Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
Have just sent an email to Apple; I’m very curious to know why this should be happening. I wonder if we will ever know. All the best Angie > On 27 Dec 2023, at 18:23, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to > accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that > you also experience this. Which watch do you have? > You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for > Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour. > Just make sure you also include the watch model you have. > > From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep > focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious. > > All the best > Angie > > > On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to > them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep > focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > I agree. > I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens > to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures > have to add an extra gesture to function. > And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > > I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that > for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the > described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, > others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the > double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when > my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, > I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it > probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to > add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > > When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face > to feel a haptic version of the time. > > When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to > feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic > time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > > It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. > Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but > it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. > > > > From:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom > Rash > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM > To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch &g
Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
I have Watch 8. All the best Angie > On 27 Dec 2023, at 18:23, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to > accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that > you also experience this. Which watch do you have? > You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for > Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour. > Just make sure you also include the watch model you have. > > From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep > focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious. > > All the best > Angie > > > On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to > them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep > focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > I agree. > I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens > to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures > have to add an extra gesture to function. > And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > > I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that > for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the > described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, > others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the > double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when > my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, > I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it > probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to > add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > > When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face > to feel a haptic version of the time. > > When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to > feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic > time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > > It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. > Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but > it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. > > > > From:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom > Rash > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM > To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > It does not work consistently for me. > I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the fi
RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
Angie, it would be very helpful if you could send an email to accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and tell them that you also experience this. Which watch do you have? You can even mention my name and that this has come on an email group for Voiceover users and that you are confirming the same behaviour. Just make sure you also include the watch model you have. From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious. All the best Angie On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch I agree. I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function. And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time. When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result
Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious. All the best Angie > On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to > them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep > focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > I agree. > I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens > to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures > have to add an extra gesture to function. > And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that > for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the > described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, > others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the > double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when > my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, > I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it > probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to > add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > > When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face > to feel a haptic version of the time. > > When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to > feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic > time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. > Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but > it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. > > > > From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM > To: Viphone > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > It does not work consistently for me. > I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple > tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. > If voice over is turned off, it does not work. > > > > > On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up > again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas > others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. > > On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good > consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. > First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the > email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture > exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any > exceptions: > > Hello Sieghard, > Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a > one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap > for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. > If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep > or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downward
RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch I agree. I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function. And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time. When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM
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I have the latest version of Watch OS, and I have an Apple Watch Ultra. Haptic time is very consistent for me. I would say it works 9 times out of 10. So I really can't complain about that.EarleSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2023, at 1:32 PM, Richard Turner wrote:I agree.I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function.And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time. When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two
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I agree.I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures have to add an extra gesture to function.And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time. When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I
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I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time. When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members
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When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face to feel a haptic version of the time.When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg
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It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone l
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The three and four taps work pretty reliably for me whether I have sleep mode on or not. I have an SE, and I do have sleep when wrist down set to on. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 7:01 AM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rath
Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
Hi all, I have a Series 7 Apple Watch (41 mm). I am still running Watch OS 9, as I gathered that there were some bugs with version 10. I use Taptic Time frequently, and pretty consistently. I also have Sleep Focus enabled, but in my case this does not alter the number of taps required: regardless of the time, I always do a one-finger double tap for hours and minutes, and a one-finger triple tap for just minutes. If I want the watch to remain silent, I turn speech off using a three-finger double tap, the same gesture as on the phone. Haptic Time works fine when speech is turned off. My watch is not an SE, by the way, it's the standard model. I hope this is helpful. Best, Nicky Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Dec 2023, at 13:24, M. Taylor wrote: > > This is wonderful feedback, my friend. Thank you for posting. > > Mark > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:26 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up > again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas > others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. > > On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good > consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. > First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the > email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture > exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any > exceptions: > > Hello Sieghard, > Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a > one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap > for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. > If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep > or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then > perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled > and managed to get the same results. > If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we > recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support > team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern > through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the > appropriate teams for further investigation. > You will find the contact information for the team in the following support > article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585 > > The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double > tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to > start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced > this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all > is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 > PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple > tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a > quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the > minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get > just minutes after a triple tap. > > I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in > the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should > definitely be something they take a closer look at. > > I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple > tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is > always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I > assume this could also have something to do with it. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >
RE: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
This is wonderful feedback, my friend. Thank you for posting. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201da366c%248d2c9cd0%24a785d670%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
It does not work consistently for me. I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. If voice over is turned off, it does not work. > On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up > again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas > others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. > > On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good > consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. > First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the > email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture > exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any > exceptions: > > Hello Sieghard, > Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a > one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap > for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. > If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep > or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then > perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled > and managed to get the same results. > If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we > recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support > team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern > through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the > appropriate teams for further investigation. > You will find the contact information for the team in the following support > article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 > > The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double > tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to > start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced > this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all > is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 > PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple > tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a > quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the > minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get > just minutes after a triple tap. > > I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in > the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should > definitely be something they take a closer look at. > > I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple > tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is > always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I > assume this could also have something to do with it. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions: Hello Sieghard, Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results. If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams for further investigation. You will find the contact information for the team in the following support article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585 The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a triple tap. I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should definitely be something they take a closer look at. I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I assume this could also have something to do with it. Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656A904DB1EEE612F9955ADC79AA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Thank you. I appreciate this. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 02:42 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply. From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”. According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr.
RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
If I do a triple tap during the day all I get is minutes and I can reproduce this over and over. Just now, it’s 11:45 PM so well past the start of my 10:30 PM sleep focus, a double tap once again does nothing and the triple tap consistently gives me hours and minutes in haptic time. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 11:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”. According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.
RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply. From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”. According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_sou
RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Yes, that is how I have it set up, sleep focus starts at 10:30 PM and that is the case on both my iPhone and Apple Watch. If I get up at 6:30 AM or any time before 7, I often get a notification on my watcch which says “It looks like you are awake” and I am then asked if I want to turn off the 7 AM alarm. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes on my iPhone, it’ll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don’t have my watch with me right now, but I’d check to see if there’s a way to toggle focus in the control panel. BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”. According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes on my iPhone, it'll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don't have my watch with me right now, but I'd check to see if there's a way to toggle focus in the control panel. BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr
sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”. According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is
RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe this plays into it somehow. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps. I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps. I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work either. Poor sighted folks. :) Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook
Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
On my Apple Watch SE I have never been
able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps. I have
always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.
I have also turned VO off and tried the 2
finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work
either. Poor sighted folks. :)
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:
Interesting. I’m not sure anyone
other than myself has said they use three and four taps for
haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep
mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere
that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set
to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked
this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested
to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have
something that works pretty reliably for me.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Hi,
According to Apple, Voiceover users can use
the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple
Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and
minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want
minutes indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch
screen is off/asleep.
In a recent discussion it seems many people
say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3
times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes.
I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm
that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I
discovered the following which probably applies also to my
series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it
comes to selling stuff.
Here is what I discovered:
I have a daily “sleep” focus set which
starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g.
the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing
except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts
hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just
the minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM
and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the
double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the
triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep
focus is active it will give me hours and minutes.
I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message
regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure
until they reply.
What I don’t understand is that why we
can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic
time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available
to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you
said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of
“Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use
Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment
to get haptic time.
Tell time with haptic feedback on
Apple Watch - Apple Support
Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr.
Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Haptic time
I am having the same issue and I am waiting on Apple support to contat me as we have an acall appointment. I will share any info I get. Its really driving me crazy. Linda Knight -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 02:13 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it giv eme haptic time. I wonder if there is some other setting which causes you to tap 3 times and 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times. -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time On my Watch Series 9, two taps always works fine Harry > On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know > if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in > haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... > I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one > of the recent updates. > I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... > > > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS > version 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > > > Christopher, > > Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. > > But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. > > Smile. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the > minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this > is true for anyone else. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Parham Doustdar > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > Hi, > Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed > that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work > well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me > just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. > Hope that helps. > >> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello list >> >> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of >> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night >> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture >> settings? >> >> Regards >> >> Fanus >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b5
Re: Haptic time
A 1-finger double-tap almost always gives me the haptic time. I have an Apple watch ultra and I'm running the latest version of Watch OS. Earle Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:34 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > wrote: > > One finger double tap has worked for me for about a year, but I do recall > that on my previous Series 7 watch I had to do several resets until it > started working properly! It really should not be left in this precarious > state by Apple! > Harry > >> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:13, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course >> I made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it >> giv eme haptic time. >> I wonder if there is some other setting which causes you to tap 3 times and >> 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Haptic time >> >> On my Watch Series 9, two taps always works fine Harry >> >>>> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't >>> know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to >>> work. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Haptic time >>> >>> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute >>> in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... >>> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one >>> of the recent updates. >>> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA >>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores >>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get >>> it.” >>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >>> >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >>> >>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS >>> version 2024.2310.70.400 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Haptic time >>> >>> >>> >>> Christopher, >>> >>> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. >>> >>> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. >>> >>> Smile. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Haptic time >>> >>> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the >>> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if >>> this is true for anyone else. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ >>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Parham Doustdar >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Haptic time >>> >>> Hi, >>> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've >>> noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen >>> doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes >>> it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>>>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello list >>>> >>>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part >>>> of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the >>>> night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand >>>> gesture settings? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>
Re: Haptic time
One finger double tap has worked for me for about a year, but I do recall that on my previous Series 7 watch I had to do several resets until it started working properly! It really should not be left in this precarious state by Apple! Harry > On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:13, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I > made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it > giv eme haptic time. > I wonder if there is some other setting which causes you to tap 3 times and > 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > On my Watch Series 9, two taps always works fine Harry > >> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't >> know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Haptic time >> >> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in >> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... >> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one >> of the recent updates. >> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... >> >> >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores >> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” >> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >> >> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS >> version 2024.2310.70.400 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Haptic time >> >> >> >> Christopher, >> >> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. >> >> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. >> >> Smile. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Haptic time >> >> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the >> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if >> this is true for anyone else. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ >> Chaltain at Outlook, USA >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Parham Doustdar >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Haptic time >> >> Hi, >> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've >> noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen >> doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes >> it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. >> Hope that helps. >> >>>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >>> >>> Hello list >>> >>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part >>> of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the >>> night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand >>> gesture settings? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://w
RE: Haptic time
I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it giv eme haptic time. I wonder if there is some other setting which causes you to tap 3 times and 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times. -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time On my Watch Series 9, two taps always works fine Harry > On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know > if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in > haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... > I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one > of the recent updates. > I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... > > > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS > version 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > > > Christopher, > > Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. > > But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. > > Smile. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the > minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this > is true for anyone else. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Parham Doustdar > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > Hi, > Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed > that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work > well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me > just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. > Hope that helps. > >> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello list >> >> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of >> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night >> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture >> settings? >> >> Regards >> >> Fanus >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >
Re: Haptic time
On my Watch Series 9, two taps always works fine Harry > On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know > if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in > haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... > I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one > of the recent updates. > I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... > > > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version > 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > > > Christopher, > > Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. > > But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. > > Smile. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the > minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this > is true for anyone else. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham > Doustdar > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > Hi, > Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed > that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work > well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me > just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. > Hope that helps. > >> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello list >> >> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of >> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night >> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture >> settings? >> >> Regards >> >> Fanus >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe
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3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this
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I just tried that three taps instead of two, and I got voiceover telling me the time that it was 240. Not what I wanted. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote: > > It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to > get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I > need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I > also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit > and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest > practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for > example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I > tap on an object on the screen. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in > haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... > I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one > of the recent updates. > I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... > > > > > Richard, USA > "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version > 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > > > Christopher, > > Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. > > But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. > > Smile. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the > minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this > is true for anyone else. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham > Doustdar > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > Hi, > Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed > that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work > well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me > just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. > Hope that helps. > >> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello list >> >> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of >> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night >> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture >> settings? >> >> Regards >> >> Fanus >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns abo
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I just checked and zoom is off. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time You don't have Zoom on do you? Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote: It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the screen. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the we
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I don't understand needing to do the 2 or 3 taps versus the 3 or 4 taps either. Sometimes 2 taps works for me, and other times I need to do 3. Strange. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the screen. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this messa
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You don't have Zoom on do you? Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote: > > It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to > get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I > need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I > also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit > and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest > practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for > example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I > tap on an object on the screen. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in > haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... > I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one > of the recent updates. > I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... > > > > > Richard, USA > "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version > 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > > > Christopher, > > Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. > > But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. > > Smile. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Haptic time > > I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the > minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this > is true for anyone else. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham > Doustdar > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Haptic time > > Hi, > Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed > that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work > well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me > just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. > Hope that helps. > >> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: >> >> Hello list >> >> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of >> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night >> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture >> settings? >> >> Regards >> >> Fanus >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. > > -- > The followi
RE: Haptic time
It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the screen. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The fo
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I was wrong. A one finger double tap near the 2 o'clock position on the watc face get the hour and minute, most of the time. A one finger triple tap gets just the minute, again, most of the time. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or
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Dan, Yes, I am using my tips of my fingers. I even checked settings. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:50 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time No, you should not have to turn speech off, that is for silent use. Are you tapping the screen with the tips of your fingers? I find that if I use the pads of my fingers it doesn't work nearly as well. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone wrote: I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also. However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time. So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly. Thanks. Linda From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Haptic time Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent. I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero. I also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak. I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear it at all. I use it this way in a couple of other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my watch. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01da2ddf%24501f5ac0%24f05e1040%24%40icloud.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01da2ddf%24501f5ac0%24f05e1040%24%40icloud.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscri
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Mary, I am in your boat with this. I also reported this to apple. Nada. I really don’t know what to do about it. Linda C. Knight From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:52 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time This used to work reasonably reliably for me as Jen has described. However, it has been totally worthless for several months, after an upgrade I think to the previous iOS, I should say watchOS. I have it set to on, but whenever I do that double tap I always get speech which I don’t want. But I don’t want to turn speech completely off either. It used to work fine, and I have reported it to Apple to no avail. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2023, at 5:07 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones are for 1 through 9. It does work. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/35582AFC-094D-4622-863A-70344B3512F2%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/35582AFC-094D-4622-863A-70344B3512F2%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1F7327A9-AAC3-4200-AAD3-23A4BB912F25%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1F7327A9-AAC3-4200-AAD3-23A4BB912F25%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important
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I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes... I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of the recent updates. I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess... Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -Original Message- From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the w
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This used to work reasonably reliably for me as Jen has described. However, it has been totally worthless for several months, after an upgrade I think to the previous iOS, I should say watchOS. I have it set to on, but whenever I do that double tap I always get speech which I don’t want. But I don’t want to turn speech completely off either. It used to work fine, and I have reported it to Apple to no avail.MarySent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2023, at 5:07 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:Hi,I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones are for 1 through 9. It does work.Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus wrote:Hello listI got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings?RegardsFanus-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/35582AFC-094D-4622-863A-70344B3512F2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1F7327A9-AAC3-4200-AAD3-23A4BB912F25%40gmail.com.
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No, you should not have to turn speech off, that is for silent use. Are you tapping the screen with the tips of your fingers? I find that if I use the pads of my fingers it doesn't work nearly as well. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone wrote: I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also. However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time. So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly. Thanks. Linda From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent. I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero. I also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak. I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear it at all. I use it this way in a couple of other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my watch. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01da2ddf%24501f5ac0%24f05e1040%24%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Christopher, Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. But being deaf I can't afford to not have it. Smile. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB4296EEFE8569C66F7FCBF57FC88DA%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also. However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time. So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly. Thanks. Linda From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent. I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero. I also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak. I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear it at all. I use it this way in a couple of other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my watch. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01da2ddf%24501f5ac0%24f05e1040%24%40icloud.com.
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Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent. I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero. I also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak. I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear it at all. I use it this way in a couple of other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my watch. Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a1bd8244-5e35-4292-b72f-6de61763f677%40gmail.com.
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Hi, I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones are for 1 through 9. It does work. Jenn Jenn and Kumi > On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/35582AFC-094D-4622-863A-70344B3512F2%40gmail.com.
RE: Haptic time
I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this is true for anyone else. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time Hi, Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB4296EEFE8569C66F7FCBF57FC88DA%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Haptic time
Hi, Haptic time doesn’t need speech, that’s the main point. However, I’ve noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn’t work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes. Hope that helps. > On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus wrote: > > Hello list > > I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of > VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night > without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture > settings? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6A9737E3-B6EC-415A-8B32-D78A61DD6CB8%40gmail.com.
Haptic time
Hello list I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/26919fee-ea69-48e6-b551-5b0b1647184f%40gmail.com.
