Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

Believe you need to be using the Beta of iOS 15 to get the options in 
settings. You won't be able to enjoy Spatial Audio until you toggle it 
on for Video, Audio or Both. The default is set too off.



I was running iOS 14.7.1 too and experienced what you are currently. 
Install the beta and all Spatial Audio settings will be available. Trust me.



On 8/19/2021 7:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


In Settings -> Accessibility -> Airpods, under Spatial Audio, I have 
Follow iPhone set to off. I had this on before spatial audio showed 
up, and I didn’t like it.


Under Setting -> Accessibility -> Audio/Visual I had Headphone 
Accommodations turned off. I toggled this on, and I see a number of 
options, but nothing related to spatial audio.


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Did you set the options for it under Settings/Accessibility/Airpods? I 
set mines to both video and audio. The default is off. Think you need 
to set that option for the toggle in the Control Panel to 
disable/enable Spatial Audio.


On 8/19/2021 7:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can
triple tap on the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of
them being to toggle spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on
for something in the Podcast player or Netflix, I don’t hear any
difference in the audio. The Netflix show I watched was kind of
old, so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all yet or
just not for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic
Quest from Apple TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference
when I turned on spacial audio, but it wasn’t a life changing
experience. I’ll keep playing with it, and I’m looking forward to
hearing more examples of this in Netflix and with IOS 15. I’m also
glad I found out about bringing this option up from the volume
slider in the control center, so thanks to Richard and the list
for pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying to correct any
information with this post. I’m just pointing out my own limited
experiences so far!

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iPhone and iPad

You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option
in Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.

You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the
Volume slider control That will launch a hidden menu in which
"Enable Spatial Audio" can be toggled on or off from there too. It
works on all audio playing on any app through your Airpods.

It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles
vs. Pats preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM
subscription. Talk about feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!

On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix
spacial audio thing. They say it is rolling out slowly, and
the toggle to turn on spacial audio for Netflix will be found
in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that
 menu that richard’s been talking about. They just say it’s a
toggle on or off, not a menu. So I guess if you don’t see it
in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your version
of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone




On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner

 wrote:

 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial
audio to get that menu.

I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.

Before, I was using the Airpods Max.

So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.

Richard

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small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Anthony Vece]

I agree.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Annoying but hardly a deal-breaker.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
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> 
> 
>> 
>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating 
>> & didn't even notice the problem.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
>> fix it next go round of updates.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Annoying but hardly a deal-breaker.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: August 19, 2021 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger


> 
> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating & 
> didn't even notice the problem.

Donna

>  Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
> fix it next go round of updates.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
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RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to write the individual app developers as they are the ones who have 
to make sure their apps are compatible with the version of iOS they say works. 
If Audible says it runs on iOS 11 and above and it does not work correctly on 
iOS 13 then Audible has to fix it and not Apple.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: August 18, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

You  are running 14.7.1. There is no problem with that version, it is those 
earlier than 14. I had just reset network settings over the weekend, I just did 
it again, just to be sure, with the same results. Remember, it is not just 
Audible, it is four apps over the last two days. I don't remember what two of 
them were, I deleted them. The fourth one, Shazam, will still work with the 
version that was on my phone, but it will not update. I probably will write 
Apple Support later today. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:51 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

According to the app store, the audible app is supported on devices running 
IOS 11 & newer. Have you tried resetting network settings & try downloading 
audible again? I don't use audible much, so I just deleted the app & 
reinstalled without any problem.

Donna iPhone 11 with IOS 14.7.1
> 
> You should report it to Audible support because the more people who say 
> there is an issue themore likely it is Audible will fix this for older iOS 
> versions.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: August 18, 2021 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:
> 
> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping it 
> updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x 
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
> 
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently installed 
> version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
> 
> 
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
> 
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should 
> not show in my updates list.
> 
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
> 
> Mark
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Re: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

[brian albriton]

Thanks for the tip I’m moving to the home screen and back to the app. Also the 
change in settings that has fixed it thanks a bunch

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> Below is a post I made to the idevi...@groups.io list on 8/10/21 providing a 
> workaround correction to this issue:
> 
> Abbie,
> 
> The reduced Voiceover volume in the Alexa app started a few upgrades ago. To 
> get Voiceover back, press the Home button on your SE 2020 to jump to your 
> home screen and then return to the Alexa app using the App Switcher. 
> Voiceover should be working correctly when you return. Then, do the following:
> 
> 1.In the bottom right corner of the screen, execute the More button which 
> is button 5 of 5 on the bottomline tool bar.
> 2.Swipe right on the screen that opens to Settings and double tap.
> 3.Swipe right on the screen that opens to Alexa app settings and double 
> tap.
> 4.Swipe to Enable Alexa hands free and make sure it is turned on.
> 
> After doing this, the next time you open the Alexa app, Voiceover should 
> again be working at the correct volume level. At least it did for me after I 
> did this.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Lately, when I open Amazon Alexa, it goes to earpiece   Has anybody else seen 
> this happen?
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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

Ah true! Like I said, I heard a difference when listening to Mythic Quest on 
Apple TV Plus, and although it was definitely noticeable, it wasn’t as drastic 
as I was expecting, based on the hype I’ve seen about this feature. It could 
just be me or what I was listening to, but like I said, I plan to keep 
experimenting!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

I don't look for life changing eventss on my iPhone.
But, the sound is very much improved.
At least to my ears. Sound is so very subjective 


Richard
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On Aug 19, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can triple tap on 
the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of them being to toggle 
spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on for something in the Podcast 
player or Netflix, I don’t hear any difference in the audio. The Netflix show I 
watched was kind of old, so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all 
yet or just not for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic Quest 
from Apple TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference when I turned on 
spacial audio, but it wasn’t a life changing experience. I’ll keep playing with 
it, and I’m looking forward to hearing more examples of this in Netflix and 
with IOS 15. I’m also glad I found out about bringing this option up from the 
volume slider in the control center, so thanks to Richard and the list for 
pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying to correct any information with 
this post. I’m just pointing out my own limited experiences so far!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kenneth Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.



You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the Volume slider 
control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable Spatial Audio" can be 
toggled on or off from there too. It works on all audio playing on any app 
through your Airpods.



It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. Pats 
preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM subscription. Talk about 
feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!




On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
 wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio 

RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

In Settings -> Accessibility -> Airpods, under Spatial Audio, I have Follow 
iPhone set to off. I had this on before spatial audio showed up, and I didn’t 
like it.

Under Setting -> Accessibility -> Audio/Visual I had Headphone Accommodations 
turned off. I toggled this on, and I see a number of options, but nothing 
related to spatial audio.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


Did you set the options for it under Settings/Accessibility/Airpods? I set 
mines to both video and audio. The default is off. Think you need to set that 
option for the toggle in the Control Panel to disable/enable Spatial Audio.


On 8/19/2021 7:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can triple tap on 
the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of them being to toggle 
spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on for something in the Podcast 
player or Netflix, I don’t hear any difference in the audio. The Netflix show I 
watched was kind of old, so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all 
yet or just not for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic Quest 
from Apple TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference when I turned on 
spacial audio, but it wasn’t a life changing experience. I’ll keep playing with 
it, and I’m looking forward to hearing more examples of this in Netflix and 
with IOS 15. I’m also glad I found out about bringing this option up from the 
volume slider in the control center, so thanks to Richard and the list for 
pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying to correct any information with 
this post. I’m just pointing out my own limited experiences so far!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Kenneth Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.



You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the Volume slider 
control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable Spatial Audio" can be 
toggled on or off from there too. It works on all audio playing on any app 
through your Airpods.



It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. Pats 
preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM subscription. Talk about 
feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!




On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
 wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that sa

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

I don't look for life changing eventss on my iPhone.
But, the sound is very much improved.
At least to my ears. Sound is so very subjective 



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 19, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can triple tap on 
the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of them being to toggle 
spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on for something in the Podcast 
player or Netflix, I don’t hear any difference in the audio. The Netflix show I 
watched was kind of old, so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all 
yet or just not for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic Quest 
from Apple TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference when I turned on 
spacial audio, but it wasn’t a life changing experience. I’ll keep playing with 
it, and I’m looking forward to hearing more examples of this in Netflix and 
with IOS 15. I’m also glad I found out about bringing this option up from the 
volume slider in the control center, so thanks to Richard and the list for 
pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying to correct any information with 
this post. I’m just pointing out my own limited experiences so far!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.



You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the Volume slider 
control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable Spatial Audio" can be 
toggled on or off from there too. It works on all audio playing on any app 
through your Airpods.



It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. Pats 
preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM subscription. Talk about 
feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!




On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
 wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:






 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
"Great minds di

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

Did you set the options for it under Settings/Accessibility/Airpods? I 
set mines to both video and audio. The default is off. Think you need to 
set that option for the toggle in the Control Panel to disable/enable 
Spatial Audio.



On 8/19/2021 7:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can 
triple tap on the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of them 
being to toggle spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on for 
something in the Podcast player or Netflix, I don’t hear any 
difference in the audio. The Netflix show I watched was kind of old, 
so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all yet or just not 
for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic Quest from Apple 
TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference when I turned on spacial 
audio, but it wasn’t a life changing experience. I’ll keep playing 
with it, and I’m looking forward to hearing more examples of this in 
Netflix and with IOS 15. I’m also glad I found out about bringing this 
option up from the volume slider in the control center, so thanks to 
Richard and the list for pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying 
to correct any information with this post. I’m just pointing out my 
own limited experiences so far!


--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Kenneth Washington

*Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:12 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone 
and iPad


You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.


You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the 
Volume slider control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable 
Spatial Audio" can be toggled on or off from there too. It works on 
all audio playing on any app through your Airpods.


It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. 
Pats preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM 
subscription. Talk about feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!


On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial
audio thing. They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to
turn on spacial audio for Netflix will be found in the control
center they say. I’ve seen that in several articles now, and it is
apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s been
talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu.
So I guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t
rolled out to your version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner

 wrote:

 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial
audio to get that menu.

I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.

Before, I was using the Airpods Max.

So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events,
small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com





On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten
  wrote:



Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is
not running the beta. I triple tapped on volume with one
finger, and I did not see any sort of menu. Now I was not
using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them
to access this menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner

 wrote:

 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under
the Spatial Audio heading you have a choice of having
spatial audio off, only video, or audio and video I
think.

anyway, the explanitory message below that says:







 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for
supported audio and video content will adjust based on
your head movement. You can control spatial audio in
Control Center by touching and holding the volume
slid

RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[M. Taylor]

Hi Everyone,

I am delighted to report the following:  

About an hour or so, ago, I noticed that the Audible listing in the app store 
had been updated to state that the latest version requires iOS 14 or higher.  I 
also noticed that the size of the download file has increased by a third.  

I took this as a good sign.

So, I then selected the re-download option as I had done countless times during 
the past 24-hours (smile) and, after being told that iOS 14 was required to run 
the latest version, to my delight, I was prompted to download an older version 
of the app.  I said "OK" to the prompt and version 5.40 of Audible was 
successfully installed on my beloved iPhone 8 Plus running iOS 13.7.

A little while ago, I received another email from Audible stating that they had 
contacted Apple and that the problem had been resolved and that I should go 
ahead and attempt to re-download the app.

According to Audible, the problem had something to do with Apple but, whatever 
the case, it has been resolved.

On an iTunes for Windows 7 note:  I successfully installed iTunes 12.10.11.2 on 
my PC.  After having done so, I made my first iTunes backup of my phone in over 
a year as it had been that long since the backup feature had failed in iTunes 
12.6.  Of course, I have iCloud backups of all of my devices but I much prefer 
a encrypted computer backup to iCloud, if given a choice.

Finally, a happy ending (big smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

Hello All,

Okay, I received a reply from Audible this morning that is of absolutely no 
help.  According to them, the latest version of the app will only work with iOS 
14 or later.

Yes, as we have discovered, the app does show up in the app store of iOS13.  
And, when you read the description of the app, it clearly states that the app 
is compatible with iOS 11 or higher.

I will now paste in part of the message I received from Audible.

[BEGIN MESSAGE]:
Hello Mark,

The current version of the Audible app for iOS is 3.54 and requires iOS version 
14 or higher, or watchOS 7 or later. Users on older OS versions will not see 
this update available in the App Store.

Thank you for contacting Audible!

The current version of the Audible for iOS (v3.54) requires an OS version of 14 
or higher, or a watchOS of 7 or later. As I understand from the information 
provided your iOS device is currently running iOS 13.7.

While an older version of the Audible for iOS app will remain available to you 
in the App Store, to see any further updated versions, you will need to update 
your device to iOS 14. Please also keep in mind that while we will continue to 
support you with troubleshooting steps, new features and fixes may not be 
available to you and any troubleshooting of older app versions may be limited.

Thank you again for your continued patience. Stay safe. 
[END MESSAGE]:

So, after receiving this message I immediately contacted iTunes support and 
spoke, at length with a senior advisor.  She assures me that they only have 1 
(one) version of the app on the store and that the app is the latest version, 
only.

I asked her what would happen if a person running iOS 13.7 attempted to 
download the Audible app, for the very first time.  That seemed to stump her; 
she said that she did not know; that a device, downloading the app fir the very 
first time, may, in fact, have access to the earlier version of the app.  
Regardless, it does not apply to me because they cannot remove the app from my 
list of purchases.

So, a few minutes ago, just as an afterthought, I searched the web for a 32-bit 
version of the latest versions of iTunes for Windows.  You may recall that a 
while back, when I searched, I could not find any Apple supported version of 
iTunes for Windows 7 or 8, 32-bit.

Well, believe it or not, as of December 7, 2020, they have made a 32-bit of 
iTunes 12.10.11.2 available for download.  I was stunned.

Later this weekend, I will attempt to install this version of iTunes onto my PC 
and, if successful, then I will update my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.

Wish me luck.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

Hello Everyone,

First, let me thank all of you for the wonderful feedback on this issue.

Rather than cluttering up the list by replying to each post, individually, I 
will write a general reply here:

1.
This audible problem appears to happen with versions of iOS earlier than 14.x

2.
The info in the app store clearly states that the latest release, v3.54 should 
work with all versions of iOS 11 or higher.

3.
The issue is not the downloa

RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

OK, I’m running IOS 14.7.1, and when I use my Airpod Pros, I can triple tap on 
the volume slider to bring up a few options, one of them being to toggle 
spacial audio on and off. When I toggle it on for something in the Podcast 
player or Netflix, I don’t hear any difference in the audio. The Netflix show I 
watched was kind of old, so I don’t know if it hasn’t been rolled out at all 
yet or just not for the show I was watching. When I brought up Mythic Quest 
from Apple TV Plus, I could definitely hear a difference when I turned on 
spacial audio, but it wasn’t a life changing experience. I’ll keep playing with 
it, and I’m looking forward to hearing more examples of this in Netflix and 
with IOS 15. I’m also glad I found out about bringing this option up from the 
volume slider in the control center, so thanks to Richard and the list for 
pointing this out. Note that I’m not trying to correct any information with 
this post. I’m just pointing out my own limited experiences so far!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.



You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the Volume slider 
control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable Spatial Audio" can be 
toggled on or off from there too. It works on all audio playing on any app 
through your Airpods.



It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. Pats 
preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM subscription. Talk about 
feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!




On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
 wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:






 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

OK, I couldn’t help myself, but we probably should drop the part of this thread 
that gets into what is included with the beta of iOS 15.

Sorry I went down that path.





Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Yes, I’m rather impressed with the way the spatial audio gives you a completely 
immersive  experience.
and with this new added toggle to apply something like it to regular stereo 
material is excellent.

Now, I really wish the makers of the Zombie shooting game, Rubber Ducky had 
been able to continue its development.  It would be even more amazing now with 
the Airpods Max and this spatial effect.

That game was great because you had to physically spin around which made it a 
great exercise routine as well.

Later,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kenneth Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Christopher 
Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


It's not just for Netflix. It works on all audio playing through your Airpods. 
Music, podcast, live radio, movies etc...



You have to toggle it on from within the iOS Control Panel. Simply triple tap 
on the volume control slider to access it.



Must be running iOS Beta 15.



Does sound more emercive when listing too Dolby Atmos audio content.



It's sort of scary. Feels like your in the center of the movie with sounds 
coming from all directions. Unbelievable technology.



On 8/19/2021 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Which is what spawned my first question on this. I don’t have any app settings 
in my control center, so unless I’m missing something, I’m not seeing how 
Netflix is going to get something in the control center to turn on and off a 
feature just for Netflix. I still need to play with it, and I’m still on IOS 
14.7.1, but I suspect Richard is right.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Access

RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I’m rather impressed with the way the spatial audio gives you a completely 
immersive  experience.
and with this new added toggle to apply something like it to regular stereo 
material is excellent.

Now, I really wish the makers of the Zombie shooting game, Rubber Ducky had 
been able to continue its development.  It would be even more amazing now with 
the Airpods Max and this spatial effect.

That game was great because you had to physically spin around which made it a 
great exercise routine as well.

Later,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Christopher Chaltain 
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


It's not just for Netflix. It works on all audio playing through your Airpods. 
Music, podcast, live radio, movies etc...



You have to toggle it on from within the iOS Control Panel. Simply triple tap 
on the volume control slider to access it.



Must be running iOS Beta 15.



Does sound more emercive when listing too Dolby Atmos audio content.



It's sort of scary. Feels like your in the center of the movie with sounds 
coming from all directions. Unbelievable technology.



On 8/19/2021 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Which is what spawned my first question on this. I don’t have any app settings 
in my control center, so unless I’m missing something, I’m not seeing how 
Netflix is going to get something in the control center to turn on and off a 
feature just for Netflix. I still need to play with it, and I’m still on IOS 
14.7.1, but I suspect Richard is right.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:









 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

It's not just for Netflix. It works on all audio playing through your 
Airpods. Music, podcast, live radio, movies etc...



You have to toggle it on from within the iOS Control Panel. Simply 
triple tap on the volume control slider to access it.



Must be running iOS Beta 15.


Does sound more emercive when listing too Dolby Atmos audio content.


It's sort of scary. Feels like your in the center of the movie with 
sounds coming from all directions. Unbelievable technology.



On 8/19/2021 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

Which is what spawned my first question on this. I don’t have any app 
settings in my control center, so unless I’m missing something, I’m 
not seeing how Netflix is going to get something in the control center 
to turn on and off a feature just for Netflix. I still need to play 
with it, and I’m still on IOS 14.7.1, but I suspect Richard is right.


--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Mary Otten

*Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:04 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone 
and iPad


I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial 
audio thing. They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn 
on spacial audio for Netflix will be found in the control center they 
say. I’ve seen that in several articles now, and it is apparently not 
talking about that  menu that richard’s been talking about. They just 
say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I guess if you don’t see 
it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your version of 
Netflix yet.


Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
wrote:

 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio
to get that menu.

I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.

Before, I was using the Airpods Max.

So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small
minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com 



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not
running the beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger,
and I did not see any sort of menu. Now I was not using my
AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said AirPods Max. So
perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this
menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the
Spatial Audio heading you have a choice of having spatial
audio off, only video, or audio and video I think.

anyway, the explanitory message below that says:







 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for
supported audio and video content will adjust based on
your head movement. You can control spatial audio in
Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider,
then tapping Spatial Audio.

Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control
center and you find a whole new menu of options for
spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that experience
even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.

I like it.

I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta
features but I do not have a device running 14.7 to double
check; 



Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events,
small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com 



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial
audio overall, which within be referring to the
control center on the iPhone. I guess.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:



Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s
meant by “The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is
located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think
Netflix had anything called the control center,
and I thought you configured it in the Bluetooth
settings for your Airpod Pros.

   

Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Donna Casteen]

> 
> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating & 
> didn't even notice the problem.

Donna

>  Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
> fix it next go round of updates.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

You need to be using iOS Beta 15 to see the Spatial Audio option in 
Settings/Accessibility/Airpods...towards the bottom of the page.



You can also bring up the iOS Control Panel and triple tap on the Volume 
slider control That will launch a hidden menu in which "Enable Spatial 
Audio" can be toggled on or off from there too. It works on all audio 
playing on any app through your Airpods.



It works great and I plan on using it when listening to my Eagles vs. 
Pats preseason game on my iPhone 8 tonight. Have a SiriusXM 
subscription. Talk about feeling like I'm on the field. Should be fun!




On 8/19/2021 3:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial 
audio thing. They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn 
on spacial audio for Netflix will be found in the control center they 
say. I’ve seen that in several articles now, and it is apparently not 
talking about that  menu that richard’s been talking about. They just 
say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I guess if you don’t see 
it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your version of 
Netflix yet.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to 
get that menu.

I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas,average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not 
running the beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I 
did not see any sort of menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or 
HomePods max. I should’ve said AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually 
have to be using them to access this menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial 
Audio heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only 
video, or audio and video I think.

anyway, the explanitory message below that says:



 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio 
and video content will adjust based on your head movement. You can 
control spatial audio in Control Center by touching and holding the 
volume slider, then tapping Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and 
you find a whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it 
tries to provide that experience even with recordings that are not 
in spatial audio.

I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features 
but I do not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas,average minds discuss events, small 
minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, 
which within be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I 
guess.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:




Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The 
toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control 
Center.” I didn’t think Netflix had anything called the control 
center, and I thought you configured it in the Bluetooth settings 
for your Airpod Pros.


--

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Chaltain at Outlook

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Mary Otten

*Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
*To:* via VIPhone 
*Subject:* Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on 
iPhone and iPad


Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to 
Netflix.


*Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad*

9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller



Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio 
support to its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an 
immersive experience using directional audio filters, and it has 
been a long time coming to Netflix users.


A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to /9to5Mac /that the 
company has started rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone 
and iPad on iOS 14. The news was first reported by users on 
Reddit 
 
as well as in a report from /iPhoneSoft/ 

Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[CHELA Robles]

Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
fix it next go round of updates.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Barbara Stahl]

> 
> Just out of curiosity, why can't you just update to ios 14 through the update 
> feature on your phone?  Also, do you use the cloud? If you don't want to 
> update maybe you could download or reinstall the older version of audible 
> from your cloud backup?  

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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

I just tried with my AirPods Max and this iPhone 10 r running 14.7.1. I don’t 
see anything in control center. I also did not get any kind of menu when I did 
a single finger triple tap on the volume control in control center. I got the 
three ascending tones and no menu. According to these articles I’ve been 
seeing, the new Netflix feature, when it rolls out to your phone, will be 
available in iOS 14, you don’t have to wait for the beta.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Which is what spawned my first question on this. I don’t have any app 
> settings in my control center, so unless I’m missing something, I’m not 
> seeing how Netflix is going to get something in the control center to turn on 
> and off a feature just for Netflix. I still need to play with it, and I’m 
> still on IOS 14.7.1, but I suspect Richard is right.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio 
> thing. They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial 
> audio for Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen 
> that in several articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  
> menu that richard’s been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or 
> off, not a menu. So I guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it 
> hasn’t rolled out to your version of Netflix yet.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
> menu.
> I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
> Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
> So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
> beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort 
> of menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
> AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this 
> menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
> heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio 
> and video I think.
> anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
> content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial 
> audio in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then 
> tapping Spatial Audio.
> Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
> whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
> experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
> I like it.
> I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
> not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 
> 
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
> be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
> managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
> Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured 
> it in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>  
> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
> iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
> directional audio filters, and it has been a long time comin

RE: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

[Alan Lemly]

Brian,

Below is a post I made to the idevi...@groups.io list on 8/10/21 providing a 
workaround correction to this issue:

Abbie,

The reduced Voiceover volume in the Alexa app started a few upgrades ago. To 
get Voiceover back, press the Home button on your SE 2020 to jump to your home 
screen and then return to the Alexa app using the App Switcher. Voiceover 
should be working correctly when you return. Then, do the following:

1.  In the bottom right corner of the screen, execute the More button which 
is button 5 of 5 on the bottomline tool bar.
2.  Swipe right on the screen that opens to Settings and double tap.
3.  Swipe right on the screen that opens to Alexa app settings and double 
tap.
4.  Swipe to Enable Alexa hands free and make sure it is turned on.

After doing this, the next time you open the Alexa app, Voiceover should again 
be working at the correct volume level. At least it did for me after I did this.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of brian 
albriton
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

Lately, when I open Amazon Alexa, it goes to earpiece   Has anybody else seen 
this happen?

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Re: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

[Donna Casteen]

Go into settings of the app & turn on hands free mode.

Donna

> 
> Lately, when I open Amazon Alexa, it goes to earpiece   Has anybody else 
> seen this happen?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

[Richard Turner]

Keith,
I have not done much with unzipping in the files app.  Sorry.



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On Aug 19, 2021, at 1:00 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

thanks for the suggestion, Richard. Unfortunately, that didn’t work.

you are correct, though,. This document is a downloaded zip file, but I tried 
to uncompress from within the files app. I ran into a problem but was able to 
eventually open it with the audio files automatically going to voice dream 
reader. Is there a solution to uncompressing and opening audio files from 
within a zip file in the files app? I haven’t figured that out either.

Thanks, Keith

On Aug 19, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.

HTH,



Richard
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Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

hi,

I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
unprotected MP3 audio files.

I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.

Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?

I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

thanks for the suggestion, Richard. Unfortunately, that didn’t work.

you are correct, though,. This document is a downloaded zip file, but I tried 
to uncompress from within the files app. I ran into a problem but was able to 
eventually open it with the audio files automatically going to voice dream 
reader. Is there a solution to uncompressing and opening audio files from 
within a zip file in the files app? I haven’t figured that out either.

Thanks, Keith

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
> individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
> flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks
> 
> hi,
> 
> I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
> unprotected MP3 audio files.
> 
> I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.
> 
> Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?
> 
> I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
> out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.
> 
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

Which is what spawned my first question on this. I don’t have any app settings 
in my control center, so unless I’m missing something, I’m not seeing how 
Netflix is going to get something in the control center to turn on and off a 
feature just for Netflix. I still need to play with it, and I’m still on IOS 
14.7.1, but I suspect Richard is right.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
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On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:






 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
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On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller



[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit

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RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Okay, I received a reply from Audible this morning that is of absolutely no 
help.  According to them, the latest version of the app will only work with iOS 
14 or later.

Yes, as we have discovered, the app does show up in the app store of iOS13.  
And, when you read the description of the app, it clearly states that the app 
is compatible with iOS 11 or higher.

I will now paste in part of the message I received from Audible.

[BEGIN MESSAGE]:
Hello Mark,

The current version of the Audible app for iOS is 3.54 and requires iOS version 
14 or higher, or watchOS 7 or later. Users on older OS versions will not see 
this update available in the App Store.

Thank you for contacting Audible!

The current version of the Audible for iOS (v3.54) requires an OS version of 14 
or higher, or a watchOS of 7 or later. As I understand from the information 
provided your iOS device is currently running iOS 13.7.

While an older version of the Audible for iOS app will remain available to you 
in the App Store, to see any further updated versions, you will need to update 
your device to iOS 14. Please also keep in mind that while we will continue to 
support you with troubleshooting steps, new features and fixes may not be 
available to you and any troubleshooting of older app versions may be limited.

Thank you again for your continued patience. Stay safe. 
[END MESSAGE]:

So, after receiving this message I immediately contacted iTunes support and 
spoke, at length with a senior advisor.  She assures me that they only have 1 
(one) version of the app on the store and that the app is the latest version, 
only.

I asked her what would happen if a person running iOS 13.7 attempted to 
download the Audible app, for the very first time.  That seemed to stump her; 
she said that she did not know; that a device, downloading the app fir the very 
first time, may, in fact, have access to the earlier version of the app.  
Regardless, it does not apply to me because they cannot remove the app from my 
list of purchases.

So, a few minutes ago, just as an afterthought, I searched the web for a 32-bit 
version of the latest versions of iTunes for Windows.  You may recall that a 
while back, when I searched, I could not find any Apple supported version of 
iTunes for Windows 7 or 8, 32-bit.

Well, believe it or not, as of December 7, 2020, they have made a 32-bit of 
iTunes 12.10.11.2 available for download.  I was stunned.

Later this weekend, I will attempt to install this version of iTunes onto my PC 
and, if successful, then I will update my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.

Wish me luck.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

Hello Everyone,

First, let me thank all of you for the wonderful feedback on this issue.

Rather than cluttering up the list by replying to each post, individually, I 
will write a general reply here:

1.
This audible problem appears to happen with versions of iOS earlier than 14.x

2.
The info in the app store clearly states that the latest release, v3.54 should 
work with all versions of iOS 11 or higher.

3.
The issue is not the download process but the installation process.

4.
I was running the previous build of the app but got annoyed at the fact that 
the App Store badge kept stating that 1 new update was available.  This is why 
I deleted the previous version of Audible in an attempt to install a fresh 
copy.  Obviously this did not work; so now I don't have the app on my phone.

5.
As much as it shames me, all of my Windows computers are obsolete; as such, I 
cannot download the latest version of iTunes.  Were I to update the OS on my 
phone to iOS 14.x, then I would no longer be able to use my current version of 
iTunes for Windows in order to sync data.  I have just been delaying the 
inevitable, said inevitability being that I must buy a new Windows computer so 
I can install the latest version of iTunes.  Another option is that I can 
switch my iTunes Library to my Mac, an option in a pinch but one I would prefer 
to avoid.  There is really not a good reason to avoid using my Mac for my 
primary phone but, deep down, I'm a Windows guy, I guess (smile).

6.
I am going to buy whatever version of iPhone is next released, regardless of 
Touch ID.  So, at that time, I will take the plunge and add a new Windows 
computer to the team so I can have every available option for the new phone.

7.
I have posted feedback about this problem in the App Store.

8.
I have contacted Audible support and they have created a trouble ticket and 
assure me that the problem should be resolved in a few days.

9.
I also contacted Audible via Twitter.  They actually told me that I could 
download the previous version of the app from the App Store but, of course, 
they were mistaken; that kind of rollback is 

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

I was running IOS 14.7.1 and didn't see the spatial audio setting. I 
updated to the iOS beta 15.6 and can access the settings now to enable it.



You need to bring up Safari browser and visit this page to learn more:

http://beta.apple.com/profile


I did do a full backup of my iPhone 8 to iCloud and my PC before 
updating to Beta. Works great! Love my Airpod Max even more now.



On 8/19/2021 9:22 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I don’t find the follow my iPhone setting any more, but this could be 
me and not the fact that it isn’t there anymore. This predates special 
audio. I turned this off because as I’m wondering around the house, I 
don’t need the audio to appear as if it’s coming from my iPhone, since 
I’m not actually looking at the video on my phone. I’d assume you 
would not need to turn this on to work with special audio, but you 
could test it to make sure.


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Kenneth Washington

*Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:42 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone 
and iPad


Nice! Does anyone know which movies or TV shows on Netflix has this 
spatial audio track available? Wish to test this out on my Airpods Max.


There is also a confusing setting on my iPhone called "Follow iPhone." 
It's located in Settings/Accessibility/Airpods. Not sure if this needs 
to be toggled off or on to enable the Spatial audio feature.


On 8/18/2021 4:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to
Netflix.

*Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad*

9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller



Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio
support to its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an
immersive experience using directional audio filters, and it has
been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to /9to5Mac /that the company
has started rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
on iOS 14. The news was first reported by users on Reddit


as well as in a report from /iPhoneSoft/

,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control
Center. The spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and
AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using
directional audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in
space, creating an immersive sound experience.” This will put
surround channels exactly in the right spot, even as you turn your
head or move your device.

Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods
Pro and AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie
theater experience right to your AirPods Pro. By applying
directional audio filters and subtly adjusting the frequencies
each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds virtually
anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound
experience. Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your
AirPods Pro and your iPhone, spatial audio tracks the motion
of your head as well as your device, compares the motion data,
and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize
Stereo option

,
which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos
conten

Re: location tracking question

[Kelly Pierce]

Vicki,

It sounds like you want to reset location services.  The default on a
new installation is for location services to be off for all apps and
to ask permission for each app.  When location services are reset, it
will be off and you can then decide what you want to enable.  You can
also just flick through the list and individually set your location
services preference for each app.

Kelly



On 8/19/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> If you turn off location services, doing so turns off location services for
> ALL apps. Location service will be temporarily restored if Find My is
> activated for a lost or stolen device. You can choose which apps to use
> location service with. And you can set each app to track location Always,
> Only when using the app or Never.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> What I'm asking is, if I turn it off globally, can I still turn it on
>> only for specific apps?
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Kelly Pierce" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: location tracking question
>>
>>
>> In checking further, location services in privacy just applies to
>> apps. It can be turned on or off globally or set for each app.  You
>> are correct that turning off location services does not impact calls
>> or texts.  However, cell phone companies will still be having data on
>> a user’s location.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/18/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hello Kelly,
>>>
>>> I don't think that is correct. If I go to Settings > Privacy > Location
>>> Services and I turn it off completely I can still make and receive calls
>>> and
>>> send and receive text messages.
>>> I am pretty sure Location Services uses the phone's GPS to determine its
>>> location and not cell towers.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Kelly
>>> Pierce
>>> Sent: August 18, 2021 8:52 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: location tracking question
>>>
>>> Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you
>>> would
>>> not be able to receive calls or text messages because your cellular
>>> carrier
>>> would not know which cell towers could provide service to you.
>>> Therefore,
>>> cell phone companies need to track the location of devices on their
>>> networks
>>> to provide service to them.  The people on this list want this kind of
>>> service. If you do not, then you should use an iPhone touch or keep your
>>> device permanently on airplane mode.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can
>>> access
>>> your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all apps owned
>>> by
>>> Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps constantly track
>>> your
>>> location even when the app is closed.  It is necessary to configure
>>> settings
>>> in your Google account to stop google from hanging on to location
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
 Hi,

 Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned
 off and just turn it on for specific apps?

 If so, how?

 Thanks.

 Vicki

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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

I have seen a few more articles talking about this Netflix spacial audio thing. 
They say it is rolling out slowly, and the toggle to turn on spacial audio for 
Netflix will be found in the control center they say. I’ve seen that in several 
articles now, and it is apparently not talking about that  menu that richard’s 
been talking about. They just say it’s a toggle on or off, not a menu. So I 
guess if you don’t see it in your control center, it hasn’t rolled out to your 
version of Netflix yet.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
> menu.
> I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
> Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
> So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
>> beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort 
>> of menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve 
>> said AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access 
>> this menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
>>> heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio 
>>> and video I think.
>>> anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and 
>>> video content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control 
>>> spatial audio in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, 
>>> then tapping Spatial Audio.
>>> Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find 
>>> a whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide 
>>> that experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
>>> I like it.
>>> I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I 
>>> do not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
  I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which 
 within be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
> managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
> Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you 
> configured it in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>  
> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
> 
> 
> 
> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to 
> its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience 
> using directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to 
> Netflix users.
> 
> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has 
> started rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. 
> The news was first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report 
> from iPhoneSoft,
> 
> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. 
> The spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
> 
> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using 
> directional audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, 
> creating an immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels 
> exactly in the right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
> 
> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
> AirPods Max users:
> 
> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater 
> experience right to your AirPods Pro. By applying direct

Re: Can't find my search button in voice dream reader

[Donna Casteen]

Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick down to turn off

Donna

> 
> I have lost the search box in my voice dream reader app. The keyboard no 
> longer shows up.. I have an iPhone 11 Pro. I have an iPhone 11 Pro.. I have 
> an iPhone 11 Pro. How do I get my keyboard back
> 
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Re: location tracking question

[Donna Casteen]

If you turn off location services, doing so turns off location services for ALL 
apps. Location service will be temporarily restored if Find My is activated for 
a lost or stolen device. You can choose which apps to use location service 
with. And you can set each app to track location Always, Only when using the 
app or Never.

Donna

> 
> What I'm asking is, if I turn it off globally, can I still turn it on only 
> for specific apps?
> 
> Vicki
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kelly Pierce" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: location tracking question
> 
> 
> In checking further, location services in privacy just applies to
> apps. It can be turned on or off globally or set for each app.  You
> are correct that turning off location services does not impact calls
> or texts.  However, cell phone companies will still be having data on
> a user’s location.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/18/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hello Kelly,
>> 
>> I don't think that is correct. If I go to Settings > Privacy > Location
>> Services and I turn it off completely I can still make and receive calls and
>> send and receive text messages.
>> I am pretty sure Location Services uses the phone's GPS to determine its
>> location and not cell towers.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
>> Pierce
>> Sent: August 18, 2021 8:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: location tracking question
>> 
>> Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you would
>> not be able to receive calls or text messages because your cellular carrier
>> would not know which cell towers could provide service to you.  Therefore,
>> cell phone companies need to track the location of devices on their networks
>> to provide service to them.  The people on this list want this kind of
>> service. If you do not, then you should use an iPhone touch or keep your
>> device permanently on airplane mode.
>> 
>> Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can access
>> your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all apps owned by
>> Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps constantly track your
>> location even when the app is closed.  It is necessary to configure settings
>> in your Google account to stop google from hanging on to location
>> information.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned
>>> off and just turn it on for specific apps?
>>> 
>>> If so, how?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Vicki
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Re: location tracking question

[Vicki W.]

What I'm asking is, if I turn it off globally, can I still turn it on only 
for specific apps?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: location tracking question


In checking further, location services in privacy just applies to
apps. It can be turned on or off globally or set for each app.  You
are correct that turning off location services does not impact calls
or texts.  However, cell phone companies will still be having data on
a user’s location.

Kelly




On 8/18/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hello Kelly,

I don't think that is correct. If I go to Settings > Privacy > Location
Services and I turn it off completely I can still make and receive calls 
and

send and receive text messages.
I am pretty sure Location Services uses the phone's GPS to determine its
location and not cell towers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kelly

Pierce
Sent: August 18, 2021 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: location tracking question

Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you would
not be able to receive calls or text messages because your cellular 
carrier

would not know which cell towers could provide service to you.  Therefore,
cell phone companies need to track the location of devices on their 
networks

to provide service to them.  The people on this list want this kind of
service. If you do not, then you should use an iPhone touch or keep your
device permanently on airplane mode.

Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can 
access
your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all apps owned 
by

Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps constantly track your
location even when the app is closed.  It is necessary to configure 
settings

in your Google account to stop google from hanging on to location
information.

Kelly




On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned
off and just turn it on for specific apps?

If so, how?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Can't find my search button in voice dream reader

['Dulce Weisenborn' via VIPhone]

I have lost the search box in my voice dream reader app. The keyboard no longer 
shows up.. I have an iPhone 11 Pro. I have an iPhone 11 Pro.. I have an iPhone 
11 Pro. How do I get my keyboard back

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Re: location tracking question

[Kelly Pierce]

In checking further, location services in privacy just applies to
apps. It can be turned on or off globally or set for each app.  You
are correct that turning off location services does not impact calls
or texts.  However, cell phone companies will still be having data on
a user’s location.

Kelly




On 8/18/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hello Kelly,
>
> I don't think that is correct. If I go to Settings > Privacy > Location
> Services and I turn it off completely I can still make and receive calls and
> send and receive text messages.
> I am pretty sure Location Services uses the phone's GPS to determine its
> location and not cell towers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: August 18, 2021 8:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: location tracking question
>
> Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you would
> not be able to receive calls or text messages because your cellular carrier
> would not know which cell towers could provide service to you.  Therefore,
> cell phone companies need to track the location of devices on their networks
> to provide service to them.  The people on this list want this kind of
> service. If you do not, then you should use an iPhone touch or keep your
> device permanently on airplane mode.
>
> Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can access
> your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all apps owned by
> Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps constantly track your
> location even when the app is closed.  It is necessary to configure settings
> in your Google account to stop google from hanging on to location
> information.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned
>> off and just turn it on for specific apps?
>>
>> If so, how?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki
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RE: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

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Hi.

I've had this problem for several months. I get things working by getting focus 
away from the app and back again.

Kevin and Jilly

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Lately, when I open Amazon Alexa, it goes to earpiece   Has anybody else seen 
this happen?

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Re: Amazon Alexa goes to earpiece

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
Yes this is a known bug with the app. Usually if you go back to the home screen 
and then back into the app from the app should be back to normal.

Greg WOcher
the app switcher, 

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Lately, when I open Amazon Alexa, it goes to earpiece   Has anybody else seen 
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Apple phone sales, was a chip question

[Richard Turner]

What Apple provides as their phone number for help ordering products is the 
most helpful: (800) MY-APPLE, which numerically is 800-692-7753

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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Star Gazer]

How do we know which shows have it and will it only work on certain headphones?

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio heading 
you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and video I 
think. 
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
 





 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard 
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On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
 
Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
 
Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
 
Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller




Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users. 
A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max. 
Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:
Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.
iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty much 
any song or video. 


Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/
 
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Re: A chip question

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi Kevin, or who ever else can answer this.  I realize this is an older 
message, but what number did you call to order something from Apple?

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Minor
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:32 PM
  Subject: RE: A chip question


  Hi.



  I have a pair of gaming headphones that I connect to my iPhone with a 
lightning adaptor. I lost that adaptor, and decided to order one that had a 
3.5 mm jack on it, and a lightning jack to hook a cord so I could charge it 
and use the headphones at the same time. I connected the gaming headphones 
to the 3.5 mm jack to see how well it would work. I activated Siri on my 
phone, and spoke into my gaming mic. To my surprise, Siri came out of the 
speakers on my phone. I then tried to make a call on my iPhone, and instead 
of it coming through my headphones, it was routed to the ear speaker, which 
meant I couldn’t hear it. I can’t remember the brand of adaptor I got, but 
at least this one didn’t route phone audio through it, and the gaming mic 
didn’t work at all. I called up Apple and ordered that little lightning plug 
that I had, and all works as expected. I do have an adaptor with two female 
lightning plugs on it, so I can use my headphones and charge my phone at the 
same time.



  Just giving a heads up.



  Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

  Kevin and Jilly



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 2:22 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: A chip question



  Yes there are.



  I have one that uses the 3.5 MM earphone jack but they make one that uses 
the lightning jack.  It is a small rectangular box with a charging port for 
your charging cable, and another port for the earphones, then a short cable; 
maybe 3 inches, that you plug into the phones charging port.

  Thefollowing one will work with your lightning earphones:



  Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge Rockstar
  Product Information

  Overview

  The Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar offers dual functionality for 
charging and listening to your iPhone or iPad. Whether you want to charge in 
the car, on the go, or at home, the adapter makes it possible to listen to 
Lightning Audio and power your iPhone, simultaneously.



  From Apple, It is $39.95

  Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge Rockstar - Apple



  You may want to see if Amazon carries it for less; or someplace else.



  HTH,







  Richard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Johnna Simmons
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A chip question



  Hi Richard I seem to get a lot of good information from you on this list. 
So, I am wondering if you can answer this question for me I have an iPhone 
12 mini and the battery does not hold very well and so I would like to hook 
an external battery to it. But I also like do use the Apple headphones 
instead of Bluetooth. Is there an adapter that I can plug into my phone that 
will allow me to charge it and listen buy headphones? Thanks.

  Johnna Simmons



On Aug 12, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



I’m holding out to see if the iPhone 13 models offer Lidar on all their 
models instead of the most expensive ones only.









Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:14 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: A chip question



Hi Kay,



Only the iPHone 12 Pro and Max have LIDAR, not the mini. There aren't 
any 2021 models yet, so we don't know which will have it. The 2020 SE does 
not.



Best,

Anna







  On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



  Does anyone know if the 12 mini has the capabilities of Lidar, not 
sure of the spelling? Or the SE 2021?


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

[Richard Turner]

Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.

HTH,



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-Original Message-
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Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

hi,

I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
unprotected MP3 audio files.

I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.

Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?

I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't find the follow my iPhone setting any more, but this could be me and 
not the fact that it isn't there anymore. This predates special audio. I turned 
this off because as I'm wondering around the house, I don't need the audio to 
appear as if it's coming from my iPhone, since I'm not actually looking at the 
video on my phone. I'd assume you would not need to turn this on to work with 
special audio, but you could test it to make sure.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad


Nice! Does anyone know which movies or TV shows on Netflix has this spatial 
audio track available? Wish to test this out on my Airpods Max.



There is also a confusing setting on my iPhone called "Follow iPhone." It's 
located in Settings/Accessibility/Airpods. Not sure if this needs to be toggled 
off or on to enable the Spatial audio feature.


On 8/18/2021 4:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to "play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience." This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here's how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option,
 which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos content. This 
allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty much any song or 
video.


Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/

Re: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

[Steve Matzura]

Sorry, I tried that before I wrote my message, and no go.


On 8/18/2021 11:01 AM, Paula Jordan wrote:

Hi Steve. This sounds basic and you probably did it already, but sometimes my 
hearing aids don’t pair. I shut the phone down and bring it back up and they 
pair again. Hope it's as simple as that.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

For the first time in eighteen months, I got to go out to a public gathering. 
Of course, I put a fresh set of batteries in my hearing aids and inserted them 
into my ears, but when I tried using the phone with them, not only were they 
not paired with the phone, but I could not do the pairing. I opened Bluetooth 
Settings and found somebody's LG something in the area with which I 
accidentally paired, but my hearing aids weren't even on the list. My aids are 
not the type that can receive firmware updates, so I know that's not the 
problem. However, I do have an Apple Watch, and it was correctly paired with 
the phone. Is it possible that it's not permissible to have a watch and aids 
paired at the same time? Or did I possibly forget to set something up on the 
phone correctly when I did the initial install and setup, moving from the 10S 
(or XS) Max to the 12 Pro Max two months ago?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions, gratefully received.


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Re: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

[Steve Matzura]

I thought so, but before I tried it, I thought I'd wait for 
confirmation. Thanks! I'll go do that now.



On 8/18/2021 1:02 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi,
You have to go into MFI to pair hearing aids.
Mr. Ed

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Steve Matzura
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

For the first time in eighteen months, I got to go out to a public
gathering. Of course, I put a fresh set of batteries in my hearing aids
and inserted them into my ears, but when I tried using the phone with
them, not only were they not paired with the phone, but I could not do
the pairing. I opened Bluetooth Settings and found somebody's LG
something in the area with which I accidentally paired, but my hearing
aids weren't even on the list. My aids are not the type that can receive
firmware updates, so I know that's not the problem. However, I do have
an Apple Watch, and it was correctly paired with the phone. Is it
possible that it's not permissible to have a watch and aids paired at
the same time? Or did I possibly forget to set something up on the phone
correctly when I did the initial install and setup, moving from the 10S
(or XS) Max to the 12 Pro Max two months ago?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions, gratefully received.


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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I just tried it out on Girls Incarserated and it worked without any settings to 
mess with. It was so cool! The show wasn’t that fun, but I just picked one.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Kenneth Washington  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice! Does anyone know which movies or TV shows on Netflix has this spatial 
> audio track available? Wish to test this out on my Airpods Max.
> 
> 
> 
> There is also a confusing setting on my iPhone called "Follow iPhone." It's 
> located in Settings/Accessibility/Airpods. Not sure if this needs to be 
> toggled off or on to enable the Spatial audio feature.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/18/2021 4:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>> 
>> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>> 
>> 
>> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to 
>> its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
>> directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix 
>> users.
>> 
>> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
>> rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
>> first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
>> 
>> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
>> spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
>> 
>> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
>> audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
>> immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
>> right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
>> 
>> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
>> AirPods Max users:
>> 
>> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
>> right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
>> adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
>> virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound 
>> experience. Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and 
>> your iPhone, spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your 
>> device, compares the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it 
>> stays anchored to your device even as your head moves.
>> 
>> iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
>> option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
>> content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty 
>> much any song or video.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: 
>> https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/
>> 
>> 
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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Star Gazer]

Where do you find the special audio settings? 

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

True, but since I was just planning to test the ability to get to the special 
audio features through the volume slider, I figured an Apple show would be the 
best sure fire way to check it out. I’m not clear on whether the Netflix 
support has been rolled all the way out yet, although obviously I’ll take it 
for a spin soon.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Well, Ted Lasso is an Apple TV product, not a Netflix product. So I don’t know. 
You should just be able to turn spatial audio on for your AirPods Pro, and 
Collett good. this is weird.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
 
Ah, OK, I didn’t know this, and I guess I didn’t read the article closely 
enough. I’ll go pop in my Airpod Pros, bring up an episode of Ted Lasso, and 
see if I can find this setting by messing around with the volume slider. Thanks 
again!
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
 
Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
menu. 
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.
 
 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
www.turner42.com
 


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.
 
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think. 
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
 





 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 


 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
www.turner42.com
 


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
 
Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
 
Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
 
Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller




Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users. 
A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max. 
A

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Kenneth Washington]

Nice! Does anyone know which movies or TV shows on Netflix has this 
spatial audio track available? Wish to test this out on my Airpods Max.



There is also a confusing setting on my iPhone called "Follow iPhone." 
It's located in Settings/Accessibility/Airpods. Not sure if this needs 
to be toggled off or on to enable the Spatial audio feature.



On 8/18/2021 4:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support 
to its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive 
experience using directional audio filters, and it has been a long 
time coming to Netflix users.


A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to /9to5Mac /that the company has 
started rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 
14. The news was first reported by users on Reddit 
 
as well as in a report from /iPhoneSoft/ 
,


The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control 
Center. The spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max.


Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, 
creating an immersive sound experience.” This will put surround 
channels exactly in the right spot, even as you turn your head or move 
your device.


Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro 
and AirPods Max users:


Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater
experience right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional
audio filters and subtly adjusting the frequencies each ear
receives, spatial audio can place sounds virtually anywhere in
space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. Using the
gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone,
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your
device, compares the motion data, and then remaps the sound field
so that it stays anchored to your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize 
Stereo option 
, 
which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to 
pretty much any song or video.




Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/ 




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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, but since I was just planning to test the ability to get to the special 
audio features through the volume slider, I figured an Apple show would be the 
best sure fire way to check it out. I’m not clear on whether the Netflix 
support has been rolled all the way out yet, although obviously I’ll take it 
for a spin soon.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Well, Ted Lasso is an Apple TV product, not a Netflix product. So I don’t know. 
You should just be able to turn spatial audio on for your AirPods Pro, and 
Collett good. this is weird.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, OK, I didn’t know this, and I guess I didn’t read the article closely 
enough. I’ll go pop in my Airpod Pros, bring up an episode of Ted Lasso, and 
see if I can find this setting by messing around with the volume slider. Thanks 
again!

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:









 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Netflix now rolling