RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I have a friend that called across a café table,
Hey S*
Call the police!
When I got my first apple watch,

And next thing I  know I’ve got a 111 operator on the line,

I just explained what happened and he / we hung up.

But hey it could have resulted in a $500.00


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 6:18 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Oh that’s for sure. :-) Fortunately, I had an operator who had a sense of 
humor. She heard him gurgling and heard him tapping at the watch and she was 
laughing and she says oh you have one of those oh scared the garbage out at me 
though to hear her talking out of that thing let me tell you I fixed it so it 
has the sound coming out of it now so I know. I would like to leave the sound 
off, in case it was a real emergency if somebody breaking into the house or 
something, but, I’d rather be safe and know that I’ve hit a wrong switch 
somewhere.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Depending on the content of the diaper that could be classified as an emergency

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

I didn’t do it with the five click on the side button, but I did when it was 
set for three clicks. I accidentally got emergency. There is a cancellation 
spot there that you can hit. Also, it’s sets off an alarm if you have it set to 
do so, so you know that you’re dialing. Which I am grateful for, because my 
grandson hit my watch when they first came out with SOS and called 911 while he 
was getting his diaper changed. :-)
Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hey folks,

Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,

In most westernised countrys
I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the UsA 
Uk Europe etc,
If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
local  emergency number,
It still works.

So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,

But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc

It all goes through to the emergency services as required.

It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
their countrys as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency 

Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Joney Owen]

Oh that’s for sure. :-) Fortunately, I had an operator who had a sense of 
humor. She heard him gurgling and heard him tapping at the watch and she was 
laughing and she says oh you have one of those oh scared the garbage out at me 
though to hear her talking out of that thing let me tell you I fixed it so it 
has the sound coming out of it now so I know. I would like to leave the sound 
off, in case it was a real emergency if somebody breaking into the house or 
something, but, I’d rather be safe and know that I’ve hit a wrong switch 
somewhere.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Depending on the content of the diaper that could be classified as an 
> emergency
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
> Owen
> Sent: October 19, 2021 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
>  
> I didn’t do it with the five click on the side button, but I did when it was 
> set for three clicks. I accidentally got emergency. There is a cancellation 
> spot there that you can hit. Also, it’s sets off an alarm if you have it set 
> to do so, so you know that you’re dialing. Which I am grateful for, because 
> my grandson hit my watch when they first came out with SOS and called 911 
> while he was getting his diaper changed. :-) 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey folks,
>  
> Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,
>  
> In most westernised countrys
> I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the 
> UsA Uk Europe etc,
> If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
> local  emergency number,
> It still works.
>  
> So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,
>  
> But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc
>  
> It all goes through to the emergency services as required.
>  
> It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
> their countrys as well.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
>  
> Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
> instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating 
> my documentation but this is important information that everyone should have 
> handy.
>  
> Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076
>  
> With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
> emergency contacts.
>  
> Here's how it works
> When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
> emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
> service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
> fire, or ambulance.
>  
> You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your 
> iPhone alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose 
> to cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of 
> time after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts 
> when your location changes.
>  
> Call emergency services
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
> Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
> Emergency SOS slider appears.
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
> hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, 
> a countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until 
> the countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
> Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
> will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
> your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
> After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
> with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
> is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
> will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.
>  
> If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
> re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.
>  
> Stop sharing your location
> When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 
> hours for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop 
> Sharing Emergency Location."
>  
> End a call
> If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
> release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or 

RE: Amazon

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi, Group.
Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their iphone? 
The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an app more 
than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in fact, have 
installed some apps multiple times?

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Re: Amazon

[Kathy Brandt]

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Apple Refund?

[Fazil]

My creditcard got the refund money in three business days. Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Refund?

 

Only Apple can answer that question.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Apple Refund?

 

Hi, Group.

I purchased an app other day which is not supported much by Voiceover. So I 
went to Apple Website and requested for refund. I did not delete that app yet. 
I got the email and was told that my refund was approved but the money was not 
credited back to my creditcard. This email I got four days ago and the money is 
not back yet, is it because I did not delete the app yet?

Thanks!

 

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Multiple Copies of an App?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their
iphone? The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an
app more than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in
fact, have installed some apps multiple times?

 

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RE: Amazon

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer with 
Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can search for 
and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items to the cart 
and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address and credit card 
are the same and you select to remember that checking out using Edge or Chrome 
with a screenreader simply means you use the button quick nav keys until you 
find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo so 
they can fix it too. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi,
I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing on 
their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon app 
for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.

Feliciano
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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
> gone.
> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
> Does anyone have any advice?
> Thanks
> Richard 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just because your currency also has the "Dollar" name does not mean it is 
comparable to the US Dollar.
After all, an iPhone which costs $1,000 US costs 50,000 or 60,000 in the 
Philippines because a US Dollar is worth 51 or 52 Philippine Pesos.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: October 19, 2021 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Yeah like us in nz,
Pretty much we double the price from what apple say it is.
I’m going to have a look at the mac book pricing later with the new processors 
and see what they are in nz D.

Last time I looked it was about 6 k for the 16 inch mbp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 5:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Yes, I did listen to it now, not sure, but I think maybe the first 10 or 15 
minutes were about Apple Music and the new Airpods. These latest generation 3 
Airpods sound interesting, but I still don't like the very expensive price. On 
the one hand I'd love to try a set but then again I really don't know if I want 
to spend whatever the Canadian price will be, $179 US will most likely mean 
they are at least $249 here or maybe $259 to $279 Canadian, add to that our 
combined 12% taxes in British Columbia and it will be a $300 or just over $300 
set of earbuds. I have tons of points from my credit card and could easily buy 
a pair this way, but there is still something which makes me think not twice 
but thrice about spending that much on two little things I stick in my ear 
especially since I don't really like to stick things into my ear canal and 
probably wouldn't use them when I am going back and forth to my store every 
day. And there are so many other things I can spend money on! We just bought a 
new fridge and I'd love to get new kitchen cabinets and inf act I'd love to 
take our bedroom and combine it with a small one next door for a larger master 
bedroom and then to combine the third upstairs guest room with our living room 
and on my list of long-term plans goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

Sieghard,
I think you didn't see any messages about the presentation because it was 
boring.
That is, unless you are majorly into Mac computers, which I am not.
They actually did a comparison with what they called a high-end Compact PC to 
demonstrate the far better performance of the Mac laptop especially on battery 
life and overall speed and energy usage.
I heard no prices, but I was admittedly not giving it my whole attention.
I was just curious.
It sounds like the Siri Apple music subsccription can only be accessed by voice.
That is all they specified.
HTH,


Richard
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.

RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Depending on the content of the diaper that could be classified as an emergency

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

I didn’t do it with the five click on the side button, but I did when it was 
set for three clicks. I accidentally got emergency. There is a cancellation 
spot there that you can hit. Also, it’s sets off an alarm if you have it set to 
do so, so you know that you’re dialing. Which I am grateful for, because my 
grandson hit my watch when they first came out with SOS and called 911 while he 
was getting his diaper changed. :-)
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hey folks,

Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,

In most westernised countrys
I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the UsA 
Uk Europe etc,
If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
local  emergency number,
It still works.

So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,

But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc

It all goes through to the emergency services as required.

It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
their countrys as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.

Stop sharing your location
When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location."

End a call
If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling.

If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the red 
end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.

Add emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
Tap Done to save your changes.
You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.

RE: What is Exposé in iPad?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume that would depend entirely on how you use your iPad and whether you 
use multiple instances of an app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Exposé in iPad?

Is it helpful in any ways for voiceover users?
Thanks!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Exposé in iPad?

Fazil, a Google search for "What is Exposé on iPad" gave me the following:

How to Use App Exposé in 
iPadOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is Exposé in iPad?

Hi, Group.
May I know What is Exposé in iPad Mini and what does it do, please?
Thanks!
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RE: Amazon

[Fazil]

I think it is fixed now because I was able to select my product and to add it 
to the shopping cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I already told the people at Duolingo haven’t heard anything from them yet.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 4:24 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Joney Owen]

I didn’t do it with the five click on the side button, but I did when it was 
set for three clicks. I accidentally got emergency. There is a cancellation 
spot there that you can hit. Also, it’s sets off an alarm if you have it set to 
do so, so you know that you’re dialing. Which I am grateful for, because my 
grandson hit my watch when they first came out with SOS and called 911 while he 
was getting his diaper changed. :-) 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey folks,
>  
> Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,
>  
> In most westernised countrys
> I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the 
> UsA Uk Europe etc,
> If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
> local  emergency number,
> It still works.
>  
> So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,
>  
> But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc
>  
> It all goes through to the emergency services as required.
>  
> It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
> their countrys as well.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
>  
> Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
> instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating 
> my documentation but this is important information that everyone should have 
> handy.
>  
> Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076
>  
> With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
> emergency contacts.
>  
> Here's how it works
> When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
> emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
> service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
> fire, or ambulance.
>  
> You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your 
> iPhone alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose 
> to cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of 
> time after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts 
> when your location changes.
>  
> Call emergency services
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
> Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
> Emergency SOS slider appears.
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
> hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, 
> a countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until 
> the countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
> Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
> will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
> your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
> After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
> with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
> is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
> will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.
>  
> If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
> re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.
>  
> Stop sharing your location
> When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 
> hours for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop 
> Sharing Emergency Location."
>  
> End a call
> If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
> release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
> Stop button, then tap Stop Calling.
>  
> If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the 
> red end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.
>  
> Add emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
> Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
> You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.
>  
> Remove emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
>  
> Turn off Auto Call
> When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone 
> begins a countdown and sounds an alert. After 

RE: Bird Identification App

[bentleyj1952]

Pam,

 

May I ask you what part of the world do you live in.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bird Identification App

 

Hi,

 

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.  

 

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.  

 

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

 

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

 

Pam

 

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Re: Amazon

[CHELA Robles]

I already told the people at Duolingo haven’t heard anything from them yet.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 4:24 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
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>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
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>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
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Re: Amazon

[regina alvarado]

I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo so 
they can fix it too. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi,
I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing on 
their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon app 
for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.

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> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
> gone.
> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
> Does anyone have any advice?
> Thanks
> Richard 
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RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey folks,

Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,

In most westernised countrys
I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the UsA 
Uk Europe etc,
If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
local  emergency number,
It still works.

So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,

But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc

It all goes through to the emergency services as required.

It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
their countrys as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.

Stop sharing your location
When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location."

End a call
If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling.

If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the red 
end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.

Add emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
Tap Done to save your changes.
You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.

Remove emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.
Tap Done to save your changes.

Turn off Auto Call
When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone begins 
a countdown and sounds an alert. After the countdown ends, your iPhone 
automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to change the setting:
Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
Tap Emergency SOS.
Turn Auto Call on or off.
If you turn off this setting, you can still use the Emergency SOS slider to 
make a call.

Change how you call
On iPhone 8 or later, you can choose to call by pressing the side button five 

RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah like us in nz,
Pretty much we double the price from what apple say it is.
I’m going to have a look at the mac book pricing later with the new processors 
and see what they are in nz D.

Last time I looked it was about 6 k for the 16 inch mbp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 5:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Yes, I did listen to it now, not sure, but I think maybe the first 10 or 15 
minutes were about Apple Music and the new Airpods. These latest generation 3 
Airpods sound interesting, but I still don't like the very expensive price. On 
the one hand I'd love to try a set but then again I really don't know if I want 
to spend whatever the Canadian price will be, $179 US will most likely mean 
they are at least $249 here or maybe $259 to $279 Canadian, add to that our 
combined 12% taxes in British Columbia and it will be a $300 or just over $300 
set of earbuds. I have tons of points from my credit card and could easily buy 
a pair this way, but there is still something which makes me think not twice 
but thrice about spending that much on two little things I stick in my ear 
especially since I don't really like to stick things into my ear canal and 
probably wouldn't use them when I am going back and forth to my store every 
day. And there are so many other things I can spend money on! We just bought a 
new fridge and I'd love to get new kitchen cabinets and inf act I'd love to 
take our bedroom and combine it with a small one next door for a larger master 
bedroom and then to combine the third upstairs guest room with our living room 
and on my list of long-term plans goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

Sieghard,
I think you didn't see any messages about the presentation because it was 
boring.
That is, unless you are majorly into Mac computers, which I am not.
They actually did a comparison with what they called a high-end Compact PC to 
demonstrate the far better performance of the Mac laptop especially on battery 
life and overall speed and energy usage.
I heard no prices, but I was admittedly not giving it my whole attention.
I was just curious.
It sounds like the Siri Apple music subsccription can only be accessed by voice.
That is all they specified.
HTH,


Richard
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On Oct 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah, agreed,

And that seems to be the big problem now is that most things have been done / 
created
So  they need to be designing / redesigning the products to better utilise the 
available services.

Such as how do they put the M1 in to an iPhone or Ipad not pro!

Get in to the fashion side of things like glasses along the lines of the bose 
frames,
But again these things have been done,
So they need to do it better

I for one would love a set of apple glasses if it gave me the same result / 
functionality as the frames I have.

And that’s only one thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 5:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

They did announce a new third generation set of Airpods and the new voice only 
Apple Music subscription, but yes, not exactly stuff for a Wow experience, but 
then again you can't expect them all that much any more with devices and 
services which are mature and which for the most part are not new inventions or 
ground-breaking new technologies.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: October 19, 2021 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: iPad Question?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yes, I don’t think I ever use containers when navigating on my phone, but I use 
them a lot for getting around the iPad.  Before I got in the habit of using 
them, I found the iPad navigation very cumbersome.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

And the dock is also its own container and as Richard said, especially on the 
iPad I think using containers is very important and necessary.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: Question about Phone pouch with card holder

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
A friend gave me a mini wallet made by Haiku, that made from recycled material, 
and is RFID scan proof and holds several cards, my ID, a Signature guide etc.  
It is 2.75 by 4 inches.
It has an elastic band that keeps it closed and I carry it in the shoulder bag 
my wife made for my phone, so it is easy to grab, not attached to the phone, 
etc.

https://www.appoutdoors.com/haiku_rfid_mini_wallet_2_0_hk177_c_p116337.htm?utm_source=bing_medium=cpc_campaign=Bing%20Shopping_term=4576992030645830_content=Bing%20Shopping

They have tons of stuff.   I think this one is around $12.50 and is probably 
also on Amazon...




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ioana 
Gandrabur
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:57 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Question about Phone pouch with card holder

Hello,

I am looking for a solution to carry a few cards with me without a big wallet. 
There is the apple wallet with magsafe, but I don't know that I want one that 
attaches to the phone.

I remember someone on the list mentioning a good phone pouch to clip on a belt 
that also had room for a few cards.

Do any of you have any suggestions? Did any of you use the apple wallet?

Thanks for your thoughts

Ioana 

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Question about Phone pouch with card holder

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello,

I am looking for a solution to carry a few cards with me without a big wallet. 
There is the apple wallet with magsafe, but I don't know that I want one that 
attaches to the phone.

I remember someone on the list mentioning a good phone pouch to clip on a belt 
that also had room for a few cards.

Do any of you have any suggestions? Did any of you use the apple wallet?

Thanks for your thoughts

Ioana 

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RE: Bird Identification App

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Pam,
A friend has been looking for a good bird ID app.
This one looks perfect.  Best of all, it is free.
In case anyone is having trouble finding it, here is the link:
‎Merlin Bird ID by Cornell Lab on the App Store 
(apple.com)





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bird Identification App

Hi,

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

Pam

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Re: Amazon

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi
Amazon is aware of this issue that many voiceover screen reader users are 
having. I spoke with them and they have several claims regarding the problem 
and have it flagged as an immediate problem so it will be fixed soon.

Feliciano
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On Oct 19, 2021, at 11:31 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

 Yes, I’ve had issues with viewing products on the app so I have alternatively 
been able to use the website itself from my laptop and being able to add them 
to my cart and then I use the mobile app to actually check out my items which 
seems to work but I think that Amazon accessibility should be notified of this 
if they aren’t already aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


For those experiencing Voiceover issues with the Amazon app or any other app, 
with the app running, engage the rotor until Screen recognition is announced 
and make sure it is off. I’ve found this corrected more than one app where 
Voiceover wasn’t saying much of anything when trying to swipe and I found 
Screen recognition was on and turning it off corrected the problem.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
stigile
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

Hi
Yes some are having iamssues and others are not.
Amazon is aware of it and they said it should be fixed by Friday.
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568



On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Mickey Quenzer 
mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello:
Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of the 
latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.
It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t do 
it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click on a 
specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.



*** MQ ***
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From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Amazon

Hi all.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.
I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon 
as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and 
reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks
Richard

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Re: Amazon

[CHELA Robles]

Yes, I’ve had issues with viewing products on the app so I have alternatively 
been able to use the website itself from my laptop and being able to add them 
to my cart and then I use the mobile app to actually check out my items which 
seems to work but I think that Amazon accessibility should be notified of this 
if they aren’t already aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> For those experiencing Voiceover issues with the Amazon app or any other app, 
> with the app running, engage the rotor until Screen recognition is announced 
> and make sure it is off. I’ve found this corrected more than one app where 
> Voiceover wasn’t saying much of anything when trying to swipe and I found 
> Screen recognition was on and turning it off corrected the problem.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> stigile
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
>  
> Hi
> Yes some are having iamssues and others are not.
> Amazon is aware of it and they said it should be fixed by Friday.
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello:
> Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of 
> the latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.
> It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t 
> do it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click 
> on a specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.
>  
>  
>  
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Amazon
>  
> Hi all.
> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
> gone.
> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
> Does anyone have any advice?
> Thanks
> Richard 
> 
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Re: Amazon

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing on 
their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon app 
for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
> gone.
> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
> Does anyone have any advice?
> Thanks
> Richard 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Amazon

[Alan Lemly]

For those experiencing Voiceover issues with the Amazon app or any other app, 
with the app running, engage the rotor until Screen recognition is announced 
and make sure it is off. I’ve found this corrected more than one app where 
Voiceover wasn’t saying much of anything when trying to swipe and I found 
Screen recognition was on and turning it off corrected the problem.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
stigile
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

 

Hi

Yes some are having iamssues and others are not.

Amazon is aware of it and they said it should be fixed by Friday.

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President

National Federation of the Blind of California

President San Fernando Valley Chapter

818-381-9568

 





On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Mickey Quenzer mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello:

Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of the 
latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.

It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t do 
it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click on a 
specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.

 

 

 

*** MQ ***

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From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Amazon 

 

Hi all.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.
I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon 
as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and 
reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks
Richard 

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RE: 7 little words

[Kathy Blackburn]

I have a subscription to the Android version, which used to work well on my 
BrailleNote Touch+. The Braille display could track what was going on the 
screen, and game play was fast and efficient. When the company changed to 
programming in Unity, that accessibility was broken. I wrote to them. We had a 
series of messages back and forth. Either they were trying to be certain they 
understood my answers, or English is not their first language. They made the 
game self-voicing, but the Braille display no longer tracks what's happening on 
the screen. I can play the game by turning KeySoft off, but all that swiping 
and tapping just feels fiddly. I won't be renewing my subscription, I don't 
think.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Oct 19, 2021 9:49 AM, Paula Jordan 
 wrote:
>
> Here's hoping that all these problems have been reported to the developers.  
> That's the best way to keep them informed and hopefully create change.  
> God bless! 
> Paula and the pups 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
> Bell 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:26 AM 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: 7 little words 
>
> just to thank everyone for their help with this app but I have now decided 
> that it is too much of a pain in the proverbial so have given it up.  once 
> again thank you to all Janet 
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Bird Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi,

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

Pam

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Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[regina alvarado]

Everything is the same on the phone that has no home button. The only thing 
that’s changed is that you use the side button on the right hand side to turn 
on voice over if it doesn’t come up when you begin to set it up. All the 
gestures are exactly the same except the ones Richard has so kindly pointed 
out. They iOS is the same. VoiceOver is the same. the only difference is that 
you swipe up from the bottom with the two little blips to go to home. If you 
hear three blips you are in the switcher if you go from the top you will find 
the notification Center and the control center I believe. I have not had much 
luck with going from the top so I set another gesture for that purpose. Going 
from the bottom and swiping up can be very uncomfortable at first so be very 
patient with yourself. Just keep practicing and it will become so second nature 
that you’ll be surprised you ever thought you needed a home button.  Even when 
I had the se I use the home button but I kept trying to use the swipe up. Now I 
have a 12 and it was like coming home. Believe me it is not as big a deal as 
you think it is.  It’s all the same except that you use the side button and the 
up-and-down button. Mostly you use the side button to speak with Siri and to 
turn on voice over if you have to . Remember also that you can ask Siri to turn 
on VoiceOver once you have the phone set up.  You will be fine.  It looks 
daunting but it’s not. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 I misheard your previous message. I thought it said flick right.
O well.



Richard
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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
> button.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Thanks Sieghard,
> Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a 
> home button and obviously needed editing.
> I discovered two things just now though.
> 
> When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
> button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins 
> the auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, 
> I have to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.
> 
> This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other 
> icons on that screen.
> 
> I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
> Shut down method.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:
> 
> *Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
> icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button. 
>  Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
> 
> On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which 
> is also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you 
> press and hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until 
> the power off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button 
> so make sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get 
> to "Power Off" before you double tap.
> 
> I find telling 
> SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
> of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown 
> button, but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me 
> reliably on the power off button if you do it this way.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
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Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

['Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone]

I am having the same problems others have mentioned here. It’s really hard not 
to be able to see what you are writing. I did use it yesterday, but I don’t 
like not being able to correct mistakes and knowing I just have to make them. I 
don’t use Twitter, so I’m not sure how to contact them. I looked, and basically 
there was no way to do this. I too did not see any way for a workaround.



Kristeen Hughes

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:04 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Allison, I absolutely am having problems with Duolingo! There is no work 
> around that I can find. It is very hard to get a hold of them. If anyone has 
> any idea how to get a hold of them I would deeply appreciate it. I am using 
> it, but it’s very difficult. Also, Amazon has broken. You can get two items 
> on a page that you ask for, but if you want to see the item and what it is 
> and get to the cart to put it in the cart you can’t do it. Someone told me 
> that this was an issue that is not because of voiceover but an issue that 
> Amazon broke the app for iPhone. However, I don’t think that’s the case.  I 
> can absolutely find no way to contact them. Wondering if anybody else has 
> been having trouble with Amazon also. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> 
> Oh good, it's not just me.
> I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
> annoying.
> Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
> I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
> They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.
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Re: Amazon

[Robert stigile]

Hi
Yes some are having iamssues and others are not.
Amazon is aware of it and they said it should be fixed by Friday.

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello:
> Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of 
> the latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.
> It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t 
> do it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click 
> on a specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.
> 
> 
> 
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Amazon
>  
> Hi all.
> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
> gone.
> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
> Does anyone have any advice?
> Thanks
> Richard 
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RE: Amazon

[Paula Mack]

I’m having the same issue, and the only workaround I can find other than using Aira or the Amazon Disability phone number is to locate the items I wish to purchase using the PC making sure to add each one to the cart. Once items are in the cart, you can check out either on the PC or with your phone. The cart area of the app seems to work as it always has. Regards,Paula Mack Sent from Mail for Windows From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhoneSent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:58 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Amazon Hi all.Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.Does anyone have any advice?ThanksRichard  Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C4705062-D9BF-42E7-938D-E7F11EB717C9%40googlemail.com. 



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Re: Amazon

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello:
Yes I am having exactly the same problem and don’t know if it’s because of the 
latest update. I don’t know who to report it to either.
It’s most disturbing as I was trying to actually order some things and can’t do 
it. I can look for things I can find the list of things but when I click on a 
specific thing no information is shown that’s my scenario.



*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:58:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Amazon

Hi all.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.
I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon 
as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and 
reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks
Richard

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Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[Richard Turner]

I misheard your previous message. I thought it said flick right.
O well.



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On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
button.


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Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
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Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter your 
passcode
*Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button
*Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button and 
Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button too 
long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
 *Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button
*Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the volume 
down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or until 
the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*Return to the Home screen: 

Amazon

['Richard Claridge' via VIPhone]

Hi all.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is gone.
I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as soon 
as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve deleted and 
reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks
Richard 

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RE: What is Exposé in iPad?

[Fazil]

Is it helpful in any ways for voiceover users?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Fazil, a Google search for "What is Exposé on iPad" gave me the following:

 

How to Use App Exposé in iPadOS 
 

 

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Hi, Group.

May I know What is Exposé in iPad Mini and what does it do, please?

Thanks!

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Re: What is Exposé in iPad?

[alia robinson]

thank you! 

I know the list  is here to help, and when people need it fantastic, but there 
is such a thing as google. before I bring any problem here I use it. 

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Fazil, a Google search for "What is Exposé on iPad" gave me the following:
>  
> How to Use App Exposé in iPadOS 
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RE: What is Exposé in iPad?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Fazil, a Google search for "What is Exposé on iPad" gave me the following:

How to Use App Exposé in 
iPadOS

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Hi, Group.
May I know What is Exposé in iPad Mini and what does it do, please?
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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

They did announce a new third generation set of Airpods and the new voice only 
Apple Music subscription, but yes, not exactly stuff for a Wow experience, but 
then again you can't expect them all that much any more with devices and 
services which are mature and which for the most part are not new inventions or 
ground-breaking new technologies.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: October 19, 2021 1:44 AM
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Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, I did listen to it now, not sure, but I think maybe the first 10 or 15 
minutes were about Apple Music and the new Airpods. These latest generation 3 
Airpods sound interesting, but I still don't like the very expensive price. On 
the one hand I'd love to try a set but then again I really don't know if I want 
to spend whatever the Canadian price will be, $179 US will most likely mean 
they are at least $249 here or maybe $259 to $279 Canadian, add to that our 
combined 12% taxes in British Columbia and it will be a $300 or just over $300 
set of earbuds. I have tons of points from my credit card and could easily buy 
a pair this way, but there is still something which makes me think not twice 
but thrice about spending that much on two little things I stick in my ear 
especially since I don't really like to stick things into my ear canal and 
probably wouldn't use them when I am going back and forth to my store every 
day. And there are so many other things I can spend money on! We just bought a 
new fridge and I'd love to get new kitchen cabinets and inf act I'd love to 
take our bedroom and combine it with a small one next door for a larger master 
bedroom and then to combine the third upstairs guest room with our living room 
and on my list of long-term plans goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

Sieghard,
I think you didn't see any messages about the presentation because it was 
boring.
That is, unless you are majorly into Mac computers, which I am not.
They actually did a comparison with what they called a high-end Compact PC to 
demonstrate the far better performance of the Mac laptop especially on battery 
life and overall speed and energy usage.
I heard no prices, but I was admittedly not giving it my whole attention.
I was just curious.
It sounds like the Siri Apple music subsccription can only be accessed by voice.
That is all they specified.
HTH,


Richard
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On Oct 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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Hi, Group.

May I know What is Exposé in iPad Mini and what does it do, please?

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
button.


-Original Message-
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Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
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-Original Message-
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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 

Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[regina alvarado]

Allison, I absolutely am having problems with Duolingo! There is no work around 
that I can find. It is very hard to get a hold of them. If anyone has any idea 
how to get a hold of them I would deeply appreciate it. I am using it, but it’s 
very difficult. Also, Amazon has broken. You can get two items on a page that 
you ask for, but if you want to see the item and what it is and get to the cart 
to put it in the cart you can’t do it. Someone told me that this was an issue 
that is not because of voiceover but an issue that Amazon broke the app for 
iPhone. However, I don’t think that’s the case.  I can absolutely find no way 
to contact them. Wondering if anybody else has been having trouble with Amazon 
also. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:

Oh good, it's not just me.
I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
annoying.
Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.

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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Fazil, go to Apple.com and listen to the announcement, most o the keynote was 
about Mac, but in a nutshell they mostly talked about a couple of new Mac Book 
Pro laptops with a new M1 Pro and M1 Max processor,, the new "Apple silicon" as 
rthey call it shows how they are moving away from Intel processors towards the 
processors designed in-house which apparently are quite innovative and 
powerful. I now listened to the event and even to the Mac part even though I 
use Windows, what they say is impressive, but what I noticed again and again is 
that these new Pro laptops are designed for professionals like people who work 
all the time with huge graphic files and video files, people who design games, 
do animation, fancy video editing and also music production. At one point Tim 
Cook even said that these are what all the "Pros" want or those "who simply 
want the best" or something along these lines. These are quite expensive 
laptops which in Canada will be probably around $3,000 to $4,000 and they are 
not what the average consumer will buy.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And you may be in a situation where you might not want to show somebody who is 
threatening you that you are about to call 9 1 1, e.g. you pull out your phone, 
you have to unlock it, you have to open the phone app, you most likely have to 
tap the dial pad since I rarely have it active using mostly the Recent Call or 
Favourites tab,  then you have to tap out 9 1 1 and tap Call.
In a true emergency you may also have difficulties doing all that calmly, e.g. 
what if you are trying to get out of your house or building when it's burning 
down around you?
Holding down the side button and one of the volume buttons is a pretty easy and 
straight forward proposition and most people could probably do it while running 
down a staircase.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

I honestly don’t want to get into a debate, but Apple provided this alternative 
method in case someone was in a situation where they couldn’t dial the number, 
so squeezing the buttons or tapping the button five times quickly is far faster 
than opening the phone app, selecting keypad and dialing 911.

I believe, and this is not confirmed, that releasing the buttons before the 
call is placed stops the call from happening, but if you truly want the 
authoritative answer, call Apple to confirm.
I’m not willing to accidentally call 911 to try and test this. .


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Why do it this way v. just typing 911 or whatever the digits are on the keypad?
Also, if you accidentally squeeze the buttons and then release them once you 
realize you are about to make a 911 call, will the release of the buttons stop 
the call?
My kid accidentally called 911 right after the home button went away and I had 
to show her that when you do that,, you just tell them it was an accident.

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

I appreciate this a lot.

On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:55, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification 

RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Richard Turner]

I honestly don’t want to get into a debate, but Apple provided this alternative 
method in case someone was in a situation where they couldn’t dial the number, 
so squeezing the buttons or tapping the button five times quickly is far faster 
than opening the phone app, selecting keypad and dialing 911.

I believe, and this is not confirmed, that releasing the buttons before the 
call is placed stops the call from happening, but if you truly want the 
authoritative answer, call Apple to confirm.
I’m not willing to accidentally call 911 to try and test this. .


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

Why do it this way v. just typing 911 or whatever the digits are on the keypad?
Also, if you accidentally squeeze the buttons and then release them once you 
realize you are about to make a 911 call, will the release of the buttons stop 
the call?
My kid accidentally called 911 right after the home button went away and I had 
to show her that when you do that,, you just tell them it was an accident.

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

I appreciate this a lot.

On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:55, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.

Stop sharing your location
When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location."

End a call
If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling.

If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the red 
end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.

Add emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the add button  to add an emergency 

RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Star Gazer]

Why do it this way v. just typing 911 or whatever the digits are on the keypad? 

Also, if you accidentally squeeze the buttons and then release them once you 
realize you are about to make a 911 call, will the release of the buttons stop 
the call? 

My kid accidentally called 911 right after the home button went away and I had 
to show her that when you do that,, you just tell them it was an accident. 

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

 

I appreciate this a lot. 





On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:55, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

 

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

 

 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

 

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

 

Here's how it works

When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance. 

 

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

 

Call emergency services

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:

Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.

Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

 

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:

Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.) 

Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.

After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

 

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.

 

Stop sharing your location

When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location." 

 

End a call

If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling. 

 

If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the red 
end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.

 

Add emergency contacts

Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .

Tap Medical ID.

Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.

Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.

Tap a contact, then add their relationship.

Tap Done to save your changes.

You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.

 

Remove emergency contacts

Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .

Tap Medical ID.

Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.

Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.

Tap Done to save your changes.

 

Turn off Auto Call

When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone begins 
a countdown and sounds an alert. After the countdown ends, your iPhone 
automatically calls emergency services.

 

Here's how to change the setting:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone.

Tap Emergency SOS.

Turn Auto Call on or off.

If you turn off this setting, you can still use the Emergency SOS slider to 
make a call.

 

Change how you call

On iPhone 8 or later, you can choose to call 

Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I appreciate this a lot. 

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:55, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
> instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating 
> my documentation but this is important information that everyone should have 
> handy.
>  
> Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076 
> 
>  
> With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
> emergency contacts.
>  
> Here's how it works
> When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
> emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
> service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
> fire, or ambulance. 
>  
> You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your 
> iPhone alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose 
> to cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of 
> time after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts 
> when your location changes.
>  
> Call emergency services
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
> Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
> Emergency SOS slider appears.
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
> hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, 
> a countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until 
> the countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
> Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
> will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
> your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.) 
> Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
> After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
> with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
> is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
> will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.
>  
> If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
> re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.
>  
> Stop sharing your location
> When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 
> hours for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop 
> Sharing Emergency Location." 
>  
> End a call
> If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
> release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
> Stop button, then tap Stop Calling. 
>  
> If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the 
> red end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.
>  
> Add emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
> Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
> You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.
>  
> Remove emergency contacts
> Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
> Tap Medical ID.
> Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
> Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.
> Tap Done to save your changes.
>  
> Turn off Auto Call
> When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone 
> begins a countdown and sounds an alert. After the countdown ends, your iPhone 
> automatically calls emergency services.
>  
> Here's how to change the setting:
> Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
> Tap Emergency SOS.
> Turn Auto Call on or off.
> If you turn off this setting, you can still use the Emergency SOS slider to 
> make a call.
>  
> Change how you call
> On iPhone 8 or later, you can choose to call by pressing the side button five 
> times. Here's how to change the setting:
> Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
> Tap Emergency SOS.
> Turn Call with Side Button on or off. Pressing and holding the side button 
> along with the Volume button will continue to work when this is on.
>  
> Set up other emergency features
> Use Emergency SOS on your Apple Watch: 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206983 
> 

FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts.

Here's how it works
When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance.

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes.

Call emergency services
Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later:
Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears.
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier:
Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.)
Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.
After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services.

Stop sharing your location
When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location."

End a call
If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling.

If you accidentally call emergency services, you can end the call. Tap the red 
end call icon, then confirm that you want to stop calling.

Add emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the add button  to add an emergency contact.
Tap a contact, then add their relationship.
Tap Done to save your changes.
You cannot set emergency services as an SOS contact.

Remove emergency contacts
Open the Health app and tap your profile picture .
Tap Medical ID.
Tap Edit, then scroll to Emergency Contacts.
Tap the delete button  next to a contact, then tap Delete.
Tap Done to save your changes.

Turn off Auto Call
When Auto Call is on and you try to make an emergency call, your iPhone begins 
a countdown and sounds an alert. After the countdown ends, your iPhone 
automatically calls emergency services.

Here's how to change the setting:
Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
Tap Emergency SOS.
Turn Auto Call on or off.
If you turn off this setting, you can still use the Emergency SOS slider to 
make a call.

Change how you call
On iPhone 8 or later, you can choose to call by pressing the side button five 
times. Here's how to change the setting:
Open the Settings app on your iPhone.
Tap Emergency SOS.
Turn Call with Side Button on or off. Pressing and holding the side button 
along with the Volume button will continue to work when this is on.

Set up other emergency features
Use Emergency SOS on your Apple Watch: 
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Set up your Medical 

RE: 7 little words

[Paula Jordan]

Here's hoping that all these problems have been reported to the developers.  
That's the best way to keep them informed and hopefully create change.  
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 7 little words

just to thank everyone for their help with this app but I have now decided that 
it is too much of a pain in the proverbial so have given it up.  once again 
thank you to all Janet

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 

Re: October 18 Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard,
I think you didn't see any messages about the presentation because it was 
boring.
That is, unless you are majorly into Mac computers, which I am not.
They actually did a comparison with what they called a high-end Compact PC to 
demonstrate the far better performance of the Mac laptop especially on battery 
life and overall speed and energy usage.
I heard no prices, but I was admittedly not giving it my whole attention.
I was just curious.
It sounds like the Siri Apple music subsccription can only be accessed by voice.
That is all they specified.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Oh good, it's not just me.
I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
annoying.
Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.

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Re: 7 little words

[Janet Bell]

Hi Alison just thought I'd let you know that I have given up on 7 little 
words.  despite what the people on the vi group said it just didn'tget 
any better so decided enough was enough.  Janet


On 19/10/2021 08:51, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

Is anyone else out there using Duo Lingo via their iPhone?
It updated yesterday and now I'm struggling to enter text. Has anyone else had 
this issue, and if so, is there a work-around?
Alison




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7 little words

[Janet Bell]

just to thank everyone for their help with this app but I have now 
decided that it is too much of a pain in the proverbial so have given it 
up.  once again thank you to all Janet


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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Quite a bit re the hardware,

The sound system on the 14 and 16 inch mbp’s sounds pretty empressive,

Can’t wait to have a look at the pricing.


Other than that I can’t really see what they needed a presentation for,

None of the music / airpods etc really seemed new.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:04 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil 
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What is new in Mac?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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Re: October 18 Apple Event

[CHELA Robles]

I'd check applevis.com they just put up a blog about it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:09 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is new in Mac?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: October 18 Apple Event
>  
> I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this 
> morning's Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few 
> headlines about new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI 
> integration with Apple Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple 
> Music in addition to the personal and family plans. This one apparently is 
> only $4.99 US a month and gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has 
> plus all their curated playlists, any idea how this is different from a 
> regular subscription? Does it mean you can't open the music app and find 
> music this way or maybe you can play anything, but can't add anything to your 
> library or download it?
>  
> The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
> Windows/PC user.
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>  
> Take care,
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RE: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[CJ & AA MAY]

Is anyone else out there using Duo Lingo via their iPhone?
It updated yesterday and now I'm struggling to enter text. Has anyone else had 
this issue, and if so, is there a work-around?
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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Fazil]

What is new in Mac?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: October 18 Apple Event

 

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

 

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.

 

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

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