performing double tap and hold on braille dissplay

2017-11-01 Thread Amirudin Abdullah
hi,
How  to perform the gester double tap and hold? i know for long press, it's 
dots 3 6 7 8 space, but i need to long press and hold. any help?  for example, 
on whats app we need to record voice messages, we need   to double tap and hold 
the voice message button. thanks. 

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e: rambo.udin@gmail.Maybe it would be smaller for those of you upgrading from 
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Questions regarding Blindfold games

2017-11-01 Thread Terri Stimmel
Hello everyone,


I like to play some games on my phone, from time to time. Such as 
Farkle, from Dice World. And I used to play Word Association 2.


However, I decided to install the blindfold app the other day.

But what I don't get is, if you install the app, then if you want to 
play a certain game, you have to install this.

Why is that?

And is it like this with every game?


Also, there is a phrase game I have been attempting to play. I can't 
think of the exact name of it at the moment. But I am hoping some of you 
will know what I am talking about.


Anyway, if 1 phrase is, Cuddly as a, kitten. How do you know, or find 
out which 1 is kitten?

Every time I think I understand it and I am doing well, I'm not!


Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: performing double tap and hold on braille dissplay

2017-11-01 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎
Hi! In WhatsApp this gestures dnot  work., you have to dpress double tapwith 
the finger and hold.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-1 בנוב׳ 2017, בשעה 9:07, ‏‏Amirudin Abdullah ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> hi,
> How  to perform the gester double tap and hold? i know for long press, it's 
> dots 3 6 7 8 space, but i need to long press and hold. any help?  for 
> example, on whats app we need to record voice messages, we need   to double 
> tap and hold the voice message button. thanks. 
> 
> ―—
> —―
> امير الدين
> e: rambo.udin@gmail.Maybe it would be smaller for those of you upgrading from 
> 11.0.3. 
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Re: Questions regarding Blindfold games

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Terry, with every game you wish to play you have to download it I cannot 
help you with the phrase game as I never played it.  sorry if that is of no 
use.  Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Blindfold games

Hello everyone,


I like to play some games on my phone, from time to time. Such as
Farkle, from Dice World. And I used to play Word Association 2.


However, I decided to install the blindfold app the other day.

But what I don't get is, if you install the app, then if you want to
play a certain game, you have to install this.

Why is that?

And is it like this with every game?


Also, there is a phrase game I have been attempting to play. I can't
think of the exact name of it at the moment. But I am hoping some of you
will know what I am talking about.


Anyway, if 1 phrase is, Cuddly as a, kitten. How do you know, or find
out which 1 is kitten?

Every time I think I understand it and I am doing well, I'm not!


Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Questions regarding Blindfold games

2017-11-01 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎
Hi, i know what do you mean. It’s cold “blindfold Fortune wheel”

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-1 בנוב׳ 2017, בשעה 9:18, ‏‏Terri Stimmel ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I like to play some games on my phone, from time to time. Such as 
> Farkle, from Dice World. And I used to play Word Association 2.
> 
> 
> However, I decided to install the blindfold app the other day.
> 
> But what I don't get is, if you install the app, then if you want to 
> play a certain game, you have to install this.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> And is it like this with every game?
> 
> 
> Also, there is a phrase game I have been attempting to play. I can't 
> think of the exact name of it at the moment. But I am hoping some of you 
> will know what I am talking about.
> 
> 
> Anyway, if 1 phrase is, Cuddly as a, kitten. How do you know, or find 
> out which 1 is kitten?
> 
> Every time I think I understand it and I am doing well, I'm not!
> 
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Accessibility of Uber app

2017-11-01 Thread Pablo Morales
Good morning all,

I am comparing the functionality of the Uber app on android vs IOs. However
I  would like to know what are your good and bad experiences  using the Uber
app on IOs?

I have a pixel, and I have found some problems. However I would like to see
if the problems are the same, or how is the IOs picture regarding the
accessibility on the Uber app.

Thanks for all,

 

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Re: gesters for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread Rafał Marzec
I just wondering why someone from Applevis  team do not try to ask for some 
model to review
Since last two days you can find many reviewers on YouTube Who try to show this 
phone
I understand that most of them re representing some press portals
But none of them do not test the accessibility
Applevis it’s the most known accessibility Apple products source for blind 
community 

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> Hi guys,
>  
> I have a few questions about the new iPhone X.
> I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
> found some information about this new device.
> I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand 
> that to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app 
> do another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?
> I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
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RE: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone
We haven't got the TV app in the U.K.


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Dave
Sent: 01 November 2017 00:00
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Subject: Re: 11.1

it hasn't been there in all countries

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Simon,
Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there all 
along. Thank you, Doug

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> Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone, 
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Re: Finding a wireless printer for my iPhone

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner

We have the Brother HL-L2360D series printer. It is a Laser printer, so only 
black print, no color. Laser printers cost less per page to use. You will need 
sighted help to set it up, but it works great. It holds up to 250 sheets of 
paper, prints about 32 pages per minute I think, so it is very fast and it can 
print double sided. It is not a scanner, or fax, etc., just a printer. It can 
be used via usb or wireless with Windows, and works great with the iPhone over 
WiFi.
I believe we paid about $130 when we bought it.
The model number may have changed, but there are lots of wireless printers out 
there that will work with both iPhones and Windows machines.
HTH,
Richard


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On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello all,


I would like to purchase a wireless printer to use with my iPhone SE.


Can anyone please give me some ideas as to what is out there?

Also it would need to be able to work with windows 7. Of course, the
more easier it is to work, or more accessible it is, the better.

Also, I am not looking for something too high in price. I won't use it a
lot. I just feel it may be a good investment.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread Donna
For me the Tv app is useless. The app is to make movie viewing apps to be found 
in one general app for easier access. I have a media folder that I created that 
serves the same purpose. 

Donna
> 
> We haven't got the TV app in the U.K.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> it hasn't been there in all countries
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Simon,
> Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there all 
> along. Thank you, Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Simon Wong  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone, 
>> according to what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iOS 11.1 built number

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Thanks, Richard, that does match with iO?S 11.1 Public Beta 5 (I think at least 
there were 5 public betas).
I think if I keep my provisioning profile I should automatically get new betas, 
do you happen to know if that is the case or do I need to delete it and 
re-enroll my device for the next set of beta testing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:31 PM
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Subject: Re: iOS 11.1 built number


here you go Sieghard,
The official 11.1 build is:
 11.1 (15B93)


Richard
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On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Could somebody who updated to the official iOS 11.1 release post the built 
number? You can find this in Settings > General > About
I assume the last beta release is the same as the public release, but wanted to 
verify this.

Thanks,
Sieghard

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Betatesting and restoring iPhones?

2017-11-01 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Suppose I'm enrolled in the Betatesting program for iOS, and i need to 
for some reason, restart my phone from scratch, or I buy a newer model. 
With what iOS will the phone run? the iOS Beta, or the iOS official 
release? Hope this makes sense.


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Re: Questions regarding Blindfold games

2017-11-01 Thread Donna
Sounds as though you just have the Blindfold app. This app puts all of the 
blindfold games into one app for ease of finding the game you wish to play. 
Each app listed within the Blindfold app has to be downloaded before the game 
can be played. 

Im not sure about your second question. I think you may be referring to 7 
little words or clever clues. 

Donna
> 
> Hi, i know what do you mean. It’s cold “blindfold Fortune wheel”
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-1 בנוב׳ 2017, בשעה 9:18, ‏‏Terri Stimmel ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I like to play some games on my phone, from time to time. Such as 
>> Farkle, from Dice World. And I used to play Word Association 2.
>> 
>> 
>> However, I decided to install the blindfold app the other day.
>> 
>> But what I don't get is, if you install the app, then if you want to 
>> play a certain game, you have to install this.
>> 
>> Why is that?
>> 
>> And is it like this with every game?
>> 
>> 
>> Also, there is a phrase game I have been attempting to play. I can't 
>> think of the exact name of it at the moment. But I am hoping some of you 
>> will know what I am talking about.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, if 1 phrase is, Cuddly as a, kitten. How do you know, or find 
>> out which 1 is kitten?
>> 
>> Every time I think I understand it and I am doing well, I'm not!
>> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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RE: Accessibility of Uber app

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,

I think it would help if you described what the challenges are you experience 
with the Uber app on Android.
I am currently in Calgary and only get to use Uber here since in the small town 
where I live there is no Uber and probably there won’t be 10 years from now, 
likewise Vancouver still does not have Ueber and while our new provincial 
government promised during the election they would get Uber to Vancouver by the 
fall (now) they have recently gone back on that promise… what a surprise, 
governments never do that, right?
Anyhow, I have no issues with how I use the Uber app on iOS, I just type in the 
address or the place where I want to go, look at the cost and if I like it I 
order the car and pay with Apple Pay.
Since I don’t live here and usually order a car when I’m at this huge tower 
that is part of the very large Foothills Medical Centre or I’m maybe at a mall, 
I always simply contact the driver after I order the car (I prefer to call 
instead of sending a text) and tell him exactly where to find me and that he 
needs to look for and identify himself to a guy with a yellow lab guide dog 
since I won’t be able to see him arrive.
This always works great.

I also recently used Uber Eats just because I wanted to try it out. At first I 
had some problems selecting two side dishes which were included, they were also 
all listed with costs and while Voiceover said “selected” when I double tapped 
“fries” and the other one I chose, I thought maybe I had to also tap the one 
with the cost. This was sort of my fault since I then realized I ordered fries 
which were included with the meal as well as a second order of fries for $3. My 
wife removed this since at first I couldn’t figure out how to remove something 
from the cart during checkout, but I think I have since noticed I can simply 
use the action rotor for this.
Unfortunately the restaurant I chose, a mexican place, was a bit far away and 
while it said the food would arrive in 30 to 40 minutes it took just under an 
hour (the estimated time of arrival at first showed as 6:57 PM, then changed to 
a bit earlier and then it changed to 7:06, 7:12, 7:20 and finally he arrived at 
7:27, just about an entire hour after I placed the order). By that time the 
fries were a limp, soggy mess and the berito which was not listed as being 
spicy was so hot that my wife couldn’t eat it. Now that I know how this works I 
might try it again and choose a restaurant nearer to where I am which shows a 
shorter delivery time and maybe pick something which doesn’t include fries. 
Let’s say my first experience certainly wasn’t positive both in terms of the 
food (not the fault of the service) but also not in terms of the delivery time.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 3:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessibility of Uber app

Good morning all,
I am comparing the functionality of the Uber app on android vs IOs. However I  
would like to know what are your good and bad experiences  using the Uber app 
on IOs?
I have a pixel, and I have found some problems. However I would like to see if 
the problems are the same, or how is the IOs picture regarding the 
accessibility on the Uber app.
Thanks for all,

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RE: Betatesting and restoring iPhones?

2017-11-01 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Well the only way I can answer your question is to describe the situation that 
happened to me last week.

On 23Rd October  I was running an iPhone5S that had the latest iOS11.1 beta 
installed on it.

On Tuesday 24Th I received a new iPhone7.  This had iOS10.3 installed.

Having activated the phone I was unable to restore a backup I had made with my 
5S until I downloaded and installed iOS11.1.  To do this I had first to enrole 
the new iPhone7 with Apple's beta program.

If you do a reset of your phone it will retain your iOS unless you use the 
recovery mode with iTunes which will download the apply the latest official 
release for your model.

Hope this has answered your questions.
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Subject: Betatesting and restoring iPhones?

Suppose I'm enrolled in the Betatesting program for iOS, and i need to for some 
reason, restart my phone from scratch, or I buy a newer model. 
With what iOS will the phone run? the iOS Beta, or the iOS official release? 
Hope this makes sense.

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RE: gesters for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I doubt Apple would give an iPhone X to somebody from Applevis, they don’t rank 
quite as high as the Verge or CNET, don’t forget that this phone is not yet 
available to the public.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rafal Marzec
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesters for iPhone X

I just wondering why someone from Applevis  team do not try to ask for some 
model to review
Since last two days you can find many reviewers on YouTube Who try to show this 
phone
I understand that most of them re representing some press portals
But none of them do not test the accessibility
Applevis it’s the most known accessibility Apple products source for blind 
community

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Nov 2017, at 1:23 am, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi guys,

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X.
I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.
I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?
I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?
Thanks

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Activating an iPhone without a SIM can it be done?

2017-11-01 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Is it possible to activate an iPhone without a SIM card installed?

 

Thanks.

 

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RE: Activating an iPhone without a SIM can it be done?

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
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Is it possible to activate an iPhone without a SIM card installed?

Thanks.

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increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and change 
the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was able 
to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did this 
really happen.  Janet

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Re: Accessibility of Uber app

2017-11-01 Thread Tom Lange
Hi Pablo,
My experiences with the Uber app have been Positive, once I got the hang of the 
interface. However, about a month ago I needed to ges somewhere fairly quickly 
and no matter what I did I couldn’t find a way to select Uber Pool or UberX. I 
had to go with Select, which, although it was nice, cost me considerably more 
money and almost caused me to quit using the app. I realize now that I wasn’t 
clear on how to switch pages so that I could find UberX, so I attribute that 
experience to user error, the proverbial brain fart. Oh well; lesson learned. I 
took Uber twice last weekend and on one of those trips I saw no option for 
contacting the driver, which I routinely do when using Uber. Can anyone tell me 
why that option was unavailable? Thanks,
Tom

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> I think it would help if you described what the challenges are you experience 
> with the Uber app on Android.
> I am currently in Calgary and only get to use Uber here since in the small 
> town where I live there is no Uber and probably there won’t be 10 years from 
> now, likewise Vancouver still does not have Ueber and while our new 
> provincial government promised during the election they would get Uber to 
> Vancouver by the fall (now) they have recently gone back on that promise… 
> what a surprise, governments never do that, right?
> Anyhow, I have no issues with how I use the Uber app on iOS, I just type in 
> the address or the place where I want to go, look at the cost and if I like 
> it I order the car and pay with Apple Pay.
> Since I don’t live here and usually order a car when I’m at this huge tower 
> that is part of the very large Foothills Medical Centre or I’m maybe at a 
> mall, I always simply contact the driver after I order the car (I prefer to 
> call instead of sending a text) and tell him exactly where to find me and 
> that he needs to look for and identify himself to a guy with a yellow lab 
> guide dog since I won’t be able to see him arrive.
> This always works great.
>  
> I also recently used Uber Eats just because I wanted to try it out. At first 
> I had some problems selecting two side dishes which were included, they were 
> also all listed with costs and while Voiceover said “selected” when I double 
> tapped “fries” and the other one I chose, I thought maybe I had to also tap 
> the one with the cost. This was sort of my fault since I then realized I 
> ordered fries which were included with the meal as well as a second order of 
> fries for $3. My wife removed this since at first I couldn’t figure out how 
> to remove something from the cart during checkout, but I think I have since 
> noticed I can simply use the action rotor for this.
> Unfortunately the restaurant I chose, a mexican place, was a bit far away and 
> while it said the food would arrive in 30 to 40 minutes it took just under an 
> hour (the estimated time of arrival at first showed as 6:57 PM, then changed 
> to a bit earlier and then it changed to 7:06, 7:12, 7:20 and finally he 
> arrived at 7:27, just about an entire hour after I placed the order). By that 
> time the fries were a limp, soggy mess and the berito which was not listed as 
> being spicy was so hot that my wife couldn’t eat it. Now that I know how this 
> works I might try it again and choose a restaurant nearer to where I am which 
> shows a shorter delivery time and maybe pick something which doesn’t include 
> fries. Let’s say my first experience certainly wasn’t positive both in terms 
> of the food (not the fault of the service) but also not in terms of the 
> delivery time.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 3:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessibility of Uber app
>  
> Good morning all,
> I am comparing the functionality of the Uber app on android vs IOs. However I 
>  would like to know what are your good and bad experiences  using the Uber 
> app on IOs?
> I have a pixel, and I have found some problems. However I would like to see 
> if the problems are the same, or how is the IOs picture regarding the 
> accessibility on the Uber app.
> Thanks for all,
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Re: Text Message Question

2017-11-01 Thread Donna
Go to settings, messages, swipe down & confirm that SMS messaging is turned on. 

Donna
> 
> hi,
>  
> I have a thoguht about this.  is his mobal number the same from his iphone to 
> his android?  I think I remember someone on here a while back saying 
> something about numbers assosiated with iphones  had to be wiped or something 
> it'll still show up as a iphone  in reguards  to immsage and maybe other 
> apple things like facetime.  but, I forget how people said to fix this.  I'm 
> sorry I couldn't be more helpful  but to offer up another reason your sons 
> number is being weird. 
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Kalaluhi
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Text Message Question
> 
> Hi Mike
> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. 
>  
> When I deleted the entire contact and re-entered the information back into 
> contacts, I did select mobile for my son’s phone number.  I even closed or 
> turned off my phone off completely and turned it back on before sending a 
> message to him.  It is still showing up as an IPhone in the message app.  
> What I mean by this is that when you go to messages and select compose,, the 
> box for the text message appears as IMessage rather than text message.  I 
> have only two other contacts who do not use IPhones and when you go to 
> compose a text to them, they say text message rather than IMessage. 
>  
> What I do not get about Apple is how it has a memory like an elephant.  When 
> I hit compose to send a text to my son, and I begin typing his name into the 
> To field, I get an option to send a text to him along with a sister and a 
> couple of cousins from a group text we had going about a month ago.  Even 
> though I deleted the group text, it is still appearing when I type his name 
> or my sister or my couple of cousins into the to field in a text message.  I 
> have to be awfully careful not to pick that as the name I want the message 
> sent.  It could be downright humiliating depending upon who I am complaining 
> about lol.  Just kidding. 
> Ok, thanks so much for your suggestion.  Hope someone else reads my email and 
> has more to add. Have a good evening.
> Kathy
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text Message Question
>  
> Hi Kathy,
>  
> Basically I think what you want to do is change the iPhone label to, Mobile, 
> instead of iPhone.  To do this try the following:
> 1. Open your contacts, navigate to your son's entry,, & double tap to select 
> it.
> 2. Navigate to the, Edit, option, & double tap to open it.
> 3. Now swipe right to the,iPhone button, & double tap to open it.  This is 
> where you change your son's phone label.  Swipe to the, Mobile, option, & 
> double tap to select it.
> 4. Find the, Done, button & double tap it to save your settings & you can 
> close your contacts.
> I'm not 100% sure this is what you need, but if I'm wrong someone will 
> correct me.  I believe you can leave iMessage checked as well.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Kalaluhi
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 5:50 PM
> Subject: Text Message Question
>  
> Hello
> I have a question regarding text messages that is somewhat complicated to 
> describe.  I hope I can explain this clearly. 
>  
> I have an IPhone 7 still using 10.3 or whatever the last update was for IOS 
> 10.  After reading all of these emails from this group, I am holding off 
> until IOS 11 is perfect. Anyway, my son was also using an IPhone and I had 
> him in my contact list with his mobile number listed as an IPhone.  Today, he 
> decided to go back to using a Samsung Gallexy.  He sent me a text message as 
> a test and asked me to respond.  I did and he did not receive the text.  I 
> know that in my settings, I have IMessage turned on.  In order for him to 
> receive my text message, I have to turn it off before sending him a text.  
> However, it is a pain to have to keep remembering to turn it on and off when 
> sending texts.  My brother does not have a cell phone at all and uses an IPad 
> so I need it to have it turned on when sending him a text. 
>  
> I tried to delete his contact card from my contact list and re-enter his 
> information.  It is still showing up as an IPhone.  I turned my phone off 
> completely and added the contact information again and it is still 
> remembering his phone number as an IPhone. 
>  
> Meanwhile, he is trying to de-register his phone number from being an IPhone 
> number through Sprint. 
>  
> So I guess the question is whether there is a way to make the iPhone forget 
> that his number used to be an IPhone?

Re: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

yes, I appolojise.  I forget that I suppose apple has to contract or 
'negociate' with other  providers for tv and news or go through there 
copyright stuff.  I'm sorry.  I get that not all countries are the same but, 
I personaly think it'd be better to have all that in place when they release 
stuff like tv and news but, that's just me and I gues it'd take longer for 
release too but, I'm glad you all in canida have tv now hope news is next. 
Again, sory for my forgetfulness.



- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: 11.1


Exactly, if I remember correctly Simon is in Canada as I am and we just got 
the TV app in iOS 11.

We still don't have Apple's News app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

it hasn't been there in all countries

-Original Message-
From: doug oliver
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

Simon,
Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there 
all along. Thank you, Doug


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Simon Wong  wrote:


Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone,
according to what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Activating an iPhone without a SIM can it be done?

2017-11-01 Thread Kathy Kalaluhi
Hi 

Do not know if this information is worth anything to you but here is my story.  

 

I recently upgraded my phone to an IPhone 7 from the 6 S,  I wiped the old 
phone completely to rid all of my information from the phone before handing it 
over to my brother who wanted to use the phone as a very mini IPad.  When 
wiping it, it wiped everything i.e. all apps.  So we took the phone into the 
Verizon store and they pulled my sim card out of my new phone and inserted it 
into the old phone to download all the apps again.  Then removed my sim card 
and put it back into my phone.  My brother was able to set the phone up to use 
it as a very mini IPad and it is working great.  He cannot make phone calls but 
can use all the other apps through wireless internet connection.  It works much 
better than the original IPad mini that I gave to him years ago.  If you cannot 
remove the sim card from your phone to do this, there is one work around that 
will cost about $40.  You can get a sim card from the Verizon store for their 
monthly to go plan which requires no contracts and I assume that using it for 
one month as cellular and then not buying a new card the next month would work 
similar to what I did for my brother.  

 

Hope this suggestion has some value to you. 

Kathy Kalaluhi 

 

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Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Activating an iPhone without a SIM can it be done?

 

Is it possible to activate an iPhone without a SIM card installed?

 

Thanks.

 

Malcolm

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Re: iOS 11.1 built number

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner

i am not sure. I always delete the profile and reenroll if I decide to try the 
betas.
I'd wait and see if you get notified of a beta.
You are on one of the beta lists aren't you?
I am, and I could let you know when a beta is being talked about if you are not.
Later,
Richard


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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Thanks, Richard, that does match with iO?S 11.1 Public Beta 5 (I think at least 
there were 5 public betas).
I think if I keep my provisioning profile I should automatically get new betas, 
do you happen to know if that is the case or do I need to delete it and 
re-enroll my device for the next set of beta testing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 11.1 built number


here you go Sieghard,
The official 11.1 build is:
 11.1 (15B93)


Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿


On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Could somebody who updated to the official iOS 11.1 release post the built 
number? You can find this in Settings > General > About
I assume the last beta release is the same as the public release, but wanted to 
verify this.

Thanks,
Sieghard

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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner

I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
percent if speech rate is on the rotor.
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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🖖🏿


On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Janet Bell 
mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com>> wrote:

I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and change 
the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was able 
to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did this 
really happen.  Janet

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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha ha 
Janet

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover


I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
percent if speech rate is on the rotor. 
HTH,
Richard



"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿


On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


  I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and 
change the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was 
able to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did 
this really happen.  Janet
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Re: Is the Hulu app accessible?

2017-11-01 Thread Candy Lowe
As of now the hulu app is totally inaccessible.  It has been that way for about 
three months.  There is a work around.  You can use the tv app and link it to 
your hulu account.  

If you need any help, let me know.

Candy

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> Good morning, is the Hulu app accessible? Thanks.
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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread pegkane52
Hi,
I know this is a silly question, but I forget how to find the rotor settings to 
add things onto the router?
Thank you very much for your help I’ve looked and looked, and cannot remember 
where I found them the list I might change things.
Having a senior moment.
Thank you.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha ha 
> Janet
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover
>  
>  
> I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
> percent if speech rate is on the rotor.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>  
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and 
>> change the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I 
>> was able to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad 
>> or did this really happen.  Janet
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Re: Looks like IOS 11.1 is out

2017-11-01 Thread Davy Cuppens

This is not a bug to be fixed this is the policy of Apple.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Rebecca Ilniski

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Looks like IOS 11.1 is out

Nope they didn’t fix that. I guess with voiceover you hit the dictate button 
on the text field and then dictate and post. Using Siri you can post from 
anywhere just by pushing the home button, ask Siri to post to Facebook, then 
Siri will ask what you want to post. then send the post. But Siri can’t do 
that now.


Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Simon Wong  wrote:

What’s the difference between using voice over with Facebook, and using Siri 
with Facebook?


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:

Does anyone know if they have fixed the issue where you can't post to 
facebook with siri?

Chris
-Original Message- From: Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:06 PM
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Subject: Looks like IOS 11.1 is out

I just read that it was released today. You can go check for it and see
if you have it.

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Re: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread Davy Cuppens

That is possible the first time you use your iphone after an update.
In fact in the background there are processes going on. I was advised to 
wait 3 hours after an update and leave the phone on the charger then do a 
hard reset en go on with it.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: kelby carlson

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: peel-the-ap...@groups.io
Subject: Re: 11.1

Updated this afternoon and have been experiencing horrible battery drain. 
Percentage dropped by 20% in about half an hour.


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

Not only does the rotor bug in mail appear to be fixed, but my phone is in 
general acting much more snappy. It is quicker, used to have a huge lag 
time. I am very happy with the update. By the way I have a 6+


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
errors.


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Re: powerpoint presentations

2017-11-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Rebecca,

Try Keynote. I don't know how well it works, but it's Apple's presentation app 
and can access PowerPoint. It's also free.

Best,
Anna




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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Peggy place two fingers on the phone and turn them like a dial.  hope this 
is of some use.  Janet

From: pegkan...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

Hi,
I know this is a silly question, but I forget how to find the rotor settings to 
add things onto the router?
Thank you very much for your help I’ve looked and looked, and cannot remember 
where I found them the list I might change things.
Having a senior moment.
Thank you.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my IPhone. 


On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


  Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha ha 
Janet

  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover


  I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
percent if speech rate is on the rotor. 
  HTH,
  Richard



  "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.
  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

  🖖🏿


  On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and 
change the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was 
able to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did 
this really happen.  Janet
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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread pegkane52
Hi, I know how to make the rotor gesture, where I was asking about, was where 
do I go to add and take away gestures that I want to put on the rotor? I know 
it is in settings, but for the life of me, I can’t remember where it is.
Thanks for the information.
Peggy

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peggy place two fingers on the phone and turn them like a dial.  hope this 
> is of some use.  Janet
>  
> From: pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover
>  
> Hi,
> I know this is a silly question, but I forget how to find the rotor settings 
> to add things onto the router?
> Thank you very much for your help I’ve looked and looked, and cannot remember 
> where I found them the list I might change things.
> Having a senior moment.
> Thank you.
> Peggy
>  
> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>  
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha 
>> ha Janet
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover
>>  
>>  
>> I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
>> percent if speech rate is on the rotor.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> 🖖🏿
>>  
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and 
>>> change the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I 
>>> was able to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad 
>>> or did this really happen.  Janet
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iPhone 7 plus to easy to activate

2017-11-01 Thread Larry McCreary
Hello,
When my iPhone is in locked mode it often activates vo.  This is very 
disruptive.  I have to turn vo off.  Is there an adjustment that will correct 
this wakeup situation?
Thanks much.

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Re: iPhone 7 plus to easy to activate

2017-11-01 Thread Shai
Hello Larry,
You might have wake on raise turned on; this is a new feature where
when the phone is lifted  from a table it will wake. To disable this
feature, open settings/display and brightness and find this feature to
turn it off.
Hope this helps


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> Hello,
> When my iPhone is in locked mode it often activates vo.  This is very
> disruptive.  I have to turn vo off.  Is there an adjustment that will
> correct this wakeup situation?
> Thanks much.
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Saving Attachments

2017-11-01 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

We're using the iPhhone SE model with iOS 10.33.  How do I set Voiceover to 
tell me that there's a picture or any kind of attachment attached to a text 
message?  Also, if there's a picture attached to a text message, how do I 
save the picture to the Photo's folder?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 

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Re: Transfererring Data At The Apple Store

2017-11-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
When I bought my iPhone 7 last year, I had the same experience as
Woody. I was asked if I had performed an ICloud backup or if I wanted
to do one in the store.  Music is not backed up in iCloud and someone
will have to do an iTunes sync with their computer for the music to
get on a new iPhone. I do not buy at a carrier because the iPhones at
the carriers may not support all the antenna frequencies from the
other carriers.

Kelly



On 10/31/17, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> When we bought new phones at the T Mobile store recently, they used a
> utility called Copy Data to copy material from our old phones to our new
> phones.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 
> To: "VIPhone Mailing List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Transfererring Data At The Apple Store
>
>
> Hi Arnold,
>
> When I bought a phone at the Apple Store a few years ago, they had me back
> up my old one to iCloud and restore from that backup. As far as I know, they
>
> don't have software for transferring between phones. iOS 11 has a feature to
>
> import settings from one phone to another, but I don't think that includes
> apps, music, and other app data. When Jonathan Mosen demonstrated the
> feature, I'm pretty sure that after initial set-up, it restored from an
> iCloud backup. If someone who has done this could comment, though, it would
>
> be great.
>
> You are right that neither iCloud nor iTunes backups include music. If your
>
> music is on your computer, you're expected to sync with iTunes and get the
> music that way. If you use iTunes Match or Apple Music, you can download it
>
> from your  iCloud music library. I did restore once from iCloud and have
> music copied automatically, but usually this has not been the case.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> When the people at the Apple store transfer the data from an old to a new
>>
>> phone, do they simply back up the old phone to iTunes, or do they have
>> software more sophisticated than is available to the public. I know, for
>> example, that iTunes does not back up the music on my phone, it only lets
>>
>> itself know where to go to find that music on my hard drive, so it can be
>>
>> restored. Or, I think this is the way it works. So, i the Apple store
>> transfers the data from one phone to another, this music would not be
>> transfered? I want to know before I wish I had known. At the moment, the
>> computer on which this music resides cannot be used to restore a new
>> phone. Thanks for any information.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>>
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Re: case for 7 plus

2017-11-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
Larry,

Do you want a military grade iPhone case like the Survivor Summit?
Most people here say they want a durable case for their iPhone but
balk at the bulkiness and weight of the rugged cases.

Kelly



On 10/31/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> You can't just copy stuff to an iPhone or create folders like in Windows or
> on Android. With iOS 11 Apple has made file management somewhat easier by
> introducing the "Files" app which works with most major cloud services like
> Dropbox, OneDrive and of course iCloud Drive. You will be best off using one
> of these, Dropbox or OneDrive, then you have access to all your files that
> are in those folders on your computer on your iPhone and you can save email
> attachments and so on to any Dropbox or OneDrive folder.
> I don't know if you could actually use Safari and, for example, go online to
> the Freedom Scientific website and download Jaws 2018 as a file, never tried
> it.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: case for 7 plus
>
> Hello,
> I would like to hear some recommendations for a 7 plus case.  I am looking
> for one with good durability and screen protection.
> Also I want to copy material from my computer hd to my iPhone.  I would like
> some advice as to how to accomplish this.  I also need help on creating a
> directory for the downloads on my iPhone.
> Thanks very much.
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RE: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone
It’s in settings, general, accessability and voiceover.

 

 

 

 

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pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: 01 November 2017 16:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

 

Hi, I know how to make the rotor gesture, where I was asking about, was where 
do I go to add and take away gestures that I want to put on the rotor? I know 
it is in settings, but for the life of me, I can’t remember where it is.
Thanks for the information.
Peggy

 

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.

 


On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Janet Bell mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com> > wrote:

Hi Peggy place two fingers on the phone and turn them like a dial.  hope this 
is of some use.  Janet

 

From: pegkan...@gmail.com   

Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

 

Hi,
I know this is a silly question, but I forget how to find the rotor settings to 
add things onto the router?
Thank you very much for your help I’ve looked and looked, and cannot remember 
where I found them the list I might change things.
Having a senior moment.
Thank you.
Peggy

 

Peggy Sent from my IPhone. 

 


On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Janet Bell mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com> > wrote:

Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha ha 
Janet

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

 

 

I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
percent if speech rate is on the rotor. 

HTH,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


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I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and change 
the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was able 
to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did this 
really happen.  Janet

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Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
not if you want a five per cent increase.

From: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

It’s in settings, general, accessability and voiceover.

 

 

 

 

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pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: 01 November 2017 16:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

 

Hi, I know how to make the rotor gesture, where I was asking about, was where 
do I go to add and take away gestures that I want to put on the rotor? I know 
it is in settings, but for the life of me, I can’t remember where it is.
Thanks for the information.
Peggy

 

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.

 


On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:

  Hi Peggy place two fingers on the phone and turn them like a dial.  hope this 
is of some use.  Janet

   

  From: pegkan...@gmail.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:59 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

   

  Hi,
  I know this is a silly question, but I forget how to find the rotor settings 
to add things onto the router?
  Thank you very much for your help I’ve looked and looked, and cannot remember 
where I found them the list I might change things.
  Having a senior moment.
  Thank you.
  Peggy

   

  Peggy Sent from my IPhone. 

   


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Hi thanks very much richard glad I am not too far round the twist yet.  ha 
ha Janet

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: increasing or decreasing sppeed of voiceover

 

 

I cannot say whether you are going mad, but you can adjust the speed by 5 
percent if speech rate is on the rotor. 

HTH,

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


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  I maybe barking up the wrong tree but when I go to voiceover and try and 
change the sppeed it only gives me increments of ten per cent.  I am sure I was 
able to swipe somewhere with one finger and get say 55.  am I going mad or did 
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rota settings

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Peggy I don’t know about this but would it be in actions on the rota itself?

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Re: rota settings

2017-11-01 Thread pegkane52
Hi Janet,
I will check it out the next time I am in voice dream reader.
Thank you very much for all your help.
Peggy

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Re: rota settings

2017-11-01 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Peggy I don’t actually know if it works I just looked at the rota and 
thought it may be of some use. if it isn’t then I apologise.

From: pegkan...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: rota settings

Hi Janet,
I will check it out the next time I am in voice dream reader.
Thank you very much for all your help.
Peggy

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  Hi Peggy I don’t know about this but would it be in actions on the rota 
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RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

2017-11-01 Thread Rick Alfaro
Les, here is what I did to link it to Alexa.

 

After installing the Nest and creating a Nest account, I had Alexa “discover” 
the Nest. You can do this either from the Alexa app or by telling your Echo 
product to “discover”.

 

In the Alexa app, I went into the skills section and did a search for Nest. I 
found the Nest skill and enabled it. You are taken to the Nest site where you 
have to put in your credentials for logging into your Nest account. Once you do 
that you get a screen letting you know that the Nest is now linked to Alexa. 
After that I created a group called Thermostat but that is actually optional. 
When using Alexa to control the stat, it will understand whatever name you 
assigned to your Nest when you first set it up. In my case it was “Upstairs” 
which is actually the location of where the Nest is installed.

 

At this point you should be able to issue commands using the name you assigned 
as the Nest’s location so in my case, I can say “Alexa, set upstairs to 76 
degrees” and it’s done and Alexa replies by saying “upstairs is set to 76 
degrees”. 

 

Now, because I also set a group called “thermostat” I can also use the word 
thermostat to issue commands to Alexa. So far the commands I’ve been able to 
use are:

Set Upstairs to XX degrees

Raise upstairs x degrees

Lower upstairs x degrees

What is upstairs set to

What is the temperature inside

Set upstairs to cool or heat

Set upstairs to away or home

 

There may be other commands but those ar the ones that I’ve used thus far 
successfully. 

 

If you do a search on YouTube, you will find several videos demonstrating some 
of these commands. 

 

Also, take a look at:

https://nest.com/support/article/Learn-how-to-control-your-Nest-Thermostat-with-Amazon-Alexa-on-Echo-and-Fire-TV

 

There you will find some guide lines with additional links pointing to other 
pages where you can dive deeper. HTH

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

Hi Rick,

 

Glad you are happy with the Nest.  I have had the Nest for a couple of years, 
and like you, I haven’t worried about the schedule.  I let it determine our 
habits and remember them.  I will say that I have encountered some problems 
when we’re away when it saves energy.  For some reason, the thermostat’s 
program got activated while we were away.  So when traveling, I deactivate that 
feature.  Sometimes, I think these devices outsmart themselves!  I do have a 
question.  Can you assist me with linking the Nest with Alexa?  I thought I had 
done it, but apparently not, as it doesn’t respond to Voice Commands.  What 
Voice Commands work?  Thanks for any assistance.

Best,

 

Les

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Rick Alfaro  
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

I now have the Nest thermostat installed and am very happy to report that the 
Nest app is quite accessible. I’m able to change various settings and raise or 
lower the temperature. I’ve also linked it to both Alexa and Google Home so 
controlling it by voice is really nice and works very well.

 

I have the Nest set to work as a learning thermostat so I haven’t messed with 
schedules yet and am just allowing Nest to do its thing and create it’s 
schedules by learning from my commands to set temperatures throughout the day. 
The Nest also knows when nobody is home and it set’s itself to Away mode to 
save energy. I’m very pleased with the Nest learning thermostat.

 

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RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

2017-11-01 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi Ed. It is listed on amazon as Nest Learning Thermostat 3rd generation. I 
don’t know the specific model number but this will find it for you right away.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

Hi Rick,

What is the model number you have of this thermostat?

Mr. Ed

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

I now have the Nest thermostat installed and am very happy to report that the 
Nest app is quite accessible. I’m able to change various settings and raise or 
lower the temperature. I’ve also linked it to both Alexa and Google Home so 
controlling it by voice is really nice and works very well.

 

I have the Nest set to work as a learning thermostat so I haven’t messed with 
schedules yet and am just allowing Nest to do its thing and create it’s 
schedules by learning from my commands to set temperatures throughout the day. 
The Nest also knows when nobody is home and it set’s itself to Away mode to 
save energy. I’m very pleased with the Nest learning thermostat.

 

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Re: Questions regarding Blindfold games

2017-11-01 Thread Andy Baracco

You have to download and install each game separately.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:18 AM
Subject: Questions regarding Blindfold games



Hello everyone,


I like to play some games on my phone, from time to time. Such as
Farkle, from Dice World. And I used to play Word Association 2.


However, I decided to install the blindfold app the other day.

But what I don't get is, if you install the app, then if you want to
play a certain game, you have to install this.

Why is that?

And is it like this with every game?


Also, there is a phrase game I have been attempting to play. I can't
think of the exact name of it at the moment. But I am hoping some of you
will know what I am talking about.


Anyway, if 1 phrase is, Cuddly as a, kitten. How do you know, or find
out which 1 is kitten?

Every time I think I understand it and I am doing well, I'm not!


Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

I did wonder what the point was as I already have spectrum TV on the phone.

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Subject: Re: 11.1

For me the Tv app is useless. The app is to make movie viewing apps to be 
found in one general app for easier access. I have a media folder that I 
created that serves the same purpose.


Donna


We haven't got the TV app in the U.K.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: 01 November 2017 00:00
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

it hasn't been there in all countries

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From: doug oliver
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

Simon,
Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there 
all along. Thank you, Doug


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Simon Wong  wrote:


Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone,
according to what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
Sent from my iPhone

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QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
previous issues?  

I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
version of the app, itself.

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: iPhone 7 plus to easy to activate

2017-11-01 Thread Donna
Is Hey Siri Off? Settings, Siri to turn off. 

Donna
> 
> Hello,
> When my iPhone is in locked mode it often activates vo.  This is very 
> disruptive.  I have to turn vo off.  Is there an adjustment that will correct 
> this wakeup situation?
> Thanks much.
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Re: iPhone 7 plus to easy to activate

2017-11-01 Thread Donna
Oops forgot about this. Disregard my last message. 

Donna
> 
> Hello Larry,
> You might have wake on raise turned on; this is a new feature where
> when the phone is lifted  from a table it will wake. To disable this
> feature, open settings/display and brightness and find this feature to
> turn it off.
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
>> On 11/1/17, Larry McCreary  wrote:
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>> When my iPhone is in locked mode it often activates vo.  This is very
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Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

2017-11-01 Thread Terri Stimmel
Hello everyone,


I have had a rather odd situation come up, and I do not know at all what 
to think.


Back in the beginning of September, I bought an iPhone SE, from a 
gentleman on Craig's List, who purchases phones, then sales them. 
According to him, whenever he gets an iPhone, he holds on to it for a 
few weeks, before listing it, to make sure there aren't any issues.


Well I asked him last week, if he might have an SE with more space, 
around December, or so. He told me he would see what he could do. And he 
asked me in the mean time to get the phone I have on the T-Mobile 
network, unlocked. He said this would make it easier for him to sell. He 
was going to take this phone back, as a partial trade.


Well, I called yesterday to see what I needed to do. I was told by 
T-Mobile, that this phone had tried to be unlocked on the 19th. But 
that's not possible! But they said they could do it again. I told them 
that I never received unlocking instructions, or any emails from them, 
regarding such a thing.


Well, I was told by the gentleman on the phone, that within 24 hours, I 
should receive an email with instructions on how to unlock my phone, and 
a code. This never happened. But here is where things get really weird!


At about 9:15 this morning, which would have been about 24 hours from my 
call to T-mobile, yesterday, my phone lost service. So when my friend 
arrived, I asked her if she had service. I thought maybe there was an 
odd outage. But she had service. So we went to the T-Mobile store.

I explained everything to the woman that was there, and I could tell she 
wanted to try and help me. But the guy that was working there, had her 
go do something else, and I got the feeling he was trying to blow me 
off. So did my friend. I had tried to explain everything to him, and he 
just kept saying that I should go to the Apple store.


Well we left, and as we sat in the parking lot, I called T-Mobile on my 
friend's phone. I explained what went on yesterday when I called to get 
it unlocked. I explained what happened this morning, and how quickly it 
happened. And I told them I had gone to the local store to try and get help.


Well somehow, this phone was blocked. It was reported stolen.

Now how could that happen so suddenly?


So I contacted the man I bought the phone from, to begin with, and he 
told me that the phone didn't need to be unlocked, that only Android 
phones had to be unlocked.

This does not sound correct to me. But I know very little about this stuff.

Also, if it didn't need to be unlocked, why would he have asked me about 
doing it the other day?


So needless to say, I had to go back in to the T-Mobile store. I went 
with the LG K20 Plus, like I had tried once before. I only went with 
that 1 again, because I didn't have to put anything down, and everything 
else was so high, anyway.


I called T-mobile again, once I got home. They kept asking me if I could 
get hold of the original owner of the phone. I think I told them 3 times 
at least, that I didn't know who the original owner was.

So supposedly, this is being looked in to, and I should here back from 
T-Mobile by Friday, at the latest. Yes, lets just see what really 
happens there. Insane!


Thank you to all who may have read this. I do appreciate it.


Terri

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Re: Saving Attachments

2017-11-01 Thread Mike B.
Howdy Again,

I think I got it kind of figured out.  Below are the steps I used, + steps I 
found on the internet:
My Steps:
1. Open Messages, & swipe to the right to highlight the message.  Make sure, 
Actions, is selected from the Rotor.  Double tap on, Actions, & swipe to the 
right.

2. Swipe until Voiceover reads the message, then swipe 1 more time, & 
Voiceover will read a minimal description of the picture attached.

3. Now, swipe down to, Save, & double tap.  The picture is saved 
automatically to the Photos App / folder in the, Albums tab.

>From the internet:

How to save a picture from a text message on iPhone:
list of 4 items
• In the Messages app, open the conversation with the image you want to 
save.

• Tap and hold the photo.

• Tap Save.

• The photo will appear in your Camera Roll; open your Photos app to view 
it.
list end

To save multiple images from a message thread on iPhone:
list of 4 items
• In the message with the photo you want to save, tap Details in the upper 
right corner.

• Scroll down to Attachments.

• Tap and hold an image.

• Tap More.
list end

=

list of 2 items
• Now you can select multiple photos from the message thread and save (or 
delete) them in bulk.

• You’ll find the saved images in your Camera Roll in the Photos app.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Mike B.
To: VIPhone
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject: Saving Attachments


Hi All,

We're using the iPhhone SE model with iOS 10.33.  How do I set Voiceover to 
tell me that there's a picture or any kind of attachment attached to a text 
message?  Also, if there's a picture attached to a text message, how do I 
save the picture to the Photo's folder?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
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Battery drain and iOS 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread Mary Otten
>From comments I’ve read, it seems like the jury is still a little bit out on 
>this issue. I just updated yesterday. And it seems to me that there is more of 
>a battery drain. I know this is subjective. But I had my phone on charging and 
>came home around noon. I’ve used it some to be sure. It’s already down to 85%. 
>That seems like a lot for how much I have used it, based on my usage patterns 
>with iOS 10 and how long it took to get down to 85%. It’s all subjective. I 
>don’t think any settings have been changed. I do have Bluetooth on right now 
>because I’m using my Smart Cooker. But Bluetooth has never really taken that 
>much out of my battery I don’t think. Anyway, I’m curious what others are 
>finding. I have a 7+, so I have plenty of battery. It just seems like it’s 
>coming down faster than it used to with iOS 10.
Mary
 

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RE: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

 

Pablo,

 

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.

OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.

I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.

For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.

Enjoy your new iPhone X.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

 

Hi guys,

 

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X. 

I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.

I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?

I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?

Thanks

 

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RE: powerpoint presentations

2017-11-01 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Thanks.  Will have to give that a try. 

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Re: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Jonathan, One question I don’t think I’ve heard a clear answer to, How would a 
totally blind user interact with the face ID with a minimum of aggrovation?

From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 19:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

 

Pablo,

 

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.

OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.

I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.

For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.

Enjoy your new iPhone X.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

 

Hi guys,

 

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X. 

I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.

I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?

I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?

Thanks

 

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RE: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Here’s my blog post that covers this.

http://mosen.org/face-id-accessibility-apple-offers-some-answers/

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gestures for iPhone X

 

Jonathan, One question I don’t think I’ve heard a clear answer to, How would a 
totally blind user interact with the face ID with a minimum of aggrovation?

 

From: Jonathan Mosen   

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 19:11

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

 

Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

 

Pablo,

 

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.

OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.

I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.

For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.

Enjoy your new iPhone X.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

 

Hi guys,

 

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X. 

I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.

I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?

I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?

Thanks

 

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RE: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

2017-11-01 Thread M. Taylor
Terri,

This is an interesting story but the long and short of it is that, generally 
speaking, don't buy phones from people on Craigslist.  

Just be grateful that you are not being charged with a crime for, depending 
upon the circumstances, in the U.S., being in possession of stolen property is 
actionable, unto itself.

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

Hello everyone,


I have had a rather odd situation come up, and I do not know at all what to 
think.


Back in the beginning of September, I bought an iPhone SE, from a 
gentleman on Craig's List, who purchases phones, then sales them. 
According to him, whenever he gets an iPhone, he holds on to it for a 
few weeks, before listing it, to make sure there aren't any issues.


Well I asked him last week, if he might have an SE with more space, 
around December, or so. He told me he would see what he could do. And he 
asked me in the mean time to get the phone I have on the T-Mobile 
network, unlocked. He said this would make it easier for him to sell. He 
was going to take this phone back, as a partial trade.


Well, I called yesterday to see what I needed to do. I was told by 
T-Mobile, that this phone had tried to be unlocked on the 19th. But 
that's not possible! But they said they could do it again. I told them 
that I never received unlocking instructions, or any emails from them, 
regarding such a thing.


Well, I was told by the gentleman on the phone, that within 24 hours, I 
should receive an email with instructions on how to unlock my phone, and 
a code. This never happened. But here is where things get really weird!


At about 9:15 this morning, which would have been about 24 hours from my 
call to T-mobile, yesterday, my phone lost service. So when my friend 
arrived, I asked her if she had service. I thought maybe there was an 
odd outage. But she had service. So we went to the T-Mobile store.

I explained everything to the woman that was there, and I could tell she 
wanted to try and help me. But the guy that was working there, had her 
go do something else, and I got the feeling he was trying to blow me 
off. So did my friend. I had tried to explain everything to him, and he 
just kept saying that I should go to the Apple store.


Well we left, and as we sat in the parking lot, I called T-Mobile on my 
friend's phone. I explained what went on yesterday when I called to get 
it unlocked. I explained what happened this morning, and how quickly it 
happened. And I told them I had gone to the local store to try and get help.


Well somehow, this phone was blocked. It was reported stolen.

Now how could that happen so suddenly?


So I contacted the man I bought the phone from, to begin with, and he 
told me that the phone didn't need to be unlocked, that only Android 
phones had to be unlocked.

This does not sound correct to me. But I know very little about this stuff.

Also, if it didn't need to be unlocked, why would he have asked me about 
doing it the other day?


So needless to say, I had to go back in to the T-Mobile store. I went 
with the LG K20 Plus, like I had tried once before. I only went with 
that 1 again, because I didn't have to put anything down, and everything 
else was so high, anyway.


I called T-mobile again, once I got home. They kept asking me if I could 
get hold of the original owner of the phone. I think I told them 3 times 
at least, that I didn't know who the original owner was.

So supposedly, this is being looked in to, and I should here back from 
T-Mobile by Friday, at the latest. Yes, lets just see what really 
happens there. Insane!


Thank you to all who may have read this. I do appreciate it.


Terri

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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner
Mark,
I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
HTH,
Richard


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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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🖖🏿


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wrote:

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To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
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I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
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Thank you,

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RE: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the App 
Store. Any ideas?

Thanks, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, 
Fix Previous Issue Bug?

Mark,
I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
HTH,
Richard

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🖖🏿


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Thank you,

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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Anthony Vece
I don’t find an update either.


> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the App 
> Store. Any ideas?
>  
> Thanks, Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, 
> Fix Previous Issue Bug?
>  
> Mark, 
> I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
> I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
> Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>  
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
> released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
> previous issues?  
> 
> I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
> version of the app, itself.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Kimberly
Really? Because I can’t access previous issues of NFB newsline, and have not 
been able to since my last iOS update.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
> I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
> Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
>> released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
>> previous issues?  
>> 
>> I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
>> version of the app, itself.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner
If you are running iOS 11.1, try the three finger swipe down while in the 
updates tab in the app store. I did that and found 12 updates, when it hadn't 
shown any a moment before.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿


On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I don’t find an update either.


On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:

Hi,

I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the App 
Store. Any ideas?

Thanks, Keith

From: 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, 
Fix Previous Issue Bug?

Mark,
I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
HTH,
Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿


On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
previous issues?

I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
version of the app, itself.

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Kimberly
I don’t know what you mean by the three finger swipe down while in the updates 
tab because that does nothing for me.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are running iOS 11.1, try the three finger swipe down while in the 
> updates tab in the app store. I did that and found 12 updates, when it hadn't 
> shown any a moment before.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
>> I don’t find an update either.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the 
>>> App Store. Any ideas?
>>>  
>>> Thanks, Keith
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 7:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for 
>>> iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?
>>>  
>>> Mark, 
>>> I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
>>> I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
>>> Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 🖖🏿
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
>>> released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
>>> previous issues?  
>>> 
>>> I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
>>> version of the app, itself.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread cmohney1961
I’m not seeing an update either.  The table index in favorites won’t work 
either.  It’s like every letter is selected.  I wrote and asked what happened 
to the go to previous issue button and told them the table index didn’t work.  
Hopefully it is just on my end.

Connie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are running iOS 11.1, try the three finger swipe down while in the 
> updates tab in the app store. I did that and found 12 updates, when it hadn't 
> shown any a moment before.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
>> I don’t find an update either.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the 
>>> App Store. Any ideas?
>>>  
>>> Thanks, Keith
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 7:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for 
>>> iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?
>>>  
>>> Mark, 
>>> I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
>>> I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
>>> Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 🖖🏿
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
>>> released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
>>> previous issues?  
>>> 
>>> I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
>>> version of the app, itself.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Mary Otten
I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted to 
get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But then when 
I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move doesn’t get 
the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file into a folder. 
Color me confused.

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Major bug in iOS 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread Mary Otten

I don’t know if this has been present in Ios  11 since it’s inception, since I 
only just now upgraded. But the problem is that when you have links in an email 
which you need to use because they expand segments of the email, they don’t 
work. Two examples are the Blind Bargains newsletter and eight email that I get 
from my CSA. It’s a newsletter. And if I want to actually read the verious 
segments of this newsletter, I must be able to access these links and I can’t. 
Thank you Apple you screwed up again. I can’t imagine sighted people putting up 
with this crap. If you get emails that have links that you need to expand 
within the email, please write to Apple accessibility and urge them to fix this 
problem.
Mary

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Re: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Alan Lemly
Mary, 

Place focus on the app you want to move into your news folder, single finger 
swipe down until you hear edit and double tap, focus should still be on the app 
you want to move and single finger swipe down until you hear drag and double 
tap, place focus on the folder where you want to move it and single finger 
swipe down until you hear the appropriate action and then double tap. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted 
> to get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But then 
> when I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move doesn’t 
> get the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file into a 
> folder. Color me confused.
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Re: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Mary,
Drag is the new move.
So, flick to drag after you start editing and double tap.
Then, go to the folder you want to drop it into and flick down until you get to 
add newsline to folder.
Then you may here "drop ready" and then double tap and it should work.
HTH,
Richard



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I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted to 
get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But then when 
I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move doesn’t get 
the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file into a folder. 
Color me confused.

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Re: Major bug in iOS 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread cmohney1961
Mary,

I wonder if you changed your rodor to links if that would allow you to click on 
the link you are trying to read.  I have never had an e-mail with links in it 
so, I’m just guessing.  I hope this helps.

Connie
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> I don’t know if this has been present in Ios  11 since it’s inception, since 
> I only just now upgraded. But the problem is that when you have links in an 
> email which you need to use because they expand segments of the email, they 
> don’t work. Two examples are the Blind Bargains newsletter and eight email 
> that I get from my CSA. It’s a newsletter. And if I want to actually read the 
> verious segments of this newsletter, I must be able to access these links and 
> I can’t. Thank you Apple you screwed up again. I can’t imagine sighted people 
> putting up with this crap. If you get emails that have links that you need to 
> expand within the email, please write to Apple accessibility and urge them to 
> fix this problem.
> Mary
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Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?

2017-11-01 Thread Anthony Vece
I did a three finger swipe up and, there they were.



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:10 PM, cmohney1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I’m not seeing an update either.  The table index in favorites won’t work 
> either.  It’s like every letter is selected.  I wrote and asked what happened 
> to the go to previous issue button and told them the table index didn’t work. 
>  Hopefully it is just on my end.
> 
> Connie 
> 
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> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are running iOS 11.1, try the three finger swipe down while in the 
>> updates tab in the app store. I did that and found 12 updates, when it 
>> hadn't shown any a moment before.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> 🖖🏿
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don’t find an update either.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 1, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 I’m curious why I’m not seeing an NFB Newsline update when I check in the 
 App Store. Any ideas?
  
 Thanks, Keith
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 7:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: QUESTION: Does The Latest Release of N F B Newsline App for 
 iOS, Fix Previous Issue Bug?
  
 Mark, 
 I just updated to iOS 11.1 yesterday and updated NFB Newsline today.
 I then opened today's NYTimes and was able to read it.
 Then opened yesterday's and Sunday's and they all worked fine.
 HTH,
 Richard
  
 
 "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
 flying.
 There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
 learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
 🖖🏿
  
 
 On Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you using the NFB Newsline app in iOS 11.x, does the latest
 released, posted today, resolve the bug that prevented the viewing of
 previous issues?  
 
 I just want to make certain before I update to iOS 11.x or to the latest
 version of the app, itself.
 
 Thank you,
 
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Re: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Mary Otten
 The problem seems to be that once I put focus on the News folder, the ad to 
folder thing just isn’t there. I get an option to add the folder to the drag 
session, which I certainly don’t want to do. It’s just screwed up.
Mary


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> Hi Mary,
> Drag is the new move.
> So, flick to drag after you start editing and double tap.
> Then, go to the folder you want to drop it into and flick down until you get 
> to add newsline to folder.
> Then you may here "drop ready" and then double tap and it should work.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted 
>> to get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But 
>> then when I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move 
>> doesn’t get the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file 
>> into a folder. Color me confused.
>> 
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Regional Tracking

2017-11-01 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,

After updating to 11.1, I noticed that Regional tracking shows up on the
status bar.  I can't find where this is coming from.  Can someone tell me?

Thx -Steve

 

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Re: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Richard Turner

It is sometimes slow, but I thought with your 7 plus it would be faster.
So, start editing on Newsline and flick down to drag. Pause a few seconds and 
double tap, and then pause another couple seconds.
Put focus on your news folder and try flicking down or up through the options 
and hopefully you will find add to folder, again pause and maybe it will say 
drop ready, then double tap.
I had to experiment a bit with the timing.
I liked it better in 10, but it does work in 11.
Richard



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 The problem seems to be that once I put focus on the News folder, the ad to 
folder thing just isn’t there. I get an option to add the folder to the drag 
session, which I certainly don’t want to do. It’s just screwed up.
Mary


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Hi Mary,
Drag is the new move.
So, flick to drag after you start editing and double tap.
Then, go to the folder you want to drop it into and flick down until you get to 
add newsline to folder.
Then you may here "drop ready" and then double tap and it should work.
HTH,
Richard



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mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted to 
get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But then when 
I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move doesn’t get 
the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file into a folder. 
Color me confused.

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Apps automatically updating

2017-11-01 Thread Steve Sweeney
HiJust about every time I go to the app store I notice that there are some
apps that haven't updated.  I have to touch Update all to get the updates.
Is this normal now or can I change a setting to fix this?

Thx -Steve

 

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RE: Apps automatically updating

2017-11-01 Thread llumpkin
I’d think you’d want this. You can set ios to update automatically but I 
wouldn’t do that.

 

 

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Subject: Apps automatically updating

 

HiJust about every time I go to the app store I notice that there are some apps 
that haven’t updated.  I have to touch Update all to get the updates.  Is this 
normal now or can I change a setting to fix this?

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RE: Apps automatically updating

2017-11-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Steve,

You can choose to have apps updated, automatically, but I suggest that you 
leave things as they are on your device.

This is because, at present, you have the option to not update a specific app, 
should you first learn from others, that doing so will break VoiceOver access.

However, should you decide to turn on automatic updates, you can find the 
option to do so in the iTunes and App Store area of the Settings menu.

Mark

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apps automatically updating

HiJust about every time I go to the app store I notice that there are some apps 
that haven’t updated.  I have to touch Update all to get the updates.  Is this 
normal now or can I change a setting to fix this?
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RE: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

2017-11-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Terri,

First, the guy is wrong in his assertion that only Android phones need to be 
unlocked.

Second, while you ask a simple question, the answer can be somewhat 
complicated, depending upon various factors.

Generally speaking, and I do mean generally, when you purchase a phone from a 
carrier in the US, it is locked to that carrier until it is unlocked.

However, one can purchase a carrier based phone completely unlocked.  For 
example, my iPhone 6 Plus was shipped with a T-Mobile SIM yet I purchased it as 
an unlocked device by paying full price.  In fact, upon opening the box, before 
I powered on the phone for the first time, I removed the T-Mobile SIM and 
inserted my A T & T Wireless SIM and the phone has been working perfectly, ever 
since.

The same was true for my Samsung Galaxy S 6 phone.

Further complicating matters, depending upon the type of modem shipped with the 
phone, CDMA phones which are reputed to be locked to a carrier such as Verizon 
Wireless, can work perfectly fine on A T & T Wireless and T-Mobile without 
having to be unlocked.  Again, it all depends on the type of MODEM inside the 
phone.

Add to this the fact that there are world/global versions of almost every 
phone, including iPhone models.  These types of models are not usually sold in 
the US until at least 3 to 4 months have passed since the initial launch of the 
phone.

The best way to determine if a new phone is unlocked at the time of purchase is 
to simply ask the sales person and to make certain that the printed purchase 
receipt reflects the device's status.

For example, when I recently purchased an iPhone 7 Plus, I made certain that 
the receipt stated that the phone was unlocked.

Terri, we live in interesting times during which virtually everything is 
changing in both form and factor, so to speak. (smile)

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel [mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 8:43 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

Hello Mark,


Yes I am very happy that I am not being charged with any sort of crime.

But if this phone was stolen, why wasn't this noticed in September, when it was 
added to my account?

How could that have been missed, then?


Also, I go back to my main question, because I am curious.

Would that phone have to be unlocked, say if I wanted to use it on AT&T, and 
not T-mobile?

Or is the guy right, only Androids have to be unlocked?

I am not as smart as say you, or Sieghard, or a few other people, when it comes 
to any of this stuff.

However, I thought unless you bought an unlocked phone, if it was on the 
T-Mobile carrier, then it had to be unlocked.

Am I wrong in my thinking?


You know, I have sold stuff from Craig's List, and bought stuff. This is the 
first problem I've ever had. Very sad that we have to be so careful. 
But no, I won't buy a cell phone from there, again. I doubt I'll buy much, 
actually.


Terri


On 11/1/2017 7:42 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Terri,
>
> This is an interesting story but the long and short of it is that, generally 
> speaking, don't buy phones from people on Craigslist.
>
> Just be grateful that you are not being charged with a crime for, depending 
> upon the circumstances, in the U.S., being in possession of stolen property 
> is actionable, unto itself.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 3:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I have had a rather odd situation come up, and I do not know at all what to 
> think.
>
>
> Back in the beginning of September, I bought an iPhone SE, from a 
> gentleman on Craig's List, who purchases phones, then sales them.
> According to him, whenever he gets an iPhone, he holds on to it for a 
> few weeks, before listing it, to make sure there aren't any issues.
>
>
> Well I asked him last week, if he might have an SE with more space, 
> around December, or so. He told me he would see what he could do. And 
> he asked me in the mean time to get the phone I have on the T-Mobile 
> network, unlocked. He said this would make it easier for him to sell. 
> He was going to take this phone back, as a partial trade.
>
>
> Well, I called yesterday to see what I needed to do. I was told by 
> T-Mobile, that this phone had tried to be unlocked on the 19th. But 
> that's not possible! But they said they could do it again. I told them 
> that I never received unlocking instructions, or any emails from them, 
> regarding such a thing.
>
>
> Well, I was told by the gentleman on the phone, that within 24 hours, 
> I should receive an email with instructions on how to unlock my phone, 
> and a code. This never happened. But here is where things get really weird!
>
>
> At about 9:15 this morning, which would have been 

RE: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I look forward to it. I’m not buying a an iPhone X this year, but since I’m in 
Calgary and not far from one of the two Apple Stores here I will go to one on 
Friday or Saturday to check it out. I already asked one of the managers there 
and they don’t know yet if their demo phones will allow for the setup of Face 
Id, he said often the demo version of iOS is restricted in many ways, but he 
said if it does I’d be welcome to set it up and try I tout. I don’t think in my 
case I would have any issue with the attention feature active since I am quite 
good at looking at people.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

Here’s my blog post that covers this.
http://mosen.org/face-id-accessibility-apple-offers-some-answers/

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
http://www.mosen.org

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gestures for iPhone X

Jonathan, One question I don’t think I’ve heard a clear answer to, How would a 
totally blind user interact with the face ID with a minimum of aggrovation?

From: Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 19:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
http://www.mosen.org

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

Pablo,

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.
OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.
I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.
For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.
Enjoy your new iPhone X.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

Hi guys,

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X.
I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.
I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?
I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?
Thanks

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RE: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mary,

It sounds like you go on the app you want to move, start editing mode but then 
right away go to the folder where you want to put the app. You forget the one 
step which is after you start editing mode and while you are still focused on 
the app you want to move you flick down to drag and double tap that.
As somebody pointed out, in iOS 10 this used to be called “Move”, the nice 
thing is that in iOS 11 you can drag/move multiple apps at once. After you 
start editing mode and have focus on the first app flick to Drag and double 
tap, now go to another app you want to move or maybe you want to create a new 
folder and also flick down to Drag and double tap. Each time you do this 
Voiceover says you added this to the drag session and once you have all the 
apps marked, now go to the folder you want to add them to, flick to Add to 
Folder and double tap.
It works like a charm and I have not heard anybody say it wasn’t working and 
now in iOS 11.1 the “edit” option is there again, prior to 11.1 you had to 
double tap and hold on an app like in the old days and now with devices which 
support 3D Touch quite a few people who maybe tend to tap their screen quite 
hard had problems with this because instead of starting editing mode they would 
invoke the 3D Touch shortcut menu.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Really confused about how to move apps now since updating to iOS 11

 The problem seems to be that once I put focus on the News folder, the ad to 
folder thing just isn’t there. I get an option to add the folder to the drag 
session, which I certainly don’t want to do. It’s just screwed up.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Drag is the new move.
So, flick to drag after you start editing and double tap.
Then, go to the folder you want to drop it into and flick down until you get to 
add newsline to folder.
Then you may here "drop ready" and then double tap and it should work.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am thoroughly confused as to how I move apps now since I updated. I wanted to 
get the NFB-Newsline into my News folder. So I started edit mode. But then when 
I flick all I see is drag. But double tapping and trying to move doesn’t get 
the job done. What the heck are you supposed to do to move file into a folder. 
Color me confused.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

2017-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I know this doesn't help you now, but as Mark said, I'd never buy a phone off 
anybody on Craigslist or eBay. In fact, last year I tried to sell my wife's 
iPhone 6 which was a 64 Gb Gold model on Craigslist when we were here in 
Calgary. I listed it on Craigslist as well as on Kijiki and after about 3 weeks 
I got one request which I think was genuine, all other replies to the add I got 
and I estimate I maybe had 60 to 80 were fake from people typically always with 
US area codes even though I specifically stated I was in Calgary near Foothills 
Medical Centre and that any transaction would have to take place in a public 
location (I suggested the nearby Apple Store) and that I would then only 
exchange the phone against cash. All replies followed the same pattern, 
somebody asked if the phone was still available, they wanted to buy it and send 
me the money by Paypal or sometimes via an Interac email money transfer, often 
they voluntarily said they would add an extra $100 for shipping because they 
wanted me to send the phone by FedEx directly to their girl-friend, brother, 
sister or whatever who were doing God's work as missionaries usually in some 
country in Africa. It was the first and last time I ever list anything on 
either one of these platforms.
In your case, Terri, I wonder if the guy you bought it from listed it as stolen 
himself or of course he might just sell stolen phones.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

Hello everyone,


I have had a rather odd situation come up, and I do not know at all what to 
think.


Back in the beginning of September, I bought an iPhone SE, from a 
gentleman on Craig's List, who purchases phones, then sales them. 
According to him, whenever he gets an iPhone, he holds on to it for a 
few weeks, before listing it, to make sure there aren't any issues.


Well I asked him last week, if he might have an SE with more space, 
around December, or so. He told me he would see what he could do. And he 
asked me in the mean time to get the phone I have on the T-Mobile 
network, unlocked. He said this would make it easier for him to sell. He 
was going to take this phone back, as a partial trade.


Well, I called yesterday to see what I needed to do. I was told by 
T-Mobile, that this phone had tried to be unlocked on the 19th. But 
that's not possible! But they said they could do it again. I told them 
that I never received unlocking instructions, or any emails from them, 
regarding such a thing.


Well, I was told by the gentleman on the phone, that within 24 hours, I 
should receive an email with instructions on how to unlock my phone, and 
a code. This never happened. But here is where things get really weird!


At about 9:15 this morning, which would have been about 24 hours from my 
call to T-mobile, yesterday, my phone lost service. So when my friend 
arrived, I asked her if she had service. I thought maybe there was an 
odd outage. But she had service. So we went to the T-Mobile store.

I explained everything to the woman that was there, and I could tell she 
wanted to try and help me. But the guy that was working there, had her 
go do something else, and I got the feeling he was trying to blow me 
off. So did my friend. I had tried to explain everything to him, and he 
just kept saying that I should go to the Apple store.


Well we left, and as we sat in the parking lot, I called T-Mobile on my 
friend's phone. I explained what went on yesterday when I called to get 
it unlocked. I explained what happened this morning, and how quickly it 
happened. And I told them I had gone to the local store to try and get help.


Well somehow, this phone was blocked. It was reported stolen.

Now how could that happen so suddenly?


So I contacted the man I bought the phone from, to begin with, and he 
told me that the phone didn't need to be unlocked, that only Android 
phones had to be unlocked.

This does not sound correct to me. But I know very little about this stuff.

Also, if it didn't need to be unlocked, why would he have asked me about 
doing it the other day?


So needless to say, I had to go back in to the T-Mobile store. I went 
with the LG K20 Plus, like I had tried once before. I only went with 
that 1 again, because I didn't have to put anything down, and everything 
else was so high, anyway.


I called T-mobile again, once I got home. They kept asking me if I could 
get hold of the original owner of the phone. I think I told them 3 times 
at least, that I didn't know who the original owner was.

So supposedly, this is being looked in to, and I should here back from 
T-Mobile by Friday, at the latest. Yes, lets just see what really 
happens there. Insane!


Thank you to all who may have read this. I do appreciate it.


Terri