RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Dennis Long]

Again suggest it they might be able to role it back to say phones with the a15 
chip.  Maybe not to but if we don’t ask we will never know.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the firmware on 
all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the next SE.


Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com  

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all 
iPhone 14 models have.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
CHELA Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce   > wrote:
> 
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until 
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is 
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> 
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> 
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which 
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in 
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini 
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > 
>> wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and 
>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during 
>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for 
>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, 
>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body 
>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>> 
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple 
>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one 
>> from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>> system and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when 
>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would 
>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of 
>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>> Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where 
>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>> 
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 
>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you 
>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added 
>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also 
>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite 
>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, 
>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's 
>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
>> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe so, but if it is an official accessibility feature which it seems to be 
and yet it's not even available on the iPhone 14 then the assumption that an 
A16 chip is required would be the logical explanation and hence it won't come 
to other phones until a few years from now when even the oldest phones have an 
A16 chip and the newest have advanced well beyond it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

You won't know if it can come to older phones if you don't suggest it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
 the iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
> part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
> Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
> Have a New Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
> New 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Dennis Long]

You won't know if it can come to older phones if you don't suggest it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
 the iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
> part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
> Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
> Have a New Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
> New Chime During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which 
> many blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting 
> the entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below.
> If you go to the original source link you can hear what the new 
> chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit 
> louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who 

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Good thing you won't get pregnant any more, you already reached your 
man-o-pause 50 years ago

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

Hi Sieghard,
You better get one of these new apple  watches to check your temperature  so 
you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. 
Mr. Ed
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that 
temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help 
women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it 
to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other 
body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
T
He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I 
currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be 
tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an 
impressive watch.

The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say 
it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone 
and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.
The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
and always-on display possible.
I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was 
going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that 
ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is 
only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada 
is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple 
Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it).
Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving 
with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may 
get help quicker.
As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.

Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro 
has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable 
time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS 
via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by 
satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages 
to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like 
Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text 
replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing 
your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in 
your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices 
have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be 
required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it 
that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have 
this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre 
for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or 
Globalstar.

Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
LiDAR feature.
As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't 
have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what 
Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon.
In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't 
refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their 
priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone 
although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright.

--
The 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the police had come you could have just told them your kid having a 
nightmare was a real emergency and now that they are here could they please 
deal with it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, 
so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I thought we 
had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having 
a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally 
called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time.  It 
would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the 
middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.So, there just must be 
something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button 
and volume down button at the same time.  

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: 

Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[William James]

If you can count past four, you should have it made! :-)

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
> can continue to do so. LOL
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
>> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>> 
>>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>> 
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>>> models over the years.
>>> 
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
 iPhone 14 pro max.
 
 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
> the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
> and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
> New
> Chime During Startup
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
> chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
> iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
> am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
> source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
> my
> PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
> earbuds
> or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
> 
> Original
> Source
> 
> 
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
> 
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
> sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
> accessibility
> features.
> 
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
> part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
> is
> not available for other iPhone models.
> 
> 
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
> [JAWS Certified,
> 2022]
> NVDA Certified Expert
> 
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

My guess is the chime would happen at the same time the sighted people see the 
apple symbol appear on their screen, but may be that is wishful thinking.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit your 
power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting things coming out 
in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is 
> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the 
> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going 
> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In 
> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>
> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
> models over the years.
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part 
>>> of the
>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>> Mini and
>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>
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>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have 
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
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>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>> New Chime During Startup
>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>>> 
>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a 
>>> chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
>>> blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
>>> entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
>>> go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
>>> sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
>>> than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
>>> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>
>>> Original
>>> Source>> h-detection-api/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>
>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. 
>>> More specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone 
>>> play a sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of 
>>> the iOS accessibility features.
>>>
>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime 
>>> is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why 
>>> this option is not available for other iPhone models.
>>>
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, 
so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I thought we 
had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having 
a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally 
called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time.  It 
would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the 
middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.So, there just must be 
something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button 
and volume down button at the same time.  

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds 

RE: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Thanks so much for alerting me to this.  On a whim, I checked on my Stream 
radio stations for Westwood.  And it came up with eleven results.  All of these 
seemed relevant, so I accepted all of them and will see if they are all giving 
me access to games.  I found tonight’s Rams and Bills game going on and 
listened to it. This is great! 

 

Marilyn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:49 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

 

>From TuneIn radio:

 


Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
you Primetime NFL games, free.

 

That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
NightFootball games all season long.

 



 

 

 

 

Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks, turning the phone completely off and back on worked with 
automatic lock and 1 minute and it is locked.


Margaret

On 9/8/2022 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock.
   I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment.
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, 

Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Richard Turner]

Of course, if you have SiriusXM, you won't want TuneIn for NFL because it won't 
give you everything.
If you want any broadcast radio not filtered by SiriusXM, TuneIn free even has 
a lot of choices.
I will keep TuneIn for a lot of things.
I will likely cancel SiriusXM after the before my free trial runs out on 
November 4 since tuneIn will have the Westwood 1 games.
R





Richard
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Sep 8, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> To be clear, TuneIn will carry the games that are broadcast by Westwood 1 
> sports. That usually means Thursday night, Sunday morning, afternoon, and 
> evening; one game in each time sllot, and Monday night games.
> If you want the rest of the NFL teams own broadcasts, you can pay for the NFL 
> plus, or Sirius XM.
> Those are your choices.
> I'm simply passing along information. I have no interest in paying for 
> everything since my team is broadcast on a local radio station and I can 
> either do the Westwood 1 games, or use the $1.99 GameDay pro football app and 
> through trial and error usually find a channel to listen to.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 4:16 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Ho does have the Sunday games?
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season
>>  
>> I would pay for premium if they had the Sunday games.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From TuneIn radio:
>>  
>> Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to 
>> bring you Primetime NFL games, free.
>>  
>> That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
>> NightFootball games all season long.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Richard Turner]

To be clear, TuneIn will carry the games that are broadcast by Westwood 1 
sports. That usually means Thursday night, Sunday morning, afternoon, and 
evening; one game in each time sllot, and Monday night games.
If you want the rest of the NFL teams own broadcasts, you can pay for the NFL 
plus, or Sirius XM.
Those are your choices.
I'm simply passing along information. I have no interest in paying for 
everything since my team is broadcast on a local radio station and I can either 
do the Westwood 1 games, or use the $1.99 GameDay pro football app and through 
trial and error usually find a channel to listen to.
HTH,





Richard
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Sep 8, 2022, at 4:16 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Ho does have the Sunday games?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season
>  
> I would pay for premium if they had the Sunday games.
> 
>  
>  
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> From TuneIn radio:
>  
> Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
> you Primetime NFL games, free.
>  
> That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
> NightFootball games all season long.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
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RE: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Christopher Chaltain]

Now that I have Sirius/XM, I think I prefer that over TuneIn.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

I would pay for premium if they had the Sunday games.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro


On Sep 8, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
From TuneIn radio:


Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
you Primetime NFL games, free.



That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
NightFootball games all season long.





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RE: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[llumpkin]

Ho does have the Sunday games?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

 

I would pay for premium if they had the Sunday games.

 

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro





On Sep 8, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

From TuneIn radio:

 


Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
you Primetime NFL games, free.

 

That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
NightFootball games all season long.

 



 

 

 

 

Richard

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Re: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Dennis Long]

I would pay for premium if they had the Sunday games.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 13 ProOn Sep 8, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:From TuneIn radio:Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring you Primetime NFL games, free. That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday NightFootball games all season long.Richard“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com



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RE: Forwarding attachments.

[Carolyn]

OK, will try that. 

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Subject: Re: Forwarding attachments.

If it's a text message, you got a double tap on the photo and select it. It's 
an email that you're trying to forward, tell her to include the attachments.



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Recently I had a message with photos, forwarded it, but the photos did 
not go. What should I have done, please?  

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Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Richard Turner]

>From TuneIn radio:

Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
you Primetime NFL games, free.
 
That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
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Re: Getting back to first conversation after pressing Hold and Accept.

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OK, this kind of gets tricky. But hopefully you can comprehend. There are two 
hold buttons. You wanna double tap on the one that says selected hold button. 
One is just telling you that the call is on hold.

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Yesterday, I was on a call, got another that I needed to take, pressed Hold 
> and Accept. After completing the second conversation, I tried pressing Hold 
> to get back to my first call, but did not get back. What do I do to come back 
> to a first conversation? Thanks. 
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Re: Forwarding attachments.

[joseph hudson]

If it's a text message, you got a double tap on the photo and select it. It's 
an email that you're trying to forward, tell her to include the attachments.

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:18 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> go. What should I have done, please?  
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RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Sieghard,

You better get one of these new apple  watches to check your temperature  so 
you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that 
temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help 
women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it 
to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other 
body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.

T

He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I 
currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be 
tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an 
impressive watch.

 

The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say 
it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone 
and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.

The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
and always-on display possible.

I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was 
going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that 
ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is 
only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada 
is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple 
Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it).

Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving 
with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may 
get help quicker.

As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.

Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.

Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.

 

Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro 
has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable 
time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS 
via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by 
satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages 
to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like 
Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text 
replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing 
your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in 
your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices 
have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be 
required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it 
that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have 
this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre 
for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or 
Globalstar.

 

Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
LiDAR feature. 

As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't 
have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what 
Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon.

In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't 
refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their 
priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone 
although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright.

 

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Mr. Ed]

Now folks don't pay too much attention to this old Sieghard as he is getting a 
lot older up there in Canada and you know how the cold effect people. Also with 
that old ugly snoot of his it's a wonder his face ID works at all. 藍 
Mr. Ed


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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
> someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  
> I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed 
> it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
> From: SoonerAnnie 
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
> up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
> times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
> getting very tempted 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Christopher Chaltain]

Feedback might help to ensure Apple includes this on all devices as they get 
the new chip, and I am always pro feedback, but I agree with Sieghard, that 
feedback won't help if this is hardware dependent, which it seems to be.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
 the iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
> part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
> Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
> Have a New Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
> New Chime During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which 
> many blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting 
> the entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below.
> If 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've never seen this myself, but I do use some apps, like the BARD Mobile App, 
where you can configure it to not lock the phone while you're in the app.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
  I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Margaret,
> 
> Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no 
> screen activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is 
> causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock.
> 
> Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
> minutes it will lock.
> I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
> manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Sieghard and All:
> 
> I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
> disable it.
> 
> I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
> powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it 
> locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off 
> when it isn't being used was saving the battery.
> 
> I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget 
> where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in 
> the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were 
> several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
> minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
> home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if 
> I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the 
> proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?
> 
> I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
> talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long 
> day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am 
> not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" 
>  since it went silent on me almost immediately.
> 
> All help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hello Margaret,
>>
>> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as 
>> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off 
>> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
>> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
>> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
>> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
>> settings.
>>
>> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
>> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it 
>> and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
>>
>> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
>> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
>> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and 

RE: Contacts

[Christopher Chaltain]

Also check the account you're using for your default contacts and when you're 
in the contacts app make sure you have the right groups selected.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

There are no text message contacts, what he referred to was the conversations 
in his Messages app

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Where are the text message contacts? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Jeffrey.


Thank you so much for doing the legwork and researching this annoying 
issue.  Your solution does indeed work.  I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro with 
iOS15.6.1 and the latest YouTube update.



Also, once VO is restarted a double-tap will start playing a video.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/8/2022 12:54 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hello,
This is a known bug. I discovered a workaround on Applevis while I was 
searching for a solution last night.
What you do is open YouTube. Then, turn voiceover off and swipe one finger down 
on the screen. And then when you  turn voiceover back on, scrolling through 
videos and pages on the home page and everything should work like before. You 
have to do this every time you open up the app from a fresh start. Kind of 
annoying, but at least it works.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:

Hey all,

I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they think 
you might enjoy looking at.
I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
Thanks,
Chris

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Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
This work around does work. I just tried it and I was able to scroll and 
activate videos as normal. 

Greg Wocher


> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> This is a known bug. I discovered a workaround on Applevis while I was 
> searching for a solution last night.
> What you do is open YouTube. Then, turn voiceover off and swipe one finger 
> down on the screen. And then when you  turn voiceover back on, scrolling 
> through videos and pages on the home page and everything should work like 
> before. You have to do this every time you open up the app from a fresh 
> start. Kind of annoying, but at least it works.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
>> screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they 
>> think you might enjoy looking at.
>> I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
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Forwarding attachments.

[Carolyn]

Recently I had a message with photos, forwarded it, but the
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RE: Contacts

[Carolyn]

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

There are no text message contacts, what he referred to was the conversations 
in his Messages app

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Where are the text message contacts? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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Getting back to first conversation after pressing Hold and Accept.

[Carolyn]

Yesterday, I was on a call, got another that I needed to
take, pressed Hold and Accept. After completing the second
conversation, I tried pressing Hold to get back to my first
call, but did not get back. What do I do to come back to a
first conversation? Thanks. 

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RE: Contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are no text message contacts, what he referred to was the conversations 
in his Messages app

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Where are the text message contacts? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

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礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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RE: Contacts

[Carolyn]

Where are the text message contacts? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Lynn Schneider]

Chris, glad to know someone else was having trouble With this update. I thought 
something had gone crazy with my phone, so I rebooted, deleted and reinstalled 
the app, but goofiness persisted. I can’t even open a video by double tapping 
on it except for hit or miss getting it to work. I will be leaving feedback 
letting them know there is a problem, and no, I will not use the word goofiness 
to describe it. L O L.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
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> Hey all,
> 
> I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
> screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they 
> think you might enjoy looking at.
> I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
> Thanks,
> Chris
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Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hello,
This is a known bug. I discovered a workaround on Applevis while I was 
searching for a solution last night.
What you do is open YouTube. Then, turn voiceover off and swipe one finger down 
on the screen. And then when you  turn voiceover back on, scrolling through 
videos and pages on the home page and everything should work like before. You 
have to do this every time you open up the app from a fresh start. Kind of 
annoying, but at least it works.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

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> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
> screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they 
> think you might enjoy looking at.
> I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
> Thanks,
> Chris
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

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Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you 

has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Chris Judd]

Hey all,

I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my 
home screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones 
that they think you might enjoy looking at.

I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you for confirming I was in the right place.  Still no luck.  I 
had trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before and 
maybe that's part of the problem.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:13 PM, davidmac1...@gmail.com wrote:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone.

Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness.
In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock.
Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch 
your iPhone.
Hope this helps.

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Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
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Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
  I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Margaret,
> 
> Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no 
> screen activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is 
> causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock.
> 
> Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
> minutes it will lock.
> I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
> manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Sieghard and All:
> 
> I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
> disable it.
> 
> I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
> powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it 
> locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off 
> when it isn't being used was saving the battery.
> 
> I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget 
> where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in 
> the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were 
> several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
> minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
> home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if 
> I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the 
> proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?
> 
> I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
> talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long 
> day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am 
> not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" 
>  since it went silent on me almost immediately.
> 
> All help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hello Margaret,
>>
>> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as 
>> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off 
>> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
>> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
>> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
>> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
>> settings.
>>
>> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
>> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it 
>> and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
>>
>> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
>> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
>> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone 
>> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked 
>> the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my 
>> phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the 
>> weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing 
>> online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart 
>> thermostats for my home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored 
>> alarm system at my business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell 
>> and cameras at home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am 
>> listening to an Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night 
>> before I go to sleep and so on. I never counted how often I 

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
 I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work 
with them before.  At least I can do a manual lock.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power 
off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this 
means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot 
it, you can simply count to 20 after  you tap on power off before you press and 
hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again.

z



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
 part of the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
 Mini and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of CHELA Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
 Have a New Chime During Startup


 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:
 From: David Goldfield
 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power 
off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this 
means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot 
it, you can simply count to 20 after  you tap on power off before you press and 
hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again.

z



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
 part of the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
 Mini and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of CHELA Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
 Have a New Chime During Startup


 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:
 From: David Goldfield
 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
 New Chime During Startup
 Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
 
 From the Tech-VI list owner:
 The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
 a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
 blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
 entire article I am pasting just the 

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume the same way as you would get to the status bar which is by touching 
near the top. But of course nobody really knows for sure especially from the 
perspective of a Voiceover user because nobody has tried it yet. This is new on 
the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max and with preorders starting tomorrow and phones 
starting to ship by next Friday it will be at least another 8 days before the 
first people who are going to preorder tomorrow will get their phones. I guess 
those who get one at an Apple store on Friday the 16th will be the first. In 
any case, this dynamic island as far as I can tell is basically a status bar on 
Steroids so just touching near the top where it is located should do the trick.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

Get me smart, how does one get to the dynamic island? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the 
other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging 
them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to 
switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp 
on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island 
to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for 
things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm 
doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to 
make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022.

On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the 
> iPhone
> 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option 
>> which all iPhone 14 models have.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
>>
>> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will 
>> forward the email I got.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
>>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available 
>>> until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, 
>>> which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>>>
>>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
>>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
>>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
>>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>>>
>>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, 
>>> which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network 
>>> in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 
>>> Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection 
 and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said 
 during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively 
 used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get 
 pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your 
 body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
 temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
 T
 He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
 diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
 the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
 dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.

 The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
 didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time 
 Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in 
 the one from the year before.
 The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new 
 camera system and always-on display possible.
 I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
 SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised 
 when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 

RE: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite has gone

[Star Gazer]

How? It isn't obvious to me. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 5:25 PM
To: davycupp...@gmail.com
Subject: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite 
has gone

Hi folks 

Please do update tot he latest ios messenger app, the annoying phrase spoken 
with each contact, added as favorite, has eventually been gone throug this 
update. 

I am very greatful for those who reported it tot he facebook accessibility.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Star Gazer]

Get me smart, how does one get to the dynamic island? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the 
other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging 
them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to 
switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp 
on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island 
to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for 
things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm 
doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to 
make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022.

On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the 
> iPhone
> 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option 
>> which all iPhone 14 models have.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
>>
>> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will 
>> forward the email I got.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
>>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available 
>>> until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, 
>>> which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>>>
>>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
>>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
>>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
>>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>>>
>>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, 
>>> which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network 
>>> in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 
>>> Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection 
 and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said 
 during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively 
 used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get 
 pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your 
 body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
 temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
 T
 He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
 diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
 the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
 dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.

 The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
 didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time 
 Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in 
 the one from the year before.
 The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new 
 camera system and always-on display possible.
 I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
 SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised 
 when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This 
 would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service 
 and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the 
 United States and Canada at that point.
 For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
 the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples 
 where it took a while for Canada to get it).
 Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
 are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
 never happen) you may get help quicker.
 As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 
 14 Plus.
 Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
 Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from 
 now on.

 Apart from that this is pretty 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
 part of the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
 Mini and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of CHELA Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
 Have a New Chime During Startup


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 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
 New Chime During Startup
 Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
 
 From the Tech-VI list owner:
 The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
 a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
 blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
 entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
 go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
 sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
 than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
 sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

 Original
 Source


 Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

 Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
 More
 specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a 
 sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS 
 accessibility features.

 Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the 
 chime is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is 
 probably why this option is not available for other iPhone models.


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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
 the iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
> part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
> Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
> Have a New Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
> New Chime During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which 
> many blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting 
> the entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below.
> If you go to the original source link you can hear what the new 
> chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit 
> louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source ash-detection-api/>
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> 

RE: Contacts

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for bailing me out again Sieghard.

I knew that, but it obviously slipped my mind when I replied.

 

Only one cup of coffee so far …

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

 

You can add contacts from the messages app, once you open a message tap on the 
phone number at the top, then either swipe right or touch the screen on the 
right near the top and find "Info". Just to be complete, if you swipe from the 
right you have first the phone number, then you have 4 buttons: Call, Video, 
Mail and Info.

Double tap on Info and then a bit further down on the screen you have the 
following options:

Create New Contact

Add to existing contact

Block this caller

If you select "Create new contact" the contact screen opens, enter the person's 
first and last name and whatever else you want to add, the phone number will 
already be there , but you may want to select a label, e.g. Mobile" since by 
default I believe it is just "Phone".

When you have finished tap "Done" at the top right of the screen.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Contacts

 

One would think that, but unless someone has written an app to do that, and 
I’ve never seen that, doing it manually is the only option.

You could contact Apple Accessibility to find out.  Either write to 
accessibil...@apple.com   or if in the US or 
Canada, call 877-204-3930.

ON their web site are other numbers for other countries.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Contacts

 

I would think that there is a way to do it that is more efficient since there 
are dozens and dozens of text contacts and as I said, I never noticed this 
before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

 

On Sep 8, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi,

Open the Contacts app.

 

Double tap the add button in the upper right corner, fill in the fields you 
want filled in.

Hit save or done in the upper right corner and repeat until all your contacts 
you want are in the contacts app.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Contacts

 

Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

 

On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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RE: Contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can add contacts from the messages app, once you open a message tap on the 
phone number at the top, then either swipe right or touch the screen on the 
right near the top and find "Info". Just to be complete, if you swipe from the 
right you have first the phone number, then you have 4 buttons: Call, Video, 
Mail and Info.
Double tap on Info and then a bit further down on the screen you have the 
following options:
Create New Contact
Add to existing contact
Block this caller
If you select "Create new contact" the contact screen opens, enter the person's 
first and last name and whatever else you want to add, the phone number will 
already be there , but you may want to select a label, e.g. Mobile" since by 
default I believe it is just "Phone".
When you have finished tap "Done" at the top right of the screen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Contacts

One would think that, but unless someone has written an app to do that, and 
I’ve never seen that, doing it manually is the only option.
You could contact Apple Accessibility to find out.  Either write to 
accessibil...@apple.com or if in the US or 
Canada, call 877-204-3930.
ON their web site are other numbers for other countries.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts

I would think that there is a way to do it that is more efficient since there 
are dozens and dozens of text contacts and as I said, I never noticed this 
before.
Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com

On Sep 8, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi,
Open the Contacts app.

Double tap the add button in the upper right corner, fill in the fields you 
want filled in.
Hit save or done in the upper right corner and repeat until all your contacts 
you want are in the contacts app.

HTH,


Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts

Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.
Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com


On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.
The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?
Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

If vibrate with sounds was on wouldn't that allow the device to vibrate 
along with the sound emitted?


If not it's disappointing because those who are deaf blind should have 
equal access to this as well.


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/8/2022 10:25 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
things coming out in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.

Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
models over the years.

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
iPhone 14 pro max.

On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
the
A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
and
13 Pro/Pro Max.
Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
CHELA
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
New
Chime During Startup


Sent from my iPhone

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Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
Chime
During Startup
Reply-To: tech...@groups.io

 From the Tech-VI list owner:
The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
chime
during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
iPhone
users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
am
pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
source
link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
my
PC
the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
earbuds
or
who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

Original
Source


Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
More
specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
sound
every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
accessibility
features.

Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
part
of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
is
not available for other iPhone models.


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RE: Contacts

[Richard Turner]

One would think that, but unless someone has written an app to do that, and 
I’ve never seen that, doing it manually is the only option.

You could contact Apple Accessibility to find out.  Either write to 
accessibil...@apple.com   or if in the US or 
Canada, call 877-204-3930.

ON their web site are other numbers for other countries.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts

 

I would think that there is a way to do it that is more efficient since there 
are dozens and dozens of text contacts and as I said, I never noticed this 
before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Sep 8, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi,

Open the Contacts app.

 

Double tap the add button in the upper right corner, fill in the fields you 
want filled in.

Hit save or done in the upper right corner and repeat until all your contacts 
you want are in the contacts app.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Contacts

 

Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 






On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Dennis Long]

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
 the iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
> part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
> Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
> Have a New Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
> New Chime During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which 
> many blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting 
> the entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. 
> If you go to the original source link you can hear what the new 
> chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit 
> louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source ash-detection-api/>
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a 
> sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS 
> accessibility features.
>
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the 
> chime is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is 
> probably why this option is not available for other iPhone models.
>
>
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Re: Contacts

[chaim biberfeld]

I would think that there is a way to do it that is more efficient since there 
are dozens and dozens of text contacts and as I said, I never noticed this 
before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Open the Contacts app.
>  
> Double tap the add button in the upper right corner, fill in the fields you 
> want filled in.
> Hit save or done in the upper right corner and repeat until all your contacts 
> you want are in the contacts app.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
> biberfeld
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Contacts
>  
> Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349
>  
> thegototherapist.com 
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.
> The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They 
> don’t get added to the contacts app automatically.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
> biberfeld
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Contacts
>  
> Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
> contacts and how I can mesh with them together?
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349
>  
> thegototherapist.com 
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RE: Contacts

[Richard Turner]

Hi,

Open the Contacts app.

 

Double tap the add button in the upper right corner, fill in the fields you 
want filled in.

Hit save or done in the upper right corner and repeat until all your contacts 
you want are in the contacts app.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts

 

Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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Re: Contacts

[chaim biberfeld]

Oh. How do I do that? I never noticed this before.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

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> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.
> The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They 
> don’t get added to the contacts app automatically.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
> biberfeld
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Contacts
>  
> Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
> contacts and how I can mesh with them together?
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I
use the evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a
choice, of a chime, vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have
my player set to the vibration because the start up chime is rather
louder then it really needs to be.  This is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
>> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
 iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part
> of
> the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
> and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
> New
> Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
> chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
> iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
> am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
> source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
> my
> PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
> earbuds
> or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
> sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
> accessibility
> features.
>
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime
> is
> part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
> is
> not available for other iPhone models.
>
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RE: Contacts

[Richard Turner]

Because you have not entered the text message contacts into your contacts app.

The Messages app is simply remembering people who you have texted.  They don’t 
get added to the contacts app automatically.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contacts

 

Hi. Any ideas why my phone contacts are not the same as my text message 
contacts and how I can mesh with them together?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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Re: A concern about iPhone 12 and battery

[Gerardo Corripio]

Have you looked under Battery/Condition? Remember I use my IPHone in spanish, 
but it’s wheer it tells you how degraded the battery is. Mine is two years and 
several months (having had it since July of 2020), and my battery is at 79% as 
we speak, but no problems so far: the charge continues to hold as always thank 
God! But I do plan and getting a new battery in it in the coming months, hoping 
to get two or max 3 more years out of. I’m so happy with it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 8 sep 2022, a la(s) 9:30 a.m., Kimberly Gardner 
>  escribió:
> 
> My iPhone is a few months older than yours and I just had the battery
> replaced. I had to call Apple tech support and have them run some
> diagnostics then they made an appointment for me at a nearby apple
> store to have the battery replaced. It cost something like $49 and now
> my battery life is much better. I did this because I was pretty sure I
> was not going to get a new phone this year and I'm glad I did. Hoping
> I can get another two years out of this phone.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Jim Portillo  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I have noticed lately that the battery on my iPhone 12 seems to hold a
>> charge for less period of time than before. I realize that I use my phone a
>> lot, but it seems as though I have to charge it much more than before. I
>> don’t use any new apps that would take up a lot of battery, and I close the
>> apps that I frequently use. Also, I noticed that there are more times these
>> days where my phone gets warm, we are as I don’t think I have noticed that
>> before. There are times when it actually gets hot.
>> Should I be concerned with more charges, and the battery going down faster
>> than before? Should I be concerned regarding the warmth or heat of my phone
>> at times?
>> My iPhone is right at two years old. I got it October, 2020. I definitely
>> qualify for an upgrade now, and I am wondering if this might be a sign to
>> look at something new.
>> I am going on vacation next week, and I want my phone to behave and keep a
>> battery charge for a while. I don’t want to go from 100% charge in the
>> morning to less than 30% charge f five or six hours later, when the phone is
>> hardly being used. This is not normal for me.
>> Any thoughts?
>> Jim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12!
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Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a
friend the other day and in the process of that there was a point
where I was messaging them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to
arrive, but I kept on having to switch between the 2 apps to check the
progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp on the main screen but then
being able to just slide my finger up to the island to get an at a
glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for
things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast
while I'm doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not
interesting enough to make a purchase though, especially given my new
SE2022.

On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the iPhone
> 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which
>> all iPhone 14 models have.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
>>
>> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward
>> the email I got.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
>>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until
>>> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is
>>> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>>>
>>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first
>>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to
>>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is
>>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>>>
>>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which
>>> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in
>>> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini
>>> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and
 the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during
 the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for
 cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant,
 they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body
 temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body
 temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
 T
 He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba
 diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to
 the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a
 dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.

 The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they
 didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple
 released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one
 from the year before.
 The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera
 system and always-on display possible.
 I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency
 SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when
 they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would
 indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of
 course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States
 and Canada at that point.
 For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always
 the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where
 it took a while for Canada to get it).
 Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you
 are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will
 never happen) you may get help quicker.
 As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14
 Plus.
 Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
 Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14
 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now
 on.

 Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13
 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you
 spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added
 peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also
 share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite
 figured out if you can 

Re: A concern about iPhone 12 and battery

[Kimberly Gardner]

My iPhone is a few months older than yours and I just had the battery
replaced. I had to call Apple tech support and have them run some
diagnostics then they made an appointment for me at a nearby apple
store to have the battery replaced. It cost something like $49 and now
my battery life is much better. I did this because I was pretty sure I
was not going to get a new phone this year and I'm glad I did. Hoping
I can get another two years out of this phone.

Kim

On 9/7/22, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> Greetings,
> I have noticed lately that the battery on my iPhone 12 seems to hold a
> charge for less period of time than before. I realize that I use my phone a
> lot, but it seems as though I have to charge it much more than before. I
> don’t use any new apps that would take up a lot of battery, and I close the
> apps that I frequently use. Also, I noticed that there are more times these
> days where my phone gets warm, we are as I don’t think I have noticed that
> before. There are times when it actually gets hot.
> Should I be concerned with more charges, and the battery going down faster
> than before? Should I be concerned regarding the warmth or heat of my phone
> at times?
> My iPhone is right at two years old. I got it October, 2020. I definitely
> qualify for an upgrade now, and I am wondering if this might be a sign to
> look at something new.
> I am going on vacation next week, and I want my phone to behave and keep a
> battery charge for a while. I don’t want to go from 100% charge in the
> morning to less than 30% charge f five or six hours later, when the phone is
> hardly being used. This is not normal for me.
> Any thoughts?
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12!
>
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Scott Davert]

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
 the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
 and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 CHELA
 Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
 New
 Chime During Startup


 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:
 From: David Goldfield
 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
 Chime
 During Startup
 Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
 
 From the Tech-VI list owner:
 The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
 chime
 during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
 iPhone
 users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
 am
 pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
 source
 link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
 my
 PC
 the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
 earbuds
 or
 who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

 Original
 Source


 Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

 Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
 More
 specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
 sound
 every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
 accessibility
 features.

 Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
 part
 of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
 is
 not available for other iPhone models.


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RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Christopher Chaltain]

I assume it’s a hardware change since they want to give you the chime before 
the operating system is loaded.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the firmware on 
all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the next SE.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com




On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all 
iPhone 14 models have.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce 
> mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> 
>> wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and
>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during
>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for
>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant,
>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body
>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body
>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba
>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to
>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a
>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>>
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they
>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple
>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one
>> from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera
>> system and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency
>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when
>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would
>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of
>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>> Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always
>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where
>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you
>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will
>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14
>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>>
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13
>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you
>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added
>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also
>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite
>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else,
>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's
>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires
>> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and
>> receive text replies from anybody and you don't 

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Christopher Chaltain]

It let's you know the iPhone is starting up, so you don't have to just hold the 
power button down and hope it's coming up or hope you're waiting long enough 
before you hear VoiceOver prompt is heard. It'll also help you set up your 
iPhone before you have VoiceOver working. You'll know when to triple press the 
power button.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

What is the chime supposed to do, just be like 
a "hey I'm alive now" indicator? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all 
iPhone 14 models have.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until 
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is 
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> 
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> 
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which 
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in 
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini 
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and 
>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during 
>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for 
>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, 
>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body 
>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>> 
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple 
>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one 
>> from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>> system and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when 
>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would 
>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of 
>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>> Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where 
>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>> 
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 
>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you 
>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added 
>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also 
>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite 
>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, 
>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's 
>> Inreach or a Zoleo 

Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Alan Lemly]

The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the iPhone 14 
Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which 
> all iPhone 14 models have.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
> 
> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
> email I got.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> 
>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until 
>> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is 
>> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>> 
>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>> 
>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which 
>> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in 
>> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini 
>> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
 On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and 
>>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during 
>>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for 
>>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, 
>>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body 
>>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
>>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>>> T
>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
>>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
>>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
>>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>>> 
>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
>>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple 
>>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one 
>>> from the year before.
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>>> system and always-on display possible.
>>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
>>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when 
>>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would 
>>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of 
>>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>>> Canada at that point.
>>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
>>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where 
>>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
>>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
>>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
>>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>>> 
>>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 
>>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you 
>>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added 
>>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also 
>>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite 
>>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, 
>>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's 
>>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
>>> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and 
>>> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big 
>>> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An 
>>> Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it 
>>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna 
>>> which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. 
>>> Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
>>> something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet 
>>> 

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Star Gazer]

What is the chime supposed to do, just be like 
a "hey I'm alive now" indicator? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all 
iPhone 14 models have.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until 
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is 
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> 
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> 
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which 
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in 
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini 
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and 
>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during 
>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for 
>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, 
>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body 
>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>> 
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple 
>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one 
>> from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>> system and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when 
>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would 
>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of 
>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>> Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where 
>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>> 
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 
>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you 
>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added 
>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also 
>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite 
>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, 
>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's 
>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
>> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and 
>> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big 
>> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An 
>> Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it 
>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna 
>> which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required.
>> Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
>> something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I 

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Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Devin Prater]

I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the
firmware on all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the
next SE.
Devin Prater
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which
> all iPhone 14 models have.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
>
> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward
> the email I got.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> >
> > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until
> > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is
> > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> >
> > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first
> > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to
> > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is
> > giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> >
> > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which
> > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in
> > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini
> > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and
> >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during
> >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for
> >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant,
> >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body
> >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body
> >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
> >> T
> >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba
> >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to
> >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a
> >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
> >>
> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they
> >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple
> >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one
> >> from the year before.
> >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera
> >> system and always-on display possible.
> >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency
> >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when
> >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would
> >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of
> >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States
> and Canada at that point.
> >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always
> >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where
> >> it took a while for Canada to get it).
> >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you
> >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will
> >> never happen) you may get help quicker.
> >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14
> Plus.
> >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
> >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14
> >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
> >>
> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13
> >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you
> >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added
> >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also
> >> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite
> >> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else,
> >> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's
> >> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires
> >> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and
> >> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big
> >> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An
> >> Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it
> >> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna
> >> which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required.
> >> Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again
> >> something new and innovative Apple 

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[chrisjudge1967]

Yes there is nothing in the 14 that excites me. I’m definitely going to treat 
myself to a new watch though as I’m still using a series 4.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: September 7, 2022 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!





On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that 
temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help 
women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it 
to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other 
body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.

T

He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I 
currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be 
tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an 
impressive watch.

 

The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say 
it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone 
and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.

The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
and always-on display possible.

I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was 
going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that 
ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is 
only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada 
is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple 
Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it).

Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving 
with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may 
get help quicker.

As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.

Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.

Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.

 

Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro 
has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable 
time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS 
via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by 
satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages 
to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like 
Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text 
replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing 
your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in 
your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices 
have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be 
required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it 
that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have 
this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre 
for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or 
Globalstar.

 

Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
LiDAR feature. 

As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't 
have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what 
Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon.

In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't 
refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their 
priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone 
although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright.

 

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RE: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite has gone

[Star Gazer]

Thank you for this. Anybody know why they added 
it in the first place? Annoying af 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a 
favorite has gone

Thanks man, I’ll definitely update my Messenger app. Yeah that is annoying for 
sure when Voiceover announces every chats and messages favourited.

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 5:25 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> Please do update tot he latest ios messenger app, the annoying phrase 
> spoken with each contact, added as favorite, has eventually been gone 
> throug this update.
> 
> I am very greatful for those who reported it tot he facebook accessibility.
> Regards
> Davy
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
things coming out in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>
> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
> models over the years.
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
>>> the
>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
>>> and
>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> CHELA
>>> Robles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
>>> New
>>> Chime During Startup
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> From: David Goldfield
>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
>>> Chime
>>> During Startup
>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>>> 
>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
>>> chime
>>> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
>>> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
>>> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
>>> source
>>> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my
>>> PC
>>> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
>>> earbuds
>>> or
>>> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>
>>> Original
>>> Source
>>>
>>>
>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>
>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
>>> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
>>> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
>>> accessibility
>>> features.
>>>
>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
>>> part
>>> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
>>> is
>>> not available for other iPhone models.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.

Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
models over the years.

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
> iPhone 14 pro max.
>
> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
>> the
>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
>> and
>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> CHELA
>> Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
>> New
>> Chime During Startup
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: David Goldfield
>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
>> Chime
>> During Startup
>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>> 
>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
>> chime
>> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
>> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
>> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original source
>> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my
>> PC
>> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds
>> or
>> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>
>> Original
>> Source
>>
>>
>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>
>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
>> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
>> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
>> accessibility
>> features.
>>
>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
>> part
>> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is
>> not available for other iPhone models.
>>
>>
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>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>> [JAWS Certified,
>> 2022]
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
iPhone 14 pro max.

On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS accessibility
> features.
>
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is
> not available for other iPhone models.
>
>
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
> [JAWS Certified,
> 2022]
> NVDA Certified Expert
>
> Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and
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