RE: I'm Liking Libby Audiobook Listening, Lots

[Cristobal Muñoz]

The only drawback I find in using the Libby app over say using Overdrive.com is 
that you can only do a search library by library instead of a general search in 
all your saved libraries like on the Overdrive website. But the same's true 
with the Overdrive app as well as with the CloudLibrary app so who knows it may 
be some sort of rights limitation or something. 
CloudLibrary's just as accessible as Libby with iOS so if you find your library 
system no longer partners with Overdrive for its digital content, it'll likely 
mean that they've switched to CloudLibrary. CloudLibrary's web experience is 
pretty bad, but thankfully the iOS app like I said is just as good as Libby.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 6:20 PM
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Subject: RE: I'm Liking Libby Audiobook Listening, Lots

Hello Mary,

I am so sorry for your Over Drive experience; yes, when Libby was first 
released, it was not ready for VoiceOver users.

However, I must say that the developers appear to be extremely committed to 
making all aspect of Libby VoiceOver accessible.

Links, Headings, and form controls can now be navigated  with VoiceOver.  Every 
button I  have come across is correctly labelled.

And, as for e-books, you can now have Libby automatically open any borrowed 
title in the Kindle app; and, as you doubtless are aware, Kindle is the 
proverbial gold standard when it comes to reading e-books, generally speaking.

So, I strongly suggest that you give Libby a try. I am positive that you will 
enjoy the experience.

Please let us know what you think, okay?  

Mark

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 5:32 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm Liking Libby Audiobook Listening, Lots

Hi Mark,
I haven’t tried either overdrive or Libby in a while. I ripped my hair out on 
both abs in the past more than once and totally decided to never use them 
again, because they were a pain in the butt. I was not interested and I am not 
interested in audiobooks on these apps. I was hoping to find e-books and maybe 
even get them onto Kindle. I never had any luck. Has the accessibility of the 
e-book side actually become reasonable and does not depend on any site and 
navigating of unlabeled buttons etc.?

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> On Jul 31, 2022, at 5:06 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> After reading several posts, here on the list, I decided to really 
> give Libby, the public library app for borrowing both audiobook and 
> e-books, a try.
> 
> Until this point, I've been a big fan of Over Drive.
> 
> Well, after forcing myself to delete the Over Drive app from all of my 
> devices, I must admit that Libby does seem to have more to offer for 
> those of us using VoiceOver.
> 
> The feature I like most about Libby is that now one's book location is 
> synchronized across all associated devices.  This behavior has long 
> been a feature of both Kindle and Audible.  Now, if only the BARD app 
> would add this feature .
> 
> I have contacted Libby tech support to see if there is a way to search 
> a libraries catalog via the book description field either instead of 
> or, in addition to, the book title field.  For example, I may want to 
> search a catalog for all books with the phrase and/or words, "lost at 
> sea," in the book description.  I hope this is possible.
> 
> One feature that I cannot seem to locate in Libby that was / is a part 
> of Over Drive is the ability to see titles similar  to any given 
> title, currently in focus.
> 
> For example, If I have the book, The Davinci Code" in focus, I would 
> like to see similar titles listed, as well.  In Over Drive, six 
> similar titles were always displayed with any book in focus.
> 
> Just as an FYI, I received a notice, yesterday, that Over Drive will 
> be discontinued in 2023 so the developers are strongly recommending 
> that everyone switch to Libby.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

For what it's worth, I find the Libby app easier to navigate than the Overdrive 
app. The audiobooks can be played at 3X speed instead of the 2X in Overdrive 
which is a plus as well. 
All the whish list and holds stuff is tied to your library account not to the 
app. So when you log into Libby or CloudLibrary for that matter, your lists 
will appear there as well.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

I use Libby all the time for audiobooks and I find it much much easier than 
overdrive ever was. As for migrating your wish list I don’t know if that can be 
done.

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” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Jul 22, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> So other than ebooks, is the libby app as easy to use and to navigate as the 
> overdrive app?  
> Also, I have several books in my overdrive wish list. Is it possible to 
> migrate this list over to the libby app, or would I have to add each book to 
> the libby wish list individually?  
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> DRM's got nothing to do with that. As far as Voiceover reading the text, I 
>> found that accessible. It was the navigating chapters and continuous reading 
>> to be wonky. Then again, that was just my experience. Perhaps someone who 
>> was more determined to figure it out can chime in.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?
>> 
>> I couldn’t read an e-book in the Libby app at all, unless I opened it as a 
>> kindle book. You also have the option of EPUB but I didn’t try that because 
>> it indicated that it had DRM protection and I wasn’t sure that would work 
>> with voiceover. Libby works great for audiobooks and that’s what I mostly 
>> use it for. But you can’t beat Kindle for e-books in my opinion. 
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
>> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>> 
 On Jul 11, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Cristobal Munoz  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Overdrive app for iOS is going to be phased out for Libby. I’ve mainly 
>>> use Libby for audiobooks. The audiobook experience is completely 
>>> accessible. Playback can go as fast as 3X. I tried reading one e-book in 
>>> the same app. It wasn’t really intuitive and I really couldn’t get around 
>>> it well enough, but I didn’t really stick with it enough to try figuring it 
>>> out. As someone else mentioned though, you have the option to open e-books 
>>> in the Kindle app as well though. Not saying that the Libby app isn’t 
>>> accessible, but I just didn’t have time or the desire to try to figure it 
>>> out with that book.
>>> All in all though, the Libby app is pretty much voiceover accessible. I 
>>> have six library systems connected to it.
>>> Another app you can consider is CloudLibrary. Some library systems use 
>>> Libby and others cloud library.
>>> 
> On Jul 10, 2022, at 8:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Dan,
 
 The app I use for reading titles from the public library is Over Drive.  
 Essentially, it is an older version of Libby, made by the same developer.  
 Give it a try.
 
 Mark
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 1:16 PM
 To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
 Subject: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?
 
 I have installed it and I thought I remembered some folks talking about 
 using it with VO.  I have opened a book but I can't figure out how to read 
 the book at all.  I see lots of controls but not text.  Oh yes, it is an 
 ebook.
 
 
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RE: ring, blink, or something altogether different

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed. We installed our Ring Video Pro four years or so ago and haven’t messed 
with it since. 

Regardless of which system you pick though, I think you’ll end up having the 
same issue. In large part, people just don’t’ really hang around after ringing 
the doorbell now a days since most things are so home delivery driven. Quick 
tuck and roll and poof. Gone like a fart in the wind. 

All in all, I at least have found the Ring to be less useful than I thought it 
would be. Not useless, but just not as useful. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ring, blink, or something altogether different

 

The Ring Pro has to be wired as does Nest.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net  
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: ring, blink, or something altogether different

 

I am looking in to that as well.  I would like to find one that can be wired in 
rather than depending on batteries.  The issue with battery operated devices is 
that some of them involve unscrewing little screws to get tat the batteries.  
Because of medical issues with my hands, I am not able to do that task 
independently, and it might be a couple days before I find someone who can 
help.  

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: ring, blink, or something altogether different

 

Why don’t you look into good old fashioned intercom systems?

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net  
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 5:07 PM
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Subject: ring, blink, or something altogether different

 

I am looking for a two way intercom/doorbell system that is wired.  I really 
could care less about the video.  Here is what I need it to do.  When someone 
rings my doorbell, Ineed to hear the ring on my phone alexa, indoor speaker or 
whatever.  I then need to be able to talk to the person who rang my bell to 
find out if I want to let them in.  I would like the system to be wired so I 
don’t have to deal with changing batteries.  I thought blink app was my answer. 
 However, I have never been able to hear the doorbell on either my phone or 
alexa.  Spoke with both amazon and blink tech suport and am quite discouraged.  
According to them, I have to enable video and will then only get a visual 
notification (picture) of someone at my door.  Can anyone suggest something 
that will work for me?  Or, if you know that blink is accessible, can u help me 
make it work?  Thanks.  

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Obviously… it was meant in jest. Chillax people.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 9:35 PM
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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Not everybody may have a sighted spouse, however.

I do have one, but if I were to follow that logic I could just say that is what 
my sighted employees are for when it comes to reading stuff to me, helping me 
with whatever etc. Of course not everybody is in a position where he or she has 
between 2 and 4 sighted employees nearby between 9 AM and 6 PM.

 

 

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

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Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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Subject: Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
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Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hey man… that’s what sighted spouses are for. Earn your keep sweety and start 
tagging people as you see them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible 
security system

 

Just don’t totally rely on what the Nest app says is correct, it works, but 
there are times when it mixes up people. You also have to tell the app first 
who is who.

 

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Cristobel:

 

That sounds cool.  I hadn’t heard of that feature  with the nest.  A great 
advancement for the blind community. 

 

Keep us updated.

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RE: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Cristobal Muñoz]

What I will say is when my Ring gives up the ghost, I’ll next be buying a video 
doorbell and cameras with facial recognition capability. I believe Google nest 
doorbells and cameras have this capability. I’ve read that Ring may be offering 
this in a future software or product update, but we’ll see. I know there are 
all sorts of privacy concerns with big brother and all that noise, but big 
brother be damned. Video doorbell and motion detection alerts are nice, but 
what good are they for us if that’s the only feedback we the blind get? 

At least with facial recognition,, you can built up your database  of people 
who may trigger your motion sensor. Neighbor cutting their grass. The FedEx guy 
dropping off a delivery. The bratty ass kid from the corner house playing 
ding-dong ditch etc.

 

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The Amazon Ring doorbell is what you might like.

 

If you have an Alexa with a screen, you can see who is at your door quicker 
than bringing up the app on your phone, and you can talk to the person at the 
door through your Alexa  device, or your phone app.  To talk to the person 
through the Alexa device, just say ‘Alexa, talk to the back door, or whatever 
you name the door.  To see the person, if you have a Alexa with a screen, just 
say, Alexa, show me the front door, or whatever you name the door.

 

With the Ring app on the phone, you can see the video of who is at your door 
and also talk to them through your phone app, if you are away from home, or not 
near your Alexa.

 

 

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RE: recommendations for accessible kitchen scales and cooking thermometers

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I've been using the drop scale 
https://www.amazon.com/Drop-Scale-Connected-Step-Step/dp/B00TTY34KG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=18IP048LO8JAV&keywords=drop+scale&qid=1648004603&sprefix=dropscale%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-1
  for the past four years. It measures to the gram. It's completely accessible 
or at least for what I use it for. I don't really use it for the recipe aspect. 
Just the scale part. I roast my own coffee beans and make my own coffee. So 
weighing out the beans for grinding and water for brewing for Pour-over, 
Aeropress, iced coffee Frenchpress, accuracy to the gram is  necessary to be 
able to replicate a good brew. I mean, I use it for other stuff in the kitchen, 
but I'm the coffee guy in the house. My wife will go on a rampage if she 
doesn't have her daily coffee. 
The company still puts out regular app updates and they've even reached out to 
me in the past when I've written them about an accessibility hiccup here or 
there with an update. The other day, I was wiping down the counter and knocked 
it on the floor and it's still working. Connectivity is pretty quick and 
VoiceOver reads out the weight in realtime as it fluctuates when you're adding 
or subtracting whatever it is you're weighing when it's focused on that field. 
All in all, a very good product. When I bought it, it was closer to $60, but 
looks like it's $30 now. An even better deal.
I do have a talking thermometer  that can measure up to 500º Fahrenheit but 
can't remember the name of the company right now. That one is a straight up 
talking device. No iOS app or anything. It looks like there are a few options 
to choose from on Amazon though.

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hello,
What recommendations do folks have for kitchen scales and cooking thermometers? 
I would also appreciate learning of recommended sources for these.
Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Don’t bother with Fluent Forever. The app’s not VoiceOver accessible and they 
showed no interest in trying to make it so when I reached out to   them during 
my trial period. 

Another good language learning tool is a good flashcard app. The best one I 
ever used was called Flashcards++. Unfortunately, the developer seems to have 
abandoned it. It was completely accessible and had all sorts of features. I 
have yet to come across another flashcard app that can replicate that user 
experience. Both in VoiceOver accessibility and user functionality. 

If anyone can recommend a really good flashcard app be it free or paid, I’m all 
ears.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

 

Try Duolingo you can use it on the web duolingo.com or on the appstore you can 
find it and it's very accessible and has the languages you are interested in. I 
love the app and I use it on a regular basis it’s like playing a game except 
you’re learning a lot.

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 10, 2022, at 3:21 PM, May Anderson mailto:m...@canadianlynx.ca> > wrote:

Oo, I would like this information as well.

 

May, LD Wren and the little humans, Jay and Kal

On Mar 10, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Terri Stimmel mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hello everyone,


I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.


Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a new 
language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and maybe one 
other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I just really want 
to try it, rather or not it works out.


I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.

Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. But I 
would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if possible.


What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

[Cristobal Muñoz]

They do have a phone number on their contact page:   
315-329-6792 I’ve called them before and they do answer. I’ve also contacted 
them on Twitter direct message (we follow each other) and they respond there as 
well. 

Good luck

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

 

I am not finding any way to contact Aftershokz via email.

 

Does anyone have an email address or do they only chat?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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RE: AfterShokz headset question

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

 

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

 

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker for me. 
Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out to be a 
pain in the butt.

Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if you 
are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band on 
my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did not 
need to try to alter it. 

 

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It is at 
the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The boom arm 
also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise cancellation 
functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in 
a loud or noisy environment. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


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Richard,

 

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexi

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yes, I did all this on my own and while on the phone with Apple Accessibility. 
Again, the Apple guy looked it up and noted that it was a known bug. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that 
a sound is selected for each of your accounts?

Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected 
and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.

For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I 
had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all 
coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in 
mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus 
options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on 
notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.

I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".

When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m 
using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and 
they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 
15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't 
getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my 
business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one 
phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release 
addressing it. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure 
my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email 
sound I have set for my personal account.

I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in 
Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent 
myself another message with the subject "Another Test".

When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, 
Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually 
write anything in the message body.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the 
AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. 
I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at 
least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my 
case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime 
annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in 
iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings 
like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed.

I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and 
explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not 
much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. 

Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact 
them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if 
you’re experiencing this too. 

If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come 
in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. 
Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set 
to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. 

Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.

 

 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have 
an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have 
no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed 
the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app 
you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover 
Settings > Motion

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not 
to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get 
the new phone that is labeled as Pro Ma

Looking for recommendations for a tripod that can hold an iPhone XR

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello List,

As the subject line states, I’m looking for a tripod that can hold my XR. I
do have a tripod that in a  pinch can do the job, but I got that for my old
SE back in the day. This now means that my XR is a bit too top-heavy to
reliably use it.

If anyone’s using a tripod that can comfortably hold an XR or the bigger
iPhone models, I’d appreciate your input. Don’t need something like a
selfi-stick or any sort of Bluetooth connectivity. Just something to
securely hold a larger iPhone to FaceTime and whatnot.

Thanks

 

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RE: how is the overdrive user experience with voiceover?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I was referring to the Overdrive app. I tried Libby a while ago and at least 
back then, it was a complete no go with VoiceOver. 
There's another library service called Cloud Library that some library systems 
partner with. My experience with the desktop app and Jaws is that it's 
completely inaccessible, but the iPhone app is actually pretty good and 
completely accessible. Their app even lets you play back at 3X speed.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 4:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how is the overdrive user experience with voiceover?

I'm curious, are we talking about the Overdrive app or the Libby app? 
Everything I read points me to the Libby app, but I still see the Overdrive app 
in the App Store.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how is the overdrive user experience with voiceover?

ON iPhone, it's pretty good now. I can't speak as to eBooks, but  the audiobook 
user experience is solid now.
There are two features that at least in my opinion would make it even better. 
The ability to have the playback speed more than the current 2X max and when 
searching for something, to be able to search all the library systems you're a 
member of at one time. On overdrive.com, this is how it works For those of us 
who have multiple library cards, it's a big time help. On the app, you can only 
search one library system at a time. This would of course not be relevant if 
you're a member to just one library system though. As far as the other stuff, 
searching, browsing, checking out a title, adding a library system are all 
accessible with VO. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how is the overdrive user experience with voiceover?

I have used Overdrive for quite some time and find it quirky but not too 
difficult. However, I just tried setting it up on a new iPad and can not find a 
way to connect to my library. The screen with choices has buttons with no 
readable text. I have not yet tried using the screen recognition on the app but 
intend to give it a go.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how is the overdrive user experience with voiceover?

hi,
It has been several years since I have tried using overdrive. Back then, it was 
doable but challenging.

I am thinking of trying to use overdrive again. What is the current user 
experience of overdrive with voiceover? I would appreciate learning of any 
comments, positive or negative.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: WWDC

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Shhh… Don’t jinx it.

The one thing I’m actually looking forward to is the SharePlay feature. 
Especially since a lot of the big streaming services appear to be onboard. Not 
that my sighted wife or family/friends for that matter would ever say anything 
or complain, but hopefully with SharePlay, it’ll be a lot more convenient to 
watch and enjoy something with others for those of us who need or want the 
audio described track by simply slipping on a pare of headphones.

It’s been something I’ve always written to Apple Accessibility and feedback 
about with every major iOS release since I don’t know when. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WWDC

 

I am really surprised to come home tonight and to find virtually nothing about 
today's WWDC keynote. I guess the good old days are over when the Viphone list 
had 200 messages on a day when Apple delivered a keynote.

 

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RE: Bose frames

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I wear tinted glasses when out and about sometimes to keep the wind and or dust 
out of my eyes and being blind, I and I'm guessing others may have the same 
experience where you get tired of keeping your eyes open and you're just more 
comfortable sometimes with your eyes closed depending on the situation or 
circumstance and don’t' want to be bothered with questions on whether you're 
awake or if something's wrong etc.
While I'm mildly intrigued with these Bose frames, I too prefer the Aftershokz 
concept and keeping my ears open and unobstructed. That and I've got a big 
noggin. So the frames would probably be a tight fit for me anyway.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

They are sunglasses which have speakers and microphones built into the arms or 
whatever you call these things which go from the frame around the lenses to 
your ear.
Personally I wouldn't be interested simply because I am completely blind and I 
don't see the need for wearing glasses, I'd much rather use the Aftershokz if I 
want audio which doesn't cover my ears.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ibraheem 
Fakir
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

How do these stack up  against the aftershocks product line?

Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2021, at 8:43 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Can you all say open ear surroundsound baby? Yeah! :-) LOL! You know one 
> time I was watching a audio description of a scene or a TV show rather, and 
> the audio describer sounded so close and it sounded really nearby and it kind 
> of freaked me out but it was good it left me on the edge of my seat because 
> well, It must have been a very intense scene! Those Bose frames tempos are 
> amazing I highly recommend them if I don’t recommend them enough already!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 29, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with chella I have had mine now since February.
>> I use them with Aira to help me with my bowling practice. the thing I found 
>> awesome is how they sound while watching a movie.
>> - Original Message - From: "CHELA Robles" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> 
>> Hello technically the tempos have what you specified that you were 
>> looking for as far as the microphone microphones are really great and 
>> I have to disagree on the sensor thing because the sensors are also 
>> present here to the S they may not be mentioned in the specs but 
>> that’s also there as well they’re heavily constructed I love my pair 
>> and the battery lasts a whole lot longer I like the cable that it 
>> came with it’s a regular USB see cable not the magnet type. The audio 
>> is much clearer and you can totally hear your surroundings and I have 
>> to agree I do love the polarized lenses as well. If you have any 
>> questions feel free to email me off list my email is 
>> cdrobles...@gmail.com Chela Robles
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Beverly Wieland  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen 
>>> to GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The 
>>> open ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>>> 
>>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I 
>>> noticed that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the 
>>> newer models:
>>> Integrated microphone
>>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>>> 
>>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
>>> the phone?
>>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in 
>>> general or for me as a blind user?
>>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>>> subject.
>>> Beverly Wieland
>>> bwiel...@udel.edu
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RE: Overcast revisited again

[Cristobal Muñoz]

My experience is that they sync automatically when logged in with my account. 
Indeed, everything syncs even when listening to podcasts via the web browser 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:22 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Overcast revisited again

Hi, I have Overcast as my podcast app. I have a lot of podcasts on my iPhone. 
How do I sync them to my iPad? Thanks for any help with this. I find no sync 
button either in Overcast on my iPhone or iPad.


Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Don't throw your shoulder out there patting yourself on the back. 
Missing the point.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

I guess some people don't like the truth!

Oh well!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ed...@cox.net
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 2:53 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

Lol!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Stuff it!


Maria Campbell
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All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Yeah cheap,
>
> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>
> It's not about being cheap,
> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
> clutter our lives with,
>
> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
> were made for,
>
> So if you have one already,
> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>
> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
> much,
>
> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
> virus and millions dying,
>
> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out of 
> a box.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
>
> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or 
>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have 
>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just 
>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see 
>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly 
>> break the bank.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under 
>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>>
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all 
>>> the chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>>
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>>
>>>  From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have 
>>> to remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple 
>>> has dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and 
>>> stuff how ever you have to remember that the mane objective for 
>>> apple is to make more money. From Mich.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone

RE: Apple getting cheap

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an 
iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely 
merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from 
manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the 
difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not like 
they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still buy one 
from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the edges, get some 
good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that 
holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company . 
But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the 
actual point.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Stuff it!


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Yeah cheap,
>
> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>
> It's not about being cheap,
> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
> clutter our lives with,
>
> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
> were made for,
>
> So if you have one already,
> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>
> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
> much,
>
> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
> virus and millions dying,
>
> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out of 
> a box.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
>
> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or 
>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have 
>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just 
>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see 
>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly 
>> break the bank.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under 
>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>>
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all 
>>> the chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>>
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>>
>>>  From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have 
>

RE: Masks & Face ID

[Cristobal Muñoz]

“It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,”

Exactly the point. An outlier is just that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

 

It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

 

We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that 
we have little if not any current cases of covid,

 

It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
virus,

 

It’s like the saying,

Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,

 

 

May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do 
more to keep you safe from this virus,

 

Plus we only have 5 million population,

And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

 

It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

 

But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus 
out.

 

May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys 

Have treated this globle situation,

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Marco Curralejo
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

 

I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a 
ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
get on to the list.

 

That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

 

Marco

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

 

Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
list. That's all I have to say on this topic.

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

Why do you need to wear face masks?

I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
we've dealt with face masks,

 Don't even know anyone that has worn one,

Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so the 
necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon.

Kelly



On 3/12/21, Maria Reyes mailto:sassyblindg...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> yeah it'll be interesting to see how that new feature works.
>
> want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom 
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>   with 
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>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Wendy Lin >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hi All,
>>
>> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 
>> 9to5 Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock 
>> your phone if you have an Apple Watch.
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty >>  >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id 
>>> settings,
>>>
>>> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>>>
>>> If you have two faces that is.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>
>>> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 
>>> will allow for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, 
>>> but those who have a phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site, www

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I mean... I just downloaded it from the app store. Probably back when the WIFI 
model came out and it was uncertain whether the Bluetooth model was going to 
continue to be supported etc. I just did a search in the app store and it comes 
up as the second or third result with like a 2 star rating. Not exactly 
encouraging as a simple user experience. 
Again though, as the smart cooker app kept going strong, I didn't bother 
playing with it as at that time, the app was really bad with VO from what 
everyone was saying. Again, I could simply be misremembering, but I could swear 
folks talking about how the Bluetooth model could also connect to this app 
somehow. 
This unfortunately will probably be the experience for all devices that depend 
on some sort of connectivity or app. The pressure cooker itself will probably 
last for many years to come, but how does that help us if the accessibility 
feature we specifically bought it for breaks because it's deemed no longer 
worth maintaining. 
Maybe someone can poke around on the IP site to get a definitive answer on this 
or play with their Bluetooth model, but I'm unfortunately in the middle of my 
work day and have already farted around enough online and don't really have 
time to do it myself.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
> how that could possibly work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
>> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it says 
you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it doesn't 
mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on this and 
other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much attention to it 
since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
how that could possibly work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
> 
> Shannon
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to the 
wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always worked, 
but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those who have a 
Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shannon 
Dyer
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.

Shannon

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
> the developers and to iOS.
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RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello Richard,

If only it were that simple. This CNet articles gives a quick breakdown on what 
one would need to make a “dumb” bike smarter: 
https://www.cnet.com/health/diy-peloton-bike-how-to-build-your-own-smart-cycle/

There are gadgets that measure power output and that can measure distance along 
with heart rate, but as always the question for us is what’s accessible. 

Simon’s response was helpful in letting me know that Wahoo’s platform and 
products are more or less accessible for example. 

One can go all out to try to replicate the Peloton experience, but I just 
really want access to my workout stats. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

 

I would think that the phone in your pocket would track your steps if you 
enabled that in the health app, or a pedometer app. 

And, doesn't the Fitbit track heart rate if you do not want the Apple Watch?

Just some thoughts.

 

Richard

 

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On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Cristobal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list,

So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.

I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next upgrade 
instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort of app or 
firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.

Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike 
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring heart 
rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no desire to 
get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate monitor. My 
understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to get connected, 
but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS app/service?

Thanks,

Cristobal

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RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Thank you for this. My bike’s one of those magnetic resistance deals. There’s 
no back wheel and the front is encased in some sort of housing, but this gives 
me an idea of what to look for and know that at least Wahoo’s platform is 
accessible.

 

 

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Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart 
exercise bike

 

Cristobal

 

 

I got my self a wahoo fitness HR monitor 

I can’t remember the model but it works great with the Wahoo fitness app on my 
phone or an iPod touch,

 

To ad to this I got a Wahoo cadiance and speed monitor which has three parts,

 

The main body with the sensors 

Attaches to the main bike frame,

On the bottom bar of the back wheel support,

So it can pick up both the rear wheel spinning an the pedal going around,

 

There is a little rubber band thing with a sensor device in it that goes on the 
pedal arm,

 

And another little sensor that attaches to the spokes of the back wheel that 
then like the sensor on the pedal arm gets picked up by the main wahoo sensor 
that is on the bottom wheel arm 9bracket),

 

This uses Bluetooth 4 in my devices case to connect to the wahoo fitness app on 
my phone or ipod touch and picks up how fast the back when is spinning,

And also how fast you are pedalling.

 

These feed in to the app and together you can get a pretty good view of your 
workout data,

 

The app does take some getting use to and I would advise playing around with it 
to setup the appropriate workout for yourself,

And then once you have the hr monitor and caidance device,

You can pair those to your app.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Oh and the wahoo app is very accessible but full of a lot of stuff.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Simon f

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2021 5:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise 
bike

 

Hello list,

So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike 
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources on 
this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling out the 
big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.

I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong and 
am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I think I’d 
be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next upgrade 
instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort of app or 
firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.

Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike 
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring heart 
rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no desire to 
get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate monitor. My 
understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to get connected, 
but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS app/service?

Thanks,

Cristobal

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accessible accessories to make a dumb exercise bike a smart exercise bike

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So as the subject line states, I’d like to make my “dumb” exercise bike
smarter. I’ve poked around online and there appear to be lots of resources
on this topic since I like a lot of other folks don’t’ feel like shelling
out the big bucks for a peloton along with the subscription.

I’ve got a 15 year old Schwinn recumbent bike that is still holding strong
and am not looking to upgrade as long as it’s still working. Even then, I
think I’d be more inclined to buying a more traditional bike for when I next
upgrade instead of something that’s Internet connected where with any sort
of app or firmware update, it can become inaccessible just like that.

Anyway, getting to my question, has anyone tackled this dumb bike/smart bike
project? Can they recommend any iOS accessible tools to get for measuring
heart rate, speed, distance etc.? I’m not an Apple watch owner and have no
desire to get one and would be perfectly fine with a stand-alone heart rate
monitor. My understanding is that Wahoo fitness stuff is the way to go to
get connected, but again and as always, what’s accessible for us? iOS
app/service?

Thanks,

Cristobal

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RE: The 40-Cell Question: A Comparison of 40-Cell Braille Displays | AccessWorld | American Foundation for the Blind

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I'm interested in the Mantis, but my only hesitation is the keyboard 
durability. I bang away on my mechanical keyboard with no issues, but I wonder 
how well the keyboard on the display will hold up long term and if any issues 
do crop up, how easy or difficult it would be to repair it since the Braille 
display and keyboard come as one unit.

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Duncan
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: The 40-Cell Question: A Comparison of 40-Cell Braille Displays | 
AccessWorld | American Foundation for the Blind

A good clear-cut read for some 40 cell options.


https://afb.org/aw/22/1/17349


Sent from my iPad

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RE: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I use the Voyager 5200 for WFH business calls. In fact, I often use both my 
Aftershokz Air and Voyager head sets at the same time. While the Voyager can 
connect to two devices, switching between both isn't instantaneous. 
Also, at least for me, I can use either headset while masking up without issue. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

A quick check on amazon shows it for $109.
It's always best to shop around of course.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

What does it cost, do you know?
At 11:00 AM 11/29/2020, you wrote:
>The voyager 3200 will definitely switch automatically.
>Marie
>
>
>-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:32 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations
>
>I'm not aware of any that can receive output from two devices at once.  
>Are you saying the Plantronics Voyagers can do this, really?
>All the ones I have used, not the Voyagers, but other Plantronics, you 
>had to manually switch between devices.
>
>
>
>
>Richard
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>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations
>
>the Plantronics Voyager models can do what you are asking.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ann Byrne
>Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:50 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations
>
>Is there a blue tooth earpiece that can pair with more than one device, 
>switching between devices when one speaks?  If my watch and phone are 
>both paired to the earpiece, can I hear the GPS on the phone when it 
>speaks, and the messages on my watch when they interrupt the GPS?
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RE: The magic fix to the iOS 14 Voiceover focus issue and all else which plagued me

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Well, well, would you look at that. All the sudden. Everything or at least 
everything I’ve played with so far has become much more stable.

I have still encountered a situation or two where VO still gets stuck on an 
element (the Amazon seller app for example), but no where nearly as much as 
before with this keyboard setting toggled to off.

Thanks for the tip.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The magic fix to the iOS 14 Voiceover focus issue and all else which 
plagued me

 

Hi,

 

So, finally I am again a happy camper although I probably did not even have to 
do the complete erase and reset on my iPhone 11 and then setting up as a new 
device which I just did a few days ago hoping it would help fix some of the 
issues I had.

Here is a bit of background:

I bought an iphone 8 64 Gb two years ago and this year I did not participate in 
the iOS 14 public beta throughout the summer because I really needed my phone 
to work and could not take chances with strange issues. I finally upgraded 
about a week or two after iOS 14 was released in september and promptly 
regretted it when I experienced the many focus issues people were talking about.

I then recently took advantage of a pretty good promotion my provider offered 
on the iPhone 11 which already had iOS 14 on it when I received it, but all the 
issues were the same.

 

For one thing the Today View was broken, then there was the mildly annoying 
issue in the App Store where you had to swipe right twice if you want to 
install updates (the first time it seemed like Voiceover said "Update", but 
then focus would immediately jump back to the app description). And finally I 
was unable to share anything any longer unless it was by text or iMessage to 
one of the contacts which show up in the list of recently contacted people in 
the share sheet. As soon as I selected to share by Mail, WhatsApp or Facebook 
the following screen where the selected app would open was completely 
inaccessible with Voiceover typically stuck on Cancel or something like that.

 

Finally I had an issue which most others did not seem to have and that had to 
do with something very annoying when typing on the on-screen keyboard in most 
edit fields. What would happen is this:

Assume for example I open a message conversation and double tap on the edit 
field to reply to somebdy who sent me a text or iMessage (it did not matter 
which it was).

 

As soon as I double tap on an iMessage conversation field Voiceover would say 
this:

Message, text field is editing, iMessage, character mode, insertion point at 
start

Now assume I want to start by typing "Hello", so I type the upper case H and I 
hear Voiceover say the following:

Message, text field is editing, H, character mode, insertion point at end

I now type the "e" of the word "Hello" and hear Voiceover say:

Message, text field is editing, He, character mode, insertion point at end

I type the first l of Hello and Voiceover says:

Message, text field is editing, Hel, character mode, insertion point at end. 
This continues with the second l and finally when I type the final o I hear:

Message, text field is editing, Hello, character mode, insertion point at end

Next I put in a space and it again repeats:

Message, text field is editing, Hello, character mode, insertion point at end

You can see the pattern, each time I typed a letter Voiceover repeated the 
entire message about "message, text field is editing, character mode and 
insertion

point and in between it said everything I had so far typed.

This happened in most search fields and other edit fields, one place where it 
does not happen and Voiceover behaves as

it should is in the Mail app in the message body field.

Anybody who wants to hear what this sounded like ccan use one of the Dropbox 
links below, the first just plays the screen recording I made, the second 
allows you to first download it:

 

 

 Screen recording to play from Dropbox

 

 

 Screen recording for downloading from Dropbox

 

And here the solution. I had posted this to jonathan Mosen's beta tester list 
and a wonderful gentleman, Matt McCubbin, wrote the following:

 

I think you may have the Full Keyboard Access 
(Settings/Accessibility/Keyboards/Full Keyboard Access), setting enabled on 
your phone. This feature causes

focus issues and other conflicts with VoiceOver. I’m able to replicate your 
iMessage issue on my end when I have the setting enabled, and I’ve also spent

time troubleshooting the focus issues that result from running both features 
concurrently.

 

Hope this helps,

RE: can not dismiss notification

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I have the same banner notification issue on my XR with iOS 13.2 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: can not dismiss notification

Which version of iOS 13? Are you on the latest 13.2 which came out a few days 
ago?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:27 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: can not dismiss notification

hi! all,
after updated to IoS 13
the notification can not disapear autimatically.
we have to dissmiss it by swipe down and double tap it anyone have this problem?



Ming 

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RE: Dual sym card capability?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yeah, I was going to post this after I sent my last message, but figured 
someone would bring it up... When they announced it, I do recall Apple talking 
about how e-sim was a big thing in China.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual sym card capability?

Keep in mind that people who are not in the US (Chermeen is in Canada as I am) 
don't have access to as many Voip services especially those who provide numbers 
one can use as a business number. In Canada Google Voice is not available, 
Skype does not provide any Canadian Skype-In numbers and while you can get 
phone numbers you can use with apps such as Groundwire or I forget now the 
other one, I think maybe Acrobits, those may not be numbers local to your 
calling area because only numbers from larger cities are offered or can be 
ported. I live in a smaller town and I for example cannot get a Voip number 
which people can call for free. For many this is not such a big deal any more 
since many cell plans include free long distance and even landlines often 
include long distance packages, but I would still never consider it good 
service for my customers to ask them to potentially call a long distance number 
if they want to call me. Also, if you work for a larger company who may provide 
a cell phone and who will let you use it for personal use being able to add a 
SIM with a personal number would be very good and vice versa the company may 
simply provide a SIM and plan if you have a phone which can support this.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual sym card capability?

I mean... If you've already got a Google Voice, Skype or one of the myriad 
other VOIP services, then this feature's more or less been available for a 
while now and not dependent on the newer phones. 

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Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual sym card capability?

I believe the dual SIM support started last year with the iPhone XS and XS Max, 
not sure if the XR has it also. However, there are not two SIM trays, the one 
has to be a so-called e-SIM and I am not sure which carriers in Canada support 
e-SIM although the Apple Watch uses e-SIM and it is supported by all 3 major 
carriers, Telus, Bell and Rogers, but not yet carriers like Koodo (not sure 
about Fido and Virgin).
.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:15 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Dual sym card capability?

Hi all,

Has anyone tried and had any success with using two sym cards (or
micro-sims) in one phone? I seem to recall this being a feature in the iPhone 
11 onward, but didn't know if anyone had actually tried it.
It's a feature I have high hopes for, as I'd prefer to use one device for both 
work and personal use, while maintaining different phone numbers and such.

Thanks,
Shermeen

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RE: Dual sym card capability?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I mean... If you've already got a Google Voice, Skype or one of the myriad 
other VOIP services, then this feature's more or less been available for a 
while now and not dependent on the newer phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual sym card capability?

I believe the dual SIM support started last year with the iPhone XS and XS Max, 
not sure if the XR has it also. However, there are not two SIM trays, the one 
has to be a so-called e-SIM and I am not sure which carriers in Canada support 
e-SIM although the Apple Watch uses e-SIM and it is supported by all 3 major 
carriers, Telus, Bell and Rogers, but not yet carriers like Koodo (not sure 
about Fido and Virgin).
.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:15 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Dual sym card capability?

Hi all,

Has anyone tried and had any success with using two sym cards (or
micro-sims) in one phone? I seem to recall this being a feature in the iPhone 
11 onward, but didn't know if anyone had actually tried it.
It's a feature I have high hopes for, as I'd prefer to use one device for both 
work and personal use, while maintaining different phone numbers and such.

Thanks,
Shermeen

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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yes. The person below got confused with the iOS version and actual iPhone 
model. They still come with earpods.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of 
Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired Lightning Ear Buds in the Box & 
that  includes the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the  iPhone11PRO 
At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:
>wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are some 
>cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone though. 
>If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the extra 50 
>bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get at least 
>22 hours charge time
>
>On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> > Just letting you know, from what I’ve
> heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
> > them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
> >
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Cristobal,
> >>
> >> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be 
> >> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and 
> >> other than their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob 
> >> occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
> >> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring
> myself to fork over $250 for earphones
> >>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying 
> >>> $75 to
> >>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription 
> >>> service… This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>  >>> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
> >>> To: VIPhone Email List  >>> >
> >>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
> >>> October
> >>> 30
> >>>
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> >>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available 
> >>> October 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article 
> >>> so hopefully iOS
> >>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be 
> >>> spending
> >>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
> >>>
> >>> Alan Lemly
> >>>
> >>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30 The all-new 
> >>> AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
> >>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
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> >>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
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RE: where to get used or refurbished iphones

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I mean… It all depends on what you’re comfortable with. I’ve bought iPhones on 
eBay as well as some off of fellow blind folks on the blind/sell mailing lists 
out there.

My current XR and my wife’s Pro Max we got through Apple, but my trusty second 
line SE I bought via a mailing list. Her 6S 128 GB that she upgraded from I 
also snagged for her from a mailing list member. Being an older phone, we’ll 
probably try to get rid of it via one of the local buy/selling apps for cash 
instead of online.

The point is that there are a number of options depending on your level of 
comfort and budget.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Search the Apple store for refurbished iPhones. 

I would never personally by a used phone from anyone but Apple.

Apple provides a one-year warranty with their refurbished products I believe.

 

 

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Cristobal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Also, this article How to buy a refurbished iPhone without getting ripped off 
<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Ftechnology%2F2019%2F04%2F12%2Fnot-all-iphones-are-same-these-cost-less-are-better-earth%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ceb23a7f1759b433bf52e08d75bda8ee2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637078866562171554&sdata=3kRMEZV7gVcuVlHCKONx8AwWf4Z2dDV12R3MQ05CXbA%3D&reserved=0>
  from the Washington Post goes into more detail on where to buy refurbished 
iPhones and what to expect.

I’m pretty sure that Apple’s still selling iPhones 8 and 8 Plus in the 
certified refurbished section of their store, but you’re going to pay a higher 
price if you go that rout if you’re on a tighter budget. If money isn’t a 
concern, then you’re not going to get much better than just buying it from 
Apple directly. New battery and screen and one year of Apple Care.

 

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> 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Swappa, eBay, FB Marketplace, OfferUp, LetGo, etc.

 

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Van Lant
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Please save me some time waiting in lines or on hold…  I’m ready  to retire my 
old 6S and am thinking I’d prefer to get an 8 or 8Plus to maintain thumbprint 
ID and for the cost.  Other than the Groupon deals I see, which have mixed 
reviews, where do you look for refurbished iPhones?  I got my last two phones 
from Verizon, but the eamils I get seem to be only pushing trading in older 
phones for the newest.  I’m also thinking this is a good time to consider 
switching carriers, since my Verizon service has been spotty.  Just  trying to 
understand the best strategy.  Should I go to the Apple store or do they only 
sell new models there?  

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: where to get used or refurbished iphones

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Also, this article How to buy a refurbished iPhone without getting ripped off 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/04/12/not-all-iphones-are-same-these-cost-less-are-better-earth/>
  from the Washington Post goes into more detail on where to buy refurbished 
iPhones and what to expect.

I’m pretty sure that Apple’s still selling iPhones 8 and 8 Plus in the 
certified refurbished section of their store, but you’re going to pay a higher 
price if you go that rout if you’re on a tighter budget. If money isn’t a 
concern, then you’re not going to get much better than just buying it from 
Apple directly. New battery and screen and one year of Apple Care.

 

From: Cristobal Muñoz  
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Swappa, eBay, FB Marketplace, OfferUp, LetGo, etc.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Please save me some time waiting in lines or on hold…  I’m ready  to retire my 
old 6S and am thinking I’d prefer to get an 8 or 8Plus to maintain thumbprint 
ID and for the cost.  Other than the Groupon deals I see, which have mixed 
reviews, where do you look for refurbished iPhones?  I got my last two phones 
from Verizon, but the eamils I get seem to be only pushing trading in older 
phones for the newest.  I’m also thinking this is a good time to consider 
switching carriers, since my Verizon service has been spotty.  Just  trying to 
understand the best strategy.  Should I go to the Apple store or do they only 
sell new models there?  

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: where to get used or refurbished iphones

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Swappa, eBay, FB Marketplace, OfferUp, LetGo, etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: where to get used or refurbished iphones

 

Please save me some time waiting in lines or on hold…  I’m ready  to retire my 
old 6S and am thinking I’d prefer to get an 8 or 8Plus to maintain thumbprint 
ID and for the cost.  Other than the Groupon deals I see, which have mixed 
reviews, where do you look for refurbished iPhones?  I got my last two phones 
from Verizon, but the eamils I get seem to be only pushing trading in older 
phones for the newest.  I’m also thinking this is a good time to consider 
switching carriers, since my Verizon service has been spotty.  Just  trying to 
understand the best strategy.  Should I go to the Apple store or do they only 
sell new models there?  

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for earphones that 
if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to $85 a year 
for basically a never ending earphone subscription service… This is not a  
treadmill I’m itching to jump on

 

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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

 

 

I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th and 
require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 will be 
out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a pair of 
earphones.

 

Alan Lemly 


Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.

Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA


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RE: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I actually haven’t used it since I updated my XR. Now I’m going to have to give 
it a spin.

On a side note, it looks like the Instant Pot app had an update today. For 
connectivity issues with the smart wifi model and “other improvements”. 
Whatever that means.

Perhaps owners of the wifi model can try it out and report back as well.

 

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Hedgpeth
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3

 

Hello all,

I hope someone can help with my issue.

Has anyone else experienced problems with their Instant Pot Bluetooth app in 
the new 13.1.3? Since they quict making the Bluetooth model a couple years ago, 
they may not bother updating the app.

Hope someone has a solution.

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

 

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RE: 1Password or LastPass?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

When I was looking into a PW manager a few years ago, at that time, the general 
consensus was that 1Password was more accessible. I don't know if Lastpass has 
done anything to make it's service more accessible, but 1Password's been 
working fine for me on my iPhone and PCs. They're also pretty responsive to 
accessibility concerns and work to address whatever issues may pop up from time 
to time. 
As far as pricing... Well, in my opinion, I don't find it to be hefty for the 
convenience and peace of 
mind that it provides at all, but that's going to depend from person to person 
I suppose. 

-Original Message-
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carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 1Password or LastPass?

Which of these two apps does everyone prefer? I’ve heard great things about 
1Password, but it looks like there’s a hefty subscription fee which I’m not 
crazy about.

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RE: Upgraded to iOS 13.1.3 on SE and now have Siri issues

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Dude… Just upgraded yesterday and only noticed this this morning. Wasn’t sure 
if it was just me, but now that I see that it’s not, I’ll be doing exactly that.

 

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Turner
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgraded to iOS 13.1.3 on SE and now have Siri issues

 

I hope you are all letting Apple Accessibility know about your experiences. 

 

 

 

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On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Vicki W. mailto:vwher...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

I just updated yesterday and I'm having the same issue. She always responds, 
but very slowly or asks me to wait.

 

Vicki

 

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 1:29 PM

Subject: Upgraded to iOS 13.1.3 on SE and now have Siri issues

 

Hello list,

So I took the plunge and upgraded my SE that I use as a second line for 
business yesterday.

I’m thankfully not experiencing that VO phone call bug, but am coming across a 
frustrating issue with Siri that I don’t recall others bringing up.

Anyway, it seems now after upgrading, Siri is super super slow to outright 
unresponsive.

It doesn’t matter if I initiate Siri with either the touch ID button on the 
physical device or via my Bluetooth earpiece (Plantronics 5200), Siri takes 
forever to come up and give me that tone indicating that I should make my 
request/command. Once I tell Siri to dial a number or call X contact or 
whatever, again, the phone will take forever to respond and if I’m lucky, I’ll 
get the Siri voice telling me to please wait or that the process is taking a 
bit followed by a please try again later, but more often than not, it just does 
nothing as if Siri is still waiting for me to speak.

Again, this only started after I upgraded my SE from V 12.4.1 to 13.1.3. 

Anyone else in fact dealing with this Siri issue?

 

 

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Upgraded to iOS 13.1.3 on SE and now have Siri issues

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So I took the plunge and upgraded my SE that I use as a second line for
business yesterday.

I’m thankfully not experiencing that VO phone call bug, but am coming across
a frustrating issue with Siri that I don’t recall others bringing up.

Anyway, it seems now after upgrading, Siri is super super slow to outright
unresponsive.

It doesn’t matter if I initiate Siri with either the touch ID button on the
physical device or via my Bluetooth earpiece (Plantronics 5200), Siri takes
forever to come up and give me that tone indicating that I should make my
request/command. Once I tell Siri to dial a number or call X contact or
whatever, again, the phone will take forever to respond and if I’m lucky,
I’ll get the Siri voice telling me to please wait or that the process is
taking a bit followed by a please try again later, but more often than not,
it just does nothing as if Siri is still waiting for me to speak.

Again, this only started after I upgraded my SE from V 12.4.1 to 13.1.3. 

Anyone else in fact dealing with this Siri issue?

 

 

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RE: attention: possible severe dictation bug in ios13.1.3

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Grr… V 12.4.1

 

From: Cristobal Muñoz  
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: attention: possible severe dictation bug in ios13.1.3

 

Question, is this with the default voice enabled only?

I know that sometimes I can have funky things happen with my default English 
language voice, but if I switch the language to English which I also have in my 
language rotor aside from it being my default, then that works fine.

I’m still on V 21.4.1, but plan on upgrading since it sounds like that nasty 
phone call bug was finally addressed. I may just upgrade on my secondary phone 
just to see first.

I wonder if this is a universal dictation and language thing that sighted folks 
are also experiencing… 

Anyway, just a thought.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: attention: possible severe dictation bug in ios13.1.3

 

 

I confirming it 

I’ve got the same problem Sent from my iPhone

 

On 16 Oct 2019, at 6:39 pm, Davy Cuppens mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi folks 

 

Two belgian users mentioned earlier today that a language switch in 
dictionaries had been made for their dictation capability on iphones. 

 

If you dictate in paragraphes, the first is just fine, but when entering the 
next line separated by a full stop point, if different languages are installed, 
the next line will be put out in another language for example Dutch and then 
English or French so that that line is read out full of mistakes and wrong 
words and idioms. 

 

Who can confirm this strange behaviour bug?

Davy 

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RE: attention: possible severe dictation bug in ios13.1.3

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Question, is this with the default voice enabled only?

I know that sometimes I can have funky things happen with my default English 
language voice, but if I switch the language to English which I also have in my 
language rotor aside from it being my default, then that works fine.

I’m still on V 21.4.1, but plan on upgrading since it sounds like that nasty 
phone call bug was finally addressed. I may just upgrade on my secondary phone 
just to see first.

I wonder if this is a universal dictation and language thing that sighted folks 
are also experiencing… 

Anyway, just a thought.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: attention: possible severe dictation bug in ios13.1.3

 

 

I confirming it 

I’ve got the same problem Sent from my iPhone





On 16 Oct 2019, at 6:39 pm, Davy Cuppens mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi folks 

 

Two belgian users mentioned earlier today that a language switch in 
dictionaries had been made for their dictation capability on iphones. 

 

If you dictate in paragraphes, the first is just fine, but when entering the 
next line separated by a full stop point, if different languages are installed, 
the next line will be put out in another language for example Dutch and then 
English or French so that that line is read out full of mistakes and wrong 
words and idioms. 

 

Who can confirm this strange behaviour bug?

Davy 

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RE: How Do You Use Overcast to Listen to a Podcast?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Really a different strokes for different folks kind of deal. 
I use Overcast for some podcasts, but the majority of the stuff I listen to is 
through Downcast. 
Downcast has more settings for customization and such, whereas Overcast is a 
bit more simplified. That and yes, Overcast does have better overall sound 
quality.
I've tried switching to Overcast completely, but continue finding myself going 
back to Downcast just because I like some of the features it has that Overcast 
just doesn't offer.
Again though, that's ultimately personal preference.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:17 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: How Do You Use Overcast to Listen to a Podcast?

Hi Shirley,

Overcast is really good at speeding up content and keeping the audio quality 
intact. A smart speed feature also saves time by shortening pauses in the 
audio. There's also a Voice Boost feature that helps equalize podcasts, which 
can be helpful if, for example, one person is louder than the other. You can 
store effects with a particular podcast so that if you like to listen to one at 
normal speed and another at 1.75, you can do that. Those are the features I 
particularly like.

Best,
Anna 

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anna. Those are the same steps I used for listening to a podcast 
> before I got the overcast apSo I guess my question would be what is the 
> purpose of overcast then?p.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shirley,
>> 
>> Double-tap the podcast name, and then double-tap the episode you want to 
>> hear. Double-tap Play, and it starts playing.
>> 
>> To delete an episode or a podcast, touch its name, flick up or down until 
>> you get to Delete, and double-tap.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Shirley Baker  
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>>> How do you use overcast to listen to a podcast and can you delete podcasts 
>>> from your phone? If so, how?
>>> 
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RE: Best accessible photo storage app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

If memory serves, if you've got Amazon Prime, unlimited photo access is 
included. I think there's a nominal fee for unlimited files and video, but 
can't recall at the moment what it is. My wife deals with all that stuff.
She uses Google Drive for the pictures she takes for our online arbitrage stuff 
since she finds it super convenient to take photos on her phone and have the 
automatically upload and sync to her desktop to later edit with Picasa. For 
this, it's just a regular free storage account.
All the personal photos and videos and stuff she's got uploaded to Amazon.
I don't even think there's a particular reason why she's stuck with the Google 
Drive thing, but for the fact that that's how she started and it's just become 
part of her workflow. 

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best accessible photo storage app

I think Google or Amazon offers a lot of free space for photo storage.
Personally I consider the cost for Apple's 50Gb of iCloud storage so small, 99 
Cents a month in the US I think, that both my wife and I have it and this way 
we don't have to worry. If you take tons of videos maybe 50Gb isn't enough, but 
for us it is and you can always move pictures manually off the phone and since 
we both have 1Tb of OneDrive storage via the Office 365 subscription there is 
plenty of space there.
In the end it's like with anything, you can probably find free storage, as I 
said, Google I am pretty sure offers it, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

-Original Message-
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Jaithwar
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:13 AM
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Subject: Best accessible photo storage app

hi, I got lot of pictures in my iPhone And seems like iCloud free storage is 
very small for me and I don’t want to upgrade it.  
So can you guys suggest any free accessible unlimited photo storage app Thanks!


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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’d venture to guess that the update is only shown/offered to those who are 
upgraded to 13.x and can support it. That or it just hasn’t rolled out to 
everyone yet. I too am still on iOS 12.4.1 and haven’t received any Overcast 
update. Not worried about it though since it seems that all it is for is dark 
mode stuff anyway. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

 

I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.

 

On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.

The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

 

Regards,

 

Sieghard

 

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RE: Los Angeles times app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

You just made me open up the ap on my iPhone XR. I'm a digital subscriber, but 
if I read anything from the LA times, it's mainly via link I've come across 
Twitter or from one of my RSS feeds and in Safari. I mainly use the app for 
local alerts and such.
It had been a while since I used it so hadn't actually done so since their big 
update from whenever they started rolling it out.
Anyway, true, the screen just shows those two items. I tried closing and 
reopening etc. Turning VO off and randomly swiping and tapping, but no go. 
I finally handed the phone to my sighted wife who said that it displayed a 
series of those see what's new screens and to swipe next etc. She went through 
the prompts and landed on the log in screen where I took the phone back and 
proceeded with my log in with 1Password.
Now that I'm logged in, everything at first glance (no pun intended) seems 
accessible enough. The tabs at the bottom, stories etc. 
I guess it's just getting past that initial see what's new stuff (which is 
nevertheless a fail on their part), and you should be good to go. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Los Angeles times app

I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of the 
LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and there are 
only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something like that, and 
the other says something about an all new news experience. Nothing works. I 
double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that screen. It’s hard for 
me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the largest metro areas in 
the country is completely voiceover useless. I know you can get it on Apple 
news. But what if I want to get the app and have and possibly have things 
organized in a better manner than what you get when you just look at a random 
feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?


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RE: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Well, I bought this microwave back in June of last year and I've been pretty 
happy with it.
Panasonic Microwave Oven NN-SN966S Stainless Steel Countertop/Built-In with 
Inverter Technology and Genius Sensor, 2.2 Cu. Ft, 1250W 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEWZWDU/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Qg4NDb6KMZJMV
This is the larger option. I believe there's a smaller 1.2 SQFT version.
What drew me to is is that it's got a tactile keypad. The menus aren't 
accessible per say, but that's been true of pretty much any microwave always. 
Just a little memorization and maybe jotting down sequences until it becomes 
second nature and there you go.
It's a pretty strong appliance and I was at first blowing things up and over 
cooking until I got the hang of it. I think it's got a 1250 wat capacity 
This one is a beast, so if countertop space is an issue, then maybe the smaller 
version would be a safer bet.
I'm not really aware of an iPhone connected model. I guess Alexa connected 
devices maybe? Couldn't say since I'm not into the Alexa eco system.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Outman
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:00 PM
To: V IPhone List 
Subject: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

Hi, list. 
I am about to purchase a new microwave and am wondering if access through my 
iPhone is the best way to go, as most models are touch screen now and don’t 
have speech access, and so would need to be labeled. 
What app would I need and can it be set up easily? 
I have an 8 Plus phone and a 17 inch counter space. 
Bill Outman 


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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

So going down a rabbit-hole now, I downloaded the California lottery iOS app. 
It seems accessible enough. You can check out all the games state-wide and 
nationally and their results, but there doesn't appear to be any means to 
actually buy a ticket or play any of the games.

Poking around online, there actually appear to be all sorts of sites and 
services to purchase lottery tickets from all kinds of games. There are even 
sites dedicated to ranking the best and most trustworthy companies to play 
with. I mean really, who knew... 

I'll pass along this info to him, but again, as I originally asked, if there's 
anyone who has played or used any of these online services in an accessible 
manner, it would be good to know as well.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

Here in Canada you can buy any of the lottery tickets online (Lottomax, 6-49 
etc.) at the website PlayNow <https://www.playnow.com/> .

What I don’t know is whether this website is available in the US and offers you 
lottery tickets from US and local lotteries there.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

Interesting question.  I think this may be difficult to find.  When we order 
from our local grocery store using Instacart, we aren't allowed to request that 
they bring lottery tickets as part of the order.  I'm not sure why, but there 
you go.  You would think it should be possible for a third party to do this, 
but I am not aware of a way.

 

Pam

 

 



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[viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Cristobal Muñoz 
[cristobalm...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:32 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.

For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either.

Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now… 
Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz

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Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

 

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’

RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.

For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either. 

Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now…

Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

 

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Have you tried double tapping and holding the little globe icon till the 
keyboard options come up?
This will show all the keyboards you have enabled as well as the left-handed, 
right-handed and default keyboard layout if you've got a bigger size phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to english 
layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, once I 
switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the button to 
switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and emoji.
Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s
out of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have
never looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone
plays lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays
the state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe
side, something that covers the national and California  super lotto games.
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an
iOS app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Cristobal Muñoz]

A follow up. A quick Amazon search brought up this battery case for the 6 and 
6S for $28 US 
Pxwaxpy Battery Case for iPhone 6S 6 6000mAh Rechargeable Charging Case for 
iPhone 6 External Charger Cover iPhone 6S Battery Pack Apple Power Bank [4.7 
inch]- Black
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DVMJXRM/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_-4HNDbVJ2T7Z2
There were a few others around the same price range and similar capacity. I 
have no idea as far as product quality, but a $30 band aid isn't all that bad 
if all you want is to get through the next few months in order to make a better 
decision on what it is you want to do.


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From: Cristobal Muñoz  
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The iPhone SE2

Even now, a battery swap for that model phone probably isn't all that 
outrageous price-wise. That or you could buy a battery case just to get you 
through the next few months. Being a 6S, you could likely score a case for 
around $30 give or take on the brand and capacity.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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RE: The iPhone SE2

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Even now, a battery swap for that model phone probably isn't all that 
outrageous price-wise. That or you could buy a battery case just to get you 
through the next few months. Being a 6S, you could likely score a case for 
around $30 give or take on the brand and capacity.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

It's easy to say just wait and see, but in my case, not so easily done.

My iPhone 6S is currently giving me really crappy battery life, as I didn't 
upgrade the battery when I should have, so, now, I have to decide whether to 
buy the iPhone 8, or wait for the SE and just change out the battery on my 6S.

I wish I knew that Apple would give me the SE in exchange for the 8 when it was 
released, but I don't think they do that sort of thing.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2

If that new phone is true, then that will be the phone for me, as it would have 
the home button.  I would need a phone with at least my 256 GB that I've got on 
my iPhone 8.  One thing I love to do, is to listen to audio books either mp3 
ones that I put onto voice dream reader, or by using the bard mobile app.  I'm 
currently listening to The Grapes of Wrath which if you haven't yet read, I 
highly recommend.

On 10/9/19, Dave  wrote:
> The easy answer is, to wait and see.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> Maybe he works with Apple hihi. Indeed only rumors and gossip.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iPhone SE2
>
> What is your source for saying the SE2 is confirmed?
> I've only found rumors, but nothing from Apple.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:23 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> ???For those of you looking to get a new iPhone and would like the 
>> home button and touch ID, the iPhone SE2 has been confirmed for the 
>> first quarter of 2020. Rumors indicate that this phone will be in the 
>> iPhone 8 body and will feature Apple's higher end processor. Rumors 
>> also indicate that this phone could possibly sell for between 
>> $349-$399 for the 32 gig version. So for those of you looking to 
>> upgrade and like the old school touch ID, this might be something 
>> worth waiting for. Apple plans to sell
>> 30,000,000-40,000,000 of these in the first year.
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RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Do you mean the app or website? This being the ViPhone list, I was referring to 
the Prime app itself.
I don't really watch enough TV or movies to be aware of the restriction on 
audiodescribed flicks and the requirement on to having to rent or purchase in 
order to have access to the described track. If that's broadly true, then that 
would suck.
I mainly consume the original stuff on Amazon whereas I'll more often than not, 
look up the commercial stuff on Netflix. No particular reason, but for the fact 
that Netflix was first to the game in offering audiodescription and it's just 
easier to find the audiodescribed category there with the app on my iPhone.
Hulu's finally supposed to be rolling out iOS support for audiodescription 
instead of just via the web browser too. So we'll see how that goes.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
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Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

The ACB Page is updated more regularly, but if you go to Amazon, choose the 
Prime video category and type in Descriptive Audio it will bring up a complete 
listing of offerings that supposedly have audio description.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/5/2019 11:59 AM, Cristobal Mu??oz wrote:
> Odd. There appears to be a boatload of audio described on Amazon. All their 
> original stuff and they're always adding commercial releases. You being in 
> Canada, perhaps it's more a function of licensing/copyright issues?
> I wish they get around to better sorting their stuff though. Right now, you 
> more or less have to hunt for stuff or know ahead what title will have 
> audiodescription instead of there simply being a category for audio described 
> content.
> According to this page that lists Prime shows with audiodescription, they are 
> nearing 1000 titles with audiodescription.
> https://acb.org/adp/amazonad.html
>
> -
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App
>
> I think Amazon needs to up their game with respect to descriptive video. Here 
> in Canada I have never come across a single one which has audio descriptions.
> At least I just read that at least I can finally add Apple Music so that I 
> can now play music via my Echo speakers from my Apple Music subscription.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App
>
> Its probably a question of what is Amazon doing wrong.
> I assume Audio Description is turned on in your phone settings.
>
> If so, when you start a movie that is supposed to have the description track 
> and it doesn't play, pause the movie and see if there are any buttons that 
> would give you a choice of audio tracks.
> Some times, for some reason, you have to make sure the English with 
> description is on in the movie, at least with some platforms.
> I do not have Prime, so I cannot be sure.
>
> You may also want to call Amazon accessibility customer service.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:06 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Subject: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 12.4.?? I don't want to update at this time, 
> so I'm hoping my issue won't be one that needs an update to solve it.
>
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to get the app for Amazon Prime Video to 
> consistently play the audio described track.?? I've verified that the movies 
> in question have the DVS track, but I cannot seem to get it to play.
>
>
> This is frustrating, because I played a movie yesterday that had DVS and I 
> just double-tapped the Play Now button in the Prime Video App and the movie, 
> including description started playing with no additional input from me.
>
>
> These are movies included with my Prime subscription and not ones I need to 
> rent from Amazon, if that makes a difference.
>
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> Lisa
>
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RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Odd. There appears to be a boatload of audio described on Amazon. All their 
original stuff and they're always adding commercial releases. You being in 
Canada, perhaps it's more a function of licensing/copyright issues?
I wish they get around to better sorting their stuff though. Right now, you 
more or less have to hunt for stuff or know ahead what title will have 
audiodescription instead of there simply being a category for audio described 
content.
According to this page that lists Prime shows with audiodescription, they are 
nearing 1000 titles with audiodescription.
https://acb.org/adp/amazonad.html

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

I think Amazon needs to up their game with respect to descriptive video. Here 
in Canada I have never come across a single one which has audio descriptions.
At least I just read that at least I can finally add Apple Music so that I can 
now play music via my Echo speakers from my Apple Music subscription.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

Its probably a question of what is Amazon doing wrong.
I assume Audio Description is turned on in your phone settings.

If so, when you start a movie that is supposed to have the description track 
and it doesn't play, pause the movie and see if there are any buttons that 
would give you a choice of audio tracks.
Some times, for some reason, you have to make sure the English with description 
is on in the movie, at least with some platforms.
I do not have Prime, so I cannot be sure.

You may also want to call Amazon accessibility customer service.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:06 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Hearing Descriptive Tracks in Amazon Prime App

Hi, all.


I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 12.4.?? I don't want to update at this time, so 
I'm hoping my issue won't be one that needs an update to solve it.


I'm trying to figure out how to get the app for Amazon Prime Video to 
consistently play the audio described track.?? I've verified that the movies in 
question have the DVS track, but I cannot seem to get it to play.


This is frustrating, because I played a movie yesterday that had DVS and I just 
double-tapped the Play Now button in the Prime Video App and the movie, 
including description started playing with no additional input from me.


These are movies included with my Prime subscription and not ones I need to 
rent from Amazon, if that makes a difference.


What am I doing wrong?


HTH


Lisa


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RE: Setting up an activity in iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup. A few times I’ve had an issue where I swear I was doing everything right 
or just couldn’t figure something out and finally ended up calling the 
accessibility line. I did the share screen thing with them and walking through 
it, the Apple rep pointed out a step that I was missing or in a couple of 
instances, was able to document an actual bug.

It doesn’t’ happen very often that I call them, but they are after all there 
for a reason.

This sounds like an interesting and useful feature. I look forward to finally 
upgrading to 13.X once some of those bugs get addressed.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up an activity in iOS 13

 

Maybe try Apple Accessibility and see if they can figure out why it’s not 
working for you

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Setting up an activity in iOS 13

 

Hi Anna,

Yes, I am running 13.1.2. And I did go back and make sure that the activity was 
set how I wanted it. I have tried all sorts of ways to get it to be activated. 
I have turned my rotor to activity, open the mail, and manually flip to 
activity one. I have flick to activity one prior to opening mail. I have left 
things completely alone and opened mail. It just never works. I’m really 
disappointed, because for me, this was one of the main things I really was 
looking forward to with the new iOS. That and enhanced shortcuts and  HomePod 
hand off, which is not

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:



Hi Mary,

 

You don't have to have activities in the rotor. You can if you want to switch 
to one manually, though. Are you running 13.1.2? Also, did you go back in and 
make sure the activity is set the way you want it?

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

On Oct 3, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Anna,

Well, that’s what I thought. I didn’t even realize you had to have activity in 
your Rogar I thought activities were supposed to automatically load like they 
do on the Mac. But I can’t get this one to load no matter what I do.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:



Hi Richard and Mary,

 

You shouldn't have to select the activity on the rotor. If you selected Mail in 
the list of apps, the activity should run automatically when you open Mail.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Mary, 

I just created an activity to use a different voice, set puncuation to all, and 
only for the mail app.

I just hit the back button at each step where it was there.

Then, when all done, hit the back button again.

Then switched to the mail app, selected activity 1 on the rotor, and your 
message read with the Samantha voice, with all punctuation.

So, as far as my quick test goes, it works as advertised.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

One of the reasons I updated my older phone to iOS 13.1 and then 13.1.2, was 
to take advantage of the new activities feature. Accordingly, I have gone into 
settings, voiceover, activities, and selected activity one. Within that, I 
changed the settings for table, row and column numbers to off. Then selected 
the mail app as the one I wanted the activity to apply to. I never did find a 
done button or any such thing. So I just exited out of the app that is out of 
settings. I had to wait till today to get a mail message with a table in it. 
But when I open that message, the activity I made did not work. I am probably 
missing a step, doing something wrong. So before report this to Apple, can 
anyone comment on whether they’ve gotten activities to work, and what steps I 
might have been missing.
Mary


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RE: Over Drive Is Now VoiceOver Accessible in iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yeah, in general, I didn't ever find the VoiceOver Overdrive experience on iOS 
to be all that great be it with e or audiobooks.
In the sense that things were labeled and such, sure I suppose, but as far as 
the user experience... It's not my first or second or third choice to consume 
reading material on my iPhone.

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Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Over Drive Is Now VoiceOver Accessible in iOS 13

Hi Mark,
I gave a really serious look at the libby app and also the OverDrive app a 
while back, maybe even before iOS 12. It might’ve been iOS 11. I really really 
couldn’t get it to work well, either one of them. I wanted to borrow print 
ebooks, not audiobooks. With the OverDrive app, are you using the print side or 
the Audible side? Do you have books sent to your Kindle app? Or are you able to 
find them and read them efficiently within the overdrive app? I just remember 
having all kinds of problems with anything having to do with getting library 
books.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:08 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am delighted to inform you that Over Drive, the app used to borrow 
> books from the United States public library system, is now as 
> VoiceOver accessible, in iOS 13, as it is in iOS 12 and earlier.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I'm still on V 12.4.1, but regarding the latest 13.1.2 update, Brian Hartgen 
tweeted out the following. 
After trying everything, I had the idea of saying to voice control, reboot 
device. Then swiping right twice, followed by a double tap. While I couldn’t 
hear anything, it did restart.
 
So I guess for those dealing with this rather major bug, something else to try.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

Yeah Sieghard

Apple did not resolve any of our bugs in ios13.1.2 and I have written this to 
accessibility which I will do after each update.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it 
may be resolved.

Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out and this 
is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email as well as call, 
they need to understand that this is a fairly critical issue and they simply 
have to resolve it promptly.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

It happens when you make a face time call

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>
> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't 
> make enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's 
> see if I can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
>
> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and 
> I will happily add you.
> maria2...@gmail.com
>
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They 
>> are working on it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning 
>>> my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
>>>
>>> The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback 
>>> and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute 
>>> I go back to the home screen, nothing.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what else to do.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Chantal
>>>
> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
 Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at 
 least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving, 
 but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get 
 cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!


>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>

 
 All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of ke...@kellford.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
 Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop 
 after making many phone calls

 I get this also with more than a few calls I’ve made with iOS 13 
 and 13.1.
 Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.

 Kelly

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
 To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
 making many phone calls

 Hello,

 I have been an iOS/iDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and 
 the third Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I 
 have also been beta testing new iOS releases for many years.

 I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public 
 beta program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the 
 subject line throughout the beta cycle.
 I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported this 
 via the Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given how 
 many other Voiceover users experience this, it has also been 
 reported to Apple Accessibility since the official release.
 I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired 
 users discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this back to 
 Apple accessibility, I t

RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yeah, that's the thing that sucks about a lot of these devices.
The Voyager Edge I first had began to conk out on me after 13 months. Surprise 
surprise, it was no longer under warranty at that time.
My 5200 is still going strong two years later so that's good, but true, paying 
a not so insignificant amount for any of these devices just to have to 
continuously replace them after only a couple of years or whatever is terrible. 
Basically, you're endlessly paying anywhere from $40 to $70 a year in a faux 
subscription cost.
Meanwhile, I've had a trusty pare of Bose sports inline mic headphones with a 
good old 3.55 MM jack for going on 7 years now and they're still going strong. 
Apple and all these companies pump up the wonders and convenience of Bluetooth, 
but what they don’t' say is that it's just another means for them to get you to 
always have to open your wallet as well. 
But anyway... the Plantronics 5200 is a solid earpiece. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

They all use a built-in, rechargeable lithium-ion battery, I have never seen a 
Bluetooth headset, especially not such a small one, which had any sort of 
replaceable battery.
That is why I don't buy super-expensive headsets like the Airpods or $300 or 
$400 Bluetooth speakers, they have a lifespan of 3 or 4 years at the very most 
and then the batteries won't hold a lot of charge any more and you have to 
replace them.
That is of course if they last that long. I bought my wife a Power Beats 
Bluetooth headset or whatever the one is called which has earbuds and is 
connected with a sort of cable/wire. It was not exactly cheap and after less 
than 2 years it refused to charge any more even though she is very careful with 
her stuff and when plugging in or unplugging the charge cable. Of course by 
that time there is no more warranty and you can throw the thing away, all in 
all it is disappointing.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

Dear Sieghard Weitzel && List:
Do the Plantronics 5200 UC headphones use a replaceable battery or one that is 
built-in, tried to check the link you gave, but it had no description.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

But just to be clear, the USB dongle is nothing but a Bluetooth receiver, it 
does not actually plug in and transmit via 2.4 GHz like the Logitech H800 which 
you can use in Bluetooth mode or 2.4 GHz wireless mode.
If you have a laptop with Bluetooth then you would actually spend money 
unnecessarily since the Bluetooth USB dongle doesn't do anything you couldn't 
do anyway.
If you have a desktop and you want to use it for that it's different, but you 
could actually buy cheaper Bluetooth USB dongles than what the UC version costs 
extra.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Petty
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

I purchased a Plantronics VOYAGER- 5200-UC in July from Amazon. It is larger 
than the earlier models. Even so, the audio quality is especially good. I 
checked other Plantronics models and one from Sennheiser before finally 
locating this model; their user audio quality was not as good (earpiece volume 
could never be set to an acceptable level. I also had complaints about 
background noise with these other units.

The VOYAGER- 5200-UC has great user audio level and the microphone level and 
audio quality must be good; the people I talk to using the earpiece give me 
good reports. This model has a nice carrying case with a good cradle for the 
earpiece. This particular earpiece comes with a USB dongle so you may also use 
the earpiece with a desktop or notebook computer. 

The unit is large and very few people will think you're talking to yourself as 
you walk down a street using the device. A positive point for it being such a 
large device.

Here's the Amazon link for the model I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G49I2FA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

I also purchased an add on improved ear tip produced by another manufacturer; 
CHOCKALOTTA 1-Pack in-Ear Tip Adapter Mount for Plantronics Voyager 5200. It 
has an unusual name, but greatly improved the audio and earpiece fit for me.

Hope this helps.

Richard Petty

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Replacement for Plantronics voyager edge?

RE: iPhone SE battery

[Cristobal Muñoz]

You don't have to take it to an Apple store. There are lots of third party 
vendors who are authorized to do iPhone repairs. Also being an SE, I'm guessing 
you're out of warranty? Basically, just jump on yelp or Google for apple repair 
 services in your area and you'll likely find something. Being a simple battery 
replacement on an SE, it shouldn't be all that complicated.
My sighted wife swapped out the battery on an old 5S we have by herself early 
last year for example. We just bought the new battery that came with all 
necessary tools for something like $25 and she went on iFixIt and watched some 
YouTube videos and voila. Old 5S with a brand spanking new battery. I think 
starting with the 7 and up, do it yourself repairs became a lot harder, but for 
the SE, it shouldn't be all that complicated to get the battery replaced 
somehow some way.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE battery

Thanks all for the responses.

Yeah, I did read some of the articles about 80 percent not being so good. 
However, since my sister doesn't drive and we aren't near an Apple store, 
anyway, I figure by the time I paid for a cab to go to the post office, paid 
shipping both ways, and paid for the replacement, I may as well try to see if I 
can find her a used SE somewhere with a better battery. I've been trying for 
about six weeks now to get my brother to go to AT&T to get the SIM exchanged, 
but he just doesn't get in any hurry. But maybe I'll see if they still have any 
refurbish SE phones at AT&T, as it can't hurt to ask. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 2:01 am
Subject: RE: iPhone SE battery

>
>
> And 81% is not actually so good. When I went to Apple last year with my 6S 
> Plus for their battery replacement offer my battery's capacity was at 84% and 
> they said I would definitely qualify for the $35 Canadian battery replacement 
> they offered until the end of last year.
> But even at the regular price your sister would probably get a lot more 
> enjoyment out of your old iPhone SE if you or she were to get the battery 
> replaced.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE battery
> 
> She would honestly be fine with the SE
> 
> On 9/30/19, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> > As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but 
> > haven't yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my 
> > question here is, is it worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my 
> > sister, or am I doing her a disservice in the end because of the lower 
> > battery capacity?
> >
> > Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as 
> > you go phone from AT&T, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a 
> > signal in her house in the rural area where we live, I purchased a 
> > used iPhone 7 from one of the blindness lists , thinking to give it 
> > to her. However, grin, I made the mistake of giving her the choice 
> > between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the smaller SE.
> >
> > I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's 
> > account, and he needs to go to the AT&T store here to get her the 
> > new SIM card for the phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM.
> > I did, though, confirm that the phone would indeed work at her house. 
> > And, just before I reset the phone to factory defaults, I checked 
> > its battery health, and the maximum capacity given for that phone 
> > was 81 percent. It did say that the battery was supporting normal 
> > peak performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of 
> > internet right now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet 
> > ready to leave AT&T, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE 
> > any good. I purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year 
> > ago, so guess I'll have to watch my battery care a bit better with my 
> > future phones.
> >
> > As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT&T store a 
> > while back and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my 
> > AT&T Unlimited and more Premium plan, we discussed both the second 
> > line or adding some sort of wireless hotspot device to my one-line 
> > plan. If memory serves, the rep told me that, if I were to choose 
> > the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a home phone number 
> > but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either pay 
> > the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly 
> > payments. So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for 
> > the second line with its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of 
> > course, I can just cancel this second line at a

RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Ok... but that VoiceOver phone call bug that lots of folks are reporting has 
nothing to do with third party apps and is pretty major. I mean, it's not like 
Apple would've let that bug go live for 13.0 or 13.1 or 13.1.1 if the screen 
were going blank on sighted folks requiring a full device restart after random 
phone calls.
The majority of the bugs mentioned I think I could live with, but I'm on my 
phone all day for this and that. I can't chance having to deal with that 
specific VO bug on my phone after upgrading.
So wait I shall...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

They had to release IOS 13 when they did because they were also releasing new 
phones, and they had to have something to put on them.  I don't think you can 
blame Apple for everything. Some of the fault lies with the app developers who 
had adequate time to update their software and they just didn't do it for 
whatever reason.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Lumpkin" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out


I can't imagine what their testing department is doing. I think it's 
horrible.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out

Cristobal,

I'd have to agree. iOS 13.0 was released 9/19/19, iOS 13.1 was released 
9/24/19, and now iOS 13.1.1 was released 9/27/19. I'm glad Apple is working 
quickly to correct issues but I'd prefer they get the major issues resolved 
before initial release. I'll bide my time a bit longer before upgrading from 
iOS 12.4.1.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out

Man. This has been an especially sloppy iOS rollout.
I think I m going to cool my jets and see what others say about any of those 
VO bugs being fixed before I update from 12.4.X.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 13.1.1 is out

I'm not sure if this does much for us, but you can go get it now. It says 
bug fixes.

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RE: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Man. This has been an especially sloppy iOS rollout.
I think I’m going to cool my jets and see what others say about any of those VO 
bugs being fixed before I update from 12.4.X.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 10:47 AM
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I'm not sure if this does much for us, but you can go get it now. It says bug 
fixes.

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Question on making calls from VOIP apps and Siri shortcuts

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So I haven’t really gotten into the whole shortcuts aspect of iOS, but I had
a question and was wondering with the new iOS 13.1 and the enhanced shortcut
capabilities if it were or if it’s been possible to initiate a call from a
VOIP app/service strictly with a voice command? I mainly use Hangouts or
Skype for business calls and would like to just speak out loud the number I
need to dial and have it go through one of these services as I don’t want
the recipient to see my actual cell number on their ID but rather my
business line.

So, can you create a shortcut for something like … hey Siri. Skype or
Hangouts XXX-XXX- or hey Siri. Skype or Hangouts business X, Y or Z? 

Not that it’s a huge deal to manually punch in a number, but sometimes I
have to make lots of calls and just being able to bark out the command
instead of going into Hangouts or Skype and entering the number would help
my workflow.

Thanks,

 

 

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RE: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yeah dude, you just gave everyone your cell...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

Hi Carolyn;
As my subject line says it looks like you are  quoting Padre Pio.
 please get in touch with me?
I would love to talk with you about this subject.
Padre Pio is responsible for bringing my girlfriend Lucy and I together.
(856) 885-1730

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth

[Cristobal Muñoz]

It’s been forever since I had to pare my Bluetooth IP, but from what I recall, 
yes. There’s a paring process that involves a button on the actual device.

Don’t remember which one or where it is located though. Maybe someone else on 
this list can further help if it’s not easily researched online.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Instant Pot Bluetooth

 

Am I suppose to hit a button on the pressure cooker to set up the Bluetooth 
with the app?

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

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RE: Issue with iOS 13 and Voice Dream Reader

[Cristobal Muñoz]

No clue. I just copied and pasted what they blasted out on Twitter. Whatever 
the tweet says. 
You could always follow up with VDR for clarification. Again though, as they 
say, it's for older devices. Didn't exactly specify what is considered "older", 
but there you go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issue with iOS 13 and Voice Dream Reader

Does he mean any file with text--so EPUB, PDF, etc, or just text files?

On 9/24/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> I have an XR so likely won’t be affected by this, but for those who 
> have older devices… Straight from the dev’s mouth on Twitter as they 
> say…
>
> Voice Dream,  iOS 13 loads text much more slowly than iOS 12 due to a 
> change to iOS (UITextView). We tried everything to address this but to 
> no avail and reported to Apple. If you read large text files on an 
> older device, you should hold off updating.
>
>
>
> HTH
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Issue with iOS 13 and Voice Dream Reader

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I have an XR so likely won’t be affected by this, but for those who have
older devices… Straight from the dev’s mouth on Twitter as they say…

Voice Dream,  iOS 13 loads text much more slowly than iOS 12 due to a change
to iOS (UITextView). We tried everything to address this but to no avail and
reported to Apple. If you read large text files on an older device, you
should hold off updating.

 

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RE: VoiceDream and the Rotor

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Probably, but all I'm saying is that I at least don't find it to be all that 
disruptive or that it suddenly makes things less efficient. 
Anyway, looks like there was another update today in fact and the rotor actions 
still appear to be gone. So who knows.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
Carlson
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: VoiceDream and the Rotor

I assume this is a bug; it's always been in the app and I have no idea why it 
would be removed on purpose.

On 9/23/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> I noticed it too. Can't say it makes it less efficient to use though. 
> I mean, it's just a quick button tap to edit/delete like lots of other 
> apps do to edit items.
> I've more than once accidentally deleted something in apps when 
> tapping and swiping and flicking real fast so for me, it's not that 
> big a  deal that this rotor action thing is gone.
> Different strokes for different folks and all that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: VoiceDream and the Rotor
>
> I just updated to VoiceDream 4.9.1. I am still using iOS 11.4.1 and 
> will hopefully update to iOS 13.1.
>
> When I updated, I notice that now in the list view of books there is 
> no action item in the rotor. So, I cannot turn the rotor and get 
> options for deleting, moving, or interacting with the book in 
> question. The only way to do it is to click "edit" and the select the 
> book and get to the menu from there. I have already let the developers 
> know about this. Was this an intentional change? it makes the app much less 
> efficient to use.
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RE: VoiceDream and the Rotor

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I noticed it too. Can't say it makes it less efficient to use though. I mean, 
it's just a quick button tap to edit/delete like lots of other apps do to edit 
items. 
I've more than once accidentally deleted something in apps when tapping and 
swiping and flicking real fast so for me, it's not that big a  deal that this 
rotor action thing is gone.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
Carlson
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceDream and the Rotor

I just updated to VoiceDream 4.9.1. I am still using iOS 11.4.1 and will 
hopefully update to iOS 13.1.

When I updated, I notice that now in the list view of books there is no action 
item in the rotor. So, I cannot turn the rotor and get options for deleting, 
moving, or interacting with the book in question. The only way to do it is to 
click "edit" and the select the book and get to the menu from there. I have 
already let the developers know about this. Was this an intentional change? it 
makes the app much less efficient to use.

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RE: Exercise equipment and GymKit

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Another piece of equipment I was checking out was the Concept2 rower. It comes 
in two models. D and E. I think the only difference is that the E version sits 
up higher at 20 inches instead of the 14 inches on the D and some other small 
upgrades for a $200 bump.

My understanding is that they both come with an adaptor to monitor your 
performance that can sync to Bluetooth devices and where you can export your 
workout data.

>From the looks of it, the Concept line always gets top billing for best home 
>rowers out there without going into the more pricey models that can run 
>upwards of $3000 plus. 

I believe I even came across an AppleVis forum where someone asked about 
accessible rowers and someone mentioned that the wireless adaptor concept2 
thing is completely accessible.

In general though, I think the most we as blind end users are going to get is 
the ability to access our workout info after the workout. I don’t think I’ve 
come across anything that somehow allows to monitor a workout on any of these 
machines in real time or the ability to navigate the menus for different 
programs or profiles and such.

My Nautilus for example can have four different profiles. Weight, height, 
goals, etc. All that sort of stuff though is inaccessible to me. My wife had to 
input all that in and basically, my profile is the default and whenever she 
jumps on it, she just switches over to hers and back to mine when she’s done.

My Schwinn recumbent bike is touch screen. I just marked it up for the basics., 
Resistance, time, etc for when I just want to do a manual workout, but I still 
use my wife’s eyeballs if I want to do a preset program. Easy enough if she’s 
around or if she’s not home or whatever, we just facetime and she guides me 
through the options. 

Since it’s an older model, what I’ll sometimes do is set a timer on my iPhone 1 
or 2 minutes before the program is set to end and facetime her so she can read 
me my statistics at the end.

I know not everyone’s got a pare of live-in or willing eyeballs, but for the 
bike at least, this inelegant solution has more or less worked for me so far.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise equipment and GymKit

 

Thanks, Cristobal and Dan, I have heard about these subscription based workout 
gadgets and that part doesn’t interest me at all, but it would be nice to have 
access to some of the information GymKit measures, I’ll continue to look into 
this a bit, as I said, I wouldn’t mind finding something, but if it takes 
another year and maybe by then GymKit makes its way into the home fitness 
equipment market that’s OK, too, I have a feeling Apple didn’t create this only 
for professional gyms.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Exercise equipment and GymKit

 

The only bluetooth enabled piece of workout equipment I currently own is my 
Nautilus 618 treadmill. Mainly to sync my workouts with the Nautilus app and 
Apple health. As far as actually manipulating the treadmill via my phone… It’s 
still the various buttons on the machine itself. 

I’ve got a Schwinn recumbent bike that I’ve had for going on 12 years and while 
I’ve looked into some stationary bike upgrades with Bluetooth, I can’t say 
there’s really been anything that’s jumped out at me. I’ll probably ride that 
bad boy until it gives up the ghost.

I mean, there’s the Peloton line of equipment, but accessibility aside, it also 
comes with a premium price tag as well as a monthly subscription.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Exercise equipment and GymKit

 

Hi,

 

My wife and I may be in the market for some sort of home gym equipment, most 
likely a stationary bike to start with.

I am not in a big hurry with this and just thought I start checking into this 
and what works or does not work with the Apple ecosystem since we both have 
iPhones and Apple Watches, our new series 5 watches have shipped and I would 
certainly give priority to any equipment which supports this as long as it is 
also of good quality.

One quick Google search brought up an apple Insider article about GymKit which 
was released 2 years ago, but while about 6 or 8 manufacturers are listed, the 
article also says that this for now is only available in professional equipment 
and is not available in home equipment. They mentioned one piece, can’t 
remember if it was a stationary bike or Stairmaster, but they said something 
about it costing $14,000 which is cert

RE: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I'm staying put on my XR, but we're likely finally upgrading my wife from her 
6S. 
We have a side business of arbitrage on eBay and Amazon as well as flipping on 
local apps so for her, a good camera would help. Not that the 6S doesn't even 
take half bad pics, but finally making the four year jump in camera 
capabilities can only help. That and since she's often out and about scanning 
and sourcing for merchandise, a faster phone and bigger screen is just going to 
be better at this point.
Our initial impulse is to just go for the 11, but I wonder if going up to the 
Pro Max would be worth it.
She's got a regular camera as well, but as many camera aficionados often say, 
the best camera is the one you happen to have in your hand. 
I help her out where I can, but she's obviously the photographer for stuff she 
finds when sourcing and for her, being able to snap a pic, upload to the cloud 
and edit right a way on one device is just way more convenient than taking pics 
on a stand alone device then transferring and so on.
Man though, that's a big jump from $750 to $1250. 
We'll see.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

And if you were to add up what you spend say over 4 years I can guaranty that 
it is a lot more than what you would pay if you bought an iPhone, set it  up on 
a decent plan from a good MVNO and just used it for that time.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

A lot of people are doing that same thing with phones now to. With T-mobile you 
can jump to a new phone and they will start your payments over once the phone 
is half way paid off. I got in on this early on, so my plans lets me two it 
twice in a 12 month period no matter how much has been paid on the phone. This 
plan didn't hang around very long, but those of us who got it while it was 
offered were grandfathered into it and can keep it as long as we want.

On 9/16/2019 3:58 PM, lenron brown wrote:
> Ha the people I know that get new cars every year lease them. They are 
> for sure not financing them. You would be upside down in the trade in 
> most likely.
>
> On 9/16/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> Some people buy new carsevery year.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
>>> that is like saying, update your phone every year, whether or not 
>>> you need it, as the next phone will always get more updates.
>>>
>>> I’m sure apple will love you.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Marie
>>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>>
>>> Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS updates whereas the 11 
>>> will get five or six.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>> From: Marie
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>>
>>> Remember this is one opinion.
>>> the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster processor, better camera 
>>> abilities (which may or may not benefit us) and the possibility of 
>>> using the coming Apple tags. There may be a few other improvements 
>>> so if you want the new phone and can afford it, I say, “Go for it!”
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Fazil
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>>
>>> Thanks much for clearing my doubts!
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>>
>>> Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do it is in my opinion 
>>> a waste of money to upgrade to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id 
>>> and a faster processor, maybe better battery as well, but apart from 
>>> this there isn’t anything the iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Fazil
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>>
>>> Hi, list.
>>> I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
>>> If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be  missing 
>>> anything from 11-Pro or ProMax?
>>> My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and 
>>> video in 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I 
>>> pay for something that I don’t use?
>>> Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro

RE: [External] Re: apple keynote

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I should have said control+tab if we're being all technical about it. Jaws 2019 
and Outlook2016. 
Either way, it seems that whatever was going on has resolved itself.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] Re: apple keynote

I have occasionally experienced this with extremely large threads. However, I 
was able to press enter on all the emails in this thread and read them as well 
as delete them. I am not sure what you use which requires you to press tab to 
get into the body of an email, why not just press enter to open a message? 
Anyhow, if I did experience this and still wanted to read the message I could 
usually work around this by pressing control + R to reply to the message, this 
would usually not crash Outlook and I could read the message since it was there 
in the reply I started, then I would press escape to quit replying and I could 
then press delete to delete it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
Steve
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] Re: apple keynote

Same here

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
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Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
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1-888-335-5951 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Munoz
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] Re: apple keynote

So weird. For the last few emails in this thread, every time I try to tab into 
the body to read them in Outlook  with Jaws, it crashes the program. Anyone 
else experiencing this? I finally had to go in with my iPhone and delete the 
thread. In fact, I am writing this email with my iPhone.

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually, first consideration for us was an 8, but I figured for a little 
> more, we'd get two to three years more use, and the better battery life is a 
> plus. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Keith Bierman
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple keynote
> 
> virtually none of the new hw features have corresponding apps yet (the ultra 
> wideband/indoor location chip for example) ... it will be interesting to see 
> what the next six months will bring. Also many of us aren't on an annual 
> upgrade program ... but obviously everyone needs to make up their own minds, 
> based on their needs and typical use cases ;>
> 
> Keith Bierman
> khb...@gmail.com  
> 303 997 2749
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:45 PM Alex Stone   > wrote:
> 
> 
>i completely agree.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:16, Joney   > wrote:
>
>
> 
> The only reason I could see to update any of my items this year, I 
> have a 10 SX max, and iPad Pro, and the series for watch, would be to have 
> the year of Apple TV+ to see if I like. Otherwise, I don’t think there’s a 
> reason to update anything that I bought from last year
>
>
>Joney
>talk2o...@gmail.com  
>"If God can bring you to it, 
>He will lead you through it."  
> 
>On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel   > wrote:
>
>
> 
>If you have a 4th gen Apple Watch there really is no reason to 
> upgrade and even the upgrade from a third generation is probably not that 
> necessary. However, if you have a second generation as my wife and I do then 
> I think the upgrade to the fifth generation is well worthwhile, I rarely even 
> wear my Apple Watch any more because it is so slow and such a pain. One thing 
> I do hope is that on the newer hardware and with Watch OS 6 they were able to 
> fix this constant locking which is probably what drives me crazy the most. 
> Sometimes I simply want to flick to some complication and it takes me 3 or 4 
> tries because every time I wake up the watch and start flicking it 
> immediately locks again.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:28 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>Subject: Re: apple keynote
>
>im not sure I’ve heard all the details, but the Apple Watch 5 
> didn’t sound 

RE: apple keynote

[Cristobal Muñoz]

One thing to remember too is that iPhones have that reachability gesture as 
well as the ability to shift the keyboard to a left-handed or right-handed 
configuration. I find myself using these more than I thought I would at first.
I'm a fairly big guy with hands proportion to my size, but still, I too don't 
particularly care for the larger size phones, but these workarounds Apple's 
built into the phones do help a little. Instead of being terrible, it only 
mildly sucks.
I'd be one happy dude if my XR could fit into a 6S or SE, but that ship has 
sailed and there's no reason opining on what clearly isn't going to happen or 
waiting around for the same.
Apple would probably just say buy the 8 or use the features mentioned above.
My wife's got a 6S and we're probably going to upgrade her to the 11 this year. 
She's sighted and wants the larger screen size. Big sucker phone  be damned. 
She says she'll figure it out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple keynote

I also have small hands but changing from the eight to the X, there was barely 
any noticeable difference. I have no problem with the size.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple keynote

Yes the 11 pro is pretty much the same size as the x. My hands are not
huge and the 7plus fits just fine.

On 9/11/19, Marie  wrote:
> Richard,
> I did not see the dimensions for the 11 Pro on the Apple site. Are you
> saying it is the same as the X? I hope that is the case because it is what 
> I
> am used to and I am planning on trading the X in on a new 11 Pro.
> Marie
>
> From: Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>
> It is the third consecutive year of these rumors.
> Davy
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>
>
> No iPhones as small as the iPhone 8 or 8 plus.
> iPhone 8 was 4.7 inches diagonal, the 8 plus, 5.5 inches.
> the iPhone xr 6.1 and the new iPhone 11 is also 6.1.
> The iPhone 11 Pro is 5.8 or the pro Max is 6.5
> It has been rumored that next year they may come out with an SE sized 
> phone;
> but nothing official from Apple.
>
>
> Richard
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
>
>   On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
>
>   I would like to know that as well. I have an iPhone 8, and would like 
> to
> stay with that form factor.
>
>   Andy
>
>   - Original Message - From: 
>   To: 
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:35 PM
>   Subject: RE: apple keynote
>
>
>   Did they come out with a new iphone the size of the apple SE?
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf
> Of Kelly Pierce
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:51 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: apple keynote
>
>   this year the innovation for blind end users was in iOS.  the big change
> in the phones themselves was in the camera and an enhanced Face ID.
>
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RE: smart wifi instant pot

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I mean, I've had the bluetooht model for something like a year and a half and 
love it.
I use it probably 3 to 5 times a week. 
The way technology goes, I fully expect the actual appliance to outlast the 
smart cooker app. But, I'll deal with that eventuality when it happens.
If it really is available for $70, I'd certainly consider getting it if I 
didn't already have one.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart wifi instant pot

Here's the link, though reading the reviews makes me hesitate:

https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Smart-Programmable-Discontinued/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=smart+bt+instant+pot&qid=1568225165&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Joe

On 9/11/19, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> Where on Amazon is this 69 dollar Instant Pot?  I have the Bluetooth 
> model and think it works just wonderfully.  In fact, I have the Smart 
> Cooker app on a phone that doesn't get updates so it should be safe for a 
> long time.
> I'd love to by another one of them.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
> Paulo Coelho - Poet-Writer
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Robert Wright
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:11 AM
>   Subject: RE: smart wifi instant pot
>
>
>   Since I just received my Smart wifi yesterday I can tell you that 
> all the
>
> app does is alert you that you have done something with the cooker. No 
> where
>
> is there as detailed information as they give in the Smart Cooker 
> app.The Bluetooth is available on Amazon for $69. They do alert you 
> that it has been
>
> discontinued.
>
>
>
>**
>
>   Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>
>   the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what 
> if you
>
> get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
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>
>
>
>   From: Cristobal Munoz
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:07 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: smart wifi instant pot
>
>
>
>   The Wi-Fi model only works with the instant pot recipes  app. The 
> smart cooker app is for the Bluetooth model that is no longer sold. 
> For what it’s
>
> worth, there was an update to the instant pot app yesterday. I have no 
> idea
>
> whether accessibility was improved though.
>
>
>   On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Robert Wright 
> 
> wrote:
>
> What do you recommend? I saw the Smart cooker app but it did not 
> find my
>
> pressure cooker
>
>
>
>  **
>
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>
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RE: ira going free

[Cristobal Muñoz]

In an ideal world, it would be available in as many countries as possible, but 
one can only imagine the additional overhead Aira would incur by trying to 
staff up with enough multi-lingual or exclusively Spanish speaking agents. That 
and honestly, how many blind/VI iOS folks are there in Mexico or Latin America 
in general that can afford to use this service? Probably not enough at this 
moment to make it a viable option for Aira to offer.

I work in the interpreting field. I don’t personally deal with or offer 
telephonic interpretation through my company mainly because it is such a hassle 
and can get prohibitively expensive. As an example, for Spanish speaking 
telephonic interpretation, agents can get paid 30 to 50 cents per minute. This 
isn’t even considering more specialized fields like medical or legal fields 
where a certification may be required. Not to mention issues like what’s 
referred to as localization in the industry. I.E. Mexican Spanish isn’t 
necessarily the same as Spain or Argentinian Spanish etc. These same issues are 
present with English I’m sure for them, but again, you’re probably going to 
have a wider pool of English speaking iOS users and agents and a more universal 
vocabulary that Aira’s already spent resources on to properly train for.

I’d like to be proven wrong, but I at least for now don’t see how they can make 
it work financially in the motherland.

I don’t personally use Aira, so don’t know their terms of service, but have you 
considered maybe accessing it via a VPN? Seems like BeMyEyes would be a more 
immediate and accessible option in the interim as well. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ira going free

 

What a disappointment it’s not available here in Mexico! I’ve Emailed Aira to 
see what can be done about it though. I was really looking forward to giving it 
a try! I’ve heard so much about it over the months that it sounds interesting 
and useful overall!

 


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  para Windows 10

 

De: Paul and Paula Jordan  
Enviado: jueves, 15 de agosto de 2019 10:31 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Asunto: ira going free

 

Since I got a complaint about the long list of email recipients and since I’m 
still not sure if this is a hoax or not, I’m sending the text of the message I 
received earlier in my inbox.  If it is a hoax I apologize in advance. 

 God bless!

The day we've been waiting for is finally here.

 

 

 

Aira is free everywhere and at any time.

 

 

 

Let that sink in For a moment!

 

 

 

Aira. Is. Free.

 

 

 

Starting today, you can make short calls to Aira agents for free, everyday.

So whenever you are doing those small daily tasks where a little information 
can save a lot of time, we've got you covered.

 

 

 

We know, we can't hardly believe it ourselves!

 

 

 

There is no catch. So long as the call is relatively quick (5 minutes), its 
free. Just make sure you have the latest version of the app on your phone.

As this is the early version of the service, we ask for some patience if you 
come across any hiccups, along the way, or if we end up making some minor 
tweaks further down the line. We are so excited to get this out into the world 
that we just couldn't wait any longer! The important thing is to remember that 
Aira is free now and will always be free.

 

 

 

Want to learn more?

 

 

 

The best way to learn is to Use the Aira app and connect with an agent-you can 
aske all of your questions and it won't cost you a thing. If you are not on a 
plan, that's great! You can now make short calls for free to Aira agents every 
day and everywhere. You're no longer limited to using Aira in just access 
locations or with access offers (those are still good to use if you want to do 
something that will take more time, like explore a museum.

 

 

 

If you are on a plan

 

 

 

That's great too! You can use your daily free short calls to help make your 
plan minutes stretch further. As the first (5 minutes) are free.

 

 

 

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literally!

 

 

 

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RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I remember reading a post on one of those TechCrunch or The Verge or Lifehacker 
sites maybe two weeks ago that gave a cheat sheet on how to tell what type of 
iOS device you've got by the first letter the IMEI or serial number starts with.
I off hand don’t' recall exactly how it went, but I'm sure a quick internet 
search will bring it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Sieghard, 

In my case, I was handed the original box from which I removed this device, 
said box having the devices ID numbers and such on it's label.  This is what 
prompted me to ask about the phone as I assumed it would be a refurbished 
model.  I was told that, had they any refurbished models, then I would have 
been given one; however, as it turned out, they did not so, hence my new phone.

Now, as to your statement, I must ask, how on earth did you determine that your 
replacement device was, in fact, a refurbished model?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding 
Streaming Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating 
to the Latest iOS Version

I have been told that my replacement phone was new when in fact it turned out 
to be refurbished. I am not saying this is the case with yours, but this has 
been my experience in the past. On the other hand it doesn't really matter 
because for all intends and purposes an Apple refurbished phone is as good as 
new anyways.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Resolution to: RE: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming 
Audio to the Apple EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the 
Latest iOS Version

Hello All, 

Well, I took my 8 Plus into the Genius Bar, today and they quicly determined 
that the Lightning port had some bad pins.  As a result, just 3 months before 
my Apple Care Plus warranty is to expire, I received a brand new iPhone 8 Plus. 
 They were quick to point out that this is a new phone and not a refurbish one. 
 So much the better, eh?  

To be honest, I was planning on getting a new phone this coming fall but, if I 
don't see a model about which I am particularly enthusiastic, I will probably 
stay with my 8 Plus.  We shall see.

I am so glad that I took the phone in and had it checked out.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iPhone 8 Users, Regarding Streaming Audio to the Apple 
EarPods Through the Lightning Port After Updating to the Latest iOS Version

Hello Fellow iPhone 8 Users,

For whatever reason that I cannot discern, ever since I updated to the latest 
version of iOS, I cannot reliably listen to audiobooks / streaming audio/ or, 
some days, even audio sound through the included wired Apple Earpods on my 8 
Plus, via the Lightning port.

I have no problem accepting that my phone has a damaged port but my inability 
to consistently reproduce the issue gives me great pause.  And, "yes," I have 
thoroughly cleaned the port and I have tested several different sets of EarPods 
on the 8 Plus.  For the record, none of my EarPods have this problem on any of 
my other devices.  

And again, this issue did not occur until after the update.

Ultimately, I will take the phone into Apple, as it continues to be under 
warranty but I wanted to post the question here, just to see what kind of 
replies I receive.  

Yes, I've already called Apple and, true to form, they deny any knowledge of 
any such glitch.  Please be aware that on the very first day that the 8 series 
was released, there was a boot-up problem which I immediately identified and 
reported to Apple.  They, of course, denied the boot-up glitch until about 1 
year later when they finally fixed the problem with a later version of iOS.  
They continued to deny the boot-up glitch even after hundreds and hundreds of 
reports came in from all across the world.  Now the glitch was not devastating 
and, in the end, it did not impact the use of the phone to the extent that one 
would return it to the store but the glitch existed and Apple denied its 
existence.  Actually, they did finally admit to the issue about 9 months in but 
only to beta testers.

Sometimes I feel as though my beloved 8 Plus is seen as being a second-class 
device in the Apple orchard.

RE: updating

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but over 
all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4. 
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with iOS 
10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to lose, but 
even then, there's probably an alternative available at this point and who's to 
say how much longer an app or service that only works with older versions of 
iOS will continue to work? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was very 
much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving performance 
and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. During the keynote 
they actually specifically mentioned this and showed how much better iOS 12 ran 
on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop support 
for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit architecture. This 
means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth generation and earlier. If 
you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer work on any of those devices or on 
newer devices which haven't been upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend you 
update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:

1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your apps 
are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your phone off, 
wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General > Software 
Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes and the phone 
has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is a lot of stuff 
going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then in the morning I 
would do another reboot of your phone and you should be fine and most likely 
you will notice your old phone is snappier than before.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in iOS 
12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes as 
well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers tend 
to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




 On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
> 
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've 
> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said 
> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his 
> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
>   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App 
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the 
> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice 
> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the 
> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I 
> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine 
> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately, 
> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a 
> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
>   Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve 
> it?
> 
> Deidre
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RE: is there a way to get price alerts sent to my iPhone on Amazon’s prime day?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I use Price Pulse and while there are some accessibility issues, it's more or 
less accessible. Mainly use it for price alerts for stuff in my wish list.


-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is there a way to get price alerts sent to my iPhone on Amazon’s prime 
day?

hi,
Amazons prime day is Monday and Tuesday. Is there a way to get price alerts 
from Amazon sent to my iPhone? I have previously tried camel Camel camel, but 
ran into significant accessibility issues. I have not yet retried it, but that 
was last year or two years ago.
Any insights will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Keith

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RE: Issues with 10R

[Cristobal Muñoz]

None of those issues on my XR either. That said, I bought my phone back in 
October a week after it came out and the first phone I was given was booty. I 
had to go back the next day to get another one. So yes, you sometimes can get a 
lemon instead of an apple.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues with 10R

 

No, I have a ten r and thankfully, I have not experienced any of that. I have 
not heard of anyone else who has either, which doesn’t mean it’s not happening. 
Maybe he’s just got a bum phone.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Mr. Ed mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net> > wrote:

Hi,

I have a friend that has a 10R iPhone. He said he cannot get on iCloud, he said 
he cannot dictate with VO on. And numerous other issues. He said he has 
contacted Apple disability and they check out the phone and was unable to fix 
it. Another person from Apple was going to contact him to see if he can solve 
the issue. I assume Apple tried to restore the iPhone but not being able to 
connect to iCloud that was not available to them. Of course this is what I kind 
of understood from this friend who owns the phone. So my question is has anyone 
who owns a 10 R had any issues with their iPhone like this?

Again I am getting this info second hand and I do not know how much my friend 
understand what apple has done to try and fix the iPhone. I told him if they 
cannot fix it, it  should be under warranty and they should replace it if they 
cannot fix it. 

Mr. Ed  

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RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed. I switched over to Gmail as soon as I could and they became widely 
available. I once had a Verizon email address through my DSL until I switched 
over to Earthlink. Dear God, what a Pain. Never again.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Fair enough, this is one reason why I have recommended Outlook.com (formerly 
Hotmail) or Gmail accounts for a long time rather than going with your 
provider's email account. I personally prefer Outlook.com over Gmail, but that'
simply personal preference, I guess iCloud and Yahoo would also fall into that 
category of third-party, permanent accounts but as you said, Mark, Yahoo had 
that big hack and I have noticed over the years that if somebody's email got 
hacked it often was a Yahoo account. The huge advantage of these providers is 
that you get your account once and it's yours for the rest of your life 
regardless of who is your internet service provider.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Sieghard,

When one has a third-party email address set as the Apple ID, then notices and 
such are sent to that email address.  Now, if that particular email account is 
hacked, unstable, or is accessible via POP3, only, one may want to change it.  
This was definitely the case when all of those @yahoo.com email addresses got 
hacked a few years back. In other instances, a person may have used the email 
address associated with a company with which he is no longer doing business; 
say switching wireless providers.  In those instances, instead of using yet 
another third-party email address, one may choose to use an Apple-owned domain. 
 Yes, one can setup aliases but that can be confusing for some.

It's just a matter of choice.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

What is the advantage of creating an iCloud email if you already have an Apple 
Id?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

HI Mark, 
While I greatly appreciate this, if I have to go through all that, just to 
create an email account, forget it LOL!  Smile! What is a rescue  email 
address? Apple already has my current email address, if that is what you mean.  
When I was trying to create the new account, I had to enter my Apple id, as 
well as my password, one might think that should be enough though, but I guess 
not.  I wonder why I wasn't asked for all this information during the set up 
process though.  I did do some searching online, and I did see from an Apple 
web site that some people have been getting the same message I get when trying 
to create a new account, and according to the Apple site, this has been going 
on since 2012.  Matter of fact, one suggestion I got was to turn off and back 
on the date and time feature in settings, and power off and back on the phone, 
so I did that, but no go either!  Another suggestion was to sign out of iCloud 
and sign back in, power off the phone, and power back on, and go back to the 
mail, and my new iCloud email would be there.  So, if I was to sign out of 
iCloud, then I would have to sign back in, enter my Apple id, enter my 
password, enter my security code, turn several phone features back on, that I 
already had on!  LOL!  I'm just wondering if all this is even worth it!  
Thank you so much though, but if I have to do all this, oh, it's not going to 
happen!  I will just stick with Outlook.com or my Gmail!  Smile!  

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Creating A Brand New Email iCloud account Question Please.

Hello Janet,

You know, in order to create a new iCloud email address, you must enter a 
rescue email address.  Once done, in order to proceed, you must open the 
verification email that was sent to your rescue email address and activate the 
embedded link.  

Also, I believe you must verify that you are a real person by solveing either a 
graphic or audio catcha.  

I created 3 new Apple IDs last week and I think that is how I did it.

Last week seems so long ago.  (smile).

Now if you are simply wanting to add an alias to an already existing account, 
that is something else.

M

RE: Food scale

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yes. There's a compartment on the bottom of the scale that you access by 
twisting off to plastic covering. This is the replacement battery I purchased 
back in April. Less than $5
ANSMANN Lithium Coin/Button Cell - LiCC 3V CR2477 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GGIKN8O/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_.NTdDb6DK0FNF
I use this scale pretty much every day. Multiple times a day. From making 
coffee in the morning to measuring out yogurt or quark or whatever or filling 
up a bottle of water to make fizzy water in my soda stream.
My wife and I sell on eBay and Amazon and she'll sometimes ask me to double 
check the weight on the smaller packages to make sure she's under a threshold  
with my scale. Again, it can get to the To the tenth of the gram or fraction of 
an ounce. I'm sure though that any other smart kitchen scale can do the same 
thing.
I like this scale because the actual scale screen in the app is nice and clean 
and uncluttered.
I had at the time also tried a scale called the perfect kitchen smart scale. I 
didn't go with it because the scale itself felt pretty cheap and the screen in 
the iOS app was rather busy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Food scale

Yeah I don't think I meant to post at all so I must have hit send when I wasn't 
meaning to do that. Sorry for the clutter for sure.
I do have one question though about the Drop scale so I must have been thinking 
about posting and decided not to then. I'm assuming about your comment on the 
battery that it was user replaceable? I've never seen even the small lithium 
batteries only last a year so I found that interesting. It does sound like a 
very workable option though. I fundamentally like the My Weigh scale but I have 
quite a time understanding it. I normally am pretty good with this stuff, but 
the other day she said 9 ounces and I would swear she said one, but I know my 
food weighed closer to 9. That's pretty bad though.

On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> If you posted something, I couldn't find it. Did you bottom post by 
> any chance?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Deb Cook Lewis
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Food scale
>
> On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> Indeed. This is the model I have. To be clear, my preference is to 
>> have a simple talking scale that doesn’t need to be connected to any 
>> device to work, but alas, I’m apparently  kryptonite to My Weigh 
>> talking scales.
>>
>> The Drop Kitchen scale measures to the tenth of the gram and from 
>> what I can tell, is pretty accurate. There is a button the the scale 
>> itself where you can zero out the weight and when in the scale 
>> screen, if you are on the actual element that gives the weight, VO 
>> will speak it in real time as you add or subtract whatever it is you’re 
>> measuring.
>> Focus may end up at the top of the screen however if you get an alert 
>> or if you take a heavier item like a bowl or plate off the scale. It 
>> isn’t always, but it does happen every now and then. I recently 
>> changed out the battery after a year of usage. It cost me less than 
>> $5. The scale can weigh up to 6 KG. More than enough for kitchen 
>> purposes.
>>
>> For powdery things like flour or whatever or if I know I’m going to 
>> get my hands dirty and even though my phone’s an XR so in theory it 
>> should be able to handle a little moisture or dust, I’ll still maybe 
>> slip the phone into a little zip lock or sandwich bag to avoid 
>> getting it gunked up or dirty.
>>
>> I hadn’t heard of the smart chef scale, but it also sounds like an 
>> interesting option.
>>
>> The Drop Kitchen scale also promotes itself as a cooking tool as I 
>> think you can use it with a separate recipe function, but honestly, 
>> I’ve never even bothered with that part of it since it was the scale 
>> aspect I was looking for.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Food scale
>>
>>
>>
>> There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and 
>> seems to like it.
>>
>> I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how 
>> well it would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of 
>> automatic read outs.
>>
>> I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight 
>> instead of adding them by cup or t

RE: Food scale

[Cristobal Muñoz]

If you posted something, I couldn't find it. Did you bottom post by any chance?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Food scale

On 6/22/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> Indeed. This is the model I have. To be clear, my preference is to 
> have a simple talking scale that doesn’t need to be connected to any 
> device to work, but alas, I’m apparently  kryptonite to My Weigh talking 
> scales.
>
> The Drop Kitchen scale measures to the tenth of the gram and from what 
> I can tell, is pretty accurate. There is a button the the scale itself 
> where you can zero out the weight and when in the scale screen, if you 
> are on the actual element that gives the weight, VO will speak it in 
> real time as you add or subtract whatever it is you’re measuring. 
> Focus may end up at the top of the screen however if you get an alert 
> or if you take a heavier item like a bowl or plate off the scale. It 
> isn’t always, but it does happen every now and then. I recently 
> changed out the battery after a year of usage. It cost me less than 
> $5. The scale can weigh up to 6 KG. More than enough for kitchen purposes.
>
> For powdery things like flour or whatever or if I know I’m going to 
> get my hands dirty and even though my phone’s an XR so in theory it 
> should be able to handle a little moisture or dust, I’ll still maybe 
> slip the phone into a little zip lock or sandwich bag to avoid getting it 
> gunked up or dirty.
>
> I hadn’t heard of the smart chef scale, but it also sounds like an 
> interesting option.
>
> The Drop Kitchen scale also promotes itself as a cooking tool as I 
> think you can use it with a separate recipe function, but honestly, 
> I’ve never even bothered with that part of it since it was the scale 
> aspect I was looking for.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Food scale
>
>
>
> There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and 
> seems to like it.
>
> I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how 
> well it would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of 
> automatic read outs.
>
> I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight 
> instead of adding them by cup or table spoon, tea spoon etc. If I need 
> 500 grams of flour I usually use a cup measurement to put it in the 
> bowl which is on the scale, I have one of the MyWeigh talking scales. 
> After I put on a bunch I wait for a couple of seconds and the scale 
> tells me the weight, then I can add a bit more etc. I would have to 
> know for sure that with something like the Drop Kitchen scale or any 
> other which may exist I could have the app open and Voiceover focused 
> on the right area and I would get virtually instant and automatic read 
> outs, I would not want to have to touch the phone.
>
> I think Cristobal and others said that the MyWeigh talking scales keep 
> breaking on them, I had my first one for at least 15 and maybe as long 
> as 20 years, it then didn’t work any more and I contacted MyWeigh and 
> they send me a new one for just a relatively small shipping fee of I 
> think $20 or $25 Canadian. I definitely call this good customer 
> service and doubt that Drop provides such a long warranty (I didn’t 
> even have my original receipt or record of purchase any more).
>
> I have now had that new model for about 2 years and it’s been working 
> flawlessly.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> probably about
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of pdlloga...@gmail.com <mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: 'Vi Phone'  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>
> Subject: Food scale
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a food scale that will connect to the IPhone and 
> give readings on the phone?  Just wondering as I need to replace a 
> scale, and was thinking if available I’d go the smart route.
>
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RE: Food scale

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed. This is the model I have. To be clear, my preference is to have a 
simple talking scale that doesn’t need to be connected to any device to work, 
but alas, I’m apparently  kryptonite to My Weigh talking scales.

The Drop Kitchen scale measures to the tenth of the gram and from what I can 
tell, is pretty accurate. There is a button the the scale itself where you can 
zero out the weight and when in the scale screen, if you are on the actual 
element that gives the weight, VO will speak it in real time as you add or 
subtract whatever it is you’re measuring. Focus may end up at the top of the 
screen however if you get an alert or if you take a heavier item like a bowl or 
plate off the scale. It isn’t always, but it does happen every now and then. I 
recently changed out the battery after a year of usage. It cost me less than 
$5. The scale can weigh up to 6 KG. More than enough for kitchen purposes.

For powdery things like flour or whatever or if I know I’m going to get my 
hands dirty and even though my phone’s an XR so in theory it should be able to 
handle a little moisture or dust, I’ll still maybe slip the phone into a little 
zip lock or sandwich bag to avoid getting it gunked up or dirty. 

I hadn’t heard of the smart chef scale, but it also sounds like an interesting 
option.

The Drop Kitchen scale also promotes itself as a cooking tool as I think you 
can use it with a separate recipe function, but honestly, I’ve never even 
bothered with that part of it since it was the scale aspect I was looking for.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Food scale

 

There is one called the Drop Kitchen scale, Cristobal has one and seems to like 
it.

I like smart stuff but this is one item where I am not so sure how well it 
would work and especially how responsive it is in terms of automatic read outs.

I bake a lot the European way which means ingredients get weight instead of 
adding them by cup or table spoon, tea spoon etc. If I need 500 grams of flour 
I usually use a cup measurement to put it in the bowl which is on the scale, I 
have one of the MyWeigh talking scales. After I put on a bunch I wait for a 
couple of seconds and the scale tells me the weight, then I can add a bit more 
etc. I would have to know for sure that with something like the Drop Kitchen 
scale or any other which may exist I could have the app open and Voiceover 
focused on the right area and I would get virtually instant and automatic read 
outs, I would not want to have to touch the phone.

I think Cristobal and others said that the MyWeigh talking scales keep breaking 
on them, I had my first one for at least 15 and maybe as long as 20 years, it 
then didn’t work any more and I contacted MyWeigh and they send me a new one 
for just a relatively small shipping fee of I think $20 or $25 Canadian. I 
definitely call this good customer service and doubt that Drop provides such a 
long warranty (I didn’t even have my original receipt or record of purchase any 
more).

I have now had that new model for about 2 years and it’s been working 
flawlessly.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

probably about 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
pdlloga...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:26 PM
To: 'Vi Phone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Food scale

 

Does anyone know of a food scale that will connect to the IPhone and give 
readings on the phone?  Just wondering as I need to replace a scale, and was 
thinking if available I’d go the smart route.

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RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed. It more sounds like if sighted people are telling you that they’re 
using screen curtain, they’re most likely messing with you.

There’s no real conceivable reason why a sighted person would use this specific 
accessibility related feature for the blind as opposed to say another general 
accessibility one that may lend itself to a more mainstream application. 
Regularly encountering its usage by sighted folks in the wild also sounds  
charitably speaking … implausible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Hi Sieghard and Janet,

I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all 
those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on 
to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not 
ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using 
screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our 
experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to 
using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.

I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you 
can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature 
which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a 
stand-alone accessibility feature.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Sieghard and all,  

Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using 
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using 
it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often.  
I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason 
I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if 
they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off.  Maybe some 
sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the 
screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted 
person wants to use an accessibility feature.  Although, I have noticed most of 
them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or 
like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the 
screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen.  They 
might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want 
to, so be it!  

So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
all are certainly entitled to our own opinions.  

Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
people know about the screen curtain?

I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that 
includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to 
show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my 
employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when 
Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a 
button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times 
until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, 
but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or 
“your screen doesn’t work”.

I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
people where you handed 

RE: Great Bluetooth headphones

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I actually do this all the time. Usually my Trekz Air or if I’m plugged into my 
PC the Trekz Sports with microphone and my Plantronics 5500 earpiece in one 
ear. 

The Plantronics connected to my business iPhone and the bone conduction ones 
either to the PC or my main iPhone. 

Kind of like the audio version of picture in picture.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Great Bluetooth headphones

 

Hey Sieghard,

Don’t laugh. I have had two headset on at the same time. One to talk to my 
friend and one to listen to the NASCAR race. Do you have a  live camera 
watching me. LOL

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Great Bluetooth headphones

 

Hey Ed, always thought you were a strange one, now you let the secret out 
yourself, you  have 3 heads 🤣😂😏

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Great Bluetooth headphones

 

Hi,

Try looking at the Logitech H800 wireless headset. They are Bluetooth and also 
have a small nono that you can plug into any pc. They are very light and have 
great sound for the price. You can answer phone calls on the iPhone and talk on 
Facetime with them. They run about six hours or so on a charge. I have three 
sets and have use them for many years with my iPhone and pc.

Mr. Ed

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel

Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:21 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Great Bluetooth headphones

 

Hello everyone,

 

 

I appreciate that this subject has been brought up. I have been wanting to 
purchase some bluetooth earphones.

 

However, I really don't want to pay a crazy amount. I would like to find 
something under $100, that will sound good, and have a great battery life. If 
such a thing exist.

 

 

I am looking for a pair of over the ear. But I also would consider the kind 
that loop around your ear. I am sorry, but I don't know the correct term for 
these. I don't really care for ear buds. I can't stand the ones that come with 
the iPhone. Those things never stay in my ears. It's rather annoying. LOL!

 

 

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. I have tried looking on Amazon. I 
get a bit overwhelmed though. There are so many options.

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

Terri

 

On 6/11/2019 11:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:

> Consider the Aftershokz Trekz Air bone conduction headphones.

> 

> Andy

> 

> - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" 

> mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >

> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 5:45 AM

> Subject: Great Bluetooth headphones

> 

> 

> Hi all. I’m looking for a good pair of Bluetooth headphones. I’d like 

> them to have low latency, as little sound blocking, outside sound, as 

> possible, and as much battery life as possible. Any ideas?

> Thanks.

> 

 

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RE: free online tv services

[Cristobal Muñoz]

If you have a friend or family member who has a Netflix or Hulu family plan, 
you could ask them if they could add you as well. My wife’s the main account 
holder on both services, but I have my own account under her with my own watch 
history and recommendations.

Off hand, I think Netflix allows up to 4 or 5 members on such a plan. Don’t’ 
quote me on that though.

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: free online tv services

 

Hello:

Does anybody know of any online free tv services that are accessibil for the 
Ipad?

I tried to use Pluto tv could not get around on it.

Thanks any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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RE: To Vickie. Re: new mini IPad

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup. I’ve got an old BestBuy Visa card I don’t really use that much because the 
interest as with all store branded cards is really high. One plus about it 
though is that I can finance stuff with it on conjunction with my elite plus 
status for anywhere from 12 to 18 months at zero interest.

My wife’s got an iPad Pro 2017 model and we’re thinking of upgrading her 
depending on what comes out later this year. I can probably spread out the 
payments on a larger purchase like that with zero interest via BestBuy as 
opposed to anywhere else including Apple. Otherwise, we’d probably get it 
straight from Apple.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Vickie. Re: new mini IPad

 

I replied to the thread not specifically to your message simply because Vicky 
asked “What is it called on Amazon”. This prompted me to ask why she would want 
to buy it on Amazon.

There are certain products where the manufacturer is extremely strict as to 
their retail price where I think it is best to buy them from the manufacturer 
directly unless of course somebody maybe had a gift card for a store which also 
sells the product.

Another example where buying elsewhere could make sense is that a particular 
large chain like Best Buy or Target which sells the product for the same price 
because they must may offer a deal such as that you get one of their gift cards 
as a bonus.

 

your message bec

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: To Vickie. Re: new mini IPad

 

Hi Sieghard. I think you are replying to the wrong person. lol.

 

I was just answering Vickie’s question.

 

I didn’t tell her to buy it from amazon.

 

I purchased mine from apple.

 

I agree with you, that she shouldn’t purchase it from amazon.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 2:36 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: To Vickie. Re: new mini IPad

 

Why would you want to try and buy something like this on Amazon? You should buy 
the latest model which was only released recently and unless there is something 
weird going on you won’t find it cheaper on Amazon than you would be able to 
buy it directly from Apple. If you buy it directly from Apple it will 
automatically be registered on your Apple Id and should anything go wrong I 
think it is much easier to deal with Apple about it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:37 AM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: To Vickie. Re: new mini IPad

 

Hi Vickie. It’s called, the iPad Mini 5th generation. It’s the only new iPad 
mini, that was released this year.

 

I find it an excellent device, and much faster, than previous iPad minis.

 

It has a regular home button, plus a regular 3.5 headphone jack.

 

I have the 64 gig model, and very happy.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: Vicki W.   

Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 12:18 PM

To: IPhone   

Subject: new mini IPad

 

I am thinking about purchasing the new mini Ipad and I am wondering how people 
are doing with it and exactly what it is called on Amazon.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: VoiceOver Accessability Bug Fixed in Latest Release of Capital One Mobile app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup, but now the Creditwise option and home/profile tabs at the bottom don't 
show up. On my XR at least, it just says branch/ATM twice and that's it.
The only reason I even noticed the Creditwise thing missing is that I got an 
email alert from Capital One about how my email was discovered on the darkweb 
and to log into Creditwise to learn more.
Of course, the one time I want to use that feature on my phone...

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Accessability Bug Fixed in Latest Release of Capital One 
Mobile app

Hello Everyone,

Well, the subject line says it all.  

With the latest release of Capital One Mobile, released earlier today, for iOS, 
the VoiceOver bug, reported by many of us, has been fixed.

Download and enjoy,

Mark

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RE: Questions regarding Ebooks

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup. I too have the old version of Kindle for PC, but at this point, I rarely 
find myself having to use it with Codex. Either Bookshare or audio, but mainly 
if I want an eBook, I can usually score it from the library via Overdrive. At 
first I was downloading in Kindle format via the Amazon partnership with 
libraries until I realized that more often than not, you can download the same 
title in ePub format as well cutting out that entire process.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Ebooks

 

 

Sorry for confusing you. 

He has not updated Codex; so I have a link to an older version of Kindle for PC.

I only use Kindle to convert books so I can read them in Voice Dream Reader, so 
I really don't care if the Kindle for PC is any good so long as I can download 
the books and convert them.

Granted, I do that very seldom because I usually find what I want on Bookshare; 
or in an audio version.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

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flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:21 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi richard,
Do you mean that you have a link to a newer version of Kodex that works with 
the accessible Kindle? Or do you mean that you have a link to an accessible 
version of Kindle that should work? I know that Amazon for a long time said 
they had an accessible version of Kindle, but it was horrible. Then they came 
out with the new accessible version of Kindle, which is much better. I would 
hate to give that up, and I know at the time it was stated that the codex 
wouldn’t work with that. So I’m kind of confused.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Mary, 

On my web site, under the Useful Apps link, I have a link to the accessible 
version of Kindle that should work.

I probably need to uninstall and reinstall to make sure.

Richard

 

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in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Richard,
It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not work 
with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? If so, 
I would really like details.

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Here is a slightly long answer. 

You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.

If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.

If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the 
books are available through Bookshare.org 

 .

Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.

HTH,

Richard

 

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RE: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Not necessarily. It’s not like a 5S will just stop working or at least stop 
working with apps right away. Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will probably 
drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll likely be a 
while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the impact. 

If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to 
upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that the 
simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things like 
performance.

Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should give 
consideration to upgrading your phone period.

Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the 6S 6S+ 
and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year older got the 
axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14 next year. If you 
follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years of OS life cycles 
with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are beyond your budget.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users 
Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

 

Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you advise 
as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please:  
pretty please!

 

   Jewel

 

From: Richard Turner   

Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM

To: ViPone list   

Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

 

These are the devices that will support iOS 13:

 

iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE

iPod touch (7th generation)

In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.

 

Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
supported:

 

12.9-inch iPad Pro

11-inch iPad Pro

10.5-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro

iPad (6th generation)

iPad (5th generation)

iPad mini (5th generation)

iPad mini 4

iPad Air (3rd generation)

iPad Air 2

This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
3, as well as the original iPad Air. 

 

from:

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/

 

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RE: apple killing ITunes?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Oh come on. Stop.
This is just wild and I mean "wild" speculation. 
I mean, Smart TVs are starting to get Apple TV apps built into them, but 
sure... Apple's going to at the same time cut off an entire market of Windows 
users just cuzz...
There's already an iTunes app for the Windows store. They'll probably announce 
something later in the summer for Windows. Be it Continued Windows desktop 
support, new Windows store apps, but I seriously, seriously doubt they're going 
to just say ... bye Felicia to Windows period.
Either way, it's all just speculation. Let's just wait and see on what they 
actually do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. 
Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some point, I 
figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more sales of the 
Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have iPhones and have 
bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for phones that will work 
with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend Sieghard and I disagreed on this 
point a while ago, and so far he's been right, but I'm still thinking time will 
prove me right eventually!


On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had 
> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also 
> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store 
> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will 
> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but 
> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>
> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>  From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually 
>> been replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as 
>> music, podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to 
>> hate, and ever since Apple has offered the ability to download 
>> content via WIFI folks just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC 
>> but for years the only thing i have used it for was to make backups 
>> of my phone, and I will miss having that ability, even though I guess you 
>> can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>
>> Andy
>>
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>>My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple 
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>> app or windows program. Anyone heard anything?
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RE: InstaPot with iOS

[Cristobal Muñoz]

This is not it.
The one you're looking for is: 
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Smart-Electric-Pressure/dp/B0777XQ4S8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Instant+Pot+wifi&qid=1559584256&s=home-garden&sr=1-3
To be clear, the Bluetooth model was a first generation one. I have this one. 
Regarding the wifi model, mileage will vary. Some folks say it's accessible or 
at least accessible enough with the iOS app. Whereas others will say otherwise.
I have nothing but good things to say about my Bluetooth model. I use it easily 
4 to 5 times a week. Not that the appliance is anything special, but simply 
that the app accessibility is solid.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: InstaPot with iOS

Hi,

Is my understanding correct that only certain models of the InstaPot work with 
iOS, and if so, which models are these? There's a deal today on Amazon. I'll 
paste the link below, but I can't tell whether or not this is Bluetooth 
capable. Thanks for any help.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CYMYK6?ref=dotd_h_t&ref_=pe_837390_412812140

If anyone has helpful alternatives to this product series, I'm open to 
suggestions.

Joe

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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Cristobal Muñoz]

It's basically a less feature rich iPhone 7, but at iPad Mini/ cheap iPad Air 
prices.
That and come on Apple. What are you doing still selling anything new with 32 
GB?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPod touch announced

Sieghard or anyone else: Can someone give me a quick run-down of what makes the 
new ipod touch different from the ipod touch 6? Sieghard, I agree with you. I 
wouldn't expect apple to put their best chip in an ipod touch. Like you said, 
people are going to complain either way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPod touch announced

Going from an iPod Touch 5th Gen to this newly announced model would be a huge 
difference, the 5th generation iPod touch has an A5 chip which is even a step 
down from the iPhone 5 which had an A6 chip which means  it was far from 
supporting 64 Bit.
I know people complain why Apple didn't put their latest A12 chip into the iPod 
Touch, but the same people would probably complain if Apple did and it would 
cost $50 or $80 more, also, I have a feeling that for what most people use an 
iPod Touch for simply does not require such a powerful processor.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

You will notice a definite difference from the five. Enjoy! I have a 6th gen, 
which has a speed difference from my fifth.

> On May 29, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking about getting one.  I have the 5th generation ipod touch.
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
> 
> You could possibly use it for beta testing if you're into that. Or a 
> streaming device. Yeah I don't know why they did the A7 instead of the A11 or 
> A12.
> They should at least have put in the A11 chip.
> 
> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
> contact information and I will happily add you.
> maria.reye...@icloud.com
> 
>> On May 28, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update 
>> of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that 
>> is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just 
>> like my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, 
>> except the space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 
>> for 400. Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 
>> chip. That is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, 
>> but my gut reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. 
>> They should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really 
>> disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but 
>> now that I see that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
>> 
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RE: Problem with the capital 1 app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed, I already left feedback regarding this. Also, with the recent update, 
you can no longer access rewards balance be it in points or cash back.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
Barton
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 6:37 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Problem with the capital 1 app

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, do any of you use the capital 1 app?  I have been using it for quite a 
while but recently found a huge issue.  So i log in, and go to 1 of my cards. I 
double tap on it, and normally i could swipe and it would tell me my current 
balance and available credit.  It’s not doing that.  It keeps saying possible 
text.  Any thoughts, did capital 1 screw something up in the accessibility, 
anyone else seen this?

 

Cheers,

 

Jed

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RE: Fantastical

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yeah, I mean, the other calendar apps do announce the timeslots after the 
subject line. I suppose it isn’t an issue if you’re talking about all day 
events or the odd appointment, but like I said and for me, it may be a pretty 
unique situation, but dealing with hundreds of appts, where I have to listen to 
whatever is in the subject field (which can be a lot depending on what’s there) 
as well as the location address every single time before getting to the actual 
time really is becoming a no go.

I’m probably going to have to transition back to Google Calendar or something 
then.

Ah well..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastical

 





Here is the reply I received from Flexibit Support about changing the order VO 
speaks appointment info.

Hi Richard,

There's no way to customize the order of information spoken by VoiceOver, but 
it may make sense to swap the date/time and location when spoken. We'll give 
this some thought and see if that makes sense.

Thanks,
Kent






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On May 6, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hi, I'm copying Fantastical help with this. 

I think this would be a great feature. To be able to customize the order in 
which appointment info is spoken.

Unless I'm mistaken, this is not currently possible.

But maybe the folks at Flexibits could chime in and let us know if this is even 
possibly on the drawing board?

Richard

 

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On May 6, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Cristobal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Let me ask this…

So I have multiple calendars I have to manage. Some for business, other’s 
personal and family, etc.

I’ve found for me at least, using different calendar apps for different 
calendars helps to keep things separated/better organized rather than 
enabling/disabling calendars or otherwise flagging or assigning a color to them 
in one app.

I’m currently using Fantastical for some business appointments I need to keep 
track of. 

All in all it’s fine, but the one issue I’m coming across and is proving to be 
somewhat of an annoyance is that the way this app reads the appointment 
information, is that it’ll speak the subject line content, then the address 
info before getting to the actual appointment time.

I have to manage easy 200 appointments a month all at different times. Is there 
any way in Fantastical to change the order in which information is spoken with 
VO? I know with other apps/services, this can be done, but doing a superficial 
browse through the app settings, I didn’t immediately come across somewhere 
where I could rearrange this type of info announcement.

Is it just me or is the ability to do this simply not there?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Fantastical

 

You can also dictate a new appointment through Siri,  as if you were using the 
Apple Calendar App, and the  appointment will be entered into Fantastical. I do 
this all of the time.

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Terri Stimmel mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello Richard,

Thank you so much for this great description of the app. I really appreciate 
it. That 

RE: Fantastical

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I mean, to be fair, numbers 3 and 4 really aren't exclusive to Fantastical, but 
rather simple functions that can be done from any app if you've got them 
properly configured. I know there's a custom option for alerts, but off hand, I 
can't recall how versatile it is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastical

Here are some reasons why I love Fantastical II:
1. You can set appointments and reminders in the same app.
2. There are more options for when you are alerted before an appointment, than 
the native iOS calendar, such as 10 minutes, 45 minutes, 1 to 12 hours, and 
between 3-7 days, or the ability to pick a certain date. I have used this to 
set several alerts 12 hours before a fasting blood work doctor appointment, to 
set a reminder to call my doctor a month ahead of time so I can get on their 
calendar, and so forth.
3. Whatever changes you make in Fantastical are immediately reflected in the 
native calendar, and vice versa.
4. If you have multiple calendars, like one for home, work, and family, you can 
specify which calendar an appointment appears on. I have started doing this to 
keep home, work and family appointments separated.
5. And the list goes on.
In many ways, Fantastical is like other calendars one may use, but I love how 
they appeared to take what's good about other calendars and put it in one 
system. I bought it several years ago and haven't regretted the purchase.

Wayne

On 5/6/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi, I'm copying Fantastical help with this.
> I think this would be a great feature. To be able to customize the 
> order in which appointment info is spoken.
> Unless I'm mistaken, this is not currently possible.
> But maybe the folks at Flexibits could chime in and let us know if 
> this is even possibly on the drawing board?
> Richard
>
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> The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and 
> miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
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> don't have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On May 6, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Let me ask this…
> So I have multiple calendars I have to manage. Some for business, 
> other’s personal and family, etc.
> I’ve found for me at least, using different calendar apps for 
> different calendars helps to keep things separated/better organized 
> rather than enabling/disabling calendars or otherwise flagging or 
> assigning a color to them in one app.
> I’m currently using Fantastical for some business appointments I need 
> to keep track of.
> All in all it’s fine, but the one issue I’m coming across and is 
> proving to be somewhat of an annoyance is that the way this app reads 
> the appointment information, is that it’ll speak the subject line 
> content, then the address info before getting to the actual appointment time.
> I have to manage easy 200 appointments a month all at different times. 
> Is there any way in Fantastical to change the order in which 
> information is spoken with VO? I know with other apps/services, this 
> can be done, but doing a superficial browse through the app settings, 
> I didn’t immediately come across somewhere where I could rearrange this type 
> of info announcement.
> Is it just me or is the ability to do this simply not there?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sandy Finley
> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 5:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Fantastical
>
> You can also dictate a new appointment through Siri,  as if you were 
> using the Apple Calendar App, and the  appointment will be entered 
> into Fantastical. I do this all of the time.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> Thank you so much for this great description of the app. I really 
> appreciate it. That was very helpful. I think I 

RE: Fantastical

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Let me ask this…

So I have multiple calendars I have to manage. Some for business, other’s 
personal and family, etc.

I’ve found for me at least, using different calendar apps for different 
calendars helps to keep things separated/better organized rather than 
enabling/disabling calendars or otherwise flagging or assigning a color to them 
in one app.

I’m currently using Fantastical for some business appointments I need to keep 
track of. 

All in all it’s fine, but the one issue I’m coming across and is proving to be 
somewhat of an annoyance is that the way this app reads the appointment 
information, is that it’ll speak the subject line content, then the address 
info before getting to the actual appointment time.

I have to manage easy 200 appointments a month all at different times. Is there 
any way in Fantastical to change the order in which information is spoken with 
VO? I know with other apps/services, this can be done, but doing a superficial 
browse through the app settings, I didn’t immediately come across somewhere 
where I could rearrange this type of info announcement.

Is it just me or is the ability to do this simply not there?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastical

 

You can also dictate a new appointment through Siri,  as if you were using the 
Apple Calendar App, and the  appointment will be entered into Fantastical. I do 
this all of the time.

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Terri Stimmel mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello Richard,

Thank you so much for this great description of the app. I really appreciate 
it. That was very helpful. I think I will definitely try it again. I still have 
it on my phone.

Thanks again, it’s much appreciated.

Terri

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Well, I have used Fantastical since its early days. The developer is very 
responsive and took a partly accessible app and made it fully accessible over a 
relatively short time. 

It takes the information from the native calendar app and presents it in a much 
more useful way in my opinion.

In the month view, the top have of the screen is like a wall calendar or think 
of it like a braille calendar.

You have Sunday through Saturday across the screen and on the lower half of the 
screen is your appointments for the day you select.

When you add a new event, you can write out the information in one line and it 
will put the info into the correct fields.

For example" "Dr. Jones, 5/15/19, 1PM, 1 hour, at 155 Main street Los Angeles, 
CA"

Note, I separated each item with a comma"

When you then double tapped on the add button, The Appointment would be titled 
Dr. Jones.

on May fifteenth at 1 PM for one hour, the location would be the address...

Or, of course, you could go from field to field entering the start date, 
picking the time, and so on; but being able to write it out like one sentence 
is great!

The custom reoccurrences is better than the native calendar app.

There is more, but that to me is worth the $4.99.

Richard

 

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On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Terri Stimmel mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello again everyone,

I use my calendar App quite a lot. A while back someone mentioned the App 
Fantastical.

Well I was wondering, how does this App exactly work?
And how can it be helpful when dealing with the calendar?

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Can one setup an apple store account without credit card info

[Cristobal Muñoz]

You can use PayPal I believe as well as iTunes gift cards. The gift card thing 
is helpful say if you've are part of a family and you want to make in app 
purchases with games or whatever and not have to deal with it getting charged 
to the main account holder's method of payment, but rather have it come out of 
your iTunes credit.
I suppose you can also use one of those prepaid debit cards you can get at any 
gas station or grocery store and simply add funds to it as you go.

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Hello list
I am trying to help a friend to access the app store for the first time and he 
asks if one can create an app store account for downloading free apps without 
giving credit card info. Also, how does one setup an app store account on the 
iPhone. I did mine years ago with iTunes so I am not sure how to do it  on the 
iPhone.
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RE: IOS apps with smart appliances

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This is always my concern with such expensive items like this.

Let me ask, would you still be able to operate it independently should you have 
issues with your WIFI network or some other variable that would make Alexa or 
an associated app go wonky?

 

 

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We just bought a GE range with WIFI and Alexa connectivity and it seems to be 
working pretty well for me. The model we have is part of the Cafe line which 
also has washers, driers, dish washers and microwaves. I have no experience 
with any appliance except the range, but so far my experience has been 
positive. I suggest starting your search with the Cafe line. Also feel free to 
reach out privately for more indepth information if this is something you are 
seriously considering as these appliances are rather pricey. 

 

 

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On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I am on a similar search but for a range (cooktop/oven). I gave up a couple of 
years ago regarding an accessible, connected washer/dryer and bought a Miele 
set which is all buttons as in actual buttons you can feel although there are 
still options to select on a screen, but some of those are things you don't 
really need, sometimes an app like Seeing AI can pick it up and for those times 
when I actually have to use it and still need more help I just call Aira, Be My 
Eyes or my Mom using Facetime. For the most part my wife takes care of it, it's 
just once a year or so when she goes back to the Philippines for a few weeks 
when I have to use it independently.

I have come to realize that it does not seem like there is a range which will 
be fully accessible, I have seen some which have WiFi, but so far I have only 
ever read that you can only control the oven. Anyhow, I could see how it would 
also be pretty inconvenient if you cook and you want to quickly turn the 
temperature of a burner up or down a bit when you are busy doing other stuff , 
maybe your hands are dirty etc. This would not be a good time where you have to 
unlock your phone and fiddle around with an app, in such as case the only thing 
which would make sense is if you could Alexa/Google Home and give a quick voice 
command which would be carried out instantly.

One thing I did notice on the GE website was that they are talking about "ADA 
compliance" and one of our local stores actually send me an email after I asked 
them to look into something with analogue controls and said that some companies 
mentioned they had braille overlays for the touch screen. I plan to call GE 
tomorrow (if they are open) or Tuesday and hopefully find out a bit more. Their 
ranges actually get some pretty good reviews, so I definitely would like to 
chat with them.

I am always amazed that given the number of government organisations in 
existence as well as all the private advocacy groups and people that nobody has 
done more to work with the major appliance makers to find a better solution. I 
bet nowadays a lot of these appliances run some sort of version of Android and 
it might not take all that much to make them talk on their own.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Hello:

Has anyone used or tested the accessibility of the LG, Samsung or GE apps with 
WIFI enabled washer and driers? We are in the market to purchasing a new washer 
and drier and hoping to find something that is accessible with using the Apps 
given that most of the washers and driers these days have touch screens.

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