RE: Groups.io ?? no email

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

If you are a member of multiple lists (including this one), it could be that 
forum owners are sending massive bounce probes. Google says Gmail issues are 
being resolved for some, but it will take hours before things return to normal 
(in the sense of reality prior to a massive spike in traffic earlier today).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Groups.io ?? no email

 

I got 17 emails saying my account was bouncing. I usually get only one, not 17.

 

From: Robin Frost <mailto:robin...@outlook.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Groups.io ?? no email

 

Hi,

I'm reading reports that the google outage of yesterday was larger than first 
reported and many gmail users are still being impacted and are thus bouncing on 
numerous email list types of groups. This could sadly mean the original poster 
might not see my message either if they're not receiving email. But I just 
wanted to let them know it isn't just them and it isn't just this group.  Not 
sure how the outage specifically impacted Google groups but it definitely did 
impact gmail youtube and other services.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 12/15/2020 5:53 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Yeah I am on a number of lists through groups.io and there were a number of 
folks yesterday having this issue,

But there appears to be no issues today so I’m guessing it is all back up and 
working.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2020 5:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Groups.io ?? no email

Hi all,

Likely cause is failed Google services which are being restored. Several 
Groups.IO group owners (including I) are investigating and sending messages 
and/or bounce probes to affected members.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Groups.io ?? no email

Hi 

Grouips.io just bounced all my own groups so there are problems at this time.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 december 2020 16:17
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: RE: Groups.io ?? no email

I’d write the owner of the specific groups where you are not receiving email 
and make sure you are subscribed.

I assume you have checked your spam/junk folders.

Richard

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Subject: Groups.io ?? no email

I am not receiving any emails from Groups.io on either Outlook or WLM. Is this 
my problem or theirs?

Marie

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RE: Groups.io ?? no email

[Joseph Lee]

Hi all,

Likely cause is failed Google services which are being restored. Several 
Groups.IO group owners (including I) are investigating and sending messages 
and/or bounce probes to affected members.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Groups.io ?? no email

 

Hi 

 

Grouips.io just bounced all my own groups so there are problems at this time.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 december 2020 16:17
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: RE: Groups.io ?? no email

 

I’d write the owner of the specific groups where you are not receiving email 
and make sure you are subscribed.

I assume you have checked your spam/junk folders.

 

 

 

Richard

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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

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Subject: Groups.io ?? no email

 

I am not receiving any emails from Groups.io on either Outlook or WLM. Is this 
my problem or theirs?

Marie

 

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RE: Braille Note Touch plus and iPhones

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes and yes:
* BrailleNote Users list (I'm the owner and moderator of that list): 
https://groups.io/g/braillenote
* Using it with VoiceOver: a bit involved - you need to pair these devices, 
then until HumanWare or Apple fixes lock screen connection issue (where the 
iPhone or the BrailleNote will not connect from lock screen), you must manually 
toggle bluetooth from iOS.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Listserv Viphone 
Subject: Braille Note Touch plus and iPhones

Is it possible to connect a Braille note Touch Plus to an iPhone?  is there a 
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RE: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I'll forward this to a more appropriate list.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:15 AM
To: iphone grupo 
Subject: windows 10 boot camp. sorry if it is off topic to this group.




Hi
Can anyone know if the drivers pack for windows 10 boot camp is not available 
for download in the apple downloads support?
I tried to find this package, but the latest one is only for windows 7, 8, and 
8.1.
I prefer to download the drivers before the installation process.
Because in the installation process when arrives to download the software 
package of the drivers, the download does not work.
I never get the download during the installation process.
How to download the drivers for windows 10 boot camp?
Or is it necessary to download   the windows 10 drivers software 
package   during the boot camp installation process on windows 10?

Is it now possible to download the drivers during the boot camp process in 
windows 10?
Model, iMac 2013.
Some tips?
thank you all.


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RE: The manual for win 10 mark posted?

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

I took care of this offlist.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:00 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: The manual for win 10 mark posted?

 

Hi all.

I accidentally deleted the email for the win 10 update... can someone repost? 
Also... as to keep this on topic, has anyone been able to test this update with 
the new itunes? 

thanks. 

Jenifer Barr

Jenifer571 on dice world

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RE: Just a Quick Note to Those Using an iOS Device on Windows 10

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Mark,
Because of privacy setting issue, Microsoft pulled this update a few days ago 
and it's back, and for those who've had this problem, MS released a cumulative 
update.
On my system, iTunes seems to be running fine at the moment with no issues.
Cheers,
Joseph

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M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just a Quick Note to Those Using an iOS Device on Windows 10

Hello All,

There was recently a major update to Windows 10; what would be considered, in 
old terms anyway, a service pack.  This update should not have any negative 
impact on iTunes but it should be noted that the update does reset many/all of 
the Windows 10 privacy settings back to their defaults; said defaults being 
quite liberal in what information they allow to be shared with Microsoft.

Mark

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RE: windows 10 personal assistant on a desktop computer

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
My brief testing on both Windows 10 and iOS shows quite a potential (iOS 
version isn't polished yet and you'll need a Microsoft Account to use it).
For Cortana on desktop: I think there is a better place to discuss this sort of 
thing:
http://groups.io/g/win10
I'll answer as to why Cortana nor other screen readers read reminders, as well 
as other accessibility considerations for Cortana and Windows 10 on that forum 
(not here).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
deidre muccio
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: windows 10 personal assistant on a desktop computer

Here are a few more comments from a screen reader using friend on how 
Cortana works on a desktop computer. I don't know how this compares with it's 
delivery on an IOS device. 
If you give Cortana a reminder, when the reminder time arrives it puts the 
reminder message on the screen, but does not read aloud what the reminder 
message is. It will open word pad, but my friend did not succeed in getting it 
to open documents or even internet explorer.
What he likes is that you can ask cortana what time it is, what the date is, to 
tell you a joke or sing you a song, or tell you a story.  You can ask it silly 
things, like do you love me, or what is your favorite color? If you ask her who 
her parents are, she says, "bill gates." 
you can ask Cortana things like, convert quarts to liters, or how many 
teaspoons are in a tablespoon, or how many miles equals how many kilometers, or 
just about any conversion you want. If you ask how old jimmy carter is, she 
will give the correct answer. If you ask her how old john denver is, she will 
reply with something like john denver was 42 when he died in 1987.
These are not the correct numbers - I just made them up by way of example. 
Cortana can also give you the dictionary's version of word definition, you say 
hey cortana to wake her up, then you say, define, and then say the word, and 
she's right on. And if you have some music in your documents folder, say maybe 
some beatles songs, ask cortana to play i wanna hold your hand, and she will! 
if cortana can't give you a quick and easy answer she will open a website that 
will probably help you find the answer you need!
According to my friend who I asked about this, another important note which 
might help some is that if you get windows ten, there is currently no screen 
reader that works good with windows ten. By default windows ten will use a new 
version of a browser, it it is called edge, to fix this press the windows key, 
then type in default programs, on the next screen you will be able to change 
the default back to internet explorer. My friend recommends doing this, since 
he finds that all the screen readers he uses work much better with internet 
explorer than with the edge browser!
It seems to me that Cortana is more a benefit than not.

Deidre

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RE: windows 10 personal assistant on a desktop computer

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
At least the iOS version (I think). I think we should wait for Cara to give us 
green light on this (I think these days, comparison posts on digital assistants 
such as Siri, Cortana and Google Now are quite a sensitive thread...).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: windows 10 personal assistant on a desktop computer

But Cortana Discussion ShouldBe applicable Here AsWell since there is a 
MobileApp for This MobilePlatForm

I think Questions pertaining to Cortana the MobileApp should be allowed

Not ALL Cortana Features CrossOver from Windows10-Windows10Mobile At 07:49 AM 
12/14/2015, you wrote:
>Hi,
>My brief testing on both Windows 10 and iOS shows quite a potential 
>(iOS version isn't polished yet and you'll need a Microsoft Account to use it).
>For Cortana on desktop: I think there is a better place to discuss this 
>sort of thing:
>http://groups.io/g/win10
>I'll answer as to why Cortana nor other screen readers read reminders, 
>as well as other accessibility considerations for Cortana and Windows 
>10 on that forum (not here).
>Cheers,
>Joseph
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of deidre muccio
>Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:44 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: windows 10 personal assistant on a desktop computer
>
> Here are a few more comments from a screen reader using  
>friend on how Cortana works on a desktop computer. I don't know how  
>this compares with it's delivery on an IOS device.
>If you give Cortana a reminder, when the reminder time arrives it puts 
>the reminder message on the screen, but does not read aloud what the 
>reminder message is. It will open word pad, but my friend did not 
>succeed in getting it to open documents or even internet explorer.
>What he likes is that you can ask cortana what time it is, what the 
>date is, to tell you a joke or sing you a song, or tell you a story.  
>You can ask it silly things, like do you love me, or what is your 
>favorite color? If you ask her who her parents are, she says, "bill 
>gates."
>you can ask Cortana things like, convert quarts to liters, or how many 
>teaspoons are in a tablespoon, or how many miles equals how many 
>kilometers, or just about any conversion you want. If you ask how old 
>jimmy carter is, she will give the correct answer. If you ask her how 
>old john denver is, she will reply with something like john denver was 
>42 when he died in 1987.
>These are not the correct numbers - I just made them up by way of example.
>Cortana can also give you the dictionary's version of word definition, 
>you say hey cortana to wake her up, then you say, define, and then say 
>the word, and she's right on. And if you have some music in your 
>documents folder, say maybe some beatles songs, ask cortana to play i 
>wanna hold your hand, and she will!
>if cortana can't give you a quick and easy answer she will open a 
>website that will probably help you find the answer you need!
>According to my friend who I asked about this, another important note 
>which might help some is that if you get windows ten, there is 
>currently no screen reader that works good with windows ten. By default 
>windows ten will use a new version of a browser, it it is called edge, 
>to fix this press the windows key, then type in default programs, on 
>the next screen you will be able to change the default back to internet 
>explorer. My friend recommends doing this, since he finds that all the 
>screen readers he uses work much better with internet explorer than 
>with the edge browser!
> It seems to me that Cortana is more a benefit than not.
>
> Deidre
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RE: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Alex,
Last time I checked on my 6 Plus, six dots is the default.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:11 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

Six dot is default on iPhones and iPods; eight dot is only for iPads. I'm not 
sure if it's for iPhone 6Plus units or not, but I'm thinking not.

Explore mode lets you move one or more fingers around the screen and hear what 
dots you touch. Just put one or more fingers down, leave them for a couple 
seconds, and there you go. Lift them all to leave this mode.

Calibration is something you generally don't need to worry about, but if you 
want to try it, just hit dots 4 5 6, then 1 2 3, right in a row. This seemed to 
help more in iOS8's early days, but I haven't had to do it in a very long time.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 21:44, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone. For some reason the screen input mode keeps changing to six 
> dot. Also how do you calibrate? How does explore mode work?
> Thanks so much.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Space: 1 finger to the right. Backspace, 1 to the left. New line, 2 fingers 
>> to the right. 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Paul Hunt  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:26 pm
>> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
>> indeed?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody. How do you enter special characters like the space bar, 
>>> the delete and enter keys?
>>> 
 On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Today,  its dead here, too. But yesterday, it felt like  an unreal dream. 
 Glad people have came across  it before.
 
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 From: Regina Alvarado  
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:47 pm
 Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
 indeed?
 
> 
> 
> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely 
> unreliable and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today 
> it is junk. Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is 
> like typing on mush.. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with 
> it since I love the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I 
> thought 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. 
> [smiley) 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its 
> as if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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RE: Recording audio

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes, it is possible. I use an app called Voice Recorder HD to record my 
tutorials, then transfer my recordings to my computer for editing.
As for file size, it depends on the desired recording quality. If you are 
aiming at a professional-style recording, you'll be looking at 10 MB per minute 
(about 600 MB per hour) in .wav format (44.1 KHz, 16 bits, stereo).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Terri S
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recording audio

Hello everyone,

I want to use my phone to record audio. Is this possible? Do I already have a 
program on my phone to do this, or what I have to download one?
Also, how much space with these recordings take up?

I have an iPhone 4s, is the 16 gig model. Any information would be very much 
appreciated.

Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Please help No voice over after updating to 8

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

At this point, try checking if status cells are enabled in VO/s braille
page. Reports state that when you enable status cells, VO will not come on
after you update to iOS 8. I had to install iOS 8 three times on my 4S (all
three of them being restore, with one of them under DFU mode) via iTunes
before VO came back on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please help No voice over after updating to 8

 

Hi I need help. I updated to IOS 8 from iTunes on the computer. All went
smoothly it took just under an hour.

Now to the trouble, I have no voice Over. My husband says it is on, I have
no voice over gestures, I have set the shortcut in accessibility.

Tried pressing home, and power button to reboot the phone. Tried shutting
down the phone and leaving it alone for a half hour.

I do not know what else to try, and I am panicked about now 

Please any help would be appreciated! 

Debbie Worstman

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RE: iPhone6:

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

There will still be a home button.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone6:

 

Can somebody please clarify this for me? Last night I got an email from a
friend asking how we will be doing things without the home button i.e.: will
there still be a way to start up voiceover the way we do with tripple click
home? But it had not come to my attention that there won't be a home button.
Is this true or is my friend mistaken?

 

Thanks.

 

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

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Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

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re: 5C or 5S?

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Hi,
Internally, they're two different phones.  The 5C is considered a 
mid-range phone in that it has all the features of iPhone 5 
except it is housed in a plastic case.  So think of 5C as a 
plastic version of 5, with 5S being the more capable brother to 
5C.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:17:10 -0500
Subject: 5C or 5S?

 HI guys
If for my and my parents' budget a 5S is nearly impossible, if I 
buy a
5C would I get the same benefits as a 5S? Sounds like a tongue 
twister
so let me try to explain: If i were to buy a 5C, would I have the 
same
processor speed as a 5S but in a plastic case, being able to use 
the

Alex voice in IOs8 for instance? Thanks for ideas.

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RE: using Apex to input text

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Lois,
Try pressing SPACE with D (FJK).
Cheers,
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Subject: using Apex to input text

Hi all,

I have figured out how to write text with my Apex QT.  I have to use Braille
keys.  What I can't work out is how to backspace.

I have done some research, and I see that dot 8 is supposed to backspace
when using the display with a computer, but it does not work for me with my
phone.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Lois



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RE: using Apex to input text

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Uh oh,... That's weird... Alex, any ideas?
Cheers,
josehp

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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:41 AM
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Subject: RE: using Apex to input text

Hi Joseph,

That seems to toggle contractions off and on.

Any other ideas I can try?

Thanks,
Lois


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Hi Lois,
Try pressing SPACE with D (FJK).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: using Apex to input text

Hi all,

I have figured out how to write text with my Apex QT.  I have to use Braille
keys.  What I can't work out is how to backspace.

I have done some research, and I see that dot 8 is supposed to backspace
when using the display with a computer, but it does not work for me with my
phone.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Lois



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Re: using Apex to input text

[Joseph Lee]

Hi David,
SPACE with BACKSPACE may not work for some people.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Re: using Apex to input text

Dot 7 with space will backspace.

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Hi all,

I have figured out how to write text with my Apex QT.  I have to 
use Braille

keys.  What I can't work out is how to backspace.

I have done some research, and I see that dot 8 is supposed to 
backspace
when using the display with a computer, but it does not work for 
me with my

phone.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Lois



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RE: Differences between compact voice and regular voice

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

Yes, as Alan said, it takes less memory.

From what I can tell, it sounds more like the new Vocalizer Expressive compact 
voice with hints of iOS 6 style compact voice.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences between compact voice and regular voice

 

Hello my old friend Neal.  First let me say it's nice to hear your voice again 
even if it does sounds like everybody else's!

 

Ok on to business.  The compact voice takes up far less space then does the 
high quality voice by a goodly bit.  If your hurting for storage space on your 
device, then go with the compact voice and save a little disk space.  On the 
other hand, if you still have the room, then go with the high quality voice.  
And, that's all subject to what your use to.  Sense I got my iPhone 5s, I like 
the high quality voice better but I also have the 64 GB 5s and so I have the 
disk space.  I hope this help some!

 

 

Alan

 

Sent from my iPad Air


On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

Well, this is very interesting. Here are two things I have discovered. Other 
people’s ears may hear it differently. I am listening to the voice with a 
professional set of headphones or, through professional speakers.

 

First, the compact voice is not as expressive as the normal voice. It’s pitch 
changes for certain words is less noticeable, but it’s certainly not robotic.

 

But here is the real surprise. The actual voice sound, to my ears, is better on 
the compact voice than it is on the regular voice. It is much smoother and less 
fuzzy. I don’t hear this as much through the iPhone speaker, but I can 
definitely hear it when connected to professional headphones or my professional 
sound system in my recording studio.

 

Very nice improvement to the compact voice. Now here is my question.

 

What is the reason for the compact voice in the first place. By suggestion, it 
would take less memory. Yes? No? If yes, I’m hoping I will notice it in the 
overall performance of my iPhone, or is this too much to hope for?

 

Thanks much.

 

Neal

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Re: Pairing a braille note apex with an iPhone

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Hi,
It is four zero's ().
Cheers,
Joseph


On 10/6/13, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:


 What pin do I type into my iPhone when I want to pair it with my braille
 note apex, no pin is displayed on the phone.Sent from my iPhone

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re: How do I lock orientation in iPhone iOS 7 using a for S

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Hi,
Open Control Center (three finger flick up from status bar).  The 
orientation lock is towards the middle.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:49:07 -0500
Subject: How do I lock orientation in iPhone iOS 7 using a for S

PS I did a search for Google on Google, but I could not find 
anything there either.  Sorry for the bad dictation, I don't have 
an braille on my phone right now.  Hi all, thank you very much 
for the help.  I restored my iPhone today, with the help of 
Apple, and I cannot figure out how to lock the orientation so it 
will stay in landscape.  I went into the app switcher and flip 
the pages but I could not find any lock button thank you again 
for the help God bless, Wren


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Re: Things to expect in iOS 7.0

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Hi,
I'm using 4S.
Cheers,
Joseph


On 9/19/13, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote:
 Hello Joseph:

 I cannot reproduce the two bugs that you list first in your bug list in the
 note below. My lock screen announces almost immediately after I hit the lock
 button. I also get appropriate prompts when I swiped three fingers right to
 unlock the screen. What iPhone are you using? I am using an iPhone five.
 Thank you.

 Bob Fenton

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 At the moment I'm running iOS 7.0 on my 4S (works well so far).
 For those who're planning to upgrade or in the middle of the upgrade, here
 are some things to expect:
 * Control Center: you need to first focus on the status bar then swipe up
 with three fingers.  From Control Center, you can change the following:
 Airplane Mode, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Do Not Disturb, AirPlay (if you're
 playing music), AirDrop (if you have iPhone 5 and iTouch 5 or later) and
 control music playback.
 * Container rotor: If you have iPhone or iTouch, when you first start iOS
 7, in certain controls, VoiceOver will play container entry sound (the
 same one that is present on iPad) to let you know you're in a container -
 a group of related controls.  You can move to different containers (or
 groups) by switching to container rotor and doing one finger flick down
 (nextgg/up (previous).
 * App Store: when you perform app updates, to see what's new in a given
 update, double-tap the name of the app.  Speaking of app updates, we have
 a number of app updates as expected, including Skype (which now allows you
 to join a group call straight from an iDevice), Twitter, Prizmo and so
 on.
 * New gestures: As Scott mentioned, VO adds a number of handy gestures,
 including VoideOver Practice (four finger double tap).  To exit this mode,
 do either: two finger scrub (back) or four finger double tap.
 * Notification Center: To restore old behavior of showing missed
 notifications, select All button (by default, it opens a calendar like
 view to show you what's coming up for today).
 * Settings: Cellular toggle is now on the main Settings screen between
 Bluetooth and Personal Hotspot.
 * Status bar: If you're connected to wireless networks, VoiceOver will now
 announce the SSID (name) of your wireless network (not to be confused with
 cell carrier network).

 Notable fixes:
 * Mail app focus issue: In iOS 6 series, when you open a message then
 return to InBox, VO went to topmost message; this focus bug has been fixed
 (in 7, after you close the message, it'll return you back to messages list
 with the currently read message on focus).

 Current bugs:
 * Screen lock: when you lock the screen, VO will take up to a second to
 announce screen lock. Previously, VO said this right after you press
 sleep button to lock your unit.
 * Unlock gesture: if you do three finger swipe right to unlock the device,
 VoiceOver will say, page 1 or (number) (usually 2).
 * Vocalizer stuttering: It could be just my device (or 4S in general), but
 when Vocalizer (the synthesizer used in VoiceOver) speaks, it has some
 stutter in it (could be due to the fact that Apple did experiment with
 Vocalizer Expressive Compact voice, so perhaps that remnant is present).
 (I might add that Vocalizer now has slightly better inflection when
 speaking).
 * Siri responses (except older devices): Previously, when Siri returns,
 VoiceOver would read everything, including what Siri would have said and
 the actual contents of the screen.  This is not the case in iOS 7 in that
 VO does not read what should have been read after Siri finishes speaking
 (for example, when querying weather, VO does not announce the forecast or
 current conditions, something it did before).
 Thanks.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

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Re: An easier way to unlock the phone

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Hi,
You can still use split-tap to unlock your device.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:08:21 -0700
Subject: Re: An easier way to unlock the phone

We seriously can't use the split-tap method to unlock our 
iDevices? Crap.  That's what I always use.  Well, I guess it's 
time to get used to something else.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


They took away the slide to unlock option.  Holding 1 finger on 
the screen and wile holding that single tapping with another 
finger doesn't work either.  My phone is setup not to require a 
password but I don't think that has anything to do with it.  I do 
remember reading somewhere that one of the most requested new 
features was to remove the slide to unlock gesture.  It use to 
say slide to opn or double tap.  Now you have to flick right 
twice and double tap.  Not easier just different.


I'm not sure that i like ios 7 all that much.  Maybe I'll like 
it more after I get my 5s.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still 
know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and 
performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks 
for listening!


- Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech 
joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: An easier way to unlock the phone


Hi Alan,

In IOS7, when pressing the power button to turn on iDevice, can 
you still
simply place your index finger right above the home button to 
access slide

to unlock then double-tap?

Joseph

- Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: An easier way to unlock the phone


Golly, I have ios 7 on my iPhone and no sliding, no fooling 
around.  I just
flick right twice to get to the unlock button and single finger 
double tap
that and I'm in.  Note: I have my phone set to not require a 
password.  Yes
I know that's a greater risk but I'll take that chance.  I have 
an iPhone 4.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and 
performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
formerly on my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Chuck Dean 
chuckd...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:27 PM
Subject: An easier way to unlock the phone


Hello all,
If you're having difficulty finding the unlock button on the 
screen as IM,
I have found that if you hold down the home button and tell Siri 
to open

an app, it will unlock phone and go directly to that app.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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re: Are Containers now an iPhone standard, or are they an option?

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Hi,
This one is an option (a rotor option to be exact).  To turn this 
off, go to Settings/General/ACCESSIBILITY/VoiceOver/Rotor.  
Container option is towards the bottom of the list.
Think of containers as areas or groupings of related controls.  
For instance, containers can be used to move to different Mail 
app controls without going through different message properties, 
such as jumping to navigation header, mail properties and message 
options (reply, forward, etc.) by using container flicks.

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:13:27 +
Subject: Are Containers now an iPhone standard, or are they an 
option?


Just curious.  If not an option, does anyone have help on how to 
best use them? I tried an iPad with them, and couldn't get the 
hang of them.


Thanks.  Keith

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not 
running too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is 
expected on 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart 
from 4, other iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and 
enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably 
focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of 
bugs in 7 would be in order).

Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
year, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
wrote:


It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would 
be even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly.  
I've read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am 
considering holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's 
experiences who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what 
experiences of people who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?


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Things to expect in iOS 7.0

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
At the moment I'm running iOS 7.0 on my 4S (works well so far).
For those who're planning to upgrade or in the middle of the 
upgrade, here are some things to expect:
* Control Center: you need to first focus on the status bar then 
swipe up with three fingers.  From Control Center, you can change 
the following: Airplane Mode, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Do Not Disturb, 
AirPlay (if you're playing music), AirDrop (if you have iPhone 5 
and iTouch 5 or later) and control music playback.
* Container rotor: If you have iPhone or iTouch, when you first 
start iOS 7, in certain controls, VoiceOver will play container 
entry sound (the same one that is present on iPad) to let you 
know you're in a container - a group of related controls.  You 
can move to different containers (or groups) by switching to 
container rotor and doing one finger flick down (nextgg/up 
(previous).
* App Store: when you perform app updates, to see what's new in a 
given update, double-tap the name of the app.  Speaking of app 
updates, we have a number of app updates as expected, including 
Skype (which now allows you to join a group call straight from an 
iDevice), Twitter, Prizmo and so on.
* New gestures: As Scott mentioned, VO adds a number of handy 
gestures, including VoideOver Practice (four finger double tap).  
To exit this mode, do either: two finger scrub (back) or four 
finger double tap.
* Notification Center: To restore old behavior of showing missed 
notifications, select All button (by default, it opens a calendar 
like view to show you what's coming up for today).
* Settings: Cellular toggle is now on the main Settings screen 
between Bluetooth and Personal Hotspot.
* Status bar: If you're connected to wireless networks, VoiceOver 
will now announce the SSID (name) of your wireless network (not 
to be confused with cell carrier network).


Notable fixes:
* Mail app focus issue: In iOS 6 series, when you open a message 
then return to InBox, VO went to topmost message; this focus bug 
has been fixed (in 7, after you close the message, it'll return 
you back to messages list with the currently read message on 
focus).


Current bugs:
* Screen lock: when you lock the screen, VO will take up to a 
second to announce screen lock. Previously, VO said this right 
after you press sleep button to lock your unit.
* Unlock gesture: if you do three finger swipe right to unlock 
the device, VoiceOver will say, page 1 or (number) (usually 2).
* Vocalizer stuttering: It could be just my device (or 4S in 
general), but when Vocalizer (the synthesizer used in VoiceOver) 
speaks, it has some stutter in it (could be due to the fact that 
Apple did experiment with Vocalizer Expressive Compact voice, so 
perhaps that remnant is present).  (I might add that Vocalizer 
now has slightly better inflection when speaking).
* Siri responses (except older devices): Previously, when Siri 
returns, VoiceOver would read everything, including what Siri 
would have said and the actual contents of the screen.  This is 
not the case in iOS 7 in that VO does not read what should have 
been read after Siri finishes speaking (for example, when 
querying weather, VO does not announce the forecast or current 
conditions, something it did before).

Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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iOS 7: Braille feature enhancements and caviots

[Joseph Lee]

Hi all,
For braille display users and braille fans: We have a number of 
feature enhancements for braille entry and output, including:
* You may need to pair with your wireless device again (at least 
this happened when I was trying to use my Apex, and iOS asked for 
the passcode).
* By default, English braille will be in UEB.  You can change 
this from VoiceOver's braille settings screen - there is a second 
screen which shows available braille tables (for English, these 
are Unified, US and UK).
* If you disable automatic braille translation, you wouldn't see 
what you're typing in braille on the braille display until you 
press spacebar key.
* A famous implementation (more towards a time-out) issue where 
VoiceOver would insert contractions while typing in the middle of 
a word has been fixed.  For example, if I type te, pause then 
type st sign (dots 3-4), before it would insert still; in iOS 
7, it types st.
* I can verify Scott's note that select all command doesn't work 
anymore.

Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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re: unlocking in ios7

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Hi,
Similar to older version, except that you can now unlock by doing 
a three finger swipe right.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
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Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:46:16 -0400
Subject: unlocking in ios7

Hey guys,
Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

Thanks,
Jed

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re: only app on a page

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Hi,
Ah, yes, FaceTime is now a separate app.  One way you can fix 
this is to group more than one app on the first home page into a 
folder.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com
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Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:24:35 -0400
Subject: only app on a page

Good evening.

Ok, well, here's my question.

Since doing the update I have one app that appears on a page by 
itself, in this case it's the passbook.  I tried moving it but it 
just sticks another on that page.  Is there a way to fix this?


Like I have the normal, message, calendar, weather and all that 
on page one, then passbook is on page 2 by itself, then contacts, 
videos and so on on page 3.


May and Prince Noah
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Re: iTouch 4Gen, no i OS7

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Hi,
Yes, iTouch 4 is a scaled down (and slimmer) version of iPhone 4 -
it's more of a hybrid between 3GS and 4 in that it has A4 processor
yet has 256 MB of RAM. iTouch 5 is again a hybrid design,
incorporating iPhone 5C's exterior and Lightning connector with
similar computing power to iPhone 4S a5 processor and 512 MB of RAM)
with camera of iPhone 4.
Cheers,
Joseph


On 9/18/13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought the iTouch four had less capable hardware than the iPhone four.
 That wrong? The for S and the iTouch five have the same processor I think.
 So it would make sense that they would both get it. Sorry you got the short
 end of the stick. My iPad one hasn't been updated since iOS 5. Frown.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, what a disappointment!  How did I miss over the last few Months that
 i OS7 isn't coming to the 4th Gen Touch.  I'm bummed!  I was looking
 forward to iRadio on that device.

 I wonder why iPhone4 got it but not iTouch4?

 :( Traci

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Re: ios 7 questions?

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Hello,
For questions 1 and 2, first locate the status bar, then do a three
finger swipe down or three finger swipe up for Notification Center and
Control Center, respectively.
For question 3: This is device-specific, but I find that VO is slow in
some areas, but in other tasks, it is same as iOS 6. What could help
would be to turn off motion-related settings
(Settings/General/Accessibility).
Cheers,
Joseph

On 9/18/13, Marissa Solaun solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello list!

 its been quite sometime since i have been on here:) i downloaded ios7 today

 for both iphone 4s  Iphone 4 that was extremely frustrating as the amount
 of people downlaoding this software impacted how long it took for me to
 install it, never the less i am happy with ios 7 but a few questions:

 1. how do you open / close the notification center from the lock and home
 screen?
 2. How do you close/ open the control center from lock and home screen?
 3. does anyone else notice that ios7 is kind of slow when using voiceover?

 Thanks
 Marissa

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Re: Wondering if anyone knows of an app to listen to air traffic communications?

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Hi,
Live ATC is accessible.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:51:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Wondering if anyone knows of an app to listen to air 
traffic communications?


Is it live ATC in accessible?
I was just wondering, because I heard it was.
Any tips would be appreciated.

Sent from my iPhone

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agtolent...@gmail.com wrote:


There's Live ATC.  It doesn't have everything, but there are 
enough streams to keep you entertained.



https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/liveatc-air-radio/id317809458?mt=
8


Sent from my iPad

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Hey all,
I was wondering if there is an app out there that will allow me 
to listen to air traffic communications?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris


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Hardware specs of iPhone 5S/5C

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Hi all,
Here are the tech specs of iPhone 5S/5C (based on a number of sources,
including Wikipedia and from previous specs published at Phone Arena
and others):
Common: As successors to iPhone 5, 5S and 5C has same internals as
iPhone 5 except for the following:
* Processor: 5C has same CPU as iPhone 5, whereas 5S has Apple A7
(based on latest ARM cores). Specifically, 5S has an Apple A7
dual-core 64-bit CPU clocked at 1.7 GHz (source: Wikipedia).
* 5S has authen Tech's fingerprint sensor and technology (Apple bought
this company last year).
* 5S supports both 32-bit and 64-bit apps (the oS (at least central
portions) is 64-bit).
* 5S adds a third color option - slate aluminum with gold coloring.
* 5C has plastic back with five color options: white, green, blue,
yellow and pink to match that of iTouch 5.
In summary, think of 5C as a low-cost and plastic cover version of
iPhone 5, with 5S being the step-up from 5.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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re: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth and

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Hi Donna,
What helps is to turn off or lock the first device before pairing 
with the second.  Note that Apex can pair and use two Bluetooth 
devices at once.
There is an active discussion going on the BrailleNote list where 
a member (who is a member of this list as well) cannot keep the 
connection alive (or, as he puts it, Apex drops the connection 
after few seconds).

Cheers,
Joseph
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From: tcors...@cfl.rr.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:55:43 -0400
Subject: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth and

I have both an IPad and an IPhone.  I recently got an Apex BT 32.   
It seems that when I get my apex and IPad finally paired and work 
with that for a while things go well.  Then, if I try to work 
with the IPhone after, the switch, I have to pair again.  So, I 
guess this is not very clear, but I am wondering how to use the 
apex successfully with both the IPad and the IPhone without 
having to go through the pairing each time.
Should I maybe completely turn off the device I was using with 
the apex and then let the other device pair on its own?  Or, am I 
asking too much to be able to use the devices without having to 
pair each time?


Hope my question is clear enough?

Donna
tcors...@cfl.rr.com

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Re: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth and

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
To subscribe, send an email with the subject of subscribe to:
braillenote-requ...@freelists.org
Then reply to the confirmation message.
Also, make sure that Apex is connected to only these two devices 
- go to Options, Connectivity, bluetooth, do not search for 
devices, and from list of devices, see if both your iPad and 
iPhone are listed as paired (and active).

Cheers,
Joseph

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:47:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth 
and


How do I subscribe to that Apex list?




Donna
tcors...@cfl.rr.com
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: re: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth 
and


Hi Donna,
What helps is to turn off or lock the first device before pairing
with the second.  Note that Apex can pair and use two Bluetooth
devices at once.
There is an active discussion going on the BrailleNote list where
a member (who is a member of this list as well) cannot keep the
connection alive (or, as he puts it, Apex drops the connection
after few seconds).
Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: tcors...@cfl.rr.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:55:43 -0400
Subject: Apex staying paired with IPad and IPhoneBluetooth and

I have both an IPad and an IPhone.  I recently got an Apex BT 32.
It seems that when I get my apex and IPad finally paired and work
with that for a while things go well.  Then, if I try to work
with the IPhone after, the switch, I have to pair again.  So, I
guess this is not very clear, but I am wondering how to use the
apex successfully with both the IPad and the IPhone without
having to go through the pairing each time.
Should I maybe completely turn off the device I was using with
the apex and then let the other device pair on its own?  Or, am I
asking too much to be able to use the devices without having to
pair each time?

Hope my question is clear enough?

Donna
tcors...@cfl.rr.com

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Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

[Joseph Lee]

Hi All,
For Chris: yes, you do need an Apple Developer account to install 
new iOS betas (including minor versions).  However, some websites 
claim that you can indeed install betas without ever being a 
developer (this has been confirmed; will not go there due to list 
rules, and please don't ask me either, as I prefer to wait until 
next month when it is released).
As for the entire thread, I'll post my opinions in a separate 
post.

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:11:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

Is this true? I wasn't aware that Apple used public betas for 
ISO.  It
was my understanding that IOS betas were private, you needed to 
buy a

developers license to get it and you were covered under an NDA.

I found it hard to find anything definitive with Google, since 
there's
so much information out there on IOS 7, but it does appear to be 
that
you have to be a developer to legally get access to an IOS 7 
beta.


On 08/24/2013 11:59 PM, kliphton wrote:
And based on the fact that the beta is available to the general 
public,

everyone is talking about it anyway?  JMO
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On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com
mailto:miller...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I뭗 like to think that that falls under an NDA, which means it뭩
illegal to disclose that info in that form until the release has 
been

made public.
Would a list moderator please clarify this for me? I take the
premature posting of things like this to public lists/forums 
extremely

seriously.


On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Joseph FreeTech
joseph.freet...@gmail.com mailto:joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
wrote:


HI All,

Earlier today I came across the following podcast demo from the 
Cool

Blind
Tech website.  Looks like IOS 7 has some cool new accessibility
features for
us.  The presenter Shawn is one of the most technically skilled 
people

I've
come across in the blind population of computer users.  He also
produced an
amazing podcast where he assembles a computer from scratch.  I 
was

glued to
the podcast as he placed a high-end I7 processor on a 
motherboard slot
without sighted help.  For those who don't know, a computer 
processor has
over 100 if not hundreds of pins the thickness of a human hair, 
and

each of
these micro pins must fit in the processor slot without bending 
even the

slightest bit.  This guy did it with eas!

Here is the IOS 7 info...

iOS 7 Beta Accessibility - CBT 51
In this Episode Shaun previews iOS 7 Beta.  Coming this fall, 
Apple's

iOS 7
started with a desire to take an experience people love and make 
it

better.
To make it even simpler, more useful, and more enjoyable - but 
still

feel
instantly familiar.  The design of iOS 7 is beautiful because 
it's all of

those things.  And it's the start of a new chapter for iOS.

Short URL:
http://bit.ly/12A5aVI

Joseph

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re: Pull down to refresh gesture with a Braille display.

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I believe it is 3-4-5-6.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
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To: VIPhone Email List viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:32:41 -0700
Subject: Pull down to refresh gesture with a Braille display.

I tried using the gesture to scroll the screen down, but it 
didn't work.  I think I'm right in saying that that gesture is 
space with dots 1-4-5-6.  any help would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks,
Ari

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RE: Using apex as Braille display

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Try SPACE with E.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Dulce Muccio Weisenborn d...@lifedesigns-inc.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:42 -0700
Subject: RE: Using apex as Braille display

When texting using a Braillesense OnHand, how do I type a line 
break or

carriage return?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using apex as Braille display

Carriage return, also known as enter, is either dot 8 chorded 
with space
bar, or e, dots 2 5 chorded with space bar.  Chorded means 
pressed at the

same time as.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 02/08/2013, at 2:43, Carol Pearson 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

wrote:

Silly me, I was writing in the middle of the night, having not 
slept!


I meant that I couldn't find the carriage return key, not the 
full stop

character.  Anyone help with this?

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch

On 1 Aug 2013, at 09:48 AM, john gallagher 
j...@pianotuner.plus.com

wrote:

hi carol is it dot 4 and six.  think that's what i use or it 
just could

be a normal full stop.  it's great when paired.

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Re: Moderator reminder about messages to the list

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
It stands for World Wide Developers Conference, an anual 
gathering of developers for Apple prodchts (iOS app writers 
included) to receive announcements on new features on upcoming 
products from Apple.  This is also used by Apple to launch new 
products or showcase upcoming software (this year, it was iOS 
7.0, which will be compatible with iPhone 4/4S/blee/TBA, iPad 
2/blec/bled/Mini/TBA and iPod Touch 5).

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:11:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Moderator reminder about messages to the list

I know this is going to add to traffic, but I haven't been 
keeping up with
this thread, and only read the message because it was a 
moderator's message,

but what is Apple's WWDC?

Enquiring minds, in this case, mine, wanna' know.  LOL.


Victor Gouveia
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Training Coordinator
VIP Tech
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re: Is Siri Available as a TTS Voice?

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
You mean Vocalizer? All Siri locale/language variants use a 
Vocalizer voice tied to that language.  Unless I'm mistaken, it 
uses standard level voices (unless someone would say it is using 
premium variant).

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:09:33 -0600
Subject: Is Siri Available as a TTS Voice?

I checked the archives on this and couldn't find anything.  I 
figure the
answer is probably no but is Siri available as a TTS voice 
anywhere in the
marketplace other than on iOS devices? I assume Apple developed 
this voice

but I was curious if it was available elsewhere.



Alan Lemly

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re: braille displays

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
No.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:42:11 -0500
Subject: braille displays

Hi, if your screen locks, can you unlock it using a braille 
display?


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re: VoiceRecorder or AudioMemos - anybody know if these are VO friendly?

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I used AudioMemos, and it is indeed VO friendly.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 17:41:40 +
Subject: VoiceRecorder or AudioMemos - anybody know if these are 
VO friendly?


Hi,

A recent posting on this list about audio recordings of Skype 
calls suggested it was possible, and the info at the link 
provided referenced these 2 inexpensive recorders - VoiceRecorder 
and AudioMemos.  Does anyone know if either of these are VO 
friendly?


Thanks in advance.  Keith

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re: Responding to a Siri question

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
You can double-tap the buttons corresponding to actions, or you 
can hold down the home key, then say your response.

Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Donald L.  Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:39:15 -0800
Subject: Responding to a Siri question

I realize that the subject line appears backwards, but let me 
explain.
Sometimes, after pressing the home button until it dings, I will 
then
ask Siri a question, after which Siri responds in a way which 
requires a
response from me.  Am I then to just say yes, or no, or whatever 
is
appropriate? Or, am I to again press the home button before 
responding?


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: 6.1.1 update

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Jailbreaking would usually mean allowing iOS users to have fuller
control of your device and sort of unlocking additional
functionality that Apple restricts. For instance, changing number of
icons in the dock, installing apps from third-party repos and so on.
In any iOS device running recent iOS versions, you're loggin onto the
device as the user mobile, which is restricted in what you can do
with your device. To jailbreak, a developer would try to find bugs or
exploits which allows one to run code as admin of the system (this
would be termed privilege escalation). Once the exploit has been
found, the jailbreak writer would come up with the modified firmware
and associated installation tool for devices running specific version
of iOS.
Cheers,
Joseph


On 2/12/13, Irene Elbourn at TAFN ir...@tafn.org.uk wrote:
 Apologies for a basic question;  but there is a lot of talk on the list
 about jailbreaking, and I am curious to know what this means.

 Irene Elbourn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: 12 February 2013 18:31
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: 6.1.1 update

 I understand that if you jailbreak you have to be careful about updates,
 but
 for those who are not jailbroken and don't plan to do so I think it's more
 or less a no-brainer to decide to update. I doubt Apple would suddenly
 release a minor update which breaks Voiceover and ultimately a new more
 major update comes out and just about everybody on this list who has an
 iPhone especially if it's a 4S or 5 will update anyways. Even if an update
 fixes a specific issue which maybe I didn't even notice or if it's just a
 security fix I would still go ahead and do it just as I do all my Windows
 updates. In many ways iPhone owners are very lucky this way because being
 able to update to the latest version of Android or Windows Phone is not
 even
 an option for the vast majority of people who have such devices because
 they
 are either not given the option to update or the update only works for a
 small number of the latest phones.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: 6.1.1 update

 I updated to the 6.1.1 update,
 about  15 minutes later  I found out that if you plan to JailBreak, you
 should  not upgrade.
 but if jailbreaking isn't for you, then go ahead and update. it said it
 fixes cellular issues with the 4S.


 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

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 Has anyone downloaded this update yet?  Just wondering about the
 fixes, and whether it's worth doing.  Thanks in advance.

 God bless!

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re: 6.1.1 update

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Hi,
I downloaded it last night (6.1.1 is onby for 4S).  It says that 
it improves reliability of cellular connections.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:06:24 -0500
Subject: 6.1.1 update

Has anyone downloaded this update yet?  Just wondering about the 
fixes, and

whether it's worth doing.  Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

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Re: iPhone 5 processor speed

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Hi,
Dual core, 1.3 GHz.
Cheers,
Joseph


On 2/10/13, Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list
 What is the speed in GHZ of the A6 iPhone 5 processor?
 Regards
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re: iPhone 4 storage

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Hi,
I believe you got the 8 GB iPhone 4.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Kim k...@woodartdesign.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:03:15 -0800
Subject: iPhone 4 storage


Hello,

I just got an upgrade from an iPhone 3GS to a 4.  It's a company
phone so  I really don't know much about it.

I'm already running into storage problems which never happened on
my old phone.  When I look at the Usage of the 4 and add up the
amount used and the amount available it only comes to 6 GB.  So,
I looked at my old phone and the addition comes to 16 GB.  I
thought that 16 GB was the least amount of storage on any iPhone.

I'm confused.  Can someone please enlighten me?

Thanks,

Kim

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re: A Safari question.

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Hi,
The Go button is on the keyboard itself on the bottom right 
corner.  If using Bluetooth keyboard, it'll be ENTER key.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: liz and sammie elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:13:56 -0500
Subject: A Safari question.

I have a Safari question.  I am attempting to go to a web page on 
Safari.  I
type the address in the proper field, but the buttons I am 
hearing VO saying
are clear text, cancel, back, forward, and return to web page.  
There is
supposed to be a go button so I am told, but I am not finding it 
even when
swiping.  Is there a step I am missing or is Safari a pain in the 
butt?

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator
and Avon Representative
HTTP://WWW.YOURAVON.COM/ELIZABETHULRICH

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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re: curiosity question

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Hi,
This is done through relationships - a label for a contact that 
you can set on Siri to tell who your spouse is.  This is done 
from Settings/General/Siri.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:34:22 -0800
Subject: curiosity question

Sense I have the iPhone 4, it doesn't have SIRI but I was 
wondering about
something and figure you could satisfy my curiosity.  On the 
commercials and
the demos of SIRI you hear some guy tell SIRI, text my wife and 
tell her
that I'm on my way home.  My question is, would you have to 
create a new
contact named my wife or is there some sort of preset for 
spouses?

- Original Message -
From: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?


Hi,
Yes, you can say:
Call (someone) at (someplace)
where someone is the contact name and someplace is the phone 
number

type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:21:51 +
Subject: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

Hi,

If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a 
default?
If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, how 
does one

specify this for Siri?

Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, 
call Bill at

work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?

Thanks in advance.  Keith

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Re: Mac book pro

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Hi,
A Mac Book Air is the netbook version of Mac Book Pro. The Pro is the
mainstream laptop, while Air is smaller and has limitations on
hardware upgrades.
Let's discuss this further somewhere else.
Cheers,
Joseph

On 1/28/13, Wendy Alling wendall...@comcast.net wrote:
 What are the differences between the mac book pro and the mac book air?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:52 pm
 Subject: Re: Mac book pro



 Yes, activated with Command-F5. I have a 2012 13 inch model without
 retina display and love it.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 27/01/2013 22:07, thomas williams wrote:
  Do the mac book pro have voice over?
 

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Features new in iOS 6.1

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I too have upgraded my 4S to 6.1 this morning.
A few things I found:
* Mail app bug with message list: the issue of first message 
being focused after reading a message further down the list is 
still there.
* Example pass added: Apple put an example pass in Passbook.  
When you open Passboo, you'll see an Apple logo and you'll see a 
more concise explanation of Passbook functionality.  When you tap 
learn more button, you'll come to an example pass from Apple.  
Tap done to return.
* Music controls in lock screen: When you're on lock screen, 
double-tap Home button to toggle between display of alerts and 
music controls.


Releasing 6.1 could mean two things this year:
* Apple might hold an event in March, announccing 6.1.1 or 6.2 
then.
* Apple might release 6.2 or 7.0 this summer (7.0 would indeed be 
previewed this summer, if pattern holds).
Please tell us if there are other features you find - both 
overall ones and VoiceOver specific ones.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: Siri

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Hi,
You can say:
What can I say?
This will open a list of commands you can perform using Siri.  
The ones I use frequently are ones related to opening an app or 
weather.

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Mark BurningHawk stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:19:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Siri

Can I get a list of things I can say to Siri?  Im about to do 
the update to 6.1 on my Ipad 3 and I'd like to know what I can 
ask Siri to do.  E.G.  Can I tell Siri to Skype someone in my 
contacts?  Etc.  Thanks.


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re: hot spot

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Hi,
Go to Settings/Gcheral/Cellular and you'll see hotspot status.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:18:54 -0700
Subject: hot spot

I just upgraded my plan to one that has the hot spot feature.  
Where do I go

on the phone to check to see if its on
***
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for you.


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re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

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Hi,
When this comes up, double-tap Continue button or double-tap the 
language string itself (the bottom-most string).  Then the 
regular setup screen will pop up.

Cheers,
Joseph

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:43:41 -0800
Subject: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 
6.1


Hi all:

I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked 
Install and hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver 
came on, said, Ipad, image.  Then, the only other thing I could 
elicit, other than the status bar, were different languages, some 
of which VoiceOver couldn't pronounced.  Double-tapping on the 
Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  My screen locks up 
almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a single tap 
of the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.


My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update take?  
It's been a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like 
this.  When I tried to shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't 
happen.


So.  What should I expect here?
Thanks.  :)


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RE: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update to 6.1

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
The first setup screen is just the intro screen.  When you double 
tap the language message, you'll come to the first setup screen.  
If you lock your screen or restart your device, you have to go 
through this setup process.

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:05:41 -0800
Subject: RE: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update 
to 6.1


Hi,

Do you mean that if one gets a list of languages that their 
device is

unlocked? Please advise.

Thanks.

Eileen

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: worrisome behavior of Ipad 3 after attempted update 
to 6.1


Hi,

Yes.  This is normal.  Your update is complete.  The different 
languages is
the unlock button.  Since it doesn't know what language you 
speak, it goes
through all of them.  Just double tap that button, and you will 
be on the

setup screen, and voiceover will be on and in english.  lol.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk 
stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net

wrote:

Hi all:

I turned on my Ipad, got the software update message, clicked 
Install and
hit the I Agree button.  It did its thing, VoiceOver came on, 
said, Ipad,
image.  Then, the only other thing I could elicit, other than 
the status
bar, were different languages, some of which VoiceOver couldn't 
pronounced.
Double-tapping on the Ipad image (English version) did nothing.  
My screen
locks up almost immediately, and though I can unlock it with a 
single tap of

the home button, I get the same, very restricted behavior.

My question is, is this normal?  How long should the update 
take?  It's
been a good ten minutes or so that my Ipad 3 has been like this.  
When I

tried to shut it down, the shut-down routine didn't happen.

So.  What should I expect here?
Thanks.  :)


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re: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

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Hi,
Yes, you can say:
Call (someone) at (someplace)
where someone is the contact name and someplace is the phone 
number type e.g.  home, mobile, iPhone, etc.

Cheers,
Joseph

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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:21:51 +
Subject: What to tell Siri if a contact has 2 phone numbers?

Hi,

If a contact has a home phone and a work phone, does Siri have a 
default? If calling the home phone is desired for a certain call, 
how does one specify this for Siri?


Is it as simple as saying, Siri, call Bill at home, or Siri, call 
Bill at work (or Siri, call Bill on his mobile)?


Thanks in advance.  Keith

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re: How does One Create Successive Home Pages

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
You can create home screens in two ways: by installing new apps 
or moving some apps to next home screen.  When you add more apps, 
iPhone will automatically create more and more home screens for 
you (up to eveven of them).
For arranging app icons, I tend to find that putting related apps 
in one row helps me find desired apps quickly.  For example, I 
have a row of apps for social networking and chat on my iPhone 
and have a row of system utilities (including Ariadne GPS).

Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net
To: List viPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:16:46 -0600
Subject: How does One Create Successive Home Pages

   Hey Gang,

Right now, my iPhone has 2 Home Pages and it's getting to the 
point where
I need to either create folders for common apps or create 
successive Home
Pages.  I need a Page 3 for sure and possibly even a fourth, how 
does one

create additional such pages.

Then, how does one get the desired apps onto those additional 
home pages?


And finally, does anybody have any suggestions, recommendations 
or advice as

how best to arrange apps on the various home pages?

Thanks!


Holland's Person, Bill
- Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush 
hour?

- George Carlin, 1937 - 2008

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re: Mac book pro

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:07:17 -0500
Subject: Mac book pro

Do the mac book pro have voice over?

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re: Recording podcasts

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I used both PC's and iPhone - in case of iPhone, I'm using Voice 
Recorder HD.  I find that I do more and more podcasts with iPhone 
these days.

Cheers,
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:16:51 -0700
Subject: Recording podcasts

Have any of you recorded any podcasts? Did you create them with 
your
iDevice, or did you do it with the Pc? If you did it with the PC, 
can you
please write me off list and tell me how you did that? If you 
have done it

with your iDevice, can you tell me which app you used?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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re: iPhone5 getting when using maps

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes, that is normal, even for earlier models.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:18:09 +1100
Subject: iPhone5 getting when using maps

Hello all, had my iPhone5 for a couple of days.  We just went out 
in the car so I thought I would give Maps a go.  I must say the 
map program worked well around my town.  The Only thing I noticed 
was the phone got very hot.  Is this normal when using maps?

Thanks for any pointers.
Max.

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re: using simultaneously 2 bluetooth units

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Hi,
Yes, it is possible.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Date sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:34:40 +0200
Subject: using simultaneously 2 bluetooth units

Hi there,

Is it possible to use simultaneously bluetooth keyboard and 
headphones with

IOS devices?

Negoslav

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re: thank you, thank you, I agree, yes, no

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Raul,
I've seen this function on Google Groups before.  Personally, I 
propose we hand out a survey about drastic changes like this.  
Another short-term solution could be to ask people to write 
some hash tags when the person feels it is off topic message.  
However, I think the greatest solution is if members think about 
their posts before being sent to this list and other mailing 
lists as well, which could cut down bandwidth (somewhat).

Cheers,
Joseph
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From: Raul A.  Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
To: ViPhone List viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:51:16 -0600
Subject: thank you, thank you, I agree, yes, no

Hello all.  It's about that time again to remind people that 
thank you
messages sent to the list are considered off topic.  This is 
because if
you want to show your gratitude to the person who gave you the 
answer to

life, the universe, and everything, it's best sent to that person
directly rather than to the entire list.  If there are 1400 
members on
list, and you are one of them, that leaves 1399 members.  If you 
are
sending a thank you message for 1 or 2 people, then over 1300 
members
are getting blasted with this kind of message and it just adds to 
the
already high traffic on list.  Yes, I agree that saying thank you 
is a
form of politeness, and considering some of the messages of late 
on
whether to tip or not, it's painfully obvious that some list 
members
still act like children, but still, please send your thank you, I 
agree
messages, or similarly worded ones, directly to the sender when 
warranted.


Thank you!

--
Raul A.  Gallegos
I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me 
was,
'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I should 
hope
not! If I don't want you, why would I want someone like you?'  - 
Larry

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re: Help comparing:

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes, they use same processors.  For size, think of iPod Touch as 
slightly longer than a credit card, and iPad Mini as slightly 
bigger in screen size than that of a paperback book.

Cheers,
Joseph


- Original Message -
From: marie baisez marie.bai...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:08:10 +0100
Subject: Help comparing:

IPod Touch 5 gen.  and IPad mini,
Are the processors in the 2 units the same? what about the 
cameras? how much bigger is the screen on the IPad mini? I know 
you can read all about dimensions but I find it difficult to 
visualize them, reference to a familiar object like a CD box or a 
classic book or an a4 page would help.
I live quite a way from an Apple store so can't easily go and 
handle things physically as I'd like to.

Thanks for taking the time to help.
All the best,
Marie


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Re: Tip to improve battery life.

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Turning off Wi-Fi and/or Bluetooth when not in use, turning down 
brightness and turning off location tracking (unless you need it 
for GPS) and so forth.

Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Marissa solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:53:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Tip to improve battery life.

Any other tips or tricks you would recommend to save battery life 
that can

be done through settings?

On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:59:29 PM UTC-8, Daniel Miller 
wrote:


Hi,



I just thought I뭗 share this tip I found out about from an 
Apple store
genius rep.  If you go into settings, general, about, and 
diagnostics and
useage and don뭪 send that data to apple automatically, it 
dramatically

improves battery life.

I can say for 100% certainty it does, on an iPhone 5, and an 
iPad 4th gen..



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re: Updating the iPod Touch 3rd Generation

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
iOS 6 doesn't support third gen.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:17:47 -0500
Subject: Updating the iPod Touch 3rd Generation

I have asked this question before, but maybe I missed the answer.  
My iPod Touch Third Generation has the 5.1 software and when I 
tried to update it I was told that it is updated already.  Is 
there a way to get to IOS6?



Beverly

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RE: single finger double tap hold with braille

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
In that case, you need to press home key command twice or three times
quickly (for Apex, it is inner two thumb-keys twice or three times quickly).
For double tap and hold (passthrough), there's no Braille command for it.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: single finger double tap hold with braille

What about braille display equivalents for dubbel and triple clicking the
home button? Do they exist? I know there is one for single clicking the home
button.

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From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:51:12 -0700
Subject: Re: single finger double tap hold with braille


I thought the double tap and hold gesture was introduced for keyboards with
ios6. Was that just for bt keyboards and not for braille? Strange.

Mary

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RE: recording app for teh iPad

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

There are two paid ones I'd recommend: Audio Memos and Voice Recorder HD.

Cheers,

Joseph 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Elizabeth Campbell
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: recording app for teh iPad

 

Hello all,

 

I've had my iPad for about a week,and I noticed that there doesn't seem to
be an app for recording interviews and so forth.

I am used to Voice memos on my iPhone 4S, but are there some good recording
apps out there for the iPad?

 

Sorry if this question has already been asked.

 

Thanks!

 

Liz

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RE: VO focus in email lists

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I have reported this issue to Apple.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gary O'Donoghue
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 4:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VO focus in email lists

I think I have noticed a not issue with the VO focus in email lis since
updating to IOS 6. in 5.1, once you had read an email, activating the back
button would close the open msg and return VO focus to that message in the
list of mails. Im now seeing that when you close a message by activating the
back button, the VO focus is at the top of the list of messages, even if
the message you closed was some way down. This means you have to swipe right
werepossibly numerous times) to get back to where you were inthe  list in
order then to continue reading down your list of mails. Can anyone confirm
this? 
Gary 

Gary O'Donoghue
BBC Political Correspondent 
Mob: 07802 232212
tel: 0207 9736057 

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RE: Dictation

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
For now, you can manually type the correct spelling.
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. I'll do some more experiment with dictation once my Apex returns
from repairs.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation

So, if Siri puts in an incorrect word and you don't want to use the
auto-correct feature, those errors then may occur again and again in
dictation?  If this is so, just how do you teach Siri?  I don't really get
it.

Carol P

- Original Message -
From: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Dictation


 Hi,
 Yes, it relies on speech patterns. Dictation is powered by Nuance engine.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Donna Slater
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Dictation

 Does anyone know if the dictation app learns from speech patterns? I 
 believe
 Siri does learn from your speech pattern is the dictation app part of 
 Siri?
 This is the first time I have experimented with dictation and I think it
 works very well. I just wonder if it learns as you go along?

 Donna Slater
 donnaslater...@gmail.com

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RE: Verizon no longer CDMA. What does this mean? -- WasRE: Unpleasant IPhone Upgrade Surprise

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
CDMA is a 3G standard, whereas LTE is 4G and carriers around the world uses
(or started implementing) LtE.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:54 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Verizon no longer CDMA. What does this mean? -- WasRE: Unpleasant
IPhone Upgrade Surprise

Now that Verizon isn't CDMA anymore, what is it? Are there broader
implications of this that would be worth knowing about? Thanks in advance.
Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unpleasant IPhone Upgrade Surprise

Hi Eric,

Verizon used to be a CDMA carrier, but with LTE this has changed. Also, just
for your record, the iPhone 5 uses a Nano SIM. The iPhone 4 and 4S used
the Micro SIM which is smaller than a regular SIM, the Nano SIM is yet
smaller, in fact it's outright tiny. Also, you were able to cut a regular
SIM card to the size of a Micros SIM either with a sharp knife nd a steady
hand along with either a Micro SIM as a template or a template you can find
online along with instructions. You could also buy a special cutter which
made the task a lot easier from various places, one of the best I heard is
from www.CutMySIM.com and their cutter actually came with an adapter so you
could use your newly cut Micro SIM again as a regular SIM similar to how you
can use adapters to use a Micro SD card in a regular SD card slot. I just
googled Can you cut a Micro SIM to the size of a Nano SIM and got a ton of
results, here is what CNEt has to report:

Can you cut a Micro SIM to the size of a Nano SIM??
Answer: Yes, but it's not as easy as cutting a regular SIM to the size of a
Micro SIM.

The nano-SIM isn't just smaller than the micro-SIM - it's also thinner.
If you're expecting a new iPhone 5 on Friday, and you're buying it unlocked
directly from Apple, you're going to need a nano-SIM to go with it.
Obtaining one is easy if your carrier is one supporting the new device,
because you can just call them up and request one. But what if you're
already stuck in a contract with a carrier that doesn't provide nano-SIMs
yet?

Fortunately for you, scissors, some sandpaper, and a pair of steady hands
will allow you to cut down your existing SIM or micro-SIM into a nano-SIM.

The nano-SIM is around 40% smaller than the micro-SIM, measuring 15 x 12 x
0.76mm. That means there's zero chance you'll be able to stuff your
micro-SIM into your iPhone 5 without modifying it first. But CNET reports
that it's possible to cut down the micro-SIM for a nano-SIM slot - just like
you could cut down your iPhone 3GS's regular SIM card for use in the iPhone
4. It does require a little more work, however.

You see, not only is the nano-SIM smaller than the micro-SIM, but it's also
12% thinner. That means you don't just need to cut it down to size, but you
also need to put it on a diet and thin out out a little bit. CNET's John
Chan explains:

Now, let's say the SIM tray on the iPhone 5 allows a nano-SIM up to 0.70mm
(as permitted by the allowance in the standard set by ESTI), I will need to
pare down 0.12mm on my micro-SIM so that it will fit. After a few minutes of
sanding with some sandpaper (240 grit, for those who care), it was finally
down to 0.70mm. But did the sanding damage the card?

I'm happy to report that the card, even at 0.70mm, continued to work when
inserted in an HTC One X. Sanding the non-metal side of the micro-SIM did
not appear to affect how it functions.

Before you go ahead and do this, wait until you receive your iPhone 5 on
Friday and double-check that a micro-SIM cut down to size - without sanding
- doesn't fit. It's likely it won't, but as Chan notes, we can't be sure of
that until the iPhone 5 is released and it can be tested.
Source CNET 


Regards,
Sieghard


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RE: Dictation

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes, it relies on speech patterns. Dictation is powered by Nuance engine.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donna Slater
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dictation

Does anyone know if the dictation app learns from speech patterns? I believe
Siri does learn from your speech pattern is the dictation app part of Siri?
This is the first time I have experimented with dictation and I think it
works very well. I just wonder if it learns as you go along?

Donna Slater
donnaslater...@gmail.com

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RE: About the do not disturb

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Go to Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver. One of the last settings in
there is speak notifications in lock screen. Turn this off.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About the do not disturb

Hi Jonathan and Dan:

How do you disable the autospeak notifications?
I want the notifications to be silenced when I have do not disturb on.
Thanks!
Kerri

On 9/21/12, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 Hi Dan, for me, calls don't come through, but notifications do if auto 
 speak notifications is enabled.

 Jonathan

   _

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Dan
 Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012 11:29 a.m.
 To: Apple Inc.
 Subject: About the do not disturb


 Hello,
 For what ever reason, I do not have any problem with the do not disturb.
 Here are my settings in my iPhone 4s, that is, the settings that 
 concern setting this function. Furthermore, I have announce items in 
 the locked screen set to on.
 1. under settings then under Notifications, then under Do Not Disturb 
 and under scheduled. The start time is 4:00 PM and 8:00 AM for the quiet
time.
 2. Scheduling is set to on.
 3. Then under settings, Do Not Disturb is set to on.
 When I called my phone from a number not listed in my favorites, 
 nothing at all happened. Then when I called a second time with in 3 
 minutes, I got a notice of the call. This is the way it should work.
 So, I'm not sure where the problem is.
 Remember that Scheduling must be on and the correct quiet time set.
 Then, remember to switch on the function from the first level of the 
 settings menu.
 This is really an interesting item and I'd love to see how others are 
 doing with, given the problem that some are having.

 Dan Keys


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RE: VO in iOS six question

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes - go to language rotor setting and change to English (U.S.). It'll stay
that way until you change it.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO in iOS six question

Hi Kirstyn,

I can confirm this behavior, and like you, I find it annoying.  So I'm
interested to know if this can be modified.  It just started happening with
IOS6.

Les
On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Kirsten Edmondson
kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Funny problem with VO since updating to iOS six. I have the HQ issue of
course which everyone else seems to have talked about already. So I'm not
bothered about that. But I think, connected to this, is when I reboot my
phone, Daniel returns. This is my default because it is a British phone. But
I use Samantha  as a matter of course. What do I need to do to keep Samantha
permanently? It will get irritating having to change it every time. This
never used to happen on 5.11. Do you think it will resolve itself once I
have the HQ voice back? It's been two days and I still haven't got it
though. Thanks
 
 
 Kirsten 
 
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RE: FaceTime and iOS 6

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Hi,
This is not the device problem: Your friend needs to use a data plan which
allows FaceTime.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FaceTime and iOS 6

Hi list,
I was trying to FaceTime a contact on 3G network. My friend has a 4 and he
never got the notification I was trying to FaceTime him. Is this because he
has a 4?
Sabrina

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RE: Braille displays comparison for IOS Devices, particularly iPhone

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I think there are some info we need from you: preferences on display length,
functionality and compatibility with other software besides iOS.
Here are some of the ones I heard from various sources (I'd be happy to
write to you offlist later):
* Small size: Refreshabraille 18, BraillePen 12, Focus 14 Blue,
BrailleConnect 12 and others.
* Braille entry: above models, plus Brailliant B/BI, various notetakers,
Focus series and others.
* Longer display lengths (usually 40 cells or greater): Focus 40 Blue,
Brailliant 40/80, Braille Edge and others.
If you have any preferences about features of braille displays, please let
us know so we can send you relevant info.
Cheers,
Joseph


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Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:53 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille displays comparison for IOS Devices, particularly iPhone

Could those of you who have strong opinions in favor or against particular
Braille displays for the iPhone please send me emails privately? Also, if
anyone has a link or two to a comprehensive review and comparison of Braille
displays for the iPhone, could you please send this? I've been looking all
over, and there seems to be a very scattered bunch of articles and reviews,
and seeking particular information about various devices seems to bring me
only to their manuals or to the sites of those trying to sell them, which of
course is not helpful if one wants critical reviews. I have no desire to
invest until I've gotten all of the information I can.
Thanks for all help.
Christine

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RE: refresh emails

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

Place three fingers anywhere on the screen, then bring them down towards the
bottom of the screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Trea Abma
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: refresh emails

 

Hi,

 

the refresh button has gone, but I can't find out how the swipe works to
check for new mail.

 

Trea

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Few iOS 6 usage notes

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I have also installed iOS 6 on my 4S. So far, it's better than I expected
(faster response, better Siri and so forth).
Few usage notes:
* Mail gestures: If you go to message list in mail and if you swipte down
with one finger, you'll hear delete. This is part of actions rotor and
can be thought of as context-sensitive options. By default, Mail opens the
message in question.
* VIP: To add some contacts as VIP: From messages list in Mail app, go to
Mailboxes, then tap VIP. Then go to Add button and choose some contacts (one
at a time). Then exit out of VIP folder. To add some more contacts later,
from Mailboxes list, go to more info: VIP button and edit VIP contacts
(you can remove them as well).
* Fetching new mail: in Mail app, swipe down with three fingers to refresh
the messages list.
* YouTube: If you installed Google's YouTube app before upgrading to iOS 6,
you'd notice that YouTube app is gone. To fix this, restore the phone to an
earlier backup (not the OS, but data) which contains Google's YouTube app.
If not, go to App Store and download YouTube app again. Also, Google's
YouTube app does not allow background video playback while on another task
unlike Apple's version.
* switching programs: You can actually switch to other tasks using Siri; you
can say switch to (appname) in addition to start (appname)', open
(appname) and (run (appname). You cannot close an app using Siri.
* Battery meter: if you have iTouch and iPad, if you go to
Settings/General/Usage, there is a new heading which gives time on battery
power (since last full charge).
* VoiceOver: The much talked about punctuation rotor is the last rotor
item under VoiceOver/Rotor settings list. There are three options: none,
some and all. Also, Braille Sense products can now be used again as braille
display with iOS.
* When you use Do Not Disturb mode, anyone in your phone's favorites list
can call you while suppressing other alerts.
* You can now set custom vibration patterns for alerts.
* There is a focus issue with Mail app: when you exit out of a message,
VoiceOver jumps to the topmost message. I'm sure some of us reported this to
Apple.
* If you're using third-party navigation solutions such as Ariadne GPS and
if you try to explore the map, it will not work for the time being thanks to
underlying changes to map API.
* Because of new keyboard behavior, when you enter phone numbers from keypad
in phone app, you might want to remember the exact positions of the dial
keys, otherwise you may find yourself entering wrong phone number. For
instance, if you'd like to dial voicemail number (long press of 1), try: tap
once with four fingers near top half of the device, then swipe with one
finger to the right and double tap and hold on 1 key.
* By default, Passbook is located between Weather and Notes app on
homescreen. At this point, Starbucks is the only app which takes advantage
of passbook functionality (at least from App Store).
* In Spotlight search, if you type the name of an app, iOS returns the
folder in which the searched app is located.
* In Safari, if you double tap and hold on either forward or back button, it
opens browser history.
* FaceTime under 3G/4G/LTE would require that you check with your carrier
(some ask that customers switch to data sharing plan; this includes ATT).
Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph


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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

[Joseph Lee]

Hi Jonathan,
Have you found the braille version of VO+Shift+M? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. The
best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press K-cord to
invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what they now do.

People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, but to
say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just different. Some
people will find it better, others not, but it is still very much useable.

Here's a summary that may assist.

Router Row  Double tap the selected item.
Status Router Row   Toggle expanded status description.
Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up   Move to previous item using rotor setting.
Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel   Select item under your finger.
Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up  Move to previous item.
Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel DownMove to next item.
Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel  Select item under your finger.
Left PanningPan braille to the left.
Right Panning   Pan braille to the right.
Left Selector   Activates a Back button if present.
Right Selector  Start/Stop Toggle
Left Rocker Up  Scroll up one page.
Left Rocker DownScroll down one page.
Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
Right Rocker Down   Scroll right one page.

Jonathan


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi,

I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 either. I
have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz Wheels to pan by
line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. VoiceOver jumps all over
the place when I try to navigate using Whiz Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move
up or down one click, VoiceOver focus will jump back and forth over a span
of four or five lines, and after a few seconds, may eventually land where it
is supposed to.

Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into this
update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that Braille is
virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's not practical. So,
I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can figure out where to get it.

Cheryl


-Original Message-
From: Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi.

You can not change whiz wheels behaviour in IOS as far as I know.

Best regards Annie.

Best regards Annie.


Den Sep 19, 2012 kl. 10:10 PM skrev Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com:

 Hi Anney.
 Have you made sure that your wizwheels didn't get changed by accident?
 You know that if you press streight down on them, this will toggle how 
 they navigate, right? I used a focus 40 blue with wizwheels in an 
 earlier beta version, and did not have this issue.

 Scott

 On 9/19/12, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 It is not possible anymore to go to the next line with your left hand 
 in IOS 6. Apple has changed the behaviours of the wheels in focus 40 
 blue, and in the new version the bottuns, so that you will now go to 
 the next item chosen in the router whith the wheel in the left side.

 it is a major problem for us who are reading with the wright hand and 
 like to go to the next display with the left hand. Now you will have 
 to read and go to the next line with your wright hand, it will waste 
 much time when reading.

 Has anybody a work around.

 Best regards Annie.

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RE: Updated my iPod touch 4 and have a weird problem

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Hi,

Apple changed parts of initial setup, so you need to go through it again.
When VO speaks another language, double tap on the text and the initial
setup screen will load.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jen Colley
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated my iPod touch 4 and have a weird problem

 

Hi,  

I updated my iPod touch.  

The update seemed to go alright but now after all is said and done voice
over says iPod touch but if you double tap that nothing happens.  

If you flick right it sounds like the voice is saying something in another
language.  

I do not hear any of my normal home screen apps being spoken.  

How do I fix this?  

Jen  

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RE: does the ipod have seari?

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Hi,

iPod Touch 5th gen has Siri.

Here are some differences between them (as I used both before):

* Phone: iPod cannot make cellular calls; however one can use Skype and
FaceTime on both - both allows FaceTime calls via Wi-Fi and iPhone allos
FaceTime via 3G/4G/LTE, provided that you have iOS6 or above and the correct
data plan.

* iPhone has built-in GPS and compass, whereas iPod Touch does not.

* iPhone has better camera and volume mute switch.

* iPod Touch is lighter than iPhone thanks to absence of cellular modem.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mich
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: does the ipod have seari?

 

Hi all. I just would like to know as some one who has not owned a phone or
iPod or any I device. does the iPod have seari? and can some one point me in
the right direction in a iPod/iphone comparison? or tell me the main
differences between the 2? I saw the iPod at a cousins and it was in it's
case and the screen seems a bit bigger then the iphone screen. I also have
seen a iPad since my Dad had one for a short time. many thanks for any help.
from Mich. 

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RE: Facebook and IOS 6

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Hi,
1. You need to download FB app from App Store.
2. You can post FB posts from Notification Center or via Siri.
3. When you choose to update contacts from FB settings, your addressbook
will be populated with FB friends.
4. Calendar will remind you that your friend(s) have birthdays coming up.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:02 PM
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Subject: Facebook and IOS 6

Hi,

OK, I admitt I'm not a rocket scientist when it comes to technology which is
why I'm on this list...I see that with IOS 6 there is a setting for FB which
I took care of.  Should there then be somw sort of app somewhere?  I guess I
don't understand what IOS 6 is giving me in regards to FB.

Thanks for filling in my blanks.

Kim

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RE: Summary from today's event

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Hi,
These are two 3G standards used to access cell towers. GSM uses SIM cards
for user identification, whereas CDMA uses a different card for
identification. At least in united States, ATT and T-Mobile are GSM
carriers and Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Summary from today's event

Can someone remind me  who is GSM, and who is CDMA?

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Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Summary from today's event

Wow ok might look into it thanks for letting me know chat soon Chris.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 13/09/2012 17:49, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 I would assume its better.  They have indeed upgraded the internal
speakers.  Adding 5 magnets.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all is the audio any better on the new iPod Touch if so I might
look into that rather than an iPad thanks chat soon Chris.


 Sent from my Windows laptop.

 On 12/09/2012 23:37, Moop Curran wrote:
 Hi,
 What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 
 gb, if so it's kind of a bummer for us stubborn people who won't 
 store our music in the cloud.
 Courtney



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 On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

 earPod

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Summary from today's event

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Hi folks:
Here's a summary of today's Apple press event:
* New devices: iPhone 5, iTouch 5, iPod Nano 7th generation, earPod.
* Universal: new smaller connector called lightning. A new earphone
accessory called earPod will ship with newer devices or will be available
for purchase.
* iPhone 5: 4-inch screen (1176X640), 4G LTE connectivity, 2X faster CPU
(quad-core), longer battery life, same back-facing camera specs as 4S but
different lense cover, enhanced front camera, 18% thinner than 4S and 20%
lighter. Price is the same as 4S and pre-order begins on the 14th.
* iPod Touch 5: 5 MP rear camera, faster CPU, 16 GB storage option, Siri
integrated and comes in multiple colors. Will be available in October.
* iPhone 3GS 8 GB is discontinued; however, iOS 6 will run on it. Also, 32
GB 4S is discontinued.
* redesigned App Store and iTunes Store with folder-like album art
functionality in iTunes Store and Facebook integration in App Store.
* iOS 6.0: compatible with iPhone 3GS/4/4S/5, iPod Touch 4/5, iPad 2/3. Will
be released for older devices on the 19th.
Thanks.
Cheers,
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RE: Summary from today's event

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Hi,

The earPod is a earpiece accessory from Apple. The fifth gen iTouch will be
available in 32 or 64 GB model.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Of Moop Curran
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Summary from today's event

 

Hi,

What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 gb, if so
it's kind of a bummer for us stubborn people who won't store our music in
the cloud.

Courtney

 

 

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Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info.
Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site.  

 

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earPod

 

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RE: iOS 6

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Hi,
It'll be out in a week.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Of Kirsten Edmondson
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:02 PM
To: Viphone Group
Subject: iOS 6

Hi all, is iOS 6 out today? I looked for it in software update but it's not
there. Am I too early? 
Will I be able to update via the phome? (I have a 4s). 
Thanks 


Kirsten 

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RE: questions regarding ios 6 updating process

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Hi,

If you have iOS5 on your 4, then you'll get an alert (when 6.0 comes out)
that a new software is ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marissa
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding ios 6 updating process

 

I have a few questions:

 

1. I have an Iphone 4 that no longer has service ince I upgraded to the 4s,
seeing as the Iphone 4 is running ios 5 is there a way to connect that phone
to itunes and update it to ios 6 when that software is relased?

 

2.  does anyone know itunes backs up text messages when crating a backup of
an iphone?

 

3. Does anyone think that the siri and voiceover conflicts will be resolved
in ios 6

 

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RE: Weather in Notification Center

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Hi,

You need to have an active Wi-Fi connection to see latest weather info.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:50 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Weather in Notification Center

 

Hi,

 

I just have the Weather app that comes with iPodTouch.

 

In Notification Center, it will read, Current Weather, yada yada yada.
However, the announced Current Weather usually turns out to be a day old. I
know this because on Sunday, it announces Current Weather, yada, yada,
yada, Saturday weather yada yada yada, Sunday weather yada yada yada.

 

Is there a way to update the info in Notification to make sure when it says
Current it is inf act current? I haven't been able to find an Update
button or anything like that.

 

Also, in Settings under Notification, they talk about banners and badges.
What are those?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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RE: Weather in Notification Center

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Hi,

Hmmm, if that's the case, once the weather info is spoken, flick right and
then flick left to go back to the info, at which point it should give you
updated weather report.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:13 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Weather in Notification Center

 

But I do. It's on my home network when this happens, and I know it's active.
Is there something else to think of? Thanks.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weather in Notification Center

 

Hi,

You need to have an active Wi-Fi connection to see latest weather info.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:50 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Weather in Notification Center

 

Hi,

 

I just have the Weather app that comes with iPodTouch.

 

In Notification Center, it will read, Current Weather, yada yada yada.
However, the announced Current Weather usually turns out to be a day old. I
know this because on Sunday, it announces Current Weather, yada, yada,
yada, Saturday weather yada yada yada, Sunday weather yada yada yada.

 

Is there a way to update the info in Notification to make sure when it says
Current it is inf act current? I haven't been able to find an Update
button or anything like that.

 

Also, in Settings under Notification, they talk about banners and badges.
What are those?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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RE: upgraded phone or IOS-6

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Hi,

When an update becomes available, VoiceOver should say, Settings, 1 new
item.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 3:04 PM
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Subject: upgraded phone or IOS-6

 

Perhaps part of this question cannot be answered here, but I know someone
knows the answer to the other part. (smiles) How do I know if I have an
upgrade on my phone, and if no phone upgrade is available, do I get IOS 6
for my 4-S? I am with Sprint with unlimited texting, data and 450 minutes
iPhone to land line and unlimited to cells.

Reggie

 

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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

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Yes, but you need the highest data plan – 5 GB plan in order to use hotspot 
feature.
Cheers,
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 On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
 
 
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RE: The new iPhone - rumours for those who like to hear them

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Hi,

September to October timeframe.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Hank Smith
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: The new iPhone - rumours for those who like to hear them

 

when is ios O6 coming out?
n 8/19/2012 8:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Listers,

 

I don't want to start another 50 messages of speculation here, but for those
on the list who are very curious about the new iPhone and iOS 6 I thought I
mention the Today in iOS Podcast again. This is a very informative Podcast
which started just before the release of the original iPhone in 2007 and Rob
just released episode 236 last night. In it he confirms that it is extremely
likely that there will be a September 12 keynote and a September 21 release
of the new iPhone. I don't say iPhone 5 because He believes in the
strongest possible way that it will not be called the iPhone 5, he said
there is the smallest chance that maybe it will be called the iPhone 6 since
it is the sixth iPhone (original, 3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S) but he actually
believes very much that just like with the iPad Apple will go away from the
numbering system completely and just call it the new iPhone.

 

Anyhow, there are lots more tit bits of rumours and iOS 6 news along with
tech tips and I think this is one of the best iPhone podcasts around. It's a
weekly podcast although sometimes there are slightly longer gaps and
sometimes he releases special features, if you search for Today in iOS in
your favourite Podcast app you'll find it.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Getting PC mp3 files to iDevice

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Hi,
Here's the procedure:
1. From iTunes, go to File/Add to Library. Or, press CTRL+O.
2. Navigate through your drives and folders until you find the mp3 you'd
like to add.
3. Sync wit your iTouch (focus your cursor on your iTouch, then open context
menu, then choose Sync).
Cheers,
Joseph

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 Hi,

I have downloaded music in iTuens, but want to transfer some mp3 files on my
PC onto my iPodTouch. Can someone please outline the steps I need to take to
do that, and point out anything to watch out for?

Thanks in advance.

Keith

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RE: Updating app question

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Hi,
You can use your device while apps are being updated. You'll know when app
updates are done when you don't see status messages next to the app icons.
Cheers,
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Hi,

When Updating All apps, must one wait patiently during this process, or is
the iDevice otherwise usable? If one must wait, how do I know when all the
updating is complete?

Thanks in advance.

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RE: IM plus question

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Hi,
You need to press eject key on the BT keyboard to make the touchscreen
keyboard appear. To send a message on the BT keyboard, press ENTER.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Rebecca, I can't remember as it was a while ago, but I think I've had the
same problem in the past with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I don't think I ever
found a solution.
Cheers
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Just tried that on both bluetooth keyboard and i phone and the message
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RE: deleting multiple emails

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Hi,
Unless I'm mistaken, there's no select all function in mail messages list.
To emulate this, you'd tap edit button, then select individual emails
and deleting them at once.
Cheers,
Joseph

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I have a spam folder that has a lot of messages and am wondering how to
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RE: updating to 5 1 1

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Hi,
When you update iOS, none of the third party apps will be updated.
Cheers,
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hi all
when i update will itupdate my apps? 
there are apps i dont want to update 
molly

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RE: ScreenCurtain on when VoiceOver on; how can I change this back?

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Hi,
Do a triple tap with three fingers.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Using iPod Touch 4th generation with voiceover.

After a charge, Screen Curtain is now on whenever VoiceOver is on, and vice
versa. How did this happen, and how can I change it back so Screen
curtain is off when VoiceOver is on?

Thanks.

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RE: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

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Hi,
No (BTW, VoiceOver uses Vocalizer, which is an improvement compared to
RealSpeak).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Hi, is it possible to use another synth with voiceover if I don't really
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RE: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

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Hi,

To use voices for other languages, you need to enable these languages from
the language rotor list.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

 

Good, have wanted to ask for a while.  Are other voices besides the American
VO available to me? If so, how do I get them? Can I do it from my iPhone?

Reggie

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

 

Well, speech is down to personal preference.  I don't like vocalizer.  If I
did, I'd probably have a choice to use it on my android.  Lots of people do
like it.  If not, you have choices.  You just install a new synth and off
you go.

 

Where-as on IPhone, the speech API is locked town so you can't have
system-wide voices or choose to use a different speech engine with your
voiceover.  Which addresses the original question.

 

Best,

 

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On 2012-08-02, at 1:20 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote:

 

Nope I was using SVOX.  Apple has done a great job and I don't see any
reason for them to need to change the synthesizer API.  The only issue I
have is one app that uses VoiceOver instead of its own speech, which means
that the screen is on when the phone is in my pocket.  So far though, that
has not even been a problem. 

Jordan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Oferik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

 

You probably had pico which is the default speech.  It makes my ears bleed.
You can get ivona or loquendo and they are much better.

 

Best,

 

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On 2012-08-02, at 12:42 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote:





No its not.  When I had an Android phone, the speech was saying things
wrong.  The speech on the iPhone gets everything I have thrown at it
correct.

Jordan

 

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mailto:%5bmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%5d  On Behalf Oferik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

 

This is a major detraction of the IPhone.  I've put in a request several
times to have apple open up the speech API so that synthesizers could be
shared across applications but nothing doing.

 

It's not even just voiceover.  It's all self-voicing applications.  If I buy
acapella voices for prismo, and then I want to use them in navigon, forget
it.   If I buy loquendo voices for my voice communication aid and want to
use them in prismo, sorry, nop.

 

One reason I especially love my android is that I have a choice of ivona,
loquendo, svox, and hopefully soon acapella voices that will work with
talkback and any other application I choose.

 

Vocalizer isn't as bad as svox or pico, but if it's an improvement on
realspeak I'm not sure how.  It's pronunciation is pretty horrible.  It's
useless for street names in gps applications for example.

 

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On 2012-08-02, at 3:13 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:






Hi,
No (BTW, VoiceOver uses Vocalizer, which is an improvement compared to
RealSpeak).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: other synth for voiceover on iphone?

Hi, is it possible to use another synth with voiceover if I don't really
like the realspeak voices on my iphone? If so what can I use?

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RE: 4G differences, was, Thoughts on carrier options in US

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Yes, that's a good generalization. LTE (Long Term Evolution) is reputed to
support faster cell data connectivity. However, availibility will depend
based on radio frequencies used around the world.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jeremy
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 4G differences, was, Thoughts on carrier options in US

So, out of my own ignorance of 4g, what does this mean for the upcoming
IPhone 5 coming out for ATt? I'm assuming it will follow in the footsteps
of the 4s, being compatible with all the networks but if we're not using
LTE, does this indicate we will have a slower data? I guess this is more a
question on the differences between 4g used by ATT and that used by other
carriers.
I've no experiences with 4g through any provider so my understanding of it
is next to nothing.
Take care.

On 7/28/2012 3:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
 Hi,
 iPhone 4S can be used with any carrier provided that it is unlocked, 
 since it contains radio chips used by ATT/T-Mobile and 
 Verizon/Sprint. ATT labels HSPA+ network as 4G and other carriers 
 doesn't. The true 4G would be LTE, which the 5 would have it (thanks 
 to LTE chips built on 4G iPad III). As for  data plan, it depends on 
 what you want to do with your iPhone and whether you want to use your
phone as a router for others.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of jeremy
 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:34 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 I may not be totally correct on this, but I think that pretty much any 
 IPhone you get, no matter the carrier, should be about the same. This 
 of course was a bit different with the older devices we are used to, 
 nokias and alike, and even some of the newer droid devices to. One 
 thing of note I've herd people mention though, are the differences 
 between the data plans offered through sprint, verison and att. Not 
 sure if any are really considered truly unlimited, but sprint and 
 verison apparently have an upper hand on us att users. One other 
 thing that may become an issue with the IPhone 5, if it really is 4g 
 compatible, will be how the 4g works here on ATt. I really honestly 
 don't know much about 4g or what they use so maybe it'll work perfectly.
 Take care.
 On 7/28/2012 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The only thing I've heard is depending on where you live, one carrier 
 might drop fewer calls than the other.
 Around me, Verizon seems to have the best reputation for call quality 
 and fewest dropped calls.  This is around Portland, Oregon.

 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 Hi,

 I'm learning about iOS on an iPod Touch 4th Generation WiFi, but will 
 be moving on to an iPhone with the introduction of iPhone5. So, I'll 
 bee needing to sign up with a carrier for calls, text, and data.

 Besides the differences in calling / texting / data plans among 
 Verizon, ATT, and Sprint (in the US), are there other considerations 
 to take into account when selecting a carrier? I'm asking because a 
 few posts on this list seem to have mentioned special configurations 
 among different carriers that may impact blind users, if I understood
 correctly.
 I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks in advance Keith

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RE: Thoughts on carrier options in US

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
iPhone 4S can be used with any carrier provided that it is unlocked, since
it contains radio chips used by ATT/T-Mobile and Verizon/Sprint. ATT
labels HSPA+ network as 4G and other carriers doesn't. The true 4G would
be LTE, which the 5 would have it (thanks to LTE chips built on 4G iPad
III). As for  data plan, it depends on what you want to do with your iPhone
and whether you want to use your phone as a router for others.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jeremy
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on carrier options in US

I may not be totally correct on this, but I think that pretty much any
IPhone you get, no matter the carrier, should be about the same. This of
course was a bit different with the older devices we are used to, nokias and
alike, and even some of the newer droid devices to. One thing of note I've
herd people mention though, are the differences between the data plans
offered through sprint, verison and att. Not sure if any are really
considered truly unlimited, but sprint and verison apparently have an upper
hand on us att users. One other thing that may become an issue with the
IPhone 5, if it really is 4g compatible, will be how the 4g works here on
ATt. I really honestly don't know much about 4g or what they use so maybe
it'll work perfectly.
Take care.
On 7/28/2012 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The only thing I've heard is depending on where you live, one carrier 
 might drop fewer calls than the other.
 Around me, Verizon seems to have the best reputation for call quality 
 and fewest dropped calls.  This is around Portland, Oregon.

 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 Hi,

 I'm learning about iOS on an iPod Touch 4th Generation WiFi, but will 
 be moving on to an iPhone with the introduction of iPhone5. So, I'll 
 bee needing to sign up with a carrier for calls, text, and data.

 Besides the differences in calling / texting / data plans among 
 Verizon, ATT, and Sprint (in the US), are there other considerations 
 to take into account when selecting a carrier? I'm asking because a 
 few posts on this list seem to have mentioned special configurations 
 among different carriers that may impact blind users, if I understood
correctly.

 I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks in advance Keith

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RE: Thoughts on carrier options in US

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,

Yes - CDMA networks use different authentication scheme. However, before
inserting a SIM, you need to call Verizon to deactivate your phone, then
insert the SIM.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 

Are you sure about that?

 

My son's iPhone 4s doesn't appear to have a Sim card, since he is on
Verizon.

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Lee mailto:joseph.lee22...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:46 PM

Subject: RE: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 

Hi,
iPhone 4S can be used with any carrier provided that it is unlocked, since
it contains radio chips used by ATT/T-Mobile and Verizon/Sprint. ATT
labels HSPA+ network as 4G and other carriers doesn't. The true 4G would
be LTE, which the 5 would have it (thanks to LTE chips built on 4G iPad
III). As for  data plan, it depends on what you want to do with your iPhone
and whether you want to use your phone as a router for others.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jeremy
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on carrier options in US

I may not be totally correct on this, but I think that pretty much any
IPhone you get, no matter the carrier, should be about the same. This of
course was a bit different with the older devices we are used to, nokias and
alike, and even some of the newer droid devices to. One thing of note I've
herd people mention though, are the differences between the data plans
offered through sprint, verison and att. Not sure if any are really
considered truly unlimited, but sprint and verison apparently have an upper
hand on us att users. One other thing that may become an issue with the
IPhone 5, if it really is 4g compatible, will be how the 4g works here on
ATt. I really honestly don't know much about 4g or what they use so maybe
it'll work perfectly.
Take care.
On 7/28/2012 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The only thing I've heard is depending on where you live, one carrier 
 might drop fewer calls than the other.
 Around me, Verizon seems to have the best reputation for call quality 
 and fewest dropped calls.  This is around Portland, Oregon.

 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Thoughts on carrier options in US

 Hi,

 I'm learning about iOS on an iPod Touch 4th Generation WiFi, but will 
 be moving on to an iPhone with the introduction of iPhone5. So, I'll 
 bee needing to sign up with a carrier for calls, text, and data.

 Besides the differences in calling / texting / data plans among 
 Verizon, ATT, and Sprint (in the US), are there other considerations 
 to take into account when selecting a carrier? I'm asking because a 
 few posts on this list seem to have mentioned special configurations 
 among different carriers that may impact blind users, if I understood
correctly.

 I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks in advance Keith

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