Re: IPad Mini 4

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are youall?  I bought an iPad Mini 4 with 128 gigs  last April. The 
reason I bought it is bcause it has 128 gigs, andit  cost less tehn an IPad 
Pro, and is small to carrry guys. I bought  tmy Ipad Mini 4 at the Apple  
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> On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paula,
> That's great. I'm glad you're still getting some use out of it.
> Anyone thinking about an iPad now has a bit of a dilemma though.
> My feeling on that is that if you really want a device, you should just get 
> it. There's always going to be something new and faster with more features 
> coming out not too long after you get whatever you get anyway, so if you wait 
> around, you'll always feel that you got an obsolete machine no matter when 
> you buy it because, technically, it is obsolete almost as soon as it gets to 
> the public. So just get it when you want it.
> The devices we have now are so marvelous anyhow that even the obsolete ones 
> are pretty impressive when you think about it.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paula Pinder
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IPad Mini 4
> 
> Hi Evan and all
> 
> I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
> still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
> it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
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Re: Best email apps

[Maria Reyes]

I tried the spark app and I don't think that is accessible 
Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Thomas Domville  
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> I am so sorry about that. Thank you for the correction.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Maria Reyes
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: Best email apps
> 
> I also love Outlook I'm glad I can sign with all my email accounts By the way 
> my name's Maria 
> 
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>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Thomas Domville  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Marie,
>> 
>> Outside of the stocked Apple Mail app. I have been using the Microsoft 
>> Outlook for the iOS to be really fantastic. There is a lot of features 
>> packed in to this wonderful gem. Is now my current and go to suggestion for 
>> a good Mail app. Although, I would love to find another Mail app that does 
>> more pwerful rules that would allow me to move incoming mail in to different 
>> categories and folders. Outlook has something called the Focus and Others 
>> which is a scaled down version what I'm seeking for but for now. I really 
>> love this app.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:30 PM
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>> Subject: Best email apps
>> 
>> Hi all! 
>> What email apps would you recommend on iOS? I am looking for an alternative 
>> app. 
>> 
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RE: Best email apps

[Thomas Domville]

I am so sorry about that. Thank you for the correction.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best email apps

I also love Outlook I'm glad I can sign with all my email accounts By the way 
my name's Maria 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Thomas Domville  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marie,
> 
> Outside of the stocked Apple Mail app. I have been using the Microsoft 
> Outlook for the iOS to be really fantastic. There is a lot of features packed 
> in to this wonderful gem. Is now my current and go to suggestion for a good 
> Mail app. Although, I would love to find another Mail app that does more 
> pwerful rules that would allow me to move incoming mail in to different 
> categories and folders. Outlook has something called the Focus and Others 
> which is a scaled down version what I'm seeking for but for now. I really 
> love this app.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Reyes
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Best email apps
> 
> Hi all! 
> What email apps would you recommend on iOS? I am looking for an alternative 
> app. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

[Fazil]

what should I do when I want to delete a digit?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

 

I believe it will show when you have characters to delete.

 

 

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Fazil
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Subject: Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

 

Hi, list.

I have IPhone5S and I can not find delete button on my phone-keypad, does it 
have one?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Helpful tip for direct TV now users

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Kliphton, and list,


Well, I can see the different features, such as on now, watch-list, and 
so on.

However, none of my networks are offered yet. So I don't seem to get 
that option, or the channel numbers list.

But this is still great information to have.


Thank you,


Terri


On 1/14/2017 8:01 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Well, was wondering why the movies, shows, network, and other features that 
> are on the phone weren’t showing on the appleTV4.  So, while watching a show, 
> turn voiceover off, swipe up once, turn voiceover back on, and you will have 
> the list of on demand content for movies, shows, networks.  Once you get to 
> the category you want to view, just swipe down, not click the track pad, 
> again, in the network section it will do like it did on sling TV, and say 2 
> of 15, 3 of 15, and so on.  It’s a pretty short list so I am sure you can 
> remember what your favorites will be.  As for the shows and movies, those are 
> all read just fine.  HTH
>

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Re: Favorite podcast app

[Randy Stegall]

the native podcast app.
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> For the podcast listeners out their what is your favorite podcast app? 
> 
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RE: Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

[Larry Lumpkin]

I believe it will show when you have characters to delete.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

 

Hi, list.

I have IPhone5S and I can not find delete button on my phone-keypad, does it 
have one?

Thanks!

 

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Delete Button On Phone-Keypad?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I have IPhone5S and I can not find delete button on my phone-keypad, does it
have one?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Best email apps

[Maria Reyes]

I also love Outlook I'm glad I can sign with all my email accounts By the way 
my name's Maria 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Thomas Domville  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marie,
> 
> Outside of the stocked Apple Mail app. I have been using the Microsoft 
> Outlook for the iOS to be really fantastic. There is a lot of features packed 
> in to this wonderful gem. Is now my current and go to suggestion for a good 
> Mail app. Although, I would love to find another Mail app that does more 
> pwerful rules that would allow me to move incoming mail in to different 
> categories and folders. Outlook has something called the Focus and Others 
> which is a scaled down version what I'm seeking for but for now. I really 
> love this app.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Maria Reyes
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Best email apps
> 
> Hi all! 
> What email apps would you recommend on iOS? I am looking for an alternative 
> app. 
> 
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Re: Side App Switcher

[Richard Turner]

Thank you for that. I just tested it on my iPod Touch 6, and it works very 
nicely.
I still didn't hear anything about side app switcher, but the four finger flick 
left or right does work to switch between apps.
Richard



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On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Thomas Domville 
> wrote:

Hello All,

Yes, when the iOS 10 was dropped. One of those new feature was called the Slide 
Over. Originally, it was thought to only work for the iPad family but that is 
not the case. It does work on the smaller family. Least when I had done my 
testing with the iPhone 6s and the 7 models. All one have to do is open an app. 
Now open another app. Do a four fingers swipe from the left side of the screen 
to the right. This will now let you Slide Over to the previous app that was 
open. Touch any where on that screen for that app. Now you can Slide Over back 
in doing a four fingers swipe from the right to the left.

Hope that is what you were speaking about. ;)

HTH

Regards,
Thomas


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Side App Switcher

Ok so how do these gestures for interacting with this mew feature work with 
Voiceover, if VO already has a way to do this?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 14/01/2017, a las 4:57 p.m., Richard Turner 
> escribió:
I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on an 
Apple support page:

Use Slide Over
Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app you’re 
currently using. You can quickly check your text messages, respond to emails, 
or create a note. Just swipe to the left from the middle-right edge of the 
screen to see your previously used app.

To switch the side app that you’re using, swipe down from the top-right side of 
the screen. You’ll see a list of your apps. Tap one to use it. When you’re 
done, slide from left to right on the app to return to the previous app.

You can use Slide Over with iPad Pro, iPad Air and later, and iPad mini 2 and 
later.


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On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:
Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S


El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund 
> escribió:

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 4:06 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
Hey all,

Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone else getting this 
and know what it is referring to? Thanks,


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Helpful tip for direct TV now users

[Kliphton Miller]

Well, was wondering why the movies, shows, network, and other features that are 
on the phone weren’t showing on the appleTV4.  So, while watching a show, turn 
voiceover off, swipe up once, turn voiceover back on, and you will have the 
list of on demand content for movies, shows, networks.  Once you get to the 
category you want to view, just swipe down, not click the track pad, again, in 
the network section it will do like it did on sling TV, and say 2 of 15, 3 of 
15, and so on.  It’s a pretty short list so I am sure you can remember what 
your favorites will be.  As for the shows and movies, those are all read just 
fine.  HTH

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RE: Best email apps

[Thomas Domville]

Hello Marie,

Outside of the stocked Apple Mail app. I have been using the Microsoft Outlook 
for the iOS to be really fantastic. There is a lot of features packed in to 
this wonderful gem. Is now my current and go to suggestion for a good Mail app. 
Although, I would love to find another Mail app that does more pwerful rules 
that would allow me to move incoming mail in to different categories and 
folders. Outlook has something called the Focus and Others which is a scaled 
down version what I'm seeking for but for now. I really love this app.

Regards,
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Hi all! 
What email apps would you recommend on iOS? I am looking for an alternative 
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Re: Adding a song to an existing playlist in apple music

[Chris Chaffin]

For those without 3d touch, a single finger double tap and hold on a song will 
bring up a pop up menu with many choices including adding the song to a 
playlist.

Chris


> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Huh, that explains why it only sometimes works for me. Thanks for the tip.
> 
> In any case, 3D touch makes it easier to add songs to playlists.
> 
>> On 1/14/17, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Kimber,
>> 
>> The gesture to initiated 3D touch is a harder single finger press on the
>> screen and not a single finger double tap and hold. That latter gesture is
>> available whether your device supports 3D touch or not.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:17 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have 3D touch on your phone, you can double tap and hold to bring
>>> up a menu that allows you to do several things like play the song or add
>>> it to an existing playlist without starting play and going through all
>>> those acrobatics.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
 
 Hmmm, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well.
 
 I mean that I am having difficulty adding a song from, say, an apple
 suggested playlist to an existing playlist I have on my phone. So, if
 I have their suggested playlist up, and in swiping right through the
 titles of the song, I see one I'd like to add to one of my own
 existing playlists, I can't in fact just double tap it, as this will
 only make the song start to play. If I do want to add it to an
 existing playlist, I have to double tap the song title, which will
 make it start playing, then bring up the mini player, find the more
 button, and then choose add to playlist. So this means that I am not
 actually able to spontaneously add songs to an existing playlist
 without actually listening to them. If I recall correctly, this was
 not the case in ios9. And if I do flick up and down on a song title,
 there is no "more" option--just activate and add to library. am I
 making sense? are other people having this difficulty too?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Shermeen
 
 
> On 1/13/17, Akhil  wrote:
> Hi,
> the entire process will be same except the last final step as you
> described.
> instead of flicking up or down, just double tap and  press long the
> song
> which you'd like to ad to your existing playlist. a dialogue box will
> appear consisting of various options including the add to play list
> option
> which you want. select the desired option and find the playlist by
> flicking
> 
> left or right in which you like to add the selected song. double tap
> the
> selected play list and the song is added to your desired playlist...
> 
> Thanks
> Akhilesh.
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Re: Favorite podcast app

[wui chin Leong]

I use the native podcasts app for ios.it is very accessible. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Thomas Domville  
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> Hi There,
> 
> My favorite is the Overcast then follow by the Downcast. For me the Overcast 
> packs a lot of great features for being free.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas
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> For the podcast listeners out their what is your favorite podcast app? 
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RE: Favorite podcast app

[Thomas Domville]

Hi There,

My favorite is the Overcast then follow by the Downcast. For me the Overcast 
packs a lot of great features for being free.

Regards,
Thomas


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For the podcast listeners out their what is your favorite podcast app? 


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RE: Side App Switcher

[Thomas Domville]

Hello All,

 

Yes, when the iOS 10 was dropped. One of those new feature was called the Slide 
Over. Originally, it was thought to only work for the iPad family but that is 
not the case. It does work on the smaller family. Least when I had done my 
testing with the iPhone 6s and the 7 models. All one have to do is open an app. 
Now open another app. Do a four fingers swipe from the left side of the screen 
to the right. This will now let you Slide Over to the previous app that was 
open. Touch any where on that screen for that app. Now you can Slide Over back 
in doing a four fingers swipe from the right to the left.

 

Hope that is what you were speaking about. ;)

 

HTH

 

Regards,

Thomas

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Side App Switcher

 

Ok so how do these gestures for interacting with this mew feature work with 
Voiceover, if VO already has a way to do this?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S


El 14/01/2017, a las 4:57 p.m., Richard Turner  > escribió:

I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on an 
Apple support page:

 

Use Slide Over

Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app you’re 
currently using. You can quickly check your text messages, respond to emails, 
or create a note. Just swipe to the left from the middle-right edge of the 
screen to see your previously used app.

 

To switch the side app that you’re using, swipe down from the top-right side of 
the screen. You’ll see a list of your apps. Tap one to use it. When you’re 
done, slide from left to right on the app to return to the previous app.

 

You can use Slide Over with iPad Pro, iPad Air and later, and iPad mini 2 and 
later.

 

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

 


On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio  > wrote:

Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S




El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund  > escribió:

 

hello,

am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

 

Sent from Thunderbird

 

On 14/01/17 4:06 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

 

Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone else getting this 
and know what it is referring to? Thanks,

 

 

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RE: Best email apps

[Larry Lumpkin]

I find the native app very useable and fine for me.


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Hi all! 
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RE: Favorite podcast app

[Larry Lumpkin]

Mine is ICatcher.  It is very accessible.


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For the podcast listeners out their what is your favorite podcast app? 


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Favorite podcast app

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For the podcast listeners out their what is your favorite podcast app? 


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Best email apps

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Hi all! 
What email apps would you recommend on iOS? I am looking for an alternative 
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RE: Amazon Music App

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have both apple music and a large itunes library and amazon music.  I did a 
bit of research some time back and, though I haven’t done this, understand that 
this is how it is supposed to work.

 

You get a little cloud space with amazon prime but can subscribe to quite a 
number of songs though I don’t remember how many.  You then launch the amazon 
music program on your computer and choose somehow to upload your library to the 
cloud.  Licensing restrictions may govern how and what songs get uploaded but I 
don’t know much about that.

 

 

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Subject: RE: Amazon Music App

 

Lynda,

 

Your post was a little short on details of what specifically you're trying to 
do and how far you got. I'm able to play all the music located on my iPhone 
with the Amazon Music app. I don't have Apple Music which as I understand it is 
a music streaming service but I'm pretty sure you'll not be able to play Apple 
Music content with the Amazon Music app.

 

If I've misunderstood your issue, please post some more details.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:36 PM
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Subject: Amazon Music App

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

We have a Ta[ and Echo. I want to migrate my music from Apple Music into the 
Amazon Music app. Initially when I installed the Amazon music app, I thought I 
completed the necessary steps. Did I possibly misunderstand the features of the 
app? 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

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RE: Amazon Music App

[Alan Lemly]

Lynda,

 

Your post was a little short on details of what specifically you're trying to 
do and how far you got. I'm able to play all the music located on my iPhone 
with the Amazon Music app. I don't have Apple Music which as I understand it is 
a music streaming service but I'm pretty sure you'll not be able to play Apple 
Music content with the Amazon Music app.

 

If I've misunderstood your issue, please post some more details.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Music App

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

We have a Ta[ and Echo. I want to migrate my music from Apple Music into the 
Amazon Music app. Initially when I installed the Amazon music app, I thought I 
completed the necessary steps. Did I possibly misunderstand the features of the 
app? 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

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RE: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

[Richard Turner]

That is correct.  Voice Dream downloads them so you don’t have to deal with 
streaming, which saves data if you are not on WiFi.
And, simply provides better performance in my view.

Richard


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I also find that reading large mp3 files works better for me in Voice Dream 
because it seems to download them to the device for reading. It does take a bit 
of time for the download but I prefer reading things located on the device as 
opposed to streaming them which seems to be what I get when reading with 
Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

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Richard Turner
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Which is why I would use Voice Dream Reader since you can easily place 
bookmarks wherever you like.
Can you adjust the playback speed when using Dropbox?

Richard


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Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

In Dropbox, I can go into a completely different folder and listen to a podcast 
or another book and then back into the book I was first in and it will pick up  
where I left off. You can also flick up and down in the area measuring the time 
and go to different locations in the file. The only thing I can't do which I 
wish I could is place a bookmark in an area that I might want to go back to for 
information.

In that case, I just look at the time location and make a note of it and then I 
know exactly where to move to if I need to find it. A little inconvenient, but 
not too bad.

Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

Just curious, doesn't it stay where you pause it unless you choose another 
audio file to listen to. Also, I think you might be able open an mp3 in voice 
dream reader.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:00 AM
Subject: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

Hello everyone,

I have some audiobooks in my Dropbox folder. This is how I prefer to put stuff 
on my Ipad.

If the book is all in 1 file, then how can I book mark it, if I need to stop 
reading it for a while?

Thank you,

Terri
Get Outlook for iOS

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RE: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

[Alan Lemly]

I also find that reading large mp3 files works better for me in Voice Dream 
because it seems to download them to the device for reading. It does take a bit 
of time for the download but I prefer reading things located on the device as 
opposed to streaming them which seems to be what I get when reading with 
Dropbox.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

 

Which is why I would use Voice Dream Reader since you can easily place 
bookmarks wherever you like.  

Can you adjust the playback speed when using Dropbox?

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

 

In Dropbox, I can go into a completely different folder and listen to a podcast 
or another book and then back into the book I was first in and it will pick up  
where I left off. You can also flick up and down in the area measuring the time 
and go to different locations in the file. The only thing I can't do which I 
wish I could is place a bookmark in an area that I might want to go back to for 
information.

 

In that case, I just look at the time location and make a note of it and then I 
know exactly where to move to if I need to find it. A little inconvenient, but 
not too bad.

 

Vicki

 

- Original Message - 

From: Robert Doc Wright   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

 

Just curious, doesn't it stay where you pause it unless you choose another 
audio file to listen to. Also, I think you might be able open an mp3 in voice 
dream reader.

- Original Message - 

From: Terri Stimmel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:00 AM

Subject: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

 

Hello everyone,

 

I have some audiobooks in my Dropbox folder. This is how I prefer to put stuff 
on my Ipad.

 

If the book is all in 1 file, then how can I book mark it, if I need to stop 
reading it for a while?

 

Thank you,

 

Terri

Get Outlook for iOS  

 

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zello and the volume adjustment

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Is there any way you can turn up the volume on zello without making 
voiceover go louder?  Would love it if that can be done.  I know you can 
adjust volumes for each individual user, but wanted to know if you could 
do it globally.


thanks,
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Re: Side App Switcher

[rajmund]

I even bought it up in the past on the iPad. but thanks for the info. 
and sorry for the misunderstanding, thought you sent it to tell us what 
it was, rather than be interested again.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 11:35 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


I have no idea. I have never heard this. I was just a little curious so
I did a search.
For those who are dealing with this, someone may want to ask Apple. Or,
simply go on wondering what it is.
Richard



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On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:29 PM, rajmund > wrote:


hello,
it says this on my 5s, though. the iPad is not upgraded, and it will
not be. to my knowledge, this is not available on the small phones.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 10:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on
an Apple support page:

Use Slide Over
Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app
you’re currently using. You can quickly check your text messages,
respond to emails, or create a note. Just swipe to the left from the
middle-right edge of the screen to see your previously used app.

To switch the side app that you’re using, swipe down from the top-right
side of the screen. You’ll see a list of your apps. Tap one to use it.
When you’re done, slide from left to right on the app to return to the
previous app.

You can use Slide Over with iPad Pro, iPad Air and later, and iPad mini
2 and later.


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On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:


Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone
knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S


El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund 
> escribió:

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird


On 14/01/17 4:06 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
Hey all,

Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher
after launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone
else getting this and know what it is referring to? Thanks,



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Re: Side App Switcher

[Richard Turner]

I have no idea. I have never heard this. I was just a little curious so I did a 
search.
For those who are dealing with this, someone may want to ask Apple. Or, simply 
go on wondering what it is.
Richard



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On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:29 PM, rajmund 
> wrote:

hello,
it says this on my 5s, though. the iPad is not upgraded, and it will not be. to 
my knowledge, this is not available on the small phones.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 10:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on
an Apple support page:

Use Slide Over
Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app
you’re currently using. You can quickly check your text messages,
respond to emails, or create a note. Just swipe to the left from the
middle-right edge of the screen to see your previously used app.

To switch the side app that you’re using, swipe down from the top-right
side of the screen. You’ll see a list of your apps. Tap one to use it.
When you’re done, slide from left to right on the app to return to the
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On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio 

> wrote:

Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund 

> escribió:

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird

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Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher
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Re: Side App Switcher

[rajmund]

hello,
it says this on my 5s, though. the iPad is not upgraded, and it will not 
be. to my knowledge, this is not available on the small phones.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 10:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on
an Apple support page:

Use Slide Over
Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app
you’re currently using. You can quickly check your text messages,
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On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio > wrote:


Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S


El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund > escribió:

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird


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Re: Side App Switcher

[Gerardo Corripio]

Ok so how do these gestures for interacting with this mew feature work with 
Voiceover, if VO already has a way to do this?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 14/01/2017, a las 4:57 p.m., Richard Turner  
> escribió:
> 
> I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on an 
> Apple support page:
> 
> Use Slide Over
> Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app you’re 
> currently using. You can quickly check your text messages, respond to emails, 
> or create a note. Just swipe to the left from the middle-right edge of the 
> screen to see your previously used app.
> 
> To switch the side app that you’re using, swipe down from the top-right side 
> of the screen. You’ll see a list of your apps. Tap one to use it. When you’re 
> done, slide from left to right on the app to return to the previous app.
> 
> You can use Slide Over with iPad Pro, iPad Air and later, and iPad mini 2 and 
> later.
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
>> Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S
>> 
 El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund  escribió:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Thunderbird
>>> 
 On 14/01/17 4:06 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
 launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone else getting 
 this and know what it is referring to? Thanks,
 
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RE: IPad Mini 4

[Merv Keck]

I chose a Mini 4 on  the AT Next plan because I already had two iPhones on 
the plan. So adding the 128 GB Mini 4 was the more economical option for me as 
far as tablets were concerned. It was also the perfect size and was fast enough 
to do everything I needed it to do. In two years from September 2016 I will 
trade it in for something more up to date also on the Next plan so my 
investment is minimal.

Although it sounds great on its own, I tend to pair it with a Bluetooth 
keyboard and speaker. And it is extremely convenient.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

Hmmm, my iPad Mini 4 has stereo speakers at the bottom, on either side of the 
charging port.

I went for the portability of the Mini, and for the apps I’ve tried so far, 
it’s been working great.

Having come out in September 2015, I would bet it will be supported for several 
years yet.

As to this whole old products thing, I know someone who is still using an iPad 
Mini 2. She uses the BARD Mobile app, listens to described movies on Netflix, 
reads her money, runs the KNFB Reader on it, gets on Facebook, and probably 
more I don’t know about, all with no problems. People should be wary of feeling 
that they need the newest and fastest because it ain’t necessarily so.

Evan

Evan

 

From: Jennie Facer   

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:29 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  > wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do better?

Evan

 

From: Jennie Facer   

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.

 

 

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  > wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  > wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

 

From: Devin Prater 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   ; Marie 

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to wait 
a while and see if they prove true. 

Sent with AquaMail for Android
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I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any rumors of 
an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full price and have 
a new model come out in a few months.

Marie

 

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Re: Side App Switcher

[Richard Turner]

I did a Google search for "Side App Switcher" and found the following on an 
Apple support page:

Use Slide Over
Slide Over lets you interact with a second app without leaving the app you're 
currently using. You can quickly check your text messages, respond to emails, 
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later.


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On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:

Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund 
> escribi?:

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird

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Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
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Re: Side App Switcher

[Gerardo Corripio]

Oh yes me too! Hoping for finaly knowing what this means if anyone knows.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 14/01/2017, a las 3:00 p.m., rajmund  escribió:
> 
> hello,
> am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
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Re: Does any one know if raydium is stil being updated

[Mary Otten]

According to the developer, the app is not being updated, but the database is 
being kept updated.
Mary


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> Does any one know if raydium for ios i is stil being updated for ios 10?
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Sonos Tube, Anyone?

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all:
This past holiday season, our family purchased three Sonos players. We are all 
quite pleased with them, except that my son loves to listen to videos on 
YouTube, and would like to hear them on his Sonos speaker. There is an app 
called Sonos Tube which purports to play YouTube videos on Sonos. Not all 
buttons are labeled, but I managed to locate one of his favorite channels using 
the SEarch feature. I cannot get Sonos to play them, however. WE have Play 1 
speakers. Help is sincerely appreciated.
Christine
P.S. Sonos Connect and a Bluetooth receiver are ridicullusly expensive options 
for the simple task of listening to YouTube videos, so we would like to avoid 
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Re: Side App Switcher

[rajmund]

hello,
am getting it all the time, but didn't discover the cause as of yet.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 14/01/17 4:06 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone else getting this 
and know what it is referring to? Thanks,



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RE: IPad Mini 4

[Paula Pinder]

Hi Evan

Yes that's true. I don't think anyone can truly keep up-to-date with all
this technology. The next iPad I get will be a lot faster than my iPad Mini.

Best wishes

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Hi Paula,
That's great. I'm glad you're still getting some use out of it.
Anyone thinking about an iPad now has a bit of a dilemma though.
My feeling on that is that if you really want a device, you should just get 
it. There's always going to be something new and faster with more features 
coming out not too long after you get whatever you get anyway, so if you 
wait around, you'll always feel that you got an obsolete machine no matter 
when you buy it because, technically, it is obsolete almost as soon as it 
gets to the public. So just get it when you want it.
The devices we have now are so marvelous anyhow that even the obsolete ones 
are pretty impressive when you think about it.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Paula Pinder

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IPad Mini 4

Hi Evan and all

I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.

Best wishes

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RE: Setting Up Apple TV 4

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Ann, 

 

I will be using HDMI. We have Time Warner Cable. Definitely will wait for a 
sighted friend to come over. 

 

Thank you,

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann Smith
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting Up Apple TV 4

 

I love my Apple TV. I had cited assistance, just because I couldn't see which 
HDMI port to plug the device into. You also have to look at the screen for the 
source. I want to know what are you using cable or something else I imagine.

I had one of those eight dollar and tennis attached to my TV, I think that's 
what they mean when they're talking about the source. Do you want the Apple 
device on HDMI or otherwise I'd imagine. Happy viewing is completely voiceover 
friendly.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi, before I start a project I won't be able to finish. Just wondering whether 
I will need sighted assistance setting up our new Apple TV. 

 

Thank you. 

 

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Pete Nalda]

Though I *do* hope they keep the 7.25" screen format. I prefer the smaller 
screen for handling, especially on the bus. 

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> On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:02 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> I just bought an iPad mini 4 through my carrier for $20.00 down. And yeah, 
> probably too should've waited. But, all that said, this feels just as snappy 
> as my Mom's iPad Air 2. My thinking is that the A8 drives the 7.25" screen as 
> fast as my Mom's iPad Air 2 drives the 9.25" screen. My .02 worth. Will I 
> upgrade someday? Sure. I had to settle for a 32gb anyway. 
> 
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>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:06 PM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> This is exactly why I was asking if anyone thought they might be releasing a 
>> newer model in the near future. I have no desire to have the larger IPad Air 
>> and I like the fact that you can still hold a mini in one hand which, for 
>> me, makes it easier to use. I don't need blazing fast performance so the 
>> slower processor is not a huge factor to me.
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Evan Reese
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Well, I got my IPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
>> slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
>> carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
>> did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
>> and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
>> unit.
>> Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
>> might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
>> got mine last April.
>> Evan
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
>> to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.
>> 
>> The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
>> have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
>> newer options available.
>> The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
>> you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
>> a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
>> huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
>> hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
>> To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
>> a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
>> difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
>> workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
>> that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
>> less capable device.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>>> On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia  wrote:
>>> Hi Evan,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you.
>>> 
>>> I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while my
>>> 
>>> daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.
>>> 
>>> Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
>>> basis.
>>> 
>>> I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
>>> computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and just
>>> 
>>> use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
>>> latest version won't support it.
>>> 
>>> Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
>>> sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
>>> The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
>>> functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.
>>> 
>>> I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
>>> keep using a tried and true device.
>>> 
>>> I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
>>> all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.
>>> 
>>> Victor
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>> 
>>> Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
>>> what
>>> apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because it
>>> is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
>>> practical
>>> question. If there 

Does any one know if raydium is stil being updated

[wui chin Leong]

Does any one know if raydium for ios i is stil being updated for ios 10?


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RE: IPad Mini 4

[Paula Pinder]

Hi Evan and all

I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.

Best wishes

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Well, as I've already said, chip speed is only one factor when considering a 
device, so there is no argument involving speed by itself.
If I were able to drive, I wouldn't let how fast a car can accelerate be my 
only consideration when deciding on which one to buy.
Someone who is considering an iPad now should definitely think about how 
large a device they want, especially if they're going to be carrying it 
around very much, and also how substantial the likelihood is that new iPads 
will be appearing later this year. If Russ is correct that the rumors say 
nothing about a new iPad Mini, and if size is really important to her, then 
she will have to decide on whether to get the Mini 4, even though it is 
older technology. If size isn't important, then she might want to wait and 
see if new iPads come out in the not too distant future.

Evan
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

I never said that people who currently own a device should upgrade
just because it's a few years old; this discussion is about someone
who wishes to buy a device but isn't sure which one to go for.
I delt with the price and size arguements in a previous message.
Assuming you're buying outright price is against the mini here as it's
more expensive than higher spec iPads. The size, as I have mentioned
multiple times is IMO the one thing the mini has going for it - in
fact in terms of size I prefer it to my air 2.

Out of interest, what are the arguements that can be given when
arguing that the 1.5GHZ CPU found in the A8 is better than the 2.16GHZ
CPU found in the A9X?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese  wrote:

Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price,
and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you
want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a
factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, 
as


I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2,
using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is 
"better"?

Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether
one device is "better" than another, including price and size.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer  wrote:

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed
though.
It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
does better than that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash 
wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
call something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may
want
to wait a while and see if they prove true.

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On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" 
wrote:

I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
full price and have a new model come out in a few months.
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

I never said that people who currently own a device should upgrade
just because it's a few years old; this discussion is about someone
who wishes to buy a device but isn't sure which one to go for.
I delt with the price and size arguements in a previous message.
Assuming you're buying outright price is against the mini here as it's
more expensive than higher spec iPads. The size, as I have mentioned
multiple times is IMO the one thing the mini has going for it - in
fact in terms of size I prefer it to my air 2.

Out of interest, what are the arguements that can be given when
arguing that the 1.5GHZ CPU found in the A8 is better than the 2.16GHZ
CPU found in the A9X?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese  wrote:
> Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price,
> and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you
> want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a
> factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, as
>
> I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2,
> using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is "better"?
> Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether
> one device is "better" than another, including price and size.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Evan,
>
> Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
> genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
> isn't better than the mini 4?
> The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
> The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
> It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
> number than 1.5, there for it is better.
>
> Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
> enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
> makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
> opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
> better CPU than the mini 4.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
> On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
>> onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed
>> though.
>> It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>>
>>> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
>>> better?
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> From: Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>
>>> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
>>> awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
>>> does better than that mini. Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>
 On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash 
 wrote:

 Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
 call something else, it will be a marketing gig.


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>
> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>
> From: Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may
> want
> to wait a while and see if they prove true.
>
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>
>> On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
>> rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
>> full price and have a new model come out in a few months.
>> Marie
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Re: Setting Up Apple TV 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

It's probably worth giving it a go without sighted help. The setup of
the actual Apple TV - E.G. turning on VO, connecting to WiFi etc is
fully accessible, but as has already been mentioned selecting the
source on your TV may not be.

2 possible workarounds:

If you know roughly how to do it but don't know which HDMI port is
which for example, try playing some music on a laptop, connecting it
to the TV and experiment with changing the sources around. When you
hear music disconnect the laptop and connect the Apple TV to the same
input.
Some devices can switch inputs for you. If you have one of these
devices you could turn it on, wait for the input to change and then
disconnect the HDMI cable and connect it to the Apple TV.

Good luck,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Ann Smith  wrote:
> I love my Apple TV. I had cited assistance, just because I couldn't see
> which HDMI port to plug the device into. You also have to look at the screen
> for the source. I want to know what are you using cable or something else I
> imagine.
> I had one of those eight dollar and tennis attached to my TV, I think that's
> what they mean when they're talking about the source. Do you want the Apple
> device on HDMI or otherwise I'd imagine. Happy viewing is completely
> voiceover friendly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, before I start a project I won't be able to finish. Just wondering
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Re: Setting Up Apple TV 4

[Ann Smith]

I love my Apple TV. I had cited assistance, just because I couldn't see which 
HDMI port to plug the device into. You also have to look at the screen for the 
source. I want to know what are you using cable or something else I imagine.
I had one of those eight dollar and tennis attached to my TV, I think that's 
what they mean when they're talking about the source. Do you want the Apple 
device on HDMI or otherwise I'd imagine. Happy viewing is completely voiceover 
friendly.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi, before I start a project I won't be able to finish. Just wondering
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Hi Everyone, 

 

We have a Ta[ and Echo. I want to migrate my music from Apple Music into the
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Re: IPad Mini 4

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Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price, 
and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you 
want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a 
factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, as 
I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2, 
using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is "better"?
Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether 
one device is "better" than another, including price and size.

Evan

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer  wrote:

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though.
It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
does better than that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
call something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want
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I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
full price and have a new model come out in a few months.
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Re: Sounds not Coming Through on Bluetooth Speaker

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Make sure your Bluetooth speaker has the latest firmware update.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

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> DH got me a Bluetooth speaker for Christmas. It's the Anker SoundCore
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> portability is a nice bonus.
> 
> An odd thing happens with things like the timer. I can hear the
> countdown happen, but when the selected sound effect for the timer
> goes off, both the sound effect and VO comes through the iPod Touch's
> external speaker and not the Bluetooth speaker. When I double tap the
> OK button, the all sound reroutes back to the Bluetooth speaker.
> 
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
> onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though.
> It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>
>> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
>> better?
>> Evan
>>
>> From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>
>> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
>> awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
>> does better than that mini. Just a thought.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>
>>> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
>>> call something else, it will be a marketing gig.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

 The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

 From: Devin Prater
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
 Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want
 to wait a while and see if they prove true.

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Hmmm, my iPad Mini 4 has stereo speakers at the bottom, on either side of the 
charging port.
I went for the portability of the Mini, and for the apps I’ve tried so far, 
it’s been working great.
Having come out in September 2015, I would bet it will be supported for several 
years yet.
As to this whole old products thing, I know someone who is still using an iPad 
Mini 2. She uses the BARD Mobile app, listens to described movies on Netflix, 
reads her money, runs the KNFB Reader on it, gets on Facebook, and probably 
more I don’t know about, all with no problems. People should be wary of feeling 
that they need the newest and fastest because it ain’t necessarily so.
Evan
Evan

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:


  When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do 
better?
  Evan

  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

  If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! 
I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better 
than that mini. Just a thought.




  Jenn and Kumi

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:


Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


  The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

  From: Devin Prater 
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
  Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

  There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want 
to wait a while and see if they prove true. 

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  On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie"  wrote:

I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any 
rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full 
price and have a new model come out in a few months.
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Re: Side App Switcher

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I hear this a lot and sometimes in the strangest of times and places.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Fischler

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Side App Switcher

Hey all,

Since the last OS update every now and then I hear Side App switcher after 
launching some apps, but have no clue what this means. Anyone else getting 
this and know what it is referring to? Thanks,


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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Jennie Facer]

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do 
> better?
> Evan
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>  
> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! 
> I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better 
> than that mini. Just a thought.
>  
> 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>> 
>> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
>> something else, it will be a marketing gig.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>>>  
>>> From: Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>  
>>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
>>> wait a while and see if they prove true.
>>> 
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.




Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:


  Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
wait a while and see if they prove true. 

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Jennie Facer]

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
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> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
> something else, it will be a marketing gig.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
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>> From: Devin Prater
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
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>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[TaraPrakash]

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
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> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
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RE: measuring wifi strength with free app

[Chip Orange]

I’ve only used the numbers provided as an indication of relative signal quality 
between one spot and another; or between one router position and another.  I’ve 
never tried to count on them as an indication of real “throughput” of my wifi.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: measuring wifi strength with free app

 

am I doing something wrong? I’m getting speed test results around 450 but if I 
do a speedtest.net I get in the 20’s or 30’s and I only pay for 40 mbps. I 
don’t get it at all.

 

Thanks os much,

Christina

On Dec 4, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Double tap and hold on the record button for a while and it will give you an 
average in MBPS, millibytes per second.

Depending on what speed you are paying for, good could be anything from 25 to 
100...

HTH,
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: measuring wifi strength with free app

Hi Chip,
What would be a good number? Say like what would be Best, Good, Medium, and 
poor?
I have a reading about 122 right at the modem. If I go about 20 feet away with 
nothing in the way it is about 45 and If I go to my wife chair in the living 
room with some walls in the way it is about 55. Even right next to the modem 
with the wifi on it, it very up and down about 40 points and that is holding 
the iPhone about two feet away. What is a normal reading.
Mr. Ed


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: measuring wifi strength with free app

Thanks, Chip. Well, that was depressing, testing that app. I knew my downstairs 
signal was lousy, but I didn't know how lousy. Now I do.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Chip Orange  wrote:

Hi all,



Just an FYI that I came across a very handy free app which helps you 
measure your wifi strength and throughput at a given spot; the app is 
named "wifi sweet spot" and is free, and even has an audio output mode 
which generates beeps similar to a "giger counter" to indicate the 
current strength (note that the label for the button to turn audio 
mode on/off does disappear after the first use, but you should have no 
trouble identifying the button even so).  It also has a numeric 
constant display which gives you more presice info.



You can use it to map out weak areas in your house, or to allow you to 
reposition your wifi router and see what effect this has on signal at 
a given point.



This helped me determine that repositioning my router just slightly 
within the closet where it resides makes a big difference in some of 
the weaker areas of my house (where I was having difficulty placing an Echo).



Hth,



Chip



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Re: My messages

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone who let me know about my messages.

I just wanted to say thank you to all of you. I really appreciate it. I was 
very concerned that for some reason, they were not getting to the list.

I hope everybody has a great weekend. If you are dealing with a bad ice storm, 
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> wrote:

Got it.



Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My messages

Hello everyone,

I was just wondering, are my messages getting to the list?
In the last few days, I have sent maybe 3 messages. But I never get responses.

So I don't know if you all just don't have answers for me, or if I am having 
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So if any of you see this, could you please just respond to me privately, and 
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RE: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

[Richard Turner]

Which is why I would use Voice Dream Reader since you can easily place 
bookmarks wherever you like.
Can you adjust the playback speed when using Dropbox?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

In Dropbox, I can go into a completely different folder and listen to a podcast 
or another book and then back into the book I was first in and it will pick up  
where I left off. You can also flick up and down in the area measuring the time 
and go to different locations in the file. The only thing I can't do which I 
wish I could is place a bookmark in an area that I might want to go back to for 
information.

In that case, I just look at the time location and make a note of it and then I 
know exactly where to move to if I need to find it. A little inconvenient, but 
not too bad.

Vicki

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

Just curious, doesn't it stay where you pause it unless you choose another 
audio file to listen to. Also, I think you might be able open an mp3 in voice 
dream reader.
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From: Terri Stimmel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:00 AM
Subject: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

Hello everyone,

I have some audiobooks in my Dropbox folder. This is how I prefer to put stuff 
on my Ipad.

If the book is all in 1 file, then how can I book mark it, if I need to stop 
reading it for a while?

Thank you,

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RE: iTunes tones

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Open iTunes preferences with control+comma and tab over to the checkbox for 
Show Apple Music Features and uncheck it.
Then shift+tab back to the OK button and hit enter or spacebar.
That solved it for me.

Richard

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Subject: RE: iTunes tones

I have this issue as well.


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2017年1月15日 週日，Richard Turner  寫道﹕

 主題: RE: iTunes tones
 收件人: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
 日期: 2017年1月15日,星期日,上午12:06
 
 I don't have iCloud
 Music enabled, but I will check that to make absolutely
 sure.
 I've never used anything but CD I
 have imported myself.
 I personally do not
 use any subscription music service and I back up to my
 computer, not the cloud.  But, who knows what settings may
 have been changed by Apple.
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent:
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 I believe it might have something to do with
 iCloud music updating itself.
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 robinson" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: iTunes tones
 
 
 >I have no idea, asked
 this, but no one seemed to have a clue.
 >> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Richard
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 tones like it 
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Re: Side App Switcher

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I too would like the answer to this. I have seen it on my iPad mostly and once 
on my phone. I switched it on with my iPad but could not figure out the reason 
for it. Thanks to anyone who can give info about side switcher. 


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RE: iTunes tones

['Ming' via VIPhone]

I have this issue as well.


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2017年1月15日 週日，Richard Turner  寫道﹕

 主題: RE: iTunes tones
 收件人: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
 日期: 2017年1月15日,星期日,上午12:06
 
 I don't have iCloud
 Music enabled, but I will check that to make absolutely
 sure.
 I've never used anything but CD I
 have imported myself.
 I personally do not
 use any subscription music service and I back up to my
 computer, not the cloud.  But, who knows what settings may
 have been changed by Apple.
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 
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 I believe it might have something to do with
 iCloud music updating itself.
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 robinson" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: iTunes tones
 
 
 >I have no idea, asked
 this, but no one seemed to have a clue.
 >> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Richard
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RE: iTunes tones, mystery solved I think.

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Robert,

Well, as gomer Pyle would say, "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise."
Apple, in its infinite wisdom now turns on "Show Apple Music Features" even 
though it has never been turned on before.
I unchecked that option, which is found in settings, general preferences just 
after the library name.
I restored the sound for iTunes in my sound scheme, and no annoying sounds yet.
I'm updating some apps, so I should hear it only when the apps are done 
updating.

Thanks again Robert for mentioning that.  

I love Apple's work on accessibility for the devices, but I find turning 
options on that have never been turned on by the user quite irritating.

Richard


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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes tones

I don't have iCloud Music enabled, but I will check that to make absolutely 
sure.
I've never used anything but CD I have imported myself.
I personally do not use any subscription music service and I back up to my 
computer, not the cloud.  But, who knows what settings may have been changed by 
Apple.

Thanks,
Richard


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I believe it might have something to do with iCloud music updating itself.
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Subject: Re: iTunes tones


>I have no idea, asked this, but no one seemed to have a clue.
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Richard Turner 
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[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I can't get BSI to work in the message body of the Inbox app. The dot
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I'm using an iPodTouch with IOS9.3.

Has anyone else had this problem? Who should I contact?

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RE: iTunes tones

[Richard Turner]

I don't have iCloud Music enabled, but I will check that to make absolutely 
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I personally do not use any subscription music service and I back up to my 
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Thanks,
Richard


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I believe it might have something to do with iCloud music updating itself.
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To: 
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Subject: Re: iTunes tones


>I have no idea, asked this, but no one seemed to have a clue.
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Re: Adding a song to an existing playlist in apple music

[Kimber Gardner]

Huh, that explains why it only sometimes works for me. Thanks for the tip.

In any case, 3D touch makes it easier to add songs to playlists.

On 1/14/17, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> The gesture to initiated 3D touch is a harder single finger press on the
> screen and not a single finger double tap and hold. That latter gesture is
> available whether your device supports 3D touch or not.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:17 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>>
>> If you have 3D touch on your phone, you can double tap and hold to bring
>> up a menu that allows you to do several things like play the song or add
>> it to an existing playlist without starting play and going through all
>> those acrobatics.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well.
>>>
>>> I mean that I am having difficulty adding a song from, say, an apple
>>> suggested playlist to an existing playlist I have on my phone. So, if
>>> I have their suggested playlist up, and in swiping right through the
>>> titles of the song, I see one I'd like to add to one of my own
>>> existing playlists, I can't in fact just double tap it, as this will
>>> only make the song start to play. If I do want to add it to an
>>> existing playlist, I have to double tap the song title, which will
>>> make it start playing, then bring up the mini player, find the more
>>> button, and then choose add to playlist. So this means that I am not
>>> actually able to spontaneously add songs to an existing playlist
>>> without actually listening to them. If I recall correctly, this was
>>> not the case in ios9. And if I do flick up and down on a song title,
>>> there is no "more" option--just activate and add to library. am I
>>> making sense? are other people having this difficulty too?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Shermeen
>>>
>>>
 On 1/13/17, Akhil  wrote:
 Hi,
 the entire process will be same except the last final step as you
 described.
 instead of flicking up or down, just double tap and  press long the
 song
 which you'd like to ad to your existing playlist. a dialogue box will
 appear consisting of various options including the add to play list
 option
 which you want. select the desired option and find the playlist by
 flicking

 left or right in which you like to add the selected song. double tap
 the
 selected play list and the song is added to your desired playlist...

 Thanks
 Akhilesh.

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entering solution on blindfold spin solver

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Hello,

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Re: Adding a song to an existing playlist in apple music

[Alan Lemly]

Kimber, 

The gesture to initiated 3D touch is a harder single finger press on the screen 
and not a single finger double tap and hold. That latter gesture is available 
whether your device supports 3D touch or not. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:17 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> If you have 3D touch on your phone, you can double tap and hold to bring up a 
> menu that allows you to do several things like play the song or add it to an 
> existing playlist without starting play and going through all those 
> acrobatics.
> 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well.
>> 
>> I mean that I am having difficulty adding a song from, say, an apple
>> suggested playlist to an existing playlist I have on my phone. So, if
>> I have their suggested playlist up, and in swiping right through the
>> titles of the song, I see one I'd like to add to one of my own
>> existing playlists, I can't in fact just double tap it, as this will
>> only make the song start to play. If I do want to add it to an
>> existing playlist, I have to double tap the song title, which will
>> make it start playing, then bring up the mini player, find the more
>> button, and then choose add to playlist. So this means that I am not
>> actually able to spontaneously add songs to an existing playlist
>> without actually listening to them. If I recall correctly, this was
>> not the case in ios9. And if I do flick up and down on a song title,
>> there is no "more" option--just activate and add to library. am I
>> making sense? are other people having this difficulty too?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Shermeen
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/13/17, Akhil  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> the entire process will be same except the last final step as you
>>> described.
>>> instead of flicking up or down, just double tap and  press long the song
>>> which you'd like to ad to your existing playlist. a dialogue box will
>>> appear consisting of various options including the add to play list option
>>> which you want. select the desired option and find the playlist by flicking
>>> 
>>> left or right in which you like to add the selected song. double tap the
>>> selected play list and the song is added to your desired playlist...
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Akhilesh.
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought my ipad mini 4 when ios 10 was released.  My first generation ipad 
was not able to be updated.  I got a 64gb for the same price as the 32gb.


-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, I got my iPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
unit.
Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
got mine last April.
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.

The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
newer options available.
The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
less capable device.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia  wrote:

Hi Evan,

I agree with you.

I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while 
my


daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.

Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
basis.

I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and 
just


use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
latest version won't support it.

Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.

I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
keep using a tried and true device.

I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
what
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because 
it

is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
practical
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or 
at

least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
practical difference does it make how old it is?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is 
rather

old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that 
you

think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
really old technology by todays standards.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese  wrote:

And there’s also the fact 

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Russ Kiehne]

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to wait 
a while and see if they prove true. 

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On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie"  wrote:

  I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any rumors 
of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full price and 
have a new model come out in a few months.
  Marie

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recommendation for Keyboard case for ipad mini 4

[TaraPrakash]

Dear all.

I am not sure if I asked that question here but I am looking for a keyboard 
folio case for ipad mini 4. What suggestions do I have, ebay and amazon don't 
have too many options for ipad mini 4 for whatever reason, there are plenty for 
1 2 and 3 and other ipad models. 
I will appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks

TaraPrakash


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Question regarding, Braille screen input?

[Dave]

Hi,

I'm late to the party with this braille screen input, thing on iOS, but now 
I've come across it, how do you get spelling suggestions? Does using BSI 
totally get rid of predictions or corrections in texts for example?

If so, which settings, do i need to Change?

Many thanks,

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how do I view my restricted list on Facebook and see who's on it and add or remove people

[Jen .]

hi I am wondering how to view my restricted list on Facebook using either the 
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Re: Adding a song to an existing playlist in apple music

[Kimberly]

If you have 3D touch on your phone, you can double tap and hold to bring up a 
menu that allows you to do several things like play the song or add it to an 
existing playlist without starting play and going through all those acrobatics.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well.
> 
> I mean that I am having difficulty adding a song from, say, an apple
> suggested playlist to an existing playlist I have on my phone. So, if
> I have their suggested playlist up, and in swiping right through the
> titles of the song, I see one I'd like to add to one of my own
> existing playlists, I can't in fact just double tap it, as this will
> only make the song start to play. If I do want to add it to an
> existing playlist, I have to double tap the song title, which will
> make it start playing, then bring up the mini player, find the more
> button, and then choose add to playlist. So this means that I am not
> actually able to spontaneously add songs to an existing playlist
> without actually listening to them. If I recall correctly, this was
> not the case in ios9. And if I do flick up and down on a song title,
> there is no "more" option--just activate and add to library. am I
> making sense? are other people having this difficulty too?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Shermeen
> 
> 
>> On 1/13/17, Akhil  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> the entire process will be same except the last final step as you
>> described.
>> instead of flicking up or down, just double tap and  press long the song
>> which you'd like to ad to your existing playlist. a dialogue box will
>> appear consisting of various options including the add to play list option
>> which you want. select the desired option and find the playlist by flicking
>> 
>> left or right in which you like to add the selected song. double tap the
>> selected play list and the song is added to your desired playlist...
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Akhilesh.
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Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

[Vicki]

In Dropbox, I can go into a completely different folder and listen to a podcast 
or another book and then back into the book I was first in and it will pick up  
where I left off. You can also flick up and down in the area measuring the time 
and go to different locations in the file. The only thing I can't do which I 
wish I could is place a bookmark in an area that I might want to go back to for 
information.

In that case, I just look at the time location and make a note of it and then I 
know exactly where to move to if I need to find it. A little inconvenient, but 
not too bad.

Vicki

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  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox


  Just curious, doesn't it stay where you pause it unless you choose another 
audio file to listen to. Also, I think you might be able open an mp3 in voice 
dream reader.
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From: Terri Stimmel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:00 AM
Subject: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox


Hello everyone,


I have some audiobooks in my Dropbox folder. This is how I prefer to put 
stuff on my Ipad.


If the book is all in 1 file, then how can I book mark it, if I need to 
stop reading it for a while?


Thank you,


Terri


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Re: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox

[Robert Doc Wright]

Just curious, doesn't it stay where you pause it unless you choose another 
audio file to listen to. Also, I think you might be able open an mp3 in voice 
dream reader.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Terri Stimmel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:00 AM
  Subject: Question about reading an audiobook in Dropbox


  Hello everyone,


  I have some audiobooks in my Dropbox folder. This is how I prefer to put 
stuff on my Ipad.


  If the book is all in 1 file, then how can I book mark it, if I need to stop 
reading it for a while?


  Thank you,


  Terri


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Re: iTunes tones

[Robert Doc Wright]

I believe it might have something to do with iCloud music updating itself.
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Subject: Re: iTunes tones



I have no idea, asked this, but no one seemed to have a clue.
On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


Does anyone know why iTunes 12 dot whatever is playing the tones like it 
is done syncing when no devices are connected?


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