RE: Accessible recipes App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Popular recipe sites like Foodnetwork, Epicurious etc. often have their own 
apps. I seem to remember that I downloaded the Food Network app at one point 
and found it pretty accessible. However, Paprika 3 is definitely a good one, as 
others said, it's not a recipe app in the traditional sense but an app for 
collecting recipes from a variety of sites. You just go to the browser section 
which basically let's you do a Google search for whatever you are looking for 
and you then browse the results. If you see one that looks good you can double 
tap on it and read the details and if you like it you save it to the app which 
pulls all the ingredients and directions into their proper tabs.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible recipes App

Hello. I've been looking into the current state of accessible cooking apps for 
an upcoming segment on Kelly and Company. Sadly, it appears that Yes Chef is no 
more. It has disappeared from the Canadian app store at any rate. The latest 
information I cold find from Conversant Labs was in 2017. It said nothing about 
them closing down but the app's gone and there's nothing more current.

There's still digging around to be done but the Betty Crocker one still seems 
useable as was suggested earlier. Also, another favourite on Applevis seems to 
be the Paprika3 Recipe manager. It lets you find recipes on the web and 
download them right from the page you find them on. It puts ingredients and 
directions in separate sections and can convert measurements. It seems like a 
very powerful cooking aid from what I've read. The Joy of Cooking is available 
as an app as well for around $10. It seems pretty accessible at first glance.

Another thing you may want to try is to buy a cookbook in the Apple Books or 
Kindle apps. I bought How to Cook Everything and it seems quite possible to 
navigate to recipes. They've clearly improved the Books app since iOS12 came 
out. It's not skipping text anymore thank goodness. I also got Salt Fat Acid 
Heat for Kindle but have yet to experiment with how practical the Kindle app is 
versus Books.

Another thing to perhaps try is watching the Salt Fat Acid Heat documentary on 
Netflix. It's fully described and all of the non-english discussion is 
translated into English as part of the audio description. There are doubtless 
other food-related shows out there which have been similarly described.

Hope that helps you out. Don't forget that the SEEing AI app and other apps 
might help identify things in the kitchen and/or follow instructions.



On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:53 PM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
You might want to try the Betty Crocker Cookbook.  It is now on version 8 point 
something and seems to work better.
One note though, it shows the chapters and recipes as headings, but if you 
double tap on them, it then opens up like it was a button or a link.

There is about 15,000 recipes.

It is free.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible recipes App

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, are there any accessible recipe Apps out there?
I am looking for 1 that will have all sorts of recipes, and that will be pretty 
accessible. I want to be able to get recipe recommendations. But I also want to 
be able to look through recipes, and even search for them.
It would also be nice to be able to find different recipes for certain needs. 
Such as, needing to use Splinda, or needs for a diabetic diet. But I don’t know 
if this sort of thing is possible.

Does anyone have any ideas?
I did an App search, and found an App I really liked. I believe it was called 
Yumly.
However, I couldn’t figure out how to save the recipes it showed me, that I 
wanted. The buttons weren’t labeled well, or at all.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

  To answer the   question, "What is the difference between an iPhone and a 
SmartPhone?”

An iPhone is a Smart Phone, but a Smart Phone is not necessarily an iPhone.  
Much like saying that a Buick is an automobile, this is certainly true but an 
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RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can't get around a passcode on an iPhone.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

You could also add a pass code to your phone.  That way somebody either has to 
know your pass code or be smart enough to figure out how to get around it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it is 
locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your contacts. I 
guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number Uncle Bob in 
which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle Bob's contact entry 
to see what numbers it may contain.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?
Thanks!


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.
Let me try to explain it differently.
When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
Line one, 1, 2, 3.
Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.
Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

The way that would look when I am finished is:
541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,
Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


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From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)



On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button 

Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

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An iPhone is a Smart Phone, but a Smart Phone is not necessarily an iPhone.  
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RE: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[mich verrier]

It might read that way but they are one in the same. From Mich.

 

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Sent: January 4, 2019 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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opinion, smart phones in general

 

Thanks for that Mich, but the article reads as though they, the IPhone and the 
SmartPhone,  are animals of very different colours.

 

  Jewel

 

From: mich verrier   

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 12:26 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my 
opinion, smart phones in general

 

Hi there is no diffrince a smart phone and a eye phone is just the name of many 
diffrint smart phones. For instince you could have a eye phone a androide phone 
and they are each smart phones. All that a smart phone meens is that it is a 
phone that is able to connect to the internet. Hth. From Mich.

 

 

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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Christopher Chaltain]

I didn't read that in the article at all. It seemed pretty clear it was 
talking about the smart phone boom and how Apple and Samsung were able 
to capitalize on that, but the free ride was now coming to an end for 
manufacturers like Apple and Samsung. It seemed pretty clear to me that 
the iPhone was a piece of the overall smart phone tapestry.



On 1/4/19 5:39 PM, Jewel wrote:
Thanks for that Mich, but the article reads as though they, the IPhone 
and the SmartPhone,  are animals of very different colours.

  Jewel

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*Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2019 12:26 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, 
in my opinion, smart phones in general


Hi there is no diffrince a smart phone and a eye phone is just the 
name of many diffrint smart phones. For instince you could have a eye 
phone a androide phone and they are each smart phones. All that a 
smart phone meens is that it is a phone that is able to connect to the 
internet. Hth. From Mich.


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Re: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Richard Turner]

you might also try the pass through gesture. Double tap and hold the second 
tap, when you hear the tritone, lift and then try another tap, or even a double 
tap.
The bottom line though, is they need to fix that part of the app.
Richard



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On Jan 4, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

GRRR... Sorry, I meant to type triple tapping. Not double tapping which you 
obviously already tried.

Cristóbal

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From: Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

Did you by any chance try double tapping or split tapping too? I find that 
sometimes, this works for finicky elements. Not often, but sometimes, I'm lucky.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sandra 
Finley
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
To: IPhone mailto:viPhone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one question. 
On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu button. Again, 
if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and he taps, it opens, 
and in there are all of the settings I have been looking for, like "my device", 
etc. Why can I not open that menu?

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RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

GRRR... Sorry, I meant to type triple tapping. Not double tapping which you 
obviously already tried.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal Muñoz  
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

Did you by any chance try double tapping or split tapping too? I find that 
sometimes, this works for finicky elements. Not often, but sometimes, I'm lucky.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandra 
Finley
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one question. 
On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu button. Again, 
if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and he taps, it opens, 
and in there are all of the settings I have been looking for, like "my device", 
etc. Why can I not open that menu?   

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RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Did you by any chance try double tapping or split tapping too? I find that 
sometimes, this works for finicky elements. Not often, but sometimes, I'm lucky.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandra 
Finley
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one question. 
On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu button. Again, 
if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and he taps, it opens, 
and in there are all of the settings I have been looking for, like "my device", 
etc. Why can I not open that menu?   

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Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Sandra Finley]

My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one question. 
On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu button. Again, 
if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and he taps, it opens, 
and in there are all of the settings I have been looking for, like "my device", 
etc. Why can I not open that menu?   

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Re: Amazon App

[Sherrie Gosling]

Sorry. Not used to answering emails on my phone. Forgot to tap to put the 
starting point at the top.
After I clear the browsing history I did not have to actually sign out of the 
app although I was ready to do so if necessary.
Details about clearing the browsing history in my first email in this thread. 
Open navigation menu. Go to your account. Scroll way down to the bottom of the 
list to find browsing history. That is where you can clear it.


Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> Ow do you clear browsing history from Amazon?  
> 
> Another problem I have with the Amazon app is that VoiceOver skips right over 
> the share button. Even with a braille display. Any tips? Wayne
> 
> Chime bear 
> musical notesbear face
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have to actually sign out or just clear the browsing history?
>> Thank you so much and I'll do just that.
>> Live  simply,
>>   Love generously,
>>   Care  deeply,
>>   Speak  kindly
>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>  Please join me on
>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sherrie Gosling
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Amazon App
>> 
>> Go to open navigation menu in upper left-hand corner. Then double tap on 
>> your account. It actually says the words your account. Then scroll and 
>> scroll way down to the bottom of the list and it has browsing history. 
>> That’s where you can clear it.
>> The sign out is under the settings choice in the navigation menu.
>> Hope this helps. Sherry Gosling
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:21 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you delete the history?
>>> Thank you.
>>> Live  simply,
>>>   Love generously,
>>>   Care  deeply,
>>>   Speak  kindly 
>>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>>  Please join me on
>>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sherrie Gosling
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Amazon App
>>> 
>>> I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
 I just want to be sure.
 Richard
 “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
 pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Rizzino, Bonnie
 Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
 To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
 Subject: Amazon App
 Hi,
 For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
 address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, 
 I deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when 
 signing in again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
 Thanks.
 Bonnie Rizzino
 Case Manager
 Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
 1816 Locust St.
 Pittsburgh, PA 15219
 www.bvrspittsburgh.org
 412-368-4400 X2246
 Direct dial 412-368-4079
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Re: Amazon App

[Sherrie Gosling]

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> Ow do you clear browsing history from Amazon?  
> 
> Another problem I have with the Amazon app is that VoiceOver skips right over 
> the share button. Even with a braille display. Any tips? Wayne
> 
> Chime bear 
> musical notesbear face
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have to actually sign out or just clear the browsing history?
>> Thank you so much and I'll do just that.
>> Live  simply,
>>   Love generously,
>>   Care  deeply,
>>   Speak  kindly
>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>  Please join me on
>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sherrie Gosling
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Amazon App
>> 
>> Go to open navigation menu in upper left-hand corner. Then double tap on 
>> your account. It actually says the words your account. Then scroll and 
>> scroll way down to the bottom of the list and it has browsing history. 
>> That’s where you can clear it.
>> The sign out is under the settings choice in the navigation menu.
>> Hope this helps. Sherry Gosling
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:21 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you delete the history?
>>> Thank you.
>>> Live  simply,
>>>   Love generously,
>>>   Care  deeply,
>>>   Speak  kindly 
>>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>>  Please join me on
>>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sherrie Gosling
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Amazon App
>>> 
>>> I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
 I just want to be sure.
 Richard
 “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
 pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Rizzino, Bonnie
 Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
 To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
 Subject: Amazon App
 Hi,
 For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
 address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, 
 I deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when 
 signing in again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
 Thanks.
 Bonnie Rizzino
 Case Manager
 Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
 1816 Locust St.
 Pittsburgh, PA 15219
 www.bvrspittsburgh.org
 412-368-4400 X2246
 Direct dial 412-368-4079
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Re: Amazon App

[Wayne Scott]

Ow do you clear browsing history from Amazon?  

Another problem I have with the Amazon app is that VoiceOver skips right over 
the share button. Even with a braille display. Any tips? Wayne

Chime bear 
musical notesbear face
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> Do you have to actually sign out or just clear the browsing history?
> Thank you so much and I'll do just that.
> Live  simply,
>   Love generously,
>   Care  deeply,
>   Speak  kindly
>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>  Please join me on
> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
> build a site to be proud of. 
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sherrie Gosling
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Amazon App
> 
> Go to open navigation menu in upper left-hand corner. Then double tap on your 
> account. It actually says the words your account. Then scroll and scroll way 
> down to the bottom of the list and it has browsing history. That’s where you 
> can clear it.
> The sign out is under the settings choice in the navigation menu.
> Hope this helps. Sherry Gosling
> 
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:21 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you delete the history?
>> Thank you.
>> Live  simply,
>>   Love generously,
>>   Care  deeply,
>>   Speak  kindly
>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>  Please join me on
>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sherrie Gosling
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: Amazon App
>> 
>> I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
>>> I just want to be sure.
>>> Richard
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Rizzino, Bonnie
>>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>>> Subject: Amazon App
>>> Hi,
>>> For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
>>> address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, 
>>> I deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when 
>>> signing in again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Bonnie Rizzino
>>> Case Manager
>>> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
>>> 1816 Locust St.
>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>>> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
>>> 412-368-4400 X2246
>>> Direct dial 412-368-4079
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Re: Amazon App

[Julie Dawson]

Do you have to actually sign out or just clear the browsing history?
Thank you so much and I'll do just that.
Live  simply,
  Love generously,
  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
  And  leave the rest to God! 
 Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of. 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherrie Gosling 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Amazon App


  Go to open navigation menu in upper left-hand corner. Then double tap on your 
account. It actually says the words your account. Then scroll and scroll way 
down to the bottom of the list and it has browsing history. That’s where you 
can clear it.
  The sign out is under the settings choice in the navigation menu.
  Hope this helps. Sherry Gosling



  Sent from Sherrie's iPhone





  On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:21 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:


How do you delete the history? 
Thank you.
Live  simply,
  Love generously,
  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
  And  leave the rest to God! 
 Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of. 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherrie Gosling 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Amazon App


  I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. 
Yay 



  Sent from Sherrie's iPhone 





  On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Did you delete your Safari browsing history?

I just want to be sure.


Richard




“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Rizzino, Bonnie
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Amazon App


Hi,

For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I 
deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in 
again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks. 

Thanks.

Bonnie Rizzino 

Case Manager

Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

1816 Locust St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15219

www.bvrspittsburgh.org

412-368-4400 X2246

Direct dial 412-368-4079


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RE: Amazon App

[Mr. Ed]

Where do you go to delete the history?

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie Gosling
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon App

 

I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay

 

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone

 

 


On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Did you delete your Safari browsing history?

I just want to be sure.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rizzino, 
Bonnie
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Amazon App

 

Hi,

For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping address 
and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I deleted 
both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in again, I 
was able to accomplish both of these tasks. 

Thanks.

Bonnie Rizzino 

Case Manager

Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

1816 Locust St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15219

www.bvrspittsburgh.org

412-368-4400 X2246

Direct dial 412-368-4079

 

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Re: Amazon App

[Sherrie Gosling]

Go to open navigation menu in upper left-hand corner. Then double tap on your 
account. It actually says the words your account. Then scroll and scroll way 
down to the bottom of the list and it has browsing history. That’s where you 
can clear it.
The sign out is under the settings choice in the navigation menu.
Hope this helps. Sherry Gosling


Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:21 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> How do you delete the history?
> Thank you.
> Live  simply,
>   Love generously,
>   Care  deeply,
>   Speak  kindly
>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>  Please join me on
> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
> build a site to be proud of. 
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sherrie Gosling
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Amazon App
> 
> I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay
> 
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
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>> Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
>> I just want to be sure.
>> Richard
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Rizzino, Bonnie
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: Amazon App
>> Hi,
>> For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
>> address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I 
>> deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing 
>> in again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
>> Thanks.
>> Bonnie Rizzino
>> Case Manager
>> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
>> 1816 Locust St.
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
>> 412-368-4400 X2246
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Re: Amazon App

[Julie Dawson]

How do you delete the history? 
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  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:12 PM
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  I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay



  Sent from Sherrie's iPhone





  On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Did you delete your Safari browsing history?

I just want to be sure.



Richard







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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Amazon App



Hi,

For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping 
address and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I 
deleted both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in 
again, I was able to accomplish both of these tasks. 

Thanks.

Bonnie Rizzino 

Case Manager

Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh

1816 Locust St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15219

www.bvrspittsburgh.org

412-368-4400 X2246

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Re: Accessible recipes App

[Michael Feir]

Hello. I've been looking into the current state of accessible cooking apps
for an upcoming segment on Kelly and Company. Sadly, it appears that Yes
Chef is no more. It has disappeared from the Canadian app store at any
rate. The latest information I cold find from Conversant Labs was in 2017.
It said nothing about them closing down but the app's gone and there's
nothing more current.

There's still digging around to be done but the Betty Crocker one still
seems useable as was suggested earlier. Also, another favourite on Applevis
seems to be the Paprika3 Recipe manager. It lets you find recipes on the
web and download them right from the page you find them on. It puts
ingredients and directions in separate sections and can convert
measurements. It seems like a very powerful cooking aid from what I've
read. The Joy of Cooking is available as an app as well for around $10. It
seems pretty accessible at first glance.

Another thing you may want to try is to buy a cookbook in the Apple Books
or Kindle apps. I bought How to Cook Everything and it seems quite possible
to navigate to recipes. They've clearly improved the Books app since iOS12
came out. It's not skipping text anymore thank goodness. I also got Salt
Fat Acid Heat for Kindle but have yet to experiment with how practical the
Kindle app is versus Books.

Another thing to perhaps try is watching the Salt Fat Acid Heat documentary
on Netflix. It's fully described and all of the non-english discussion is
translated into English as part of the audio description. There are
doubtless other food-related shows out there which have been similarly
described.

Hope that helps you out. Don't forget that the SEEing AI app and other apps
might help identify things in the kitchen and/or follow instructions.



On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:53 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> You might want to try the Betty Crocker Cookbook.  It is now on version 8
> point something and seems to work better.
> One note though, it shows the chapters and recipes as headings, but if you
> double tap on them, it then opens up like it was a button or a link.
>
> There is about 15,000 recipes.
>
> It is free.
>
> Richard
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessible recipes App
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I was wondering, are there any accessible recipe Apps out there?
> I am looking for 1 that will have all sorts of recipes, and that will be
> pretty accessible. I want to be able to get recipe recommendations. But I
> also want to be able to look through recipes, and even search for them.
> It would also be nice to be able to find different recipes for certain
> needs. Such as, needing to use Splinda, or needs for a diabetic diet. But I
> don’t know if this sort of thing is possible.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> I did an App search, and found an App I really liked. I believe it was
> called Yumly.
> However, I couldn’t figure out how to save the recipes it showed me, that
> I wanted. The buttons weren’t labeled well, or at all.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Terri
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Re: Accessible recipes App

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Hi,
we have the Paprica recipe App. Works well on my Mac and iDevices.
Max.

> On 5 Jan 2019, at 9:53 am, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was wondering, are there any accessible recipe Apps out there?
> I am looking for 1 that will have all sorts of recipes, and that will be 
> pretty accessible. I want to be able to get recipe recommendations. But I 
> also want to be able to look through recipes, and even search for them.
> It would also be nice to be able to find different recipes for certain needs. 
> Such as, needing to use Splinda, or needs for a diabetic diet. But I don’t 
> know if this sort of thing is possible.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> I did an App search, and found an App I really liked. I believe it was called 
> Yumly.
> However, I couldn’t figure out how to save the recipes it showed me, that I 
> wanted. The buttons weren’t labeled well, or at all.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Sherrie Gosling]

To finger double tap does not work to silence the audio in this app. Maybe I 
will have to call spectrum.

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried this, but have you tried a two finger double tap to
> silence the audio while watching live TV?
> 
>> On 1/4/19, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
>> I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to
>> navigate. I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is
>> currently playing on each in a list.
>> I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play
>> it on the living room TV!
>> What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When
>> I go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio
>> from some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through
>> the list and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the
>> previous one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the
>> living room TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or
>> so off from the audio from the actual TV.
>> I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when
>> watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.
>> Sherrie Gosling
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Jim Fettgather
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>> 
>> I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also
>> works delightfully well right from with in the app.
>> Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play
>> immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.
>> 
>> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App
>> 
>> Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just
>> wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP
>> channel for that .. which is another topic all together …
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>> 
>> Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to
>> the secondary audio channel.
>> I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor
>> have I found any fast forward controls.
>> I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.
>> There is a bit of a problem with the guide.
>> You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on
>> network schedule for that channel.
>> The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the
>> day that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the
>> program, but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then
>> announced correctly.
>> I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could
>> be made.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Spectrum TV App
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions
>> relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …
>> 
>> I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also
>> switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching
>> recorded stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and
>> are you able to rewind and fast forward?
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance …
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Re: Amazon App

[Sherrie Gosling]

I deleted my Amazon browsing history and the app now works fine again. Yay


Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
> I just want to be sure.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Amazon App
>  
> Hi,
> For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping address 
> and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I deleted 
> both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in again, 
> I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
> Thanks.
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
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RE: Accessible recipes App

[Richard Turner]

You might want to try the Betty Crocker Cookbook.  It is now on version 8 point 
something and seems to work better.
One note though, it shows the chapters and recipes as headings, but if you 
double tap on them, it then opens up like it was a button or a link.

There is about 15,000 recipes.

It is free.

Richard


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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible recipes App

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, are there any accessible recipe Apps out there?
I am looking for 1 that will have all sorts of recipes, and that will be pretty 
accessible. I want to be able to get recipe recommendations. But I also want to 
be able to look through recipes, and even search for them.
It would also be nice to be able to find different recipes for certain needs. 
Such as, needing to use Splinda, or needs for a diabetic diet. But I don’t know 
if this sort of thing is possible.

Does anyone have any ideas?
I did an App search, and found an App I really liked. I believe it was called 
Yumly.
However, I couldn’t figure out how to save the recipes it showed me, that I 
wanted. The buttons weren’t labeled well, or at all.

Thank you,

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RE: Accessible bluetooth microwave

[Robert Wright]

On amazon they have a GE Alexa enabled microwave .900 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible bluetooth microwave



Sent from my iPhoneHello everyone,

I was wondering, are there any accessible, bluetooth inabled microwaves out 
there, that have user-friendly Apps?
I need to replace my microwave, and I would like to get 1 that I don’t 
necessarily have to worry about labeling.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thank you,

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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Jewel]

Thanks for that Mich, but the article reads as though they, the IPhone and the 
SmartPhone,  are animals of very different colours.

  Jewel


From: mich verrier 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my 
opinion, smart phones in general


Hi there is no diffrince a smart phone and a eye phone is just the name of many 
diffrint smart phones. For instince you could have a eye phone a androide phone 
and they are each smart phones. All that a smart phone meens is that it is a 
phone that is able to connect to the internet. Hth. From Mich.

 

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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Christopher Chaltain]

An iPhone is a smart phone. A smart phone is a phone that has many of 
the capabilities of a computer, such as downloading and installing 3rd 
party apps. Phones running the Android operating system would also be 
considered smart phones.




On 1/4/19 5:23 PM, Jewel wrote:

A very basic question from a very basic nincompoop!
What is the difference between an IPhone and a SmartPhone?

*From:* Sieghard Weitzel 
*Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2019 6:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in 
my opinion, smart phones in general


While the below article is about the iPhone in particular, I think it 
applies to all smart phones. Just as we see declining numbers in 
desktop and even laptop sales, smart phone sales will eventually 
plateau and possibly decline. After almost 12 years of the iPhone and 
if you count the earlier Blackberries and Windows/Nokia phones as 
early smart phones an even longer history of smart phones, these 
devices are now quite mature and as all mature products people will 
realize they don't necessarily have to get a new one every year or 
two. Yes, there are still untapped markets, but in terms of numbers a 
lot of these untapped markets are poorer people in countries like 
China, India, Africa etc. who can never in their life afford an iPhone 
or, for that matter, a high-end Samsung or Google smartphone. It is 
interesting how Foxcom apparently is investing hundreds of millions to 
expand a manufacturing facility in India where it is rumoured a lot of 
future iPhone production will take place instead of in their existing 
facilities in China. In any case, it still won't mean Apple will 
suddenly go bankrupt or become some third-rate corporation of little 
importance, they are rich enough and offer so many services and I am 
sure will find ways to adapt and compensate for potentially less 
revenue coming in from hardware sales. Here now the link to the article:


The ride is over: Apple faces the end of the iPhone boom 



Regards,

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RE: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[mich verrier]

Hi there is no diffrince a smart phone and a eye phone is just the name of many 
diffrint smart phones. For instince you could have a eye phone a androide phone 
and they are each smart phones. All that a smart phone meens is that it is a 
phone that is able to connect to the internet. Hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my 
opinion, smart phones in general

 

A very basic question from a very basic nincompoop!

What is the difference between an IPhone and a SmartPhone?

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 6:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, 
smart phones in general

 

While the below article is about the iPhone in particular, I think it applies 
to all smart phones. Just as we see declining numbers in desktop and even 
laptop sales, smart phone sales will eventually plateau and possibly decline. 
After almost 12 years of the iPhone and if you count the earlier Blackberries 
and Windows/Nokia phones as early smart phones an even longer history of smart 
phones, these devices are now quite mature and as all mature products people 
will realize they don't necessarily have to get a new one every year or two. 
Yes, there are still untapped markets, but in terms of numbers a lot of these 
untapped markets are poorer people in countries like China, India, Africa etc. 
who can never in their life afford an iPhone or, for that matter, a high-end 
Samsung or Google smartphone. It is interesting how Foxcom apparently is 
investing hundreds of millions to expand a manufacturing facility in India 
where it is rumoured a lot of future iPhone production will take place instead 
of in their existing facilities in China. In any case, it still won't mean 
Apple will suddenly go bankrupt or become some third-rate corporation of little 
importance, they are rich enough and offer so many services and I am sure will 
find ways to adapt and compensate for potentially less revenue coming in from 
hardware sales. Here now the link to the article:

 

The ride is over: Apple faces the end of the iPhone boom 
 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Jewel]

A very basic question from a very basic nincompoop!
What is the difference between an IPhone and a SmartPhone?



From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 6:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, 
smart phones in general


While the below article is about the iPhone in particular, I think it applies 
to all smart phones. Just as we see declining numbers in desktop and even 
laptop sales, smart phone sales will eventually plateau and possibly decline. 
After almost 12 years of the iPhone and if you count the earlier Blackberries 
and Windows/Nokia phones as early smart phones an even longer history of smart 
phones, these devices are now quite mature and as all mature products people 
will realize they don't necessarily have to get a new one every year or two. 
Yes, there are still untapped markets, but in terms of numbers a lot of these 
untapped markets are poorer people in countries like China, India, Africa etc. 
who can never in their life afford an iPhone or, for that matter, a high-end 
Samsung or Google smartphone. It is interesting how Foxcom apparently is 
investing hundreds of millions to expand a manufacturing facility in India 
where it is rumoured a lot of future iPhone production will take place instead 
of in their existing facilities in China. In any case, it still won't mean 
Apple will suddenly go bankrupt or become some third-rate corporation of little 
importance, they are rich enough and offer so many services and I am sure will 
find ways to adapt and compensate for potentially less revenue coming in from 
hardware sales. Here now the link to the article:

 

The ride is over: Apple faces the end of the iPhone boom

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 


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Accessible recipes App

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, are there any accessible recipe Apps out there?
I am looking for 1 that will have all sorts of recipes, and that will be pretty 
accessible. I want to be able to get recipe recommendations. But I also want to 
be able to look through recipes, and even search for them.
It would also be nice to be able to find different recipes for certain needs. 
Such as, needing to use Splinda, or needs for a diabetic diet. But I don’t know 
if this sort of thing is possible.

Does anyone have any ideas?
I did an App search, and found an App I really liked. I believe it was called 
Yumly.
However, I couldn’t figure out how to save the recipes it showed me, that I 
wanted. The buttons weren’t labeled well, or at all.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Spectrum TV App

[Jim Fettgather]

I have not tried this, but have you tried a two finger double tap to
silence the audio while watching live TV?

On 1/4/19, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to
> navigate. I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is
> currently playing on each in a list.
> I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play
> it on the living room TV!
> What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When
> I go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio
> from some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through
> the list and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the
> previous one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the
> living room TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or
> so off from the audio from the actual TV.
> I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when
> watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.
> Sherrie Gosling
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>
> I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also
> works delightfully well right from with in the app.
> Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play
> immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.
>
> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App
>
> Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just
> wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP
> channel for that .. which is another topic all together …
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
> Fettgather
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
>
> Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to
> the secondary audio channel.
> I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor
> have I found any fast forward controls.
> I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.
> There is a bit of a problem with the guide.
> You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on
> network schedule for that channel.
> The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the
> day that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the
> program, but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then
> announced correctly.
> I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could
> be made.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: pdlloga...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spectrum TV App
>
> Hello,
>
> Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions
> relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …
>
> I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also
> switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching
> recorded stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and
> are you able to rewind and fast forward?
>
> Thanks for any assistance …
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Re: Amazon App

[Judy Pryor]

I have tried doing that and my Amazon app is still not working.


Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 21:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
> I just want to be sure.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:03 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Amazon App
>  
> Hi,
> For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping address 
> and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I deleted 
> both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in again, 
> I was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
> Thanks.
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
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RE: Amazon App

[Richard Turner]

Did you delete your Safari browsing history?
I just want to be sure.

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Hi,
For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping address 
and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I deleted 
both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in again, I 
was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
Thanks.
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RE: Activating walkie-talkie

[Jennie]

Hi Ann,

After you add contacts, they have to accept your invitation. After that, your 
contacts should appear if they are available.
Jenn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Activating walkie-talkie

Trying to set up walkie-talkie, I can get as far as adding friends from 
contacts on my iPhone, but the contacts list isn't talking to my watch.  Can 
someone please give me step-by-step instructions on how to make this 
application work?

Thanks,

Ann

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[goshawk on horseback]

tried that before, as I used to have one with memory keys, but it didn't seem 
to work. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  Just find an old touchtone pad and, hold it up to the mic on the iPhone.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

  On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:44 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:


same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. 
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. 

Simon 


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  From: Angie Nutt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 






On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  
wrote:


There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have 
it automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers. 
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press 
pound, put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the 
phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  
You need to do this for each comma.


Sentfrom my iPhone 

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:


  When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are 
times we need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. 
With inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While 
I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me. 






  On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:


  I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer 
version, but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and 
how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they 
are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make 
touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very 
efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better 
off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss 
something here, but I just don't get it.
  Regards,
  Sieghard
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
  I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the 
Rivo 2, the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch 
screen, on Audio Pizza:
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Re: Accessible bluetooth microwave

[Yolanda Thompson]

We got the Amazon Basics microwave, and yes it is only 700 watts, but
for $60 I find it to do everything just fine.  You can control power
levels times, etc.

On 1/4/19, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> The Amazon Basics is 700 watts.  The G E is 900 watts and that is the one
> that I currently have.  Yes, it is a bit shy on wattage and I was worried
> about that, but all and all, it does a good job.  The last microwave we had
>
> was 1200 watts.  We set this new one up with no help and have as of yet to
> label it.   I will do this soon, but you can use it with no trouble with
> Alexa.  The model is:
> GE Microwave - JES1097SMSS
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Accessible bluetooth microwave
>
>
> The bad thing about that connected microwave and it's not an insignificant
> one is that it's something like only 750 wats. For heating up things,
> passable, but not much beyond that. If you want a well performing microwave
>
> that you can also cook in or at least reheat evenly, you need at least 1000
>
> wats.
> Wattage
> Microwave wattage equals power. In general, the higher the wattage, the
> faster and more evenly your food will cook. Most microwaves sit somewhere
> between 600-1,200 watts. Larger, more expensive microwaves tend to have a
> higher wattage, so this is a price and size consideration that can strongly
>
> influence microwave cooking performance.
> https://www.cnet.com/topics/microwaves/buying-guide/
> I recently bought a Panasonic model with 1250 wats which is really strong. I
>
> was blowing things up until I got the feel for it. It's not connected in any
>
> way, but has tactile buttons which is a huge help and was what I was looking
>
> for instead of a smooth panel. It's 2.2 cubic feet. It's a beast and takes
> up a lot of counterspace, but I have a big kitchen so that was no big deal.
> Anyway, other than that Alexa microwave that recently came out, I'm not
> really aware of any sort of other connected microwaves. I do have a
> Bluetooth kitchen scale that I use all the time and I believe that the same
>
> company also has other connected devices, but no microwave.
> https://getdrop.com/appliances/
> Looks like wifi connected ovens and multipurpose devices, but no microwave.
>
> I'm not in need of replacing my oven, but if I were looking for one, I might
>
> even be interested in looking into it since the iOS app is pretty accessible
>
> for the scale anyway.
> Good luck.
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Byrne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible bluetooth microwave
>
> We just bought a GE microwave that can be controlled by Alexa.  It is
> wondrously hands-free, although there are buttons behind one of those lovely
>
> flat plastic panels if you want to find and press them.
>   At 07:10 PM 1/3/2019, you wrote:
>
>
>>Sent from my iPhoneHello everyone,
>>
>>I was wondering, are there any accessible, bluetooth inabled microwaves
>>out there, that have user-friendly Apps?
>>I need to replace my microwave, and I would like to get 1 that I
>>donâ?Tt necessarily have to worry about labeling.
>>
>>Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>
>>Terri
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Re: Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[lenron brown]

Most likely most sales will come from software now. It was bound to
happen at some point. No one really needs to upgrade every year.

On 1/4/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> While the below article is about the iPhone in particular, I think it
> applies to all smart phones. Just as we see declining numbers in desktop and
> even laptop sales, smart phone sales will eventually plateau and possibly
> decline. After almost 12 years of the iPhone and if you count the earlier
> Blackberries and Windows/Nokia phones as early smart phones an even longer
> history of smart phones, these devices are now quite mature and as all
> mature products people will realize they don't necessarily have to get a new
> one every year or two. Yes, there are still untapped markets, but in terms
> of numbers a lot of these untapped markets are poorer people in countries
> like China, India, Africa etc. who can never in their life afford an iPhone
> or, for that matter, a high-end Samsung or Google smartphone. It is
> interesting how Foxcom apparently is investing hundreds of millions to
> expand a manufacturing facility in India where it is rumoured a lot of
> future iPhone production will take place instead of in their existing
> facilities in China. In any case, it still won't mean Apple will suddenly go
> bankrupt or become some third-rate corporation of little importance, they
> are rich enough and offer so many services and I am sure will find ways to
> adapt and compensate for potentially less revenue coming in from hardware
> sales. Here now the link to the article:
>
> The ride is over: Apple faces the end of the iPhone
> boom
>
>
> Regards,
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Re: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Ryan Mann]

You could also add a pass code to your phone.  That way somebody either has to 
know your pass code or be smart enough to figure out how to get around it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it 
> is locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your 
> contacts. I guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number 
> Uncle Bob in which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle 
> Bob's contact entry to see what numbers it may contain.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil 
> M.
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
> iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
> doing this?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
> Without a Touchscreen
>  
> I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
> difficult.
> Let me try to explain it differently.
> When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
> in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
> calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
> you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the 
> code or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
> Line one, 1, 2, 3.
> Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
> Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
> Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
> Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
> That last line is a bit lower on the screen.
>  
> When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
> Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed. 
> Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
> Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
> Line 4, shift, plus, delete.
>  
> You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
> available once you activate the shift.
>  
> So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
> 541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
> would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
> digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.
>  
> The way that would look when I am finished is:
> 541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#
>  
> If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
> 541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.
>  
> It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have 
> experimented a few times, I hope you find it useful,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
>  
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> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>  
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone 
> system answers.
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
> in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
> to do this for each comma.
>  
> Sentfrom my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
> to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> In my 

RE: Spectrum TV App

[Sherrie Gosling]

I recently signed up for the Spectrum app and find it fairly easy to navigate. 
I love that I can pick my favorite channels and then see what is currently 
playing on each in a list.
I also like that I can choose a program on my phone and then choose to play it 
on the living room TV!
What I can’t figure out is how to make the app stop playing a choice.  When I 
go to a tab for example Live TV, it immediately starts playing the audio from 
some station, probably the last one I was watching. I can go through the list 
and if I choose something it will replace the audio I hear from the previous 
one. But it won’t go silent.  Even when I choose to play it on the living room 
TV the phone still keeps playing the audio and it is a second or so off from 
the audio from the actual TV.
I have been using a work around of closing the app in the app switcher when 
watching on the TV but want to know how to silence the app.
Sherrie Gosling

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From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App

I do have a DVR box, and you can get on demand from that box, but it also works 
delightfully well right from with in the app.
Thousands of programs, and they are very very easy to find and to play 
immediately, either on your phone, or through the DVR box.
 
From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Spectrum TV App
 
Thanks for the response …  Do you still have the traditional DVR box?  Just 
wondering as if you are doing “on demand”, there isn’t normally a SAP channel 
for that .. which is another topic all together … 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spectrum TV App
 
Hello, you are indeed correct that while watching live TV, you can switch to 
the secondary audio channel.  
I have not found a way to do this while watching a program from the DVR, nor 
have I found any fast forward controls.
I’m using the latest Spectrum app on an iPhone with IOS 12.
There is a bit of a problem with the guide.
You can easily scroll through the guide for any given channel, then tap on 
network schedule for that channel.
The programs are listed, but Voiceover does not announce the times of the day 
that programs are airing. It just simply says Time,, the name of the program, 
but then if you elect to record the program, the times are then announced 
correctly.
I like the app pretty well, but there some definite improvements that could be 
made.
Thanks.
 
 
 
From: pdlloga...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Spectrum TV App
 
Hello,
 
Looking at moving to Spectrum from Direct TV.  Had a couple of questions 
relating to the IPhone and IPad apps for Spectrum …
 
I know you can watch live TV with the app, and understand that you can also 
switch the secondary audio…is this correct?  Also, as far as watching recorded 
stuff from your DVR, are you able to switch the audio there .. and are you able 
to rewind and fast forward?
 
Thanks for any assistance … 
 
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Interesting article about the future of the iPhone and, in my opinion, smart phones in general

[Sieghard Weitzel]

While the below article is about the iPhone in particular, I think it applies 
to all smart phones. Just as we see declining numbers in desktop and even 
laptop sales, smart phone sales will eventually plateau and possibly decline. 
After almost 12 years of the iPhone and if you count the earlier Blackberries 
and Windows/Nokia phones as early smart phones an even longer history of smart 
phones, these devices are now quite mature and as all mature products people 
will realize they don't necessarily have to get a new one every year or two. 
Yes, there are still untapped markets, but in terms of numbers a lot of these 
untapped markets are poorer people in countries like China, India, Africa etc. 
who can never in their life afford an iPhone or, for that matter, a high-end 
Samsung or Google smartphone. It is interesting how Foxcom apparently is 
investing hundreds of millions to expand a manufacturing facility in India 
where it is rumoured a lot of future iPhone production will take place instead 
of in their existing facilities in China. In any case, it still won't mean 
Apple will suddenly go bankrupt or become some third-rate corporation of little 
importance, they are rich enough and offer so many services and I am sure will 
find ways to adapt and compensate for potentially less revenue coming in from 
hardware sales. Here now the link to the article:

The ride is over: Apple faces the end of the iPhone 
boom


Regards,
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Anthony Vece]

I can talk to my banks automated system and check everything I need

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> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
> to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
> the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
> are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but 
> I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring 
> to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I 
> also know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have 
> the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head 
> round it; it just isn’t for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
>> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
>> money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
>> matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
>> cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they 
>> are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
>> very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make 
>> touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing 
>> very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are 
>> better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I 
>> miss something here, but I just don't get  it.
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
>> Kiehne
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
>> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
>> Audio Pizza:
>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Anthony Vece]

The lighter the touch on the touch screen the better response you will get.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> Yes that’s another thing I’ve heard that people have trouble with: needing to 
> type a number quickly in order to get where you need to be in a menu on a 
> call. Not something I’ve needed to do as yet.
> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:19, Arlene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
>>> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
>>> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
>>> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Angie Nutt
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I 
>>> just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
 for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how 
 much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
 matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
 cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
 they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
 lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
 make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
 typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
 they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
 possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Russ 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Anthony Vece]

Just find an old touchtone pad and, hold it up to the mic on the iPhone.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:44 AM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)   
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
>> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
>> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
>> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s 
>> phone system answers.
>> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
>> put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
>> number:
>> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
>> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
>> need to do this for each comma.
>> 
>> Sentfrom my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
>>> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
>>> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
>>> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Angie Nutt
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I 
>>> just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
 for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how 
 much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
 matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
 cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
 they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
 lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
 make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
 typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
 they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
 possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Russ 
 Kiehne
 Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it is 
locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your contacts. I 
guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number Uncle Bob in 
which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle Bob's contact entry 
to see what numbers it may contain.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.
Let me try to explain it differently.
When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
Line one, 1, 2, 3.
Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.
Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

The way that would look when I am finished is:
541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,
Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)



On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my 

RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Simon,

If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to add a 
comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then save the 
contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy it is. 
If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your account 
number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then enter your 
account number and save.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is if you still use telephone banking. All my credit card companies have 
apps where I can quickly and easily check my balance, recent transactions and 
all that. They all offer authentication through Touch Id or Face Id so all I 
have to do is open the app or ask SIRI to open it and sign on using my 
fingerprint. In the time it takes somebody to call the appropriate phone number 
I am already looking at the information and in the case of my bank app, I may 
be already in the middle of doing whatever transaction I need to do whether 
it's paying a bill, transferring an amount from one account to another, sending 
an Interac email money transfer to somebody etc.

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on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
Importance: High

telephone banking or credit card companies are generally the main things you 
need to do this for, and I can see this device being rather useful for that, if 
nothing else.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Yes that’s another thing I’ve heard that people have trouble with: needing to 
type a number quickly in order to get where you need to be in a menu on a call. 
Not something I’ve needed to do as yet.


On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:19, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: 
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 On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you played with the customizations the iPhone offers for people like you 
who may have difficulties as you describe them?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I would like to offer a different perspective here. I have Parkinson’s Disease 
and, while it is not severe (and my docs do not think it  will be), I have come 
to appreciate just how much subtle motor control   It takes to use the iPhone 
touch screen. The one thing I  have had to give  up because of Parkinson’s that 
made me sad is using a slate and stylus, which is something I used to do daily 
with considerable speed and accuracy... in fact,that was the impetus that sent 
me to the neurologist. I also have occasional difficulty controlling how many 
times I tap something,be it the iPhone screen or my Victor when I enter the 
title of a book with that cockamainey texting system it uses.


I am using a Bluetooth keyboard to type this message which, as indicated by  
its length, presents no problem for me. It is the subtle control needed to 
punch dot 4 instead of 1 with a stylus, or to double tap on the phone that is 
challenging.Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Angie Nutt 
mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: 
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 On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's a one-time process and if you already have your bank's telephone banking 
number stored in the contacts it would take very little effort to edit that 
contact and add the appropriate symbols and numbers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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My Scotia Bank app for the iPhone has a widget which let's you display your 
account balance on the Today screen. Maybe not everybody is comfortable with 
this, but my phone is secured with a passcode and Touch Id and while somebody 
could potentially see your balance it's not like they can do anything with it. 
If I want to know I just unlock my phone with Touch Id, do a 3-finger swipe 
left to right, touch my phone about in the middle and that usually puts me 
right on it. The entire thing takes me less than 10 seconds.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Kiehne
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Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Fazil M.]

Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

 

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.

Let me try to explain it differently.

When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.

Line one, 1, 2, 3.

Line 2, 4, 5, 6.

Line 3, 7, 8, 9.

Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,

Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.

That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

 

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:

Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.  

Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.

Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.

Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

 

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

 

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:

541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

 

The way that would look when I am finished is:

541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

 

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:

541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

 

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,

Richard

 

 

 

 

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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. 

also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. 

 

Simon 

 

 

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From: Angie Nutt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 

 

 

 

On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:

 

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers. 

For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:

Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#

You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

 

Sentfrom my iPhone 


On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:

When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.

- Original Message -

From: Angie Nutt  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me. 

 

 

 

On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 

RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Strictly speaking it is not, this special Bluetooth keyboard is meant to be 
used almost stand-alone since it has speakers. Of course it has to be connected 
to your iPhone, but I guess the idea is that you leave your iPhone in your 
pocket or backpack and use this gadget. Of course I am sure there will be 
situations where you still have to use your iPhone and as bad as it apparently 
seems to be for some, to touch that horrible touch screen. If this thing cost 
$29.99 I might buy it, but at $299.99 which I assume is US which means at the 
current exchange rate it would probably cost $399.99 Canadian I can certainly 
do without and have one less item sitting around which needs to be charged and 
all that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

A Bluetooth keyboard will the same thing.
Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Jan 3, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I didn’t listen that far in the podcast, but I suspect that might be so, or it 
uses some variation on braille, but frankly, I think it is a bit silly, unless 
it does meet a specific need of someone with a particular disability, but to 
plug it as a way to use the iPhone without the touch screen is very misleading.
I can already do that with a Bluetooth keyboard or a braille device like the 
Orbit Reader 20.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

And how would you say write a text message or email with 20 buttons? Please 
don't tell me it uses the old T9 method where you have to press the number 2 
three times for the letter C etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I agree Sieghard,
This won’t help you if you are a quadriplegic, etc.  It is a modified Bluetooth 
keyboard with 20 buttons and you have to learn their system of button 
combinations to accomplish what you want.  It does offer a micro and speaker so 
the sound is coming out of the little keyboardish device.
But, if you have some finger dexterity but not enough to use a standard 
Bluetooth keyboard, I guess there might be some uses for this.  It must be 
targeting a small market given that the price is rather high.

Just my two cents worth, and it didn’t cost you anything, grin.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
Pizza:
http://bit.ly/2LMApbp

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programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.
Let me try to explain it differently.
When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
Line one, 1, 2, 3.
Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.
Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

The way that would look when I am finished is:
541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,
Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 

Amazon App

[Rizzino, Bonnie]

Hi,
For what it is worth, the Amazon app does now work to select shipping address 
and also to place an order. Taking the advice of customer service, I deleted 
both my browsing history and signed out of the app and when signing in again, I 
was able to accomplish both of these tasks.
Thanks.
Bonnie Rizzino
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RE: Using the Amazon App, and a coupon code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am sure it's possible, but the Amazon app currently has a bug which doesn't 
let you select the shipping address. I would suggest you use Safari to go to 
Amazon.com on your iPhone and order the item there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using the Amazon App, and a coupon code

Hello once more everyone,

This is my last message for now. I appreciate the help.

I was wondering, does anyone know how I would go about using the Amazon App, 
and somehow entering a coupon code?
I got a deal on some phone chargers. But I have to go to Amazon and enter this 
code, in order to get the deal. I don’t know how to do this. Or even if it’s 
possible.
Might I just have to break down and do this on the web?

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Unable to buy anything on Amazon using iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As Richard said, you can always use Safari on the iPhone and go to the Amazon 
mobile site which should work. Of course this needs to be fixed in the app, but 
as a hopefully temporary work-around this should work if you don't have a 
computer or don't want to use it for some reason.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nicola 
Sanders
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to buy anything on Amazon using iPhone


Hi all,

This is a very annoying problem. I recently made a purchase using the app and I 
was only able to select the address by locating the "send to this address" 
button on the screen, turning VoiceOver off, touching the screen once at the 
exact location and immediately turning VoiceOver back on. Obghiously you have 
to be very careful when doing this, as in my case the relevant button was very 
close to the "delete this address" button, but I was lucky and it worked first 
time. Of course, I realize that this workaround is not an acceptable solution 
and I'll contact Amazon about it as well. I only mention it in case, like me, 
you're really stuck and need to get the job done without waiting for access to 
a PC.
Best
Nicky

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Jan 2019, at 20:13, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Judi,
Try filling out this contact form on the UK website, I think they would then 
call you.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ap/signin?_encoding=UTF8_handle=anywhere_v2_uk_id=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select=checkid_setup=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fextensions%2Fpape%2F1.0_auth_age=0_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Faw%2Fpsi.html%3Fie%3DUTF8%26cartID%3D261-0240397-2520054%26destinationURL%3D%252Fgp%252Faw%252Fcontact-us%252Fphone%26packedQuery%3Dref_%257Caw_cu_landing=anywhere_uk=%3Fie%3DUTF8%26destinationURL%3D%252Fgp%252Faw%252Fcontact-us%252Fphone%26ref%255F%3Daw%255Fcu%255Flanding



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On Jan 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Judy Pryor 
mailto:judypry...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am in the UK Richard the emails between Amazon and I have been going on for 
quite a while with no results.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Jan 2019, at 18:18, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just discovered that too.
You can do it through the web, but not through their app.
I'd suggest calling Amazon customer service for people with disabilities at: 
888-283-1678
And tell them about this and perhaps they can assist with the order.
I just had to finish an order with my computer through their web site.

Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Judy 
Pryor
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unable to buy anything on Amazon using iPhone

For quite a while now I have been unable to buy anything from Amazon using my 
iPhone SE running the latest ios.  I can get as far as selecting an address and 
can go no further.  I then have to get my old Macbook and complete the purchase 
from there.  Its driving me crazy.  I have had several emails from Amazon 
saying I should sign out and delete all Cookies which I think I did. I cleared 
out the history on my iPhone or should i do something else.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Kind regards

Judy

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[goshawk on horseback]

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. 
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Angie Nutt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)






On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:


There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
need to do this for each comma.


Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:


  When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and 
don’t like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While 
I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.






  On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, 
other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where 
a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
  Regards,
  Sieghard
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
  I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, 
the $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
Audio Pizza:
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[goshawk on horseback]

same here, if it had come out when I got my first iPhone, I probably would 
have gone for it. unfortunately, by the time the time that the first version 
came out, I had got fairly used to the touch screen. I can see another 
application for this device however, that is as a sort of remote, if one is 
in a situation when one doesn't want to take one's phone out, but may want 
to access it, such as whilst on horseback for example.
so as I know you are in the UK, what price are you knocking it out for?

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.

I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a smart 
phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It could have 
gone that way I suppose.

When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if there 
had been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might have. 
But as things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread is 
about, nor for the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the smooth 
interaction or dare I say, sensual, feel of the screen under my fingers. I 
do use a bluetooth keyboard if I want to type for any length of time. It is 
QUERTY as since learning to type as a teenager that’s my preferred method of 
input.

All the best
Angie



> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm one 
> of the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end
> all of smart things.
> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging 
> senses, including touch.
>
> Thanks, R.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Angie Nutt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on
> with it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls
> and I would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an 
> actual phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers
> not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know 
> quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those
> who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get 
> my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>
>
>
>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
>> for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people
>> go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the 
>> iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I
>> understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever 
>> reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are
>> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
>> very smart people to work to come up with this incredible
>> way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype 
>> make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet
>> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
>> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here,
>> but I just don't get it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Russ Kiehne
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>
>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
>> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a
>> touch screen, on Audio Pizza:
>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

Sandy,
I am so sorry to hear you have Parkinson’s disease.  That is a whole different 
level of difficulty.  Any tremors make touch screens a royal pain to use 
because of not being able to reliably control the number of taps.
There are some settings under Accessibility to attempt to help with this.
If you have not tried them, you may want to look at Settings, General, 
Accessibility, Touch Accommodations.
There are several settings under there:
Hold duration, the duration you must touch the screen before a touch is 
recognized.
Ignore Repeat,  The duration in which multiple touches are treated as a single 
touch.
Tap Assistance, Enable tap assistance to allow any single finger gesture to 
perform a tap.  This one shows choices of use initial location or use final 
location.  I have not tried these with VoiceOver, but they may be of some help.

I’m an old time slate user too and would really miss being able to use it for 
quick notes or labels.

I’m glad the keyboard works for you.

Blessings,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I would like to offer a different perspective here. I have Parkinson’s Disease 
and, while it is not severe (and my docs do not think it  will be), I have come 
to appreciate just how much subtle motor control   It takes to use the iPhone 
touch screen. The one thing I  have had to give  up because of Parkinson’s that 
made me sad is using a slate and stylus, which is something I used to do daily 
with considerable speed and accuracy... in fact,that was the impetus that sent 
me to the neurologist. I also have occasional difficulty controlling how many 
times I tap something,be it the iPhone screen or my Victor when I enter the 
title of a book with that cockamainey texting system it uses.


I am using a Bluetooth keyboard to type this message which, as indicated by  
its length, presents no problem for me. It is the subtle control needed to 
punch dot 4 instead of 1 with a stylus, or to double tap on the phone that is 
challenging.Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Angie Nutt 
mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>> wrote:
That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice 

Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[goshawk on horseback]

telephone banking or credit card companies are generally the main things you 
need to do this for, and I can see this device being rather useful for that, if 
nothing else. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Angie Nutt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  Yes that’s another thing I’ve heard that people have trouble with: needing to 
type a number quickly in order to get where you need to be in a menu on a call. 
Not something I’ve needed to do as yet.



On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:19, Arlene  wrote:


When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Angie Nutt
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.






On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, 
but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, 
other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where 
a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sandy Finley]

I would like to offer a different perspective here. I have Parkinson’s Disease 
and, while it is not severe (and my docs do not think it  will be), I have come 
to appreciate just how much subtle motor control   It takes to use the iPhone 
touch screen. The one thing I  have had to give  up because of Parkinson’s that 
made me sad is using a slate and stylus, which is something I used to do daily 
with considerable speed and accuracy... in fact,that was the impetus that sent 
me to the neurologist. I also have occasional difficulty controlling how many 
times I tap something,be it the iPhone screen or my Victor when I enter the 
title of a book with that cockamainey texting system it uses. 


I am using a Bluetooth keyboard to type this message which, as indicated by  
its length, presents no problem for me. It is the subtle control needed to 
punch dot 4 instead of 1 with a stylus, or to double tap on the phone that is 
challenging.Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
>> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
>> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
>> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s 
>> phone system answers.
>> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
>> put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
>> number:
>> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
>> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
>> need to do this for each comma.
>> 
>> Sentfrom my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
>>> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
>>> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
>>> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Angie Nutt
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I 
>>> just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
 for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how 
 much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
 matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
 cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
 they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
 lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
 make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
 typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
 they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
 possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Russ 
 Kiehne
 Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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 $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
 Audio Pizza:
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

Rob,
IN my opinion, the beauty of the iPhone's touch screen and VoiceOver is that 
you don't really have to have a good sense of touch.  VoiceOver will tell you 
when you touch the screen.
IN fact, the touch screen is so sensitive, that you barely have to make contact 
before you hear what you have touched.
I've worked with people with pretty severe nneuropathy, who have been able to 
use the iPhone just fine.

But, there are multiple Bluetooth keyboards out there that have very distinct 
keys so if someone can use a keyboard, they can use one of those with the 
iphone and spend only $30 or so.  You can spend a lot more, but it isn't 
necessary unless you want a high end foldable keyboard, but they are not going 
to have as good a keyboard because the keys will be more flattened to allow for 
the folding.

For those who just want the push button concept like what this $299 device 
offers, that is great and they should spend the money.
Or, not bother with a smart phone and stick with the push button variety.

Richard
  
Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm one of the 
unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end all of smart things.
But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging senses, 
including touch.

Thanks, R.

- Original Message -
From: "Angie Nutt" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on 
with it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls 
and I would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual 
phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers 
not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite 
a few who really loved their original RIVo and those 
who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my 
head round it; it just isn’t for me.



> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people 
> go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone 
> or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I 
> understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason 
> can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible 
> way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype 
> make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet 
> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
> but I just don't get it.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a 
> touch screen, on Audio Pizza:
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RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Richard Turner]

Angie,
Actually, the beauty of doing this is that you only have to do it once and then 
each time you call that contact, you don’t have to touch the screen at all.

This works great for conference calls when you have to call into a particular  
number, enter an access code, etc.
Or banks, or whatever.
Also, if you have a landline that you can call to get voice mails, etc.  At my 
work, there is a number I can call, then put in my desk phone number, then my 4 
digit pin followed by the number sign to check voice mails.  It is fabulous to 
be able to do that just by selecting that contact, which I have as one of my 
favorites so it takes maybe three or four taps on the screen and I’m accessing 
my voice mail.

Yes, it is a bit of a pain to set up the first time, but it is a heck of a lot 
easier than having to dial the numbers, even if you have a push button 
secondary phone.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)




On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.




On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
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Re: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

That's also exactly what i've done

Linda

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:48 AM
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular



Hello Chris,

Like me, you could get a series 4 with cellular and simply not activate 
the cellular feature until you have a need to do so.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chris Chaffin

Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular

Hello all,

I am looking to get an Apple Watch Series 4, my dilemma is whether to get 
the WI-FI or Cellular model.
My main question is how is the battery life with the cellular model?  I am 
thinking that the battery life with the cellular model might be less, but 
I do not know how true this might be.


Any help with this would be appreciated.

Chris

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)



> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone 
> system answers.
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
> in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
> to do this for each comma.
> 
> Sentfrom my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  > wrote:
> 
>> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
>> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
>> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
>> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Angie Nutt 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just 
>> couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
>>> for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
>>> money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
>>> matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
>>> cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
>>> they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
>>> lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
>>> make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
>>> typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
>>> they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
>>> possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
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>>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

Yes that’s another thing I’ve heard that people have trouble with: needing to 
type a number quickly in order to get where you need to be in a menu on a call. 
Not something I’ve needed to do as yet.

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:19, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
> to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Angie Nutt 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just 
>> couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
>>> for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
>>> money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
>>> matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
>>> cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
>>> they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
>>> lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
>>> make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
>>> typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
>>> they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
>>> possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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>>> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

Yes we do sell RIVo 2, also sold the original.

I don’t think the touch screen is the be all and end all either as a smart 
phone etc could  obviously be made with or without buttons. It could have gone 
that way I suppose.

When I started with iPhone there was nothing out there to help me; if there had 
been I wonder if I’d have taken advantage of it. I suspect I might have. But as 
things are I have no desire for the sort of thing this thread is about, nor for 
the Speed Dots as I feel they would take away the smooth interaction or dare I 
say, sensual, feel of the screen under my fingers. I do use a bluetooth 
keyboard if I want to type for any length of time. It is QUERTY as since 
learning to type as a teenager that’s my preferred method of input.

All the best
Angie



> On 4 Jan 2019, at 10:06, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm one of 
> the unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end 
> all of smart things.
> But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging senses, 
> including touch.
> 
> Thanks, R.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Angie Nutt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
> the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on 
> with it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
> appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls 
> and I would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual 
> phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers 
> not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know 
> quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those 
> who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my 
> head round it; it just isn’t for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
>> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people 
>> go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone 
>> or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I 
>> understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever 
>> reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
>> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
>> smart people to work to come up with this incredible 
>> way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype 
>> make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet 
>> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
>> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
>> but I just don't get it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
>> Kiehne
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>> 
>> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
>> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a 
>> touch screen, on Audio Pizza:
>> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp 
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Russ Kiehne]

I see on the victor reader stream list that many users won’t use a touch 
screen device.  They want buttons.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I didn’t listen that far in the podcast, but I suspect that might be so, or it 
uses some variation on braille, but frankly, I think it is a bit silly, unless 
it does meet a specific need of someone with a particular disability, but to 
plug it as a way to use the iPhone without the touch screen is very misleading.

I can already do that with a Bluetooth keyboard or a braille device like the 
Orbit Reader 20.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

And how would you say write a text message or email with 20 buttons? Please 
don't tell me it uses the old T9 method where you have to press the number 2 
three times for the letter C etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

I agree Sieghard,

This won’t help you if you are a quadriplegic, etc.  It is a modified Bluetooth 
keyboard with 20 buttons and you have to learn their system of button 
combinations to accomplish what you want.  It does offer a micro and speaker so 
the sound is coming out of the little keyboardish device.

But, if you have some finger dexterity but not enough to use a standard 
Bluetooth keyboard, I guess there might be some uses for this.  It must be 
targeting a small market given that the price is rather high.

 

Just my two cents worth, and it didn’t cost you anything, grin.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the $299 
add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
Pizza:
http://bit.ly/2LMApbp
 

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Activating walkie-talkie

[Ann Byrne]

Trying to set up walkie-talkie, I can get as far as adding friends 
from contacts on my iPhone, but the contacts list isn't talking to my 
watch.  Can someone please give me step-by-step instructions on how 
to make this application work?


Thanks,

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Re: need the direct link to for a new password on my apple id

[Ryan Mann]

The site you go to change your Apple ID password is:
Http://appleid.apple.com


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 11:42 PM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> I'm in the process of confirming that my straight talk se is unlocked, and 
> for one thing I need to change my password on the apple id that I set that 
> phone up with.  I went on the apple site, but I can't  find a link to do 
> this, and I know it's been given here before, So if someone could sent the 
> link to go  into my apple id to change my password, that would behelpful. 
> Also if anyone has had experience with unlocking a straight talk phone. On 
> december 19th, I called to request the unlocking, and the customer service 
> person said that she would be sending an email with instructions as we 
> understood. I never received an email, so we're on the phone with straight 
> talk and I'm still waiting to get to the unlock department. Instead I was 
> talking with the regular customer service. I'm trying to confirm fron the 
> phone itself that it's unlocked and the regular customer service said it was, 
> but I was just trying to confirm that. I finally got to the unlock department 
> and the guy was saying something about putting the straight talk sim card 
> from my phone into my phone to varify that it was unlocked but some how that 
> wasn't making any sense so if anyone has had experience with unlocking a 
> straighttalk phone that would really help right now. Thank you.
>  
> ARlene
>  
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Ryan Mann]

While you are on the phone, you can press the Home button.  Then you can go 
into the Messages app or whatever app you want o check.  The only thing is that 
you can’t tell SIRI to open an app while you are on the phone.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm with you, Seigard. Once you get the hang of the touch screen and realize 
> that it is a touch screen, not a bang screen, it does pretty much what it 
> says it will do. For me, most of it has been just learning what I really 
> needed to do. For instance, I get annoyed by notifications, tried to cut them 
> back. I was using the phone today, and it started about a voice mail that I 
> was well aware of, and I heard it say something about tap or double tap, 
> can't remember, but I did, and it shut the thing up, so that I could be in 
> control and tend to the voice mail on my terms when I wanted to. 
> 
> The other day, my daughter-in-law wanted me to hear a message that she 
> forwarded me. I said I did not know how to do that while in conversation with 
> someone, so she asked me to hang up, check it, then call her with my opinion, 
> which I did. I am sure there is a way to do that. Do any of you ever do that, 
> while talking check other things on the phone, and how, please? 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
> they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
> advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
> person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
> devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
> with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
> to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something 
> here, but I just don't get it.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
> Audio Pizza:
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Ryan Mann]

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
> to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
> 
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
> the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
> are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but 
> I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring 
> to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I 
> also know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have 
> the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head 
> round it; it just isn’t for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
>> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
>> money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
>> matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
>> cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they 
>> are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of 
>> very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make 
>> touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing 
>> very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are 
>> better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I 
>> miss something here, but I just don't get  it.
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
>> Kiehne
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
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Re: Accessible bluetooth microwave

[Kay Malmquist]

The Amazon Basics is 700 watts.  The G E is 900 watts and that is the one 
that I currently have.  Yes, it is a bit shy on wattage and I was worried 
about that, but all and all, it does a good job.  The last microwave we had 
was 1200 watts.  We set this new one up with no help and have as of yet to 
label it.   I will do this soon, but you can use it with no trouble with 
Alexa.  The model is:
GE Microwave - JES1097SMSS



Hope this helps.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible bluetooth microwave


The bad thing about that connected microwave and it's not an insignificant 
one is that it's something like only 750 wats. For heating up things, 
passable, but not much beyond that. If you want a well performing microwave 
that you can also cook in or at least reheat evenly, you need at least 1000 
wats.
Wattage
Microwave wattage equals power. In general, the higher the wattage, the 
faster and more evenly your food will cook. Most microwaves sit somewhere 
between 600-1,200 watts. Larger, more expensive microwaves tend to have a 
higher wattage, so this is a price and size consideration that can strongly 
influence microwave cooking performance.
https://www.cnet.com/topics/microwaves/buying-guide/
I recently bought a Panasonic model with 1250 wats which is really strong. I 
was blowing things up until I got the feel for it. It's not connected in any 
way, but has tactile buttons which is a huge help and was what I was looking 
for instead of a smooth panel. It's 2.2 cubic feet. It's a beast and takes 
up a lot of counterspace, but I have a big kitchen so that was no big deal.
Anyway, other than that Alexa microwave that recently came out, I'm not 
really aware of any sort of other connected microwaves. I do have a 
Bluetooth kitchen scale that I use all the time and I believe that the same 
company also has other connected devices, but no microwave. 
https://getdrop.com/appliances/
Looks like wifi connected ovens and multipurpose devices, but no microwave. 
I'm not in need of replacing my oven, but if I were looking for one, I might 
even be interested in looking into it since the iOS app is pretty accessible 
for the scale anyway.
Good luck.
Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible bluetooth microwave

We just bought a GE microwave that can be controlled by Alexa.  It is 
wondrously hands-free, although there are buttons behind one of those lovely 
flat plastic panels if you want to find and press them.
  At 07:10 PM 1/3/2019, you wrote:


>Sent from my iPhoneHello everyone,
>
>I was wondering, are there any accessible, bluetooth inabled microwaves
>out there, that have user-friendly Apps?
>I need to replace my microwave, and I would like to get 1 that I
>donâ?Tt necessarily have to worry about labeling.
>
>Any help is much appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Terri
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Re: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular

[Kay Malmquist]

Okay, this explains why I thought you could have both.  I would definitely 
want cellular capabilities.  Thanks.

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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular


Hello Kay,

All of the series 4 watches have WiFi.  The second model of the series also 
includes a cellular feature.  It's the same with iPads.

The cellular models cost a bit more.

As I wrote in a previous post, one can get the cellular model but choose not 
to enable the cellular feature.

Mark

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Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular

I am not trying to hijack this subject, but I thought you could get one with 
both.  Am I wrong?

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: "Anna Dresner" 
To: "VIPhone Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Series 4, WI-FI vs Cellular


Hi Chris,

I have a series 3 cellular watch, and my battery life seems to be comparable
to those with Wi-Fi only watches. I think this is because the watch only
uses LTE when a Wi-Fi or phone connection isn't available.

Best,
Anna




> On Jan 3, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:
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> Hello all,
>
> I am looking to get an Apple Watch Series 4, my dilemma is whether to get
> the WI-FI or Cellular model.
> My main question is how is the battery life with the cellular model?  I am
> thinking that the battery life with the cellular model might be less, but
> I do not know how true this might be.
>
> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>
> Chris
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Arlene]

When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
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  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


  In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.






On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much 
money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, 
other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where 
a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
but I just don't get it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
$299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on Audio 
Pizza:
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I shouldn't ask probably, but does CRS sell anything like this?  I'm one of the 
unconvinced that touch screen is the b all and end 
all of smart things.
But a kb has to be quite tactile,  and that is the more so with aging senses, 
including touch.

Thanks, R.

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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on 
with it. While I personally use the touch screen most of the time I can 
appreciate why buttons are useful as in making phone calls 
and I would probably find it quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual 
phone that often. I am of course referring to numbers 
not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also know quite 
a few who really loved their original RIVo and those 
who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my 
head round it; it just isn’t for me.



> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people 
> go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone 
> or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I 
> understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason 
> can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible 
> way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype 
> make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet 
> some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that 
> screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, 
> but I just don't get it.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a 
> touch screen, on Audio Pizza:
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Angie Nutt]

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me.



> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
> they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other 
> advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a 
> person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are 
> quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very 
> smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen 
> devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient 
> with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying 
> to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something 
> here, but I just don't get it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
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