RE: Back to Basics

[Sandra Finley]

OK, where is the Action option you guys are talking about? It is most 
definitely not on my phone’s rotor. I have even called Apple Accessibility and 
talked to not one, but two reps and they sayd they don’t know where it is 
either.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 7:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Back to Basics

 

How do you delete messages?

Make sure your rotor is on actions, and then the flick up will work.

 

Where is the inbox?

When you are in the folders in Mail, if it says your email address collapsed, 
then double tap on it and then it should say it is expanded and you should be 
able to get to your inbox.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jenn

Jennie Facer

To the world you are someone, but to someone you are the world!





On Jul 30, 2024, at 5:10 AM, Sandra Finley mailto:therealsandyfin...@gmail.com> > wrote:



for the past few years I have been using mail apps other than the native Appple 
app. I decided to go back to the “Apple app. I re-downloaded it  yesterday. I 
realize that either I have forgotten some things, or there have been changes. I 
have two questions for now.\

1.  How do you delete messages? One friend says she swipes  up once for 
delete.  That does not work on my phone.
2.  Where is my in box?  Sometimes it is there when I open the app and at 
other times I am taken to a list of the folders in mail and I cannot find the 
in vox.  

Thanks for any help.

 

Sandy Finley

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Back to Basics

[Sandra Finley]

for the past few years I have been using mail apps other than the native
Appple app. I decided to go back to the "Apple app. I re-downloaded it
yesterday. I realize that either I have forgotten some things, or there have
been changes. I have two questions for now.\

1.  How do you delete messages? One friend says she swipes  up once for
delete.  That does not work on my phone.
2.  Where is my in box?  Sometimes it is there when I open the app and
at other times I am taken to a list of the folders in mail and I cannot find
the in vox.  

Thanks for any help.

 

Sandy Finley

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Swiping Up to Unlock Phone

[Sandra Finley]

Some of you have been most helpful by answering my previous questions in a
manner that was both supportive and logical. So I am encouraged to
acknowledge what I do not understand and ask another question.

 

My question today refers to the gesture of swiping up when trying to unlock
the phone using face ID. When I pick up my locked phone and swipe down with
two fingers, I get the time plus the words,  "locked, flashlight off button,
camera button." Sometimes the words "swipe up to unlock" appear just after
the word "flashlight." The only thing I can do  is a three-finger single
tap, which takes me back to the  home screen. Then I have to type my
password. 

 

What am I doing wrong?  It seems that I have tried swiping up with every
permutation available to the human hand!!

 

Sandy Finley

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RE: Phone Not Ringing

[Sandra Finley]

Problem solved!! Thanks to all of you.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Phone Not Ringing

 

Sandy, 

 

I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been 
turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is 
beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named 
settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set 
up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus 
is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center 
by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and 
doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can 
follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Alan Lemly 

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On May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could be 
turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control 
centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down 
where it says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear 
something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not 
Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all 
your calls to go straight to voice mail unless you set up exceptions in 
Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from 
certain apps.

Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you if any 
of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this has to 
be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a 
particular focus on or off..

 

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Subject: Phone Not Ringing

 

When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does 
not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent 
Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could 
cause this behavior?  Thank you.

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Phone Not Ringing

[Sandra Finley]

When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It
does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and
Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other
settings could cause this behavior?  Thank you.

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RE: Pill Reminder App question

[Sandra Finley]

OK; I will try that.  I guess I had this preconceive idea about how it would 
work and  I was wrong.  Thanks.

 

  

 

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Hi Sandy, 

 

When I just went into Pill Reminder and accessed the Reminders tab, I was able 
to set up two reminders at the exact same time for the two meds I had 
previously set up on the Medications tab. You might access the Medications tab 
to add all your meds and then set up the reminders for the times you want to 
take them. 

 

Alan Lemly 

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Recently I asked for recommendations of an app that reminds the user  of daily 
meds. Several of you recommended Pill Reminder. I have been working with it and 
have  one question. One of the tabs at the bottom of the screen is called 
Reminder. I have created five  daily reminders, one for each of the times I 
need to take meds each day. So far so good. For some of those reminders I need 
to put in more than one med and I don’t se how or where to do that. Is this 
something the app does not  do? Thanks for your help.

 

Sandy Finley

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Pill Reminder App question

[Sandra Finley]

Recently I asked for recommendations of an app that reminds the user  of
daily meds. Several of you recommended Pill Reminder. I have been working
with it and have  one question. One of the tabs at the bottom of the screen
is called Reminder. I have created five  daily reminders, one for each of
the times I need to take meds each day. So far so good. For some of those
reminders I need to put in more than one med and I don't se how or where to
do that. Is this something the app does not  do? Thanks for your help.

 

Sandy Finley

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Med Minders

[Sandra Finley]

Hello. I am in need of a way to remind myself that it is time to take meds.
I am taking them five times each day and, since the amounts vary, I need it
to remind me of not only when to take them, but also what. Can anyone on
this list recommend am app for this? I have not yet ruled out the iOs
reminder app or the alarm, but I am interested in looking at all of my
options.  T Thank you.

 

Sandy Finley 

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How do I transffer an app from the app library back to my home screen?

[Sandra Finley]

I can find the app  and  activate edit  Mode. But as  soon as I swipe right
to exit the app library, VO says, "finished editing.)

 

Sandy Finley

 

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A Proglem Unique to Blind People

[Sandra Finley]

I hate to admit this, but if I can't ask fellow blind folks, then what is
the point of a list like this? I have never mastered the use of facial
recognition. I was able to follow the directions given to set up face ID
fine. The problem I continue to have  is how to hold my phone up to my face
so that my fade is recognized. Several months ato I just stopped trying and
have been using my password  instead, but I am  now determined to figure
this out.  How did some of you  learn how to do this?

 

Sandy  Finley 

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Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

[Sandra Finley]

This message is about my inability to delete voice mail and text messages
and how we solved it. I am posting this in case someone else has this
problem. If you have not, feel free to hit the delete key now.

 

A couple of months ago I suddenly could not delete texts or voicemails. I
would flick up and down and all option were gone. Then I did an iOS update
and the problem went away.  A week ago it came back.  

 

A wonderful Apple agent helped me figure out that the problem was with the
rotor. There is a feature on there called Screen Recognition and it was
selected. We figured out that it kept unselected Actions, without which I
could not delete.Works perfectly now! 

 

Sandy Finley

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RE: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Est

[Sandra Finley]

Tell SIRI to turn it on or off.  

 

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Lemly
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Subject: RE: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it 
all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther

 

And for those Harry Potter fans, you can also tell Siri Lumos to turn on the 
flashlight and Nox to turn it off. I’ll caution you that you might have to 
spell Nox n o x for it to work which could be due to my Southern accent.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Subject: Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it 
all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther

 

Great instructions you can also tell Siri to turn on or off the flashlight you 
just say Siri turn on flashlight or Siri turn off flashlight

 

On May 25, 2023, at 12:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Flashlight is both on the lock screen and in Notification Centre at the bottom 
left, at the bottom right is the camera button.

It will say "Flashlight Off" or "Flashlight On", double tapping turns it on if 
it is off and it will turn it off if it is on.

I believe you can also add it to Control Panel if you wish.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it 
all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther

 

hey, Diane, that did the trick! I guess I tried everything else but telling 
Siri to turn it off. Thanks a bunch. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On May 24, 2023, at 11:34 PM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Esther, just tell Siri to turn flashlight offSent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On May 24, 2023, at 11:24 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

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RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[Sandra Streeter]

One more thing—does AT Guys have a dotted overlay for it?

 

 

 

Sandra

 

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soothe a battered soul like the open hearts of caring people. 

(Neil Peart, of the band Rush)

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 03:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

I have had mine for over six months and I am very pleased with it. Size makes 
it very easy to stick into my back pocket. The charging on wireless charger 
works fine for me with no issues. The battery is, as has already been said, 
Soso, but not a dealbreaker for me, really like mine.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

 

It’s possible that your phone is moving from the coil 

I know my wifi charger is on a slight angle and the phone can slide off the 
charger slightly.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 3:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

It probably stops because you may bump or move it a bit so it's not aligned 
correctly with the charging coyles in the pad.

 

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Subject: RE: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

 I have one. I like the size. It 
doesn’t always charge on my wireless charger which drives me batty.. and if 
anybody knows how to fix this I’d love it. Some days it charges like a champ, 
other days it says it’s charging then just quits for no reason I can figure 
out. Annoying af! 

 

 

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Subject: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

 

Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone which 
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Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

[Sandra Finley]

Richard, right now, under the Spoken Content heading,  I have
Both Speak Selection  and speak Screen Off.
 I do not understand the purpose of that Spoken Content section.


Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:19:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

Do you also have speak screen on under accessibility Spoken content?



Richard
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On May 10, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:


In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will not 
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until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that some weird setting 
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an iPhone 8 with the latest version of iOs.
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Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

[Sandra Finley]

In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will not 
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until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that some weird setting 
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Outlook for iOs

[Sandra Finley]

I am considering switching from the native iOs e-mail app to Outlook. I am 
testing it out now so I can make an informed decision.So far I have three 
questions for anyone who has made this change.


  1.   To delete a message in Outllok I swipe down. Sometimes my first choice 
is Delete and at other times it is Move. If the choice is Move I swipe again 
for delete. After that, /Delete becomes the first selection for three or four 
messages in a row and then it goes back to Move. Does anyone know why or what 
to do about this?

2. In the Outlook calendaR the only view I see is by the week.  Can that be 
changed to a listview by the day? or by events

3. What do you like and what do you dislike about Outlook for iOs?


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RE: Facebook today

[Sandra Streeter]

I’ve learned to view anything like that as spam. I’ve been getting one that 
begins, “Someone has tried to log into your account.” I was pretty sure it was 
a spam, and then, when it came several times, knew for sure1 On one hand, these 
guys are getting sneakier; on the other, I sometimes go, “They must think we’re 
stupid! They’re re-attempting a false message we’ve already responded to by 
deleting, and that we’ve received many, many times without falling for.”

 

 

Sandra

 

"May I never get too busy in my own affairs that I fail to respond to the needs 
of others with kindness and compassion."

Thomas Jefferson

 

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 01:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook today

 

I got one of those messages yesterday which is very odd since I deleted my 
Facebook Profile in 2017 or 2018. I wasn’t sure what to do with the email so 
just deleted it. 

Merv

 





On Apr 23, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Ann M Medlar mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I open on iPhone 12 pro and Windows desktop and same message:

I did not click link to fix yet.  

Is this a possible hack?  Any ideas?

 

At top of page it states

Epsilon




 
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Ann, Your Account Has Been Locked

We saw unusual activity on your account. This may mean that someone has used 
your account without your knowledge.




Account Locked April 23, 2021

To protect you, your profile is not visible to people on Facebook and you can't 
use your account.

We'll take you through some steps to unlock your account.

 
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RE: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for their iPhone?

[Sandra Streeter]

Definitely beneficial for me. I don't always stay in one place when performing 
a gesture, and I find that the screen dots do help me focus my fine-motor 
ability, as well as get me used to locations of certain things as I'm learning 
the interface.


Sandra

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Til we are called to rise
And then, if we are true to plan
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for 
their iPhone?

I got one for my first touch screen smart phone, the iPhone 4S. Although I 
don't think it was absolutely necessary, I did find it useful. I never got one 
for my Samsung S7, and I haven't been tempted to get one for my iPhone 11, but 
like I said, they don't get in the way and they can be beneficial.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 6:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: has anyone ever used any of the speed dots screen protectors for
> their iPhone?
> 
> Hi I have one on my iPad and I love it.  I don’t probably need one but I do 
> think it
> makes you be able to type a little faster etc.
> Jen
> 
> > On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> wrote:
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> > Hi to all.  I was checking out the latest issue of the top tech
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> > for the iPhone.  They don't yet have one's for the newest iPhones the
> > 12 series, but they do have one's for the iPhone 8, which is what I
> > have.  I don't know if I would really need one or not, but they do
> > sound interesting.  What do you all think?  Does anyone who has used
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RE: Exercise bikes

[Sandra Streeter]

What model is it?



Sandra

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Exercise bikes

We bought a spin bike last fall and decided to get just a basic model without 
any connectivity because both my wife and I have Apple Watches which we use 
with the indoor cycle workout to track time, heart rate and calories.
Yes, some bikes keep track of a virtual distance, but who really cares if the 
bike says you biked 6 miles or 10 miles, I am after a good workout and for that 
my heart rate and calories burned are more important. I don't know how much you 
want to spend, but you are better off investing in a good quality bike without 
a fancy controller which may or may not give you what you want, if anything 
spend that money on an Apple Watch which you can use for any type of workout 
not just your bike.

, 

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Shawnese (LEO)
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Subject: Exercise bikes

Hello I am searching for an exercise bike and I was wondering if anyone knows 
if a model is compatible with the iPhone. I have found several bikes and some 
of them are Bluetooth capable but I have no idea if they would work. Please let 
me know.
Thank you

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RE: Resurrection musical

[Sandra Streeter]

I will definitely flag this message so I can remember to watch! Thanks!

 

 

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A quantity of light

A particle of mercy

Makes the color of right.

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Subject: Resurrection musical

 

Family Times will play this musical Saturday April 11 and Sunday April 12 at 
2pm eastern.

You can ask Miss A to play Family times on tuneIn

or

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RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

[Sandra Streeter]

Thanks! I'll try that tomorrow.


 Sandra


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:41 PM
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Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Sandra, from the top of your Home Page, if you just put your finger on the 
first icon (mine is Contacts), just right flick until it says Settings - VOILA, 
double click, and in you go. Settings is my playground. If I could do as well 
in Safari as I do in Settings, I'd be really getting somewhere. 

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Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:15 PM
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>From the screen, though...


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Mitchel
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

I just tell ciri to open settings for me. easiest way I have found.


-Original Message-
From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Indeed, it does! since I'm sort-of used to it, think I'll stick with my current 
model. Now, if I could just figure out how to get back to the Settings menu 
when I need it... I am still a newbee, just starting to tackle common 
tasks--tech dinosaur that I am, having had it for almost 2 years! 
Unfortunately, don't do well with the audio training materials, and the Braille 
materials I know of aren't always specific enough or written in a helpful 
order...


Sandra


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Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

UnFortunately, No, the  ForthComin' Se
is  Predicted ToBe the SameSize as  Apple's
iPhone8 Not the SameSize as  "The Original" SE, I hope This Answers 
YourQuestion & FulFills YourCuriosity At 09:51 AM 4/8/2020, you wrote:
>Another curiosity question: I have an 8 currently, but wondered if the 
>SE, as with older SE's, would be smaller in the hand--I am 
>small-handed, so it would be something to think about if I considered 
>changing.
>
>
>  Sandra
>
>
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>Or every man be blind —
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>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:40 PM
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>Subject: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?
>
>Hello,
>
>
>I’ve been watching the conversation aboutthe new SE with interest.  I 
>was curious and looked on E Bay at iPhone 8 prices and they are quite 
>affordable.
>
>
>For the sake of this conversation let’s assume that the prices are 
>close, which is the more updated phone?  The 8 or new SE?
>
>
>Thanks for your hellp,
>
>
>Kim
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RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

[Sandra Streeter]

>From the screen, though...


 Sandra


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Mitchel 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

I just tell ciri to open settings for me. easiest way I have found.


-Original Message- 
From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Indeed, it does! since I'm sort-of used to it, think I'll stick with my 
current model. Now, if I could just figure out how to get back to the 
Settings menu when I need it... I am still a newbee, just starting to tackle 
common tasks--tech dinosaur that I am, having had it for almost 2 years! 
Unfortunately, don't do well with the audio training materials, and the 
Braille materials I know of aren't always specific enough or written in a 
helpful order...


Sandra


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Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

UnFortunately, No, the  ForthComin' Se
is  Predicted ToBe the SameSize as  Apple's
iPhone8 Not the SameSize as  "The Original" SE, I
hope This Answers YourQuestion & FulFills YourCuriosity
At 09:51 AM 4/8/2020, you wrote:
>Another curiosity question: I have an 8
>currently, but wondered if the SE, as with older
>SE's, would be smaller in the hand--I am
>small-handed, so it would be something to think about if I considered 
>changing.
>
>
>  Sandra
>
>
>The Truth must dazzle gradually
>Or every man be blind —
>(Emily Dickinson)
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:40 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?
>
>Hello,
>
>
>I’ve been watching the conversation aboutthe
>new SE with interest.  I was curious and looked
>on E Bay at iPhone 8 prices and they are quite affordable.
>
>
>For the sake of this conversation let’s assume
>that the prices are close, which is the more updated phone?  The 8 or new 
>SE?
>
>
>Thanks for your hellp,
>
>
>Kim
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RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

[Sandra Streeter]

Indeed, it does! since I'm sort-of used to it, think I'll stick with my current 
model. Now, if I could just figure out how to get back to the Settings menu 
when I need it... I am still a newbee, just starting to tackle common 
tasks--tech dinosaur that I am, having had it for almost 2 years! 
Unfortunately, don't do well with the audio training materials, and the Braille 
materials I know of aren't always specific enough or written in a helpful 
order...


 Sandra


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Or every man be blind —

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Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

UnFortunately, No, the  ForthComin' Se 
is  Predicted ToBe the SameSize as  Apple's 
iPhone8 Not the SameSize as  "The Original" SE, I 
hope This Answers YourQuestion & FulFills YourCuriosity
At 09:51 AM 4/8/2020, you wrote:
>Another curiosity question: I have an 8 
>currently, but wondered if the SE, as with older 
>SE's, would be smaller in the hand--I am 
>small-handed, so it would be something to think about if I considered changing.
>
>
>  Sandra
>
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:40 PM
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>Subject: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?
>
>Hello,
>
>
>I’ve been watching the conversation aboutthe 
>new SE with interest.  I was curious and looked 
>on E Bay at iPhone 8 prices and they are quite affordable.
>
>
>For the sake of this conversation let’s assume 
>that the prices are close, which is the more updated phone?  The 8 or new SE?
>
>
>Thanks for your hellp,
>
>
>Kim
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RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

[Sandra Streeter]

Another curiosity question: I have an 8 currently, but wondered if the SE, as 
with older SE's, would be smaller in the hand--I am small-handed, so it would 
be something to think about if I considered changing.


 Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —

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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Hello,


I’ve been watching the conversation aboutthe new SE with interest.  I was 
curious and looked on E Bay at iPhone 8 prices and they are quite affordable.


For the sake of this conversation let’s assume that the prices are close, which 
is the more updated phone?  The 8 or new SE?


Thanks for your hellp,


Kim

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RE: HULU accessible?

[Sandra Streeter]

As of about 3 weeks ago, functional with JAWS, if this is what you're getting 
at. As to descriptive videos, never checked, so unsure of that.


Sandra

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Does anyone know whether or not Hulu is accessible?

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RE: And accessible program to get rid of spam calls

[Sandra Streeter]

Of course, some of them are slimy enough to go ahead and leave voicemails 
nowadays! However, they're often easy to spot--done in synthetic speech!


Sandra

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-Original Message-
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And if you don't answer the  calls that are unknown to you, as we do as well 
as Anthony, after a certain amount of time the strange calls do slow down. 
Granted some of them are replaced with other calls with different numbers 
but we continue to ignore them. And if there's an important call amoungst 
those  unknown phone numbers calling we won't miss anything since we listen 
to our voice mail and we can return those important calls.
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Subject: Re: And accessible program to get rid of spam calls


Yes, just don’t answer them.
Everybody seems to be worried about the calls and if you just ignored them 
you’ll be fine. If a number is not in my contacts I won’t answer it.
If it’s a number that I don’t recognize from a doctor or somebody and it’s 
important they will even message.
Take care
God bless

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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RE: portable Bluetooth Keyboard

[Sandra Streeter]

Cute signature!

 

Yet another item to put on my tech wish-list...

 

 

Sandra

 

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concentrate  our thoughts on this truth we get into harmony with this great 
power.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: portable Bluetooth Keyboard

 

It is  10.9 inches wide, by 4.9, and only point 6 inches thick. 

 



Not sure how many purses would hold that.

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Aug 11, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have the Logitech K380. It fits in most purses, but it would have to be a 
pretty generous pocket to hold it. It has a very nice touch, though, and pairs 
with the phone without a whimper. I know there are keyboards that fold, but 
what I've heard is that they are harder to type on accurately.   The K380 is 
under 40 dollars at Amazon. Best forty bucks I ever spent.

Susie'


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Hi all:

 

I’m looking for a portable BT keyboard for my iPhone 8Plus. Want to be able to 
stick it in a purse or pocket. Any recommendations?

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RE: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

[Sandra Streeter]

Except that I hate talking more than I dislike touch screens!!!



Sandra

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

You can just tell SIRI to turn off your alarm.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandra 
Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

Interesting--haven't explored the Clock feature. Am very anti-touch-screen, so 
haven't made use of my iPhone as much as I could; will have to check that out, 
though.


Sandra

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

It's actually native to the clock feature of the iPhone. There is a tab along 
the bottom of the screen called bedtime.


On 7/16/19, Sandra Streeter  wrote:
> Sorry I don't have suggestions. Where did you get it? Is it fairly 
> accessible?
>
> Sandra
>
> Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on 
> eternity. May I be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but 
> useful.
> (Mary Oliver)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shermeen Khan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:34 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Question about the bedtime alarm clock
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've enjoyed the gentle awakeing I've been getting with the bedtime 
> alarm clock--I sort of "slide" awake now instead of being jarred, 
> which is comparatively pleasant.
>
> I know that if I hit one of the volume buttons, the alarm will go into 
> snooze mode, and it'll turn right off if I hit the home button. What I 
> can't quite figure is how to turn off the alarm while it's snoozing.
> Does this make sense? So, if the alarm goes off at 6:00, I hit snooze, 
> and am ready to actually get out of bed at 6:05. The alarm will go off 
> again at 6:10, but I'd prefer to just turn it off when I actually ge 
> tout of bed instea dof waiting. Anyway, I'm assuming there's a quick 
> fix that I just don't know of, so thought I'd reach out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Shermeen
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RE: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

[Sandra Streeter]

Interesting--haven't explored the Clock feature. Am very anti-touch-screen, so 
haven't made use of my iPhone as much as I could; will have to check that out, 
though.


Sandra

Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I 
be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
(Mary Oliver) 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

It's actually native to the clock feature of the iPhone. There is a
tab along the bottom of the screen called bedtime.


On 7/16/19, Sandra Streeter  wrote:
> Sorry I don't have suggestions. Where did you get it? Is it fairly
> accessible?
>
> Sandra
>
> Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May
> I be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
> (Mary Oliver)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Shermeen Khan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:34 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Question about the bedtime alarm clock
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've enjoyed the gentle awakeing I've been getting with the bedtime
> alarm clock--I sort of "slide" awake now instead of being jarred,
> which is comparatively pleasant.
>
> I know that if I hit one of the volume buttons, the alarm will go into
> snooze mode, and it'll turn right off if I hit the home button. What I
> can't quite figure is how to turn off the alarm while it's snoozing.
> Does this make sense? So, if the alarm goes off at 6:00, I hit snooze,
> and am ready to actually get out of bed at 6:05. The alarm will go off
> again at 6:10, but I'd prefer to just turn it off when I actually ge
> tout of bed instea dof waiting. Anyway, I'm assuming there's a quick
> fix that I just don't know of, so thought I'd reach out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Shermeen
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RE: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

[Sandra Streeter]

Sorry I don't have suggestions. Where did you get it? Is it fairly accessible?

Sandra

Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I 
be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
(Mary Oliver) 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:34 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Question about the bedtime alarm clock

Hi all,

I've enjoyed the gentle awakeing I've been getting with the bedtime
alarm clock--I sort of "slide" awake now instead of being jarred,
which is comparatively pleasant.

I know that if I hit one of the volume buttons, the alarm will go into
snooze mode, and it'll turn right off if I hit the home button. What I
can't quite figure is how to turn off the alarm while it's snoozing.
Does this make sense? So, if the alarm goes off at 6:00, I hit snooze,
and am ready to actually get out of bed at 6:05. The alarm will go off
again at 6:10, but I'd prefer to just turn it off when I actually ge
tout of bed instea dof waiting. Anyway, I'm assuming there's a quick
fix that I just don't know of, so thought I'd reach out.

Thanks in advance,

Shermeen

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RE: Interesting loink.

[Sandra Streeter]

A link, spoken in a New York accent, hahahahaha!


Sandra

Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I 
be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
(Mary Oliver) 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Interesting loink.

What is a "loink"


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Arnold
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http://a-ghani-k.com/guilty.php?sirgd=JGCM26800

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NFB article on Braille training--was, RE: Braille for seniors?!

[Sandra Streeter]

Students encourage each other to do homework and teach newer students how to 
use the slate and stylus.
•   We see very little conflict between Braille and technology.
Very often people say that they don't need Braille because they have 
technology. The integration of Braille displays and notetakers has demonstrated 
that Braille and speech are not mutually exclusive. The fact that they are 
taught in the same room by the same instructor shows that they are 
complementary rather than oppositional. The same is true of high-tech versus 
low-tech Braille. They are both shown to be useful in different situations. 
While many students still prefer to use a computer rather than a slate and 
stylus, they know that they can use both, and they aren't bound by the battery 
life of the high-tech devices.
•   Students' difficulties are easier for instructors to pinpoint and 
correct.
Breaking the learning process down in the way that we have makes it much easier 
to know if a student is having difficulty with retention or touch. It is very 
easy to tell if the student is unable to remember the sign or unable to feel 
the dots correctly. If the issue is retention, we can see it right away. We can 
shift the emphasis from writing to drills or from drills to writing. If the 
trouble is with touch, we will know it with greater certainty and can proceed 
from this point. This has been extremely useful with students who have 
educational deficits, memory loss, and neuropathy. Figuring out the exact 
nature of a student's difficulties makes dealing with them much easier for both 
the instructor and the student. Knowing what the specific problem is and having 
specific exercises to address the problem makes working through challenges less 
frustrating for adult students.
•   We have seen improved performance in students with high motivation and 
work ethic.
While we have not been able to keep statistics, we have observed generally 
faster reading speeds and improved fluency among those students with high 
motivation and strong work ethic compared with the levels we were seeing before 
we began using this method. These students tend to reach a reading level where 
they can fully process what they are reading and follow the story of a text 
(generally around twenty to thirty words per minute) sooner than such students 
did using the traditional method. Students with average or below-average 
motivation and work ethic seem to show a small improvement over previous 
levels. Braille reading mileage is the biggest factor in Braille reading 
success, and those who don't put in as much effort outside class will always be 
at a substantial disadvantage. However, the more positive outlook and reduced 
stress do seem to make these students more likely to put in time reading 
outside class. This method also appears to make a more noticeable difference 
with students who have higher levels of educational achievement. The logic 
behind the method seems to appeal to students with better analytical skills. 
The lack of difficult or obscure vocabulary in the textbook makes it much 
easier for students with educational deficits to study than the book we 
previously used.
Conclusion
Over the past three and a half years we have seen a remarkable improvement in 
our students' Braillitude. They are excited about Braille and about how it can 
improve their lives. They are also more positive and efficient in their 
learning of the Braille code. We hope to be able to produce and sell our system 
within the next year so that others can implement it. We also hope this will 
enable us to gather data and continue to improve and refine the system to make 
it as effective as possible.




Sandra

Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I 
be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
(Mary Oliver) 


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Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:14 AM
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Subject: Braille for seniors?!

Is it possible for someone over the age of 65 to learn braille?
Exploring the accessibility features of my new iPhone, I chanced upon the 
Braille entry option on the rotor. I tried using it and was amazed at how 
quickly I could start typing in Braille! It was also fun and fast!
Therefore my question-can someone over the age of 65 learn to read Braille? 
I know that with practice I could learn to type in Braille.
But reading braille?? Learning to interpret those raised dots into alphabets at 
a reasonably fast speed! Is it possible for me?
If yes, how should I go about doing it?
Should I be buying a refreshable Braille display?
Help, guidance or any indication about this would be wonderful!
K

P.S. I am actually many years over 65! But ladies are not supposed to give 
their age :-)

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RE: Braille for seniors?!

[Sandra Streeter]

Absolutely! One of the people I had the privilege of teaching was around 70. 
There are secrets to the code, really logical keys,  that make it easier to 
learn than is commonly believed.  Unless you have severe physical or cognitive 
issues that would preclude being able to use it (advanced diabetes with lack of 
finger sensitivity, dementia. E.g.), it's worth giving it the old college try. 
I would check with the NFB, since they are doing some innovative things to help 
folks learn it; also, the Hadley Institute courses are great, self-paced 
options. I tried to paste their YouTube link in, but for whatever reason, 
Outlook wouldn't let it be inserted as a link, so you'll have to type it into 
your browser--sorry. HTH, anyway.

https://www.hadley.edu
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRe7-7jGsk642SHgh-LOtOg

Sandra

Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I 
be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.
(Mary Oliver) 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:14 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Braille for seniors?!

Is it possible for someone over the age of 65 to learn braille?
Exploring the accessibility features of my new iPhone, I chanced upon the 
Braille entry option on the rotor. I tried using it and was amazed at how 
quickly I could start typing in Braille! It was also fun and fast!
Therefore my question-can someone over the age of 65 learn to read Braille? 
I know that with practice I could learn to type in Braille.
But reading braille?? Learning to interpret those raised dots into alphabets at 
a reasonably fast speed! Is it possible for me?
If yes, how should I go about doing it?
Should I be buying a refreshable Braille display?
Help, guidance or any indication about this would be wonderful!
K

P.S. I am actually many years over 65! But ladies are not supposed to give 
their age :-)

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Re: Instant pot smart Wi-Fi six

[Sandra Finley]

Wren, what is this recording you are referring to? Is it something the rest of 
us can access?

Sandy

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 11:00 PM, 'Wren LANGLEY' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> hi Cara,
> Thank you so much for writing. The cancel button which is the  button to the 
> left of the pressure cooker button, and the pressure cooker bottom I’m sorry 
> button is the very bottom button on the right. Anyway to cancel button cancel 
> is the program that you are currently running. The button to turn your Wi-Fi 
> on and off is also the pressure cooker level button, which is on the first 
> row of four buttons. It is the second button from the left to change the 
> level of your pressure cooker you just press that button. If you want to turn 
> your Wi-Fi on or off you press and hold the button.
> 
> No this is still related to the instant pot so I hope it will be hijacking 
> the thread. How have you noticed your app working? I am referring to the 
> instant pot up with voiceover. Mine does not work very well, and I don’t 
> think anyone else’s does. I have been in touch with the company and they said 
> that they are working on the app. The tech-support people that I have talk to 
> are very nice, and today I got a complete rundown of all of the functions of 
> the instant pot. It’s a recording that didn’t turn out too well, but it is 
> understandable. If anyone has any questions, I would be glad to answer them 
> the best that I can.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley PS I should’ve mentioned what I said about the recording I 
> didn’t have the volume quite loud enough so the volume isn’t as loud as it 
> could be, and you know iPhones are, sometimes they break up or they sound a 
> bit blurry it does sound that way on the recording, but I could answer 
> anyone’s questions if they have any.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wren,
>> 
>> The wifi button is also the pressure level button.
>> 
>> You know how the Instant Pot has the four columns of buttons, with columns 1 
>> and 4 having 6 buttons and columns 2 and 3 both having 3…
>> 
>> So you can think of the middle two columns of buttons as a Braille cell.
>> 
>> The Pressure level / wifi button is dot 1 or the top left button of that 
>> middle group. Does that make sense?
>> 
>> I believe one of the buttons in that group also acts as an on / off as well. 
>> I believe it is the Cancel button (dot 6 or the bottom right button of the 
>> middle group) but you can’t hold me to that one. :)
>> 
>> So the pot does need to be on to be seen by the app. I had a similar issue 
>> and I just cannot remember which button was the on /off. Go figure!
>> 
>> Have only had the IP for like three weeks now and love it bunches! :)
>> 
>> Hope this helps at least somewhat. :)
>> 
>> Best of luck to you!
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Cara
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2019, at 10:21 PM, 'Wren LANGLEY' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hi all,
>> Thank you for the help
>> Does anyone have the instant pot smart Wi-Fi six? If you do can you please 
>> tell me where the Wi-Fi button is so that I can finish connecting my phone 
>> in my instant pot?
>> 
>> Thank you so much.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley PS it’s the one that you have to turn on hold for three seconds 
>> so that the pot and phone can see one another or something like that.
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Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Sandra Finley]

My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one question. 
On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu button. Again, 
if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and he taps, it opens, 
and in there are all of the settings I have been looking for, like "my device", 
etc. Why can I not open that menu?   

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Recipesonthe WIFI-enabled App for Instant Pot

[Sandra Finley]

I have been playing around with the app to see if I can make some sense out of 
it. So far, this is what I know.

If you get into an individual recipe, directly below the recipe title there are 
  five toggle buttons.  If you double tap on the one VoiceOver calls Basket, 
you get the ingredients. Back out of that screen with the usual Back button and 
then  double tap the one called Restaurant  and you will find preparation 
directions. I got this result consistently with about twenty recipes.  (See 
what happens when one cannot sleep?)

My husband is going to sit down with me in the next couple of days  and help me 
understand the visual labels. When he does, I will tack an explanation on to 
Terrie's excellent  road map of the buttons and send it out. (We would have 
done this sooner but let's just say lately we have been overcome by the events 
associated with having a large family.)  Meanwhile, HTH

Sandy

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Re: Button Layout on Wifi Instant Pot

[Sandra Finley]

Terrie, thank you. This is wonderful!

> On Jan 1, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
> 
> Hi Les and everyone,
> I am resending the layout for the buttons on the WIFI Instant Pot with 
> forward info stripped out and a clearer subject line. Sorry for previous 
> message and confusion. Les, I could not send this privately to you because I 
> didn't have your email address, so am sending to the list in case others also 
> may want it.
> 
> Here is the WIFI Instant Pot button layout. I am attaching an Excel file with 
> the same info except that it is in rows and columns corresponding to the rows 
> and columns of buttons on the pot. This is for the newe WIFI model, not the 
> old blue tooth or other models.
> 
> There are 3 rows of 2 buttons and then three rows of 4 buttons on the pot. 
> starting rows of two with the top row first.
> 
> row 1 
> left button: soup/broth
> right button rice
> 
> row 2 
> left button meat/stew
> right button multigrain
> 
> rrow 3
> left button bean/chili
> right button poridge
> 
> Row 4
> left button cake
> second button pressure level and wifi on/off. hold for 3 seconds to turn wifi 
> on or off,.
> third button keep warm
> right button steam
> 
> Row 5 
> left button slow cook
> second button decrease time
> third button increase time
> right button yogurt
> 
> Row Six 
> left saute
> second button delay start
> third button cancel
> right button pressure cook
> 
> I am including other notes I took on the Quick Start materials that came with 
> the pot:
> 
> For pressure cooking, add at least  1.5 cups of liquid  unless otherwise 
> specified in the recipe. Liquids include:
> water; broth or stock; fruit or vegetable juice; beer or wine with low 
> alcohol content; water-based cooking sauces.
> 
> Do not fill inner pot higher than PC Max, 2/3 line.
> for foods that expand such as rice or beans, go to the 1/2 line.
> 
> Liquids must be water based. Be cautious when cooking with more than 1/4 cup 
> oil, oil-based sauces, condensed cream-based soups, and thick sauces.
> Add suitable liquid to thin out sauces.
> Avoid recipes that call for more than 1/4 cup oil.
> Before pressurizing, make sure vint is sealed, turned towards the back.
> 
> Pressurizing: until pot pressurizes and vowelve pops up, lid is removable. 
> Once pressurized, lid locks till depressurized.
> 
> to depressurize, can let it cool and depressurize naturally, vowelve goes 
> down when depressurized, or can turn handle on vint.
> 
> NR versus QR: normal release versus quick release: 
> Normal release, let cool naturally and vowelve goes down when pressure is 
> released.
>   Quick release use the handle to unseal the vent.
> 
> HTH.
> VBest,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Wright  
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:48 PM
> To: terrie...@gmail.com
> Subject: WiFi Instant Pot Button Layout
> 
> Hi Terrie,
> 
> I would appreciate the List of buttons and their Layout you of
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: WIFI-Enabled Instant Pot App
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> I would be interested in receiving a description of the buttons on the pot. 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
>> 
>> I also got an Instant Pot for Christmas. I could not find a way to set 
>> programs with the app. However, I did use the buttons on the pot to set the 
>> program and received announcements on the phone when various parts of the 
>> program were finished (e.g., when the program was activated, when the 
>> pressure started to build, when the program went to the warm setting after 
>> the cooking was finished).
>> If anyone wants the description of buttons and their locations on the pot, 
>> let me know and I will send.
>> If there is enough interest, I will share with the list.
>> Email terrie...@gmail.com
>> Best,
>> Terrie Terlau
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 12:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: WIFI-Enabled Instant Pot App
>> 
>> From everything I've read, there is no real work around until the App 
>> developer fixes the accessibility issues.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 8:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: WIFI-Enabled Instant Pot App
>> 
>> Hi Sandy,
>> 
>> Actually, since this is an iPhone app, it certainly appropriate to discuss 
>> this on the list. I would prefer that. I’m having some of the same 
>> difficulties you are. I don’t seem to be able to activate recipes 

WIFI-enabled Instant Pot app

[Sandra Finley]

I received a WIFI-enabled instant pot for Christmas and have some questions. If 
someone who has one could contact me off list, perhaps  we could share 
information without cluttering up this list?  I have some of my questions 
listed below.  

The good news is that I was able to connect the pot to our WIFI network. quite 
easily. This is where the questions begin.

1. The app for the Bluetooth-enabled pot has a dash board that enables the user 
to control the pot from the app.  I do not see where to do that in this app.

2. When I open the app and jump from heading to heading on the first screen I 
have the following headings:
Featured Recipe
Categories
Instant pot today
Newest Recipes and
Instant Pot Today.
Under Featured Recipes I find Cauliflower Mac and Cheese. When I do a 
one-finger double tap and then flick right, I get 
"Star Image" 4 times, followed by
"Star outline", followed by the name of the recipe's author, the recipe's 
difficulty, prep time, and more.  But where is the recipe?

3.  When I go to Categories, and one-finger double tap on a given category, I 
get inconsistent results.  « Double tapping the Desserts button sometimes 
produces a list of recipes. 
If I have been in the app too long and pressing too many buttons, double 
tapping the Desserts button produces no result at all -- I remain in the 
Categories list. Closing and reopening the app solves that problem. But this is 
not true of all of the Categories buttons; on some of them, such as Meat, 
Poultry, and Pastas,  double tapping the button produces no result at all.  

Thanks for your help. 

Sandy Finley

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Re: Hulu

[Sandra Streeter]

I’ve been with them for maybe a year now; haven’t had issues, except that (like 
anyone) they don’t have absolutely everything I want (e.g., I wanted to watch 
the movie “Ice Castles,” and it wasn’t among their selections). Good luck!



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From: Lynda Ingraham 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Hulu

Good Morning, 

 

Could someone post an update as to how accessible Hulu is currently? We have 
become quite fond of NetFlix and reading and don't watch much tv any more. 
Spectrum rates are going up again here in NY. If we can get similar programming 
with Hulu for what little we watch, we have no problem parting company with 
Spectrum. 

 

I am wondering about search features and the labling of buttons etc. 

 

Thank you in advance, 

 

Lynda 

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Re: VoiceOver Gestures?

[Sandra Streeter]

If you can get your hands on Anna Dresner’s iPhone books, there are 
descriptions of the gestures; also, I’m sure, available through Hadley 
Institute’s videos.



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From: Tom 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:40 PM
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Subject: VoiceOver Gestures?

Does anyone know where I can get a current command of the latest gestures for 
VoiceOver?  I ended up upgrading to IOS 12.

There’s a gesture I simply cannot remember.  How can I get to the top of a 
screen or email or document?  Sometime my finger lands me in the middle or 
bottom but I can’t get back to the top or beginning.

I’d love to learn or relearn the VoiceOver gestures.

Thank you!

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Re: Apple's new iphones

[Sandra Streeter]

I do.





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-Original Message- 
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway.

On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  
wrote:


that is right, no more 3d touch.

-Original Message- From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
escribió:


Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

[Sandra Streeter]

I also don't like the idea of a big, honkin' screen. I am small-handed, and 
appreciate it when I don't have to reach far for items; I know you can do 
that "reachability" thing, but it's also about just not wanting a wider 
distance from edge to edge. Plus, I don't want to have to find more real 
estate within whatever carry-bag I happen to have, just to accommodate a 
larger screen. If I were low-vision and not total, that would probably be 
different.




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-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is 
the touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face 
ID. I don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even 
under my desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I could 
have it in my pocket and activate it with touch ID. Also, if you happen to 
be one of those blind people who can’t use the attention feature of the Face 
ID, Face ID is massively not secure. If somebody takes your iPhone, all they 
have to do is put it in front of your face, and it opens, and they have 
access to everything. And that can be a problem in certain settings. If you’re 
lucky enough to be able to use the attention setting, which all ighted 
people do, that’s not a big deal. But in certain settings, it’s everything 
from a nuisance to a serious risk. And finally, there is the matter of the 
gestures. Yes, I’m sure they are doable. Blind people are doing them. But it’s 
just so unnecessary. It’s just a shame that they couldn’t keep a phone 
around with the home button and touch ID. But everybody has to have giant 
displays so they can watch movies on their phones I guess. It certainly is 
the wave of the future for Apple. So if you’re going to stick with Apple 
products, guess you have to get on the bandwagon. I certainly would not buy 
either of the S models. If I get an ex this year, it’s going to be the R. I 
just don’t see enough bang for the buck to splurge on those other things. If 
I traveled a lot, the dual sim feature is interesting. And the stereo 
recording would be good for some people. But it’s not worth at least $250 
more over the cost of the entry-level r model.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
escribió:



Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

[Sandra Streeter]

Adding my vote for nothing higher than an 8, at this point, too.




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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
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I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
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Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones

that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and

the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got

an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
home button yet either.

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Re: pluggable blue tooth keyboard

[Sandra]

Quick question for Michael--if you like, contact me off-list: Are you the 
Mike Irons who attended Lions World Svcs (known as Arkansas Enterprises for 
the Blind) college prep. program in 1983?






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-Original Message- 
From: Michael Irons

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pluggable blue tooth keyboard

Hello Lena, to the best of my knowledge they do not sell any keyboards that 
plug-in to the iPhone. If you’re looking for a keyboard for your iPhone you 
will have to get a Bluetooth keyboard if you wish you may talk to me off 
list about details.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2018, at 6:26 AM,  
 wrote:


No, it's just called "plugable" it is Bluetooth and can be used on windows 
pc, IOS or android.



-Original Message-
From: 'evergreenwoods' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 6:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: pluggable blue tooth keyboard

Does the Pluggable keyboard is for the iPhone? Does it mean that I can 
plug it in the iPhone instead of being wireless?
I'm looking for a keyboard for my iPhone, and I don't know which one to 
buy..

Rena


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Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: pluggable blue tooth keyboard

Wow, could you give makes and model numbers? None of the Logitech wireless 
keyboards ever have two Windows Key, they do have a key on the right which 
one assume should be an application key but which doesn’t function as such 
at least not out of the box and my K780 bluetooth keyboard only has an Alt 
and a Control key on the right.
I also had some cheap Logitech wired keyboards and I don't think they had 
a second Windows Key, only keyboards where I typically see it are the 
Microsoft keyboards.


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Re: Amazon app search bug seems to have been fixed.

[Sandra]

Great! I had gotten some helpful advice for fixing the issue on my desktop 
computer, and hadn't known whether they'd helped users of the phone app.






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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 5:52 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Amazon app search bug seems to have been fixed.

So, I just opened the Amazon to reorder a mop I'd purchased a while ago (yay 
for losing things in a huge cross-country move from California to 
Massachusetts) and I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could flick 
down by headings for more than just two or three times before needing to do 
a three-finger swipe up. It was back to its lovely behavior of before, i.e. 
letting me go down and down by heading with no scrolling of pages required. 
I went to the app store just to check that I was running the latest version, 
and I am. The app said open next to it, not update, so I know I'm running 
the latest version. I think Amazon must have broken something internally 
that didn't require an app update to put right again. Either way, this is 
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Re: Amazon App Problems

[Sandra]

So, I just called the disability help line. They had me clear my history, 
and it seems to be working fine now. Why this should affect things in the 
past half-week, for multiple screen-reader users on different systems with 
different browser preferences, I don't get; he said it may have something to 
do with bookmarks being generated by your browser or something. I still 
question why-now, and why so many people, but am glad that, at least for 
now, I seem to be able to navigate Amazon again. So, see if clearing out 
your browser history helps.




Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Penny Reeder

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon App Problems

Good luck with that. I was trying to order a book last night using the
Amazon.com app on my IPhone. When I got to the Submit button, tappiing
it did nothing. I tried repeatedly for several minutes, then I called
the Disability Help Number. The whole experience was completely
unsatisfactory.

I understand that the people on the help line are not allowed to make
a purchase, and what I couldn't do was to get the Submit button to
work -- to make the purchase. I was simply asking for the person on
the phone to report the problem with using the app with VoiceOver.

HHe could see the item in my cart.

He couldn't figure out why I couldn't submit my order.

He refused to report the problem because he said he couldn't see what
the problem was.

The whole encounter was totally frustrating.

Then, after I hung up, he called me back to say he had figured out why
I couldn't submit my order. It was, he said, because the book was out
of stock for the next couple of days.

I already knew that, and that was not the issue, since I was simply
ordering the book which Amazon would deliver as soon as it came back
into stock, on August 25 I believe.

After that encounter, I tried one more time. I closed the app. I
opened the app, the book was still in my cart, I still couldn't make
the submit button work by tapping on it. I closed VoiceOver, then
turned it back on, and lo and behold, finally, the Place Order button
worked, and my order when through.

I found working with the HelpLine person more frustrating than dealing
with the problem that had led me to call.
Penny

On 8/19/18, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Regina,

You can contact Amazon, directly from within the iOS app, itself.

1.
From the Navigation Menu, located near the upper right corner of the
display, select Customer Service.

2.
Select Contacts Us.

I'm certain they will be happy to provide a feedback email address.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of regina alvarado
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon App Problems



 Yes, yes. With plenty of perseverance I can use the app. However, if it
stays on the same trajectory, it will not be usable after a few more
updates. I tried to find an email address I could use to express my
displeasure to but could find nothing. This is an app that needs to remain
very accessible!
Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend 
all

day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits
of a broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Aug 17, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Sandra  wrote:

Same issues even on a desktop.






Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
until it is faced."
(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- From: Bobby Druesedow
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon App Problems

Hello,

Has anyone noticed a big difference in finding products using the Amazon 
app
on the iPhone? I'M not sure when it changed, but it has been within the 
last
3 or 4 weeks. In the past, I was able to search for an item, and a long 
list
of items would come up that I could scroll through by headings. Now, after 
a

search, it may show 142 results, but I can only get through about 4 items
before I run into a back button. I can't seem to get past the first 
several

items anymore. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Amazon App Problems

[Sandra]

There was a time that seemed true--the site was user-friendly to be able to 
place orders, do returns, and more, and at the bottom of the page was a 
little blurb giving the #, implying that that was for whenever you couldn't 
get your thing done on the site. Now, I find the site completely 
nonfunctional, so I think I should give them a shout tomorrow and 
complain--hopefully a lot of screen-reader users will also...






Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Mary Jo Partyka

Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon App Problems

I have also been having problems with the Amazon app.  I usually use it on 
the computer.  It was easier touse before.  Amazon will [probably reply taht 
they have a Disability line but I think the site should be more Accessible 
and compliant.  The disability line should be the last resort.



Mary Jo Partyka
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On Aug 19, 2018, at 3:30 PM, regina alvarado  
wrote:




Yes, yes. With plenty of perseverance I can use the app. However, if it 
stays on the same trajectory, it will not be usable after a few more 
updates. I tried to find an email address I could use to express my 
displeasure to but could find nothing. This is an app that needs to remain 
very accessible!

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend 
all day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the 
spirits of a broken heart." So God made a dog.



On Aug 17, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Sandra  wrote:

Same issues even on a desktop.






Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- From: Bobby Druesedow
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon App Problems

Hello,

Has anyone noticed a big difference in finding products using the Amazon 
app on the iPhone? I'M not sure when it changed, but it has been within 
the last 3 or 4 weeks. In the past, I was able to search for an item, and 
a long list of items would come up that I could scroll through by 
headings. Now, after a search, it may show 142 results, but I can only get 
through about 4 items before I run into a back button. I can't seem to get 
past the first several items anymore. Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Amazon App Problems

[Sandra]

Same issues even on a desktop.






Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Bobby Druesedow

Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon App Problems

Hello,

Has anyone noticed a big difference in finding products using the Amazon app 
on the iPhone? I'M not sure when it changed, but it has been within the last 
3 or 4 weeks. In the past, I was able to search for an item, and a long list 
of items would come up that I could scroll through by headings. Now, after a 
search, it may show 142 results, but I can only get through about 4 items 
before I run into a back button. I can't seem to get past the first several 
items anymore. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: Send Sound for Text Messages

[Sandra Streeter]

Try phonezoo.com first--they're free, if they have the one you want. I think 
they send it as a text, then you have to somehow move it into where it can 
become a phone ring. It's been a long time since I've done it, so hopefully, 
someone can consult with you on the particulars.






Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Susie Stageberg

Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Send Sound for Text Messages

Is there a way to get the theme from the '60's Batman show as a ringtone? 
How about Dragnet?


Susie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sandra Streeter

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Send Sound for Text Messages

Someday I'll either find for free or buy several more ringtones: the theme
from NYPD Blue and from St. Elsewhere; a Trans-siberian Orchestra song for
Christmas; and maybe something from a Brahms symphony, since I'm really into
him.



Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
until it is faced."
(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Send Sound for Text Messages

I like the little shoof sound, sounds kind of like my granddaughter's voice.
So, I didn't change that. I have minuette for my Voice mail. I like the Ding
for texts.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Send Sound for Text Messages

Mike,
Idon't think there isn't a text send sound.

Richard



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there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." -- Terry Pratchett







[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



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Hi All,

I'm running an SE with the latest iOS 11.4.  I want to change the text
message outgoing / sent swoosh sound, but I for the life of me can't figure
out how it's done!  I can change the incoming / receive sound, but not the
sent sound!  Would y'all please enlighten me on how this is done?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Send Sound for Text Messages

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Someday I'll either find for free or buy several more ringtones: the theme 
from NYPD Blue and from St. Elsewhere; a Trans-siberian Orchestra song for 
Christmas; and maybe something from a Brahms symphony, since I'm really into 
him.




Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

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-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Send Sound for Text Messages

I like the little shoof sound, sounds kind of like my granddaughter's voice. 
So, I didn't change that. I have minuette for my Voice mail. I like the Ding 
for texts.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Send Sound for Text Messages

Mike,
Idon't think there isn't a text send sound.

Richard



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I'm running an SE with the latest iOS 11.4.  I want to change the text 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendation

[Sandra Streeter]

Just starting to learn an iPhone 8. Would a keyboard help in situations 
where you're presented with an itemized menu that you have to press a 
certain # for whatever item? I don't mind using the regular onboard 
keyboard, but am thinking ahead to whenever I have to deal with the menu 
situation.




Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed 
until it is faced."

(James Baldwin)
-Original Message- 
From: Kwork

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendation

Susie, I love the three thumbs up. It made me laugh!
I'm glad you're a fan of it too.
Travis
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendation


I bought a Logitech 380 for my phone and really like it. I paid $35 at
Amazon (I don't have Prime.) I echo everything Travis says. The missing
Numpad doesn't bother me, and the touch isn't an issue. If I want to take it
with me, it slips into my bag with nary a complaint. Navigating on the phone
with this keyboard is really slick. I'd give it three thumbs up.

Susie


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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:59 AM
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Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard recommendation

Travis, thank you for this complete review about the logitech 380  keyboard.
It sounds like  a great keyboard. I'm not sure, but I think the keyboard you
have has been recomended here on the list before, besides some other
logitech key boards, such as the 780,  and I think there was 480, and a few
other model numbers. We're interested in seeing these keyboards since they
all seem like good keyboards. The price for your 380 is really great, just
$7 more than the black webb one. The exchange of these keyboards is really
great coming from one another's experiences.

Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Kwork" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard recommendation


I've been using the Logitech 380 keyboard for a couple of days now.

Dark gray:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-K380-Multi-Device-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0148NPH9I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1534205524=8-1=logitech+380

Blue:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148NPAT0/ref=twister_B0159PSADO?_encoding=UTF8=1

With prime, they're about $27. Without prime, you'll need a third party
seller, prices starting around $20 for refurbished and $33 for new at time
of writing.

Cons: Very few that I've found, so will deal with these first as they are
preference only.
No separate number pad. The numbers are on the row above the qwerty line.
There are function keys. Positive is that most work. The negative for those
wanting to use the keyboard to brighten and darken the screen won't be able
to do so with f1 or f2. F1, f2, f3 are reserved for the three channels
allowed by the keyboard, so three devices can be paired.
For those used to harder to push square keys, you'll be out of luck. Instead
of squares and rectangles for longer keys, you now will have round and oval
shaped keys, and a much more sensitive touch, so no slamming the keys in
anger. Doing so on this lightweight keyboard could possibly break something.

The positives. So far, everything else.
The touch is light.
Responsiveness is nearly immediate. The negative being that it is easily
possible to press a double letter while getting used to the lightness of
touch.
There is an on/off switch on the side.
So far, the AAA battery is lasting.
Thickness is about half of that of a regular keyboard. So is the weight.
Length is probably three inches shorter than a regular keyboard since there
is no numpad. Height is probably one inch less than a regular keyboard.

So far, well worth the purchase.

Arlene, I couldn't find the Black webb keyboards online, and a trip to
Walmart was not in our immediate future, so my wife ordered this one on her
Prime account instead. So far, very happy with it, and it's not $100. :)
Travis
- Original Message - 
From: "Arlene" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard recommendation


I think if the keys were round and about the size of my fingers that are
small, if the keys were even just slightly bigger than my finger or about
the same size, to me, it sounds like it would be confortable to type on.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: bluetooth keyboard recommendation


I think I'd prefer round, because there would, by necessity be a little more
separation of keys. It's all a matter of taste, said the old man who kissed
the cow.

Best regards,

Carolyn

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Re: Unzipping a .brf file

[Sandra E. Finley]

Anna, I am unzipping files now and getting the books. Thanks.

> On May 9, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi sandra,
> 
> Are you planning to use BARD Mobile? If so, download the braille book in BARD 
> Mobile; it will handle the unzipping. If you are using a different method, 
> you can unzip the book on the Mac by locating it in Finder and pressing 
> Command-O or Command-Down Arrow. The Mac will unzip the book into a folder 
> with the same name as the zip file.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Sandra E. Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For the first time in a  long time I am trying to read a braille book on a 
>> braille display. I downloaded a book from BARD and my display acts like it 
>> is not there. How do I unzip the book on the Mac? I forget..
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Re: Unzipping a .brf file

[Sandra E. Finley]

Anna et Al,

My plan was to download the .brf onto my Mac, unzip it, and copy the unzipped 
file to a Braille Edge that I now have. I must  not be unzipping correctly 
because when I go to open the file, one of two things happens.  (1) I get 
either a message that says "no item" or (2), there appears to be a file but 
there is nothing in it.  I say there appears to be a file because when I use 
the appropriate commands I get told I am at the beginning or end of the 
wordless document. I have copied some .txt files onto the Edge and opened them 
successfully.

I would love to use BARD but don't know a way to transfer the unzipped BARD 
file to my Edge -- I use BARD constantly to download audio books onto my 
stream. 
Come to think of it can I download a .brf onto my Victor and copy it from that 
sd card to the card in the Edge? Or will Victor render the .brf file as 
unintelligible  to the Edge?

Sandy

> On May 9, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi sandra,
> 
> Are you planning to use BARD Mobile? If so, download the braille book in BARD 
> Mobile; it will handle the unzipping. If you are using a different method, 
> you can unzip the book on the Mac by locating it in Finder and pressing 
> Command-O or Command-Down Arrow. The Mac will unzip the book into a folder 
> with the same name as the zip file.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Sandra E. Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For the first time in a  long time I am trying to read a braille book on a 
>> braille display. I downloaded a book from BARD and my display acts like it 
>> is not there. How do I unzip the book on the Mac? I forget..
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Unzipping a .brf file

[Sandra E. Finley]

For the first time in a  long time I am trying to read a braille book on a 
braille display. I downloaded a book from BARD and my display acts like it is 
not there. How do I unzip the book on the Mac? I forget..

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Re: Braille Screen Input Has Gone Screwey

[Sandra E. Finley]

Anna, I tried that; simply failed to mention in previous message. Thanks, 
though, ‘cause could have missed it.

Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 8, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Did you try recalibrating the dots? To do this, put your fingers for dots 
> 4-5-6 on the screen all together, then lift them and do dots 1-2-3. I hope 
> that helps.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2018, at 1:00 PM, Sandra E. Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am a regular, and untill recently, happy user of the afore-mentioned  
>> feature . Suddenly dots 2 and 3 have changed position on my screen. I have 
>> rebooted; I have updated software; I have tried Away and Table Top an fooled 
>> with the BSI settings, all to no avail.  
>> 
>> The effect of this is if I try to write the word  Braille, I get k r a st l 
>> l e. 
>> 
>> I have reported the issue to apple; the rep, good sport that he was, enabled 
>> BSI up on his phone and took screen shots of mine so he could see the 
>> difference. He said it was clearly visible.  I am asking that any other BSI 
>> users who may have experienced this please take the time to call Apple so 
>> they will know that others carre as well. . We are a small but devoted fan 
>> group for this feature and the engineers need to know that it is, indeed, 
>> bSI that has gone awry and not this writer.  Thanks!
>> 
>> Sandy Finley
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Braille Screen Input Has Gone Screwey

[Sandra E. Finley]

I am a regular, and untill recently, happy user of the afore-mentioned  feature 
. Suddenly dots 2 and 3 have changed position on my screen. I have rebooted; I 
have updated software; I have tried Away and Table Top an fooled with the BSI 
settings, all to no avail.  

The effect of this is if I try to write the word  Braille, I get k r a st l l 
e. 

I have reported the issue to apple; the rep, good sport that he was, enabled 
BSI up on his phone and took screen shots of mine so he could see the 
difference. He said it was clearly visible.  I am asking that any other BSI 
users who may have experienced this please take the time to call Apple so they 
will know that others carre as well. . We are a small but devoted fan group for 
this feature and the engineers need to know that it is, indeed, bSI that has 
gone awry and not this writer.  Thanks!

Sandy Finley

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Spotify Problem

[Sandra E. Finley]

I am trying to convert a spotify account from free to premium. I tried on my 
iPhone 7 with updated software and I cannot get the picker items for month and 
year on the credit card to work. I got them to work on my Mac but I eventually 
got a message that the payment failed — this occurred with both a credit and 
debit cards. And I have used the same cards for other things on the same day 
and they worked.  I have seen some questions about this very problem on the 
Spotify help page but I don’t see a clear explanation.  Has anyone experienced 
this and do you have a solution? Thanks.

Sandy Finley

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Braille display Comparison

[Sandra E. Finley]

Has anyone on this list used the Braille Edge and the Braillant? If so, which 
do you prefer with the iPhone?  Thanks.

Sandy Finley


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Re: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?

[Sandra E. Finley]

I have read this thread with interest because I want to buy another Braille 
display; I bought a VarioUltra 20 and I regret that decision, partly because of 
its difficulty connecting with iPhone and now the US office is gone. I am 
reluctant to consider the BrailleMe because it is not based here and I don’t 
want the same experience. Also, I really want more cells, 40 or 32. If an Orbit 
20 cann be $500 or less, could a 40 be $900 or so? Does anyone know if Orbit is 
considering that option?

Sandy Finley
Sandy 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kitty,
> 
> No I have not considered buying a more expensive display. I run on a limited 
> budget. Because I have a job, i do not qualify for state assistance. That 
> leaves orbit or braille me as most viable choices.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:40 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
>> chris, have you considered something a bit more pricy, but not as high as 
>> braille note touch or braillesense polaris?  Am thinking braille ddge from 
>> hims?  I have never used it, but have heard goot reports. 
>>  
>> From: Cris Ali
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> I agree with you Kitty,  I prefer to have the cursor routing buttons over 
>> having braille dots seven and eight.  I suppose If I am to do professional 
>> editing, Dots seven and eight can be very important.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kitty hevener
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> Chris, I have used braille displays for years and am trying to remember when 
>> I last used dots 7 and 8.  I will tell u that those dots are used to show 
>> the cursor.  I have also seen times when the full cell is used to show the 
>> cursor.  I think the main issue is not in locating the cursor, but routing 
>> it quickly to the area you want to edit.  I personally use cursor routing 
>> buttons so much that if I did not have them, I would go nuts!!! It’s just so 
>> efficient to hit the button right where your finger is and have the cursor 
>> come right there.  
>>  
>> From: Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> Off hand, with an 8 dot display, it is very easy to find the cursor.  Also, 
>> I believe that computer Braille utilyzes dots 7 and 8.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Cris Ali
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:02 PM
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> I like to hear from those who use braille displays.  What are the advantages 
>> of having eight dots braille cells verses having six dots braille cells?  
>> Does it make a huge difference in practical terms?
>> Regards,
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Donna
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> Hi
>>  
>> In the March edition of APH newsletter the Orbit Reader 20 should be 
>> available for purchase again sometime this summer. Unfortunately APH is the 
>> only place to purchase the Orbit Reader 20.
>>  
>> There is another low cost braille display that you can research for 
>> information; the Braille Me. I think the price for the Braille me is $450.
>>  
>> Donna
>>  
>> It’s my understanding now that APH isn’t shipping orbits until the summer.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> Hi Carla,
>> Where did you order your orbit reader?  I have been checking the American 
>> Printing House for the last three weeks, and I continuously find a message 
>> on the website that says: currently out of stock.  Is there any other 
>> distributer?
>> Regards,
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Carla
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays: braille me or orbit braille reader?
>>  
>> If you find the routing buttons helpful I would go ahead and order the 
>> Braille Me.  I don't know if they are similar in price.  I just ordered the 
>> Orbit and it meets my needs very well.  There is a lot I have to learn about 
>> it but it works very well with the iDevices.
>>  
>> Carla
>>  
>>  
>> From: 

Re: Walmart Grocery App

[Sandra E. Finley]

Well, believe it or not, last night I found an update to the Walmart Grocery 
app and, bingo!! Now I can read what I could not just hours earlier.


Terry, if your iOS is updated, once signed in to the app, go to the bottom of 
the screen, where there are five tabs. The left most one is “Home.” Double tap 
that.  In the next screen, the top line says, “Find items by scanning product 
bar codes.”
Across from that is “home”
And on the right, “Shopping cart.”
I double tapped there and then I could read my order. 


HTH

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:15 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer 
> <thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Just curious what version of iOS you are using, I don't have any problem 
> reading what is in my cart in the grocery app at all. I just did an order a 
> few days ago and it worked really well. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Terry Nord <tern...@sherbtel.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The Sam’s Club app does the same thing. It will give you the item number but 
>> no description. If you want descriptions in your card you have to do it 
>> online at Sam’s Club.com. And that presents all kinds of problems too. You 
>> can work around it but it’s a mess.
>> 
>> Terry Nord
>> Ask me about healthy chocolate! 
>> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to! 
>> ternor...@gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Sandra E. Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
>> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
>> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to 
>> my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. 
>> I see a table with headings like,
>> Item Description, 
>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
>> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
>> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>> 
>> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 
>> 
>> Sandy
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>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
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Walmart Grocery App

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Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my husband 
 is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to my cart. 
The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. I see a 
table with headings like,
 Item Description, 
Subtotal,
Unit Price.
I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that text 
is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?

IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 

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Speech Central Questions

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Using fully updated iPhone 7 with Speech Central Pro. A few questions:

1. Has anyone found a user guide for this app?

2. I have been succcessful in adding web page articles to the app, but have not 
been able to add a .pdf document I need to read. Got the .pdf as an attachment 
to an email, opened it and tried to add to SC through the Share Sheet, but to 
no avail.

3. Under Button Functions in settings there is something about remapping 
buttons 
To this app. How does one do that?


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Logitech 480 keyboard

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I just received a Logitech 480 keyboard for Christmas from my stepson.  I 
paired it with my phone with magical ease... but I have a couple of questions.

What are the keys on the top row?  Some of them are not identified when in the 
Help mode of QuickNav.

What other tips does anyone have?  Keep inmind this is my second Logitech 
keyboard so I know the basics so  am interested in what pertains to this 
keyboard specifically. Thanks.

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Re: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

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Mary, I do as Richard said but I often add “location” at the end. 

So I will say something like:
“Schedule an appointment for October X at X time; Title is X and location is 
X.”  HTH.

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> Hi Mary,
> There are several ways to do this, but the syntax I have settled on is to say:
> "create an appointment titled Dr. Smith on November first at 10 AM."
> Siri will repeat it and ask if you want it scheduled, say yes and you are 
> done.
> 
> You can add the length of the appointment to by saying create a 90 minute 
> appointment, and so on.
> I hope that helps,
> Richard
> 
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> Hi all,
> Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. Usually 
> something messes up. I think there is a certain specific syntax you have to 
> use, and then it works. I don't use it often enough to remember that syntax. 
> Can someone please refresh my memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could 
> become smart enough not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple 
> calendar entry correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??
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Knfb Reader will not be moved

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i am curious. I often put apps in folders. KNFB Reader simply will  not move! 
It remains in the precise location it plunked itself in when downloaded. I 
wonder why. !



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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

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Have you tried asking siri?  I asked siri, I just said, shuffle my music and 
she did it for me.



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I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.

Teresa
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Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me 
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Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio

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oops sorry just ignore that post, I thought for a moment that you meant 
music in general. so very sorry about that, I apologise.

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Subject: Re: How to shuffle in iTunes radio



there may be a way to have a couple of genres running at the same time.
I was enamored of their opera channel, and they sure won't let me get
there anymore, somehow.
but it's all right.  iTunes is only 1 strand of my iPod radio.  I paid
to join calm radio on the PC which never did work for me, but it is
wonderful for a blind user on the iPod; but expensive.  Well, I think it
is.
But it has lots of sub-categories in the classical genre.
Okay, this ramble has reached a conclusion.  And I hope to hear about an
inexpensive football source. I put one in, which was free, but the
choices did not speak; it was a shame, for it started out speaking.
There was an A section with the NFL teams whose names began with A; B
for the B's, etc.
After I had selected the Chicago Bears, there were 2 stations.  Well, i
picked the first one and it started playing hard-rock, for, of course,
there was no game then.  But I could hardly turn that off and get back
out to the menu with the A B C's.
So I just deleted the app.  Isn't that the way to do it--if at first you
don't succeed, give up?
Grin.

On 9/27/2013 11:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I don’t think there is a way.  The whole point of radio is the randomness 
to begin with. haha.  I would think if a shuffle option was needed, the 
radio function isn’t very good.


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I'm not aware of any way to do this, either.

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Hello, I don't know how to shuffle in iTunes radio can someone help me 
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Re: Sending a text message from contacts

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Yes Kim I have noticed this as well.


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Hi All,

Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed
when sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send
message link on a contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being
placed in the to field rather than in the blank message area? This
despite that the contact name has already been entered in the to
field.

I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if
others have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of
apple accessibility.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Sending a text message from contacts

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Oh OK thanks for this.

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- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: Sending a text message from contacts


This has always been the case. It is so you can add additional contacts or 
phone numbers to the text message.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Sep 2013, at 16:10, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi All,

Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Has anyone else noticed
when sending a text message to a contact, that is from the send
message link on a contact's screen, the edit cursor is now being
placed in the to field rather than in the blank message area? This
despite that the contact name has already been entered in the to
field.

I have only seen this since updating to ios7 and was wondering if
others have seen it too. If so, I will bring it to the attention of
apple accessibility.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Facebook app update

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same here.
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- Original Message - 
From: Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook app update



I am able to see and read my Notifications. I could not do this before.

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes

On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:06 AM, janet wright jan...@wrighthere.net 
wrote:


wow I still can't see my notifications on the face book ap



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!

-Original Message- From: Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook app update

Hi,
I on the other hand have noticed that after the update, i can now see 
notifications which i couldn't before yesterday. I don't remember what 
else to look out for so can't either say yes or no to if the bug exists.

/Krister


26 sep 2013 kl. 13:18 skrev Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com:

I notice that there was an update to the Facebook update yesterday, 
which as
far as I can tell completely fails to fix any of the accessibility 
problems

we've been complaining about.

Cheers

Alex

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facebook.

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi All,

Just in case you guys haven't seen it yet but there is an update for facebook.  
You can now get to your likes and comments and read them now.  Just letting you 
people know.
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Re: VO skipping pages on my 4s

[Sandra Heaton]

I have to say that I was having that problem but all of a sudden it seems to 
have settled down now.  Very weird but there you are.



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- Original Message - 
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: VO skipping pages on my 4s



I am not so sure that this is a bug but rather that people have their
hands on the screen to long. I am not having the same problem.

On 9/23/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Don't forget you can always tap on the bottom left hand corner of the 
screen


to access the first item on your dock. You can then swipe once to the 
left

to access the control that will allow you to switch from one homepage to
another. Swipe up once to go to your next Home screen. You can swipe up 
or

down as many times as you would like to be taken to a specific screen.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: VO skipping pages on my 4s


Hi Kimber,

This is by now a documented and confirmed bug in iOS 7 and has to do with
that entire hypersensitivity of the touch screen. The only thing you can 
do

and it may or may not help a bit is to go to Accessibility Settings and
turn
on Reduced Motion which is towards the bottom of the main accessibility
settings screen. Some people reported it helps a bit. I would strongly
encourage you to take the time and report this to accessibil...@apple.com
since it is probably one of the more annoying bugs yet.

I would also try and do a very precise swipe and then keep your hand well
away from the screen for a bit longer than usual because what seems to be
happening is that after you do the swipe you don't even have to quite 
touch

the screen for the touch screen to sense your hand and somehow repeat the
gesture.

If you haven't turned on Reduced Motion yet, I suggest you remove all 
apps

from the app switcher, then turn it on and then shut down your phone and
reboot it after 30 or so seconds. Not sure if this will help, but I can
guaranty it won't hurt.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:12 AM
To: viphone
Subject: VO skipping pages on my 4s

This is a strange problem, so I hope I can explain it adequately.

When I do a three finger swipe to move from say the home page to page 2,
the
focus pauses on page 2 for only a second or less then jumps to page 3. In
order to get to page 2 I have to swipe back and place my finger quickly 
on

one of the icons before the page can run away.
This happenswith other pages too. Say I want to go from page 4 to page 5.
The same type of brief focus then the jump to page 6.

It's very annoying and I'm not sure how to stop it.

Has anyone else seen this? Or does anyone have a clue what is going on?
Might it have anything to do with the pages not being filled but having
only
a few apps?

Looking for help here.

Thanks in advance,
Kimber

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Re: Unable to read what I have written when composing a text message in IOS7

[Sandra Heaton]

same here I am experiencing the same thing very frustrating and also when you 
are composing your message if you hit too far up the cursor jumps just like it 
does in facebook.  


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  From: Ed Allen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Unable to read what I have written when composing a text message 
in IOS7


  My experience is the same.  Frustrating.





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Re: VO skipping pages on my 4s

[Sandra Heaton]

Yes I know exactly what you mean because I am having the same problem as 
well and I have to do exactly what you are doing putting a finger on the 
icon.


It doesn't matter what you do, its very hypo sensitive.  I don't think there 
is very much you can do at the moment except just try and persevere with it.





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- Original Message - 
From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:11 PM
Subject: VO skipping pages on my 4s



This is a strange problem, so I hope I can explain it adequately.

When I do a three finger swipe to move from say the home page to page
2, the focus pauses on page 2 for only a second or less then jumps to
page 3. In order to get to page 2 I have to swipe back and place my
finger quickly on one of the icons before the page can run away.
This happenswith other pages too. Say I want to go from page 4 to page
5. The same type of brief focus then the jump to page 6.

It's very annoying and I'm not sure how to stop it.

Has anyone else seen this? Or does anyone have a clue what is going
on? Might it have anything to do with the pages not being filled but
having only a few apps?

Looking for help here.

Thanks in advance,
Kimber

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Re: Reduced Motion in IOS 7

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It doesn't help that much  I don't think.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Duck 
  To: iPhone List 
  Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:37 PM
  Subject: Reduced Motion in IOS 7


  Hi Everyone,

  Many people have suggested that turning on reduced motion might help with the 
Voice Over bugs in IOS7.  I have turned on reduced motion, followed by turning 
the phone off and back on.  I can't tell any difference. I guess that we are 
just going to have to live with it until the next IOS update, when they will 
hopefully fix it.  Has anyone else found that reduced motion helps?

  Thanks,

  Scott Duck


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Re: Problems with the Facebook app

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi All,

I really don't recommend you upgrade to the latest version of facebook.  The 
notifications are there but instead of being at the top, they are now at the 
bottom but vo won't read them at all.  It is also running a lot slower with or 
without vo.  

I do hope that FB will be able to fix this problem soon as it would seem to me 
that with every upgrade they seem to be going backwards not forwards.  It seems 
to be getting more complicated in my view.


Sandra 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcos Rodrigues 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:06 AM
  Subject: Problems with the Facebook app


  Hi folks:


  I am using IOS7 and the last version of the Facebook app (it was updated 
today).


  I am no longer able to read my notifications inside the app, don't know if it 
is a problem of accessibility of the app or if I am doing something wrong. It 
looks like VO identifies something on the screen but is unable to read it.


  Is anyone having the same problem?


  Regards.

  Marcos Rodrigues
  mrodrigue...@hotmail.com







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Re: Gmail and iOS 7 on iPhone 4S

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi,

You have to go to the bottom of the screen and on the left you will find the 
move button, double tap and then come down to trash folder double tap that 
and your message goes in to the trash folder as there doesn't appear to be a 
delete button not that I can find.


HTH


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- Original Message - 
From: Marissa Solaun solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:27 AM
Subject: Gmail and iOS 7 on iPhone 4S


Dear list
Have a question regarding Gmail, I set up Gmail on my iPhone 4S running iOS 
7. The only thing I cannot figure out is is there a way to delete email 
messages like before with iOS 6 where you could turn the archive option off 
(in settings , mail) and the message would just be deleted when you pressed 
the delete button?  If so I am not finding that option. the only option I 
find is to archive the message


Anyone's assistance would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
Marissa

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Re: Ios 7 urgent questions

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Try putting in l after the a for Alex and see if that brings it up.


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- Original Message - 
From: Marissa Solaun solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: Ios 7 urgent questions


A few questions for those with iOS 7


One when using voice over in the mail app and double tapping on the to field 
if you type a letter in the to field  you are presented with the most 
recently contacted individuals that begin with that letter. Question is: 
how does one get to the next contact that begins with that letter for 
example, if I am typing the letter A and the first contact name is Alex and 
you want to get to the next contact that begins with the letter A how do you 
do it with voiceover using ios 7?


Two what are containers?

3. Why is it that you have to set up Gmail as an exchange account in order 
to be able to delete emails, if you set it up using Gmail itself in the mail 
app you're forced to archived them and then delete them why is this?


Four. Am I to understand now that voice over will not repeat what Siri says, 
is this a new feature?


5 any ideas, as to how to improve battery life with iOS 7

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Re: to update or not to update that is the question!

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well that's up to you really isn't it.


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  Subject: to update or not to update that is the question!


  hi i just got a notice on my 4s to update to 7, should i or should i not 
update it?

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Re: Notification Centre

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If its the control centre you want then you three finger flick up.


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- Original Message - 
From: Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: Notification Centre



Sorry,
it is the control centre that I wanted.
I thought you had to touch at the bottom of the screen and then swipe 
down.

Thanks again.
Max.

On 20/09/2013, at 10:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Are you trying to get to the Notification Center or the Control Center? 
Touch the top of your screen to hear the time and then use a three finger 
swipe down to get to the Notification center and a three finger swipe up 
to get to the Control Center.


On 09/19/2013 06:43 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi,
is there more than one way to get to the Notification Centre?
I can only get the Three finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen 
to work on very few occasions.

Thanks.
Max.



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Re: to update or not to update that is the question!

[Sandra Heaton]

Its not that bad honest!  it won't belong before another update will come along 
to fix all the bugs.  I'm sure you will be fine.for 


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  From: Fred Olver 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: to update or not to update that is the question!


  Yes, go ahead, just take your time.
  Fred Olver 



  Author of Dealing with Vision Loss  



  have a look it just makes sense. 

  http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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Subject: to update or not to update that is the question!


hi i just got a notice on my 4s to update to 7, should i or should i not 
update it?

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Re: anyone using Karen as their voice?

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I have found this also but I can live with it.  Karen is the best voice that 
I have heard so far so I stick with her.

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From: May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com

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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: anyone using Karen as their voice?


Yes she is the Austreelian one and the one I also like. For whatever 
reason, not that it's a huge problem, just annoying, but in this version 
now she cuts off some of her words.


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On 2013-09-19, at 5:27 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

This is the Australian one isn't it?   hope this works out,  she's been 
my

standard and favourite so far.
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:33 AM
Subject: anyone using Karen as their voice?


Hmm, ok another question. If anyone is using Karen as their voice do you
notice that she now cuts off what she is saying for some words? Is there 
a

way to fix this or a voice that works better?

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Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping

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Yes it does I have noticed that as well.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping


I can also reproduce this.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, rafal bluewings1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a problem with vo it's strange but vo jumps items when i flicking.
- Original Message - From: Mike Reiser mike.rei...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Voice over jumps around when swiping




Twitter michaelsreiser

Skype michael-rei...@comcast.net

Facebook mikereiser08@gmail.netSent from my iPhone hello all,
I noticed that in iOS 7, when I swipe around on the screen, voiceover 
seems to skip items. It also seems to be much more sensitive than before. 
Is there a new method that I need to know about when flicking around for 
the screen? This is on an iPhone 4S. Thanks,

Mike

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Re: My music won't play in iOS7

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi,

My music is playing fine!  I asked siri to shuffle my music and she did that 
for me and it played.  I asked for the music to pause and siri did this for 
me as well.


Just thought I would let you guys no that maybe that's something you could 
try?



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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: My music won't play in iOS7


I can confirm that I have exactly the same problem. To add a little bit to 
the description no, my music is all stored in the cloud and iTunes match is 
enabled. Thank you.


Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com 
wrote:


This is the craziest problem yet.

I open the music app and tap playlists. After choosing the playlist I
want to hear I tap shuffle. The screen changes to show the song it
thinks it's playing but no sound at all. The track position shows 0of
whatever, but even if I move it to the middle of the song I still
can't get the music to play. The volume on the lower left of the
screen shows 70%. What the heck am I doing wrong?

Thanks

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Re: just wondering if you are able to turn off the phone's pass coad feature on the lock screen if you have chosen to use a pass coad but now want to turn this off?

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi,

Yes you can!  you need to go to settings and scroll till you find pass code and 
go in there and you can turn it off.  I made the mistake today by putting a 
passcode in but then I found it to be a nuisance every time I unlocked my 
phone!  so I just turned it off.


Sandra 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:32 PM
  Subject: just wondering if you are able to turn off the phone's pass coad 
feature on the lock screen if you have chosen to use a pass coad but now want 
to turn this off?


  Hi all. after upgrading to ios 7 I chose to use a passcoad to enter the lock 
screen. now though I am finding this kind of anoying to enter my passcoad to un 
lock the screen every time. I am just wondering if this is a feature you can 
tern off? or is it something that you need to do now that you have chosen to 
use it? many thanks. from Mich.

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Thanks.

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi All,

thanks for those of you who responded to the ear piece question.  I haven't 
quite decided which of these I will go for just yet.  

cheers.
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Re: ear pieces.

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi,

thanks a lot but having gone to the link which you suggested and reading 
what you had to say about it I think I will pass on those but thank you 
anyway.


Its always  good to hear what others think.  You sound a little disappointed 
with yours.  I just can't seem to find one that I am really comfortable 
with.  I only have very small ears and most of these pieces don't fit me 
very well and plus!  I don't like things that go inside my  ears.


Thank you though for taking the time.

cheers.


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From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: ear pieces.


Hi Sandra and anyone else interested in this topic, the plantronics M50 
and the Samsung HM1700 are both good and both of which I've talked about 
on this list, I've provided the link to the message below.


http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/msg47380.html

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On 9/16/2013 12:52 PM, Sandra Heaton wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know of a single ear piece that is suitable for an iphone
4S  all I want it for is to receive calls and text messages.  Is it
possible also to get a wireless one so I don't have wires dangling
everywhere.  Plus one that just loops over the ear.
If anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful to hear them.
cheers   and thank you.
Sandra
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ear pieces.

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of a single ear piece that is suitable for an iphone 4S  all I 
want it for is to receive calls and text messages.  Is it possible also to get 
a wireless one so I don't have wires dangling everywhere.  Plus one that just 
loops over the ear.

If anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful to hear them. 

cheers   and thank you.
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Re: Aftershokz headphones.

[Sandra Heaton]

Thanks Andy,

Its great to hear from you and I guess you are right.  Thanks for your input.

Nice of you


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  From: Andy Baracco 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 2:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Aftershokz headphones.


  They would only work if Humanware has a driver, and I don’t think they do.
  Andy

  From: Sandra Heaton 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:18 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Aftershokz headphones.
  Hi All,

  Can anyone please tell me if aftershokz headphones via Bluetooth will they 
work with a trekker breeze?and which model.  I have got some but only to 
find to my disappointment that  I can't answer calls with the ones I have 
purchased.

  All suggestions and answers would be welcome thank you.
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Aftershokz headphones.

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi All,

Can anyone please tell me if aftershokz headphones via Bluetooth will they work 
with a trekker breeze?and which model.  I have got some but only to find to 
my disappointment that  I can't answer calls with the ones I have purchased.

All suggestions and answers would be welcome thank you.
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Re: Aftershokz headphones.

[Sandra Heaton]

Lisa,

Thank you for your reply.  Its just as I thought.  I just thought I would 
just ask the question anyway.


I think you are right in saying that about Bluetooth I would agree with you.

I don't think I would want to mess about with two headsets well not at the 
same time anyway.  So I guess I will just stick with my purchase and just 
use it for my trekker breeze.  I won't go anywhere without it at the moment, 
I am having to use a long cane at the moment as I am still waiting for a new 
guide dog.  Heaven knows when that is likely  to be.


sorry I know I have gone off track just a little.

But thanks for your input.


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From: Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Aftershokz headphones.


Sandra, as far as I know, the Trekker Breeze doesn't have the capability 
to send/receive any kind of Bluetooth signal unless you're talking about 
the older version that ran on a PDA, and in that case, I have no clue if 
the Aftershokx would work.  I know you couldn't hear your phone and the 
Breeze at the same time unless you could pair them both and switch between 
them seamlessly, and let's face it, Bluetooth isn't that reliable enough 
of the time, at least not for me.


You could use the wired version of the Aftershokz with your Breeze because 
they use a regular stereo headphone jack so fit into the breeze where the 
external speaker would go.


Then you could use another Bluetooth headset with your phone along with 
your Aftershokx.  You'd have to deal with two different headsets, though 
because I don't think you'd like having to wear both the Aftershokx 
Bluetooth headset and the wired Aftershokx headset because they both fit 
the same way, which is why I'd suggest a single earhook Bluetooth speaker 
for the phone portion of the set up.


I have a Breeze and I use it still even with my iPhone because of the same 
issues.  I can use the Bluetooth headset, but then I need to be listening 
for two different audio sources in addition to my surroundings, so I feel 
a bit limited as to when and where I can use them both safely.


Lisa



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paycheck!

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- Original Message - 
From: Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:18 PM
Subject: Aftershokz headphones.



Hi All,

Can anyone please tell me if aftershokz headphones via Bluetooth will 
they work with a trekker breeze?and which model.  I have got some but 
only to find to my disappointment that  I can't answer calls with the 
ones I have purchased.


All suggestions and answers would be welcome thank you.
Sandra
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Re: how to get to accessibility on ipad

[Sandra E. Finley]

Frank, in VoiceOver in Settings it is possible to choose Tripple Click Home for 
one of several functions; this is not a factory default. 


Sandy
Sent from my iPad

On Aug 20, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 don't understand, why can't u just hit the home button 3 times?
 that should turn it on.
 no need to go threw all those other steps
 Hank
 
 On 8/20/2013 5:47 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 I would assume this would work the same way it does on the iPhone. Try
 just swiping right until you get to the accessibility button. Also, try
 a four finger tap at the bottom of the screen to take you to the last
 item in the list.
 
 On 08/20/2013 06:19 PM, Pinky wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a new ipad and I can go to settings,then general then I go down
 to the bottom of the screen on the right side and I can not get the
 column to move up so I can get to accessibility.  I have gotten the row
 to move up at times but have not had good luck getting it to move up.  I
 have put my one finger on the screen and moved it up but nothing
 happens. Can some one give me directions on how to get the screen to
 mover up to I can get to accessibility button. I want to go into
 accessibility so I can set my rotor choices and other settings.  I have
 made some changes in accessibility today but can not get to the
 accessibility button as it will not move up.  The last thing I can hear
 at the bottom of the row is date and time button then just under that it
 the keyboard button. I hope this all make sense.
 I have also connected my ipad to my pc but how do I get to the settings
 so I can make the changes. I would appreciate if someone could give me
 step by step instructions on how to do this using itunes.
 Thanks for all the assistance.
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iPad questions

[Sandra E. Finley]

I have many questions regarding my iPad.  and how it differs from my iPhone . I 
will number them in case some of you can answer 1 or 2.


1. What is thumbnail whip?
2. What is the sidebar, as in double tap to hide the side bar? 


3. The screen seems really sensitive; it seems that programs barely open when 
Ii am gliding my finger over them. Not so with my phone.

4.  I am trying to put some apps into folders. Whenn Ii attempt to pput one app 
on top of another for this purpose it someties does not work. Why?

 
 5. Is there a rotor or some equivalent gesture for the same settings? 
On that subject, how can I get touch typing?

Enough for now!
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Re: links on facebook

[Sandra Heaton]

don't worry, I am facing the same problem I haven't a clue what's going on. 
Everything was fine till I did the update the other day.



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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:22 PM
Subject: links on facebook


i'm using the native fb app on iphone, when someone shared a link or 
something, i can't open it on iphone, an i missing something?


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faculty of musical education
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Re: Exciting news trying Braille with iOs

[Sandra Heaton]

Yes Chris so do I!  I would love a Braille display for my iphone but can't 
really afford one.


Good to know that you are hoping to try one though.


Sandra
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Exciting news trying Braille with iOs



chris this is such exciting news  i hope you get to try it


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On 08/07/2013 12:14, Chris H wrote:

Good afternoon all.
All being well, at the end of August a friend is coming down to stay at
my apartment. He is hoping to bring his Braille display, the Focus 40
Blue. He is happy to let me try it with my iPhone so I can see what all
the fuss is about Braille and iOs devices. I can't wait!
Keep you posted.



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Re: Facebook app frustrations

[Sandra Heaton]

Hello,

I also do this and it does take you back to the main menu.


Sandra
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- Original Message - 
From: Nasreen Bhutta nasreenbhu...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook app frustrations



Hello Christine,
I too feel your  frustration with the  Face Book app. Unfortunately, I 
don't have the answers to all your questions, but one thing  I have 
noticed is with the  Back Button in Notifications, your not imagining it, 
Yes it is missing.
I had  my Daughter take a look at the screen, just incase the button might 
have been moved to a newer location on the screen, I think lately,  the 
App might have been updated and the Back button is  no longer there.
So, what I  found  does  work, is  to  double tap on the Notification 
Heading  and that shouldprompt you out of that screen and  allow  you 
access to the main screen again.
Try this, it should  work,  I know I was  stuck in that one screen myself, 
and it was a pain to get out.

Hope  this   helps.
Take care.







-Original Message- 
From: Christine Grassman

Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook app frustrations

All righty, fellow Facebook folks: I am trying to figure out why, and more 
importantly, if there is a workaround for the following issues:
1. Liking something sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. (I find this 
is true both on the phone and on my Mac.)
2. When I want to see who liked a post, sometimes it will show me, and 
other times it will go to the one page of the last person to like. There 
does not seem to be any rhyme or reason to this.
3. When I check my notifications, on the phone, there does not seem to be 
a back button; am I missing something?
4. Sometimes when I want to like on someone's page because of something 
shared, I can only like the shared link on its original page, not on my 
friend's page.
5. There are times when I click on a friend's page to read further 
something posted, and the app does nothing at all.
6. Sometimes I cannot get to the posted link, or read the comments. (I 
realize some people's privacy settings might not permit me to see their 
comments, but it is unlikely that this is true of all of the people on the 
larger sites I am referring to.)



Any workarounds, explanations, and/or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Happy Father's Day to those to whom it applies.
Christine

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What's going on with the app Store?

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi All,

can anyone tell me what's going on with the app Store?  it told me I had 
updates 5 items so it said,  but when I go in to the app store, I can't find 
anything or voiceover is not recognising them.  Has anyone else got this 
problem?  

Sandra 
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