Re: Neck Speakers

[Doug Parisian]

Sieghard, I cannot provide a specific link and if I did, it might spoil 
your exploratory fun. You have the idea of neck speakers. My Monster is 
horse shoe shaped, fits comfortably around the back of the neck, and the 
two speakers face upward roughly on either side of the head. Though they 
may fee a bit heavy in the hand, one worn one could easily forget they 
have the device on as I have occasionally done.


My fuzzy brain says you are from Canada so:

www.amazon.ca

once there, select electronics in the drop-down box, tab over to the 
search field, enter "neck speaker" and spend money.



On 2023-07-27 3:13 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Can you provide a link for your Monster neck speaker?

By "neck speaker" do you mean those who look a bit like a large 
horseshoe and you hang them around your neck and the speakers then sit 
more or less on your collarbone on each side of  your neck, straight 
down from your ears?


There are many of them available on Amazon, my first one was made of a 
hard plastic and I found it less comfortable so I got another one 
where the part that goes around your neck is a thick, round and 
softer/flexible material. At the end of it then is the speaker part of 
each side and on the right side are your typical controls for turning 
the speaker on/off as well as play/pause, volume up/down and skip 
forward/rewind. The one I have does have a microphone and I use it if 
it's just answering a short call, but it's not really good enough for 
a long conversation.


It is of course incredibly rude when people talk on the phone let 
alone in a different language, I mean, where do we live? What is 
Canada becoming with so many people from so many different countries 
and cultures 🤣


Then of course I may have been heard speaking Germany on the phone 
with my Mom or maybe my wife has dared to speak Filipino with her 
family. What I certainly would not want is fo reverybody around me to 
overhear not just one side but both sides of the conversation or to 
hear which audio book I am listening to. A GPS announcement is one 
thing, but that's about it and for me the neck speaker is something I 
use when I am working in my shop or in the garden and I want to listen 
to a book but not necessarily wear a headset.


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Subject: Neck Speakers

Well gentle readers, perhaps I'm a little slow on the uptake here.

Apparently, neck speakers of various types and quality have been 
around for a few years. For reasons of which I'm not quite sure, there 
had never been a discussion of this audio alternative.


I bit the bullet and purchased a neck speaker made by monster. Were I 
more knowledgeable and attentive, I would have purchased one which 
included a microphone. For years, I had this damn silly idea that bone 
conduction was the way to go so I wouldn't disturb the rest of humanity.


Forget that; the rest of humanity has been disturbing me for years 
with one sided phone conversations, talking rudely on busses and other 
places, and even in a different language.


I ride the buses which in Winnipeg have major stop announcements 
announced for all to hear. When necessary, I have my GPS fill in the 
streets not announced including my distance from my chosen location.


I make this  noise by rubbing my hind legs together!

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Re: Neck Speakers

[Doug Parisian]

Alex and fans and non fans! I poked around on both the Canadian sites 
for Bestbuy and the source. Only Bestbuy had a few choices including an 
"unboxed" Monster which is the same as mine for $68. Mine was brand new 
from amazon for $69. That was on Amazon Prime days.


I did not purchase them for movies or music though they (sorry, it) 
sounds reasonable. Monster makes a big deal about being able to feel the 
music which in fact does absolutely NOTHING for me beyond being slightly 
annoying. Unlike a quality audio system, or concert,this unit has what I 
call "toy" bass. $25 apple ear buds sound much better!


Ears today, blown tomorrow.

On 2023-07-27 1:56 p.m., Alex Stone wrote:

I don’t claim to be any sort of expert, but I’ve never heard of them either!


On 27 Jul 2023, at 19:21, Doug Parisian  wrote:

Well gentle readers, perhaps I'm a little slow on the uptake here.

Apparently, neck speakers of various types and quality have been around for a 
few years. For reasons of which I'm not quite sure, there had never been a 
discussion of this audio alternative.

I bit the bullet and purchased a neck speaker made by monster. Were I more 
knowledgeable and attentive, I would have purchased one which included a 
microphone. For years, I had this damn silly idea that bone conduction was the 
way to go so I wouldn't disturb the rest of humanity. Forget that; the rest of 
humanity has been disturbing me for years with one sided phone conversations, 
talking rudely on busses and other places, and even in a different language.

I ride the buses which in Winnipeg have major stop announcements announced for 
all to hear. When necessary, I have my GPS fill in the streets not announced 
including my distance from my chosen location.

I make this  noise by rubbing my hind legs together!


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Neck Speakers

[Doug Parisian]

Well gentle readers, perhaps I'm a little slow on the uptake here.

Apparently, neck speakers of various types and quality have been around 
for a few years. For reasons of which I'm not quite sure, there had 
never been a discussion of this audio alternative.


I bit the bullet and purchased a neck speaker made by monster. Were I 
more knowledgeable and attentive, I would have purchased one which 
included a microphone. For years, I had this damn silly idea that bone 
conduction was the way to go so I wouldn't disturb the rest of humanity. 
Forget that; the rest of humanity has been disturbing me for years with 
one sided phone conversations, talking rudely on busses and other 
places, and even in a different language.


I ride the buses which in Winnipeg have major stop announcements 
announced for all to hear. When necessary, I have my GPS fill in the 
streets not announced including my distance from my chosen location.


I make this  noise by rubbing my hind legs together!


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Re: Where Does PrintScreen Go?

[doug parisian]

You were close but no first prize! I didn't look too hard for a folder 
called photoed but turns out it actually has it's own directory under 
photos at least in windows 10. Guess what, it's actually called "screen 
shot."



On 2023-05-27 8:59 a.m., Barbara Stahl wrote:

Try looking in photos I think they're called screenshots


On May 26, 2023, at 1:18 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

Yes silly question but I haven't used a print screen for a long time. I've 
found the print screen key but don't know where it goes or the name of the file 
so I can search!

HELP!

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Where Does PrintScreen Go?

[doug parisian]

Yes silly question but I haven't used a print screen for a long time. 
I've found the print screen key but don't know where it goes or the name 
of the file so I can search!


HELP!

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Re: Looking for accessible GPS App

[doug parisian]

There are so many GPS items which are accessible depending on the 
features you want or need. Apple maps and Google are two free ones.


Damn, $4/$5 ain't a whole pot of money; lunch is likely more expensive, 
or most drinks at a bar, and don't even mention cigarettes and 
government sponsored weed!


On 2023-03-22 12:12 p.m., Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:

Hi Thom, is that app Ariadne good and or better than Blind Square or good maps? 
I have Blind Square but never tried the one you are talking about. I looked it 
up in the app store and it costs $4.99 Just not sure if I would benefit with 
it. Thoughts? Andy and Leroy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for accessible GPS App

And in addition, for $3.99 in app purchases, you can be allowed to share points 
and I’m not sure about roots.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Thomas Frank  wrote:

Hi Terri. Like I mentioned in another post, I recommend “Ariadne GPS.”  You 
will have to use sighted assistance to set up the original route but you can 
add Points of Interest along the way that mark cross walks, streets, doors, 
beginnings of sidewalks and anything else that fits your fancy.  When sidewalks 
don’t line up properly, it’s easy to mark locations on both sides of the street.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com




On Mar 15, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is there an accessible GPS App that I could use with my iPhone?


It doesn't matter so much if it is free, or if I have to pay for it.


I am looking for something that can show me what is around.

But also, a way to know where possible sidewalks are. But I am uncertain as to 
whether or not such a thing exists.


I am wanting to be able to walk to the rec center that is only about a 4th of a 
mile from my home.

However, I don't know if this is even possible.


Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Zoom App Help

[doug parisian]

Edward, I'm keeping this conversation on list in case others have a 
useful contribution; none so far!


Anyway, I registered since I was getting a registration request from my 
Iphone app he last couple of times I used it. It seemed a harmless way 
of avoiding this pestalance and I've had no bad results. In fact, I 
received an email offering me a trial run but as I said earlier, when I 
attempted to run the tests I was asked for a code which I don't have and 
don't know how to get one. Maybe they're being sold on eBay VBG!



On 2023-03-06 12:50 p.m., Edward Przybylek wrote:


Hi Debby & Doug,

Thanks for getting back to me.  I really appreciate your help and 
suggestions.  Doug, would you please tell me how you got the 
information about how to run a fake session with Zoom. Getting some 
practice with the app would be very useful. Again, thanks.  Stay well.


Take care,

Ed Przybylek

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Debby

*Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 12:30 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Zoom App Help

Hi,

I get that message all of the time. I don’t have a current meeting to 
look at for the exact wording, but what I do is to flick up from that 
message and just above it I find something like  “use wifi or cellular 
data.” I double tap on that, and my audio is available. I don’t quite 
understand it, but it works.


I hope that helps!

Debby

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *doug parisian

*Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2023 9:39 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Zoom App Help

Edward, I've recently experienced your problem which proved a total 
embarrassment since one of the requirements of my meeting was 
familiarity with Zoom which I had used several times but not for 
several months. I suspect some updates changed basic settings one of 
which was to turn off certain items by default which were enabled in 
previous versions.


I think I've been able to fix the problem but when I tried to use the 
basic test from Zoom, I was asked for an access code which of course I 
didn't have. I actually registered with Zoom and they sent me an 
invitation to test their service, with no code of any kind included.


Anyway, here's what I did in hopes of fixing my problem for a zoom 
meeting tomorrow. I've sending this to the list in cawe others have a 
solution or experienced the same issues with Zoom.


1 Open zoom and activate the tab at the bottom labelled as "more," it 
will say selected when double tapped.


2 Move below "settings." You might have to swipe around a bit to 
locate the settings.


3. Double tap "meetings."

4 Double tap "mute my microphone" and be sure that is set to off.

I have never had to play around in the Zoom settings before. Prior to 
my most recent effort, Everything just worked when activating the 
provided link in my invitation emails.


I make this noise by rubbing my hind legs together.

On 2023-03-05 4:43 p.m., Edward Przybylek wrote:

Hi all,

I used the Zoom app at the beginning of the pandemic for doctor’s
visits and such but I haven’t really used it since then.  I needed
to use the app a few days ago but ran into a problem I can’t
solve.  Once getting into the app for a particular meeting, I get
a message informing me that I need to enable audio before I can
join the meeting.  I’m told to click a button which takes me to a
screen where I can press another button to enable audio. The
problem is that immediately after tapping the second button, I’m
returned to the previous screen where I’m instructed to enable
audio.  Pressing the button to enable audio simply continues the
same behavior.  Has anyone run into this problem?  If so and
you’ve found a solution, I’d really like to hear how you did it. 
As always, any help is greatly appreciated.  Stay well.

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: Zoom App Help

[doug parisian]

Edward, I've recently experienced your problem which proved a total 
embarrassment since one of the requirements of my meeting was 
familiarity with Zoom which I had used several times but not for several 
months. I suspect some updates changed basic settings one of which was 
to turn off certain items by default which were enabled in previous 
versions.


I think I've been able to fix the problem but when I tried to use the 
basic test from Zoom, I was asked for an access code which of course I 
didn't have. I actually registered with Zoom and they sent me an 
invitation to test their service, with no code of any kind included.


Anyway, here's what I did in hopes of fixing my problem for a zoom 
meeting tomorrow. I've sending this to the list in cawe others have a 
solution or experienced the same issues with Zoom.


1 Open zoom and activate the tab at the bottom labelled as "more," it 
will say selected when double tapped.


2 Move below "settings." You might have to swipe around a bit to locate 
the settings.


3. Double tap "meetings."

4 Double tap "mute my microphone" and be sure that is set to off.

I have never had to play around in the Zoom settings before. Prior to my 
most recent effort, Everything just worked when activating the provided 
link in my invitation emails.


I make this noise by rubbing my hind legs together.

On 2023-03-05 4:43 p.m., Edward Przybylek wrote:


Hi all,

I used the Zoom app at the beginning of the pandemic for doctor’s 
visits and such but I haven’t really used it since then.  I needed to 
use the app a few days ago but ran into a problem I can’t solve.  Once 
getting into the app for a particular meeting, I get a message 
informing me that I need to enable audio before I can join the 
meeting. I’m told to click a button which takes me to a screen where I 
can press another button to enable audio.  The problem is that 
immediately after tapping the second button, I’m returned to the 
previous screen where I’m instructed to enable audio. Pressing the 
button to enable audio simply continues the same behavior.  Has anyone 
run into this problem?  If so and you’ve found a solution, I’d really 
like to hear how you did it.  As always, any help is greatly 
appreciated.  Stay well.


Take care,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[doug parisian]

I see no issue here with the numbers of various types of information and 
orientation apps out there like Blindsquare, goodmaps outdoors, etc. And 
damn, there may even be some folks out there willing to pick up the ball.



On 2023-01-01 7:34 a.m., Mo Khan wrote:

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the 
imminent demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number 
of comments and shares the post got, that I am not the only one who 
was shocked by the news.

Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the 
main reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t 
think very many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, 
which I have to say rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and 
how much we rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually 
works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we 
can get Microsoft to change it’s mind.


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Re: voice ocr?

[doug parisian]

Mich and Richard, sorry for being slow on the reply, got a bit busy.

Anyway, I have used several Apps over the past 10 years and found the 
best overall recognition was done by Voice OCR. I have used the 
Microsoft offering and others which are now in suspended animation since 
Voice OCR reads cards, canned and packaged goods, and messy items the 
best of the bunch. And, I'm not sure why being a student is a strike 
against the developer. I have received any help I requested through the 
support feature of the App.


On 2022-11-23 1:44 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:


Hi Dug I am wondering is Voice OCR a app for the I phone? Or is it a 
setting in jaws? I am running jaws 2023. Many thanks. From Mich.


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*Subject:* Re: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR 
apps available. For reading all required information on banking and 
credit cards, i have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. 
Most OCR I have tried can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; 
Voice OCR has failed me only on one card and I can't so far get entry 
to Aira as an impoverished non-paying member.


Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)

On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with
reading the info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps
like be my eyes or ira to accomplish this but I am wondering if
seeing ai would be recommended or not? I know that this is
sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do this
independently. Many thanks. From Mich.

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Re: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

[doug parisian]

Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR apps 
available. For reading all required information on banking and credit 
cards, i have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. Most OCR 
I have tried can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; Voice OCR has 
failed me only on one card and I can't so far get entry to Aira as an 
impoverished non-paying member.


Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)

On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:


Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with 
reading the info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be 
my eyes or ira to accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai 
would be recommended or not? I know that this is sencitive info and I 
am just wondering what I could do to do this independently. Many 
thanks. From Mich.


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Re: Is this a potential security problem?

[doug parisian]

Actually, I much prefer to cut the finger off then attach it to a key 
chain like those rabbit's feet I used to buy in the mid fifties. Wonder 
what happened to the rest of the rabbit?



On 2022-11-16 5:01 p.m., Christopher Chaltain wrote:


Plus attention awareness is on by default, so this person would have 
to know that blind people tend to turn attention awareness off and 
then be able to snatch your phone away from you without you knowing it 
to keep you from just turning your head. I guess technically touch ID 
also isn’t secure, since someone could hit you over the head and then 
press your finger print to the finger print sensor, which come to 
think of it, I see all the time when reading these spy novels.


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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*Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:41 PM
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*Subject:* Re: Is this a potential security problem?

My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.

It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the 
head, and put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the 
home button.


I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.

And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing 
anything with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The 
screen curtain is always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or 
want to show them something. So, again, good luck to the person who 
could use face ID to unlock my phone only to find a blank screen and 
something jabbering at them.


Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than 
wearing it in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting 
yourself more at risk.


Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin


My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura 
wrote:

Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and
their phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to
prevent the mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up
to their face, and unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and
disappearing with an unlocked phone and access to all the
information contained therein? If a visually impaired person loses
their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can
take the device and just wait around and follow the visually
impaired person without them knowing it, then, when the time is
right, whip out the phone and get it unlocked without the owner
ever even knowing it happened. Might it not be a bad idea to
disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York paranoid?

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Re: How do I get my I Phone to recognize line breaks while swiping through a document

[doug parisian]

Sadly, I don't think you can at present read with line breaks using One 
Drive. You could call Microsoft disability service and hopefully prove 
me wrong and how to fix the problem.is brutal in term


DropBox s of accessibility but if you manually navigate to the dropbox 
directory, you can drop notepad files there and on your Iphone this file 
will  read with line breaks acknowledged when swiping left or right.



    On 2022-11-06 7:05 p.m., bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all,

I am trying to swipe through a document that was created with Notepad 
on my Windows PC.


I’m useing One Drive on my I Phone.  But, when I try to swipe through 
one line at a time.  VO reads at least 4 lines at a time without 
recognizing line breaks.


I don’t remember seeing this before.

I am still using IOS 15.7 on an SE 2^nd generation.

Have I accidently changed a setting some where on my phone?

I appreciate any suggestions,

James B

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Re: problem with deleting text messages

[doug parisian]

Donna, one possible fix when the phone won't talk is to connect to your 
computer. Once Itunes opens and settles, go to your phone and then to 
accessibility options. if they are on, switch then of and on again.


Also, try cursing and swearing!

On 2022-09-15 3:22 p.m., Donna Casteen wrote:

Carolyn, You will need a sighted person to enter your phone passcode for you. Some 
people have reported once they regain access to their phone changing their passcode 
the no voiceover on the lock screen after powering off the phone goes away. Others 
still continue to have the problem with no voiceover speech after powering off 
their phone. I have opted not to use a passcode, this includes face & 
fingerprint ID, which both require a passcode after a power off of the device. 
Hopefully, Apple will release a fix to this very annoying bug in the coming week or 
two.

Donna
  

I have turned my phone off at Shut Down, but am not getting it back on. I 
can't figure out what to do about it.

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regina alvarado
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with deleting text messages

I had this problem with a message to. When I asked about it, they said to turn 
my phone off and back on. I think sometimes things get stuck. Hope this helps 
you.


Reggie Alvarado

On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:



I have a strange problem deleting a message in iOS16.

I recently exchanged a number of messages with my brother who is an Android 
user.

I chose to delete the conversation in the usual way.  However, the last message 
I sent to him remained on my phone.  I have tried to delete this individual 
message and I am told that it will be deleted from all devices.  I confirm its 
deletion but it simply cannot be deleted.  No matter what I do I cannot remove 
it.

I have tried turning of Messages in iCloud, restarting my iPhone but it remains 
on my device.  I can remove it from my Apple Watch but not from my iPhone.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 15 Sep 2022, at 15:36, regina alvarado  wrote:





I think I misunderstood you. If a message comes in and it’s not in your 
contacts, it will then ask you if you want to delete it and send it to another 
box so that you don’t have to put up with spam. if someone knew contacts me 
that it’s not in my contacts and it’s not spam I automatically put them in my 
contacts. That’s the way to clear that particular problem off.


Reggie Alvarado


On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Rena  wrote:





In the previous version, it didn’t ask me this question. I just deleted 
them.

Now, besides having to delete one by one, I have to tap several times to 
get rid of each message. Perhaps there is a way in settings, but I don’t know 
much yet.

 



 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with deleting text messages

 


Rena, my understanding about all that is that it will ask you that only if 
they are not in your contacts. If they are in your contacts, it shouldn’t ask 
you that.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!






On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

 


After the update, every time I delete a text message, it says

You can report this conversation as junk …

I click don’t report

And I have to tap on don’t report again.

 


Is there any way to eliminate this report or don’t report issue?

 


Rena

 


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Re: New Siri sound

[doug parisian]

Well gentle readers, there seems a simple solution  to Siri sounds which 
could come from apple.


In the siri section, we need a choice between the old and new siri 
sounds. Seems to me that would address a wide variety of audio concerns



On 2022-09-13 9:40 a.m., Carolyn wrote:

I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I got 
questions answered.

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Julie Dawson
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Subject: Re: New Siri sound

The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 1:47 PM
Subject: New Siri sound



I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss,
and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.


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Re: kindle

[doug parisian]

I think I understand the difficulties some are having with Kindle.

Specifically, in order to navigate in Kindle for specific text elements 
such as characters, words and lines, one must first select the desired 
unit with the rote and then swipe and down.


In apps such as Safari, one can move freely in any direction on the 
screen regardless of any text unit setting on the rotar. In these cases, 
the roter is used only to skip to a desired web page element like 
graphics, forms, visited and non-visited links, heading etc. Also 
included of course is screen recognition and describe images, and of 
course speaking rate.


I think I said what I know I meant.

On 2022-08-13 4:28 p.m., kevinwass...@gmail.com wrote:

I have had issues with the Kindle with Voice-over. If I get Voice-over to read 
a Kindle  to read a book. I can not stop it and swipe to the left or right to 
read the next or previous line. Therefor, I like to have my Braille Display 
connected to my iPhone to read books on  the Kindle app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

A three finger swipe to the left will go to the next page, and a three finger 
swipe to the right will go to the previous page. A two finger swipe down will 
read continuously from that page to the end of the book. You can just touch the 
screen with two fingers and that will pause the speech

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Afik Souffir  wrote:

When I open a book on the iphone, swiping doesn't do anything.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Tali Sarnetzky
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

Sure thing. Let me know if I can help further.


On 8/13/22, Afik Souffir  wrote:
Yes, I just saw it and started my 30 days free trial.

As I see now, its not come with amazon prime.


Thanks Tali.
Afik

,


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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

Not at first, although there is something called Kindle Unlimited,
but I think that comes with amazon prime. You can buy books for different 
prices.
Some are very cheap.


On 8/13/22, Afik Souffir  wrote:
Did Kindle require a subscription?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Tali Sarnetzky
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

Not that I can recall. It will use the Voice Over on your phone. If
you want, I can also share a link for a dropbox copy of the Kindle
app for the PC. Very easy to use. You tab through to the library ,
then choose the book and enter on it, then you tab to the table of
contents if it exists or to the beginning of the book.

On 8/13/22, Afik Souffir  wrote:

Hi Tali,

I'm talking about the Kindle app.
There are settings I need to change, when downloading at the first time?

Thanks much.
Afik.


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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 11:37 AM
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Subject: Re: kindle

Very accessible. The software for the computer, the iPhone and the
Kindle tablets are very user friendly. If you buy a tablet, you
will need help turning on the Voiceview feature, which is like
Voice Over at first, but after that, it stays on.
I also recommend using a wireless keyboard with it.


On 8/13/22, Afik Souffir  wrote:

Hi,

I'm intressted to start using Kindle on various platforms,
including iphone.

Is kindle accessible to us?

Plus, I'm having CP in my left hand, so I hope this app doesn't
required strange gestures.

Thanks much.
Afik.

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Re: Updates Please For accessible air fryers And Thermometers

[doug parisian]

The info seems a good start. However, if it is the same smart fryer I 
had just before Xmas, I returned it since I could not get it to work 
with Vesync. Perhaps if I could have turned the unit on by some remote 
app, it might have been satisfactory. I didn't find any Alexa info 
during my last purchase.


BTW, I've used Iphones since 2012 and still have the Instant pot which 
was almost made useless by the neglect of the manufacturer. Pressure 
from consumers I suspect caused them to continue support. However, I 
haven't checked the app store to see if the App is still available in 
the app store. However, my present instant pot app still works with IOS 
15.4.1. Not sure what will happen when apple releases subsequent updates.


Perhaps things in regards to accessibility for blind folks have improved.

On 2022-04-29 2:16 p.m., 'A Robledo' via VIPhone wrote:

I recently purchased through Amazon a Kasari Smart air fryer. It comes with an 
app for the iPhone and also you can give it commands through Alexa.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2022, at 12:51 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

Yes fans and foes, I know these items have been previously discussed but I 
would like to learn if there are any updates for IOS accessibility.

As the subject says, I am looking for both Air Friers and Thermometers. 
Specifically, I would be happier with an Air fryer combo i.e. with toaster oven 
and/or slow cooker etc.

For thermometers, I would like cooking, environmental, and health. Throw in 
scales as well.

BTW, I am NOT interested in specific blindness products such as infrared or 
stand-alone devices. I like the additional features offered by IOS devices like 
past record charts, recipes, etc.

I think I said what I know I meant.

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Need Recent Info on IOS Accessible Air Friers And Thermometers

[doug parisian]

Sorry if this message was already sent; my email is having a few hiccups!

Yes fans and foes, I know these items have been previously discussed but 
I would like to learn if there are any updates for IOS accessibility.


As the subject says, I am looking for both Air Friers and Thermometers. 
Specifically, I would be happier with an Air fryer combo i.e. with 
toaster oven and/or slow cooker etc.


For thermometers, I would like cooking, environmental, and health. Throw 
in scales as well.


BTW, I am NOT interested in specific blindness products such as infrared 
or stand-alone devices. I like the additional features offered by IOS 
devices like past record charts, recipes, etc.


I've Written this message very slow in case you cannot read very quick.

On 2022-04-29 1:47 p.m., Michael Feir wrote:
Thanks Richard. We'll see how people like it. I've got a couple of new 
formats including a BRL and BRF one to get all linked correctly. Nice 
to see people steping up like this.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 11:46 AM Richard Turner 
 wrote:


OK, I need a second cup of coffee, yes, iOS 15 is included.

Great!

Looks good.

Richard

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 8:44 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a
Totally Blind User

Michael,

I noticed in the changes section the line:

“Apple has taken a rather momentous step with VoiceOver in iOS14.”

So, does your guide not talk about iOS 15?  Or should I have read on.

Thanks,

Richard

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
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*Subject:* Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
Blind User

The Second Edition of Personal Power

Hello everyone. It's been a long and strange couple of years. A
whole lot of people out there seem to have found the first
edition, with all of its many imperfections, to be of some help.
Given the very positive feedback and so many earnest hopes
expressed that I would update this guide, I have indeed done so.

As before, the guide is completely free to all. I encourage you to
share it with whoever you wish. Provided the guide remains
unaltered and freely given, I have no issue with this. If anyone
is willing to make the guide available in other formats, such as
DAISY, Braille, etc, you have my sincere thanks for making that
effort. I would request you share that effort with me so I can
make the files available to everyone along with the other versions
of the guide.

I have placed copies of the second edition of the guide in four
different formats. For most readers, I recommend the EPUB version.
It has an interactive table of contents and should be the best in
most cases. Many people requested a version in Microsoft Word, so
I've put the DOCX version in the directory. I've also created a
PDF version thanks to that option being available in Pages. It
works well in the Voice Dream Reader app, but I think EPUB is
still better. The final version is a plain text Markdown format
version of the guide. In it, there is sadly no table of contents.
However, you can search for headings denoted by one or more number
signs or hashes. This could be helpful for people who find that
the EPUB version fails to work for them. I also hope that people
will find ways to use this, or the other files, in the creation of
versions with active tables of contents, or other advantageous
format aids.

For ease of use, I have place these files in a shared Google Drive
folder. I hope this method of distribution will prove less
troublesome for people than prior attempts. The link to the folder is:

_https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-1GAc2-HM1drA0GEj4fEBgQxIh4bHSKC_

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Updates Please For accessible air fryers And Thermometers

[doug parisian]

Yes fans and foes, I know these items have been previously discussed but 
I would like to learn if there are any updates for IOS accessibility.


As the subject says, I am looking for both Air Friers and Thermometers. 
Specifically, I would be happier with an Air fryer combo i.e. with 
toaster oven and/or slow cooker etc.


For thermometers, I would like cooking, environmental, and health. Throw 
in scales as well.


BTW, I am NOT interested in specific blindness products such as infrared 
or stand-alone devices. I like the additional features offered by IOS 
devices like past record charts, recipes, etc.


I think I said what I know I meant.

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Re: Apple Sends Me Message in French, FW: App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

[doug parisian]

Well gosh darn, you must be Canadian too. I get all messages in both 
French and English from amazon.


At least they don't assume that all Canadians say "good day eh."


On 2021-12-31 7:05 a.m., Fazil M. wrote:


Hi, Group.

I don’t know why, Apple started sending me messages in French only.

I called Apple Accessibility yesterday. They wanted me go to 
icloud.com and to account setting. Selected language in Account 
Settings was English. She said I don’t know why this is happening when 
English is selected in Account settings.


Could someone tell me how to fix it, please?

Secondly,

What is the following French message is about, please? Anything 
important in it that I need to know?


Thanks!

*From:*Find My 
*Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:29 PM
*To:* mfa...@outlook.com
*Subject:* App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone


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App Lacak telah dinonaktifkan pada Muhammad’s iPhone

Jika app Lacak dinonaktifkan, perangkat ini tidak lagi dapat 
ditemukan, mengaktifkan Mode Hilang, atau menghapus konten dari jarak 
jauh menggunakan icloud.com/find  atau 
app Lacak.


Selain itu, ID Apple dan kata sandi Anda tidak akan lagi diperlukan 
oleh seseorang untuk menghapus, mengaktifkan kembali, dan menggunakan 
iPhone Anda.


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Re: Communicating In French?

[doug parisian]

And, it's all your fault, serves you right for being Canadian. I'm 
Canadian too eh! I get messages from amazon in both French and English.


On 2021-12-28 3:07 p.m., Fazil M. wrote:


I am not sure what I have done somewhere, now Apple sends me messages 
in French, how can I change this, please?


Thanks!

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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[doug parisian]

Malcolm, I have been experience the problems as you describe for at 
least a month. I have an Iphone XR with IO 15.2. The only thing I 
haven't tried yet is scratching behind my left ear with my right hind leg.



On 2021-12-23 7:01 p.m., Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS 
you’re using please?


I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and 
establish a cause.


I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased 
all content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in 
Recovery Mode and updated via iTunes but the problem remains.


I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is 
is not a geographical problem.


I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these 
vary between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of 
tracks. Some tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even 
downloading the tracks to the iPhone does not change the outcome so 
presumably it’s not a network issue.


I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those 
that do not, but I don’t think that would help.


The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It 
is only when one track follows another the problem is apparent.

Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list 
members I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts 
to help me track down this issue.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something 
like “Do I Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track 
without pausing or touching the phone. What you mentioned did not 
happen to me.


enn and Kumi

On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an 
album sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two 
follows on from the end of track one  as it would when listening to 
the album in its intirety..  If you’ve time, start the album playing 
at track one, then when that track ends and track two begins you may 
hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached to an earlier message.


Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further 
help, it’s much appreciated.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not 
hear the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. 
I was just playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything 
else I can try for you?


Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when 
playing many albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.


This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the 
albums on.


If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, 
three, and so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when 
a track begins.  So when say track one ends and track two has 
started there is this pause in playback.


One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without 
success.  I have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the 
problem persists.  If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it 
plays without issue.


Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if 
they experience the pause I describe when track two begins?


Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

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Re: Looking for feature-Rich Voiceover Air Fryer

[doug parisian]

Barry, thanks, I had considered the casori but the Proscenic had a high 
number of reviews with 4.6 rating on Amazon. I will, just to satisfy 
myself, try pairing with the Vesync app though I expect no results. 
Vesync looks almost too multi-purpose to cover all brands and Proscenic 
is comparatively new on Amazon though not so in other than north 
American markets.


If by some fluke all functions of the Proscenic are supported, I'll need 
to return it to Amazon since the Basket lock will not release from the 
containing drawer.


BTW, I think we met many many moons ago when Terry Green lived in 
Winnipeg, so you must be really really old! I haven't aged since that time.


On 2021-11-15 9:45 a.m., Barry Abbott wrote:

``Hi Doug. I would give VESync a try. I use `it  with my Casori Air Fryer  and 
find it to be accessible with VoiceOver. I think it is a replacement for the 
iDevices app.  ,Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone


On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:58 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

I purchased a Proscenic Air Fryer only to discover that the updated Proscenic 
App was not accessible. I had checked the app BEFORE purchasing which, as far 
as I could discern without the Fryer was accessible. The newer version wouldn't 
even let me register using Voiceover. Further, much of the documentation 
appears to be a PDF scanned image which, if the App was voiceover compliant was 
not a huge barrier. I could probably use some OCR tool to access the 
instructions and there are lots of recipes on the web and Utube.

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Looking for feature-Rich Voiceover Air Fryer

[doug parisian]

I purchased a Proscenic Air Fryer only to discover that the updated 
Proscenic App was not accessible. I had checked the app BEFORE 
purchasing which, as far as I could discern without the Fryer was 
accessible. The newer version wouldn't even let me register using 
Voiceover. Further, much of the documentation appears to be a PDF 
scanned image which, if the App was voiceover compliant was not a huge 
barrier. I could probably use some OCR tool to access the instructions 
and there are lots of recipes on the web and Utube.


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Re: My Siri Isn't Working

[doug parisian]

Well well, there seems quite a run on big bad Siri being uncooperative. 
I experienced the same variety of issues a couple of weeks ago and a 
call both to accessibility and general support confirmed that all my 
settings were correct for effective use of Siri. Seems that the problems 
are occurring in specific areas; I wonder how many servers, relays, or 
whatever are supporting queen Siri?



On 2021-11-09 6:26 p.m., Esther Levegnale wrote:
well, guess what! My Siri started working again. I am keeping my 
fingers crossed. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 9, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

That's pretty weird, then, about Siri not working. If it happens 
again, you could call Apple Accessibility.


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an answer to one of your questions again, yes, I checked Wi-Fi and 
cellular data. All were OK. Esther



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   On Nov 8, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



   Esther, are you on the net? I know that sounds like a stupid 
question, and I guess you checked Wi-Fi and Cellular Data?


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   Subject: My Siri Isn't Working

   Hi, Everyone,

   The subject says it all!  For the past couple of days, my Siri 
isn't working.  It did start to work this morning, and I thought I 
was okay.  However, it's not working again and I'm in a quandary as 
to what I should do to fix this.  Any suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated.  I am in the market to buy a new phone, anyway, but in 
the meantime, I would like to use Siri until I do get a new phone.


   Thanks so much.

   Esther


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Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

[doug parisian]

There have been so many messages on this subject that someone may have 
already presented this solution which works very well for me.  With my 
phone set to auto answer, I need do nothing before the call is answered. 
This is awesome when my dog takes me for a walk, or if I'm in the tub 
with my model Titanic. If I'm not able to take the call, I simply shout 
either, "I'll call back,' or if it's a marketer, "I already have 3 of 
those." To set up auto answer:

Open settings and go to accessibility/touch
once in the "touch" area, wipe right to auto-answer calls and double 
tap. If you decide to turn on auto answer calls, the next items allow 
either a direct edit of time or you can choose to increase or decrease 
the length of time before auto answer picks up.

I've written this message very slow in case you cannot read very quick.


On 2021-11-09 4:57 p.m., Carolyn wrote:

That is what I did, Richard. Yes, there was a slight delay, but at least it 
worked.

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

When I did it, I simply said "hey Siri, answer."
There was a little delay, but it answered.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
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Outman
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

Coming in late as well. Tried to experiment with Hey Siri on my 8 Plus running 
15.1, but couldn’t get it to work when answering a call. Is there a setting I 
need to adjust?
Bill Outman


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 8, 2021, at 9:45 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Oh yeah forgot that,

I jus tpress a button on my headphones

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Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:36 pm
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You have to two-finger double-tap, unless you hit right on answer call. Anyway, 
Hay Siri did it today.

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 5:37 PM
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Hey Folks,



Sorry coming in to this late,



I know that some countries get pretty cold in winter,



But if it’s that cold you have to wear gloves

Isn’t it then getting to cold for your phone to be out in the wintery air?



I just cut the tips off my polypro gloves but then the coldest we get is may be 
0 C in which case kiwis stay in doors rather than going out and getting cold.



Well sensible ones do anyway.



Or just cut the tips of your gloves fingers out so you can touch the screen 
with the tip or pad of the finger and answer the phone.



You would only have to do it with one digit



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 5:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?



What do I do, if a call comes, and I have gloves on.



I get it, the simple answer – remove gloves. But, I was in the grocery store, 
had to dig phone out, then get off gloves? Well, I am just wondering if it can 
be done, answer the phone with gloves on?



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Re: screen time query

[doug parisian]

Alan, I have a different view of the value of screen time. First, it 
only shows once a week so for me, no deal at all. In fact, it is 
educational and revealing. It seems that I am spending about 2 hours per 
day which I suspect may be seriously modest. When I'm not feeling lazy, 
I'll adjust appropriate settings on both my Iphones to get a more 
accurate reading. I use one phone as an Ipad.


I don't play games on my devices. I do use a podcast app, a couple of 
GPS APPS, a broadcast receiver, a couple of book type programs, email, 
Safari, recipes, Amazon for shopping, Flip for Groceries, Flipp PC 
optimum and PC Xpress (shopping), instapot--and I know I missed 
something along the way. and yes, my phone rarely leaves me for any 
reason, even while in bed. Hey, who wants to get out of bed at 2 AM just 
to read a book, listen to a podcast, check the weather, etc.


On 2021-10-31 12:28 p.m., Alan Lemly wrote:
I expect you have screen time turned on in Settings, Screen time. I 
find that screen time report useless so I have screen time turned off 
on my iPhone.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
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*Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2021 10:24:42 AM
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*Subject:* screen time query

Hi

I’m getting note messages on my iphone saying screen time, can someone 
explain to me how these messages are created?


Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[doug parisian]

Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and 
there is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. 
I have tried removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even 
reinstalling with the same results.


So, the obvious question--anyone else having this problem?

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Help with My New Google Mini

[doug parisian]

    Well, for the very very few times in my little life, I won a Google 
mini. I could likely scan most of the instructions but would be happier 
for a web or text version of the manual.


I did finger some of it out including downloading the Google home app. I 
would prefer reading instructions on a different device so I could 
implement then as I go using either the home app or Mini features as 
directed.


BTW, this mini is shaped like those chocolate cushion-shaped cookies 
with the goo inside.



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Re: Looking for recommendations for a tripod that can hold an iPhone XR

[doug parisian]

Cristobal, I think I might have found the perfect answer for your tripod 
stand at what I think is a reasonable price:


Brand: LIUGAST

• Wide compatibility - this ergonomic gooseneck tablet holder, 
compatible with iPad Pro 9.7 10.5 11 12.9, iPad mini 2 3 4, iPad 2 3 4 
5, iPad 9.7 2018/ 2017, iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPad Air 4, iPhone 11, 11 
Pro, 11 Pro Max, iphone 12/12 pro/12 pro max , iphone 6 7 8, iphone X, 
Xs Max, Galaxy Tab a 10.1 10.5 9.7 8, Samsung Galaxy Tab s 8 9.7, 
Samsung Galaxy Tab E 9.6,Fire 7, Fire HD 8, Fire HD 10, Lenovo, Nintendo 
Switch.
• Perfect for many scenes - Free your hands and make you focus on what 
you are doing, especially when you are busy in the bedroom, kitchen, gym 
or office.
• Very convenient - The tablet holder is good for reading and viewing 
while free your hands. It raises the tablet to your eye level or any 
other height you want.It can also be disassembled and packed into a 
16.9in*7.9in tote bag, which weighs about 1kg and is very easy to carry.
• 360 degree rotation - The tablet holder can be rotated 360 degree, 
making it easy to switch your tablet from portrait mode to landscape 
mode.Up to 67 in - The top can be adjusted to 66 inches, perfect for 
people who are 6.2 feet tall.
• 100% HAPPINESS GUARANTEED: 100% satisfaction guaranteed or your money 
back. warranty against manufacturer defects. Just give us a chance to 
serve you, you will love the high-quality products and fantastic price. 
Total risk-free purchase


Canadian Price: $33.10

By the language, I suspect it may be made in China.  This is a real 
slick package.


BTW, you will find several choices from this manufacturer, LIUGASTon 
amazon; the above info is the one I purchased.


On 2021-09-26 12:45 p.m., Cristobal Muñoz wrote:


Hello List,

As the subject line states, I’m looking for a tripod that can hold my 
XR. I do have a tripod that in a pinch can do the job, but I got that 
for my old SE back in the day. This now means that my XR is a bit too 
top-heavy to reliably use it.


If anyone’s using a tripod that can comfortably hold an XR or the 
bigger iPhone models, I’d appreciate your input. Don’t need something 
like a selfi-stick or any sort of Bluetooth connectivity. Just 
something to securely hold a larger iPhone to FaceTime and whatnot.


Thanks

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Re: Gasping panting Alex, YECH! If human readers in any of my subscribed services made all those assumed extra human noises, I would be screaming for a refund!

[doug parisian]

Yes Richard, noticed that after it was sent. Reminds me of being toldmy 
fly was open but I had both hands full at the time.



On 2021-09-07 7:21 p.m., Richard Turner wrote:


Doug,

Your message ended up in the subject field.

I just thought you may want to know that.

Richard

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Of *doug parisian

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Gasping panting Alex, YECH! If human readers in any of my 
subscribed services made all those assumed extra human noises, I would 
be screaming for a refund!


On 2021-09-07 7:10 p.m., Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Alex I thought was developed by a company called Nuonce which
apple then purchased

And I believe added to

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
 <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: the Alex voice

Alex was developed by Apple so I highly doubt it will ever be
available on Android.

Then of course I believe Eloquence can be used on Android phones
and that would be awesome although for me personally it certainly
is not enough incentive to switch.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *hshaneclark
*Sent:* September 7, 2021 6:32 AM
*To:* viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
*Subject:* Re: the Alex voice

Hi ,

Just curious, can this particular voice be used with Android? I've
heard it a few times and like it myself, would be nice to have on
my phone if there was a way.

Shane.

On Sep 7, 2021 at 9:09 AM, Devin Prater
mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, because he sounds the most natural, as well as being the
most responsive. I like him around 55 to 65%.

Devin Prater

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 10:56 PM Casey Wollner
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Hi are any of you using the Alex voice on your phone?

And if so what made you select it over all the other
voices that you can use on your iPhone?

Also what is the speed rate you find that he reads the
best where you can understand him?

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Gasping panting Alex, YECH! If human readers in any of my subscribed services made all those assumed extra human noises, I would be screaming for a refund!

[doug parisian]

On 2021-09-07 7:10 p.m., Simon A Fogarty wrote:


Alex I thought was developed by a company called Nuonce which apple 
then purchased


And I believe added to

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Sieghard Weitzel

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: the Alex voice

Alex was developed by Apple so I highly doubt it will ever be 
available on Android.


Then of course I believe Eloquence can be used on Android phones and 
that would be awesome although for me personally it certainly is not 
enough incentive to switch.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *hshaneclark

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*Subject:* Re: the Alex voice

Hi ,

Just curious, can this particular voice be used with Android? I've 
heard it a few times and like it myself, would be nice to have on my 
phone if there was a way.


Shane.

On Sep 7, 2021 at 9:09 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, because he sounds the most natural, as well as being the most
responsive. I like him around 55 to 65%.

Devin Prater

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 10:56 PM Casey Wollner mailto:cwoll...@wi.rr.com>> wrote:

Hi are any of you using the Alex voice on your phone?

And if so what made you select it over all the other voices
that you can use on your iPhone?

Also what is the speed rate you find that he reads the best
where you can understand him?

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Re: Transferring from Iphone 8 to Iphone XR

[doug parisian]

Sieghard, As mentioned earlier, I've set up several Iphones but never 
had one which used the contact message. On my Iphone 8, I purposefully 
changed the setting in camera from Video to Photo when the first contact 
didn't work, assuming it might have been the Video setting. Nothing 
changed when I set it to Photo so that wasn't the problem.  My first 
attempt might have been sloppy as the Swiping instead of the button is 
new to me. I now have it practised and mastered.


Having accomplished this mastery, I decided to try again after starting 
from scratch and setting up the XR as a new phone; still no luck.  If 
one only gets one chance despite starting from scratch, I consider this 
a serious bug.


On 2021-08-27 6:15 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

First of all, there is no need to open the Camera app.
When you get to the point where you have to scan the screen, it's the screen on 
the new device which you have to scan with the old device. Here is what is says 
in the Apple article about Quick Start:

Turn on your new device and place it near your current device. The Quick Start 
screen appears on your current device and offers the option of using your Apple 
ID to set up your new device. Make sure that it's the Apple ID that you want to 
use, then tap Continue. If you don't see the option to continue on your current 
device, make sure that Bluetooth is turned on.
Wait for an animation to appear on your new device. Hold your current device 
over the new device, then center the animation in the viewfinder. Wait for a 
message that says Finish on New [Device].
If you can't use your current device's camera, tap Authenticate Manually, then 
follow the steps that appear.

Here is the link to the entire article, I have done this with my iPhone 11 as 
well as my wife's iPhone 11 Pro when we upgraded from the iPhone 8 we both had 
before and it worked just fine.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216


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It sounds like you already went through the initial setup process, transferring 
from one phone to the next has to be done almost at the very beginning of the 
initial setup, I don't think you can do it after the fact.

-Original Message-
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Sent: August 27, 2021 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring from Iphone 8 to Iphone XR

First, I'm no stranger to both setting up a new Iphone, or successfully 
transferring all data from one phone to another using Itunes.

The Iphone XR is the first one I've used without a home button. I called apple 
disability support to save me time digging through the apple site and Iphone 
manual. So, I learned how to invoke SIRI with the side button and the swipe up 
from the bottom etc to bring up desired screens.

However, I get no response when holding my new Iphone face over the old Iphone 
also face up no matter how I move the new phone to get focus from the front 
camera of the old Iphone. What am I doing wrong? I've already tried cursing and 
swearing!

Hope that all makes sense?

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Re: Transferring from Iphone 8 to Iphone XR

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Alan, I got no further with the process than the info on my XR telling 
me to bring both Iphones together. I never got to the point of being 
enter any info regardless of moving the XR both above the face and back 
of the Iphone 8. I can of course restore manually using Itunes and the 
most recent Iphone 8 backup. I wanted to see if the process worked; 
obviously I'm missing a step. I had my Camera set to movie and I changed 
it to


photo On 2021-08-27 4:52 p.m., Alan Lemly wrote:

Doug,

It's been awhile since I've set up a new iPhone and transferred content from an 
old device to a new device which it sounds like what you're trying to do. I 
thought during the setup process that Voiceover was pretty clear what needed to 
be done when you got to that step. What versions of iOS are running on your two 
devices? I'll let someone else who has more recently transferred content from 
one device to another during the setup process comment on where that step 
happens.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Transferring from Iphone 8 to Iphone XR

First, I'm no stranger to both setting up a new Iphone, or successfully 
transferring all data from one phone to another using Itunes.

The Iphone XR is the first one I've used without a home button. I called apple 
disability support to save me time digging through the apple site and Iphone 
manual. So, I learned how to invoke SIRI with the side button and the swipe up 
from the bottom etc to bring up desired screens.

However, I get no response when holding my new Iphone face over the old Iphone 
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swearing!

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Transferring from Iphone 8 to Iphone XR

[doug parisian]

First, I'm no stranger to both setting up a new Iphone, or successfully 
transferring all data from one phone to another using Itunes.


The Iphone XR is the first one I've used without a home button. I called 
apple disability support to save me time digging through the apple site 
and Iphone manual. So, I learned how to invoke SIRI with the side button 
and the swipe up from the bottom etc to bring up desired screens.


However, I get no response when holding my new Iphone face over the old 
Iphone also face up no matter how I move the new phone to get focus from 
the front camera of the old Iphone. What am I doing wrong? I've already 
tried cursing and swearing!


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Instapot APP ALIVE AND WELL!!!

[doug parisian]

Yes, it's true, I just got an update for the instapot APP on my Iphone 8 
using the latest IO release 14.7.  Guess the instapot gang may have 
taken quite a beating over their unfortunate error of their ways. I 
doubt whether an angry bunch of blind apple folks alone tipped the 
balance. Maybe someone could check out the instapot social media links 
to see if they took a serious beating for their mistake. It would put a 
song in my heart to hear how David slew Goliath!


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Re: Sennheiser Connect accessibility

[doug parisian]

Sieghard, strange how some folks actually missed my original question 
which was of course about software and not any reference to hardware 
quality. I did in fact choose the particular model of Sennheiser for all 
the reasons you stated in your two messages; you saved me a lot of hard 
work!. And, there is another reason; I'm chancing purchasing a reduced 
price model from the Amazon warehouse. The original price for the 
Sennheiser was $370.44, warehouse price $245.85. I have already proven 
the Amazon "easy return" policy, having been a happy customer since 
2012. Muy second close choice was in fact the Anker Q35.



On 2021-07-11 10:50 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

And that is exactly the problem, you say " one review I heard, was they don't have 
very loud volume", but while that person may have rthought the volume wasn't loud 
enough it is probably just fine for most others and in any case, blasting your ears with 
overly loud music or whatever from any headset is not very good for you in the long run 
and sound quality is not determined by volume. What sets apart a truly good headset or 
speaker is whether it still sounds good at a not so loud volume. Anker just as TripIt 
makes a decent product for a relatively cheap price, but there is typically a reason why 
somebody who can afford it will spend 5 or 6 times the amount what one of these less 
expensive products costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sennheiser Connect accessibility

Well Doug, one review I heard, was they don't have very loud volume.
You are correct in that you can easily return them.  I hope you enjoy them.  I 
personally wouldn't be getting a pair of your sanheiser headphones.

On 7/10/21, doug parisian  wrote:

Joshua, thanks for the feedback but you obviously don't own the
Sennheiser I am considering. We must have different amazons because I
have read bad reviews on Anker as well as high praise for both.  And
hey, anything is better than the beats Studio I mistakenly purchased.
Oh yes, they have most impressive head banger bass but that's about all.

Anyway, if I don't like them, returns are real easy on Amazon so I
have nothing to loose. I did purchase an Anker speaker which was truly
dreadful and should have been returned.



On 2021-07-10 6:41 p.m., Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Doug, I wouldn't get your headphones by Senheiser if I were you.  I
just checked them out on amazon and they got very bad reviews.  I've
got a lot of bluetooth noise canceling headphones, and I wouldn't get
them.  I highly recommend the anker life q35 headphones.  The life q
35 headphones get up to 40 hours of battery life and the soundcore
app is very accessible with voice over.  The life q35 headphones also
use usbc whereas your Sanheiser headphones use micro USB.

On 7/10/21, doug parisian  wrote:

Well gentle readers, I think I might be buying the Sennheiser PXC
550-II Wireless – NoiseGard Adaptive Noise Cancelling, Bluetooth
Headphone with Touch Sensitive Control and 30-Hour Battery Life
(that's likely more than anyone wants to know and I'll never commit
the whole thing to
memory.) Anyway, I downloaded the Sennheiser Connect APP for my Iphone.
This app needs a supported Sennheiser device to open up it's
features so I couldn't go beyone the first intro screens.  I was
required to check the usual items agreeing to the license, terms of
privacy and blah blah blah. While maybe not a bitg deal, I smelled
the faint scent of a skunk not knowing for sure whether the boxes
were checked or not. Fortunately, if they are checked. the accept
button states being not dimmed and it works. The App only gets a 2
out of five rating on the App store; I haven't yet read any of the reviews.

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[doug parisian]

Joshua, thanks for the feedback but you obviously don't own the 
Sennheiser I am considering. We must have different amazons because I 
have read bad reviews on Anker as well as high praise for both.  And 
hey, anything is better than the beats Studio I mistakenly purchased. Oh 
yes, they have most impressive head banger bass but that's about all.


Anyway, if I don't like them, returns are real easy on Amazon so I have 
nothing to loose. I did purchase an Anker speaker which was truly 
dreadful and should have been returned.




On 2021-07-10 6:41 p.m., Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Doug, I wouldn't get your headphones by Senheiser if I were you.  I
just checked them out on amazon and they got very bad reviews.  I've
got a lot of bluetooth noise canceling headphones, and I wouldn't get
them.  I highly recommend the anker life q35 headphones.  The life q
35 headphones get up to 40 hours of battery life and the soundcore app
is very accessible with voice over.  The life q35 headphones also use
usbc whereas your Sanheiser headphones use micro USB.

On 7/10/21, doug parisian  wrote:

Well gentle readers, I think I might be buying the Sennheiser PXC 550-II
Wireless – NoiseGard Adaptive Noise Cancelling, Bluetooth Headphone with
Touch Sensitive Control and 30-Hour Battery Life (that's likely more
than anyone wants to know and I'll never commit the whole thing to
memory.) Anyway, I downloaded the Sennheiser Connect APP for my Iphone.
This app needs a supported Sennheiser device to open up it's features so
I couldn't go beyone the first intro screens.  I was required to check
the usual items agreeing to the license, terms of privacy and blah blah
blah. While maybe not a bitg deal, I smelled the faint scent of a skunk
not knowing for sure whether the boxes were checked or not. Fortunately,
if they are checked. the accept button states being not dimmed and it
works. The App only gets a 2 out of five rating on the App store; I
haven't yet read any of the reviews.

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Sennheiser Connect accessibility

[doug parisian]

Well gentle readers, I think I might be buying the Sennheiser PXC 550-II 
Wireless – NoiseGard Adaptive Noise Cancelling, Bluetooth Headphone with 
Touch Sensitive Control and 30-Hour Battery Life (that's likely more 
than anyone wants to know and I'll never commit the whole thing to 
memory.) Anyway, I downloaded the Sennheiser Connect APP for my Iphone. 
This app needs a supported Sennheiser device to open up it's features so 
I couldn't go beyone the first intro screens.  I was required to check 
the usual items agreeing to the license, terms of privacy and blah blah 
blah. While maybe not a bitg deal, I smelled the faint scent of a skunk 
not knowing for sure whether the boxes were checked or not. Fortunately, 
if they are checked. the accept button states being not dimmed and it 
works. The App only gets a 2 out of five rating on the App store; I 
haven't yet read any of the reviews.


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Re: Insta pot

[doug parisian]

Well gentle readers: I have 3 older iphones which will not accept the 
most recent updates. I am using an Iphone 8 which does accept the 
updates but of course is no longer friendly to instapot.


And boy, do I have a deal for you-all, maybe!  I am willing to give a 
sad instapot owner one of the oldie mouldier phones set up as a new Iphone.


Sadly, I have no ink for my printer and have no intention to replace the 
cartridges; I might need to print something once or twice a year.


Here's the thing! To get one of these relics you need to send an 
addressed and stamped padded envelop to me. Not sure of postal cost for 
the phone? Five bucks should cover it. This might not be so good for 
folks other than Canadians and possibly US folks. I get to keep the 
change and American exchange, my tip.


On 2021-06-08 1:35 p.m., Penny Reeder wrote:

Unfortunately, it is not accessible, and the company has no plans to upgrade 
the app. They currently still sell a WiFi-controlled model, but it gets less 
than stellar reviews for accessibility, and the company is not even 
recommending that model to current shoppers. It made me very sad to send my 
bluetooth IP home with

  My sighted daughter. Of course, i am happy she can use it. But, i am very 
unhappy about not having a useable pressure cooker. PennySent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

Yes

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2021, at 10:51, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:

Good morning everyone,

I was wondering if the Insta pot is still accessible with the iPhone app. If 
so, which models? Thank you in advance.

Lynda

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Re: Bad sound from the top speaker on my iPhone 8

[Doug Parisian]

Marty, first speaker designed for the earpiece has less audio quality than the 
speaker on the bottom of your phone. I would first want to take my phone over 
to in authorized service depot to see if this speaker simply needs to be 
cleaned. I had a problem with my main speaker on my iPhone 8 and I took it into 
the Apple store and got it cleaned for free since it didn’t need replacing. HTH

Sent from my iPhone, Siri, and my lips

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Can the speaker on the top of my iPhone 8 be replaced and what would the cost 
for this be?
Thanks
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Re: Call recording apps

[doug parisian]

Wasn't there a device at one time with a suction cup one could stick on 
a specific part of the phone, like the receiver to record a phone call.  
I recall in my distant dark past having one though I preferred to attach 
alligator clips to a part of the phone which allowed me to use my 
recorder both for recording and as a fancy speaker phone.


Damn, that was almost 50 years ago; the joys of being a t eenager.

On 2021-05-24 3:10 p.m., Richard Turner wrote:

I do not know of any that are simple since Apple blocks call recording.
There are third party apps that send the call to some cloud location for the 
recording, but I have never used them because if I am going to record a call, I 
would put the call on speaker and use a different device for recording.



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Subject: Call recording apps

Hi,

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed recently but I don't have time to look 
in the archives.  My apologies.


What is the easiest call recording app for in coming calls?  I see there are a 
bunch of them so if you can help me narrow them down that would be great.

Thanks,

Kim



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Re: Upgrading Iphone 7

[doug parisian]

David, thanks for what I suspected.  Yes, auto updates are turned off.  
I'll eventually commit the many tangible buttons on instapot to memory.  
Further, I have no reason for updating IO on Iphone 7.  I had originally 
planned to hand in a couple of retired Iphones to Apple for whatever 
bucks I could nab but just never got to it, then I learned just in time 
about Instapot.  I had already properly wiped my Iphone 7 which had only 
16 GB.  My 8 has 32GB and managed to get the larger backup sufficiently 
restored on 8 to include Instapot.  I don't care about the rest of the 
apps since 7 if only to be used for instapot.


And don't get me started on the moral bankruptcy of appliance 
manufacturers.  Example, a talking microwave need not cost anywhere near 
$300 but that isn't for this list.


On 2021-05-07 10:47 a.m., Dave Clement wrote:

Hi Doug,

An iPhone 7 can run IOS 14.x so if you attempt to upgrade it, IOS 14.5.1 would 
get installed. IOS only upgrades to the latest version. If support for your 
Instapot was broken in IOS 14 and you want/need to use the Instapot app, then 
don't upgrade.

I have read about the problem with Instapot dropping support for the bluetooth 
version of the Instapot. Is this what you are running into or is there a 
separate problem with the app for Instapot? I have heard that the WIFI model 
Instapot is working OK but that does not help all those who bought the 
bluetooth model and the WIFI model is more expensive.

One last thought - I'm sure you've done this but make sure you have "automatic 
updates" turned off on your iPhone 7 to prevent the upgrade to IOS 14.5.1.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On May 6, 2021, at 1:54 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

I am currently using an Iphone 8 and will likely update to the most recent IO 
14.5.1.  I also have a retired Iphone 7 and I'm hoping that, if i attempt to 
upgrade, it will NOT upgrade to the latest IO; I have the smart cooker app for 
the instapot and i know instapot are too morally bankrupt to continue 
supporting blind customers with their accessible app.  So, what will happen if 
I attempt to upgrade my Iphone 7?  Will it simply reject the most recent update 
or install a previous update it can handle and that will still allow instapot 
to work?



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Upgrading Iphone 7

[doug parisian]

I am currently using an Iphone 8 and will likely update to the most 
recent IO 14.5.1.  I also have a retired Iphone 7 and I'm hoping that, 
if i attempt to upgrade, it will NOT upgrade to the latest IO; I have 
the smart cooker app for the instapot and i know instapot are too 
morally bankrupt to continue supporting blind customers with their 
accessible app.  So, what will happen if I attempt to upgrade my Iphone 
7?  Will it simply reject the most recent update or install a previous 
update it can handle and that will still allow instapot to work?


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Re: cooking thermometer

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Ocean there’s a very simple solution, go into settings and then Bluetooth and 
you should find the name of that thermometer and that way you can help other 
people who might want it.

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On Apr 13, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I too have the iGrill Mini and it works great with their app.
Here is the Amazon link, it is currently $34.99.
 
Amazon.com : Weber iGrill Mini (7202) : Garden & Outdoor
It can be used on an outdoor grill or in the oven or, my most often used place, 
is on the George Forman grill.
 
HTH,
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: cooking thermometer
 
I have a Weber mini, it has the probe for the oven, and the unit is connected 
with a cable, and the unit is Blue tooth, I have a app on my iPhone, I use it 
on my grill. I do not remember the full name of it, might check on Amazon.
 
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Subject: cooking thermometer
 
HI All,
 
I need a recommendation for a good thermometer for cooking? Something with a 
Bluetooth probe for inside the oven or that I can stick in meet cooking and 
that is accessible on the iPhone.
 
Any advise is appreciated.
 
Best,
 
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[doug parisian]

Louise, I think I have your password keyboard moving characters solved.  
And yes, I too miss the password clicks but I simply keep entering the 
requirements and the field does indeed get filled.


Now then, once in the edit field, you can use the rotor to select 
exactly how you want your keyboard to respond when entering characters,  
To keep things short, I set my rotor as follows:


1I select "slide to type" to on.

2. Turn your rotor until you hear "typing mode." Swipe down until you 
hear "touch typing."


If you follow these steps everything will go as smooth as silk. With 
these settings, you simply slid your finger around and lift it when you 
year the letter or symbol you want, and it just works.  There might be 
one more adjustment you need to make in settings which I don't recall 
off hand.  Let us know and I'll dig it up if this doesn't work for you.


On 2021-03-06 12:43 p.m., Louise Peyton wrote:


Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I 
asked them that when they do a new version that they use haptic 
feedback because the numbers skip around.


Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Do you double-tap?

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone 
skips to another number.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and 
flick left and right until the number I want speaks and then double 
tap on that.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:

I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency 
button which made me go back. Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can 
I skip the pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers 
jumping around. Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Brad Snyder

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Try the following, and see if this will work for you:

1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere 
on your iPhone’s screen.


2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your 
passcode, then perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen to enter this digit.


3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode 
have been successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.


This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger 
around the screen to locate each digit of your passcode.


- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton > wrote:


Hello:

When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field 
provided, I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the 
latest version of ios doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the 
right numbers. Apple says this is for security reasons. Because my 
hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot always get the numbers 
entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any way to get 
around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

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Re: Iphone and voice control

[doug parisian]

Not sure I agree that voice recognition can be made to work perfectly 
with VoiceOver without headphones.  I think that, in order to be certain 
of no conflicts between voice control and VoiceOver, Voice Control will 
need to recognize and filter out any spoken information given by 
voiceover regardless of which voice the user selects.  I love using 
voice control when wearing some type of head set.


On 2020-12-20 2:13 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You definitely get better results if you wear headphones, in my opinion Voice 
Control which is primarily designed for people who can't control their phone 
due to physical reasons but who can see the screen is amazing, but it's not 
quite ready for prime time for visually impaired users who rely on Voiceover. 
Whether it will ever be is hard to say, one should never say never, but I found 
it is way too much trouble to be worth it for me.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Iphone and voice control

Hi,

Can Voice Control and VoiceOver be used at the same time or does one need to 
wear headphones to do this?  Thank you.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone and voice control

You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
it's a triple tap


On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:

Hi friends,

I wish to know as to what all can we do using voice control function
of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Looking for a 10 band voiceover friendly equalizer

[doug parisian]

Well gentle readers, in my not too humble opinion, apple embarrassed 
themselves with that unfortunate excuse under music they call an equalizer.


What I really would like would be a 10 band equalizer with the ability 
to store at least five favourite configurations (or more.)  I see 
several in the App store but am hoping not to have to try every one of 
them.  I would like said equalizer to be independant of other apps but 
would allow other apps to use the equalizer features.


I also want a Bryston 4B or equivelant amp for Xmas, BBG!

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Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

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Mike, I think I can solve the problem.
Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.


Sent from my iPhone, Siri, and my lips

On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi All,
 
Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.
 
Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously mentioned 
devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is completed but, 
the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, then, KeyPad but, 
after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to activate a prompt.  
It's like the KeyPad is dead.
 
An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling me 
the prompt had been pressed.
 
I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure how I 
did it!
 
Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always functionable 
when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Re: Amazon Kindle books and best way to read

[doug parisian]

I never could understand the fascination with that absolutely dreadful 
Alex voice; if I had a reader who gasped and breathed in that fashion, 
I'd take them to a service station and even pay for the required air.  
The original IPhone voice does perfectly fine when using Kindle, and 
with no gasping or silly panting, YIKES!


On 2020-10-28 2:54 p.m., Michael Feir wrote:
I also like the Alex voice but the US and British female Siri voices 
are great also. The iPHONE Kindle app is working wonderfuly.


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:40 PM Don Moore > wrote:


iPhone app works fine.I use the Alex voice and have the rate at 60
words a minute and it’s as close as you’ll get to a real reader.

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  Greetings,

I was gifted an eBook that someone really wants me to read. It’s
an Amazon Kindle book. I seem to remember JAWS not doing well with
such books a while back, but I don’t know if it has improved. What
about on the iPhone? Is that any better?

If anyone has any advice on how to best read this eBook, please
share your ideas.

Thanks much.

Jim

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Sorry gentle readers, this message was supposed to go to the entire 
group, must be a flaw in human software!





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Date:   Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:54:48 -0500
From:   doug parisian 
To: Daniel MacDonald 



I have read several messages claiming voice control works poorly with 
voiceover.  In fact, this is logical when not using any external 
listening devices.  The mike is constantly listening and so may react in 
unexpected ways to a word or phrase spoken by Voiceover.



So, if you want/need to use voice control, do so with an external device 
with a microphone.  I love voice control for many situations and only 
wish it could be used to activate features of programs once opened.



On 2020-10-21 6:11 p.m., Daniel MacDonald wrote:
Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight  > it could be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well > 
as I, and others I presoom, would like. But for low vision users, > 
their is also Zoom which from what people tell me, works quite well. > I 
am totally blind, so cannot vouch for how well or not, Zoom works. > 
Daniel > > >> On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner >> 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> >> 
wrote: >> >> There is no speak command to answer the phone. There is an 
auto >> answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer >> whether he's by the phone or not. Not my first choice. 
Otherwise I >> think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can 
learn where >> to touch his finger and slide to answer without 
voiceover. Sadly, >> Siri will not read emails. I suppose you could try 
turning on >> speak screen, but he would have to be able to open the 
email >> first, and that does not sound possible. So I would write Apple 
>> accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to >> 
read emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from >> the 
start and is stupid in my opinion that it does not. >> >> >> >> >> 
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which >> 
he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the >> 
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I >> 
have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once >> 
regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >> >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 
3:12 PM, mmmat >> <mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> 
wrote: >>> >>>  Hi Group, >>> >>> I am working with an individual that 
is very low vision and is >>> also suffering from a mild case of 
dementia and he gets >>> overwhelmed easily. He is using an iPhone 8 and 
I am very >>> reluctant to turn on voice over. I think it will be too 
>>> difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands. >>> >>> There 
are two immediate things that I want to accomplish with >>> him using 
the Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if >>> available. >>> 
>>> First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call >>> 
without being able to see the screen. Second, we were able to >>> 
successfully send an email message using the Hey Siri command. >>> Is 
there a way to have Siri read and email message aloud. Every >>> time I 
ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the >>> name of the 
sender and the subject line and does not read the >>> actual email 
message. >>> >>> Any help is much appreciated. >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> >>> 
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I hope this Applevis rant doesn'e turn to a butchering party.

[doug parisian]

I have benefited from both this list and the outstanding work on 
Applevis since about 2012.  The lack of a specific search field seems a 
recent direction; not sure this strategy is the best for novices to the 
site.  I haven't activated any of the items in the drop down replacement 
for the search field to see if there is then a field offered after the 
selection.



In any case, applevis has always been a treasure trove for me as have 
various lists.  If the web site is such a big issue, why not join and be 
constructive?  Pardon silly old me!


On 2020-09-25 10:46 a.m., Shirley Baker wrote:
The last time I was on applevis, which hasn't been too long ago, I got 
the same info so I just gave up. It's not as accessible as it was as 
some people want to think.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




Following up on the comment about people needing to use Applevos.com 
before asking questions on this list…


I just went to Applevis.com with Microsoft Edge and with Firefox.

There are no search boxes, none, nada, nowhere.

If you are looking for information on an app, you cannot simply 
search for it.


You have to drill down through many pages to get anything.

Even, after following the link from the main page titled, “Apps,” and 
you find the heading for Apps, it says:


Apps

article

Here at AppleVis we strive to make it easier for you to find great 
and accessible apps to use on Apple products.


From this page, you can browse and search our directories of iOS, 
iPadOS, Mac, Apple Watch, and Apple TV apps; see what apps others are 
recommending; and


see which iOS and iPadOS apps our community has inducted into our 
Hall Of Fame.


So, I followed the link to search, then you have a bunch (I was going 
to say s***load, but thought better of it) of more links with not a 
search box anywhere to be found.


So, at this point, applevis is only marginally useful, especially for 
someone who is a beginner.


I have been using iDevices since they became accessible and can find 
what I need most of the time without resorting to asking too many 
questions on the list, but I used to always refer people to Applevis, 
especially for their blog about updates, and I will still recommend that.


But as a source to find information about specific apps, or just apps 
in general, it is a crazy rabbit-warren of trails that I won’t be 
bothering with.


Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
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Re: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem how I solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems

[doug parisian]

Cristóbal, Misery loves company; thanks for yours, I've experienced the 
same grievous issues.  And yes, I will voice my concerns to apple 
plagiarizing a little from what you offered here.



I also experience issues with cursor skipping around along with 
occasional "machine gun" clicking almost like the Voice over cursor is 
having a heavy duty battle with whatever methods are used to highlight 
the screen for sightlings.



In the app store, the swiping will skip past the next item and a 
backward swipe, then forward again hits the desired spot; it's a damn 
lot of scraping and grinding such as I described also in settings.



I can't get to the "clear forms" item neither from swiping back to that 
control or forward to it.



I'll bet that a blind person using chop sticks to gather up peas on a 
plate is less challenging than some of the behaviours of IO 14.01.  I've 
never experienced such a mess since I started with Iphone in 2012.


On 2020-09-25 11:59 a.m., Cristóbal Muñoz wrote:


I have this exact same problem on my XR. Still present in iOS 14.0.1.

Also, if I want to backspace and delete a bunch of characters, what 
I’ll do is double tap and keep one finger on the delete button and 
split tap with another finger as many times as I need with VO 
announcing each character that’s being deleted. I’ve found this at 
least for me a quick way to batch delete characters or a word or two 
than selecting the text and then deleting or double tapping the hell 
out of the delete key etc.


Anyway, now when I try doing that in iOS 14, every time I split tap, 
the cursor is placed at the beginning of the edit field and text. This 
has pretty much broken the ability to backspace multiple times via 
this method.


Another issue that I don’t think others have mentioned is that now, VO 
can’t maintain focus on the dictate button. Whenever I try to gain 
focus on the microphone to dictate something anywhere in the OS, VO 
flickers and studders and the haptic feedback I get on the iPhone is 
like it’s doing the jitterbug. I now have to use the two finger double 
tap on an edit field to initiate dictation. So now, dictating has 
mostly become a two handed action instead of one simple one handed 
action. Super annoying.


I too sent Apple accessibility a screen recording as well as a 
diagnostics log at their request.


They said that they’re aware of it, but come on.

Regarding the VO focus thing. Yes, it’s all over the place. I can’t 
use the 1Password option to autofill log in credentials if say I have 
to select from a list of options as VO gets stuck on either the cancel 
button or the edit field. The built-in dictionary feature is also 
broken as VO can’t get past the done button when you look up a word. 
And on and on.


Cristóbal

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solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems


For me the Reset did certainly not resolve the focus issues on the 
Today screen or how when you swipe left from the top of the Inbox or 
message list you get stuck on the search box etc. I initially did the 
reset because I have another issue on my iPhone 8 where when I tap on 
any edit field and Voiceover says "text field is editing,, characters, 
insertion mode at start" this text is repeated with every letter I press.


Here is an example, let's say I open a message in the Messages app and 
I want to reply to a text. I double tap on the edit field and 
Voiceover says:


Message, text field is editing, iMessage, characters, insertion mode 
at start


So I'm now in editing mode, Voiceover tells me it's an iMessage and I 
know my rotor is set to characters and I'm at the start of the field 
which of course is empty at first.


Let's say I want to start with "Hello", so now I type an "H", here is 
what I hear:


Message, text field is editing, H, characters, insertion mode at end.

Then I type the next letter, the "e" in Hello and I hear

Message, text field is editing, He, characters, insertion mode at end.

Now I type the first L and Voiceover says:

Message, text field is editing, Hel, characters, insertion mode at end.

After I type the last letter, the "o" it will say it all over again 
now speaking the entire word Hello in the middle and as soon as I 
press the space it will repeat it again all over and then I start with 
the next word and so on. Even if I accidently type a wrong letter, it 
will repeat it all when I press the delete key, for example, if I had 
typed an "r" instead of the "e" in Hello it would say:


Message, text field is editing, Hr, characters, insertion mode at end.

If I then press delete to get rid of the r it would repeat but again 
only saying H and as you can see this is very annoying. I had 
initially asked Richard if he had noticed anything like that, but 
since I did also not read anything 

Re: Any Accessible Grocery App in Canadian Store?

[Doug Parisian]

There are at least 4 shopping-based apps and Windows applications having 
various degrees of accessibility.  As a person living with no sighted 
backups, my favourite place which is almost totally accessible is:
www.superstore.ca

Superstore is under the Loblaws umbrella where there are several stores 
depending on where you live.  using the superstore sige in Winnipeg, I can 
browse flyers, add selected items to my shopping cart, and on check-out 
either choose to pick-up or have it delivered.  At this point, in store 
pick-up is free for oldie moudies like me (seniors) or pay a delivery fee 
to have that done under instacart.  I have not shopped using instacart 
since I prefer to pick up my food with no charge.

Flipp.com would be my second choice for shopping where I do not use the 
Loblaw's offering.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:12:30 AM UTC-5, Fazil wrote:
>
> Hi, list.
>
> I am looking for an accessible grocery app in Canadian store that can tell 
> me about sales, flyers, specials etc in various stores of Vancouver.
>
> Any help/recommendations are highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Amazon Kindle books

[doug parisian]

I strongly agree with David Andrews assessment of the IOS Kindle App.  
Unlike my windows version, there seems no way to move through smaller 
units than a page, like lines, words, and characters.  It is therefore 
impossible using the IOS version to look up specific words, check the 
spelling of unfamiliar words or names.  I can do all the above using the 
windows app with NVDA. The choices of desired voices has nothing to do 
with the IOS kindle app.



and truthfully unrelated but I need to say it, the Alex voice is way 
beyond annoying with that fake contrived gasping--way beyond awful!



On 2020-06-26 11:13 a.m., David Andrews wrote:

What format are they in?  Kindle has never been very good at navigation?

Dave

At 10:34 AM 6/26/2020, portillo@gmail.com wrote:

Good morning,
I need some advice on the best and most effective way of reading 
Amazon Kindle books.  I need to read a particular book that is in 
Kindle.  I don't know if it's best to try on the computer with JAWS 
or on the iPhone.  If so, what programs or apps work best?  I've not 
tried it with JAWS, and the Kindle app reads some of the book, but I 
am having some issues navigating.

It's my first day though.
Any good recommendations are appreciated.
Jim





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Re: Recording video without camera sounds and speech

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This sounds like a future choice which should be built-in to the Camera app 
itself. Meantime, try using a set of headphones since the phone won't hear 
itself. This is a similar problem when using voice control with speech. Again, 
are use headphones so the phone doesn't hear itself.

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On May 6, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Gordon  wrote:

I know the camera has given guidance for a while now, but I don't remember it 
doing this when recording video. But this morning I was recording a video and 
it was full of sounds and voice guidance telling me where to move the camera 
and a series of beeps. Is there a way to turn this off while recording video?

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Re: bug in settings dialogue ios 13.4.1

[Doug Parisian]

The bug you mention occurs on my Iphone 8 in several places, web pages, an 
online ordering app from the Canadian Loblaws, Safare, The app store, Dominos, 
and no doubt I have missed others; well beyond damned annoying.  Many such 
concerns have been aired on the applevis web site.  The situation seems serous 
enough that a fix should have been forthcoming.  

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On Apr 14, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:


Hi folks
 
In some dialogues it is hard to find settings by flicking right. For example: 
the voiceover dialogue. You can easily read all stuff but after the speech rate 
setting, flicking right you are brought back to the beginning of the dialogue. 
However there is much more stuff that can be set. You can only reach that by 
holding your finger on the screen and sweep down to the audio or speech 
settings and then flick or double tap again. Can this bug be confirmed? In my 
oppinion this is a tramendous focus bug that needs to be reported as much as 
possible.
After having waited for 8 months now I eventually updated my phone and this is 
the first bug I come across that had never been mentioned before.
Regards
Davy
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