RE: Vibrating Alarm?

[Cristóbal]

I use a FitBit Flex for this  specific  purpose. 
My sighted wife uses a wake up light which doesn't bother me and since I'm the 
early bird whereas she hates mornings with the passion of one thousand burnings 
 suns, my Flex is perfect for our situation.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Vibrating Alarm?

Another reason I use Fitbit is because no noise.  It would have 
to be turned up and my wife hates noise.

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From: "Mr.  Ed" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donald Moore
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vibrating Alarm?

Have any of you found a phone alarm that vibrates rather than 
making noise that's speech friendly?

Thanks in advance.

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group distribution in native email account

[R Van Lant]

With some regularity I need to forward information to a large group of people.  
I added each of the contacts to  my Outlook 2010 address book on my laptop and 
then added them to a contact group.  I can send emails to this group when on my 
laptop.  While the individuals show up in my contacts on my phone, the group I 
created does not - or at least I'm not finding it.  On vacation without my 
laptop, I added all 30 people one by one to the message I needed to forward.  
Please tell me there is an easier way?  A google search on the topic gave me a 
recommendation of some contacts app that would aide in this, but I'd rather 
know if there is a way with my existing native contacts and email. Maybe 
downloading the Outlook app is what I need to do?

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Can I watch Amazon Prime movies on my phone?

[R Van Lant]

We subscribed to Amazon Prime and my husband is watching stuff on his laptop.  
Is there an app to do this on the iPhone 6S?


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mail going in to spam folder

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I don't know why but my viphone mail is going in to my spam folder in
outlook in my gmail.  Any idea how to stop it from doing this and to go in
to the inbox instead?  Thanks.

 

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Re: Question Regarding directv now App

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On Jan 15, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
How can you tell what channel you are watching also? 
Hello everyone,


I don't know how many of you use this App. I know a couple of you do, 
because we discuss it.


But I have 1 question at the moment, regarding this App. I honestly 
can't remember if it has already been asked.


You know how certain channels like, TNT, and USA, have audio description?

Well, can you receive this from the Directv Now App?

If so, how would I go about doing this?

I hope it's possible. I love this feature!


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Need help synching Windows contacts with iPhone 5s

[Jeff Samco]

No, I do mean Windows contact manager. I am not running Outlook.
Thanks,
Jeff

At 05:11 PM 1/17/2017, you wrote:

Are you really meaning Outlook Contacts instead of windows?

Cher


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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:27 PM
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Subject: Need help synching Windows contacts with iPhone 5s

I used to be able to sync my Windows contacts with those on my 
iPhone 5s but now cannot. I am current with iTunes and use 
Window-Eyes. Here's what I'm doing:

I connect my iPhone to my laptop running Windows 7.
I Open iTunes and wait for it to fully load.
I open the File menu and select devices. I get options to sync by 
iPhone, transfer purchases, etc.

I arrow and select the sync option.
I used to then tab through various options which included 
information, contacts or something like that. Then I could initiate the sync.

Now, I am prvented from tabbing. Pressing Enter starts the sync.
But neither  my iPhone contacts nor Windows contacts are updated with changes.
Any tips on how to get my contacts to sync?
Thanks,
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RE: Fingerprint ID question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issues here with Touch Id on my 6S Plus, only time it doesn’t work is when 
sometimes my hands are extremely dry and cold or have cuts from woodworking.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprint ID question


Nancy, I" think he was confused about what you were saying. I have a 7 and it 
does the same thing. I know when the phone is turned off that when turned back 
on it requires a pass code. However, I have re-done my fingerprints about 5 
times. They only work for maybe 3 times to get an app or open the lock screen. 
Then phone starts squawking about putting in my code or if an app I need to put 
in my password. This is something new. When 10.2 came out it was fine. now it 
is not. I became so tired of it asking for my code that I turned off my 
fingerprint. However, I wish they'd fix it!

Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Nancy 
mailto:girlyscr...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger print 
ID, that you have to use both?



I'm sorry but Im confused...



nancy'm

On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you for 
the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or the passcode so 
unless you don't want to have to do this unfortunately this is how it works.
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy 
mailto:girlyscr...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Everyone,

I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.


What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving calls, 
but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I get the SE 
to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do with it?


Thanks!

Nancy and her SE

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RE: Need help synching Windows contacts with iPhone 5s

[Cher Bosch]

Are you really meaning Outlook Contacts instead of windows?

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeff Samco
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need help synching Windows contacts with iPhone 5s

 

I used to be able to sync my Windows contacts with those on my iPhone 5s but 
now cannot. I am current with iTunes and use Window-Eyes. Here's what I'm doing:
I connect my iPhone to my laptop running Windows 7.
I Open iTunes and wait for it to fully load.
I open the File menu and select devices. I get options to sync by iPhone, 
transfer purchases, etc.
I arrow and select the sync option.
I used to then tab through various options which included information, contacts 
or something like that. Then I could initiate the sync.
Now, I am prvented from tabbing. Pressing Enter starts the sync.
But neither  my iPhone contacts nor Windows contacts are updated with changes.
Any tips on how to get my contacts to sync?
Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Fingerprint ID question

[regina alvarado]

Nancy, I" think he was confused about what you were saying. I have a 7 and it 
does the same thing. I know when the phone is turned off that when turned back 
on it requires a pass code. However, I have re-done my fingerprints about 5 
times. They only work for maybe 3 times to get an app or open the lock screen. 
Then phone starts squawking about putting in my code or if an app I need to put 
in my password. This is something new. When 10.2 came out it was fine. now it 
is not. I became so tired of it asking for my code that I turned off my 
fingerprint. However, I wish they'd fix it!


Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Nancy  wrote:

Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger print 
ID, that you have to use both?


I'm sorry but Im confused...


nancy'm 

> On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
> Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you 
> for the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or the passcode 
> so unless you don't want to have to do this unfortunately this is how it 
> works.
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>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy  wrote:
>> 
>> Everyone,
>> 
>> I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.
>> 
>> 
>> What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
>> have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving 
>> calls, but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I 
>> get the SE to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do 
>> with it?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Nancy and her SE
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Re: apple music free tryel registration

[Wayne Scott]

I just had it for the free trial then opted out of it.

- Original Message -
From: Aleeha Dudley Yes, because after the trial, you will automatically be billed 
for the next month.


On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Fanus  
wrote:


Hello list
I tried to register but after typing my password there is a 
"buy" button.  Is this normal even for the 3 month tryel?

Regards
Fanus


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RE: Vibrating Alarm?

[Wayne Scott]

Another reason I use Fitbit is because no noise.  It would have 
to be turned up and my wife hates noise.


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From: "Mr.  Ed" I have the TCL Pulse which is a very small device.  It is about 
two inches in diameter and about 3/8 inch thick.  I downloaded 
the TCL Pulse app from the app store.  Just pair it up and put it 
under your pillow.  I guess I put it inside my pillow case on the 
bottom side.  It works great on the vibration mode.  I has three 
vibrations modes.  Also has sound modes but I don't use them as 
they are not loud enough for me with my severe hearing loss.  You 
can buy the device from Amazon.

Mr.  Ed

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Have any of you found a phone alarm that vibrates rather than 
making noise that's speech friendly?


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RE: Vibrating Alarm?

[Wayne Scott]

I know the Apple Watch has one.  I use Fitbit because my wife is 
a very light sleeper.  I just wear the tracker on my wrist.  The 
app is accessible.  Although, the customer service is a pain in 
the neck to deal with.


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner I was curious so I did a google search.  I knew there were alarms 
like this designed for people who are deaf.
I found one at a site that seems to have several, but this one 
might be of interest as you can control it from an iPhone or 
Android.  Most of them would not be accessible to a person who is 
blind, but this one sounds promising.  I put the main web site 
link after the link to the one that works with smart phones.

The smart phone one is called Smart-Shaker Green:

http://www.hearmore.com/store/prodView.asp?idstore=6&idproduct=15
723&product=Smart-Shaker---Green

Hear More web site for vibrating clocks:

http://www.hearmore.com/categories/61/Alarm-Clocks.html

HTH,
Richard


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Have any of you found a phone alarm that vibrates rather than 
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that's speech friendly?

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re: Vibrating Alarm?

[Wayne Scott]

I use Fitbit Tracker.

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making noise

that's speech friendly?

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Re: Fingerprint ID question

[Nancy]

Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger 
print ID, that you have to use both?



I'm sorry but Im confused...


nancy'm


On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking 
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy > wrote:


Everyone,

I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.


What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary 
for me to have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making 
or receiving calls, but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit 
pass code.  How can I get the SE to stop asking me for my pass code 
no matter what I want to do with it?



Thanks!

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Re: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Mary Otten]

I have certainly reported the business about the columns and rows in mail 
reading, both through the beta channel and directly to accessibility at Apple. 
I have not said anything about voiceover reading links, but I have requested 
greater verbosity flexibility for voiceover with regard to web elements, just 
not specifically links. I hope everyone writes to accessibility at Apple to 
wake them up that this is a big deal. If they would read with voiceover, they 
would soon come to understand what a pain it is.Mary


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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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> Has anyone sent this up to Apple for consideration?
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> This is the same problem we have with the rose and columns being announced 
>> that we don't want. I need to add more verbosity flexibility to voiceover on 
>> iOS.
>> Mary
>> PS we all need to write and write and write to accessibility at Apple.com.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book 
>>> in iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
>>> voiceover from saying link?
>>> Please help!
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Scott Berry]

Has anyone sent this up to Apple for consideration?


> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This is the same problem we have with the rose and columns being announced 
> that we don't want. I need to add more verbosity flexibility to voiceover on 
> iOS.
> Mary
> PS we all need to write and write and write to accessibility at Apple.com.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book in 
>> iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
>> voiceover from saying link?
>> Please help!
>> Thanks.
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Mary Otten]

This is the same problem we have with the rose and columns being announced that 
we don't want. I need to add more verbosity flexibility to voiceover on iOS.
Mary
PS we all need to write and write and write to accessibility at Apple.com.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book in 
> iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
> voiceover from saying link?
> Please help!
> Thanks.
> Jen
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RE: native email client questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can still read emails separately, just flick down when you are on the main 
message of a thread until you come to where it says "Expand", then double tap 
and the thread expands and you can read each email, delete it and so on.
I am not beta testing right now but I am prety sure Apple is aware that the 
2-finger flick up doesn't start reading the message body any more and from the 
way it sounds they will bring this back.
I tried the Outlook app for a while and while it is also a nice app, I really 
am used to use the scrub gesture to back out of messages and also out of a 
particular mailbox back to my list of mailboxes and in Outlook you can't do 
this, if I want to get out of my Outlook.com account, for example, so I can 
open my work account I have to tap on the Close button at the top left. It's a 
minor thing, but it's one of these little things which for me are annoying.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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RE: Outlook app

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,

 

What if I may ask is the best way to handel conversations.  I have not found a 
way to expand a conversation  or how to jump from one message to another ion a 
conversation.  Other than that it is a good app.  I using it on my ipod touch.

 

Matthew

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thomas Domville
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook app

 

Hello there,

 

The first question to answer is there a way to adjust the number of lines to 
preview with in the Microsoft Outlook for iOS. The answer is no. What you hear 
for the preview is what you get. Which is quite a bit and I think is longer 
than what Apple Mail gives you. Of course you don't have to do the three 
fingers tap to hear the preview this is automatically read to you as you swipe 
to the mail on Microsoft Outlook which I love and miss in what Apple ripped 
out. Personal preferences of course.

 

Second question is why would I use Microsoft Outlook over Apple Mail. I almost 
have to say you haven't tried this yet I can see. ;)

 

Well perhaps you did. Again, this is a personal preference. What I love out 
Microsoft Outlook for the iOS is that I have many emails and mail boxes. So if 
you have the similar issue and hate having to jump in and out of all of your 
mail boxes. Outlook offers an All Mail and which I totally love. All of my 
emails in all of the mail boxes are displayed on oin one place. No more jumping 
around all over the place. The second thing I like is the what is called the 
Focus and Others. This is a very simple rule based options that Outlook gives 
you to control in what you want to see that is important and not important. For 
example, all of the mail that comes in that I do want to see now I have set up 
to come in the Focus page. All others non-essential mail goes in to my Other 
page. This separate from what I want and those I will deal with at another 
time. You teach which mail that you want to go in to the Focus or Other page. 
So these essential mail from work goes in to my Focus and the mailing list can 
go in to the Other page if you want. The choice is yours. Lastly, under the 
file section you can see all of the attachments that you have in all of your 
mail boxes. At any time you can simply put them in to various cloud services 
like iCloud, Dropbox, Google Drive, and etc. Yes, Apple Mail has this but what 
it doesn't do is that you have a page that shows all of the mail with 
attachments and easily can drop them in to cloud drive and vice versa on the 
fly.

 

Overall, I find the experiences on the Outlook smoother and can handle many 
mail boxes so much easier. Being able to see everything all in one place really 
helps. There are a lot of little things that went in to this design and you 
just won't find in the standard Apple Mail. So if you only have just one mail 
or maybe two. Don't get a lot of mail. It is probably not for you. For those 
with more mail boxes and have to deal with a lot of emails. I really would try 
this out. Its free and you have nothing to lose. Which by the way just because 
it is Microsoft Outlook isn't just for Outlook accounts or exchanges. It will 
work with iCloud, gMail, Outlook, Hotmail, Yahoo, and many other services and 
custom ones like what Apple Mail offers.

 

Regards,

Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Outlook app

 

Anyone know how to change the length of the preview in the outlook app for iOS 

Get Outlook for iOS  

 

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Mama Peach,

I shall go there and look! People have started joining, but not seen any 
messages, apart from my own, hope all is set up ok for them to write in.

Thanks again for your help, much appreciated!

Newly sophisticated, Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 19:47, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> On your page at groups.io, if you hit the letter h to move by headings 
> several times until you hear group addresses, you will find them all there.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> Mama  Peach,
>  
> You are, indeed, a Peach! Thank you, I shall put this under my name in 
> messages in the hopes
>  
> How embarrassing! but I have it now!
>  
> Grazie tante, Sandy.
> vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
> For all your gastronomic glories! For advice on souffles masquerading as 
> pancakes! For that user manual which you just can't access or the best way to 
> keep all your fingers! All welcome, see you there! Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:11, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> Your subscribe address is:
>> vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>  
>> Thank you Mama Peach!
>>  
>> The new group is called:
>> vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
>> I hope I got the right!!
>>  
>> All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it 
>> right, people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that 
>> address, in this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
>> and it will get their message on the list?
>>  
>> I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.
>>  
>> Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
>> thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
>> the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for 
>> VIP cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and 
>> tricks. Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch 
>> of laughter will always be welcome!
>>  
>> Thanks again, Sandy.
>> please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a 
>>> few little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, 
>>> like if you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to 
>>> hold down the control key when clicking on an item to get anything to 
>>> happen.
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>>  
>>> thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting 
>>> for the multitude!
>>> Best wishes, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  
 wrote:
 
  
 Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
 of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A 
 group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups 
 because of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does 
 all you want.
 On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
 groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the 
 list as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues 
 with list management under Yahoo groups.
  
 Good luck.
  
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
> isn’t hard at all.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Sandratomkins 
>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>> 
>> Hallo Lovely People!
>> 
>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and 
>> myself wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs 

Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

On your page at groups.io, if you hit the letter h to move by headings several 
times until you hear group addresses, you will find them all there.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Mama  Peach,

You are, indeed, a Peach! Thank you, I shall put this under my name in 
messages in the hopes

How embarrassing! but I have it now!

Grazie tante, Sandy.
vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
For all your gastronomic glories! For advice on souffles masquerading as 
pancakes! For that user manual which you just can't access or the best way to 
keep all your fingers! All welcome, see you there! Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:11, MamaPeach  wrote:


  Your subscribe address is:
vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

  Thank you Mama Peach!

  The new group is called:
  vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
  I hope I got the right!!

  All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it 
right, people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that 
address, in this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
  and it will get their message on the list?

  I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.

  Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for VIP 
cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and tricks. 
Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch of laughter 
will always be welcome!

  Thanks again, Sandy.
  please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:


If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a 
few little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, 
like if you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold 
down the control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting 
for the multitude!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



  Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a 
list of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A 
group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because 
of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
  On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


  I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know 
Google groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the 
list as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
list management under Yahoo groups. 

  Good luck. 

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sandratomkins 
  Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
  To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
  Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


  Hallo Lovely People!

 A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and 
myself wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared language, 
just for ease of communication.

 Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

 In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, 
indeed, are all or any of you wh

Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Dave,

Here you go!

vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
Thanks to Mama Peach, proof of the value of shared experience!!
Sandy, hope to see you there!!
vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:25, Dave  wrote:
> 
> hi, do you have the subscription address?
>  
> From: MamaPeach
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
> little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like 
> if you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold 
> down the control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
> the multitude!
> Best wishes, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
>> of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A 
>> group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups 
>> because of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all 
>> you want.
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
>> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
>> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
>> list management under Yahoo groups.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
>>> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
>>> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
>>> isn’t hard at all.
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Sandratomkins 
 Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
 To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
 Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
 
 Hallo Lovely People!
 
A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
 wish to start offan email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
 Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps 
 and general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as 
 well. hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
 language, just for ease of communication.
 
Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
 group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail 
 accounts access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
 
In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
 are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are 
 only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
 machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform 
 perfectly well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen 
 on the kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be 
 most welcome!!
 
 Sandy 
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Richard. I appreciate the response. I didn't think so... just thought 
I'd ask. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe there is a way to stop this.
> That is what made some dictionary apps useless because about every word in a 
> definition was cross linked and so you couldn't get through a definition 
> without hearing dozens of "link."
> 
> You will want to contact Apple Accessibility, of course.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:01 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Stop saying links voiceover!!!
> 
> Hi all.
> Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book in 
> iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
> voiceover from saying link?
> Please help!
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
> 
> 
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RE: A2Z Question

[Richard Turner]

I’m glad those steps helped.

I too think it is a great and easy to use app.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry Wells
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A2Z Question

Hi Richard,

Thanks for these great instructions.  I just tried it & had no problems this 
time.  I’m not sure what happened this morning when I had problems...  I use 
dictate so maybe that messed me up.  In any case, thanks for recommending this 
app – its very easy to use & very accessible.

Sherry Wells
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A2Z Question

Hi,
I will go through the steps to make sure we are talking about the same steps.
First, you created your group.
Next, you selected that group.
Next you double tapped on the Send text button.
Now you will be in your group and you hit the next button.
Now, you should be in the Compose Text screen.
Then, write your text.
Now, there is a done button in the upper right, double tap that.
Then, you double tapped on Next again.
Now, you should be in the standard text message screen with the send button 
just above the o and p on the onscreen keyboard.
Double tap that send button and you are finished.

Does that help?

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry Wells
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:39 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: A2Z Question

I downloaded the A2Z app on Richard’s advice & it is very easy to use.  My only 
problem comes after I am finished dictating a text.  I am having lots of 
trouble finding the send button.  After dictating the text I double finger 
double tap to end dictation.  Then I can’t find a send button.  There is a next 
button but that doesn’t seem to get me anywhere.  It seems I have to select 
more info then find it above the keyboard.  I am used to using Ciri to send 
texts so this is a bit frustrating.  Is this what you all do or is there an 
easier way to send when done dictating a text?

Sherry Wells
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RE: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe there is a way to stop this.
That is what made some dictionary apps useless because about every word in a 
definition was cross linked and so you couldn't get through a definition 
without hearing dozens of "link."

You will want to contact Apple Accessibility, of course.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:01 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Stop saying links voiceover!!!

Hi all.
Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book in 
iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
voiceover from saying link?
Please help!
Thanks.
Jen



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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Mama  Peach,

You are, indeed, a Peach! Thank you, I shall put this under my name in 
messages in the hopes

How embarrassing! but I have it now!

Grazie tante, Sandy.
vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
For all your gastronomic glories! For advice on souffles masquerading as 
pancakes! For that user manual which you just can't access or the best way to 
keep all your fingers! All welcome, see you there! Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:11, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> Your subscribe address is:
> vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> Thank you Mama Peach!
>  
> The new group is called:
> vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
> I hope I got the right!!
>  
> All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it 
> right, people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that 
> address, in this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
> and it will get their message on the list?
>  
> I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.
>  
> Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
> thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
> the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for 
> VIP cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and 
> tricks. Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch 
> of laughter will always be welcome!
>  
> Thanks again, Sandy.
> please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
>> little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like 
>> if you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold 
>> down the control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>  
>> thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting 
>> for the multitude!
>> Best wishes, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
>>> of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A 
>>> group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups 
>>> because of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all 
>>> you want.
>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
>>> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
>>> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
>>> list management under Yahoo groups.
>>>  
>>> Good luck.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
 
 In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
 subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
 proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
 isn’t hard at all.
  
 From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
  
 
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Sandratomkins 
> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
> 
> Hallo Lovely People!
> 
>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
> Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps 
> and general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as 
> well. hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
> language, just for ease of communication.
> 
>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
> group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail 
> accounts access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
> 
>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
> are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there 
> are only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my 
> Thermomix machine,

Stop saying links voiceover!!!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
Can someone please help! Lol. My sanity depends on it! I'm reading a book in 
iBooks... this  book has links. A lot of links! Is there a way to stop 
voiceover from saying link?
Please help!
Thanks.
Jen



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Re: A2Z Question

[Sherry Wells]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for these great instructions.  I just tried it & had no problems this 
time.  I’m not sure what happened this morning when I had problems...  I use 
dictate so maybe that messed me up.  In any case, thanks for recommending this 
app – its very easy to use & very accessible.

Sherry Wells
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: A2Z Question

Hi,

I will go through the steps to make sure we are talking about the same steps.

First, you created your group.

Next, you selected that group.

Next you double tapped on the Send text button.

Now you will be in your group and you hit the next button.

Now, you should be in the Compose Text screen.

Then, write your text.

Now, there is a done button in the upper right, double tap that.

Then, you double tapped on Next again.

Now, you should be in the standard text message screen with the send button 
just above the o and p on the onscreen keyboard.

Double tap that send button and you are finished.

 

Does that help?

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry Wells
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:39 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: A2Z Question

 

I downloaded the A2Z app on Richard’s advice & it is very easy to use.  My only 
problem comes after I am finished dictating a text.  I am having lots of 
trouble finding the send button.  After dictating the text I double finger 
double tap to end dictation.  Then I can’t find a send button.  There is a next 
button but that doesn’t seem to get me anywhere.  It seems I have to select 
more info then find it above the keyboard.  I am used to using Ciri to send 
texts so this is a bit frustrating.  Is this what you all do or is there an 
easier way to send when done dictating a text?

 

Sherry Wells

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Re: Fingerprint ID question

[Joseph Hudson]

Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you for 
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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy  wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.
> 
> 
> What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
> have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving calls, 
> but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I get the 
> SE to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do with it?
> 
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> 
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Dave]

hi, do you have the subscription address?

From: MamaPeach 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like if 
you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold down the 
control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



  Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list of 
my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group of 
about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
  On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


  I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

  Good luck. 

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sandratomkins 
  Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
  To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
  Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


  Hallo Lovely People!

 A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We 
are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

 Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

 In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or 
flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

  Sandy 

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Fingerprint ID question

[Nancy]

Everyone,

I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.


What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for 
me to have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or 
receiving calls, but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass 
code.  How can I get the SE to stop asking me for my pass code no matter 
what I want to do with it?



Thanks!

Nancy and her SE

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Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

I got most of my subscribers for my recipe group by using a signature and just 
word of mouth. Most lists don’t like other lists to be advertised on their 
lists.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Thank you Mama Peach!

The new group is called:
vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
I hope I got the right!!

All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it right, 
people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that address, in 
this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
and it will get their message on the list?

I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.

Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for VIP 
cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and tricks. 
Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch of laughter 
will always be welcome!

Thanks again, Sandy.
please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:


  If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like if 
you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold down the 
control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

  thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
  Best wishes, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group 
of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


  In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



  sent from the dark side of the moon

  Begin forwarded message:


From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and 
myself wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared language, 
just for ease of communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, 
indeed, are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there 
are only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly 
well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the 
kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy 

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

Your subscribe address is:
  vipsinthekitchen+subscr...@groups.io
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Thank you Mama Peach!

The new group is called:
vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
I hope I got the right!!

All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it right, 
people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that address, in 
this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
and it will get their message on the list?

I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.

Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for VIP 
cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and tricks. 
Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch of laughter 
will always be welcome!

Thanks again, Sandy.
please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:


  If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like if 
you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold down the 
control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

  thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
  Best wishes, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group 
of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


  In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



  sent from the dark side of the moon

  Begin forwarded message:


From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and 
myself wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared language, 
just for ease of communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, 
indeed, are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there 
are only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly 
well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the 
kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy 

sent from the dark side of the moon
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  The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
list.
   
  If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
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  The archives for this lis

Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

No, there has to be a subscribe address somewhere there.


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Thank you Mama Peach!

The new group is called:
vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
I hope I got the right!!

All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it right, 
people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that address, in 
this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
and it will get their message on the list?

I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.

Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for VIP 
cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and tricks. 
Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch of laughter 
will always be welcome!

Thanks again, Sandy.
please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:


  If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like if 
you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold down the 
control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

  thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
  Best wishes, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group 
of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


  In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



  sent from the dark side of the moon

  Begin forwarded message:


From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and 
myself wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared language, 
just for ease of communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, 
indeed, are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there 
are only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly 
well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the 
kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy 

sent from the dark side of the moon
  -- 
  The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
list.
   
  If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
   
  Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
   
  The archives for this list can b

Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Thank you Mama Peach!

The new group is called:
vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
I hope I got the right!!

All tips and tricks would be most welcome. For example, do I have it right, 
people don't have to subscribe, they just send a message to that address, in 
this case, vipsinthekitc...@groups.io
and it will get their message on the list?

I see links for unsubscribing, but none for subscribing.

Do you have any ideas as to how to get the word out to the public? I am 
thinking to put it in my signature, but who reads down to the signature?  In 
the meanwhile, if anyone is interested in giving it a go, it is a list for VIP 
cooks and non cooks to share experience,techniques,technology tips and tricks. 
Recipes and rememberings of past glories or disasters, a good pinch of laughter 
will always be welcome!

Thanks again, Sandy.
please visit/join vipsinthekitc...@groups.io

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 17:22, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
> little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like 
> if you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold 
> down the control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
> the multitude!
> Best wishes, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list 
>> of my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A 
>> group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups 
>> because of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all 
>> you want.
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
>> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
>> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
>> list management under Yahoo groups.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
>>> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
>>> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
>>> isn’t hard at all.
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Sandratomkins 
 Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
 To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
 Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
 
 Hallo Lovely People!
 
A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
 wish to start offan email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
 Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps 
 and general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as 
 well. hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
 language, just for ease of communication.
 
Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
 group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail 
 accounts access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
 
In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
 are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are 
 only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
 machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform 
 perfectly well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen 
 on the kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be 
 most welcome!!
 
 Sandy 
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>>  
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>  
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>  
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/

Re: native email client questions

[Mary Otten]

Somewhere, possibly on Apple Vis, I recall seeing something about an 
acknowledgment from Apple that this two finger flick up thing was in fact not a 
design change as had been postulated buy some folks in our community. So they 
know what it is, and they know it is broken. Now let's hope they actually fix 
it in a timely manner. It's interesting about the idea of putting your finger 
in the same place on the screen every time to two finger flick down and read a 
message. I find that this does not work all that well, possibly because of 
different length headers? Sometimes it works, and sometimes you hear what you 
think is going to be the start of the message, foot down, and somehow focus has 
gone elsewhere and you here stuff you didn't want. I don't know if it's due to 
a mailing list being used instead of an individual message or what. But I still 
find myself frustrated at the inefficiency of the new method required to read 
messages. That and the unnecessary repetition of row and column numbers in a 
lot of messages. That is a tremendous time waster that they really need to fix, 
and I don't think they get it, based on my correspondence with excess ability. 
They seem to think that's what we want. Or at least of the person I was in 
correspondence with didn't see a problem. I wish they would try reading 
messages that say row X and Collin why every single line. But that's another 
topic.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:00 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have written but will do so again. I also told the gentleman on the phone 
> in accessibility of the problem, though that was not my question to him. 
> However, I wonder if they really understand what we are talking about. He 
> acted like he had no idea what I meant. I explained in steps too. Thus, 
> wonder if they can really fix it even if there are many voices wanting it. 
> Remember, they look at the whole page and can quickly scan the heading. I 
> think it is now 2 or 3 updates with the problem. Thanks for the description 
> of how to find the beginning of a message, though. One thing I noticed they 
> fixed was the first post in conversation is now the one that is the original. 
> It may be the seventh message, but six through one answer it. Happy about 
> that fix.
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
> finger flick up back to read Emails.
> But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
> going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with 
> two fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
> On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the 
> screen where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch 
> anyway.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> , 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: native email client questions
> 
> Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
> open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
> into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read 
> the email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It 
> used to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up 
> with 2 fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post 
> not the heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I 
> probably would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it 
> was nice to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because 
> you use the email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and 
> opinion. Thank you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be 
> confirmed and is there going to be a fix for mail?
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

If you need any help, just let me know and I can maybe help. There are a few 
little tricks  that you have to know when managing a list on groups.io, like if 
you want or need to access certain parts of the site, you have to hold down the 
control key when clicking on an item to get anything to happen.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:



  Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list of 
my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group of 
about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
  On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


  I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

  Good luck. 

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:


In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sandratomkins 
  Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
  To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
  Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


  Hallo Lovely People!

 A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We 
are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

 Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

 In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or 
flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

  Sandy 

  sent from the dark side of the moon
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you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
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you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
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RE: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Richard Turner]

Hello,
No invite came through.
If you send it from the io group address and that address is not subscribed to 
this list, that would explain why it didn’t come through.
If you can find the subscribe Email address and send it to this group from your 
current Email, that should work.
, I’m sure Mark and Cara won’t mind.
Since you are not selling anything or trying to compete, I can’t see any reason 
you shouldn’t just send the info.

HTH,
Richard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado 
mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list of 
my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind 
person. A group of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups 
because of the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see 
if it does all you want.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach 
mailto:mamape...@charter.net>> wrote:
In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe 
list and the subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I 
have not encountered any proglems using the interface, you just have to learn 
how to use it, which isn’t hard at all.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:
From: Sandratomkins 
mailto:sandratomk...@googlemail.com>>
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself wish 
to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We are 
thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, is 
Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access such a 
group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only two 
of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, others 
have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well manually, 
so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or flustered 
by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy

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RE: A2Z Question

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Hi,
I will go through the steps to make sure we are talking about the same steps.
First, you created your group.
Next, you selected that group.
Next you double tapped on the Send text button.
Now you will be in your group and you hit the next button.
Now, you should be in the Compose Text screen.
Then, write your text.
Now, there is a done button in the upper right, double tap that.
Then, you double tapped on Next again.
Now, you should be in the standard text message screen with the send button 
just above the o and p on the onscreen keyboard.
Double tap that send button and you are finished.

Does that help?

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry Wells
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:39 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: A2Z Question

I downloaded the A2Z app on Richard’s advice & it is very easy to use.  My only 
problem comes after I am finished dictating a text.  I am having lots of 
trouble finding the send button.  After dictating the text I double finger 
double tap to end dictation.  Then I can’t find a send button.  There is a next 
button but that doesn’t seem to get me anywhere.  It seems I have to select 
more info then find it above the keyboard.  I am used to using Ciri to send 
texts so this is a bit frustrating.  Is this what you all do or is there an 
easier way to send when done dictating a text?

Sherry Wells
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

thank you! That is what I have done! All is set up. Now I am just waiting for 
the multitude!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 15:05, regina alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list of 
> my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group 
> of about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of 
> the difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
> list management under Yahoo groups. 
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
>> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
>> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
>> isn’t hard at all.
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Sandratomkins 
>>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>> 
>>> Hallo Lovely People!
>>> 
>>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
>>> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
>>> Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
>>> general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
>>> hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
>>> language, just for ease of communication.
>>> 
>>>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
>>> group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
>>> access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
>>> 
>>>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
>>> are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are 
>>> only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
>>> machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform 
>>> perfectly well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen 
>>> on the kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be 
>>> most welcome!!
>>> 
>>> Sandy 
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi!
You might be a list member number one! I have set it up with io groups. not 
quite sure, yet, how it all works… I have tried to send an invitation to this 
list, no idea if that will work or if I will be in trouble for having done so… 
if so, I am very sorry. I shall put the list address after my name, and 
hopefully people can find us there!
sizzling Sandy!

Woops!! No I won't put the address here, I have forgotten it! Please watch this 
space

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 14:51, Ann Smith  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a great list. I was born with retinitis pigmentosa. I have found 
> three bread machines, one ice cream maker, one snowcone maker and other 
> machines.
> That was supposed to have said owned. I would love to get more information on 
> how a blind person uses the QVC rotisserie 12 core air fryer. I have the two 
> PDF documents, but that's not the same as talking to a blind person about it.
> Just talk to Tatian to finger double tap when finished I have the adapted 
> instructions for the air fryer, but finding more recipes that are easy for a 
> blind person to use is kind of tricky. Great idea. Looking forward to joining 
> your list.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
>> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
>> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
>> list management under Yahoo groups. 
>> 
>> Good luck. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
>>> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
>>> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
>>> isn’t hard at all.
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Sandratomkins 
 Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
 To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
 Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
 
 Hallo Lovely People!
 
A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
 wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
 Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps 
 and general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as 
 well. hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
 language, just for ease of communication.
 
Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
 group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail 
 accounts access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
 
In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
 are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are 
 only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
 machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform 
 perfectly well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen 
 on the kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be 
 most welcome!!
 
 Sandy 
 
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Re: native email client questions

[regina alvarado]

I have written but will do so again. I also told the gentleman on the phone in 
accessibility of the problem, though that was not my question to him. However, 
I wonder if they really understand what we are talking about. He acted like he 
had no idea what I meant. I explained in steps too. Thus, wonder if they can 
really fix it even if there are many voices wanting it. Remember, they look at 
the whole page and can quickly scan the heading. I think it is now 2 or 3 
updates with the problem. Thanks for the description of how to find the 
beginning of a message, though. One thing I noticed they fixed was the first 
post in conversation is now the one that is the original. It may be the seventh 
message, but six through one answer it. Happy about that fix.


Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Hi,
Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
finger flick up back to read Emails.
But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with two 
fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the screen 
where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch anyway.

HTH,
Richard

, 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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RE: native email client questions

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
finger flick up back to read Emails.
But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with two 
fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the screen 
where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch anyway.

HTH,
Richard

, 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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native email client questions

[regina alvarado]

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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RE: finger print and location or make it easy

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Come on Sieghard

If someone breaks in your home, they aren’t going to take your phone, and sit 
on the sofa to see your private information. People who breaks in other homes 
gets inside take as much they can, and they run away, they are not going to sit 
in your sofa, take their shoes off and start to check your phone while they 
drinks some wine. As I said, as soon your phone leave your home, it gets block 
right away. I think that block our phones because stealers are going to break 
in our home and sit on the sofa just to check our phones is a little bit 
paranoid. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

 

Hi Pablo,

 

I agree that voice recognition could be something Apple could work on, but I 
certainly wouldn’t want my phone to automatically be unlocked or unsecured just 
because my phone is at home or I am using a bluetooth keyboard that is paired 
with my phone. If somebody breaks into my house this means they have full 
access to my phone and in my opinion this defeats the purpose of a passcode or 
Touch Id.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

 

Hmm,

No, it is not so easy. I mean, it is easy, but sometimes this action could be 
annoying. For example, if I am playing Spotify, the screen gets lock, because I 
don’t want to waste the battery so quick. If I lock the screen, and I want to 
change the type of music that I am playing, I have to walk to my phone, and 
unlock my phone, and research for a different type of music. This example is 
when I have my iPhone connected to my sound system at home. Another example, if 
I am on the bed , sleeping, and my phone is on the table being charged, if I 
want to send a text message to my wife, I need to unlock my phone and send her 
a text message. If I want to use my phone at home, and I just don’t want to 
walk to my phone to unlock it, I would like to give a verbal command, and do 
not need to walk to my phone to unlock it, then give a verbal command. Verbal 
commands sometimes works for things like the weather, or time, or things like 
that, but when the verbal command imply opening an app, it require unlocking 
the screen. It is annoying.

I have a pixel phone, and it has the feature for smart lock. It allow me to 
unlock my phone when I am at home without finger print. As soon I leave my 
home, the phone gets lock automatically. Another great thing that I have found 
in my pixel phone is that the phone could be unlocked when it recognize my 
voice, or when it recognize a Bluetooth device. The smart lock in android allow 
to unlock the phone without finger print for secure location, voice 
recognition, or secure Bluetooth device. With the Bluetooth devices, as soon I 
stop using my Bluetooth keyboard for 5 seconds, the phone gets locked again, if 
I don’t talk to my phone after I unlock my phone through a verbal command, it 
gets locked after 5 seconds. It is really great.

I think that apple should work with these features that of course if you are 
working with your Bluetooth keyboard, why you need to unlock your phone through 
a finger print? You want your phone unlocked as soon you start using the 
keyboard. If you are at home, you are not running the risk that someone will 
steal your personal information at home, well it depends of with who are you 
leaving of course. The voice command is the same thing, if you say ok google, 
and the phone recognize your voice, why you need to take your phone from the 
table to unlock it with your finger print?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

 

No, if a passcode/touch Id is set it needs to be used whether at home or not.

Having said this I rarely find it is inconvenient since it is so easy to unlock 
with Touchg Id.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: finger print and location or make it easy

 

Hi all,

I love the finger print in the iPhone 5s and newer phones. But I am not sure if 
we have the option to avoid the protection when we are at home, or when we talk 
to the phone. Some times when I say “hey Siri”, open Spotify, my phone require 
that I unlock the sc

A2Z Question

[Sherry Wells]

I downloaded the A2Z app on Richard’s advice & it is very easy to use.  My only 
problem comes after I am finished dictating a text.  I am having lots of 
trouble finding the send button.  After dictating the text I double finger 
double tap to end dictation.  Then I can’t find a send button.  There is a next 
button but that doesn’t seem to get me anywhere.  It seems I have to select 
more info then find it above the keyboard.  I am used to using Ciri to send 
texts so this is a bit frustrating.  Is this what you all do or is there an 
easier way to send when done dictating a text?

Sherry Wells

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[regina alvarado]

Talking with moderators from different lists I am on and now having a list of 
my own I think groups.io is the easiest for a totally blind person. A group of 
about 115 members on one group I belong to left googlegroups because of the 
difficulties with it. Go to groups.io and see if it does all you want.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
> isn’t hard at all.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Sandratomkins 
>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>> 
>> Hallo Lovely People!
>> 
>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
>> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. 
>> We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general 
>> shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, 
>> it would be international, but with English as the shared language, just for 
>> ease of communication.
>> 
>>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
>> is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
>> such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
>> 
>>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
>> all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
>> two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
>> others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
>> manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, 
>> or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!
>> 
>> Sandy 
>> 
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Ann Smith]

Sounds like a great list. I was born with retinitis pigmentosa. I have found 
three bread machines, one ice cream maker, one snowcone maker and other 
machines.
That was supposed to have said owned. I would love to get more information on 
how a blind person uses the QVC rotisserie 12 core air fryer. I have the two 
PDF documents, but that's not the same as talking to a blind person about it.
Just talk to Tatian to finger double tap when finished I have the adapted 
instructions for the air fryer, but finding more recipes that are easy for a 
blind person to use is kind of tricky. Great idea. Looking forward to joining 
your list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
> groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list 
> as owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with 
> list management under Yahoo groups. 
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
>> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
>> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
>> isn’t hard at all.
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Sandratomkins 
>>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>>> 
>>> Hallo Lovely People!
>>> 
>>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
>>> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the 
>>> Kitchen. We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and 
>>> general shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. 
>>> hoefully, it would be international, but with English as the shared 
>>> language, just for ease of communication.
>>> 
>>>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
>>> group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
>>> access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
>>> 
>>>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
>>> are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are 
>>> only two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix 
>>> machine, others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform 
>>> perfectly well manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen 
>>> on the kitchen, or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be 
>>> most welcome!!
>>> 
>>> Sandy 
>>> 
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Marie]

I am on a couple of list on Groups.io and they seem to work very well so you 
might want to take a look over there.
Marie


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!


You do not have to have a Gmail address to join a Google list.
I have never started a list, so I do not know if Freelist is easier or not.
Good luck with the list, I'm sure you will find plenty of participants.
Richard





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On Jan 17, 2017, at 5:36 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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  sent from the dark side of the moon

  Begin forwarded message:


From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We 
are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or 
flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy 

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RE: finger print and location or make it easy

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo,

I agree that voice recognition could be something Apple could work on, but I 
certainly wouldn’t want my phone to automatically be unlocked or unsecured just 
because my phone is at home or I am using a bluetooth keyboard that is paired 
with my phone. If somebody breaks into my house this means they have full 
access to my phone and in my opinion this defeats the purpose of a passcode or 
Touch Id.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

Hmm,
No, it is not so easy. I mean, it is easy, but sometimes this action could be 
annoying. For example, if I am playing Spotify, the screen gets lock, because I 
don’t want to waste the battery so quick. If I lock the screen, and I want to 
change the type of music that I am playing, I have to walk to my phone, and 
unlock my phone, and research for a different type of music. This example is 
when I have my iPhone connected to my sound system at home. Another example, if 
I am on the bed , sleeping, and my phone is on the table being charged, if I 
want to send a text message to my wife, I need to unlock my phone and send her 
a text message. If I want to use my phone at home, and I just don’t want to 
walk to my phone to unlock it, I would like to give a verbal command, and do 
not need to walk to my phone to unlock it, then give a verbal command. Verbal 
commands sometimes works for things like the weather, or time, or things like 
that, but when the verbal command imply opening an app, it require unlocking 
the screen. It is annoying.
I have a pixel phone, and it has the feature for smart lock. It allow me to 
unlock my phone when I am at home without finger print. As soon I leave my 
home, the phone gets lock automatically. Another great thing that I have found 
in my pixel phone is that the phone could be unlocked when it recognize my 
voice, or when it recognize a Bluetooth device. The smart lock in android allow 
to unlock the phone without finger print for secure location, voice 
recognition, or secure Bluetooth device. With the Bluetooth devices, as soon I 
stop using my Bluetooth keyboard for 5 seconds, the phone gets locked again, if 
I don’t talk to my phone after I unlock my phone through a verbal command, it 
gets locked after 5 seconds. It is really great.
I think that apple should work with these features that of course if you are 
working with your Bluetooth keyboard, why you need to unlock your phone through 
a finger print? You want your phone unlocked as soon you start using the 
keyboard. If you are at home, you are not running the risk that someone will 
steal your personal information at home, well it depends of with who are you 
leaving of course. The voice command is the same thing, if you say ok google, 
and the phone recognize your voice, why you need to take your phone from the 
table to unlock it with your finger print?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

No, if a passcode/touch Id is set it needs to be used whether at home or not.
Having said this I rarely find it is inconvenient since it is so easy to unlock 
with Touchg Id.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: finger print and location or make it easy

Hi all,
I love the finger print in the iPhone 5s and newer phones. But I am not sure if 
we have the option to avoid the protection when we are at home, or when we talk 
to the phone. Some times when I say “hey Siri”, open Spotify, my phone require 
that I unlock the screen with the finger print or a password. But if I am at 
home, there is no a way to make it easier?

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RE: finger print and location or make it easy

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Hmm,

No, it is not so easy. I mean, it is easy, but sometimes this action could be 
annoying. For example, if I am playing Spotify, the screen gets lock, because I 
don’t want to waste the battery so quick. If I lock the screen, and I want to 
change the type of music that I am playing, I have to walk to my phone, and 
unlock my phone, and research for a different type of music. This example is 
when I have my iPhone connected to my sound system at home. Another example, if 
I am on the bed , sleeping, and my phone is on the table being charged, if I 
want to send a text message to my wife, I need to unlock my phone and send her 
a text message. If I want to use my phone at home, and I just don’t want to 
walk to my phone to unlock it, I would like to give a verbal command, and do 
not need to walk to my phone to unlock it, then give a verbal command. Verbal 
commands sometimes works for things like the weather, or time, or things like 
that, but when the verbal command imply opening an app, it require unlocking 
the screen. It is annoying.

I have a pixel phone, and it has the feature for smart lock. It allow me to 
unlock my phone when I am at home without finger print. As soon I leave my 
home, the phone gets lock automatically. Another great thing that I have found 
in my pixel phone is that the phone could be unlocked when it recognize my 
voice, or when it recognize a Bluetooth device. The smart lock in android allow 
to unlock the phone without finger print for secure location, voice 
recognition, or secure Bluetooth device. With the Bluetooth devices, as soon I 
stop using my Bluetooth keyboard for 5 seconds, the phone gets locked again, if 
I don’t talk to my phone after I unlock my phone through a verbal command, it 
gets locked after 5 seconds. It is really great.

I think that apple should work with these features that of course if you are 
working with your Bluetooth keyboard, why you need to unlock your phone through 
a finger print? You want your phone unlocked as soon you start using the 
keyboard. If you are at home, you are not running the risk that someone will 
steal your personal information at home, well it depends of with who are you 
leaving of course. The voice command is the same thing, if you say ok google, 
and the phone recognize your voice, why you need to take your phone from the 
table to unlock it with your finger print?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finger print and location or make it easy

 

No, if a passcode/touch Id is set it needs to be used whether at home or not.

Having said this I rarely find it is inconvenient since it is so easy to unlock 
with Touchg Id.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: finger print and location or make it easy

 

Hi all,

I love the finger print in the iPhone 5s and newer phones. But I am not sure if 
we have the option to avoid the protection when we are at home, or when we talk 
to the phone. Some times when I say “hey Siri”, open Spotify, my phone require 
that I unlock the screen with the finger print or a password. But if I am at 
home, there is no a way to make it easier?

 

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Alan Lemly]

I'd second Mama Peach and suggest groups. Io for a new list. I know Google 
groups is easy to subscribe to via email but I'm not sure managing the list as 
owner is totally accessible. I know there are accessibility issues with list 
management under Yahoo groups. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
> isn’t hard at all.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> 
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> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Sandratomkins 
>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>> 
>> Hallo Lovely People!
>> 
>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
>> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. 
>> We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general 
>> shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, 
>> it wouldbe international, but with English as the shared language, just 
>> for ease of communication.
>> 
>>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
>> is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
>> such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
>> 
>>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
>> all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
>> two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
>> others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
>> manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, 
>> or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!
>> 
>> Sandy 
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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

Yeah, probably.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

thanks for all this advice,
I should have said, I will be limited to using my iPhone for this and ever, 
does that make a difference?
Thanks again, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 17 Jan 2017, at 14:02, MamaPeach  wrote:


  In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems 
using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at 
all.

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



  sent from the dark side of the moon

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From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We 
are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new 
group, is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts 
access such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, 
are all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or 
flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy 

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

thanks for all this advice,
I should have said, I will be limited to using my iPhone for this and ever, 
does that make a difference?
Thanks again, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 14:02, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the 
> subgroup for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any 
> proglems using the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which 
> isn’t hard at all.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>  
> 
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> sent from the dark side of the moon
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Sandratomkins 
>> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
>> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
>> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
>> 
>> Hallo Lovely People!
>> 
>>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
>> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. 
>> We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general 
>> shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, 
>> it would be international, but with English as the shared language, just for 
>> ease of communication.
>> 
>>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
>> is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
>> such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
>> 
>>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
>> all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
>> two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
>> others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
>> manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, 
>> or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!
>> 
>> Sandy 
>> 
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RE: RE: Outlook app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can delete all messages in the Trash mailbox at once. I always wondered why 
people would want to delete all messages in your main Inbox because my business 
as well as my main personal email accounts always have some messages in the 
Inbox as I am dealing with them and either delete them after reading/replying 
or move them into other permanent folders and of course there are always new 
ones coming in.
Only time I could see how I might want to delete all messages if I maybe 
haven’t had time in a few days to go through the messages of Viphone and the 
Jaws mailing list for which I am using a dedicated email address.

Regardds,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Maslo
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:53 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: RE: Outlook app

With the native email client you are unable to delude all emails at once.

This
 is how I Email now



On Jan 16, 2017 at 22:26, mailto:thomas.domvi...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Hello Mary,

Ah, yes. That would confuse people and I see what you mean. Oh right let me put 
this in to this way. Say I have an Yahoo, Gmail, Outlook, and say a Work 
account. Yes, as like in Apple Mail you can see each of those mail boxes as 
being separate mail boxes. One can jump in to Yahoo. Jump out and go to Gmail 
for the next one. Easy enough. What Outlook does is this. Every email that you 
have in those mail boxes. So every email in the Inbox of Yahoo, Gmail, Outlook 
and my Work account can be displayed in this All Mail Box option. In this All 
Mail Box page. All of those inbox emails are here. No more having to go to each 
mail boxes separately. It sounds messy but really it grew on me in able to see 
everything in one place. Yes, Outlook does have the option to see those 
separate mail boxes as you have in Apple Mail.

For me I have a personal mail account, a junk mail account, two AppleVis mail 
account, and a work mail account. Putting this all together just makes my life 
easier and faster. Just respond back to the email and it will send it by which 
inbox it came from.

Good question! Sorry for the confusion. ;)

Regards,
Thomas





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Outlook app

Thomas, I lost you when you were talking about the advantage of Outlook because 
you can see all your mail in one box. You can do that with apple mail. And you 
have your boxes separate. I have an inbox where I see my Gmail, my Comcast 
mail, and my iCloud mail all in one box. And I have my separate boxes, each 
with its own folders if I want. So in that respect, I see no advantage to 
Outlook. If I were to use Outlook, what I be able to have my separate boxes? If 
not, that is a dealbreaker.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Thomas Domville 
mailto:thomas.domvi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello there,

The first question to answer is there a way to adjust the number of lines to 
preview with in the Microsoft Outlook for iOS. The answer is no. What you hear 
for the preview is what you get. Which is quite a bit and I think is longer 
than what Apple Mail gives you. Of course you don't have to do the three 
fingers tap to hear the preview this is automatically read to you as you swipe 
to the mail on Microsoft Outlook which I love and miss in what Apple ripped 
out. Personal preferences of course.

Second question is why would I use Microsoft Outlook over Apple Mail. I almost 
have to say you haven't tried this yet I can see. ;)

Well perhaps you did. Again, this is a personal preference. What I love out 
Microsoft Outlook for the iOS is that I have many emails and mail boxes. So if 
you have the similar issue and hate having to jump in and out of all of your 
mail boxes. Outlook offers an All Mail and which I totally love. All of my 
emails in all of the mail boxes are displayed on oin one place. No more jumping 
around all over the place. The second thing I like is the what is called the 
Focus and Others. This is a very simple rule based options that Outlook gives 
you to control in what you want to see that is important and not important. For 
example, all of the mail that comes in that I do want to see now I have set up 
to come in the Focus page. All others non-essential mail goes in to my Other 
page. This separate from what I want and those I will deal with at another 
time. You teach which mail that you want to go in to the Focus or Other page. 
So these essential mail from work goes in to my Focus and the mailing list can 
go in to the Other page if you want. The choice is yours. Lastly, under the 
file section you can see all of the attachments that you have in all of your 
mail boxes. At any time you can simply put them in t

Re: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[MamaPeach]

In my opinion, groups.io is much easier. I have my recipe list and the subgroup 
for that list hosted at groups.io. I have not encountered any proglems using 
the interface, you just have to learn how to use it, which isn’t hard at all.

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sandratomkins 
  Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
  To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
  Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!


  Hallo Lovely People!

 A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We 
are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

 Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

 In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only two 
of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, others 
have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well manually, 
so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or flustered 
by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

  Sandy 

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Re: Starting up a new email list, need help!

[Richard Turner]

You do not have to have a Gmail address to join a Google list.
I have never started a list, so I do not know if Freelist is easier or not.
Good luck with the list, I'm sure you will find plenty of participants.
Richard



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On Jan 17, 2017, at 5:36 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:

From: Sandratomkins 
mailto:sandratomk...@googlemail.com>>
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Hallo Lovely People!

   A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself wish 
to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We are 
thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

   Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, is 
Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access such a 
group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

   In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only two 
of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, others 
have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well manually, 
so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or flustered 
by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy

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Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sandratomkins 
> Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
> To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
> Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!
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> Hallo Lovely People!
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>A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself 
> wish to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. 
> We are thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general 
> shared experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, 
> it would be international, but with English as the shared language, just for 
> ease of communication.
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>Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
> is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
> such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?
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>In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
> all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only 
> two of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, 
> others have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well 
> manually, so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, 
> or flustered by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!
> 
> Sandy 
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Re: RE: Outlook app

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With the native email client you are unable to delude all emails at once.  
   
 
 

 
 
   This 
(https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id922793622?pt=814382&mt=8&ct=how_i_email)
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> being separate mail boxes. One can jump in to Yahoo. Jump out and go to Gmail 
> for the next one. Easy enough. What Outlook does is this. Every email that 
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> Outlook and my Work account can be displayed in this All Mail Box option. In 
> this All Mail Box page. All of those inbox emails are here. No more having to 
> go to each mail boxes separately. It sounds messy but really it grew on me in 
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> mail. And you have your boxes separate. I have an inbox where I see my Gmail, 
> my Comcast mail, and my iCloud mail all in one box. And I have my separate 
> boxes, each with its own folders if I want. So in that respect, I see no 
> advantage to Outlook. If I were to use Outlook, what I be able to have my 
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> > to preview with in the Microsoft Outlook for iOS. The answer is no. What 
> > you hear for the preview is what you get. Which is quite a bit and I think 
> > is longer than what Apple Mail gives you. Of course you don't have to do 
> > the three fingers tap to hear the preview this is automatically read to you 
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> > your mail boxes. Outlook offers an All Mail and which I totally love. All 
> > of my emails in all of the mail boxes are displayed on oin one place. No 
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> > is called the Focus and Others. This is a very simple rule based options 
> > that Outlook gives you to control in what you want to see that is important 
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> > want to see now I have set up to come in the Focus page. All others 
> > non-essential mail goes in to my Other page. This separate from what I want 
> > and those I will deal with at another time. You teach which mail that you 
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ailing  list can go in to the Other page if you want. The choice is yours. 
Lastly, under the file section you can see all of the attachments that you have 
in all of your mail boxes. At any time you can simply put them in to various 
cloud services like iCloud, Dropbox, Google Drive, and etc. Yes, Apple Mail has 
this but what it doesn't do is that you have a page that shows all of the mail 
with attachments and easily can drop them