Considering the new Apple Watch

[Renee Patete]

Hi readers,
I am a new member here, so I hope this email goes to the right place.
The Apple Watch series 7 arrives in my country this week, and I am considering 
getting one to replace my now broken series 4. However, I have heard somewhere 
that the screen reader may no longer be very good on the new watches. Can 
anyone who has had experience with the new one please let me know whether it is 
still as accessible as it used to be? I have no remaining vision, so need a 
completely reliable screen reader.
Thank you in advance,
Renee 

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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Kay Malmquist]

I meant control center, not notification center.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 10:22 PM
  Subject: RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen


  Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you 
feel the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to 
the second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen



  Hi Paula,



  Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
upwards you need to touch the Status bar.





  Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
  Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


  - Original Message - 

  From: Paula Jordan

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM

  Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen



  I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on 
my home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and 
to the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.

  God bless!

  Paula and the pups

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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Kay Malmquist]

You said to let go after the first haptic feedback, then to slide down 
farther to get to the notification center.  I thought you were just supposed 
to slide down until you got to the second feedback without picking your 
finger up.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 10:22 PM
  Subject: RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen


  Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you 
feel the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to 
the second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen



  Hi Paula,



  Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
upwards you need to touch the Status bar.





  Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
  Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


  - Original Message - 

  From: Paula Jordan

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM

  Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen



  I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on 
my home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and 
to the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.

  God bless!

  Paula and the pups

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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have an iPhone 11 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and even if I turn on 
Voiceover on my wife's iPhone I don't have an issue with the Wallet app 
crashing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: October 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

iPhone 8Plus for me and iPhone 11 Pro for a friend of mine.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using.
It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
others running iOS 15...


Richard
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On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:26 PM, 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
Wallet still crashes when choosing card.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

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On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon 
mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

It says bug fixes and important security updates.

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RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Hi Paula,

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards 
you need to touch the Status bar.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message -
From: Paula Jordan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Re: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[CHELA Robles]

Speaking of AirPods Pro, I hear that Apple might be coming out with a second 
version and if that’s the case I will wait until it’s released to the public as 
for sale to get a pair. I used to have the AirPods second generation before it 
conked out on me the batteries stopped working internally for some reason.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:08 PM, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Richard, That’s great to hear, I was in hopes that this was the case! 
> Dan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 11:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every 
> now and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right 
> until you get to the firmware number.
> It should end in 400.
>  
> 
>  
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> 
> Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware 
> occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are 
> there steps needed to do this?
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RE: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[danneyyates]

Thanks, Richard, That’s great to hear, I was in hopes that this was the case!  

Dan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every now 
and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right until 
you get to the firmware number. 

It should end in 400.

 

 

Richard

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Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware 
occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are 
there steps needed to do this?

Dan

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Re: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[Richard Turner]

They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every now 
and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right until 
you get to the firmware number.
It should end in 400.



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On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:15 PM, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware 
occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are 
there steps needed to do this?
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Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

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Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware
occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are
there steps needed to do this?

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Re: hey siri

[Richard Turner]

I am responding using hey Siri on 15.0.2

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On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:

Hey Siri seemed to work on 15.01, but not on 15.2.
Interesting.
God bless!
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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Mike B.]

Hi Paula,

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
upwards you need to touch the Status bar.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen


I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups


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gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Paula Jordan]

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my
home screen, but it doesn't seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing?
Thanks.

God bless!

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hey siri

[Paula Jordan]

Hey Siri seemed to work on 15.01, but not on 15.2.

Interesting.

God bless!

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RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

[Christopher Chaltain]

I can't understand this message, so let me just provide some more information.

It seems that I need to toggle on hand gestures in the VoiceOver settings on my 
Apple Watch. You might need to do this through the Watch app on your iPhone. 
That might have been what got it working for me. Note I have an Apple Watch SE. 
You also need to be running WatchOS 8 and IOS 15.

Now after you wake up your Apple Watch, say by pressing the crown, you can 
enable hand gestures with a double clench. This means make a fist twice quickly 
with the same hand your watch is on. Once it's enabled you can move from item 
to item with the pinch and double pinch gestures. This is the same as swiping 
on the face of your watch, but you're not touching your watch and your using 
the fingers on the same hand your watch is on. So for example, if I pinch my 
pointer and thumb together, I'll hear Mindfulness and with another pinch I'll 
hear Workout and then the time. These are the objects on my watch face. A 
double pinch will move me back an item, so say from the time to Workout and 
then to Mindfulness. To activate the item I just heard VoiceOver announce, I 
just need to do a clench, that means make a fist with the hand my watch is on. 
This way I can work with my watch without having to touch the screen.

I hope that helps explains things a bit.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

Sorry but I'm missing something ere,

You ae tese gestures atiated and you an use your and to enable different tings 
on your wat?

Tat is something I missed alogn te way,

I 'll ae to ek tis out.
 Please keep us more informed wit tis one.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:54 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I am running Watch OS 8. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Hand 
Gestures, I have them toggled on. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> Assistive 
Touch (which is in the Motor section) the option to toggle this on is greyed 
out.

I'm not sure what I just did, but they just started working with the above 
settings. Using the defaults, when the watch face is active, I can enable hand 
gestures with a double clench. A clench is making a fist, so if I do this twice 
then hand gestures are enabled. To move from item to the next item, I can 
perform a pinch gesture by just touching my pointer finger to my thumb. A 
double pinch moves backwards. A clench performs a double tap on whatever has 
focus and the double clench simulates a press of the crown. I'm still playing 
with it, and I haven't determined how useful they are yet, but I'm intrigued.

You can learn more by going to 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable Assistive 
Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to version 8 of the 
operating system, then these new gestures will not work.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm also curious if anyone has had any success with these gestures.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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> Subject: New hand gestures on Apple watch
>
> Hi all,
> I thought I would try these out. I turned them on in the watch app, 
> but the watch is not responding to the clenches or pinches. I've 
> restarted my watch.
>
> Thanks in advance
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[sarai.bucciarelli]

It crashes as soon as you hit the more cards button.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mark 
Brett
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

 

Hi, if you swipe it crashes for me. Try feeling around the screen and double 
tapping on the item you want that seems to work for me

 

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On 12 Oct 2021, at 00:43, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using. 

It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
others running iOS 15...

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:26 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Wallet still crashes when choosing card.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


Maria Campbell
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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



The wallet crashing bug is still here.

 

-Original Message-

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gordon

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

 

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.

These versions fix things and close security gaps.

 

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

Hi! Gordon, and List:

 

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com  

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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It says bug fixes and important security updates.

 

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Mark Brett]

Hi, if you swipe it crashes for me. Try feeling around the screen and double 
tapping on the item you want that seems to work for me


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On 12 Oct 2021, at 00:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using.
It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
others running iOS 15...



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  




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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:26 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Wallet still crashes when choosing card.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Campbell
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
> 
> The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
> On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
>> 
>> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
>> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
>> 
>> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>>> 
>>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. 
>>> I’m wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. 
>>> So far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. 
>>> Or at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make 
>>> sure or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some 
>>> people on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it 
>>> seems for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to 
>>> be sure that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[sarai.bucciarelli]

iPhone 8Plus for me and iPhone 11 Pro for a friend of mine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

 

I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using. 

It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
others running iOS 15...

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:26 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Wallet still crashes when choosing card.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


Maria Campbell
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All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



The wallet crashing bug is still here.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gordon

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

 

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.

These versions fix things and close security gaps.

 

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

Hi! Gordon, and List:

 

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com  

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Richard Turner]

I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using.
It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
others running iOS 15...



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:26 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Wallet still crashes when choosing card.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Wallet still crashes when choosing card.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
>
> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
>
> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>>
>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
>> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So 
>> far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or 
>> at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure 
>> or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people 
>> on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems 
>> for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure 
>> that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon  wrote:
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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Maria Campbell]

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


Maria Campbell
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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone


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RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry but I'm missing something ere,

You ae tese gestures atiated and you an use your and to enable different tings 
on your wat?

Tat is something I missed alogn te way,

I 'll ae to ek tis out.
 Please keep us more informed wit tis one.


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Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:54 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I am running Watch OS 8. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Hand 
Gestures, I have them toggled on. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> Assistive 
Touch (which is in the Motor section) the option to toggle this on is greyed 
out.

I'm not sure what I just did, but they just started working with the above 
settings. Using the defaults, when the watch face is active, I can enable hand 
gestures with a double clench. A clench is making a fist, so if I do this twice 
then hand gestures are enabled. To move from item to the next item, I can 
perform a pinch gesture by just touching my pointer finger to my thumb. A 
double pinch moves backwards. A clench performs a double tap on whatever has 
focus and the double clench simulates a press of the crown. I'm still playing 
with it, and I haven't determined how useful they are yet, but I'm intrigued.

You can learn more by going to 
https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-use-assistivetouch-on-apple-watch/

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable Assistive 
Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to version 8 of the 
operating system, then these new gestures will not work.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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>
> Hi all,
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RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

[Christopher Chaltain]

I am running Watch OS 8. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Hand 
Gestures, I have them toggled on. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> Assistive 
Touch (which is in the 
Motor section) the option to toggle this on is greyed out.

I'm not sure what I just did, but they just started working with the above 
settings. Using the defaults, when the watch face is active, I can enable hand 
gestures with a double clench. A clench is making a fist, so if I do this twice 
then hand gestures are enabled. To move from item to the next item, I can 
perform a pinch gesture by just touching my pointer finger to my thumb. A 
double pinch moves backwards. A clench performs a double tap on whatever has 
focus and the double clench simulates a press of the crown. I'm still playing 
with it, and I haven't determined how useful they are yet, but I'm intrigued.

You can learn more by going to 
https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-use-assistivetouch-on-apple-watch/

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable Assistive 
Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to version 8 of the 
operating system, then these new gestures will not work.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

[Wayne Merritt]

I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable
Assistive Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to
version 8 of the operating system, then these new gestures will not
work.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

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> I'm also curious if anyone has had any success with these gestures.
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> Subject: New hand gestures on Apple watch
>
> Hi all,
> I thought I would try these out. I turned them on in the watch app, but the
> watch is not responding to the clenches or pinches. I've restarted my
> watch.
>
> Thanks in advance
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It should be said that for you and others the Wallet crashing bug is still 
there, I have never experienced this since the initial release of iOS 15.
Do you have Reduced Motion turned On or Off? I know this fixes the app switcher 
issue where Voiceover sometimes doesn't say the name of the app when you flick 
left and I wonder if it could also have an effect on Wallet.
Of course if quite a lot of people experience this it is a bug of some sort, 
but I wonder if a particular Setting is responsible.

-Original Message-
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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: October 11, 2021 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>
> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
> my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
> in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
> least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
> least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
> list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
> people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I 
> don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
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>> It says bug fixes and important security updates.
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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Holly]

Siri not responding on lock screen still there.

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Ken Brown]

Yes, the wallet crashing bug is still there, but you can get by it by going 
into settings and then wallet and Apple Pay and you can do the same things you 
normally do with Wallet.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
> 
> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
> 
>> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>> 
>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
>> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So 
>> far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or 
>> at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure 
>> or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people 
>> on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems 
>> for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure 
>> that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>> 
>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[sarai.bucciarelli]

The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>
> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
> my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
> in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
> least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
> least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
> list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
> people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I 
> don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: commas instead of names?

[Vicki W.]

No, no problem with deleting characters, just replacing entire words or names 
of apps with the word comma.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 6:02 PM
  Subject: RE: commas instead of names?


  If you absolutely need to reset all settings, you can, but I discovered that 
was like killing a fly with a sledge hammer.

   

  If you are having the issue of VoiceOver saying Comma before each character 
you delete, go to settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, and set 
“deleting text’ to do nothing.

  It will still speak the character you delete but it won’t add the word comma.

   

  If you are determined to have to fix tons of settings with many many apps, go 
to settings, general, Transfer or Reset iPhone, double tap, and go down to 
Reset, double tap and then pick your poison.

  Just don’t do Erase all content unless  you really want to wipe out your 
phone …

   

   

   

   

  Richard

  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
– Jane Wagner

   

  My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: commas instead of names?

   

  Where do I go to reset all settings? I assume this is a single change, not 
changing them all separately.

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Donna Casteen 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: commas instead of names?

 

I've seen others mention this problem since updating to IOS 15. They report 
that resetting all settings resolves the problem. Note: Resetting all settings 
just resets what is in the settings app not the entire phone. If you choose to 
try this, good luck. Hope the solution works for you.

 

Donna

 

 

  Hi,

   

  I apologize if this has all ready been asked, but since my update, 
certain apps and other whole words are completely replaced by a comma or at 
least the word comma. There is no particular pattern, it just does it. This 
happens when arrowing down apps in settings, on the home screen and it's always 
the same app, but no reason for doing it. Any ideas how to stop this?

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

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RE: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

[Richard Turner]

Yes Alan,
You just make sure and check only sync selected songs/music, whatever it says 
and then you can select that which you want to have sync.




Richard
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Jane Wagner

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

Hi Richard,

So you were able to use iTunes to sync your music to your 13 Pro but ended up 
with it twice because it also came over with the phone to phone transfer? My 
only concern is that I have a lot more music in iTunes than I want on my iPhone 
and use selected playlists to control the transfer. I hope this option is still 
available in iTunes and I'll report back what I discover.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with 
Outlook
 for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:39:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini


Hi Alan,

My issue was that all my music transferred with the phone-to-phone transfer, 
then when I synced my phone a few days later, the computer put all my music on 
the phone for a second time, so I had two copies of everything.



I hope to have time to call them today.









Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner



My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini



Hi List,



I fully intended to write up and post an iPhone 13 setup document as I did when 
setting up my iPhone SE 2020 in late April of last year. However, after my 
dreadful setup experience with my 13 Mini, I became so frustrated with just 
getting it done that I stopped taking notes. As a cautionary note to those 
setting up new devices, I strongly suggest that you don't have a later version 
of iOS running on your older device than the version of iOS running on the 
newer device that is being set up with an iPhone to iPhone transfer. I'm 
convinced that having iOS 15.01 on my SE 2020 and iOS 15 on my 13 Mini was the 
main factor that caused my setup to fail. After about four failed setup 
attempts and a couple of calls to Apple Support, I ended up setting up the new 
iPhone as a new device with no iPhone transfer or restoration of any backup. I 
then upgraded that new phone containing none of my settings or data to iOS 
15.01 when prompted. I then connected it to my Windows 10 computer and iTunes 
and restored the encrypted backup I had made to the 13 Mini. Note that when I 
tried restoring my encrypted backup while the 13 Mini was still on iOS 15, 
iTunes returned an error message saying it couldn't restore a backup of a later 
version of iOS to a device running an earlier version. So, I've learned a hard 
lesson and hope that my sharing this will help others to avoid something 
similar.



Now, the only thing I have to figure out is how to get my iTunes music 
playlists that I had previously synced to past iPhones to my 13 Mini. Since I 
didn't do a phone to phone transfer, my music didn't move over. I would have 
thought that an iTunes encrypted backup would have included music but I seem to 
recall now that Richard might have mentioned this in another post. I'm a bit 
concerned because I don't think syncing music playlists with iTunes still works 
as it once did. I'm not sure I feel up to resetting the 13 Mini back to factory 
in order to attempt another  phone to phone transfer but if this is the only 
way to get my music moved over, I'll consider it.



Alan Lemly

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RE: SIRI on locked screen

[Carolyn]

I am finding that with Hay, Siri, that I have to ask her something, then ask 
for what I want. On the second attempt, Siri works. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:58 PM
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Please report this to Apple.

Sometimes, even if you have allow Siri on lock screen on, it does this.  You 
may be able to ask the question again right after the first failure and it may 
work.

But, this seems to be a bug.

So write to accessibil...@apple.com  

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:55 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: SIRI on locked screen

 

Hi,

 

Is there something I need to change back to get SIRI to work on the locked 
screen again? If I unlock the screen, it works most of the time, but when the 
screen is locked, it makes the sound to start talking and immediately makes the 
sound that it's finished and the screen returns to the locked screen. This all 
started since the latest IOS update.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Gordon]

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
These versions fix things and close security gaps.


On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

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It says bug fixes and important security updates.

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Michael McKay]

Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
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people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

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game center

[Paula Jordan]

Hi everyone.  Just wondering if there's a way to opt completely out of game
center.  I play some games against the phone and don't want to be bothered
with the game center stuff.  Thanks.

God bless!

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Re: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

So you were able to use iTunes to sync your music to your 13 Pro but ended up 
with it twice because it also came over with the phone to phone transfer? My 
only concern is that I have a lot more music in iTunes than I want on my iPhone 
and use selected playlists to control the transfer. I hope this option is still 
available in iTunes and I'll report back what I discover.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:39:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini


Hi Alan,

My issue was that all my music transferred with the phone-to-phone transfer, 
then when I synced my phone a few days later, the computer put all my music on 
the phone for a second time, so I had two copies of everything.



I hope to have time to call them today.









Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner



My Web site: https://www.turner42.com





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini



Hi List,



I fully intended to write up and post an iPhone 13 setup document as I did when 
setting up my iPhone SE 2020 in late April of last year. However, after my 
dreadful setup experience with my 13 Mini, I became so frustrated with just 
getting it done that I stopped taking notes. As a cautionary note to those 
setting up new devices, I strongly suggest that you don’t have a later version 
of iOS running on your older device than the version of iOS running on the 
newer device that is being set up with an iPhone to iPhone transfer. I’m 
convinced that having iOS 15.01 on my SE 2020 and iOS 15 on my 13 Mini was the 
main factor that caused my setup to fail. After about four failed setup 
attempts and a couple of calls to Apple Support, I ended up setting up the new 
iPhone as a new device with no iPhone transfer or restoration of any backup. I 
then upgraded that new phone containing none of my settings or data to iOS 
15.01 when prompted. I then connected it to my Windows 10 computer and iTunes 
and restored the encrypted backup I had made to the 13 Mini. Note that when I 
tried restoring my encrypted backup while the 13 Mini was still on iOS 15, 
iTunes returned an error message saying it couldn’t restore a backup of a later 
version of iOS to a device running an earlier version. So, I’ve learned a hard 
lesson and hope that my sharing this will help others to avoid something 
similar.



Now, the only thing I have to figure out is how to get my iTunes music 
playlists that I had previously synced to past iPhones to my 13 Mini. Since I 
didn’t do a phone to phone transfer, my music didn’t move over. I would have 
thought that an iTunes encrypted backup would have included music but I seem to 
recall now that Richard might have mentioned this in another post. I’m a bit 
concerned because I don’t think syncing music playlists with iTunes still works 
as it once did. I’m not sure I feel up to resetting the 13 Mini back to factory 
in order to attempt another  phone to phone transfer but if this is the only 
way to get my music moved over, I’ll consider it.



Alan Lemly

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RE: IOS 15 with the iPhone 8

[dm-hill]

Yes, you can install iOS 15 on an iPhone 8. The only problems you will have is 
with any glitches in iOS 15, There really aren't that many this time around.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby 

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Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:31 AM
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Hi: can I install IOS 15 on the iPhone 8? Just concerned that it might create a 
problem.
Thanks. 

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RE: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

[Richard Turner]

Hi Alan,
My issue was that all my music transferred with the phone-to-phone transfer, 
then when I synced my phone a few days later, the computer put all my music on 
the phone for a second time, so I had two copies of everything.

I hope to have time to call them today.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

Hi List,

I fully intended to write up and post an iPhone 13 setup document as I did when 
setting up my iPhone SE 2020 in late April of last year. However, after my 
dreadful setup experience with my 13 Mini, I became so frustrated with just 
getting it done that I stopped taking notes. As a cautionary note to those 
setting up new devices, I strongly suggest that you don't have a later version 
of iOS running on your older device than the version of iOS running on the 
newer device that is being set up with an iPhone to iPhone transfer. I'm 
convinced that having iOS 15.01 on my SE 2020 and iOS 15 on my 13 Mini was the 
main factor that caused my setup to fail. After about four failed setup 
attempts and a couple of calls to Apple Support, I ended up setting up the new 
iPhone as a new device with no iPhone transfer or restoration of any backup. I 
then upgraded that new phone containing none of my settings or data to iOS 
15.01 when prompted. I then connected it to my Windows 10 computer and iTunes 
and restored the encrypted backup I had made to the 13 Mini. Note that when I 
tried restoring my encrypted backup while the 13 Mini was still on iOS 15, 
iTunes returned an error message saying it couldn't restore a backup of a later 
version of iOS to a device running an earlier version. So, I've learned a hard 
lesson and hope that my sharing this will help others to avoid something 
similar.

Now, the only thing I have to figure out is how to get my iTunes music 
playlists that I had previously synced to past iPhones to my 13 Mini. Since I 
didn't do a phone to phone transfer, my music didn't move over. I would have 
thought that an iTunes encrypted backup would have included music but I seem to 
recall now that Richard might have mentioned this in another post. I'm a bit 
concerned because I don't think syncing music playlists with iTunes still works 
as it once did. I'm not sure I feel up to resetting the 13 Mini back to factory 
in order to attempt another  phone to phone transfer but if this is the only 
way to get my music moved over, I'll consider it.

Alan Lemly
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RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

[Richard Turner]

Try calling Amazon Accessibility support.
888-283-1678




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

I'm not using IOS 15, but I did restart everything and tried again with no luck.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

using Ios15 and everything connects as it should in terms of my Alexa devices; 
I'm able to hear the content on the devices as usual, on my SE2020. Maybe 
restarting the phone might help? good luck!

Enviado desde 
Correo
 para Windows

De: Johna Gravitt
Enviado: lunes, 11 de octubre de 2021 08:18 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.
It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is 
that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not 
connected I still can't seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.
Johna

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi Johna,

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven't 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

Debby

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi,
I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I've reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?
Johna

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RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

[Johna Gravitt]

Thanks, tried restarting everything including unplugging and plugging my 
devices back in.  and restarting my SE.


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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:24 AM
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Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

Very mysterious! I would try turning off your phone and then back on and also 
unplugging one of the Alexa devices, wait about 30 seconds and plug it back in. 
I am not sure it will work, but it is worth a try.

Debby

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Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.
It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is 
that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not 
connected I still can’t seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.
Johna

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Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi Johna,

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

Debby

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Gravitt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi,
I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?
Johna

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I’m not using IOS 15, but I did restart everything and tried again with no luck.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

using Ios15 and everything connects as it should in terms of my Alexa devices; 
I'm able to hear the content on the devices as usual, on my SE2020. Maybe 
restarting the phone might help? good luck!

Enviado desde Correo para 
Windows

De: Johna Gravitt
Enviado: lunes, 11 de octubre de 2021 08:18 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.
It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is 
that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not 
connected I still can’t seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.
Johna

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Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi Johna,

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

Debby

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi,
I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?
Johna

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using Ios15 and everything connects as it should in terms of my Alexa devices; I'm able to hear the content on the devices as usual, on my SE2020. Maybe restarting the phone might help? good luck! Enviado desde Correo para Windows De: Johna GravittEnviado: lunes, 11 de octubre de 2021 08:18 a. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not connected I still can’t seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.Johna From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of dm-h...@comcast.netSent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:58 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa Hi Johna, Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens. Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna GravittSent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:11 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: question about iPhone and Alexa Hi,I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my phone.  Any advice?Johna Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent AssociatePeople with disabilities, access job openings at:  https://benderconsult.com/jobs/Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean FreedomEmail: jgrav...@benderconsult.comPhone: (412)-446-4442Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567Web: www.benderconsult.comhttps://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/https://idisability.benderconsult.com/https://www.wbenc.org/certification/https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/Linkedin logo and linkTwitter logo and linkInstagram logo and linkFacebook logo and linkItunes logo and link to disabilty matters -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BLAPR16MB3636F8A3F09486F7A36759B7D2B59%40BLAPR16MB3636.namprd16.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/020a01d7be9f%249075dd80%24b1619880%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit 

RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

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Very mysterious! I would try turning off your phone and then back on and also 
unplugging one of the Alexa devices, wait about 30 seconds and plug it back in. 
I am not sure it will work, but it is worth a try.

 

Debby

 

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Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

 

I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.

It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is 
that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not 
connected I still can’t seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.

Johna

 

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dm-h...@comcast.net  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

 

Hi Johna,

 

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

 

Debby

 

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Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

 

Hi,

I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?

Johna

 

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RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

[Johna Gravitt]

I have not updated to IOS 15 yet.
It was working fine up until yesterday and the only thing that is different is 
that I started using my pluggable Bluetooth keyboard, but when that is not 
connected I still can’t seem to connect to any of my Alexa devices.
Johna

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dm-h...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi Johna,

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

Debby

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

Hi,
I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?
Johna

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RE: question about iPhone and Alexa

[dm-hill]

Hi Johna,

 

Are you using iOS 15? That is what I have on my iPhone SE 2020, but I haven’t 
tried connecting to Alexa yet. If you are using iOS 15, and if no one else has 
responded, I will give it a try later and see what happens.

 

Debby

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about iPhone and Alexa

 

Hi,

I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I’ve reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?

Johna

 

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IOS 15 with the iPhone 8

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi: can I install IOS 15 on the iPhone 8? Just concerned that it might create a 
problem.
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RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[Johna Gravitt]

How would I change the caps lock to be my vo key?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Hill
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:07 AM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Hi all,

With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO key, 
don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it might be 
worth a try.

Bob Hill



On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control and 
options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys held down 
together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick navigation by holding 
down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. This will let you do a lot 
without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web page has a lot of good 
resources. It’s at Richard Turner's Home Page 
(turner42.com)

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From: 
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Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Hello,
Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate the 
context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried using 
space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if memory 
serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when using a 
blue tooth keyboard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Johna

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Re: New watch hand gestures

[Jenifer Barr]

What are you referring to?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’ve enabled this on my watch series 6 in IOS 15 but the watch is not 
> reacting. I’ve restarted both watch and phone. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Ian
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question about iPhone and Alexa

[Johna Gravitt]

Hi,
I recently started having trouble with getting my iPhone to connect to any of 
my Alexa devices.  I've reset the, turned off Bluetooth and turned back on, and 
my phone will connect then disconnect.  If it does manage to stay connected 
nothing plays through it via when I hit play, sounds still come through my 
phone.  Any advice?
Johna

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New watch hand gestures

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Hi all,
I’ve enabled this on my watch series 6 in IOS 15 but the watch is not reacting. 
I’ve restarted both watch and phone. Any ideas?
Thanks
Ian

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello Richard:
Thanks for that information.
What I’ve learned from all of this is that in case you need it it’s a good idea 
to have your windows or Mac computer running the latest iTunes in case you need 
it. As far as the thing about having antivirus software turned off, I had to do 
this when I was doing installation of an iPhone 6 Plus a year and a half ago as 
it was not complete until I did this. So as a progression that’s what I’ve 
suggested people might want to do.

I wonder what kind of problems I’m going to have updating my wife’s iPhone if 
she decides to buy an iPhone 13?
She at this point has an iPhone 11. She’s looking at getting the iPhone Pro 13 
as it has a better camera any thought about that?


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 6:33:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

The iOS was being installed wirelessly so no computers or computer viruses 
involved.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:


Sometimes I anti-soft virus software causes the system to fail when you’re 
trying to update


*** MQ ***
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:18:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be


Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[Robert Hill]

Hi all,

With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO key, 
don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it might be 
worth a try.

Bob Hill


> On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control 
> and options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys 
> held down together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick 
> navigation by holding down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. 
> This will let you do a lot without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web 
> page has a lot of good resources. It’s at Richard Turner's Home Page 
> (turner42.com) 
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Johna Gravitt
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hello,
> Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
> Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
> I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
> Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
> cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
> type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate 
> the context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried 
> using space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if 
> memory serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when 
> using a blue tooth keyboard.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Johna
>  
> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
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My travails of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I fully intended to write up and post an iPhone 13 setup document as I did
when setting up my iPhone SE 2020 in late April of last year. However, after
my dreadful setup experience with my 13 Mini, I became so frustrated with
just getting it done that I stopped taking notes. As a cautionary note to
those setting up new devices, I strongly suggest that you don't have a later
version of iOS running on your older device than the version of iOS running
on the newer device that is being set up with an iPhone to iPhone transfer.
I'm convinced that having iOS 15.01 on my SE 2020 and iOS 15 on my 13 Mini
was the main factor that caused my setup to fail. After about four failed
setup attempts and a couple of calls to Apple Support, I ended up setting up
the new iPhone as a new device with no iPhone transfer or restoration of any
backup. I then upgraded that new phone containing none of my settings or
data to iOS 15.01 when prompted. I then connected it to my Windows 10
computer and iTunes and restored the encrypted backup I had made to the 13
Mini. Note that when I tried restoring my encrypted backup while the 13 Mini
was still on iOS 15, iTunes returned an error message saying it couldn't
restore a backup of a later version of iOS to a device running an earlier
version. So, I've learned a hard lesson and hope that my sharing this will
help others to avoid something similar.

 

Now, the only thing I have to figure out is how to get my iTunes music
playlists that I had previously synced to past iPhones to my 13 Mini. Since
I didn't do a phone to phone transfer, my music didn't move over. I would
have thought that an iTunes encrypted backup would have included music but I
seem to recall now that Richard might have mentioned this in another post.
I'm a bit concerned because I don't think syncing music playlists with
iTunes still works as it once did. I'm not sure I feel up to resetting the
13 Mini back to factory in order to attempt another  phone to phone transfer
but if this is the only way to get my music moved over, I'll consider it.

 

Alan Lemly

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