Re: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

[Lielle Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

Yes, I have this problem too.
I am not sure if it's possible to do something.
Siri gets worse from time to time.

‫בתאריך שבת, 11 בפבר׳ 2023 ב-17:28 מאת <‪sherrywells1...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬

> *Hello,*
>
>
>
> *I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  Ever since updating IOS, I
> frequently get an odd response when I ask Ciri to call someone in my
> contacts list.  I will say call person X & she will say what do you want to
> know about person X.  This may happen several times before I give up & open
> the contact to tap on the phone # to call them.  Even funnier, I have a
> sister-in-law named Mickie who is on my VIP contact list & is my ICE
> contact.  Today when I asked Ciri to call her I got a web site telling me
> who Mickey Mouse was.  This happened a couple of times.  I obviously have
> tried speaking very clearly to no avail.  It is not the end of the world to
> have to open the contacts to make a call but I’d rather have the
> convenience of just saying call person.  Is anyone else having this
> problem?*
>
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Sherry Wells*
>
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RE: Testing old list address

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi

I’m not sure why this old version of the list has started back up

But a few weeks back Mark and cara did go through trying to migrate everyone 
from the old list to the new one,

The old account was for some reason locked down,

And at the time the best solution was the new list.

So if you have questions,

Take the time to unsubscribe yourselves from the old,
And subscribe to the new.

Then life will go on as you need it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of B. J. 
Maynard
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Testing old list address

hi,

I do not remember seeing an announcement we were moving and the reason for it.  
I guess they migrated allthe old subscribers?  If not I will subscribe tothe 
new list form the given subscribe info.

Billy Maynard
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: Testing old list address

Well, hopefully Mark or Cara will chime in about this turn of events.

Did you use the 
vipone2+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
to subscribe to the new list?
Anyway, it would appear for the moment that either address will work…


Richard


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From: don.moore48 via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Testing old list address

Looks like it's back up?  I tried to sign up to the new list but after sending 
the replied list offer I saw nothing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 3:52 PM
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Nothing to see here.  Which also happens to be the title of a great book!


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RE: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

Then it sounds very much to me like hey siri isn't enabled on your watch,

I know when I got my s7 it wasn't setup to work I had to enable it.

 
So on the phone go in to the watch app 
Settings and look at the hey siri settings.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2022 1:03 pm
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Hello Simon,

What I am doing is this:

My Apple Watch is connected either to my iPhone or via wi-fi.

Connectivity is verified by checking for e-mail streaming audio among other 
things.

Whether in range of my iPhone or not I simply say “Hey Siri” followed by my 
request, such as what is the time.

On my iPhone I get a response to my query.

On my Apple Watch I obtain no response.

If I press and hold the Digital Crown on my Apple  Watch Siri responds as you 
would expect.

Even if I turn off my iPhone pressing the Digital Crown on my Apple Watch Siri 
responds to my speech whereas saying “Hey Siri” results in no response.

Having checked all settings I cannot see what I am doing wrong.  After all 
saying “Hey Siri” is not difficult to me and if my iPhone responds then it is 
perfectly reasonable, given that it supports it, my Apple Watch should respond 
too.



Malcolm Parfitt

> On 20 Jan 2022, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I use hey siri on my watch series 7 with watch os 8 fully up to date and 
> it's no problems at all.
> 
> So I can't see what you guys are doing that is causing you troubles.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> richardr_tur...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, 21 January 2022 7:54 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?
> 
> Welcome to WatchOS 8 something.
> It hasn't worked for a while on my Series 6 either.
> 
> Writing Apple Accessibility now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?
> 
> Having upgraded to an Apple Watch series 7 in December it was only when I was 
> some way from my iPhone 12 Pro Max that I discovered that Hey Siri was not 
> working on my watch.
> 
> I have checked all options but everything appears to be configured correctly.
> 
> The watch is running watchOS 8.3.
> 
> Siri works when the Digital Crown is pressed.
> 
> The watch has connectivity with wi-fi when out of range of my iPhone.
> 
> I remember that with iOS 15 there was an issue with Hey Siri when Voiceover 
> was used and wonder if a similar issue exists with the Apple Watch.
> 
> The watch was set up as a new device.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I use hey siri on my watch series 7 with watch os 8 fully up to date and it's 
no problems at all.

So I can't see what you guys are doing that is causing you troubles.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, 21 January 2022 7:54 am
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Subject: RE: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?

Welcome to WatchOS 8 something.
It hasn't worked for a while on my Series 6 either.

Writing Apple Accessibility now.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hey Siri on Apple Watch?

Having upgraded to an Apple Watch series 7 in December it was only when I was 
some way from my iPhone 12 Pro Max that I discovered that Hey Siri was not 
working on my watch.

I have checked all options but everything appears to be configured correctly.

The watch is running watchOS 8.3.

Siri works when the Digital Crown is pressed.

The watch has connectivity with wi-fi when out of range of my iPhone.

I remember that with iOS 15 there was an issue with Hey Siri when Voiceover was 
used and wonder if a similar issue exists with the Apple Watch.

The watch was set up as a new device.

Thanks.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Esther probably to late now but either way,
You will be fine,

I use a 12volt brick as well as an 18volt brick

It just depends on what gets picked up first when I need to charge.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 4:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone




Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

Yeah should be fine,

 Wattage is abit lower than I'd suggest but yes they should work,

 As someone else said the cable with the newer phones is a USB-C to lightening 
cable,
But if you have an 11 then you should with that have a charging brick with an 
18 to 25 volts / watts etc plug,
 The phones all still have lightening connectors 
It's jus that the newer charging bricks have USB C in them 

Mind you I still use my older charging bricks cables and wifi chargers 

So the older tech still works with newer devices.

 Hope this helps.
 And good luck with getting a new device.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 9:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

So, if I replace my 11, I can still use my 5W wireless chargers, just they 
would be slow? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple 
Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is 
the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones 
Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

But I still can't figure out what star light is?

I've had sight and starlight is twinkling bright points in a dark blue 
background 
And that background changes over night, from lighter to darker , then back to 
lighter blue,if the sky is clear,
If its cloudy then it's greyish 

So what colour is starlight?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 12:27 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

I'm glad she let us know her color. If I get a 13, I want Star Light. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

What, do they do a pink iPhone?

 

Crazy colours 

 

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

 

my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jan 19, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this 
is not a tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that 
brick with the larger phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Charging My New Phone







Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

What, do they do a pink iPhone?

Crazy colours

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jan 19, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this is not a 
tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that brick with 
the larger phone.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:28 AM
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Subject: Charging My New Phone







Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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RE: Have you been locked out of your Microsoft Account? Consider reading this long message

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Richard,

I’ll put this in one simple word for you to think about.

“BullShit”!

I have 2 microsoft 365 exhhanged based email accounts,

The one I’m sending this fom to the list being one of them.

I am a member of 6 or 7 different groups.io mail lists,

And at no time have I had my Microsoft account locked due to email relating to 
any of my list memberships.


I have had groups.io block emails due to bouncing messages,
But that was groups.io not MS 365
And my personal mail still goes in and out as required.

My personal thought on your situation would be to investigate what devices or 
products you have signing in to the Microsoft account
And go through each of them putting in a new password until you figure out 
which one has been trying to access your account

My thoughts on ms rangers,
Well they have come up with an answer that sounds interesting but baffles the 
user.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richardr_tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2022 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Have you been locked out of your Microsoft Account? Consider reading 
this long message

Greetings,
This is going to be a long message, so feel free to stop reading if this 
doesn't apply to you.  If you want to jump to the meat of the issue, search for 
two asterisks ** and you will get the main information without the background 
story.

On December 15th, my Microsoft Account was locked.  I was given the standard 
information about going to a link to unlock it by having a code texted to me, 
enter that code and supposedly then it would have verified that I was me and 
gotten the account unlocked.
However, as soon as I entered the code I got the message first, your account is 
now unlocked.  Moments later, it was locked again.
I tried to repeat the steps, only to be told I'd tried too many times and had 
to wait 24 hours.
I called Microsoft Accessibility, and they basically said the same thing.
I waited 28 hours, just in case, and the same thing happened.
I  waited another 25 or 26 hours and got the same thing.  so, this is three 
days without access to my OneDrive, etc.
I called again, and got the same answer.
On the 5th day,  I was rather stern without using any foul language, and 
insisted that they get me unnlocked because each time I only had one try at it, 
did everything correct, and was locked out again.
This guy actually took the time to walk through the steps and saw that yes, it 
wasn't working as it should.
He went to a different link with Microsoft and got me unlocked and said now, 
"this won't happen again, you are set."
Eight days later, I was locked out again.
I wrote someone I know personally that works for Microsoft and spelled out the 
situation and asked if there wasn't someone higher up I could talk with.  This 
was December 28th.  He was on vacation.
On January 31st I shut off my computer, and had already turned off my Microsoft 
email on my iPhone, so that on Monday, January 3rd, I could call them and 
assure them I had not tried at all for 3 days, and didn't turn on my computer 
until I had them on the phone ready to connect with Quick Assist so they could 
see first hand how it blows out on the first attempt to unlock.
After getting it unlocked with the nice ladies help, I strongly insisted I talk 
with a supervisor about this whole process.  I was first told there were no 
supervisors ... but I said there had to be someone to handle customer 
complaints ... and after 40 minutes of being put on hold while she looked into 
who I could talk with, and her saying it is probably the groups I belong to 
that are triggering the spam warnings/suspicious activity, she put me in touch 
with her supervisor... Note, she did have a supervisor.  He in fact, told me he 
was the one to give her the theory that the groups I belonged to were causing 
the problem.  More on that soon.
They got me unlocked again, but he theorized that it would be locked again 
because of the groups.
He did say he would put in a ticket to the developers about this situation 

So, at that point, I changed my groups subscriptions to a Gmail address rather 
than my Microsoft Account address.
I didn't like the way Gmail sorts things into the Inbox, and the "Important" 
box, so I created a new Comcast.net address, which I am now using for all my 
group subscriptions.

While some emails end up in the Junk folder, because I'm not using my Microsoft 
Account Email, it hasn't resulted in my Microsoft account being locked.

Back to my contact at Microsoft, I heard back from him later that day,  and 
gave him the update as to where things stood.
I requested access to someone higher up again to try and deal with this issue.
He forwarded my email to someone much higher up the chain than him.
Because that higher up person took this seriously, I was put in touch with two 
of their Microsoft 365 Office App Rangers.
I had a conference call and spent a lot of time going through the issues and 
explaining 

RE: A Question About How to Get VoiceOver to Read Notifications on Apple Watch 7

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi mark,

With the release of IOS 15 there were issues with notifications being spoken,
More I must say with to many notification alerts,

However on your watch is different to what I'm experiencing with my watch s7,

Could you if you haven't already checked 
Have something set to off in the watch notifications?

I'm picking though  thet you have checked such things.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2022 8:34 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question About How to Get VoiceOver to Read Notifications on Apple 
Watch 7

Hello All,

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
Both my phone and watch have their respective displays off; this is to say that 
I am not interacting with either of them.

2.
I receive a text message.  (Keep in mind that I do not know, at this point, 
that it is a text message but I receive hap tic feedback on my watch indicating 
that I have some kind of notification.)

3.
I raise my witch and tap the surface of the watch which immediately wakes up 
the display.  At this point, I can see some kind of an icon on the watch 
display but, as I move my finger across the display (or even single-finger tap 
the display), VoiceOver says absolutely nothing.

What am I missing, here?  What setting do I need to change in order to have VO 
read either the notification, itself, or at least, the type of notification I 
just received?  

Just so you know, if I single-finger, double-tap the display with the 
notification icon, the notification opens into its related app.

All replies, greatly appreciated.

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RE: Air Pods Pro Question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Try unpairing them by finding them in your Bluetooth and flick down to more 
then open that and go to forget this device,

Then once unpaired,

Try pairing them again.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2022 2:37 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Air Pods Pro Question

Yes I did both of the things you mentioned and it still doesn't work and I 
couldn't find a thing in settings with the air pods on bluetooth to reset.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Air Pods Pro Question

This happens to me once in a great while, and I either just take it out of my 
ear and put it back in or if that doesn’t work, I’ll drop it back in the case 
for a second and then push it back into my ear. Not sure if that’s your problem 
or not though.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air Pods Pro Question

I just got my Air Pods Pro and they were working fine but this morning I hear 
nothing in the left pod.  Any suggestions on how to bring it back?  Thanks.

Carla

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RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

[Simon A Fogarty]

HI Jannet,

Have you tried a three finger double tap on the screen to see if the speech has 
been turned off?

Or do a restart of your phone,
Probably the easiest way to do that is
Vol up, vol down and then power button and hold it for about 10 seconds,
It should hopefully do a restart for you.

And with luck you don’t ring them back
Or they may come around for coffee and doughnuts
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2022 11:04 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 911 Calling Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I was just sitting at my Computer, and I had my phone sitting on my Computer 
desk, and for some strange reason my phone started dialing 911 emergency.  911 
Emergency called me back 3 times, but I couldn’t answer the phone.  I used my 
Magic Jack phone to call 911 to let them know I am ok.  I tried to stop the 
Phone from calling, but I can’t hear Voiceover.  I pressed the volume button 
up, I tried 3 finger tapping to turn Voiceover back on, but I still can’t hear 
anything at all, except when I turn the phone off I can hear the sound when I 
usually turn off the Phone, or when I plug the charger in to the phone. I can’t 
get in touch with Siri either.  I  have an iPhone XR with the latest iOS.  Can 
someone please tell me what I might do to get Voiceover to start talking.

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Air Buds Question

[Simon A Fogarty]

The pros go in to the ear canal
 And the max’s go over the ear to surround it

Like what older style headphones were back in the day.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Friday, 14 January 2022 12:18 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air Buds Question

I just got the Amazon Alexa Air Buds and don't like them.  Their sound is too 
tinny and they don't hold a candle to the sound of the Apple products. So my 
question is what is the difference between the Airpod Pro and the Airpod Max 
other than size and price.  I'm thinking of getting the Pro and would 
appreciate any help anyone can give.

Carla

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RE: new app games

[Simon A Fogarty]

It's a link related to the bit coin game,

 It is actually 
"CTA Arrow" but it doesn't seem to point to anything of that name but the link 
if you read the app store email takes you to the game related to the bit coin 
game,

As stated in the  email itself.
 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richardr_tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2022 5:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new app games

It is probably a bad graphics label but calling Apple Accessibility and doing a 
screen share might answer if you have no one sighted around to look at your 
screen.




Richard
“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new app games

Hi Janet,

For fun I googled it and also looked in the app store. I found nothing with 
that name. Maybe it is a typo?

Stay safe and take care!
Debby


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Bell
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new app games

every week or so we get a list of new games in the app store. can someone tell 
me what "ta arrow" means please?  Janet

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RE: Facebook

[Simon A Fogarty]

Set your privacy settings to the highest level.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Sunday, 9 January 2022 3:27 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook

In Facebook, how do you hide your friends list from everyone?



On Jan 8, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Julian 
mailto:mrc1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Actually, the account may not have been hacked although, it doesn't hurt to go 
in there, assuming you can still login, and change your password to a stronger 
one. What is actually going on is that someone copied info from your profile 
page, including your picture, and access to your friends list to then send out 
friend request from a phony account they made posing as you. The best thing to 
do, is to hide your friends list from everyone, including your friends and 
family. Unfortunately, this is the only way I have found to stop these sorts of 
things from happening.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 8, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Wayne Scott 
mailto:waynedscot...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That means your account was hacked. If a lot of get those, you'll need to make 
a mew account. people
Wayne Scott



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What can you do if people tell you they got a friend request from you but it 
wasn’t from you? I would need detailed step by step  instructions. I already 
went in myself but couldn’t figure out where to go. . Thanks!

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RE: Question About Libre Freestyle 2 For A Friend

[Simon A Fogarty]

I'm still not 100% sure what is happening though.

 Can you get him to give us full information on what's happenng?

I get the phones not reading the sensors,
But what makes  him think this is the issue?

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Indeed he has! He has tried four different sensors, there is nothing else wrong 
with the phone, Apple people went over it and it is all OK.
He tried reinstalling the app twice, talked to the Libre people at least five 
times, and not a single thing helps!

He is very sad to go back to the regular needles...I

On 1/8/22, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> I use the libre freestyle system and I can't at this point say I'm 
> having any issues in any way
>
> Have they checked to ensure their sensor is still well set and hasn't 
> come detached from their arm or where ever they put it.
>
>  Is their phone functioning in all other ways,
>
>  Get your friend to try reading rhe sensor again and see what happens.
>
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>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I have a good friend who used the sensors with the Libre Freestyle 2 
> system for a good while and was very pleased with it.However, for no 
> apparent reason, it stopped working and nothing he has done so far has 
> helped. He talked to the company and they sent new sensors, but 
> nothing helped. Then he went to Apple as they suggested, but they 
> couldn't find anything wrong with the phone.
>
> Has anyone come across such a problem? Any suggestions or ideas would 
> be very very appreciated!
>
> Thanks and hope everyone stays safe!
>
> Tali
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RE: Facebook

[Simon A Fogarty]

I would recommend that you change your password for a start but it is most 
likely a spam attackmore than anything else.

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What can you do if people tell you they got a friend request from you but it 
wasn’t from you? I would need detailed step by step  instructions. I already 
went in myself but couldn’t figure out where to go. . Thanks!

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RE: Question About Libre Freestyle 2 For A Friend

[Simon A Fogarty]

I use the libre freestyle system and I can't at this point say I'm having any 
issues in any way 

Have they checked to ensure their sensor is still well set and hasn't come 
detached from their arm or where ever they put it.

 Is their phone functioning in all other ways,

 Get your friend to try reading rhe sensor again and see what happens.

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Sarnetzky
Sent: Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question About Libre Freestyle 2 For A Friend

Hi everyone.

I have a good friend who used the sensors with the Libre Freestyle 2 system for 
a good while and was very pleased with it.However, for no apparent reason, it 
stopped working and nothing he has done so far has helped. He talked to the 
company and they sent new sensors, but nothing helped. Then he went to Apple as 
they suggested, but they couldn't find anything wrong with the phone.

Has anyone come across such a problem? Any suggestions or ideas would be very 
very appreciated!

Thanks and hope everyone stays safe!

Tali

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RE: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[Simon A Fogarty]

Thanks for this,

I've been trying to get passed this issue for weeks.

This might just do it.

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Gardner
Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2022 7:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

I got around this issue with one of the methods Mike described earlier. Just to 
revisit: I opened the Alexa app and tapped the devices tab. The impassable 
screen appeared and I then turned off VO and tapped approx 3 quarters of an 
inch above the home button and when I turned VO back on I was past that 
annoying screen with the got it button that voiceover doesn't recognize.

Thanks Mike for this work-around.

Kim

On 1/7/22, rick.alf...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Don, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is a 
> button  that you have to tap to get past this screen which is totally 
> inaccessible with VoiceOver. I had to have my sighted wife tap on it 
> to get past it. You can’t help but wonder if Amazon does any 
> accessibility testing when making changes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 8:01 AM
> To: VIPhone google group 
> Subject: Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:
>
>
>
> Thanks very much.
>
>
>
> Donna I have an iPhone 8 so screen recognition is not an option.
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
> I did try that once  and it didn't work but of course I probably 
> didn't tap the exact spot.
>
>
>
> I will give it another shot.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/2022 6:34 AM, Don Breda wrote:
>
> Hi listers,
>
>
>
> I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa 
> app a long time ago.
>
>
>
> I found I was unable to do that.
>
>
>
> When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing 
> favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it 
> at all.
>
>
>
> This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.
>
>
>
> Has anyone found a way around this?
>
>
>
> I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website 
> doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
> Don
>
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RE: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Are you sure that the Bluetooth on your speaker is turned on?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2022 7:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers

When i go to the bluetooth app in my iphone's settings, it does't see my google 
speaker so i assumed josh was correct. 

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 7 Jan 2022, at 5:32 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> I'm not sure why Joshua says the Google Home doesn't work any more as a 
> Bluetooth speaker, I just paired my phone with my Google Home speaker and had 
> no issues except for Voiceover volume fluctuating a bit when I designated the 
> device type as speaker which caused Voiceover to revert back to the phone 
> with other audio (Audible book, music etc.) playing on the speaker.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> CJ & AA MAY
> Sent: January 7, 2022 3:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers
> 
> What A shame. In general, I'm very happy with our Google Home Speaker.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: 07 January 2022 10:13
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers
> 
> The google home doesn't work any more with bluetooth.  I bought myself a 
> fourth generation echo and it works so much better with bluetooth.
> I can listen to audible books from the audible app on my phone, and things 
> like audio dramas sound very good through my echo.  The problems the google 
> home has with bluetooth, is one reason why I bought my fourth generation 
> echo.  I also got a great deal on it.  It was originally $100 and I got it 
> for $60.  The sound on my echo is great as well.
> 
>> On 1/7/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>> I'm glad this topic has come up. I have a Google Home, which is 
>> similar to the Amazon Alexa, and I thought I might be able to play my 
>> music and Audible books using our Google Home via blue tooth, but the 
>> speaker isn't showing up on the options in the Blue Tooth app. Does 
>> this mean I can't use the speaker in this way?
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: 07 January 2022 01:38
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers
>> 
>> Yeah it's great,
>> 
>> Sync my books or music to it and siri pretty much does what I ask
>> 
>> Great at night for listening to audio books I can get siri to set a 
>> sleep timer and it shuts down automagically
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Friday, 7 January 2022 12:44 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers
>> 
>> While you are at the subject of bluetooth speakers, have any of you 
>> used the apple home pod mini? What do you think of it, and how does 
>> it compare to other bluetooth speakers?
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rani,
>>> 
>>> Find your speakers in Bluetooth Settings. flick up or down until you 
>>> get to More Info, and double-tap. There should be an item called Device 
>>> Type.
>>> Select that, and then choose Speaker. After that, at least most of 
>>> the time, VoiceOVer should come out of your phone, while music comes 
>>> out of the speaker.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 3:46 PM, Rami Ahmad  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi, i want to get a bluetooth speaker, that enables me to send all 
>>>> iphone sounds to it while still listening to voiceover speech 
>>>> through the iphone speakers. There is a rotor item called ′audio 
>>>> distination′ that controls where voiceover speech will be heard, 
>>>> but i can't find this option when i connect my trebet xSound 
>>>> bluetooth speaker. My friend has a sony speaker and gets this rotor 
>>>> option when he connects it, so what are the speakers that support 
>>>> this functionality? Is there a certain protocol that i should look 
>>>> for when buying a speaker so that i can get this feature of separating 
>>>> audio?
>>>> Your he

RE: question about VIB in inbox

[Simon A Fogarty]

You have written VIB,
Do you mean VIP for very important person,
Which is like an alert system that when you put email addresses of those that 
are important to you in there,
Their mail flicks up an alert to let you know it arrived unlike other emails.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2022 7:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about VIB in inbox

Hi

Can someone explain to me how to use the VIB IN the iphone inbox please?
I’m using Iphone se first generation.
Thanks in advance

Anthony
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RE: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it's great,

 Sync my books or music to it and siri pretty much does what I ask 

Great at night for listening to audio books I can get siri to set a sleep timer 
and it shuts down automagically 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, 7 January 2022 12:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover speech and bluetooth speakers

While you are at the subject of bluetooth speakers, have any of you used the 
apple home pod mini? What do you think of it, and how does it compare to other 
bluetooth speakers?
Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rani,
> 
> Find your speakers in Bluetooth Settings. flick up or down until you get to 
> More Info, and double-tap. There should be an item called Device Type. Select 
> that, and then choose Speaker. After that, at least most of the time, 
> VoiceOVer should come out of your phone, while music comes out of the speaker.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 3:46 PM, Rami Ahmad  wrote:
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>> hi, i want to get a bluetooth speaker, that enables me to send all iphone 
>> sounds to it while still listening to voiceover speech through the iphone 
>> speakers. There is a rotor item called ′audio distination′ that controls 
>> where voiceover speech will be heard, but i can't find this option when i 
>> connect my trebet xSound bluetooth speaker. My friend has a sony speaker and 
>> gets this rotor option when he connects it, so what are the speakers that 
>> support this functionality? Is there a certain protocol that i should look 
>> for when buying a speaker so that i can get this feature of separating 
>> audio? 
>> Your help will be appreciated. 
>> 
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RE: Temperature Mispronunciation

[Simon A Fogarty]

I was wondering if that was the other way around,

Isn’t 1 degree c close to 31 degree f

Either way,
Canada in winter sounds pretty fresh to me,
So I’ll stay here in NZ,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 7 January 2022 9:13 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Temperature Mispronunciation

Are you using metric or imperial measurements?
I use a different weather app here in British Columbia, Canada, but I just 
opened the stock Weather app and temperatures are being read correctly, I use 
the SIRI Voice 4 United States.
I sure hope you do mean 1 degree Fahrenheit when you say you get extremely cold 
temperatures, that would be about -16 or -17 Celsius and where I live we have 
barely seen anything that warm in 4 weeks; on Christmas morning it was -36 
Celsius here which is -33 Fahrenheit and factoring in wind chill we often had 
it below -40. By the way, for those who don't know, at -40 Celsius and 
Fahrenheit are the same.
I'm glad I don't live in Northeastern BC where the rest of my family is because 
there it went down to -48 Celsius or -54 Fahrenheit and that is actual 
temperature without wind chill.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: January 6, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Temperature Mispronunciation

Considering where I live in the extremely cold temperatures that we get here, 
most of you would never experience this bug.

However, when I open the weather app on my iPhone 8 and the temperature is at 
1° it is red as "X 31°."

To complicate matters further, this does not happen with the Alex voice. 
However, I prefer to use Sarah (enhanced), when I switched to Susan and Ava 
this also occurred.  I wonder if anyone from Apple monitors this email list? If 
not, I suppose I should report this bug.


  
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RE: Face ID Revisited

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fazzel,

 It's not really two places,
But there is an option in the face id setup section of settings,

That will allow you to setup an alternate or secondary face id option,


For situation like you might share your phone with a wife or partner and they 
might want a face id on there also.

I personally think you're fine with what you have 
So get use to what's working and with your pin code you should be fine,
No need to have the other face id setup .

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:27 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

Thanks much, Reggie.
What do you mean by having Face ID @ two places?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited

Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two 
places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might 
be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up 
with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up 
from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if 
you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. 
When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. 
Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% 
of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID 
pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the 
position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know 
that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 
and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This 
probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. 
However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the 
time.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:

Hi, Sieghard.
Thanks much!
On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the 
Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the 
level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the 
Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty 
percent of the time now.
I have also learned the required gesture.
Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so 
much helpful.
I love this group.
Thanks again!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id 
first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and 
while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of 
simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a 
good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I 
dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could 
not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, 
tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to 
see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he 
couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, 
exactly why, I have no idea. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's 
fine.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building 
one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or 
not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

RE: Face ID Revisited

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Fazzel,

Well done,

And great work keeping up with it,

 And yeah this is a good group.

 Have a great day.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2022 3:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

Hi, Sieghard.
Thanks much!
On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the 
Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the 
level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the 
Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty 
percent of the time now.
I have also learned the required gesture.
Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so 
much helpful.
I love this group.
Thanks again!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id 
first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and 
while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of 
simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a 
good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I 
dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could 
not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, 
tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to 
see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he 
couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, 
exactly why, I have no idea. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's 
fine.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building 
one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or 
not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lynn Schneider
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited

Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I 
have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face 
ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no 
problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my 
face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone 
through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, 
which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons 
I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 
days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are 
doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite 
frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the 
face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without 
sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is 
very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to 
learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app 
switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know 
that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this 
bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t 
want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to 
authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us 
both patience and good luck. LOL.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:



 

Hi Group.

I am having problem 

RE: OT time zone difference

[Simon A Fogarty]

I did and she gave me some bloody here's what it said on the internet.

 I know it's central time zone.
But was trying to narrow it down as much as possible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2022 7:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: OT time zone difference

Why don't you just ask SIRI "What is the time in Manitoba"?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: January 4, 2022 10:05 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: OT time zone difference


Hi folks,

I know a few people on  here are located in Canada and thought you might be 
able to give me the correct info.

I'm trying to help a lady with a computer issue and she's based in Manitoba 
Which I believe is in the Canadian central time zone,

 Can someone tell me what that is in the way of + or minus from the date line?
Currently nz is +13 hours ahead and if I read This correctly that puts Manitoba 
Somewhere in the area of 18 hours behind us,

So 6 pm nz would be midnight Manitoba the morning before!

Thanks for any help folks can give.

Simon f

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RE: OT time zone difference

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, so Manitoba is the province?

I thought it was a city,

Winapeg is I know a city,
 And I forgot about the world clock,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2022 7:16 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: OT time zone difference

Or open the clock app and add Manitoba's capital, Winnipeg, to your World Clock 
entries.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: January 4, 2022 10:05 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: OT time zone difference


Hi folks,

I know a few people on  here are located in Canada and thought you might be 
able to give me the correct info.

I'm trying to help a lady with a computer issue and she's based in Manitoba 
Which I believe is in the Canadian central time zone,

 Can someone tell me what that is in the way of + or minus from the date line?
Currently nz is +13 hours ahead and if I read This correctly that puts Manitoba 
Somewhere in the area of 18 hours behind us,

So 6 pm nz would be midnight Manitoba the morning before!

Thanks for any help folks can give.

Simon f

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OT time zone difference

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi folks,

I know a few people on  here are located in Canada and thought you might be 
able to give me the correct info.

I'm trying to help a lady with a computer issue and she's based in Manitoba
Which I believe is in the Canadian central time zone,

 Can someone tell me what that is in the way of + or minus from the date line?
Currently nz is +13 hours ahead and if I read 
This correctly that puts Manitoba
Somewhere in the area of 18 hours behind us,

So 6 pm nz would be midnight Manitoba the morning before!

Thanks for any help folks can give.

Simon f

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RE: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver saying "stop" when I finish recording

[Simon A Fogarty]

Carolyn,

Why are you skinning cats?

That’s kind of mean you know,
Tey need their fur to keep warm in winter.

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Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2022 4:26 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver 
saying "stop" when I finish recording

Good that there is more than one way to skin a cat. I did not think that 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids would work like a headset. 

If I did mine from the phone, would I enter my AT passcode? 

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Holly
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Subject: Re: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver 
saying "stop" when I finish recording

Carolyn:

I don't have a headset, but tried it using my blue tooth enabled hearing aids 
and still got the 'stop' at the beginning.

The only way I was able to get around it was to use remote access from my 
landline phone to my voicemail and change the greeting that way. 

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RE: external storage for iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Apologies,
Miss read that,

Not sure if the situation would work now 
But there is a lightening to SD card reader for the iPHone  that you could try,
But I'm not sure if it would let you copy and paste  from it to drop box,

But would be worth having a look in to.

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Sent: Tuesday, 4 January 2022 9:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: external storage for iPhone

Hi. She already has drop box on her phone. She is wondering how to get the 
material in to drop box as she no longer has access to a computer.

Chris Judge


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Fogarty
Sent: January 3, 2022 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: external storage for iPhone

Yeah it's an app for the iPhone called dropbox,

 And will do what you want.

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Sent: Tuesday, 4 January 2022 12:12 pm
To: IPhone List 
Subject: external storage for iPhone

Hello iPhone Listers,

Forgive me if I'm running over old territory. I have some files on an SD card 
recorded on my Victor Stream that I'd like to get stored in my Dropbox folder. 
But my old Windows computer has, shall we say given up the ghost. I have 
Dropbox as a readily accessible APP on my iPhone. Is there a device you might 
recommend to attach to my iPhone from which I could send files to my dropbox. 
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
 

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver saying "stop" when I finish recording

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi cathy,

I'd tell your sister to keep her nose out of it,

It's your phone and your greeting,

If someone hears voiceover at the end of the greeting,
Who really cares.


Just go with it 
Cheers,


Simon f

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Subject: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver 
saying "stop" when I finish recording

My sighted sister is actually trying to pick a fight with me over this. How can 
I record a voicemail greeting on my iPhone 8 and not have VoiceOver say "stop" 
when I finish recording? For the sake of my sanity, please help. Thank you.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

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RE: external storage for iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it's an app for the iPhone called dropbox,

 And will do what you want.

-Original Message-
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Steele
Sent: Tuesday, 4 January 2022 12:12 pm
To: IPhone List 
Subject: external storage for iPhone

Hello iPhone Listers,

Forgive me if I'm running over old territory. I have some files on an SD card 
recorded on my Victor Stream that I'd like to get stored in my Dropbox folder. 
But my old Windows computer has, shall we say given up the ghost. I have 
Dropbox as a readily accessible APP on my iPhone. Is there a device you might 
recommend to attach to my iPhone from which I could send files to my dropbox. 
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
 

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have a look at the bose noise cancelling headphones.

The qc45 or the new ones which are something 700

And they are a lot cheaper than the apple max things.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

So are there some comparable options that wouldn’t be a complete waste of money?

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Face ID Revisited

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fassle,

Just wondering if you have voiceover on when you are trying to setup face id?

My phone the 13 pro max and the earlier 11 pro max let me know with voiceover 
when my face was out of alignment with the camera

So if you listen to the voiceover prompts aas you setup face id
It should let you kno what you have to do  as you go through the process.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2022 7:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited

Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else?
Thanks!
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited

Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too 
far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have 
attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from 
your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have 
trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s 
just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get 
used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then 
you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. 
Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone!
Reggie Alvarado

On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. 
mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Group.
I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12.
I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done 
Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too.
I am unable to unlock phone with face id.
Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated.
Thanks!
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

I did this when I got my series 7 and found the issue still existed 

 It was there on my apple watch series 4 with watch os 7 as well,
So it doesn't look like it's on the big issues list.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 7:39 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

The thing I would do for sure, is let Apple know that there is an issue with 
this and it will take more than one person telling them this to get them to 
look in to it.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be great 
in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2


Yeah it's an issue with the current watch os version,

So if you get to the right end of the page and then flick down if you're on 
page 3 etc,

And hold your finger at that page 2 or 1 junction point,
For a second or so it should kind of jump in to the page / level you want,

But the one I've started doing is using hey siri to pause or end my workouts
As it's easier to do with this touch screen issue,
Even though now I've figured out the way around the touch screen troubles.

Hey siri pause workout
And hey siri restart workout
Work fine,
 Not everyone likes it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
Byrne
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

I can move from screen to screen, but the move doesn't stay.  Screen
2 becomes screen 3 when I flick left for the information that should be 
there.  Instead, it says 'more', and tapping on 'more' doesn't do anything.
At 06:58 PM 12/30/2021, you wrote:
>Does a two finger flick left and right move you between the three pages
>of the workout screen? Also, at the bottom of the screen there should
>be a control that you can flick up or down to move from screen to
>screen.
>
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>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 6:38 PM
>To: viPhone list 
>Subject: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2
>
>On my watch since the latest update I can't get to the information on
>the second workout screen.  It says screen 2, and when I flick it just
>says 'more', or 'screen 3'.  Our trainer wants heart rate numbers which
>used to live on screen 2, but they are no longer there.
>
>Anyone know a good way to get at the screen with workout time,
>calories, and heart rate?
>
>Thx,
>
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RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

On the screen that comes up after you select your country
The first option should say accessibility
But on that same page should be the maunual and quick setup,

Select the quick setup.

And listen to the prompts for what you need to do step by step.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:22 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Where should I look for quick setup? Is it in accessibility?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi Fassle,

Hey the only thing you need a cable for now with your iPhone is to charge it 
from a mains power supply

You don’t need it to setup or activate your phone like you use to.

When you have voiceover running on the new device,

Just follow the prompts and it will tell you what you need to know.

It’s pretty easy,
You shouldn’t have any issues with it.

The quick setup option is on I think the forth screen after you have voiceover 
running,
So the first being choose your language
Then your country,
And then it’s a screen with options for accessibility or the quick setup / 
manual setup,

Good luck and you should have all the answers you need on this list,

And once you have set the phone up,
You will have the answers to share.

sf

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:01 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Thanks much, Simon.
Actually, the girl in the store started the phone to complete the paperwork 
process and she asked me whether I want to transfer data? I said, don’t worry 
about it, I’d take care of it.
When I came home, I could not connect it with iTune because I did not have the 
correct plug to connect the phone to the computer.
Secondly, I could not start Voiceover because in the store, the girl asked me 
to start accessibility, I thought she was asking about Voiceover.
So, Voiceover was not there. A sighted friend started voiceover.
Now I do not have those option of setting up the phone.
How can I transfer the data now?
I have paid iCloud, can it help?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi Fassle,

Yeah at the start of the phone set up,

It will ask you if you wish to do the quick setup or manual,

If you choose the quick then it will give you prompts as to what to do,

That’s the way I’ve setup my last 4 phones.
It’s a feature that has been in the system since IOS 11

Just follow the promptes the first of which is to hold the camera of one phone 
over the symbol of the other


And listen to what it says.

Good luck and I hope you get it working
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi.
I always set up my new iPhone with iTune, I, however, did not do it with my 
iPhone12 because I did not have proper adapter to connect the device to my 
Windows desktop.
I heard that we can transfer data from phone-to-phone by putting them 
side-by-side, is this true?
If yes, how can it be done, please?
Thanks!
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RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it's an issue with the current watch os version,

So if you get to the right end of the page and then flick down if you're on 
page 3 etc,

And hold your finger at that page 2 or 1 junction point,
For a second or so it should kind of jump in to the page / level you want,

But the one I've started doing is using hey siri to pause or end my workouts 
As it's easier to do with this touch screen issue,
Even though now I've figured out the way around the touch screen troubles.

Hey siri pause workout 
And hey siri restart workout 
Work fine,
 Not everyone likes it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2

I can move from screen to screen, but the move doesn't stay.  Screen
2 becomes screen 3 when I flick left for the information that should be there.  
Instead, it says 'more', and tapping on 'more' doesn't do anything.
At 06:58 PM 12/30/2021, you wrote:
>Does a two finger flick left and right move you between the three pages 
>of the workout screen? Also, at the bottom of the screen there should 
>be a control that you can flick up or down to move from screen to 
>screen.
>
>--
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>Chaltain at Outlook
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 6:38 PM
>To: viPhone list 
>Subject: Watch: can't get to the info on screen 2
>
>On my watch since the latest update I can't get to the information on 
>the second workout screen.  It says screen 2, and when I flick it just 
>says 'more', or 'screen 3'.  Our trainer wants heart rate numbers which 
>used to live on screen 2, but they are no longer there.
>
>Anyone know a good way to get at the screen with workout time, 
>calories, and heart rate?
>
>Thx,
>
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RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fassle,

Hey the only thing you need a cable for now with your iPhone is to charge it 
from a mains power supply

You don’t need it to setup or activate your phone like you use to.

When you have voiceover running on the new device,

Just follow the prompts and it will tell you what you need to know.

It’s pretty easy,
You shouldn’t have any issues with it.

The quick setup option is on I think the forth screen after you have voiceover 
running,
So the first being choose your language
Then your country,
And then it’s a screen with options for accessibility or the quick setup / 
manual setup,

Good luck and you should have all the answers you need on this list,

And once you have set the phone up,
You will have the answers to share.

sf

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 3:01 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Thanks much, Simon.
Actually, the girl in the store started the phone to complete the paperwork 
process and she asked me whether I want to transfer data? I said, don’t worry 
about it, I’d take care of it.
When I came home, I could not connect it with iTune because I did not have the 
correct plug to connect the phone to the computer.
Secondly, I could not start Voiceover because in the store, the girl asked me 
to start accessibility, I thought she was asking about Voiceover.
So, Voiceover was not there. A sighted friend started voiceover.
Now I do not have those option of setting up the phone.
How can I transfer the data now?
I have paid iCloud, can it help?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi Fassle,

Yeah at the start of the phone set up,

It will ask you if you wish to do the quick setup or manual,

If you choose the quick then it will give you prompts as to what to do,

That’s the way I’ve setup my last 4 phones.
It’s a feature that has been in the system since IOS 11

Just follow the promptes the first of which is to hold the camera of one phone 
over the symbol of the other


And listen to what it says.

Good luck and I hope you get it working
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi.
I always set up my new iPhone with iTune, I, however, did not do it with my 
iPhone12 because I did not have proper adapter to connect the device to my 
Windows desktop.
I heard that we can transfer data from phone-to-phone by putting them 
side-by-side, is this true?
If yes, how can it be done, please?
Thanks!
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RE: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fassle,

Yeah at the start of the phone set up,

It will ask you if you wish to do the quick setup or manual,

If you choose the quick then it will give you prompts as to what to do,

That’s the way I’ve setup my last 4 phones.
It’s a feature that has been in the system since IOS 11

Just follow the promptes the first of which is to hold the camera of one phone 
over the symbol of the other


And listen to what it says.

Good luck and I hope you get it working
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring Data from Phone to Phone?

Hi.
I always set up my new iPhone with iTune, I, however, did not do it with my 
iPhone12 because I did not have proper adapter to connect the device to my 
Windows desktop.
I heard that we can transfer data from phone-to-phone by putting them 
side-by-side, is this true?
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RE: Questions about the echo earbuds

[Simon A Fogarty]

That's the way google and amazon are going with the platforms they are 
producing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2021 4:31 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about the echo earbuds

I absolutely don't think these are a good idea. Theyw ant way too much 
permission just to be earbuds. They want access to everything you do on your 
phone not just waht you do with the Alexa app. This is partly how the iPhone is 
designed, when it gives permission it gives it across the board. But I don't 
want it recording everything I do on my phone, not that I do anything, but 
still. So I use my regular Airpods to listen to audible books on my phone using 
the Audible app and that works great.

On 12/29/21, colleyd1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Thank you for the info.
>
> Denise
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 8:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about the echo earbuds
>
> I have the Echo Buds and am using them with an iPhone SE 2020. They 
> work well. I personally don’t like their bulbous form factor, but this 
> is a highly personal preference thing. They work great with Audible 
> and YouTube and general article reading. Setting them up was a breeze 
> if you have the Amazon Alexa app installed. The whole process was 
> accessible. I have not tried adjusting the EQ, but this is one neat 
> little feature you can’t necessarily do with the AirPods.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 12/29/21, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> I should have gone to Amazon before sending my message. It says it 
>> needs IOS
>> 12 or later to use them. So yes, they can be used with the S E 2.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> If they say they only can be used with the iPhone 12 and later, then 
>> no, they can not be used with the S E 2, which has the processor of 
>> an iPhone 11. If I am incorrect, if somebody has used these with an 
>> iPhone less than the model 12, please let us know.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 4:22 PM, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What can anyone tell me about the echo earbuds? Amazon is having a 
>> special on them right now. Can they be used to read or listen to 
>> music with the iphone? It says you pair them using the echo ap and 
>> iphone
>> 12+. Would they work with the iphone SE20?
>>
>> Denise
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RE: Nespresso App

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah please,

I'm interested to know.

I have an expresso machine but blew up my  nespresso last year.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2021 4:28 pm
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Nespresso App

Well from what I have read you can use the app to update the software. 
When I get one I will find out!!

> On 30 Dec 2021, at 11:47 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What,
> There is an app?
> 
> What's complicated enough on a nespresso  to justify an app?
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 9:41 am
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> Hi all,
> can anybody use the Naspresso App?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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RE: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.

[Simon A Fogarty]

No the switching seamlessly between phone watch and or ipad is still obviously 
a work in progress

It happens less now than it did with IOS 13 but still sometimes happens.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2021 3:34 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.

Hi Sieghard,

Unfortunately, they don’t do what you are asking about. They switch seamlessly 
when nothing is playing, but when you get notifications, your book would not 
pause for notifications. You would have to stop the book and then see if your 
AirPods could pick up your watch. I have not got this to work consistently.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Dec 28, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

How are the new Airpods these days if you want to use them with an iPhone and 
an Apple Watch? If thye are paired with both do they switch seamlessly, e.g. if 
I am listening to an audio book on my iPhone and a notification comes in and I 
use my Apple Watch to check it, will the book pause, I hear what my watch says 
and then when I am done and the watch locks will be book continue playing?
Can you make volume adjustments on the Airpods?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: December 28, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.


They are extremely easy to pare with your phone. In fact, they should 
automatically pare once they see your phone.
The new 3rd generation is $230 Canadian, and the previous version, 2nd 
generation is $166 Canadian.

Hope this helps.

Chris




On Dec 28, 2021, at 8:24 AM, mich verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:

Hi my neffew got Air pods I think it was the third jen they are the ones with 
the magnetic case and I had a chance to look at them. I am wondering what are 
the cost of air pods? Of korce my neffew beaing sighted he doesn’t use 
voiceover but for those who are blind and vi on this list who have air pods how 
easy are they to pair and use with vo? Since after seeing them it makes me kind 
of want a pair lol. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey guys and girls,

Can we pull the plug on this now,
Be for the world gets out of hand anymore than it is.

 Things like this arent' worth getting waund up about.

 So lets ignore it and move on.

There are already enough wars in this world 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 11:36 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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RE: Turning On VoiceOver on iPhone12?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey folks,

Just checking something here,

But is the phone actually powered on and has a charge?

Plug it in to mains power for 10 minutes and then try turning voiceover on with 
the as suggested triple press of the right hand button.

It could be that you didn’t have a lot of charge in the phonen to start with
Or possibly you hadn’t held the power on button in for long enough to turn it 
on.

So try plugging in to mains power and then see what happens.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 5:37 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning On VoiceOver on iPhone12?

Not sure what to suggest, if it's a brand new phone which was never set  up and 
you do a quick and steady triple press of the side button Voiceover should come 
on.
If you bought this from an Apple Store in Vancouver you could always take it 
back there and get them to help you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: December 28, 2021 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning On VoiceOver on iPhone12?

Thanks much, I have done that several times and VO is not coming up.
I thought the volume might be low or the phone is mute so I unmuted phone and 
used headphone while raising volume when trying to get VO with triple clicking 
sidebutton.
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning On VoiceOver on iPhone12?

If it's a brand  new phone press the side button (on the right side near the 
top) 3 times quickly and Voiceover should come on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: December 28, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Turning On VoiceOver on iPhone12?

Hi, group.
How can I turn on Voiceover on iPhone12, please?
Thanks!


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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dan,

 Great yes, I can't agree more with you.

 No you don't need the app but it does give you the backup of the bose services 
if needed 
For things like firmware updates etc,
 I have it and only look at it about once a month if that.

 
Keep listening and enjoying your new toy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 12:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hey everyone, I have just gotten my Bose frame tenors and can’t say enough 
about how pleased I have been with this purchase. They are just what I wanted. 
I am able to go out in public whether in a restaurant or on walks and play soft 
music, make phone calls, etc. while moving about without having my ears 
completely closed up with earbuds or some type of covering. The sound is great 
and they paired very easily with my iPhone. I have not downloaded the app, not 
sure that I really need to.
A great investment though and highly recommend them!
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for this info! Will help a lot! I I foolishly agreed 
> with my wife that I would wait until Christmas to open them, will be 
> squirming until then! LOL
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 5:11 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes,
>> As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the 
>> current top of the range bose frames, The latest products from bose in the 
>> way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use the music app.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're 
>> asking about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is 
>> indeed the app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
>> necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
>> set a few settings.
>> 
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of thom3...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.
>> 
>> Thom
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dan Yates
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for 
>> $220. Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
>>> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
>>> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
>>> 
>>> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
>>> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you 
>>> would see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a 
>>> control.
>>> 
>>> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
>>> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
&g

RE: Communicating In French?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Doug,
It could be worse,

You could be American!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 10:17 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Communicating In French?


And, it's all your fault, serves you right for being Canadian. I'm Canadian too 
eh! I get messages from amazon in both French and English.
On 2021-12-28 3:07 p.m., Fazil M. wrote:
I am not sure what I have done somewhere, now Apple sends me messages in 
French, how can I change this, please?
Thanks!

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RE: Nespresso App

[Simon A Fogarty]

What,
There is an app?

What's complicated enough on a nespresso  to justify an app?

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 9:41 am
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Subject: Nespresso App

Hi all,
can anybody use the Naspresso App?
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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RE: how to create a rule in iphone

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’ve just noted this thread,

This isn’t totally true,

If you have web mail for your mail account,
You can go there
In most cases this is,
And set up your rule that way,
Then it should flow through to yyour iPHones mail account.

Or you could try setting a rule on the mail box through mail on a mac computer,
But that may only work for the mac mail application

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 7:29 am
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Subject: RE: how to create a rule in iphone

You can’t.




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Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:18 AM
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Subject: RE: how to create a rule in iphone

I’m not sure you can.  I’m following this thread.

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Hi

Can anyone explain to me how to create a rule in iphone inbox to get certain 
emails to get in a specific folder?
Thanks in advance

Anthony
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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Simon A Fogarty]

I would think that you don’t need to old them to use hey siri

I don’t with my pros or the second gen I had,

Hey siri worked due to the updated chip they had in these models.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
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Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 4:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello Christopher,

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I’m looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can’t change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models.

So, that is something that I obviously didn’t know before I bought them!

The gestures are very easy;
Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone
Press twice to go forward a track
Press 3 times to go back a track
And press once and hold to ask Siri a question.

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

Debbie


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Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
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Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

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Chaltain at Outlook

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Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
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Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello,

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can’t 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

Thanks!

Debbie
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RE: Has anyone received a message, that their phone has been hacked?

[Simon A Fogarty]

That's crap,

Don't go and download it,

Any chance you've just downloaded something you didn't expect to download 

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Fuehrer
Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2021 6:02 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Has anyone received a message, that their phone has been hacked?

Good evening everyone.
About 45 minutes ago, I finished watching a YouTube video concerning some other 
aspects of assistive technology.
Truly after the video ended, and I was getting ready to close Safari, a page 
popped up that said my phone has been hacked and instructed me to go to the App 
Store and download a repair program.
Should I do this?
Is this real?
Definitely don’t want to lose my phone 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: SIM for Setting Up a Brand New iPhone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I do always swap it over but it’s not really needed to do so.

Good lcuk with the setup of the new device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2021 9:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SIM for Setting Up a Brand New iPhone?

Hi, Group.
Should there be a physical SIM in the phone when setting up a brand new iPhone? 
Am I right in my assumption that Embedded SIM can only be activated once the 
phone is setup?
Thanks!

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RE: Dual SIM iPhone SE?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fazil

Don’t quote me on this but I would suggest using the e sim for your local / 
primary provider because that is the one that is going to stay with you longer,

Then when you travel you can purchase / obtain the standard nano sim from a 
provider and it’s a lot simpler and quicker to swap over the nano sim card.

Swapping a nano sim is a 30 second operation

Changing the e sim I believe can  be timely within providers systems.

Good luck with your  travels.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, 24 December 2021 9:54 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual SIM iPhone SE?

Thanks much, Sieghard.
One more question:
Does it matter whether I am taking E-SIM from my main provider or from a local 
provider in Saudi Arab? Or, does the E-SIM have to be from the main provider 
only?
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dual SIM iPhone SE?

Which iPhone SE? I assume the SE 2020 supports dual SIM, if it does and if the 
foreign provider supports eSIM then the answer would be Yes.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: December 23, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dual SIM iPhone SE?

Hi, Group.
Can I have a Nano SIM in iPhone SE from my Canadian provider, Freedom Mobile  
and an E-SIM from a foreign provider, STC?
Thanks!
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RE: Recording live music with the iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’m sure Malcolm said his phone was camera end  into the bag,
And if so then even better but I will go with the microphone is at the charging 
end as well.

That recording was to good to be the other way around.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recording live music with the iPhone


The reason it sounded so good is because the bottom mic isn't used for stereo 
recording. The iPhone uses the two mics near the camera. One of the mics is 
around the ear peace speaker and the other is on the back near the back camera. 
I really wish they would use the bottom mic as well to give better stereo 
separation.
On 12/21/2021 5:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I converted it from m4a to mp3 with GoldWave on my PC.
I took the master recording, set queue points and had GoldWave split the file 
into wav files, then used GoldWave to enter all the tag information in each 
.wav file, then used its batch processing to export as MP3 because that is more 
universal for sounds on web sites.

More than you wanted to know.



Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Gordon 
 wrote:


How did you get just press record to record in mp3? Mine will only record in 
m4a/aac and wav.
On 12/21/2021 12:51 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

There has been some discussion of recording with the iPhone during live 
performances for personal use.

I’ve put up an example on my web site of the possible results for those who 
just cannot help themselves…

Here is the paragraph from my site and if you are using HTML messages, the link 
should play the sample.

Recording live music with the iPhone 13 pro

Confession time.
I am putting up a sample of a recording I made recently of 6 cellist playing in 
an Atrium, which had a ceiling that was almost 3 stories tall. It was a large 
room and we were sitting in folding chairs a little more than half of the way 
from front-to-back and close to the middle side-to-side. If full the way they 
had the seats arranged with some space between, it probably would seat 150 to 
200 people, more in non-Covid times.

My iPhone is the 13 Pro and I carry it in a shoulder bag.
I didn't want to try and hold it during the concert so I started recording with 
the app, Just Press Record, and dropped it in my carrier. So, one end is 
sticking down into the small bag so the microphone is pointing at the floor, 
through the material of the bag. The other end is pointing toward the ceiling 
with the flap that normally covers it pulled back to give it open access to the 
room.

* Nothing in the program nor nothing said from the stage forbad recording. I 
know, I know; probably since they record their own programs for their own 
subscription service they probably don't' want people like me recording. 
However, it was not explicitly stated and I just did this for myself out of 
curiosity.

Here is a sample of the 6 cellists of the 45TH Parallel Universe playing the 
Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah.
HallelujahChorusSample.mp3


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RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Malcolm,

I was thinking of the quality rather than pauses between tracks,

Sorry if that’s not what you tried to do,
But I listen for quality in music and what you recorded was pretty good 
considering what you were recording on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Hi Simon,

For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
Just Record.

I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 Pro 
Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with a 
3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your interest.

The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.

Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of readers 
would understand the point I was trying to make.

I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

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Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
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Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt 
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Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Recording live music with the iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey that’s pretty good from a phone in a bag,

I wonder how it would come through if using just press record from the apple 
watch?

I’ve got JPR as a complication on my watch face,

So I record things if I need to in a hurry,

And they save to the cloud

But yeah what the watch recording would be like is of interest.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 7:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recording live music with the iPhone


There has been some discussion of recording with the iPhone during live 
performances for personal use.

I’ve put up an example on my web site of the possible results for those who 
just cannot help themselves…

Here is the paragraph from my site and if you are using HTML messages, the link 
should play the sample.

Recording live music with the iPhone 13 pro

Confession time.
I am putting up a sample of a recording I made recently of 6 cellist playing in 
an Atrium, which had a ceiling that was almost 3 stories tall. It was a large 
room and we were sitting in folding chairs a little more than half of the way 
from front-to-back and close to the middle side-to-side. If full the way they 
had the seats arranged with some space between, it probably would seat 150 to 
200 people, more in non-Covid times.

My iPhone is the 13 Pro and I carry it in a shoulder bag.
I didn't want to try and hold it during the concert so I started recording with 
the app, Just Press Record, and dropped it in my carrier. So, one end is 
sticking down into the small bag so the microphone is pointing at the floor, 
through the material of the bag. The other end is pointing toward the ceiling 
with the flap that normally covers it pulled back to give it open access to the 
room.

* Nothing in the program nor nothing said from the stage forbad recording. I 
know, I know; probably since they record their own programs for their own 
subscription service they probably don't' want people like me recording. 
However, it was not explicitly stated and I just did this for myself out of 
curiosity.

Here is a sample of the 6 cellists of the 45TH Parallel Universe playing the 
Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah.
HallelujahChorusSample.mp3


Richard
“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

My web site; 
https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: Question of the Week: What is your Favorite Apple product and Why?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Umm, yeah you can if you have the LTE cellular watch models.

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Bell
Sent: Monday, 20 December 2021 10:46 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Josh unfortunately you can't get a call on an apple watch if you have left 
your phone behind.  but they are still good to have.  my favourite apple 
product is my SE20 Janet

On 20/12/2021 06:38, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> The only apple device I own, is my iPhone 8.  It wasn't easy for me at 
> first when I upgraded from a traditional flip phone.  However, having 
> had my iPhone for the last 2 and a half years, I'd never go back.  It 
> is so much fun to watch movies, listen to music, books, and also call 
> and text.  The phone works very well with all my bluetooth speakers 
> and headphones.  I've thought about getting an apple watch at some 
> point in the future.  It would be pretty cool to get a phone call on 
> my watch if I left my phone behind.  The fact that my iPhone is a 
> mainstream device makes it all the better for being independent as 
> much as I can.  Apple accessibility is also great if I have a problem 
> of any kind.  Having an entire library of bard books at any time I 
> want is totally cool.  Thanks for the question Mark.  One more thing, 
> being able to put on some ringtones to my iPhone is also a lot of fun 
> as well.
>
> On 12/19/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I’d probably have to say my Apple Watch as well. I love the 
>> complications and the fact that I can so easily flick between my 
>> faces, to get a quick look at exactly what I want to see at that moment.
>>
>> I’m also a big fan of my Air Pod Pros’ and of course my iPhone 11.
>>
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Diane Giannetti
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 10:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>> product and Why?
>>
>> I love my Apple Watch because you can leave your phone behind if you’d like.
>> Also it has the oxygen and it’s really cool with doing steps and all 
>> that. I have the Apple Watch series 6.
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:18 PM, Esther Levegnale 
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>>
>> Esther
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
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>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Holly
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>> Love my SE 2020.  The only Apple product I own.
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RE: how to charge air pods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

That’s somewhat unlucky when the message comes up on the screen of the phone

I open my pros about 4 inchs away form the screen probably near the base and it 
works fine,

You need to make sure the case is fully open and both pods in for it to work 
best.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 8:43 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to charge air pods pro

Holding them near the camera is just where I have the best luck in getting it 
to work.

Arnold Schmidt
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 19, 2021, at 2:39 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Ummm,
Arnold,
You don’t have to hold the airpods neer the camera,

Just open the case close to any part of the phone and they should pop up a 
message at the bottom of the phone screen to say what the charge level is in 
the case and with each pod,


It’s got nothing to do with the cameras seeing te pods,

And this has been the same since airpods first gen
And with airpods pro and third gen.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 8:34 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: how to charge air pods pro

I only have the cheap ones, but I'll bet the airpods pro use a similar way to 
determine the charge of the case and airpods.  With the airpods in the case, 
hold the case near the back of your phone, in the region of the camera and open 
it. A dialogue should appear, telling you the charge of the airpods and the 
case. Sometimes, it takes a couple seconds for this dialogue to appear, 
sometimes you have to try it a couple times, but it should work. It probably 
will work better with the expensive ones.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You can maybe check the Today screen on your iPhone and see if the case shows 
up there, if it doesn't then it's anybody's guess, there will probably be some 
LED's on the case, but then again one would or should assume that Apple would 
make their own case show up in the Battery section of the Today Screen which 
you may have to add as a widget if it's not there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 18, 2021 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I got it.  How do you know when the case needs charged?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

Yeah there is a lightening port at the base of the airpods case to charge it 
with cable.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2021 7:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I don't have Airpods, but can't you also plug the case in? As for charging 
pads, any Qi wireless charging pad will do although I would look for one which 
specifically states it supports the iPhone 12 at least or the iPhone 13 which 
is better in which case you are sure to get one which supports the latest Apple 
fast charging standards.
Of course if you have a MagSafe case you relaly probably want to get a MagSafe  
compatible charging pad either from Apple or from a third party like Belkin 
which makes MagSafe chargers which allow you to charge an iPhone, Apple Watch 
and Airpods all at the same time. But for one of them be prepared to spend a 
bit of money, they don't come cheap. Here is an article which may have more 
useful information:

Qi and Magsafe - Everything an iPhone user needs to know about wireless 
charging - Apple 
Insider<https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/01/qi-and-magsafe---everything-an-iphone-user-needs-to-know-about-wireless-charging>


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 17, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I have  the mag charge case I don’t have a wireless charging pad.  What pad do 
you recommend?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegro

RE: how to charge air pods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ummm,
Arnold,
You don’t have to hold the airpods neer the camera,

Just open the case close to any part of the phone and they should pop up a 
message at the bottom of the phone screen to say what the charge level is in 
the case and with each pod,


It’s got nothing to do with the cameras seeing te pods,

And this has been the same since airpods first gen
And with airpods pro and third gen.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 8:34 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to charge air pods pro

I only have the cheap ones, but I'll bet the airpods pro use a similar way to 
determine the charge of the case and airpods.  With the airpods in the case, 
hold the case near the back of your phone, in the region of the camera and open 
it. A dialogue should appear, telling you the charge of the airpods and the 
case. Sometimes, it takes a couple seconds for this dialogue to appear, 
sometimes you have to try it a couple times, but it should work. It probably 
will work better with the expensive ones.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You can maybe check the Today screen on your iPhone and see if the case shows 
up there, if it doesn't then it's anybody's guess, there will probably be some 
LED's on the case, but then again one would or should assume that Apple would 
make their own case show up in the Battery section of the Today Screen which 
you may have to add as a widget if it's not there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 18, 2021 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I got it.  How do you know when the case needs charged?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

Yeah there is a lightening port at the base of the airpods case to charge it 
with cable.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2021 7:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I don't have Airpods, but can't you also plug the case in? As for charging 
pads, any Qi wireless charging pad will do although I would look for one which 
specifically states it supports the iPhone 12 at least or the iPhone 13 which 
is better in which case you are sure to get one which supports the latest Apple 
fast charging standards.
Of course if you have a MagSafe case you relaly probably want to get a MagSafe  
compatible charging pad either from Apple or from a third party like Belkin 
which makes MagSafe chargers which allow you to charge an iPhone, Apple Watch 
and Airpods all at the same time. But for one of them be prepared to spend a 
bit of money, they don't come cheap. Here is an article which may have more 
useful information:

Qi and Magsafe - Everything an iPhone user needs to know about wireless 
charging - Apple 
Insider<https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/01/qi-and-magsafe---everything-an-iphone-user-needs-to-know-about-wireless-charging>


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 17, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I have  the mag charge case I don’t have a wireless charging pad.  What pad do 
you recommend?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

You put them on a wireless charging pad.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 17, 2021 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: how to charge air pods pro

Hi, how do I charge the case and air pods?  Do I need to charge them first?  
How long does it take to charge them?
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RE: how to charge air pods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

If you have the latest airpods
 Pro and the latest case then the case is meant to be a magsafe capable case.

Note that the magsafe cases only came out a few months ago.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2021 7:04 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to charge air pods pro

Hi, how do I charge the case and air pods?  Do I need to charge them first?  
How long does it take to charge them?
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RE: how to charge air pods pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah there is a lightening port at the base of the airpods case to charge it 
with cable.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2021 7:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I don't have Airpods, but can't you also plug the case in? As for charging 
pads, any Qi wireless charging pad will do although I would look for one which 
specifically states it supports the iPhone 12 at least or the iPhone 13 which 
is better in which case you are sure to get one which supports the latest Apple 
fast charging standards.
Of course if you have a MagSafe case you relaly probably want to get a MagSafe  
compatible charging pad either from Apple or from a third party like Belkin 
which makes MagSafe chargers which allow you to charge an iPhone, Apple Watch 
and Airpods all at the same time. But for one of them be prepared to spend a 
bit of money, they don't come cheap. Here is an article which may have more 
useful information:

Qi and Magsafe - Everything an iPhone user needs to know about wireless 
charging - Apple 
Insider


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 17, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

I have  the mag charge case I don’t have a wireless charging pad.  What pad do 
you recommend?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro

You put them on a wireless charging pad.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: December 17, 2021 10:04 AM
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Subject: how to charge air pods pro

Hi, how do I charge the case and air pods?  Do I need to charge them first?  
How long does it take to charge them?
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RE: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don’t see the pricing changing currently with the next new phone but that of 
course will depend on world markets for the products required.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2021 6:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

I could see how the top of the line Pro models will go up in price especially 
if one with 2 Tb storage is offered, but I doubt that a regular iPhone 14 is 
going to cost a lot more than an iPhone 13 this year.
I have an iPhone 11 and I certainly don't see a need to upgrade and just as 
Christopher said, probably won't see a need to upgrade next year, either 
although I usually reserve judgement until the phones are released and we know 
exactly what they will or will not have. It sounds like the 48 MP camera is 
almost a certainty and also that the phone will be slightly thicker which will 
result in the camera bump  going away, of course there will be yet a faster, 
better processor, but apart from that we'll have to wait and see.
Maybe Lidar becomes a feature of also the standard iPhone 14 models instead of 
being just in the Pro models,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: December 15, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

Hi all, thanks for your prompt replies and suggestions !
Well iPhone ex is not giving me any trouble and it can easily go for next 8 to 
9 months and due to Smart Chip global shortages and expected price rise of 
iPhone 14 and no expectations to bring any Ground breaking upgradation in 
iphone 14 for VO users, I think it will be better to buy iPhone 13 right away.

Thank you once again to all of you for the replies!


Sent from my iPhone

On 15-Dec-2021, at 8:50 PM, Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I actually made that decision and got an iPhone 13 a couple of months ago. The 
better performance and battery life were very tempting. I was also able to get 
the 512 gb version and thereby double my onboard storage space. The better 
camera has proven to be a much more appreciated improvement that I would ever 
have guessed given my total blindness.
Part of what decided me was my concern around price hikes and supply shortages 
over the next number of years. Particularly for those of us on fixed incomes, 
we're in for a rough stretch. Having as up to date a tool as I can afford 
seemed like a good idea. It does so many things in life that I'd hate to have 
the battery be worn out or some other thing go wrong when I might not be able 
to afford a replacement. My XR is still kept as a backup and is also helpful 
when I demonstrate apps while on Zoom calls among other things. The performance 
difference is certainly noticable between the two phones. However, it wouldn't 
be disasterous if I needed to send my new phone for repairs and use it as my 
main phone again. That wasn't the case for my iPhone 7 which I've given to a 
niece who wanted it. Going from a 7 to an XR, you really feel the difference. 
So many things, including VoiceOver, make heavy use of the AI neural engine. 
The XR with its A12 chip can still hang in there but I get the sense that its 
future as my backup might be two or three years at the very most.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:48 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
As Christopher already said, if you are unhappy with your phone, the 13 series 
are great phones.  If you are not in a hurry to change phones then wait the 8 
or 9 months to see what the 14 brings.  Then, you could buy a 13 at likely a 
slightly lower price if the 14 doesn’t offer that much over the 13.
The 13 has a much faster processer than the X you have now, and better cameras.

Are there particular aspects of the new phone that has you chomping at the bit?




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dr. 
Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:16 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to 
upgrade to the newest iPhone.
So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest some 
major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all for 
sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or voice over 
user's perspective.
So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?

Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[Simon A Fogarty]

TheUE boom 2 has a microphone and you can use it to talk to others from calls 
on the phone et ,

The wonder boom which is smaller than the boom doesn’t have a microphone in it,

 That is the wonder boom,

Yes the roam when on Bluetooth cuts some of the features out,

 Amazon alexa / goole home are stod\pped 
So possibly that is why it's not working for you.

As for calls,
I'm yet to try that out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 7:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

I don't think you can make voice calls with a Sonos Roam; in fact while Alexa 
works well on any Sonos speaker, the ability to use the Alexa Intercom 
functionality or to make phone calls is blocked somehow. I don't know why this 
is, but unless something changed very recently it is not possible.
Also, my Wanderboom 2 does not have a microphone, it is strictly a Bluetooth 
speaker. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 14, 2021 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Yeah I hve a UE Boom 2 speaker that I have used with my phone and it has a 
microphone in it 

We used it for phone calls with friends in Australia before zoom and facetime 
really got up and running.

Not sure how much they cost these days 

The other might be the sonos roam 
Which I believe  has a microphone in it.
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Subject: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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RE: mirroring the iPhone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

Good luck with that,

I’ve been trying to get that to workfor years but it doesn’t.

Even reading them on one doesn’t cancel out the other.

At least didn’t
There was an update to watch os 8.3 this morning,

I don’t think it did anything more to change this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 8:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mirroring the iPhone?

Hi all,
I am tired of having to delete my text messages and phone messages from both 
the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing mirror iPhone or something to 
that effect, in a couple of different places.  Can someone tell me what I need 
to do to get this to quit?  If I delete one, I would like the other place to be 
deleted as well.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I hve a UE Boom 2 speaker that I have used with my phone and it has a 
microphone in it 

We used it for phone calls with friends in Australia before zoom and facetime 
really got up and running.

Not sure how much they cost these days 

The other might be the sonos roam 
Which I believe  has a microphone in it.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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RE: Tap to wake or not

[Simon A Fogarty]

Probably because something is tapping against the screen and waking it up.

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Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:43 am
To: viphone 
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Hi,
I prefer the Tap to wake, but as I said the phone keeps waking in my pocket.
Max.  

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:59 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have it turned on and like it, but you should just try as this is entirely 
> subjective and you'll get many who say they turn it off and others say they 
> turn it on. Even if 8 out of 10 say they turn it off then for me that is 
> still not the correct setting and if you happen to like it as I do then even 
> if everybody said you should turn it off it would be not good to do so.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: December 11, 2021 3:50 PM
> To: iPhone List > 
> Subject: Tap to wake or not
> 
> Hi all,
> do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
> I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
> when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
> if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
> Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I 
> suspect ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Max.
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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the power 
button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 
And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah UsB C I knew about as it comes with the roam,

 Qi charging pad,
You shitting me?

Are they not a prpriotory connection?

Currently I'm stuck between do I pay 700 for the bigger sound and more solid 
speaker,

Or 300 for the pocket sized speaker with less sound 
And then have to get the wireless charger as an extra.

I like both speakers 
The roam is small size and less sound punch,

The move kicks pretty good but is 2.5 times the price.


The choice to make.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:35 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

And just FYI, you can charge the Roam via a USB-C cable or stand it vertically 
onto any Qi charging pad.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 13, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

Yeah was looking at both today,

The roam is very nice and small / compact,

 About half the price of the move if I count in the wifi charging adapter,

But the volume doesn't scare the neighbours if I turn it up.

But in saying that the roam  still has a nice volume and the battery life is 
pretty much the same in both devices Approx. 10  hours in each.
But I"ve not yet been able to try a move with my own music 


Cheers though
It's good to know they work well off the phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 1:37 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth / wifi speakers

I have the Roam and love it.
It works great as a bluetooth speaker for my iPhone when needed, otherwise is 
plugged in as part of the overall system in our house providing music in a 
small room.



Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 1:28 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi lists,
> 
> I find myself in need of a replacement Bluetooth / wireless capable 
> speaker
> 
> I have currently a number of sonos products around my house and I'm 
> looking Primarily at the sonos roam and move portable speakers
> 
> I just wondered if anyone has had an interaction with both if not 
> either of these, Other than in a store / retail display stand?
> 
> They need to be able to talk with my iPhone and both these do with airplay 2 
> if not Bluetooth 5.x.
> 
> I have one in mind over the other but would like to hear other peoples views 
> on these devices if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Simon F
> 
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RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah was looking at both today,

The roam is very nice and small / compact,

 About half the price of the move if I count in the wifi charging adapter,

But the volume doesn't scare the neighbours if I turn it up.

But in saying that the roam  still has a nice volume and the battery life is 
pretty much the same in both devices 
Approx. 10  hours in each.
But I"ve not yet been able to try a move with my own music 


Cheers though 
It's good to know they work well off the phone.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 1:37 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth / wifi speakers

I have the Roam and love it.
It works great as a bluetooth speaker for my iPhone when needed, otherwise is 
plugged in as part of the overall system in our house providing music in a 
small room.



Richard

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website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 1:28 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi lists,
> 
> I find myself in need of a replacement Bluetooth / wireless capable 
> speaker
> 
> I have currently a number of sonos products around my house and I'm 
> looking Primarily at the sonos roam and move portable speakers
> 
> I just wondered if anyone has had an interaction with both if not 
> either of these, Other than in a store / retail display stand?
> 
> They need to be able to talk with my iPhone and both these do with airplay 2 
> if not Bluetooth 5.x.
> 
> I have one in mind over the other but would like to hear other peoples views 
> on these devices if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Simon F
> 
> 
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RE: a headphone adapter

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi kay,

Yeah a belcon rockstar,

They are available on the apple website or apple stores and I think amazon as 
well.

Plus there is just a straight maile lightening connector and female headphone 
jack you can get. Again from both options.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 5:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a headphone adapter

I don't know if it was on this list, but a while ago someone mentioned an 
adapter for the newer iPhones that plug in to the lightning port on the iPhone. 
 The one I have just has the 3.5 female jack for the headphones.  What I saw 
and didn't keep was an adapter that plugged in to the lightning port of the 
phone and had a 3.5 female jack and a female lightning plug for charging or 
plugging something else in to it.  I think it might have been called a rockstar 
but am not sure.  If anyone can help, this would be great.  Thanks much.

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bluetooth / wifi speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi lists,

I find myself in need of a replacement Bluetooth / wireless capable speaker 

I have currently a number of sonos products around my house and I'm looking  
Primarily at the sonos roam and move portable speakers 

I just wondered if anyone has had an interaction with both if not either of 
these,
Other than in a store / retail display stand?

They need to be able to talk with my iPhone and both these do with airplay 2 if 
not Bluetooth 5.x.

I have one in mind over the other but would like to hear other peoples views on 
these devices if possible.

Thanks.

Simon F



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RE: Two Apple watches

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

As I said I know the 2 watchs off one phone is possible,
It's the 2 watchs and 2 sepperate apple id accounts that have me confused.

I can see why from your info,

But with out trying it 
It's a difficult one.

Good luck I hope you find an answer 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 6:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two Apple watches

Simon,

I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to use 
so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is possible. 
I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the given advice & 
if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to call Apple 
accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.

Donna
   
> 
> HI Donna,
> 
> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
> 
> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
> 
> Or should that be paired with a phone,
> 
> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two Apple watches
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
> 
> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
> 
> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
> The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a 
> keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
> the long message.
> 
> Donna
> 
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RE: Two Apple watches

[Simon A Fogarty]

HI Donna,

I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.

But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,

Or should that be paired with a phone,

 But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?



Good luck with what yu're trying to do!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two Apple watches

Hi All,

I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 

I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a child's 
watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone watch. The 
functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the child's watch 
as a second watch for myself...
1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
powered on, being used during the day doing life? 

We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is threatening 
to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a keyboard on 
the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble writing & entering 
his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help him with use of the 
watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for the long message.

Donna
 

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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey mines a little lady,



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Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2021 7:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

That'S cute. I use to think there was a little man in the radio as well.

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Sent: December 11, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really young my mom 
tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to take apart a radio that 
they had and when she asked me why, I told her that I was looking for the 
little people in there.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be great 
in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.

Another answer, it is magic.

The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a specific 
pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when it thought I 
had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer

Later,


Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?  I'll 
have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your hands and not 
just using water for something else?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be 
great in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing
your hands it counts down

On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash your
> hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food from mixing
> a
>
> meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of your
> watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find it, and
> then
>
> at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the
> point
>
> of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
> great in whatever they want to do.
> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
> Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
> was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.
>
> I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my
> series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to
> the
> new watch.
>
> So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit,
> it is kind of fun.
>
> I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but,
> as
> of my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the
> job done right (smile).
>
> Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my
> first new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.
>
> What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.
>
> Mark
>
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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi mark,

I have the series 7 gps 

I'd seen that hand washing feature 
But I've never tried it,
Now you make me rethink that when I need to tomorrow.
 You make it sound more interesting than I thought it would be.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 7:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Hello All,

Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.

I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my series 
4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to the new watch.

So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit, it 
is kind of fun.  

I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but, as of 
my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the job done 
right (smile).

Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my first 
new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.

What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.

Mark


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RE: re iphone advice please

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hell,
I'm just hoping I wake up tomorrow 

Lets not get carried away here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary.  
That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is 
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the 
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and 
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which 
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no 
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live 
>> off the stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the 
>> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the 
>> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think 
>> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many 
>> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all 
>> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty 
>> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability 
>> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
>> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches 
>> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 
>> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR 
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home 
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to 
>> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to 
>> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest 
>> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz 
>> now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with 
>> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has 
>> been rumored to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
>> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use 
>> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but 
>> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 
>> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture 
>> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I 
>> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher 
>> and home. Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>> of Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a 
>> huge advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to 
>> learn the swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or 
>> bring up the app switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then 
>> certainly they would have to deal with a phone with no home button in 
>> a few years.
>>  
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mo
>>  Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>  
>>  Hi Richard and Wayne,
>>  Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>>  This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to 
>> have a home button as other 

RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes,
As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the current top of 
the range bose frames,
The latest products from bose in the way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use the 
music app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're asking 
about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is indeed the 
app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
set a few settings.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
thom3...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.

Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for $220. 
Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
Thanks,
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
> 
> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you would 
> see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
> 
> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
> Earbuds
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
>> already have?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
>>> sighted wife to swap them out!
>>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>>>> Danney
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun 
>>>> glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> Tenor are more squarish
>>>> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear 
>>>> drop shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the 
>>>> outer corner of the eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest
>>>> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Anthony Vece
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
>>>&

RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi dan,

There is the bose music app which you are meant to use but you can pair them 
directly with an iPhone through the Bluetooth settings.

I've got the music app and it is confusing but it gives a few extra features 
your frames can use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 2:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for $220. 
Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
Thanks,
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
> 
> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you would 
> see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
> 
> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
> Earbuds
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
>> already have?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
>>> sighted wife to swap them out!
>>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>>>> Danney
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun 
>>>> glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> Tenor are more squarish
>>>> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear 
>>>> drop shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the 
>>>> outer corner of the eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest
>>>> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Anthony Vece
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me 
>>>> what style glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a 
>>>> pair of sunglasses that are aviator style and they’re very 
>>>> comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair of Bose frames that 
>>>> would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank you stay 
>>>> safe
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the 
>>>>> earlier models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The 
>>>>> Frames do have very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and 
>>>>> receiving phone calls. I wear my Tempos literally a

RE: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Get them to try changing the voice and see if it keeps happening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2021 2:58 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after 
upgrading to iOS 15?

Hi List,

I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all 
punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to 
none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I 
recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those 
details are gone with the wind at this point.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any 
settings to check?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Reinstalling an app on the Apple Watch?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I haven't tried playing one through the wath speaker,
I've only ever used my pods to listen 

Might have to try this one.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2021 8:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reinstalling an app on the Apple Watch?

Can you play Audible books via the Apple Watch speaker by now or is a Bluetooth 
headset still required? Always thought it was strange that basically the only 
thing coming out of the Apple Watch speaker was Voiceover.
I can understand how you wouldn't want to play Music via that tiny speaker, but 
I could see myself listening to an audio book on low volume when I'm lying in 
bed at night if it could be played via the speaker.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 8, 2021 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reinstalling an app on the Apple Watch?

I'm not Malcolm, and I don't have this app, but according to the App Store at 
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/streamlets/id1507575984 this is an app that lets 
you play radio streams directly on your Apple Watch. It costs $0.99. Here's 
what it says in the App Store:

Description. A standalone radio streaming watch App that plays through the 
watch speaker. Now with FlickType support! Leave your phone at home and browse 
over 26,000 radio stations from around the world to stream directly on your 
Apple Watch. * Search for Radio Stations directly on your Apple Watch. * Stream 
live broadcasts over wi-fi or cellular*.

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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reinstalling an app on the Apple Watch?

hi Malcolm what does streamlets do?  Janet

On 08/12/2021 17:50, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Recently I purchased a new series7 Apple Watch.
>
> Initially I set it up from a backup of my old series2 watch.
>
> I installed an app called Streamlets that worked well.
>
> Wisely or otherwise I reset the watch and set it up as a new device.
>
> Now when I go to the App Store and try to install Streamlets again, I have a 
> Purchased button and double-tapping this does not reinstall the app.
>
> I have enabled Automatic Downloads in the Watch App but this does not 
> reinstall the app either.  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but the 
> solution alludes me at the moment, so any suggestions welcome.
>
> I cannot get Hey Siri to work on my watch either.
>
> In all other respects the series7 is an enormous improvement.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>

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RE: a few questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry kay,

Look at the mindfulness app on either your watch or your watch app on the phone.

It’s called mind full ness.

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 1:31 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a few questions

Simon,
Thanks for the suggestion, however I have know app called wellbeing.  I have 
looked at the mindfulness ap and there is no notification in there at all.

Kay Malmquist
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: a few questions

Hi Kay,

It’s not on my faces either but it still pops up at least once may be twice per 
day,

I know at night it does.


You should be able to enable it by going into the wellbeing app on the watch or 
phones watch app.

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Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: a few questions

Hi people,
I am curious about a few things.  When I first got this watch, mindfulness 
would pop up twice a day and remind me to breathe or the other option was 
reflect.  Now, it hasn't reminded me since yesterday, and I miss the little 
pest.  is that because it isn't on my watch face any more?  It is on one that 
is not my current face though.  I also noticed when going in to the mindfulness 
app, there is a more button that shows you a button to change duration and the 
tip says, here are some ways you can enhance a reflect or breathe session, 
depending which one you are in.  However, when you tap on this, nothing 
happens.  Any ideas why?  Also, I wondered about the blood oxygen app and how 
to read your pulse, heart rate and anything else like that.  Not that I need it 
but am just more curious about it.  If someone wants to respond off list, that 
would be fine.  I'm just curious about things like that and have looked but 
haven't found things like notifications Or how to set some of this stuff up.  I 
have been told that some of this can be set up in the fitness app, but when I 
go there, I only see summary and fitness plus.  I am not interested in sharing 
and so that option doesn't interest me either.  I am also curious as to how to 
set up moon phases and sunrise and sunset.  There is a lot in this message and 
I hope it isn't to much.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Good luck,

Hope you do enough to kill it.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
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Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 2:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Kevin.

I know it’s an older phone,

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone




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mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kevin.

I know it’s an older phone,

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone



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mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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RE: a few questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

It’s not on my faces either but it still pops up at least once may be twice per 
day,

I know at night it does.


You should be able to enable it by going into the wellbeing app on the watch or 
phones watch app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a few questions

Hi people,
I am curious about a few things.  When I first got this watch, mindfulness 
would pop up twice a day and remind me to breathe or the other option was 
reflect.  Now, it hasn't reminded me since yesterday, and I miss the little 
pest.  is that because it isn't on my watch face any more?  It is on one that 
is not my current face though.  I also noticed when going in to the mindfulness 
app, there is a more button that shows you a button to change duration and the 
tip says, here are some ways you can enhance a reflect or breathe session, 
depending which one you are in.  However, when you tap on this, nothing 
happens.  Any ideas why?  Also, I wondered about the blood oxygen app and how 
to read your pulse, heart rate and anything else like that.  Not that I need it 
but am just more curious about it.  If someone wants to respond off list, that 
would be fine.  I'm just curious about things like that and have looked but 
haven't found things like notifications Or how to set some of this stuff up.  I 
have been told that some of this can be set up in the fitness app, but when I 
go there, I only see summary and fitness plus.  I am not interested in sharing 
and so that option doesn't interest me either.  I am also curious as to how to 
set up moon phases and sunrise and sunset.  There is a lot in this message and 
I hope it isn't to much.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: An Apple Music Question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ddwayne,

Try logging out of apple music and logging back in,

I know someone else had this recently but I can't remember what they did 


-Original Message-
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Steele
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 5:52 am
To: IPhone List 
Subject: An Apple Music Question

Hello Listers,

I have an APPLE music subscription. This morning, I went to my library to play 
a specific album only to find that a number of tracks are missing from the 
original download... just vanished into cyperspace. Does anyone have any 
suggestions on how to retrieve missing tracks which iTunes, in its own special 
wisdom has decided to just delete from one's library? I'm sure this has been 
discussed before, and will welcome suggestions from previous posts. It's a bit 
disturbing to discover that music is randomly deleted from the iTunes library 
for which we pay a monthly subscription. That's my rant (sermon) for the day. 
Hope everyone on the list stays safe and well, and has a blessed holiday season.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kevin,

Any chance you have a Bluetooth keyboard and could use that to navigate through 
 the menus with vo?

Or try doing a factory restore  which will involve needing to connect your 
phone to the computer,
But shouldn’t’ require a trust acceptance.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 4:51 pm
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
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RE: watch faces?

[Simon A Fogarty]

HI Kay,

Good point,

I’d never noticed that before.

You have to add the face to your watch either on the watch app of the phone or 
on the actual watch,

Then you get the number of complications on the face.

The problem is that you don’t get each of the
 Faces telling you the complication number at the time you’re looking through,

I have two faces I use constantly which tell me the complication numbers.

But none of them in the faces tab give the complication number


So you might have to look / add each one  at a time to find what you need.

Good luck though.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 4:18 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: watch faces?

It give you the names, but the descriptions  do not say how many complications 
the faces have.  That is why the question.

Kay Malmquist
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2021 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: watch faces?

Hi Kay,

If you have a look at the watch app on the phone it should give you the names 
of the watch face and how many complications each face has.

Or you can bring them up under add on the watch faces and they do have the 
number of complicaitons each face has.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: watch faces?

Hi all,
I want to create a couple of faces for my watch and have created one, but there 
are so many that I can't figure out which ones might be better.  I am also 
looking for one with 6 complications.  I know one exist because I heard it on a 
demo, but I didn't hear the name of it.  Any recommendations for any to use 
would be appreciated.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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RE: watch faces?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

If you have a look at the watch app on the phone it should give you the names 
of the watch face and how many complications each face has.

Or you can bring them up under add on the watch faces and they do have the 
number of complicaitons each face has.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: watch faces?

Hi all,
I want to create a couple of faces for my watch and have created one, but there 
are so many that I can't figure out which ones might be better.  I am also 
looking for one with 6 complications.  I know one exist because I heard it on a 
demo, but I didn't hear the name of it.  Any recommendations for any to use 
would be appreciated.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Allan,

And kellie,

So long as both phones have IOS versions later than 11
Then the wireless transferr will work between the devices,


As for the older device,
It should not matter if the IOS Versions are different
The transfer can actually intergrate the update of the IOS version on the new 
dvice if the older phone has a newer OS version.


So it shouldn’t be an issue for you with the transfer.

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 12:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

Kelly,

I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a wireless 
phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a version of iOS 
that supports this transfer and it must not be running a newer version of iOS 
than the target iPhone. Other than that, I don't believe there are any 
restrictions.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Kelly 
Pierce mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
by text message to download the apps from the app store.

I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
smoothly.

Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
management and Face ID.

Kelly



On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 
> denni...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>> including ring tones.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of
>> *Kevin
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because
>>
>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is
>>
>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I
>>
>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>> backups.
>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But
>>
>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 
>> jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
>> > mailto:kev...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7.
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another,
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my
>> ancient
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take
>> forever.
>> >
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the
>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible
>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC
>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any
>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Kevin
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RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Any time you like,

They should take the same sim from memory
A nano

Use either a sim tool which should be in the paper work for your new phone or a 
paper clip to push out the sim tray of each device.
Note the sim card is small, so do the removal over a table or surface you can 
find the sim on if you drop it.

But you can do it at any time during the setup process of your new phone.

Good luck you’re not really going to have much trouble.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2021 8:22 pm
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

At what point should I remove the SIMM card from my iPhone 7.  Can it be placed 
in my iPhone 13?  do I need something else?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:06:35 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:
thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and not 
from my pone?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:
I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything including 
ring tones.

From: vip...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because my 
stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is not 
involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I should 
have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups.  should I 
not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But I should be 
covered.  Right?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 
jhud...@twc.com wrote:
Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. Just 
make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts etc. etc., 
then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from Allan, skipping 
the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You will have all of your 
stuff in about 20 minutes.

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
> mailto:kev...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. Historically, I 
> always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 
> most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient Mac mini 2010 and doing 
> a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take forever.
>
> It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the cloud 
> and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible for me to 
> simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC and let it do 
> its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any faster, more 
> effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>
> Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>
> Best,
> Kevin
>
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RE: AirPods Pro and spatial audio

[Simon A Fogarty]

How do you know what an acid trip is like? LOL!

And if you dropped your pods in the wash,

Dude that's surely not a warrant issue,
That's a user created issue,


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Nalda
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2021 4:52 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AirPods Pro and spatial audio

First, if you wanna really experience spatial audio, turn your head when 
streaming talk radio, it’s a bit like an acid trip, I can’t really hear the 
effect in music, but boy!  Now the bad news, they went through the wash!. They 
still work, but left one very static filled. Guessing may need to take to 
Apple, they might be under warranty, as these were a replacement for a previous 
pair that stopped taking button presses and failed a diagnostic test. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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RE: WiFi connection

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

No it’s all done through setup via the phone,

So the watch picks up that info from what the phone is connecting to .



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2021 5:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WiFi connection

Hi again,
When you set up the watch, do you have to connect the WiFi on the watch?  I 
don't remember setting it up and adding the password.  When I go in to WiFi on 
my watch, it says on, but it doesn't say connected.  It shows my WiFi but says 
nothing about being connected.

Kay Malmquist
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adding wallet app to watch os 8 screen

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Folks,

Just wondering if anyone knows of a way to add the wallet app to the face / 
complication of the watch os 8 avaiable faces?

I'm using the infergraph modular face and would like to add the wallert to it,

But it's not an option for me.

Cheers for any info folks might have.

Cheers.

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RE: Help with adding a face or complications?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

I would suggest using your phone and the watch app on it.

Find the faces or face you want to use,
Then  listen to voiceover which should say double tap to edit

You open the face you want and then the first thing you can change is the colour
Then and it is a lengthy list,
Select the colour
And then keep moving right along the list there will be each of the different 
apps or complications you wish to setup,

Then once you have sorted that out,
There is a button at he right hand end
To select that face as your watchs default face.

If you use your watch,
Then flick one finger down the screen and you will / should hear an option for 
customise it should be the third flick down,

Tap on that,
Find the face you want from either the ones shown or under the add button,

Then flick up / down to find the edit button,
Tap on that,
And then flick left / right to the different complications / items on the face,

Once you get to say the colour which is again first,
Tap on the colour list and you should get a long list again of colours from 
which you tap on the colour you want.

Then move on to the different items around the face,

Note though that some of the faces have sub items which can be in the top and 
bottom corners as well as the 12, 3, 6, 9 and central points on the watch face.

And you might need to play around to figure out where you are putting what.

Hope this helps.


Simon F


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2021 9:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help with adding a face or complications?

HI all,
I have the mystic access tutorial for the Apple watch, but they are using a 
series 4 and some things are different.  That isn't too much of a problem 
because I can figure out what I need to do.  Except with one thing.  I have a 
series 7 and What they say to do to add a face, is not what is happening on 
this watch or the watch app.  I have figured out how to change the colors on my 
current face, but not how to change complications or how to add a face.  Could 
someone help me?  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: How to search?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Kay has a series 7 watch.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2021 7:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to search?

Didn't you say you had a series 4 watch? It says in the quote I provided "Apple 
Watch series 7 only"

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: December 2, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to search?

The only problem with that is that there is no search field to tap on.  This is 
why I asked the question.

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: How to search?

Here is what I found in an Apple support article:

To find a specific app, tap the Search field at the top of the screen, then 
type (Apple Watch Series 7 only), or use dictation or Scribble to enter the 
name of the app. You can also browse trending categories of apps by tapping a 
category.

So it would appear that unless you bought a new series 7 Apple Watch you can't 
search except to use the work-around Richard described or search on your iPhone 
and then install the app on the watch.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 2, 2021 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to search?

I don’t find a search button on my Series 6 in the app store on the watch.
The only way I know to search the app store on the watch is to use Siri.
Hold in the brown and say Find XX app in the app store.

HTH,



Richard
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Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to search?

Yes guys, another apple watch question.  I am listening to the Mystic Access 
tutorial on the apple watch and because Lisa is using a series 4 watch, there 
are some differences.  One thing I noticed on her watch is when she goes in to 
the app store on the watch, there is a search button.  When I do this, there is 
just a list of items but no search button.  Where is it ?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
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RE: How to search?

[Simon A Fogarty]

There was when I looked 5 minutes back.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2021 7:26 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to search?

The only problem with that is that there is no search field to tap on.  This is 
why I asked the question.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: How to search?

Here is what I found in an Apple support article:

To find a specific app, tap the Search field at the top of the screen, then 
type (Apple Watch Series 7 only), or use dictation or Scribble to enter the 
name of the app. You can also browse trending categories of apps by tapping a 
category.

So it would appear that unless you bought a new series 7 Apple Watch you can't 
search except to use the work-around Richard described or search on your iPhone 
and then install the app on the watch.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 2, 2021 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to search?

I don’t find a search button on my Series 6 in the app store on the watch.
The only way I know to search the app store on the watch is to use Siri.
Hold in the brown and say Find XX app in the app store.

HTH,



Richard
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Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to search?

Yes guys, another apple watch question.  I am listening to the Mystic Access 
tutorial on the apple watch and because Lisa is using a series 4 watch, there 
are some differences.  One thing I noticed on her watch is when she goes in to 
the app store on the watch, there is a search button.  When I do this, there is 
just a list of items but no search button.  Where is it ?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: How to search?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well it’s there on the series 7.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2021 6:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to search?

I don’t find a search button on my Series 6 in the app store on the watch.
The only way I know to search the app store on the watch is to use Siri.
Hold in the brown and say Find XX app in the app store.

HTH,



Richard
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Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to search?

Yes guys, another apple watch question.  I am listening to the Mystic Access 
tutorial on the apple watch and because Lisa is using a series 4 watch, there 
are some differences.  One thing I noticed on her watch is when she goes in to 
the app store on the watch, there is a search button.  When I do this, there is 
just a list of items but no search button.  Where is it ?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: How to search?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

It's like having a little phone on your wrist,

About an inch and a half give or take square on your wrist,


I think you'd be fine using it 
And yes I believe apple vis have docs on it or at least the operating system.

Good luck and hope you enjoy it when you get it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2021 6:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to search?

It has been suggested to me to get an Apple watch. 

Are they easy to learn to use? 

Does Applevis have any tutorials on them? 

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Subject: How to search?

Yes guys, another apple watch question.  I am listening to the Mystic Access 
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are some differences.  One thing I noticed on her watch is when she goes in to 
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just a list of items but no search button.  Where is it ?  Thanks for any help.

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