced
> >> the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch
> >> features more accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it
> >> would be nice if VO could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to
> >> interpret a sketch or handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap,
> >> etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.
> >> 
> >> Lynette
> >> 
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ring tones in IOS 10

[Casey]

hi is there any new ring tones in IS 10?


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Re: poorquality of voices

[Lois Butterfield]

I too did not notice any difference between before the update and after.  I 
have always gone back to the compact voice.  When you update, you always get 
the enhanced automatically.  Maybe that causes confusion.


Take care,
Lois


-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

The default Samantha is much faster and better in my opinion. I deleted
the enhanced and it went back to the default.


On 9/15/2016 3:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I don't find any difference between iOS 9 enhanced Samantha and iOS 10 
enhanced Samantha. But voices are extremely subjective so we all have to 
agree to disagree when it comes wto which voice ne prefers.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rajmund

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

Hi, the enhanced Samantha is, excuse the language, but honestly and truly 
screwed. I had to immediately delete her, once I heard her. What happened 
to her? She was tolerable in IOS9, but she's out for good, now.




Sent from a Braille Sense

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From: Lois Butterfield  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices



Hi Dan,

I tried a couple and ended up going back to compact Samantha because I
still like it the best.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Dan
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: poorquality of voices

Hi,


I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.


I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.


Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the
lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality
voice.


With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I
have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that
sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.


Am I alone in this?


Dan Beaver

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RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have yourphoen unlock

[BBS]

Hi Sieghard. You're sorta incorrect about the screen locked announcement. If he 
really wants the announcement back, he can disable sounds and it will come back.

 

 

Shawn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

Hi Simon,

 

The "screen locked" announcement is no more in iOS 10 and there is no option to 
reenable it.

 

From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HOW TO ADJUST THE HOME botton so you can just touch it and have 
yourphoen unlock

 

Hi, where do I find the option to lock the screen automatically, and where do I 
find the option that when I press the on button on top of the phone to lock the 
screen it says screen locked?


Sent from my iPhone


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iOS 10 on 32 bit devices

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello all

So, I now know, iOS 10 is running fine on 32 bit devices, iPhone 5, iPhone 5c 
and iPad 4. Now, what’s available on these devices running iOS 10? Can you for 
example use all the new voices including Fred and Victoria? See all my devices 
are 64 bit so have no idea of the limitations on 32 bit devices except for no 
Alex which has been the case since iOS 8.

Thank you for any responses, just curious that is all.


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Re: poorquality of voices

[Gordon]

The default Samantha is much faster and better in my opinion. I deleted 
the enhanced and it went back to the default.



On 9/15/2016 3:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I don't find any difference between iOS 9 enhanced Samantha and iOS 10 enhanced 
Samantha. But voices are extremely subjective so we all have to agree to 
disagree when it comes wto which voice ne prefers.


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Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

Hi, the enhanced Samantha is, excuse the language, but honestly and truly 
screwed. I had to immediately delete her, once I heard her. What happened to 
her? She was tolerable in IOS9, but she's out for good, now.



Sent from a Braille Sense

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Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices



Hi Dan,

I tried a couple and ended up going back to compact Samantha because I
still like it the best.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Dan
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: poorquality of voices

Hi,


I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.


I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.


Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the
lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality
voice.


With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I
have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that
sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.


Am I alone in this?


Dan Beaver

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Re: iPhone 5

[christopher hallsworth]

Oh awesome! Glad it’s fine even on 32 bit devices.
> On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:21, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> It fine.  No problems here at all.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Godwin Adoyi Agada  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Is anyone running IOS 10 on an iPhone 5? If Yes, How is the 
>> speed/responsiveness? 
>> I want to know if I should update, this is the only device I have for now.
>> With best regards,
>> Godwin Adoyi
>> Cell phone: +233244311697
>> +2349035074300
>> Skype: gadoyi 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: poorquality of voices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't find any difference between iOS 9 enhanced Samantha and iOS 10 enhanced 
Samantha. But voices are extremely subjective so we all have to agree to 
disagree when it comes wto which voice ne prefers.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

Hi, the enhanced Samantha is, excuse the language, but honestly and truly 
screwed. I had to immediately delete her, once I heard her. What happened to 
her? She was tolerable in IOS9, but she's out for good, now.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Lois Butterfield  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: poorquality of voices

>
>
> Hi Dan,
> 
> I tried a couple and ended up going back to compact Samantha because I 
> still like it the best.
> 
> Take care,
> Lois
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: poorquality of voices
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
> 
> 
> I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
> 
> 
> Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
> voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the
> lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality 
> voice.
> 
> 
> With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I 
> have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that 
> sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
> 
> 
> Am I alone in this?
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
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Re: Watch OS 3.0 - Viration time!

[christopher hallsworth]

It was already on and set to digits on my watch now running watchOS 3. It might 
be me though, but I am getting inconsistencies. Sometimes I get the full 
pattern, sometimes I get just the minutes, other times though I just get the 
time spoken, no haptic feedback. Again though it’s probably me while I get 
accustomed to the very useful feature.
> On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:22, Timothy Emmons  wrote:
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> Hi Claudio and folks, I just updated to Watch OS 3, and I can't figure out 
> the haptic time as described here. Is there something I need enabled? Just 
> curious. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner  
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>> 
>> The preview doesn't work in iOS 10 even with hints on.
>> It could be this three finger tap is the solution.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Claudio Levantini  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> The best new feature in Watch OS 3.0 is the "Vibration time".
>>> This is not the official name.
>>> With Voice Over on and the screen locked, tap twice on the watch.
>>> It buz like a morse signal.
>>> Teh code is very simple:
>>> long vibrations stand for 10 unit;
>>> short vibrations stand for 1 unit.
>>> Examples:
>>> 12.05 (1 logng, 2 shorts, pause, 5 shorts)
>>> 23.59 (2 longs, 3 shorts, pause 5 longs, 9 shorts)
>>> 
>>> For me it's a very beatiful mode, useful when it is not so  polite to 
>>> speech the time.
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> Claudio
>>> 
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RE: iMessage screen effects are working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to double tap on the one you want and then find the Send button.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working

I must be missing something, wen I press and hold the send button in an I 
Message I get a window with things like:  Bubble Slam and so on.  If I double 
tap on bubble VO says it is selected but the window does not go away.  What am 
I missing here?

Thanks.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Sep 2016, at 20:36, Deb Lewis 
mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just
sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down
performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to
turn it off and on while you send a message.

On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson 
mailto:therealsuzannewil...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. I
double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my finger,
the message is sent.

Suzanne



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Subject: iMessage screen effects are working

Hi all,

For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink,
balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in
accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and
hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried
this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced
the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch
features more accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it
would be nice if VO could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to
interpret a sketch or handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap,
etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.

Lynette


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Any Users of the Bank of America App, PLEASE HELP!!!

[Elizabeth Bowden]

Hello All,
my friend and I are working on the bank of america App.  Howe ver, when we 
attempt to use the deposit feature of mobile banking, the photos just don't 
come out correctly.  We have tried using the scan stand that is cardboard and 
metal to line up the checks, but that didn't work either.  
Any Help would be appreciated.  


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RE: iMessage screen effects are working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting, this does definitely work, on my 6S Plus a 3D force touch also 
brought up the effects with Reduced Motion turned off.
It still seems strange though because the first two, Bubbles and Scream are 
announced as 1 of 2 and 2 of 2, all the other ones are not announced this way 
and Bubbles says it's selected. I sent a message to my wife and double tapped 
on "Gentle", then after I did this "Gentle was gone from the list but Bubbles 
also still said "Selected".
There then was a Sent button and I tapped it and Voiceover gave some sort of 
explanation, but when I went back to review the message it did not say anything.
My wife whose 6S is not yet upgraded said it just says "sent with gentle 
effect" but I guess for the effects to actually show as intended it is not 
enough for the recipient to have iMessage, they must also be on iOS 10.
Lastly, I discovered that if you swipe down on a message there is now a 
"Reaction" option part of the rotor, double tap on this and you can give the 
message a thumbs up, thumbs down, "HaHa" and some other stuff. I did this to 
her reply and it then said that I "liked" her message, seems to be similar to 
how you can react to posts of Facebook.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deb Lewis
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessage screen effects are working

You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just sends. I 
generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down performance with 
some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to turn it off and on while 
you send a message.

On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
> Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for 
> me. I double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I 
> lift my finger, the message is sent.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Lynette frison
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
>
> Hi all,
>
> For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible 
> ink, balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce 
> motion in accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, 
> double tap and hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop 
> up. I just tried this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and 
> voiceover even announced the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there 
> was a way to make digital touch features more accessible, like if 
> someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO could 
> announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or 
> handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd 
> have a better idea what was being sent.
>
> Lynette
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I must be missing something, wen I press and hold the send button in an I 
Message I get a window with things like:  Bubble Slam and so on.  If I double 
tap on bubble VO says it is selected but the window does not go away.  What am 
I missing here?

Thanks.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Sep 2016, at 20:36, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just
> sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down
> performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to
> turn it off and on while you send a message.
> 
>> On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
>> Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. I
>> double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my finger,
>> the message is sent.
>> 
>> Suzanne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Lynette frison
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink,
>> balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in
>> accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and
>> hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried
>> this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced
>> the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch
>> features more accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it
>> would be nice if VO could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to
>> interpret a sketch or handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap,
>> etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.
>> 
>> Lynette
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Re: T-Mobile users complain about iOS 10 carrier settings causing service blackouts [u]

[Pete Nalda]

This is exactly what happened to me yesterday afternoon after updating. I turn 
my phone off and back on, and all was back to normal. Hope it helps somebody 
else.

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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Attention T-Mobile customers.
> 
> T-Mobile users complain about iOS 10 carrier settings causing service 
> blackouts [u]
> AppleInsider
> 
>  A carrier settings update, associated with iOS 10, is causing some T-Mobile 
> customers to lose their cellular connection in places where they should 
> otherwise have a signal, according to complaints on Apple's support forums.
> 
>  
> 
> People encountering the issue are finding themselves completely offline until 
> they reboot their phones or choose Reset Network Settings from the iOS 
> Settings app. AppleInsider can confirm the existence of the glitch, which on 
> Wednesday kept an editor's iPhone 6 offline in an area which normally has 
> good reception. Rebooting the phone solved the situation.
> 
> Anecdotes suggest that the problem is related to how iPhones connect to 
> T-Mobile's LTE network. It appears to be triggered by temporarily leaving LTE 
> coverage, which can be troublesome if a person regularly passes through areas 
> with poor or non-existent service, like elevators and parking garages.
> 
> The carrier update is suspected because the problem didn't manifest until 
> this week, and is only affecting connections to one cellular network. 
> Appropriately, people on T-Mobile's prepaid MetroPCS brand may also be 
> impacted.
> 
> So far there's no indication of when the issue might be resolved, but 
> T-Mobile will presumably push out another carrier update in the near future.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/15/t-mobile-users-complain-about-ios-10-carrier-settings-causing-service-blackouts
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Re: moving apps

[christopher hallsworth]

Same as always, three finger flick to the left or right. Or double tap on the 
page control.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 01:25, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
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> ow do you change pages with the new app movement feature?
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Re: iMessage screen effects are working

[Deb Lewis]

You must double tap and hold the send button. Otherwise, yes it just
sends. I generally prefer to leave the motion off becaue it slows down
performance with some apps so it's too bad there's not an easy way to
turn it off and on while you send a message.

On 9/15/16, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
> Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. I
> double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my finger,
> the message is sent.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Lynette frison
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iMessage screen effects are working
>
> Hi all,
>
> For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink,
> balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in
> accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and
> hold on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried
> this and it works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced
> the effect I had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch
> features more accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it
> would be nice if VO could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to
> interpret a sketch or handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap,
> etc, at least then we'd have a better idea what was being sent.
>
> Lynette
>
>
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Re: Messages... adding an effect?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi

It is part of the new ability to use apps in iMessages, Music being one of 
them. There is no fee at all, and the link shared the recipient will be able to 
play the music inside the message. Really cool.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 01:32, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I noticed today that I can add music to a message. It gave me a list of 
> tracks. I’m not sure if they came from music I recently listened to in Apple 
> Music because that is what it looked like to me. Is this an effect or 
> something different? Is there a fee for adding music to a message?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> michaelmasl...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:06 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: RE: Messages... adding an effect?
>  
> This feature is accessible. I have played with it several times.
> 
> This is how I Email now
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016 at 18:07,  wrote:
>> 
>> The effects I am pretty sure are not accessible at this point. A sighted 
>> person would I believe tap and hold on the Send button and then be able to 
>> choose the effects, but for Voiceover users a double tap and hold does 
>> nothing until you let go and then it sends the message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As for emoji predictions, they do work. Try and type "Hi" in a message and 
>> then check the predictions above the keyboard, when I just did this one of 
>> the options was a "waving hand emoji" or type "Love" and you get a "red 
>> heart emoji".
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of rajmund
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:47 AM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Can't figure out the emojies, either, but for effects, double tap the 
>> send.  Now, where send used to be, there is a close button.  Start swiping 
>> to the left.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>> 
>> From: Devin Prater > 
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" > Sep 2016 11:52:43 -0500
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Messages...  adding an effect?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can only add effects to iMessages.  I know, sucky for those who don't 
>> have iMessage, or all of us who have friends who just happen to not be on 
>> Apple devices, but yeah.  I can't figure out how to emojify words and such, 
>> emoji replacements for words in messages where words can be replaced by an 
>> emoji.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi all.
>> 
>>  I can't figure this out for the life of me! Lol.  I'm trying to add an  
>> effect to a text message, but when I force touch the send button...  or  
>> double tap and hold on the send button...  the message gets sent.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Jenifer Barr
>> 
>>  Jenifer571 on dice world
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: poorquality of voices

[Devin Prater]

Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes 
wrote:

> Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are very poor
> with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch what isn't broken.
> The voices were not bad before they should just have left it alone. Just my
> opinion.
>
> Chantal Oakes
>
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
>
>
> I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
>
>
> Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality voices
> had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found that the lower
> quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the high quality voice.
>
>
> With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.  I have
> downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one that sounded
> clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
>
>
> Am I alone in this?
>
>
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RE: iMessage screen effects are working

[Suzanne Wilson]

Sadly, I followed your suggestion to the letter and it didn't work for me. I 
double tap the send button but nothing pops up. As soon as I lift my finger, 
the message is sent.

Suzanne



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lynette frison
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessage screen effects are working

Hi all,

For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink, 
balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in 
accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and hold 
on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried this and it 
works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced the effect I 
had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch features more 
accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO 
could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or 
handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd 
have a better idea what was being sent.

Lynette


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Re: Messages... adding an effect?

[Devin Prater]

Yep. Hmm, wonder if restarting the phone will help? Writing this on my
laptop right now, will check and see if that works later. Just an idea
though. I have a regular 6. I know it *should* work, as it worked during
the beta.

Devin Pratersent from Gmail.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

> Hi.
> All messages sent to these contacts are iMessages. I've double checked
> before sending this email.
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Daniel L. Gervais <
> daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Even if you label their cell numbers in your contacts app as being an
> iPhone, that is not what the phone uses to determine if the recipient of
> your text has an iPhone.  I believe someone on the list said something
> that the phone will just know based off of the telephone number.
>
> It also depends on whether or not the person has turned on iMessage in
> the settings and whether or not they've setup their cell number to
> receive iMessages.  I have a friend who has a iPhone and when I send him
> a message, it is a text message and not an iMessage.  I found the
> easiest way to know is to, either compose a new message to the person,
> or if you have an existing conversation, open it, and when you double
> tap on the edit box at the bottom to type your message, VoiceOver will
> say whether it is a text message or iMessage.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> From:Jenifer Barr 
> To:
> Date:2016/09/15 11:30 AM
> Subject:Re: Messages... adding an effect?
>
> All contacts I am trying to send effects too are labeled iPhone.
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Chip Orange 
>
> wrote:
>
>
> For it to work, the sender must show the recipient’s mobile number
>
> as being an Iphone number, not a mobile number; that’s what allows the
> Iphone to try and use Imessage.
>
>
> Hth,
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] On
>
> Behalf Of Jerry Mader
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:33 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Messages... adding an effect?
>
>
> Does this work on iPhone 5s? Or does it have to be a six or 6+? I
>
> cannot get it to work at all. Thanks
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Devin Prater 
>
> wrote:
>
>
> You can only add effects to iMessages. I know, sucky for those who
>
> don't have iMessage, or all of us who have friends who just happen to
> not be on Apple devices, but yeah. I can't figure out how to emojify
> words and such, emoji replacements for words in messages where words can
> be replaced by an emoji.
>
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Jenifer Barr 
>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I can't figure this out for the life of me! Lol. I'm trying to add an
>
> effect to a text message, but when I force touch the send button... or
> double tap and hold on the send button... the message gets sent.
>
>
>
> Jenifer Barr
>
> Jenifer571 on dice world
>
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Re: Breathe App on Apple Watch

[christopher hallsworth]

Ok all, just installed watchOS 3, can’t find the Breathe app but there are 
settings for it in the Watch app.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 05:36, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> I get the feedback immediately after the watch says to breathe on the
> taps but after the first one I don't get more. I have the feedback set
> to the highest setting. I feel them for mail, texts etc. and I feel
> this first one, but as I understand it I should feel them every time I
> should inhale right? Wonder what I'm doing wrong then. I even put my
> other hand along the band to see if I felt them there, but no joy.
> 
> On 9/14/16, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון  wrote:
>> Hi Dab, the briff app on my apple Wotch works fine to me. VoceOver reads all
>> the information about the briff, and i get taptic peedback after one
>> seconds.
>> 
>> Sent from  my iphone
>> 
>> ‫ב-14 בספט׳ 2016, בשעה 22:00, ‏‏Jonathan Mosen ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>> 
>>> Hi Deb, it is working OK for me. The haptic vibrations are a kind of
>>> rippling effect. It's really cool.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
 On 15/09/2016, at 6:19 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
 
 I'm having trouble using the new breathe app on my watch. When I press
 the start button it says to pay attention to my breathing and that I'm
 to breathe in when I get the taptic. Those are my words for it. But I
 never got a taptic on my wrist. I know the breathing ring is supposed
 to be expanding and contracting but I'm not sure VO is actually
 reading all of the information. Has anyone tried it and are you having
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T-Mobile users complain about iOS 10 carrier settings causing service blackouts [u]

[Mary Otten]

Attention T-Mobile customers.

T-Mobile users complain about iOS 10 carrier settings causing service blackouts 
[u]
AppleInsider

 A carrier settings update, associated with iOS 10, is causing some T-Mobile 
customers to lose their cellular connection in places where they should 
otherwise have a signal, according to complaints on Apple's support forums.

 

People encountering the issue are finding themselves completely offline until 
they reboot their phones or choose Reset Network Settings from the iOS Settings 
app. AppleInsider can confirm the existence of the glitch, which on Wednesday 
kept an editor's iPhone 6 offline in an area which normally has good reception. 
Rebooting the phone solved the situation.

Anecdotes suggest that the problem is related to how iPhones connect to 
T-Mobile's LTE network. It appears to be triggered by temporarily leaving LTE 
coverage, which can be troublesome if a person regularly passes through areas 
with poor or non-existent service, like elevators and parking garages.

The carrier update is suspected because the problem didn't manifest until this 
week, and is only affecting connections to one cellular network. Appropriately, 
people on T-Mobile's prepaid MetroPCS brand may also be impacted.

So far there's no indication of when the issue might be resolved, but T-Mobile 
will presumably push out another carrier update in the near future.



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Re: Just wondering about a new little thing with the iPhone.

[christopher hallsworth]

Confirmed. With sounds off, you hear “screen locked”. With sounds on, you hear 
the sound in its place.
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 06:19, BBS  wrote:
> 
> Hi. If you're like me though where you don't use the Voiceover sounds, you 
> still get the screen locked message verbally. Just thought I'd point that out.
>  
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Just wondering about a new little thing with the iPhone.
>  
> "i actually like the new way it behaves, as well as the new lock sound. It's 
> much more unabbtrusivve than it was originally. Ow also like the new keyboard 
> sounds. They're a lot less harsh and noisy, which I find nice.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Connie Mohney  wrote:
> 
>> Terri,
>> I was talking to a apple technition today and they mentioned the new sounds 
>> on IOS 10.  All they mentioned was the lock screen sound but they made it 
>> sound like there were other new sounds.  Anyway, they said people were 
>> complaining about the sound the lock screen made in previous versions so 
>> they changed the sound and stopped voice over from saying screen locked.   
>> Connie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Just wondering about a new little thing with the iPhone.
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> I'm just curious about a small change since the update. It's really nothing. 
>> But it is something I am interested about. Why did they change the sound 
>> that the phone makes, when you lock it?
>> Also, why does the phone sometimes make a quick found, but other times makes 
>> a little beep type of sound?
>> Then other times, why does it seem to do both?
>> 
>> 
>> I just thought this was interesting. Also a bit different. It certainly 
>> wasn't something I expected. When I first heard that beeping sound last 
>> night, it took me a minute to realize that it was my phone doing that. I 
>> still am not sure I like the new layout with the phone on that first page. 
>> And I also don't really care for the new email layout. There are some things 
>> they could've just left alone. But these are only my thoughts. Thank you for 
>> listening, I really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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T-Mobile’s top brass warns some iPhone owners against iOS 10 upgrades

[Mary Otten]

This article is from today.
Mary
T-Mobile’s top brass warns some iPhone owners against iOS 10 upgrades
TechCrunch  /  Brian Heater


Maybe don’t go upgrading to iOS 10 just yet, T-Mobile customers. The 
magenta-drenched uncarrier has taken to social media to warn owners of the 
Phone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, and iPhone SE against rushing into Apple’s latest major 
mobile operating system update after widespread reports of lost network 
connections.

Apple is working to resolve the issue with iOS10 for @TMobile customers. Don't 
download iOS10 if you currently use an iPhone 5SE, 6 or 6+

— John Legere (@JohnLegere) September 15, 2016

Both outspoken CEO John Legere and CTO Neville Ray have issued warnings on 
Twitter, noting that Apple is current working to address the issue and expects 
to issue a fix within the next 24 to 48 hours.

In the meantime, however, there’s a fairly inelegant work around for the issue, 
for those who have already gone ahead and upgraded their OS. Ray suggests that 
users manually restart their handset every time a connection is lost.

iPhone 6, 6+ & 5SE customers – Do not download iOS10. We are getting reports of 
connectivity issues & Apple is working on a fix.

— T-Mobile📱 (@TMobile) September 15, 2016

The carrier will put out word as soon as things are back up and running – 
assuming, of course, that users can get online to see it. Meantime, you can 
live vicariously through our iOS 10 review that went up earlier this week.



Original Article: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/AzKAHP5Pl04/


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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Thanks for letting us know about this. I'll certainly send Apple an e-mail 
report and would encourage everyone else to do the same. 

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Sep 2016, at 19:37, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi.
> thank you for this.
> I'll do my part.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 19:26 de 15/09/2016, M. Taylor escreveu:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
>> fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
>> Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
>> VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
>> delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
>> left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.
>> 
>> I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
>> a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.
>> 
>> [BEGIN REPORT]
>> Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
>> Accessible in iOS 10.
>> 
>> In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
>> reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.
>> 
>> To reproduce this bug:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.
>> 
>> 2.
>> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Select the Favorites Tab.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
>> VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
>> also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
>> [END REPORT]
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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iMessage screen effects are working

[Lynette frison]

Hi all,

For those of you who couldn't get i Message effects (e.g., invisible ink, 
balloons, etc), to work, I may have the solution. Turn off reduce motion in 
accessibility settings. Now, after you type your message, double tap and hold 
on the send button and the effects screen will pop up. I just tried this and it 
works beautifully. I sent a message and voiceover even announced the effect I 
had chosen. Now, if only there was a way to make digital touch features more 
accessible, like if someone sends you their heartbeat, it would be nice if VO 
could announce that. Obviously, it wouldn't be able to interpret a sketch or 
handwriting, but if it said sketch, heartbeat, tap, etc, at least then we'd 
have a better idea what was being sent.

Lynette


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Having Problems With An App

[carla dawson]

Is anyone having problems with the Starbucks app after upgrading to IOS 10?
It won't let me sign in.  I uninstalled the app and reinstalled it and it
still doesn't work.

 

Carla

 

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Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App

[Mário Navarro]

hi.
thank you for this.
I'll do my part.
cheers.

Às 19:26 de 15/09/2016, M. Taylor escreveu:

Hello Everyone,

Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the
fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the
Favorites area of the Phone app.  Also, the Delete buttons are no longer
VoiceOver accessible.  Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can
delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the
left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible.

I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into
a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit.

[BEGIN REPORT]
Subject:  Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver
Accessible in iOS 10.

In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot
reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app.

To reproduce this bug:

1.
Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite.

2.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app.

3.
Select the Favorites Tab.

4.
Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display.

5.
Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not
VoiceOver accessible.  It should also be noted that the Delete controls are
also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver.
[END REPORT]

Thank you,

Mark



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